Speaker 1: You're listening to Big the Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.
In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to
bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've
seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers
to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
just might change the way you see the woods forever.
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please go to the carring Bridge link in the show notes.
Thank you, hi.
Speaker 2: Father, How are you? Yes? I Ken? How are you excellent?
Speaker 3: Good? Very well? Thank you?
Speaker 2: Awesome?
Speaker 4: Due?
Speaker 2: Yes, I Ken?
Speaker 3: How are you excellent?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 3: Very well? Thank you?
Speaker 2: Oh that's so weird. That's a weird. I think we're
good now. Yeah, okay, apologies, you're good. You're good. Feel
free to share what your experience was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, excellent. So you actually did a TikTok about my
big foot Mapping Project report on this a few months ago.
Really it was last October. It got about half a
million views and shared on our community page over here.
But I was tickled by that. Actually. So it was
last October on the second, and I was walking dog.
I work a long day, so I have to be
up about four o'clock in the morning, and we walked
through the community well before anyone else is up, and
I was coming around the corner or Cold Sack is
a circle with three streets that kind of cut through
very quiet. We're out in the woods, elk, deer, coyotes,
all the things, and it's just us beautiful morning, and
I smell the most foul stench you can imagine. I
mean all the gross things. Put them in a pile
hot sun, let it cook. That it was foul. It
was everything like rotting flesh, fish, rotten eggs, all kinds
of stuff. My dog perks up. She has a very
high preydrive, so she can smell it too. And as
we get closer, it's behind this home that is these
people come in the summer and it's kind of their
little oasis, so they're not home, and we can can
it just gets stronger and stronger as we get closer,
and I think, is this garbage? Is this an animal
that's dyed? Is this something? What could this be? And
I thought, well, just for fun, why don't you try
a woop bark and see what happens? Just see right,
just one because it is early. Don't be a jerk,
but just give it a shot. So I go, whoa
kind of loud? You know, my hand to god, this
thing woot bark back so loud. I mean it must
have had barrels for lungs and just abs and steel.
It was so loud, like it was mimicking me. Back
to me.
Speaker 4: And my dog.
Speaker 3: She has, like I said, a high prey drive, so
her ears are fully forward, all the hair on her
back is standing up. I can't believe no one heard
this and was woken up. It was so loud, and
I wanted so bad to go and invest in.
Speaker 1: This was U.
Speaker 2: Mean, I'll say Washington state, and.
Speaker 3: Yes, Washington state on the Olympic Peninsula. And if something
happened to my dog, my fault and I would feel terrible.
And I knew better than to go to the whistles
and go to the root barks, And I said, okay,
you know what this is. Don't play games. Just keep going.
And as we're coming around the corner of the river,
there's a beautiful river and it gets kind of close
to our neighborhood and I can hear the elk clumping
around and they they're not scared of anything, you know,
they could care less about your dog or your truck backfiring.
But they were absolutely terrified. I mean their eyes were
all the way open, neck all the way back, clumped
together really close. So this bigfoot was muff of a
potential predator that they were scared. So that was enough
for me to know I have to go. We cut
our walk shirt, I go home. I go back to
that site, and I said, got to look for evidence.
It's going to rain, any evidence is going to depreciate
or be washed away. Just take a look and see
what you can find. And I find four tracks, one
adult and three juvenile ones. And I cast the right
foot of the juvenile footprint because it was the best.
But I took video of pictures and measurements of everything,
and it was truly like it was truly astonishing how
huge these feet were. How I mean I even looked
at other pictures online I looked at comparisons with Grizzly
Bear and and black Bear. They were no relation to
each other at all. And then the following so, someone
shared your TikTok and all of the store, all of
the comments were either that's a bunch of bull or
pick people sharing their own stories exactly.
Speaker 1: I remember that one went nuts in a lot of
it went really crazy. And after that I started looking
into that area more and I was like, oh my goodness,
there's there's stuff all over here, like like Cushman. I mean,
you really just like throw a dart at a map
in that area and it doesn't matter, like it's all
over the place. So you have you have actual track casts.
Speaker 3: I do. I have. I have a track cast. I
brought it to the Bigfoot Research convention in that November
and Ocean Shores and showed it to people. And I
hadn't told anyone the story until I went to that convention,
and it was like a safe space to share your
encounter and everyone believes you. So it's kind of being
in a little bubble, but it was. It was fascinating
to hear other people respect who were receptive to me
but also to each other. There are so many amazing stories,
but there were a lot of commonalities. Not everybody smelled
a stench, but there were plenty who did, and it was,
you know, it was quite interesting.
Speaker 1: That is it is really cool to actually be able
to talk to you. A lot of these ones. I
never get to talk to the person, like if I
make a video, but every once in a while to
stuff lines up and it is so cool to talk
to you. Have you heard other accounts from that same area.
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, yes I have. There was a gentleman who
had a not the best video, but they he had
a off to the side of the road. When you're
looking at the video, you see the dirt road and
then to the left there's this large hairy animal going
back and forth, left and right, backwards and forwards, kind
of shaking behind a bush and you can clearly see it.
But he zooms in on the road like going forward
instead of on the creature, and he goes, oh, there,
he goes up. They're running off now and he run
Apparently it ran off into the bushes. There were several
people who oh I saw two of them up on
Mount Jupiter, or I saw one over over here in
this area, or something like that, but there were there
are others who have said, you know, I've seen something
or I heard something, heard some howls. I also heard
a howl actually the following almost a month to the day.
Just try a howl, and I got an It was
very loud. It was very very long, just a really
loud I wu And we have we have coyotes, but
they don't sound like that, and wolves have been almost
driven to extinction. They're much higher elevations and farther away.
So I think that it was response, if that bigfoot
was responding to me in that morning. But I'm one
hundred percent a believer, and I've done further research Gifford
Pinchot and other areas around that part of where I live,
and there's there's a lot to be seen. There's a
lot of a lot of people who believe, a lot
who don't, but a lot of people who do.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you are wanting to get into it,
you you are in the perfect area because like as
you said, I mean Olympic Peninsula, but also Gifford Pinchot
down in Scamania County, and it's so wild you would
you would run out of time in your life probably
trying to go to every place that people talk about
out there. I mean, there's so much, there's so many,
absolutely so much. One last question, so has this put
you on a path to try to figure out what's
going on with this or what is What is your
thoughts about bigfoot after having this experience?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was already a paranormal gater, but it was
ghosts and I just hunting ghosts, and then I thought,
wouldn't it be cool to see this? And I'll tell ya,
I don't think the question is does bigfoot exist? I
think the question is what is bigfoot? Yeah, because it
seems to me that they're mammalian bipedal, of course, but
they seem to hover between this world and another. The
hologram eyes and how they're able to fade away and
disappear and be just enough out of the light that
you don't see them even with a flashlight or a
spotlight or something. They are able to avoid cameras very well,
especially trail cameras, but you can hear them, and they
usually are seen when they're not paying attention, when they're
not being careful, not because you went out hunting for
them necessarily. I think they are highly intelligent, clearly have
a communication a language of their own. I also think
that they're the only animal, if you will, that we
haven't messed with. They're the only species that we haven't
either hunted to extinction or destroyed their natural habitat or
wiped them out. They certainly don't any they don't need
any help from us, and they're not trying to mess
with us, and I don't as a conservationist, I can't
see any reason to go and hunt one or capture
one or any of that nonsense. I think they they
they're respectful of us, and we in turn should be
respectful of them. This is the only one we haven't
screwed up, guys, and it should stay that way.
Speaker 2: That's such a good point.
Speaker 1: I've never heard anyone bring bring it up that way before,
and it is definitely true. It's it's the one we
haven't really messed up yet, so hopefully continues it continues
to do that. But if you ever have anything else happen,
or any weird experiences out there, I would love to
hear about it. I mean, you've got my email now,
and yeah, it's a Bigfoot Society at your Bigfoot Society
at gmail.
Speaker 3: Dot com, Bigfoot dot Society at gmail.
Speaker 2: Dot com, just Bigfoot Society at job.
Speaker 3: All right, I'll send you that picture.
Speaker 2: Awesome.
Speaker 1: Well, hey, thank you so much for coming up. I'm
gonna check in with a few other people, but good
look out there and hopefully you've run into some other things.
Speaker 3: Thank you for your time.
Speaker 4: I've enjoyed.
Speaker 3: Bye bye.
Speaker 2: Man. That was so cool.
Speaker 1: That's why I love TikTok lives is you never know
who you're going to talk to.
Speaker 2: Hider, how are you?
Speaker 4: I'm good? How are you hey?
Speaker 1: Doing well? Thank you for coming up. Feel free to
share what your experience was.
Speaker 4: I've had many. I've been kind of thrown into researching
for fourteen years now.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: So instead of before I begin I was one of
those people that thought believers were crazy until one ran
in front of our car like ten feet and it
took me two weeks to even process it in my
brain what I had seen. Because I live in Indiana,
we don't have bears. And if you want to look
up sidings, look up Morgan Monroe State Forest, YEP, because
that's where it was. Yeah. And I started just doing
my own research and started following some people who did
what they call gifting habituation things like that, and I
tried my hand on it with it and it was
very successful for years. So what I'm going to do
is I'm going to take you in the middle. After
I stopped being afraid of them and had a lot
of positive experiences, most of my experiences were always positive
when my ex husband wasn't around. When my ex husband
was around, they tend to like to be scary and
do a lot of screaming and a lot of banging,
But when it was myself or myself and my daughter,
they were always gentle and very protective. So this was
probably the summer of twenty seventeen. My daughter and I
had gone out camping and it was very odded. It
was one of those nights where it was kind of
stormy earlier in the night and everything. So when we
put the tin up, we put up the guy wires
and everything so the tin didn't blow away. And we
had heard a little bit of hunting going on because
you could hear them. It was almost like clockwork. At
a certain time of the night. You would hear at
the female howl. You could hear them move around the
forest in a certain direction, and sometimes you would actually
hear a kill. And we had heard the screaming and
squealing and all, and my daughter was like, no, that's
let's just go to bed. So we went to bed.
It was about three o'clock in the morning. I heard gunshots.
Now this is a forest where they do allow hunting,
but at this particular time there wasn't. It wasn't hunting season,
so of course I sat straight up terrified. My daughter
slept right through it. And that's when I noticed that
somebody had set up camp, because the campground was completely
empty except for my daughter and I. And then somebody
looked like a hiker because they had a very small
tent and kind of saw a light on like they were,
you know, looking at their phone or maybe a computer
or something in the tent. So after I heard the gunshot,
I kind of laid back down, and then I heard
something coming up the ridge. And if you've ever heard
something coming at you like that, that is that large
coming uphill. It just sounded far too big to be
a human. I knew what it was by the time
he stepped up onto the campground, because you know what
tent camping is like. The areas are grassy, it's kind
of like hard packed down dirt, and I could feel it.
He walked around the back of the tent over to
my daughter's side and stood there. I could hear him breathing.
You could almost feel the heat off of him. And
this was this is one of the biggest mains. And
I had visually seen him before on two other occasions,
and we have eighteen and a half inch footprint castings
of him. I have photographs of his footprints. But anyway,
he stood there for a moment, and then as he
walked around the back of the tent, he bumped into
one of the guy wires and pulled the entire corner
of the tent where I was kind of down, and
then it snapped back up like he realized, oh crap,
I'm going to tear the tent down. I had my
window unzipped, and he'd come around and he was standing
right there, and as much as I wasn't afraid of them,
at that point, I couldn't move. I could feel the heat,
I could hear him breathing, and he just stood there,
I guess to make sure we were okay. And then
he walked off and up the road, and I knew
he was heading toward the other camper. So the next morning,
my daughter and I got up. I asked her, I said,
did you hear what went on? I said, you were
sawing logs over there, and she said no. I told
her what happened, and she goes, well, I'm glad I
slept through that. Now she has had sightings before. She
has seen the white one. There are class eight sightings
of a white one there at Morgan Monroe. She has
seen that one. I haven't seen it, but she believes
and everything, but she just still creeps her ound. So
I was telling her about it, and she was like, well,
you know, I hope that person up there is okay.
And so we got packed up and everything, and I
noticed the guy was kind of looking over at us
as we were packing up. So as we were leaving,
I stopped and I said hey, I said, everything okay,
and he said I could you stop for a moment.
So my daughter and I stopped and we approached him,
and he was somebody who just travels from like state
to state and goes hiking, and there are some amazing
trails through Morgan Monroe, and so he said, am I
safe to hike here? And I'm like, what do you mean?
And he said, well, he said something happened last night,
and I thought it was you guys. But now that
I see that you're two very small women, I know
it wasn't you. And I kind of looked at my
daughter and I smiled and I said, so you heard him?
And he said, what do you mean him? And I said,
what happened? And he said that he had heard the gunshots.
No big deal. He said he was watching a movie
on his laptop. And he said he heard something come
through the grass and that walked around his tent and
even had stepped on the oh what do you call it?
He had a tarp underneath this tent and you know
how some of those be kind of crunchy. And he
said he heard that and he said, then he heard
it move off, and he said, I just thought it
was you guys messing around with me. He said, but
I heard howling and weird noises during the night. Am
I am? I losing my mind? I said, no, you're not,
and he said, on my safe here. I said, you're
absolutely safe and he said, is that what I think
it is? I've heard stories about He said, I don't
want to sound crazy, I said, Bigfoot, And he said exactly,
I said yes. I said, we have had many experiences here.
I said, to be honest, I just believe he came
up to check on us, saw you were here and
thought they would check on you too, And he said,
this is this is this is too crazy. He just
he turned white as a sh eat. And I said no,
I said, you are safe. I said, we have been
researching this area for many, many years. I said, we
camp out here by ourselves all the time. We've never
been hurt. I said, We've had a few things thrown
at us from the juveniles, but they've never done anything
to actually hurt us. And I said that that's just
one I have. I've actually written two books about my
experiences because there have been so many.
Speaker 2: What's what's the name of one of your books? I
feel like I should know who you are.
Speaker 4: Indiana Bigfoot, The Beautiful Mind, and then part two is
Indiana Bigfoot, The Cave and Beyond.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've talked to so many people from.
Speaker 4: Uh Indian Indian big Foot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'm going to check those out. I mean,
I talked to quite a bit of people, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Indiana Bigfoot Research organization. I've been with them since
twenty fourteen, since the first thing Lee Roy and I
Lee Rory Nancy Lee Rory runs it. I've been friends
with him for a long time and I've actually spoken
with him several times and shared my stories. But I
honestly think when we talk about the odor, the smell
that's only happened to me once, and it was during
one of our because we have spring and fall camp
outs and we have a lot of people that come
who've never had experiences before, and I do believe wholeheartedly
it's kind of like a skunk or any animal who
would have a defense mechanism such as an odor. I
think that is something they use as a warning because
I've never smelt it in the times that they have
been close to me, and we have had a lot
of Class A encounters. I honestly believe wholeheartedly that they
will show themselves to people that they believe they can trust,
people who aren't going to go out, And I'm going
to use quotations hunting them, because that's one thing I've
never done. I have never we never really share the
exact location where the vast majority of the things have happened.
There's only one of two other people who know where
my research site was. I have since moved to far
southwestern Indiana and I get back up there whenever I can.
But I have had so many positive experiences, and just
like the last woman said, I will protect them at
all costs. Surete at all costs, because to me, it
seems like almost like they're reaching out even more because
I think experiences are starting to get more and more
popular yep. And I think the state of the world
right now and the way it has been for decades,
it's almost like they're reaching out. Maybe there's something they
have to share with us, something they have to teach us.
I'm not sure, but it just seems being part of
the IBRO, more and more and more people are coming
forward saying, you know, I have this experience. We have
so many people in our group who own private property,
who have them plans that live on their property.
Speaker 2: Indiana is so crazy.
Speaker 4: I have so many photographs gifts that they have left me,
and I think probably one of the most exciting things
that I have as a recording that was taken about
two thirty in the morning as we were leaving in
the middle of winter and it was almost like they
didn't want us to go. He howled, and then he
begins speaking, and it's about a thirty second clip and
you could hear him very very clearly speaking in of
course the language that almost sounds Native American. And that
is a clip that I have held on to. I've
had it since probably about twenty fifteen and I still
I transfer it phone to phone. I keep it and
it's something that the IBRO proudly plays when they go
to like libraries and speak and things like that's.
Speaker 1: Awesome, that is so cool. I talked to a few
people about Morgan Monroe. I think, what is it, I'm
going to mess up his nickname as a squatch man.
Speaker 4: I love him to death. I have picture of meet
him and Leroy together. I went to speak at one
of the Spring pampouts and I got to meet squatch man.
I love him to pieces. And Martin. I don't know
if you've ever spoken to Martin. He has the YouTube
channel called I Think It's Camping the Sasquatch.
Speaker 2: No, I haven't. I'll need to write that down.
Speaker 4: Martin actually took over for me for a while and
I taught him what that particular clan liked as far
as gifts and things like that, and he had very
very positive experiences. But the first night he camped there,
he texted me losing his mind because things were happening
and he's like, I don't know what to do. I
don't know what to do. I said, it's fine, it's fine.
And it was almost like they knew we were communicating
because they calmed down and very positive things started happening
for him. And he did it for several years, camping
on his own. So yeah, we've got a really wonderful group.
IBRO Indiana Bigfoot Research Organization is on. We've got a big, big,
big Facebook group and like I said, we just had
our spring camp out. We have one in Fall and
Leewory Nancy have a little shop that they just opened
in Nashville, Indiana.
Speaker 2: Yes, I've seen pictures. Does pretty sweet.
Speaker 1: They're one of the weirdest accounts I've taken over the years.
Is actually by Morgan Monroe as a gentleman who was
telling me about an experience he had near Cross School,
which is northeast of Morgan Monroe. It's like a Revolutionary
War summit terry and he was in this cemetery, and
he pretty much saw a nine and a half foot
tall bigfoot. But then after they had a stare down.
The crazy thing is. The wild thing is that it
walked directly into a tree and like disappeared into it,
like Harry Potter, you know, when he walks into that.
But this is the thing I've never heard anywhere else.
A few after a little bit, it came back out
of the tree, but it like back It came backwards
out of the tree, so it like phased back out
of the tree after it phased into it. And I
was like, oh my goodness, this area is nuts. Like
I've never heard anything like that.
Speaker 4: So the only I mean, we I have haven't experienced
anything to that degree, although Martin, did I have experienced
mind speak?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And this was this was something I was like,
I'd listened to people's stories. I listened to people's experience,
and I'm like, that's very interesting. I put it in
the back of my brain and say, I hope this
happens to me. The only thing that I have that
I can't explain is being out in the middle of
the forest pitch black, no lights and hearing the knocks
and whatnot. And then all of a sudden, getting a
flash of light like somebody had flashed an old school
camera in my eyes, just boom. And that's happened three
or four different times. And that's one thing that I
absolutely have no explanation for.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that is that is extremely wild. I
just had my first experience with lights down Tennessee, and
its that message with your head. I was not prepared.
I was like, what's happening, and we like put the
light on it, and it's like there were any bugs.
It's like exactly crazy. Is absolutely crazy, man. What I'm
going to check out your your books for sure, Indiana
Bigfoot to Cavin Beyond, it's Edwina Cato Is that right?
Speaker 4: Yes, apologus, No, that's my former name.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, sure sure.
Speaker 4: But yeah I wrote those back oh shortly after I
started really having a lot of experiences. And I'm getting
ready to bring both of the books together into one,
and I'm going to kind of look back because now
that I am out of that situation I was in
with my ex it's like hindsight. I'm seeing now why
they acted the way they did whenever he was around.
They didn't like him, and when he had experiences when
he was on his own. They were always terrifying, and
I just believe wholeheartedly they know the type of people
we are. I don't believe they have just this incredible
instinct when it comes to people. So yeah, I would
be honored if you took a look at those. But
you know, I'm not here to sell books. I just
love sharing the stories because I used to not be
a believer at all. I was one of those people
that thought Bigfoot believers were absolutely nuts until it happened,
and they're amazing beings, just incredible.
Speaker 1: Thanks and it's life changing. Yes, and thank you for
coming up and sharing and hopefully, hopefully maybe we'll have
another chat someday. It sounds like you have many different
things you've experienced, and that was probably just a small, small.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everything from the terrifying to hilarious, because they do
I always I always say, and I'll close with this
is the messing with sasquatch commercials they used to have
on TV. Now it's it's the opposite, because they literally
if they trust you, they will mess with you, especially
the juveniles. Because I had one drop out of a
tree right next to me one night and I nearly
jumped out of my skin while this little stinker ran
down the hill, and I, after being shocked, I laughed
about it because they are jokesters. Once they trust you.
Speaker 2: A hundred percent, you hit it right on the head.
Speaker 1: But we will, we'll stay in touch on I'm going
to make sure that I follow you on here. But
thank you so much for coming up, and you have
a great rest of yours. I hopefully you can hang
out for a bit, but thank you.
Speaker 4: I will absolutely thank you.
Speaker 2: You got it.
Speaker 4: Bye bye.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: It's such a great conversation. That area is wild. Nobody
knows about it. Just south of Indianapolis too, it's wild.
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