WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.480 --> 00:00:02.040 Disclaimer. 2 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:04.200 We'd like to know before the start of this interview 3 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:06.719 that the opinions about to be expressed by the guest 4 00:00:07.000 --> 00:00:09.599 of tonight's Getting Salty Experience Podcast are that of the 5 00:00:09.640 --> 00:00:12.919 guest and do not directly or necessarily reflect the views 6 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:16.760 of the host of the Getting Salty Experience Podcast. 7 00:00:31.519 --> 00:00:34.119 We're listening to the Getting Salty Experience podcast. 8 00:00:37.359 --> 00:00:50.880 Hello, Hello, Chiefly Experience. Welcome back to Experience podcast. That's 9 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:53.640 the only one that brings chief Leave and the fire 10 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:57.079 house kitchen table to you. We got Mike sitting into. 11 00:00:58.640 --> 00:00:58.799 Here. 12 00:00:58.799 --> 00:00:59.399 What's missing? 13 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:04.640 Hmmm, very very quiet. 14 00:01:05.159 --> 00:01:11.680 I'm hunting, that's what's missing. Roofie roofer. I don't Ohio 15 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:13.959 off the grid somewhere probably, I don't know. 16 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:16.920 I'm gonna hit us up on another seven, ten, twelve, 17 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:17.959 fifteen point. I don't know. 18 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:19.519 I don't know what he's got. I mean, how much 19 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:21.799 how much does he have to kill? He's already got 20 00:01:21.799 --> 00:01:23.760 to like fifteen points or something, right. 21 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:25.519 He's got some big ones. Last two. I think we're 22 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:27.000 pretty decent from what he's selling us. 23 00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:28.719 And he's back. 24 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:32.120 That's why I had an opening on the Hollywood Squares 25 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:34.200 here right, Otherwise that's. 26 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:35.760 Right, circle gets a square? 27 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:37.000 Who do you want to be? 28 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:40.680 Square? 29 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:41.599 Gets a circle? 30 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:41.879 Whatever? 31 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:42.519 That show? 32 00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:47.079 Portland? On that show? Yeah, I'll go back and gat myself. 33 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:49.280 Lynn god man, look at that. 34 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:50.799 You definitely went back old. 35 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:53.359 I think he's older than me, though. Are you older 36 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:53.560 than me? 37 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:57.480 I'm fifty five? How old are you? 38 00:01:58.040 --> 00:01:59.319 I'm older than him? Are you lying? 39 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:03.159 You had me beat fifty six? 40 00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:05.560 I got you by one man. 41 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:07.599 Fifty one, soon to be fifty two at the end 42 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:08.039 of the month. 43 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:10.960 What's my twenty what twenty four? I'll be twenty five 44 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:12.199 year Oh my god? 45 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:12.680 Yeah? 46 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:13.199 Whatever? 47 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:20.360 Yeah, all right, all shut your pile. You just start 48 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:25.479 that a fire career too, Chief, Can you imagine to go? 49 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:25.840 Now? 50 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:26.719 What you what you know? 51 00:02:26.840 --> 00:02:27.080 Now? 52 00:02:27.240 --> 00:02:27.400 Right? 53 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:30.919 Just thought over man, what you have ahead of you, 54 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:33.599 the potential? Don't squander it? My friend. 55 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:37.000 You know it's funny to say that cheap go ahead. Yeah, 56 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:39.319 I was gonna tell you, Chief. I just uh give 57 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:40.919 a little shout out to my new guys. They're getting 58 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:42.240 ready to go to the road. I've got nine new 59 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:44.560 guys going to the road. They get a little trial 60 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:47.280 run next weekend. In the following weekend they get released 61 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:49.080 to their shift. So I gave them that a good 62 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:51.639 old speech. You know, the love they have for the job. Now, 63 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:54.360 don't let it go away. Always remember that, reflect to 64 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:57.120 why you sign up all that good stuff. Hopefully they 65 00:02:57.240 --> 00:02:59.439 listening and carrying on, so they're gonna learn a little 66 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:01.759 bit of something from the show watching tonight. 67 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:02.599 Uh. 68 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:04.919 I gave him a shout out. I said that we're 69 00:03:04.919 --> 00:03:05.680 gonna watch, we'll go. 70 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:09.439 I'll give a shout out to good luck in your careers. Uh, 71 00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:12.879 to the new firefighters wherever you are, and hopefully you're 72 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:17.680 you're learning right these these podcasts such as this where 73 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:21.280 we're gonna talk about two important fires tonight h A 74 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:25.400 critical and keeping you healthy, safe and making sure that 75 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:27.240 you have a long and fulfilling career. 76 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:31.199 Absolutely meant to that. You gotta drill it into him gons. 77 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:33.400 Yeah, so I hope we did. You know, we do 78 00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:35.199 the best we can. We got a ten week program, 79 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:39.159 so it's pretty rigorous program. 80 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:41.639 Make this required watching. I hope to all you guys, 81 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:43.280 I mean, you're the chief over there, right of training. 82 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:45.719 I try to throw it out there, you know, I. 83 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:48.199 Don't try to throw it out watching. 84 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:50.000 You know you want to throw out there. You gotta 85 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:51.599 be careful, you know, remember. 86 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:53.840 I'm gonna tell you what you should this right here? 87 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:57.560 Where did I get this? Is this back in stock Hell? Christmas? 88 00:03:57.560 --> 00:03:57.879 Perfect? 89 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:02.960 Yeah, it's and it's It's been number one, number one 90 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:07.039 best on Amazon in multiple categories as well, so in Amazon. 91 00:04:07.599 --> 00:04:09.520 Look, we have a number one best selling author with 92 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:16.560 us here tonight. What to the Team is written extremely well. 93 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:18.839 I gotta tell you though, man, that chapter seventeen. 94 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:21.439 Yeah, one of the one of these shows will get 95 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:21.720 to that. 96 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:22.800 But yeah, but do you forget me? 97 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:23.399 Yeah? 98 00:04:23.439 --> 00:04:25.120 As I say, we have two authors tonight. 99 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:27.639 We have an author. I have his right here. 100 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:33.000 And I will tonight we'll do chapter twenty two and 101 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:35.040 chapter Yeah, we're. 102 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:40.600 Gonna have Mike fall City. Wow, we're just we're just 103 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:42.000 burst it all over the place. 104 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:45.560 But right before the holidays, Yeah, for sure. 105 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:47.560 And you don't even you don't even have your pipe tonight. 106 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:51.839 I have it over here. I could. I'm keeping that 107 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:55.199 the pipe and this over there. You stay over there. 108 00:04:55.199 --> 00:05:00.279 There's no room for you here tonight. This yeah, should 109 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:03.600 be required no shit, this should be required reading by 110 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:05.199 all the academies around the country. 111 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:05.360 Man. 112 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:09.160 Yeah, we've heard some that some departments that are having 113 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:13.160 it required reading. We've and we've heard from a couple 114 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:16.279 that as we come out with these different podcasts featuring 115 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:20.839 the chapters, that they are encouraging and some requiring. 116 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:23.040 Their members to listen to that too. So that's it's 117 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:23.560 pretty cool. 118 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:27.519 It's just all these different methods, whether it's the book, 119 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:31.600 the website, these podcasts, to really enhance the learning experience 120 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:33.639 for these for these thirty fives. 121 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:35.600 Yep. Is the website up and running. 122 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:36.680 It is. 123 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:39.439 Yeah, the the links are not on it from the 124 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:42.839 other podcast yet, but we'll be getting those on in 125 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:43.439 the next week. 126 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:44.800 We've done ready. 127 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:47.160 Now we'll play it on every single podcast, not only 128 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:49.240 this one that we do, but every guest that we 129 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:51.959 have on because it's that important. Have you guys started 130 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:55.639 writing the next facts you're talking about or at least. 131 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:58.399 No, we have not. We've only talked. We've we've talked 132 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:04.040 briefly about it only because we've been we've been inundated. 133 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:06.000 I guess is a good word to use with for 134 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:09.079 people who would like to write about a fire that 135 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:13.120 they had and honor their their brother or sister that was. 136 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:14.319 Killed in the line of duty. 137 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:18.399 So at some point right now, the bigger, the bigger 138 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:22.000 challenges we're trying to get the podcast for each of 139 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:24.199 the thirty fires, which I. 140 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:26.199 Don't know, I'll tell you what for. 141 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:29.120 For you guys that do the podcast on a weekly 142 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:32.800 basis and and twice a week basis, it's a lot 143 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:36.120 just be you know, So kudos to you guys for 144 00:06:37.040 --> 00:06:38.560 what you do in the quality of show that you 145 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:39.040 that you. 146 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:39.759 Put out there. 147 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:43.360 And as you know, there's there's several really good quality 148 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:47.160 fire department style podcasts out there, and it's amazing the 149 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:48.959 effort that you guys all put into it. 150 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:51.360 So uh, I know, I appreciate it. 151 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:54.800 I know that the fire service in Lodge appreciates it, 152 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:56.360 and we're all better because of it. 153 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:56.959 So thank you. 154 00:06:57.160 --> 00:06:59.519 And we're only asking for a couple of things alike 155 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:02.680 air and subscribe. Is that a lot? 156 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:03.000 No? 157 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:04.079 I don't think so. 158 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:05.959 I don't very reason too. 159 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:08.160 And I know we can get into with the guys tonight. 160 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:10.480 But you write a lot. You've seen a lot in 161 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:11.959 your career, a lot of it good, some of it 162 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:13.920 not good. Because the fire service it's a hard job. 163 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:16.879 You're going to see some tough things going through these events. 164 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:18.879 I mean, even if you didn't know the person directly 165 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:20.720 before their death. It does feel like you know them 166 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:23.040 in reading their story. What's the emotional toll like, do 167 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:25.360 you ever find yourself having to stop and compose yourself? 168 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:27.759 Yeah? 169 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:30.600 And you know what, and I've said it, uh before, 170 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:33.279 I think so I take I take what we do 171 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:36.480 very seriously, and I take our training, our education, are 172 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:39.839 remembering on our history very seriously. I love the fire 173 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:41.839 service and I love the people that that serve in 174 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:43.959 the fire service. We are ultimately all cut from the 175 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:46.800 same cloth, and we're all trying to pull in the 176 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:49.439 same direction. And I think when we learn from incidents 177 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:51.079 and we we do this and we're able to get 178 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:52.120 we're able to be better. 179 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:56.759 You know, we're all pulling on We're all pulling in 180 00:07:56.800 --> 00:07:59.160 the same direction. But let's all get on the same rope. 181 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:01.079 Let's make sure that you're learning all the things that 182 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:01.680 we need to do. 183 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:05.720 And that comes through training and education and even you know, 184 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:07.759 we talk about safety on the fire ground. Safety is 185 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:11.160 a by product of your training, you know. And I 186 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:12.319 had this conversation with. 187 00:08:12.279 --> 00:08:12.920 So many people. 188 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:16.480 I didn't go to a fire and say, oh I 189 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:20.079 got to be safe here. My training is what dictated 190 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:23.519 how I operated at that fire ground and because I 191 00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:25.480 was well trained, because the people I worked with were 192 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:28.600 well trained, that they were able to operate more safely 193 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:31.639 just because of that. So training wasn't top of mind. 194 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:35.000 A safety wasn't top of mind. What was was training 195 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:37.200 and education and doing the job at hand, saving the 196 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:38.799 savorable people and. 197 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:40.399 Knowing, yeah, there comes a risk of that. 198 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:42.840 Because we don't always know that a basement of a 199 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:46.559 hardware store and Queen's going to have illegally stored combustibles 200 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:49.919 is going to explode. We can't count for that, but 201 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:53.720 we could account for ourselves through our training, and that's 202 00:08:53.720 --> 00:08:55.720 what gives us the safety on the fire ground. And 203 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:58.759 unless you're an insitting commander, a safety offer of safety chief, 204 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:02.000 those people have to directly look at the scene through 205 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:06.120 the lens of safety as well, because they are the 206 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:07.679 they are the safety net for the rest of us 207 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:10.240 on scene, making sure that resources are coming, that people 208 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:12.519 have deployed. Lines of stress was a force where they 209 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:16.320 need to happen, making sure that it's a well choreographed incident, 210 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:18.600 that that we're doing what was supposed to do. But 211 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:22.559 firefighters aren't going on scene thinking about safety. They're thinking 212 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:24.879 about what they're going to do and that safety is 213 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:27.320 a byproduct of our training. The more you train, the better, 214 00:09:27.320 --> 00:09:29.200 The more sets in reps you have, the safe you 215 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:30.720 are on the fire ground because the more you know, 216 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:33.120 ask a civilian to go in and make a rescue, 217 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:35.000 they're not going to be a safe because they don't 218 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.679 know what they're doing as opposed to a new firefighter 219 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:39.519 or a twenty year firefighter. 220 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:45.879 Anyway, enough of EVR. 221 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:46.120 Es a good point because the I don't know if 222 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:49.600 you guys caught it, I'm sorry for you. You mentioned 223 00:09:49.639 --> 00:09:52.039 safety earlier. Did you guys catch that piece of debris 224 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:53.879 that fell off and then took the firefighter out? That 225 00:09:53.919 --> 00:09:56.120 was on Instagram? It wasn't paying attention. There's a lot 226 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:58.080 of people on scene, and I think the facade fell 227 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:01.279 down from a two story home if it was took 228 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:03.200 out a couple of guys. So you're talking about the 229 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:06.039 safety element, just paying attention, taking a step back being 230 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:08.360 the safety guys. It's just training. I'm just just touching 231 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:09.360 on your safety element. 232 00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:12.159 Yeah, and that's why they have to look at the 233 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:13.440 fire through the lens of safety. 234 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:15.279 When I was in safety chief, I was the same. 235 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:16.120 That was my job. 236 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:18.279 That was so you have to know your job, do 237 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:20.879 your job and be trained in your job. But I 238 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:22.799 don't want my five. I want my five brice to 239 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:25.519 be well trained and do their job, which makes them 240 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:28.840 safe for on a fire round because they understand BIA dynamics, 241 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:31.519 five behavior, they understand building destruction, and they understand all 242 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:33.000 of that by virtue of their training. 243 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:35.960 Okay, so if you buy this book, let's say happen 244 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:37.799 to buy this book, you could also talk about it 245 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:39.360 with guys in the fire house. Maybe they're not going 246 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:40.720 to buy the book, but if you sit here and 247 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:43.000 talk about some of the stories in there, or if 248 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:45.240 you buy one for the firehouse for everybody to read, 249 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:47.840 you can't go wrong, man, Because when a guy goes 250 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:49.559 through a fire and maybe he reads one of these 251 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:51.600 stories and a triggers something that his brand and goes, 252 00:10:51.639 --> 00:10:54.200 oh I read this somewre, you know it sets out 253 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:55.159 right in motion. 254 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:55.399 Man. 255 00:10:55.840 --> 00:10:59.440 So go to the website, right the website www dots 256 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:00.279 thirty fives dot. 257 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:04.080 You don't even have to sign into it, so you. 258 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:06.759 Know, if even if you know what, you can't afford 259 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:08.440 to buy a book, you don't want to buy it, whatever. 260 00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:09.440 It is, go on website. 261 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:12.519 Learn something today that'll save you that may save yourself 262 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:13.320 five minutes ago. 263 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:15.200 I look. 264 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:19.559 You ready, you know what I'm gonna take. I'm gonna 265 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:21.799 let Chief leave because that's what Louis usually does. 266 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:23.840 And yeah, that's why I kind of told him it 267 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:25.080 was going to be his show, not I was. 268 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:30.039 Yes, so GOODHD, Chief introduce our guests for you for 269 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:30.799 us in a minute. 270 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:39.279 So we're bringing in Assistant Chief Kevin McGee, son of. 271 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:43.320 Which the department. 272 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:45.200 Again, Chief, you were kind of drowned out by the applause, 273 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:46.159 which department. 274 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:49.080 Prince William County, Virginia. 275 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:55.399 And Chief McGee is going to talk about chapter eleven 276 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:58.960 in the book, a fire that occurred on April sixteenth 277 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:01.440 of two thousand and seven that took the life of 278 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:04.879 five fighter Kyle Wilson. And we're so appreciative to have 279 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:08.919 you here cheap. But before we get into that, we're 280 00:12:08.919 --> 00:12:11.240 gonna bring in we're gonna bring in the other chief 281 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:13.919 who's in the back. But also you gotta He explained 282 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:18.399 how what his name, his last name means backstage, so 283 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:21.440 explain it to the to the listeners what your last 284 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:23.120 name means? 285 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:29.279 Well in Gaelic, when you have somebody last name starts 286 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:34.399 with mc min that designates son O and then the 287 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:40.200 g e E he is in Gaelic fire. So my 288 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:42.240 name is son of Fire in Gaelic. 289 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:47.080 Yeah, I meant to be a chief all son of fire. 290 00:12:49.519 --> 00:12:50.240 That was very nice. 291 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:53.919 I like it, but I can't do it. 292 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:57.200 What we're gonna say, Well, you're gonna hit me, put 293 00:12:57.200 --> 00:13:02.159 me up on the private all right, you're ready to 294 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:05.000 bring it the next guy, Yes, he's basically waiting. He's 295 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:06.200 basically waiting in the back. 296 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:08.919 I could see him. Was like, now he's smiling, Chief 297 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:10.679 Leaves dealing with his wife. 298 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:12.919 Yeah, all right. 299 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:18.080 So we're bringing in John Bostonson, who is going to 300 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:21.480 talk to us about chapter twenty two and the two 301 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:26.240 firefighters that lost their life in the training fire, so 302 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:30.399 on July thirtieth of two thousand and two. 303 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:32.679 So both of you, gentlemen, thank you so much for 304 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:33.279 being here. 305 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:37.559 Rather than flip a coin, we decided that we would 306 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:40.639 we would go with chapter eleven since it is. 307 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:44.279 Earlier in the book. But hey, before we start, I 308 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:45.519 just want to do a quick shout. 309 00:13:45.320 --> 00:13:49.679 Out to the Saint Petersburg Fire Department. So I was 310 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:52.759 almost late tonight because somebody were ended my vehicle. I'm 311 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:56.559 down to Florida speaking at an event tomorrow, and just 312 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:58.919 a shout out to the brothers and sisters who responded. 313 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:01.200 It's a really good care of me and my family. 314 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:04.799 So thank you for to those folks. 315 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:06.320 So the same all over the world. 316 00:14:06.399 --> 00:14:10.360 Chief, They truly are, they truly are so yeah, so 317 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:11.120 thank you to them. 318 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:16.360 And all right, so let's turn it over to Chief McGee. 319 00:14:17.320 --> 00:14:18.480 Did we hit the pledge real quick? 320 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:23.679 It's actually pledge, Yes, that's we gotta get patriotic stand 321 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:24.440 by on that guttle. 322 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:25.159 Here we go. 323 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:31.919 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States 324 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:36.480 of America and to the Republic, for which it stands, 325 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:44.559 One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 326 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:00.240 All right, Chief McGee, the stage is your sir, thought 327 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:00.720 us off. 328 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:06.759 Okay, Well, thank you chiefly and your team for inviting 329 00:15:06.799 --> 00:15:12.360 me to participate tonight, and thank you for the opportunity 330 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:18.200 to tell our story in the thirty Fires that you 331 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:25.279 should all know. It's an obligation that we took in 332 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:28.120 Prince Willan County Department of Fire and Rescue and our 333 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:32.519 fire and Rescue system to share the lessons learned from 334 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:37.240 a tragedy that occurred to us on April sixteen, two 335 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:43.639 thousand and seven, with the first and only firefighter fatality 336 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:50.360 in the Career department. Unfortunately, several years later, we had 337 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:56.120 a fatality of a volunteer recruit at our training center, 338 00:15:57.799 --> 00:16:02.559 and for both those incidents, we did a very thorough 339 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:10.639 line of duty death investigative investigation and produce the report 340 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:17.879 identified numbers a number of recommendations that we pledged to 341 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:24.240 implement in order to avoid those kind of tragedies from 342 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:29.480 ever occurring again. And one of the pledges that I 343 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:35.840 made to my department and to Kyle Wilson's family was 344 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:40.200 that we were going to do everything that we possibly 345 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:46.159 could to prevent a similar tragedy from occurring again. This 346 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:52.360 is an investigative report that produce just short of three 347 00:16:52.440 --> 00:17:00.559 hundred recommendations, and we implemented a vast majority of them. 348 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:05.440 And there's a number of those that impacted the National 349 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:10.200 Fire Service, and we can touch on those as we 350 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:16.880 go through the discussion. But every firefighter in our country 351 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:24.000 and many firefighters around the world, have been in a 352 00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:28.519 safer position as firefighters because of what we learned from 353 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:32.279 this incident and the actions that have been taken. And 354 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:38.400 I'll explain those as we go through the presentation, and 355 00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:42.640 the other obligation and commitment that we made is that 356 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:47.119 we would never forget. And so one of the things 357 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:52.519 that we felt was extremely important was to share what occurred, 358 00:17:52.559 --> 00:17:59.039 what our lessons were anywhere. So the Line of Duty 359 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:05.000 Death Investigative Team did presentations to departments all over the 360 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:12.480 country from as far as Florida to Alaska, and the 361 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:16.920 only thing that we asked was that the sponsoring department 362 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:21.519 would pay for the travel m And we've gotten a 363 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:27.880 lot of very important feedback from what we've done, to 364 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:31.920 include some chiefs that have shared with me that they 365 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:36.599 feel that what was learned resulted in a firefighter's life 366 00:18:36.880 --> 00:18:42.759 being saved. So it just reinforces in my mind the 367 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:49.160 importance that when there is a tragedy such as what 368 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:55.079 we experience or even a near miss, that we don't 369 00:18:55.880 --> 00:19:01.880 keep what occurred to ourselves, that we share broadly and 370 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:11.440 not only go through the the steps that can peel 371 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:13.720 away the layers of the onion to get to the core, 372 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:20.400 but also to do the implementation that's necessary to do 373 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:23.920 the follow up for and one of the things that 374 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:26.880 I did in my role is fire chief and I 375 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:30.960 asked our Board of County Supervisors in one of my 376 00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:38.799 budget presentations to add a chief officer to my staff 377 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:46.119 whose sole responsibility was to follow through recommendations from our 378 00:19:46.759 --> 00:19:53.880 LEDD reports near miss reports, so that we just didn't 379 00:19:53.920 --> 00:19:56.680 do reports that would end up collecting dust on the shelf. 380 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:02.400 So with that, we we have a PowerPoint presentation and 381 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:03.680 if we can. 382 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:08.559 Go to that absolutely to want to address a newcomer 383 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:18.039 to the Okay, you want to start with our first slide. 384 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:29.319 So Technician one Kyle Wilson was really what we considered 385 00:20:29.359 --> 00:20:35.839 as a star. He excelled in his recruit school. He 386 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:40.359 was in his probationary year assigned to a busy engine 387 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:48.720 company and during his probationary year was involved in the 388 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:53.319 incident of marsh Overlok Drive on April sixteenth that took 389 00:20:53.359 --> 00:20:59.680 his life. And as you can see from what we 390 00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:02.559 have in the bottom, we will never forget and we're 391 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:04.880 going to continue to do everything we can to prevent 392 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:10.519 a tragedy like this from ever occurring again. We also 393 00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:18.160 have our line of duty death report investigative report online. 394 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:24.359 It's available to you. I also have the link that's 395 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:28.720 in our chapter in the book that will take you 396 00:21:28.799 --> 00:21:33.480 to the investigative report that will spell out every finding 397 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:42.519 in every recommendation that was compiled. Prince William County is 398 00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:47.880 located in the National Capital Region. It's rapidly growing urban, 399 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:52.640 suburban and rural community covering three hundred and forty eight 400 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:57.440 square miles. At the time, the population was right around 401 00:21:57.480 --> 00:22:01.400