WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.879 Golf Smarter number four hundred and forty two from June 2 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:04.919 twenty fourth, twenty fourteen. 3 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:10.160 Welcome to Golf Smarter. Mulligan's your second chance to gain 4 00:00:10.240 --> 00:00:13.800 insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the 5 00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:19.839 Golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction Never gets Old. Our 6 00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:24.719 interview library features hundreds of hours of game improvement conversations 7 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:28.320 like this that are no longer available in any podcast app. 8 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:30.519 What target are into golf is about is helping a 9 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:35.600 person establish that visualization of the target as they're executing 10 00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:38.679 their action. So is that conscious mind is occupied with 11 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:42.200 the visualization of the target. That allows a non conscious 12 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:44.320 mind to swing a golf club, and it will do 13 00:00:44.479 --> 00:00:47.399 so because you're giving it a clear statement of intention. 14 00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:50.079 Your conscious mind has a clear picture of what it's 15 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:52.960 trying to achieve, and it allows a non conscious mind 16 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:56.399 to follow through. A non conscious mind cannot carry out 17 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:59.640 that action if you don't have a clear targeting mind. 18 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:03.280 And that's the reason why many people struggle with this 19 00:01:03.320 --> 00:01:07.159 concept of target orientation. Because they look at their target 20 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:10.120 threads but they don't see it. And because they don't 21 00:01:10.159 --> 00:01:12.879 see it when they look back at the ball, their 22 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:17.239 attentional focus shifts away from target onto the ball, onto 23 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:20.879 the takeaway, onto the water, onto the outer bounds, onto 24 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:24.040 whatever it chooses to jump in. It comes the focus 25 00:01:24.079 --> 00:01:26.719 of your attention at that time, and the non conscious 26 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:28.040 mind responds accordingly. 27 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:39.799 Target Oriented Golf with Colin Cromac. This is Golf Smarter. 28 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:43.120 Welcome back to the Golf Smarter podcast. Colin. 29 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:45.519 Good morning, Fred. I'm delighted to be here a game. 30 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:48.640 It has been a long time since the first time 31 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:52.200 you and I spoke, which was episode number one hundred 32 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:55.319 and thirty seven back in July of two. 33 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:55.840 Thousand and eight. 34 00:01:56.120 --> 00:02:00.519 So in six years time, I hope that you've done 35 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:04.719 a lot of changing to your method of teaching, but 36 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:09.280 maybe updated, perhaps, but I've been quoting it for the 37 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:10.680 six years. 38 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:13.159 Well, I thank you for that, bread and you'll be placed. 39 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:16.199 And you're pleased to know that my approach to golf 40 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:21.240 and my methods that I've developed haven't changed. They are 41 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:24.639 as consistent as today as they were six years ago. 42 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:29.439 But interestingly enough, I've developed a collaboration with a gentleman 43 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:33.159 in America called doctor Tony Paparo, and I would like 44 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:36.919 to take the opportunity to introduce his work as well 45 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:41.319 as mine Fred to give a refresher on target oriented 46 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:45.159 golf and hopefully give you the opportunity to maybe talk 47 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:47.680 to Dr Piparo with a follow up show. 48 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:50.759 Yeah, spell his last name for me, please. 49 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:53.400 Pip a R. 50 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:57.319 Okay, and does he have a website as well? 51 00:02:58.080 --> 00:02:59.879 Yes, it's found out mine. 52 00:02:59.840 --> 00:03:06.759 My mind, mastery golf dot com. Okay, we will look 53 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:10.879 into that absolutely. And as we're giving u ur ls, 54 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:14.400 let's give yours too real quick to get get this started. 55 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:18.000 Yep. My website is target oriented golf dot com. 56 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:22.039 Target oriented goolf dot com. All right, Well, now people 57 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:23.879 can listen and decide if they're going to go there 58 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:28.080 or not. But let's let's talk about where do you 59 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:32.360 want to start? Let me start, okay, because you know, 60 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:35.759 again it's been a long time since we spoke. I've 61 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:39.199 been talking about the four levels of competence for years, 62 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:41.800 always trying to figure out every time I say it, 63 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:43.240 I'm like, wait a minute, is that the order? 64 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:45.759 Did I get it? Is it you start with and 65 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:47.960 then to conscient and you got to move. 66 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:50.199 So we're going to get into the details of that 67 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:55.599 so you can really allow me to repeat it smoothly 68 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:56.560 and not screw it up. 69 00:03:56.599 --> 00:03:57.319 But I got it. 70 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:01.039 I got an email from a listener, John Pappas up 71 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:04.199 in Santa Rosa, California, and he says, Hey, Fred, please 72 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:05.840 bring back Colin Cromac. 73 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:07.719 He is onto something. 74 00:04:07.800 --> 00:04:12.439 His insight, golfer a cycle between conscious competence and conscious incompetence. 75 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:16.560 You're constantly dragging yourself back down to conscious incompetence. You 76 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:19.360 never give yourself a chance to play golf intuitively. That 77 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:22.240 was a quote from you, he says. And now what 78 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:25.800 John says is this was a big light bulb moment 79 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:28.439 for me. I've been playing golf for thirty years. For 80 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:31.160 the first ten years, from ages to eleven to twenty two, 81 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:35.720 I played intuitively unconscious competence down to a four handicap. 82 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:38.079 But for the last twenty years. 83 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:42.680 I've been dragging myself back down into conscious incompetence. Now 84 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:46.720 I'm a fifteen handicap. What a drag, he says. Here's 85 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:49.639 a list of teaching methods that I've tried, And when 86 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:53.639 I say tried, I mean I committed to each method 87 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:58.600 for one year at least one Ledbetter, two Stack Intilt, 88 00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:03.079 three Secret in the Mike May's right foot Inversion method four, 89 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:07.279 Sean Clement Wrecking Ball Method five, Martin Ayers Wound right 90 00:05:07.439 --> 00:05:11.120 Arm six, John Erics and Bradley Hughes Advanced ball Striking, 91 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:15.639 Flat Entry into Pack seven Shoemaker Fred Shoemaker Extraordinary Golf. 92 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:18.959 Even when I stopped focusing on technique and started using 93 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:23.000 Shoemaker's mental approach, I still approach the mental side as 94 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:29.319 a technique versus just simply unconscious competence. This is, for example, 95 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:31.439 Shoemaker's club throwing exercise as. 96 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:31.959 An eye opener. 97 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:34.279 So I started thinking about my swing as a throw, 98 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:38.120 my conscious mind was still paying attention to my body actions. 99 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:41.439 Shoemaker is a great coach, but he is still having 100 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:44.720 students focus their conscious minds on body awareness too much. 101 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:47.720 In my opinion. I know he wants us to focus 102 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:50.600 on the target or the club or the ball. 103 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:54.720 Something external, but students like me will still focus their 104 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:58.600 conscious mind on a body technique. That's why I'm excited 105 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:02.519 to learn more about in Chromac's target oriented Golf. I'm 106 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:09.800 really really exhausted from cycling between conscious competence and conscious incompetence. Lastly, 107 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:14.240 Collins question does the target create anxiety is a very 108 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:17.759 powerful question for me. The answer for me is no, 109 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:22.240 I find calm in the target versus always finding anxiety 110 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:25.319 by putting my conscious mind on my body actions. 111 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:29.240 Wow right, yeah, yeah, And. 112 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:32.839 I say that's not uncommon. I mean, at the end 113 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:35.720 of the day, John's gone through a process that many 114 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:40.639 other golfers have been through themselves, and it's his desire 115 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:45.279 to obviously improve in your golf. But the majority of 116 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:52.560 the time golfers spend their practice cycling between different methods 117 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:56.720 of learning how to swing off clubs. And now there 118 00:06:56.800 --> 00:07:01.360 is a very different psychological skill set that's required to 119 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:04.839 learn how to play Goldfread, because learning how to swim 120 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:11.920 you having your attentional focus on something to do with 121 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:17.000 a body part of body movement, and some coaches are 122 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:20.120 trying to move the attention away from the body onto 123 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:26.639 the club, but it still takes the individual's conscious mind 124 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:31.120 onto a control of their motor skills. Now, we don't 125 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:35.120 perform anything in our lives successfully, Fred, whilst we're consciously 126 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:40.560 trying to control our physical actions. So the key thing 127 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:45.480 about learning goal and any other life skill is we 128 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:50.639 actually have to shift our conscious mind away from this 129 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:54.560 motor skill so that the motor cortex in our brain, 130 00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:59.079 which ultimately has everything that we need to carry out 131 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:03.199 a motor skill. Once the skills have been developed, we 132 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:06.040 need to actually tap into that FRED. But we can't 133 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:08.959 tap into that because we spend all of our lives 134 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:12.759 being taught how to consciously try and control the motor skill. 135 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:17.680 So the individual or the golfer never gets that sense 136 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:19.800 of freedom in their golf game that they get in 137 00:08:19.879 --> 00:08:23.480 other aspects of their life, from riding a bike through 138 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:27.040 to driving a car, where we free the conscious mind. 139 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:31.519 So I'd like to just briefly introduce a concept to 140 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:36.519 your FRED which it introduces different states of the mind. 141 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:40.879 And it's important to understand this because if we don't 142 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:43.279 know where in the mind we're trying to improve a skill, 143 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:46.080 then it's very difficult to target what it is that 144 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:51.200 we're trying to improve. So you're obviously familiar with people 145 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:55.960 talking about the subconscious mind, and the subconscious mind FRED 146 00:08:56.720 --> 00:09:02.200 is basically whereby we develop ourself image and our belief systems. 147 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:06.000 They are acquired over a lifetime through our experiences and 148 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:09.120 through people talking to us and telling us things, and 149 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:11.960 we start to develop a belief system about who we 150 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:17.320 are in life now the subconscious mind is different to 151 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:21.639 the non conscious mind. The non conscious mind is that 152 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:25.840 part of the brain which is responsible for your motor skills. 153 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:30.440 So when you're an infant, when you're a child, for instance, 154 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:36.159 before you learn language. It's very interesting, Fred, but we 155 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:41.000 learn to walk as infants without actually having learned any 156 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:46.360 language at that time. So the conscious mind or the 157 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:52.000 cognitive process in the prefrontal cortex hasn't developed all right, 158 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:55.240 So we can't think our way through learning how to walk. 159 00:09:55.759 --> 00:10:01.080 We do that process by awareness, and there's often a 160 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:05.159 parent opposite to where we're trying to go, and we 161 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:09.600 stumble slowly towards that other parent, and through a series 162 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:14.440 of repetitious movements, we develop the motor skills for walking. 163 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:19.039 No conscious mind involved in this process, Fred, but we 164 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:23.480 learn to walk, and that skill of walking becomes adaptive. 165 00:10:23.639 --> 00:10:28.080 We learn to then crawl and run and skip, and. 166 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:30.480 Let's not forget Colin, that we also learned to fall, 167 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:38.159 which is actually incredibly important because you can't learn resiliency 168 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:39.279 if you haven't fallen over. 169 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:43.799 And it's all done though, Fred, without any conscious mind involved. 170 00:10:44.879 --> 00:10:48.440 What's through this process and this is really important to 171 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:54.799 understand in motor skills acquisition. We develop motor skills when 172 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:58.799 we keep the conscious mind out of the picture, because 173 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:02.200 the conscious mind, in essence, is something that we develop 174 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:06.879 through language and through thinking process, whereby we start to 175 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:11.039 actually give our selves a sense of direction through our 176 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:17.799 thinking process. But that thinking process isn't very adapt at 177 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:23.039 developing or controlling our body. It's not designed to control 178 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:27.200 the body. That's what the motor cortex is there for. 179 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:30.480 So what we have to do. You see, what happens 180 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:34.519 is when we start to become we learn language, we 181 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:37.000 start to learn a skill like riding a bike. Thread 182 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:40.639 Typically what happens is we've learned language at that time 183 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:42.960 and we start to sort of be very anxious when 184 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:45.559 we are learning to ride a bike, because we are 185 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:50.039 being taught how to control the pedals, and our focus 186 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:52.919 is on trying to control the bike at that time. 187 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:57.759 You see, But through a series of repetitious processes which 188 00:11:57.799 --> 00:12:01.919 are constrained by the instrument the bike, our attention naturally 189 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:06.759 shifts to the road ahead. So what's actually happening is 190 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:10.679 our conscious mind is being allowed to navigate to an 191 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:15.000 external focus. And once that happens, fred the external focus 192 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:19.159 allows the non conscious mind to take over the control 193 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:22.559 of the vehicle. The balancing of the vehicle, and the 194 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:27.639 movement of the pedals is all done non consciously, and 195 00:12:27.759 --> 00:12:30.679 you can take this process through any skill that you've 196 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:34.799 ever developed. When you learn to drive a car, initially 197 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:39.519 you're getting instruction, You're getting conscious instruction. You're trying to 198 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:44.120 consciously control the steering, changing the gear, changing the clutch, 199 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:48.679 and depressing the accelerator. You're really quite poor at this time, 200 00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:53.240 but again you're constrained by the vehicle. And once you 201 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:56.960 start allowing your attentional focus to shift to the road ahead, 202 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:02.120 your non conscious mind starts to take over the vehicle, 203 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:06.720 the control of the vehicle. So every situation that occurs 204 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:11.200 in life, we are allowed naturally to go to an 205 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:15.799 external focus. Fred, Is this all good? So the external 206 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:19.279 focus is the key thing. It allows us to pass 207 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:22.039 over the motor skill to the non conscious mind. 208 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:32.679 Is there a subtle difference between non conscious and unconscious 209 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:34.960 or is it a huge difference? 210 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:38.840 Well, this is the important thing forred. The unconscious mind 211 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:42.600 is another thing altogether. The unconscious mind is when you're asleep, 212 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:46.960 and when you're asleep, you're aware of the environment, but 213 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:50.279 you're not paying attention to anything other than what's going 214 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:53.360 on in the dreams. But the dream itself is not 215 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:57.039 something that you're in control of. But the key thing 216 00:13:57.159 --> 00:14:00.320 is Fred, is that the unconscious mind is very active. 217 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:04.080 It's very busy, and you're very aware of something that 218 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:07.039 you know in the room. Should should it, should it occur? 219 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:10.799 But typically you're not actively paying attention. It's only when 220 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:13.639 you wake up that the conscious mind sort of picks 221 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:16.840 into into action and you start thinking about the day ahead. 222 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:20.200 And so the conscious mind gives you the direction, it 223 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:22.919 gives you the intention for what you're going to spend 224 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:27.320 your life doing throughout the day. So you've got the 225 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:31.360 unconscious mind, which is obviously one aspect of your mind. 226 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:34.840 You've got the subconscious, which is where your belief systems 227 00:14:34.879 --> 00:14:38.120 and your self image is developed. You've got the non conscious, 228 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:41.159 which is responsible for the motor skills, and you've finally 229 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:43.440 got the captain of the ship, which happens to be 230 00:14:44.120 --> 00:14:48.159 the conscious mind. But the conscious mind gives the direction, 231 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:51.320 it doesn't carry out the action. It's not powerful enough, 232 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:54.919 it's not fast enough. So the reason why I'm explaining 233 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:58.039 these different states of mind, Fred, is that in research 234 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:04.320 in neuroscience that these minds they don't exist. They can 235 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:08.879 only research the brain, and so any mind is just 236 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:13.320 kind of an epi phenomenon of brain activity. They can't 237 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:18.080 describe the minds that I'm talking about. Now. There are 238 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:21.120 lots of people that work with the subconscious mind. They 239 00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:24.879 try and help people improve golf, for instance, by using 240 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:30.120 things like hypnosis and NLP, trying to change self image 241 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:35.519 and belief systems, which work by you shutting down for 242 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:37.879 a moment of conscious mind. You park it to one 243 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:41.919 side whilst you go in and implant new memories into 244 00:15:42.600 --> 00:15:45.960 the area for the subconscious mind. So what you're trying 245 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:49.559 to do, Fred is override what were dominant memories with 246 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:53.159 new memories. You know, we are purely memories. Everything we 247 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:58.960 you and I are that we experience are created from 248 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:03.360 experiences we've had and stored as memories. So if you've 249 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:06.720 got a bad memory that's preventing you from before meing, 250 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:10.039 it is possible to go in and replace that with 251 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:12.840 a much more empowering one. But it takes time, it 252 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:17.279 takes effort. But the point is Fred, changing subconscious patterns 253 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:22.759 doesn't change the motor skills, it doesn't change the non 254 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:25.879 unconscious skills that you're trying to develop. You see, the 255 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:29.879 non conscious mind in essence, Fred, once the motor skill 256 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:34.320 has been developed is perfect if we keep the conscious 257 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:37.159 mind away from it. Ahah. 258 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:40.559 And that's the big question, right, how do you do that? 259 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:46.840 You play target oriented golf? Well? 260 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:48.120 Did walk into that one? 261 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:50.879 Well? You know, this is the wayson why I've developed 262 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:55.080 the workfread. It takes time to understand the subject matter 263 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:57.639 and to go and a play in practice and in 264 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:01.360 your play. But people spend twenty years trying to learn 265 00:17:01.399 --> 00:17:03.840 how to swing a golf club. Why don't they try 266 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:06.519 and learn how to trust themselves to swing a golf 267 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:11.119 club when they've developed other skills in their lives successfully 268 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:13.720 by getting the conscious mind out of the picture. 269 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:17.480 But you're not really serious about why do they question 270 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:22.440 themselves on their mechanics because it doesn't go well every 271 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:26.000 single time you swing the club, so you're always questioning yourself. 272 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:29.519 Yeah, well that's the problem from the very first golf 273 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:32.880 lesson when the club is put into your hand and 274 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:35.519 you have your attention taken to how to grip the 275 00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:37.920 golf club, and you try and hit a golf ball 276 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:42.200 whilst your attention is internal and probably on the grip. 277 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:45.839 You hit a poor golf shot, you naturally attribute that 278 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:49.359 poor golf shot with something you're doing physically wrong. So 279 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:51.480 you spend a lot of time focusing on trying to 280 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:55.119 improve your grip whilst hitting golf balls. Once you've got 281 00:17:55.160 --> 00:17:58.599 your grip feeling right, but you're still hitting poor golf balls, 282 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:02.880 you then switch your attention to your stance or your posture, 283 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:07.079 or your takeaway or any other number of body parts. 284 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:10.079 And isn't that the point that there are so many 285 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:12.160 different things that can go wrong? How can you be 286 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:16.920 unconscious about it when you're trying to analyze and practice 287 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:20.240 awareness of where it is and what's going wrong. 288 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:24.200 Yeah, Well that's the point, Freddie, is that if you 289 00:18:24.279 --> 00:18:27.240 spend your life trying to develop the motor skill with 290 00:18:27.480 --> 00:18:31.039 that conscious thought process of trying to control that skill, 291 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:35.240 you'll never go to experience a trust in it. Now. 292 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:40.440 The reason why I mentioned my partner, doctor Tony Baparo, 293 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:44.039 was because he spent his life in research dedicated to 294 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:48.880 understanding attentional focus in relation to motor skills acquisition. And 295 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:52.480 what he's done is developed a golf coaching program that 296 00:18:52.599 --> 00:18:55.559 I believe every PGA coach and any golf coach out 297 00:18:55.559 --> 00:19:00.240 there should understand because what he's advocating Fred is that 298 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:03.160 whilst an individual is learning how to develop the motor 299 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:06.839 skills to swing a golf club, they need to be 300 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:11.920 keeping the conscious mind busy and occupied whilst moving into 301 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:16.440 the specific positions that the individual is trying to move into. 302 00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:21.839 Based on the coach is advice. So you know, you 303 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:24.640 might be aware of the concept of tim gorway and 304 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:27.440 in a game of golf where he advocates the concept 305 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:30.960 of back hit. The idea of this thread is that 306 00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:35.160 by saying something whilst you're moving the body, you're keeping 307 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:38.200 the conscious mind engaged so that it allows the non 308 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:42.200 conscious mind to move the body. You can't be attending 309 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:46.559 to the body if you're engaging the mind with that command. Now, 310 00:19:46.920 --> 00:19:50.000 what doctor Paparo has done has developed a very systematic 311 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:54.599 way of a golfer developing a golf swing without hitting 312 00:19:54.640 --> 00:19:58.279 golf balls. First of all, because you need to develop 313 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:01.920 the motor skills for swinging a golf club before you 314 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:04.440 actually start trying to apply it to a golf ball. 315 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:08.279 Because what happens is whilst you've got the golf ball there, 316 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:11.519 thread and you're trying to not only develop the motor skill, 317 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:14.319 you're reacting every time to where the golf ball's going. 318 00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:17.599 You're constantly doubting the fact that you're in the right position. 319 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:21.079 So your conscious mind is constantly switching to and from 320 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:25.720 different body parts and it's never there's never any control 321 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:30.279 over the attention. And that's what we're trying to explain 322 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:33.599 in our work, is that the attentional focus needs to 323 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:36.640 be controlled, not only out on the golf course when 324 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:40.279 you're trying to perform, but it needs to be controlled 325 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:44.279 whilst you're developing the motor skills for a golf swing, 326 00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:49.160 because without being aware of your attentional focus, the mind 327 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:53.000 is doing whatever it chooses to do wherever the individual 328 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:58.279 chooses to think. And consequently, when it comes to playing golf, 329 00:20:58.839 --> 00:21:02.759 if you spend your whole time I'm consciously practicing the 330 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:06.480 information that you're consciously being taught, you have no choice 331 00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:09.839 but to consciously play, and therefore you never get to 332 00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:12.640 that place where you're out there experiencing a trust in 333 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:16.039 the golf swing or the putting stroke that you would 334 00:21:16.119 --> 00:21:19.279 do in any other life skill. Let me tell you 335 00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:22.519 the importance of the target thread. If you and I 336 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:25.119 were to go out onto a park and we had 337 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:27.240 some balls in our hands, and we were simply I 338 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:30.920 was asking you to simply throw the ball at different targets. 339 00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:36.640 You intuitively would know how hard to throw the ball 340 00:21:36.759 --> 00:21:43.039 based on the target selection. Your attention would be always external, 341 00:21:43.440 --> 00:21:48.119 your mind would typically be quiet, and your non conscious 342 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:50.359 mind would be allowed to throw the ball. 343 00:21:50.519 --> 00:21:51.799 All right, Can I stop you right there? 344 00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:52.799 Go ahead? 345 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:56.400 All right, Let's take that analogy that you were bringing. 346 00:21:56.559 --> 00:21:59.119 Let's put it into say shooting a basketball. All right, 347 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:03.519 go ahead, There's there's the basket. Throw the basket. Throw 348 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:06.799 the ball up to the basket, and unconsciously I would think, okay, 349 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:09.839 I just I just need to do that right, just 350 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:11.799 this motion here and it'll go in. 351 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:13.200 But it doesn't go in. 352 00:22:14.279 --> 00:22:14.400 Right. 353 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:16.920 So, when I'm out on the driving ranger and you 354 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:19.559 and I are working out, and and we're just working 355 00:22:19.640 --> 00:22:22.559 on practicing my swing, I'm on the range. 356 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:26.680 When you're on the range, you there's nothing that can 357 00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:27.279 go wrong. 358 00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:31.279 Really, it's like there's no let's say, there's no consequences 359 00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:34.359 to something going wrong. But when you're about to take 360 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:38.359 a golf shot during a round of golf, that's I 361 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:40.240 guess when the doubt would would come in. 362 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:43.519 That's when you'd have problems, because then you go, if 363 00:22:43.599 --> 00:22:47.160 I don't get this right, there are consequences. 364 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:52.359 Yeah, but you're you're you're switching to a different aspect 365 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:55.519 of golf performance here, Fred, because you're starting to talk 366 00:22:55.599 --> 00:22:59.960 about the concept of psychological performance, whereby, if an individal 367 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:02.480 jaw is having all of these thoughts that you're talking about, 368 00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:06.440 then they haven't got a sense of control over what 369 00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:10.440 it is that they're trying to achieve. And paying is 370 00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:15.160 that those thoughts do occur because the individual hasn't developed 371 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:19.559 a very systematic way of guiding themselves through that period 372 00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:22.079 of time that I specialize in, which is that time 373 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:26.079 between stepping in and executing the golf shot. You see 374 00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:31.480 many people recognize that they try and break up the 375 00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:34.319 golf shot into this concept of a play a think 376 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:37.519 think box, and a playbox, whereby you're doing all of 377 00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:40.759 your strategizing and then you step behind the ball and 378 00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:45.480 then you stop the thinking and you just move into play. Unfortunately, Fred, 379 00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:49.799 you can't stop thinking. And that's the point is that 380 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:52.960 when you step into play your golf shot, the individual's 381 00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:56.400 intentional focus if it's not being controlled, introduces all of 382 00:23:56.440 --> 00:23:59.640 those other erroneous thoughts that you're talking about, and it's 383 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:02.839 that the fact that you're trying to stop thinking leaves 384 00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:07.039 you so vulnerable because you actually need to be really 385 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:10.599 focusing your attention during that period of time between stepping 386 00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:14.440 in and executing. That's when you really need to be concentrating, 387 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:18.680 not pretending that everybody's having a great time, because all 388 00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:22.200 you're doing is leaving yourself vulnerable to a situational event 389 00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:25.200 that comes in and destroys your ability to swing the 390 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:30.880 golf club. So, jumping back moment to that concept of 391 00:24:31.240 --> 00:24:35.480 throwing a basketball. Thread when you're throwing the basketball, you 392 00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:38.759 miss the shot, that's okay, you're not going to make 393 00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:40.920 it ever a shot. But the point is that your 394 00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:44.440 attention is naturally external. You're not thinking about how to 395 00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:49.640 throw the ball. You're not thinking about how to throw 396 00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:52.359 the ball. Your attention needs to be on the basket, 397 00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:59.039 on the target. Yeah. Now, the concept in golf of 398 00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:01.880 targeting is very important. It's something we need to talk 399 00:25:01.960 --> 00:25:05.880 about because there are many theories of golf instruction that 400 00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:08.440 suggests that you shouldn't have to pay attention to the 401 00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:13.319