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Speaker 1: All right, guys, well listen, welcome to the Paul Junior Podcast,

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Farm Truck and Agent.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe it. We're finally kind of getting together here.

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Speaker 3: Huh man, this is great.

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Speaker 4: I think the last time we ran into each other

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was that New York maybe I got that upfront.

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Speaker 2: That's the first.

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Speaker 1: That's the first and only time I think we met,

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if I'm not mistaken, right, when was that ten years ago?

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Speaker 2: Like a long time ago? Huh oh, something like that.

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 5: What is an upfront? In your opinion? That was our

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first one?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, So the upfronts, Okay, they don't do them anymore.

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So the upfronts were just basically for ad sales. They

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would just bring in the ad sales buyers, right, so

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everyone Discovery selling Advertising two would come in and it

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was a dog and pony show.

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Speaker 2: All the talent would be roaming around.

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Speaker 1: You'd see, you know, the guys from the different shows

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and uh, yeah, you guys were there.

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Speaker 2: We were there. You know, you get all the ship ships.

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Speaker 1: Captain Vanilla Ice, Dude, that was that was a big

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day for me.

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 2: And he looked great. He didn't age one day.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's pretty much what upfronts are.

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Speaker 3: That was the last one they ever did. We ended

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all that we were a team.

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Speaker 2: They were like, we'll never get this group together again.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's funny you say that because I just did a

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podcast with Todd from gold Rush and uh, he was

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telling me a really funny upfront story about early on

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when his show started, he had to go up on

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stage and Oprah Winfrey was out there and he was

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like in panic mode, you know, because she's out there

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doing her thing. It's it was funny. But yeah, the

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uprunts were big forever. I mean they did those and

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we did like three a year. And you know, back

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when American Chopper first kicked off, we were like their

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big show forever and that first like five year run

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we were we had to do all these things were

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it was like a big dog and pony show.

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Speaker 2: All the time. But it was cool.

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Speaker 1: We had We had a lot of fun and we

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were able to It's the only time where we met

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other talent like yourselves from some of these other shows.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise, nobody sees each other, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, don't you think that's weird?

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Speaker 4: Like now, as like influencership and social media has proliferated,

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like it's it's common to see influencers hanging out right there.

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We're doing races and stuff like that, and it's easier

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for you to connect with us like today. But like

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for some reason, there was such like segregation for the

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television talent, right, like it rarely did you ever clap,

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In fact that all the universes they almost kept it

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that way, where they like, oh, no, don't be seen together.

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Speaker 5: Why do you think that is?

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you why it is.

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Speaker 1: It's funny you say that, because I'm going way back

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because I always thought, man, I like these shows. We're

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all on the same network, and nobody says anything that

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you like.

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Speaker 2: You see each other almost never.

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Speaker 1: They keep the talent away because they don't want talent

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talking to each other about what they're.

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Speaker 2: Getting and not getting and things of that.

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Speaker 1: Nature, right, because everybody's deals are so very different and

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they don't want me telling you what I'm making. And

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then you think, well, our ratings are pretty much the same,

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and you know I should be getting And that's that's

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really what it comes down to. They don't like you talking,

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they don't like you meet and they want you staying

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as far away from each other as possible that you know,

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do I have any proof to that? Not really, but

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if you ask me, I really think that's what it is,

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because I mean.

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Speaker 3: We were making fives and tens.

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Speaker 1: At least nobody, yeah, at least every other episode, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think that.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the case, to be honest with you,

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and I always tried to you know, it's funny because

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we are show kicked off I think in beginning of

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two thousand and three, so we were like one of

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the first talent for Discovery in this capacity, like the

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way you guys.

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Speaker 2: Are, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I remember early on Adam from MythBusters called me

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his contract was up, and he you know, I gave

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him all kinds of advice because I had a lot

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of experience negotiating with Discovery at the time. And ultimately

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it really panned out good for him because he didn't

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know everything I told him, because I knew a lot

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because we had been through this, you know, big negotiating thing,

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and it really helped him negotiate his contract. So case

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in point, they were probably right for keeping everybody away

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from each other.

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Speaker 2: It probably saved him a few bucks, you know, But.

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Speaker 4: I mean I wish when we started we had a

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you to reach out to, because man, we didn't, we

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knew nothing.

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Speaker 5: We would we h we would have paid to have

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some advice, you know.

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Speaker 4: So when you first started out, did you have anybody

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to call, you know, teeing you up to what to

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expect outside of an attorney or a talent.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, And we were probably we were probably a

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step behind you guys at the time, even when in

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your early days, because I mean we are coming from nowhere, Montgomery,

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New York, nowhere, and we had no television anything.

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Speaker 2: We didn't aspire to it.

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Speaker 1: So it's not like we looked at it and tried

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to figure out, what how does this system work? It

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just kind of fell into our laps, you know, and

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then here we are. The show just was so successful

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so quickly. It just it was like skyrocketed because apparently

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there was an appetite at the time for what we

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were providing and we didn't even know it. So no,

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we actually filmed, we did two pilots, okay, and then

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and then we were into like our sixth episode and

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we still didn't have a contract with Discovery and the

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momentum was building, so by time, like the ratings were

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coming out and we could tell they were getting real

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panicky because they didn't have a sign. So we were like,

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they we just the deal we did no one's ever done,

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because we were real bold about it because we had

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we knew at the time, I'm what we were bringing

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to the table. We were smart enough to know what

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the ratings were. You know, we were already doing licensing,

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that kind of went into play before we actually negotiated

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our contracts. So we went in pretty like confident, I guess,

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and they kind of caved to everything.

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Speaker 2: So our deal was a pretty good deal. So no,

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Speaker 1: Didn't have anyone to go to, but we were just

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kind of like stubborn about it, you know.

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Speaker 2: And that was good. But then it kind of like

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messed things up for other people who came.

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Speaker 1: After us, I did, because they were like, we will

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never do those deals again because we've heard that we listen.

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We went back and forth with them and ultimately they

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wanted to own part of Orange County Choppers, right, and

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we told them, no, we've been around forever, you're not

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owning any of us, right, and then it would ended

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up happening as they came back and I remember the

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attorney's name. Her name was Lynn Sims Taylor. This is

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who were negotiating with back then. So finally she came

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back because they were dying to get the deal done

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because we could have went anywhere and the show was

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already popular, so we were not locked down yet, and

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so we negotiated a deal and she said, fine, the

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brand is American Chopper anyway, so you know, Orange County

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Choppers is just whatever, you can have it. We own

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American Chopper. That's the brand. That's what's going to sell.

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We said fine. Ultimately they had to come back to

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us and give us half of American Choppers licensing, and

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we had all of Orange County Choppers licensing because they

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needed to provide us to give that The namesake of

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the show didn't have the integrity that Orange County Choppers

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did at the time because we were wearing the shirts.

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It's like farm truck and agent, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 6: We were really didn't refer to that show as American Chopper.

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Speaker 1: Well occ right, like think about it, and it's because

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that's what we wore, that we were the We were

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like the We were the authentic scenario that people wanted,

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you know what I mean. We were like the real McCoy.

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Everything else American Chopper was okay, but everyone wanted the

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occ because that was like the team, you know, and

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so we you know, she was wrong about that, but

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who knew because there was really no precedent for that

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what we were, and we didn't know what we were. Frankly,

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it wasn't like we didn't set out to be this show.

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We were just us.

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Speaker 2: Matter of fact.

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Speaker 1: When I think back, because Jesse's show came out before ours,

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he had that Motorcycle Mania. It was like a like

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a special, and it might have come out, I don't know,

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six months, a year whatever.

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Speaker 2: We were building bikes.

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Speaker 1: I remember watching it and I remember coming in the

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next day and working on bikes. I said, man, who

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would ever want to watch us on television?

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Speaker 2: I said this.

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Speaker 1: Verbally to my father. This was a year before anyone

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called about the show. There was no aspirations. I say,

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this guy, man, he's got like sharks in a fish

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tank and these pit bulls are fighting, and he's got

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pay up sucker on his hand.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like it was like and I said

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to my father, I said, who would ever want to

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watch us on TV?

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Speaker 1: Like we got no chance. We weren't trying for it.

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I was just looking at this situation. And then sure enough, man,

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once the show hit, it.

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Speaker 2: Was I mean just.

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Speaker 6: It was.

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Speaker 3: Your show was a religion for gearheads. Yeah, everybody sitted

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in religiously.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we did great. Yeah that's great man. And you

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know it's funny. Now I'm fifty one. This is going

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back twenty twenty ish, twenty five years, right, and I

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get people coming in all the time, young people, even

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middle thirties, forties. Man, I'm doing what I'm doing today

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because of your show. We inspired people to work with

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your hands, be creative, be an engineer, be a welder,

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build stuff, not just bikes, but just build stuff, right, Like,

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exercise that creative gift and work with your hands, which

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is really something that is very I mean, it's just

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fallen by the wayside. The whole idea of being you know,

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we're doing something for a living has become man, almost

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taboo in a way. I think a lot of parents

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were like, I don't want my kid to work hard.

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Speaker 2: Will you kidding me? Like, let him learn a trade.

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Speaker 1: He could be a lawyer and still be able to

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sweat pipe or you know, work on a carburetor or whatever.

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especially in this day and age.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, it's easier than ever to act

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like you know how to do something right because we're

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given the education and the words, and we can visually

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see someone else doing it so we can explain it.

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We can almost lie to ourselves that we could do

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it without physically making the mistakes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So how did you guys start? Because here's

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the thing. Maybe you probably know a little bit more

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about my background, but like farm truck and Asian, how

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did like that?

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Speaker 2: How is this dynamic duo formed?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Oh, we you know, we started. It's like you you're building bikes.

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throwing parts at stuff that we don't know what we're doing.

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we're trying to Uh, he's out there racing with the

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junkie old pickup truck and I've.

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Speaker 5: Got my little Nova.

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Speaker 4: But we're we're out there cruising the loop, you know,

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the local route sixty six, and we become friends after

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just you know, hey, I like your car, like.

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Speaker 5: My you know, you like my car.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna hang out, we're gonna laugh and then and then.

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Speaker 5: Eventually we just do that. It's I tell people that

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it's like, just do.

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Speaker 4: Something long enough till someone notices, right or if they

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never noticed, at least you're doing something, well you have right.

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Speaker 5: So I think that we were just doing it.

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Speaker 4: Man, we were just wasting our money, being idiots, laughing

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at it. We were kind of the parody of what

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street racing was in my opinion, like we didn't take

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it too seriously, you know, like but we were just

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throwing money at at noise. And and eventually, like after

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what seventy years of just when every weekend street racing

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or going to a local.

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Speaker 5: Track, the show. I think they were they had like

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talent scouts.

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Speaker 4: I think they got scouts at like Discovery and like

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the studios, and they're they're trying to figure out what

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the next singing is, you know, and they're like, how

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about these Retindecks and Oklahoma doing this street thing on YouTube,

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and I think they just they throw darts at the

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wall man and they buy plane tickets and they come

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out and they shoot pilots and I think they you know,

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probably make a thousand pilots and to make a show.

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You know. So ours got thrown into that that lottery

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basket and they said, well, we can pay these idiots nothing.

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Speaker 2: And for free.

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Speaker 3: That's what happened. You know, that was a lot of us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so let me ask you a question then, because

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I'm I've you know, I've seen the show.

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Speaker 2: I've watched you guys, uh.

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Speaker 1: Not not this consistently enough to know like the backstory.

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So so when you guys came in, was the show new?

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Was it going and they were looking for more talent

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or were you there from the inception?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: What's how did that work out?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: It was a brand new show.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 6: The story that we got they were looking to do

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a show on street racing, so they started searching the

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internet and everywhere they went it pointed towards Oklahoma City

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because you know, we've got a lot of flat, straight

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roads around here and we're about out of beer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we were there from the inception, Yeah, we were there.

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It was, dude, it would have been better if we

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would have like the show, we would have came in later.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, people started getting paid, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Make make we had so we had to make the

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mistakes right.

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Speaker 4: So we paved the way with all the mistakes we've made, and.

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Speaker 5: Yeah we did. We didn't know what that. We were

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terrible on camera.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: That was the hardest thing to do, is sitting in

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front of a camera and give interviews.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was the interviews with the hard It was

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so difficult for us.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I gotta tell you to be honest with you.

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When I think back, and it's been so long now,

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but when I think back to like the first season

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of American Chopper, it was tough because I didn't have

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any I didn't have any and we had to do

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all these interviews, right because you know, you do all

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the pickups. I'm sure you guys did them too, right,

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Like they were getting into editing and yeah, yeah, they

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do them afterwards because you got to like kind of

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tell the story.

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Speaker 2: You're like filling in, right, So then they.

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Speaker 1: Come back to you and you're like, I don't even

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remember that, and they're like, well, what happened with this

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and that, and so now you got to like talk

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and be on camera and like kind of be articulate

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and tell the story. And it's a little on the

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spot and you're not used to it, so it takes

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a lot of getting used to. Now, you guys are

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probably SoundBite machines, right cause you get like, you get

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refined over time because you do.

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Speaker 2: They like beat it into.

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Speaker 1: You so much that all of a sudden you become like, okay,

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hey I could do this. Like then it just becames

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easy to throw the mic on and you're just like

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you're give them what they want because you don't want

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to be there all day, you know, So you get

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It's funny they kind of train you to be more

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articulate and refined and understand what they're looking for, right

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because you're telling a story via television in your own voice,

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in your own personality, right, so you learn what to be.

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Speaker 2: But in the beginning, I'm.

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Speaker 1: With you, man, it was like, oh god, it was

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like it was like torture.

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Speaker 2: It was like going back to school, you know. It

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was terrible, And.

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Speaker 1: Tell me in the moment, yeah say it all again, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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you remember.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they want you to bring back the emotion. You're like, yeah,

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I don't even care about that anymore, you know, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And then like it's funny, like the brain, how it

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puts it together, how you have to go you have

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to talk about the past in the present moment one

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month later, right, And then we all developed this strange

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cadence where all of us, I don't care who it.

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Speaker 5: Is, what reality show to the mack, this strange cadence trick.

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, I don't know how we're gonna start this project,

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but what we're gonna do is we're gonna go and

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put it together.

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Speaker 5: And I hope it turns out good.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: That applies, hey, and that applies to everything that you

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can put that in any damn episode, right, that works

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in every episode.

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Speaker 2: You're right, You're right, man, I don't.

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Speaker 5: But we all do it.

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Speaker 3: We can't.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's weird.

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Speaker 1: I think I think we kind of invented some of

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this stuff a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 2: Just think about it.

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Speaker 1: You guys watched those interviews years before you got on

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the show with us, and we did all the thing

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about it is like after the first few episodes, Mike

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Rowe narrated like the first two Pilots episodes, but when

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the series started, they just used us for with interviews

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to narrate our own show, which was smart because it

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was more personal. It's it's in first person, you know,

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all that stuff and uh and it really connected us

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with the audience.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so then that's it.

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Speaker 1: Man. Now I'm micro and I'm building bikes, you know,

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because that's that's kind of what it takes to make

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it work.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Now who was the producer for you guys? Was it?

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Was it Pilgrim? It was Pilgrim.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Craig Craig Craig Poligion found us back in

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the day. You probably didn't deal with Craig personally like

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we did probably times. Yeah, okay, so when when we

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first started working with Craig, he wasn't the mogul he

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is now because he's a beast now, but he was

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like it was a smaller operation. He had some success

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some shows, but our show was like the juggernaut, you know,

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And so we dealt.

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Speaker 2: With him every day and he was an interesting cat.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm saying there was no hr back then.

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I'll put it that way, you know, really interesting. So

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when did so how many seasons did you guys do?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It was weird because.

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Speaker 6: Well, they were supposed to give us like a two

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percent raise after after for every season, and we noticed

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in season two that we didn't get that raise, and

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they were like, oh, no, see if you look here,

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this is season one.

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Speaker 2: B oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the kind of stuff.

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Speaker 6: We didn't get that two percent, which was like thirty

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four dollars. But uh, and we went on I think

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it was uh what uh season one d or e yeah,

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before they said it was season two and we got that.

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Speaker 1: So so I'll apologize now because this is the kind

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of thing I'm talking about. Where are what our deal was,

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and then what everyone else got after that. This is

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all the kind of stuff that they were like, oh no,

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we're going to figure out how to not pay talent

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as much as possible.

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Speaker 2: And that's basically what you got.

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Speaker 1: Because these lawyers were smart, they already had been through

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some things, and this is they put these this bull

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owny type stuff in there for you guys. You're like, oh,

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the season two here we come, here comes the Rays and.

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Speaker 2: They're like, no, one B.

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Speaker 3: This is one B.

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Speaker 1: It's not funny, but this is what they do, man,

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and you know they they're running the show and you can't.

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It's weird because you're kind of at their mercy from

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that perspective, because you're like looking for the opportunity for

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whatever it's worth, and whatever you made or didn't make,

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you can see what it's afforded you. I always tell

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people that, you know, I've had guys call me and say, hey, man,

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you know, they're just into like three episodes, and I'm like, bro,

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make sure your show is even going to stay on

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the air before you start demanding all this money. I'm like,

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just ride it out, ride it out, and get there

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and see what it affords you. Because outside of television,

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there's a lot of opportunities if you can have the exposure.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can probably attest to that, right.

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Speaker 1: It's not just about the episode fees, it's the not

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yeah you get through.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, but we were on for I don't know what eleven, twelve,

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thirteen years, something like thirteen years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, geez, did you ever get paid?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Eventually eventually, Well we Thred's you know, you get whispered, right,

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You're when while you're filming. We've befriended the film crew, right, Like,

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we didn't have a few friends. We didn't know who

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to trust. So we thought, these are normal guys, they're contractors, they're.

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Speaker 5: Just doing it.

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Speaker 4: Even though what they look like they're doing is magic.

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We knew they were regular.

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Speaker 2: Guys and they're just grinding it out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: So we befriended them and the audio guys, and we

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started like asking questions and you know that they're not

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supposed to talk to us and all that stuff worth

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of wall stuff. But eventually they would like whisper in

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our ear. Well, we figured out how they got paid.

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We figured out their cameras have to roll, right, We're like,

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they're like, guys, are if our cameras don't roll and

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record something, we don't get paid. But if we record

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something a b roll something, we get paid for the

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whole day, right, And so we were like, ah, gotcha.

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So what we did is we we always made ourselves

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available if they had nothing to film. That way they

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got paid and so you know, we helped each other out,

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so we kind of got their good graces. But then

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they they started helping us, you know, on when the

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cameras were off and said, hey, get agents. Hey, you know,

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start talking to an agent. So that was probably about

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the third season. Yeah, ish, you know, third season, but

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they were like, hey, start talking to an agent.

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Speaker 5: We're like, what does that mean?

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Speaker 4: Though, we can't say anything else, just get an agent, right,

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And so at that point, once we got an agent,

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the ball started rolling.

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00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 5: We went broke. Don't get me wrong, We went broke in.

476
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 4: The beginning and went in debt and all that stuff thinking,

477
00:21:34,319 --> 00:21:36,640
you know, not you know, not knowing what how long

478
00:21:36,759 --> 00:21:37,440
is it going to last?

479
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 6: But the thing about Street Outlaws is there were so

480
00:21:39,519 --> 00:21:40,599
many cast members.

481
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

482
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, the pie they were thin slices.

483
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:50,079
Speaker 6: Yeah, but we're still grateful because it's we stood on

484
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:50,839
a springboard.

485
00:21:51,279 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're going places because of it.

486
00:21:53,799 --> 00:21:56,519
Speaker 1: So yeah, And I would say, from my perspective, you

487
00:21:56,599 --> 00:22:01,359
guys are the most stand out duo of of all

488
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,240
the Street Outlaws, I would say, I mean, I know

489
00:22:03,279 --> 00:22:05,680
there's some other names in there, but not like not

490
00:22:05,759 --> 00:22:08,799
quite like you guys, notoriety wise. That would be my

491
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,160
opinion of it from a not watching every single episode perspective,

492
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,279
do you know what I mean? Like, I just think

493
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,720
that to me that you guys stand out. Plus your

494
00:22:17,759 --> 00:22:20,480
dynamic is unique. No one else really has that kind

495
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,279
of ying and yang. You play off each other good.

496
00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:26,680
You're like Paul Senior and Paul Junior without without the

497
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,799
blowout fights, you know what I mean pretty much. But yeah, no,

498
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,079
it's it's it's interesting too because agents. So we had

499
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,720
an agent early on first couple seasons, and they did

500
00:22:38,759 --> 00:22:41,000
pretty good for us, and then eventually we just punted

501
00:22:41,079 --> 00:22:44,319
them because they we just had so much coming in.

502
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,960
We were in a totally different situation than that, so

503
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,079
we didn't really need that.

504
00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:49,039
Speaker 2: So they helped you.

505
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,319
Speaker 1: The agents were productive, They helped you get more money.

506
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,799
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say they were productive, but they knew what

507
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,799
other cast members were being paid from other shows they

508
00:22:58,799 --> 00:23:01,640
had dealt with. They had a relate Pilgrim and Discovery.

509
00:23:01,759 --> 00:23:03,880
They were a pretty big agency at the time, and

510
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,599
we lucked out with them, so they knew our value

511
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,519
before we did financially, right.

512
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

513
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 4: And then so that was able to at least allow

514
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,960
us to quit our day jobs literally and film full

515
00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:19,160
time without.

516
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 5: Worrying, right, because that was our main So I was like,

517
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,480
can we do this for a living? Whatever that number

518
00:23:24,599 --> 00:23:25,759
needs to be just right.

519
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: So when you got the agent, how many fold were

520
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,640
you able to get paid? I don't need to know numbers,

521
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,279
but like tenfold did they get you twenty fold?

522
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 2: What you were?

523
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 4: Okay, so it doubled whatever it started, it would double

524
00:23:37,839 --> 00:23:42,480
every time, right, and so it was it's just from

525
00:23:42,519 --> 00:23:44,839
there they would try to double it every every every

526
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,720
new contract, they would try to double it with stipulations,

527
00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:51,519
with sign on bonuses. And now I don't know if

528
00:23:51,559 --> 00:23:53,640
they did the same with you guys and the bikes.

529
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,799
They would give you a bike build stip. So with

530
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,240
our cars, they would provide us a stip that allowed.

531
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,319
Speaker 1: Us, right they were like, here's twenty grand for the project,

532
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:09,519
or Tenny, here's five bucks. Yeah yeah, right, yeah, No,

533
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,680
we didn't have that because what we did, which is interesting,

534
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,039
is we went and got the builds right. So, and

535
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,160
because I theme build like you can see the Yankees

536
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,880
bike back here, we built for Pisada years ago, we

537
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,759
were able to storytell through these builds, right, and so

538
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,000
every episode, as you saw, whether it was for Microsoft

539
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,240
or Cadillac, Mercedes AMG or any brand you could think of,

540
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,519
we would build the bike and tell the story of

541
00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:37,240
that brand.

542
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 2: So they were just they would we would do a

543
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,119
deal with the.

544
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: With the companies and they would pay us for the bike,

545
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,880
and they would pay us handsomely. And then a separate

546
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,079
deal entirely was with Discovery, which was for the content.

547
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,519
And then a Discovery would have to approve the clients.

548
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,599
And if the client was like a national ad sales

549
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,240
buyer like a Cadillac or Microsoft, after like Geico, they

550
00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:04,480
would have to come in and then not only do

551
00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:07,599
a deal with us. Right like Geico, they did a

552
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,480
deal with me for I did two bikes for them, Well,

553
00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:12,240
they would do that deal with me.

554
00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 2: I would clear it with Discovery. Then ad sales would

555
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,400
take over.

556
00:25:16,319 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: And talk to them, and then they'd have to spend

557
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:23,599
an additional I don't know million dollars across Discovery's brands,

558
00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:26,960
the different channels, even like TLC and all the other

559
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,920
So they would have to do a big ad sales

560
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,359
buy in order to be an episode of the show.

561
00:25:31,799 --> 00:25:34,519
If they were not a national ad sales buyer, then

562
00:25:34,519 --> 00:25:36,440
they would be exempt and they would do the deal

563
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,720
in Discovery would say thumbs up, you can make it

564
00:25:38,759 --> 00:25:42,839
for this brand that is not advertising nationally, and we

565
00:25:42,839 --> 00:25:46,240
were making content so that's how it worked for all

566
00:25:46,279 --> 00:25:47,960
the years of the show, so it was a little

567
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:48,880
bit different, you know.

568
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, they ended that on our show.

569
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 4: They were like no, no, was a hearty blurred everything

570
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,319
out they could. They were gaff taping any logo whatsoever.

571
00:25:58,599 --> 00:26:07,200
There was absolutely z Eero integration of sponsorship interest was transactional.

572
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,880
Nothing transacted. We could get three car parts if need be,

573
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,359
but even wearing their logos on the shirt, on our

574
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,440
shirts and hats, that was a big So that's when

575
00:26:17,519 --> 00:26:20,839
we knew it was time to switch gears and create,

576
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,559
you know, get our own brand going that way. If

577
00:26:23,559 --> 00:26:25,440
we could sell that brand, well, that's going to buy

578
00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:28,559
us the car parts, right because if sponsors don't want

579
00:26:28,599 --> 00:26:30,960
to give and they're not going to give the sponsors

580
00:26:31,079 --> 00:26:34,599
the love the reciprocation, then we were like, well then

581
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,359
we just need to buy it ourselves, and the only

582
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:36,599
way to.

583
00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:39,799
Speaker 5: Do that is t shirts, right, So we kind of

584
00:26:39,839 --> 00:26:40,480
switch gears.

585
00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:43,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. You gotta get you got to get

586
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,000
creative with this stuff. You know, when we first started,

587
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,559
we were able to They were a little weird about that,

588
00:26:48,599 --> 00:26:49,359
but we were able to.

589
00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:51,279
Speaker 2: Get like so much equipment.

590
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: Man, that was ridiculous water jets, and like every we

591
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,880
were able to really grow and make a better product

592
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,079
because we grew from a techno logical standpoint.

593
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,519
Speaker 2: We had got se and C machine.

594
00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:04,279
Speaker 1: We started out just had the We would go up

595
00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:07,400
to the steel shop and use the sheer and used

596
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,279
all the basic cutting wheel grinder.

597
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 2: It worked. I mean I built a black widow. Well, yeah,

598
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,119
it was cool.

599
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: It was cool because we were just using like the

600
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,680
tools that we had, you know. But and I built

601
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,119
a black widow like that with a little roller cheap

602
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,680
oh you know, out of like, uh what's it called.

603
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: What's that cheap place you go to get all the

604
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,000
like cheap o't tools.

605
00:27:29,319 --> 00:27:32,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, Harbor Freight. I was like this little Harbor Freight roller.

606
00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:34,440
It was this big, but I rolled all the webbing

607
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,640
for the black Widow on it. It worked perfect, you know,

608
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,920
So you like you use that kind of ingenuity because

609
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,000
that's what you have now. I had a lot more

610
00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:44,160
than most people because we had a steel business, but

611
00:27:44,279 --> 00:27:47,319
it was most mostly welders, torches and cutting wheels.

612
00:27:47,519 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 6: Uh.

613
00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: But then as things progressed, we added the water jet,

614
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,440
which was.

615
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: A game changer.

616
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 6: Man.

617
00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: It just time saver, reverse engineering stuff to make a

618
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,240
plate and it just you know, well you do that

619
00:27:59,319 --> 00:28:01,880
by hand all day on the water jet.

620
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: It's ten minutes.

621
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: So that had been to me, that tool, right there

622
00:28:05,839 --> 00:28:06,960
was the best tool.

623
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,079
Speaker 2: It lasted.

624
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: It was the thing that made everything possible from a

625
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,559
time frame standpoint. For all those years, everything patterns, anything

626
00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:17,839
you needed cut out, we would cut it out.

627
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: And it was just so much faster.

628
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,319
Speaker 5: And maybe at some point you guys were done, you know, maybe.

629
00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 3: You were a little burnt.

630
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,839
Speaker 4: There might have been some some season where you guys

631
00:28:25,839 --> 00:28:28,039
are like, let's just get this done. Let's knock these out,

632
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,599
let's get a check for the episode. It's not going

633
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,359
to be great. It's like writing when the when the

634
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,000
music agency wants you to write a new album and

635
00:28:35,039 --> 00:28:36,799
you're burnt, and you're just gonna write a bunch of

636
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,039
you know, tomato songs.

637
00:28:38,359 --> 00:28:38,559
Speaker 5: You know.

638
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 4: So maybe there's a certain point where you're like, you

639
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,880
know what, I want to focus on certain other things,

640
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,039
building the business. We need to make these episodes. They're important,

641
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,640
they're you know, a forty minute commercial for us. But

642
00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:52,519
you guys were done working hard and busting knuckles. At

643
00:28:52,519 --> 00:28:56,440
a certain point. Was I have a question, was there

644
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,599
ever a bike that you wanted to fail. Was there

645
00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:02,519
ever a build that you were like, I hope this fails.

646
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,759
Speaker 1: No never, no, no, no, no no. Because for me,

647
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:12,839
like from a design standpoint, my identity was a little

648
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:14,960
tied up in each one of those things, you know,

649
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,519
And so I couldn't that would be me want me

650
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,559
to fail, And I couldn't see that now back in

651
00:29:20,599 --> 00:29:24,240
the day when it was bigger, back in the occ days,

652
00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:27,240
maybe like the first few seasons like that was a

653
00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:30,279
little different, and then it got big. Like you talk

654
00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:33,039
about Street out Laws, we had like thirty people in

655
00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:37,000
our shop, you know, and we probably had like twenty characters.

656
00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:39,079
Now I know Street out Laws was even bigger than that,

657
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,680
but for being in the same building, it was a

658
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,640
lot of people and a lot of moving parts. And

659
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,000
then we were building a lot of bikes, and so

660
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,000
just the on air bikes is the ones I was

661
00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:50,480
focused on because they needed me on camera doing the

662
00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:55,519
design work. But really, when the first few seasons were big,

663
00:29:55,559 --> 00:29:57,880
and then when I went on my own, I was

664
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,160
able to be my own guy and do my own

665
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,519
designs and I don't do drawings or anything like that.

666
00:30:02,599 --> 00:30:03,799
Speaker 2: I was just able to do it.

667
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: The way I do it in my head with my team,

668
00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:09,200
and that's some of my best work, I think, other

669
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:12,799
than the first season of American Chopper, the Senior versus

670
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,640
Junior years where I was Paul Junior Design started building motorcycles.

671
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,440
That's some of the best stuff that I've ever been

672
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,599
involved with. And that stuff was ultra personal, you know.

673
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,559
I mean it was because then it was like there

674
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,480
was my former company OCC that I was invested in.

675
00:30:29,519 --> 00:30:32,640
It never planned on going anywhere from I just figured

676
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,920
I'd be there my whole life. But when me and

677
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,839
my father parted ways, which I would put that nicely,

678
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,319
we parted ways, then I had to be my own guy.

679
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,640
So I went on my own and then created my

680
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,319
own thing, but it was in the shadow of my

681
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,319
previous company because I was partners with my father and that,

682
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,759
you know. So then it was even more to prove

683
00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:55,000
because here I am up against in the same show.

684
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,440
It was OCC and PJAD both building bikes in the

685
00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:02,000
same episodes, and so here we have like this ying

686
00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:04,960
and yang. So I was even more motivated, and it

687
00:31:05,079 --> 00:31:07,200
was even harder because I had to like come out

688
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,039
from under the shadow of what I created mostly you know,

689
00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:14,240
and that it is strange. Even the logo I designed,

690
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,920
the OCC logo. I had never drawn anything. That was

691
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,200
the first and only thing I ever drew that was anything,

692
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:23,359
to be honest with you, And when we came up,

693
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,559
my father did the name. I didn't like the name

694
00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:28,640
Orange County Choppers because we had Orange County Iron Works

695
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,960
as a steel business, and I thought it was uninteresting.

696
00:31:31,359 --> 00:31:34,240
But then the letters lent itself to me doing the logo,

697
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,240
you know, So I guess the point is when when

698
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:40,319
I started my own, got came into my own and

699
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,759
was building bikes, it was like I was up against

700
00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:45,279
a giant in a sense, and I got you know

701
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:49,319
what I mean. But at the same time, the creative

702
00:31:50,079 --> 00:31:53,440
in the design aspect of what everyone loved from OCC

703
00:31:54,119 --> 00:31:56,720
came with me because I was the catalyst. I was

704
00:31:56,759 --> 00:32:01,000
the driving force of design and creativity on the OCC side,

705
00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:03,640
all that that you liked when you saw the me

706
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,400
build the Black Widow, that that aspect of how things

707
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,200
were done came with me because they couldn't go anywhere else.

708
00:32:10,279 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: You know, I got you.

709
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 4: You were always trying to fill some shoes that you

710
00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:16,960
were creating in your mind.

711
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: I think I think so, or you know, first of all,

712
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,240
I always pushed myself right. I was always very I

713
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:26,480
always wanted to try harder, do bigger and harder things,

714
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:30,640
design better than the last time, even if that's not possible,

715
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,359
you know, and push my team just as hard, push

716
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,200
third skill sets, because you know, you're only as good

717
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,200
as your team. And I've had a fantastic team through

718
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,440
the years, and so I have the ideas. So I'm like,

719
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,559
I'm towing the line, but I'm asking these guys are

720
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:48,920
in here for a reason because I respect their skill set,

721
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,279
I respect their opinion, what they have to say about things.

722
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:55,240
I wasn't like the designer who's like, oh no, no,

723
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:57,119
I'm the best, stay away from me.

724
00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:57,319
Speaker 6: No.

725
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,279
Speaker 1: I was like, let's get together, let's make this thing killer.

726
00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:02,079
And when my sheet metal guy goes, what if we

727
00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:03,839
do this, I say, no, I don't think so.

728
00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: Or I say, I think that's a great idea. See,

729
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,400
because you're letting you you have.

730
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,519
Speaker 1: They're there to make me better and to make them

731
00:33:11,559 --> 00:33:13,200
better as a team, and we killed it.

732
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:13,519
Speaker 3: Man.

733
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,839
Speaker 1: So when I started Paul Junior Designs and the motorcycle

734
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,519
aspect of it and put that team together, boy, we

735
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:20,680
were a tight crew.

736
00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:21,279
Speaker 2: Man tight.

737
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,799
Speaker 1: Even today, if I assemble that team, we could go

738
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,960
up against anybody on the planet and we only need

739
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,119
a small handful of us. You can have as many

740
00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:31,599
people as you want. And it was that kind of

741
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:34,480
We had that kind of synergy and that kind of

742
00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:38,160
creative ability and engineering too, because you know, this stuff

743
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,640
has to work. It can't just look good. It also

744
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:42,759
has to go down the road and be functional.

745
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 4: You know, do you think that when you were doing

746
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:51,319
the show and you were getting better at things, the

747
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,920
content that you guys were creating, how important was the

748
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,240
success of the show that you know, this goes for

749
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,839
ours as well. How important do you think the car actually?

750
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,640
Was the bikes, the color, the build, the drama, or

751
00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:06,920
was it actually that you guys were good at telling

752
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,000
the story or good at at least following a story

753
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,079
arc from beginning to end. What do you think was

754
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:15,800
the most important piece that drew people to the show

755
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,519
to keep them interested. Was it you guys evolving as

756
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,480
archetypes or was it the actual motorcycles?

757
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,199
Speaker 1: I think in the beginning it was just our rawness.

758
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,119
You know, the motorcycles were the reason for you to

759
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:34,320
watch us, right, But in watching us, what we already

760
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,000
were before the cameras came.

761
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 2: Was what was great television? Does that make sense?

762
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: We were already that before the cameras were there, So

763
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,679
when they showed up, we were just us. Matter of fact,

764
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,480
the first episode, we really didn't think any of it was.

765
00:34:48,559 --> 00:34:50,519
We thought it was going to be polished. We thought

766
00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:53,840
they would never use our arguments or the back and forth.

767
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:56,760
We really didn't think that because there was no precedent

768
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,559
for that type of television. Now that's all they now,

769
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:01,920
they want more of that than they could do with

770
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:05,360
But if you look at even like if you even

771
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,239
look at like Housewives, they're fighting over nothing and people

772
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,480
love it. They're fighting over nothing. We were fighting over

773
00:35:11,679 --> 00:35:14,280
like a build for a big client and there's a

774
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,920
carburetor missing, and like the tank's not there, and.

775
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: The bike falls off the lift.

776
00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:21,559
Speaker 1: All these things happened in real life and real time,

777
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,280
and the cameras were there to capture it all. And

778
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,440
this is what people loved about it. It translated. We

779
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,639
weren't actors. We never aspired for any of that. We

780
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:32,840
were just Joe Schmo's and I mean real Schmoey, you know,

781
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,920
and we were rough around the edges.

782
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:36,639
Speaker 2: We really were.

783
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: We were unpolished, We didn't know how to be otherwise.

784
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,000
And I feel like it resonated with the world in

785
00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:45,760
a sense, right because they were like, that's just like

786
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,719
me or my father or my mother, or the relatability,

787
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:55,599
the family. Dynamic relatability, I think was the catalyst. Certainly

788
00:35:55,679 --> 00:35:58,840
the fact that the way my father looked and acted

789
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:02,400
was big and I was like, he was this guy

790
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,119
and I was this guy, and like Paul Junior and

791
00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:08,960
Paul Senior made a pretty magical situation. Without knowing it

792
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,719
and without trying, right, we were just this is who

793
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,440
we were. And then in the end we had this

794
00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:18,559
amazing motorcycle to show for. It wasn't all for nothing,

795
00:36:18,639 --> 00:36:19,440
you see what I mean?

796
00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:20,159
Speaker 2: Like we were.

797
00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:23,119
Speaker 1: It was hard, we fought, we cried, we laughed, but

798
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:25,679
it was all for something. And I think people love

799
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,599
that in the end, right, And then the episode would end,

800
00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:30,800
and you didn't want it to end, right. People just

801
00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:34,039
was like it's over already. That Every episode we did

802
00:36:34,519 --> 00:36:38,159
was pretty much like that. I think over time, things

803
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,880
dynamic changes. Success sets in success has a way of

804
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:47,199
making everybody handles success differently. In the beginning, it was

805
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,280
just well raw and us and trying, and we're like,

806
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,480
here's our opportunity, let's just go and do it. And

807
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,480
then over time, you know, the success sets in and

808
00:36:56,599 --> 00:36:59,719
people come and go out of your lives. Right, Different

809
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,960
people come into the company go out of the company.

810
00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:05,079
So I think that changes the dynamic a little bit.

811
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,800
But overall, I would say the combination of like American

812
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,800
ingenuity and building these really cool things and family dynamic,

813
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,360
I think that was the big I think that was

814
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,519
the big powerhouse and it really created staying power. And

815
00:37:21,559 --> 00:37:24,800
even when I look at the audience now out there,

816
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,519
our fan base is so loyal because they grew up

817
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:30,719
with us. It wasn't like you know what I mean,

818
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,039
It wasn't like two seasons or they literally grew up

819
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:36,519
with me. I look at these first episodes and I

820
00:37:36,639 --> 00:37:40,039
was a young, round faced, twenty something year old kid,

821
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:42,920
you know, and this is whatever room remembers. Now they

822
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:45,760
have Now these people that were my age at the time,

823
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,519
they have five kids, and they're successful in their career

824
00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:51,599
and they're moving on in life, but they remember these

825
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,719
these years of American Chopper.

826
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: You know, I gotcha.

827
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it's interesting to see just the progression and

828
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:02,079
in the question mark above it all of what makes

829
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:02,920
it all successful.

830
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 5: But I think that's a good explanation.

831
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all I could come up with anyway. So

832
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,199
what are you guys up to now? Like, what's what's new? Where?

833
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:13,519
Speaker 5: You know?

834
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: Where are you at now?

835
00:38:14,519 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 1: I saw something with this this airstream sticking out of

836
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,719
a building somewhere or something like that.

837
00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:25,119
Speaker 6: We're working on a museum on Route sixty six right

838
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:29,119
here in Bethany, Oklahoma, which is pretty much Oklahoma City, Okay.

839
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 3: And we're going to have all of our builds in there.

840
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 6: It'll be a place where people can stop and they

841
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,239
can see all of our stuff.

842
00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

843
00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 4: You know, at a certain point, if you know you're

844
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,079
making content, you're doing YouTube. We're doing the same thing

845
00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:52,079
we're staying present with with just being relevant. And at

846
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:54,800
a certain point, you know, you need you need a

847
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,559
brick and mortar, you need you know, people need to physically.

848
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,599
Speaker 5: Be able to say that you exist.

849
00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:04,159
Speaker 4: And if they have any you know, vested interest in

850
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:07,400
your journey, they want to vote for you, you know, they

851
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,519
want to come by and put their name in the ballot.

852
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:11,280
They want to be able to say I was here,

853
00:39:11,679 --> 00:39:13,920
you know, I was able to touch the bricks, you know,

854
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,119
And so I think for the for many of the

855
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:19,880
reasons why you guys saw the potentiality of oh the

856
00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:22,400
you know, you guys were building that giant. You guys

857
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,599
had a freaking twenty thousand square feet lined with see

858
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:26,599
and C machines.

859
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 2: You know, it.

860
00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 4: Was you guys saw what it could become and you

861
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,920
were developing that. Whereas you know, we know that we

862
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,719
were a slice of the pie of the show.

863
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: We weren't the whole show.

864
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 4: We're not Richard Rawlings, one guy with right right, So

865
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:45,639
we have to kind of carve our own physical embodiment

866
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,880
of what we thought we saw. And so we're going

867
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,000
to try to bring that to our small town and

868
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,000
maybe do like local car shows dragon drives.

869
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 5: But it's kind of our bat cave. It's our ability

870
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:57,599
to say, hey.

871
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 4: We're open to the polk. Now you can see what

872
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,039
we did. You know, all bets are off, come by

873
00:40:02,159 --> 00:40:04,199
check it out. So that's our opportunity.

874
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. Route sixty six is one hundred years old this year,

875
00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:12,920
and we know that a lot of world travelers come.

876
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,079
They rent bikes, sure, they try to get.

877
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,119
Speaker 6: Classic cars, and they cruise from Chicago to La or

878
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,400
La to Chicago, and they'll be driving fifty feet past

879
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,519
our front door. So we welcome all those people to

880
00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:30,840
stop in and see the dung beetle and the farm

881
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,159
truck and occasionally we might even be there.

882
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: Where. So are you guys open yet to the public

883
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:39,480
or not yet?

884
00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:41,639
Speaker 3: No, it'll be March first.

885
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:43,639
Speaker 2: Okay, March first of this year.

886
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:47,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what's We have our firehouse that we filmed

887
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:47,960
out of.

888
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,079
Speaker 4: It's still open, but man, it's so small and it's

889
00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:54,840
no parking, and you know how it is. I'm sure

890
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,639
your situation is in a place where it's like I

891
00:40:57,639 --> 00:40:59,159
wish I had a bigger park a lotta.

892
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 6: It's one block off to Route sixty six, but a

893
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:03,639
lot of people can't find it.

894
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so what's the address?

895
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 6: Oh well, this is gonna seventy eight to twenty four

896
00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:14,079
northwest thirty ninth Expressway, Bethany, Oklahoma.

897
00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: That's right on Route sixty six.

898
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 7: He can already put it on the internet and people

899
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,480
are stopping by, but I'm like the only one working

900
00:41:26,519 --> 00:41:28,719
on it. My friends stopped by on the weekends and

901
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:33,119
they help me, and uh, anyway, I don't mind them

902
00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:35,519
stopping by, but if I'm going to make that March one.

903
00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to stop talking your ear off.

904
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 3: That's right.

905
00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:43,199
Speaker 6: That's right after March one, and you'll be able to

906
00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:46,360
see something more than a guy in there working by himself.

907
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:46,679
Speaker 5: Yeah.

908
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,639
Speaker 2: So, how many square feet is that place?

909
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 3: It's four thousand.

910
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 2: It's nice. That's good, it's good.

911
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:52,639
Speaker 6: Yeah.

912
00:41:52,639 --> 00:41:54,559
Speaker 3: It used to be a mechanic shop and we're just

913
00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:55,760
getting by with what we got.

914
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, honestly do what you know.

915
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,599
Speaker 1: Look as long as you got your your or the

916
00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:03,400
things that you built in there, right, and a little

917
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,119
bit of something or other some merchandise. I mean, that's

918
00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:08,840
a great stopover off of Route sixty six, I think.

919
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,639
I mean, I don't know what else is out that way,

920
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,960
but uh, I think a lot of people would love

921
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,480
to come in there and check it out. It's a

922
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:17,440
perfect fit for that type of thought process.

923
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 2: If you're on a bike or on Route sixty six,

924
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,400
it's just one.

925
00:42:23,159 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 3: Sucks from Chicago to LA we're right in the middle.

926
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:30,639
Stop in and see we got but their BUCkies? Yeah

927
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:31,199
there is.

928
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,079
Speaker 2: You got a bucket? Yeah yeah, yeah. BUCkies is a

929
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:35,199
hard one to compete with.

930
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: By the way, Uh so are you guys going to

931
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,199
do any kind of like advertising out there or billboards

932
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,000
or anything off of Roots. Is that is that a

933
00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:45,119
doable scenario or can you get it?

934
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:48,159
Speaker 4: I think, you know, in the beginning, we're just going

935
00:42:48,159 --> 00:42:51,119
to be able to see how well the online attention

936
00:42:51,199 --> 00:42:51,440
can be.

937
00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 5: We've got multiple different.

938
00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 4: Sign posts that already permitted in there are locations where

939
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,239
we could do digital billboards because I don't you know,

940
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,440
the ones that sit up.

941
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 5: There and fade in color for a while.

942
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,039
Speaker 4: You know, he's like, oh yeash, you know those are

943
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:07,199
disgusting and they cost fifteen hundred a month.

944
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,079
Speaker 5: It's just you know, it doesn't seem like you're throwing

945
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:09,800
money into the air.

946
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 4: But the digital ones you can flash, and so there's

947
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,119
many opportunities to let people know where we're at, out

948
00:43:16,199 --> 00:43:17,599
of town ors things of that nature.

949
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 5: But literally, if they cruise rout sixty six, there's nothing

950
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:20,880
out here.

951
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 4: I mean it's sad, really, I mean, this is an

952
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,760
authentic piece of Roots six six, not just the you know,

953
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,480
a slideover, and it's they won't be able to miss us.

954
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:33,519
Speaker 6: But yeah, well, after I get all my junk out there,

955
00:43:33,559 --> 00:43:37,400
it's gonna look like maybe it's Salvagar that a.

956
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,679
Speaker 3: Bomb hit, because that'll be all kinds of stuff out there.

957
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,679
Speaker 6: But there's all kinds of other places to stop at

958
00:43:44,679 --> 00:43:45,760
on Route sixty six.

959
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 8: Tulsa's got a lot going on, and uh, there's a

960
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,360
lot of small museums and but interesting enough, Oklahoma has

961
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,719
more miles of Route sixty six than any other state,

962
00:43:58,119 --> 00:44:01,280
and it also has more original road.

963
00:44:01,159 --> 00:44:02,079
Speaker 3: Than any other state.

964
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,679
Speaker 2: Really, so you can you.

965
00:44:03,639 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 6: Can actually drive on the original nineteen twenty six concrete.

966
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,599
Speaker 2: Really. Wow, that's kind of cool.

967
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: So what is the name of your place out there?

968
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,119
What's you calling it something? Is there a namesake?

969
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:15,119
Speaker 5: You know what?

970
00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 4: It's so difficult to name because it's like it's you

971
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:18,800
got to tell them what it is, Like.

972
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,039
Speaker 5: It's a museum. Okay, it's like, well, whose museum is it?

973
00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:21,519
Speaker 3: Well, damn it.

974
00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 5: There's two guys involved in the business. It's farm truck

975
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,360
and Asian. And then it's like, well, you got to

976
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,480
kind of tell what it is, you know.

977
00:44:27,519 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 4: So it's like farm truck and Asians, Route sixty six museum, right,

978
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,400
So it's uh, yeah, we're.

979
00:44:33,199 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 3: Trying to make the name longer.

980
00:44:36,119 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's only five sentences. Oh well, listen, you

981
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,719
definitely got to use your namesakes in it, because you'd

982
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,320
be hurting yourself if you if you didn't, you know, I.

983
00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:53,199
Speaker 2: Mean, it could just I don't know. Yeah, you got

984
00:44:53,199 --> 00:44:55,760
to keep it short. You're right, it was going to

985
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:56,679
be it was going to.

986
00:44:56,679 --> 00:44:58,599
Speaker 5: Be farm truck and Asians garage.

987
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:04,119
Speaker 4: But if you take that act, it doesn't.

988
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: Work out, gotcha. Yeah, yeah, let's not use that.

989
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 5: We got the first order shirt thing, got it.

990
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: We're only using the acronym. Well, listen, I think it's great.

991
00:45:18,519 --> 00:45:21,440
Uh yeah, I would do that farm truck and Asians

992
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,840
Route sixty six.

993
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:23,519
Speaker 2: I like that.

994
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 6: Man.

995
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:26,599
Speaker 2: The Root sixty six thing is so Americana.

996
00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:30,119
Speaker 1: I mean, I collect all this early transportation in Americana

997
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:33,480
and it all it's all Root sixty six ish, you know.

998
00:45:33,559 --> 00:45:36,360
It just screams of one hundred years of America in

999
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,239
the open road.

1000
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 2: So I think you got a good thing going there.

1001
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,480
I'll come see.

1002
00:45:40,519 --> 00:45:40,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1003
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 2: I'd love to come out that way and visit, you know.

1004
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, ring a bike.

1005
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that's what we got to do. We should.

1006
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,639
Speaker 3: We should just get that mopeds out.

1007
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:50,079
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1008
00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:54,599
Speaker 2: How many mile stretches that through Oklahoma? There? Do you

1009
00:45:54,639 --> 00:45:56,639
know how many miles of Route sixty six.

1010
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,559
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you is three hundred.

1011
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, I'll do.

1012
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,039
Speaker 1: Like ten of those miles, you know, especially on the

1013
00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:12,400
original right, we'll knock the kidneys off of you.

1014
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 4: Yeah cool, all right, well man, yeah, you're definitely invited out.

1015
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,039
Speaker 5: I know it's a stretch and you're you're a busy guy,

1016
00:46:19,079 --> 00:46:19,920
but it be be.

1017
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,079
Speaker 2: Awesome to happen, do you guys? So is that your

1018
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:24,599
grand opening date for it? Is that March date?

1019
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,679
Speaker 5: Grand openings always happened a little yeah.

1020
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:30,199
Speaker 2: Like in the fall, like in the fall maybe or something.

1021
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,639
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, well, after you got it all kind of

1022
00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:35,400
polished up and fine tuned, Yeah.

1023
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 6: We want to get our sign up and that's going

1024
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,519
to be complicated probably it's.

1025
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 3: Going to take three or four months to build all

1026
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,519
that going to be a horse.

1027
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 5: With a neon around it.

1028
00:46:44,039 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, just borrow this one.

1029
00:46:49,519 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: I got to ship this out.

1030
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 3: Fancy what we got.

1031
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: Will they let you put a sign up on the road, like,

1032
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,039
but like, are you down the street? Is that where

1033
00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:02,840
you're you're like a block off of six.

1034
00:47:03,079 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 6: We did put a sign up, and they'll let you

1035
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:09,519
keep a sign if you pull a permit, which.

1036
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 3: We did not do. And we were reprimanded.

1037
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,559
Speaker 6: I don't know within what two or three hours of

1038
00:47:17,679 --> 00:47:18,800
us getting up.

1039
00:47:20,519 --> 00:47:22,599
Speaker 3: Anyway, we haven't had a sign in a while.

1040
00:47:23,039 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 2: Did they make it take it down?

1041
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah, you can't do that.

1042
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,159
Speaker 3: Guys street outlaws.

1043
00:47:31,159 --> 00:47:33,039
Speaker 2: What do you do exactly?

1044
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1045
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,079
Speaker 2: Ticket? Do they like you guys out there? Are they friendly?

1046
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,159
Speaker 3: They do?

1047
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: They love what you've done for kind of like the

1048
00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:45,719
area or you know, you represent them.

1049
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 4: They did it first, right like they? Oh no, because

1050
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,079
of the outlaw name. Really one thing I could probably

1051
00:47:53,199 --> 00:47:55,079
change if we were to go back where it's like,

1052
00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:56,800
it's renegotiate that name.

1053
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:58,599
Speaker 5: I mean, I get it.

1054
00:47:58,599 --> 00:48:00,679
Speaker 2: It worked, it did, but did it hurt you a

1055
00:48:00,679 --> 00:48:01,119
little bit?

1056
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 5: It hurt it.

1057
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,079
Speaker 6: It hurted a lot and a lot of people didn't

1058
00:48:04,119 --> 00:48:08,480
want to be involved because of street racing and the

1059
00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:09,199
outlaw name.

1060
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 5: That's right.

1061
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,039
Speaker 1: Have you found that to be difficult even with sponsorships

1062
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:15,840
after the fact or yeah? Yeah.

1063
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 4: Corporate corporate dollars never touched it ever, There was never

1064
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,159
a corporate check written. They just didn't want to be

1065
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:26,960
involved in it whatsoever. And still to this day they

1066
00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:29,400
they are grateful to hear that we are no longer

1067
00:48:29,519 --> 00:48:32,239
using the outlaw name. In fact, and we've actually you know,

1068
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,880
partnered up with a few more companies because of that.

1069
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,679
Speaker 5: You know, some of the.

1070
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 4: Organizations in hr A wanted nothing to do with any

1071
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,800
of the guys, and now they're you know, opening the

1072
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,280
doors up again. And it's like, so, yeah, that outlaw name,

1073
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,840
it definitely it. It got us here, but it didn't

1074
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,280
help any of the guys careers financially.

1075
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a little sensational, that's right. Yeah, I could.

1076
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:56,679
I could see that.

1077
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:01,599
Speaker 1: You know, coming from the background of Leverage my brand

1078
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,440
for stuff like that and having pretty pretty great success

1079
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,679
through the years, I know how sensitive these brands are,

1080
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,320
so they get weird about little things, never mind street

1081
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,880
racing and the word outlaw. You know, it's like, well,

1082
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,400
we can't we We love you guys, but you know,

1083
00:49:18,639 --> 00:49:22,360
we can't sponsor you because it would be irresponsible from.

1084
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: A marketing standpoint. You know.

1085
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,639
Speaker 1: But now you're kind of distanced from there. But and

1086
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,360
your celebrity is still you still have the same notoriety.

1087
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,519
It's just not associated directly with that show anymore. So

1088
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:35,679
that's good, right, that's correct.

1089
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.

1090
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,639
Speaker 4: And you know, I mean I'm sure at a certain

1091
00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:43,039
point your core audience stays with you and those that

1092
00:49:43,079 --> 00:49:47,159
were just watching you for the for the rhetoric. You know,

1093
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,079
everybody goes their separate ways. They find their new show

1094
00:49:50,119 --> 00:49:51,639
that they like and they kind of go. But your

1095
00:49:51,639 --> 00:49:54,880
core audience that really appreciated what you did and you know,

1096
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,760
they come up to you, I'm sure and just say.

1097
00:49:56,599 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: Hey you yeah, yeah, yeah, because you had an impact

1098
00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:00,599
act on them.

1099
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:02,159
Speaker 2: That's why. Yeah, they liked that.

1100
00:50:02,159 --> 00:50:02,599
Speaker 5: That's cool.

1101
00:50:02,599 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 4: And so I think that stays, like you're saying, you know,

1102
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,760
they grew up with you and uh, and.

1103
00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 5: That's that's why we're doing this.

1104
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 4: We know that core audience is still out there and

1105
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,519
with you know the proliferation of YouTube and stuff like that,

1106
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:16,599
you're you're making new ones. There's a kid that turns

1107
00:50:16,639 --> 00:50:17,480
sixteen every day.

1108
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,119
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, that's true.

1109
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,519
Speaker 1: So when you guys, are you guys doing anything, You

1110
00:50:21,519 --> 00:50:23,079
guys are doing your YouTube channel?

1111
00:50:23,159 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 2: Right?

1112
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: What is your YouTube channel for people out there if

1113
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,199
they want to come find it?

1114
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 5: Really just one word farm truck and asy in.

1115
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 2: I'm talking okay cool.

1116
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 4: And then this is the podcasting things that new for

1117
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:39,599
for me.

1118
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been doing it maybe about a year now

1119
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:45,719
and it's been. You know, it's picking up steam. I'm

1120
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,280
getting better. I'm getting better guests, like you guys I did,

1121
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,440
I did, uh me and my brother did one. I

1122
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,320
mean we did a bunch of ones with some American

1123
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,599
chopper guys which did really well because it's right in

1124
00:50:55,639 --> 00:50:59,039
our wheelhouse. And I just did one with Todd from

1125
00:50:59,079 --> 00:51:03,440
gold Rush like last week. And so I'm picking up

1126
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,719
now because I'm doing them like this. It's hard to

1127
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,800
get people to come to your place, you know, I'm

1128
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,480
in Jersey now and it's like it's too much logistically,

1129
00:51:11,559 --> 00:51:13,440
So I'm going to just do them like this. Look,

1130
00:51:13,559 --> 00:51:17,719
we're having great conversations technologies there. I was trying to

1131
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,159
get more in person, but I'll be waiting forever, you know,

1132
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,119
so I got to get I gotta get it off

1133
00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:24,320
the ground. I got so many people that I've met,

1134
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:29,119
the interesting people, celebrities, athletes, musicians through the years that

1135
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,159
I'm gonna have on. So I think that, you know,

1136
00:51:33,199 --> 00:51:34,360
I'm just gonna keep building it.

1137
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,639
Speaker 2: I enjoy it. I like having these conversations.

1138
00:51:36,639 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: It gets us together, you know, otherwise we haven't spoken

1139
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,760
quite some time, and I you know, you get to

1140
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,119
be able to get caught up a little bit, you know, I'd.

1141
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 3: Agree that's right.

1142
00:51:46,039 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 5: Oh, there was there was a reboot.

1143
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,559
Speaker 4: I think we heard it through our film career at

1144
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:51,159
the time, that that you guys were going to do

1145
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,000
a reboot. Maybe, man, it might have four years ago,

1146
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,159
it might have been shortly after twenty twenty or before twenty,

1147
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,920
but you guys they were thinking about bringing it back.

1148
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 5: Was that a conversation? Was that just a rumor?

1149
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,039
Speaker 1: No, you were in and around that time there was

1150
00:52:05,079 --> 00:52:08,800
a conversation. But you know, networks are so strange now,

1151
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,360
even like Discovery and ever content is you know how

1152
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,239
it is, man Like when we first started, it was

1153
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,159
Discovery Channel, it was nine o'clock, it was Monday night.

1154
00:52:18,199 --> 00:52:20,320
If you didn't watch us then and there, you didn't,

1155
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,800
you miss the show. Now there's a million channels and

1156
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,280
a lot of the streaming has really cut in on

1157
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:32,440
the advertising on traditional channels like Discovery Channel and History

1158
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,079
and all these guys, like they just don't have the

1159
00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:37,760
advertisers they had at one time, so then they don't

1160
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,480
have the budgets for the shows, and then it's like

1161
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,760
a trickle down. So I don't know, man, I feel

1162
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:48,119
like a lot of these traditional networks are kind of

1163
00:52:48,199 --> 00:52:50,800
like shrinking back year after year, and it's been going

1164
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,519
on for probably a decade now. But now with streaming,

1165
00:52:53,559 --> 00:52:55,800
I mean, I'll be honest with you, I don't really

1166
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,199
even watch cable anymore.

1167
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,559
Speaker 2: I just I don't even barely watch TV. But if

1168
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:01,800
I do, I'll put a movie on one of the

1169
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,599
streaming channels. That's it. That's no, that's it. I don't

1170
00:53:04,639 --> 00:53:07,480
watch the news. Let's face it. Everything you get is

1171
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:08,559
on your phone anymore.

1172
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 5: That's right.

1173
00:53:11,159 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 3: You have to pay for cable and YouTube is free

1174
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:14,480
on your phone.

1175
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 2: That's right. That's right.

1176
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: And so this this will be on YouTube as well.

1177
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,039
My channel is not nearly as big. You guys have

1178
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:23,159
a great channel. It's built up. You've got quite a

1179
00:53:23,159 --> 00:53:27,159
few followers. I'm working towards that. You know, you got

1180
00:53:27,199 --> 00:53:30,360
good numbers, man, you really do. I think people should

1181
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,039
pay more attention to you guys and spend more money

1182
00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:37,880
doing some advertising and maybe do some you know you

1183
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,400
got you need some big brands to come alongside and

1184
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,719
do some sponsorships that are good. These people should stop

1185
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:51,519
being so stuffy and starts throwing money at you.

1186
00:53:51,639 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 4: We appreciate you, man, Thanks for the positivity and pushing

1187
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,559
through this thing. And you've always been a welcoming voice

1188
00:53:59,559 --> 00:54:03,800
in this uh you know, in this landscape, and uh

1189
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,800
we we you've always taken our phone call and been

1190
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,480
able to We've been able to reach out to you.

1191
00:54:09,519 --> 00:54:12,280
And Pops too, man, seniors, he's been cool to us.

1192
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,039
I know you guys have your own whatever's and that's fine.

1193
00:54:16,639 --> 00:54:19,079
You're two separate people and we, you know, we keep

1194
00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:21,000
it that way. We know that y'all aren't enjoined at

1195
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,119
the hip and you don't live with each other, and

1196
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,320
you know, every day is different. So we just appreciate

1197
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,079
you too. And hell, we grew up watching you too

1198
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,800
in a way, right, yeah, yeah, your career, We grew

1199
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up watching you.

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Speaker 3: Guys. We should get together and do something sometime.

1201
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we should. Let's talk about that because man, maybe.

1202
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,159
Speaker 1: Uh some kind of build would be good. I think

1203
00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:48,360
people would go nuts for that. Uh you know, I

1204
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:53,119
don't know what, but maybe, ah, I don't know, man,

1205
00:54:53,159 --> 00:54:56,000
maybe a farm truck in Asian bike or something like that.

1206
00:54:56,199 --> 00:55:03,119
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I thought that's right. I

1207
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:03,800
like it.

1208
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 3: Asian can ride a bike, but it makes me nervous.

1209
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so maybe my side car thing might be good,

1210
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:14,800
you know. On a serious note, we should probably let's

1211
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,320
think about something that makes sense that we could do together,

1212
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,079
because that would be fun. Man. I think, first of all,

1213
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I think people would love to see that, and I

1214
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,400
think it would be like it would be a fun

1215
00:55:24,519 --> 00:55:28,920
like coming together of these two worlds to create something

1216
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:30,760
kind of cool and interesting, you know.

1217
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Speaker 5: I don't know.

1218
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 3: Maybe we could race, you know, build something.

1219
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that, man, I'll watch you guys race.

1220
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:42,079
I'm not racing anything, man, I don't want I'm fifty one.

1221
00:55:42,079 --> 00:55:45,320
I don't want to crash something getting old.

1222
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,519
Speaker 4: Now, you know, you can collab on something, and maybe

1223
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,280
we're building a bike and we we got some you know,

1224
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,000
some PJ designs on there, you know.

1225
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's talk about I'll tell you

1226
00:55:59,639 --> 00:56:01,239
what we could do is we could probably get a

1227
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,960
sponsor to come in and dump some money in it,

1228
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:09,000
because that's how we roll, bro. So if we're doing something,

1229
00:56:09,039 --> 00:56:11,920
we're bringing some company in, it's got lots of deep

1230
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,239
pockets that are gonna I think that's how we do it, man,

1231
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,280
something like that, because I think a collaboration, like a

1232
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,639
serious collaboration where we create something unique would be worth

1233
00:56:22,679 --> 00:56:25,079
bringing someone in to say, Okay, we're gonna put the

1234
00:56:25,079 --> 00:56:25,639
bill on.

1235
00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:27,559
Speaker 2: This, and then we put it on the YouTube channel.

1236
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:29,840
I mean, what the heck? I think I think it

1237
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,000
would fly, you know?

1238
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:32,039
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1239
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,639
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, So.

1240
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,119
Speaker 4: We got well, when the dust settles around here, we

1241
00:56:37,199 --> 00:56:38,400
got the easy part out of the way.

1242
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:39,679
Speaker 5: We'll we'll do something with you.

1243
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: Now, are you guys gonna be able to build out

1244
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,039
of that facility? There is that gonna be like or

1245
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:46,960
is that going to be more of a museum or it's.

1246
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,679
Speaker 3: Just a museum over? Okay, there's not going.

1247
00:56:48,679 --> 00:56:51,159
Speaker 2: To be room for doing any work, gotcha.

1248
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 3: Okay, but we got a small shop that we could

1249
00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:54,920
get something done in.

1250
00:56:55,039 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a separate place where we actually do

1251
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:58,320
the work.

1252
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,559
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, man, I like the back cave. Okay, cool,

1253
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:03,840
so we we.

1254
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 5: Can handle it.

1255
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 4: We've got equipment, welders, lifts, grinders, tables, nothing's automated, but

1256
00:57:10,519 --> 00:57:11,639
it's all here right.

1257
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 2: Well, I like it, man, I like it. I got

1258
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,440
a water jet if you need one, you know, we

1259
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:22,559
do so cool.

1260
00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:23,199
Speaker 5: That'd be cool.

1261
00:57:23,239 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 4: Man.

1262
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,559
Speaker 3: Well let's let's what kind of water jet you have?

1263
00:57:25,639 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: What's the cos it's flow flow water jet?

1264
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,719
Speaker 1: We we we put them on the map back in

1265
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the day when when we first started carrying their equipment

1266
00:57:34,239 --> 00:57:38,039
in the early days. And uh man, I'll tell you

1267
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:41,199
they they really benefited. They hooked us up with machinery.

1268
00:57:41,239 --> 00:57:43,679
But boy oh boy, every episode we were using that

1269
00:57:43,719 --> 00:57:47,719
water jet for every aspect to everything, and uh man,

1270
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,960
it just it literally put them on the map. As

1271
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,920
a matter of fact, we used to call it the

1272
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,039
flow jet just because you know, you just start saying

1273
00:57:55,079 --> 00:57:58,719
whatever you want, and so it was flow water jet

1274
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,719
and we called it the flow jet, and they actually

1275
00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:03,760
went ahead and they copyrighted Flowjeck because we said.

1276
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Speaker 2: It so much.

1277
00:58:04,199 --> 00:58:07,639
Speaker 1: So yeah, but yeah, technology, I look what's going on

1278
00:58:07,719 --> 00:58:10,079
right now out there, and the world of technology is

1279
00:58:10,119 --> 00:58:16,400
really unbelievable, you know. So I think between between what

1280
00:58:16,679 --> 00:58:18,639
I think we could bring, I think our two worlds

1281
00:58:18,679 --> 00:58:21,960
coming together could really do something because I think what

1282
00:58:22,039 --> 00:58:25,960
we have here is we have the form, okay, which

1283
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,360
is kind of a little bit of what I would bring,

1284
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,440
and then the function, which I feel like is what

1285
00:58:31,519 --> 00:58:33,920
you guys are going to bring in the ingenuity and

1286
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,719
the engine and the power and the way we drive

1287
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:37,280
this thing.

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Speaker 2: You know.

1289
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, man, yeah, yeah, no, I like it all.

1290
00:58:41,639 --> 00:58:41,840
I do.

1291
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,559
Speaker 4: I would I would learn quite a bit just by

1292
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,079
what you know and you know, us injecting what we

1293
00:58:48,159 --> 00:58:51,119
think we know over here, and it'd be awesome just

1294
00:58:51,159 --> 00:58:52,000
for the experience.

1295
00:58:52,239 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: Well, fellas, man, it was good seeing you guys, even

1296
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,000
if we're not in person.

1297
00:58:57,159 --> 00:58:59,719
Speaker 2: It's it's been a long time, and you guys.

1298
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: Don't you got have an aged like a minute since

1299
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,239
the last time we.

1300
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:09,239
Speaker 5: Bought Michael Jackson's it's working out. We bought it.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

1302
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's do this, man, We'll put a pin

1303
00:59:17,199 --> 00:59:19,280
in it for now. I appreciate you guys coming on

1304
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,119
my podcast, and uh yeah, let's talk on the side

1305
00:59:23,159 --> 00:59:25,159
about what we might be able to do together because

1306
00:59:25,159 --> 00:59:27,320
I think it would make some noise out there and

1307
00:59:27,639 --> 00:59:29,559
I'm looking to have a little bit of fun like that,

1308
00:59:29,719 --> 00:59:29,960
you know.

1309
00:59:31,079 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1310
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 4: Cool, We're proud of you, and thank you for thinking

1311
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:37,840
of us to do to do this for purchase what

1312
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,400
you're what you're currently trying to create here on the interwebs.

1313
00:59:41,559 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, appreciate it, all right, guys, cool, Thanks again, and

1314
00:59:45,039 --> 00:59:46,000
we'll talk soon.

1315
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 3: All right, stay in touch.

1316
00:59:49,039 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: Well, thanks guys, Hey, guys, thanks for listening to the

1317
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,400
Paul Junior Podcast and make sure you follow me on

1318
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,400
social media and subscribe to my YouTube channel.

1319
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Speaker 2: Thanks