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Speaker 1: You're listening to Big the Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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Speaker 2: So stay with us.

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Speaker 1: Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he continues his

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fight against cancer. For more updates about his medical journey,

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please go to the carring Bridge link in the show notes.

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Thank you, hi.

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Speaker 2: Father, How are you? Yes? I Ken? How are you excellent?

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Speaker 3: Good? Very well? Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Awesome?

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Speaker 4: Due?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I Ken?

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Speaker 3: How are you excellent?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 3: Very well? Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Oh that's so weird. That's a weird. I think we're

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good now. Yeah, okay, apologies, you're good. You're good. Feel

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free to share what your experience was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, excellent. So you actually did a TikTok about my

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big foot Mapping Project report on this a few months ago.

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Really it was last October. It got about half a

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million views and shared on our community page over here.

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But I was tickled by that. Actually. So it was

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last October on the second, and I was walking dog.

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I work a long day, so I have to be

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up about four o'clock in the morning, and we walked

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through the community well before anyone else is up, and

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I was coming around the corner or Cold Sack is

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a circle with three streets that kind of cut through

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very quiet. We're out in the woods, elk, deer, coyotes,

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all the things, and it's just us beautiful morning, and

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I smell the most foul stench you can imagine. I

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mean all the gross things. Put them in a pile

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hot sun, let it cook. That it was foul. It

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was everything like rotting flesh, fish, rotten eggs, all kinds

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of stuff. My dog perks up. She has a very

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high preydrive, so she can smell it too. And as

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we get closer, it's behind this home that is these

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people come in the summer and it's kind of their

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little oasis, so they're not home, and we can can

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it just gets stronger and stronger as we get closer,

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and I think, is this garbage? Is this an animal

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that's dyed? Is this something? What could this be? And

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I thought, well, just for fun, why don't you try

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a woop bark and see what happens? Just see right,

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just one because it is early. Don't be a jerk,

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but just give it a shot. So I go, whoa

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kind of loud? You know, my hand to god, this

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thing woot bark back so loud. I mean it must

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have had barrels for lungs and just abs and steel.

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It was so loud, like it was mimicking me. Back

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to me.

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Speaker 4: And my dog.

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Speaker 3: She has, like I said, a high prey drive, so

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her ears are fully forward, all the hair on her

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back is standing up. I can't believe no one heard

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this and was woken up. It was so loud, and

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I wanted so bad to go and invest in.

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Speaker 1: This was U.

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Speaker 2: Mean, I'll say Washington state, and.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Washington state on the Olympic Peninsula. And if something

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happened to my dog, my fault and I would feel terrible.

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And I knew better than to go to the whistles

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and go to the root barks, And I said, okay,

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you know what this is. Don't play games. Just keep going.

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And as we're coming around the corner of the river,

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there's a beautiful river and it gets kind of close

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to our neighborhood and I can hear the elk clumping

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around and they they're not scared of anything, you know,

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they could care less about your dog or your truck backfiring.

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But they were absolutely terrified. I mean their eyes were

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all the way open, neck all the way back, clumped

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together really close. So this bigfoot was muff of a

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potential predator that they were scared. So that was enough

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for me to know I have to go. We cut

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our walk shirt, I go home. I go back to

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that site, and I said, got to look for evidence.

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It's going to rain, any evidence is going to depreciate

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or be washed away. Just take a look and see

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what you can find. And I find four tracks, one

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adult and three juvenile ones. And I cast the right

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foot of the juvenile footprint because it was the best.

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But I took video of pictures and measurements of everything,

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and it was truly like it was truly astonishing how

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huge these feet were. How I mean I even looked

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at other pictures online I looked at comparisons with Grizzly

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Bear and and black Bear. They were no relation to

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each other at all. And then the following so, someone

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shared your TikTok and all of the store, all of

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the comments were either that's a bunch of bull or

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pick people sharing their own stories exactly.

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Speaker 1: I remember that one went nuts in a lot of

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it went really crazy. And after that I started looking

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into that area more and I was like, oh my goodness,

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there's there's stuff all over here, like like Cushman. I mean,

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you really just like throw a dart at a map

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in that area and it doesn't matter, like it's all

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over the place. So you have you have actual track casts.

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Speaker 3: I do. I have. I have a track cast. I

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brought it to the Bigfoot Research convention in that November

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and Ocean Shores and showed it to people. And I

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hadn't told anyone the story until I went to that convention,

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and it was like a safe space to share your

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encounter and everyone believes you. So it's kind of being

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in a little bubble, but it was. It was fascinating

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to hear other people respect who were receptive to me

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but also to each other. There are so many amazing stories,

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but there were a lot of commonalities. Not everybody smelled

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a stench, but there were plenty who did, and it was,

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you know, it was quite interesting.

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Speaker 1: That is it is really cool to actually be able

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to talk to you. A lot of these ones. I

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never get to talk to the person, like if I

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make a video, but every once in a while to

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stuff lines up and it is so cool to talk

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to you. Have you heard other accounts from that same area.

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Speaker 3: Oh, yes, yes I have. There was a gentleman who

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had a not the best video, but they he had

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a off to the side of the road. When you're

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looking at the video, you see the dirt road and

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then to the left there's this large hairy animal going

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back and forth, left and right, backwards and forwards, kind

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of shaking behind a bush and you can clearly see it.

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But he zooms in on the road like going forward

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instead of on the creature, and he goes, oh, there,

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he goes up. They're running off now and he run

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Apparently it ran off into the bushes. There were several

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people who oh I saw two of them up on

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Mount Jupiter, or I saw one over over here in

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this area, or something like that, but there were there

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are others who have said, you know, I've seen something

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or I heard something, heard some howls. I also heard

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a howl actually the following almost a month to the day.

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Just try a howl, and I got an It was

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very loud. It was very very long, just a really

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loud I wu And we have we have coyotes, but

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they don't sound like that, and wolves have been almost

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driven to extinction. They're much higher elevations and farther away.

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So I think that it was response, if that bigfoot

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was responding to me in that morning. But I'm one

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hundred percent a believer, and I've done further research Gifford

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Pinchot and other areas around that part of where I live,

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and there's there's a lot to be seen. There's a

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lot of a lot of people who believe, a lot

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who don't, but a lot of people who do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you are wanting to get into it,

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you you are in the perfect area because like as

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you said, I mean Olympic Peninsula, but also Gifford Pinchot

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down in Scamania County, and it's so wild you would

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you would run out of time in your life probably

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trying to go to every place that people talk about

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out there. I mean, there's so much, there's so many,

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absolutely so much. One last question, so has this put

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you on a path to try to figure out what's

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going on with this or what is What is your

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thoughts about bigfoot after having this experience?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was already a paranormal gater, but it was

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ghosts and I just hunting ghosts, and then I thought,

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wouldn't it be cool to see this? And I'll tell ya,

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I don't think the question is does bigfoot exist? I

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think the question is what is bigfoot? Yeah, because it

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seems to me that they're mammalian bipedal, of course, but

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they seem to hover between this world and another. The

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hologram eyes and how they're able to fade away and

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disappear and be just enough out of the light that

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you don't see them even with a flashlight or a

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spotlight or something. They are able to avoid cameras very well,

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especially trail cameras, but you can hear them, and they

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usually are seen when they're not paying attention, when they're

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not being careful, not because you went out hunting for

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them necessarily. I think they are highly intelligent, clearly have

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a communication a language of their own. I also think

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that they're the only animal, if you will, that we

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haven't messed with. They're the only species that we haven't

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either hunted to extinction or destroyed their natural habitat or

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wiped them out. They certainly don't any they don't need

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any help from us, and they're not trying to mess

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with us, and I don't as a conservationist, I can't

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see any reason to go and hunt one or capture

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one or any of that nonsense. I think they they

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they're respectful of us, and we in turn should be

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respectful of them. This is the only one we haven't

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screwed up, guys, and it should stay that way.

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Speaker 2: That's such a good point.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard anyone bring bring it up that way before,

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and it is definitely true. It's it's the one we

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haven't really messed up yet, so hopefully continues it continues

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to do that. But if you ever have anything else happen,

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or any weird experiences out there, I would love to

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hear about it. I mean, you've got my email now,

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and yeah, it's a Bigfoot Society at your Bigfoot Society

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at gmail.

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Speaker 3: Dot com, Bigfoot dot Society at gmail.

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Speaker 2: Dot com, just Bigfoot Society at job.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'll send you that picture.

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Speaker 2: Awesome.

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Speaker 1: Well, hey, thank you so much for coming up. I'm

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gonna check in with a few other people, but good

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look out there and hopefully you've run into some other things.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for your time.

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Speaker 4: I've enjoyed.

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Speaker 3: Bye bye.

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Speaker 2: Man. That was so cool.

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Speaker 1: That's why I love TikTok lives is you never know

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who you're going to talk to.

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Speaker 2: Hider, how are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm good? How are you hey?

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Speaker 1: Doing well? Thank you for coming up. Feel free to

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share what your experience was.

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Speaker 4: I've had many. I've been kind of thrown into researching

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for fourteen years now.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow.

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Speaker 4: So instead of before I begin I was one of

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those people that thought believers were crazy until one ran

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in front of our car like ten feet and it

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took me two weeks to even process it in my

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brain what I had seen. Because I live in Indiana,

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we don't have bears. And if you want to look

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up sidings, look up Morgan Monroe State Forest, YEP, because

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that's where it was. Yeah. And I started just doing

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my own research and started following some people who did

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what they call gifting habituation things like that, and I

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tried my hand on it with it and it was

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very successful for years. So what I'm going to do

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is I'm going to take you in the middle. After

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I stopped being afraid of them and had a lot

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of positive experiences, most of my experiences were always positive

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when my ex husband wasn't around. When my ex husband

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was around, they tend to like to be scary and

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do a lot of screaming and a lot of banging,

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But when it was myself or myself and my daughter,

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they were always gentle and very protective. So this was

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probably the summer of twenty seventeen. My daughter and I

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had gone out camping and it was very odded. It

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was one of those nights where it was kind of

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stormy earlier in the night and everything. So when we

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put the tin up, we put up the guy wires

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and everything so the tin didn't blow away. And we

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had heard a little bit of hunting going on because

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you could hear them. It was almost like clockwork. At

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a certain time of the night. You would hear at

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the female howl. You could hear them move around the

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forest in a certain direction, and sometimes you would actually

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hear a kill. And we had heard the screaming and

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squealing and all, and my daughter was like, no, that's

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let's just go to bed. So we went to bed.

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It was about three o'clock in the morning. I heard gunshots.

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Now this is a forest where they do allow hunting,

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but at this particular time there wasn't. It wasn't hunting season,

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so of course I sat straight up terrified. My daughter

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slept right through it. And that's when I noticed that

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somebody had set up camp, because the campground was completely

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empty except for my daughter and I. And then somebody

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looked like a hiker because they had a very small

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tent and kind of saw a light on like they were,

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you know, looking at their phone or maybe a computer

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or something in the tent. So after I heard the gunshot,

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I kind of laid back down, and then I heard

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something coming up the ridge. And if you've ever heard

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something coming at you like that, that is that large

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coming uphill. It just sounded far too big to be

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a human. I knew what it was by the time

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he stepped up onto the campground, because you know what

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tent camping is like. The areas are grassy, it's kind

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of like hard packed down dirt, and I could feel it.

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He walked around the back of the tent over to

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my daughter's side and stood there. I could hear him breathing.

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You could almost feel the heat off of him. And

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this was this is one of the biggest mains. And

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I had visually seen him before on two other occasions,

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and we have eighteen and a half inch footprint castings

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of him. I have photographs of his footprints. But anyway,

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he stood there for a moment, and then as he

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walked around the back of the tent, he bumped into

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one of the guy wires and pulled the entire corner

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of the tent where I was kind of down, and

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then it snapped back up like he realized, oh crap,

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I'm going to tear the tent down. I had my

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window unzipped, and he'd come around and he was standing

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right there, and as much as I wasn't afraid of them,

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at that point, I couldn't move. I could feel the heat,

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I could hear him breathing, and he just stood there,

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I guess to make sure we were okay. And then

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he walked off and up the road, and I knew

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he was heading toward the other camper. So the next morning,

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my daughter and I got up. I asked her, I said,

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did you hear what went on? I said, you were

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sawing logs over there, and she said no. I told

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her what happened, and she goes, well, I'm glad I

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slept through that. Now she has had sightings before. She

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has seen the white one. There are class eight sightings

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of a white one there at Morgan Monroe. She has

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seen that one. I haven't seen it, but she believes

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and everything, but she just still creeps her ound. So

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I was telling her about it, and she was like, well,

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you know, I hope that person up there is okay.

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And so we got packed up and everything, and I

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noticed the guy was kind of looking over at us

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as we were packing up. So as we were leaving,

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I stopped and I said hey, I said, everything okay,

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and he said I could you stop for a moment.

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So my daughter and I stopped and we approached him,

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and he was somebody who just travels from like state

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to state and goes hiking, and there are some amazing

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trails through Morgan Monroe, and so he said, am I

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safe to hike here? And I'm like, what do you mean?

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And he said, well, he said something happened last night,

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and I thought it was you guys. But now that

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I see that you're two very small women, I know

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it wasn't you. And I kind of looked at my

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daughter and I smiled and I said, so you heard him?

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And he said, what do you mean him? And I said,

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what happened? And he said that he had heard the gunshots.

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No big deal. He said he was watching a movie

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on his laptop. And he said he heard something come

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through the grass and that walked around his tent and

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even had stepped on the oh what do you call it?

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He had a tarp underneath this tent and you know

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how some of those be kind of crunchy. And he

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said he heard that and he said, then he heard

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it move off, and he said, I just thought it

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was you guys messing around with me. He said, but

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I heard howling and weird noises during the night. Am

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I am? I losing my mind? I said, no, you're not,

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and he said, on my safe here. I said, you're

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absolutely safe and he said, is that what I think

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it is? I've heard stories about He said, I don't

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want to sound crazy, I said, Bigfoot, And he said exactly,

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I said yes. I said, we have had many experiences here.

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I said, to be honest, I just believe he came

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up to check on us, saw you were here and

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thought they would check on you too, And he said,

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this is this is this is too crazy. He just

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he turned white as a sh eat. And I said no,

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I said, you are safe. I said, we have been

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researching this area for many, many years. I said, we

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camp out here by ourselves all the time. We've never

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been hurt. I said, We've had a few things thrown

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at us from the juveniles, but they've never done anything

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to actually hurt us. And I said that that's just

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one I have. I've actually written two books about my

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experiences because there have been so many.

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Speaker 2: What's what's the name of one of your books? I

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feel like I should know who you are.

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Speaker 4: Indiana Bigfoot, The Beautiful Mind, and then part two is

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Indiana Bigfoot, The Cave and Beyond.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've talked to so many people from.

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Speaker 4: Uh Indian Indian big Foot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'm going to check those out. I mean,

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I talked to quite a bit of people, but.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Indiana Bigfoot Research organization. I've been with them since

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twenty fourteen, since the first thing Lee Roy and I

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Lee Rory Nancy Lee Rory runs it. I've been friends

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with him for a long time and I've actually spoken

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with him several times and shared my stories. But I

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honestly think when we talk about the odor, the smell

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that's only happened to me once, and it was during

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one of our because we have spring and fall camp

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outs and we have a lot of people that come

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who've never had experiences before, and I do believe wholeheartedly

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it's kind of like a skunk or any animal who

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would have a defense mechanism such as an odor. I

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think that is something they use as a warning because

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I've never smelt it in the times that they have

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been close to me, and we have had a lot

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of Class A encounters. I honestly believe wholeheartedly that they

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will show themselves to people that they believe they can trust,

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people who aren't going to go out, And I'm going

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to use quotations hunting them, because that's one thing I've

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never done. I have never we never really share the

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exact location where the vast majority of the things have happened.

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There's only one of two other people who know where

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my research site was. I have since moved to far

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southwestern Indiana and I get back up there whenever I can.

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But I have had so many positive experiences, and just

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like the last woman said, I will protect them at

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all costs. Surete at all costs, because to me, it

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seems like almost like they're reaching out even more because

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I think experiences are starting to get more and more

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popular yep. And I think the state of the world

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right now and the way it has been for decades,

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it's almost like they're reaching out. Maybe there's something they

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have to share with us, something they have to teach us.

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I'm not sure, but it just seems being part of

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the IBRO, more and more and more people are coming

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forward saying, you know, I have this experience. We have

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so many people in our group who own private property,

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who have them plans that live on their property.

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Speaker 2: Indiana is so crazy.

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Speaker 4: I have so many photographs gifts that they have left me,

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and I think probably one of the most exciting things

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that I have as a recording that was taken about

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two thirty in the morning as we were leaving in

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the middle of winter and it was almost like they

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didn't want us to go. He howled, and then he

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begins speaking, and it's about a thirty second clip and

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you could hear him very very clearly speaking in of

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course the language that almost sounds Native American. And that

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is a clip that I have held on to. I've

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had it since probably about twenty fifteen and I still

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I transfer it phone to phone. I keep it and

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it's something that the IBRO proudly plays when they go

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to like libraries and speak and things like that's.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, that is so cool. I talked to a few

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people about Morgan Monroe. I think, what is it, I'm

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going to mess up his nickname as a squatch man.

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Speaker 4: I love him to death. I have picture of meet

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him and Leroy together. I went to speak at one

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of the Spring pampouts and I got to meet squatch man.

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I love him to pieces. And Martin. I don't know

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if you've ever spoken to Martin. He has the YouTube

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channel called I Think It's Camping the Sasquatch.

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Speaker 2: No, I haven't. I'll need to write that down.

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Speaker 4: Martin actually took over for me for a while and

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I taught him what that particular clan liked as far

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as gifts and things like that, and he had very

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very positive experiences. But the first night he camped there,

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he texted me losing his mind because things were happening

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and he's like, I don't know what to do. I

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don't know what to do. I said, it's fine, it's fine.

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And it was almost like they knew we were communicating

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because they calmed down and very positive things started happening

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for him. And he did it for several years, camping

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on his own. So yeah, we've got a really wonderful group.

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IBRO Indiana Bigfoot Research Organization is on. We've got a big, big,

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big Facebook group and like I said, we just had

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our spring camp out. We have one in Fall and

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Leewory Nancy have a little shop that they just opened

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in Nashville, Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've seen pictures. Does pretty sweet.

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Speaker 1: They're one of the weirdest accounts I've taken over the years.

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Is actually by Morgan Monroe as a gentleman who was

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telling me about an experience he had near Cross School,

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which is northeast of Morgan Monroe. It's like a Revolutionary

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War summit terry and he was in this cemetery, and

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he pretty much saw a nine and a half foot

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tall bigfoot. But then after they had a stare down.

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The crazy thing is. The wild thing is that it

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walked directly into a tree and like disappeared into it,

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like Harry Potter, you know, when he walks into that.

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But this is the thing I've never heard anywhere else.

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A few after a little bit, it came back out

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of the tree, but it like back It came backwards

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out of the tree, so it like phased back out

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of the tree after it phased into it. And I

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was like, oh my goodness, this area is nuts. Like

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I've never heard anything like that.

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Speaker 4: So the only I mean, we I have haven't experienced

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anything to that degree, although Martin, did I have experienced

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mind speak?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And this was this was something I was like,

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I'd listened to people's stories. I listened to people's experience,

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and I'm like, that's very interesting. I put it in

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the back of my brain and say, I hope this

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happens to me. The only thing that I have that

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I can't explain is being out in the middle of

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the forest pitch black, no lights and hearing the knocks

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and whatnot. And then all of a sudden, getting a

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flash of light like somebody had flashed an old school

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camera in my eyes, just boom. And that's happened three

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or four different times. And that's one thing that I

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absolutely have no explanation for.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that is that is extremely wild. I

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just had my first experience with lights down Tennessee, and

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its that message with your head. I was not prepared.

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I was like, what's happening, and we like put the

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light on it, and it's like there were any bugs.

477
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It's like exactly crazy. Is absolutely crazy, man. What I'm

478
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going to check out your your books for sure, Indiana

479
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Bigfoot to Cavin Beyond, it's Edwina Cato Is that right?

480
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Speaker 4: Yes, apologus, No, that's my former name.

481
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,079
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, sure sure.

482
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Speaker 4: But yeah I wrote those back oh shortly after I

483
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started really having a lot of experiences. And I'm getting

484
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ready to bring both of the books together into one,

485
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and I'm going to kind of look back because now

486
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that I am out of that situation I was in

487
00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:47,640
with my ex it's like hindsight. I'm seeing now why

488
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,279
they acted the way they did whenever he was around.

489
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They didn't like him, and when he had experiences when

490
00:29:55,519 --> 00:30:00,359
he was on his own. They were always terrifying, and

491
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I just believe wholeheartedly they know the type of people

492
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we are. I don't believe they have just this incredible

493
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instinct when it comes to people. So yeah, I would

494
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be honored if you took a look at those. But

495
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you know, I'm not here to sell books. I just

496
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,920
love sharing the stories because I used to not be

497
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,400
a believer at all. I was one of those people

498
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,559
that thought Bigfoot believers were absolutely nuts until it happened,

499
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,440
and they're amazing beings, just incredible.

500
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Speaker 1: Thanks and it's life changing. Yes, and thank you for

501
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,119
coming up and sharing and hopefully, hopefully maybe we'll have

502
00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:48,240
another chat someday. It sounds like you have many different

503
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,440
things you've experienced, and that was probably just a small, small.

504
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:59,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, everything from the terrifying to hilarious, because they do

505
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:03,119
I always I always say, and I'll close with this

506
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is the messing with sasquatch commercials they used to have

507
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:12,039
on TV. Now it's it's the opposite, because they literally

508
00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:17,200
if they trust you, they will mess with you, especially

509
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:21,160
the juveniles. Because I had one drop out of a

510
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,079
tree right next to me one night and I nearly

511
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,279
jumped out of my skin while this little stinker ran

512
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,119
down the hill, and I, after being shocked, I laughed

513
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:36,559
about it because they are jokesters. Once they trust you.

514
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: A hundred percent, you hit it right on the head.

515
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:45,079
Speaker 1: But we will, we'll stay in touch on I'm going

516
00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:46,960
to make sure that I follow you on here. But

517
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,279
thank you so much for coming up, and you have

518
00:31:50,359 --> 00:31:52,440
a great rest of yours. I hopefully you can hang

519
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,680
out for a bit, but thank you.

520
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 4: I will absolutely thank you.

521
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: You got it.

522
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,519
Speaker 4: Bye bye.

523
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:00,359
Speaker 3: Oh.

524
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: It's such a great conversation. That area is wild. Nobody

525
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:12,799
knows about it. Just south of Indianapolis too, it's wild.

526
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Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

527
00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:18,519
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

528
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in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

529
00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:25,200
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

530
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,480
a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

531
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to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something

532
00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:34,960
strange down on the ground, or if you're with the

533
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FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled

534
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,839
upon something you're not allowed to talk about, and if

535
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you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's

536
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,079
heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If

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00:32:49,079 --> 00:32:52,720
you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

538
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or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

539
00:32:56,039 --> 00:32:59,440
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

540
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a biology just a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher

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00:33:03,079 --> 00:33:06,759
under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

542
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:09,759
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

543
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spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

544
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or if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or

545
00:33:17,119 --> 00:33:20,480
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

546
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:25,279
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

547
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You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

549
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:39,279
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

550
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We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

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you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

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Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

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bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

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And see you in the woods.