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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app. Now, the most destructive in LA

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<v Speaker 1>City history. More than one hundred excuse me, one thousand

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<v Speaker 1>structures destroyed, obviously by and large homes. You can bet

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand homes have been destroyed in the Palisades.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to get lucky if that number stays what

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<v Speaker 2>it is. And that sounds weird, but I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>compare it to some of the more destructive wildfires that

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen in the state of California, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>the tunnel fire that I mentioned from the Oakland Hills

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<v Speaker 2>back in nineteen ninety one. They're about twenty nine hundred

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<v Speaker 2>structures that burned. The campfire up in Paradise, more than

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen thousand structures burned.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is.

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<v Speaker 2>As this smoke clears, as we do get more firefighting

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<v Speaker 2>air resources up there to map this thing, to go

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<v Speaker 2>through and to you know, once they can get their

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<v Speaker 2>heads above water basically pardon the pun, and get it

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<v Speaker 2>into those neighborhoods and go house by house to see

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<v Speaker 2>the destruction. I mean, I don't know how that number

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't go up.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just seeing the shock and people's faces and people's

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<v Speaker 1>eyes because a lot of people, especially in the Altadena area,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the Palisades initially, yes, same thing where they

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<v Speaker 1>were not even given time to be told to get out.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to get out before any sort of evacuation

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<v Speaker 1>warning or orner was even given, because that thing took

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<v Speaker 1>off so quickly and just blasted down the mountain there,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why Palisades Drive was overrun, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>cars were abandoned, which is why the fire service had

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<v Speaker 1>to bulldoze them out of the way to get up

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<v Speaker 1>to fight that thing with what they could do at

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<v Speaker 1>a fire burning that angrily Alta Dina as well Alta

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<v Speaker 1>Dina overnight. That fire erupted about six thirty seven o'clock,

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<v Speaker 1>and man, it took off quicker than people knew knew

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<v Speaker 1>about it. We heard from Ernest earlier in the show

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<v Speaker 1>who said, you know, yeah, we knew there was a

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<v Speaker 1>fire nearby, but we went to bed. We woke up,

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<v Speaker 1>the embers were flying at the bedroom window.

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<v Speaker 3>We walk out.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything's on fire, both sides of the alley, all the

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<v Speaker 1>homes on the block. We just grab what we could

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<v Speaker 1>I yelled fire, We got the hell out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people are in complete shock still.

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<v Speaker 1>And some of those people went back to their neighborhoods

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<v Speaker 1>and their home was completely gone. They're telling people that

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't have to go to work, stay home.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can stay home, get off the roads, let

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<v Speaker 1>the firefighters and the incoming firefighters get to where they

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<v Speaker 1>need to be when you're looking at all, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>Silmar or the Palisades, Alzadina or anywhere in between those places.

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<v Speaker 1>Door dash services have been suspended in areas including the Palisades,

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Monica, Westwood, Brentwood, Calabasas, Pasadena, San Fernando, Santa Clarita,

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<v Speaker 1>Northridge because they understand the importance of staying off the

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<v Speaker 1>roads and letting the emergency vehicles wherever they need to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Just saw on X that Governor Newsom has deployed the

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<v Speaker 2>California National Guard. They will work alongside cal Fire to

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<v Speaker 2>get through what is going to be very tough several days.

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<v Speaker 2>The California National Guard disaster response in emergency preparedness, they

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<v Speaker 2>train for things like this. They're not just going in

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<v Speaker 2>there willy nilly. They're also not going to be Hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have to be the frontline defenders when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to actually fighting the fires, but they do receive

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<v Speaker 2>training to fight brush fires, including fire training courses during emergencies. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>National guardsmen can also support operations like security logistics during

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<v Speaker 2>major fires like this. So the National Guard has been

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<v Speaker 2>called in to assist in all of the first responders,

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<v Speaker 2>to assist with all of the other first responders and

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<v Speaker 2>the duties that.

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<v Speaker 3>They have in front of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Malibu is not getting a lot of attention, but certain

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<v Speaker 1>areas of Malibu have been wiped out completely as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And listen, there's something weird that happened yesterday when we

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<v Speaker 2>started talking about the wind event. I mean, when we

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<v Speaker 2>were planning the show, we were talking about wind is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the thing. We have to come back

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<v Speaker 2>to the wind. We got to make sure that we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the wind, that this is a serious enough

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<v Speaker 2>situation that combined with the lack of rain that we've had,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we've had I think it's downtown LA had

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen hundreds of an inch over the course of six

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<v Speaker 2>plus months, when we usually have three and a half

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<v Speaker 2>or four and a half inches of rain. At this time,

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<v Speaker 2>we knew that this was going to be a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>A few weeks ago, when the Malibu fire started, it

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<v Speaker 2>did not materialize in the same way. It didn't happen

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<v Speaker 2>the same way, even though we were in one of

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<v Speaker 2>those particularly dangerous situations, and thankfully it didn't materialize the

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<v Speaker 2>way this one did. I mean, this one is, to

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<v Speaker 2>your point, devastating. What we thought was a two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>acre fire yesterday, now we know is well over eleven

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<v Speaker 2>thousand acres and growing because of zero zero percent containment

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<v Speaker 2>on that thing today. And it went straight, it went

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<v Speaker 2>straight west towards Malibu, and some of those areas, some

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<v Speaker 2>of those homes that are just west of Duke's Restaurant

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<v Speaker 2>on Pch are gone and there is nothing left but

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<v Speaker 2>a charred foundation in some cases.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we are taking your calls when one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and five to zero one KFI. If you have any

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<v Speaker 1>experiences today yesterday, loved ones, you let us know.

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<v Speaker 2>One eight hundred five to one five three four. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>come back with more of those calls. Yeah. I noticed

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<v Speaker 2>this morning as the sun was coming up, both in

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<v Speaker 2>the Pacific Palisades area and also over in Altadena that

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<v Speaker 2>there was an expectation that you would see some amount

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<v Speaker 2>of destruction. I mean, we knew that that was coming,

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<v Speaker 2>just based on the absolute terrorizing images from last night,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that the darkness was hiding some of the destruction,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when the sudden came up, it was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be even worse than that. And we've seen in

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<v Speaker 2>cases before fires like this that do cause destruction, but

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<v Speaker 2>not this widespread, you know, not up and down a

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<v Speaker 2>road as far as you can see every single home

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<v Speaker 2>or mobile home or a car or whatever. It is

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<v Speaker 2>just completely destroyed. The development that we just found out

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<v Speaker 2>about a short time ago is that Governor Gavin Newsom

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<v Speaker 2>has apparently activated the California National Guard to come in

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<v Speaker 2>and help out with all kinds of things with logistics,

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<v Speaker 2>with law enforcement, with evacuations, with care for people who

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<v Speaker 2>have been evacuated. They do have some wildland fire training

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<v Speaker 2>as well, so I don't know if you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see a whole lot of them out on the actual

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<v Speaker 2>fire lines themselves. It is a good move simply because

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<v Speaker 2>we've got to get some rest. Some of these crews

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<v Speaker 2>have been out there for twenty six hours, and you

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<v Speaker 2>think about the toll that it takes on somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>stays up all night because they've got to pack up

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<v Speaker 2>their house and get out. Think about the physical activity

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<v Speaker 2>that is required to be out in those hills, or

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<v Speaker 2>to be on a fire truck, or to be in

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<v Speaker 2>someone's backyard and try to save their house.

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<v Speaker 1>And they grab sleep where they can, you know, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes here, twenty minutes there, But they're putting themselves in

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<v Speaker 1>danger the little amount of sleep that they have been

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<v Speaker 1>able to put together. Again, the word the latest is

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<v Speaker 1>the fire out of the Palisades burned now more than

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<v Speaker 1>eleven thousand plus acres that is going to go up.

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<v Speaker 1>That number is no match for this year devastation. And

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<v Speaker 1>we use that word all the time right when we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about natural disasters or fires, wind events things like that. Hurricanes,

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<v Speaker 1>tornadoes would have you devastation. But it really sounds trite

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at what has become of so many

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<v Speaker 1>people's homes. More than a thousand homes lost in the

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<v Speaker 1>Palisades alone, hundreds in the Altadena area.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe the.

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<v Speaker 1>Count is at one hundred, but you see footage and

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<v Speaker 1>it's got to be more. Again, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even know that this was a possibility. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know evacuating was going to be a possibility for them

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<v Speaker 1>because the fire moves so quickly in both of these places.

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<v Speaker 1>And so to go from just having a Tuesday night

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<v Speaker 1>at home to suddenly your powers out, you're told to

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<v Speaker 1>get out, you're grabbing things, you leave, You see your house,

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<v Speaker 1>your streets already on fire. You come back this morning

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<v Speaker 1>and everything's gone. I can't believe the kind of shock

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to go on in your life for the

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<v Speaker 1>coming days and weeks. Probably the Palisades Fire now the

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<v Speaker 1>most destructive in La City history.

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<v Speaker 2>To that end, the in the Palisades fire. I was

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<v Speaker 2>watching James Wood's Twitter account, Yes, yeah, and he had

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<v Speaker 2>quite an interesting timeline in that he, over the course

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<v Speaker 2>of a few hours, had basically said, listen to the

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<v Speaker 2>people have reached out, thanks for being concerned, just letting

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<v Speaker 2>you know that we were able to evacuate successfully. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>know at this moment if our home is still standing,

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<v Speaker 2>but sadly the houses on the street are not. That

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<v Speaker 2>was about twenty hours ago, So that would have been

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<v Speaker 2>just about four o'clock in the afternoon yesterday, and from

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<v Speaker 2>that point it was about an hour after that which

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<v Speaker 2>just informed the next door neighbor's houses on fire. Fortunately

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<v Speaker 2>they were evacuated that same hour. We cleared and built

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<v Speaker 2>pathways on our hillside and sprinkler systems that can be

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<v Speaker 2>remotely managed. We also did brush clearance per local fire

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<v Speaker 2>prevention mandates. I'm hoping it's done some good. It's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to beat the windows this, It's hard to beat the

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<v Speaker 2>winds this time of year, though it's sometime careless. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he said at one point that all the smoke

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<v Speaker 2>detectors were going off in his house and transmitting to

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<v Speaker 2>their phones. And this is obviously after they had evacuated.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, I couldn't believe our lovely little home in

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<v Speaker 2>the hills held on this long. It feels like losing

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<v Speaker 2>a loved one. The only reason I point him out is,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he's a large enough celebrity name that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people are going to be able to follow

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<v Speaker 2>him and see see his posts on X. But just

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<v Speaker 2>that timeline of he originally thought this was a fire

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<v Speaker 2>and that it was going to be okay, but the

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<v Speaker 2>videos that he took from out his back porch seeing

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<v Speaker 2>the flames get closer and closer, and then finally making

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<v Speaker 2>that decision to abandon. I mean, you you abandon ship.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to get out and you take what you

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<v Speaker 2>can with you. But to be able to now technologically

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<v Speaker 2>watch this thing go in front of you, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you can watch it on a ring camera, if you

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<v Speaker 2>are a doorbell camera, if you still have electricity at

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<v Speaker 2>your house. And then, like he said, all these smoke

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<v Speaker 2>detectors in the hall and the house started going off

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<v Speaker 2>and he was being notified of it as it was

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<v Speaker 2>slowly taking overtaking the house that he had lived in.

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<v Speaker 3>Video that makes me cry.

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<v Speaker 1>It's from the I think it's the Altadena fire. And

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's house is fully engulfed, as are many on

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<v Speaker 1>this street, and there are firefighters there and they're on

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<v Speaker 1>top of the roof and it's fully in golf like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, and they're battling this thing on the first story,

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<v Speaker 1>in the second story, and the ladders up to the

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<v Speaker 1>roof on the second story. Firefighter climbs down from the

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<v Speaker 1>ladder and gives the guy his cat that the homeowner,

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<v Speaker 1>and he grabs the cat and he's cradling the cat

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<v Speaker 1>thankful that his as his home is burning to the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>It's the sweetest video of like, you know, just stuff

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<v Speaker 1>so stupid right now, especially if you've lost everything or

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<v Speaker 4>You know, be ready to go pack what you need up,

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<v Speaker 4>but then please comply with these orders. Then we don't

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<v Speaker 4>give them put them out lightly. When we believe that

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<v Speaker 4>on that because if we have to send people in

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<v Speaker 4>to try and make rescues, those people are putting their

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<v Speaker 4>been avoidable. Sheriff Louana mentioned looting. That's something that we

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<v Speaker 4>also have to watch out for. That is incredible that

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<v Speaker 4>we'd even have to talk about that during these tragic times.

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<v Speaker 4>But we are going to take that also extremely seriously

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<v Speaker 4>and we will follow up with that in the strongest

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<v Speaker 2>Again, the LPD Chief Jim McDonald there from a news conference.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a point that was made earlier lamer care

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<v Speaker 2>and Bass is not yet in La although the expectation

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<v Speaker 2>is that she's arriving back soon. When they held a

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<v Speaker 2>at the time that they held the news conference, she

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<v Speaker 2>was in Dallas on her way eventually back to La.

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<v Speaker 2>She had been in Africa. She'd been in the nation

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<v Speaker 2>of Ghana, I believe for an inauguration. She was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the guests at the inauguration. So this will continue

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<v Speaker 2>through the day. The Palisades Fire is now up over

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<v Speaker 2>eleven thousand, eight hundred acres, the largest of the fires.

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<v Speaker 2>That is not a surprise. It continues to burn zero

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<v Speaker 2>percent containment. The Eaten Fire in the Altadena Pasadena areas

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<v Speaker 2>up over ten thousand, six hundred acres, according to the

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<v Speaker 2>Angelis National Forest And we do know that there were

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of fatalities in that eaten fire. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why, we don't know what the cause was, but

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<v Speaker 2>the fire department did say this morning that there were

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<v Speaker 2>two fatalities also a number of significant injuries in both

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<v Speaker 2>of those incidents. One of the telling comments today was

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<v Speaker 2>from the county chief, Anthony Mark, the county fire chief,

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<v Speaker 2>that said, we were not ready for this. And it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't that they simply didn't see it coming. It was

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<v Speaker 2>that they didn't see this many fires coming this quickly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're really even if even if all they were

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<v Speaker 2>doing was concentrating all of their resources on the Palisades fire,

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<v Speaker 2>they may not have been able to do much of

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, because because it took off so fast, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Took off so fast, the conditions were so bad, they

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<v Speaker 2>were so in over their head and there.

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<v Speaker 3>Was no way in and such a small way out.

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<v Speaker 2>Continuing well over twenty four hours of our special fire

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<v Speaker 2>coverage here in southern California, New York Post headline this

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<v Speaker 2>morning with just the most devastating fire images lost Angelus, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>the Palisades Fire burning out the Pacific Palisades Santa Monica

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<v Speaker 2>Malibu area is up over eleven eight hundred acres. According

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<v Speaker 2>to a firefighter for La City. They said it started

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<v Speaker 2>as a backyard fire, but didn't get into the specifics

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<v Speaker 2>of what that exactly meant, but the county did say

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<v Speaker 2>that more than one thousand structures have been destroyed. At

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<v Speaker 2>this point, they didn't have any fatalities reported in that fire,

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<v Speaker 2>but a high number of what they referred to as

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<v Speaker 2>significant injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>Including to first responders, making it the most devastating fire

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles history.

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<v Speaker 2>The Eton Fire, burning your Altadina and Pasadena is up

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<v Speaker 2>over ten thousand, six hundred acres according to the Angelus

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<v Speaker 2>National Forest. Now that one did have a couple of fatalities,

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<v Speaker 2>but they don't know the cause of the fatalities, number

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<v Speaker 2>of significant injuries, and well over one hundred structures they

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<v Speaker 2>say destroyed. I mean, you could just you could see

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<v Speaker 2>that in some of the early television reports from today.

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<v Speaker 2>Multiple homes in many areas along the foothills there that

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<v Speaker 2>were destroyed in Altadina and Pasadena.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that it matters, but it is Awards season. Critics

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<v Speaker 1>Choice Awards ceremony has been postponed. The AFI Awards has

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<v Speaker 1>been postponed. The King's Game tonight has been postponed as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything seems to be shutting down. Everyone says to stay

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<v Speaker 1>home if you can. Like we mentioned, this wind event

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<v Speaker 1>continues into tomorrow, I believe until tomorrow afternoon. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>most destructive wins, as we have reiterated, have already passed.

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<v Speaker 1>Those were last night between ten pm and five am.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you were in the fire arees, you felt

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<v Speaker 1>and wins like you've never felt before. I compared my

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<v Speaker 1>backyard there in the two ten Foothill area to just

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<v Speaker 1>a freaking popcorn machine with the tables and the chairs

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<v Speaker 1>and the plants and everything else in the backyard, very

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<v Speaker 1>small backyard, but just continuing to bounce around as long

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<v Speaker 1>as I was there till we were evacuated. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy, crazy time, a lot of shock, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fear that's going on right now as people return

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<v Speaker 1>to nothing. Some neighborhoods still without firefighters because the agencies

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<v Speaker 1>are spread too thin, are putting out their own fires

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to stop the flames from reaching the houses

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<v Speaker 1>if they haven't already done so.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, you are going to see the red flags

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<v Speaker 2>continue in terms of the fire weather warnings, because while

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<v Speaker 2>we won't see sixty seventy eighty mile an hour gusts anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't look like we will still see gusts of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five thirty five miles an hour, which are plenty to

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<v Speaker 2>cause multiple problems. We might not see the embers flying

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<v Speaker 2>two three miles through the air like we saw last night,

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<v Speaker 2>but we still see some very active flames throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>Well, like we talked about those embers yesterday, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>need to be sneaky. They were just going to be

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<v Speaker 1>taken by the wind for whatever attack that they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to be destined for when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 1>next house or even a mile or two miles down

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<v Speaker 1>the way. But now is time for those sneaky embers,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that may not be as obvious sneaking from

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<v Speaker 1>home to home, from a burning home to a home

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's just across the street. We've seen these fires

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<v Speaker 1>be very weird in the way that they move from

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<v Speaker 1>home to home on the same street, right And most

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<v Speaker 1>of the time that's because those sneaky embers will just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of drift across the street, nestle in the eaves

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<v Speaker 1>and attack that home from the inside.

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<v Speaker 2>The other big fire that we're keeping an eye on

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<v Speaker 2>is up in the northern end of the San Fernando Valley.

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<v Speaker 2>The Hearst fire burning in Silmar is up about seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred acres. If there's any silver lining in that arena,

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<v Speaker 2>it's that it is apparently burning in sort of the

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<v Speaker 2>old burn scar of the Saddle Ridge fire which went

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<v Speaker 2>through that area a few years ago. That is the

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<v Speaker 2>one that could potentially cause closure of a couple of fruit.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that the at least the westbound two ten

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<v Speaker 2>was closed for quite a while, and there are exits

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<v Speaker 2>along the five to get to the two ten that

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<v Speaker 2>have been closed as well, as long as you see

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<v Speaker 2>some of those evacuations in those same areas.

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<v Speaker 5>Little Garriash, I mean, this is Danny Martinez again. I

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<v Speaker 5>was just wondering how many more insurance companies are going

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<v Speaker 5>to quit writing policies here in California because of the

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<v Speaker 5>fires and all the policies are going to have to

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<v Speaker 5>pay out not only house policies, but out of policies.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that is an interesting That's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be a story for another day, but a story nonetheless.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, there's going to be a lot of stories that

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<v Speaker 1>we get to after the initial shock and awe is over.

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<v Speaker 3>What's far from being over.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to say that this is a done deal,

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<v Speaker 1>but these fires remain out of control. We talked with

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<v Speaker 1>Sue Cole from the Pacific Policies Community Council. She brought

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<v Speaker 1>up a good point when we spoke to her earlier

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<v Speaker 1>this morning, and she said that, you know, she talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the homes being gone, her home, she doesn't know

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<v Speaker 1>about her friends have lost homes. But it's the schools

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<v Speaker 1>that are gone. It's the businesses that are gone. You've

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<v Speaker 1>seen churches gone in Pasadena, you see schools gone in Altadena.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just centers of community, not just homes, centers of family,

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<v Speaker 1>but centers of the community that are gone as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And we saw this in Paradise when the whole town

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<v Speaker 2>The hardware store, the gas station that you stop by

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<v Speaker 2>every morning to fill up and all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Stuff is gone.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, Gary, Hay Shannon, just want to thank you guys

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<v Speaker 6>for giving all the news and eclipse about this terrible fire.

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<v Speaker 6>My folks are eighty five and my dad's got dementia

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<v Speaker 6>and they lost power last night. They're up in Eagle

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<v Speaker 6>Rock next to Pasadena, and my mom was freaking out,

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<v Speaker 6>so I told her to just grab your transistor radio

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<v Speaker 6>put on AM six forty so you can keep in

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<v Speaker 6>touch with what's going on. You guys are always funny,

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<v Speaker 6>but now you guys are given some serious hero work,

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<v Speaker 6>and I want to thank.

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<v Speaker 5>You, not hero.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of images that we saw that will and

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<v Speaker 2>he brings up. One of them was the image of

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<v Speaker 2>the people being escorted out of that rest home in

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<v Speaker 2>Altadena last night when wheelchairs and being walked out to

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<v Speaker 2>get to a safe area. The other one was the

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<v Speaker 2>burned out line of cars on Palisades Drive from this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's hard enough thinking about you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>golden time of your life and you've got to be

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<v Speaker 1>wheeled out of your of your home already and then

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<v Speaker 1>wheeled out.

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<v Speaker 3>Of your home home. And then you know the.

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<v Speaker 1>Angels that were helping all those people, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where they went. I'm assuming they're places for them

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<v Speaker 1>to go, but just you know, you're so lucky if

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<v Speaker 3>So lucky.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to try to hook up with Alex Stone,

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<v Speaker 2>who is covering the fire in Altadena for ab Snows

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<v Speaker 2>and for us. In a few minutes a.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm da Hawkman is being interviewed, which is ridiculous. He

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<v Speaker 7>did say because you know, there's been two looters that

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<v Speaker 7>have been arrested. Two looters, yes, which is so disgusting.

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<v Speaker 7>But he's basically saying that anybody that's taking advantage of

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<v Speaker 7>people who are leaving their homes, they're pretty much going

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<v Speaker 7>to be locked.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>But Nathan Hoffman has run to every microphone that exists

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<v Speaker 3>This is a little overkill.

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<v Speaker 7>Sorry, it's okay, It's okay, But I just like his message.

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<v Speaker 3>To the criminals.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true that fire, the one burning in the Altad

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<v Speaker 2>Nepacadyen the areas up over ten thy six hundred acres,

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<v Speaker 2>was the latest that we saw. Have been out there

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<v Speaker 2>all morning. ABC's Alex Stone has been covering that fire

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<v Speaker 2>for them and for us and Alex what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>out there?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 8>Hey there guys, I'm on Sacramento Street right now and

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<v Speaker 8>it is just home after home, still burning. We had

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<v Speaker 8>seen some burning earlier today and still there was a

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<v Speaker 8>garage that just a moment ago collapsed. In fact, still

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<v Speaker 8>the power lines. One of the power poles just disconnected,

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<v Speaker 8>burned to the base in tim tumbling in and gave

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<v Speaker 8>us a bit of a scare. But there are a

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<v Speaker 8>number of homes along this street that are now gone.

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<v Speaker 8>I was just talking to one of the home owners.

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<v Speaker 8>He says that he came home and early this morning

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<v Speaker 8>his home was already on fire. He got off of

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<v Speaker 8>work and came home. He's got an American flag that

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<v Speaker 8>is waving in the front of the home. It's got

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<v Speaker 8>burn marks in it right now, but it continues to

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<v Speaker 8>wave in the wind. But there are no firefighters on

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<v Speaker 8>this street that they've driven by. There's not a lot

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<v Speaker 8>they can do. Seems that they are out of engine.

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<v Speaker 8>Some Pasadena firefighters came in a pickup truck. They got

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<v Speaker 8>up out, they looked around at a garage that was

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<v Speaker 8>beginning to go up, and then they left from there

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<v Speaker 8>that there's just not a lot they can do.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like it's a treaws situation, that this is

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<v Speaker 1>a mass casualty event when it comes to homes burning,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it be the Palisades or all Ta Dina and

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<v Speaker 1>firefighters are determining who's on the grain, the yellow and

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<v Speaker 1>the red you know tarps, essentially of what they can

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<v Speaker 1>save and what has no chance. And I'm as hard

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<v Speaker 1>as as it is to move over that red tarp

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<v Speaker 1>or that yellow tarp to help all the people on

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<v Speaker 1>the green.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got to be really frustrating for them.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, I think you're exactly right. And then they're deciding

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<v Speaker 8>what they can save and what they can't save. We

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<v Speaker 8>sell them putting a lot of water on a home

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<v Speaker 8>on one of the main streets here, and there were

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<v Speaker 8>a number of engines out of Long Beach that stayed

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<v Speaker 8>there and continue to put water on it, and then

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<v Speaker 8>they left, and now it's going up in flames. They

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<v Speaker 8>just don't have, you know, you stop and you waste

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<v Speaker 8>the ban power of four or five engines to sit

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<v Speaker 8>there and put a lot of water on the homes

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<v Speaker 8>and then they leave and it goes up anyway. So

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<v Speaker 8>I think with a lot of these homes, as you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 8>they're kind of freizing and figuring out what they can

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<v Speaker 8>and can't do. And we know that there is help

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<v Speaker 8>coming in from We've heard from the Phoenix Fire Department.

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<v Speaker 8>We know around Arizona, Nevada, Oregon, Washington, they're all heading

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<v Speaker 8>this way right now, so there is help coming in.

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<v Speaker 8>But in the meantime where it is mainly Pasadena fire

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<v Speaker 8>and Long Beach fire and others who are helping out here,

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<v Speaker 8>they just don't have enough people to deal with this,

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<v Speaker 8>and so you've got neighborhoods like this street where the

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<v Speaker 8>homes are just going up in flames.

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<v Speaker 2>Or there are neighbors that are there that stuck around

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<v Speaker 2>and are trying to save the other homes. We've seen,

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen plenty instances of that and heard from some

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<v Speaker 2>people who were doing just that. You know, they may

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<v Speaker 2>have lost their own home, but they were willing to

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<v Speaker 2>stick around and try to protect the ones of their neighbors.

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<v Speaker 8>You're right, there are a couple of gentlemen who are

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<v Speaker 8>on a rooftop in front of me, and a woman

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<v Speaker 8>who is out front watering her own land. But there

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<v Speaker 8>are a couple of guys up on a rooftop using

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<v Speaker 8>garden hose is doing whatever they can to try to

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<v Speaker 8>stop their home from going up in flames, and it's

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<v Speaker 8>working so far. You know, Typically the advice is don't

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<v Speaker 8>do that because your garden hose is never gonna be

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<v Speaker 8>able to compete again the wildfire flames that it's not

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<v Speaker 8>a firefighter hose and the ability to put that much

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<v Speaker 8>water on. But they're doing whatever they can to try

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<v Speaker 8>to wet their roof, and so far it's working. But

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<v Speaker 8>as I look around in these neighborhoods, it is just

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<v Speaker 8>plume after plume going up right now, that there are

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<v Speaker 8>so many homes that are burning here.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, Alex, it seemed like with this fire, just

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<v Speaker 1>like in the Palisades, that definitely and I know you

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<v Speaker 1>have to go, but that people just didn't even have

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<v Speaker 1>time to know they were going to be evacuated before

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<v Speaker 1>they had to get the hell out.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, that's the thing. And then the one guy was

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<v Speaker 8>talking to a moment ago and he said, a gun

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<v Speaker 8>out of work and he came home and he knew

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<v Speaker 8>that there was the fire in Pacific Palisades. He didn't

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<v Speaker 8>know about this and came home and his home was burning,

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<v Speaker 8>and it seemed like it came out of nowhere. And

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<v Speaker 8>as I'm talking to, their explosions all around us right

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<v Speaker 8>now as ammunition in the homes as a gas that

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<v Speaker 8>propane tanks are going up vehicles are burning in the

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<v Speaker 8>street right here. That it's just one after another. And

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<v Speaker 8>even though it's not the one hundred mile an hour

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<v Speaker 8>in guys, it was nuts this morning at about three

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<v Speaker 8>thirty or four o'clock in the morning, it really was

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<v Speaker 8>one hundred mile an hour wind. And that has died down.

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<v Speaker 8>That's not going on anymore, but it's still breezy, and

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<v Speaker 8>it's enough with these live members in the air to

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<v Speaker 8>jump from home to home and the heat from one

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<v Speaker 8>home to go to the next home and then to

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<v Speaker 8>start that on fire as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Stone Sellar, job as usual, We appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Stay safe out there, man, you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Going thank Obviously, today is basically just catching up in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of catching up with the information, the size of

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<v Speaker 2>the fires, the directions of the wind, the where people

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<v Speaker 2>go if they do have to evacuate them. Fascinated Convention

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<v Speaker 2>Center has sort of become a main hub for some people,

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<v Speaker 2>and like you mentioned, that's where the news conference is

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<v Speaker 2>going to take place a little bit later. But there

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<v Speaker 2>are other questions that obviously we will get to over

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<v Speaker 2>the course of the next couple of days and weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and some of them are the obvious questions

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<v Speaker 2>of can we get another ingress egress route into Pacific Palisades,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Summit area, the Highlands area. Was there

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<v Speaker 2>enough water pressure? Is there a way for us to

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<v Speaker 2>guarantee water pressure in a situation like that? The hazmat

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<v Speaker 2>situations that will exist for weeks or months in some

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<v Speaker 2>of these places where if you've got if you've got

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<v Speaker 2>the cars that just just look at the cars that

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<v Speaker 2>burned and the I don't know the process of cleaning

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<v Speaker 2>up after a car has burned, to get that out

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<v Speaker 2>of the area, to make sure that all of the

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<v Speaker 2>hazardous not just hazardous materials, but then all the hazardous conditions.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got the power lines that have gone down, the

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of power poles that have probably been lost, the

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<v Speaker 2>wires that continue to drape across some of these areas,

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<v Speaker 2>and then how long it's going to take to get

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<v Speaker 2>basic services back up and running in some of those areas,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's Pacific Palisades, When you're going to get electricity back,

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<v Speaker 2>how long does it take so CAT Energy or Department

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<v Speaker 2>of Water and Power to come and get these lines

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<v Speaker 2>re energized, and then just some of the basics, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you recover, How did how does a neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 2>how does it, How does a town like Pacific Palisades recover?

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<v Speaker 2>How does an individual neighborhood recover? And then how do

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<v Speaker 2>you as a family or as an individual come through

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<v Speaker 2>something like this where you lose as much as you

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<v Speaker 2>do in just the course of a quick couple of

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<v Speaker 2>minutes or maybe a couple of hours.

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<v Speaker 1>In some case, you're seeing the best of humanity too,

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<v Speaker 1>of people helping neighbors, helping family, helping friends, people reaching out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of those things that really does restore your

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<v Speaker 1>faith in humanity at the same time ripping your heart

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<v Speaker 1>out for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 3>So be cool to each other, don't be a.

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<v Speaker 2>D Always follow Roads on social media. We have some

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<v Speaker 2>pretty great links, including that app that watched duty app

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<v Speaker 2>that helps us get information to you, and you can

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of mainline it. If you'd like to reminder

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<v Speaker 2>that Rick Caruso is going to be on with John

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