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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue and sider Dick Gabriel with

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<v Speaker 1>you Wednesday edition of our show, which means we will

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<v Speaker 1>be visiting but unforgettable. Guard Sean Woods will talk about basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're going to talk about coaching in general because

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<v Speaker 1>there's been so much said and written about Mark Stoops

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<v Speaker 1>in the way he is coaching his team. So Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>of course a veteran of the college basketball coaching business.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course it is Wednesday meeting. We'll talk with West

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<v Speaker 1>End Bureau chief Gary Moore, and we're gonna bring in

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<v Speaker 1>Van Hiles. We usually don't lean on Van quite as

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<v Speaker 1>much because you hear him on Sunday Morning Sports Talk,

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<v Speaker 1>you hear Mom with Tom on Monday mornings. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just have to get his response to what happened with Vanderbilt.

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<v Speaker 1>So Van Hiles will teach us some football coming up

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom of this hour, so stick around for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of coaching and teaching, I follow Tony Franklin on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter or actually whatever you want to call it. Tony

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<v Speaker 1>is the former UK assistant who was here when Mummy

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<v Speaker 1>went down in flames, and you know, Claude Bassett tried

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<v Speaker 1>to paint him as the bad guy, the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>turned Kentucky into the NCAA, which he did not. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why he wrote his tell all book, which a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people still disapprove of and still don't like him

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<v Speaker 1>for doing it. I don't blame him though ordinarily I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like that, but he thought his career was over,

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<v Speaker 1>and really, in fact it was at that point because

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<v Speaker 1>he was being blacklisted, and he finally broke through and

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<v Speaker 1>got back into college coaching. And as I've said before,

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<v Speaker 1>he was the quarterbacks coach for Jared Goff at Cal

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<v Speaker 1>coach the number one draft pick and a guy's doing

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<v Speaker 1>pretty well now with the Lions. And he was the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who coached or rather quarterback the Rams to his

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl early in his career. So anyhow, Tony now

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<v Speaker 1>has his own consulting business, it's coach tf dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>but he also posts on Twitter basic messages kind of

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<v Speaker 1>coaching the coaches, and his latest post or one of

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<v Speaker 1>his latest on Twitter was sick steps to how to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with your team during I guess the midway point

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<v Speaker 1>of the season, and he said, do this fix what's

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<v Speaker 1>broken with details and fundamentals. Don't panic, You're not as

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<v Speaker 1>bad as you look. Don't celebrate. You're not as good

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<v Speaker 1>as you look. Coaching really matters now in all caps

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<v Speaker 1>and in parentheses. Adjust number five one on one meetings

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<v Speaker 1>with players and coaches. Number six, get healthy, and you

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<v Speaker 1>think about any college football team in America, any high

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<v Speaker 1>school team. This is great advice. But apply this to

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky clearly they need to fix what's broken with details.

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<v Speaker 1>How about you know, playing cleaner and fundamentals, that's all

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<v Speaker 1>hand in hand. Don't panic. So many fans have nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrate right now. But everybody's celebrated after the old

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<v Speaker 1>miss win, big win. But you're never as good as

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<v Speaker 1>you look. Coaching really matters now, of course it does,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely it does for not just the Wildcats, but everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>One on one meetings with players and coaches and get healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now about that one on one meeting thing. Mark Stoops

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<v Speaker 1>has been doing that with leaders and Eli Cox, the

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<v Speaker 1>veteran center. Now offensive linemen. Talk about that with the media,

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<v Speaker 1>and how the Wildcats are going to try to go

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<v Speaker 1>about fixing what's wrong right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Just talk about emotional control amongst the chaos. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday is a chaotic environment. Everyone's fans have been fantastic. Course,

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<v Speaker 2>for the home games. I mean, can't thank them enough

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<v Speaker 2>for the environment they've created here, and we need to

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<v Speaker 2>feed off that, but also not let it take us

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<v Speaker 2>past the whistle where it creates those penalties that are

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<v Speaker 2>shooting ourselves in the foot on both sides of the

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<v Speaker 2>ball and not letting us finish drives on offense. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of the message to the guys in lockers

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<v Speaker 2>to feed off that environment, to let those emotions be there,

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<v Speaker 2>but in a healthy way, and not let it escalate

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<v Speaker 2>pass the whistle to the s of mistakes that you

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<v Speaker 2>saw on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I've ever heard that term used

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<v Speaker 1>emotional control, but that's as good as anything and it's

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<v Speaker 1>right to the point, isn't it. And according to Cox,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not something that you think about pregame. It starts

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<v Speaker 1>like everything in practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's something you start with those habits

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<v Speaker 2>of practice being blocked into the plays because every football

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<v Speaker 2>snap is absolute chaos. I mean, there's bullets flying in

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<v Speaker 2>every which direction, and I think just a certain level

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<v Speaker 2>of maturity is required for our guys that are in

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<v Speaker 2>the game and understanding that you do need to play

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<v Speaker 2>with a healthy emotion in between the snaps, because if

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<v Speaker 2>you came out flat, you'd have the exact same result,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even worse. Because I don't think this team's ever

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<v Speaker 2>come out flat this season. I think we come out

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<v Speaker 2>with the right intentions with the juice, but again it's

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<v Speaker 2>tricking past the whistle and it's just stupid mistakes that

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<v Speaker 2>we just can't keep having.

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<v Speaker 1>After a loss like that, everybody wants to point fingers,

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<v Speaker 1>especially at the coach, and again, more than more than that,

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<v Speaker 1>I look at the players who make the mistakes. If

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<v Speaker 1>I think the team has played hard and has a

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<v Speaker 1>good game plan, which I thought both of those facets

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<v Speaker 1>were true in the Vandy game. You know, coaches are responsible, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but as far as the players go, they are not

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<v Speaker 1>without responsibility. And Cox said that begins right there in

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this team is a mature one and I

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<v Speaker 2>think we understand that. The way this team felt in

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<v Speaker 2>the locker room after this game, I think was indicative

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<v Speaker 2>of the way we need to correct things. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think we really need to bark and talk at

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<v Speaker 2>each other more about it. Sometimes it's not really the

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<v Speaker 2>way to go. I think this team understands where it

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<v Speaker 2>fell short. Or disappointed the fans, disappointed ourselves, and what

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<v Speaker 2>we need to do to correct and move forward.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see how that all plays out down in

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<v Speaker 1>the Swamp. And again, it's a place where Kentucky knows

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<v Speaker 1>what it's like to win, knows what it's like to

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<v Speaker 1>have a win taken away, knows what it's like to

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<v Speaker 1>get blown out down there. But I do think the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats will play well. But I think Florida is going

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<v Speaker 1>to play about as hard as it can after that

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<v Speaker 1>overtime loss in Knoxville, the Tennessee game it should have won.

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<v Speaker 1>Shifting to basketball very quickly because media days have wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>up down in Birmingham, the media have said the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>the men's team, let's see preseason number twenty three of

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<v Speaker 1>the women number twenty two. Jackson Robinson, a third team

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<v Speaker 1>preseason All Conference pick, and Mark Polk talked to the

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<v Speaker 1>media wearing the equivalent of a letter jacket letterman's jacket.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't recall ever seeing that at media day, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was asked by Ben Roberts of The Hero Leader

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<v Speaker 1>about where are you right now? Basically in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>what are you looking for and what do you have?

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<v Speaker 3>We're blessed to have a really veteran group that's got

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<v Speaker 3>a ton of experience, that's got no experience with each other.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's been since the very very first day

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<v Speaker 3>that we were together, it's been a major piece of

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<v Speaker 3>focus for our guys that understand us and understand each

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<v Speaker 3>other and try and fit together and communicate with each other.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's been the biggest part for us. We

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<v Speaker 3>have guys that bring in exactly the skill sets that

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<v Speaker 3>we're looking for in this first year, and it's just

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<v Speaker 3>a matter of us growing together, and that's something that

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<v Speaker 3>we've done extraordinary well. I think over the course of

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<v Speaker 3>the summer, I've been really proud of our guys and

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<v Speaker 3>into the fall and into Banner Camp, and then the

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<v Speaker 3>next step for us is to actually get on a

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<v Speaker 3>court and play against somebody else and start coming together

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<v Speaker 3>that way too. And so I think we're well on

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<v Speaker 3>next steps.

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<v Speaker 1>Like every college team, they're tired of looking at each other.

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<v Speaker 1>But I got to think it's so unusual the way

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<v Speaker 1>they put this roster together that the curiosity level has

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<v Speaker 1>got to be off the charts. What can we do?

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<v Speaker 1>How can we make this thing work with all these

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<v Speaker 1>new teammates And we've read about them, we've heard about them,

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen them in practice. What can we do in

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<v Speaker 1>a real game? And that's coming up quickly. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think Kentucky, believe it or not, is in a position

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<v Speaker 1>to sneak up on people this year just a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>not for long. That'll take hold very quickly. College football

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<v Speaker 1>TV ratings are soaring. That's coming up next in six

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<v Speaker 1>thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big Moon Sider coming

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<v Speaker 1>up Van Hiles, we'll talk Kentucky football. Van of course

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<v Speaker 1>makes the media rounds every week. I try not to

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<v Speaker 1>call on him too much, you know, because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to wear at our welcome But we just needed

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to him about what happened with that Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>Vandy game. So that's coming up in just a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of TV news when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>sports and especially college sports this week, including the story

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that the SEC and the Big Ten

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about trying to work up more money. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>scheduling we're talking football now. As many as twelve to

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen regular season non conference games every year, SEC and

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<v Speaker 1>big ten are. They are the heavy hitters, the big players.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course this of course prompts me even more

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a super conference. But here we see in

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<v Speaker 1>football now it could be like the ACC SEC Challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>This year they're playing three non conference games. You got USC, LSU, Alabama, Wisconsin, Texas, Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>All three games finished among the top ten most watched

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<v Speaker 1>during the first month of the season when most of

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<v Speaker 1>those games are played, and that is a sign of

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<v Speaker 1>potential financial strength of an arrangement. You know, presidents, ads, chancellors,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call it, on the constant looking

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<v Speaker 1>now for ways to make more money. They have to

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<v Speaker 1>because revenue streams are kind of drying up. Really, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it can only get so much from the contracts they

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<v Speaker 1>signed with individual networks. So if they can cross pollinate

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<v Speaker 1>well that's the way to do it. And whether you

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<v Speaker 1>like it or not, I mean, when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN's college football this past weekend, that Oregon Ohio State

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<v Speaker 1>game was the top rated game, but the SEC commanded

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers in games numbers two and three. Texas OU

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<v Speaker 1>Now an SEC game drew nearly eight million viewers seven

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<v Speaker 1>point nine. That was second. Okay, South Carolina Alabama, believe

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<v Speaker 1>it or not, that game was the third most watched

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<v Speaker 1>game at six point four. And that's a far cry

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<v Speaker 1>from what Oregon Ohio State drew, which was ten point

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<v Speaker 1>two million viewers on average. But still, when you're number

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<v Speaker 1>two and three when it comes to overall viewing as

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<v Speaker 1>a conference, not too bad. Ole Miss LSU four point

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<v Speaker 1>two million viewers in the primetime window on ABC, directly

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<v Speaker 1>in with three point two million viewers at seven pm

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<v Speaker 1>over on ESPN. So the eyeballs are coming for these

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<v Speaker 1>TV networks, and anything the SEC and the Big ten

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<v Speaker 1>can do to pull in even more viewers and command

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<v Speaker 1>more dollars, it's going to happen, whether you like it

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<v Speaker 1>or not. College Game Day. This was the Oregon Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State situation. They're out in Eugene, Oregon, and what a

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<v Speaker 1>crowd at six o'clock in the morning, and they go

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<v Speaker 1>on here at nine am. Well there's three hours behind,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, but the nation tuned in to the

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<v Speaker 1>three hour show to the tune of an average of

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<v Speaker 1>So the viewers are tuning in the super conferences. They're winning,

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<v Speaker 1>but it might bring up some situations that traditional fans

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<v Speaker 1>Good news for the WNBA in terms of ratings, the

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<v Speaker 1>ABC says it averaged one point three to five million viewers,

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<v Speaker 1>were incredibly shortsighted. And again it's the cliche, but the

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<v Speaker 1>rising tide rising, you know, raising all boats. You're an

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<v Speaker 1>influx of talent, angel recent people like that. But when

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<v Speaker 1>in Minnesota, New York. Yes, but you don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>But one point three to five million, up ninety three

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<v Speaker 1>just going to get bigger. While we're talking media, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>admit to that, but there is a promotional spot out there,

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<v Speaker 1>commercial if you will, for playoff coverage, and it features

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<v Speaker 1>Sho Hao Tani and Aaron Judge. How do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>looking at a bicoastal series. No, Guardians still alive, Mets

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<v Speaker 1>still alive, but their promo basically their commercial about themselves

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<v Speaker 1>their praises in Shohiotani. How do you feel if you're

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<v Speaker 1>Yankees are rolling, it looks like. But John Sterling, playboy

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<v Speaker 1>play man for Wfan, not happy with the play that

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<v Speaker 1>came kind of early in the game. But Anthony Rizzo

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<v Speaker 1>on a pitch in the dirt. Actually this was in

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<v Speaker 1>evidently that's been a problem all year long. And John Sterling,

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<v Speaker 4>The two.

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<v Speaker 5>A bouncer and Rizzo is going to be picked off.

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<v Speaker 5>He's in the middle between second and third. Hedges now

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<v Speaker 5>throws to second on the way to third, back to second,

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<v Speaker 5>back to third. Tagged out end of inning. Boy, if

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<v Speaker 5>that wasn't the Yankees, that's that's what they do. Run

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<v Speaker 5>the bases like drunks.

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<v Speaker 6>Well Clayborough will lead.

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<v Speaker 4>Off the next sun.

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<v Speaker 1>That is John Sterling on the Yankees Network. Courtesy of WFN,

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<v Speaker 1>the flagship station that brings us to Jerry Jones and

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<v Speaker 1>his criticism of hosts on a radio show in one

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<v Speaker 1>O five point three the fan in Dallas. When I

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboy rights. But they've bounced around a little bit. Now

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<v Speaker 1>they're on the fan. My buddy, Chuck Cooperstein works for them,

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<v Speaker 1>the voice of the Mavericks. But apparently Jerry Jones went

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<v Speaker 1>a different direction. The radio station pays the Cowboys for

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<v Speaker 1>the rights. But Jerry Jones didn't like their questions and

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<v Speaker 1>he talked about them as if they didn't know anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, you know, if there were real fans

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<v Speaker 1>or people who knew football, But these guys are covering

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<v Speaker 1>football for years and it's not their job to be

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<v Speaker 1>real fans. But I think the clock's running out on Jerry,

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<v Speaker 1>that more with Weston Bureau chief Gary Moore a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later on all Right, Van Hiles up next year

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<v Speaker 1>on six point thirty Wlap join us on a celebrity hotline.

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<v Speaker 1>We ordinarily don't pester Van Hiles as much as we

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<v Speaker 1>Leach on Monday mornings. But Ben, I think right after

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<v Speaker 1>this game, I texted you, like, boy, do we have

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<v Speaker 1>to talk. I cannot imagine you are our celebrity monologue

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<v Speaker 1>going into this game taking us back. Now, you took

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<v Speaker 1>us back to a shutout in ninety sex. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>expecting a shutout, And we'll talk about a defense that

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<v Speaker 1>only gave up twenty but a festival of yellow flags

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<v Speaker 1>and another missed opportunity at home. How are you processing?

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<v Speaker 7>I can't process it, because honestly, it doesn't make sense

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<v Speaker 7>this for me. I thought this team was a different team.

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<v Speaker 7>I thought this team could be consistent in their effort,

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<v Speaker 7>and you cannot do what you did against Georgia and

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<v Speaker 4>To me, it makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 7>There is no bevariables in it. You have the same players,

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<v Speaker 7>down from players see rother first four game like this

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<v Speaker 7>is not the case this year. We have everybody at

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<v Speaker 7>And why do we come out and play the type

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<v Speaker 7>of game that we played Saturday compared to what we

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<v Speaker 1>Now you talk about an effort. I thought they played hard,

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<v Speaker 1>but obviously they played sloppy, which, of course the tracks

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<v Speaker 1>from how Hard You Play?

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<v Speaker 7>Right, Yes, there there were some and it's we can say.

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<v Speaker 7>I can say all I want to say about accountability

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<v Speaker 7>why do you have those same issues against other teams?

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<v Speaker 7>Why does it rear its ugly head in this game?

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<v Speaker 7>What was the bearable that that was introduced on Saturday

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<v Speaker 7>to make them play different than they played against the

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<v Speaker 1>Any any theories, any guesses.

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<v Speaker 7>My my guess is that this bye week some guys started,

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<v Speaker 7>they have reached a certain level that is not given

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<v Speaker 7>in this conference until the end of the year, and

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<v Speaker 7>this this bye week a lot of get healthy, but

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<v Speaker 7>allow them to get their their ego to get boost

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<v Speaker 7>with the way they played against Ole Miss. That's the

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<v Speaker 7>only thing I've come up with, because what else can

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<v Speaker 7>you come up with? When they played so well against

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<v Speaker 7>Georgian Ole Miss, why would it be different this week?

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<v Speaker 1>And they played well because they played as that invariable

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<v Speaker 1>unit that we talk about with you know, talk about

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<v Speaker 1>focus or whatever, doing your job, staying your gap, all

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. But let me let me run

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<v Speaker 1>a theory at you that I posed on our Stay

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<v Speaker 1>me late in the first half, after yet another penalty.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering, did they come into this game like thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we're going to kick these guys, but we

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<v Speaker 1>They were a little too excited and for to use

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<v Speaker 1>a cliche, kind of got out of their lane, not

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<v Speaker 1>out of their gap, but you know they were just yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just way too anxious to get this win and move

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<v Speaker 1>on to the next one. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 7>No, it makes sense. Is a is a great opinion?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know's it's like, I would say this, some

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<v Speaker 7>of the things that we have done haven't been called

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<v Speaker 7>in the previous game. This is not the first time

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<v Speaker 7>these receivers have done. Some of the things that they

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<v Speaker 7>have done, it's just it wasn't called, and unfortunately we

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<v Speaker 7>got we got enticed to doing something because honestly, it

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<v Speaker 7>should have been called both sides. I mean, the Vanda

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<v Speaker 7>you can't react. We all know the second guy's always caught.

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<v Speaker 7>So why react? Why say, okay, let him get the

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<v Speaker 7>to the promised land. So those are things that you

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<v Speaker 7>cannot do. They you know what's crazy. Vandy did to

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<v Speaker 1>Ole miss Yeah exact.

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<v Speaker 7>They played sound football, balanced, smart, took big plays when

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<v Speaker 4>So they did.

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<v Speaker 7>They had all game plan, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, it was very similar. Kentucky's effort was similar.

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<v Speaker 1>Ball control. I thought, you I we'll get more to this.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought did a decent job against Diego. He still

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<v Speaker 1>when you mix in the penalties, you cannot This to

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky team is not good enough to overcome all that.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the seven team that was Kentucky's best offensive

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<v Speaker 1>This team can't do.

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<v Speaker 7>That, you know, right, Yeah, And you just can't put

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<v Speaker 7>up every time, because like you said, we just don't

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<v Speaker 7>pains are to be expected. I'm gonna say this. The

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<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting you say that when they only gave

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<v Speaker 1>defense did put the offense in a position to win, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but there were times they need you know, they made

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<v Speaker 7>A touchdown where go to me was playing for the

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<v Speaker 7>clock ran down to under twenty second. He had no

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<v Speaker 7>a field goal. So it could have been ten seven

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<v Speaker 7>and a half for.

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<v Speaker 1>The Fortunes exactly. It's just frustrating to talk about. As

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<v Speaker 1>we chat with Van Heils when weer Kentucky defensive back.

421
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<v Speaker 1>He is V Styles on V Styles seventeen on Twitter

422
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<v Speaker 1>and he breaks down Kentucky football on the internet and

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<v Speaker 1>he is Tom Leech's guest. Every Monday morning is the

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<v Speaker 1>Monday Morning quarterback. You played quarterback once upon a time.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, That's all I played until I got to college.

426
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<v Speaker 7>I was a quarterback my entire career until I stepped

427
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<v Speaker 7>footing Lexington.

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<v Speaker 1>So will you recruited as a d back or quarterback?

429
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<v Speaker 7>I was recruited by the bigger programs as a D back.

430
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<v Speaker 7>I was my senior in high school when people started

431
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<v Speaker 7>recruiting me. I was five to nine, probably one hundred

432
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<v Speaker 7>and fifty pounds. So back in those days, in the

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<v Speaker 7>nineteen hundred, quarterbacks six four six five. So if I

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<v Speaker 7>would have came up about seven years later, I probably

435
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<v Speaker 7>would have played quarterbacks.

436
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because back then they were looking for the next

437
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<v Speaker 1>Peyton Manning. Right.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, before Payton Umber, there was a guy Drunken Miller

439
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<v Speaker 7>that played for a votech I played Jim Dash. That

440
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<v Speaker 7>guy was humongers. And that's what the prototypical guy was.

441
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<v Speaker 7>The the what's the guy from Houston? The last thing

442
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<v Speaker 7>with a K? Remember the university clingler? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, c Universe. Yeah.

444
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<v Speaker 7>David, like all those guys, was sixty three six four,

445
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<v Speaker 7>couldn't run much. They couldn't they couldn't avoid a rush,

446
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<v Speaker 7>but they could stand tall, take ahead, stand in the

447
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<v Speaker 7>pocket to deliver a pass. And then all of a

448
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<v Speaker 7>sudden it's starting to change about seven years later.

449
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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's something about tall quarterbacks. I remember Iowa

450
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<v Speaker 1>had a guy named Chuck Long. Yes, yes, for a while,

451
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<v Speaker 1>six foot eight. Yep, you know it wasn't wasn't great,

452
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<v Speaker 1>But boll he looked good, didn't he.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah? Yeah, look, no, none of his passes we're gonna

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<v Speaker 7>get batted down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll take a break, come back and talk more

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<v Speaker 1>football with Van in just a minute. Here on a

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Sider six thirty wlap. Welcome back. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>with former Kentucky defensive back Van Hiles. You hear him

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<v Speaker 1>every Monday morning with Tom Leach. Here him on Sunday

460
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<v Speaker 1>Morning Sports Talk. Uh, he's got his own podcast. He

461
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<v Speaker 1>breaks down video on the interweb as well. And now

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky heading for Gainesville. And I know so many Kentucky fans,

463
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<v Speaker 1>who believe it or not, Van are confident going into

464
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<v Speaker 1>this one because well, Vandy, I mean Florida rather as

465
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<v Speaker 1>struggled of late, and Kentucky has played well against the Gators.

466
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<v Speaker 1>But you know, you got to wonder where's this team

467
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<v Speaker 1>gonna be mentally? You know what I mean?

468
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<v Speaker 7>You never know. I will say this at least is

469
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<v Speaker 7>a road game. Yeah, and I'm gonna tell you something,

470
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<v Speaker 7>Lauder wins that game against Tennessee if Merch doesn't get hurt.

471
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<v Speaker 7>So they are confident and playing good ball. I know

472
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<v Speaker 7>they're down there starting quarterback, but they have enough talent

473
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<v Speaker 7>on that team to beat us if we don't play

474
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<v Speaker 7>our best game. If we don't, if we if we

475
00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:18.720
<v Speaker 7>played like we played against Bandy decided we would lose

476
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<v Speaker 7>that game too.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's factoring in penalties. What if they play that

478
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<v Speaker 1>way minus the penalties, Well.

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<v Speaker 7>That that was the The game was built on penalties

480
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<v Speaker 7>and turnovers.

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<v Speaker 4>That was that was it. If if we.

482
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<v Speaker 7>Don't turn the ball over and we don't have those penalties,

483
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<v Speaker 7>we we left nine points minimum off the board because

484
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:48.720
<v Speaker 7>of penalty we lost and then the the second and one,

485
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<v Speaker 7>which is a penalty, But then we lost points on

486
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:54.799
<v Speaker 7>the field goal like that. That turn that was not

487
00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:58.680
<v Speaker 7>like uh six points wings or something like that. That

488
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:03.359
<v Speaker 7>was like a play points wing maybe fourteen. Because we.

489
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<v Speaker 4>Don't get a touchdown, then we don't get the field goal.

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<v Speaker 7>Like we got nothing out of that. And the offense

491
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<v Speaker 7>was doing I'm gonna say this, the offense played well

492
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<v Speaker 7>enough to win. Also, it wasn't like they didn't move

493
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:19.279
<v Speaker 7>into red zone, they just didn't capitalize.

494
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<v Speaker 1>So any theory on why this team is just having

495
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<v Speaker 1>such a difficult time winning.

496
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<v Speaker 7>At home, I'm as a leadership Neil, and I'm just

497
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<v Speaker 7>starting to realize this since I coached high school and

498
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:45.319
<v Speaker 7>it does the same thing on college. When when we're

499
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<v Speaker 7>at home at a high school game, you have time

500
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<v Speaker 7>after class, you can You've got two hours to just

501
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:55.880
<v Speaker 7>chill in the locker room, shoot the bs and they

502
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:58.559
<v Speaker 7>have fun and all their giggles and all that stuff,

503
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<v Speaker 7>So you have time get distracted. When you play on

504
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<v Speaker 7>a road. For us in high school, you got to

505
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<v Speaker 7>take that bus ride and sometime that bus rode can

506
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<v Speaker 7>be in an hour that gets you in the right

507
00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:12.720
<v Speaker 7>frame of mind. And the same thing in college. You

508
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:17.119
<v Speaker 7>get on that plane ride, you escape your normalcy and

509
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:20.079
<v Speaker 7>you are just you and the guys. When you're at home,

510
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:23.440
<v Speaker 7>it's you, your parents, your girlfriend, your best buddy, you're

511
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<v Speaker 7>your classmates. It's a lot of things that distract you.

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<v Speaker 7>You got to get tickets. Oh man, I got somebody

513
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:30.680
<v Speaker 7>coming in. I need two more tickets. Who are a team?

514
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<v Speaker 4>Give me?

515
00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:34.160
<v Speaker 7>Like those kind of things can be a distraction. And

516
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<v Speaker 7>when you're on a row is you and your players

517
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<v Speaker 7>and things are regimented. You got busts off the plane

518
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<v Speaker 7>and you got a meeting, you got this, you got that.

519
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<v Speaker 7>Everything is on the schedule, and I think it helps

520
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<v Speaker 7>you focus and that might be the difference for this team.

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<v Speaker 7>So if that is the difference, we got to find

522
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<v Speaker 7>a way to do that at home.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember what it's like down in Florida. I can't work.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe if you were still playing when the students

525
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<v Speaker 1>could be directly behind me, Oh yes, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>the because I remember it had to be yeah, because

527
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<v Speaker 1>you were you preceded Tim Couch is when they were

528
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<v Speaker 1>throwing oranges in ice and the Tim Couch team. That's

529
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<v Speaker 1>prompted the move of students across the conference from behind

530
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<v Speaker 1>a bench to just just down the way outside the

531
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<v Speaker 1>coaching box. But when you were wow, man, they were

532
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<v Speaker 1>right they were right behind you, weren't they right up?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think people understand how small the Florida sideline is.

534
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<v Speaker 4>There's no room over there. There is zero.

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<v Speaker 7>So when I so if you could think of usually

536
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<v Speaker 7>there's a bench and you have some room, there's no

537
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<v Speaker 7>room it's a bench and basically the guys on the

538
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<v Speaker 7>sideline standing right up on you, and the fans are

539
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<v Speaker 7>right on your back. And I can't believe, and this

540
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<v Speaker 7>is before the internet, how much research those kids did

541
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<v Speaker 7>to learn about you. It's like they knew stuff. I'm like,

542
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<v Speaker 7>I don't be don't figure that out, Like it was crazy. Yeah,

543
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:06.880
<v Speaker 7>so that's nice to hear that.

544
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<v Speaker 1>Somehow they would get hold of a media guide.

545
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<v Speaker 7>Ah, that's not the.

546
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<v Speaker 1>Only way they could have done it, but you know

547
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:22.039
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't easy. Right to the bookstore and maybe chipped

548
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<v Speaker 1>in their money. I don't know.

549
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

550
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<v Speaker 7>I don't know how they were.

551
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that takes because.

552
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<v Speaker 7>It's not just I guess, I guess word, I'm off

553
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<v Speaker 7>and they just filled up there everybody. Everybody starts memorizing

554
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:36.119
<v Speaker 7>all kinds of stuff. I'm like, yeah, that's wild.

555
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's you know, people have yelled at me in

556
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the years that I've been on the side. One guy

557
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<v Speaker 1>down in Baton Rouge in my home state, no afterwards

558
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:51.839
<v Speaker 1>to me, I'm going to kill you more than once

559
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:55.759
<v Speaker 1>pointed at me. And then late in the game I

560
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>turned around said, do I need to be worried about

561
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<v Speaker 1>this guy. Uh. But then when the next time I

562
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>turned around Van, he was by the police. Oh wow, Yeah,

563
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>so he had gotten into the people around him.

564
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<v Speaker 4>It's nuts. Uh.

565
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:12.319
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, this this Kentucky team bands together and now

566
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:15.440
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna play with one QB. For the most part,

567
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Mertz is injured. A guy who at at one point

568
00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:21.519
<v Speaker 1>wanted to come to Kentucky, but his career is over.

569
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>And now I gotta thinks as a defensive guy, do

570
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<v Speaker 1>you foresee a lot of uh changes by by Brad?

571
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<v Speaker 1>Why do you see hidden coverages things like that to

572
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:35.920
<v Speaker 1>try to blitz his to try to confuse a young guy.

573
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<v Speaker 7>I mean, the advantage is is we play a mobile

574
00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:46.119
<v Speaker 7>quarterback this week? Black way is there's a mobile young quarterback. Now,

575
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:50.599
<v Speaker 7>can you confuse them? I'm sure for me, we can't

576
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:53.319
<v Speaker 7>do what we did against Vandy. We have to stop

577
00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:57.720
<v Speaker 7>the run. We cannot allow Bandy being second to five consistent.

578
00:33:57.720 --> 00:33:59.279
<v Speaker 7>I mean, we can let Florida be in second to

579
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:02.279
<v Speaker 7>five like we allow Vanna to be consistent. If we

580
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:06.359
<v Speaker 7>can't force him to throw the ball but keep him

581
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.800
<v Speaker 7>in the pocket, it can be a good game for us.

582
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:13.960
<v Speaker 7>But we cannot let in the quarterback, the running back, Johnston,

583
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:17.199
<v Speaker 7>that's the name. We can't allow him to get in

584
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:19.519
<v Speaker 7>a rhythm. If he gets in a rhythm, it can

585
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:20.320
<v Speaker 7>be a long night.

586
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so many times Vandy really pushing the pie. I

587
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:28.360
<v Speaker 1>thought the Vandy O line was really impressive, starting with

588
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:33.440
<v Speaker 1>their center who went three sixty one and Dion Walker

589
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:36.840
<v Speaker 1>had his hands full. But man, every time it seemed like, uh,

590
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:38.840
<v Speaker 1>they're they're going second and five or shorter.

591
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<v Speaker 7>Right, Yeah, it was I haven't seen and maybe I

592
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:49.360
<v Speaker 7>underestimated the ability of their O line and their O

593
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:53.119
<v Speaker 7>line coach because I didn't see that coming. Yeah, And

594
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<v Speaker 7>it wasn't like a flute this about it.

595
00:34:57.159 --> 00:34:58.159
<v Speaker 4>It was consistent.

596
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:01.880
<v Speaker 7>There were sometimes they double be on, sometimes they didn't

597
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:04.480
<v Speaker 7>double be on, and they still got to push. And

598
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.079
<v Speaker 7>that's something you cannot have in a three four defense.

599
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:09.840
<v Speaker 7>You cannot create another line of scrimmage that knows. And

600
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:12.800
<v Speaker 7>those four eyes got a whole anchor and we did

601
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.159
<v Speaker 7>not hold anchor like we get a bit against Georgia

602
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:18.079
<v Speaker 7>and Old Mith, whom I believe have better run games.

603
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:21.000
<v Speaker 7>So what happened?

604
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:27.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, there are so many questions, so few answers.

605
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<v Speaker 7>Right.

606
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<v Speaker 1>Well, you.

607
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<v Speaker 7>Know, I'm still trying to figure out. I'm I've watched

608
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:35.880
<v Speaker 7>this game more than I normally watch a game because

609
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:38.039
<v Speaker 7>I'm trying to get a tendency and trying to get

610
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<v Speaker 7>a beat on what happened. And to me, it's just guys,

611
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<v Speaker 7>I don't know, effort, intensely focused, pat levels too high,

612
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:53.039
<v Speaker 7>like that was not our defensive line. And I know

613
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:56.199
<v Speaker 7>that stewards on there you know what this week because

614
00:35:56.519 --> 00:35:59.480
<v Speaker 7>that is not how they've played any game this year

615
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<v Speaker 7>from one.

616
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:03.039
<v Speaker 4>To Week five. That's this has come to talk.

617
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<v Speaker 7>To a lot of games. They have not played like

618
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:07.159
<v Speaker 7>that anytime this year, and then all of a sudden

619
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<v Speaker 7>they played like that last week. It's confusing reading.

620
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<v Speaker 1>Their own clippings. All right, I have one question you

621
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<v Speaker 1>can answer about being a grill master in Louisiana. Have

622
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you ever prepared Gator?

623
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<v Speaker 4>I personally have it?

624
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.079
<v Speaker 1>Do you like that? I'm sure you've had it.

625
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:30.280
<v Speaker 7>I've had it. It's not it's like this for me.

626
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:33.440
<v Speaker 7>It's not like even a favorites, like I have so

627
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:38.440
<v Speaker 7>many other things that I can prepare before Gator, Like

628
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:41.639
<v Speaker 7>that's like so far down the list. Or someone would

629
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<v Speaker 7>have to say, man, can you cook some gator for me,

630
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:46.079
<v Speaker 7>and I don't have anybody in my family who would

631
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<v Speaker 7>ask me.

632
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:48.559
<v Speaker 1>To prepare that when I when I've eaten it, it's

633
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:53.000
<v Speaker 1>been served as an appetizer at this is fine, you know,

634
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:56.239
<v Speaker 1>and it's more than anything. It's fun to say you've

635
00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>eaten gator. It's not you know, it's not bad. It's

636
00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:00.440
<v Speaker 1>not great.

637
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:02.039
<v Speaker 7>You know, it's not that special.

638
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:03.320
<v Speaker 1>No, not really.

639
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:07.119
<v Speaker 7>But it's like frog legs, Yeah, you like them. No,

640
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:08.719
<v Speaker 7>it's like it's nothing special.

641
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh, Okay, I think there's a little something. I think

642
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>there's more to frog legs than gator.

643
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:17.400
<v Speaker 4>I would say, yes, I will agree with that. I

644
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:18.039
<v Speaker 4>will agree with that.

645
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:22.599
<v Speaker 1>Tell you what. Last week or week aldgo Friday. We

646
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.920
<v Speaker 1>stayed in Tupelo where the team stays. Okay, and there's

647
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:29.320
<v Speaker 1>a restaurant there that specializes some of his dishes and

648
00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:34.320
<v Speaker 1>wild game. I've had quail there was very good. One

649
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.599
<v Speaker 1>of the it seemed like there weren't as many, but

650
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:41.360
<v Speaker 1>one of the appetizers we got were duck poppers. Man,

651
00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:42.039
<v Speaker 1>were they good?

652
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:43.280
<v Speaker 4>Really?

653
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:45.079
<v Speaker 1>Now, when you order duck, you know you don't get

654
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:46.039
<v Speaker 1>a whole out of meat.

655
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:48.400
<v Speaker 7>Nope, you do not, Buddy.

656
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:52.039
<v Speaker 1>If you ever go, it's called Woodies and I highly

657
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:52.679
<v Speaker 1>recommend it.

658
00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:53.960
<v Speaker 4>Huh.

659
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:58.639
<v Speaker 7>Okay, so there venison, then there's venison. Then I've been

660
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 7>a two blow many times.

661
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:03.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, so so check that out. I'm sure. I'm

662
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:05.440
<v Speaker 1>sure it varies, you know, from what they can get

663
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:06.480
<v Speaker 1>from whatever hunters.

664
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:08.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's true. That's a good point.

665
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:12.119
<v Speaker 1>But then and for dessert, men, we had the bananas

666
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:16.119
<v Speaker 1>Foster fantastic, big, big flames fantastic.

667
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:19.719
<v Speaker 4>Wow wow. Yeah that sounds good. Yeah.

668
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, if you sound good every week, we appreciate you

669
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:24.320
<v Speaker 1>being with us and hope the news is better next time.

670
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:27.679
<v Speaker 7>I'm open so too doing the boss over, so you

671
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:30.079
<v Speaker 7>can't blame me, that's true, all right.

672
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Well you can. You can listen to Van and as

673
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I said, Monday Morning Sports, Monday Morning Quarterback with Tom

674
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Leach and you can hear him as well on driving

675
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:44.320
<v Speaker 1>with Styles in the locker for one one, as well

676
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:47.239
<v Speaker 1>as Sunday Morning Sports Talk. Have a great weekend, my man.

677
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:52.039
<v Speaker 1>You up next hour number two Shawn Woods, the Unforgettable Guard.

678
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>He'll talk about madness and we'll talk about football coaching

679
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and of course our Western Burea chief Gary Moore here

680
00:38:58.440 --> 00:40:44.559
<v Speaker 1>on the Big Blue Sider six thirty name, joining us

681
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:46.559
<v Speaker 1>down in our celebrity highline as he does each and

682
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:50.320
<v Speaker 1>every Wednesday, is the unforgettable guard Sean Woods, his jersey

683
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:54.199
<v Speaker 1>hangs and the rafters of Rupp and Coach. Before we

684
00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:57.880
<v Speaker 1>talk about basketball or football, I need to ask you

685
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:00.440
<v Speaker 1>though about madness. You were there on hand, a lot

686
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:05.159
<v Speaker 1>of former players were, but also your former coach, and

687
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:07.079
<v Speaker 1>as I understand it, did you even know he was

688
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:07.800
<v Speaker 1>going to be there?

689
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:15.239
<v Speaker 4>I did not up until probably the night before because

690
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:18.360
<v Speaker 4>a couple of guys came in town and told me

691
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:21.159
<v Speaker 4>that that he was going to be in town, and

692
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:25.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, he was coming to the football games. I

693
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:26.880
<v Speaker 4>had no idea he was going to do the badness field.

694
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:28.360
<v Speaker 1>How'd you feel about that?

695
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:36.519
<v Speaker 4>Well, everything's starting to become more refreshing now and getting

696
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:42.000
<v Speaker 4>back to what we call Kentucky basketball normality of you

697
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:45.119
<v Speaker 4>know what this program has been built on, and that's

698
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:49.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, involving everyone. But to see my former coach there,

699
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:53.760
<v Speaker 4>who actually started what we call modern day Kentucky basketball.

700
00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:58.519
<v Speaker 4>Let you know, you know, even though he left to

701
00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:00.960
<v Speaker 4>go to the Boston Celtics, we know where his heart

702
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:03.840
<v Speaker 4>really stands, and it's here. Even though he's coached at

703
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:08.480
<v Speaker 4>Louisville and in some other places. This is the one

704
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:10.679
<v Speaker 4>place that holds true to his heart.

705
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:11.039
<v Speaker 7>You know.

706
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:12.559
<v Speaker 4>He did everything a crowd that night.

707
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he really did. Uh. And you mentioned him leaving

708
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and people, of course are still upset that he took

709
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:22.519
<v Speaker 1>the Louisville job, and he said he regrets leaving Kentucky.

710
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:25.119
<v Speaker 1>But when you look back on him, man, I mean

711
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the money that the Celtics gave him and the odds

712
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:32.039
<v Speaker 1>that he would get Tim Duncan, you can't really blame

713
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:34.719
<v Speaker 1>him in hindsight, can you.

714
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:37.400
<v Speaker 4>No, you can't, you know. And in this profession, you're

715
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:39.800
<v Speaker 4>trying to move up and you're trying to you know,

716
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:44.280
<v Speaker 4>do some things and make history. And the coach was coach.

717
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:45.360
<v Speaker 4>That's that's who he is.

718
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:45.559
<v Speaker 7>You know.

719
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:49.159
<v Speaker 4>He's always you know, searching for the next challenge and

720
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:55.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, resurrecting programs and teams. And unfortunately that boss

721
00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:58.239
<v Speaker 4>himself did when he didn't get Tim Duncan, you know,

722
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:00.800
<v Speaker 4>and he was telling the truth. You know, Larry Berry's

723
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:03.880
<v Speaker 4>not walking through that door, Kevin Mchel walking through that door.

724
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:04.559
<v Speaker 7>You know.

725
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:07.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I want a national championship with some of these guys,

726
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:09.519
<v Speaker 4>but playing at this level is totally different.

727
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it was also his own worst enemy. I

728
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:14.199
<v Speaker 1>thought he was a really good coach and a poor

729
00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:17.920
<v Speaker 1>general manager because he was so impulsive and gave up

730
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:20.400
<v Speaker 1>on Chauncey Billups, who winds up in the Hall of Fame.

731
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:23.519
<v Speaker 1>So uh, you know there he probably had a little

732
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:25.039
<v Speaker 1>too much on his plate. I don't know if you

733
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:28.719
<v Speaker 1>feel qualified to say that, but but I thought I

734
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:31.639
<v Speaker 1>felt like the Celtics always played hard for him. He

735
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:33.480
<v Speaker 1>just didn't have enough personnel. You know.

736
00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:36.719
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's like anything else. You know, you can

737
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:38.480
<v Speaker 4>have all the eggs and those that you don't have

738
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:41.480
<v Speaker 4>those Jim and Joe's right, you know, it's it's it's

739
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:45.559
<v Speaker 4>hard and you know, like anything else, if you don't

740
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:50.440
<v Speaker 4>have players, it's gonna be hard. And he realized that,

741
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:54.880
<v Speaker 4>and you know, he went to the next spot. And

742
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:57.440
<v Speaker 4>the next spot was actually our nemesis, which was the

743
00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:58.280
<v Speaker 4>Louis Cardinals.

744
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, well you you were part of Madness as

745
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:03.440
<v Speaker 1>a player, and now they bring you back. Before I

746
00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:06.679
<v Speaker 1>ask you about coming back this year, did you enjoy

747
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:08.280
<v Speaker 1>that as a player Madness?

748
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:12.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Yeah, that was that was a huge start kickoff,

749
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:17.360
<v Speaker 4>you know for every player. You know what I mean,

750
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:20.480
<v Speaker 4>that's that's huge. Even as a recruit, you know, you

751
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:23.119
<v Speaker 4>want to come in and experience that it's like no

752
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:27.440
<v Speaker 4>other basketball program. First day in America?

753
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Were you part of madness as a recruit? Did you

754
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:32.719
<v Speaker 1>pay a visit during a madness?

755
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:34.599
<v Speaker 7>No?

756
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:35.039
<v Speaker 4>I did not.

757
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Had you already decided?

758
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:43.960
<v Speaker 4>I committed in October and signed November eleventh. I'll never

759
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:44.480
<v Speaker 4>forget it.

760
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Really, what do you remember about that?

761
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:50.280
<v Speaker 4>Just it was October eleventh, the first signing date back

762
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:53.639
<v Speaker 4>then in nineteen eighty seven, even though I graduated in

763
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:55.880
<v Speaker 4>high school in eighty eight. There was the Fall of

764
00:44:55.960 --> 00:45:00.760
<v Speaker 4>eighty the fall of eighty seven, and we were the

765
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:05.760
<v Speaker 4>number one recruiting class in America. And I just knew that,

766
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:08.679
<v Speaker 4>you know, this could be a special place for me.

767
00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:11.559
<v Speaker 4>I've you know, grown up coming down and visioned my parents,

768
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:15.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean, my family, my grandmother things, and I had

769
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:18.800
<v Speaker 4>a special place for this special place in my heart

770
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:21.199
<v Speaker 4>for this place. And you know, even though I'm from

771
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:23.280
<v Speaker 4>Indiana and you got the Indiana who's usual got to

772
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:25.840
<v Speaker 4>produce all the makers, you got another dang fighting Irish.

773
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:28.760
<v Speaker 4>But it was just something about the mostique of Kentucky

774
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:31.880
<v Speaker 4>basketball that got this old Indiana guy to come back

775
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:33.880
<v Speaker 4>home to where his mom was going.

776
00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:37.159
<v Speaker 1>To raise at What was life like you as a

777
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:41.159
<v Speaker 1>kid growing up in Indiana and a well known basketball player,

778
00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:44.559
<v Speaker 1>yet you signed with Kentucky. What was life like for

779
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:45.239
<v Speaker 1>you after that?

780
00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:48.719
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, back then, you know, we didn't have

781
00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:52.199
<v Speaker 4>an answer machine. Now we had to order My mom

782
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:55.239
<v Speaker 4>had to buy an answer machine because when I signed

783
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:57.480
<v Speaker 4>and committed to Kentucky, we would get prank calls all

784
00:45:57.519 --> 00:45:57.880
<v Speaker 4>the time.

785
00:45:58.079 --> 00:45:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and my.

786
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:01.960
<v Speaker 4>Mom and my dad, you know, because they worked in

787
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:03.840
<v Speaker 4>the state of Indiana. You know, they were getting a

788
00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:07.719
<v Speaker 4>little greef, you know, that crazy grief, but you know

789
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:11.000
<v Speaker 4>they were getting some some stuff, some some some Smaraki stuff.

790
00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:15.840
<v Speaker 4>And also, you know, my high school coach, my senior year,

791
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:18.000
<v Speaker 4>we got a new coach. He played for Bob Knight

792
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:21.639
<v Speaker 4>at West Point. So it kind of brought it put

793
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:24.239
<v Speaker 4>a little you know, a little dapper in our relationship

794
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:27.440
<v Speaker 4>starting off. You know, I never would take an official

795
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:32.840
<v Speaker 4>visit to Indiana, such an unofficial and I remember he

796
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:36.199
<v Speaker 4>drove me up there and uh after we were coming

797
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:39.360
<v Speaker 4>back and we left and we're coming back. You know,

798
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:41.280
<v Speaker 4>he said, what do you think. I said, I'm not

799
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:44.280
<v Speaker 4>playing for that guy, I'm gonna play I Kentucky.

800
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:49.239
<v Speaker 1>You read in my mind that was my next question?

801
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever consider playing for Bob Knight? But that

802
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.280
<v Speaker 1>also brings up another good question. I've never asked you this.

803
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:59.079
<v Speaker 1>If not Kentucky, where might you have gone?

804
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:07.559
<v Speaker 4>Purdue Iowa, Georgia, UNLV.

805
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:11.639
<v Speaker 1>Wow, Vegas was Vegas back then, wasn't it?

806
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:15.079
<v Speaker 4>Well? Vegas almost has Sean Tim, Chris Mills and myself

807
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:19.039
<v Speaker 4>at that particular time, US three were going to school together.

808
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:21.320
<v Speaker 4>We had played on the same AA team sewn and

809
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:23.800
<v Speaker 4>I played on the same eight team since eighth grade.

810
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:27.360
<v Speaker 4>And then we got picked up were they were our

811
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:37.440
<v Speaker 4>nemesis LS California and Nike ARC team and we ended up,

812
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:40.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, playing on the same team and becoming great

813
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:45.800
<v Speaker 4>friends and getting recruited by the same schools. And US

814
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:47.480
<v Speaker 4>three decided we were going to go to school together

815
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:50.239
<v Speaker 4>and it was gonna be one of those And Chris

816
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:54.039
<v Speaker 4>really really liked Indiana really to be honest, Yeah, nobody knew.

817
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:57.400
<v Speaker 4>If Chris hadn't gone to Kentucky, Indiana was probably his

818
00:47:57.440 --> 00:47:58.079
<v Speaker 4>second choice.

819
00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:01.440
<v Speaker 1>He would have played for Bob Knight, He would.

820
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:04.199
<v Speaker 4>Have played for He was really considering playing for kidding.

821
00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:06.000
<v Speaker 1>He was okay with that style of coaching.

822
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:10.159
<v Speaker 4>You know, his dad was tough. You know, it wasn't

823
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:12.360
<v Speaker 4>the coaching that scared me. You know what I'm saying.

824
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:15.559
<v Speaker 4>We've been growing up back then. We were getting coached

825
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:18.880
<v Speaker 4>Tarbory our high school coaches, then towards and things, so

826
00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:21.679
<v Speaker 4>that that didn't bother us. The thing with me was

827
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:25.320
<v Speaker 4>I didn't like bob nic style of play, and too,

828
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:28.920
<v Speaker 4>he had just signed the year before Jay Edwards and

829
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:31.679
<v Speaker 4>Lynnon Jones, who won three state championships and were cole

830
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:34.760
<v Speaker 4>mister Basketball the year before me, and I wanted to

831
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:37.159
<v Speaker 4>go somewhere where I can start and play right away.

832
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:40.679
<v Speaker 4>And I didn't you know, that was my idea. My

833
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:43.280
<v Speaker 4>mom did not want me to consider about night. But

834
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.239
<v Speaker 4>you know I didn't mind the hard coaching. I come

835
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:48.559
<v Speaker 4>from Gary, Indiana. I mean we were chess tis and

836
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:50.800
<v Speaker 4>and things like that. I did. As long as you're

837
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:53.639
<v Speaker 4>playing me, I don't care because I'm gonna make it work.

838
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:56.320
<v Speaker 4>But if I'm sitting on that bench and you chestised

839
00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:57.519
<v Speaker 4>me every day, and then that's a problem.

840
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't blame you. Sean Camp from elk Cart, Indiana,

841
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:05.039
<v Speaker 1>Eddie Sutton once told us that he was the best

842
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:09.079
<v Speaker 1>high school player he has ever seen. If it had

843
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:12.719
<v Speaker 1>worked out for Sean camp here, what do you think

844
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:16.920
<v Speaker 1>might have happened, Sean? Because that guy would have never left.

845
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:20.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and we would have had an opportunity to win

846
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:21.960
<v Speaker 4>several national championships.

847
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:23.400
<v Speaker 1>He was that good, wasn't he?

848
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:25.239
<v Speaker 7>He was that good?

849
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:28.559
<v Speaker 4>And we were that good as a team. You know nothing,

850
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:33.960
<v Speaker 4>Say you know the personnel stays. Okay, say Rex doesn't leave.

851
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:37.360
<v Speaker 4>Say Eric Manna doesn't have to leave, Saint Chris Mills

852
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:38.239
<v Speaker 4>doesn't have to leave.

853
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

854
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:44.679
<v Speaker 4>Just those three guys right there include Sean Kemp. Now

855
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:47.119
<v Speaker 4>you u nlf think they had something. No, they were

856
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:49.679
<v Speaker 4>not better than that. Said that particular time, if everybody

857
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:50.760
<v Speaker 4>would have stayed.

858
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:55.199
<v Speaker 1>A staggering when you think about it, and here, you

859
00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:58.559
<v Speaker 1>would have been feeding all those guys in basketball, your

860
00:49:58.599 --> 00:49:59.960
<v Speaker 1>assisted numbers would.

861
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:03.599
<v Speaker 4>Have been nuts off the charts. You gotta remember, now,

862
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:08.440
<v Speaker 4>eighty percent, just think of these numbers. Now, eighty percent

863
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:17.360
<v Speaker 4>of my of of of my passes for shots were threes. Right, Okay,

864
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:20.519
<v Speaker 4>I didn't have a post player. Okay, Now, out of

865
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:24.360
<v Speaker 4>those threes, as a team, we're shooting thirty five percent

866
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:29.559
<v Speaker 4>from the three. So what was my chances? And I

867
00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:33.280
<v Speaker 4>still let the sec and assists? How hard was that?

868
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:37.000
<v Speaker 4>You know? I averaged about five six a game? How

869
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:39.559
<v Speaker 4>how much? Just think if I'd have had just that

870
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:47.440
<v Speaker 4>wow chance of me getting an assists, Wow.

871
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:56.639
<v Speaker 1>Would have thrown and getting down the floor.

872
00:50:56.760 --> 00:50:59.320
<v Speaker 4>Man, Bullie you think derk Minnifeld is saying Bullie or

873
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:04.280
<v Speaker 4>Roger Hartman, Kenny Walker work great? Halley you, Oh my gosh.

874
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:07.320
<v Speaker 4>Me and shaw Camp that's what made us. You know

875
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:11.079
<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying. They caught us mustard to ketch up

876
00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:13.079
<v Speaker 4>on a hot dog because it was so much fun

877
00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:15.840
<v Speaker 4>playing for me. I throw a pass over my head

878
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:17.559
<v Speaker 4>and he go get it just because I know he could.

879
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:22.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm having fun just thinking about that. Man. It was

880
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:25.119
<v Speaker 1>a long time ago, but that would have been something else.

881
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Sean Woods, the Unforgettable Guard, is my guest. We'll come

882
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.239
<v Speaker 1>back and talk more hoops with Sean and a little

883
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:32.400
<v Speaker 1>football on the other side of the breaking around six

884
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:36.599
<v Speaker 1>thirty wlap Welcome back. We're visiting with Sean Woods, as

885
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:38.920
<v Speaker 1>we do each and every week, The Unforgettable Guard, and

886
00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:41.320
<v Speaker 1>we've talked some football on this show, and you played

887
00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:44.519
<v Speaker 1>a little football. But let me ask you about coaching

888
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:48.880
<v Speaker 1>because now the debate after that Vandy mishap with Kentucky

889
00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:52.880
<v Speaker 1>football last week, and so many people are trying to

890
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:56.519
<v Speaker 1>decide how much of it is coaching, how much of

891
00:51:56.559 --> 00:51:59.199
<v Speaker 1>it is the players. I lean more towards the players.

892
00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:02.000
<v Speaker 1>You talk about the Jimmy's and Joe's, the ones out

893
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:06.360
<v Speaker 1>there making the silly mistakes causing the flags. Now, ultimately

894
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:10.119
<v Speaker 1>the coach is responsible, but it's the same team. It

895
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:13.280
<v Speaker 1>was brilliant two weeks prior against Ole Miss. And I

896
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:17.239
<v Speaker 1>know this is what drives you coaches nuts, But how

897
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:19.199
<v Speaker 1>do you break that down? Sean any you know, and

898
00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I know it's a different sport, But coaching is.

899
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:26.840
<v Speaker 4>Coaching, right, Coaching is coaching. But the difference between coaching

900
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:32.079
<v Speaker 4>and playing, as I know, is you can drill and

901
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:41.079
<v Speaker 4>mentor and put you know, repetition, repetition, repetition, but you

902
00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:45.480
<v Speaker 4>can't go out there and play for and every coach,

903
00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:52.079
<v Speaker 4>especially at that level, is always prepared. It's not like

904
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:55.480
<v Speaker 4>they were not prepared. I think they looked like they

905
00:52:55.519 --> 00:53:00.079
<v Speaker 4>took Vandy for granted, just because of the success they

906
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:04.039
<v Speaker 4>had the last two weeks prior. I didn't see the

907
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:05.920
<v Speaker 4>same type of pop. I don't see the same type

908
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:08.079
<v Speaker 4>of enthusiasm when they came out. I don't see the

909
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:13.000
<v Speaker 4>same type of energy on that sideline. And then all

910
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:15.360
<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, you know you're playing against Vandy and

911
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:19.119
<v Speaker 4>Venny's pretty good. You gotta remember now they just beat Alabama.

912
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:22.079
<v Speaker 4>So there's no slat. You didn't lose to a slouch

913
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:26.519
<v Speaker 4>of a team, right, you did not. You lost to

914
00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:30.320
<v Speaker 4>a hungry Vanderbilt team. Just like what Kentucky is upsetting

915
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:33.119
<v Speaker 4>people and things like that, Vandy and Kentucky are in

916
00:53:33.159 --> 00:53:36.199
<v Speaker 4>the same boat and there are two teams that you

917
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:39.000
<v Speaker 4>don't want to play and you must prepare for or

918
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:42.599
<v Speaker 4>you'll get stung. And I just think that's what happened.

919
00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:48.519
<v Speaker 1>In a situation like this. Coaches, I know, have to

920
00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:52.760
<v Speaker 1>get together first of all with their leaders. And what

921
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:55.440
<v Speaker 1>is that process like as a coach where you've got

922
00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:58.519
<v Speaker 1>to try to right some wrongs and turn the ship

923
00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:00.920
<v Speaker 1>around whatever you want to call it. But you've got

924
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:03.960
<v Speaker 1>to go through the leaders on your team, and it's

925
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:06.400
<v Speaker 1>got to start with them, the guys who have the

926
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:07.440
<v Speaker 1>ownership of the team.

927
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:13.960
<v Speaker 4>What is that like, Well, you know, it's psychological warfare

928
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:18.599
<v Speaker 4>deck and what I mean by that is you're upset

929
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:22.119
<v Speaker 4>as a coach because you're disappointed in their play. Not

930
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:25.519
<v Speaker 4>only that, you're disappointed because you're the one who's getting

931
00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:29.280
<v Speaker 4>the criticism, so you're feeling more under pressure. Those guys

932
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:31.400
<v Speaker 4>are still gonna go see their girlfriends after the game,

933
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:33.559
<v Speaker 4>even though they're bad and sad, they're pissed off because

934
00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:35.920
<v Speaker 4>they play well. They're gonna go out and have a

935
00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:38.480
<v Speaker 4>good time as college kids. While you're sitting up there

936
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:41.840
<v Speaker 4>with your coach is tooling your thumbs, going over film,

937
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:47.199
<v Speaker 4>wondering what happened, and you're still dealing with eighteen to

938
00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:51.159
<v Speaker 4>twenty two year olds. And like we said the other day,

939
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:57.239
<v Speaker 4>the inconsistency of Kentucky football is just that, you know

940
00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:00.079
<v Speaker 4>what I mean. You know, we're trying to get to

941
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:04.039
<v Speaker 4>be a consistent, SEC prominent team, but we're still not

942
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:06.480
<v Speaker 4>there yet. You know, like Vanderbilt's going to have a

943
00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:08.800
<v Speaker 4>couple of bad losses too, unless they this is just

944
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:10.800
<v Speaker 4>a magical year for him because they really get They

945
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:14.000
<v Speaker 4>got a really good quarterback and their defense is pretty

946
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:17.199
<v Speaker 4>is better than what people are thinking. But this is

947
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:19.159
<v Speaker 4>you know, maybe a special year for them, you know,

948
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:21.079
<v Speaker 4>to to overachieve but I don't see that on a

949
00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:27.079
<v Speaker 4>consistent basis, And that's what people have to understand that,

950
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:30.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, yeah, that was a disappointing loss. You know,

951
00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:33.599
<v Speaker 4>we're feeling high because we played you know, Georgia really

952
00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:37.000
<v Speaker 4>good and we beat such and such. But at the

953
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:40.239
<v Speaker 4>end of the day, Dick, you know, it's it's tough.

954
00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:42.559
<v Speaker 4>That's that's that's why the coaches get the big bucks

955
00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:46.199
<v Speaker 4>because everything went, you know, losses come down on them.

956
00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:50.760
<v Speaker 4>Wins is the cornerback or whoever the star player is.

957
00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:55.000
<v Speaker 4>And you know, I feel for coach too, because I

958
00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:56.960
<v Speaker 4>really think that he's one of the top ten best

959
00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:00.880
<v Speaker 4>coaches in America. Really, but I really do, because this

960
00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:01.840
<v Speaker 4>is a hard place.

961
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:04.599
<v Speaker 8>Yeah yeah, I mean, come on, this is I mean,

962
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:07.880
<v Speaker 8>let's let's look at it straight. I'm not knocking Kentucky football.

963
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:16.039
<v Speaker 4>But the history and history prevails, and you know, Alabama's

964
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:17.880
<v Speaker 4>always going to be good no matter what the cool

965
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:20.400
<v Speaker 4>the coach is. Georgia is always going to be good,

966
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:23.159
<v Speaker 4>no matter who the coach is. LSU is always going

967
00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:24.760
<v Speaker 4>to be in the thick of things. Even though they

968
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:27.320
<v Speaker 4>took you know, had a couple of bad years with

969
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:32.159
<v Speaker 4>the coaching change, but those football schools like Kentucky. No

970
00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:32.840
<v Speaker 4>matter who the.

971
00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:35.719
<v Speaker 8>Coach is, there's going to be still a top ten,

972
00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:37.719
<v Speaker 8>top twenty five team every year in the country.

973
00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:44.079
<v Speaker 4>That's not Kentucky football right now. But going to a

974
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:50.760
<v Speaker 4>bowl game every single year, that's really really over the

975
00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:56.119
<v Speaker 4>coach is at the Uniorsey Kentucky. But what makes athletics

976
00:56:56.159 --> 00:57:01.559
<v Speaker 4>as look expectations, right, you know, and you know he's

977
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:06.880
<v Speaker 4>good enough that he's created a major expectation, high expectations

978
00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:09.840
<v Speaker 4>of this football team. That's a credit to him. And

979
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:12.480
<v Speaker 4>then when people get let down because of a bad loss,

980
00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:15.000
<v Speaker 4>that's a credit to him too, because he set the standard.

981
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:19.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the floor has been raised, not just the ceiling,

982
00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:21.639
<v Speaker 1>but the expectations.

983
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:24.519
<v Speaker 4>Right, And it's all because of him. He brought him

984
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:26.599
<v Speaker 4>the deal. So what are you gonna do? You know

985
00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:29.760
<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying now? Are we gonna be like Fairweather fans?

986
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:32.599
<v Speaker 4>We need another coach? No, we don't need another coach.

987
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:36.480
<v Speaker 4>We don't because what you're gonna do it is still

988
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:39.000
<v Speaker 4>gonna be the same. But this guy's been more consistent

989
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:41.000
<v Speaker 4>than any coach that we've had in a long time.

990
00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:42.000
<v Speaker 4>Look at his tenure here.

991
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:44.519
<v Speaker 1>But that's the easy thing to do. Isn't it fire

992
00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:45.840
<v Speaker 1>the coach start over.

993
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:49.440
<v Speaker 4>It's the easiest thing to do, but it's not the

994
00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:50.679
<v Speaker 4>right thing to do.

995
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I get that because, yeah.

996
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:57.800
<v Speaker 4>You think you think he's slept in the last four days.

997
00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:01.000
<v Speaker 1>No, no, okay, it's rare.

998
00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:04.159
<v Speaker 4>Everybody else is sleeping, and everybody else you know, was

999
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:08.400
<v Speaker 4>drinking their beer and drinking their burd in and walking

1000
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:11.559
<v Speaker 4>out of the stadium blaming students. Well while Stups is

1001
00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:16.000
<v Speaker 4>in there a nervous wreck, can't sleepy, didn't have a drink,

1002
00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:19.880
<v Speaker 4>needed one probably after the game, probably did have one.

1003
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:23.559
<v Speaker 4>But what I'm saying is it's a different world. You

1004
00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:26.320
<v Speaker 4>know that in a college coach, being a coach period

1005
00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:31.440
<v Speaker 4>is when you got to depend on eighteen to twenty

1006
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:32.519
<v Speaker 4>two year olds.

1007
00:58:33.039 --> 00:58:35.360
<v Speaker 1>It is rare that a that a coach comes in,

1008
00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:39.800
<v Speaker 1>especially in football, a new, brand new coach, and immediately

1009
00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:44.119
<v Speaker 1>turns things around. You know, people one instant gratification. You've

1010
00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:46.880
<v Speaker 1>talked about that many times on this show. But it

1011
00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:49.719
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't happen. So we'll keep an eye on it.

1012
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:55.800
<v Speaker 4>Actually to with everything, I got that he's the best

1013
00:58:55.840 --> 00:58:58.440
<v Speaker 4>coach for this for this football team. I think he's

1014
00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:01.519
<v Speaker 4>the best coach. That's who he is as a person,

1015
00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:06.280
<v Speaker 4>his personality and invents both. I think they sit yeah,

1016
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:10.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, and you know it. You know, this is

1017
00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:12.480
<v Speaker 4>like I said, it's Kentucky football. You know you're gonna

1018
00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:15.280
<v Speaker 4>have us up. You're gonna have some downs, that's part

1019
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:18.880
<v Speaker 4>of it. You know. You can bring in Bred, bring

1020
00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:21.400
<v Speaker 4>back Bed Brant, you can bring back Verry Switzer, you

1021
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:24.840
<v Speaker 4>can go get coach West the name that was at Alabama.

1022
00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:27.079
<v Speaker 4>This is still Kentucky football.

1023
00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:31.559
<v Speaker 1>They still have some things to figure out, but it's

1024
00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:33.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot more fun I got to tell you than

1025
00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:35.679
<v Speaker 1>it used to be. And I know a lot of

1026
00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:38.440
<v Speaker 1>people will will agree with me on that. Sean Woods

1027
00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:41.039
<v Speaker 1>is the unforgettable guard. We talk to him every week. Coach,

1028
00:59:41.079 --> 00:59:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much.

1029
00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:44.280
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Dick. Happy to talk to you, buddy.

1030
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:48.679
<v Speaker 1>West Nber Chief Gary Moore next on six thirty WLAP

1031
00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Big Blue Insider. It's Wednesday, which means

1032
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:55.079
<v Speaker 1>we look to the west. We look down I sixty

1033
00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:57.719
<v Speaker 1>four to our west end. Bureau Chief Gary Moore used

1034
00:59:57.760 --> 00:59:59.039
<v Speaker 1>to have to look all the way to the west

1035
00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:01.920
<v Speaker 1>coast for Gary. But he's back in LA the Louisville

1036
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:04.760
<v Speaker 1>area and joined us every week, and he's got some

1037
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:06.360
<v Speaker 1>good stuff to talk about, don't you.

1038
01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:08.960
<v Speaker 6>I do two guys in a six pack, you and

1039
01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:11.880
<v Speaker 6>me and six fun things, six swigs, we call him.

1040
01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:13.280
<v Speaker 6>This is my favorite time of year, Dick. This is

1041
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:16.559
<v Speaker 6>this is October. You think about it that. You know,

1042
01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:18.960
<v Speaker 6>we got these great playoff baseball games we were waiting

1043
01:00:18.960 --> 01:00:21.639
<v Speaker 6>for all summer long. You got the great college and

1044
01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:24.800
<v Speaker 6>pro games in October. You got these exhibition NBA games

1045
01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:27.119
<v Speaker 6>that don't mean anything until somebody gets hurt. It's a

1046
01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:28.320
<v Speaker 6>great time of year, isn't it.

1047
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:32.320
<v Speaker 1>So here we go in college basketball on the horizon.

1048
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:35.639
<v Speaker 6>Exactly, all the big blue madness and hard stuff and

1049
01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:39.079
<v Speaker 6>all that fun stuff. Well, let's go with baseball to

1050
01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:40.960
<v Speaker 6>kick things off. Our first swig in the six pack.

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01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:43.400
<v Speaker 6>At the end of this very hour, we're soaking and

1052
01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:45.880
<v Speaker 6>now eight oh eight Eastern to be exact. First pitch

1053
01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:50.480
<v Speaker 6>NLCS Game three Dodgers in zow York City, LA and

1054
01:00:50.519 --> 01:00:53.320
<v Speaker 6>the Mets tied at a game of piece. Dodger starter

1055
01:00:53.679 --> 01:00:57.000
<v Speaker 6>Lexington native Walker Bueller in the biggest game of his

1056
01:00:57.079 --> 01:01:00.639
<v Speaker 6>season since a week ago last night, insane diego, Remember

1057
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:03.719
<v Speaker 6>that you gave up all six padre runs in five innings.

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01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:06.880
<v Speaker 6>Hopefully tonight, Walker will a not give up a six

1059
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:09.480
<v Speaker 6>run inning like he did last week, and b won't

1060
01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:12.400
<v Speaker 6>have his defense fail him in such an inning or

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01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:15.400
<v Speaker 6>in any of them tonight. And I'm sure that the

1062
01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:19.280
<v Speaker 6>crack Dodger bullpen that they've got going on there, with

1063
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:22.039
<v Speaker 6>that bullpen, Walker will be on a leash as long

1064
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:25.960
<v Speaker 6>as a flea's necktie. Okay, So be ready to go.

1065
01:01:26.840 --> 01:01:30.159
<v Speaker 6>Mets are going to counter with right hander Luis Severino,

1066
01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:34.519
<v Speaker 6>good news for Otani, who's looked really mortal against especially

1067
01:01:34.639 --> 01:01:37.840
<v Speaker 6>left handers in the postseason. Dodger swept the Mets in

1068
01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:40.760
<v Speaker 6>New York back in May, so they're at least familiar

1069
01:01:40.760 --> 01:01:42.880
<v Speaker 6>with city field and the fans. I like LA to

1070
01:01:42.920 --> 01:01:44.239
<v Speaker 6>go up two to one tonight.

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01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:48.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, this might be Walker's the biggest game in

1072
01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:52.239
<v Speaker 1>his future, because you know, if he doesn't turn things

1073
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:56.440
<v Speaker 1>around after this second surgery, you wonder and how much

1074
01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:59.760
<v Speaker 1>longer will he be a Dodger? Whither Walker bueler? You

1075
01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:04.320
<v Speaker 1>know CBS Sunday Morning had a piece on Tommy John surgery.

1076
01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:08.119
<v Speaker 1>I saw that, Yeah, and it doesn't always work, as

1077
01:02:08.119 --> 01:02:11.880
<v Speaker 1>they pointed out, and Walker has struggled so Yeah, you

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01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:13.920
<v Speaker 1>root for him, even if you're not a Dodgers fan.

1079
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:17.239
<v Speaker 1>You root for him because this is a vital stage

1080
01:02:17.239 --> 01:02:17.800
<v Speaker 1>of his career.

1081
01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:20.199
<v Speaker 6>He's a good guy, and he's a free agent too,

1082
01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:22.920
<v Speaker 6>So you're right, Ye, this is it. Second swig in

1083
01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:25.559
<v Speaker 6>the six pack. Also tonight, In fact, right now on

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01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:30.119
<v Speaker 6>ESPN two, my WKA Hilltoppers down in Texas, about an

1085
01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:33.320
<v Speaker 6>hour north of Houston, playing Sam Houston in a Conference

1086
01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:37.239
<v Speaker 6>USA game. It's right on a Wednesday, a desperate attempt

1087
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:40.000
<v Speaker 6>to get eyes on his screen for Conference USA. Both

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01:02:40.039 --> 01:02:42.639
<v Speaker 6>Toppers and Sam Houston are two to zero in the conference,

1089
01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:45.239
<v Speaker 6>but the Bearcats are a two and a half point

1090
01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:49.199
<v Speaker 6>favorite over the Toppers. Tonight, speaking of desperate unranked Louisville

1091
01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:53.280
<v Speaker 6>five point underdog bird whatever to number six Miami High

1092
01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:58.079
<v Speaker 6>Noon Saturday, ABC National TV. U of L had major

1093
01:02:58.119 --> 01:02:59.960
<v Speaker 6>problems you recalled a couple of years of weeks ago

1094
01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:03.840
<v Speaker 6>with SMU dual threat quarterback Kevin Jennings. Now they got

1095
01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:06.679
<v Speaker 6>to try and stop Heisman candidate cam Ward. Last year

1096
01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:09.519
<v Speaker 6>the Cards beat the Canes in Miami. They won the

1097
01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:13.199
<v Speaker 6>Schnellenberger Trophy with coaches boots on there. You remember that,

1098
01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:18.119
<v Speaker 6>But they ham Ward at that time was at Washington State.

1099
01:03:18.199 --> 01:03:20.719
<v Speaker 6>So Miami's at five point favorites so far, and it

1100
01:03:20.760 --> 01:03:25.239
<v Speaker 6>feels feels like the Cards maybe giving back that trophy

1101
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:28.559
<v Speaker 6>boots Saturday before he sold out homecoming crowd over here.

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01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's a uh well, first of all, let's

1103
01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:37.840
<v Speaker 1>go back to your beloved Toppers playing on a Wednesday.

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01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Conference you wus say, really, if memory serves, they were

1105
01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:46.840
<v Speaker 1>the first conference to play I think on a Tuesday. Yeah,

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01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:49.239
<v Speaker 1>memory serves. This is, of course after a team was

1107
01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:54.199
<v Speaker 1>off Saturday. But like you point out, desperately seeking eyeballs,

1108
01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:57.079
<v Speaker 1>and it worked, you know, I think it lifted the

1109
01:03:57.159 --> 01:03:59.920
<v Speaker 1>spirits or lifted the fortune to es probably the spirit

1110
01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:03.000
<v Speaker 1>of the team's in Conference USA.

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01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:03.519
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

1112
01:04:03.639 --> 01:04:07.440
<v Speaker 1>And let's face it, college football trumping all over high

1113
01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:11.039
<v Speaker 1>school football on Fridays. That's well, in the rearview mirror,

1114
01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:14.800
<v Speaker 1>they're going to play whenever and wherever they can to

1115
01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:17.880
<v Speaker 1>draw eyeball. So but I got to tell you I'm.

1116
01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:20.559
<v Speaker 6>Rooting for him, me too. And they, in fact, they

1117
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:24.519
<v Speaker 6>had Conference USA against last night, Yeah, exactly, Tuesday then Wednesday.

1118
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And by the way, Louisville Miami, I don't remember

1119
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:30.199
<v Speaker 1>what year, but it was several years ago, at least

1120
01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:34.199
<v Speaker 1>ten or twelve, when U of L was making a

1121
01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:37.079
<v Speaker 1>run at a BCS title, trying to run the table

1122
01:04:37.679 --> 01:04:41.280
<v Speaker 1>and had a big game with Miami and blew it.

1123
01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:44.679
<v Speaker 1>Carrie Roadie went on to a good NFL career, dropped

1124
01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:49.280
<v Speaker 1>an interception. Remember that game. Oh yeah, Miami beaten and

1125
01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:51.679
<v Speaker 1>that would have been a huge step for Louisville football,

1126
01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:54.039
<v Speaker 1>and they just couldn't quite pull it off. I think

1127
01:04:54.039 --> 01:04:56.480
<v Speaker 1>that was the same year they beat Florida State in

1128
01:04:56.519 --> 01:05:01.239
<v Speaker 1>a monsoon in Louisville and buddies who worked that game,

1129
01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:03.719
<v Speaker 1>their cameras got washed away. I mean, it was it

1130
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:06.440
<v Speaker 1>was a weird season. Well, Miami's done that too.

1131
01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:09.800
<v Speaker 6>When I was in La Ucla was going for number

1132
01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:11.760
<v Speaker 6>one or they were in the top two or three,

1133
01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:14.519
<v Speaker 6>and they had that game reschedule because of a hurricane.

1134
01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:16.440
<v Speaker 6>They went back and I think the first part of

1135
01:05:16.440 --> 01:05:19.519
<v Speaker 6>December and Edger and James went crazy, beat Ucla and

1136
01:05:19.519 --> 01:05:23.039
<v Speaker 6>there went the national title hopes. It happens with that team.

1137
01:05:23.119 --> 01:05:25.360
<v Speaker 6>Our third swig and our six pack. You know, I

1138
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:28.119
<v Speaker 6>grew up in Murray, two hours from Nashville. That was

1139
01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:30.559
<v Speaker 6>the closest big city to us down there. And you know,

1140
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:33.719
<v Speaker 6>we always heard people call Vanderbilt University the Harvard of

1141
01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:35.559
<v Speaker 6>the South. Maybe you heard that too, for all of

1142
01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:39.159
<v Speaker 6>this academic superiority. And I can tell you in their

1143
01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:42.159
<v Speaker 6>bookstore they used to sell maybe they still sell shirts

1144
01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:45.800
<v Speaker 6>with this school's official IVY League shield and the words

1145
01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:50.559
<v Speaker 6>Harvard the Vanderbilt of the North. I bring this up

1146
01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:55.000
<v Speaker 6>because of how much smarter Bandy played on UK's home

1147
01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:57.599
<v Speaker 6>field again last Saturday. You know you were there, you

1148
01:05:57.639 --> 01:05:59.920
<v Speaker 6>saw it. We all saw they played smarter, better, more

1149
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:03.559
<v Speaker 6>discipline in the UK and Dickt's almost as if that

1150
01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:06.599
<v Speaker 6>old miss game never even happened because the Cats look

1151
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:10.559
<v Speaker 6>so unintelligent. So now we've got to go down to Gainesville,

1152
01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:13.199
<v Speaker 6>where you'll be there. UK is a one point favorite

1153
01:06:13.400 --> 01:06:16.440
<v Speaker 6>Saturday night down in the Swamp on the SEC network,

1154
01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:19.599
<v Speaker 6>seven forty five against Florida. Now the Gators damn near

1155
01:06:19.639 --> 01:06:21.880
<v Speaker 6>one at Knoxville on Saturday. So I ask you, are

1156
01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:24.320
<v Speaker 6>the Gators getting better or do you think that was

1157
01:06:24.360 --> 01:06:26.559
<v Speaker 6>just kind of a fluke on the part of Florida

1158
01:06:26.599 --> 01:06:27.519
<v Speaker 6>and Tennessee's part.

1159
01:06:27.719 --> 01:06:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I think part of it was Tennessee is not quite

1160
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:32.519
<v Speaker 1>what we thought it would be. But I think Florida

1161
01:06:32.760 --> 01:06:36.559
<v Speaker 1>is on the verge of figuring things out, But that

1162
01:06:36.719 --> 01:06:40.800
<v Speaker 1>line flipped dramatically when you hear the Graham Mertz is done.

1163
01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:44.239
<v Speaker 1>That quarterback could transferred in last year, it might have

1164
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:47.239
<v Speaker 1>been a Kentucky Wildcat, it said, ends up a Gator.

1165
01:06:47.519 --> 01:06:50.239
<v Speaker 1>But now they'll start a true freshman quarterback. So suddenly

1166
01:06:50.639 --> 01:06:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's a one point favorite. Has had success looking for

1167
01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:58.320
<v Speaker 1>four straight against Florida. But yeah, if they go down

1168
01:06:58.360 --> 01:07:01.519
<v Speaker 1>there and play like knuckleheads the way they did last Saturday,

1169
01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:03.480
<v Speaker 1>they might lose by two scores.

1170
01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:07.199
<v Speaker 6>Fourth Swig and the six Pack. Beside the Cards and

1171
01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:10.719
<v Speaker 6>Cats and Toppers games, check out these three college games

1172
01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:14.679
<v Speaker 6>if you dare noon on Saturday. Number sixteen Indiana has

1173
01:07:14.760 --> 01:07:17.880
<v Speaker 6>their homecoming game with five and one Nebraska. My bride

1174
01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:20.079
<v Speaker 6>and I will be in Bloomington at her alma mater,

1175
01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:23.760
<v Speaker 6>IU six and a half point favorite. Number seven Bama

1176
01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:26.840
<v Speaker 6>in Knoxville for the number eleven Volves. That's three balls

1177
01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:29.920
<v Speaker 6>for Let's see three thirty at ABC Bama a three

1178
01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:32.360
<v Speaker 6>point favorite so far in that one, and of course,

1179
01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:34.760
<v Speaker 6>the college game of the weekend without question, Number five

1180
01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:38.360
<v Speaker 6>Georgia at number one Texas Horns a three and a

1181
01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:41.119
<v Speaker 6>half point favorite at this point seven thirty Saturday Night

1182
01:07:41.199 --> 01:07:44.440
<v Speaker 6>in ABC. I'll take the Hoosiers to go seven to zero,

1183
01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:47.679
<v Speaker 6>and I'll also take Bama and Texas in two really

1184
01:07:47.719 --> 01:07:48.679
<v Speaker 6>close games there.

1185
01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with you. I think Bama Tennessee one

1186
01:07:53.800 --> 01:07:57.480
<v Speaker 1>of the great rivalries. People think about Kentucky Tennessee for something.

1187
01:07:57.559 --> 01:08:02.800
<v Speaker 1>No Tennessee fans they want Bama, and Bama is shown

1188
01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:06.800
<v Speaker 1>to be mortal as we all know. But I do

1189
01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:09.280
<v Speaker 1>think Bama wins that one. I would love to see

1190
01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:12.440
<v Speaker 1>IU beat Nebraska. I think six and a half is

1191
01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:14.920
<v Speaker 1>a big number, but I think I you can get

1192
01:08:14.920 --> 01:08:17.760
<v Speaker 1>it done. And I think Texas is just too good.

1193
01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:20.359
<v Speaker 1>I think Georgia is really good, but I just think

1194
01:08:20.399 --> 01:08:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Texas is just a tick better, maybe because of the quarterback.

1195
01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:26.800
<v Speaker 1>But I was in earlier in the show Geary talking

1196
01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:30.520
<v Speaker 1>about ratings and man, the SEC is swimming in it

1197
01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:33.399
<v Speaker 1>right now, and so it was the big ten. So

1198
01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:37.039
<v Speaker 1>I think they're gonna be huge audiences. And I think

1199
01:08:37.079 --> 01:08:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Indiana Nebraska is gonna draw a big one. Even though

1200
01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Fox has not done too well with Big noon kickoff

1201
01:08:43.880 --> 01:08:45.720
<v Speaker 1>and all that, I think that there's gonna be a

1202
01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:47.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of red in that stadium. But I think that's

1203
01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:48.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna be.

1204
01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:50.600
<v Speaker 6>Definitely, Yeah, I think it's sold out. If not, it's

1205
01:08:50.680 --> 01:08:51.399
<v Speaker 6>very close to being.

1206
01:08:51.640 --> 01:08:55.039
<v Speaker 1>And that's a shocker because there have been back in

1207
01:08:55.079 --> 01:08:58.319
<v Speaker 1>the day Indiana was going to Bowl games, nobody showed up, right,

1208
01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:00.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, but I think there's year right they'll show

1209
01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:01.239
<v Speaker 1>for this one.

1210
01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:03.800
<v Speaker 6>Their coaches egging on the fans to get out there,

1211
01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:05.239
<v Speaker 6>especially for students to show up.

1212
01:09:05.279 --> 01:09:05.680
<v Speaker 1>So good.

1213
01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:08.439
<v Speaker 6>I know, Hey, what else is there to do in

1214
01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:11.239
<v Speaker 6>your college? Come on, man's what college is about? Go

1215
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:14.720
<v Speaker 6>to these football games? Yeah, fifth swig and the six pack. Okay,

1216
01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:18.079
<v Speaker 6>let's talk to NFL. Three supersized games on Sunday and

1217
01:09:18.119 --> 01:09:20.199
<v Speaker 6>one next Monday night. But you know, to get to

1218
01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:22.560
<v Speaker 6>those games, we got to slog through the Broncos and

1219
01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:26.479
<v Speaker 6>Saints tomorrow night, and then Sunday morning at nine thirty

1220
01:09:26.880 --> 01:09:30.000
<v Speaker 6>again from London, this time at Wimbley Stadium, the good

1221
01:09:30.039 --> 01:09:33.000
<v Speaker 6>people of Great Britain get a game about as disappointing

1222
01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:35.960
<v Speaker 6>as their dental work. The one in five Jags and

1223
01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:37.479
<v Speaker 6>the one five Patriots.

1224
01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I apologize for that.

1225
01:09:39.760 --> 01:09:42.000
<v Speaker 6>Hey, look, they unloaded Harry and Megan on us. So

1226
01:09:42.039 --> 01:09:44.760
<v Speaker 6>it seems like this is like a small payback. Okay,

1227
01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:48.920
<v Speaker 6>after those, you got your Packers at home at Lambeau

1228
01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:52.600
<v Speaker 6>three point favorites over the Texans, and also at one

1229
01:09:52.640 --> 01:09:56.960
<v Speaker 6>o'clock also in the NFL North, the Lions two and

1230
01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:01.239
<v Speaker 6>a half point undercats at the Vikings. For twenty five,

1231
01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:04.800
<v Speaker 6>we get a Super Bowl rematch Kansas City one point

1232
01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:08.039
<v Speaker 6>underdogs at San Francisco, and then Monday Night eight point

1233
01:10:08.039 --> 01:10:11.279
<v Speaker 6>fifteen marvelous and the Ravens three and a half point

1234
01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:14.239
<v Speaker 6>favorites at Tampa Bay. A lot of eyeballs on that game,

1235
01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:16.039
<v Speaker 6>but Monday Night's been really good. We'll talk about that

1236
01:10:16.039 --> 01:10:17.960
<v Speaker 6>a little bit later on. But I think, Dick, you're

1237
01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:22.720
<v Speaker 6>gonna be pulling oddly enough for Detroit this weekend, won't you?

1238
01:10:23.239 --> 01:10:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I will, because I cannot root for the Vikings.

1239
01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:29.439
<v Speaker 1>And you know, you got Josh Pascal playing for the Lions,

1240
01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:30.680
<v Speaker 1>so you got to root for him as well. But

1241
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:33.760
<v Speaker 1>that's that's just a team that even though you hated

1242
01:10:33.800 --> 01:10:36.119
<v Speaker 1>to see Hutchinson go down, it's going to be a

1243
01:10:36.199 --> 01:10:40.720
<v Speaker 1>tough one for my Packers with the Texans, but Jags Pats,

1244
01:10:40.720 --> 01:10:42.760
<v Speaker 1>they'll be a huge crowd because people, as you know,

1245
01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:45.560
<v Speaker 1>love going to London You've been there many times.

1246
01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:47.479
<v Speaker 6>They sell out every game, Yeah.

1247
01:10:47.279 --> 01:10:49.840
<v Speaker 1>They do, but it will not be a great game.

1248
01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Although Drake may has shown he might well be the

1249
01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:56.520
<v Speaker 1>quarterback of the future, but Trevor Lawrence may not be

1250
01:10:56.560 --> 01:10:59.119
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback of the future for Jacksonville. I think his,

1251
01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:02.039
<v Speaker 1>if not his career, at least his status is on

1252
01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:02.520
<v Speaker 1>the line.

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<v Speaker 6>Sixth and final swig in the six pack. As you

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01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:08.239
<v Speaker 6>talked about here last night, a mere thirty six years

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<v Speaker 6>ago yesterday, Kirk Gibson did the impossible in a Dodgers

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01:11:12.520 --> 01:11:15.159
<v Speaker 6>year that was so improbable, as Vin Scully said, YEP.

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<v Speaker 6>World Series Game one, nineteen eighty eight, bottom of the ninth,

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01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:21.680
<v Speaker 6>Dodgers trailing four to three against the the tough Oakland

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01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:25.119
<v Speaker 6>A's and the Bash Brothers, bottom of the ninth, two outs,

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01:11:25.159 --> 01:11:27.760
<v Speaker 6>one man on. Kirk Gibson wasn't even supposed to be

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01:11:27.840 --> 01:11:31.800
<v Speaker 6>anywhere near a batter's box. Hobbles up to pinch, hit,

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01:11:32.319 --> 01:11:34.880
<v Speaker 6>got down two, worked at the three and two off

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01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:37.600
<v Speaker 6>Ace reliever Dennis Eckersley then hit a back door slider

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01:11:37.680 --> 01:11:40.720
<v Speaker 6>over the right field fence, five to four, walk off win,

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01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:43.840
<v Speaker 6>and that was Gibson's only at batan the entire series

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<v Speaker 6>that the Dodgers went under win four games to one,

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01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:49.079
<v Speaker 6>and Dick I was at all five of those games.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice the uh.

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<v Speaker 6>It was the first World Series I ever covered. In fact,

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01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:54.920
<v Speaker 6>that was my first World Series game.

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<v Speaker 1>To ever cover.

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01:11:56.119 --> 01:11:58.640
<v Speaker 6>I should have retired to that point. We were in

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01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:01.760
<v Speaker 6>the auxiliary press section up upper deck, and I almost

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01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:04.520
<v Speaker 6>missed it because after the second out we thought, well,

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01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:05.880
<v Speaker 6>this is going to be it. You know whoever's going

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01:12:05.920 --> 01:12:07.680
<v Speaker 6>to pinch hit? And wait a minute, it's Gibson.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>When we were about ready to go down stairs by

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<v Speaker 6>the by the aisle, yeah, yeah for the things, Okay,

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01:12:16.119 --> 01:12:19.239
<v Speaker 6>we better watch this sort of thing. And it was

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<v Speaker 6>such a huge, huge moment. I don't think I've ever

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01:12:23.159 --> 01:12:25.279
<v Speaker 6>heard Dodger Stadium that loud, and all the games I've

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01:12:25.319 --> 01:12:28.199
<v Speaker 6>covered since then, and even going to games before that,

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01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:30.840
<v Speaker 6>the sustained loudness was was unbelievable. In fact, there's a

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01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:33.479
<v Speaker 6>seat that they've commemorated where the ball hit that you

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01:12:33.479 --> 01:12:36.359
<v Speaker 6>can actually buy now, the Kurt Gibson seat. It's right there.

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<v Speaker 6>It has been voted the greatest moment in Dodger's history. Sure, well,

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01:12:40.760 --> 01:12:42.720
<v Speaker 6>after they signed this guy named Jackie, I think that

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01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:45.159
<v Speaker 6>would probably take presidence over that. But what a moment,

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01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:46.319
<v Speaker 6>What an incredible moment.

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01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, could you feel the stadium shaking? I mean

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01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you could, yes, Wow, amazing. And as I said last night,

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01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:57.079
<v Speaker 1>I was actually anchoring our magazine show, our sports show,

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01:12:58.079 --> 01:13:02.359
<v Speaker 1>and that game, you know, Ransom and our editor comes

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01:13:02.439 --> 01:13:04.439
<v Speaker 1>running down with a script in the sand goes you

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01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:07.920
<v Speaker 1>will not believe what just happened. So the first time

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01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:11.199
<v Speaker 1>I saw the video was when I voiced it live

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01:13:11.239 --> 01:13:14.560
<v Speaker 1>on the news that night, and it was just phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It's such a great moment to revisit. I

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01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:20.159
<v Speaker 1>loved and I love playing both the TV call last

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01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:24.359
<v Speaker 1>night and the radio call Jack Yeah, Don Drysdale, No,

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01:13:24.520 --> 01:13:26.800
<v Speaker 1>not the national Don Drysdale.

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01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:29.800
<v Speaker 6>I'll doger radio right, Yeah yeah.

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01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Bucks was great too, but I'd never heard Drysdale's call

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01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:36.319
<v Speaker 1>along with Vinnie you know, so great but uh yeah,

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01:13:36.399 --> 01:13:39.439
<v Speaker 1>one of the great moments in baseball history. We'll come

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01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:42.840
<v Speaker 1>back and talk more with our Western Bureau chief, Gary Moore.

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01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Hot Ras coming up on six point thirty WLAP. Welcome back.

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01:13:47.359 --> 01:13:50.319
<v Speaker 1>We're chalking with our West n Bureau chief Gary Moore.

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01:13:50.399 --> 01:13:52.720
<v Speaker 1>We've gone through two guys in a six pack. Time

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01:13:52.720 --> 01:13:55.920
<v Speaker 1>for a couple of hot reads. I'll throw at Gary.

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01:13:56.199 --> 01:13:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Why don't we start with the NFL since we talked

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01:13:58.439 --> 01:14:02.600
<v Speaker 1>so much about him? Bill Jets much of a game?

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01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:02.920
<v Speaker 7>Eh?

1315
01:14:03.199 --> 01:14:05.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, it was an interesting game, but on paper

1316
01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:07.720
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't think it would mean much to look at.

1317
01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:14.840
<v Speaker 1>But the multi tiered coverage by ABC, ESPN, ESPN two.

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01:14:14.920 --> 01:14:17.880
<v Speaker 1>People wonder why do you compete with yourself? Why do

1319
01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:20.800
<v Speaker 1>you put the games on all these different channels based

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01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Well here's why. Because they drew seventeen point three million viewers. Amazing. Wow,

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01:14:28.640 --> 01:14:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I realize it's the NFL. I realized there are a

1322
01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:35.479
<v Speaker 1>lot of souls football fans living in New York. But

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01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:39.880
<v Speaker 1>would you expect that kind of viewership for that kind

1324
01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:42.600
<v Speaker 1>of game? I sure wouldn't. Aaron Rodgers is going to

1325
01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:46.119
<v Speaker 1>draw some some interest, and I like watching it because

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01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:47.560
<v Speaker 1>of Ray Davis having a big game.

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01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:48.640
<v Speaker 6>Boy, it wasn't that great.

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01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:53.199
<v Speaker 1>It was great. But this is just some brilliant programming,

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01:14:53.359 --> 01:14:57.399
<v Speaker 1>isn't it? By the network? Networks plural? But it's all Disney.

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01:14:57.479 --> 01:14:58.239
<v Speaker 1>It's the mouse.

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01:14:59.119 --> 01:15:00.560
<v Speaker 6>You're gonna do it again, money, They're gonna do it

1332
01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:02.079
<v Speaker 6>against this and why not?

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01:15:02.760 --> 01:15:03.199
<v Speaker 4>Why not?

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01:15:04.039 --> 01:15:04.560
<v Speaker 1>It's perfect.

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01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:06.800
<v Speaker 6>It's it's a great idea, especially for that for for

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01:15:06.920 --> 01:15:09.560
<v Speaker 6>that number to pop up in the slog of a

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01:15:09.640 --> 01:15:13.079
<v Speaker 6>game that was but there was a penalty every other play. Seemingly,

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01:15:13.439 --> 01:15:16.199
<v Speaker 6>it just became unwatchable at a certain point with with

1339
01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:19.079
<v Speaker 6>guys missing field goals, you know, and and and all

1340
01:15:19.119 --> 01:15:22.279
<v Speaker 6>these holding calls and great plays got called back, guys

1341
01:15:22.359 --> 01:15:25.760
<v Speaker 6>dropping balls. It just was was an ugly game, but

1342
01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:28.199
<v Speaker 6>the numbers sure weren't ugly. And well, we got a

1343
01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:29.439
<v Speaker 6>good one coming up Monday too.

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01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:31.359
<v Speaker 1>And it's not like it was when we were kids

1345
01:15:31.359 --> 01:15:33.640
<v Speaker 1>and there were only three or four channels, and if

1346
01:15:33.640 --> 01:15:38.199
<v Speaker 1>the President was talking, you know, you had nowhere to go.

1347
01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:40.720
<v Speaker 1>There's a thousand channels out there. You got a lot

1348
01:15:40.760 --> 01:15:43.439
<v Speaker 1>of choices. But a lot of people chose to tune

1349
01:15:43.439 --> 01:15:47.279
<v Speaker 1>into this one and uh, watch the Jets drop another

1350
01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:52.159
<v Speaker 1>one and again, uh good for Ray Davis. Secondly, those

1351
01:15:52.199 --> 01:15:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys keep losing and Jerry Jones lashes out Breton's the Fire.

1352
01:15:57.399 --> 01:16:00.920
<v Speaker 1>A couple of talk show hosts on on the Fan,

1353
01:16:01.640 --> 01:16:04.279
<v Speaker 1>the FM station in Dallas that has the games. You

1354
01:16:04.319 --> 01:16:08.079
<v Speaker 1>and I worked together. We met at the station are

1355
01:16:08.119 --> 01:16:10.159
<v Speaker 1>in town that used to have the U came at work,

1356
01:16:10.399 --> 01:16:13.279
<v Speaker 1>and people wonder how do you handle that? You know,

1357
01:16:13.359 --> 01:16:16.119
<v Speaker 1>and I did the very first sports talk show in

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01:16:16.159 --> 01:16:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Central Kentucky. You know, how do you how do you

1359
01:16:19.079 --> 01:16:22.319
<v Speaker 1>criticize the team that's on your station and things like that.

1360
01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:25.039
<v Speaker 1>But Jerry Jones, I mean what they put to this

1361
01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:28.479
<v Speaker 1>guy wasn't all that challenging. Well, I think he's losing

1362
01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:31.439
<v Speaker 1>his mind, I really think and threatening and he says,

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01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:34.159
<v Speaker 1>and I'm paying these guys, No, no, they're paying you

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01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:36.279
<v Speaker 1>for the games. Yep.

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01:16:36.319 --> 01:16:37.920
<v Speaker 6>And you see what else he said to the athletic

1366
01:16:38.199 --> 01:16:40.720
<v Speaker 6>The wrong ones were doing the questioning. Now, if those

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01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:42.800
<v Speaker 6>had been real fans sitting there, if they had been

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01:16:42.880 --> 01:16:46.119
<v Speaker 6>people that knew what they were talking about, football people,

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01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:49.399
<v Speaker 6>I might have had a different answer. Really Well, you're

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01:16:49.399 --> 01:16:52.520
<v Speaker 6>a football guy who's the owner, president, and general manager

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01:16:52.560 --> 01:16:54.520
<v Speaker 6>of a team that hasn't been to the Super Bowl

1372
01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:58.079
<v Speaker 6>in twenty eight years, much less an NFC championship game

1373
01:16:58.359 --> 01:17:00.840
<v Speaker 6>in twenty eight years, So you think you know everything.

1374
01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:02.840
<v Speaker 6>And I guarantee if a fan had been in there,

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01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:05.279
<v Speaker 6>there probably would been a lot of f bombs and

1376
01:17:05.319 --> 01:17:10.159
<v Speaker 6>stuff more frustrated fan base than a professional who actually

1377
01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:12.520
<v Speaker 6>does snow football and who actually is following the stuff.

1378
01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:14.159
<v Speaker 6>This guy's a control freak, and he probably needs to

1379
01:17:14.159 --> 01:17:14.920
<v Speaker 6>set aside he's.

1380
01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:15.680
<v Speaker 1>An old fool.

1381
01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:18.279
<v Speaker 6>And if the guy who's he's an old fool, who

1382
01:17:18.439 --> 01:17:21.119
<v Speaker 6>is the head of an eleven billion dollar franchise and

1383
01:17:21.199 --> 01:17:23.800
<v Speaker 6>he can't handle some words from guys on the radio,

1384
01:17:24.439 --> 01:17:25.800
<v Speaker 6>throw a backbone, man.

1385
01:17:26.039 --> 01:17:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you use the word I was looking for.

1386
01:17:28.039 --> 01:17:31.800
<v Speaker 1>As a professional, these guys have been doing this radio

1387
01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:35.119
<v Speaker 1>show and working in radio and covering the NFL. Naturally

1388
01:17:35.119 --> 01:17:37.920
<v Speaker 1>we're going to take up for him. But as somebody

1389
01:17:37.960 --> 01:17:40.640
<v Speaker 1>pointed out what I was reading, Jerry Jones has handled

1390
01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:45.119
<v Speaker 1>far more difficult questions. But I'm like you, I think

1391
01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:46.159
<v Speaker 1>eternity questions.

1392
01:17:47.840 --> 01:17:48.880
<v Speaker 6>How about that one, Jared?

1393
01:17:49.279 --> 01:17:52.840
<v Speaker 1>But I think I just think his time is just

1394
01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:56.600
<v Speaker 1>growing dim And you know, he paid all that money

1395
01:17:56.640 --> 01:18:00.399
<v Speaker 1>for Dak Prescott, got his contract done, and you know

1396
01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:02.199
<v Speaker 1>what has he done nothing? Team?

1397
01:18:02.319 --> 01:18:04.479
<v Speaker 6>The team isn't well, look what happened with Detroit. They

1398
01:18:04.520 --> 01:18:06.279
<v Speaker 6>weren't even close to being competitive.

1399
01:18:06.439 --> 01:18:07.319
<v Speaker 1>No, in that game.

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01:18:07.600 --> 01:18:11.520
<v Speaker 6>No, that was an embarrassment, like a college team playing

1401
01:18:11.520 --> 01:18:12.000
<v Speaker 6>a pro team.

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01:18:12.039 --> 01:18:14.000
<v Speaker 1>At looks, you get to wonder is at rock bottom?

1403
01:18:14.479 --> 01:18:17.159
<v Speaker 1>But rock bottom may be right around the corner. So

1404
01:18:17.199 --> 01:18:20.680
<v Speaker 1>who knows, but it's never the fault of the general manager.

1405
01:18:21.079 --> 01:18:22.960
<v Speaker 6>As long as he stays there, they're still going to stink.

1406
01:18:23.000 --> 01:18:25.600
<v Speaker 6>So Jerry stick around for a ten fifteen years as

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01:18:25.640 --> 01:18:26.520
<v Speaker 6>far as we're concerned.

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01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:29.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm good with that, all right. Well, he is our

1409
01:18:29.399 --> 01:18:31.800
<v Speaker 1>West End bureau chief, Gary Moore. You can always find

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01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:32.720
<v Speaker 1>him working.

1411
01:18:32.439 --> 01:18:36.399
<v Speaker 6>About Twitter or ex where at nine to five five Gary,

1412
01:18:36.600 --> 01:18:38.159
<v Speaker 6>just down the row from you at.

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01:18:38.239 --> 01:18:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Big Boo Insider one. See you next week.

1414
01:18:40.560 --> 01:18:41.520
<v Speaker 6>Have fun in the swamp.

1415
01:18:41.720 --> 01:18:43.680
<v Speaker 1>And that'll do it. Thanks to my guest tonight, to

1416
01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Gary Moore, to Shawn Woods, and of course to Van

1417
01:18:46.399 --> 01:18:49.199
<v Speaker 1>Hiles and a shameless plug. I will be back with

1418
01:18:49.239 --> 01:18:52.760
<v Speaker 1>you tomorrow morning on the Leech Report, bright and early,

1419
01:18:53.359 --> 01:18:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and of course a reminder, we've got Kentucky football coming

1420
01:18:56.079 --> 01:18:59.039
<v Speaker 1>up Saturday night. And how vital is this one?

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01:18:59.159 --> 01:18:59.199
<v Speaker 7>Is?

1422
01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:01.920
<v Speaker 1>A Wildcats? Is it? The Florida Gators? Supposed to be

1423
01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:05.319
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful evening in the swamp. Maybe it will be

1424
01:19:05.439 --> 01:19:08.359
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful game for the Wildcats. They know how to

1425
01:19:08.439 --> 01:19:12.079
<v Speaker 1>win down there, and it's a Gator team that is

1426
01:19:12.119 --> 01:19:14.760
<v Speaker 1>fighting for its season and a coach coaching for his

1427
01:19:14.920 --> 01:19:17.840
<v Speaker 1>job most likely will have it for you. Five thirty

1428
01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:21.880
<v Speaker 1>start time with Christy Logan and Jeremy and then Tom Leech,

1429
01:19:21.960 --> 01:19:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Jeffcoor and I with a call Cats taking on those

1430
01:19:24.680 --> 01:19:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Gators coming up Saturday night, seven forty five. It's on

1431
01:19:28.199 --> 01:19:30.760
<v Speaker 1>the SEC Network. But of course you got two ears.

1432
01:19:30.800 --> 01:19:33.520
<v Speaker 1>He is one for TV and one for radio. I

1433
01:19:33.520 --> 01:19:36.199
<v Speaker 1>always recommend that that's it. Good night from the garage

1434
01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:36.880
<v Speaker 1>in Lexington.

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01:19:37.119 --> 01:19:39.000
<v Speaker 4>I got no respect to day I was born, really

1436
01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:41.039
<v Speaker 4>no respect. The doctor picked me up and smacked me.

1437
01:19:41.079 --> 01:19:42.520
<v Speaker 4>I found out the night she got a few into
