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Speaker 2: Enough to do and everybody. Welcome to Eye on the
Speaker 2: Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera's
Speaker 2: bring your kids to work today. Today, got Matt with us,
Speaker 2: Got Henry with us. Henry's under Nova, not under control.
Speaker 2: It's Matt today. You might have some hiccups, but we're
Speaker 2: ready to roll you ready, Yeah, you're confident.
Speaker 3: Little bit a little bit. He's got heart away.
Speaker 2: No, you got to start somewhere. I don't even do
Speaker 2: that because I don't want to learn. That's so I
Speaker 2: got you guys. Help me out. You guys got to
Speaker 2: learn anyway. Hell, I'm on my way out of my career.
Speaker 2: You guys are just starting, so it's good. Do you
Speaker 2: guys know this stuff? Hey, welcome guys. I wanted to
Speaker 2: ask you guys, when you're on campus and you're out,
Speaker 2: you know, out and about, do the students care or
Speaker 2: is there a buzz about the football team or do
Speaker 2: they you know, what the hell? Just another day?
Speaker 4: I think basketball there definitely is a buzz football. You
Speaker 4: could you could tell, you can tell there's a buzz
Speaker 4: for basketball football. Maybe towards the end the last season,
Speaker 4: I felt a little buzz, But so far this season,
Speaker 4: I never really what do.
Speaker 2: You what would be the buzz? What's the buzz mean?
Speaker 4: Just like people actually caring, like people shown up to
Speaker 4: the you know events, the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk yeah, talk about it and do you feel
Speaker 2: that now?
Speaker 4: I feel more than I've felt it my past couple
Speaker 4: of years. It's still not that much compared to the basketball.
Speaker 4: Like last game, I didn't feel it like last did
Speaker 4: you go? I didn't go to the game, but I
Speaker 4: was on campus and I didn't like he went right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was at the game.
Speaker 2: It was last week different than the previous weeks.
Speaker 4: Just I think the most buzz I felt this year
Speaker 4: was New Mexico game, just because it.
Speaker 2: Was a good crowd. You guys were rocking and rolling
Speaker 2: with the with the zoo and we'll see I mean
Speaker 2: the Colorado game sold out? Right? Oh yeah? So but
Speaker 2: is it more for Arizona's sake or is it for
Speaker 2: the curiosity of Colorado? Both? Both? You know, I guess
Speaker 2: it doesn't hurt, right, it doesn't. Yeah, fill to fill
Speaker 2: the house and if they if Arizona wins, they have
Speaker 2: a lot of talk. You know, they'd be Dean again.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. But we don't know, we don't know.
Speaker 2: I think you've already made a prediction. What did you think?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: I think Colorado is gonna beat us, for sure, because
Speaker 3: just talent wise, they have more talent. You know, let's go,
Speaker 3: let's go one game at a time now and I'm
Speaker 3: calling it Travis going for one.
Speaker 2: Hundred, so he's gonna have a better game than t
Speaker 2: Mac for sure, for sure, Henry, what a debate, This
Speaker 2: could be a debate show. We can wait till next week.
Speaker 2: We got to you gotta get to this. And who knows.
Speaker 2: I think the line has moved up to five and
Speaker 2: a half at least that's where I saw thee Yeah,
Speaker 2: five and a half so from four, so you know
Speaker 2: what that means. People are picking you pretty heavily. I
Speaker 2: think I would take the points though, five and a half,
Speaker 2: because we've talked about it. We talked about it. When
Speaker 2: you guys are here on Monday, when you don't expect
Speaker 2: anything from Arizona, they show up, and if they're gonna
Speaker 2: give you five and a half. Take the points. Yeah,
Speaker 2: take the points. They win by six or who's by six?
Speaker 3: Right, So I've been on the slump, so you know.
Speaker 2: When day when Jay's on a lot slump, which is
Speaker 2: most months. I hate taking no advice from Jay, So
Speaker 2: I know you're kind of got down from so I'm
Speaker 2: not listening to you. What is it? Did you see
Speaker 2: it's five? Are you looking at right now? Checking it
Speaker 2: out right now?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think it's about five and five and a half,
Speaker 2: which is is uh more points to take. We'll see
Speaker 2: what happens now with who's out the dbate Dbi's Yeah,
Speaker 2: who you know? Who's out? Got her gunner and gunner
Speaker 2: and and the other kid, not Davis, but the other kid.
Speaker 2: You know, I know, you know, I know you know,
Speaker 2: skinny skinny guy h dB.
Speaker 6: Uh blank name didn't play no, no, god, I can't know.
Speaker 6: He just lost his name. And then he got hurt
Speaker 6: last weekend.
Speaker 2: I don't know, son of a gun. He just got hurt.
Speaker 2: Who's the guy on the sidelines with the hands on
Speaker 2: the weekend he was someone's gonna text me on Someone's
Speaker 2: gonna text me and say, uh someone I know, No,
Speaker 2: No one's texting me yet Uh come on the other
Speaker 2: good dude. Uh another good stup said, Sukes, why why
Speaker 2: why am I blan? You gonna tell you're going and
Speaker 2: tell me something.
Speaker 3: You'll remember freshman year, at least my freshman year, Stukes
Speaker 3: was you know, he.
Speaker 2: Was a he was a number two pencil dude. Yeah
Speaker 2: he was. But so you have that impression of him
Speaker 2: now even now he's got better. Now he's got he's
Speaker 2: gotten better. I think obviously when we've talked to you,
Speaker 2: when you first shrilled up here, you don't think Davis
Speaker 2: is a first round draft and people are talking that,
Speaker 2: yeah what what what? What do you see that?
Speaker 3: Honestly, it's just whenever it goes like like, for example,
Speaker 3: that Utah game, Yeah we beat him, but their number
Speaker 3: one receiver went for like one hundred plus yards and
Speaker 3: what was this thing he used to play here? Yeah,
Speaker 3: singer he went to Yeah he went for over one hundred.
Speaker 3: So like, to me, a first round dB should I
Speaker 3: mean take that away. Davis did win the Big twelve
Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Week that week. I think it's
Speaker 3: his biggest issue is he gets beat deep.
Speaker 4: That's sometimes TV though, Can you allow that? Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: what he's got to fix.
Speaker 2: But now he's good. Though.
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking I'm not talking
Speaker 3: to this. I'm not trying to downplay the kid. You know,
Speaker 3: I pray that he guess all that he's earned. But
Speaker 3: when I heard first round, I was like, whoa, Well, yeah, to.
Speaker 2: Me, it's the stretch too, And and I know, I
Speaker 2: know he's he's the good gut. They have good body size,
Speaker 2: tall and thin. But I still think you need to
Speaker 2: be right.
Speaker 3: And even even when you were watching them last game,
Speaker 3: the commentators were saying he was a first round pick too.
Speaker 3: I heard with Davis, right, yeah, with David and Stukes.
Speaker 3: To me, and I remember what you're talking about three
Speaker 3: years ago, very thin almost like what are you doing right?
Speaker 3: If I want to big play was happening like it
Speaker 3: was because he messed up or like got beat deep
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 2: But you're not the same dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's definitely like he's definitely gotten better, but they're
Speaker 3: playing him at the at the nickel position.
Speaker 2: You know, he's a it's working from him. Well, it's
Speaker 2: going to be a big deal because you guys you
Speaker 2: said yeah, Gunner and then you have Stukes. God, I
Speaker 2: can't remember why space that name, but I'm old. Uh
Speaker 2: so those two dudes that they're lacking, But I guess
Speaker 2: Genesis can fit in pretty nicely there. Yeah, which is
Speaker 2: but if he was it was that good, he'd be starting,
Speaker 2: that's yeah. Yeah, that's true. No fault. You know, I
Speaker 2: can't play the position, so who am I to talk about?
Speaker 2: But still, would you lose two starters, that's a big deal. Definitely, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I guess the right team too. Yeah. So so we
Speaker 2: haven't talked. We talked about it, possible money, right, Are
Speaker 2: they gonna win this week?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked about a little you pick you picked
Speaker 4: them to win? I think I said I wouldn't be
Speaker 4: surprised that they win. Right now, I'd probably lean towards Arizona,
Speaker 4: but just because it's based off yeah yeah, because of
Speaker 4: how they they work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're and you're right. I mean, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: fault you if you picked them because of that reason.
Speaker 2: I would take the points for that reason. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 2: I think Brian was saying that, like b Yu doesn't.
Speaker 4: Have the most explosive offense, so that's especially during the
Speaker 4: day for whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're bad during day games. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know if you guys, I don't know if you
Speaker 2: guys are trend players. I know you do dabble in
Speaker 2: the old DraftKings stuff, but you know I'm a trend players,
Speaker 2: but I'm a I'm a trend player. If I beat
Speaker 2: Henry ten straight times, Henry not due, right, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: bet them eleven times? Right? Yeah, that makes sense. So
Speaker 2: so we'll see what happens with a lot to talk about.
Speaker 2: Thanks guys, You guys are my co hosts, which is nice.
Speaker 2: Get some young guys who don't forget names like me too,
Speaker 2: like Stukes. But let me tell you who the guests are. Today.
Speaker 2: Should be a fun show. I won't even ask you
Speaker 2: about this. Do you guys know who Matt Meilblock is?
Speaker 2: Not in my research? Though he played basketball? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: very good. Yeah, he was the winningest player here ever,
Speaker 2: never lost to McHale because that he was during the
Speaker 2: heyday of U A and and Mike and Mike and
Speaker 2: loud Olsen. Uh So he never lost to McHale. U
Speaker 2: some other people surpassed him in terms of wins at McHale,
Speaker 2: but I'm not sure if that's officially official because those
Speaker 2: games were were removed when when Sewan got in trouble,
Speaker 2: So I think it's kind of iffy, but he had
Speaker 2: he I think he wont like one hundred and seventeen games.
Speaker 2: He might know what is uh from Kansas City. I
Speaker 2: want to talk to him about just this year's basketball
Speaker 2: team and his hometown of the city. Who's killing it
Speaker 2: with the Chiefs and with the with the Royals. So
Speaker 2: there's that. And he's a pre frequent guest too. Uh
Speaker 2: he works for ESPN and all the stations doing doing games.
Speaker 2: And then we're gonna in the second half, we're gonna
Speaker 2: talk to Rocky the Rose. She's one of the former
Speaker 2: former ads here. What did you call you? Deputy deputy?
Speaker 2: Which is great, could get deputy ads back in the
Speaker 2: day with Cedric Dempsey and Greg Burn and all that.
Speaker 2: But I wanted to touch her and we've talked her
Speaker 2: about this before, all the craziness that's going on with
Speaker 2: you know, college athletics and yeah, no, great, great, I
Speaker 2: want to touch her now about the national letter of intent.
Speaker 2: Now you know what now? I mean, come on, you
Speaker 2: guys are young enough to know uh uh kind of
Speaker 2: the past, especially you, Matt. But but it's gone berserk.
Speaker 2: It's gone bunkers. I feel bad for high school kids. Man,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, you gonna sell. Well, let's just go ahead
Speaker 2: and you see the breaking news of that one, that
Speaker 2: only one. Yeah you know what did you get back?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got the NCAA approved elimination of national letter
Speaker 4: of Intent program today.
Speaker 3: Yes, Now I don't, I don't, I don't even like
Speaker 3: what does that even mean? Like you can't, Okay, so
Speaker 3: once you commit, you don't have to sign a letter anymore. So,
Speaker 3: like you could commit because.
Speaker 2: You could get a bigger payday somewhere else. I guess,
Speaker 2: I guess they'll I don't think it's been finalized. There's
Speaker 2: a final hearing scheduleized for April next year, so that's
Speaker 2: the one they'll determine whether it's final or not. But
Speaker 2: like you were saying, Matt, if you're a senior, what's
Speaker 2: gonna happen?
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying, like if you're if you're not
Speaker 3: even if you're not even ranked as a high schooler,
Speaker 3: like I'm sorry, you might have to go junior college
Speaker 3: or so. I don't know, because the transfer portal, everyone's
Speaker 3: like coaches don't even need to go to high school. No,
Speaker 3: more to get quality players that could just go into
Speaker 3: If you're not.
Speaker 2: A dude that's going to help you right away or
Speaker 2: or right away after your first year or whatever, exactly,
Speaker 2: there's no need to talk you. We talked about this
Speaker 2: a lot because for the reason you just had transfer portal.
Speaker 2: If I'm going to go and get Matt at at
Speaker 2: Santa Barbara or wherever, you know, Fresno State and he's good, dude,
Speaker 2: why would I go after a senior in high school
Speaker 2: when I know my mad ass had experience, right and
Speaker 2: you've been through there, you've been through, have done that,
Speaker 2: and you don't know what the high school kids get exactly.
Speaker 2: You got to develop them. Here's the other issue, the
Speaker 2: kid from the high school. And we talked about this
Speaker 2: with JC guys they go to j C. Well, now
Speaker 2: we know that you're not good enough to play D
Speaker 2: one right away, So what use am I going to
Speaker 2: do with hal for you in a year or so
Speaker 2: when you move up or try to move up. It's tough.
Speaker 3: But junior college, you know, No, junior college to me
Speaker 3: is always I feel like that will still be around
Speaker 3: because there's quality guys playing junior college, you know, and
Speaker 3: sure schools are always looking for sure gym.
Speaker 2: But you're going to have to be a stud, right,
Speaker 2: not that you had to be or couldn't be a
Speaker 2: study or had to be a study before, because most
Speaker 2: of the studs get found right right. Whether if you
Speaker 2: can playing, yeah, if you can play, they'll you just
Speaker 2: got to get into the school academically.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And that's mostly sometimes why players go to
Speaker 3: you go to right right.
Speaker 2: Dude, it's not you guys were in your early twenties
Speaker 2: twenty years ago when you were born.
Speaker 3: This is never even thought. I mean you were telling
Speaker 3: me tuestion. No, I don't know if it was you.
Speaker 3: Probably tuestion here was like four thousand, so yeah, change
Speaker 3: it might have been almost yeah, it was probably yeah,
Speaker 3: four thousand for the year. Yeah for like yeah, I
Speaker 3: was like what the yeah, no, it was crazy.
Speaker 2: But back in the day, I'm sure that people are
Speaker 2: listening down and saying, yeah, it was about that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sometimes definitely have changed, man, yeah, no, it has, especially
Speaker 2: if you're an athlete. So we'll talk to Rocky Lowers
Speaker 2: the Rose about that. Maybe if she get an idea
Speaker 2: of what you would think about how to improve it.
Speaker 2: That's the million dollar question or the however, million million
Speaker 2: dollar question, because I don't know anybody knows how to fix,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's gonna be like, it's gonna take
Speaker 2: a while. Let me ask you something.
Speaker 3: If and I gets too out of hand, do you
Speaker 3: think they're gonna take it away or no?
Speaker 2: No, no no, Because now now in the next they're
Speaker 2: trying to solve the problem of having to pay the
Speaker 2: students twenty million dollars a year. I mean, that's gonna
Speaker 2: bev and that's that's that's on the table. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: not gonna be taken out the table. So imagine you
Speaker 2: guys are born at least four years too early, because
Speaker 2: if you were born, I.
Speaker 3: Like, even right now, it's like even my age is
Speaker 3: still guess how I'm like, I mean, you got Travis
Speaker 3: Hunter making like commercial.
Speaker 4: Five million dollars, but then yeah, in five years, it's
Speaker 4: gonna be even crazy.
Speaker 3: Imagine now twenty million in college. Now I don't think
Speaker 3: you I don't know, I don't think you will no, no, but.
Speaker 2: I'm talking twenty million dollars for the university sports athletic deportment.
Speaker 2: Whoever's playing right play gets gets coined. That's still a
Speaker 2: lot of money. Yeah, I'm not sure where they find it.
Speaker 2: This is already you guys are broke. I'm assuming you
Speaker 2: guys are broke kid in college. Yeah, but having a
Speaker 2: good time. You have some run, you know, but now
Speaker 2: you're kind of broke. Now they're asking you to get
Speaker 2: dig more deep into your pockets. But I'm already broke.
Speaker 2: Or do you find that money? You don't? You just yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Now they know why Arizona's debt the
Speaker 2: millions because they went too deep. And then if you're
Speaker 2: already too deep, or you get that money to replenish
Speaker 2: the deep, got some loans, I don't know. That's been
Speaker 2: part of the Yeah, that's been part of the problem.
Speaker 2: You know, you guys part of aren't studying economics, so
Speaker 2: I didn't got those mic pockets are deep. But you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, it's that your parents tell you, son,
Speaker 2: I can't I can't get you this thing because we
Speaker 2: don't have enough money. They wish. I wish I could.
Speaker 2: But if you do get it, guess what we don't need.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see. Hey, it's already to be fourteen.
Speaker 2: Good discussion. We're going to talk to Matt Melbach here
Speaker 2: on the other side. Thanks Matt, Now.
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Speaker 8: on the Ball with Steve Rovera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to In the Ball Hero Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty tons Steve Rivera in would be to day,
Speaker 2: Henry and Matt. Now we have Matt Meulebox on the phone. Matt,
Speaker 2: how are you.
Speaker 5: I'm good, Steve.
Speaker 2: How you doing? I'm doing fine. Hey, good to talk
Speaker 2: to you. You're like mister mister world traveler everywhere you go.
Speaker 2: Are you Are you settled here in Tucson for a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'm always settling Tucson. But great home base
Speaker 7: and uh, you know, got.
Speaker 16: Some fun things that I get to travel for, certainly
Speaker 16: you know during the basketball season and uh, you know
Speaker 16: that's that's all coming up.
Speaker 2: So do you do you already who you're working with?
Speaker 2: Now there's no PAC twelve, So what the heck you doing?
Speaker 7: My employer is deceased.
Speaker 16: Yeah, so you know we're hopefully it's gonna be a
Speaker 16: number of different networks. Uh, you know, I've I've done
Speaker 16: stuff in the past with FS one and Fox. I'm
Speaker 16: waiting on my schedule from them.
Speaker 7: I've got some ESPN Plus games.
Speaker 16: I've got some actually some pack I don't know what
Speaker 16: you'd call it right now, pack two, pack six, pack eight,
Speaker 16: I've got some of those games. So I've got like
Speaker 16: a myriad of things going on. And yeah, so I'm
Speaker 16: gonna be doing games again, and not sure exactly what
Speaker 16: the schedules, you know, last couple of years or the
Speaker 16: last ten years. Really I had a pretty good idea
Speaker 16: as of this time, at least kind of conceptually what
Speaker 16: it would be. But you know, it's gonna be a
Speaker 16: little bit different this year, but it should be fun nonetheless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question. And you're gonna be going to your
Speaker 2: old stopping grounds at least in the areas right of
Speaker 2: the Big twelve. I'm sure you're excited about that.
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, again, I don't know the whole schedule,
Speaker 16: but yeah, that'd be awesome. Spent my one year, you know,
Speaker 16: one year in Kansas City, my senior year in high school.
Speaker 16: And my family's from the Midwest, so you know, know
Speaker 16: that part of the of the country pretty well, huge,
Speaker 16: huge KU fans in that area. In fact, my in
Speaker 16: laws are all KU people and pretty passionate fan base.
Speaker 7: It's going to be fun to you know.
Speaker 16: I mean, we're seeing a little bit at football, which
Speaker 16: I think has been fun, but you know, I let's
Speaker 16: let's be honest, we're going to see it in you know,
Speaker 16: even more in basketball, just because of the quality of
Speaker 16: that conference, the best in the country, right right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no question. So so I was telling I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I have a couple of my interns here today, Matt
Speaker 2: and Henry, and I was telling them that you're the
Speaker 2: winningness of U a player in the history of the program.
Speaker 2: And I'll say that with an asterisk because I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's changed or not. But you never lost
Speaker 2: in Michale. Do you know if I think you want
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventeen, I'm sure you know right on
Speaker 2: the top of your head.
Speaker 7: I actually don't. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 16: I do remember that dussan Ristitch I think cast.
Speaker 7: Me yest year. Yes, so I know I think he
Speaker 7: was ahead of me. There may haven't even been one
Speaker 7: other person.
Speaker 16: I don't know who it was, but I think I'm
Speaker 16: still there, like top two or three there is.
Speaker 2: But as you and I may have talked before is okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: there ahead, but uh, I think that Sean got knocked
Speaker 2: a few games on his probation or whatever.
Speaker 7: It was, so they just played.
Speaker 16: They just played more games and uh so. Uh in fact,
Speaker 16: I know they played more games these days because of
Speaker 16: all the.
Speaker 7: You know, non conference tournaments and that sort of thing.
Speaker 16: We used to have, Like if we had one tournament
Speaker 16: a year, it was a lot, and we would have
Speaker 16: as you know, like some made for TV stuff we have,
Speaker 16: like the tip Off Classic in in in Massachusetts or whatever.
Speaker 7: And sometimes there's just one game.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, And and I'm not trying to promote you
Speaker 2: or to alibi them or whatever or you uh, back
Speaker 2: in the day, you guys had tougher schedules.
Speaker 16: We did, and and you know, to some degree, I
Speaker 16: mean there's some complaints about it, but you know, look,
Speaker 16: there's here's the deal. Their's on a fan base wants
Speaker 16: their team to do well in March, right. I think
Speaker 16: I think that's more important. As much as we'd all
Speaker 16: love to see, you know, six seven home games at
Speaker 16: McHale that are due in Michigan State, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 7: You know you're gonna get one. You know, and maybe two.
Speaker 16: And the way it works these days, it just it
Speaker 16: just happens to work that you have to play in
Speaker 16: those those non con you know, away from campus stuff,
Speaker 16: and it's it's all, you know, it's it's a huge art.
Speaker 16: It's not a science. It's an art that they've got
Speaker 16: to figure out every year, and it's it's it's all
Speaker 16: about placing them in the best position in March. And
Speaker 16: I get it, like, if you're a season ticket holder,
Speaker 16: you'd like to see you know, the bigger ones non conference. However,
Speaker 16: I will say, like, you know, now, let's just call
Speaker 16: it what it is. You're gonna get better games at
Speaker 16: McHale in the big twelve. You just you just are
Speaker 16: and hopefully you of a will continue doing like a
Speaker 16: game or two in Phoenix, maybe in Vegas. Of course
Speaker 16: they're gonna have those tournaments I just saw there and
Speaker 16: then Maui coming up the next year, the following year,
Speaker 16: so you know, so he can go see him in
Speaker 16: those locations if they if they have the means to
Speaker 16: do it. And you know, I've always said it's pretty
Speaker 16: awesome to sit back the night before Thanksgiving or Thanksgiving
Speaker 16: and watch your team plate Duke you know, like in
Speaker 16: New York and see him win, you know, like those
Speaker 16: are those are some pretty cool things.
Speaker 7: Granted it's not a Michale.
Speaker 16: We'd like to all have it, but the way the
Speaker 16: way the schedules are set up these days, they just
Speaker 16: have to do it.
Speaker 7: It's it's part of the team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know the schedule better than most and you
Speaker 2: know the conferences, given the Big twelves power and how
Speaker 2: good they are. And we've we've valueued this this topic
Speaker 2: last ten days whatever. So Arizon is now in the
Speaker 2: Big twelve. It's gonna be a fantastic schedule. Like you said,
Speaker 2: they'll probably take more losses than they have in the past. However,
Speaker 2: they'll be prepared for what's important, and that's March. But
Speaker 2: will they have been beaten up by the time they
Speaker 2: get to March? So is it a catch twenty Is
Speaker 2: it a catch twenty two? You're kind of prepared more
Speaker 2: at least to know what you're gonna be up against.
Speaker 2: But if you're tired and you're beat up and you're whatever,
Speaker 2: what does that mean?
Speaker 16: Yeah? I think that goes into it, right. I think
Speaker 16: Tommy's Tommy and his staff have to do a good
Speaker 16: job of understanding that you know, playing you know, maybe
Speaker 16: not playing the same minutes they've played that that could
Speaker 16: be an issue. But you know, look, I'll use the
Speaker 16: Kevin O'Neill line. You know these guys are twenty years old.
Speaker 16: Yeah too, Like like you know, we at that age,
Speaker 16: we all love playing basketball. We all we all bitched
Speaker 16: if we went out. Yeah, nobody wanted to sit on
Speaker 16: the bench. So if I'm playing thirty five minutes, like
Speaker 16: you got to, you gotta kind of bring it. And
Speaker 16: you know, and these guys are young, their bodies are like, look,
Speaker 16: they get pounded. Like I've always said, what what college
Speaker 16: athletes do, like in basketball or football and especially through athletes.
Speaker 16: Your body's not made to do that. And you know,
Speaker 16: you find out about it when you're you know, in
Speaker 16: your fifties like me.
Speaker 7: But at that age, you know, you got no problem
Speaker 7: doing it. You can do it. You know it's now.
Speaker 16: Granted, I get it what you're saying, and I should
Speaker 16: say too, I didn't even mention this with that non
Speaker 16: with those schedules that we just talked about. With it said,
Speaker 16: and with the challenges of playing home games, Tommy plays
Speaker 16: the hardest one of anybody, like go around the country
Speaker 16: and look at everybody else's non conference games at home, Like,
Speaker 16: you know, he plays as hard a one as and
Speaker 16: as fun for the fans as anyone does. You know,
Speaker 16: you're gonna get Duke at home, you know, in Tucson,
Speaker 16: Like I would rather have Duke at home than three
Speaker 16: good middle of the range games, you know.
Speaker 7: And and to your point too, like you.
Speaker 16: Just mentioned getting beat up in the Big Twelve. You
Speaker 16: can't have a schedule that's Duke Carolina, Kentucky and you know,
Speaker 16: Michigan State in November and December and then jump into
Speaker 16: January and February and the Big Twelve, because then you really.
Speaker 7: Will get beat up.
Speaker 2: Sure, hey it's bad here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we already know Arizona is going to have
Speaker 3: a tough season because of the new conference during but like,
Speaker 3: what's what's your expectation after the season when we talk
Speaker 3: about final fours and all that, what what do you
Speaker 3: want them to do? I know we want to go
Speaker 3: all the way, but like what would Yeah.
Speaker 16: I mean, here's my take.
Speaker 7: My take is this.
Speaker 16: You know, you get to a final four, any team
Speaker 16: in any school, when you get to a final four,
Speaker 16: you're you're like legendary status.
Speaker 7: You go down in history.
Speaker 16: And if you win it, then it's like next level legendary.
Speaker 16: But if you get to a Final four, it's legendary.
Speaker 16: It's what we all wanted as players. It's it's the
Speaker 16: kind of goal from especially the u of a program
Speaker 16: from gig one. My my my take is this, it's
Speaker 16: like a golfer. You know, you can't always win a major,
Speaker 16: but if you put yourself there on Sunday at the
Speaker 16: start of the round or on the start.
Speaker 7: Of the back nine, and you're in the mix, you're
Speaker 7: to win some and you lose some.
Speaker 16: And I think for a team like this and Tommy's
Speaker 16: done it. Tommy's done it, what two out of three
Speaker 16: years that he's been in Tucson. You get your team
Speaker 16: to a Sweet sixteen. If you get there, you're two
Speaker 16: games away. Like it's just it's two good, solid games.
Speaker 16: You got to shoot it well, you gotta play well,
Speaker 16: and you are in legendary status. Now, they didn't get there.
Speaker 16: You know, three years ago they got a horrible seed
Speaker 16: against Houston. Houston should have been like a one seed
Speaker 16: or a two seed. That should have been a final
Speaker 16: four game. Not to mention, they got into San Antonio,
Speaker 16: So it was a really tough matchup. Last year, I
Speaker 16: thought they were better than Clemson. They had a rough
Speaker 16: shooting game, they didn't shoot.
Speaker 7: It well and they got bounced, you know.
Speaker 16: And so my thing is give yourself opportunities to keep
Speaker 16: getting yourself into a sweet sixteen. If you do that,
Speaker 16: you know you're gonna have times where it connects, you're
Speaker 16: gonna get the breaks, the ball is gonna bounce the
Speaker 16: right way, and you're gonna get some final fours.
Speaker 3: Would you say this year is like the best year
Speaker 3: for them to go all the way?
Speaker 16: You know, it's definitely up there. I thought three years
Speaker 16: ago they were outstanding. Let's let's remember they had three
Speaker 16: like top thirty picks, and yep, they were. They were
Speaker 16: pretty outstanding. But I think I think Tommy and his
Speaker 16: teams have matured. I think they're a little more physical,
Speaker 16: and I think so let me just jump into this year.
Speaker 16: I've been to one practice. I'm going to go to
Speaker 16: some more in the next couple of weeks. I got
Speaker 16: their first couple of exhibition games, and what I noticed
Speaker 16: more than anything was two things. I noticed two things
Speaker 16: just how physical they were playing, and you could see
Speaker 16: it was already a thing, it was already talked about.
Speaker 7: They were implementing a more physical.
Speaker 16: Style, and I felt like I felt like there was
Speaker 16: more focus on defense. And I'll tell you I ran
Speaker 16: into Caleb Love somewhere in the last few weeks and
Speaker 16: I was talking to him and the first thing out
Speaker 16: of his mouth was, Hey, We're gonna be better defensively,
Speaker 16: And I thought that was that was telling.
Speaker 2: Me, we are you mostly excited to see when the
Speaker 2: season comes.
Speaker 16: God's a great question. I hadn't thought about that. You know,
Speaker 16: for me, the two guys that probably jump out are
Speaker 16: Jade and Bradley. I want to see him play the
Speaker 16: point with extended minutes. You know, he looked really good
Speaker 16: the last three or four games of the season last year,
Speaker 16: like a guy that is going to take not a
Speaker 16: step or a leap up, but you know, like two
Speaker 16: levels up.
Speaker 7: And so I'm excited about him.
Speaker 16: And I think for the same reason the guy that
Speaker 16: played kind of opposite him when they would come in
Speaker 16: off the bench, kJ lewis like both of those guys
Speaker 16: from our position, do they like there's no pun intending
Speaker 16: is kJ can bounce, but do they bounce up? You know,
Speaker 16: levels this year and become you know, like NBA like
Speaker 16: like for sure NBA guys that you're like, damn, those
Speaker 16: guys are good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question that. I had Rhino on yesterday and
Speaker 2: I talked about those three with love and kJ and
Speaker 2: Jayden as you know, the best some of the best
Speaker 2: three back in the back court since you know, the
Speaker 2: Reggie and Celine, dun and Damon and played and then
Speaker 2: you had Bibby and Miles and you had Dickerson. So
Speaker 2: but let me ask you, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever asked you. Uh, you're talking
Speaker 2: about the Sweet sixteen and the success. It's been twenty
Speaker 2: four years since, uh it was on a went to
Speaker 2: the final four. You were just a young man back then.
Speaker 2: But but let me say, what if what if lut
Speaker 2: had never won the title? What do you think his
Speaker 2: legacy would have been? And because he had a couple
Speaker 2: of chances even after that, even after that.
Speaker 16: Title, Yeah, you know, I think I think, sadly, it
Speaker 16: would have been less right, it would have been you know,
Speaker 16: there's some teams out there that haven't closed the deal.
Speaker 16: I'm trying to think of like a Purdue, Purdue, you know, a.
Speaker 16: Purdue has always thought of as a really good program.
Speaker 16: But I think was last year the first final four
Speaker 16: they've ever had, maybe the second, maybe the first.
Speaker 7: But I don't, I don't put them like I don't think.
Speaker 7: But let me put it this way.
Speaker 16: Had Arizona won five championships, fourst they would be in
Speaker 16: the top status. They would be with Kentucky KUH even
Speaker 16: U c l A all these years later because they
Speaker 16: won eleven of them. But Kentucky KU, you know, do
Speaker 16: those teams but they didn't.
Speaker 7: They didn't. So I think as we sit.
Speaker 16: Here, I think you have as you know, historic is
Speaker 16: is sort of that second level. It's Arizona, Indiana, Syracuse,
Speaker 16: Michigan State, you know whatever. That kind of second frame
Speaker 16: of teams is, which is amazing, you know, which is
Speaker 16: just you know, think about when Luke came here.
Speaker 7: The thought of that.
Speaker 16: Happening there, you know, was probably you know, one in
Speaker 16: a million, yea or maybe not that high, but you know,
Speaker 16: you get and but but but I say this, you
Speaker 16: don't put.
Speaker 7: For doing that category, you know, you don't.
Speaker 16: You don't putting Georgetown eight teams, Georgetown, George, even Georgetown
Speaker 16: who fell apart, you know at times the last thirty years.
Speaker 16: So you know, Arizona's in that second level. And I
Speaker 16: think it's not only because of the longevity the dozens
Speaker 16: of NBA players and stars and contracts and just historic
Speaker 16: games and all that stuff and a million I think
Speaker 16: I read something from the staff this year that they
Speaker 16: during the PAC twelve and PAC ten era won twenty
Speaker 16: eight different either the league or the tournament championships something
Speaker 16: like that, like no one's even close, right, and and
Speaker 16: but I don't think Arizona's in that level without a title.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was just curious with your thoughts. In fact,
Speaker 2: I might quote you in a story that I'm gonna
Speaker 2: do the in the guards. So let's go to the
Speaker 2: guards real quick, and then I want to ask you
Speaker 2: about your your your hometown, Kansas City. It's kind of
Speaker 2: gone bersik, But let me ask you about the three
Speaker 2: guards that they have compared to the other guards I
Speaker 2: mentioned with Bibbie and Miles and Dickerson, and in those
Speaker 2: of them, Oh.
Speaker 7: How do I put how do I stack them?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 16: I think I think that this year time will tell, right.
Speaker 16: I think the the greatest guard combo you would have
Speaker 16: to say was Bibby Miles and Dickerson right and carry
Speaker 16: off the pitch like, I don't think anyone touched those
Speaker 16: those four now now right, probably in second place or
Speaker 16: almost a tie for second. You would put the ninety
Speaker 16: fourteen with with Reggie Stodd and and care and then
Speaker 16: you'd probably put them in the tie with the one
Speaker 16: guys with uh with you know Gardener, Gilbert and Ke
Speaker 16: and Luke and Luke. Yeah, yeah, and so you know,
Speaker 16: I I uh, I mean that's that's those are probably
Speaker 16: the top three of all time?
Speaker 7: Is this group in that? I mean, I think I
Speaker 7: think they're in the conversation.
Speaker 16: They've got a lot They've got some stuff to prove
Speaker 16: this year because again, like I said, you know, Jayden
Speaker 16: hasn't done it as a starter yet, and he will.
Speaker 16: I think I have a lot of confidence in him.
Speaker 16: kJ same thing, you know, he's he's now sophomore year,
Speaker 16: is going to be a starter. Hell has gone. He
Speaker 16: takes over that position.
Speaker 7: And same with Kayleb. You know what's interesting about Caleb.
Speaker 7: I believe Caleb is the first player since.
Speaker 16: Sean Elliott that won the PAC twelve Player of the
Speaker 16: Year to come back to college. So his it's it's
Speaker 16: funny because you know, he had such a great year.
Speaker 16: He's the PAC twelve Player of the year. Those are
Speaker 16: those are like the type of things you go into
Speaker 16: the Hall of Fame for at u of a right
Speaker 16: and what do we remember about him? Kind of the
Speaker 16: last game he didn't play well, didn't shoot it, and
Speaker 16: people kind of almost dismissed that he's back. He's the
Speaker 16: PAC twelve Player of the year.
Speaker 7: That's pretty sensational.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's a great that's a great come. I
Speaker 2: have to go research, I have to fact check you,
Speaker 2: but I think that's a good one.
Speaker 7: That's right.
Speaker 2: Lastly, because we've got to go in a little bit,
Speaker 2: your hometown, hometown team is the Casey Royals and Casey Chiefs.
Speaker 2: What the world's going on with this thing?
Speaker 16: Well, as you know, Steve, I moved from Casey to
Speaker 16: the Barria, so my team's growing up were Casey Royals,
Speaker 16: Chiefs and the Lawyers because the Kings had left ca C.
Speaker 16: So I became a Warriors fan grow up in the
Speaker 16: Brea had nothing to do with Twenty five years later.
Speaker 7: One of my best friends became the coach.
Speaker 16: And I went other than the eighty five Royals won
Speaker 16: the World Series in eighty five.
Speaker 7: Other than that, I waited fifty.
Speaker 16: Years until the Chiefs went to a Super Bowl. The
Speaker 16: Royals were one of the worst teams in baseball.
Speaker 7: The Warriors.
Speaker 16: I waited for forty years to do anything, and all
Speaker 16: of a sudden in fourteen, I've had the Royals in
Speaker 16: two World Series. And since the last ten years, I've
Speaker 16: had the Royals and two World Series, the Chiefs and
Speaker 16: four Super Bowls, the Warriors in five World Championships. So
Speaker 16: I've been you know, we all have our teams. Yeah, typically,
Speaker 16: as we all know, in the year crying and hoping
Speaker 16: for a better year next year. Yeah, And I've been lucky.
Speaker 7: I've had ten great.
Speaker 16: Years with those teams that that usually doesn't happen. For
Speaker 16: fifty years, I didn't have it. You know, it wasn't
Speaker 16: happening the Matt mule Buck. All of a sudden, the
Speaker 16: Matt Mubu.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 16: So now you know, root from my hometown team, the Wildcats,
Speaker 16: and see what see what they can do.
Speaker 2: Well, it's been It's not like the girl in the
Speaker 2: title Lady in Titanic. He's been eighty four years. But
Speaker 2: it's been a long time since you've been to the
Speaker 2: final four.
Speaker 16: That's right, that's right, right, Well, I think Tommy is
Speaker 16: the guy to do it. Tommy's Tommy is a special coach.
Speaker 16: He's a special guy.
Speaker 7: He gets he gets it on many yes, right, and
Speaker 7: he's going to figure it out.
Speaker 16: He's going to put us in position and tea not us,
Speaker 16: the team in position, and you know, hey, I think
Speaker 16: it's going to happen, and it's going to happen probably.
Speaker 2: Well, you're a US. You've been there, done that and
Speaker 2: all that for you. Hey man, good to see you,
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you. We'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 7: Thank you, Thank you always fun.
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Speaker 2: You know exactly. I was gonna say the draft Kings
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Speaker 2: is it still going?
Speaker 4: I was gonna talk about right now the Jonathan give
Speaker 4: me an NBA draft analyst. He released his top one
Speaker 4: hundred and there were five Arizona guys.
Speaker 2: In the really top one hundred, Okay, top one hundred.
Speaker 2: Don't say what they are until we get breaking news
Speaker 2: on the other side. Do you have the list there?
Speaker 15: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean we could talk about it. You have enough
Speaker 2: stuff for next hour? Yeah, go ahead? That okay.
Speaker 4: We got Carter Brian at thirteen, Crevass at seventeen, kJ
Speaker 4: Lewis thirty four.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, so go go slow because I just
Speaker 2: was looked Carter Bryant thirteen.
Speaker 4: Really really for this year, for the next twenty twenty
Speaker 4: five during.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you why, but go ahead.
Speaker 4: Uh, crevos Is at seventeen, kJ Lewis is at thirty four,
Speaker 4: Jaden Bradley fifty five, and Caleb Love eighty nine.
Speaker 2: What's anything they're surprised you? I think that Hi, yeah,
Speaker 2: well that's one. I think that's the second high, the
Speaker 2: second thing for me. I think Carter Bryant, that's fair.
Speaker 2: I think fair, you know, in my mind before Matt
Speaker 2: thinks about what he wants to say, I think kJ
Speaker 2: Lewis is the shoe on or shoe in for being
Speaker 2: the best NBA prospect right now.
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna take away the fact because he's
Speaker 4: a sophomore. Because you know, the NBA teams I love
Speaker 4: their their freshman guy.
Speaker 2: Freshman, but he's but he's Yeah, but if he's the
Speaker 2: best prospect, why would you have him that low thirty something?
Speaker 2: I bet you, I bet you now that he goes
Speaker 2: in the first round. Yeah, I agree, I think once
Speaker 2: the season starts. Yeah, and you you talked about Bryant
Speaker 2: being shocked to.
Speaker 4: Me, wait, is this all time? This is just for
Speaker 4: the draft draft next year?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So Brian Bryant, I know he's a talent. I
Speaker 2: haven't really seen him a whole heck of a lot
Speaker 2: in high school some you know, red blue, What do
Speaker 2: you learned from there? Or nothing? But no question, he's versatile,
Speaker 2: he's good. But seventeen, I'm not surely he'll even have
Speaker 2: that much of an impact on this team. Although he's
Speaker 2: gonna have an impact, I won't go not say that,
Speaker 2: but I think that kJ Lewis and and Love and
Speaker 2: the other guy is gonna probably have more of an impact.
Speaker 2: He was at eighty nine eighty nine, So this tells
Speaker 2: you what? Doesn't that shock you too? Yeah? I think
Speaker 2: that the age is definitely a big thing for that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't like how they they overvalue young guys too much.
Speaker 2: Nowadays, we like a negative stigma and players staying yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I agree with you there, because if you could play,
Speaker 2: all right, you could play.
Speaker 3: Here's the problem. Go ahead, you guys. Remember that one
Speaker 3: guard from Seaton Hall I forgot his name, Powell.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, us now you're so called.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I feel like because he sayd four years,
Speaker 3: people looked at him like but he was.
Speaker 2: So But if he's good good, why wouldn't he be
Speaker 2: able to play in the NBA. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It must lack something because if you're good, the NBA
Speaker 2: teams are gonna say, come and play for us.
Speaker 4: It's still not teams that are players that go four
Speaker 4: years still, you know, get like home Hawk is he
Speaker 4: played four years, he's still first because he.
Speaker 2: Can play and he's worth something. For Caleb, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: know what he's lacking, but he's obviously lacking something where
Speaker 2: they don't trust him offensively, they don't trust him defensively,
Speaker 2: or they just don't they know things that we don't know.
Speaker 4: I think his offense can get to the NBA level, so
Speaker 4: I don't sure, but he has to be more consistent,
Speaker 4: more consistent. But the guy can score here's your issue.
Speaker 4: Do we get a call? Okay, Hey, you're on the
Speaker 4: air and nine on the ball.
Speaker 2: This is Steve maybe in real hope. You're on the
Speaker 2: air and eye on the ball. This is Steve.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 2: Hello, we're trying. We're trying. If you're hearing us, Hello, Hey,
Speaker 2: you're on the air and eye on the ball. Hey
Speaker 2: who's that?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, it's the guy that makes the most remotes.
Speaker 5: But I can't come tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Oh hey, Howard, how are you good? How are you
Speaker 2: doing good? What's the word?
Speaker 4: The word is?
Speaker 5: I know? I was like ready to push the pianic button.
Speaker 5: And then you talk with Matt about the rough and
Speaker 5: tough Big twelve. It's like, aren't you allowed twelve scholarships?
Speaker 5: We you know, a couple weeks ago you said we
Speaker 5: only have nine.
Speaker 2: Right, that's the way he's choosing to do it. It
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense to some of us. But he's
Speaker 2: going to only go nine deep anyway with the season
Speaker 2: if he goes that far. So it's kind of a
Speaker 2: conundrum or a puzzle for us right now because he's
Speaker 2: not gonna go with twelve. He wouldn't play twelve anyway
Speaker 2: he has right now, He has ten walk ons, ten
Speaker 2: eleven walk on So there's that.
Speaker 7: I've got that many.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but for whatever reason. You know his son, well,
Speaker 2: let me tell you. His son's a walk on. Desiree's
Speaker 2: sons a walk on from Zuri. He has Grant Whiteman
Speaker 2: and a others from last year as GA. You know,
Speaker 2: a long time guys for five year guys. So the
Speaker 2: bench is there, it's just not it's just not a
Speaker 2: really playable bench.
Speaker 5: Well it's white man. I guess if you're a walk
Speaker 5: and you could play twenty.
Speaker 2: Years, right, you could play at least five right.
Speaker 5: So just it seems like he's been there a yeah.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you, are you concerned with the
Speaker 2: PAC twelve packed Big twelve schedule?
Speaker 5: Well, not really. I'm just I'm still amped up. I
Speaker 5: can't wait to.
Speaker 7: Go to games.
Speaker 5: And when you're a young man, they're read the rankings
Speaker 5: of how they're supposed to come in the NBA. I
Speaker 5: think I have to buy some cards when they're rookies
Speaker 5: the next year, because I agree. I saw k J.
Speaker 5: Lewis and the warm up line of the three Point
Speaker 5: Contest live. I thought he was the best player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's the best NBA prospect. To have
Speaker 2: him that low right now, to me is kind of
Speaker 2: a shock. Uh, and Crevis that high, like said, because
Speaker 2: he's also but he's not freshman.
Speaker 5: He's a sophomore too, so well he's yeah, he's a somber,
Speaker 5: but he's a yurope and they're pretty strong. He's just
Speaker 5: got to work on his body.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, that's it. He's not he's not a
Speaker 2: mobile big guy either.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, putting more bulk is not gonna make.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, he's he's more of a he's more
Speaker 2: of a plotting center. And how many plotting centers do
Speaker 2: you have in the NBA?
Speaker 5: Well, most of them are our Phoenix Suns guy. But
Speaker 5: he's slimmed down. But it's just like he's he's must
Speaker 5: be taking notes from our our woman, Lady Cat's coach
Speaker 5: because she just likes to not have many scholarships because
Speaker 5: of her drama. Just ladies have more drama.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's send letters to Howard, not to me.
Speaker 2: All right, Howard, Hey, you're not going to be at
Speaker 2: the Caacino tomorrow.
Speaker 5: I assume no, because I got I'm going to play
Speaker 5: poker later that night right by my house and my
Speaker 5: son and I are going to go up to the
Speaker 5: casino in Phoenix. Plus, I'm gonna attend a card show.
Speaker 2: Busy George is doing it. I saw that. I saw
Speaker 2: that I need to check. I saw that it's a
Speaker 2: big card show this weekend.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, because I can put some.
Speaker 2: In for well, let's talk. Let's talk off air. What
Speaker 2: are you gonna be going up to Phoenix Saturday Sunday.
Speaker 5: Oh, it's just we're gonna stay Saturday night because I'm
Speaker 5: gonna put my cards in. Oh, okay, you know, to
Speaker 5: get for this other company. It's funny. I came here
Speaker 5: from a card shop. Not George is the other guy.
Speaker 5: He's a real nice guy. George is so personable, he's friendly.
Speaker 5: The other guy that has a card shopped right right right,
Speaker 5: he's a younger guy and he's really nice and smart.
Speaker 5: Right Matt, But okay, I went to him. Were you
Speaker 5: guys off air?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, we're on. We're still on. We're still on. Okay,
Speaker 2: so we'll we'll talk this week.
Speaker 5: You might call tomorrow.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you later, thank you. It was Howard, Thank
Speaker 2: you Howard. We only got about a minute left. What
Speaker 2: does it say there, yeah, fifty four, fifty four got
Speaker 2: about a minute. Okay, cool, Hey, thanks calling for calling Howard.
Speaker 2: Maybe we revisit. You're gonna have some more breaking news, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't think that the kidom loved thing is weird?
Speaker 4: I do, but you know, I'm not surprised by it,
Speaker 4: I will say, after what happened, after he didn't even
Speaker 4: make the get a combine invite, he only got a
Speaker 4: G League combine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something there. There's something there that that we
Speaker 2: don't see exactly or don't know. Yeah, okay, are you ready.
Speaker 2: We'll take a break and come back on the other
Speaker 2: side with breaking news