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much for your support. You know me, I like to

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talk about ideas. What's the old axiom. Great minds talk

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about ideas, small minds talk about people. I am the

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unique individual that can talk about both. So I've got

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so I want to talk about the idea. That's all

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it is. It's just an idea, Okay. I just want

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to make this very very clear. This is simply an idea.

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It's called antifa, Okay. It's just an idea people, it

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doesn't exist. It's not an organization. There's no people involved

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in any organization because it's not an organization. There's no

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hierarchical structure to the organization because it's not an organization.

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It's just an idea, okay, Antifi. So we have a

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couple of developments on this front over the last few days,

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which if I was meaning to get to this last week,

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but then you know, Donald Trump had to come out

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announced you know, Middle East peace, and then like that

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just muscled everything off of the news cycle because he

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was given the note by Marco Rubio at this roundtable

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or I guess it would be more of like a

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square table, because it was set up as a square

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where they had all these people who are predominantly journalists,

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conservative YouTubers, influencers and such, who have personal knowledge and experience.

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They've had run ins, they've been targeted by this idea

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that is Antifa. The idea came along and you know,

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assaulted them, sending them to the hospital with injuries and such.

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This idea also, somehow or another rakes and millions of dollars.

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We don't know where it goes because it's just an idea,

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but some how another people are writing checks to the idea,

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which cards on the table here. I have never done. Okay,

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so I don't know how this works. I have written checks,

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but all of my checks that I've ever written in

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my lifetime they go to individuals or they go to

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organizations Okay, so that's just that's my fault, that's my

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limitation here. So I don't know practically speaking, how you

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would go about writing a check or maybe it's like

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a Venmo thing where you haven't you know, on your

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app and you just like wire the money or you

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just like digitally send it to the idea. I'm not

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really sure how that works. But but yeah, So there

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were all these people that had gathered at the White

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House for this discussion about the imaginary idea of Antifa,

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which doesn't exist, okay, the organization or the people, just

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an idea. Okay, So David strawm at hot air dot com.

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And by the way, you'll recall that Donald Trump has

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now designated Antifa the idea as a terrorist organization and

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they're talking about doing investigations into Antifa to find out,

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you know, how people and which people are funding this

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idea and how exactly that works. I guess, well, that's

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probably going to be part of the instigation. I would

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have to assume, right, I would have to assume that

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they would. They would have to get to the bottom

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of how exactly you are just like spending your money

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and it just goes into like the ether into the

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air or something. I'm not anyway, they'll get to the

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bottom of it. I am certain, So let me play

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for you a clip first. This is Seamus Brunner and

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he is a researcher sorry research director at the Government

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Accountability Institute, and he was at this square table event

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with the President. He said, the administration's whole of government

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approach is now fully underway.

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Speaker 2: This is not just a story about violence and chaos,

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as you alluded to, mister President.

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Speaker 3: This is a money story.

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Speaker 2: And at the Government Accountability Institute, my colleague and I,

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Peter Schweitzer and my I and our team, we followed

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the money and we followed it to the top of

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what we call the protest industrial complex riot Inc.

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Speaker 3: And we found a network at NGOs.

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Speaker 2: It's not just the Soros network, the Open Society Network,

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it's other funding networks.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Riot Inc. That's an awesome name for

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a company that's engaging in Antifah related activities. I'm just saying, like,

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if you like, if you haven't already taken that name.

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to see if somebody has the domain riot Inc. That's

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a great name or for a punk band either way.

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Speaker 2: Arabella funding network, the Tides funding network, Neville Roy Singham

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and his network, foreign cash, and.

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Speaker 3: It's also big left wing funders.

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Speaker 2: Some of them are not citizens of this country, mister

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Hans Yorg vis of Switzerland. They're pouring money into this

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entire ecosystem. And so I want to share three money

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facts with you about what we call riot Inc. Number One,

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like any corporation, Riot Inc. Has many divisions. It doesn't

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just have the ANTIFA boots on the ground. It has

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pr divisions, it has marketing divisions, it has a very

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well funded legal division to get these boots on the

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ground back on the streets as quickly as possible.

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Speaker 3: But it does have those investors that I mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Number two, we have identified dozens of radical organizations, not

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just the decentralized antifaut organizations, but dozens of radical organizations

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that have received more than one hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 3: From the riot Ink investors.

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Speaker 2: These would be the lawyer groups, these would be the

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groups that advocate for calling good honest Americans fascists, et cetera.

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that we have found that more than one hundred million

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dollars in US taxpayer funding has flowed into these funding networks.

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Speaker 1: How is that possible. It's just an idea. How are

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they getting taxpayer money? How does an idea get taxpayer funds?

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I've been doing this all wrong. I was today years

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old when I learned that I could just get some

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sort of government funding for an idea. I got lots

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of ideas. Hello, I've been talking about some of my

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ideas for a very long time on the radio. Nobody

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has stolen them for some reason, I'm not sure, But

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like I've got great ideas, like the cartipult. It's a

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great idea. There's no structure, there's no hierarchy, there's no

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organization at all. It's just an idea. Now, granted, it's

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of limited value outside of the city of Asheville, because

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that's where I came up with the idea. It was

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basically a tribuche and it would just fling the vehicles

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over the city because they didn't like the tourists and

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stuff for so long until Hurricane Helen hit. Now they

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need tourists again. But like the radical lefties in Asheville,

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they didn't want tourists coming, and so they were constantly,

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you know, just trash talking tourism and the industry, and

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they were trying to block everything at city council meetings.

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So I came up with this brilliant idea to have

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like this catapult that would just fling the vehicles as

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they approached the city on the interstates, and you would

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just fling the vehicle over the city, see, and so

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they would not be able to stop in the city.

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And when the car is flipping over in mid air,

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all of the money would fall out of the vehicle

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and land in the streets. It would be raining money

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on the communists that would then just go scoop up

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the money, you know, and then the car would I

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haven't I never did figure out the landing part of

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the idea. But still, if I can get an NGO

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to fund my idea, I mean, antifuzz got one, how

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come I can't have one. I feel like I should

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have one.

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Speaker 3: And that's just one idea.

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Speaker 2: Including at least four million dollars to these very groups themselves,

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not just Antifa types. But there was an event in

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Atlanta called Stop Coop City. Over sixty rioters were charged

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with domestic terrorism. These groups received money for that from

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both the billionaire class as well as taxpayer money.

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Speaker 1: So wait a minute, taxpayer money was funding those moon

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bats in Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm mad.

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Speaker 1: One of those, by the way, you know, was the

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son of a very well connected Charlotte elite, Michael Marsicano,

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the former leader of the Foundation for the Carolinas, which

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is you know, they got their fingers in all sorts

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of public private partnerships and such, in philanthropy and all

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this other stuff.

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Speaker 3: Huh.

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Speaker 1: So the Antifa cop City, stop cop City protesters that

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like firebombed machinery and attacked law enforcement, they were getting

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taxpayer funds. Again, I have been doing this all wrong,

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all wrong. So when I was a kid, my grandpa

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died with Alzheimer's, and before he died, my mom and

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my dad took care of him as he got worse.

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Forty years ago, there were no treatments and not much

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support for caregivers and family. But things are different today

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because of the work of so many people, including the

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Alzheimer's Association of Western Carolina. It's a great organization with

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awesome people with huge hearts. I've been a reporter for

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twenty five years. This cause means a lot to me.

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I participate in the annual Walk to end Alzheimer's and

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This is why we walk. Couple of messages on Twitter,

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it's a Pete tweet from Scott who says those NGOs

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were funded by US AID. Yeah, I believe it's Scott absolutely,

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and it's all a distraction, says silly Pete. You pay

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Antifa through your taxes, your taxes funded left wing NGOs,

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and then give the money to the idea of Antifa. Right,

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It's just an idea, people. I'm curious if I were

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a billionaire, and who's to say I'm not. I'm not,

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But if I were a billionaire, if I was a billionaire,

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if I was a billionaire and somebody, I'm sure as

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a billionaire, you get hit up all the time for donations,

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you know, I mean I get hit up all the

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time for donations, and I'm like a hundred air so

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I can only imagine the scale would be just crazy

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at that level. And I suspect that if somebody were

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to pitch me on making a one million dollar donation

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or something to an idea, I would, first off, if

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it's like some sort of business idea, like I would ask, okay,

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well show me your business plan, right because right now

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it's just an idea, but I want to see like

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a proof of concept, like I would run them through

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the whole shark Tank experience, you know. And if I

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were a billionaire, well, hell, I'd probably be on Shark Tank.

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I'd be one of the sharks, and I'd be asking

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all sorts of questions. I'd want a proof of concept.

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I'd want to see the product you have made you

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know now, or service you are offering, Show me how

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it works. Do you have an app? I want to

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see it? Right, and you are making a pitch. You

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are a person. You're standing in front of me making

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a pitch for my money. You want me to give

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it to you so you can fund your idea. Okay,

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I now have somebody to write the check too, right,

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I'm putting your name on that line. Well, if Antifa

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just an idea, then who am I writing this checkout to?

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Who receives the check, who cashes the check? What billionaire

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would be handing over money to some non organization, non person, right,

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without any kind of proof of concept, without any kind

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of understanding about where the money is going to be spent,

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how it's going to be spent, what it'll be used for.

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Who's going to be in control of the funding?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Who's to say it's not just some fly by night

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huckster of some kind, some con man that's just trying

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to take my money. Right, It's absurd, it always has

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been absurd. It's a lie and it always has been

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a lie.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 1: This is Seamus Bruner, research director at the Government Accountability Institute.

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He cited bail fund networks that allegedly in a will

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repeat offenders to return to protests. He pointed to GAI

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investigations showing coordination across cities like you may want to

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sit down for this when I read this list of

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cities to you. Okay, here we go. There's coordination across

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cities like Portland, Seattle, and Chicago. No, yes, involving paid

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and transported individuals, including homeless people exploited to participate in unrest.

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He pointed to major funding sources, including billionaire George Soros's

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Open Society Foundation as well as the TIDES Foundation, foreign

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donors like Swiss billionaire Hans I think it's how he

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pronounces that. To curb funding for unrest, he said federal

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authorities could use RECO statutes to target networks, and he

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urged the IRS and the Office of Management and Budget

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the way former Congressman Dan Bishop works for OMB now

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former lawyer. I want to put him on this. I

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think he would do fantastic. He wants these government agencies

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to review or revoke tax exempt status for nonprofits that

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are misusing charitable funds. If those agencies find that funding

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supports criminal activity, he said, they could force organizations to

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open their books and then justify their grants. Here's the

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rest of what he Uh, well, I don't have time

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to play. Yeah, I don't know. Okay, I'm gonna have

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to revisit this. I'll play the rest of his SoundBite

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after the news. This is, by the way, I'm reading

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from foxnews dot com about this roundtable which meeting, which

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is actually a square table, but it followed Trump's order

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to deploy National Guard troops to Portland, part of the

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administration's broader effort to curb crime and illegal immigration, a

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move temporarily blocked by a federal judge the other day.

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Antifa is a far left military, sorry, militant movement that

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describes itself as quote anti fascist, and so if you're

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opposed to Andifa, then you must be for fascism, goes

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the childish, immature, intellectually stunted argument being deployed by democrats

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and media.

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Speaker 3: But I repeat myself.

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finish playing this audio now. This is again Seamus Brunner,

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research director at the Government Accountability Institute. He participated in

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the square table maybe rectangular table discussion with the Trump

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administration last week. This story got bigfooted by the Middle

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East piece deal, the ceasefire deal. So uh, Brunner was

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talking about what he called riot inc.

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Speaker 3: Right, this.

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Speaker 1: Organization that these various entities participate in to fund Antifa

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and leftist violence. Okay, and he identified some of them.

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They've done extensive investigations into the funding, who's responsible, where's

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the money going? And here's the rest of his comments.

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Speaker 2: Here one other thing, this money helps fund the decentralized

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crowdfunding platforms. These are ways that Antifa, the John Brown

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Gun Club of Elmfork which had links to that attack

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on the Ice facility, the Socialist Rifle Association, and just

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because they don't have LLCs or EI n numbers doesn't

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mean they can't get paid.

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Speaker 3: Some of these funding platforms.

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Speaker 2: Crowdfunding platforms are funded by this network that we call rioting.

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So again I want to thank you for your leadership,

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for the whole cabinet's leadership on this. We're going to

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keep following the money and appreciate everything you're doing.

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Speaker 3: Sir.

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Speaker 4: Do you know the name of any of the funders?

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Do you know the names? Because if you do, I'd

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like you to give them to Cash or Pam.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely well, Christy, yeah, we'll do it as soon as

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you can.

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Speaker 4: That's all of you, because you probably know the names.

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After a certain period of time you tend to find out.

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But these are people that do not have good intention

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for the country, and that's cruising this probably. So if

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you could, if you very important, if you could do that,

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it would be great. Nobody would know better than you.

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You'll figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Right, So David Strom at hot air dot com says

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what was once nearly a throwaway line meant to defend

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antifa's NGO accomplices in the legal and nonprofit worlds, including

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the Tides Foundation and Act Blue, which have funneled a

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lot of money to anti fun linked organizations. This claim

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that it's an idea not an organization being repeated often

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and with vehemence. There is a reason for this. Donald

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Trump's order that labels Antifa a domestic terror organization ups

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the legal anti quite a bit, and some of these

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NGOs could be in real trouble. So what was an

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occasional claim has now become a mantra. Antifa has been

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around for years. There is absolutely no doubt that Antifa

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is very real. It has websites, it has legal representation,

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it has access to significant sources of funding. It has

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gatekeepers to ensure that infiltrators are kept out or punished.

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It has a flag, It has a handbook. The handbook

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was written by a professor who literally just fled the country.

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Mark bray is his name, fled the country for Spain,

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although he's still doing his classes at Rutgers University by

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zoom and is still paid by Rutgers to be the

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associate professor that he he is literally wrote the handbook

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called the Antifa Handbook. It's got lots of supporters both

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inside the Democrat Party and on the left. Glenn Beck

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has been documenting the ties with these various NGOs and

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organizations on the left for years doing his talkboard diagrams

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and all of that stuff. He's been doing it for years. Well,

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the other day he did another one of these presentations,

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and I saw last night that he was talking about

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this on a show that over the weekend he got

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a call and the call said, the director of the

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FBI would like you to meet with some agents. And

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so of course Glenn Beck was very nervous.

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Speaker 3: It's like, what is this.

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Speaker 1: Good or bad? Like what's happening here? So he did.

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He met with them and they spent he said, they

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spent about two hours in Glenn Beck's living room with

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his wife and his researcher and Glenn Beck and they

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went over all of the information. They gave them everything.

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And Glenn Beck seems to believe that the I think

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he said there were two maybe three agents that came.

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He said, they are taking it seriously. They are investigating,

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which I would submit is the reason why that Rutger's

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professor who wrote the handbook, Mark Bray, That's why he

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fled because that guy has been acting as a pass

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through for funding Antifa organizations, and that if Antifa gets

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labeled an international terrorist organization, which people have been advocating for.

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That makes him liable. That puts him squarely in the

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crossairs because he has been saying that he donates half

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of the profits off of his book too Antifa activities,

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which again is so weird. How do you how do

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you write a check? To an idea? Ray may have

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an explanation for this. Hello Ray, Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 5: Hello Pete. I do have an idea on that. Okay,

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it's a simple. A simple listener out here in radio

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land got me to thinking. When you write a check,

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instead of writing the name of the corporation in the

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pay to the order of the line, you just draw

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a picture of someone throwing a bottle of frozen water

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at a police officer, little federal building on fire. Yeah,

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and draw a big circle around that and then have

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several smaller circles trailing off from that in the pay

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two order line. How's that sound thing?

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Speaker 3: I like?

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Speaker 1: That makes perfect sense. Maybe just like a flaming Molotov

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cocktail into a police vehicle or something. Yeah, I mean

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it does require some some doodling skills, I will say that,

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but that would make sense.

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Speaker 5: I like it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, yes, sir, no I appreciate that. That now, that

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explains it. That explains it. That's how you would pay

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see Seth says Pete. If ANTIFA doesn't exist, then why

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is there an Ashville chapter on Facebook? I don't know.

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Do ideas have fingers and an Internet connection? That's what

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it seems like, David strom Hodair dot com. Nobody who

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is currently making the claim that antifad does not exist

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could possibly believe it. They're not mistaken. They're lying. Okay,

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they're lying. You can go to any leftist protest if

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you dare, and pick out the ANTIFA members in the group.

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They wear a uniform for crying out loud, right. They're organized.

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They dress in signature or fashions. They have lawyers in

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helmets monitoring the activities, ready to spring into action right,

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ready to bail them out, give them legal advice, monitor

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the situation for lawsuits and such. They literally have helmets

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identifying themselves. That's the NLG, the National Legal Guild, I think,

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or Lawyers Guild. I talked about them the other day.

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Who's funding them? Who writes the check that the lawyer cashes?

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And don't tell me that's all pro bono work. Okay,

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I know some lawyers all right, and that is not

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pro bono work. You're not going out there in the

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middle of a freaking riot and not being compensated somehow.

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Somebody's cutting a check, where's the check coming from? What

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is the bank that issues it? They attack police when

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one of their members is arrested. They call it de arresting.

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I've seen this happen. This happened in Asheville. When somebody

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crosses the cops, assaults a cop or something, and they

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go to arrest the person. All of the Antifa people

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they have tactics that they practice, and they all rush

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in and they swarm the cops. They dog pile the

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cops in order to create too many people to arrest

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at one time. And then of course they're all dressed

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the same and so then they all scatter and the

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cops can't figure out which one was the one that

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assaulted them, and then it all falls apart when they

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get in front of a leftist judge that's like, well,

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I can't really tell if that's the person that you

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claim it is.

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Speaker 3: They also then.

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Speaker 1: Set fire to police cars, they slash the tires. Every

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single person defending the claim that antifa is a right

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wing fantasy is simply a propagandist. That's all you are.

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If you're saying Antifa doesn't exist, it's just an idea.

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It's a luciphil, it's unstructured, there's no hierarchy. You're saying

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these things, you are either lying, you're a propagandist, or

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you don't know what you're talking about. They've been pushing

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this propaganda because Trump's designation of Antifa as a terrorist

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organization now threatens to separate the brown shirt wing of

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the Democrat Party from its funders and drive them underground.

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That is exactly right, exactly right. This cancer has been

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allowed to grow for the last fifteen years in America.

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Few Antifa rioters have ever been prosecuted because they are

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when arrested, released by left wing prosecutors in these blue

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cities who are taking money, by the way, from the

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exact same funders of the Antifa organizations. Antifa is quite dangerous,

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escalated from mere rioting and beating people up to actual

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attempts to assassinate people. Andy No has been in their

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crosshairs for quite a while.

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Speaker 3: Andy No had to.

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Speaker 1: Flee the country for his own safety for simply reporting

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on the riots as they were occurring. Going back I

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think probably pre twenty twenty even, and they almost managed

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to kill them a couple of years ago. Now they're

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attacking law enforcement directly, they're ambushing ice facilities, and it's

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only going to get worse. David Strom says, I'm pretty

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sure the Democrats are not going to be able to

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control the organization they helped create. I guarantee that. By

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the way, I guarantee it, that is always the case.

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The street thugs are to be dispatched when they are

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no longer necessary by the powerful that ascend. You're not

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needed anymore. You were simply there to create the chaos, right,

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to create the environment required for the people calling the

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shots to ascend to power. And once they have the power,

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well they don't need destabilization anymore. This is seen over

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and over and over and over again throughout history with leftists.

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It's always the same model. Whether you're talking Stalin, you're

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talking mal you're talking Venezuela, it's always the same. Right,

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you enlist these street radicals, right, they then sow chaos,

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They beat people up, they murder people, they intimidate them. Right,

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they shut down buildings and businesses and such. And then

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when the powerful ascend. They don't need the destabilization. They

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only need a destabilization on a temporary basis so they

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could ascend once they do. Now, destabilization threatens them and

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they don't like that. Members of Antifar are willing to

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act like this because they are true believers. True believers

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are not going to listen to their establishment allies. And

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here's the thing, Strom says, Trump has three years to

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work on destroying this group. Let's hope the administration remains

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focused on it. All right, that'll do it for this episode.

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