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Speaker 1: Shhh.

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Speaker 2: Tonight's guest is Linda, looking.

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Speaker 3: Back on life that you leave him then resting home

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in the crowd, stick around through the crane.

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Speaker 4: The feeding whore, the fire.

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Speaker 5: You're dancing around?

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Speaker 6: Are we hearing sound of the treating?

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Speaker 7: And no one cares where he's coming from? My ears

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is no ringing feeding.

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Speaker 8: I guess we are knew from the start.

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Speaker 3: He's on the days not go. You know, one of

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these days will be the world. Look at Frances, what

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a sask He's on the test, my coasto, my coslo

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leading the fumes of the ashes, the spirits, la epitom

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looking down the.

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Speaker 8: Were life from the Untold Radio Network. It's Untold Radio

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AM with.

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Speaker 2: Monster Quest producer host Doug Hichek and co host Jeff

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Perella Jr. Untold Radio a M is going live right now.

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This show is for entertainment purposes only.

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Speaker 8: Yep, that's the ticket.

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Speaker 2: Now Here are your Untold Radio a M posts, Doug

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high Check, Jeff Corella Jr.

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Speaker 9: And here we are welcome.

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Speaker 6: I'm overtons. We're back for another episode. Episode three oh four.

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Speaker 9: Three oh four four episodes of Unverified Crap.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I forgot my rut bearer and my water.

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Speaker 9: What the heck is right? I got my water right here,

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I plan all.

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Speaker 6: Somebody snuck me at bottle fire At the last second,

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I got tossed a bottle.

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Speaker 9: That was nice of her.

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Speaker 6: Anyhow, Yes, we are ready for another wild ride tonight

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with the strange, the laned, and the mysterious, and every

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now and then a streaming pile of unverified. As you

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reminded this, just because it's unverified doesn't mean it's true. Correct.

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We want to make that clear. It's just not verified.

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Speaker 9: Mhmm.

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Speaker 6: We wouldn't exist that, we wouldn't be talking about it

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if it was verified. Raccoons are raccoons are verified. We

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don't talk about raccoon.

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Speaker 9: No, not typically No, No, maybe we should so too.

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Verified raccoons.

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Speaker 6: Well, we've seen unverified deer. We have me and you

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have together.

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Speaker 9: That was pretty weird.

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Speaker 6: That was weird. It's unverified, but we did see a

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not deer.

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Speaker 9: You did. It was a strange little animal.

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Speaker 6: Yes. Anyhow, So, by the way, somebody's mowing the lawn

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outside the studio. If you can hear that lawnmower, it's

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not you can't hear it. So tonight we got a

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great one for you. Episode three or four, we have

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Strange Encounters, Bigfoot cryptids, high strangeness with Linda Eastburn.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, looking forward to talking to her.

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Speaker 6: I think almost everybody knows who Linda is by now.

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She is. You know, she's an author too. Did you know.

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Speaker 9: That I did? You did well? And because holdout a

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second here, she sent me a covert of her There

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there we go.

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Speaker 6: A book cover that is pretty creepy cover.

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Speaker 9: We'll talk about that more later.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, she's tho, no, no, but she has spent years collecting,

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sharing the stories on the edge of the unknown. She

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really is. Ah, so we're gonna be talking about bigfoot cryptids,

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her encounters, things seen in the woods, things.

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Speaker 9: Hurt in the dark, the raccoons.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe raccoons, those moments where your brain says nope,

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yep you And of course we have another full plate

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of weirdness tonight. We'll kick things off of our weird

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and Fast news. We've got clips, right.

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Speaker 9: We do.

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Speaker 6: And I don't know what else we have, Oh, we have,

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we have. We have other things that will get the

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the crap meter twitch the crap meter.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's our goal, is to get that crap metering we.

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Speaker 6: Still haven't made the crap meter. I got to do that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you forgetting Still in the testing phase.

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Speaker 6: Well yeah, it's hard to get the algorithms just a

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Speaker 9: You have unsorted crap now, so we have to test

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Speaker 6: Of the first of its kind. Anyhow, And I'm trying

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to think, Oh, I might, for just some odd reason,

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might give those away, give one away. They're not cheap.

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Speaker 9: Still is that verified?

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Speaker 6: It's verified? Oh what else we've got here? That's about it.

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Speaker 9: Nope, don't have anything for that.

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Speaker 6: No, no fagas fun. Got some clips, got some news, Yeah,

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we do have some weird stuff. So anyhow, grab a

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comfy chair, demmer lights. Lock the doors, do not forget

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to lock the doors. Keep one eye on the tree line.

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Speaker 9: Just one eye Okay, just one eye.

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Speaker 6: You don't have to you don't have to have to,

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Speaker 9: Let's kick it off with our news.

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Speaker 6: It's time for.

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Speaker 8: Weird and fast knees.

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Speaker 6: All right, Jeff, let's get weird. Let's let's start out. Yeah,

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with the US is building a DNA bio vault for

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endangered species. The DNA of wildlife conservation is the goal.

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So the US Fish and Wildlife Service. Oh, by the way,

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we do talk about ferrets. Apparently there's a ferret. That's fair,

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they're verified. Firtsybody want a ferret for a pet? They're

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Speaker 9: I don't get it either, but yeah, it was like

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Speaker 6: Go over there and nothing's darting around hiding. Yeah, peaking, darting.

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't like it.

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Speaker 9: I don't get it, but hey whatever whatever.

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Speaker 6: Anyhow, the US Fish and Wilife Service is partnering with.

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Speaker 10: A Colossal Bioscience to create a cryogenic archive of living

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cells reproductive tissues in genomic DNA from roughly two thousand,

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three hundred threatened.

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the Endangered Species Act. It says Colossal says the biovault

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will store samples and liquid nitrogen at about three hundred

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and twenty one degrees fahrenheit minus fahrenheit. That's cold with redundancies.

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they wouldn't want a disaster to wipe out the collection.

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not damage it. But I know, what do I know?

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a great, you know, healthy child, and they do. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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fun stuffs cold, all right. Next Queen Queen bees are

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not made by royal jelly alone, so says this unverified article.

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special royal cribs made from different wax. They regulate the heat,

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the humidity, and dedicate young teams to raising the future queen.

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same food. So the cool twist is the whole hive

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somebody about bees because I'm like, did you know they're carnivorous?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, boring DNA reveals in Japan's new first new newly

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described bird species in more than forty years. I mean,

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it's just basically is that it's a warbler.

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Speaker 9: Leaf warbler.

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Speaker 9: Okay, that's a verified animal.

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rapid that identifies individual animals from their unique coat patterns

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like zebra stripes, jaguar rosettes, and giraffe spots. It can

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run on drones, camera traps, and other field devices and

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does not even need heavy GPU power and test it

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hit eighty nine percent to ninety nine percent accuracy. So

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there you go. If you want to tell two giraffes apart,

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Speaker 9: I don't need that often.

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Speaker 6: But you could do whales too.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that was the first thing I thought.

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Speaker 6: Of, actually, because they get scars on them. Oh my goodness,

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I'll buy you one for Ristmas job.

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Speaker 9: So I can identify my zebra collection. Yes, yes, I

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can you ever tell them apart?

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Speaker 6: Scientists reprogrammed brain immune cells to fight Alzheimer's and animal models,

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and this says researchers in Spain and Switzerland identified them

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molecule called O L E that appears to restore protective

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protective behavior in uh microlia. How do you say that, Jeff,

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my croglia microlia?

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Speaker 9: Sure? Why not?

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Speaker 6: The brain's immune cells. That's called microgame.

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Speaker 9: I learned something new that my croglia keep going. Microglia,

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my kroglia, my kroglia, my krogle.

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Speaker 6: How's your crog How is your crogre doing?

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Speaker 9: Pretty good? Okay, I would checked that in a few minutes,

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Speaker 6: And Alzheimer's models, the O L E helped my crog

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my krog glia move forward beta amy Lloyd plaques and

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surround them and reduce their toxic impact and improve memory

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test performance in treated mice. This is still an early

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stage animals sell culture work, not a human treatment yet,

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but the big idea is powerful and instead of only

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attacking plaque directly, it reawakens the brain's own cleanup crew.

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a good thing, it's awful. That would be awful. Jack,

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gonna try some jack fruit latexruit. No, yeah, by a

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scientists buddy. I brought one over to my house one day.

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eat it. Like no or not.

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Speaker 6: Brazilian researchers create a new biomterial from jackfruit, latex, and

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pomegranate peel extract. It's called the SIMVASTI for severe gum disease.

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Paradontis destroys tissue and bone around the teeth. In current

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treatments mostly control infection rather than rebuild the damage. In

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test results, human stem cells using human st stem cells

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that the latex. They're putting stem cells in it, and

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they're putting the latex then on the gums and it

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sticks to the gums. So it has nothing to do

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with the jackfruit. That's just a carrier.

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Speaker 9: See, I can't verify that.

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Speaker 6: I can't either. It says it is a nice science,

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nice weird science flavor. Tropical fruit glue is what it

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tastes like.

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Speaker 9: Sure, why next? Next?

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Speaker 6: Mars may have a vast hidden magma system like Earth?

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Why always thought it did, didn't you?

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Speaker 9: I didn't know. I did. I actually did think Mars

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was active. But why wouldn't it be, Well, there's not

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really any volcanic activity, or.

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Speaker 6: Yeah there is, I thought there was. I thought there

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were volcanoes.

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Speaker 8: That gather the old Well they're old.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I don think any recent movement but every day.

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Speaker 6: Well, here's here's what it says. Oxford researchers use NASA

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Insight seismic data from Mars quakes and meteor impacts to

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study a mysterious boundary about twenty four kilometers below Mars surface.

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Their analysis suggests Mars once had huge, long lived underground

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magma systems that re reprocess material through the crust, even

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without Earth style plate tatonics. It says that matters because

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geological recycling helps planet build atmospheres, oceans habitable conditions. The

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exciting implications are that rocky planets may not need plate

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teutonics exactly like Earth to become chemically complex. Who so,

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who would think that plate tectonics would actually add to

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the you know, the chemistry to create life. Everything seems

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to work together.

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Speaker 9: The Earth is what they call it, the Goldilocks planet.

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There's so many things that have to happen for life

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to exist on Earth. It's it's remarkable.

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Speaker 6: And then, last, but not least, astronomers found two super

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puff planets lighter than cotton candy in space. Wow, they

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look attible, don't they They do? Yes, thank you for

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taking that picture. Jeff An International TAM discovered two Jupiter

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sized exoplanets, to Oi seven ninety one B and t

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U I seventy nine seven nine one C, about one

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hundred and one hundred and eleven thousand light years away.

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They are roughly Jupiter sized, but have densities of only

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zero point three zero point oh three eight and zero

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point oh four to seven grams per cubic centimeter, lower

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than candy floss, far below Jupiter's average density. I thought

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Jupiter was mainly gas.

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Speaker 9: It is, but it's dense gas, dense gas, heavy gas.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that would never mind. There was a joke there,

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but I'm not going there. This is only a few

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multiplanets super Puff systems are known, so this is rare.

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I want to live Puff Planet. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Like what you have for break super Puffs?

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Speaker 6: Well you could you could yeah eat it and it

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would be great. Wouldn't be cool if you just yeah,

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never mind? Oh sleep, all right. We next, let's do

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our clips and I think that's Oh by the way,

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before we do clips, let's talk about the New York

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Bigfoot Conference and before tickets sell out, you're gonna want

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to get your tickets. And it's for October second, October third,

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and a very beautiful part of New York State. It's

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not New York City, it's New York State. It's in

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the mountains area of glovers Johnsonville, Gloversville, and I will

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be one of the speakers, So come out. I'd love

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to meet you. And we've got Steve Calls as a

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town hall host. Adam Davies is one of the MC's

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me Maria Mayor from Expedition Bigfoot, Lauren Coleman, who was

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you know, if you haven't met Lauren, here's your chance.

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He's a legend. And then Ken Gerhard who's amazing. And

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then Darby Orcut from NC State.

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Speaker 9: You speaking.

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Speaker 6: Outdoor vendors, Jeff chili dogs food.

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Speaker 9: I don't know time.

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Speaker 6: I think there's indoor vendors too, but maybe not. I

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don't know. I haven't been there. But Loretta Collins is

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putting this on with Mark Dwarth, some great hosts. Get

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your tickets. All right, clips, clip time, clip time? Hey Jeff,

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you're back. That was that was like, that was a

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long time. I think my chair is sinking. My new

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team my t moves studio chairs. You know, I got

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some helpless I got chairs. I swear to god, they're

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just they're like half the size of my old one.

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All right, clip one, sound is good. This is James Fox,

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who's a great he does a lot of UFO productions. Uh,

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he's a great producer, has a new has a new announcement.

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So go ahead and play this.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 11: What mister Grush revealed to all of us what he

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had seen with his own eyes left the room speechless.

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It drew the oxygen out of the room. I looked

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at everybody in that room, and their eyeballs were popping out.

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My job was on the floor, Like I I simply

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couldn't believe what he what he'd seen with his own eyes, Like, I.

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Speaker 6: Can't wait for it to come out.

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Speaker 11: So I asked mister Grush today, can I talk about

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what I heard? And He's like, no, but I will

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be addressing it very soon. So that's where we stand

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right now. But I can tell you, mister Grush has

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seen evidence that we'll leave you slack job when you

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hear it.

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Speaker 9: Interesting. Interesting, interesting. I wish you could have a little

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more of a tease than that, but well, i'd leave

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you slack John.

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Speaker 6: I mean that's kind interesting. Yeah, are you are you

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ready for aliens walking into your house?

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Speaker 9: I just want to know. I want the truth. Let

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us know.

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Speaker 6: I heard. That's what they're so concerned about. That once

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it's everything's released, the aliens are going to kind of go, well,

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we don't have anything diet anymore. They're going to start

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walking into people's houses.

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Speaker 9: I yeah, it's it's hard to even fathom the effect

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it'll have on people. I mean, it's it's unpredictable. I know,

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you have no idea how it's going to affect people.

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Speaker 6: Some people affect them a lot, and then those people

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will affect us. Yeah, I'm not worried about the aliens.

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Speaker 9: No, it'd be interesting. I'm uh, I just wanted to

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come out.

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Speaker 6: Like an Amazon delivery. They'll knock on your door, so

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let's just go aliens let us in.

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Speaker 9: Just think about wrap your head around. I think about

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having your eyeballs on an actual extraterrestrial alien. That would be.

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Speaker 6: It would How do you know some of us haven't

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seen them already, some of.

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Speaker 9: Us probably have.

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Speaker 6: You can't verify that, No, it's completely unverified. All right? Next, uh,

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clip to the sound is good. This is a deep

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sea they call it a deep sea churo. It will

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kind of give you naghmors because it's like a giant leech.

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Go ahead and play this crazy because that's stuck on

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your face. Yuka, Oh, I think this in the Gulper

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eel are the two creepiest animals you've seen. A gulprially.

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a giant sperm with a huge and they can kind

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of swallow their own head to try to make themselves

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look bigger.

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Speaker 9: Crazy Gulbriels.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll play. I'll put a Goulbriel footage next week, anyhow.

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Clip three sound is good now and I'm just in on.

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So this is revealing more videos, right, They've released sixty

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four more videos Friday, And if you haven't looked at them,

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but they're showing a bunch of them getting shot down.

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And I'm thinking, make that make sense to me? Why

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are they shooting down UFOs?

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: You don't know. You don't think about it.

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Speaker 9: No, I just think about it, But I don't know.

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Something's going on, all right.

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Speaker 6: Go ahead.

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Speaker 12: The UFO files meanwhile, keep coming. The Pentagon releasing a

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fresh batch on Friday, featuring some shocking, never before seen

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images and video. And this includes clusters of mysterious objects

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soaring through the sky, shape shifting orbs of light lingering overseas,

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even flying saucer like objects being shot down by US Forces.

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News Nation's senior national correspondent, Brian Enton has more.

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Speaker 13: Tonight, the Pentagon has released sixty four more additional videos

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related to UFOs. This is in addition to the first

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batch that was released more than a week ago. All

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of this ordered by President Trump. Let me walk you

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through some of the highlights some of the videos that

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stood out to me. First of all, this video from

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a US military censor in Syria. The videos from twenty

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twenty one, and you can see what looks like a

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bright sphere, sort of like a bright sphere looking orb

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traveling over the surface.

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Speaker 2: And look at this.

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Speaker 8: At one point it actually.

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Speaker 13: Picks up speed and zooms off, which is something that

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experts are especially perplexed by. This next video is a

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formation of UFOs over the Persian Gulf, again captured by

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a military censor. There are like what looks like three

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dots you can see traveling together. This video was uploaded

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to a classified network in October of twenty nineteen. And

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this is another video, this one from October of twenty twenty.

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Looks like a little black dot traveling over a city.

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We don't know exactly where it is, but again it

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was captured by a military censor.

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Speaker 8: Also the release today.

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Speaker 13: There are some audio recordings, including one with an astronaut,

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a man named Scott Carpenter.

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Speaker 9: In nineteen sixty two. He was up in space when.

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Speaker 13: He reported seeing particles that he described looking like snowflakes. Again,

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there was no description.

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Speaker 12: Natasha Brian Anson with that, thank you for more. We

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are joined by Newsnation's special corresponds.

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Speaker 6: You can watch it all night.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's interesting stuff.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but check it out, go to what is it

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UFO dot gov.

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Speaker 9: I haven't seen him all yet, but it's pretty cool stuff.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's getting start of heat up a bit. All

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right then clip oh, I know what I was gonna

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mention today. Just I heard that one of our jets

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was shot down, and then they corrected it and said

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the guy reported seen a jellyfish in the air the

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pilot and then I don't know if he collided with

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it and he bailed out, but he said.

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Speaker 9: It was a UFO story.

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Speaker 6: And of course they originally blamed it on Iranian drones

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and the guy's like, it wasn't a drone or wasn't

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a bunch of drones. It was like a jellyfish creature.

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canopy bailout?

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Speaker 9: Okay, that's that's crazy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, anyha, all right? The water you have next four

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sound is good. This is from ryan Isy Fishing. And

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you got to see the teeth. Look at the size

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of this fish.

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Speaker 14: That right there is an Amazon giant smoke the fly

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boat side. Unbelievable fight and look at those crazy teeth.

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One of the most vicious predators. These giant fangs on

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the bottom of their mouth are used to spear their prey,

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and if you look closely, you can see that there's

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a hole for each of them into their skull where

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they rest, and huge fins. These fish are pure muscle.

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One of the most epic predators here in the jungle.

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I'm out here fishing with Payari Kingdom.

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Speaker 9: Beautiful fish, one of them.

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Speaker 6: Blatch on your underwear, no, thank you, all right? And

470
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then clip five. This the sound is good. This is

471
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just a little fish this sky caught. But man, it

472
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the pressurized way too quick because he got it down

473
00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:59,960
at eleven hundred feet. Sporting guys, just pull this up

474
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:01,720
from eleven hundred feet.

475
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Speaker 1: I feel like I know what it's called.

476
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 8: But I can't remember.

477
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:07,079
Speaker 6: If you guys could get.

478
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 8: A species, I eat on this thing. This might be

479
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the craziest fish I know.

480
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Speaker 6: Somebody in the commons mentioned it looks like a Simpson

481
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,480
fish from the Simpsons. It do kind of okay, And

482
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then clip six. The sound is good on this. This

483
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is the sound of a baby roadrunner trying to get

484
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fed by his mother roadrunner, and it's quite obnoxious sounding. Listen, listen,

485
00:31:32,079 --> 00:31:52,119
to this, Yeah, soundtrack for a more movie.

486
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Speaker 9: Yeah, man, if I heard that, I didn't know what

487
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it was prehistoric, So yeah, that's uh, that's something else.

488
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Speaker 6: That's it. That is it. And then I did I

489
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:14,519
did get a press release. So apparently Maxim Feurek, who

490
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:21,920
specializes in Western Pennsylvania weirdness, he's publicly disputing Capturing Bigfoot,

491
00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:27,880
the recent documentary by filmmaker Mark Evans, and he's challenging

492
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,680
him to a debate publicly. So there you go.

493
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Speaker 9: Interesting. Yeah, it's uh, the fact that that film isn't

494
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out yet kind of says a lot in my opinion.

495
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But yeah, we really don't till we see it. Kind

496
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:43,960
of reserve opinion until we see it.

497
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well we'll see if just Mark Evans takes him

498
00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:54,839
up on debate. I would debate the guy. All right,

499
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:58,480
what you got, that's it, that's it, that's it all

500
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,119
we got. Now we're gonna I don't know if you

501
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:03,839
have any commercials you need to do way, and then

502
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we're going to introduce Linda Eastbourn.

503
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Speaker 9: Okay, excited, take a few minutes, break right back.

504
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,359
Speaker 1: Will Oh.

505
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Speaker 15: Yes, they say they came with their stories, they came

506
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with their proof.

507
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:28,559
Speaker 8: From the abolition.

508
00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 7: Hollers to the cabin crew.

509
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 15: The New York Bigfoot Conference just offers more convincing proof.

510
00:33:41,359 --> 00:33:43,359
Speaker 8: Sasquats believers.

511
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 6: The skeptics too, under one big gerna.

512
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:59,319
Speaker 4: With a curious crew, vendor booths and chili fries, crimstit

513
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:07,160
shirt saying every size big for the room. Yes, this

514
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:16,760
seems spy him just the other day, and I.

515
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Speaker 6: Can't believe what I just saw.

516
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 15: It looked like a sass was shadows place, bitch forre.

517
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:34,599
Speaker 8: Don't look gooise. The man was gonna leave.

518
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 6: Camera says he heard the howl.

519
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,519
Speaker 8: By a creek so quiet.

520
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 7: You're an old church tower, w walm and saw footbrins

521
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:55,760
as big as a place. She said, I froze in

522
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:05,639
the woods. I couldn't escape. Celebrity streets, camera flash selling

523
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,039
big flooding mons for your money, stash big lots of.

524
00:35:11,039 --> 00:35:12,159
Speaker 8: Gay suns.

525
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 7: The year they see.

526
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 4: Spotted him just the other day.

527
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 7: Freel of shadows, flee.

528
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,599
Speaker 8: Big flottery, don't look away.

529
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: Come to the New York big Foot Conference and police.

530
00:35:42,840 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 16: Mm hmm, good du pern normal mystery stories to come

531
00:36:04,519 --> 00:36:13,239
alive be mercy. Book technology can go one publishing step inside.

532
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 8: Step inside, we're back.

533
00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:48,599
Speaker 9: Talk somewhere. I'm verified. He's an unverified, verified.

534
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:57,599
Speaker 6: Day, very completely unverified. All right, Linda Eastburn, she is

535
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:05,440
over thirty years of experience intuitive arts, paranormal research, and

536
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:08,800
apparently I didn't know this about her. She developed or

537
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,039
was a creator of SBI technique, a creator of a

538
00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:19,679
unique method for manifesting through future remote viewing. She's got

539
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,000
a number of publications out, author of Threshold to Encounters

540
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:30,280
exploring Bigfoot in UFO Phenomena. She's got a big media presence.

541
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She's the host of the Linda Eastbourn YouTube channel featuring

542
00:37:35,199 --> 00:37:45,119
interviews with paranormal experiences, and does a lot of research contributions,

543
00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:54,519
including she founded the Midwest Research Society, leading investigative trips

544
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,559
into the unknown. So there you go. But that's just

545
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,199
a little bit of her bio. But let's bring Linda on,

546
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:01,679
all right.

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Speaker 9: Welcome Linda.

548
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 6: Hello, Hi, Hey, how are you well?

549
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:08,679
Speaker 1: Thank you?

550
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Speaker 6: What state do you live in again, Linda?

551
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:16,159
Speaker 1: I live in Missouri, southern southern area, southern southwest.

552
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 6: Okay, right in the middle of the US. And what's

553
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,320
the weather like in the middle of the US in

554
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,880
the summer? Is it really hot? In human or.

555
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: Hummus human hot and humid right now, chrise. We just

556
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,519
got through a flash flood situation last week. It was

557
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,800
just horrendous, and then just before that it was all

558
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,000
the tornadoes. So we're still in some strange weather patterns

559
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:42,079
right now. Usually this time of year it's just dry.

560
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:44,679
Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, we had a beautiful week last week, but

561
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,800
now we're getting Missouri weather and it's all hot and

562
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,360
humid and gonna get worse every day, I guess for

563
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,960
a while, for like a week. Anyhow. So one of

564
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,880
the main questions I want to know, how did you

565
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,280
do you get interested in any one thing in the paranormal?

566
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,400
Was it Bigfoot? Was it ghosts? Was it UFOs? What

567
00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:12,280
got you really hooked on this topic?

568
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,639
Speaker 1: It was, well, I've always been interested in the mysteries

569
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:18,719
of life, so that was a given. But back in

570
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,119
the late eighties early nineties, there was a UFO flat

571
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:25,079
that came through our area here and that got me

572
00:39:25,159 --> 00:39:30,079
involved with a Moufin group of investigators, and because I

573
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,400
was working in the field of hypnosis at that time,

574
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,719
they decided to use me as kind of a second

575
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,840
person to do the hypnotic regressions with people who felt

576
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,280
like they had experiences. So I had a first, first

577
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,480
line of knowledge base with these people because they were

578
00:39:49,559 --> 00:39:52,400
exploring experiences that they could remember bits and pieces of

579
00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:56,840
maybe a light you know when they were young, outside

580
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,320
the kitchen window, or something, memory of maybe something in

581
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,559
their bedroom, you know, just odd things like that.

582
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,039
Speaker 6: So okay, well back the truck up. So you so

583
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,519
you're so you are a you're a hypnotist, yes, and

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00:40:11,639 --> 00:40:14,239
you do therapy on people, I would imagine.

585
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I help people to do with regressions and things like.

586
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That's not my number one thing today, but that was

587
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certainly something I was deeply invested in then and I

588
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do it still today.

589
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Speaker 6: But not I mean, does does do people know you

590
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,079
you advertise that? I mean, I mean, because there's there's

591
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got to be a gillion research or not researchers, witnesses

592
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:41,199
that want it and just you know, don't know where

593
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to get it.

594
00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:45,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are probably It's not as popular as it

595
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,639
was then. You know, there were a lot of books

596
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that were coming out at the time. It was kind

597
00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:52,960
of fat ish to to have a regression and see

598
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,079
what you thought. You know, it's in your mind. So

599
00:40:56,199 --> 00:40:58,960
I don't have that as much today. Not not as

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much now with the disco you're coming out right now,

601
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,079
you know, that may have a resurgence because people are

602
00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:08,440
beginning to remember again because their their mind is being

603
00:41:08,519 --> 00:41:11,440
jogged by all of this. That's that's coming forward.

604
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,639
Speaker 6: Have you regressed bigfaw witnesses?

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Speaker 1: I would like to regress Bigfoot witnesses. I've been offered that,

606
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but I haven't had anyone come forward and be willing

607
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,679
to do that. You know, the Bigfoot community and the

608
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,199
UFO community are slightly different group of people. So the

609
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,880
Bigfoot community is a little bit more conservative and they're

610
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,519
a little bit more you know, the just playing flesh

611
00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:38,119
and blood type of believers. The UFO community varies a

612
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:39,840
little bit more. And even though a lot of them

613
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,000
are you know, yes they're into the craft and things

614
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:45,079
like that, but there's such a variety of people and

615
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:48,480
if you UFO community that want to know if they've

616
00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:52,239
had an experience. Also, Bigfoot doesn't seem to be abducting people.

617
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You know, in the UFO community, people feel like that

618
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,559
they have been taken aboard a ship and taken somewhere

619
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,400
and bizarre thing happened to them. They may have a

620
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,880
physical exam and with big floot. They don't feel like

621
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,079
those things are happening to them, right, they were kind

622
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of agenda motivation.

623
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Speaker 6: Well, I had a chance, Linda to witness. We flew

624
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:21,880
in a bunch of witnesses, double witnesses, and we had

625
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:28,159
a therapist hypnotize all these people to regress their their

626
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:33,440
interaction because apparently these people had a very traumatic experience.

627
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Either they were really young when it happened, felt really

628
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:40,280
in danger. But I want to tell you it was

629
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so powerful, the amount of screaming and tears and things

630
00:42:46,159 --> 00:42:50,079
that I got to see firsthand, and we filmed it

631
00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:54,079
for Legending Science. It was amazing. I wouldn't even mind

632
00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:59,920
talking to you about doing another section in getting some volunteers,

633
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,320
which of course have to be highly vetted in order,

634
00:43:03,639 --> 00:43:05,679
you know, to make sure that would they would be

635
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,519
good candidates for it, But i'd be well, I'd love

636
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to talk to you about maybe doing another group of people.

637
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, facinating experience.

638
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 6: Every single one had new details and that's where it was.

639
00:43:21,679 --> 00:43:24,920
Were you here Jeff for some of that? Oh you were,

640
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:29,840
Oh yeah, that's right, and yeah that was it was amazing.

641
00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:34,400
But yeah, I to talk to you about that Linda, Okay,

642
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:36,679
and so yeah, and so if you're in the audience

643
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,480
and you think you've had a traumatic experience, yeah, get

644
00:43:41,519 --> 00:43:43,480
a hold of me. We'll get you on at least

645
00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:44,440
get you on a list.

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00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: Okay.

647
00:43:47,159 --> 00:43:50,199
Speaker 6: So I didn't mean to just barge in there and

648
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,280
kind of screw up your flow, but I just didn't

649
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,320
know that about you, that you were doing that too.

650
00:43:57,079 --> 00:43:59,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, lots of things.

651
00:44:00,679 --> 00:44:02,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, you really, I mean you really kind of go

652
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,239
at everything from a whole bunch of different directions. And so,

653
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:11,119
can you give us a little bit of a maybe

654
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,719
something you heard during therapy from somebody not giving me

655
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,920
any names or anything. Was there something that really convinced

656
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:24,360
you that all of this paranormal activity or UFO activity

657
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:24,800
is real?

658
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Speaker 1: You know, I think their experience was real. They definitely

659
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had the emotional depth with the experience, fear trauma, you know,

660
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all of that to convince me that whatever they experienced,

661
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,239
it was definitely a real experience and weren't making this

662
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,800
stuff up. It was just they they were not. So

663
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,840
I guess that convinced me. With the UFOs, I always

664
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,239
kind of believed there were UFOs out there, so it

665
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,559
didn't take much to convince me of UFOs as far

666
00:44:52,679 --> 00:44:56,199
as their experiences go. However, being abducted.

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Speaker 8: Was new to me.

668
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Speaker 1: I remember the first time I heard someone say this

669
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,920
was so far fetched. Someone was in my house talking

670
00:45:02,039 --> 00:45:05,599
about UFOs and they said they were driving down the

671
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,480
road in a car and the entire car was taken

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up into a craft. And I'm thinking, that's the most

673
00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:13,800
ridiculous thing I've ever heard, and I just did not

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00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,000
believe that. I absolutely did not believe that. And then

675
00:45:17,159 --> 00:45:19,440
as years went by and I was in the community

676
00:45:19,559 --> 00:45:21,880
much more, I started hearing that sort of thing more

677
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,519
and more and more, and I realized, well, maybe that

678
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,559
is true, you know, I don't know, So the stories

679
00:45:27,639 --> 00:45:31,800
got more bizarre, and the belief that I had stretched

680
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,480
a lot farther, you know, because I realized we were

681
00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:37,320
dealing with some kind of a reality, perhaps that we

682
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don't understand.

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Speaker 6: Have you ever, Cayus, have you ever had any kind

684
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of paranormal crypton encounter that kind of turned you on

685
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,360
even more, gets you more involved?

686
00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, probably. Just a couple of months after I

687
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,440
got involved with Muffon, I was out. I grew up

688
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in the country, so I was out in the country

689
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at a relative's house, and it's pretty remote. There wasn't

690
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a house in sight. You know, if you went down

691
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,360
the road a little ways, you'd buy see a house,

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but not where I was sitting. So it was around

693
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ten thirty at night. It was dark out, and my

694
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,719
husband was talking to my brother in law, so he

695
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,000
was back in a garage or someplace where were getting

696
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,599
ready to leave and they have something he wanted to

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00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:24,840
show himself. I'm just sitting there in our vehicle and

698
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,119
I'm looking across the road into a field, and the

699
00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:31,480
field was an open pasture, and then just beyond that,

700
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just a little bit of an elevation, was a tree line.

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Not much behind that tree line, but I saw this

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orange light back there, just above the tree line, and

703
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I'm thinking, well, maybe that's an airplane that's going to

704
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,199
go on over, But it didn't. It just stayed still,

705
00:46:48,519 --> 00:46:50,719
and I watched this for probably ten to fifteen minutes,

706
00:46:51,159 --> 00:46:53,840
and then suddenly it just slowly went down behind the

707
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:58,559
tree lines. Kind of an unusual maneuver for this orange light.

708
00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 6: Oh.

709
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,679
Speaker 1: I didn't think too much about it until See that

710
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,719
was a Thursday night, and I think it was Sunday.

711
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,920
I was at my in law's house, and they knew

712
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,639
the people who owned that particular farm right there, and

713
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,599
the people who owned the farm to the left and

714
00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:15,239
the farm to the right, and it was not publicly known.

715
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,199
If I had not known these people, and if they

716
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,239
had not been well versed with the neighbors, I probably

717
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,559
would never have found this out. But there was a

718
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,079
cow mutilated in the field right there where I was looking,

719
00:47:26,639 --> 00:47:29,320
And there was also a cow mutilated to the farm

720
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,000
to the left and the farm to the right. Now,

721
00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:35,599
they blew this off as some kind of cult, you know,

722
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,840
killing and things like that. I didn't see the animals.

723
00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:41,599
I don't know if they were the typical animal mutilation

724
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,039
or not. But I just found it kind of odd

725
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,360
that as I'm watching this, you know, there's a cow's

726
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,480
being mutilated that night in the same Wow.

727
00:47:50,679 --> 00:47:52,519
Speaker 6: It's kind of a coincidence, right, yeah.

728
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, And now my mother in law as well as

729
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,159
that same brother in law both saw something more significant

730
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,679
than that. My mother was fourth or four thirty in

731
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,440
the afternoon. It wasn't far from this very same site here.

732
00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:06,599
She was just taking a walk down the road. It

733
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,119
was just a you know, blacktop road, you know, not

734
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,519
a lot of traffic, but not terribly rual either, and

735
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,840
she turned that car passed her by, so when she

736
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,480
knew she turned around to wave at them. And she

737
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,280
noticed that as they turned this this curve, it was

738
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:25,360
a tee intersection that there was this metallic thing didn't

739
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,599
make any noise, and it was moving very slowly across

740
00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:32,039
that intersection, and it was very bright, very shiny, was

741
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:35,400
about the size of an automobile. She said, four thirty

742
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,039
in the afternoon. I mean it was you know, it

743
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:39,599
wasn't dark. It wasn't you know. And her neighbor was

744
00:48:39,639 --> 00:48:41,760
with her neighbor. She got her attention. She didn't see

745
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,159
it went behind some trees before that. This is the

746
00:48:44,199 --> 00:48:46,320
weird thing about that one, though, because it could have been,

747
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,920
you know, anything maybe. But she called her neighbor in

748
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,239
a few days and asked her if she saw anything,

749
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,000
because they would have been visually capable of seeing that intersection.

750
00:48:57,119 --> 00:48:59,960
They were not far from there. And her neighbor said, now,

751
00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:01,800
you know, they weren't home at that time of day.

752
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,400
But the weird thing was that night they looked out

753
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,320
on their pasture in this farm country. They looked out

754
00:49:08,639 --> 00:49:11,960
side out the back of their house and in the

755
00:49:12,039 --> 00:49:14,119
pasture back there's some distance from the house. There was

756
00:49:14,159 --> 00:49:17,239
a light on the ground. That's very highly unusual. It

757
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:19,760
would have been very highly unusual the same night that

758
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,480
she saw this unusual craft. And then just up the

759
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:24,679
road from that, my brother in law when one day

760
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,400
he was leaving for work really early in the morning,

761
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,840
and you know, it was like three two thirty three

762
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,239
in the morning, very early. He pulled out, he saw

763
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,840
a light in the distant eastern sky and he thought, well,

764
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,440
that was strange, but you know, it's just a bright

765
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:42,480
light some distance away. He turned a curve and suddenly

766
00:49:42,599 --> 00:49:47,079
this light was shining down, just completely illuminating his automobile,

767
00:49:47,199 --> 00:49:49,280
and he rolls down his window. He doesn't hear anything,

768
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,320
he turns off his automobile. Nothing, he can hear nothing,

769
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,440
but it's like this bright light coming down on him.

770
00:49:56,159 --> 00:50:01,519
And as very quickly it turned off. He couldn't see anything,

771
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:04,320
he couldn't hear anything. He just went on to work

772
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,519
and he didn't tell anyone until we started talking about

773
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:10,280
my mother's experience just down the road, and then he

774
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,320
started talking about seeing this light. So those are close

775
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,920
to home, you know, relatives seeing things. My sister also

776
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,800
saw an unusual light. One night, she was staying at

777
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,440
her in law's house and they lived way way back

778
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,519
off the road, you know, the long lane to their house,

779
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:29,840
and she saw a light out there. They were spending

780
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,480
the night. They were just kind of house setting for

781
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:33,400
her in laws. I think she and her husband and

782
00:50:33,519 --> 00:50:36,920
young daughter. And she looks outside and there's this bright

783
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:39,480
light at the window, and she's thinking, she's thinking, well,

784
00:50:39,639 --> 00:50:42,039
you know, who would that be, what would it be?

785
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,400
She wakes up her husband and this like those you know,

786
00:50:45,559 --> 00:50:48,960
some distance down a way, and then suddenly it's back

787
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,199
at the window and some distance away. I'm back at

788
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,199
the window just within a few seconds. It was an

789
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,559
unusual than So he gets up, turns on the porch light.

790
00:50:57,079 --> 00:51:01,400
No light is seen, and they turned the light back off.

791
00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:03,760
No light is scene. They decided to just go home

792
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,039
and leave the house to be But that was an

793
00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:08,280
unusual thing too, And it was all in the same area.

794
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,920
And now the really weird thing is that same community,

795
00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:15,239
that very same community. This was back in the seventies

796
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:24,360
when it was like Bigfoot wasn't a very popular subject

797
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:26,920
in the seventies. You know, nobody knew what bigfoot was.

798
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,239
They might have heard of it, but you know, it

799
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,719
wasn't mainstream. You know, it wasn't anything anyone was talking about.

800
00:51:33,079 --> 00:51:35,679
But there were two farms close by, and this one

801
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,760
farmer was coming into town the little community store and

802
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,960
such an talking about something must have escaped the zoo

803
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:47,400
because there was this thing. He said, it looked kind

804
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,320
of like a monkey, but you know, it was an unusual, big,

805
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,800
you know like creature that he'd seen several times on

806
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:57,239
his farm. And then the man right across the road,

807
00:51:57,519 --> 00:52:01,320
that farmer, he also was reporting seen this unusual thing.

808
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,840
So this was all happening within I'd call it, you know,

809
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:07,840
it's like within a ten mile radius. The orange light.

810
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,320
I saw the light, you know, over the vehicle, my

811
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,079
mother seeing the UFO craft, the unusual light coming and

812
00:52:15,159 --> 00:52:18,440
going from the window. And then these two bigfoot creatures

813
00:52:18,519 --> 00:52:21,079
that were on these farms were all happening in the

814
00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:22,000
same vicinity.

815
00:52:24,639 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 6: Wow. Have you ever had anything invade your private space

816
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:35,079
at home when you're young, or the ghost or anything

817
00:52:35,159 --> 00:52:35,840
that you've seen.

818
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a ghost at all. I owned a

819
00:52:40,519 --> 00:52:43,840
house one time that was haunted, but it was a

820
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,119
rental property. It was an investment that we purchased and

821
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:49,440
it had some winters in it, and they talked about

822
00:52:49,519 --> 00:52:52,639
the ghost that was there. They had things that moved

823
00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:54,880
around in the house, and the house was so haunted

824
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,519
that all the neighbors knew it. And a woman had

825
00:52:57,519 --> 00:53:00,559
comitted suicide apparently in the addict of the house, and

826
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,440
they suspected that was why it was haunted. Now, we

827
00:53:04,519 --> 00:53:06,880
didn't own the house very long, and we didn't sell

828
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,199
it because it was haunted. But we didn't own it

829
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,480
for very long, and it even made the news when

830
00:53:12,559 --> 00:53:14,400
Halloween because it was so haunted and we had the

831
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:15,440
whole community knew it.

832
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,639
Speaker 6: But not for you.

833
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: No, I have no no, I'm going to take that back.

834
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,199
I had one experience and it was it was something

835
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,920
I can't, you know, put my finger on but exactly

836
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,159
what happened. But it was one night when I there

837
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:31,199
were a couple of ladies at my house. I was

838
00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:33,800
sitting on the floor, A couple of ladies were in

839
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,719
the house, and we were all just talking about this

840
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,440
and that, you know, we were all into kind of

841
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,920
paranormal things though, and all of a sudden, and this

842
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:45,079
was unusual. I felt something kind of unusual behind my

843
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:47,199
back in this corner of the room, the living room,

844
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,000
and I felt uncomfortable enough that I got up, sat

845
00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:53,920
on the sofa and just mentioned, well, that's odd because

846
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,599
I feel this kind of strangeness behind my back. One

847
00:53:56,639 --> 00:53:59,400
of the women there said she saw something moving around back,

848
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,360
or just kind of energy of some sort. You didn't

849
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,519
know what it was, but there.

850
00:54:03,639 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 6: You know.

851
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,159
Speaker 1: I was working as a hypnotherapist at the time, and

852
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:09,280
the next day a man comes to my house for

853
00:54:09,519 --> 00:54:13,239
if no secession. I don't know this man. He comes

854
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,639
in the living he comes in the hallway, and he stops.

855
00:54:16,679 --> 00:54:18,679
He's looking around the house, and I'm thinking, you know,

856
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,559
should I run out the front door or something, because

857
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:23,039
he's not behaving normally. So then he goes into my

858
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:26,159
family room, looks outside, comes back. He's not saying anything,

859
00:54:26,199 --> 00:54:28,760
and he puts his hands across his chest and suddenly

860
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,000
he said, I think my father used to own this house.

861
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,239
And it's like, okay, that's interesting, and then he pointed

862
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,039
to that very corner that I felt that uneasiness, and

863
00:54:40,159 --> 00:54:42,920
my friend had seen that energy movement back there, and

864
00:54:43,039 --> 00:54:46,719
he said, and he died right there in a chair,

865
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,760
And so I thought that was really confirming that you know,

866
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,480
something was going on in bettery. That's the only time

867
00:54:53,519 --> 00:54:56,360
that that's the only time that I've had anything in

868
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,480
my house, but I could feel that. There was another

869
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:03,599
time a woman came for hypnosis to another in another

870
00:55:03,679 --> 00:55:06,760
house that I was living at, and that morning before

871
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,760
she got there, she's coming in the afternoon. I had

872
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,119
this little there was this little cutout like window like

873
00:55:13,199 --> 00:55:16,960
thing in my kitchen that looked across to the formal

874
00:55:17,079 --> 00:55:20,519
living room, and I was doing some things in the kitchen,

875
00:55:20,639 --> 00:55:24,039
and just several times I would think that there was

876
00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:27,880
some one standing in the corner of the living room

877
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,920
and I'd look and I didn't see anything, but I

878
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,639
got this impression of something tall, and it was like

879
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,320
a dark figure. And I would think, well, is my

880
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,599
husband here? And I knew he had already left, he

881
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,039
wasn't home, but I just got this sense there was

882
00:55:40,199 --> 00:55:43,480
this tall, dark figure in the corner. I saw that

883
00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:46,639
maybe three or four times. Didn't think too much about it.

884
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,320
But when the lady got there, we're in that very

885
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,239
same room and she begins by talking about her childhood,

886
00:55:53,679 --> 00:55:58,159
and she said she grew up with this very tall,

887
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,639
dark figure that would just lean over her at night

888
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,639
and I'm thinking in my mind, so, well, I think

889
00:56:04,679 --> 00:56:07,800
he showed up this morning because I was seeing something

890
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,360
that looked a lot like she was describing, and I

891
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,079
didn't see it with my eyes. It was always at

892
00:56:12,119 --> 00:56:14,079
the corner of my eye, and it was always very brief,

893
00:56:14,119 --> 00:56:15,440
and when I would look at it straight on, it

894
00:56:15,559 --> 00:56:16,000
wasn't there.

895
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess, I guess you call those shadow people.

896
00:56:20,599 --> 00:56:23,679
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, it never it wasn't there after she left,

897
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,079
So it was just that brief Brie that I saw.

898
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 6: So I'm going to ask you what if question, Linda?

899
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:36,480
So what if? What does Linda Eastbourn do? And she

900
00:56:36,639 --> 00:56:39,559
walks around the corner in her kitchen and there's an

901
00:56:39,639 --> 00:56:45,239
alien standing there? Are you afraid? Are you excited? Are

902
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:46,159
you what are you going to do?

903
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to be startled. First of all, I would

904
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,920
just be totally startled. I don't think I would have

905
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:56,079
any kind of preparation I had in advance to know

906
00:56:56,199 --> 00:56:59,480
what to do. I've heard so many stories about aliens,

907
00:56:59,519 --> 00:57:04,000
and no, so many people have had experiences with aliens

908
00:57:04,159 --> 00:57:08,559
that and such a variety of experiences. Pretty much, you know,

909
00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:11,280
you don't have a lot of control in that situation.

910
00:57:11,519 --> 00:57:13,119
You know, whatever they want to do is what they're

911
00:57:13,159 --> 00:57:16,360
going to do, So that's that's I don't know. I

912
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,440
think it would be very startled. I think I would

913
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,760
probably be a little bit in shock, and I would

914
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,719
probably just stand there and wait to see what they're

915
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,280
going to do, because I know I would probably wouldn't

916
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,039
have a lot of control.

917
00:57:27,519 --> 00:57:30,159
Speaker 6: Well, what are what is Linda afraid of? Could you

918
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,679
deal with this weird stuff every day every week? Every

919
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,880
day every week? But what what gives you? I mean,

920
00:57:38,639 --> 00:57:40,519
do you have a fear because of what you know?

921
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,000
Walking in the woods alone? You have a fear of

922
00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:47,440
you know, the dark? I mean do you ever do

923
00:57:47,519 --> 00:57:49,840
you sleep with a night light? Do you not? I mean,

924
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,320
I'm just kind of curious.

925
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:51,639
Speaker 9: Were you?

926
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,119
Speaker 1: Very few things scare me? Now I can say when

927
00:57:55,159 --> 00:57:57,840
we were filming by Ways of Bigfoot out by the

928
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,199
Niegua River, I would go out there film alone in

929
00:58:01,559 --> 00:58:04,159
daytime because we needed the footage. You know, we just

930
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,679
needed nature shots. We needed, you know, all of these shots.

931
00:58:06,679 --> 00:58:08,159
So I would just go out there by myself and

932
00:58:08,679 --> 00:58:12,159
walk the trail and get some imagery that we needed

933
00:58:12,239 --> 00:58:16,920
the photos. So, you know, at that time, I did

934
00:58:17,039 --> 00:58:20,679
not think one single thing about doing that it was

935
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,360
it seemed it was a very peaceful experience. I love

936
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:24,679
the woods, I love nature.

937
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 9: So but when we.

938
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: Started actually taking the group out there and getting more

939
00:58:29,639 --> 00:58:33,599
deeply invested in looking for evidence, we started finding evidence.

940
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,159
And it was a part of me that thought you

941
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,599
were a little of a risk taker to go out

942
00:58:38,599 --> 00:58:41,119
there by yourself, you know, and no one even knew

943
00:58:41,159 --> 00:58:44,519
I was there, you know, and to do that filming alone.

944
00:58:44,599 --> 00:58:47,079
So I guess I would be a little bit evident

945
00:58:47,159 --> 00:58:48,840
today to not take someone with me.

946
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but you're not over it. See, I'm a

947
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:57,079
scaredy can now because of what I've seen, you know.

948
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,920
I just yeah, I'm a little more jumpy, a little

949
00:59:00,159 --> 00:59:05,360
more afraid to do things alone. You know. We've seen

950
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,039
some weird stuff through the years, you know, not mine,

951
00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:11,440
you know what I mean, really space to part years

952
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,320
and years apart, but you know that stuff doesn't go away.

953
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,039
When I have to take the garbage out, my head's

954
00:59:18,079 --> 00:59:23,559
on a swivel, only because I'm alone. It's dark, and

955
00:59:24,039 --> 00:59:27,679
I've seen things, you know. It's like, I just yeah,

956
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,559
it's sounds terrible. I to admit that stuff. But when

957
00:59:32,599 --> 00:59:34,880
I was with somebody, I'm brave as Welle For some

958
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:37,599
weird reason. It's like, if you're going to die, you

959
00:59:37,719 --> 00:59:38,480
need a witness.

960
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I haven't seen enough that's frightened me.

961
00:59:46,239 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 6: You know.

962
00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: Even though I saw, you know, these odd things, they

963
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,360
were brief moments and I did. Yeah, they didn't put

964
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,400
me into a state of fear. I just really haven't

965
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,760
been exposed to that, have you.

966
00:59:58,039 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 6: I mean, okay, do you ever go out looking for trouble?

967
01:00:01,519 --> 01:00:04,280
As they say, a.

968
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:08,079
Speaker 1: Little bit but not much? Yeah, you know, I put

969
01:00:08,159 --> 01:00:11,000
myself in positions. You know, I've been in huge groups

970
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,280
the Midwest Research Society. We did travel groups, you know,

971
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,400
to look for UFO spots and you know, to try

972
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,599
to get ce a UFO basically is what we were

973
01:00:21,639 --> 01:00:21,960
looking for.

974
01:00:22,119 --> 01:00:22,239
Speaker 6: You know.

975
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: I've been in all kinds of remote places, you know,

976
01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:27,840
and heard all kinds of strange things. But it just

977
01:00:28,039 --> 01:00:31,320
doesn't seem to Nothing seems to happen, you know when

978
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,599
we try to create that. Now I can say once

979
01:00:33,719 --> 01:00:37,599
I created this experiment to see if we could project

980
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,320
a UFO and be able to get a picture of

981
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,480
one just from our mental projection.

982
01:00:42,239 --> 01:00:44,639
Speaker 6: And that's SPI technique. Yeah.

983
01:00:45,159 --> 01:00:48,599
Speaker 1: Well, it was long before that, so it's one that

984
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,159
I just came up with on my own because I

985
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,360
was doing a lot of this. I just got this

986
01:00:53,559 --> 01:00:58,079
idea that some of these experiences may be kind of

987
01:00:58,199 --> 01:01:01,039
our own interaction with what every So I got a

988
01:01:01,079 --> 01:01:03,280
grip together and they didn't know what we were doing.

989
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,800
So there was this silhouette. It was kind of a

990
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,719
UFO shape to the silhouette that they were to look

991
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,519
at every day for a certain period of time. And

992
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,079
then we gathered on a Sunday afternoon, nice beautiful day,

993
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,960
some clouds in the sky, and we just went outside,

994
01:01:17,079 --> 01:01:19,840
looked into the sky, imagined the same shape, and I

995
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,440
just took about fifty pictures, just bam bam, bam, bam bam.

996
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:25,639
This is before digital and this was just take pictures

997
01:01:25,679 --> 01:01:28,400
of the clouds. We didn't see anything. When I got

998
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,639
them developed, however, there was this very unusual kind of

999
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:38,079
grayish like saucer shape in every picture, and it had

1000
01:01:38,159 --> 01:01:41,079
this kind of ring around the center of it. Now

1001
01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:44,639
you know, it was still looked like a cloud basically,

1002
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,480
but it did stand out. It stood out from the

1003
01:01:48,559 --> 01:01:51,039
other clouds, and it did have that shape to it

1004
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,559
that was and it was darker it was. It was

1005
01:01:53,639 --> 01:01:55,400
kind of a grayish color. The rest of the clouds

1006
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,400
were more of a white, fluffy cloud. So we did

1007
01:01:58,519 --> 01:02:01,400
do that. But you know, and some of that group

1008
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,400
I'm still in contact with, and we just decided yesterday

1009
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,199
to go back out and see if we can repeat that,

1010
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:13,320
see if we can get anything more definite keyword group. Yes. Yes.

1011
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,719
Speaker 6: Could you imagine the going out walking, parking your car,

1012
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,119
walking out into a field at one in the morning,

1013
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:24,599
and doing whatever this uh technique is alone with them?

1014
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,320
Would that scare you a bit? Yeah?

1015
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that at neither. I don't think I would.

1016
01:02:31,519 --> 01:02:34,039
Speaker 6: I just cares how brave you are. I was trying

1017
01:02:34,079 --> 01:02:39,440
to figure out how chick and I am by comparison. So, gosh,

1018
01:02:41,519 --> 01:02:46,480
let's talk about UFO disclosure just a bit. Are you disappointed?

1019
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:50,480
Are you excited? What's you know? And what's currently going on?

1020
01:02:51,719 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: I think most of what is being disclosed right now,

1021
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,199
anyone in the UFO community pretty much already knows that.

1022
01:02:57,559 --> 01:03:00,199
So there's no newness to any of the disclosed or

1023
01:03:00,239 --> 01:03:03,719
at this point. I mean, it's the interesting thing is

1024
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,079
kind of behind the scenes, is why why are we

1025
01:03:06,199 --> 01:03:08,920
getting this information? Where's this going to go? I mean,

1026
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,440
I think most of the time, since there's it's been

1027
01:03:11,599 --> 01:03:14,880
under wraps for such a long time, you know, trying

1028
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,159
to convince people that it doesn't exist at all. Why

1029
01:03:17,199 --> 01:03:21,519
are we suddenly promoting this so heavily and releasing this?

1030
01:03:22,079 --> 01:03:23,960
You know, is it just for our own knowledge base?

1031
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:28,960
Or is there some strange manipulation of the American people?

1032
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:33,320
You know, are many people to you know, there is

1033
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,480
there something that's going to come along with this? I

1034
01:03:35,519 --> 01:03:37,719
guess that's my deeper questions.

1035
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 6: In other words, you're thinking about there's some hidden agenda.

1036
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,719
Speaker 1: Possibly, you know, I don't know what. Why else? Because

1037
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:45,199
why now?

1038
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:45,639
Speaker 6: Why?

1039
01:03:45,719 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: Why would it just suddenly come out?

1040
01:03:47,519 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 6: It is odd? Yeah, I do find it odd. I've

1041
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:54,360
asked myself that too. Is it because the whistle blowers

1042
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,239
have come forward? And I'm kind of like, now, there's

1043
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,280
been whistleblowers forever?

1044
01:04:00,119 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1045
01:04:01,199 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 6: Right. I remember watching whistleblowers back in the sixties, and

1046
01:04:06,599 --> 01:04:09,119
I'd watch those pieces of those clips of footage over

1047
01:04:09,159 --> 01:04:12,960
and over and over as a young guy. But yet

1048
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,360
nothing really came of it other than the skeptics are

1049
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,679
still very skeptic. You know, a lot of people see

1050
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,679
these little things darting around that they're releasing on the videos,

1051
01:04:26,119 --> 01:04:28,119
and they're like, it's just a blown So it's just

1052
01:04:28,519 --> 01:04:32,360
you know, they're still don't believe it. So what do

1053
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,159
you think there? Do you think they're interdimensional? Do you

1054
01:04:35,239 --> 01:04:38,000
think they're from other places? Do you think it's both?

1055
01:04:39,079 --> 01:04:41,639
Speaker 1: I mean, it could be both, but for the most part,

1056
01:04:41,719 --> 01:04:43,519
and this may be a bias on my part, and

1057
01:04:43,599 --> 01:04:45,119
I do a lot of remote viewing, a lot of

1058
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:48,960
psychic church and over the years, I think what I've

1059
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,239
seen is that they're probably constantly around us. We just

1060
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:56,119
don't have the perception skills to be aware of them,

1061
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,599
to see them. I think when we do have perception,

1062
01:05:00,199 --> 01:05:02,960
it may be a combination of things either. You know,

1063
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,400
somebody presented this on a podcast I was listening to

1064
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,599
the other day, and I've never thought of it before.

1065
01:05:08,719 --> 01:05:12,000
But you know, just as you know scientifically, you know,

1066
01:05:12,159 --> 01:05:14,880
as we observe something, you know, we can collapse away.

1067
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:19,719
Then he's thinking, maybe something about consciousness can collapse whatever

1068
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,119
causes them to be hidden so that we might see them,

1069
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,760
And then it goes back, of course, and we don't

1070
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,920
see them aymore. I think they're everywhere. The best description

1071
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,599
that came to me was they're like bacteria. We don't

1072
01:05:31,679 --> 01:05:35,039
see bacteria with our naked eye, but it's everywhere, So

1073
01:05:35,239 --> 01:05:39,159
I think they're everywhere, we just don't have knowledge of them.

1074
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 6: Well that makes sense, I mean that does. The question

1075
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,280
is why does some of us see them? Some of

1076
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,800
us never do, some of us never even know people

1077
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,199
that do, and some of us meet tons of people

1078
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:57,119
that do. It seems black and white, and it really

1079
01:05:57,519 --> 01:06:00,360
always kind of freaks me out, Like, Jeff, you've never

1080
01:06:00,519 --> 01:06:05,679
seen a UFO, and why I could honestly say I've

1081
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:10,639
seen over three hundred, and how does one guy zero

1082
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,280
and me three hundred? And I'm not talking about Look,

1083
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,559
I'm as big as of a skeptic as anybody. I'm

1084
01:06:16,599 --> 01:06:21,360
talking about closed UFOs. I'm talking about fifty feet away,

1085
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:27,079
thirty feet, ten feet, five feet. God. My first thing

1086
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:32,440
was I was nineteen, probably about nineteen seventy four or five.

1087
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,559
I was driving and there was something I thought was

1088
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:41,239
like a big chandelier over the intersection on this kind

1089
01:06:41,239 --> 01:06:45,159
of deserted road called con Rapids Boulevard. And as I

1090
01:06:45,239 --> 01:06:48,000
get closer, I'm like, why did they put a chandelier

1091
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,079
over the you know, like, that's kind of weird over

1092
01:06:51,199 --> 01:06:56,400
this intersection. It was blinding, and I kept driving towards it, thinking, well,

1093
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,840
where's the where's it hanging from? I actually thought they

1094
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:03,960
were upgrading intersections with bright lights, so I got closer.

1095
01:07:04,039 --> 01:07:08,199
When I kept getting closer and I see this domed,

1096
01:07:09,119 --> 01:07:14,360
this like glass clear dome, and this pretty saucer shaped bottom,

1097
01:07:15,239 --> 01:07:17,800
and it's just stuck there. There's no I'm looking, there's

1098
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,280
no poll. Then I think it's a hoax. So I

1099
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:24,519
started invest driving really slow, going okay, who's hoaxing me?

1100
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,039
And then when I got really close to it, and

1101
01:07:28,119 --> 01:07:30,079
I got out of my car and looked up at it.

1102
01:07:30,199 --> 01:07:33,400
I mean it was ten feet above the ground, so

1103
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,239
it wasn't very high, and it freaked me out. When

1104
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,360
I looked at it and realized what I was looking

1105
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,360
at was real. I got in my car and took off,

1106
01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:43,639
got to a safe distance, and then watched it across

1107
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:48,360
the road. But that was in the seventies, so I've

1108
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,800
had this closser since. And then I don't know what

1109
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:56,519
it was right, completely unverified, but I know it was real,

1110
01:07:57,599 --> 01:08:00,039
and that haunted me forever. And then, you know, I

1111
01:08:00,159 --> 01:08:03,719
kept seeing just things like that just kept happening. So

1112
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,360
I don't know, I don't know what it means. But yeah,

1113
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,360
there's nothing in the disclosure so far that I feel

1114
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,400
like is new info. How about the twist, Linda, what

1115
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:17,560
are your thoughts on the twist of one? The interdimensional

1116
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,640
kind of like the whole government, most of the senators

1117
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:26,319
are kind of, you know, hinting towards they're not space travelers,

1118
01:08:26,359 --> 01:08:31,800
they're interdimensional. And then the talk that the people that

1119
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,880
are claiming they're in the know, they say it's so

1120
01:08:34,279 --> 01:08:37,800
horrible that they're not going to even tell their families.

1121
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:44,319
That gets so depressing and so icky. What are your

1122
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:46,079
thoughts on that? Yeah?

1123
01:08:46,279 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: There again, I'm pretty open minded about what's going on.

1124
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,800
You know, I think that there may be some control

1125
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:57,119
factors with this, with the people, the American people, or

1126
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,600
there may be control factors in that the means maybe

1127
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:04,520
in control. You know, when you're in the UFO community,

1128
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,840
you hear every conspiracy theory possible, and I just have

1129
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,159
to be open minded about it. And you know, since

1130
01:09:11,319 --> 01:09:14,760
aliens really are not in my backyard and they're not

1131
01:09:15,159 --> 01:09:18,479
interfering that as far as I can tell with me,

1132
01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:22,960
so so you know, I can I'm allowed to be objective.

1133
01:09:23,039 --> 01:09:24,920
You know, I'm not seeing these things and they're not

1134
01:09:25,279 --> 01:09:27,720
entering my home and doing all these things. But if

1135
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,960
there's a bigger agenda, you know that the aliens have,

1136
01:09:31,319 --> 01:09:35,800
you know, of some sort. It seems almost like and

1137
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:37,880
I had a group yesterday and we were talking about

1138
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:42,279
this very thing, that it seems like there's something about

1139
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:46,159
this kind of another level of interaction that may be

1140
01:09:47,079 --> 01:09:51,079
attempting to occur. Now, whether that interaction is going to

1141
01:09:51,119 --> 01:09:55,079
be real and it's a reality that we're being prepared for,

1142
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,359
or whether it's going to be some kind of a

1143
01:09:58,479 --> 01:09:59,640
delusional hopes.

1144
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:06,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, what do they call it? Operation we've all heard about.

1145
01:10:06,159 --> 01:10:11,880
I don't know if it's real. It's unverified Bluebeam project Bluebeam,

1146
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,640
it's going to be holographic UFOs projected in the sky

1147
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,760
and kind of an invasion to kind of get more

1148
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:20,720
control over us.

1149
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 9: But then that sell, of.

1150
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 6: Course that is, of course it is. And then and

1151
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,279
then I wonder, and I don't know, if you've thought

1152
01:10:32,279 --> 01:10:35,560
about this, how much does the government know about I

1153
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,439
would imagine you believe the Bigfoots are real because of

1154
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:45,119
all the countless witnesses in sightings, But is it possible

1155
01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:48,640
the government wouldn't be studying that, just like they said

1156
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:52,039
they weren't studying UFOs forever. And you know, of course

1157
01:10:52,199 --> 01:10:54,319
we've all come to learn at least that that they've

1158
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:58,520
never stopped collecting data on UFOs. Do you think they're

1159
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,920
collecting data on the oh? I do.

1160
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,199
Speaker 1: I do think. I think the biggest thing with Bigfoot

1161
01:11:05,319 --> 01:11:08,000
is that would be the inconvenience of letting the public know,

1162
01:11:08,159 --> 01:11:10,199
because then there would be outcry of this and that

1163
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:16,319
and some sense of responsibility toward them. And I think

1164
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,359
it's easier to ignore that than it would be to

1165
01:11:20,079 --> 01:11:22,079
acknowledge it and deal with it now. And maybe that

1166
01:11:22,199 --> 01:11:24,680
was true of UFOs too, you know, it was just

1167
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,119
more trouble than it was worth to even begin to

1168
01:11:27,199 --> 01:11:30,880
introduce this into society. But there may be something coming

1169
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,840
down the line between UFOs and our government, or UFOs

1170
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,600
and human beings that we don't know about. I mean,

1171
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,520
I don't know. It's it's weird. A lot of the

1172
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:43,960
people that I hypnotized back in especially the nineties early

1173
01:11:44,039 --> 01:11:49,399
two thousands, you know, they were often in the process

1174
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,039
of being abducted. They wasn't just the physical exams. Oftentimes

1175
01:11:53,079 --> 01:11:55,760
they were being taught things. They were being shown how

1176
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,199
to drive the craft. They were being shown that there

1177
01:11:58,199 --> 01:12:01,399
would come a point in time or they would need

1178
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,239
to assist people in getting on the craft or go

1179
01:12:04,359 --> 01:12:06,399
off planet. I don't know if it was some kind

1180
01:12:06,399 --> 01:12:09,479
of unnatural disaster that was happening, or a new class

1181
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:13,279
or whatever, but they were being shown things and taught

1182
01:12:13,399 --> 01:12:17,560
things in case they needed to do this. So I mean,

1183
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,119
was that just you know, the save of the world

1184
01:12:20,199 --> 01:12:23,720
syndrome in their own mind, or was this a reality

1185
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,359
that the aliens were teaching them. Was this some kind

1186
01:12:26,399 --> 01:12:27,760
of an event that's coming up?

1187
01:12:28,199 --> 01:12:28,359
Speaker 6: You know?

1188
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:30,399
Speaker 1: Is there a need for us to know this?

1189
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:31,039
Speaker 6: You know?

1190
01:12:31,159 --> 01:12:34,079
Speaker 1: I don't know, But I'd have to take all of

1191
01:12:34,119 --> 01:12:39,880
that and put it into a box of consideration and

1192
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:42,600
and why do we do it?

1193
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:49,520
Speaker 5: And what about Okay, I guess my opinion is is

1194
01:12:50,239 --> 01:12:53,640
why would they at least have some little.

1195
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,159
Speaker 6: Group in the government. I mean, they have endless money

1196
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,920
to just study the Bigfoot mystery and probably have never

1197
01:13:00,159 --> 01:13:05,079
stop because like if if, whether you think they're there's

1198
01:13:05,239 --> 01:13:09,399
some kind of interdimensional creatures or there's a relationship with

1199
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:14,079
UFOs or there's a flush of blood, I mean, all

1200
01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:16,960
of it you would think would interest the government. Every

1201
01:13:17,079 --> 01:13:19,079
bit of those you would think.

1202
01:13:19,159 --> 01:13:23,119
Speaker 1: So it seems like with Bigfoot, I don't know what

1203
01:13:23,279 --> 01:13:25,479
are they going to study with Bigfoot other than they're

1204
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,279
just there. You know. With the UFOs, it seems like

1205
01:13:28,359 --> 01:13:31,520
there's a much broader piece of information there, you know,

1206
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:35,359
like stopping nuclear weapons, you know, showing up around, you know,

1207
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:41,720
warships and you know there's shot shooting.

1208
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 6: Them down Lindon collecting the degree.

1209
01:13:43,079 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, that's true. I mean there's all kinds

1210
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,760
of things with it. Yeah, that you don't care about

1211
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,680
that with with Bigfoot, it's just kind of like in

1212
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,439
the woods. Leave them there, don't bother them. Yeah, we

1213
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:53,680
know they're there, But I.

1214
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 6: Do wonder if they're gathering data on all of the sightings.

1215
01:13:57,279 --> 01:14:00,800
You know, how often they visit the bfr O. Do

1216
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:05,640
they listen to podcasts? You know what I mean? Do

1217
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,680
they listen to Linda Eastbourn. I would think they would

1218
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,199
be on your show every week.

1219
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I've done five hundred or so interviews

1220
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,960
on Bigfoot so far, and when I was doing that,

1221
01:14:18,119 --> 01:14:20,720
but this is the difference when I was doing the UFO,

1222
01:14:22,399 --> 01:14:24,800
when we did the research group as well as when

1223
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,159
I was doing the hypnosis. This was a weird thing.

1224
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,279
People started showing up, and I wouldn't say they were

1225
01:14:30,359 --> 01:14:33,000
government people, but they started showing up and weird things

1226
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:37,600
started happening. My phone was bugged, my whole family started

1227
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:41,880
getting hang up calls as well as I did. This

1228
01:14:42,039 --> 01:14:44,720
is whenever I was doing the hypnosis with people who

1229
01:14:45,119 --> 01:14:48,760
had abductions, you know, and it stopped. You know, I

1230
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,800
wasn't doing that as much, but they've never been interested

1231
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,800
in the Bigfoot thing. You know, no one's no one's

1232
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,720
showing up at my door for that. But but before,

1233
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:58,880
when I was doing the UFO stuff, there seemed to

1234
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:03,119
be an effort to discourage me from you know, moving

1235
01:15:03,199 --> 01:15:06,560
forward and doing it. It didn't discourage me, but it

1236
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,760
was odd stuff. There were just really odd things happening

1237
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,359
in my world at that time. That seemed as if

1238
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:17,000
there was intention to deter me from doing the hypnosis

1239
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,640
stuff with people it'd had deductions. I'm not sure what

1240
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:23,720
it would accomplish, but they were definitely present in my world.

1241
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,399
Speaker 6: So you really did feel like they were just somebody

1242
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:32,600
was watching, harassing, yeah, trying to get you to stop

1243
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:33,640
doing what you were doing.

1244
01:15:34,319 --> 01:15:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was subtle. I mean one morning the phone

1245
01:15:38,319 --> 01:15:41,560
my mother called, she hung up. I hear something. I

1246
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,600
hung on and it was obvious. I could hear something

1247
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:48,479
moving in a distant you know kind of office or something.

1248
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,239
Could hear footsteps. I could hear a drawer open. I

1249
01:15:51,279 --> 01:15:53,000
could hear all these things for about ten minutes. And

1250
01:15:53,039 --> 01:15:55,399
there was This was back in the eighties or late eighties,

1251
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:59,000
early nineties, so you know, we didn't have digital stuff

1252
01:15:59,039 --> 01:16:01,800
back then. There was the old tape recorders would do

1253
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,600
a click when it turned, you know, click cleek.

1254
01:16:05,119 --> 01:16:05,319
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1255
01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:08,279
Speaker 1: So I could hear that the whole time, and it

1256
01:16:08,359 --> 01:16:10,000
was about ten minutes or so. I could hear that

1257
01:16:10,199 --> 01:16:12,399
the whole time, and then suddenly there was a big

1258
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,199
and it stopped. That night was our move On meeting,

1259
01:16:15,319 --> 01:16:18,239
and I went to the moove On meeting. They showed

1260
01:16:18,279 --> 01:16:20,760
a video and in the video it was it was

1261
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,079
Wendell Stevens doing a documentary down in Georgia somewhere, and

1262
01:16:24,199 --> 01:16:26,560
he said that night they had the whole crew, each

1263
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,239
you know, with their own individual motel.

1264
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 6: He was he was one of the original whistleblowers, because

1265
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:40,239
didn't he say that he had re filmed UFOs with

1266
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:44,319
his camera gun on his he was wasn't he a pilot?

1267
01:16:45,359 --> 01:16:50,119
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure about Wendell's personal research, So yeah, yeah,

1268
01:16:50,199 --> 01:16:53,680
this was just this was just a video that they

1269
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,119
were showing that of him. But all of these people

1270
01:16:56,159 --> 01:17:00,039
had motel rooms, and that night they they had I

1271
01:17:00,159 --> 01:17:03,560
had hang up calls started two fifteen, three one fifteen,

1272
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,720
two fifteen, three fifteen, all the way through the night.

1273
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,439
And the next day they went down and nothing had

1274
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:12,239
gone through the switchboard downstairs, no calls had gone through there. Well,

1275
01:17:12,279 --> 01:17:14,159
that night I went home and this is the same night,

1276
01:17:14,359 --> 01:17:16,520
This is the same night that that morning I'd had

1277
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,000
the phone call that I could hear the tape recorder

1278
01:17:19,079 --> 01:17:21,960
and all that, and went to sleep, and you know,

1279
01:17:22,159 --> 01:17:25,279
twelve fifteen, I'd get a hang up call one fifteen,

1280
01:17:25,319 --> 01:17:28,199
two fifteen, So you know, someone was at that meeting

1281
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,119
that night, someone knew that they had you know, my

1282
01:17:31,199 --> 01:17:34,000
phone was bug that morning, and someone was letting me know,

1283
01:17:34,279 --> 01:17:36,199
you know that that they were doing the same thing

1284
01:17:36,239 --> 01:17:38,039
to me that happened in the video. It was that

1285
01:17:38,239 --> 01:17:41,039
sort of thing, that kind of repetition thing that that

1286
01:17:41,079 --> 01:17:44,399
would happen, and then people would call and say they

1287
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,319
didn't call. They call them back. It was a government office.

1288
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:49,399
You know, I say, Okay, what's going on. You know,

1289
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,840
I'm not doing anything other than regression work with these

1290
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,279
people and certainly not getting any kind of information that

1291
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:59,279
seemed vital to anything, so that it was just weird.

1292
01:18:00,039 --> 01:18:02,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, it definitely sounds like they were hassling you.

1293
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.

1294
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,159
Speaker 6: This has happened twice when I talked to my daughter

1295
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,600
on the phone. When we talk about UFOs, we will

1296
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:19,319
hear this conversation is being recorded, will come across. And

1297
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,760
me and Adam did a thing where we tried to

1298
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,399
simulate what it would take to do that, because I

1299
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,800
know the phones have that capability now, but it's quite

1300
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:32,520
a process to get that to happen. And then when

1301
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,720
we would talk about family stuff, it would end, we'd

1302
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,000
hear a little beep and it would end, and then

1303
01:18:38,039 --> 01:18:40,800
when we started talking about UFOs, it would start again.

1304
01:18:41,159 --> 01:18:45,000
But that happened on two different nights. It's just, yeah,

1305
01:18:45,159 --> 01:18:48,359
it's like coincidence. I don't know, it's kind of hot.

1306
01:18:48,399 --> 01:18:50,319
It freaked her out more than me, even.

1307
01:18:54,039 --> 01:18:54,520
Speaker 8: A little bit.

1308
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 6: But yeah, you just kind of wonder. And some people

1309
01:19:00,199 --> 01:19:01,920
joined a little bit late and they want to know

1310
01:19:02,039 --> 01:19:05,640
whether you've ever hypnotized a big Foot witness, and the

1311
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,000
answer is not yet.

1312
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,359
Speaker 1: I'm happy to. I would love to do.

1313
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 6: She wants to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And so I'm going

1314
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:18,359
to in fact, doctor Linda at some point here soon

1315
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:22,479
about maybe doing that. Yeah, flying up here and getting

1316
01:19:23,159 --> 01:19:25,800
I don't know. It takes time because you have to

1317
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:27,359
kind of I know, you have to do a lot

1318
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:31,640
of prep work with them. You just don't, you know,

1319
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,359
grab somebody and lay them down and hypnotize them. It

1320
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:35,279
doesn't work that way.

1321
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have to feel comfortable with you, and they

1322
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,760
have to they have to personally. A lot of people

1323
01:19:42,079 --> 01:19:45,239
think that the hypnotists actually causes that to happen. It's

1324
01:19:45,239 --> 01:19:49,199
actually the person's willingness to follow the suggestions, and if

1325
01:19:49,239 --> 01:19:51,960
they feel uncomfortable in any ways, it's difficult for them

1326
01:19:52,039 --> 01:19:54,640
to drop down into those Alvin wings.

1327
01:19:55,199 --> 01:20:00,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, the hypnotist we had, her name is true May.

1328
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:04,640
She spent a long time with each witness. It was

1329
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:09,039
quite a long process, and there was even concerns like

1330
01:20:09,159 --> 01:20:12,960
they don't want to like do anything to create any

1331
01:20:14,039 --> 01:20:17,720
post traumatic stress on somebody, and on and on. I mean,

1332
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,800
it was amazing. I didn't know. It was kind of

1333
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,600
an education for me. But the results, I will say,

1334
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:34,079
we're spectacular. They were surprising anyhow, So do you feel

1335
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:42,680
that bigfoot is have some kind of relationship of some

1336
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:47,119
sort with UAPs or do you think they're two separate things.

1337
01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:50,319
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, but I can tell you the

1338
01:20:50,399 --> 01:20:52,359
information that I do have. You know, some of the

1339
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,680
military remote viewers, they remote viewed a lot of you

1340
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,039
post stuff, and they remote viewed a lot of planets,

1341
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:02,159
and they saw one planet and they describe the entities

1342
01:21:02,199 --> 01:21:06,319
that occupied this planet as looking like Bigfoot. So there's that.

1343
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,039
The other thing is, you know, about fifty percent of

1344
01:21:10,119 --> 01:21:12,920
the people that I interview, out of maybe five hundred

1345
01:21:13,039 --> 01:21:16,279
or so interviews that I've done, have had some form

1346
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:20,399
of a UFO encounter as well as a bigfoot en country.

1347
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,560
That could be just because they're able to perceive things

1348
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:25,439
like you, you know that they're able to see a

1349
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,520
UFO that I can also see a Bigfoot. They're just

1350
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:31,720
have more perceptive in that regard. I don't know, So,

1351
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,760
you know, it could be that there's some relationship there,

1352
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,600
but there's definitely a relationship in how they behave in

1353
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:41,199
that you know, bigfoot seems to be able to disappear

1354
01:21:41,399 --> 01:21:44,039
and aliens seem to be able to just appear and disappear.

1355
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:49,359
Those are likenesses that they both seem to have. So

1356
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,600
that's the correlation. I would put in that the experiences

1357
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,760
seem to be somewhat related in that way.

1358
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,560
Speaker 6: The weirdness, I mean, I hear the weirdness all the time,

1359
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,560
I personally haven't experienced a ton of weirdness. I've seen

1360
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:10,680
orbs and bigfoot areas and you know, but I've never

1361
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:16,039
really been like, you know, big bigfoots for sure, you know, supernatural.

1362
01:22:16,159 --> 01:22:20,239
But Adam, we're doing a research project project and Adam

1363
01:22:20,359 --> 01:22:24,199
was staying at a remote home and he was alone,

1364
01:22:24,279 --> 01:22:28,960
and during that night the home got pounded on. He said,

1365
01:22:29,239 --> 01:22:32,319
it was insane. It was like the house was a

1366
01:22:32,399 --> 01:22:37,560
bass drum. It was pounded violently. It was loud. And

1367
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:41,920
yet we had a recorder on outside because he was

1368
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,039
going to set up a bunch of cameras the next day,

1369
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:49,880
and there was nothing recorded, Linda. And yet you can

1370
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,279
hear him putting it out, you can hear him picking

1371
01:22:52,319 --> 01:22:56,560
it up and that. But on the side of the

1372
01:22:56,720 --> 01:23:02,319
home damage on brand new sighting was all pounded in

1373
01:23:03,159 --> 01:23:08,119
fifteen foot up, so it doesn't like he imagined it right, right,

1374
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:14,039
but it didn't record. Now, normally, you know, audio does

1375
01:23:14,199 --> 01:23:19,119
really good job recording, but that night nothing was and

1376
01:23:19,319 --> 01:23:22,199
so it's a it's a it's a real mystery, especially

1377
01:23:22,319 --> 01:23:26,239
doing you know, an audio expert like that, he's really confused.

1378
01:23:27,239 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 1: Well, you know, that's that's true of like people who

1379
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,039
would put up cameras in their bedroom because they felt

1380
01:23:32,079 --> 01:23:34,319
like they were going to be abducted or you know,

1381
01:23:34,399 --> 01:23:37,359
and the cameras would just go off during that period

1382
01:23:37,399 --> 01:23:40,479
of time. They just didn't didn't work. I did a

1383
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,279
research trip to Puerto Rico once and took me lots

1384
01:23:43,279 --> 01:23:46,319
of a camera equipment that we were all we're kind

1385
01:23:46,359 --> 01:23:48,960
of in remote areas, you know, not closed to any place,

1386
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,720
and all my batteries were drained. You know, it's like

1387
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,680
we couldn't couldn't do anything. So there's some kind of

1388
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,359
interference sometimes with electronic equipment, both with the UFOs, and

1389
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:01,760
it does seem to be true also at times around Bigfoot.

1390
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's just it's a crazy mystery, right,

1391
01:24:08,199 --> 01:24:10,439
it is. And I'd be the last guy to say

1392
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:13,399
I know anything I've been researching going on. It's getting

1393
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,880
close to forty years, and I've been made a fool

1394
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:22,079
of for forty years, and so that alone is kind

1395
01:24:22,119 --> 01:24:24,800
of paranormal in some ways, if you think about it.

1396
01:24:26,359 --> 01:24:29,199
They seem to always find a way no matter what

1397
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:34,279
we do, what we try. We were up at so growth.

1398
01:24:34,359 --> 01:24:38,199
We had cameras really low and camouflaged, and we'd spent

1399
01:24:38,279 --> 01:24:42,319
the whole day putting like moss and all sorts of things,

1400
01:24:42,359 --> 01:24:44,720
and these little tiny cameras, and we hit them all low.

1401
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:50,880
That night, a rock hits one of the cameras and

1402
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,239
then I hear it live and then we were all quiet.

1403
01:24:54,399 --> 01:24:59,560
Another rockets another camera. Another rockets another camera, and we're

1404
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,840
actually experiencing that now at this news site, getting a

1405
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,840
lot of rock throws that are you know, hitting right

1406
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:11,640
near the camera or the camera itself. And yeah, we

1407
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:14,840
still haven't gotten our you know, our subject, you know

1408
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:19,520
what I mean. It's just it's like, how smart can

1409
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:19,840
they be?

1410
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: So what do you think of the same thing with

1411
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,800
the same thing with UFOs? I mean, you know, it's

1412
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,199
just really impossible to get a picture of an alien.

1413
01:25:28,319 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 8: You know.

1414
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 1: It seems like just they don't happen.

1415
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I personally don't think there's any authentic pictures or

1416
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,239
video of aliens. Maybe there is, but I just I

1417
01:25:37,319 --> 01:25:39,600
look at that stuff and I go, that's a puppet

1418
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:44,159
or you know, that's that's animation or whatever. I just

1419
01:25:44,279 --> 01:25:48,199
haven't seen anything that was convincing. Like if you remember

1420
01:25:48,279 --> 01:25:54,000
the Alien Autopsy show, and what do you think of that?

1421
01:25:54,119 --> 01:25:58,119
I mean, I thought it was just amazingly fake, But

1422
01:25:58,439 --> 01:25:59,279
maybe it isn't, you.

1423
01:25:59,319 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 9: Know what I mean.

1424
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,600
Speaker 1: It's hard to say, but I kind of had that

1425
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,680
same impression. I just really didn't think that that was

1426
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:06,600
probably authentic.

1427
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:12,079
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so I don't know. This mystery is just baffling.

1428
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:15,319
But yet I don't ever want to give up, because

1429
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,720
that's I mean, you're never going to get anything if

1430
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:20,000
you give up, right.

1431
01:26:21,319 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 9: Well, we're not going to ever turn our curiosity off.

1432
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:24,359
We're curious people.

1433
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:30,079
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, Do you think your curiosity, Linda has led

1434
01:26:30,159 --> 01:26:33,840
to a lot of you know, friendships and learning and

1435
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,399
like just completely enhanced your life.

1436
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,159
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just love it. I like the mystery,

1437
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:43,920
you know, and it's an ongoing mystery, and it's it's

1438
01:26:44,079 --> 01:26:46,279
you know, with every person you talk to, there's another

1439
01:26:46,359 --> 01:26:52,399
little niche of information. So yeah, it's it's it's very fascinating.

1440
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,439
I think it's more just my personality, you know. I

1441
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,800
just I enjoyed the search, and like I've told some

1442
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,239
of my guests, I said, you know, if we do

1443
01:26:59,359 --> 01:27:00,920
find a big foo, you know what's going to happen.

1444
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:02,520
We're all going to be disappointed because we won't have

1445
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,680
a reason to get on these shows anymore. It's gonna

1446
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:10,479
be found. So I think the mysteries might drives everyone.

1447
01:27:12,159 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like you know, like somebody's saying, respectfully so that

1448
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:19,560
he won't trick a spirit creature. He could be absolutely right.

1449
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:23,039
I don't know, But I also don't see the harm

1450
01:27:23,119 --> 01:27:26,880
in trying to trick a spirit creature, you know, because

1451
01:27:27,119 --> 01:27:31,720
I don't think anything is perfect. I don't training creature

1452
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,239
is perfect. They're all got faults, and maybe one day

1453
01:27:35,399 --> 01:27:38,840
they're gonna go, hey, you know what, I'm gonna get

1454
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,720
a high checked the best damn video ever because he's

1455
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:43,760
gonna do something good with it, you know what I mean.

1456
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:47,239
We you know, I just don't know what to I

1457
01:27:47,279 --> 01:27:50,000
don't know what to think about all of the times

1458
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:53,840
I've been fooled and tricked by these things. It's like

1459
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:58,279
the coyote chase and the road runner. I'm definitely uh,

1460
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:04,079
I'm definitely the coyote fail fail fail. Okay. Somebody had asked,

1461
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,920
it's it's kind of an interesting question. What is the

1462
01:28:08,119 --> 01:28:11,720
cemetery connection with cryptins? Have you ever thought about that? Linda?

1463
01:28:12,239 --> 01:28:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had an introduction to that actually before I

1464
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,479
got involved with Bigfoot that a friend of mine was

1465
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,960
a cryptid researcher and he was talking about all of

1466
01:28:22,079 --> 01:28:26,119
the all of you know, the correlation between these cemeteries

1467
01:28:26,279 --> 01:28:29,079
and some of the you know, the bigfoot dog man

1468
01:28:29,279 --> 01:28:32,399
that sort of thing. But also I used to have

1469
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,880
a radio show called Anomalies and Ted Phillips was my

1470
01:28:36,279 --> 01:28:39,119
my co host, and he knew Ted, Yeah, you knew Ted.

1471
01:28:39,279 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 6: He was the evidence. He was amazing.

1472
01:28:42,159 --> 01:28:45,159
Speaker 1: He was a hardcore evidence based guy. And you know

1473
01:28:45,199 --> 01:28:46,920
we did that show together for about a year.

1474
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 9: Wow.

1475
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,560
Speaker 1: And you know, he did the Marley Woods thing, you

1476
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:52,760
know that that all of the research thats to going

1477
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:56,199
on there at Marley Woods, and he described something that

1478
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,600
that was you know, Bigfoot was there. You know, they

1479
01:29:00,039 --> 01:29:02,479
they saw a bigfoot going into a frozen on a

1480
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,359
frozen lake and then it just disappeared, you know, and

1481
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:07,800
the footprints went on the lake and then it just

1482
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:11,439
stopped in midstream. So but he talked a lot about

1483
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:13,800
you know, there was a UFO activity there for sure.

1484
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,439
There was a lot of bizarre light flashes and you know,

1485
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:19,960
radiation and things like that also on that that property

1486
01:29:20,039 --> 01:29:22,600
he was researching. But he also talked about, you know,

1487
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:27,159
the bigfoot correlation with with the cemetery. There was a

1488
01:29:27,199 --> 01:29:30,399
cemetery on that property that they were that they were researching,

1489
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:35,680
I believe, and there was this line of skinwalkers, dog

1490
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:37,880
man whatever they were. They looked like dogs, but there

1491
01:29:38,039 --> 01:29:41,239
was a line of them in a row walking upward

1492
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,760
this hill towards the cemetery on that property. I just

1493
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:49,159
thought that was the most interesting, you know, fascinating visual,

1494
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:52,000
you know that they got they different things would happen.

1495
01:29:52,039 --> 01:29:54,039
He would go out there and stay at the property

1496
01:29:54,119 --> 01:29:56,960
and just at a little cabin and just the most

1497
01:29:57,039 --> 01:30:01,520
bizarre things would happen. But yeah, there was a cemetery there,

1498
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,039
and there was all this weirdness around the cemetery too.

1499
01:30:06,159 --> 01:30:10,199
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's been too many to kind of just write

1500
01:30:10,239 --> 01:30:14,079
them off as coincidence. And then of course I've thought, well,

1501
01:30:14,199 --> 01:30:18,000
cemeteries are usually kind of wooded around there because people

1502
01:30:18,079 --> 01:30:20,600
don't necessarily want to live next to a cemetery, and

1503
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:25,199
that's that's a possibility. But man, the there's so many

1504
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:30,800
stories they're just hard to ignore. Well, of all the cryptids,

1505
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:32,880
is there any of them that you think is just bs?

1506
01:30:34,239 --> 01:30:36,199
Do you have any bs and you at all into

1507
01:30:36,399 --> 01:30:37,560
or yeah? Pretty much.

1508
01:30:38,159 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm pretty open minded because you know, I don't if

1509
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,039
I don't have proof that they don't exist, then I

1510
01:30:43,239 --> 01:30:46,279
give all possibilities that they could exist. I guess these

1511
01:30:46,399 --> 01:30:49,199
flying things, you know, like butt them offman kind of thing.

1512
01:30:49,279 --> 01:30:52,439
You know that that's where things probably least believable to me,

1513
01:30:53,079 --> 01:30:56,000
not that they can't exist, but I've heard of some

1514
01:30:56,279 --> 01:30:59,840
that are just gigantic, And I'm thinking, you know that

1515
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,960
it's not that they can't hide somewhere. Maybe they do

1516
01:31:03,199 --> 01:31:04,600
just come in and out of our reality.

1517
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 6: I don't know those we would have to. Yeah, I

1518
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,279
used to think exactly like you did. It's got to

1519
01:31:11,319 --> 01:31:14,520
be bs. And then me and Event are driving south

1520
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:19,439
and thirty five W were approaching Moose Lake area and

1521
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:22,119
it's a clear night and we see a shiny thing

1522
01:31:22,239 --> 01:31:26,079
up by the moon and it dropped straight down and

1523
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:30,199
almost level with the road, just dropped like a spider

1524
01:31:30,279 --> 01:31:33,239
on a web. Just suddenly just stopped and headed right

1525
01:31:33,319 --> 01:31:36,359
for my windshield. And it got closer, and we didn't

1526
01:31:36,359 --> 01:31:39,079
know what we were looking at. And then it's it got,

1527
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:42,199
you know, close enough where the headlights lit it up.

1528
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,439
We could see it was like a humanoid with wings

1529
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:49,800
like bat wings, wider than the freeway, and then it

1530
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:51,960
just zoomed over the top of the car. She hit

1531
01:31:52,039 --> 01:31:55,000
the ground, you know, hit ducked, I guess. Then I

1532
01:31:55,159 --> 01:31:57,960
finally ducked too, because I thought it was coming through

1533
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:01,840
the windshield. And then you're like, what the hell was that.

1534
01:32:03,359 --> 01:32:06,079
Speaker 1: I had interviewed someone just the other day that described

1535
01:32:06,119 --> 01:32:08,600
something exactly like that that happened to them.

1536
01:32:09,119 --> 01:32:12,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, same thing that swooped. Do you want to tell

1537
01:32:12,199 --> 01:32:13,359
us about it real quickly?

1538
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 1: That was pretty much it, because some people all think

1539
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,560
I'm nuts. Yeah, it was an area that they had

1540
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:22,800
seen a bigfoot in that same vicinity as a country road.

1541
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:24,960
You know, they were young, they were teenagers, I think,

1542
01:32:25,039 --> 01:32:26,840
and they were just driving out in the country and

1543
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:31,279
they've seen a bigfoot some maybe year or two before,

1544
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,000
and they're driving there's five of.

1545
01:32:33,039 --> 01:32:33,600
Speaker 6: Them in the car.

1546
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 1: They all saw it. It's this winged creature. It comes

1547
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:38,960
flying right at their car, and they saw the face

1548
01:32:39,159 --> 01:32:43,399
up close. It had kind of a stretched dark mouth,

1549
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:46,119
but it looked like a man, but wings were at

1550
01:32:46,159 --> 01:32:49,079
least at least five six feet apart, and it came

1551
01:32:49,199 --> 01:32:51,359
right at their windshield and they went over top of

1552
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,159
the car. And that one startled all of them. The

1553
01:32:54,239 --> 01:32:58,720
bigfoot didn't didn't frighten the driver, the one I was interviewing.

1554
01:32:59,079 --> 01:33:01,840
But this thing, I mean, it was a very very

1555
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,199
scary thing. Now this is another thing though in that

1556
01:33:04,319 --> 01:33:08,560
same area. This was really weird because time loss seems

1557
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:13,199
to also be correlated with some bigfoot researchers as well

1558
01:33:13,359 --> 01:33:16,960
as UFO experiencers. But later on the same guy was

1559
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:19,319
out there on this road and there was a burnout

1560
01:33:19,399 --> 01:33:21,760
car close to the river, and he just drove on down.

1561
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:24,479
He was gone maybe twenty minutes, and came back. When

1562
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:27,239
it came back, the car was completely gone. But also

1563
01:33:27,359 --> 01:33:31,560
that burn section of the road was no longer burnt.

1564
01:33:32,039 --> 01:33:34,600
So he went home and he was telling his parents,

1565
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:36,279
and he was a teenager, so he went home and

1566
01:33:36,359 --> 01:33:38,760
told his parents about the car and his DEAs said

1567
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:41,800
that was really odd because he remembered back like in

1568
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:45,720
the fifties or something like that, there was a murder

1569
01:33:46,239 --> 01:33:49,439
I think, and they took in a car that was

1570
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:52,600
parked right at that same spot and they had burned

1571
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:55,399
the car to get rid of the body in it,

1572
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:57,640
I believe, is what they said. And it was the

1573
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:01,680
exact same plus place. So it was like he he

1574
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:03,960
kind of wondered if he had had a time slip,

1575
01:34:04,159 --> 01:34:07,119
maybe he saw something that wasn't even there in the past,

1576
01:34:07,399 --> 01:34:09,279
since when it came back by, it wasn't even the

1577
01:34:09,359 --> 01:34:10,199
ground wasn't burnt.

1578
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:17,560
Speaker 6: Wow, that's a that's kind of nutty. Yeah, somebody has

1579
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:22,119
something really Oh have you ever heard of any like

1580
01:34:22,199 --> 01:34:26,199
a UFO witness that ever heard any kind of humming

1581
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:31,319
or any kind of infrasound kind of sound, you know, sounds.

1582
01:34:31,399 --> 01:34:36,399
I guess I took a report literally yesterday, and they

1583
01:34:36,399 --> 01:34:40,359
didn't know anything about me and David Ellis's hum study

1584
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:45,800
because people keep recording these weird kind of like sounds,

1585
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:52,319
like kind of overdriven hummingbird wings in association with bigfoot sightings. Okay,

1586
01:34:53,319 --> 01:34:53,760
I haven't.

1587
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,359
Speaker 1: I haven't heard of that with bigfoot sightings necessarily, I

1588
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,359
have a little bit with the UFO. Yeah, well answers,

1589
01:34:59,399 --> 01:35:03,279
but not necessarily the Bigfoot. What I hear with Bigfoot

1590
01:35:03,399 --> 01:35:08,000
is more like these very unusual sounds of machinery. It's

1591
01:35:08,079 --> 01:35:10,199
like big machinery, but it's you know, if they're in

1592
01:35:10,279 --> 01:35:14,159
a place that there can't be any big machinery around. Okay, Yeah,

1593
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:16,720
so I hear more that sound than a humor.

1594
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:18,359
Speaker 6: Mechanical mechanical sound.

1595
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:20,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, mechanical sound, right exactly.

1596
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1597
01:35:21,279 --> 01:35:24,079
Speaker 6: Door slams are things that sound like a door slam.

1598
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 1: Interesting thing I heard the other day was the wood

1599
01:35:28,079 --> 01:35:32,239
knocks that these people had. They they had an electromagnetic

1600
01:35:32,319 --> 01:35:36,800
field detector out with them doing Bigfoot research, and every

1601
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:38,960
time they hear a wood knock, this thing would spike.

1602
01:35:39,239 --> 01:35:42,800
It's like, why would an electromagnetic field detector spike with

1603
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:45,000
a wood knock? That doesn't make any sense at all.

1604
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:48,000
But of course with u FO researchers, I do know.

1605
01:35:48,279 --> 01:35:51,119
They often will take these out to sites where there's

1606
01:35:51,159 --> 01:35:56,199
been some kind of alien interaction, and oftentimes the very

1607
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:59,840
place where that would occur, there would be a spike

1608
01:36:00,199 --> 01:36:03,520
also in the electromagnetic field detector. So those are also

1609
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:06,199
correlations that you wonder Okay, what is this and why?

1610
01:36:07,399 --> 01:36:11,239
Speaker 6: Well, what kind of sounds of UFO people reported? Can

1611
01:36:11,319 --> 01:36:12,840
you remember any of those?

1612
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 1: I remember a researcher that went to South America somewhere

1613
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:22,399
and there were people that had constant aliens coming into

1614
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:27,720
their home. And when they ask where, a man had

1615
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,000
already gone through the house and you know, they were

1616
01:36:30,199 --> 01:36:31,960
having an interview in one room with the people, and

1617
01:36:32,079 --> 01:36:34,600
this guy was going through the house with his electromatic

1618
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:37,319
field detector and he found the spot in the dining

1619
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:41,159
area and the floor that was just spiking off the wall.

1620
01:36:41,319 --> 01:36:45,319
It was just huge amounts of radiation come from there.

1621
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:49,159
And the people when they were ask you know, in

1622
01:36:49,239 --> 01:36:51,119
the interview in the other room, they ask, okay, so

1623
01:36:51,279 --> 01:36:53,640
where do they come into the house, and they went

1624
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,720
into the dining room. It was a very same location.

1625
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:58,039
So it does seem like maybe there's some form of

1626
01:36:58,079 --> 01:37:03,720
a correlation there between between you know, the electromagnetic spikes

1627
01:37:04,239 --> 01:37:07,920
and these aliens or Bigfoot or whatever coming and going

1628
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:08,840
from our reality.

1629
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:18,199
Speaker 6: Interesting, what about dead batteries and I mean just just

1630
01:37:18,399 --> 01:37:24,399
the batteries and electrical failures. One of our encounters cost

1631
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:26,720
me about ten grand because it burned out all of

1632
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:30,319
our low voltage in the home. All of it burned out.

1633
01:37:30,399 --> 01:37:34,960
Even all the HDMI ports on the TVs were burned out. Well,

1634
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:36,920
you can't use a TV. We don't have any way

1635
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:40,399
to plug in anything and antenna or cable, so we

1636
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:44,119
had to get all new TVs. It burned out our

1637
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:49,439
vacuum system, our alarm system, it burned out my electric

1638
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:54,279
boat controller. My phone was a brand new iPhone, was

1639
01:37:54,399 --> 01:37:58,920
completely toasted when I tried to film these things, and

1640
01:37:59,159 --> 01:38:02,720
so that was really an expensive encounter.

1641
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,600
Speaker 1: It would be. You know, I haven't. I haven't had

1642
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:08,880
that personal experience, but I've heard a lot of people

1643
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:12,680
who have. When we filmed by Ways of Bigfoot, we

1644
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:19,399
had no problems whatsoever. When when I did the UFO research, however,

1645
01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:22,359
sometimes the batteries would drain. That was it didn't tear

1646
01:38:22,399 --> 01:38:24,279
anything up, It was just the batteries would drain. We

1647
01:38:24,319 --> 01:38:25,359
couldn't film anything.

1648
01:38:27,279 --> 01:38:32,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, I wonder I've never I'm trying to think if

1649
01:38:32,279 --> 01:38:37,399
I've ever even encountered anything electrical with bigfoots. I haven't. Personally,

1650
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:41,880
my son has. He's had not a thermal but a

1651
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:46,159
night scope explode in his face when he was filming

1652
01:38:46,239 --> 01:38:52,600
a Bigfoot it just literally exploded, and he's had batteries

1653
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,640
go dead and that kind of thing. But I haven't,

1654
01:38:55,720 --> 01:39:00,279
but with UFOs I have, so I don't know. You

1655
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:02,760
just wonder how they're if they're doing it on purpose,

1656
01:39:03,359 --> 01:39:08,680
or if it's an accidental result of whatever they're putting out.

1657
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:13,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like to me, or it seems like

1658
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:16,520
to me that it would be. It's more of the

1659
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:18,720
essence of what you're dealing with there, you know, the

1660
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:22,159
reality that you're dealing with. We don't know how much

1661
01:39:22,359 --> 01:39:26,319
that interferes with with our sins. But you know, the

1662
01:39:26,399 --> 01:39:29,760
old reports for some since I knew Ted Phillips so well,

1663
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:33,319
and he did so many UFO reports in the old days,

1664
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,760
back in the fifties sixties, you know a lot of

1665
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:40,439
people would report seeing a craft on the road or

1666
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:44,239
the side of the road and they would get radiation burn. Now,

1667
01:39:44,399 --> 01:39:46,680
I haven't heard of a radiation burn for quite a while.

1668
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:49,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right, Yeah, it's been a while. Do you

1669
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:53,880
remember the Vel Johnson case where the guy had even

1670
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:57,399
his eyes were burnt. That was the sheriff up in

1671
01:39:58,359 --> 01:40:02,119
It was war Road, Minnesota that saw bright light at

1672
01:40:02,159 --> 01:40:04,600
the end of a road. It was like an orb

1673
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:06,720
and he kind of headed his car because he thought

1674
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:10,720
maybe it's a drug plane landing on this deserted, dead

1675
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:12,960
end road, and so he goes towards it, and the

1676
01:40:13,079 --> 01:40:17,560
thing comes towards him really quick breaks, the windshield cracks,

1677
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:21,840
the windshield bends, is spring loaded antennas at a right angle,

1678
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:27,000
gives him welding burns on his eyes. And then there's

1679
01:40:27,079 --> 01:40:34,279
that very famous case of the two ladies I cannot

1680
01:40:34,319 --> 01:40:38,399
think of their name. They had their son with that

1681
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:43,239
was Landrum, the Landroum case, the Vicky Landrum case, where

1682
01:40:43,239 --> 01:40:48,159
they were both had severe radiation burns. I don't even

1683
01:40:48,239 --> 01:40:53,600
remember what state that was in, somewhere down south. But

1684
01:40:54,119 --> 01:40:58,279
they suit the government because you know, they had all

1685
01:40:58,319 --> 01:41:01,920
these health problems and they and they had they had

1686
01:41:02,039 --> 01:41:07,000
seen military helicopters kind of hovering above this UFO that

1687
01:41:07,119 --> 01:41:10,479
looked like it was in trouble, and so they made

1688
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:14,760
the dot connection that, okay, the US militaries hiding secrets.

1689
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:19,239
And it's the first lawsuit that was ever fired. Of course,

1690
01:41:19,279 --> 01:41:24,399
they lost the lawsuit in East Texas. Oh, East Texas, Yeah,

1691
01:41:24,399 --> 01:41:28,399
I know, it's south. That's the Landroom case. Look it up, people,

1692
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:33,399
it's really crazy. Yeah, And I mean they recall things

1693
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:36,600
like they touched the door handle and fried their hand,

1694
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:40,560
and somebody had left their handprint and the dash because

1695
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:44,439
a dashboard was so hot. But yeah, you're right, and

1696
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:48,520
we don't hear much about that anymore. You kind of

1697
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:56,880
wonder why are are uh their technology improving? Is that

1698
01:41:57,039 --> 01:42:00,439
even I don't know, it sounds crazy or maybe they

1699
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:05,279
didn't realize it hurt us at that time. Yeah, it's true,

1700
01:42:05,319 --> 01:42:08,159
maybe they learned that. Who knows the Travis Walton he

1701
01:42:08,359 --> 01:42:13,399
was injured. Do you think that missing people or have

1702
01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:16,600
anything to do with cryptids or do you think it's

1703
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:21,159
some other UFOs or just natural causes.

1704
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:26,920
Speaker 1: I lean more toward just natural things with that, rather

1705
01:42:27,039 --> 01:42:29,520
than to be an abduction of some sort. I mean,

1706
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:34,279
I suppose a really you know, hungry bigfoot could capture

1707
01:42:34,319 --> 01:42:37,439
a human or take a human for whatever purpose. And

1708
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:43,199
but aliens don't seem to keep them, they return them.

1709
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:46,399
So I haven't heard of anyone just going missing that

1710
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:47,520
that's related to an.

1711
01:42:47,399 --> 01:42:49,319
Speaker 6: Alien right thatturned.

1712
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:52,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's also.

1713
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 6: But Linda, but if they're gone, how are we ever

1714
01:42:55,079 --> 01:42:55,520
gonna know?

1715
01:42:57,159 --> 01:42:58,560
Speaker 1: It's really impossible to know.

1716
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:02,279
Speaker 6: You just lost that. Yeah, how do we ever know

1717
01:43:02,399 --> 01:43:04,479
if they're just taking I can't.

1718
01:43:04,279 --> 01:43:06,039
Speaker 1: Tell you a really weird thing that happened when we

1719
01:43:06,119 --> 01:43:11,000
were filming intuitive journeys. However, they we you know, we had,

1720
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:12,840
we had, you have to make the show good. We

1721
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:14,960
were always honest with everything we put out there. But

1722
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:17,760
we're trying to make a good, decent show. So we

1723
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:19,760
were asking if there were any portals in the area,

1724
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:21,840
and one of the remote viewers saw an area, so

1725
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:24,319
we were going out there. But I realized that we

1726
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:27,199
probably wouldn't be able to film anything that would actually

1727
01:43:27,279 --> 01:43:29,159
show much of a portal out there. You know, we

1728
01:43:29,199 --> 01:43:31,079
were just going to go out there and film, So

1729
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:36,319
I was asking everyone prior to going if anything unusual

1730
01:43:36,399 --> 01:43:38,560
had happened that we could talk about before going out

1731
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:40,800
to film, at least, you know, spice up the show

1732
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:46,079
a little bit. And the cameraman, which normally wasn't wasn't there.

1733
01:43:46,199 --> 01:43:49,239
Normally the cameraman was was not filming when we were

1734
01:43:49,279 --> 01:43:51,399
at the house filming, but because you were doing this

1735
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:54,479
this journey that day to film, he was there with us.

1736
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:58,039
And suddenly the cameraman says, Oh, I have this really

1737
01:43:58,279 --> 01:44:00,880
weird circle in my backyard this morning. He shows a

1738
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:04,119
picture of it, and it was this strange round crop

1739
01:44:04,199 --> 01:44:06,920
circle looking thing. It was just a swirl that went down.

1740
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:11,640
So after after we went out to the site and

1741
01:44:12,119 --> 01:44:13,880
we had one wood knock and that was about it.

1742
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:16,399
We went to the hat his house and looked at it.

1743
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:21,119
We just happened to have a horticulturalist on the show

1744
01:44:21,199 --> 01:44:23,479
with us, so he understood that, and he also knew

1745
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:25,720
a lot about crop circles, so he was able to

1746
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:28,279
go look at the plants. They did have that expanded

1747
01:44:28,399 --> 01:44:31,000
node like there was a microwave blast or something that

1748
01:44:31,159 --> 01:44:31,800
went down.

1749
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:32,119
Speaker 6: In the yard.

1750
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:36,119
Speaker 1: And we did we did the seil test, we you know,

1751
01:44:36,319 --> 01:44:38,600
tried to We sent that off to the lab. You know,

1752
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:42,159
we had control samples as well as samples inside the

1753
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:44,960
crop circle to see the nodes that were actually you know,

1754
01:44:45,119 --> 01:44:48,960
heated and bent rather than just you know down because

1755
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:51,119
of wind or something like that. But this is the

1756
01:44:51,199 --> 01:44:53,720
real tailtale sign. His dog would always go out the

1757
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:56,960
back door right in that area. This thing butted right

1758
01:44:57,039 --> 01:44:59,479
up next to his back porch, and the dog would

1759
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:01,600
go out and always just go right through there. Well,

1760
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:05,159
the dog for months would go way around this circle.

1761
01:45:05,359 --> 01:45:09,520
So that was nothing too. There were no lecromagnetic field

1762
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:13,039
detections there. Compass didn't do anything odd. But it was

1763
01:45:13,199 --> 01:45:15,399
just a weird thing that there was a crop circle

1764
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:18,680
there that morning that we needed something odd to happen.

1765
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:29,039
Speaker 6: So, yeah, the exploded nodes, uh, obviously is a real thing.

1766
01:45:29,159 --> 01:45:33,119
I had that scientifically analyzed too when we did Monster

1767
01:45:33,319 --> 01:45:38,199
Quest in one episode. But you don't hear much about

1768
01:45:38,239 --> 01:45:42,039
crop circles. Again, this is kind of quiet. Yeah, And

1769
01:45:42,279 --> 01:45:44,600
I don't know if there's still happening. I would imagine

1770
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:44,920
they are.

1771
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:49,039
Speaker 1: We had an office building here in Springfield, Missouri that

1772
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:53,079
had a really weird crop circle form in the office,

1773
01:45:53,119 --> 01:45:56,840
in an office and the only way we knew about

1774
01:45:56,840 --> 01:46:00,880
it was explained explained there was a weird pattern that

1775
01:46:01,039 --> 01:46:05,439
suddenly formed in the carpet. It was like a weird, indented,

1776
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:08,399
strange cop circle like pattern. And they came to work

1777
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:10,640
that morning, they made all of them go out. They

1778
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:14,159
ripped up the carpet, immediately threw it away, the carpet.

1779
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:16,159
But she saw it and she said it was the

1780
01:46:16,239 --> 01:46:19,279
strangest thing. It was like, you know, it was just

1781
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,119
it was like one one office. It was a huge

1782
01:46:22,159 --> 01:46:24,760
office building, many stories tall. But it was just one

1783
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:27,640
area that that happened in, and it's like, how what

1784
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:29,680
would cause that in a carpet?

1785
01:46:30,039 --> 01:46:30,640
Speaker 6: Exactly.

1786
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird.

1787
01:46:32,279 --> 01:46:35,560
Speaker 6: That's really a weird story. The fact they ripped it up.

1788
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:37,800
Why would they do that if it didn't have so

1789
01:46:38,119 --> 01:46:41,279
was it like permanently you know, stained or.

1790
01:46:42,199 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was stained. It was more

1791
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:45,760
like a you know, it was like either something was

1792
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:49,039
cut or you know, intention of some sort. You know,

1793
01:46:49,119 --> 01:46:51,920
I don't know exactly how they you know, some sort

1794
01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:57,159
you know. Propsort was can formed anywhere. I snow, you know, grass,

1795
01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:00,720
you know, in multiple places, but I'd never heard of

1796
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:02,800
one in a building before like that.

1797
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:07,319
Speaker 6: Did Ted Phillips ever investigate? I know, he investigated circles,

1798
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:11,960
landing circles and imprints and soil. He did a lot

1799
01:47:12,039 --> 01:47:15,399
of soil testing and he had kind of proven then

1800
01:47:15,399 --> 01:47:19,560
a lot of the soil was hydrophobic or it would

1801
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:21,760
you know, just wouldn't observe water anymore.

1802
01:47:22,359 --> 01:47:25,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. That was more the UFO landing sites. So

1803
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:27,840
I don't know, I don't know if he did anything

1804
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:29,640
with crop circles or anything like that.

1805
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:33,279
Speaker 6: I don't recall him ever, doing that. He may have

1806
01:47:33,399 --> 01:47:37,399
never got a chance, but god, you're lucky to have

1807
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:39,720
known him. It's a really super nice guy.

1808
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was. He was an excellent, excellent person on

1809
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:44,239
the show.

1810
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:49,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, gosh, darn, Jeff. Do you have any questions here?

1811
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:54,119
Speaker 9: Yeah, Linda, Do you have what is your either favorite

1812
01:47:54,359 --> 01:47:58,079
or most notable abduction story that you've heard?

1813
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:02,199
Speaker 1: I like the Travis Wall story. He's just such a genuine,

1814
01:48:02,399 --> 01:48:04,600
down to earth guy. And you know what, over all

1815
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:07,239
of these years, his story hasn't changed a bit, and

1816
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:10,079
I think there's something very authentic about that. He doesn't

1817
01:48:10,159 --> 01:48:12,920
tend to exaggerate it. He tends to just, you know,

1818
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:14,680
always tell it like it is. If he doesn't know

1819
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:17,920
something he says that, he tends to not you know,

1820
01:48:19,199 --> 01:48:21,880
I've met him many times at conferences and things. No,

1821
01:48:22,279 --> 01:48:25,119
he just seems like a real genuine person to me.

1822
01:48:25,239 --> 01:48:26,520
So I just really like his story.

1823
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:29,600
Speaker 6: Well, you know, more than that, I got to know

1824
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:34,279
Mike Rogers, the guy driving the truck, and I don't

1825
01:48:34,319 --> 01:48:39,079
really think Mike, you know, he had an infrared Travis

1826
01:48:39,199 --> 01:48:41,800
a bit, probably because he had all the atta. I

1827
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:44,920
don't know the reason, but Mike would call me up

1828
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:48,680
on occasion we would talk and you know, Mike says

1829
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:52,319
that damn thing that happened, you know, I mean, he

1830
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:57,560
never once questioned anything Travis ever said, even though I

1831
01:48:57,680 --> 01:48:59,720
think he would have liked to, but he couldn't be

1832
01:49:00,119 --> 01:49:05,640
it was true. And I think Mike has passed now recently,

1833
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:09,680
not terribly long ago. But man, he I mean, you

1834
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:14,199
talk about a guy with emotions witnessing what they witnessed,

1835
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:17,520
because Travis really didn't wait, he just got zapped and

1836
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:21,920
went unconscious and they booked out of there. But to

1837
01:49:22,039 --> 01:49:26,279
talk to Mike, it's just, you know, it's it's absolutely

1838
01:49:26,359 --> 01:49:31,920
crazy to hear that first hand story. I've never I've

1839
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:34,319
talked to Travis on the phone, but I've never met

1840
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:35,000
him personally.

1841
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:39,199
Speaker 1: Nice guy. He's just a real down to earth person.

1842
01:49:39,399 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, so how long are you going to continue doing

1843
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:46,119
your show? You're just going to keep going.

1844
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:49,079
Speaker 1: Well, as long as I have an audience, I probably

1845
01:49:49,119 --> 01:49:51,880
keep going. You know, It's like Bigfoot wasn't my first

1846
01:49:52,359 --> 01:49:54,479
my very first thing. UFO's you know, all the other

1847
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:56,159
mysteries in life, and of course I do a lot

1848
01:49:56,199 --> 01:49:59,119
of psychic training and things like that, so those things

1849
01:49:59,199 --> 01:50:02,720
really fascinate me. But you know bigfoot. I've been drawn

1850
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:05,720
into it based mostly because my audience is such a

1851
01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:09,479
loyal audience and I really appreciate them, and I find

1852
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:12,560
that as I continue doing this, I actually find a

1853
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:16,319
lot of information about UFOs because as we talk about

1854
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:18,720
we hear all their their bigfoot stories, we get all

1855
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:21,880
their philosophy about bigfoot. I always ask the question, have

1856
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:24,520
you ever seen a UFO? And so then we go

1857
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:28,279
down that avenue to hear o their UFO stories, because

1858
01:50:28,359 --> 01:50:29,199
oftentimes they have.

1859
01:50:30,079 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, is there one or two amazing bigfoot stories that

1860
01:50:36,039 --> 01:50:36,800
you could relate?

1861
01:50:38,159 --> 01:50:38,319
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1862
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:42,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was one that that really stood out to me,

1863
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:44,880
and it was kind of a UFO slash bigfoot story.

1864
01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:49,079
This guy had had befriended I wouldn't say befriended, I

1865
01:50:49,119 --> 01:50:52,880
would say learned to They had tolerated one another in

1866
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:55,319
this area and he would often just go out walking

1867
01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:57,279
and you know, sometimes he would hear them, sometimes he

1868
01:50:57,319 --> 01:50:59,680
would see them or see evidence of them. And this

1869
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:03,199
one day he was walking through this this hilly area

1870
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:07,880
and there was a log across the road, and in

1871
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:11,680
his mind that always meant don't go there, Just don't

1872
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:15,319
go back tonight, Just don't don't enter. So he went home,

1873
01:51:15,359 --> 01:51:17,279
and of course what does he do. He calls of

1874
01:51:17,399 --> 01:51:19,239
his friend and his son, and they decide to go

1875
01:51:19,359 --> 01:51:21,560
out and sit on the hillside and just kind of

1876
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:24,119
observe and see what's what's going on. So they drive

1877
01:51:24,199 --> 01:51:27,119
out there, he parks, They climb up the hill. They

1878
01:51:27,279 --> 01:51:29,279
perched you in a place that they could see the valley,

1879
01:51:29,359 --> 01:51:32,279
and they're just, you know, they're just there. So they

1880
01:51:32,399 --> 01:51:35,680
see all of these this eye shine around the automobile

1881
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:39,680
that they left down below, and they assume that's you know,

1882
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:43,359
they foot naturally, so they're just just observing, you know,

1883
01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:46,479
all the eye shine. And then suddenly there is this

1884
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:52,039
huge ball of light that's coming from I think it

1885
01:51:52,119 --> 01:51:55,399
was from west to east and it shoots down into

1886
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:58,239
the valley and all of a sudden, they hear this

1887
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:02,359
commotion with all of the eye shine, turns around, they're

1888
01:52:02,399 --> 01:52:05,680
no longer facing them, and they run, all of them

1889
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:08,680
run straight down the hill to this ball of light

1890
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:12,479
in the in the bottom of the valley, and they're

1891
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:15,600
just in awe and they don't know, you know, was

1892
01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:18,079
that a planned situation and they were supposed to meet

1893
01:52:18,199 --> 01:52:21,239
up with this you know, wall of light or were

1894
01:52:21,239 --> 01:52:23,359
they just curious and ran down there because they wanted

1895
01:52:23,399 --> 01:52:25,119
to know what that was. That always stood out to

1896
01:52:25,199 --> 01:52:27,880
me just because of the drama of it all.

1897
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:37,600
Speaker 6: What about eyeshine versus eye glow? You know, eyes don't glow,

1898
01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:40,840
but yet so many people report it. Have you taken

1899
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:43,319
a lot of reports too about eyeglow?

1900
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've taken a lot of reports on the

1901
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:50,840
eye shine versus the eye glow. And oftentimes there's nothing

1902
01:52:51,119 --> 01:52:54,920
to be shining against. There's no light source. It's just

1903
01:52:55,359 --> 01:52:58,720
a glowing essence, you know, of light, and they're seeing pairs,

1904
01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:02,600
so they assume it's light. It's eyes, so you know.

1905
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:05,079
And then sometimes they think it is shine because they've

1906
01:53:05,079 --> 01:53:07,800
got a light that that's shining toward them, or moonlight

1907
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:10,439
or something like that. They think there might be some reflection.

1908
01:53:11,239 --> 01:53:13,119
Speaker 6: What what colors have you heard about?

1909
01:53:13,279 --> 01:53:19,439
Speaker 1: I mean green, yellow, amber, sometimes red, sometimes red. I

1910
01:53:19,560 --> 01:53:24,119
don't think i've heard anything. I don't think i've heard

1911
01:53:24,159 --> 01:53:30,199
blue at all. I think mostly amber, yellow, red mostly.

1912
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 6: It's it's like the most inconsistent part of bigfoot sightings

1913
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:39,760
is the eye color or the eye glow color. And

1914
01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:42,960
that's interesting and I've had people go, well, it depends

1915
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:46,359
on their emotions. You know, they change color if they're

1916
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:50,600
mad or if they're if they're happy or whatever. And

1917
01:53:51,399 --> 01:53:56,760
you know, once again we don't know, but it's so consistent,

1918
01:53:56,920 --> 01:54:01,279
the eye glow of the eye glow of the eye glow. Yeah. Crazy.

1919
01:54:01,319 --> 01:54:04,880
Speaker 1: Well, I remember I remember Ted Phillips talking about out

1920
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:08,079
of the Marley Woods where he was doing the research,

1921
01:54:08,159 --> 01:54:09,800
and they would have a lot of orbs out there,

1922
01:54:10,239 --> 01:54:13,119
and what they began to correlate was when they would

1923
01:54:13,159 --> 01:54:16,920
see these reddish colored orbs out there, they knew something

1924
01:54:17,079 --> 01:54:19,119
that was going to be really dangerous was probably coming

1925
01:54:19,199 --> 01:54:22,079
down the line, and there would be there would be light,

1926
01:54:22,159 --> 01:54:24,680
you know, shots of laser lights you know, coming out

1927
01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:26,760
of the sky and things like that, and nothing good

1928
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:29,279
was going to happen here. But if the lights were

1929
01:54:29,399 --> 01:54:34,520
white or just you know, yellowish color or amber or

1930
01:54:35,159 --> 01:54:37,159
you know, whatever color they were, if they were not

1931
01:54:37,439 --> 01:54:40,520
of that dark, dark red color, then it was going

1932
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:42,720
to be a gentle experience that night, like as if

1933
01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:45,399
the orbs was communicating that or something about the orbs

1934
01:54:45,439 --> 01:54:47,800
had that energy of whatever was going to take place

1935
01:54:48,239 --> 01:54:52,119
later on that day so our night. And I thought

1936
01:54:52,159 --> 01:54:54,000
that was an interesting correlation.

1937
01:54:56,159 --> 01:55:02,520
Speaker 6: Very interesting. What about ports of zapping. There's been several

1938
01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:07,319
people in the audience, including David Ellis, who's you know,

1939
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:12,800
had experiences with being zapp feeling extreme anxiety, feeling like

1940
01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:17,399
they need to leave the area immediately, being confused. I mean,

1941
01:55:17,479 --> 01:55:21,880
I've been with people that have been zapped, and then

1942
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:24,800
I've heard stories of good friends of mine that have

1943
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:29,960
been zapped, people who are like woodsmen, hunters, and they'll

1944
01:55:30,039 --> 01:55:33,520
get zapped and they're like walking in circles.

1945
01:55:35,239 --> 01:55:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard of that a lot, where they they

1946
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:42,880
may feel ill, or they may just feel disoriented for

1947
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:47,119
a time. Sometimes they even have missing time and yeah, yeah,

1948
01:55:47,279 --> 01:55:51,199
that happens like and they may feel fine and then

1949
01:55:51,319 --> 01:55:54,159
suddenly there's it just strikes them like they takes them

1950
01:55:54,199 --> 01:55:55,159
to their knees almost.

1951
01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah. How often do you get dougmen and people

1952
01:56:00,079 --> 01:56:03,600
on That's another weird cryptid that it is. I don't

1953
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:06,199
have any experience with. But what.

1954
01:56:08,399 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 1: I've done a few dog man I don't. I don't

1955
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:13,439
search those out because my audience is pretty much Bigfoot,

1956
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:16,560
you know, but I understand that the dog man is

1957
01:56:17,479 --> 01:56:22,239
is one of those cryptids that is definitely reported right

1958
01:56:22,319 --> 01:56:26,279
along with Bigfoot, and you know, ofttimes is and back

1959
01:56:26,319 --> 01:56:28,960
when we're doing intuitive journeys. Actually, we had a gentleman

1960
01:56:29,039 --> 01:56:33,159
on that was a dog man researcher, and it opened

1961
01:56:33,199 --> 01:56:35,399
my eyes about the thing. I didn't even know about

1962
01:56:35,439 --> 01:56:37,319
Bigfoot at that point in time, or I didn't know

1963
01:56:37,439 --> 01:56:41,119
much information about it, but his his was all all

1964
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:46,359
dog man research. And then I've done a few that

1965
01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:49,319
I didn't Probably early on I didn't realize that we

1966
01:56:49,399 --> 01:56:51,439
were going to get into the dog man thing, because

1967
01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:52,960
you know, it's one of those things that kind of

1968
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:55,239
stretched my mind. I could be believe in Bigfoot, but

1969
01:56:55,359 --> 01:56:57,439
dog man was a little bit beyond what I wanted

1970
01:56:57,479 --> 01:57:00,520
to accept. But as I first threw about it, I

1971
01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:02,600
don't know that there's much difference, you know, and other

1972
01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:04,600
than dog man seems a little bit more violent.

1973
01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:10,399
Speaker 6: But well, I don't know if you know Alaan Strictler,

1974
01:57:11,079 --> 01:57:15,920
but he uses the word ultra terrestrials to describe moth men,

1975
01:57:16,159 --> 01:57:19,960
dog men and some of these creatures. I don't know

1976
01:57:20,039 --> 01:57:23,960
if that's in your it's in your wheelhows that term, Yeah,

1977
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:25,239
kind of makes.

1978
01:57:25,119 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 1: Sense, I did. I just interviewed someone the other day

1979
01:57:28,079 --> 01:57:30,359
that that introduced that term to me. I didn't know

1980
01:57:30,399 --> 01:57:32,279
what it meant either. But you know, I think that

1981
01:57:32,479 --> 01:57:35,560
might be somewhat true. I think there are creatures out

1982
01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:38,119
there like this, and they might fall into that category.

1983
01:57:38,199 --> 01:57:41,920
They may be extraterrestrial, they may be interdimensional, they may,

1984
01:57:42,119 --> 01:57:44,800
you know, have these extra qualities of some sort. There's

1985
01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:49,319
certainly experiences that people have with them that we cannot

1986
01:57:49,439 --> 01:57:54,119
explain because we don't just disappear or you know, up here,

1987
01:57:54,239 --> 01:57:59,439
or disappear or have these kind of unusual qualities about you.

1988
01:57:59,479 --> 01:58:02,399
Speaker 6: Know, per I can't imagine a moth man, you know,

1989
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:05,600
living in the woods feeding on whatever. And you know,

1990
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:09,720
I think there'd be more reports of it, because that's

1991
01:58:09,800 --> 01:58:11,880
got to be some kind of weird you know.

1992
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:13,399
Speaker 8: I didn't.

1993
01:58:13,479 --> 01:58:15,760
Speaker 6: I thought it was allbs. But man, I'll swear in

1994
01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:20,119
a Bible that what I saw was real. I don't

1995
01:58:20,119 --> 01:58:22,119
know where it came from. I don't know what it wanted,

1996
01:58:22,239 --> 01:58:25,239
but it seemed like its only purpose was to scare us,

1997
01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:30,439
which kind of seems like a vampire kind of a

1998
01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:33,239
you know, a thing where they're sucking energy off you,

1999
01:58:33,439 --> 01:58:37,640
off your fear. But what what in the world would

2000
01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:40,119
their purpose be to swoop at a car? You know

2001
01:58:40,159 --> 01:58:44,279
what I mean? It sounds silly. It does, Yeah, it

2002
01:58:44,439 --> 01:58:47,279
just sounds ridiculous. Why would it do that. It's not

2003
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:51,239
it's not gaining anything, it's using energy up exactly.

2004
01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:54,279
Speaker 1: But you know, this is an even weirder thing. I

2005
01:58:54,399 --> 01:58:58,960
think a friend of mine, his mother was driving in

2006
01:58:59,159 --> 01:59:02,159
Arkansas and she swears to this day this happened. There

2007
01:59:02,319 --> 01:59:08,359
was this giant, giant, spider looking thing that slowly walked

2008
01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:11,720
across the road in front of her, and she swears,

2009
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:14,319
you know, it was gigantic, way taller than the car,

2010
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:18,680
and it just slowly had multiple legs. It was black,

2011
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:23,039
and it just slowly walked across the road.

2012
01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:28,439
Speaker 6: It's as creepy as it gets. Is it possible it

2013
01:59:28,600 --> 01:59:31,760
was a big foot doing this so called spider walk

2014
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:32,800
or spider crawl.

2015
01:59:33,479 --> 01:59:35,279
Speaker 1: I think she might have been able to tell a

2016
01:59:35,319 --> 01:59:38,000
big foot from a spider. It was spinning, you know,

2017
01:59:38,239 --> 01:59:39,319
like the spider legs.

2018
01:59:39,359 --> 01:59:42,680
Speaker 6: You know. Yeah, it's so weird because it's such a

2019
01:59:42,840 --> 01:59:50,560
one off. I don't know if you know Albert roselle'es

2020
01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:56,720
he collects humanoid reports and just strange walking creatures, and

2021
01:59:56,960 --> 02:00:02,439
the variety of things people report is so wide and

2022
02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:06,079
so bizarre that you don't want to read that read

2023
02:00:06,199 --> 02:00:10,680
his files before good to bed. You just don't. It's

2024
02:00:10,880 --> 02:00:12,640
just nuts. So what do you I mean, what goes

2025
02:00:12,680 --> 02:00:16,640
through your head? You just I would imagine you have

2026
02:00:16,720 --> 02:00:18,880
no choice but to believe them. But why would they lie?

2027
02:00:19,479 --> 02:00:22,079
There's no reason to make something like that up.

2028
02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:26,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, very few people that I've interviewed that I felt

2029
02:00:26,199 --> 02:00:29,920
like their story didn't hold water. And the ones that didn't,

2030
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:33,119
why not put it on, you know, put the show up.

2031
02:00:33,319 --> 02:00:35,760
But very few of them. And sometimes it's just when

2032
02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:39,000
there's discrepancy and what they're saying and from one part

2033
02:00:39,039 --> 02:00:41,079
of the story to another, if you question them again,

2034
02:00:41,159 --> 02:00:43,640
it just changes, you know, and they don't seem to

2035
02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:46,520
be able to hold up. Another thing is I've noticed,

2036
02:00:46,560 --> 02:00:48,920
you know, as you progress on, they may have a

2037
02:00:49,079 --> 02:00:52,239
small portion of their story is real, and then they

2038
02:00:52,359 --> 02:00:55,319
just start repeating things they've heard, you know, from other stories,

2039
02:00:55,800 --> 02:00:57,279
and you just don't know they're for sure, but you

2040
02:00:57,520 --> 02:00:59,560
can kind of get a feeling. But I haven't had

2041
02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:02,680
many of them. Was almost I would say ninety eight

2042
02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:06,760
percent of everyone I've interviewed, I believe they honestly believe

2043
02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:07,840
the story they were telling me.

2044
02:01:08,119 --> 02:01:11,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, who wakes up and goes, I'm going to see

2045
02:01:11,399 --> 02:01:14,560
a giants, I'm gonna tell a story about seeing a

2046
02:01:14,640 --> 02:01:15,319
giant spider.

2047
02:01:17,119 --> 02:01:20,800
Speaker 9: It's just it's most people that tell the story. It's

2048
02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:23,359
not like their life gets better after they tell the story,

2049
02:01:23,439 --> 02:01:26,600
so there's not a real compelling reason to make it up.

2050
02:01:27,560 --> 02:01:31,680
Speaker 6: No, you have everything to lose, you have nothing. You know.

2051
02:01:33,000 --> 02:01:36,800
People I think they like to tell their story finally

2052
02:01:36,960 --> 02:01:40,279
to you know, it's like therapy. Yes, you know, you

2053
02:01:40,399 --> 02:01:42,840
hold this crap in and then you get to finally

2054
02:01:42,920 --> 02:01:44,840
talk about it. You just don't care anymore and it

2055
02:01:44,960 --> 02:01:50,720
feels good to just get it off your chest. I'm

2056
02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:52,880
glad I haven't seen a giant spider yet.

2057
02:01:52,720 --> 02:01:54,199
Speaker 9: Though that would freak me out.

2058
02:01:54,399 --> 02:01:57,760
Speaker 6: All right, let's talk about your book, Linda that Well,

2059
02:01:57,800 --> 02:02:00,399
we're kind to wrap this up, but bring up your book.

2060
02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:05,199
This cover, first off, is really good, but it's definitely

2061
02:02:05,279 --> 02:02:10,359
at it's definitely creepy. Can you explain the cover and

2062
02:02:10,439 --> 02:02:12,159
then explain what the book's about.

2063
02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 1: Well, this is kind of my lifelong experience of doing

2064
02:02:17,039 --> 02:02:22,479
research and UFO's paranormal ghost activity and Bigfoot and the

2065
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:25,159
threshold to encounters. It just seems like that there's so

2066
02:02:25,520 --> 02:02:30,520
much speculation out there about who has encounters, how they

2067
02:02:30,560 --> 02:02:33,399
have encounters, what encounters they have. So I just put

2068
02:02:33,439 --> 02:02:38,239
it all in there, including you know, governmental programs, projections,

2069
02:02:38,439 --> 02:02:41,800
holograms that might be out there. Also the you know,

2070
02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:44,359
the the delusional part of you know, some people may

2071
02:02:44,479 --> 02:02:47,239
see things that may not actually be there all the

2072
02:02:47,279 --> 02:02:50,239
way through to the you know, the good old researchers

2073
02:02:50,319 --> 02:02:53,159
in the woods seeing things wouldn't writ to you if

2074
02:02:53,159 --> 02:02:55,560
they had to and they saw something, you know, all

2075
02:02:55,600 --> 02:02:57,960
the way through. So the book is really about, you know,

2076
02:02:58,279 --> 02:03:00,760
my life experience in doing all of this research.

2077
02:03:01,359 --> 02:03:04,600
Speaker 6: Okay, are there any conclusions in your book?

2078
02:03:05,279 --> 02:03:07,960
Speaker 1: No, not really, because I don't know, and so I

2079
02:03:08,399 --> 02:03:11,239
just put out theories and ideas. I give a lot

2080
02:03:11,399 --> 02:03:13,800
of firsthand stories that people have shared with me and

2081
02:03:13,880 --> 02:03:17,039
allowed me to put in the book, including the Blue

2082
02:03:17,119 --> 02:03:19,760
Man from Missouri. You know that the old story about

2083
02:03:19,760 --> 02:03:21,880
the blue Man. My dad grew up in that area.

2084
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:25,960
I often wonder if he has any experiences with that,

2085
02:03:26,119 --> 02:03:28,800
because that's that's exactly where my dad grew up. But

2086
02:03:29,680 --> 02:03:32,840
the Ozarks had had the blue Man back in what

2087
02:03:33,039 --> 02:03:35,600
the thirties forties, you know, that was reported a lot,

2088
02:03:35,720 --> 02:03:40,800
so it was a large bigfoot looking creature that had

2089
02:03:41,439 --> 02:03:45,439
really black hair, and because the hair was so black,

2090
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:47,239
when the sun would shine on it looked blue.

2091
02:03:47,800 --> 02:03:58,560
Speaker 6: Okay. Interesting. Matt Langford asked whether you've ever had any

2092
02:03:58,720 --> 02:04:02,600
witnesses that were angry or anybody who's had any encounters

2093
02:04:02,720 --> 02:04:05,960
with whether it's UFOs or bigfoots where they felt the

2094
02:04:06,039 --> 02:04:07,279
creatures were angry.

2095
02:04:08,439 --> 02:04:13,520
Speaker 1: Definitely, yeah, yeah, definitely yeah, on both sides. On the

2096
02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:17,880
UFO side, it felt like they were more angry if

2097
02:04:17,960 --> 02:04:22,119
the person wasn't cooperative. They felt, you know, there was

2098
02:04:22,199 --> 02:04:25,720
sternness there, not so much like like Bigfoot. You know,

2099
02:04:25,800 --> 02:04:31,079
Guard's territory doesn't want people in and a certain location

2100
02:04:31,239 --> 02:04:36,119
at a certain time maybe and exhibited very very you know,

2101
02:04:36,319 --> 02:04:41,159
strong expression to get themselves out of there. So yeah,

2102
02:04:41,239 --> 02:04:43,920
but you know, as to I haven't talked to anyone

2103
02:04:44,039 --> 02:04:46,119
that actually got hurt other than getting hit by a

2104
02:04:46,239 --> 02:04:49,960
rock in Bigfoot territory. You know that that's as far

2105
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:53,760
as it would go. Terrified. Yes, I just interviewed a

2106
02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:56,239
woman I think that just my It just came out

2107
02:04:56,279 --> 02:04:58,319
the other day where it's like two in the morning.

2108
02:04:58,439 --> 02:05:01,000
She had car treble in the mount Mountains in Oklahoma,

2109
02:05:01,720 --> 02:05:04,720
and this bigfoot. You know, she was sleeping in the

2110
02:05:04,800 --> 02:05:08,960
road waiting for rescue when this bigfoot came. She heard

2111
02:05:09,079 --> 02:05:12,640
the breathing and she was asleep. She had a stick

2112
02:05:12,720 --> 02:05:14,800
because she knew she was in territory with her offering

2113
02:05:15,199 --> 02:05:17,680
some type of a wild cat is out there. I

2114
02:05:17,680 --> 02:05:20,319
can't remember what she said, bobcat probably, and so she

2115
02:05:20,399 --> 02:05:22,600
had a stick because she knew how to fend herself

2116
02:05:23,680 --> 02:05:27,439
a way of a bobcat. But this thing was huge.

2117
02:05:27,520 --> 02:05:29,399
It was tall, it was enormous. You know, it was

2118
02:05:29,479 --> 02:05:33,439
just this gigantic thing on two feet. So it wasn't

2119
02:05:33,640 --> 02:05:35,720
and she wasn't familiar with bigfoot really, but you know,

2120
02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:38,279
she it wasn't that it was dark. It was really dark.

2121
02:05:38,319 --> 02:05:40,399
It was two in the morning. So she and she's

2122
02:05:40,520 --> 02:05:43,319
in like flip flop shoes, so, you know, not exactly

2123
02:05:43,399 --> 02:05:47,560
the best shoes to you know, to protect herself. And

2124
02:05:47,640 --> 02:05:50,800
this thing just kept plunging at her and she kept

2125
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:52,399
hitting it with a stick. And they did this for

2126
02:05:52,520 --> 02:05:55,279
such a long time till she was so exhausted and

2127
02:05:55,359 --> 02:05:57,840
her feet were killing her, and you know, she lost,

2128
02:05:58,039 --> 02:06:01,119
you know, at least one shoe. She's on rocks and

2129
02:06:01,760 --> 02:06:04,479
she just doesn't know what else to do, and finally

2130
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:06,520
she just throws down the stick, turns around and starts

2131
02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:09,239
walking off. She walked for about a mile. This thing

2132
02:06:09,399 --> 02:06:12,840
followed her, but wasn't attacking her at that point. She

2133
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:15,399
went another mile or so. She knew this later because

2134
02:06:15,439 --> 02:06:17,560
that's how far she was from the intersection they were

2135
02:06:17,600 --> 02:06:21,520
supposed to rescue her at and they I mean, when

2136
02:06:21,600 --> 02:06:24,279
she described this to the man that was there, the

2137
02:06:24,439 --> 02:06:27,600
rescue team that came, he said, yeah, we hit reports

2138
02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:29,359
of that. That's a big foot, you know, we get

2139
02:06:29,399 --> 02:06:32,279
reports of those here all the time. They took her

2140
02:06:32,319 --> 02:06:35,760
to the hospital. She was terribly dehydrated, exhausted, and of

2141
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:40,840
course in anxiety mode. She was a physician, so you

2142
02:06:40,880 --> 02:06:42,479
know when she got the hospital was the hospital she

2143
02:06:42,600 --> 02:06:45,840
worked at, actually, and she was hysterical. Her sister came

2144
02:06:45,960 --> 02:06:48,720
and first she's you know, blabbering off about this creature

2145
02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:51,399
and this bigfoot, you know, and trying to keep it

2146
02:06:51,439 --> 02:06:55,119
away from her, trying to stay alive. And you know,

2147
02:06:55,359 --> 02:06:57,560
it was a little embarrassing the next day because she

2148
02:06:57,600 --> 02:06:59,640
had to go to work. You know, she's talked all

2149
02:06:59,640 --> 02:07:03,560
about this hysterically, but that was probably one of the

2150
02:07:03,680 --> 02:07:07,880
scariest bigfoot stories I've heard because she was alone, it's

2151
02:07:07,960 --> 02:07:10,479
two in the morning, you know, she her cell phone

2152
02:07:10,479 --> 02:07:12,279
wouldn't work. That's why she had to walk, you know,

2153
02:07:12,479 --> 02:07:16,119
to this intersection and finally got got a hold of

2154
02:07:16,199 --> 02:07:18,119
nine to one one to come, you know, to come

2155
02:07:18,199 --> 02:07:20,520
rescue her. But she had to wait for them because

2156
02:07:20,520 --> 02:07:22,840
there was a long long ways from a rescue unit

2157
02:07:22,920 --> 02:07:26,600
to come out there for So it was. That was

2158
02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:28,399
a bizarre story, but an interesting one.

2159
02:07:29,359 --> 02:07:34,199
Speaker 6: What about anytime you need to bail Linda good you

2160
02:07:34,359 --> 02:07:36,279
just you just you just yell at me and I'll

2161
02:07:36,520 --> 02:07:40,079
let you go. But okay, so I just thought of

2162
02:07:40,119 --> 02:07:43,119
another question. I want to ask you. How about people

2163
02:07:43,279 --> 02:07:49,159
reporting portals. What are your thoughts on, you know, not

2164
02:07:49,319 --> 02:07:53,159
only portals for UFOs, but portals for bigfoots. I've heard

2165
02:07:53,239 --> 02:07:56,800
some really credible people tell me some crazy stories. But

2166
02:07:56,880 --> 02:07:59,960
I got to just tell you this story. I saw footage,

2167
02:08:00,479 --> 02:08:05,960
literally like two weeks ago, of a guy who claims

2168
02:08:06,119 --> 02:08:08,800
he has a portal on his property and he actually

2169
02:08:09,079 --> 02:08:13,600
has this giant structure on his property and he's like,

2170
02:08:14,159 --> 02:08:18,079
he films a video of a deer and he goes,

2171
02:08:18,359 --> 02:08:20,880
this deer just came through the portal. I swear to god,

2172
02:08:21,000 --> 02:08:24,720
you the deer's got its eyes closed standing there. He goes,

2173
02:08:24,760 --> 02:08:27,119
he's a little stunned, right town. He goes to pet

2174
02:08:27,239 --> 02:08:30,720
the deer, and the deer gonna instantly pulls back from

2175
02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:33,560
the guy. But his eyes are I've never seen a

2176
02:08:33,640 --> 02:08:36,439
deer with his eyes closed standing next to a man.

2177
02:08:36,560 --> 02:08:39,279
He's like, yeah, I just brought this guy through the portal.

2178
02:08:39,920 --> 02:08:42,800
And I don't know what to think of that video.

2179
02:08:43,920 --> 02:08:46,840
Speaker 1: Wow, so he just brought him through the portal.

2180
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:50,039
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know. I don't know the guy.

2181
02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:53,000
I'm gonna find out. I'm gonna find out because this

2182
02:08:53,079 --> 02:08:56,680
footage is so crazy, but it's real and it's a

2183
02:08:56,720 --> 02:08:58,600
white tailed deer and he's standing. He goes, I just

2184
02:08:58,680 --> 02:09:01,760
brought this guy through the portal. He's doing okay, but

2185
02:09:01,880 --> 02:09:04,720
he's a little stunned still, and his eyes are closed.

2186
02:09:05,279 --> 02:09:08,520
Like the deer is like clenching his eyes shut. But

2187
02:09:08,680 --> 02:09:12,279
as the guy puts his hand towards the deer, before

2188
02:09:12,279 --> 02:09:16,119
he even touches the deer, the deer flinches away from him.

2189
02:09:16,199 --> 02:09:19,800
So the deer is very much awake. He's not drugged

2190
02:09:19,840 --> 02:09:23,520
or he wouldn't do that. And the guy is like, oh,

2191
02:09:23,560 --> 02:09:27,319
you're gonna be okay. But he's told the guy that

2192
02:09:27,479 --> 02:09:30,800
showed me the video all sorts of stories, and he

2193
02:09:30,920 --> 02:09:33,600
got invited to go up there, and he got invited

2194
02:09:33,600 --> 02:09:37,279
to go up When the guy brings creatures and animals through.

2195
02:09:37,159 --> 02:09:40,079
Speaker 1: The portal, where does he wonder where they come from?

2196
02:09:41,319 --> 02:09:44,359
Speaker 6: I don't know. I have no idea. It's in Minnesota,

2197
02:09:44,720 --> 02:09:47,279
so it's a Minnesota Well, the only.

2198
02:09:48,239 --> 02:09:50,680
Speaker 1: Portal I'm really familiar with is just the one that

2199
02:09:50,840 --> 02:09:56,239
Trey Hudson, you know, explores at the meadow and you know,

2200
02:09:56,319 --> 02:09:58,800
they found it was a box, you know that they

2201
02:09:59,359 --> 02:10:01,720
they only found on it through the flare that they

2202
02:10:01,960 --> 02:10:04,119
could see that there was a cube out there in

2203
02:10:04,199 --> 02:10:06,880
the meadow. And then of course those two guys that

2204
02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:09,800
were researching, they went out and walked into it, and

2205
02:10:09,920 --> 02:10:13,399
when they did, there was no more hate signature of

2206
02:10:13,560 --> 02:10:15,279
the two guys when they were inside.

2207
02:10:14,960 --> 02:10:17,039
Speaker 6: This heard this story second.

2208
02:10:17,239 --> 02:10:21,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was that was interesting, you know, And

2209
02:10:22,000 --> 02:10:24,960
I haven't heard of many other portals besides that, because

2210
02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:26,760
we went out to this area to try to find

2211
02:10:26,800 --> 02:10:28,720
a portal, but we didn't really find much out there.

2212
02:10:28,920 --> 02:10:31,279
Lots of things have gone on in that area, however,

2213
02:10:31,720 --> 02:10:35,319
Lots of UFO activity. There was a wood doughnut UFO

2214
02:10:35,479 --> 02:10:37,600
went over the lake. There was a big foot scene

2215
02:10:37,760 --> 02:10:41,640
really close by there. There's some and and the man

2216
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:45,520
who studies dog Man was there with us at that

2217
02:10:46,039 --> 02:10:49,239
At that time, we heard a wood knock that was

2218
02:10:49,359 --> 02:10:52,039
really loud, and I didn't I didn't even heard a

2219
02:10:52,039 --> 02:10:55,199
woodknock before. And I just mentioned, what is that? And

2220
02:10:55,359 --> 02:10:57,720
he said, that's a wood knock, you know. And he

2221
02:10:57,920 --> 02:11:02,239
had he had been in security and patrol that area

2222
02:11:02,359 --> 02:11:04,760
many times. It was a lake area, and he said

2223
02:11:04,840 --> 02:11:07,520
some really strange things would happen there at night, but

2224
02:11:07,760 --> 02:11:09,560
you know, nothing that he could put his finger on

2225
02:11:10,399 --> 02:11:12,439
to tell me about. But he said, just a very

2226
02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:15,359
airy feeling out there at night. But we didn't really

2227
02:11:15,600 --> 02:11:17,279
have anything happened to us when we were there.

2228
02:11:19,439 --> 02:11:23,079
Speaker 6: Interesting, Oh man, I mean, that's just like such a

2229
02:11:23,279 --> 02:11:29,000
strange can of worms. But I've talked to two people

2230
02:11:29,079 --> 02:11:31,399
I trust a lot, and they claimed they were out

2231
02:11:31,520 --> 02:11:36,520
on a bigfoot expedition here several summers ago, and they

2232
02:11:36,600 --> 02:11:39,760
both claimed they saw a square portal open up like

2233
02:11:39,880 --> 02:11:43,800
a cube in the middle of the woods. It's like,

2234
02:11:44,039 --> 02:11:46,319
what you know what I mean? I was like, oh,

2235
02:11:46,479 --> 02:11:51,800
I wish I was there really something to see? You know,

2236
02:11:52,000 --> 02:11:56,000
so I've heard these stories. And then up at snow

2237
02:11:56,399 --> 02:11:58,680
one of our members said they saw a portal open

2238
02:11:58,800 --> 02:12:01,199
up in the sky. And then we had a bunch

2239
02:12:01,279 --> 02:12:04,119
of red orbs visit the cabin. Everybody saw them but me.

2240
02:12:04,560 --> 02:12:08,399
Everybody but me that was at my back turns like

2241
02:12:08,920 --> 02:12:11,359
they were you know, people would turn white. It's like

2242
02:12:11,439 --> 02:12:15,000
what they're like, Well, two red orbs just whiz by,

2243
02:12:15,960 --> 02:12:20,279
you know, like low to the ground. So I don't know,

2244
02:12:20,560 --> 02:12:21,960
I don't know what to think about all this.

2245
02:12:22,960 --> 02:12:26,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, the interesting report. Just the other day, a group

2246
02:12:26,279 --> 02:12:29,479
of us were together and someone was talking about seeing

2247
02:12:29,600 --> 02:12:33,159
these Really they were hard to see, but they were

2248
02:12:33,359 --> 02:12:37,079
like these large like amiebas, and you could barely see them.

2249
02:12:37,119 --> 02:12:39,359
Weren't clouds, you could see through them. They were kind

2250
02:12:39,439 --> 02:12:43,119
of weird jellyfish looking things. They were floating through the

2251
02:12:43,239 --> 02:12:46,760
sky and they just kept floating in one after another.

2252
02:12:46,840 --> 02:12:50,359
They were huge, but just really odd. But he said,

2253
02:12:50,439 --> 02:12:52,319
you know, first he didn't notice them, and a guy

2254
02:12:52,359 --> 02:12:54,560
that was there with him looked up and said pointed

2255
02:12:54,600 --> 02:12:56,680
them out to him, and as he started looking he

2256
02:12:56,720 --> 02:12:57,279
could see them.

2257
02:12:57,319 --> 02:12:57,479
Speaker 9: You know.

2258
02:12:57,640 --> 02:13:01,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they very strange, these very strange jellyfish like the

2259
02:13:01,960 --> 02:13:04,359
me but looking things, you know, floating across the sky.

2260
02:13:04,840 --> 02:13:06,119
I'd never heard that before.

2261
02:13:07,239 --> 02:13:09,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, we've seen videos of that. We've had it on that,

2262
02:13:09,079 --> 02:13:12,479
We've showed videos on the show of that. Pretty strange stuff.

2263
02:13:13,760 --> 02:13:16,399
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what to I don't know

2264
02:13:16,439 --> 02:13:19,000
what to think of any of this stuff I'm getting.

2265
02:13:20,319 --> 02:13:24,600
I mean, the world's getting weirder and weirder and weirder.

2266
02:13:26,800 --> 02:13:29,840
I just yeah, I don't know what to think. I

2267
02:13:29,880 --> 02:13:31,840
don't even I'm not sure I want to think about

2268
02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:34,640
any I don't think if I want to see anything more. So,

2269
02:13:35,079 --> 02:13:38,319
are you really like, would you love the opportunity to

2270
02:13:38,359 --> 02:13:39,399
see a bigfoot? Linda?

2271
02:13:40,079 --> 02:13:42,000
Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't mind seeing one. I think I

2272
02:13:42,039 --> 02:13:44,239
would like to see it from my car as I'm

2273
02:13:44,399 --> 02:13:47,319
driving down the road and it's walking along the side

2274
02:13:47,319 --> 02:13:49,560
of the road. I don't know that I want one

2275
02:13:49,640 --> 02:13:53,439
of these, you know, face to face encounters, or any

2276
02:13:53,600 --> 02:13:56,079
scary place where I'm invading their territory and they don't

2277
02:13:56,119 --> 02:13:57,800
want me there. I don't know if I want that

2278
02:13:58,039 --> 02:14:00,239
type of an encounter, but I really wouldn't mind. Team

2279
02:14:00,279 --> 02:14:01,560
went alongside the road.

2280
02:14:03,199 --> 02:14:06,640
Speaker 6: And the good place to see it. We've seen two

2281
02:14:06,880 --> 02:14:10,640
really close at the side of the road, meaning event,

2282
02:14:11,680 --> 02:14:14,520
and it's so nice to have a witness. Oh my god,

2283
02:14:14,640 --> 02:14:18,279
that's so nice because if you don't have a witness,

2284
02:14:18,359 --> 02:14:20,920
you're kind of like it's just your word, that's it.

2285
02:14:22,439 --> 02:14:26,039
Somebody said Adam, Adam Davies loves it when you ask

2286
02:14:26,159 --> 02:14:28,960
him about the portal. Yeah, and I did. I I

2287
02:14:29,000 --> 02:14:31,119
had my son in the phone and I called Adam

2288
02:14:31,199 --> 02:14:34,000
and I go, tell us about your portal experience. And

2289
02:14:34,119 --> 02:14:37,640
Adam was just totally straight with it. He just told

2290
02:14:37,680 --> 02:14:41,680
this whole story. Have you ever talked to Adam about that?

2291
02:14:42,960 --> 02:14:46,359
You should get him on your show and ask him

2292
02:14:46,399 --> 02:14:52,279
about this strange night that he had. It Just that's

2293
02:14:52,319 --> 02:14:54,600
something you expect to come from Adam. I mean, Adam's

2294
02:14:54,640 --> 02:14:58,399
a guy I hired to do like jungle expeditions and

2295
02:14:59,119 --> 02:15:02,039
go to the Himalayas, and you know what I mean.

2296
02:15:02,119 --> 02:15:05,239
He's just he just does not seem like the portal guy.

2297
02:15:05,600 --> 02:15:08,119
But he tells it like it is and he's like,

2298
02:15:09,000 --> 02:15:10,600
he goes, I don't know what to think of it.

2299
02:15:10,880 --> 02:15:11,720
That's what I saw.

2300
02:15:13,319 --> 02:15:16,680
Speaker 9: So it is interesting. I've there's there's a lot of

2301
02:15:16,760 --> 02:15:20,840
subjects that I didn't find very plausible, you know, a

2302
02:15:20,880 --> 02:15:22,840
couple of years ago, but just from talking to people

2303
02:15:22,920 --> 02:15:26,520
telling these stories, yeah, there's some pretty credible stories. I mean,

2304
02:15:27,399 --> 02:15:30,319
like Linda said, these people saw something that you can

2305
02:15:30,399 --> 02:15:32,359
kind of tell when someone's just telling a story. But

2306
02:15:33,359 --> 02:15:36,359
these people saw something. Yeah, and that's credible. I mean,

2307
02:15:36,399 --> 02:15:40,000
it's it's it's it's hard to just dismiss that it is.

2308
02:15:40,439 --> 02:15:43,439
Speaker 6: Well, it's easier when you haven't seen it yourself. Of course,

2309
02:15:44,439 --> 02:15:47,399
at least you feel like there's a chance it's not real.

2310
02:15:48,239 --> 02:15:52,560
But when you start seeing it yourself. Somebody had asked

2311
02:15:52,600 --> 02:15:54,600
and I'm like, I think it was Matt, and asked,

2312
02:15:55,920 --> 02:15:58,000
you know, what's your where is your fear level at

2313
02:15:58,079 --> 02:15:59,560
when you're out in the field. But I think we

2314
02:15:59,680 --> 02:16:03,479
answered that already. Go back and watch at the beginning

2315
02:16:03,560 --> 02:16:05,960
of the show, Matt. That was one of the first

2316
02:16:06,039 --> 02:16:10,239
questions I asked you, all right, let's wrap this up here.

2317
02:16:12,000 --> 02:16:14,720
Thank you so much, Linda. And where can people get

2318
02:16:14,760 --> 02:16:17,239
your book? And they if they want an autograph copy,

2319
02:16:17,319 --> 02:16:17,960
can they get one?

2320
02:16:18,560 --> 02:16:20,479
Speaker 1: Well, if they want an autograph copy, yeah, they can

2321
02:16:20,680 --> 02:16:24,640
just go to my website. You can just contact me

2322
02:16:24,800 --> 02:16:28,479
through my website. It's just Lindasbern dot com. You can

2323
02:16:28,560 --> 02:16:31,399
also get one through Amazon, but it won't be signed,

2324
02:16:31,479 --> 02:16:33,200
but you can get through Amazon of course.

2325
02:16:34,719 --> 02:16:39,040
Speaker 6: Very cool. I'm very cool, and I uh put the

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cover back up, Jeff. Yeah, we go there, we go

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the threshold to encounter. It's a great.

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Speaker 9: Title.

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Speaker 6: I love the title. Well, thank you so much. Sorry

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to bombard you with so many stupid questions or weird

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questions that were kind of out of the blue.

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Speaker 1: Oh I loved it. Yeah, I love the topic.

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Speaker 6: Okay, well, forgive me if I if I hit you

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from too many different directions. That's what happens when you

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get interviewed by a guy with ADHD, is true? Yes, anyhow,

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thanks so much, Linda, But just stand by. We're going

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to do our wisdom then we'll then we'll wrap up here.

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Speaker 9: Hey tight, everyone, and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 2: It's now time for untold Radio and Wisdom of the Week.

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It's easy to forget there's a real person on the

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other side of that screen, someone with bills, pain, family,

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bad days, and a heart just like yours. A cheap

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insult may get a few likes, but it also leaves

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a mark, and sometimes you never know how heavy that

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mark lands. The strongest people don't need to tear strangers

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down to feel taller.

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Speaker 9: Good night.

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Speaker 2: We hope to see you all next week. If you

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like the show tonight, please consider giving us a thumbs up,

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leaving a nice comment, and most of all, subscribing and

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hitting the bell so you will be notified when a

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new episode is dropping.

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Speaker 8: Also, please share this episode. Now back to Doug and

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Jeff for our rap.

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Speaker 9: As always, that was good wisdom, very good wisdom, and

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thank you so much, Linda, and I recommend you go

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over if you're not familiar with the Linda Eastburn YouTube channel,

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get over there and subscribe.

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Speaker 6: I always watch your shows. I binge that Melnda. It

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drives me nuts because I'm like, okay, one more, one more,

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one more, and I find out the sun's coming up.

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And what's cool about your show, Linda, and what makes

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it very different their very long form, and that is

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something I think now people are craving because of all

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this short you know, little videos that are all over

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social media. Yeah, but your your your shows are very thorough. Yeah,

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and I really appreciate them. Good, thank you, Yeah, Well,

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thank you for coming on, and we'll be back next week. Yeah,

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we've got another surprise. Guest, and we will see everybody

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next Sunday.

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Speaker 9: Thanks everybody tonight.

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Speaker 17: I call you up in the middle of the night,

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been bothered by dreams and feeling all day.

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Speaker 18: You give me comfort, say just give it some time.

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Speaker 17: By the end of our talk, I'm feeling just fine.

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You have always no will we be long the same,

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no ordinary we got going on.

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Speaker 8: I'll pick you up in the fifteen hour. Pard, We

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head on down the road till week.

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Speaker 1: At for winning in the sun and the wind.

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Speaker 6: If the gracious to fall.

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Speaker 3: Able, head on home again.

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Speaker 19: Everybody else can't see would we be.

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Speaker 3: We know or every we can go in all.

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Speaker 19: At the end of the world together forever on and

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all ray if better you should be endowed in our pray.

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We never compot us apart in alway all the time

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would be together every day. But I know if feathers

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would be less straight.

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Speaker 1: About a way back.

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Speaker 7: Home to you Orgain.

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Speaker 18: At the end of the world together forever is well

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our way it never you should be endowed and comparate.

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They never composed a part in Lorway, But the end

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of the world together forever is fond in Norway. If never,

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you should be endowed in Hobway.

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Speaker 3: They never compose a part in Horway.

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Speaker 19: One a time when we beg together, never retable, it

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never would be astray.

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Speaker 18: And all the way back to

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Speaker 6: No