Speaker 1: Shhh.
Speaker 2: Tonight's guest is Linda, looking.
Speaker 3: Back on life that you leave him then resting home
in the crowd, stick around through the crane.
Speaker 4: The feeding whore, the fire.
Speaker 5: You're dancing around?
Speaker 6: Are we hearing sound of the treating?
Speaker 7: And no one cares where he's coming from? My ears
is no ringing feeding.
Speaker 8: I guess we are knew from the start.
Speaker 3: He's on the days not go. You know, one of
these days will be the world. Look at Frances, what
a sask He's on the test, my coasto, my coslo
leading the fumes of the ashes, the spirits, la epitom
looking down the.
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Speaker 2: Now Here are your Untold Radio a M posts, Doug
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Speaker 9: And here we are welcome.
Speaker 6: I'm overtons. We're back for another episode. Episode three oh four.
Speaker 9: Three oh four four episodes of Unverified Crap.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I forgot my rut bearer and my water.
Speaker 9: What the heck is right? I got my water right here,
I plan all.
Speaker 6: Somebody snuck me at bottle fire At the last second,
I got tossed a bottle.
Speaker 9: That was nice of her.
Speaker 6: Anyhow, Yes, we are ready for another wild ride tonight
with the strange, the laned, and the mysterious, and every
now and then a streaming pile of unverified. As you
reminded this, just because it's unverified doesn't mean it's true. Correct.
We want to make that clear. It's just not verified.
Speaker 9: Mhmm.
Speaker 6: We wouldn't exist that, we wouldn't be talking about it
if it was verified. Raccoons are raccoons are verified. We
don't talk about raccoon.
Speaker 9: No, not typically No, No, maybe we should so too.
Verified raccoons.
Speaker 6: Well, we've seen unverified deer. We have me and you
have together.
Speaker 9: That was pretty weird.
Speaker 6: That was weird. It's unverified, but we did see a
not deer.
Speaker 9: You did. It was a strange little animal.
Speaker 6: Yes. Anyhow, So, by the way, somebody's mowing the lawn
outside the studio. If you can hear that lawnmower, it's
not you can't hear it. So tonight we got a
great one for you. Episode three or four, we have
Strange Encounters, Bigfoot cryptids, high strangeness with Linda Eastburn.
Speaker 9: Yeah, looking forward to talking to her.
Speaker 6: I think almost everybody knows who Linda is by now.
She is. You know, she's an author too. Did you know.
Speaker 9: That I did? You did well? And because holdout a
second here, she sent me a covert of her There
there we go.
Speaker 6: A book cover that is pretty creepy cover.
Speaker 9: We'll talk about that more later.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she's tho, no, no, but she has spent years collecting,
sharing the stories on the edge of the unknown. She
really is. Ah, so we're gonna be talking about bigfoot cryptids,
her encounters, things seen in the woods, things.
Speaker 9: Hurt in the dark, the raccoons.
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe raccoons, those moments where your brain says nope,
yep you And of course we have another full plate
of weirdness tonight. We'll kick things off of our weird
and Fast news. We've got clips, right.
Speaker 9: We do.
Speaker 6: And I don't know what else we have, Oh, we have,
we have. We have other things that will get the
the crap meter twitch the crap meter.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's our goal, is to get that crap metering we.
Speaker 6: Still haven't made the crap meter. I got to do that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you forgetting Still in the testing phase.
Speaker 6: Well yeah, it's hard to get the algorithms just a
certain certain way.
Speaker 9: You have unsorted crap now, so we have to test
and get that into sort.
Speaker 6: Of the first of its kind. Anyhow, And I'm trying
to think, Oh, I might, for just some odd reason,
I have new White Wolf Entertainment Records hats, and I
might give those away, give one away. They're not cheap.
Speaker 9: No T shirts and hats have gone up a ton
in the last half.
Speaker 6: But this is a really good quality hate They're good quality,
and it's unworn. It's it's new with the plastic.
Speaker 9: Still is that verified?
Speaker 6: It's verified? Oh what else we've got here? That's about it.
Let's uh uh No, I don't I don't know if
we're doing fagas funk tonight.
Speaker 9: Nope, don't have anything for that.
Speaker 6: No, no fagas fun. Got some clips, got some news, Yeah,
we do have some weird stuff. So anyhow, grab a
comfy chair, demmer lights. Lock the doors, do not forget
to lock the doors. Keep one eye on the tree line.
That's where it's important.
Speaker 9: Just one eye Okay, just one eye.
Speaker 6: You don't have to you don't have to have to,
just one and we will.
Speaker 9: Let's kick it off with our news.
Speaker 6: It's time for.
Speaker 8: Weird and fast knees.
Speaker 6: All right, Jeff, let's get weird. Let's let's start out. Yeah,
with the US is building a DNA bio vault for
endangered species. The DNA of wildlife conservation is the goal.
So the US Fish and Wildlife Service. Oh, by the way,
we do talk about ferrets. Apparently there's a ferret. That's fair,
they're verified. Firtsybody want a ferret for a pet? They're
too quick.
Speaker 9: I don't get it either, but yeah, it was like
it was just creepy.
Speaker 6: Go over there and nothing's darting around hiding. Yeah, peaking, darting.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't like it.
Speaker 9: I don't get it, but hey whatever whatever.
Speaker 6: Anyhow, the US Fish and Wilife Service is partnering with.
Speaker 10: A Colossal Bioscience to create a cryogenic archive of living
cells reproductive tissues in genomic DNA from roughly two thousand,
three hundred threatened.
Speaker 6: And endangered animals, oh and plants that are protected under
the Endangered Species Act. It says Colossal says the biovault
will store samples and liquid nitrogen at about three hundred
and twenty one degrees fahrenheit minus fahrenheit. That's cold with redundancies.
Apparently they're going to store two of everything and a
different thing in case of a power failure. I guess
they wouldn't want a disaster to wipe out the collection.
It's basically a modern Noah's Arc. Right.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm surprised that you can freeze that stuff and
not damage it. But I know, what do I know?
Speaker 6: I don't know how that works either. To me, it
would freak me out. Like they freeze eggs and sperm
and they put them together and they're supposed to have
a great, you know, healthy child, and they do. Yeah,
but you would think there'd be some cell damage or something.
I don't know. I don't get it. I don't get it.
Speaker 9: Do you ever play with liquid nitrogen?
Speaker 6: It's pretty Oh yeah, yeah, dry is lots of lots
of dries.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I used to get dry as by the buckets,
like the barrel, fifty five gallon barrel of it. Yeah,
fun stuffs cold, all right. Next Queen Queen bees are
not made by royal jelly alone, so says this unverified article.
Speaker 9: I can't verify that.
Speaker 6: No, it says for decades, the simple story was feed
on honeybead, larva royal jelly and you will get a queen.
New research says it's much more elaborate. Worker bees build
special royal cribs made from different wax. They regulate the heat,
the humidity, and dedicate young teams to raising the future queen.
Larva raised in ordinary worker wax were more likely to
die and developed into smaller queens even when fed the
same food. So the cool twist is the whole hive
acts almost like a living machine, engineering a royal nursery.
Queen making is.
Speaker 8: Not just diet.
Speaker 9: Bees are pretty that whole that's they're just insane. How
much the whole thing is crazy.
Speaker 6: So it says here you have to have architecture, chemistry, warmth,
and social teamwork to animals. Yeah, they are still still
don't like them. No, I mean I like them, but
I don't like them around me. Oh my god. I
got into it, not an argument, but a debate with
somebody about bees because I'm like, did you know they're carnivorous?
Right away? They're looking it up on AI, going no,
they're not. All they eat is you know, uh, plant
matter and and pollend and all that crap. And I'm
like no, because every time I've been in a camp
in the fall and you get tons of bees and
they're bothering you for everything because all the pollen is
kind of dissipated in the fall, right, and so they're
always trying to take a chunk out of you. And
so what we would do is, well, I'm not gonna
say I would do it, but he would hang a
hot dog on a string, and the bees would eat
so much meat that they would fall to the ground
really just be so full. They couldn't buy you for
a while. It interesting for a while. They would just
kind of go away for a little while.
Speaker 9: I suppose if they're hungry athlete anything.
Speaker 6: Well, I know, but it's don't don't don't try to
verify it and hey I because it won't come up.
All right, what do we got next?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, boring DNA reveals in Japan's new first new newly
described bird species in more than forty years. I mean,
it's just basically is that it's a warbler.
Speaker 9: Leaf warbler.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, and it's like, so it's a little
different genetically, Okay, it's.
Speaker 8: Kind of boring.
Speaker 9: Okay, that's a verified animal.
Speaker 6: And then it says another one. A new AI tool
can identify wild animals by their stripes and there are
spots in real time. Well that's kind of cool.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Researchers developed an open source AI system called the called
rapid that identifies individual animals from their unique coat patterns
like zebra stripes, jaguar rosettes, and giraffe spots. It can
run on drones, camera traps, and other field devices and
does not even need heavy GPU power and test it
hit eighty nine percent to ninety nine percent accuracy. So
there you go. If you want to tell two giraffes apart,
you do this with their things.
Speaker 9: I don't need that often.
Speaker 6: But you could do whales too.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that was the first thing I thought.
Speaker 6: Of, actually, because they get scars on them. Oh my goodness,
I'll buy you one for Ristmas job.
Speaker 9: So I can identify my zebra collection. Yes, yes, I
can you ever tell them apart?
Speaker 6: Scientists reprogrammed brain immune cells to fight Alzheimer's and animal models,
and this says researchers in Spain and Switzerland identified them
molecule called O L E that appears to restore protective
protective behavior in uh microlia. How do you say that, Jeff,
my croglia microlia?
Speaker 9: Sure? Why not?
Speaker 6: The brain's immune cells. That's called microgame.
Speaker 9: I learned something new that my croglia keep going. Microglia,
my kroglia, my kroglia, my krogle.
Speaker 6: How's your crog How is your crogre doing?
Speaker 9: Pretty good? Okay, I would checked that in a few minutes,
but I'll take a look later.
Speaker 6: And Alzheimer's models, the O L E helped my crog
my krog glia move forward beta amy Lloyd plaques and
surround them and reduce their toxic impact and improve memory
test performance in treated mice. This is still an early
stage animals sell culture work, not a human treatment yet,
but the big idea is powerful and instead of only
attacking plaque directly, it reawakens the brain's own cleanup crew.
That would be a lot of people. It's it's not
a good thing, it's awful. That would be awful. Jack,
I like this one. Jack Fruit, latex and pomegranate peel
may help prepare gum disease damage. It's kind of weird, right.
He just tries that one day. So I think I'm
gonna try some jack fruit latexruit. No, yeah, by a
scientists buddy. I brought one over to my house one day.
He goes, hey, come on, grab this jackfruit. We're gonna
eat it. Like no or not.
Speaker 9: Pomgranate's great, but it's hard to eat. I've never yeah,
I just never tried jackfrut. I would try it, but
I'm sure you would.
Speaker 6: Brazilian researchers create a new biomterial from jackfruit, latex, and
pomegranate peel extract. It's called the SIMVASTI for severe gum disease.
Paradontis destroys tissue and bone around the teeth. In current
treatments mostly control infection rather than rebuild the damage. In
test results, human stem cells using human st stem cells
the gel encourage b Well, that's the deal. It's not
that the latex. They're putting stem cells in it, and
they're putting the latex then on the gums and it
sticks to the gums. So it has nothing to do
with the jackfruit. That's just a carrier.
Speaker 9: See, I can't verify that.
Speaker 6: I can't either. It says it is a nice science,
nice weird science flavor. Tropical fruit glue is what it
tastes like.
Speaker 9: Sure, why next? Next?
Speaker 6: Mars may have a vast hidden magma system like Earth?
Why always thought it did, didn't you?
Speaker 9: I didn't know. I did. I actually did think Mars
was active. But why wouldn't it be, Well, there's not
really any volcanic activity, or.
Speaker 6: Yeah there is, I thought there was. I thought there
were volcanoes.
Speaker 8: That gather the old Well they're old.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don think any recent movement but every day.
Speaker 6: Well, here's here's what it says. Oxford researchers use NASA
Insight seismic data from Mars quakes and meteor impacts to
study a mysterious boundary about twenty four kilometers below Mars surface.
Their analysis suggests Mars once had huge, long lived underground
magma systems that re reprocess material through the crust, even
without Earth style plate tatonics. It says that matters because
geological recycling helps planet build atmospheres, oceans habitable conditions. The
exciting implications are that rocky planets may not need plate
teutonics exactly like Earth to become chemically complex. Who so,
who would think that plate tectonics would actually add to
the you know, the chemistry to create life. Everything seems
to work together.
Speaker 9: The Earth is what they call it, the Goldilocks planet.
There's so many things that have to happen for life
to exist on Earth. It's it's remarkable.
Speaker 6: And then, last, but not least, astronomers found two super
puff planets lighter than cotton candy in space. Wow, they
look attible, don't they They do? Yes, thank you for
taking that picture. Jeff An International TAM discovered two Jupiter
sized exoplanets, to Oi seven ninety one B and t
U I seventy nine seven nine one C, about one
hundred and one hundred and eleven thousand light years away.
They are roughly Jupiter sized, but have densities of only
zero point three zero point oh three eight and zero
point oh four to seven grams per cubic centimeter, lower
than candy floss, far below Jupiter's average density. I thought
Jupiter was mainly gas.
Speaker 9: It is, but it's dense gas, dense gas, heavy gas.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that would never mind. There was a joke there,
but I'm not going there. This is only a few
multiplanets super Puff systems are known, so this is rare.
There you go. I like that super Puff That's where
I want to live Puff Planet. Yeah.
Speaker 9: Like what you have for break super Puffs?
Speaker 6: Well you could you could yeah eat it and it
would be great. Wouldn't be cool if you just yeah,
never mind? Oh sleep, all right. We next, let's do
our clips and I think that's Oh by the way,
before we do clips, let's talk about the New York
Bigfoot Conference and before tickets sell out, you're gonna want
to get your tickets. And it's for October second, October third,
and a very beautiful part of New York State. It's
not New York City, it's New York State. It's in
the mountains area of glovers Johnsonville, Gloversville, and I will
be one of the speakers, So come out. I'd love
to meet you. And we've got Steve Calls as a
town hall host. Adam Davies is one of the MC's
me Maria Mayor from Expedition Bigfoot, Lauren Coleman, who was
you know, if you haven't met Lauren, here's your chance.
He's a legend. And then Ken Gerhard who's amazing. And
then Darby Orcut from NC State.
Speaker 9: You speaking.
Speaker 6: Outdoor vendors, Jeff chili dogs food.
Speaker 9: I don't know time.
Speaker 6: I think there's indoor vendors too, but maybe not. I
don't know. I haven't been there. But Loretta Collins is
putting this on with Mark Dwarth, some great hosts. Get
your tickets. All right, clips, clip time, clip time? Hey Jeff,
you're back. That was that was like, that was a
long time. I think my chair is sinking. My new
team my t moves studio chairs. You know, I got
some helpless I got chairs. I swear to god, they're
just they're like half the size of my old one.
All right, clip one, sound is good. This is James Fox,
who's a great he does a lot of UFO productions. Uh,
he's a great producer, has a new has a new announcement.
So go ahead and play this.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 11: What mister Grush revealed to all of us what he
had seen with his own eyes left the room speechless.
It drew the oxygen out of the room. I looked
at everybody in that room, and their eyeballs were popping out.
My job was on the floor, Like I I simply
couldn't believe what he what he'd seen with his own eyes, Like, I.
Speaker 6: Can't wait for it to come out.
Speaker 11: So I asked mister Grush today, can I talk about
what I heard? And He's like, no, but I will
be addressing it very soon. So that's where we stand
right now. But I can tell you, mister Grush has
seen evidence that we'll leave you slack job when you
hear it.
Speaker 9: Interesting. Interesting, interesting. I wish you could have a little
more of a tease than that, but well, i'd leave
you slack John.
Speaker 6: I mean that's kind interesting. Yeah, are you are you
ready for aliens walking into your house?
Speaker 9: I just want to know. I want the truth. Let
us know.
Speaker 6: I heard. That's what they're so concerned about. That once
it's everything's released, the aliens are going to kind of go, well,
we don't have anything diet anymore. They're going to start
walking into people's houses.
Speaker 9: I yeah, it's it's hard to even fathom the effect
it'll have on people. I mean, it's it's unpredictable. I know,
you have no idea how it's going to affect people.
Speaker 6: Some people affect them a lot, and then those people
will affect us. Yeah, I'm not worried about the aliens.
Speaker 9: No, it'd be interesting. I'm uh, I just wanted to
come out.
Speaker 6: Like an Amazon delivery. They'll knock on your door, so
let's just go aliens let us in.
Speaker 9: Just think about wrap your head around. I think about
having your eyeballs on an actual extraterrestrial alien. That would be.
Speaker 6: It would How do you know some of us haven't
seen them already, some of.
Speaker 9: Us probably have.
Speaker 6: You can't verify that, No, it's completely unverified. All right? Next, uh,
clip to the sound is good. This is a deep
sea they call it a deep sea churo. It will
kind of give you naghmors because it's like a giant leech.
Go ahead and play this crazy because that's stuck on
your face. Yuka, Oh, I think this in the Gulper
eel are the two creepiest animals you've seen. A gulprially.
They have that huge they're like basically it looks like
a giant sperm with a huge and they can kind
of swallow their own head to try to make themselves
look bigger.
Speaker 9: Crazy Gulbriels.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll play. I'll put a Goulbriel footage next week, anyhow.
Clip three sound is good now and I'm just in on.
So this is revealing more videos, right, They've released sixty
four more videos Friday, And if you haven't looked at them,
but they're showing a bunch of them getting shot down.
And I'm thinking, make that make sense to me? Why
are they shooting down UFOs?
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 6: You don't know. You don't think about it.
Speaker 9: No, I just think about it, But I don't know.
Something's going on, all right.
Speaker 6: Go ahead.
Speaker 12: The UFO files meanwhile, keep coming. The Pentagon releasing a
fresh batch on Friday, featuring some shocking, never before seen
images and video. And this includes clusters of mysterious objects
soaring through the sky, shape shifting orbs of light lingering overseas,
even flying saucer like objects being shot down by US Forces.
News Nation's senior national correspondent, Brian Enton has more.
Speaker 13: Tonight, the Pentagon has released sixty four more additional videos
related to UFOs. This is in addition to the first
batch that was released more than a week ago. All
of this ordered by President Trump. Let me walk you
through some of the highlights some of the videos that
stood out to me. First of all, this video from
a US military censor in Syria. The videos from twenty
twenty one, and you can see what looks like a
bright sphere, sort of like a bright sphere looking orb
traveling over the surface.
Speaker 2: And look at this.
Speaker 8: At one point it actually.
Speaker 13: Picks up speed and zooms off, which is something that
experts are especially perplexed by. This next video is a
formation of UFOs over the Persian Gulf, again captured by
a military censor. There are like what looks like three
dots you can see traveling together. This video was uploaded
to a classified network in October of twenty nineteen. And
this is another video, this one from October of twenty twenty.
Looks like a little black dot traveling over a city.
We don't know exactly where it is, but again it
was captured by a military censor.
Speaker 8: Also the release today.
Speaker 13: There are some audio recordings, including one with an astronaut,
a man named Scott Carpenter.
Speaker 9: In nineteen sixty two. He was up in space when.
Speaker 13: He reported seeing particles that he described looking like snowflakes. Again,
there was no description.
Speaker 12: Natasha Brian Anson with that, thank you for more. We
are joined by Newsnation's special corresponds.
Speaker 6: You can watch it all night.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's interesting stuff.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but check it out, go to what is it
UFO dot gov.
Speaker 9: I haven't seen him all yet, but it's pretty cool stuff.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's getting start of heat up a bit. All
right then clip oh, I know what I was gonna
mention today. Just I heard that one of our jets
was shot down, and then they corrected it and said
the guy reported seen a jellyfish in the air the
pilot and then I don't know if he collided with
it and he bailed out, but he said.
Speaker 9: It was a UFO story.
Speaker 6: And of course they originally blamed it on Iranian drones
and the guy's like, it wasn't a drone or wasn't
a bunch of drones. It was like a jellyfish creature.
So and apparently he's safe. He you know, did the
canopy bailout?
Speaker 9: Okay, that's that's crazy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, anyha, all right? The water you have next four
sound is good. This is from ryan Isy Fishing. And
you got to see the teeth. Look at the size
of this fish.
Speaker 14: That right there is an Amazon giant smoke the fly
boat side. Unbelievable fight and look at those crazy teeth.
One of the most vicious predators. These giant fangs on
the bottom of their mouth are used to spear their prey,
and if you look closely, you can see that there's
a hole for each of them into their skull where
they rest, and huge fins. These fish are pure muscle.
One of the most epic predators here in the jungle.
I'm out here fishing with Payari Kingdom.
Speaker 9: Beautiful fish, one of them.
Speaker 6: Blatch on your underwear, no, thank you, all right? And
then clip five. This the sound is good. This is
just a little fish this sky caught. But man, it
the pressurized way too quick because he got it down
at eleven hundred feet. Sporting guys, just pull this up
from eleven hundred feet.
Speaker 1: I feel like I know what it's called.
Speaker 8: But I can't remember.
Speaker 6: If you guys could get.
Speaker 8: A species, I eat on this thing. This might be
the craziest fish I know.
Speaker 6: Somebody in the commons mentioned it looks like a Simpson
fish from the Simpsons. It do kind of okay, And
then clip six. The sound is good on this. This
is the sound of a baby roadrunner trying to get
fed by his mother roadrunner, and it's quite obnoxious sounding. Listen, listen,
to this, Yeah, soundtrack for a more movie.
Speaker 9: Yeah, man, if I heard that, I didn't know what
it was prehistoric, So yeah, that's uh, that's something else.
Speaker 6: That's it. That is it. And then I did I
did get a press release. So apparently Maxim Feurek, who
specializes in Western Pennsylvania weirdness, he's publicly disputing Capturing Bigfoot,
the recent documentary by filmmaker Mark Evans, and he's challenging
him to a debate publicly. So there you go.
Speaker 9: Interesting. Yeah, it's uh, the fact that that film isn't
out yet kind of says a lot in my opinion.
But yeah, we really don't till we see it. Kind
of reserve opinion until we see it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well we'll see if just Mark Evans takes him
up on debate. I would debate the guy. All right,
what you got, that's it, that's it, that's it all
we got. Now we're gonna I don't know if you
have any commercials you need to do way, and then
we're going to introduce Linda Eastbourn.
Speaker 9: Okay, excited, take a few minutes, break right back.
Speaker 1: Will Oh.
Speaker 15: Yes, they say they came with their stories, they came
with their proof.
Speaker 8: From the abolition.
Speaker 7: Hollers to the cabin crew.
Speaker 15: The New York Bigfoot Conference just offers more convincing proof.
Speaker 8: Sasquats believers.
Speaker 6: The skeptics too, under one big gerna.
Speaker 4: With a curious crew, vendor booths and chili fries, crimstit
shirt saying every size big for the room. Yes, this
seems spy him just the other day, and I.
Speaker 6: Can't believe what I just saw.
Speaker 15: It looked like a sass was shadows place, bitch forre.
Speaker 8: Don't look gooise. The man was gonna leave.
Speaker 6: Camera says he heard the howl.
Speaker 8: By a creek so quiet.
Speaker 7: You're an old church tower, w walm and saw footbrins
as big as a place. She said, I froze in
the woods. I couldn't escape. Celebrity streets, camera flash selling
big flooding mons for your money, stash big lots of.
Speaker 8: Gay suns.
Speaker 7: The year they see.
Speaker 4: Spotted him just the other day.
Speaker 7: Freel of shadows, flee.
Speaker 8: Big flottery, don't look away.
Speaker 1: Come to the New York big Foot Conference and police.
Speaker 16: Mm hmm, good du pern normal mystery stories to come
alive be mercy. Book technology can go one publishing step inside.
Speaker 8: Step inside, we're back.
Speaker 9: Talk somewhere. I'm verified. He's an unverified, verified.
Speaker 6: Day, very completely unverified. All right, Linda Eastburn, she is
over thirty years of experience intuitive arts, paranormal research, and
apparently I didn't know this about her. She developed or
was a creator of SBI technique, a creator of a
unique method for manifesting through future remote viewing. She's got
a number of publications out, author of Threshold to Encounters
exploring Bigfoot in UFO Phenomena. She's got a big media presence.
She's the host of the Linda Eastbourn YouTube channel featuring
interviews with paranormal experiences, and does a lot of research contributions,
including she founded the Midwest Research Society, leading investigative trips
into the unknown. So there you go. But that's just
a little bit of her bio. But let's bring Linda on,
all right.
Speaker 9: Welcome Linda.
Speaker 6: Hello, Hi, Hey, how are you well?
Speaker 1: Thank you?
Speaker 6: What state do you live in again, Linda?
Speaker 1: I live in Missouri, southern southern area, southern southwest.
Speaker 6: Okay, right in the middle of the US. And what's
the weather like in the middle of the US in
the summer? Is it really hot? In human or.
Speaker 1: Hummus human hot and humid right now, chrise. We just
got through a flash flood situation last week. It was
just horrendous, and then just before that it was all
the tornadoes. So we're still in some strange weather patterns
right now. Usually this time of year it's just dry.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, we had a beautiful week last week, but
now we're getting Missouri weather and it's all hot and
humid and gonna get worse every day, I guess for
a while, for like a week. Anyhow. So one of
the main questions I want to know, how did you
do you get interested in any one thing in the paranormal?
Was it Bigfoot? Was it ghosts? Was it UFOs? What
got you really hooked on this topic?
Speaker 1: It was, well, I've always been interested in the mysteries
of life, so that was a given. But back in
the late eighties early nineties, there was a UFO flat
that came through our area here and that got me
involved with a Moufin group of investigators, and because I
was working in the field of hypnosis at that time,
they decided to use me as kind of a second
person to do the hypnotic regressions with people who felt
like they had experiences. So I had a first, first
line of knowledge base with these people because they were
exploring experiences that they could remember bits and pieces of
maybe a light you know when they were young, outside
the kitchen window, or something, memory of maybe something in
their bedroom, you know, just odd things like that.
Speaker 6: So okay, well back the truck up. So you so
you're so you are a you're a hypnotist, yes, and
you do therapy on people, I would imagine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I help people to do with regressions and things like.
That's not my number one thing today, but that was
certainly something I was deeply invested in then and I
do it still today.
Speaker 6: But not I mean, does does do people know you
you advertise that? I mean, I mean, because there's there's
got to be a gillion research or not researchers, witnesses
that want it and just you know, don't know where
to get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are probably It's not as popular as it
was then. You know, there were a lot of books
that were coming out at the time. It was kind
of fat ish to to have a regression and see
what you thought. You know, it's in your mind. So
I don't have that as much today. Not not as
much now with the disco you're coming out right now,
you know, that may have a resurgence because people are
beginning to remember again because their their mind is being
jogged by all of this. That's that's coming forward.
Speaker 6: Have you regressed bigfaw witnesses?
Speaker 1: I would like to regress Bigfoot witnesses. I've been offered that,
but I haven't had anyone come forward and be willing
to do that. You know, the Bigfoot community and the
UFO community are slightly different group of people. So the
Bigfoot community is a little bit more conservative and they're
a little bit more you know, the just playing flesh
and blood type of believers. The UFO community varies a
little bit more. And even though a lot of them
are you know, yes they're into the craft and things
like that, but there's such a variety of people and
if you UFO community that want to know if they've
had an experience. Also, Bigfoot doesn't seem to be abducting people.
You know, in the UFO community, people feel like that
they have been taken aboard a ship and taken somewhere
and bizarre thing happened to them. They may have a
physical exam and with big floot. They don't feel like
those things are happening to them, right, they were kind
of agenda motivation.
Speaker 6: Well, I had a chance, Linda to witness. We flew
in a bunch of witnesses, double witnesses, and we had
a therapist hypnotize all these people to regress their their
interaction because apparently these people had a very traumatic experience.
Either they were really young when it happened, felt really
in danger. But I want to tell you it was
so powerful, the amount of screaming and tears and things
that I got to see firsthand, and we filmed it
for Legending Science. It was amazing. I wouldn't even mind
talking to you about doing another section in getting some volunteers,
which of course have to be highly vetted in order,
you know, to make sure that would they would be
good candidates for it, But i'd be well, I'd love
to talk to you about maybe doing another group of people.
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, facinating experience.
Speaker 6: Every single one had new details and that's where it was.
Were you here Jeff for some of that? Oh you were,
Oh yeah, that's right, and yeah that was it was amazing.
But yeah, I to talk to you about that Linda, Okay,
and so yeah, and so if you're in the audience
and you think you've had a traumatic experience, yeah, get
a hold of me. We'll get you on at least
get you on a list.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 6: So I didn't mean to just barge in there and
kind of screw up your flow, but I just didn't
know that about you, that you were doing that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, lots of things.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you really, I mean you really kind of go
at everything from a whole bunch of different directions. And so,
can you give us a little bit of a maybe
something you heard during therapy from somebody not giving me
any names or anything. Was there something that really convinced
you that all of this paranormal activity or UFO activity
is real?
Speaker 1: You know, I think their experience was real. They definitely
had the emotional depth with the experience, fear trauma, you know,
all of that to convince me that whatever they experienced,
it was definitely a real experience and weren't making this
stuff up. It was just they they were not. So
I guess that convinced me. With the UFOs, I always
kind of believed there were UFOs out there, so it
didn't take much to convince me of UFOs as far
as their experiences go. However, being abducted.
Speaker 8: Was new to me.
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I heard someone say this
was so far fetched. Someone was in my house talking
about UFOs and they said they were driving down the
road in a car and the entire car was taken
up into a craft. And I'm thinking, that's the most
ridiculous thing I've ever heard, and I just did not
believe that. I absolutely did not believe that. And then
as years went by and I was in the community
much more, I started hearing that sort of thing more
and more and more, and I realized, well, maybe that
is true, you know, I don't know, So the stories
got more bizarre, and the belief that I had stretched
a lot farther, you know, because I realized we were
dealing with some kind of a reality, perhaps that we
don't understand.
Speaker 6: Have you ever, Cayus, have you ever had any kind
of paranormal crypton encounter that kind of turned you on
even more, gets you more involved?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, probably. Just a couple of months after I
got involved with Muffon, I was out. I grew up
in the country, so I was out in the country
at a relative's house, and it's pretty remote. There wasn't
a house in sight. You know, if you went down
the road a little ways, you'd buy see a house,
but not where I was sitting. So it was around
ten thirty at night. It was dark out, and my
husband was talking to my brother in law, so he
was back in a garage or someplace where were getting
ready to leave and they have something he wanted to
show himself. I'm just sitting there in our vehicle and
I'm looking across the road into a field, and the
field was an open pasture, and then just beyond that,
just a little bit of an elevation, was a tree line.
Not much behind that tree line, but I saw this
orange light back there, just above the tree line, and
I'm thinking, well, maybe that's an airplane that's going to
go on over, But it didn't. It just stayed still,
and I watched this for probably ten to fifteen minutes,
and then suddenly it just slowly went down behind the
tree lines. Kind of an unusual maneuver for this orange light.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 1: I didn't think too much about it until See that
was a Thursday night, and I think it was Sunday.
I was at my in law's house, and they knew
the people who owned that particular farm right there, and
the people who owned the farm to the left and
the farm to the right, and it was not publicly known.
If I had not known these people, and if they
had not been well versed with the neighbors, I probably
would never have found this out. But there was a
cow mutilated in the field right there where I was looking,
And there was also a cow mutilated to the farm
to the left and the farm to the right. Now,
they blew this off as some kind of cult, you know,
killing and things like that. I didn't see the animals.
I don't know if they were the typical animal mutilation
or not. But I just found it kind of odd
that as I'm watching this, you know, there's a cow's
being mutilated that night in the same Wow.
Speaker 6: It's kind of a coincidence, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And now my mother in law as well as
that same brother in law both saw something more significant
than that. My mother was fourth or four thirty in
the afternoon. It wasn't far from this very same site here.
She was just taking a walk down the road. It
was just a you know, blacktop road, you know, not
a lot of traffic, but not terribly rual either, and
she turned that car passed her by, so when she
knew she turned around to wave at them. And she
noticed that as they turned this this curve, it was
a tee intersection that there was this metallic thing didn't
make any noise, and it was moving very slowly across
that intersection, and it was very bright, very shiny, was
about the size of an automobile. She said, four thirty
in the afternoon. I mean it was you know, it
wasn't dark. It wasn't you know. And her neighbor was
with her neighbor. She got her attention. She didn't see
it went behind some trees before that. This is the
weird thing about that one, though, because it could have been,
you know, anything maybe. But she called her neighbor in
a few days and asked her if she saw anything,
because they would have been visually capable of seeing that intersection.
They were not far from there. And her neighbor said, now,
you know, they weren't home at that time of day.
But the weird thing was that night they looked out
on their pasture in this farm country. They looked out
side out the back of their house and in the
pasture back there's some distance from the house. There was
a light on the ground. That's very highly unusual. It
would have been very highly unusual the same night that
she saw this unusual craft. And then just up the
road from that, my brother in law when one day
he was leaving for work really early in the morning,
and you know, it was like three two thirty three
in the morning, very early. He pulled out, he saw
a light in the distant eastern sky and he thought, well,
that was strange, but you know, it's just a bright
light some distance away. He turned a curve and suddenly
this light was shining down, just completely illuminating his automobile,
and he rolls down his window. He doesn't hear anything,
he turns off his automobile. Nothing, he can hear nothing,
but it's like this bright light coming down on him.
And as very quickly it turned off. He couldn't see anything,
he couldn't hear anything. He just went on to work
and he didn't tell anyone until we started talking about
my mother's experience just down the road, and then he
started talking about seeing this light. So those are close
to home, you know, relatives seeing things. My sister also
saw an unusual light. One night, she was staying at
her in law's house and they lived way way back
off the road, you know, the long lane to their house,
and she saw a light out there. They were spending
the night. They were just kind of house setting for
her in laws. I think she and her husband and
young daughter. And she looks outside and there's this bright
light at the window, and she's thinking, she's thinking, well,
you know, who would that be, what would it be?
She wakes up her husband and this like those you know,
some distance down a way, and then suddenly it's back
at the window and some distance away. I'm back at
the window just within a few seconds. It was an
unusual than So he gets up, turns on the porch light.
No light is seen, and they turned the light back off.
No light is scene. They decided to just go home
and leave the house to be But that was an
unusual thing too, And it was all in the same area.
And now the really weird thing is that same community,
that very same community. This was back in the seventies
when it was like Bigfoot wasn't a very popular subject
in the seventies. You know, nobody knew what bigfoot was.
They might have heard of it, but you know, it
wasn't mainstream. You know, it wasn't anything anyone was talking about.
But there were two farms close by, and this one
farmer was coming into town the little community store and
such an talking about something must have escaped the zoo
because there was this thing. He said, it looked kind
of like a monkey, but you know, it was an unusual, big,
you know like creature that he'd seen several times on
his farm. And then the man right across the road,
that farmer, he also was reporting seen this unusual thing.
So this was all happening within I'd call it, you know,
it's like within a ten mile radius. The orange light.
I saw the light, you know, over the vehicle, my
mother seeing the UFO craft, the unusual light coming and
going from the window. And then these two bigfoot creatures
that were on these farms were all happening in the
same vicinity.
Speaker 6: Wow. Have you ever had anything invade your private space
at home when you're young, or the ghost or anything
that you've seen.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a ghost at all. I owned a
house one time that was haunted, but it was a
rental property. It was an investment that we purchased and
it had some winters in it, and they talked about
the ghost that was there. They had things that moved
around in the house, and the house was so haunted
that all the neighbors knew it. And a woman had
comitted suicide apparently in the addict of the house, and
they suspected that was why it was haunted. Now, we
didn't own the house very long, and we didn't sell
it because it was haunted. But we didn't own it
for very long, and it even made the news when
Halloween because it was so haunted and we had the
whole community knew it.
Speaker 6: But not for you.
Speaker 1: No, I have no no, I'm going to take that back.
I had one experience and it was it was something
I can't, you know, put my finger on but exactly
what happened. But it was one night when I there
were a couple of ladies at my house. I was
sitting on the floor, A couple of ladies were in
the house, and we were all just talking about this
and that, you know, we were all into kind of
paranormal things though, and all of a sudden, and this
was unusual. I felt something kind of unusual behind my
back in this corner of the room, the living room,
and I felt uncomfortable enough that I got up, sat
on the sofa and just mentioned, well, that's odd because
I feel this kind of strangeness behind my back. One
of the women there said she saw something moving around back,
or just kind of energy of some sort. You didn't
know what it was, but there.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: I was working as a hypnotherapist at the time, and
the next day a man comes to my house for
if no secession. I don't know this man. He comes
in the living he comes in the hallway, and he stops.
He's looking around the house, and I'm thinking, you know,
should I run out the front door or something, because
he's not behaving normally. So then he goes into my
family room, looks outside, comes back. He's not saying anything,
and he puts his hands across his chest and suddenly
he said, I think my father used to own this house.
And it's like, okay, that's interesting, and then he pointed
to that very corner that I felt that uneasiness, and
my friend had seen that energy movement back there, and
he said, and he died right there in a chair,
And so I thought that was really confirming that you know,
something was going on in bettery. That's the only time
that that's the only time that I've had anything in
my house, but I could feel that. There was another
time a woman came for hypnosis to another in another
house that I was living at, and that morning before
she got there, she's coming in the afternoon. I had
this little there was this little cutout like window like
thing in my kitchen that looked across to the formal
living room, and I was doing some things in the kitchen,
and just several times I would think that there was
some one standing in the corner of the living room
and I'd look and I didn't see anything, but I
got this impression of something tall, and it was like
a dark figure. And I would think, well, is my
husband here? And I knew he had already left, he
wasn't home, but I just got this sense there was
this tall, dark figure in the corner. I saw that
maybe three or four times. Didn't think too much about it.
But when the lady got there, we're in that very
same room and she begins by talking about her childhood,
and she said she grew up with this very tall,
dark figure that would just lean over her at night
and I'm thinking in my mind, so, well, I think
he showed up this morning because I was seeing something
that looked a lot like she was describing, and I
didn't see it with my eyes. It was always at
the corner of my eye, and it was always very brief,
and when I would look at it straight on, it
wasn't there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess, I guess you call those shadow people.
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, it never it wasn't there after she left,
So it was just that brief Brie that I saw.
Speaker 6: So I'm going to ask you what if question, Linda?
So what if? What does Linda Eastbourn do? And she
walks around the corner in her kitchen and there's an
alien standing there? Are you afraid? Are you excited? Are
you what are you going to do?
Speaker 1: I'm going to be startled. First of all, I would
just be totally startled. I don't think I would have
any kind of preparation I had in advance to know
what to do. I've heard so many stories about aliens,
and no, so many people have had experiences with aliens
that and such a variety of experiences. Pretty much, you know,
you don't have a lot of control in that situation.
You know, whatever they want to do is what they're
going to do, So that's that's I don't know. I
think it would be very startled. I think I would
probably be a little bit in shock, and I would
probably just stand there and wait to see what they're
going to do, because I know I would probably wouldn't
have a lot of control.
Speaker 6: Well, what are what is Linda afraid of? Could you
deal with this weird stuff every day every week? Every
day every week? But what what gives you? I mean,
do you have a fear because of what you know?
Walking in the woods alone? You have a fear of
you know, the dark? I mean do you ever do
you sleep with a night light? Do you not? I mean,
I'm just kind of curious.
Speaker 9: Were you?
Speaker 1: Very few things scare me? Now I can say when
we were filming by Ways of Bigfoot out by the
Niegua River, I would go out there film alone in
daytime because we needed the footage. You know, we just
needed nature shots. We needed, you know, all of these shots.
So I would just go out there by myself and
walk the trail and get some imagery that we needed
the photos. So, you know, at that time, I did
not think one single thing about doing that it was
it seemed it was a very peaceful experience. I love
the woods, I love nature.
Speaker 9: So but when we.
Speaker 1: Started actually taking the group out there and getting more
deeply invested in looking for evidence, we started finding evidence.
And it was a part of me that thought you
were a little of a risk taker to go out
there by yourself, you know, and no one even knew
I was there, you know, and to do that filming alone.
So I guess I would be a little bit evident
today to not take someone with me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but you're not over it. See, I'm a
scaredy can now because of what I've seen, you know.
I just yeah, I'm a little more jumpy, a little
more afraid to do things alone. You know. We've seen
some weird stuff through the years, you know, not mine,
you know what I mean, really space to part years
and years apart, but you know that stuff doesn't go away.
When I have to take the garbage out, my head's
on a swivel, only because I'm alone. It's dark, and
I've seen things, you know. It's like, I just yeah,
it's sounds terrible. I to admit that stuff. But when
I was with somebody, I'm brave as Welle For some
weird reason. It's like, if you're going to die, you
need a witness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I haven't seen enough that's frightened me.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: Even though I saw, you know, these odd things, they
were brief moments and I did. Yeah, they didn't put
me into a state of fear. I just really haven't
been exposed to that, have you.
Speaker 6: I mean, okay, do you ever go out looking for trouble?
As they say, a.
Speaker 1: Little bit but not much? Yeah, you know, I put
myself in positions. You know, I've been in huge groups
the Midwest Research Society. We did travel groups, you know,
to look for UFO spots and you know, to try
to get ce a UFO basically is what we were
looking for.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: I've been in all kinds of remote places, you know,
and heard all kinds of strange things. But it just
doesn't seem to Nothing seems to happen, you know when
we try to create that. Now I can say once
I created this experiment to see if we could project
a UFO and be able to get a picture of
one just from our mental projection.
Speaker 6: And that's SPI technique. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, it was long before that, so it's one that
I just came up with on my own because I
was doing a lot of this. I just got this
idea that some of these experiences may be kind of
our own interaction with what every So I got a
grip together and they didn't know what we were doing.
So there was this silhouette. It was kind of a
UFO shape to the silhouette that they were to look
at every day for a certain period of time. And
then we gathered on a Sunday afternoon, nice beautiful day,
some clouds in the sky, and we just went outside,
looked into the sky, imagined the same shape, and I
just took about fifty pictures, just bam bam, bam, bam bam.
This is before digital and this was just take pictures
of the clouds. We didn't see anything. When I got
them developed, however, there was this very unusual kind of
grayish like saucer shape in every picture, and it had
this kind of ring around the center of it. Now
you know, it was still looked like a cloud basically,
but it did stand out. It stood out from the
other clouds, and it did have that shape to it
that was and it was darker it was. It was
kind of a grayish color. The rest of the clouds
were more of a white, fluffy cloud. So we did
do that. But you know, and some of that group
I'm still in contact with, and we just decided yesterday
to go back out and see if we can repeat that,
see if we can get anything more definite keyword group. Yes. Yes.
Speaker 6: Could you imagine the going out walking, parking your car,
walking out into a field at one in the morning,
and doing whatever this uh technique is alone with them?
Would that scare you a bit? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that at neither. I don't think I would.
Speaker 6: I just cares how brave you are. I was trying
to figure out how chick and I am by comparison. So, gosh,
let's talk about UFO disclosure just a bit. Are you disappointed?
Are you excited? What's you know? And what's currently going on?
Speaker 1: I think most of what is being disclosed right now,
anyone in the UFO community pretty much already knows that.
So there's no newness to any of the disclosed or
at this point. I mean, it's the interesting thing is
kind of behind the scenes, is why why are we
getting this information? Where's this going to go? I mean,
I think most of the time, since there's it's been
under wraps for such a long time, you know, trying
to convince people that it doesn't exist at all. Why
are we suddenly promoting this so heavily and releasing this?
You know, is it just for our own knowledge base?
Or is there some strange manipulation of the American people?
You know, are many people to you know, there is
there something that's going to come along with this? I
guess that's my deeper questions.
Speaker 6: In other words, you're thinking about there's some hidden agenda.
Speaker 1: Possibly, you know, I don't know what. Why else? Because
why now?
Speaker 6: Why?
Speaker 1: Why would it just suddenly come out?
Speaker 6: It is odd? Yeah, I do find it odd. I've
asked myself that too. Is it because the whistle blowers
have come forward? And I'm kind of like, now, there's
been whistleblowers forever?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Right. I remember watching whistleblowers back in the sixties, and
I'd watch those pieces of those clips of footage over
and over and over as a young guy. But yet
nothing really came of it other than the skeptics are
still very skeptic. You know, a lot of people see
these little things darting around that they're releasing on the videos,
and they're like, it's just a blown So it's just
you know, they're still don't believe it. So what do
you think there? Do you think they're interdimensional? Do you
think they're from other places? Do you think it's both?
Speaker 1: I mean, it could be both, but for the most part,
and this may be a bias on my part, and
I do a lot of remote viewing, a lot of
psychic church and over the years, I think what I've
seen is that they're probably constantly around us. We just
don't have the perception skills to be aware of them,
to see them. I think when we do have perception,
it may be a combination of things either. You know,
somebody presented this on a podcast I was listening to
the other day, and I've never thought of it before.
But you know, just as you know scientifically, you know,
as we observe something, you know, we can collapse away.
Then he's thinking, maybe something about consciousness can collapse whatever
causes them to be hidden so that we might see them,
And then it goes back, of course, and we don't
see them aymore. I think they're everywhere. The best description
that came to me was they're like bacteria. We don't
see bacteria with our naked eye, but it's everywhere, So
I think they're everywhere, we just don't have knowledge of them.
Speaker 6: Well that makes sense, I mean that does. The question
is why does some of us see them? Some of
us never do, some of us never even know people
that do, and some of us meet tons of people
that do. It seems black and white, and it really
always kind of freaks me out, Like, Jeff, you've never
seen a UFO, and why I could honestly say I've
seen over three hundred, and how does one guy zero
and me three hundred? And I'm not talking about Look,
I'm as big as of a skeptic as anybody. I'm
talking about closed UFOs. I'm talking about fifty feet away,
thirty feet, ten feet, five feet. God. My first thing
was I was nineteen, probably about nineteen seventy four or five.
I was driving and there was something I thought was
like a big chandelier over the intersection on this kind
of deserted road called con Rapids Boulevard. And as I
get closer, I'm like, why did they put a chandelier
over the you know, like, that's kind of weird over
this intersection. It was blinding, and I kept driving towards it, thinking, well,
where's the where's it hanging from? I actually thought they
were upgrading intersections with bright lights, so I got closer.
When I kept getting closer and I see this domed,
this like glass clear dome, and this pretty saucer shaped bottom,
and it's just stuck there. There's no I'm looking, there's
no poll. Then I think it's a hoax. So I
started invest driving really slow, going okay, who's hoaxing me?
And then when I got really close to it, and
I got out of my car and looked up at it.
I mean it was ten feet above the ground, so
it wasn't very high, and it freaked me out. When
I looked at it and realized what I was looking
at was real. I got in my car and took off,
got to a safe distance, and then watched it across
the road. But that was in the seventies, so I've
had this closser since. And then I don't know what
it was right, completely unverified, but I know it was real,
and that haunted me forever. And then, you know, I
kept seeing just things like that just kept happening. So
I don't know, I don't know what it means. But yeah,
there's nothing in the disclosure so far that I feel
like is new info. How about the twist, Linda, what
are your thoughts on the twist of one? The interdimensional
kind of like the whole government, most of the senators
are kind of, you know, hinting towards they're not space travelers,
they're interdimensional. And then the talk that the people that
are claiming they're in the know, they say it's so
horrible that they're not going to even tell their families.
That gets so depressing and so icky. What are your
thoughts on that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: There again, I'm pretty open minded about what's going on.
You know, I think that there may be some control
factors with this, with the people, the American people, or
there may be control factors in that the means maybe
in control. You know, when you're in the UFO community,
you hear every conspiracy theory possible, and I just have
to be open minded about it. And you know, since
aliens really are not in my backyard and they're not
interfering that as far as I can tell with me,
so so you know, I can I'm allowed to be objective.
You know, I'm not seeing these things and they're not
entering my home and doing all these things. But if
there's a bigger agenda, you know that the aliens have,
you know, of some sort. It seems almost like and
I had a group yesterday and we were talking about
this very thing, that it seems like there's something about
this kind of another level of interaction that may be
attempting to occur. Now, whether that interaction is going to
be real and it's a reality that we're being prepared for,
or whether it's going to be some kind of a
delusional hopes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what do they call it? Operation we've all heard about.
I don't know if it's real. It's unverified Bluebeam project Bluebeam,
it's going to be holographic UFOs projected in the sky
and kind of an invasion to kind of get more
control over us.
Speaker 9: But then that sell, of.
Speaker 6: Course that is, of course it is. And then and
then I wonder, and I don't know, if you've thought
about this, how much does the government know about I
would imagine you believe the Bigfoots are real because of
all the countless witnesses in sightings, But is it possible
the government wouldn't be studying that, just like they said
they weren't studying UFOs forever. And you know, of course
we've all come to learn at least that that they've
never stopped collecting data on UFOs. Do you think they're
collecting data on the oh? I do.
Speaker 1: I do think. I think the biggest thing with Bigfoot
is that would be the inconvenience of letting the public know,
because then there would be outcry of this and that
and some sense of responsibility toward them. And I think
it's easier to ignore that than it would be to
acknowledge it and deal with it now. And maybe that
was true of UFOs too, you know, it was just
more trouble than it was worth to even begin to
introduce this into society. But there may be something coming
down the line between UFOs and our government, or UFOs
and human beings that we don't know about. I mean,
I don't know. It's it's weird. A lot of the
people that I hypnotized back in especially the nineties early
two thousands, you know, they were often in the process
of being abducted. They wasn't just the physical exams. Oftentimes
they were being taught things. They were being shown how
to drive the craft. They were being shown that there
would come a point in time or they would need
to assist people in getting on the craft or go
off planet. I don't know if it was some kind
of unnatural disaster that was happening, or a new class
or whatever, but they were being shown things and taught
things in case they needed to do this. So I mean,
was that just you know, the save of the world
syndrome in their own mind, or was this a reality
that the aliens were teaching them. Was this some kind
of an event that's coming up?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 1: Is there a need for us to know this?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 1: I don't know, But I'd have to take all of
that and put it into a box of consideration and
and why do we do it?
Speaker 5: And what about Okay, I guess my opinion is is
why would they at least have some little.
Speaker 6: Group in the government. I mean, they have endless money
to just study the Bigfoot mystery and probably have never
stop because like if if, whether you think they're there's
some kind of interdimensional creatures or there's a relationship with
UFOs or there's a flush of blood, I mean, all
of it you would think would interest the government. Every
bit of those you would think.
Speaker 1: So it seems like with Bigfoot, I don't know what
are they going to study with Bigfoot other than they're
just there. You know. With the UFOs, it seems like
there's a much broader piece of information there, you know,
like stopping nuclear weapons, you know, showing up around, you know,
warships and you know there's shot shooting.
Speaker 6: Them down Lindon collecting the degree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, that's true. I mean there's all kinds
of things with it. Yeah, that you don't care about
that with with Bigfoot, it's just kind of like in
the woods. Leave them there, don't bother them. Yeah, we
know they're there, But I.
Speaker 6: Do wonder if they're gathering data on all of the sightings.
You know, how often they visit the bfr O. Do
they listen to podcasts? You know what I mean? Do
they listen to Linda Eastbourn. I would think they would
be on your show every week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I've done five hundred or so interviews
on Bigfoot so far, and when I was doing that,
but this is the difference when I was doing the UFO,
when we did the research group as well as when
I was doing the hypnosis. This was a weird thing.
People started showing up, and I wouldn't say they were
government people, but they started showing up and weird things
started happening. My phone was bugged, my whole family started
getting hang up calls as well as I did. This
is whenever I was doing the hypnosis with people who
had abductions, you know, and it stopped. You know, I
wasn't doing that as much, but they've never been interested
in the Bigfoot thing. You know, no one's no one's
showing up at my door for that. But but before,
when I was doing the UFO stuff, there seemed to
be an effort to discourage me from you know, moving
forward and doing it. It didn't discourage me, but it
was odd stuff. There were just really odd things happening
in my world at that time. That seemed as if
there was intention to deter me from doing the hypnosis
stuff with people it'd had deductions. I'm not sure what
it would accomplish, but they were definitely present in my world.
Speaker 6: So you really did feel like they were just somebody
was watching, harassing, yeah, trying to get you to stop
doing what you were doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was subtle. I mean one morning the phone
my mother called, she hung up. I hear something. I
hung on and it was obvious. I could hear something
moving in a distant you know kind of office or something.
Could hear footsteps. I could hear a drawer open. I
could hear all these things for about ten minutes. And
there was This was back in the eighties or late eighties,
early nineties, so you know, we didn't have digital stuff
back then. There was the old tape recorders would do
a click when it turned, you know, click cleek.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I could hear that the whole time, and it
was about ten minutes or so. I could hear that
the whole time, and then suddenly there was a big
and it stopped. That night was our move On meeting,
and I went to the moove On meeting. They showed
a video and in the video it was it was
Wendell Stevens doing a documentary down in Georgia somewhere, and
he said that night they had the whole crew, each
you know, with their own individual motel.
Speaker 6: He was he was one of the original whistleblowers, because
didn't he say that he had re filmed UFOs with
his camera gun on his he was wasn't he a pilot?
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure about Wendell's personal research, So yeah, yeah,
this was just this was just a video that they
were showing that of him. But all of these people
had motel rooms, and that night they they had I
had hang up calls started two fifteen, three one fifteen,
two fifteen, three fifteen, all the way through the night.
And the next day they went down and nothing had
gone through the switchboard downstairs, no calls had gone through there. Well,
that night I went home and this is the same night,
This is the same night that that morning I'd had
the phone call that I could hear the tape recorder
and all that, and went to sleep, and you know,
twelve fifteen, I'd get a hang up call one fifteen,
two fifteen, So you know, someone was at that meeting
that night, someone knew that they had you know, my
phone was bug that morning, and someone was letting me know,
you know that that they were doing the same thing
to me that happened in the video. It was that
sort of thing, that kind of repetition thing that that
would happen, and then people would call and say they
didn't call. They call them back. It was a government office.
You know, I say, Okay, what's going on. You know,
I'm not doing anything other than regression work with these
people and certainly not getting any kind of information that
seemed vital to anything, so that it was just weird.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it definitely sounds like they were hassling you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 6: This has happened twice when I talked to my daughter
on the phone. When we talk about UFOs, we will
hear this conversation is being recorded, will come across. And
me and Adam did a thing where we tried to
simulate what it would take to do that, because I
know the phones have that capability now, but it's quite
a process to get that to happen. And then when
we would talk about family stuff, it would end, we'd
hear a little beep and it would end, and then
when we started talking about UFOs, it would start again.
But that happened on two different nights. It's just, yeah,
it's like coincidence. I don't know, it's kind of hot.
It freaked her out more than me, even.
Speaker 8: A little bit.
Speaker 6: But yeah, you just kind of wonder. And some people
joined a little bit late and they want to know
whether you've ever hypnotized a big Foot witness, and the
answer is not yet.
Speaker 1: I'm happy to. I would love to do.
Speaker 6: She wants to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And so I'm going
to in fact, doctor Linda at some point here soon
about maybe doing that. Yeah, flying up here and getting
I don't know. It takes time because you have to
kind of I know, you have to do a lot
of prep work with them. You just don't, you know,
grab somebody and lay them down and hypnotize them. It
doesn't work that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have to feel comfortable with you, and they
have to they have to personally. A lot of people
think that the hypnotists actually causes that to happen. It's
actually the person's willingness to follow the suggestions, and if
they feel uncomfortable in any ways, it's difficult for them
to drop down into those Alvin wings.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the hypnotist we had, her name is true May.
She spent a long time with each witness. It was
quite a long process, and there was even concerns like
they don't want to like do anything to create any
post traumatic stress on somebody, and on and on. I mean,
it was amazing. I didn't know. It was kind of
an education for me. But the results, I will say,
we're spectacular. They were surprising anyhow, So do you feel
that bigfoot is have some kind of relationship of some
sort with UAPs or do you think they're two separate things.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, but I can tell you the
information that I do have. You know, some of the
military remote viewers, they remote viewed a lot of you
post stuff, and they remote viewed a lot of planets,
and they saw one planet and they describe the entities
that occupied this planet as looking like Bigfoot. So there's that.
The other thing is, you know, about fifty percent of
the people that I interview, out of maybe five hundred
or so interviews that I've done, have had some form
of a UFO encounter as well as a bigfoot en country.
That could be just because they're able to perceive things
like you, you know that they're able to see a
UFO that I can also see a Bigfoot. They're just
have more perceptive in that regard. I don't know, So,
you know, it could be that there's some relationship there,
but there's definitely a relationship in how they behave in
that you know, bigfoot seems to be able to disappear
and aliens seem to be able to just appear and disappear.
Those are likenesses that they both seem to have. So
that's the correlation. I would put in that the experiences
seem to be somewhat related in that way.
Speaker 6: The weirdness, I mean, I hear the weirdness all the time,
I personally haven't experienced a ton of weirdness. I've seen
orbs and bigfoot areas and you know, but I've never
really been like, you know, big bigfoots for sure, you know, supernatural.
But Adam, we're doing a research project project and Adam
was staying at a remote home and he was alone,
and during that night the home got pounded on. He said,
it was insane. It was like the house was a
bass drum. It was pounded violently. It was loud. And
yet we had a recorder on outside because he was
going to set up a bunch of cameras the next day,
and there was nothing recorded, Linda. And yet you can
hear him putting it out, you can hear him picking
it up and that. But on the side of the
home damage on brand new sighting was all pounded in
fifteen foot up, so it doesn't like he imagined it right, right,
but it didn't record. Now, normally, you know, audio does
really good job recording, but that night nothing was and
so it's a it's a it's a real mystery, especially
doing you know, an audio expert like that, he's really confused.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, that's that's true of like people who
would put up cameras in their bedroom because they felt
like they were going to be abducted or you know,
and the cameras would just go off during that period
of time. They just didn't didn't work. I did a
research trip to Puerto Rico once and took me lots
of a camera equipment that we were all we're kind
of in remote areas, you know, not closed to any place,
and all my batteries were drained. You know, it's like
we couldn't couldn't do anything. So there's some kind of
interference sometimes with electronic equipment, both with the UFOs, and
it does seem to be true also at times around Bigfoot.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's just it's a crazy mystery, right,
it is. And I'd be the last guy to say
I know anything I've been researching going on. It's getting
close to forty years, and I've been made a fool
of for forty years, and so that alone is kind
of paranormal in some ways, if you think about it.
They seem to always find a way no matter what
we do, what we try. We were up at so growth.
We had cameras really low and camouflaged, and we'd spent
the whole day putting like moss and all sorts of things,
and these little tiny cameras, and we hit them all low.
That night, a rock hits one of the cameras and
then I hear it live and then we were all quiet.
Another rockets another camera. Another rockets another camera, and we're
actually experiencing that now at this news site, getting a
lot of rock throws that are you know, hitting right
near the camera or the camera itself. And yeah, we
still haven't gotten our you know, our subject, you know
what I mean. It's just it's like, how smart can
they be?
Speaker 1: So what do you think of the same thing with
the same thing with UFOs? I mean, you know, it's
just really impossible to get a picture of an alien.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: It seems like just they don't happen.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I personally don't think there's any authentic pictures or
video of aliens. Maybe there is, but I just I
look at that stuff and I go, that's a puppet
or you know, that's that's animation or whatever. I just
haven't seen anything that was convincing. Like if you remember
the Alien Autopsy show, and what do you think of that?
I mean, I thought it was just amazingly fake, But
maybe it isn't, you.
Speaker 9: Know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's hard to say, but I kind of had that
same impression. I just really didn't think that that was
probably authentic.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so I don't know. This mystery is just baffling.
But yet I don't ever want to give up, because
that's I mean, you're never going to get anything if
you give up, right.
Speaker 9: Well, we're not going to ever turn our curiosity off.
We're curious people.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, Do you think your curiosity, Linda has led
to a lot of you know, friendships and learning and
like just completely enhanced your life.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just love it. I like the mystery,
you know, and it's an ongoing mystery, and it's it's
you know, with every person you talk to, there's another
little niche of information. So yeah, it's it's it's very fascinating.
I think it's more just my personality, you know. I
just I enjoyed the search, and like I've told some
of my guests, I said, you know, if we do
find a big foo, you know what's going to happen.
We're all going to be disappointed because we won't have
a reason to get on these shows anymore. It's gonna
be found. So I think the mysteries might drives everyone.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like you know, like somebody's saying, respectfully so that
he won't trick a spirit creature. He could be absolutely right.
I don't know, But I also don't see the harm
in trying to trick a spirit creature, you know, because
I don't think anything is perfect. I don't training creature
is perfect. They're all got faults, and maybe one day
they're gonna go, hey, you know what, I'm gonna get
a high checked the best damn video ever because he's
gonna do something good with it, you know what I mean.
We you know, I just don't know what to I
don't know what to think about all of the times
I've been fooled and tricked by these things. It's like
the coyote chase and the road runner. I'm definitely uh,
I'm definitely the coyote fail fail fail. Okay. Somebody had asked,
it's it's kind of an interesting question. What is the
cemetery connection with cryptins? Have you ever thought about that? Linda?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had an introduction to that actually before I
got involved with Bigfoot that a friend of mine was
a cryptid researcher and he was talking about all of
the all of you know, the correlation between these cemeteries
and some of the you know, the bigfoot dog man
that sort of thing. But also I used to have
a radio show called Anomalies and Ted Phillips was my
my co host, and he knew Ted, Yeah, you knew Ted.
Speaker 6: He was the evidence. He was amazing.
Speaker 1: He was a hardcore evidence based guy. And you know
we did that show together for about a year.
Speaker 9: Wow.
Speaker 1: And you know, he did the Marley Woods thing, you
know that that all of the research thats to going
on there at Marley Woods, and he described something that
that was you know, Bigfoot was there. You know, they
they saw a bigfoot going into a frozen on a
frozen lake and then it just disappeared, you know, and
the footprints went on the lake and then it just
stopped in midstream. So but he talked a lot about
you know, there was a UFO activity there for sure.
There was a lot of bizarre light flashes and you know,
radiation and things like that also on that that property
he was researching. But he also talked about, you know,
the bigfoot correlation with with the cemetery. There was a
cemetery on that property that they were that they were researching,
I believe, and there was this line of skinwalkers, dog
man whatever they were. They looked like dogs, but there
was a line of them in a row walking upward
this hill towards the cemetery on that property. I just
thought that was the most interesting, you know, fascinating visual,
you know that they got they different things would happen.
He would go out there and stay at the property
and just at a little cabin and just the most
bizarre things would happen. But yeah, there was a cemetery there,
and there was all this weirdness around the cemetery too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's been too many to kind of just write
them off as coincidence. And then of course I've thought, well,
cemeteries are usually kind of wooded around there because people
don't necessarily want to live next to a cemetery, and
that's that's a possibility. But man, the there's so many
stories they're just hard to ignore. Well, of all the cryptids,
is there any of them that you think is just bs?
Do you have any bs and you at all into
or yeah? Pretty much.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty open minded because you know, I don't if
I don't have proof that they don't exist, then I
give all possibilities that they could exist. I guess these
flying things, you know, like butt them offman kind of thing.
You know that that's where things probably least believable to me,
not that they can't exist, but I've heard of some
that are just gigantic, And I'm thinking, you know that
it's not that they can't hide somewhere. Maybe they do
just come in and out of our reality.
Speaker 6: I don't know those we would have to. Yeah, I
used to think exactly like you did. It's got to
be bs. And then me and Event are driving south
and thirty five W were approaching Moose Lake area and
it's a clear night and we see a shiny thing
up by the moon and it dropped straight down and
almost level with the road, just dropped like a spider
on a web. Just suddenly just stopped and headed right
for my windshield. And it got closer, and we didn't
know what we were looking at. And then it's it got,
you know, close enough where the headlights lit it up.
We could see it was like a humanoid with wings
like bat wings, wider than the freeway, and then it
just zoomed over the top of the car. She hit
the ground, you know, hit ducked, I guess. Then I
finally ducked too, because I thought it was coming through
the windshield. And then you're like, what the hell was that.
Speaker 1: I had interviewed someone just the other day that described
something exactly like that that happened to them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, same thing that swooped. Do you want to tell
us about it real quickly?
Speaker 1: That was pretty much it, because some people all think
I'm nuts. Yeah, it was an area that they had
seen a bigfoot in that same vicinity as a country road.
You know, they were young, they were teenagers, I think,
and they were just driving out in the country and
they've seen a bigfoot some maybe year or two before,
and they're driving there's five of.
Speaker 6: Them in the car.
Speaker 1: They all saw it. It's this winged creature. It comes
flying right at their car, and they saw the face
up close. It had kind of a stretched dark mouth,
but it looked like a man, but wings were at
least at least five six feet apart, and it came
right at their windshield and they went over top of
the car. And that one startled all of them. The
bigfoot didn't didn't frighten the driver, the one I was interviewing.
But this thing, I mean, it was a very very
scary thing. Now this is another thing though in that
same area. This was really weird because time loss seems
to also be correlated with some bigfoot researchers as well
as UFO experiencers. But later on the same guy was
out there on this road and there was a burnout
car close to the river, and he just drove on down.
He was gone maybe twenty minutes, and came back. When
it came back, the car was completely gone. But also
that burn section of the road was no longer burnt.
So he went home and he was telling his parents,
and he was a teenager, so he went home and
told his parents about the car and his DEAs said
that was really odd because he remembered back like in
the fifties or something like that, there was a murder
I think, and they took in a car that was
parked right at that same spot and they had burned
the car to get rid of the body in it,
I believe, is what they said. And it was the
exact same plus place. So it was like he he
kind of wondered if he had had a time slip,
maybe he saw something that wasn't even there in the past,
since when it came back by, it wasn't even the
ground wasn't burnt.
Speaker 6: Wow, that's a that's kind of nutty. Yeah, somebody has
something really Oh have you ever heard of any like
a UFO witness that ever heard any kind of humming
or any kind of infrasound kind of sound, you know, sounds.
I guess I took a report literally yesterday, and they
didn't know anything about me and David Ellis's hum study
because people keep recording these weird kind of like sounds,
like kind of overdriven hummingbird wings in association with bigfoot sightings. Okay,
I haven't.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard of that with bigfoot sightings necessarily, I
have a little bit with the UFO. Yeah, well answers,
but not necessarily the Bigfoot. What I hear with Bigfoot
is more like these very unusual sounds of machinery. It's
like big machinery, but it's you know, if they're in
a place that there can't be any big machinery around. Okay, Yeah,
so I hear more that sound than a humor.
Speaker 6: Mechanical mechanical sound.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mechanical sound, right exactly.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Door slams are things that sound like a door slam.
Speaker 1: Interesting thing I heard the other day was the wood
knocks that these people had. They they had an electromagnetic
field detector out with them doing Bigfoot research, and every
time they hear a wood knock, this thing would spike.
It's like, why would an electromagnetic field detector spike with
a wood knock? That doesn't make any sense at all.
But of course with u FO researchers, I do know.
They often will take these out to sites where there's
been some kind of alien interaction, and oftentimes the very
place where that would occur, there would be a spike
also in the electromagnetic field detector. So those are also
correlations that you wonder Okay, what is this and why?
Speaker 6: Well, what kind of sounds of UFO people reported? Can
you remember any of those?
Speaker 1: I remember a researcher that went to South America somewhere
and there were people that had constant aliens coming into
their home. And when they ask where, a man had
already gone through the house and you know, they were
having an interview in one room with the people, and
this guy was going through the house with his electromatic
field detector and he found the spot in the dining
area and the floor that was just spiking off the wall.
It was just huge amounts of radiation come from there.
And the people when they were ask you know, in
the interview in the other room, they ask, okay, so
where do they come into the house, and they went
into the dining room. It was a very same location.
So it does seem like maybe there's some form of
a correlation there between between you know, the electromagnetic spikes
and these aliens or Bigfoot or whatever coming and going
from our reality.
Speaker 6: Interesting, what about dead batteries and I mean just just
the batteries and electrical failures. One of our encounters cost
me about ten grand because it burned out all of
our low voltage in the home. All of it burned out.
Even all the HDMI ports on the TVs were burned out. Well,
you can't use a TV. We don't have any way
to plug in anything and antenna or cable, so we
had to get all new TVs. It burned out our
vacuum system, our alarm system, it burned out my electric
boat controller. My phone was a brand new iPhone, was
completely toasted when I tried to film these things, and
so that was really an expensive encounter.
Speaker 1: It would be. You know, I haven't. I haven't had
that personal experience, but I've heard a lot of people
who have. When we filmed by Ways of Bigfoot, we
had no problems whatsoever. When when I did the UFO research, however,
sometimes the batteries would drain. That was it didn't tear
anything up, It was just the batteries would drain. We
couldn't film anything.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I wonder I've never I'm trying to think if
I've ever even encountered anything electrical with bigfoots. I haven't. Personally,
my son has. He's had not a thermal but a
night scope explode in his face when he was filming
a Bigfoot it just literally exploded, and he's had batteries
go dead and that kind of thing. But I haven't,
but with UFOs I have, so I don't know. You
just wonder how they're if they're doing it on purpose,
or if it's an accidental result of whatever they're putting out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like to me, or it seems like
to me that it would be. It's more of the
essence of what you're dealing with there, you know, the
reality that you're dealing with. We don't know how much
that interferes with with our sins. But you know, the
old reports for some since I knew Ted Phillips so well,
and he did so many UFO reports in the old days,
back in the fifties sixties, you know a lot of
people would report seeing a craft on the road or
the side of the road and they would get radiation burn. Now,
I haven't heard of a radiation burn for quite a while.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right, Yeah, it's been a while. Do you
remember the Vel Johnson case where the guy had even
his eyes were burnt. That was the sheriff up in
It was war Road, Minnesota that saw bright light at
the end of a road. It was like an orb
and he kind of headed his car because he thought
maybe it's a drug plane landing on this deserted, dead
end road, and so he goes towards it, and the
thing comes towards him really quick breaks, the windshield cracks,
the windshield bends, is spring loaded antennas at a right angle,
gives him welding burns on his eyes. And then there's
that very famous case of the two ladies I cannot
think of their name. They had their son with that
was Landrum, the Landroum case, the Vicky Landrum case, where
they were both had severe radiation burns. I don't even
remember what state that was in, somewhere down south. But
they suit the government because you know, they had all
these health problems and they and they had they had
seen military helicopters kind of hovering above this UFO that
looked like it was in trouble, and so they made
the dot connection that, okay, the US militaries hiding secrets.
And it's the first lawsuit that was ever fired. Of course,
they lost the lawsuit in East Texas. Oh, East Texas, Yeah,
I know, it's south. That's the Landroom case. Look it up, people,
it's really crazy. Yeah, And I mean they recall things
like they touched the door handle and fried their hand,
and somebody had left their handprint and the dash because
a dashboard was so hot. But yeah, you're right, and
we don't hear much about that anymore. You kind of
wonder why are are uh their technology improving? Is that
even I don't know, it sounds crazy or maybe they
didn't realize it hurt us at that time. Yeah, it's true,
maybe they learned that. Who knows the Travis Walton he
was injured. Do you think that missing people or have
anything to do with cryptids or do you think it's
some other UFOs or just natural causes.
Speaker 1: I lean more toward just natural things with that, rather
than to be an abduction of some sort. I mean,
I suppose a really you know, hungry bigfoot could capture
a human or take a human for whatever purpose. And
but aliens don't seem to keep them, they return them.
So I haven't heard of anyone just going missing that
that's related to an.
Speaker 6: Alien right thatturned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's also.
Speaker 6: But Linda, but if they're gone, how are we ever
gonna know?
Speaker 1: It's really impossible to know.
Speaker 6: You just lost that. Yeah, how do we ever know
if they're just taking I can't.
Speaker 1: Tell you a really weird thing that happened when we
were filming intuitive journeys. However, they we you know, we had,
we had, you have to make the show good. We
were always honest with everything we put out there. But
we're trying to make a good, decent show. So we
were asking if there were any portals in the area,
and one of the remote viewers saw an area, so
we were going out there. But I realized that we
probably wouldn't be able to film anything that would actually
show much of a portal out there. You know, we
were just going to go out there and film, So
I was asking everyone prior to going if anything unusual
had happened that we could talk about before going out
to film, at least, you know, spice up the show
a little bit. And the cameraman, which normally wasn't wasn't there.
Normally the cameraman was was not filming when we were
at the house filming, but because you were doing this
this journey that day to film, he was there with us.
And suddenly the cameraman says, Oh, I have this really
weird circle in my backyard this morning. He shows a
picture of it, and it was this strange round crop
circle looking thing. It was just a swirl that went down.
So after after we went out to the site and
we had one wood knock and that was about it.
We went to the hat his house and looked at it.
We just happened to have a horticulturalist on the show
with us, so he understood that, and he also knew
a lot about crop circles, so he was able to
go look at the plants. They did have that expanded
node like there was a microwave blast or something that
went down.
Speaker 6: In the yard.
Speaker 1: And we did we did the seil test, we you know,
tried to We sent that off to the lab. You know,
we had control samples as well as samples inside the
crop circle to see the nodes that were actually you know,
heated and bent rather than just you know down because
of wind or something like that. But this is the
real tailtale sign. His dog would always go out the
back door right in that area. This thing butted right
up next to his back porch, and the dog would
go out and always just go right through there. Well,
the dog for months would go way around this circle.
So that was nothing too. There were no lecromagnetic field
detections there. Compass didn't do anything odd. But it was
just a weird thing that there was a crop circle
there that morning that we needed something odd to happen.
Speaker 6: So, yeah, the exploded nodes, uh, obviously is a real thing.
I had that scientifically analyzed too when we did Monster
Quest in one episode. But you don't hear much about
crop circles. Again, this is kind of quiet. Yeah, And
I don't know if there's still happening. I would imagine
they are.
Speaker 1: We had an office building here in Springfield, Missouri that
had a really weird crop circle form in the office,
in an office and the only way we knew about
it was explained explained there was a weird pattern that
suddenly formed in the carpet. It was like a weird, indented,
strange cop circle like pattern. And they came to work
that morning, they made all of them go out. They
ripped up the carpet, immediately threw it away, the carpet.
But she saw it and she said it was the
strangest thing. It was like, you know, it was just
it was like one one office. It was a huge
office building, many stories tall. But it was just one
area that that happened in, and it's like, how what
would cause that in a carpet?
Speaker 6: Exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 6: That's really a weird story. The fact they ripped it up.
Why would they do that if it didn't have so
was it like permanently you know, stained or.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was stained. It was more
like a you know, it was like either something was
cut or you know, intention of some sort. You know,
I don't know exactly how they you know, some sort
you know. Propsort was can formed anywhere. I snow, you know, grass,
you know, in multiple places, but I'd never heard of
one in a building before like that.
Speaker 6: Did Ted Phillips ever investigate? I know, he investigated circles,
landing circles and imprints and soil. He did a lot
of soil testing and he had kind of proven then
a lot of the soil was hydrophobic or it would
you know, just wouldn't observe water anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. That was more the UFO landing sites. So
I don't know, I don't know if he did anything
with crop circles or anything like that.
Speaker 6: I don't recall him ever, doing that. He may have
never got a chance, but god, you're lucky to have
known him. It's a really super nice guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was. He was an excellent, excellent person on
the show.
Speaker 6: Yeah, gosh, darn, Jeff. Do you have any questions here?
Speaker 9: Yeah, Linda, Do you have what is your either favorite
or most notable abduction story that you've heard?
Speaker 1: I like the Travis Wall story. He's just such a genuine,
down to earth guy. And you know what, over all
of these years, his story hasn't changed a bit, and
I think there's something very authentic about that. He doesn't
tend to exaggerate it. He tends to just, you know,
always tell it like it is. If he doesn't know
something he says that, he tends to not you know,
I've met him many times at conferences and things. No,
he just seems like a real genuine person to me.
So I just really like his story.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, more than that, I got to know
Mike Rogers, the guy driving the truck, and I don't
really think Mike, you know, he had an infrared Travis
a bit, probably because he had all the atta. I
don't know the reason, but Mike would call me up
on occasion we would talk and you know, Mike says
that damn thing that happened, you know, I mean, he
never once questioned anything Travis ever said, even though I
think he would have liked to, but he couldn't be
it was true. And I think Mike has passed now recently,
not terribly long ago. But man, he I mean, you
talk about a guy with emotions witnessing what they witnessed,
because Travis really didn't wait, he just got zapped and
went unconscious and they booked out of there. But to
talk to Mike, it's just, you know, it's it's absolutely
crazy to hear that first hand story. I've never I've
talked to Travis on the phone, but I've never met
him personally.
Speaker 1: Nice guy. He's just a real down to earth person.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so how long are you going to continue doing
your show? You're just going to keep going.
Speaker 1: Well, as long as I have an audience, I probably
keep going. You know, It's like Bigfoot wasn't my first
my very first thing. UFO's you know, all the other
mysteries in life, and of course I do a lot
of psychic training and things like that, so those things
really fascinate me. But you know bigfoot. I've been drawn
into it based mostly because my audience is such a
loyal audience and I really appreciate them, and I find
that as I continue doing this, I actually find a
lot of information about UFOs because as we talk about
we hear all their their bigfoot stories, we get all
their philosophy about bigfoot. I always ask the question, have
you ever seen a UFO? And so then we go
down that avenue to hear o their UFO stories, because
oftentimes they have.
Speaker 6: Yeah, is there one or two amazing bigfoot stories that
you could relate?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was one that that really stood out to me,
and it was kind of a UFO slash bigfoot story.
This guy had had befriended I wouldn't say befriended, I
would say learned to They had tolerated one another in
this area and he would often just go out walking
and you know, sometimes he would hear them, sometimes he
would see them or see evidence of them. And this
one day he was walking through this this hilly area
and there was a log across the road, and in
his mind that always meant don't go there, Just don't
go back tonight, Just don't don't enter. So he went home,
and of course what does he do. He calls of
his friend and his son, and they decide to go
out and sit on the hillside and just kind of
observe and see what's what's going on. So they drive
out there, he parks, They climb up the hill. They
perched you in a place that they could see the valley,
and they're just, you know, they're just there. So they
see all of these this eye shine around the automobile
that they left down below, and they assume that's you know,
they foot naturally, so they're just just observing, you know,
all the eye shine. And then suddenly there is this
huge ball of light that's coming from I think it
was from west to east and it shoots down into
the valley and all of a sudden, they hear this
commotion with all of the eye shine, turns around, they're
no longer facing them, and they run, all of them
run straight down the hill to this ball of light
in the in the bottom of the valley, and they're
just in awe and they don't know, you know, was
that a planned situation and they were supposed to meet
up with this you know, wall of light or were
they just curious and ran down there because they wanted
to know what that was. That always stood out to
me just because of the drama of it all.
Speaker 6: What about eyeshine versus eye glow? You know, eyes don't glow,
but yet so many people report it. Have you taken
a lot of reports too about eyeglow?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've taken a lot of reports on the
eye shine versus the eye glow. And oftentimes there's nothing
to be shining against. There's no light source. It's just
a glowing essence, you know, of light, and they're seeing pairs,
so they assume it's light. It's eyes, so you know.
And then sometimes they think it is shine because they've
got a light that that's shining toward them, or moonlight
or something like that. They think there might be some reflection.
Speaker 6: What what colors have you heard about?
Speaker 1: I mean green, yellow, amber, sometimes red, sometimes red. I
don't think i've heard anything. I don't think i've heard
blue at all. I think mostly amber, yellow, red mostly.
Speaker 6: It's it's like the most inconsistent part of bigfoot sightings
is the eye color or the eye glow color. And
that's interesting and I've had people go, well, it depends
on their emotions. You know, they change color if they're
mad or if they're if they're happy or whatever. And
you know, once again we don't know, but it's so consistent,
the eye glow of the eye glow of the eye glow. Yeah. Crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, I remember I remember Ted Phillips talking about out
of the Marley Woods where he was doing the research,
and they would have a lot of orbs out there,
and what they began to correlate was when they would
see these reddish colored orbs out there, they knew something
that was going to be really dangerous was probably coming
down the line, and there would be there would be light,
you know, shots of laser lights you know, coming out
of the sky and things like that, and nothing good
was going to happen here. But if the lights were
white or just you know, yellowish color or amber or
you know, whatever color they were, if they were not
of that dark, dark red color, then it was going
to be a gentle experience that night, like as if
the orbs was communicating that or something about the orbs
had that energy of whatever was going to take place
later on that day so our night. And I thought
that was an interesting correlation.
Speaker 6: Very interesting. What about ports of zapping. There's been several
people in the audience, including David Ellis, who's you know,
had experiences with being zapp feeling extreme anxiety, feeling like
they need to leave the area immediately, being confused. I mean,
I've been with people that have been zapped, and then
I've heard stories of good friends of mine that have
been zapped, people who are like woodsmen, hunters, and they'll
get zapped and they're like walking in circles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard of that a lot, where they they
may feel ill, or they may just feel disoriented for
a time. Sometimes they even have missing time and yeah, yeah,
that happens like and they may feel fine and then
suddenly there's it just strikes them like they takes them
to their knees almost.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah. How often do you get dougmen and people
on That's another weird cryptid that it is. I don't
have any experience with. But what.
Speaker 1: I've done a few dog man I don't. I don't
search those out because my audience is pretty much Bigfoot,
you know, but I understand that the dog man is
is one of those cryptids that is definitely reported right
along with Bigfoot, and you know, ofttimes is and back
when we're doing intuitive journeys. Actually, we had a gentleman
on that was a dog man researcher, and it opened
my eyes about the thing. I didn't even know about
Bigfoot at that point in time, or I didn't know
much information about it, but his his was all all
dog man research. And then I've done a few that
I didn't Probably early on I didn't realize that we
were going to get into the dog man thing, because
you know, it's one of those things that kind of
stretched my mind. I could be believe in Bigfoot, but
dog man was a little bit beyond what I wanted
to accept. But as I first threw about it, I
don't know that there's much difference, you know, and other
than dog man seems a little bit more violent.
Speaker 6: But well, I don't know if you know Alaan Strictler,
but he uses the word ultra terrestrials to describe moth men,
dog men and some of these creatures. I don't know
if that's in your it's in your wheelhows that term, Yeah,
kind of makes.
Speaker 1: Sense, I did. I just interviewed someone the other day
that that introduced that term to me. I didn't know
what it meant either. But you know, I think that
might be somewhat true. I think there are creatures out
there like this, and they might fall into that category.
They may be extraterrestrial, they may be interdimensional, they may,
you know, have these extra qualities of some sort. There's
certainly experiences that people have with them that we cannot
explain because we don't just disappear or you know, up here,
or disappear or have these kind of unusual qualities about you.
Speaker 6: Know, per I can't imagine a moth man, you know,
living in the woods feeding on whatever. And you know,
I think there'd be more reports of it, because that's
got to be some kind of weird you know.
Speaker 8: I didn't.
Speaker 6: I thought it was allbs. But man, I'll swear in
a Bible that what I saw was real. I don't
know where it came from. I don't know what it wanted,
but it seemed like its only purpose was to scare us,
which kind of seems like a vampire kind of a
you know, a thing where they're sucking energy off you,
off your fear. But what what in the world would
their purpose be to swoop at a car? You know
what I mean? It sounds silly. It does, Yeah, it
just sounds ridiculous. Why would it do that. It's not
it's not gaining anything, it's using energy up exactly.
Speaker 1: But you know, this is an even weirder thing. I
think a friend of mine, his mother was driving in
Arkansas and she swears to this day this happened. There
was this giant, giant, spider looking thing that slowly walked
across the road in front of her, and she swears,
you know, it was gigantic, way taller than the car,
and it just slowly had multiple legs. It was black,
and it just slowly walked across the road.
Speaker 6: It's as creepy as it gets. Is it possible it
was a big foot doing this so called spider walk
or spider crawl.
Speaker 1: I think she might have been able to tell a
big foot from a spider. It was spinning, you know,
like the spider legs.
Speaker 6: You know. Yeah, it's so weird because it's such a
one off. I don't know if you know Albert roselle'es
he collects humanoid reports and just strange walking creatures, and
the variety of things people report is so wide and
so bizarre that you don't want to read that read
his files before good to bed. You just don't. It's
just nuts. So what do you I mean, what goes
through your head? You just I would imagine you have
no choice but to believe them. But why would they lie?
There's no reason to make something like that up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very few people that I've interviewed that I felt
like their story didn't hold water. And the ones that didn't,
why not put it on, you know, put the show up.
But very few of them. And sometimes it's just when
there's discrepancy and what they're saying and from one part
of the story to another, if you question them again,
it just changes, you know, and they don't seem to
be able to hold up. Another thing is I've noticed,
you know, as you progress on, they may have a
small portion of their story is real, and then they
just start repeating things they've heard, you know, from other stories,
and you just don't know they're for sure, but you
can kind of get a feeling. But I haven't had
many of them. Was almost I would say ninety eight
percent of everyone I've interviewed, I believe they honestly believe
the story they were telling me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, who wakes up and goes, I'm going to see
a giants, I'm gonna tell a story about seeing a
giant spider.
Speaker 9: It's just it's most people that tell the story. It's
not like their life gets better after they tell the story,
so there's not a real compelling reason to make it up.
Speaker 6: No, you have everything to lose, you have nothing. You know.
People I think they like to tell their story finally
to you know, it's like therapy. Yes, you know, you
hold this crap in and then you get to finally
talk about it. You just don't care anymore and it
feels good to just get it off your chest. I'm
glad I haven't seen a giant spider yet.
Speaker 9: Though that would freak me out.
Speaker 6: All right, let's talk about your book, Linda that Well,
we're kind to wrap this up, but bring up your book.
This cover, first off, is really good, but it's definitely
at it's definitely creepy. Can you explain the cover and
then explain what the book's about.
Speaker 1: Well, this is kind of my lifelong experience of doing
research and UFO's paranormal ghost activity and Bigfoot and the
threshold to encounters. It just seems like that there's so
much speculation out there about who has encounters, how they
have encounters, what encounters they have. So I just put
it all in there, including you know, governmental programs, projections,
holograms that might be out there. Also the you know,
the the delusional part of you know, some people may
see things that may not actually be there all the
way through to the you know, the good old researchers
in the woods seeing things wouldn't writ to you if
they had to and they saw something, you know, all
the way through. So the book is really about, you know,
my life experience in doing all of this research.
Speaker 6: Okay, are there any conclusions in your book?
Speaker 1: No, not really, because I don't know, and so I
just put out theories and ideas. I give a lot
of firsthand stories that people have shared with me and
allowed me to put in the book, including the Blue
Man from Missouri. You know that the old story about
the blue Man. My dad grew up in that area.
I often wonder if he has any experiences with that,
because that's that's exactly where my dad grew up. But
the Ozarks had had the blue Man back in what
the thirties forties, you know, that was reported a lot,
so it was a large bigfoot looking creature that had
really black hair, and because the hair was so black,
when the sun would shine on it looked blue.
Speaker 6: Okay. Interesting. Matt Langford asked whether you've ever had any
witnesses that were angry or anybody who's had any encounters
with whether it's UFOs or bigfoots where they felt the
creatures were angry.
Speaker 1: Definitely, yeah, yeah, definitely yeah, on both sides. On the
UFO side, it felt like they were more angry if
the person wasn't cooperative. They felt, you know, there was
sternness there, not so much like like Bigfoot. You know,
Guard's territory doesn't want people in and a certain location
at a certain time maybe and exhibited very very you know,
strong expression to get themselves out of there. So yeah,
but you know, as to I haven't talked to anyone
that actually got hurt other than getting hit by a
rock in Bigfoot territory. You know that that's as far
as it would go. Terrified. Yes, I just interviewed a
woman I think that just my It just came out
the other day where it's like two in the morning.
She had car treble in the mount Mountains in Oklahoma,
and this bigfoot. You know, she was sleeping in the
road waiting for rescue when this bigfoot came. She heard
the breathing and she was asleep. She had a stick
because she knew she was in territory with her offering
some type of a wild cat is out there. I
can't remember what she said, bobcat probably, and so she
had a stick because she knew how to fend herself
a way of a bobcat. But this thing was huge.
It was tall, it was enormous. You know, it was
just this gigantic thing on two feet. So it wasn't
and she wasn't familiar with bigfoot really, but you know,
she it wasn't that it was dark. It was really dark.
It was two in the morning. So she and she's
in like flip flop shoes, so, you know, not exactly
the best shoes to you know, to protect herself. And
this thing just kept plunging at her and she kept
hitting it with a stick. And they did this for
such a long time till she was so exhausted and
her feet were killing her, and you know, she lost,
you know, at least one shoe. She's on rocks and
she just doesn't know what else to do, and finally
she just throws down the stick, turns around and starts
walking off. She walked for about a mile. This thing
followed her, but wasn't attacking her at that point. She
went another mile or so. She knew this later because
that's how far she was from the intersection they were
supposed to rescue her at and they I mean, when
she described this to the man that was there, the
rescue team that came, he said, yeah, we hit reports
of that. That's a big foot, you know, we get
reports of those here all the time. They took her
to the hospital. She was terribly dehydrated, exhausted, and of
course in anxiety mode. She was a physician, so you
know when she got the hospital was the hospital she
worked at, actually, and she was hysterical. Her sister came
and first she's you know, blabbering off about this creature
and this bigfoot, you know, and trying to keep it
away from her, trying to stay alive. And you know,
it was a little embarrassing the next day because she
had to go to work. You know, she's talked all
about this hysterically, but that was probably one of the
scariest bigfoot stories I've heard because she was alone, it's
two in the morning, you know, she her cell phone
wouldn't work. That's why she had to walk, you know,
to this intersection and finally got got a hold of
nine to one one to come, you know, to come
rescue her. But she had to wait for them because
there was a long long ways from a rescue unit
to come out there for So it was. That was
a bizarre story, but an interesting one.
Speaker 6: What about anytime you need to bail Linda good you
just you just you just yell at me and I'll
let you go. But okay, so I just thought of
another question. I want to ask you. How about people
reporting portals. What are your thoughts on, you know, not
only portals for UFOs, but portals for bigfoots. I've heard
some really credible people tell me some crazy stories. But
I got to just tell you this story. I saw footage,
literally like two weeks ago, of a guy who claims
he has a portal on his property and he actually
has this giant structure on his property and he's like,
he films a video of a deer and he goes,
this deer just came through the portal. I swear to god,
you the deer's got its eyes closed standing there. He goes,
he's a little stunned, right town. He goes to pet
the deer, and the deer gonna instantly pulls back from
the guy. But his eyes are I've never seen a
deer with his eyes closed standing next to a man.
He's like, yeah, I just brought this guy through the portal.
And I don't know what to think of that video.
Speaker 1: Wow, so he just brought him through the portal.
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know. I don't know the guy.
I'm gonna find out. I'm gonna find out because this
footage is so crazy, but it's real and it's a
white tailed deer and he's standing. He goes, I just
brought this guy through the portal. He's doing okay, but
he's a little stunned still, and his eyes are closed.
Like the deer is like clenching his eyes shut. But
as the guy puts his hand towards the deer, before
he even touches the deer, the deer flinches away from him.
So the deer is very much awake. He's not drugged
or he wouldn't do that. And the guy is like, oh,
you're gonna be okay. But he's told the guy that
showed me the video all sorts of stories, and he
got invited to go up there, and he got invited
to go up When the guy brings creatures and animals through.
Speaker 1: The portal, where does he wonder where they come from?
Speaker 6: I don't know. I have no idea. It's in Minnesota,
so it's a Minnesota Well, the only.
Speaker 1: Portal I'm really familiar with is just the one that
Trey Hudson, you know, explores at the meadow and you know,
they found it was a box, you know that they
they only found on it through the flare that they
could see that there was a cube out there in
the meadow. And then of course those two guys that
were researching, they went out and walked into it, and
when they did, there was no more hate signature of
the two guys when they were inside.
Speaker 6: This heard this story second.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was that was interesting, you know, And
I haven't heard of many other portals besides that, because
we went out to this area to try to find
a portal, but we didn't really find much out there.
Lots of things have gone on in that area, however,
Lots of UFO activity. There was a wood doughnut UFO
went over the lake. There was a big foot scene
really close by there. There's some and and the man
who studies dog Man was there with us at that
At that time, we heard a wood knock that was
really loud, and I didn't I didn't even heard a
woodknock before. And I just mentioned, what is that? And
he said, that's a wood knock, you know. And he
had he had been in security and patrol that area
many times. It was a lake area, and he said
some really strange things would happen there at night, but
you know, nothing that he could put his finger on
to tell me about. But he said, just a very
airy feeling out there at night. But we didn't really
have anything happened to us when we were there.
Speaker 6: Interesting, Oh man, I mean, that's just like such a
strange can of worms. But I've talked to two people
I trust a lot, and they claimed they were out
on a bigfoot expedition here several summers ago, and they
both claimed they saw a square portal open up like
a cube in the middle of the woods. It's like,
what you know what I mean? I was like, oh,
I wish I was there really something to see? You know,
so I've heard these stories. And then up at snow
one of our members said they saw a portal open
up in the sky. And then we had a bunch
of red orbs visit the cabin. Everybody saw them but me.
Everybody but me that was at my back turns like
they were you know, people would turn white. It's like
what they're like, Well, two red orbs just whiz by,
you know, like low to the ground. So I don't know,
I don't know what to think about all this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the interesting report. Just the other day, a group
of us were together and someone was talking about seeing
these Really they were hard to see, but they were
like these large like amiebas, and you could barely see them.
Weren't clouds, you could see through them. They were kind
of weird jellyfish looking things. They were floating through the
sky and they just kept floating in one after another.
They were huge, but just really odd. But he said,
you know, first he didn't notice them, and a guy
that was there with him looked up and said pointed
them out to him, and as he started looking he
could see them.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they very strange, these very strange jellyfish like the
me but looking things, you know, floating across the sky.
I'd never heard that before.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we've seen videos of that. We've had it on that,
We've showed videos on the show of that. Pretty strange stuff.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what to I don't know
what to think of any of this stuff I'm getting.
I mean, the world's getting weirder and weirder and weirder.
I just yeah, I don't know what to think. I
don't even I'm not sure I want to think about
any I don't think if I want to see anything more. So,
are you really like, would you love the opportunity to
see a bigfoot? Linda?
Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't mind seeing one. I think I
would like to see it from my car as I'm
driving down the road and it's walking along the side
of the road. I don't know that I want one
of these, you know, face to face encounters, or any
scary place where I'm invading their territory and they don't
want me there. I don't know if I want that
type of an encounter, but I really wouldn't mind. Team
went alongside the road.
Speaker 6: And the good place to see it. We've seen two
really close at the side of the road, meaning event,
and it's so nice to have a witness. Oh my god,
that's so nice because if you don't have a witness,
you're kind of like it's just your word, that's it.
Somebody said Adam, Adam Davies loves it when you ask
him about the portal. Yeah, and I did. I I
had my son in the phone and I called Adam
and I go, tell us about your portal experience. And
Adam was just totally straight with it. He just told
this whole story. Have you ever talked to Adam about that?
You should get him on your show and ask him
about this strange night that he had. It Just that's
something you expect to come from Adam. I mean, Adam's
a guy I hired to do like jungle expeditions and
go to the Himalayas, and you know what I mean.
He's just he just does not seem like the portal guy.
But he tells it like it is and he's like,
he goes, I don't know what to think of it.
That's what I saw.
Speaker 9: So it is interesting. I've there's there's a lot of
subjects that I didn't find very plausible, you know, a
couple of years ago, but just from talking to people
telling these stories, yeah, there's some pretty credible stories. I mean,
like Linda said, these people saw something that you can
kind of tell when someone's just telling a story. But
these people saw something. Yeah, and that's credible. I mean,
it's it's it's it's hard to just dismiss that it is.
Speaker 6: Well, it's easier when you haven't seen it yourself. Of course,
at least you feel like there's a chance it's not real.
But when you start seeing it yourself. Somebody had asked
and I'm like, I think it was Matt, and asked,
you know, what's your where is your fear level at
when you're out in the field. But I think we
answered that already. Go back and watch at the beginning
of the show, Matt. That was one of the first
questions I asked you, all right, let's wrap this up here.
Thank you so much, Linda. And where can people get
your book? And they if they want an autograph copy,
can they get one?
Speaker 1: Well, if they want an autograph copy, yeah, they can
just go to my website. You can just contact me
through my website. It's just Lindasbern dot com. You can
also get one through Amazon, but it won't be signed,
but you can get through Amazon of course.
Speaker 6: Very cool. I'm very cool, and I uh put the
cover back up, Jeff. Yeah, we go there, we go
the threshold to encounter. It's a great.
Speaker 9: Title.
Speaker 6: I love the title. Well, thank you so much. Sorry
to bombard you with so many stupid questions or weird
questions that were kind of out of the blue.
Speaker 1: Oh I loved it. Yeah, I love the topic.
Speaker 6: Okay, well, forgive me if I if I hit you
from too many different directions. That's what happens when you
get interviewed by a guy with ADHD, is true? Yes, anyhow,
thanks so much, Linda, But just stand by. We're going
to do our wisdom then we'll then we'll wrap up here.
Speaker 9: Hey tight, everyone, and we'll be right back.
Speaker 2: It's now time for untold Radio and Wisdom of the Week.
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Speaker 9: As always, that was good wisdom, very good wisdom, and
thank you so much, Linda, and I recommend you go
over if you're not familiar with the Linda Eastburn YouTube channel,
get over there and subscribe.
Speaker 6: I always watch your shows. I binge that Melnda. It
drives me nuts because I'm like, okay, one more, one more,
one more, and I find out the sun's coming up.
And what's cool about your show, Linda, and what makes
it very different their very long form, and that is
something I think now people are craving because of all
this short you know, little videos that are all over
social media. Yeah, but your your your shows are very thorough. Yeah,
and I really appreciate them. Good, thank you, Yeah, Well,
thank you for coming on, and we'll be back next week. Yeah,
we've got another surprise. Guest, and we will see everybody
next Sunday.
Speaker 9: Thanks everybody tonight.
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