1 00:00:03,399 --> 00:00:05,639 Speaker 1: What's up everybody, and welcome to It just means more 2 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:08,960 football and coffee. I am Rob Williams and this is 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,759 the first ever Craigliss show. And so while Craig was 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,640 able to hold it down for me all summer while 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,960 I was out, we're gonna hold it down for him 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,920 tonight as he is out a little bit busy. But 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,679 you can find me on social at Rob Williams GCP 8 00:00:22,879 --> 00:00:25,039 and at mcmichaeh seven if you want to look him 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,239 up as well. Tonight we have a very very special guest, 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,399 as we have Jake Crane from Crane and Co with 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,640 us tonight. You can find him at Jake Crane Underscore 12 00:00:32,719 --> 00:00:36,920 on X or just follow it at Crane Company. It's 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,880 really really a good opportunity for us to talk to 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,799 you specifically because of where we are in the college 15 00:00:42,799 --> 00:00:46,960 football layout. Just so you know, I know that our 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:51,119 show is relatively new, but we seek to kind of 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,600 create the vibe that we're the older, tired guys sipping 18 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,399 a cup of coffee for me another cup and let's 19 00:00:56,399 --> 00:00:59,799 talk ball. So we're strictly sec that's why it just 20 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,799 means more football and coffee. Jake, how's it going? It's 21 00:01:03,799 --> 00:01:07,280 a crazy, crazy week. But for you, yeah, what's going on? 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: Oh man, I mean it's a ton going on in 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,480 the sports world. I mean, you have signing Day on Wednesday, obviously, 24 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,239 the college football playoff reveal, we got the championship games 25 00:01:17,239 --> 00:01:21,840 this weekend, the NFL really starting the playoff pictures starting 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,879 to come into focus. So a little bit of everything 27 00:01:24,879 --> 00:01:27,840 in the in the sports world, and watching what the 28 00:01:27,879 --> 00:01:30,079 SEC is doing to the ACC right now and this 29 00:01:30,239 --> 00:01:34,359 SEC ACC challenge. It's just never thought I'd have to 30 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,519 ask myself the question is the SEC more dominant in 31 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:42,400 football or basketball? And I mean Joe Lenardi had twelve teams. 32 00:01:42,799 --> 00:01:45,200 I know, look, it's it's early. Lot lock can happen, 33 00:01:45,239 --> 00:01:48,879 but had twelve SEC teams making the NCAA tournament, which 34 00:01:48,959 --> 00:01:52,879 is just insane. If you grew up watching SEC hoops, 35 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:53,519 it is. 36 00:01:53,599 --> 00:01:56,519 Speaker 1: And I think that SEC baseball would also like to and. 37 00:01:56,599 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: Softball and Jim. 38 00:01:59,079 --> 00:02:01,719 Speaker 1: Into that argument. It really it really does. It really 39 00:02:01,799 --> 00:02:04,159 does mean more. And I think it's important for us 40 00:02:04,239 --> 00:02:08,800 as we look at this college football playoff rankings reveals. 41 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,960 As you said, as everybody said, this is the time 42 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,800 we get to use the word penultimate and so we're 43 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,599 going to use it. It's the penultimate rankings, and it's 44 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,719 exciting to see how things are unfolding, But to be 45 00:02:18,719 --> 00:02:22,520 honest with you, it seems extremely inconsistent on my end. 46 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,759 So every show in America has had this argument, right, 47 00:02:25,879 --> 00:02:28,400 should it be Alabama? Should it be South Carolina? Should 48 00:02:28,439 --> 00:02:31,159 it be Ole Miss? And then we get Miami wedged 49 00:02:31,159 --> 00:02:34,400 in between. We've spent a lot of time arguing about 50 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,759 the order. We can still argue about how they're going 51 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,599 to see the final order. Is it going to be 52 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,639 should Ohio State have gotten that home game edge over Tennessee? 53 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,719 And Ward manual says they're not going to move the 54 00:02:45,759 --> 00:02:47,840 teams that aren't playing, So it seems that those that 55 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,479 order is locked in place. My question is is more 56 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,039 one for us to zoom out because we can argue 57 00:02:54,039 --> 00:02:56,360 the specifics of this year up one side and down 58 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,039 the other about this team or that team, but it 59 00:02:59,039 --> 00:03:02,159 seems there's you know, there's nothing we can do about it. Ultimately, 60 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,000 the committee, it has all the power to make the decisions. 61 00:03:05,479 --> 00:03:08,479 What do you think the biggest issues are, if any, 62 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,000 with the current setup in the current structure of how 63 00:03:11,039 --> 00:03:12,960 the college football Playoff is being selected? 64 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,159 Speaker 2: Well, you know you said it earlier. I mean, the 65 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,479 inconsistency is the biggest problem. It's like I used to 66 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,639 tell my dbs. Look, if we're going to be all wrong, 67 00:03:23,759 --> 00:03:26,360 we're all right. If I call a coverage and all 68 00:03:26,479 --> 00:03:29,159 y'all run a different coverage, at least we're running something 69 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,439 sound and everybody knows what to do. So even if 70 00:03:31,479 --> 00:03:35,439 I disagree with how they, you know, go about it, 71 00:03:35,479 --> 00:03:39,319 if there's a consistent methodology to it, then I can 72 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,319 live with it. If you can explain it to me 73 00:03:41,479 --> 00:03:45,000 in terms that you know are logical and makes sense 74 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,759 and follows a certain pattern or metric, then I'm good 75 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,840 with it. The problem I have with our format is 76 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,280 that it's all subjective, when in my eyes, we could 77 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:00,000 have a beautiful blend of subjectivity and objectivity. Of continue 78 00:04:00,199 --> 00:04:03,360 to say that the perfect formula for me is to 79 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,800 combine a committee and a computer. What do I mean 80 00:04:05,879 --> 00:04:08,680 by that? You know you have twenty five percent of 81 00:04:08,719 --> 00:04:12,439 the pie is your strength of schedule. So you're incentivizing 82 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,759 teams to schedule strong non conference and then obviously the 83 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,199 better your conference is, the stronger your schedule is once 84 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,439 you get into conference place. So that's twenty five percent. 85 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,959 The other twenty five percent should be your win loss 86 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,319 record that should go into it. Wins and losses matter. 87 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,240 It's you know, we look at it now. We can 88 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,040 have arguments against ten and two and nine and three teams, 89 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,519 whether that nine and three teams should be ahead of 90 00:04:35,519 --> 00:04:37,199 that ten and two team, or that ten and two 91 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,079 team should be ahead of that nine and three team. 92 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,439 But I don't think you can argue against eleven and 93 00:04:41,519 --> 00:04:44,399 one verse nine and three. And that's something that I 94 00:04:44,439 --> 00:04:46,360 think the committee's done a good job of, but there's 95 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,959 not a objective way for them to measure it because 96 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,519 they don't tell us really what's in it. The other 97 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,160 twenty five percent, I think is scoring margin ours people 98 00:04:55,199 --> 00:04:58,279 like to say style points. And then the last twenty 99 00:04:58,319 --> 00:05:01,560 five percent can be subjective. You have a committee the 100 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,560 eye test who's playing well right now? You know, what 101 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,439 do you think personally about this team? And by having 102 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,360 the subjective part of it be twenty five percent, it's 103 00:05:10,399 --> 00:05:12,839 not enough to sway everything, but it could be enough 104 00:05:12,879 --> 00:05:15,720 to move a couple teams if the margins are really 105 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:18,480 tight and we have a scenario like we have now. 106 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:23,040 But the problem with what we have now is it 107 00:05:23,079 --> 00:05:27,279 opens the door to conspiracy theories, it opens the door 108 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,120 to controversy that they don't tell us the ingredients that 109 00:05:32,199 --> 00:05:34,480 go into the cake. And even when you look up 110 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,560 at the sports analytics company they use to determine strength 111 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,879 of schedule and some of these things they say, they 112 00:05:39,879 --> 00:05:42,480 don't make those numbers public, Like we're not asking where 113 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,920 the spies are in the Western Hemisphere, we're not asking 114 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,000 where the Chinese missile silos are. For you to tell 115 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,560 us that, we just want to know what the numbers 116 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,879 are that are going into this thing. And then they 117 00:05:53,959 --> 00:05:57,160 thow Ward Manuel out there, who every time he talks 118 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,279 it's like stopping to see a car wreck on the 119 00:05:59,319 --> 00:06:02,040 side of the inner state, because he's not a football 120 00:06:02,079 --> 00:06:04,680 guy enough to be able to articulate it well enough 121 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,560 for us to say, you know what, all right, I 122 00:06:07,639 --> 00:06:10,480 get it. You sold me over with what you said 123 00:06:10,519 --> 00:06:14,040 because the inconsistency every week, well, head to head matters, Well, 124 00:06:14,079 --> 00:06:15,800 then this week head to head doesn't matter as much 125 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,600 as you're playing better than this other team, and every 126 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,560 week it's different. So until we get some sort of objective, 127 00:06:23,199 --> 00:06:27,240 you know, majority mixed with that twenty five percent subjectiveness 128 00:06:27,519 --> 00:06:30,319 by guys who actually know football and love the sport. 129 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,079 I use this example today on Cranic Company. If something 130 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,879 is wrong with my kidneys, okay, and I need somebody 131 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,600 to use the eye test to go through it, I 132 00:06:39,639 --> 00:06:41,959 want it to be a doctor. I don't want it 133 00:06:41,959 --> 00:06:44,079 to be the guy who owns the hospital because he 134 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,879 owned the land the hospital was built on. That's not 135 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,319 your forte. I actually feel bad for word manual. Like 136 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,600 if if Neil deGrasse Tyson asked me to come up 137 00:06:52,639 --> 00:06:55,720 and explain why the moon controls the waves in the ocean, 138 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,720 I'm gonna have to give you some generic gobbly goop 139 00:06:58,959 --> 00:07:02,240 because I've got absolutely no idea how that works. That's 140 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,319 what it seems like ward Manuel does when he goes 141 00:07:04,319 --> 00:07:06,199 on there and talks as much as Reees Davis tries 142 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,920 to help him, and God Reeese tries. He tries to 143 00:07:08,959 --> 00:07:11,800 hold his hand and walk him through these things. But 144 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,800 it's either Ward Manuel can't say it because he's worried 145 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,560 about the backlash, or he can't say it because he 146 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,759 doesn't know it well enough to say it. So, you know, 147 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,040 that may be a long winded answer, but I want consistency. 148 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,959 I'm a simple guy. I'm a simple guy. If you 149 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,720 tell me what goes into the cake, I feel much 150 00:07:30,759 --> 00:07:32,560 better about eating it when it comes out of the oven. 151 00:07:32,839 --> 00:07:34,639 But if you don't tell me what goes in the cake, 152 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,680 I can't trust you. Like for example, I'm fine with 153 00:07:38,759 --> 00:07:41,759 Alabama being in. I think Alabama should be in when 154 00:07:41,759 --> 00:07:44,000 you look at Alabama, South Carolina and Old Miss. I 155 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,560 think the Alabama Old Miss argument's a harder one because 156 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,040 they didn't play head to head. But how do you 157 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,560 say that my Alabama should be in front of Miami, 158 00:07:53,079 --> 00:07:55,839 but South Carolina and Ole Miss shouldn't be in front 159 00:07:55,879 --> 00:07:58,879 of Miami. Either you put in Miami there and you 160 00:07:58,959 --> 00:08:02,120 put Bama, O Miss, South Carolina behind them, or you 161 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,839 put Bama Ole Miss, South Carolina or Bama South Carolina 162 00:08:05,879 --> 00:08:11,519 Ole Miss with Miami following them. So I just there's 163 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,519 no good explanation for it. It doesn't make sense. It's 164 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,600 almost like they said, you know what to avoid SEC bias, 165 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,720 let's just put Miami at twelve. So they can't say 166 00:08:22,759 --> 00:08:25,399 we put three SEC teams in a row, when if 167 00:08:25,439 --> 00:08:28,600 they were smart, they would realize if you did put 168 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,000 those three SEC teams in a row, and Bama's the 169 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,080 only one that got in that actually negates SEC bias 170 00:08:34,279 --> 00:08:36,559 because the first two out of the tournament are in 171 00:08:36,639 --> 00:08:41,559 the SEC. So again, look and the Tennessee, Ohio State, 172 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,320 who should host? Thing? I think there's logical, rational argument 173 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,440 on both sides of that. You could convince me either 174 00:08:46,639 --> 00:08:50,000 or of that. There's other instances before that where I 175 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,679 think it could go either way, but this is one 176 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,200 that I look at and it's the most important thing 177 00:08:55,279 --> 00:08:58,360 is who gets in. It's not where they are is important, 178 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,000 especially when you can get a boy and you can host, 179 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,840 or you have to go on the road. But without 180 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,159 a doubt, the most important thing is am I in 181 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:06,320 or am I not? 182 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: So speaking of the bye weeks, what's your position on 183 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,720 the bye weeks? Because personally, I don't have a problem 184 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,480 with some teams getting getting bye weeks, but the automatic 185 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,960 qualifiers for the conference champions jumping into those bye week 186 00:09:20,039 --> 00:09:24,320 spots is I understand what we were incentivizing, right. We 187 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,039 don't want to We don't want to see the conference 188 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,600 championships go to the wayside and teams be able to 189 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,559 walk away from those type of things and just say, oh, 190 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,120 we're just gonna rest our guys this week now, you're 191 00:09:35,159 --> 00:09:37,639 playing for that bye week, but what you're gonna get 192 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,080 is someone from either the G five or or the 193 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,960 Big twelve that is certainly not one of the top 194 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,559 four teams that's gonna get a buy and skate their 195 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,480 way over top of teams like like in Ohio State 196 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,519 or like a there. I even say, where does Notre 197 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,039 Dame fit into this conversation? And at what point do 198 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,200 we force them to comply? At some point? So I 199 00:09:59,279 --> 00:10:01,799 think I think I have two questions really here. One 200 00:10:01,879 --> 00:10:04,240 is the bye week situation, because I think it's gonna 201 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,639 get restructured, whether we go to fourteen sixteen or some 202 00:10:07,799 --> 00:10:14,000 other form. And what is the what is the match 203 00:10:14,399 --> 00:10:16,799 on the gasoline that causes Greg Sank you to say, 204 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,279 you know what, let's new the whole thing and start 205 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:20,840 from scratch. 206 00:10:21,399 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: Well, I think you would have to have multiple guys. 207 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,320 I think it would. It would have to be something 208 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,960 where Greg Sanky and Tony Petiti the SEC are the 209 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,399 Big ten. You know that they put their weight together. 210 00:10:31,919 --> 00:10:34,000 If I'm Tony Patiti, I don't want to change anything 211 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,639 with the way that it worked out this year. As 212 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,519 far as the byes and the automatic bids, I think 213 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:42,320 that's what you're asking me with the buyes. I do 214 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,840 think there's a simple solution that's a compromise between both parties. 215 00:10:46,279 --> 00:10:49,200 In a perfect world for me, I don't think that. 216 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,440 I think the top twelve teams should get in the 217 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,799 top four teams should get a bye. So you could 218 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,919 have two teams in the big You could have Oregon 219 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,440 and Ohio State if they finish for them, Yeah, like 220 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:06,440 they get a bye. 221 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: Like. 222 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,039 Speaker 2: I don't think it should be. If you win a 223 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,440 top four conference, you automatically get to buy nine and three. 224 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,559 Clemson if they beat SMU to make them ten and three, 225 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,279 shouldn't get a bye. That's that's not the way that 226 00:11:15,279 --> 00:11:17,360 should work. But if you're somebody that says, and my 227 00:11:17,399 --> 00:11:19,679 co host David Cohone, who raises some good points, it's 228 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,639 a good argument in debate, conference championship games need to matter. Well, 229 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,960 I think they can still matter. Why don't we just 230 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,679 say this, if you win one of your powerful conferences, 231 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,559 you get an automatic bid. Yep, Okay, it doesn't. That 232 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,440 doesn't mean you get a bye. That doesn't mean you're 233 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,600 a top four seed. And you know what, some of 234 00:11:37,639 --> 00:11:40,399 the top four seeds that get the buye are gonna 235 00:11:40,399 --> 00:11:43,559 win their conference championship game, so you really eliminate two 236 00:11:43,639 --> 00:11:45,399 birds with one stone. You don't have to give an 237 00:11:45,399 --> 00:11:48,039 extra automatic bid to somebody else. But if somebody like 238 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,320 Clemson who's nine to three does win, they automatically get it. 239 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,399 We already do that with the group of five. We 240 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,879 should just use that to replace it and the top 241 00:11:55,919 --> 00:11:58,480 twelve teams, which Boise would be in if we did 242 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,639 a top twelve team right now. With the way they 243 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,159 do it, I don't love the way they do it, 244 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,039 but why do we not say, look, here are the 245 00:12:04,039 --> 00:12:07,440 twelve best teams. The top four teams in this get 246 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,200 a bye if you are not one of the top 247 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,159 four teams or you're not in the top twelve, like 248 00:12:14,159 --> 00:12:16,960 if Clemson was thirteen or fourteen, and you win your 249 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,879 conference championship and you're a top four conference, you get 250 00:12:20,879 --> 00:12:25,159 an automatic bid into the College Football Playoff. Because the 251 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,039 bye isn't an automatic bid, you can still just have 252 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,840 four automatic bids and teams can get it. You can 253 00:12:31,919 --> 00:12:34,120 have a team that loses the conference championship that was 254 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,960 at one finish at four and still get a bye, 255 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,840 and the other team get an automatic bid and be 256 00:12:38,879 --> 00:12:41,320 in there. So I think that's kind of the middle 257 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,039 ground or the compromise we could have where conference championship 258 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,519 games still matter, right, but that doesn't necessarily mean that 259 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,960 you get a bye if you win one of those 260 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,279 conference championship games in the top four conferences, because think 261 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,360 about it. If or again our Penn State win, they 262 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:01,559 would finish in the top four. If Texas or Georgia win, 263 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,879 they would finish in the top four. You look at 264 00:13:04,879 --> 00:13:07,879 the big twelve in the ACC. If SMU wins their conference, 265 00:13:08,399 --> 00:13:11,519 decent chance they could maybe move up, But if they 266 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,080 don't deserve to move up, then they don't get the bye, 267 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,320 but they're automatically in. I think it's a pretty easy solution. 268 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,399 Speaker 1: Is there a world and I know that there's been 269 00:13:21,879 --> 00:13:28,200 lofty dreams and aspirations and you know, different plans that 270 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,840 have been put forth, But is there a world where 271 00:13:29,879 --> 00:13:32,000 we get a central governing body in the next decade 272 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,120 and this looks completely completely different and it truly looks 273 00:13:35,159 --> 00:13:36,039 like an NFL model. 274 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,639 Speaker 2: Well, I think when this breaks off into a super league, 275 00:13:39,639 --> 00:13:42,519 which is going to happen now, the amount of teams 276 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,600 in that super league is it fifty five, is it 277 00:13:44,639 --> 00:13:47,159 fifty because I think there's some teams and we've seen 278 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,200 a lot of movement up right like Cincinnati and Houston, 279 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,039 and we're seeing it right now where there's some group 280 00:13:53,039 --> 00:13:55,000 of five teams that should be Power four teams, and 281 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,840 there's some Power four teams that should be group of 282 00:13:56,879 --> 00:13:59,360 five teams. So to me, that's the most interesting part 283 00:13:59,639 --> 00:14:02,399 of when that breakaway happens. Who's going to be Memphis 284 00:14:02,399 --> 00:14:04,440 should be in the power for with the money they 285 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,600 have and the talent they have. You look at FedEx 286 00:14:06,639 --> 00:14:09,320 behind them, somebody like Wake for us. I don't know, 287 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:13,440 like I should you be power for So as far 288 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,279 as a centralized governing body, the way I view it 289 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,120 is like this, even if they break off into this 290 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,639 super league, what incentive would they have to change the 291 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,000 committee because it's not like they're losing money. This ain't 292 00:14:28,039 --> 00:14:31,080 the NBA. They're making more and more money every year. 293 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,440 Viewership is at an all time high with nil which 294 00:14:34,519 --> 00:14:37,039 I'm a fan of when it has regulations, but it's 295 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,080 not and you probably can't get them now until we 296 00:14:39,159 --> 00:14:41,399 break off into a super league where you have to 297 00:14:41,399 --> 00:14:43,320 sign up to play in that league and abide by 298 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,240 those rules to transfer portal where there are no guidelines. 299 00:14:46,279 --> 00:14:49,279 We've had all these changes, guys play in eighteen years 300 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,440 because of COVID. We've had all these changes, we have 301 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:57,000 all this controversy with this committee. Yet the money keeps doubling, 302 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:02,279 the viewership keeps increasing. So if I'm in control of this, 303 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,120 and I can control what brands get in and what 304 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,200 brands don't, and I'm making more money and I'm more 305 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,480 popular than ever, what incentive do I have to change 306 00:15:12,519 --> 00:15:16,159 anything structurally that I'm doing. Right? If I can sell 307 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,200 you a double cheeseburger that costs me a dollar fifty 308 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,480 to make and it's made with awful ingredients, that's terrible 309 00:15:22,519 --> 00:15:25,080 for you, but you'll buy it for five bucks and 310 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,399 you keep buying more and more of them, why in 311 00:15:27,519 --> 00:15:30,240 God's name would I pay more to make it more equality? 312 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,480 So I think that's kind of where we're at. 313 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: Yep, that I kind of agree with you. It's like 314 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,159 every every media outlet, every person who has a show 315 00:15:40,279 --> 00:15:45,080 like me and you, we're talking along these lines, and 316 00:15:45,639 --> 00:15:50,840 I hear it from different outlets where the gripe is different, 317 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,799 the positioning is different. This person's arguing for Miami. This 318 00:15:54,799 --> 00:15:57,919 person's arguing for Alabama, this person's arguing for Ole miss 319 00:15:58,159 --> 00:16:00,480 this person's arguing for SMU to get in they lose, 320 00:16:00,559 --> 00:16:02,679 or not get in if they lose, or whatever the 321 00:16:02,679 --> 00:16:05,720 case may be. But the centralized thing that everybody says 322 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,879 is that the committee and the inconsistencies of the committee 323 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,480 and this human model that brings so much bias and 324 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:15,159 flaw is an issue. But it still all comes back 325 00:16:15,159 --> 00:16:17,720 to what you just said, because even the people who 326 00:16:17,759 --> 00:16:21,080 willed the most influence, like yourself, who have a national audience, 327 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,480 who have the ear of so many people, it's only 328 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,720 going to move the needle so far when the money 329 00:16:26,759 --> 00:16:29,279 is still rolling in. And I think that's yeah, money 330 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,320 tell you it doesn't matter how much we can complain 331 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,799 about it or point out that it's an extremely flawed system. 332 00:16:34,759 --> 00:16:36,639 Speaker 2: Well yeah, and I mean that's why, like you look 333 00:16:36,679 --> 00:16:39,200 at at some networks and these people go on there 334 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,000 and say these crazy things, and you're watching it, you're like, 335 00:16:43,039 --> 00:16:46,879 how how can this person be on this network and 336 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,200 say these crazy things? Yet that network is making a 337 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:56,000 ton of money, So it's almost like they're encouraging because look, look, 338 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:02,240 every consistency is boring. Right. Well, I think another thing 339 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,319 is they look and they're like, you know, well, if 340 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,079 we had this pattern that was consistent and you knew 341 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,079 what was gonna happen, would it be as popular? Would 342 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:13,359 people would there be this outrage over over you know, 343 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,160 who got in here and who got in there when 344 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,279 you can point to numbers and metrics and say, oh, well, 345 00:17:18,519 --> 00:17:20,680 we know how this is going to play out. I 346 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,240 think it comes down to are you in the business 347 00:17:23,759 --> 00:17:27,799 of causing outrage for clicks and views and the other stuff, 348 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,839 or are you in the business of you love the 349 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,200 sport and you want what's best for the sport. Where 350 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,160 I land is I love the sport and I want 351 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,880 what's best for the sport because I think college football 352 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:42,119 is so ingrained and so incredibly popular that you couldn't 353 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,960 hurt it. Just like if you do crazy things, people 354 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,440 are going to watch if there's a method to the madness. 355 00:17:47,519 --> 00:17:49,839 I think people are going to watch because the on 356 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,680 the field product has never been better than it is 357 00:17:53,759 --> 00:17:56,640 right now. And if that's the case, you're going to 358 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,000 continue to see the numbers grow because that's what people 359 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,759 care about most, and it's the games. So that's the 360 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,000 the camp that I've fallen. 361 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,079 Speaker 1: I think my only pushback on consistency is boring. I 362 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,960 agree with you to an extent, but the NFL is 363 00:18:11,559 --> 00:18:14,160 built for that parody and built for those consistencies in 364 00:18:14,279 --> 00:18:16,359 terms of you know, who's going to get into the 365 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,000 playoff each year based on who wins the division, who 366 00:18:19,039 --> 00:18:20,160 has the best record that's going to. 367 00:18:20,079 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 2: Get It's a great example that I love that we 368 00:18:23,319 --> 00:18:25,720 agree that. That's what I'm saying, like the NFL. When 369 00:18:25,799 --> 00:18:28,359 was the only time the NFL took a hit when 370 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:34,279 they got political? Overtly political? That is That is viewership fentanyl. 371 00:18:34,559 --> 00:18:36,400 It's what it is. If you get over and look, 372 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,039 we do a sports show for the Daily Wire, but 373 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:43,279 you won't hear anything about me talking about immigration are vaccines. 374 00:18:43,599 --> 00:18:46,319 The only immigration I'm worried about is the transfer portal. 375 00:18:46,519 --> 00:18:49,160 The only vaccine I'm worried about is if they're ever 376 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,000 gonna call targeting on an offensive player when they put 377 00:18:52,039 --> 00:18:55,680 their head down. So I think, look, people, we love football. 378 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,440 It's our gladiator sport, right, So it's gonna as much 379 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,559 as they try bubble wrap it, but at the end 380 00:19:02,599 --> 00:19:05,519 of the day, on the field, play I think speaks 381 00:19:05,519 --> 00:19:08,759 for itself. We need a consistent model because it's too important. 382 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,880 It's too important to screw up like this. 383 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,519 Speaker 1: Sure, Okay, So Craig and I right for an outlet 384 00:19:14,519 --> 00:19:17,279 called last Word on Sports, and so as an ode 385 00:19:17,319 --> 00:19:18,640 to that, at the end of the show, every week 386 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,920 we do something called the last Word, and so on 387 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,440 this week's last Word, I'm gonna give you just a 388 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,480 second to let us know if the field lands as 389 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,880 it is now. So let's say, for kicks and giggles, 390 00:19:29,599 --> 00:19:32,599 that SMU beats Clemson and everything falls pretty much as 391 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,160 it stands. Who's your dark horse? We know who some 392 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,119 of the favorites are gonna be. Who's the team that 393 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,559 you think maybe makes a run that people aren't talking 394 00:19:41,559 --> 00:19:42,359 about as much? 395 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,319 Speaker 2: I would say dark horse, And it's funny because they're 396 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,880 in the top four, but people talk about them like 397 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,640 they're not. Is Penn State. And for the reason of 398 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,079 Penn State's biggest test came against Ohio State at home, 399 00:19:57,759 --> 00:20:00,279 and they brought in Andy kotal Nikki to come in 400 00:20:00,319 --> 00:20:04,000 from Kansas's voc And before that game, even starting with 401 00:20:04,039 --> 00:20:08,039 West Virginia, the offense looked more creative. They were taking 402 00:20:08,039 --> 00:20:11,599 shots down the field. Drew Aller was blossoming. Then in 403 00:20:11,599 --> 00:20:13,720 the Ohio State game, they got up ten to nothing 404 00:20:13,759 --> 00:20:16,880 because of an early pick six, and they reverted back 405 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,759 to the old Penn State where they just tried to 406 00:20:18,799 --> 00:20:20,839 take the air out of the ball and make it 407 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,240 ugly and just not screw it up. I don't think 408 00:20:24,279 --> 00:20:26,880 they're gonna make that mistake again, And if they open 409 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,240 it up, I think Penn State is talented enough defensively 410 00:20:30,279 --> 00:20:33,599 in the front seven, and they have enough pieces offensively 411 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,759 to be able to win the whole thing. I really 412 00:20:35,759 --> 00:20:38,160 believe that. I think a great test if they're gonna 413 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,119 get back to that is whether or not they do 414 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,599 that against Oregon this weekend. 415 00:20:42,519 --> 00:20:45,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that I was gonna say the same 416 00:20:45,319 --> 00:20:47,640 as far as the championship game this weekend. I think 417 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,519 that what they do against Oregon is gonna tell us 418 00:20:49,519 --> 00:20:52,279 a lot about what they're sealing. Is because the knock 419 00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:54,599 on James Franklins obviously that he can't win the big game. 420 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,079 We'll see what happens, right, if he can pull something 421 00:20:57,079 --> 00:20:59,119 off and he's still a little bit of confidence. We 422 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,599 both know that ball is played a lot more here 423 00:21:01,759 --> 00:21:04,599 in the mind, just as much as it is played 424 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,359 outwardly on the field, and so if you go into 425 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,519 the game confident it can make a huge difference in 426 00:21:08,799 --> 00:21:11,079 how it goes. Thanks a lot. I really appreciate you, Jake. 427 00:21:11,079 --> 00:21:13,680 Thanks so much for being with us today. Man, always 428 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,079 listening in if you guys want to listen Monday through 429 00:21:16,079 --> 00:21:19,680 Friday at three on a daily wire Crane and Company. 430 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,480 We love listening to you, we love listening to your thoughts, 431 00:21:22,519 --> 00:21:24,079 and I'm just thankful that you be able to come 432 00:21:24,079 --> 00:21:26,039 on and talk to us tonight. We'll see what happens. 433 00:21:26,039 --> 00:21:27,559 Thanks to God, of course. 434 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: Rob. I'm going to bring a cup of coffee next time. 435 00:21:30,279 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I didn't ask you that we start every 436 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,440 show with that. But it's late at night, so I 437 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,200 wasn't expecting you to necessarily have a coffee in your cup. 438 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,559 If you have a drink and you're getting ready to 439 00:21:40,559 --> 00:21:43,160 watch the Alburn and Duke game as we're recording here, 440 00:21:43,799 --> 00:21:46,839 I hope you're enjoying it and maybe you'll see a 441 00:21:46,839 --> 00:21:47,880 big one for your tigers. 442 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,319 Speaker 2: Hey, we'll see, man, we'll see. It's a long season. 443 00:21:50,319 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, Rob, Yeah, we'll see you all right, Okay, 444 00:21:56,279 --> 00:21:59,839 welcome back to It just means more football and coffee again. 445 00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:03,240 I'm Rob Williams. What an incredible time talking to Jake 446 00:22:03,319 --> 00:22:07,119 Crane reacting to the College Football Playoff penultimate rankings as 447 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,200 we look forward to College Championship weekend and everything breaking 448 00:22:11,279 --> 00:22:14,519 loose in terms of setting up the first ever twelve 449 00:22:14,599 --> 00:22:20,960 team college Football Playoff. Really great conversation, just zooming back 450 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:23,079 and looking at the big picture. I want to zoom 451 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,599 back in at this point and just talk about some 452 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,000 of the inconsistencies that we see. Head to head does 453 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,279 matter or does it not matter? We have Alabama ranked 454 00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:37,079 ahead of South Carolina, Ole Miss ranked ahead of South Carolina. 455 00:22:37,279 --> 00:22:39,920 I think that there are positive arguments for both of 456 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,680 those things to be true, but there's also an argument 457 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,640 for South Carolina to be ranked ahead of both of 458 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,759 those teams. And the problem is that by putting Alabama 459 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,240 and Ole Miss ahead of South Carolina, you've stated that 460 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:59,279 head to head is the primary criteria for ranking these teams. However, 461 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,799 earlier in the season, you have a Tennessee team who 462 00:23:01,839 --> 00:23:05,200 beat an Alabama team and has the same record ranked 463 00:23:05,559 --> 00:23:08,839 behind Alabama. You have South Carolina up ahead of an 464 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,119 LSU team that they went down to when the records 465 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,400 were the same at that point in the season, and 466 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,519 the statement from Ward manual is South Carolina's moving in 467 00:23:19,559 --> 00:23:21,759 a different direction than this LSU team is we see 468 00:23:21,759 --> 00:23:24,960 them moving forward. So the inconsistencies are crazy. We can 469 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,279 go on and on and on and name the things 470 00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:32,880 that we see the committee doing that are just incredibly inconsistent. 471 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,920 So it's my opinion that it's time to blow it up. 472 00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:40,519 It's time to get rid of people completely in this process. 473 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,200 I think that Jake put forth a great plan. As 474 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,480 we listen to him talk about wins and losses, as 475 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,880 we listen to him talk about even style points, and 476 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,519 we definitely listen to them talk about strength of schedule 477 00:23:51,839 --> 00:23:54,640 and how we can incorporate computers. If Craig was here, 478 00:23:54,799 --> 00:23:58,279 he would say, do one third BCS computer style, one 479 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,319 third AI making sense of the numbers, and then one 480 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,200 third a committee coming in. I don't want to even 481 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,000 see that. I'm ready for the NFL style. I'm ready 482 00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:10,720 for these teams to break off and to form a 483 00:24:10,759 --> 00:24:18,559 super league where we have clear cut rules, outlines, guidelines, 484 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,599 whatever we want to call them, that show us how 485 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,000 you win a division of some sort and you make 486 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:29,519 it into the College Football Playoff. There can easily be 487 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,039 wild cards or at large or whatever we want to 488 00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:35,759 call them, because in this super league, teams will be 489 00:24:35,799 --> 00:24:40,079 playing by the same standards. Now, the question comes up, 490 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,039 if we create a super league, what is the trickle 491 00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:46,000 down effect? Because we're gonna pull out the Big Ten 492 00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:48,680 and the SEC teams, Jake points out, are there teams 493 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,400 that need to fall out of those conferences that maybe 494 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,400 don't belong in the Power for maybe they don't belong 495 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,400 in this super league. But we're also gonna pull up 496 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,880 other teams. There are teams from the ACC, like Clemson. 497 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,960 There are teams from perhaps the Big Twelve that would 498 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,559 get a look. So the super League can't just consist 499 00:25:11,759 --> 00:25:14,799 of the thirty four teams that make up the Big 500 00:25:14,839 --> 00:25:16,759 Ten in the SEC. There will have to be other 501 00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:19,279 teams that come along with them to make make up 502 00:25:19,319 --> 00:25:21,119 that league. And then you're gonna have to divide those 503 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,359 teams out, and we're gonna have to create something called divisions, 504 00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:27,920 which the Big Ten and SEC and the Big Twelve 505 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,319 have gone away from, the AC ACC has gone away from, 506 00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:35,079 so we don't have these divisions, and that has created 507 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,200 a major problem. A good friend of the show, J. C. Sherbert, 508 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,240 pointed out today on another show, I was listening to that. 509 00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:43,279 The model in the SEC is going to be the 510 00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:45,680 one seven model, and the luck of the draw of 511 00:25:45,759 --> 00:25:49,359 what seven teams you get on your SEC schedule in 512 00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:52,240 this current structure is going to determine which teams make 513 00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:55,519 or miss the college football Playoff, because if you get 514 00:25:55,559 --> 00:25:59,640 a lucky draw like Texas did, then you're gonna have 515 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,720 a much which is your path if you have a 516 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:06,599 good team. If you get a difficult draw like Georgia 517 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,960 did or like Oklahoma did, you can see the variants 518 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,599 in the roster. That strength of schedule causes you to 519 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,920 fall a couple of times like Georgia or to five 520 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,680 hundred like Oklahoma. So we've got to get out of 521 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,400 that being the determining factor. And I think in a 522 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,279 super league you can mix and match these teams and divisions. 523 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,920 You can shake the divisions from year to year and 524 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,880 ultimately it comes out to be fair. I'll go back 525 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,839 to the NFL as a Patriots fan, and I can 526 00:26:39,839 --> 00:26:43,039 state my fandom in the NFL very clearly on this podcast, 527 00:26:43,079 --> 00:26:45,480 because this is an SEC football podcast, So it doesn't 528 00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:47,480 matter what team I pull for in the NFL as 529 00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:51,119 a Patriots fan, we and I say we as a fan, 530 00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:53,880 as a fan of you know, twenty five years of 531 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,960 the New England Patriots, watching them with six rings, six 532 00:26:57,039 --> 00:27:00,960 Super Bowl Trophies, six Lombardes in the case the goat 533 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:06,599 Tom Brady leading them to these championships. But they had 534 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,279 a week division. They had a week division. You know, Miami, 535 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,640 the Jets, the Bills. Historically, over the past twenty five years, 536 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,559 we've seen the rise of the Bills as of late. 537 00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:21,640 We've seen the Dolphins be a little more competitive as 538 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,160 of late. We've seen the Jets well bring in some 539 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,160 big names. But what we have not seen is the 540 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,160 AFC East be a powerhouse for a long time. And 541 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,759 so the tom Brady beat the Bills thirty three times 542 00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:39,079 in a row. It was just not a very competitive division. 543 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,000 So you knew you were going to have cooked in 544 00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:44,880 six games against opponents that were quote unquote lesser than 545 00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:48,319 That's going to happen in the Super League in college 546 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:53,559 football as well. But everything is cyclical. Look at the 547 00:27:53,559 --> 00:28:01,640 Patriots now, the greatest franchise in professional sports for two decades, 548 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,720 not gonna make the playoffs, had a number three pick 549 00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:09,200 last year and is in the running for number one 550 00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:13,440 again this year. At the bottom of the barrel. Look 551 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,160 at the division, who was the worst team for years 552 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,119 and years the bills. 553 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:18,799 Speaker 2: They've cycled up. 554 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,559 Speaker 1: The NFL has set up for that. And in a 555 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:27,319 world like college football, where fan bases are loyal, they 556 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,319 spend a lot of money, they spend a lot of time. 557 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,160 They have stuck it out for generations. It is not 558 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,920 the time to continue to make the rich richer and 559 00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:42,680 to feed into big brands just because it's going to 560 00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:46,039 make a little more money for the network. The network 561 00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:48,880 will make just as much money if we create a 562 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:54,039 super league and parody comes into play. Alabama fans are 563 00:28:54,079 --> 00:28:58,519 spoiled by their success. They will soon learn that because 564 00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:01,400 Nick Saban is gone and what they have witnessed is 565 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,559 an unprecedented run, that although they may still be one 566 00:29:04,599 --> 00:29:06,480 of the top programs in the country and they may 567 00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:11,400 experience lots of success, they will not experience the level 568 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,440 of success that they experience under Nick Saban. It's impossible. 569 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,440 We won't see that again in our lifetime from Alabama 570 00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:22,680 or any other franchise. So they'll survive. 571 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: They'll still buy. 572 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,799 Speaker 1: Their tickets, they'll still tune in, they'll still be watching, 573 00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:31,079 they'll still attend games, they'll still travel to playoff games 574 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,200 in Tuscaloosa or across the country, even if they're not elite. 575 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,839 It's time to blow it up. It's time to get 576 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,200 rid of humans. It's time to get rid of bias. 577 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,279 It's time to get rid of subjectivity. It's time to 578 00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:50,799 get rid of the debates. The debates are bringing eyeballs, 579 00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:56,160 they're getting clicks. Dare I say, they're making money, but 580 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,519 they're not any fun for any of us. Teams at 581 00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,720 the top have to be tired of hearing the whining 582 00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:07,400 and complaining of fan bases, the bickering back and forth. 583 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:13,359 Let us get the real best teams into the playoff. 584 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: We need to see the twelve. 585 00:30:16,079 --> 00:30:20,079 Speaker 1: Best teams, the fourteen best teams, the sixteen best teams, 586 00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:22,960 whatever we're gonna end up going to. And the only 587 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,319 way we can do that is to get rid of 588 00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:28,839 these conferences that are in no way, shape or form comparable. 589 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,680 We use the term power flour over and over and 590 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,079 over again, and the power four does not exist. There's 591 00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:38,720 really a power one. But I'm going to throw the 592 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,640 Big ten a bone and give us a power two, 593 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,279 the Big twelve. In terms of strength of schedule, the 594 00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:48,839 acc in terms of strength of schedule, can come nowhere 595 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,480 close to what the SEC and the Big Ten have 596 00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:55,680 to offer. And to that point, if we look at 597 00:30:56,839 --> 00:31:01,799 teams in the Big Ten, you've got you've got powerhouses 598 00:31:02,279 --> 00:31:06,599 I'm using air quotes like Penn State. You've got up 599 00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:16,359 and comers like Indiana, whose schedules this year featured one 600 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:23,920 ranked opponent one one ranked opponent, and in the case 601 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:32,240 of Indiana, you lost that game. Let's take a look 602 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:37,160 at Penn State. Let's see what ranked matchups they had. 603 00:31:39,319 --> 00:31:48,119 Illinois that's a win, Ohio State that's a loss. So 604 00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:51,920 excuse me, I'll correct myself. Two ranked matchups one and 605 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,359 one only two opportunities. We're not talking top ten teams. 606 00:31:57,319 --> 00:32:01,680 We're talking top twenty five ranked team two on the 607 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,319 schedule for Penn State in the Big Ten championship game. 608 00:32:05,599 --> 00:32:08,920 You heard it, Jake Crane's darkhoyd dark horse. In the 609 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,559 college football playoffs, we can get rid of these soft 610 00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:17,960 conferences that don't offer any competition week in and week out. 611 00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:21,519 We could say the same thing about Texas in the SEC, 612 00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:23,680 and that goes back to the one seven model. They 613 00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:26,279 got They got a lucky draw, just like Indiana got 614 00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:29,359 a lucky draw, just like Tennessee got a lucky draw. 615 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:36,920 Then you have teams like Alabama, who has all the 616 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,839 bias in the world working for them, all the brand 617 00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:42,440 recognition in the world working for them, but they also 618 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,480 have working for them their strength of schedule and how 619 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,319 they performed against top ranked teams. Look at Georgia's schedule 620 00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:54,759 this year. Nothing comes close to the ranked matchups that 621 00:32:54,799 --> 00:33:01,240 they had Georgia. Georgia should be the number two team 622 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,119 in the country right now if we really look at 623 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,559 what they've done and who they've done it against. I 624 00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:12,400 can't take anything away from Oregon because they're undefeated and 625 00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:15,480 ultimately something has to be said for winning every single game. 626 00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:18,680 But what's gonna happen, and Shane Beemer said it today 627 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,880 in this press conference, is that non conference games that 628 00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:27,160 offer competition are going to start to be canceled. Coaches 629 00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:30,000 and ads are going to start to take a long 630 00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:32,519 and hard look at who it is that they're putting 631 00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:37,400 on the schedule, because it doesn't matter who you lose 632 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,960 to as long as you win the games in front 633 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,359 of you. This committee has shown that in the current structure, 634 00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:47,640 you're going to get in So that's where we are. 635 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:57,319 This is where we're looking at. We include subjectivity and 636 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:05,359 bias and inconsistency, or we create the NFL light, which 637 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,839 is where college football has been trending for a long time. 638 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:11,719 We're already on the slope, We're already sliding there. We're 639 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,039 going to get a super league. We're going to have 640 00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:16,800 a governing body in the center of this thing. It 641 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,840 is very likely that Greg Sankee is going to be 642 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,599 in the center of that. Why are we prolonging the process. 643 00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:29,039 Let's get it done. This has been It just means 644 00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:32,280 more football and coffee. I know you'll be thankful to 645 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,159 have Craig back next time. So it's not just me 646 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:39,880 screaming at my microphone. Maybe I'm a little fired up. 647 00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:43,519 But now it's time to see who the best conference 648 00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:44,400 in the country. 649 00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:47,519 Speaker 2: Really is, because we have a few little. 650 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,159 Speaker 1: Championship games left and then we'll get the final rankings 651 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,360 and soon, my friends, as I sit here on December 652 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:05,719 the fourth, two thousand twenty four, we are but two 653 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:11,840 weeks and two days away from the first ever playoff 654 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,599 game in a college football twelve team playoff. And then 655 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,360 then all bets are off and we'll see which conference 656 00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:26,559 really does reign supreme For us here, it just means 657 00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:31,880 more football and coffee. For me, this playoff is more 658 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,239 about conference versus conference than it is about team versus team. 659 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,320 So if the committee will allow us not to have 660 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,199 conferences eliminate themselves by giving SEC on SEC and Big 661 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,440 Ten on Big Ten matchups in the first round, We're 662 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,320 gonna figure this thing out and then we'll see who 663 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,440 has the bragging rights. Then we'll see where it just 664 00:35:53,559 --> 00:35:57,880 means more. I'm Rob Williams at Rob Williams GCP on 665 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,360 all platforms, at me Micah seven. To find Craig, you 666 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,800 can find us on grid Iron Coast on x College 667 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,639 grid Iron Coast to Coast is the network, on Apple 668 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,039 podcast and on Spotify. If you want to look us up, 669 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,880 Listen to our show, Listen to our network shows, the 670 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,719 family of shows that we have here at College Gridiron 671 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,440 Coast to Coast catch up on everything college football heading 672 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,679 into Championship weekend. Thanks again to Jake Crane. Go check 673 00:36:23,679 --> 00:36:26,119 out Crane and Company Monday through Friday at three o'clock 674 00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:31,800 on all of their platforms as well. It's been a 675 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,440 great night. We'll talk to you guys next time.