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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of the Typical

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<v Speaker 1>Skeptic Podcast. I have another fascinating guest with me today.

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<v Speaker 1>And the person I have with me it has been

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<v Speaker 1>a major.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hold on, you have to give me permission to

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<v Speaker 2>record your gas.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, welcome back to the Typical Skeptic podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>happy to have everybody here. I have another fascinating guest

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<v Speaker 1>with me today. Who I have with me is someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's been a big responsible He's been responsible for a

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<v Speaker 1>big part of my awakening and my learning process in

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<v Speaker 1>ancient history.

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<v Speaker 3>And who I have with me is Mount Lacroix.

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<v Speaker 1>I considered him one of the hot one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most highly looked up to researchers today as far as

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<v Speaker 1>like ancient past and esoteric truths.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe Matt is one of the biggest influencers as

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<v Speaker 1>far as our ancient past and what really happened. Ever

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<v Speaker 1>since his videos like the en and Hockey series he

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<v Speaker 1>did with Gerald Clarke up until now where he's working

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<v Speaker 1>with a huge company like Gaya, appearing on shows like

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<v Speaker 1>Ancient Civilizations. He's the author of two amazing books called

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<v Speaker 1>The Illusion of Us in the Stage of Time, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, he's been a major factor in my awakening

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<v Speaker 1>when I first saw his eg on The Serpent Battle

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<v Speaker 1>you and that changed everything around for me as far

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<v Speaker 1>as the way I looked at things. And I want

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<v Speaker 1>to welcome Matt Croi and Matt thank you for coming

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<v Speaker 1>on my show.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you, hey, Rob, It's great to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I have been conversing through messages and emails

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<v Speaker 2>for a long long time, and I'm I'm really happy

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<v Speaker 2>to see that you got your own channel started. I

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<v Speaker 2>actually remember back in the very beginning when you had

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<v Speaker 2>told me that you were going to start your own

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube channel and your own podcast, and so I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's great that you you you were motivated enough and

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<v Speaker 2>driven enough to want to go out and do that

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<v Speaker 2>and to put the effort in. And now you're blossoming

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<v Speaker 2>into doing lots of different guests and a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you've had some really cool guests on and

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<v Speaker 2>so I commend you for that. And I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a great lesson for a lot of other people that

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<v Speaker 2>are listening to this that if they're driven and passionate enough,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, go start your own channel and go you know,

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<v Speaker 2>teach others and the more the more that we can

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<v Speaker 2>get this message out about, you know, the potential of

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<v Speaker 2>who we really are and the divine nature of our

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<v Speaker 2>consciousness and what our oranges origins are and what are

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<v Speaker 2>hidden history from where we came from, and all of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that as many many know, are a big

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<v Speaker 2>part of us redefining our existence here in our definition

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<v Speaker 2>of who we are. So I love that, Rob, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's great and I'm really glad.

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<v Speaker 3>To be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, one thing that you also said, it wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>your videos that caught my attention. It was like when

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<v Speaker 1>we would converse through email, you said, never underestimate how

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<v Speaker 1>much of a creator you are. And then you followed

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<v Speaker 1>that up with when you went on Paul Wallace's show,

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<v Speaker 1>you talked about that we're creator gods. And it made

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<v Speaker 1>me think that, you know, I think we're here instead

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<v Speaker 1>of like this nine to five that we're here for

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<v Speaker 1>like to be creators of art music podcasts like Etsy stores,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like, did you ever think your words would

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<v Speaker 1>reach out many people? And like, what are your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on that statement?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you. I appreciate that that impacted you and

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<v Speaker 2>that meant something to you. Yeah, I really think that

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<v Speaker 2>we very much live in an illusion of reality. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why the first book was called the Illusion of Us.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't a reality that's been created, probably really defined

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<v Speaker 2>itself during the transition of the Roman Empire into the

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<v Speaker 2>Holy Roman Empire in the Byzantine Empire, when they started

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<v Speaker 2>basically redefining and redesigning our idea of where we come

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<v Speaker 2>from by establishing a narrative of history and then going

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<v Speaker 2>forward everything that came after with deciding how reality should

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<v Speaker 2>go now. I don't necessarily blame kingship being lowered in

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<v Speaker 2>Mesopotamia to being defining this false reality we live in

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<v Speaker 2>now because a lot of those moral codes and laws,

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<v Speaker 2>like the famous Stela known as the Code of Hammurabi,

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<v Speaker 2>when it was this handed down set of laws and

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<v Speaker 2>rules from which society could flourish. That really is the

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<v Speaker 2>basis for where the Ten the Commandments out of that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of dark figure Moses, which you can check out

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<v Speaker 2>other shows I've done talking about that figure who was

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<v Speaker 2>a horrible, horrible person, but that some of those laws,

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<v Speaker 2>those rules that came out of that originated much earlier

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<v Speaker 2>in the ancient Babylonian and Sumerian civilizations as being looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the moral laws and rules and the ethics for

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<v Speaker 2>how we can be just, we can be great people

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<v Speaker 2>and great to each other, and how we can look

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<v Speaker 2>at ourselves as something that's not that that's not animals

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<v Speaker 2>and killing each other and going after each other, but

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<v Speaker 2>being co creators of reality. And that's where, like you

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<v Speaker 2>just mentioned, really ties into the fact that we truly

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<v Speaker 2>are far more important and sophisticated and a heightened sense

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<v Speaker 2>of responsibility for our our place in this reality than

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<v Speaker 2>people realize. You know, when you your thought processes come

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<v Speaker 2>up and we just maybe act on them and we

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<v Speaker 2>don't think about how our thoughts really impact reality and

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<v Speaker 2>how we really are creators here. And the future I

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<v Speaker 2>think is very bright because more and more people all

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<v Speaker 2>the time are getting off of mainstream when they're starting

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<v Speaker 2>to learn all about how important and powerful they are.

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<v Speaker 2>The people are starting to meditate, they're starting to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>read all these incredible things that are changing their mindsets,

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<v Speaker 2>and slowly but surely we are going into a new

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<v Speaker 2>paradigm of reality. And I think that that's an exciting

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it was encoded us from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>from the in and okey that we would have these

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<v Speaker 1>like amazing like we could have amazing like SI experiences

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<v Speaker 1>and out of body experiences and near death experiences, and

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<v Speaker 1>like do you think that has to do with the

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<v Speaker 1>way the soul operates and stuff like and was that

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<v Speaker 1>in our.

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<v Speaker 3>DNA blueprint from the Anuna maybe? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that's echoed in a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>Cuneiform tablets when they discuss everything from Adapa to looking

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<v Speaker 2>at this Untana pishtam atrejesis figure that we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about these perfect beings. It discusses the idea and

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<v Speaker 2>especially I think the best place that really really gets

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<v Speaker 2>into that probably of anything is you actually have to

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<v Speaker 2>get into the Gnostic Knakamadi, the Secret Book of John

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<v Speaker 2>and looking into the discussions of the Arkans and how

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<v Speaker 2>our reality here because we really are non physical beings

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<v Speaker 2>as in our soul and our consciousness resides in a

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<v Speaker 2>non physical place, but we basically incarnate into this body,

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<v Speaker 2>this body temple that most people have forgotten that we

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<v Speaker 2>need to treat it that way because if we do,

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<v Speaker 2>it allows us to connect to these incredibly higher places

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<v Speaker 2>that take us on a journey that is really largely

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<v Speaker 2>called the hero's journey and the hero's journey can come

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<v Speaker 2>in many, many, many different forms. But one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that's truly the most important thing that comes out

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<v Speaker 2>of the Book of John as well as these can

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<v Speaker 2>uniform tablets, is the idea that because we live in

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<v Speaker 2>is called the physical plane of reality, that actually has

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with the physical plane of existence, but

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<v Speaker 2>the non physical nature of how our reality are layers

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<v Speaker 2>of different dimensional awarenesses that manifest themselves in these different planes,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning these these higher and lower dimensional experiences that we

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<v Speaker 2>can have, that we can raise ourselves up to reach

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<v Speaker 2>these heightened states of reality. And because of that though,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very easy to lose ourselves here. It's especially with

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the things that are bombarding us in

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<v Speaker 2>television and in the media and in even just being

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<v Speaker 2>have any interest in any of this, you know they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to encode this idea of how reality should be

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<v Speaker 2>through you. As well as going to school, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the ultimate in doctrination. Right now, I think the whole

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<v Speaker 2>entire education system is extremely flawed and it really brings

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<v Speaker 2>people out of that state of wonder and imagination and

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<v Speaker 2>discovering the gifts of who they really are, and really

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<v Speaker 2>tries to put them in as almost like a cog

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<v Speaker 2>in a conformity machine, to see if they could just well,

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<v Speaker 2>you do this job, and you do this job just

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<v Speaker 2>based on where you go. But the whole concept there

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<v Speaker 2>that needs to be understood, that it really has been

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<v Speaker 2>largely lost, is that we have this responsibility here and

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<v Speaker 2>everyone is on a different path though, But to discover

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<v Speaker 2>the true nature of who we are, the true nature

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<v Speaker 2>of the role we play, the roles we play in

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<v Speaker 2>this reality. And the hardest part of that entire thing,

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<v Speaker 2>that illusion that the Gnostics talk about, this great illusion

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<v Speaker 2>that's been created here and a lot of people. If

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<v Speaker 2>you ever look up the Nagammody and the Gnostic illusion

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<v Speaker 2>of reality, you're going to see a person stepping into

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<v Speaker 2>this colorful reality, half of him is still in this

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<v Speaker 2>other reality. And that's what they essentially talked about, is

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<v Speaker 2>they knew that because of laws and rules and constructs,

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<v Speaker 2>it's easy for us to lose ourselves and not realize

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<v Speaker 2>that we're multi dimensional beings and creators, but to just

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<v Speaker 2>think that we're just a mundane being in a physical reality,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where the great trick has been played to

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<v Speaker 2>basically strip us of our power of being creators and

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<v Speaker 2>have others create for us. I think that's really the

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<v Speaker 2>lesson that should be learned there. And right behind me

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned is it within us to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>have that inherent ability to break out? This banner behind

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<v Speaker 2>me is the Chakras, the seven Chakras within us. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that is the ultimate proof that there's something else going

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<v Speaker 2>on than pure evolution. Because if you had a being

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<v Speaker 2>that was naturally evolving, why would it have the system

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<v Speaker 2>within its spinal neural network energetic network of its body

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<v Speaker 2>that is entuned exactly with the vibrational frequency of the

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<v Speaker 2>seven colors of the visible light spectrum. It's Almo. The

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<v Speaker 2>only way you could possibly explain that is, let's say

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<v Speaker 2>you came here from somewhere else and you saw that

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<v Speaker 2>the physical reality here he's made up of these constructs,

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<v Speaker 2>and you knew how reality was designed, so you design

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<v Speaker 2>us to basically mimic that. But the idea is that

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<v Speaker 2>we can be stuck in these lower states and never

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<v Speaker 2>ascend if we don't have a certain means to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So it really is our own choice what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a journey we're going to go on. But the blueprint

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<v Speaker 2>and the path is there within us. It's already been

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<v Speaker 2>designed within us. And the whole purpose of that is

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<v Speaker 2>these ancient Sumerian creator gods, like especially Enki also known

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<v Speaker 2>as Eya, they designed that so that we will have

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<v Speaker 2>we can have this ability to break out, because it

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<v Speaker 2>was always known that it would be like being in

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<v Speaker 2>out of it. And that's that's essentially the escape out

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<v Speaker 2>you have an awareness of things you never had all

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you mentioned the myth of a Dappa. It

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<v Speaker 1>he was the wisest of the innachy. How would he

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<v Speaker 1>be the wisest of the Innay, he's a main being, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the classic story. Right. Let's just imagine you were

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<v Speaker 2>ancient Mesopotamian stories and in other stories around the world

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<v Speaker 2>that echoes something similar. Is that is that we have

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<v Speaker 2>this inherent nature within us and this is what Adappa was.

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<v Speaker 2>specifically states, just like you mentioned, that he was the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest among the Onanaki. So just tells us right there

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<v Speaker 2>that rather than us seeing ourselves as separate here, we

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<v Speaker 2>of us that resembles like some kind of a Neanderthal

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<v Speaker 2>But what our true nature is and who we really

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<v Speaker 2>are is something that is definitely not just a random

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<v Speaker 2>perfection and that's what Adapa is discussed. It's discussed in

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<v Speaker 2>it's talked about that he's the greatest among even his creators.

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<v Speaker 2>And because of that, great jealousy arises over the fact

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<v Speaker 2>where we can get into it to destroy what's called

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<v Speaker 2>the seed of mankind and have everything completely start over again.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's something we can get into. But people should

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<v Speaker 2>read those tablets, and I just want to mention in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of saying that people should read them. We Billy

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<v Speaker 2>Carson and I are releasing a major, major project in

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<v Speaker 2>is the most important in the best work I've done

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<v Speaker 2>that includes even more ancient text than the Stage of

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<v Speaker 2>our story, but not only in a way where it

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<v Speaker 2>just tells I present just I present evidence and talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it, but I have every section where it goes

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<v Speaker 2>into that, I'll have the best and most important, in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, piece of these ancient texts, like the Myth

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<v Speaker 2>of a Dappa that we'll talk specifically about who we

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<v Speaker 2>and the struggles we've gone through these sections in there.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's almost going to be like a reference guide

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<v Speaker 2>where someone can go back through and be like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>because I want to read it and I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>where to find it. If they're all going to be

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<v Speaker 2>present in here like this, like an ancient history reference

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<v Speaker 2>in a way where I think people will be like

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<v Speaker 2>who we are in reaching higher states.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be amazing, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's great that you're trying to preserve history as compared

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<v Speaker 1>to I know you've talked about on other shows what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening in Aradu, which is just like a complete.

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<v Speaker 2>Shame, right, Yeah, it's and there's a number of other

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<v Speaker 2>sites around the world that are following something similar in Aradu,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, I've talked about many many times, like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of other ancient cities that are not even being excavated,

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<v Speaker 2>such as shrew Pak, which we can talk about as well,

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<v Speaker 2>which was just started to be excavated and was another

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<v Speaker 2>project that was abandoned. But Aradu is always mentioned in

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<v Speaker 2>all these tablets as being the first city ever created

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<v Speaker 2>here by the lowering of kingship of these Anuna. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I want to add something to this that it's brand

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<v Speaker 2>really interested in that I don't even know if you're

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<v Speaker 2>aware of yet. I've been doing a lot of deep

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<v Speaker 2>research into a completely brand new place that I think

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<v Speaker 2>most people have probably never heard of. It's called Girafft.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Giraft is a city in southeast Iran Okay Ancient Persia.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Iran has a lot of incredible ancient history sites

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<v Speaker 2>Nashi Rostam and Persepolists and all these places has this

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<v Speaker 2>ancient history that connects back to the Innuna that has

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<v Speaker 2>the same cuneiform writing. And what you find is that

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<v Speaker 2>they were two civilizations that were coexisting with the ancient Sumerians,

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<v Speaker 2>the Babylonians and these Assyrians at the same time. Now

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<v Speaker 2>here's where it gets really fascinating for those who love

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<v Speaker 2>to go deep on these tablets. There's a tablet called

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<v Speaker 2>n macar in the Lord of Arata, and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>couple others as well, but that specific tablet talks all

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<v Speaker 2>about this land of Errata Okay Arata was a place

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<v Speaker 2>where it was coexisting during the time of sumer and

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<v Speaker 2>that's a r a Tta and that place was never found.

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<v Speaker 2>It was considered a myth by a lot of researchers

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<v Speaker 2>and archaeologists, but it was talked about in so many

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<v Speaker 2>tablets that it had to have been a real place,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was discussed how it was being It was

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<v Speaker 2>being ruled over by another Anuna goddess known as who

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<v Speaker 2>became known as Ishtar. Now that that civilization is now

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<v Speaker 2>being called Geiroft j I r o Ft, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>not what it was originally called. Now the archaeologists have

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<v Speaker 2>just discovered relative in relative terms, have just discovered this site.

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<v Speaker 2>It was discovered in sometime a little b after the

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<v Speaker 2>two thousands, two thousand two, two thousand and three, two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and four, and it was only discovered because and

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't because any archaeologist went looking forward to anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Local people found the site and they started looting it,

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<v Speaker 2>and an enormous amount of artifacts went on the black

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<v Speaker 2>market out of nowhere. I mean, we're talking about one

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<v Speaker 2>of the largest illegal sets of black market pillaging that's

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<v Speaker 2>ever happened in a modern history. And what there was

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<v Speaker 2>so many that were put in the black market that

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<v Speaker 2>archaeologists in the Iranian government started to wonder where they

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<v Speaker 2>this area called Jiroft, and they finally went in they

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<v Speaker 2>started excavating it, and they found a gigantic zigarot. And

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<v Speaker 2>if just like we were mentioned Airdu, the main temple,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a giant zigarot okay Non, there's a temple

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<v Speaker 2>of Absu that was Enke's primary temple archaeologists we're uncovering Geiroft.

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<v Speaker 2>They believe this may be the largest cigarette ever created

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<v Speaker 2>in the world. Okay, this isn't a simple little location.

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<v Speaker 2>This may be one of the great new discoveries that

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<v Speaker 2>So essentially what it comes down to is this, and

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't just me saying this. Many many archaeologists, especially

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<v Speaker 2>ones that are not funded by outside areas, like some

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<v Speaker 2>of the interior Iranian archaeologists, are saying that they firmly believe,

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<v Speaker 2>based on the sophistication of the site, the description of

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<v Speaker 2>it that's given in tablets, and it's proximity to Iraq,

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<v Speaker 2>that this is the famous land of Arata that was

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<v Speaker 2>talked about as being the largest civilization ever in the

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's what's just coming out now that's being

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<v Speaker 2>designs that they're finding in pottery, but also in blocks.

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<v Speaker 2>They're finding q and atiform tablets as well as incredible

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<v Speaker 2>pottery and other designs that have been left over from

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<v Speaker 2>ancient ancient times. But it's got the level of sophistication

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<v Speaker 2>is that of sumer this and so this is an

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<v Speaker 2>incredible new discovery and I can't I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 2>continue to look more and more into and learn more

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I was thinking, was Ishtar also Innana

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<v Speaker 1>because remember you talked about when you went on Paul

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<v Speaker 1>it connects Anana to the Indus Valley.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Ishtar was also a Nana.

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<v Speaker 1>That area is kind of close to the Indus Valley, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like that Persia type area. It's not in the same vicinity,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's close. I could see her rolling over that kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of area, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, most people. I only mentioned Ishtar because most people

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<v Speaker 2>was Anana. And we have to keep in mind that

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<v Speaker 2>many of these gods and goddesses in Innuna had multiple

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<v Speaker 2>different names depending on the civilization that they were in. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that giofft was and it's described in the text that

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<v Speaker 2>gioff was in this inn Makar. In the Lord of Rata,

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<v Speaker 2>it's discussed that that giraffe was this. It wasn't called

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<v Speaker 2>Gioffe was a Radov course, but the location today's giraffe

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<v Speaker 2>was this the primary city of Anana that she was

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<v Speaker 2>discuss how she, as a patron goddess of the city,

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<v Speaker 2>decided to leave and rule somewhere else and when they

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<v Speaker 2>and she came actually over to near er and Iraq

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<v Speaker 2>and Erdu, and she ended up ruling in that part

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<v Speaker 2>of the region. And when she did that, she no

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<v Speaker 2>longer was the patron goddess that was protecting that city,

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<v Speaker 2>and they actually went to war and they went they

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<v Speaker 2>they actually had a conflict against one another because of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is what's so amazing that I want people

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<v Speaker 2>to connect to this. This is the telltale piece. In

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<v Speaker 2>that list of kings that was ruling in that region,

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<v Speaker 2>and N Makar was connected as the lord of Errata

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<v Speaker 2>to this region. So there was this crossover of some

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<v Speaker 2>of these kings that at one time sumer and Arata

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<v Speaker 2>were coexisting as dual empires in that region. And so

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<v Speaker 2>what we're finding is that that means that one of

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<v Speaker 2>those one of those kings was ruling for thousands of years,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning that it's from this ancient time before we had

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<v Speaker 2>the younger lifespans that we have now that these kings

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<v Speaker 2>that with this region. So we finally had the telltale

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<v Speaker 2>piece to connect the other ancient land that basically Sumer

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<v Speaker 2>was connected to Rata and it was connected to Muluja,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the Indus Valley civilizations. So we now have

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<v Speaker 2>all the pieces in place to connect ancient Sumer ancient

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<v Speaker 2>Egypt known as Kem. So we have the Sumerians, we

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<v Speaker 2>have the ancient Khem, we have the ancient Persian area

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<v Speaker 2>which was the lord of which was the land of Errata,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we have Maluha, which is the area of India.

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<v Speaker 2>And what do we find today Some of the oldest

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<v Speaker 2>over to that area. And that just shows us that

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<v Speaker 2>none of that was a myth. It's all really part

424
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<v Speaker 2>of our past.

425
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<v Speaker 1>That's so amazing that I love how it all ties

426
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<v Speaker 1>in together. Now, you wanted to talk about mego lithic

427
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<v Speaker 1>structures a little bit. I'm not real I'll try to

428
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<v Speaker 1>follow you on that, but like, yeah, I'd love to

429
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<v Speaker 1>get into it though, because I'm really interested.

430
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

431
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<v Speaker 2>Oh so, one of the areas that I talk about

432
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<v Speaker 2>a lot in the book and I'm also doing a

433
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<v Speaker 2>lot of research in right now, is to prove that

434
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<v Speaker 2>this last aspect of our history existed. We have to

435
00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:55.880
<v Speaker 2>look at the sophistication of what was left behind. That's

436
00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:58.920
<v Speaker 2>the telltale sign. And I want people to be really

437
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<v Speaker 2>careful that just because something looks like something, it may

438
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<v Speaker 2>not be that. For instance, be careful with some of

439
00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:08.119
<v Speaker 2>these natural structures around the world that we just ought

440
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<v Speaker 2>to throw the term megalith that if those areas geologically

441
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<v Speaker 2>and climatologically had ice caps during the Last ice Age

442
00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:19.400
<v Speaker 2>during the Pleistocene, if they had a deep ice you

443
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<v Speaker 2>can have a civilization that lived there. We have to

444
00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:25.720
<v Speaker 2>be careful about where we're throwing these terms megalists and

445
00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:28.759
<v Speaker 2>these ancient civilizations around the world and really look at

446
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<v Speaker 2>the difference of what they left behind.

447
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<v Speaker 3>But the telltales a real megalith, right what now?

448
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<v Speaker 1>Back?

449
00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:39.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, of course Ballback Levinon is the second largest

450
00:24:39.759 --> 00:24:42.359
<v Speaker 2>megalist in the world that come out of that and

451
00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:47.240
<v Speaker 2>that region was part of this cross connection between the

452
00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:51.400
<v Speaker 2>ancient Sumerians and the ancient Athenians and Atlanteans. They were

453
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<v Speaker 2>all existing during similar time periods of history, and that

454
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<v Speaker 2>the ancient Athenians or the Proto Athenians are one of

455
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<v Speaker 2>the new kids in the block, you can call it.

456
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<v Speaker 2>In terms of our area of people don't talk about them.

457
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<v Speaker 2>Everybody talks about the Atlanteans. But if people go and

458
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<v Speaker 2>actually read the Timinius and Critias, it has an entire

459
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<v Speaker 2>discussion in there from sol On and the ancient Egyptians

460
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<v Speaker 2>that there was a proto Greek culture that created everything

461
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<v Speaker 2>before the classical Greeks did, that was ruling the Mediterranean,

462
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<v Speaker 2>and they were connected all the way over to ballbeck

463
00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:29.240
<v Speaker 2>Lebanon now ballbeck Lebanon. Think of it. If you have

464
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<v Speaker 2>the Atlantean civilization, and then you have the ancient Athenians,

465
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<v Speaker 2>and you have the Mediterranean crossing into ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia,

466
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<v Speaker 2>the area that they would go through would naturally be

467
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<v Speaker 2>the area of ballbeck Lebanon. Now another one we can

468
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<v Speaker 2>add to it that most people probably don't even know

469
00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:49.920
<v Speaker 2>about is in Israel. In the western part of the

470
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<v Speaker 2>way of the western part of the main Wall, there

471
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<v Speaker 2>there's some gigantic blocks that over one hundred and fifty

472
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<v Speaker 2>tons that are woven into the structures there. That is

473
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<v Speaker 2>another piece of saying, well, look, there was a truly

474
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<v Speaker 2>ancient civilization that existed there far before the time that

475
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<v Speaker 2>we think of as the later Hebrews and the and

476
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:15.400
<v Speaker 2>the groups that were there, because we find the telltale

477
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<v Speaker 2>evidence left behind of these enormous blocks. So megaliths and

478
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<v Speaker 2>I want to be I want I want to get

479
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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a definition in here, because when

480
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<v Speaker 2>when a lot of people talk about megalithic structures, a

481
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<v Speaker 2>lot of them will be like, we'll point out, like

482
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<v Speaker 2>stone Hint or something, those are monoliths, but they're they're

483
00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:38.079
<v Speaker 2>very crude. Okay, they're very crude structures that they were created. Yeah,

484
00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:41.359
<v Speaker 2>they had an understanding still of astronomical alignments and sol

485
00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:45.079
<v Speaker 2>ssss and things like that. But there's a whole different

486
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:49.039
<v Speaker 2>concept to these ancient megalithic structures that I'm talking about,

487
00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:52.480
<v Speaker 2>these lost civilizations because the people that build Stonehenge they

488
00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:55.759
<v Speaker 2>came after the younger, dryest catastrophes thousands of years later,

489
00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:58.559
<v Speaker 2>and that's why their work is crude. Look at the

490
00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:01.759
<v Speaker 2>blocks coming out of ballback Lebanon, look at the blocks.

491
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Look at the structures in India, these like Kalaysa Temple

492
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:10.039
<v Speaker 2>and others there, and all the way through Egypt the

493
00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:13.799
<v Speaker 2>Valley Temple and down the Ossyrion go and then go

494
00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:16.480
<v Speaker 2>across the world to Peru and Bolivia and Easter Island

495
00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:19.519
<v Speaker 2>and some parts of Mexico like Mitla. We find these

496
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:23.799
<v Speaker 2>gigantic blocks that are carved either at a basalt or

497
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<v Speaker 2>at of granite, which is so hard that you would

498
00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:29.880
<v Speaker 2>have to have highly sophisticated tools to be able to

499
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:34.160
<v Speaker 2>manipulate them, meaning that they had to have been created

500
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<v Speaker 2>in a high level of sophistication that sometimes sometimes almost

501
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:43.680
<v Speaker 2>beyond us. They were created far before the history books

502
00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:46.279
<v Speaker 2>give them credit for, including the Great Pyramids of Giza.

503
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:49.599
<v Speaker 2>Which Great Pyramid of Giza, Remember that's two and a

504
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:54.960
<v Speaker 2>half million blocks that averaged almost ten tons each. Similar

505
00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:58.279
<v Speaker 2>structures that we find in other parts of the world.

506
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<v Speaker 2>And the reason why, if someone gonna call me out

507
00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:04.559
<v Speaker 2>on why we don't find those in Iraq, the reason

508
00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:07.759
<v Speaker 2>is because those areas that built in those areas and

509
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.160
<v Speaker 2>they preferred brick. It actually talks about how they laid

510
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:16.119
<v Speaker 2>in divine places bricks. It was just in their civilization.

511
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:18.559
<v Speaker 2>They felt that the bricks had a different kind of

512
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:21.200
<v Speaker 2>energy that they wanted in those in those cultures. The

513
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:24.119
<v Speaker 2>problem is brick doesn't last, so a lot of those

514
00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:27.559
<v Speaker 2>are very rough, very crude shape, and they're falling apart

515
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:31.519
<v Speaker 2>and decomposing into these giant mountain hillsides that almost look natural,

516
00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:34.480
<v Speaker 2>but they're not. And that's the only difference is they

517
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:38.319
<v Speaker 2>didn't have granite. So some civilizations during that time did

518
00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:41.680
<v Speaker 2>decide to use something other than granite and basalt, but

519
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:47.559
<v Speaker 2>the most common material used in these giant megalists was granite,

520
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:50.039
<v Speaker 2>and you can find that in like the Great Pyramid

521
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:53.519
<v Speaker 2>of Gjesus case, there are gigantic granite blocks that were

522
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<v Speaker 2>taken all the way from Aswan, Egypt, hundreds and hundreds

523
00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:01.000
<v Speaker 2>and hundreds of miles that were incorporated into like the

524
00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:03.640
<v Speaker 2>around the King's chamber in other areas of the pyramids.

525
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:07.920
<v Speaker 2>But they also use limestone because different things have different materials.

526
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Limestone is an is a great insulator for energy, and

527
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:15.480
<v Speaker 2>brick actually has its own energetic structure as well. You know,

528
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.960
<v Speaker 2>when you take these red sands and in these in

529
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:21.440
<v Speaker 2>the different kinds of elements of the Earth and combine them.

530
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Their mindset was always creating these energetic structures around the world.

531
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<v Speaker 2>So where I'm getting at with all this, I just

532
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:33.960
<v Speaker 2>wanted to give that as for some people that don't know,

533
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:38.440
<v Speaker 2>is that what we're finding now is that when you

534
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:42.680
<v Speaker 2>specifically look at every key place like I just mentioned,

535
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:48.079
<v Speaker 2>you look at areas of Peru in Bolivia, look at Egypt,

536
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:51.920
<v Speaker 2>like the unfinished obelisk in Aswan, go look at the

537
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:57.680
<v Speaker 2>bulbeck Lebanon in the quarry, go the Yangshen China with

538
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:01.279
<v Speaker 2>the giant steely there, and and all the way across

539
00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:05.079
<v Speaker 2>the world to Easter Island. What you find is that

540
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:09.000
<v Speaker 2>the civilizations that lived there had reached the height of

541
00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:12.759
<v Speaker 2>their sophistication because they were creating the largest, by far

542
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:16.720
<v Speaker 2>structures they'd ever created. That obelisk in Egypt and Aswuan

543
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:19.319
<v Speaker 2>that was being taken out of the host rock would

544
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<v Speaker 2>have been more than double the size of any obelisk

545
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.720
<v Speaker 2>ever created in the world. The Moi statue in Easter

546
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:29.519
<v Speaker 2>Island that I just shared recently in a post that

547
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:32.079
<v Speaker 2>I was talking about that would have been two and

548
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<v Speaker 2>a half times a size of any Moi statue anywhere

549
00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:39.720
<v Speaker 2>on the at the four hundred plus moi statues that

550
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>would have been two and a half times the size

551
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<v Speaker 2>of any one they had on the island Okay. Go

552
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:49.640
<v Speaker 2>over to China Yangshen, we find there was a sixteen

553
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:54.519
<v Speaker 2>thousand pound, sixteen thousand ton stela that was about to

554
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:57.640
<v Speaker 2>be incorporating their structures. Would have been the largest single

555
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:01.400
<v Speaker 2>stone ever create a move and created into a structure

556
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.880
<v Speaker 2>in the world. Same thing at bulbeck Lebanon, in the

557
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:08.200
<v Speaker 2>quarry they were taking out these blocks. They were about

558
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:11.640
<v Speaker 2>to take one out that was twelve thousand tons, and

559
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.839
<v Speaker 2>what happened twelve hundred tons, I'm sorry, twelve hundred tons.

560
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:18.880
<v Speaker 2>What happened right in the middle of when they were

561
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.400
<v Speaker 2>creating the largest structures they've ever created all around the world,

562
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:26.319
<v Speaker 2>these places that are literally each different location around the world,

563
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:31.000
<v Speaker 2>they just vanished. They just disappeared and the projects were abandoned.

564
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:35.119
<v Speaker 2>And that really ties into how we know that there

565
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:39.240
<v Speaker 2>were catastrophes when we look at ice core samples, not

566
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:42.440
<v Speaker 2>only during the Younger Dryest, meaning the end of the

567
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Last ice Age twelve thousand years ago, but when Solon,

568
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:49.960
<v Speaker 2>when Solon met with the temple priests of Says Egypt,

569
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>If you read in the Timius and Credius, it says

570
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.880
<v Speaker 2>you Greeks remember one disaster deluge, but there have been

571
00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:59.759
<v Speaker 2>many that have come before. So really what we need

572
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:02.759
<v Speaker 2>to our heads around is that some of these civilizations

573
00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:07.480
<v Speaker 2>may have even been wiped out by a previous a

574
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:11.000
<v Speaker 2>cycle of disasters even before the younger Dryas. And how

575
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:14.599
<v Speaker 2>many of those civilizations have risen up and been destroyed

576
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:19.160
<v Speaker 2>We don't fully know. It's simply whatever survived through the

577
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:24.119
<v Speaker 2>sands of time and through all these different enormous epics

578
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:26.359
<v Speaker 2>of history to get to where we are now. So

579
00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:28.920
<v Speaker 2>we have to have an open mind to how far

580
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:32.440
<v Speaker 2>back our civilization goes on this planet.

581
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>How far do you think that is? Do you think

582
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>your two hundred thousand year timeline is pretty accurate?

583
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:42.440
<v Speaker 2>I do, And that's why I really try to not

584
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:47.640
<v Speaker 2>be closed minded, because remember the ancient Egyptians from says

585
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:50.599
<v Speaker 2>say you remember one deluge, but there have been many.

586
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Now what does that mean? Think about it for a minute. Well,

587
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:55.519
<v Speaker 2>we had to look climatologically. We can take ice cores

588
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:58.759
<v Speaker 2>from Greenland that go up to thirty thousand years, but

589
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:03.000
<v Speaker 2>we can take ice cores Antarctica that go five hundred

590
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:06.799
<v Speaker 2>thousand years. And what we find is that these are

591
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:09.599
<v Speaker 2>snapshots of the climate of history, is that there are

592
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:16.039
<v Speaker 2>cycles of catastrophes that have occurred here at these intervals. Okay, now,

593
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:21.079
<v Speaker 2>taking Solon's words from the ancient Egyptians, if there have

594
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:24.920
<v Speaker 2>been many that have come before of these catastrophes, then

595
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:27.440
<v Speaker 2>we just look at the ice core samples, we match

596
00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:29.839
<v Speaker 2>them up, go back three or four of them. When

597
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:33.640
<v Speaker 2>we do that, it aligns with the Sumerian king list

598
00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:36.720
<v Speaker 2>and the ERAQ list of kings and stages, the Barosis

599
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.880
<v Speaker 2>king list, as well as the Egyptian king lists known

600
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:43.799
<v Speaker 2>as the Turin Papyrus. It's the same thing they list

601
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:47.519
<v Speaker 2>these kings and these ruling rulerships that goes way further

602
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:50.559
<v Speaker 2>back than twelve thousand years. And so that's why we

603
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:55.319
<v Speaker 2>have to at least entertain the idea that our civilization

604
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:59.000
<v Speaker 2>and these cycles of catastrophes have gone back fifty one

605
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:03.200
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand, maybe two hundred thousand years of our history.

606
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I was gonna say, what I'd like about

607
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the research that you do is that you link a

608
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:10.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of these tablets together, Like you just mentioned the

609
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:14.039
<v Speaker 1>Sumerian kings list. You can link atra Hasis to that,

610
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>which you can link Gyolgamesh to that, which you can

611
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:18.800
<v Speaker 1>link the legend of Atona to that.

612
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:20.840
<v Speaker 3>And you even said the death of Bell gains right.

613
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's what's so exciting is that you take

614
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:28.000
<v Speaker 2>you create this theory based on the evidence left behind, right,

615
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Like we just said, these cycles of catastrophes and these

616
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:33.639
<v Speaker 2>kings that ruled for these lengthy amount of times, and

617
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:36.960
<v Speaker 2>then you go into the other separate tablets and you

618
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:40.599
<v Speaker 2>find the same king mentioned in a different tablet from

619
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:44.840
<v Speaker 2>a different civilization that talks about them. Right, Because the Sumerians,

620
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:51.280
<v Speaker 2>the Babylonians, the Assyrians, and the all these different the

621
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:56.360
<v Speaker 2>ancient Persian, zo or Astrian civilizations, all these different cultures

622
00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:59.960
<v Speaker 2>that have come and gone, have carried down the story

623
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:04.039
<v Speaker 2>of their ancestors in these canea form tablets, and they've

624
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 2>talked about these ancient kings and these bloodlines of the

625
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:10.679
<v Speaker 2>Anuna and these gods all throughout history. And yet and

626
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:13.599
<v Speaker 2>we're sometimes we're choosing to ignore that. But that's what's

627
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:17.960
<v Speaker 2>fascinating is that the last king on the Sumerian king

628
00:35:18.039 --> 00:35:21.119
<v Speaker 2>list that it says then the deluge swept over and

629
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:25.320
<v Speaker 2>essentially destroyed all the cities that once existed. That last

630
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<v Speaker 2>king was known as Ubaratutu and his son was Untande Pishtam,

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<v Speaker 2>who wrote the Atrajesis. That's the religious figure known as Noah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that king is also then discussed in the Death

633
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:43.880
<v Speaker 2>of Billigame's Tablet that that and the Epic of Gilgamesh,

634
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<v Speaker 2>tying this time period with the Legend of Atana into

635
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<v Speaker 2>these two distinctive time periods, the prediluvian or pre deluged

636
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:58.119
<v Speaker 2>cities of the younger Dryas that existed throughout the fertile

637
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:02.079
<v Speaker 2>cresset Mesopotamian area, and then when kingship was relowered again,

638
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:05.679
<v Speaker 2>the new cities and the new empires that emerged after that.

639
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<v Speaker 2>And that's why we have to separate very distinctly these

640
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<v Speaker 2>different time periods, because it says right in the Legend

641
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<v Speaker 2>of Atana, it states that after the old world was destroyed,

642
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<v Speaker 2>Atana was chosen to be the very first king and

643
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<v Speaker 2>the architect for the entire new world. And he was

644
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:27.599
<v Speaker 2>chosen because he had a certain bloodline to rule over

645
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:30.639
<v Speaker 2>the city of Kish. So Kish ends up becoming the

646
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<v Speaker 2>very first city that they had to relower. Kingship meanings

647
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:38.320
<v Speaker 2>civilization had to be recreated over again because those events

648
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<v Speaker 2>were so destructive they wiped out the entire civilization that

649
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:42.519
<v Speaker 2>existed before.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing, And what I was going to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing I think it's important that we need to

652
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<v Speaker 1>address is that like this isn't information from just like

653
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<v Speaker 1>Zacharias sichem. Like you went to Oxford University, You've studied

654
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<v Speaker 1>George Smith, Austin, Henry Lelier. I mean you could tell

655
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<v Speaker 1>the people, like all the people that you studied because

656
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:03.079
<v Speaker 1>there were foul sensition, even though he was a pioneer.

657
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<v Speaker 1>I think he was a great pioneer, but you went

658
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<v Speaker 1>to look in other places for your research, right.

659
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I did it because I wanted to become an expert

660
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:12.960
<v Speaker 2>on this, and in order to do that, I had

661
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:16.559
<v Speaker 2>to both be able to understand who the best translators were.

662
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:21.400
<v Speaker 2>And I firmly believe that the best translators. I mean

663
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<v Speaker 2>I often mentioned, you know, Stephanie Dally, George Smith, Samuel Kramer,

664
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:27.960
<v Speaker 2>but there are there are a couple others as well

665
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:32.000
<v Speaker 2>that have truly mastered their understanding of ancient Sumerian the

666
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:38.079
<v Speaker 2>Syrian cultures to translate these ancient tablets, and they uh what.

667
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:42.519
<v Speaker 2>Their translations all coincide with each other, and they mimic

668
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:46.079
<v Speaker 2>each other. And that's how you have correlation, through finding

669
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:50.320
<v Speaker 2>other translators that agree on the same information. And that's

670
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<v Speaker 2>why I put so much weight into those translations. I

671
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:57.079
<v Speaker 2>don't just read one translation. I'll read one translation from

672
00:37:57.079 --> 00:37:59.679
<v Speaker 2>one expert and then compare it to another one and

673
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:03.800
<v Speaker 2>then find where the truth is by where the most

674
00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:08.480
<v Speaker 2>experts have agreed on. And sometimes they even call out

675
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:11.400
<v Speaker 2>that they don't know what a particular word maybe means

676
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:13.840
<v Speaker 2>this or this, and that's where you have to get

677
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:17.000
<v Speaker 2>in and understand what that tablet is trying to say,

678
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:19.519
<v Speaker 2>to try to put the pieces together, because a lot

679
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:22.880
<v Speaker 2>of these tablets are so ancient that parts of them

680
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.639
<v Speaker 2>have broken off and been lost, and so we don't

681
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:30.280
<v Speaker 2>have all of the translations for every section. Sometimes we've

682
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:32.840
<v Speaker 2>lost entire parts of stories and we don't even know

683
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:37.119
<v Speaker 2>what they say. But oftentimes we can try to interpret

684
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:39.719
<v Speaker 2>what they would have said based on what came first

685
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:42.119
<v Speaker 2>and what came after, and then what's shared by another tablet,

686
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:46.320
<v Speaker 2>because usually these stories are carried on by multiple different

687
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 2>civilizations and different tablets, and it gives us an opportunity

688
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:50.480
<v Speaker 2>to fill in the pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my last question for you is this is I

690
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<v Speaker 1>always thought this was a fun one when you talked

691
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:59.639
<v Speaker 1>about when m Little says to Yankee, he says, where

692
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:02.079
<v Speaker 1>you went you were supposed to break the chains to

693
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:05.119
<v Speaker 1>set us free, And that always sat with me weird.

694
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:07.519
<v Speaker 3>I was like, what is that and what do they

695
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:09.639
<v Speaker 3>what do they mean by that, because it seems like that.

696
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Could be something so much deeper, Like what do you

697
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:13.320
<v Speaker 1>think he meant by that?

698
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:16.559
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, so that's in the Autrahasis and he says,

699
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:20.639
<v Speaker 2>so Enlil's talking to Anky and he's mad at him. Okay,

700
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:23.719
<v Speaker 2>he's mad at him because he wants He tells him

701
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:29.000
<v Speaker 2>that he essentially was in charge of humanity and their reality.

702
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:32.280
<v Speaker 2>And he says where you went, Anky, meaning the underworld,

703
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:35.559
<v Speaker 2>where you went, you were to undo the chain and

704
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:38.960
<v Speaker 2>set us free. And now that is something that is

705
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:42.440
<v Speaker 2>extensively talked about in the new book coming out, where

706
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:46.199
<v Speaker 2>I break down all of those tablets and really get

707
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:49.400
<v Speaker 2>into what some of the other experts I believed as

708
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:53.519
<v Speaker 2>well as what that meant should could have meant based

709
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:57.360
<v Speaker 2>on our understanding of the on Andochy. Now there are

710
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:02.239
<v Speaker 2>two distinct possibilities that seem to have come up in

711
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:05.840
<v Speaker 2>my mind or to probabilities of what that means based

712
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:08.079
<v Speaker 2>on everything I'm studying. A lot of people would jump

713
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:12.000
<v Speaker 2>on the concept of maybe that means manipulating DNA to

714
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:14.920
<v Speaker 2>undo the chain the chain of DNA in terms of

715
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:20.079
<v Speaker 2>us in our reality. The other possibility may have to

716
00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:23.519
<v Speaker 2>do with the creation of us, so it may be related.

717
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:28.159
<v Speaker 2>The idea is, if you are if we try to

718
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:30.320
<v Speaker 2>understand these Anna in a way where it's like a

719
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:32.920
<v Speaker 2>multi dimensional being that's like some kind of a creator here.

720
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:36.800
<v Speaker 2>They come here. They seem to have gotten trapped in

721
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:42.480
<v Speaker 2>our reality, perhaps through karma, because karmic energy is very real.

722
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:45.880
<v Speaker 2>You can get trapped somewhere, And I think maybe it

723
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.639
<v Speaker 2>relates to the idea of this whole fallen angel concept

724
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:53.880
<v Speaker 2>that's in later religions that we are Basically, they were

725
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:58.039
<v Speaker 2>trapped here and the way out was through us. Somehow,

726
00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:02.360
<v Speaker 2>through the creation of us allowed them to transcend into

727
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:04.719
<v Speaker 2>become eternal beings and to have to not have to

728
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:07.400
<v Speaker 2>be stuck in the domain of our reality. So it

729
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:11.440
<v Speaker 2>may have to do with we may be that escape

730
00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:14.760
<v Speaker 2>for them out of this reality somehow in this karmic

731
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:17.760
<v Speaker 2>reality because it states in a lot of tablets that

732
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:20.960
<v Speaker 2>these anuna were coming here far before humans were ever created.

733
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:24.159
<v Speaker 2>That's what it is, especially the numa Elish and others.

734
00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:27.000
<v Speaker 2>It states that they were coming here and creating far

735
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:30.960
<v Speaker 2>before us, and so perhaps that's why they ended up

736
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:33.519
<v Speaker 2>getting stuck somehow in this reality and then they had

737
00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:37.119
<v Speaker 2>to create us as a way out. It's it's hard

738
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:40.519
<v Speaker 2>to understand, but I would like to read I think

739
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.599
<v Speaker 2>we might get some answers here. I'd like to read

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00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:47.239
<v Speaker 2>a short passage from the Death of Bill Games. Now,

741
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:49.360
<v Speaker 2>this is a tablet that I don't think I've ever

742
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:51.920
<v Speaker 2>heard anyone ever talk about the Death of Bill Games

743
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:55.719
<v Speaker 2>ever in any discussions or any experts to talk about this,

744
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:57.960
<v Speaker 2>and I think they should because the Death of Bill

745
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Games is it's an ancient tablet that came out of

746
00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:05.079
<v Speaker 2>the city of Napur in Iraq, so that's an ancient

747
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:08.480
<v Speaker 2>land that was part of the Sumerian civilization. And this

748
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:12.239
<v Speaker 2>translation was done by Samuel Noah Kramer, who is one

749
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:15.039
<v Speaker 2>of the best translators in the world. Now I want

750
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:18.360
<v Speaker 2>to read some of this to give people an idea

751
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:20.199
<v Speaker 2>of how this might relate.

752
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:21.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So.

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00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.480
<v Speaker 2>For those who don't know, billa games was another name

754
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:28.920
<v Speaker 2>for Gilgamesh, which is what gets so fascinating about this,

755
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:33.199
<v Speaker 2>because Gilgamesh was the last of these ancient kings that

756
00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:36.559
<v Speaker 2>came after this the deluge of a certain blood line

757
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:42.199
<v Speaker 2>that came later, and he essentially was the last of

758
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:46.239
<v Speaker 2>these gods that was seeking immortality and had this certain

759
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:48.480
<v Speaker 2>blood line. He's a giant. That's why you can see

760
00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:51.840
<v Speaker 2>depictions of him and murals holding this this full grown

761
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:55.000
<v Speaker 2>lion that looks like a cat, because he was one

762
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:57.840
<v Speaker 2>of these Nephelim giant kings that ruled, and he was

763
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<v Speaker 2>in my research, he may have been one of the

764
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:04.280
<v Speaker 2>last ones as well. So this is just a piece

765
00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:06.079
<v Speaker 2>of it, and I just want to read this and

766
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:07.800
<v Speaker 2>then break it down for a minute because I think

767
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:11.679
<v Speaker 2>it's fascinating. So I'm going to just read the beginning,

768
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:15.239
<v Speaker 2>get a little bit of a background before I get

769
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:17.199
<v Speaker 2>into the parts that we're going to break down. So

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00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:19.840
<v Speaker 2>we have a concept of that, and this directly relates

771
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:23.960
<v Speaker 2>to the epic of Gilgamesh. It's from that same story.

772
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:28.280
<v Speaker 2>So it says in the Assembly the Place of the

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00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Gods ceremonial when the Lord Billigames had drawn nigh, they

774
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:36.440
<v Speaker 2>said to him. While Lord bill Games sat down in

775
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:40.039
<v Speaker 2>this case, having traveled each and every road, because he

776
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:44.000
<v Speaker 2>went on these great journeys, having fetched that cedar, the

777
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:47.559
<v Speaker 2>unique tree, from its mountain, after you smote Hojuana in

778
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:52.400
<v Speaker 2>this forest, having erected stelle for future days forever, in

779
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:56.639
<v Speaker 2>a stella steele a are these giant like a coat

780
00:43:56.679 --> 00:44:00.880
<v Speaker 2>of Hammurabi, these huge tablets that essentially have these codes

781
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:03.519
<v Speaker 2>and these rules that we find all around the world.

782
00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 2>We find them in the ancient Maya, the Aztec, the Inca,

783
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:09.639
<v Speaker 2>all the way through Egypt and into the Mesopotamia. So

784
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:12.960
<v Speaker 2>this was an important way to lead behind a certain message.

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00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:18.320
<v Speaker 2>He goes on to say, having founded temples of the gods.

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00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:23.159
<v Speaker 2>Remember he was a king of Uruk. You reached Zaya Sudra,

787
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:27.480
<v Speaker 2>who was Untapischtam. Zayas Sudra was the name used for Untipishtam,

788
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:31.519
<v Speaker 2>the last king of Shrupak in the Epic of Gilgamesh.

789
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Having reached Untipischtam in his abode, and we'll break this down.

790
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:40.360
<v Speaker 2>After you brought to the land the means of summer

791
00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:47.199
<v Speaker 2>that were forever that were forgotten forever the commandments and rights,

792
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:52.800
<v Speaker 2>and he goes on to say the flood that destroyed

793
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:58.480
<v Speaker 2>the inhabited regions as well as all foreign lands. Now

794
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Bill of Games should not be taken away just like that,

795
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:05.880
<v Speaker 2>as in he's dying, he should rule in the underworld.

796
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:10.159
<v Speaker 2>That was the end Lil's advice that they gave Anki,

797
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:13.480
<v Speaker 2>and then they go on to have a conversation. Anki

798
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:17.760
<v Speaker 2>answered on an Endlil, this is what Nki says. In

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00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:21.639
<v Speaker 2>far off years, after the Assembly had made the deluge

800
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:26.320
<v Speaker 2>sweep over so that we could destroy the seed of mankind,

801
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:31.719
<v Speaker 2>we said in our midst you are the only man living.

802
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Zia Soudra is the name of humanity living. From that

803
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:39.639
<v Speaker 2>day I swore by the life of heaven and earth.

804
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:42.880
<v Speaker 2>From that day I swore that mankind will not have

805
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:48.400
<v Speaker 2>eternal life. Okay, that is one of my favorite passages

806
00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:51.360
<v Speaker 2>from any tablet, and because it has so many crossovers

807
00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:53.760
<v Speaker 2>of other tablets. Now, let's start just to break this

808
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:57.199
<v Speaker 2>down from the beginning. In the Assembly, the Assembly is

809
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:00.800
<v Speaker 2>essentially the Council of twelve. It's the Royal Nuna that

810
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:04.559
<v Speaker 2>had an assembly that they were essentially discussing and determining

811
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:08.079
<v Speaker 2>the fates, and they taught they called them fates, the

812
00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:12.199
<v Speaker 2>fates of humanity. They decided everything, and they ruled through

813
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:16.599
<v Speaker 2>these royal centers on earth, like Aridu and others. They

814
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:19.000
<v Speaker 2>talk about how bill Games went on this bill Games,

815
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:21.360
<v Speaker 2>and it was Gilgamesh went on this great journey to

816
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:27.159
<v Speaker 2>find immortality and to seek Zayas sudr Undapishtim who is

817
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:30.320
<v Speaker 2>in the underworld. That's what the entire story is. He's

818
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:33.800
<v Speaker 2>already this immortal being in the underworld that no longer

819
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:37.079
<v Speaker 2>is physical, ot way after the events of the deluge.

820
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:40.119
<v Speaker 2>And then he talks about how you brought to the

821
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:45.440
<v Speaker 2>land the means of Sumer that were forgotten forever. What

822
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:50.280
<v Speaker 2>does that mean? Remember how he was erecting these delays. Well,

823
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:53.880
<v Speaker 2>the mes are these commandments and rights like it says

824
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:56.440
<v Speaker 2>for how a civilization is going to be created and ruled,

825
00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:00.639
<v Speaker 2>and it states that he brought them to back to

826
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:04.079
<v Speaker 2>the land of Sumer and then afterwards where they were

827
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:09.199
<v Speaker 2>forgotten forever. So something happened after Gilgamesh when all of

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00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:12.440
<v Speaker 2>these the kingship and these laws and rules had been

829
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:15.639
<v Speaker 2>forgotten and lost. And then it goes on to state

830
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:22.360
<v Speaker 2>talks about how the flood that destroyed the inhabited regions

831
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.280
<v Speaker 2>as well as all foreign lands. It's talking about a

832
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:29.239
<v Speaker 2>global catastrophe that wiped out civilizations all around the world.

833
00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:32.159
<v Speaker 2>That's what that means. And then it goes on to

834
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<v Speaker 2>talk about how the Assembly had made the deluge sweep over.

835
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<v Speaker 2>Just like it says in the entrahesis, they had decided

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<v Speaker 2>that they wanted to wipe out humanity by allowing or

837
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<v Speaker 2>creating this catastrophe on Earth through a series of events

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<v Speaker 2>that would maybe completely alter the poles and shift all

839
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.639
<v Speaker 2>the tectonic plates and maybe set off tsunamis around the world,

840
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:01.480
<v Speaker 2>and all the volcanoes and all the incredible things that

841
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:04.760
<v Speaker 2>may be related to solar impacts and maybe even cosmic

842
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:08.239
<v Speaker 2>impacts outside of that. And then it says, so they

843
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:11.079
<v Speaker 2>could destroy the seed of mankind, they wanted to start

844
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:15.639
<v Speaker 2>over again. They wanted our entire species to literally disappear forever,

845
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:20.280
<v Speaker 2>to never exist again. And then it goes on to

846
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:26.760
<v Speaker 2>state that basically from after Zayasudra Untapishtam, who was the

847
00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:29.480
<v Speaker 2>last king of Sharrupak who had survived that was a

848
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Noah figure that had survived, states that he was the

849
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:35.760
<v Speaker 2>last man that was ever given eternal life ever again.

850
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:40.800
<v Speaker 2>And then what happened. Human lifespans start going shorter and

851
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:44.320
<v Speaker 2>shorter and shorter until they're only about one hundred years

852
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:50.360
<v Speaker 2>from thousands, which exactly coincides to what the tablet state

853
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:53.480
<v Speaker 2>within these being like immortal beings at one point and

854
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:57.800
<v Speaker 2>then becoming mortal later on. So I find I find that,

855
00:48:57.920 --> 00:48:59.239
<v Speaker 2>and the death of Bill Games is one of the

856
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:01.239
<v Speaker 2>ones that's going to be just in the new book.

857
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<v Speaker 2>So I find that to be a fascinating way to

858
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:06.639
<v Speaker 2>connect all of these ancient stories in our understanding of

859
00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:09.159
<v Speaker 2>the past, to try to figure out where we've come from.

860
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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I agree. And what was so interesting is you

861
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:13.159
<v Speaker 3>mentioned themes.

862
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:16.199
<v Speaker 1>I remember in the other story with Anana and Yankees,

863
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:18.760
<v Speaker 1>she tries to get aanky drunk so she can take

864
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:21.880
<v Speaker 1>themes off him. So they were always with these mes,

865
00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:23.599
<v Speaker 1>like trying to figure out civilization.

866
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<v Speaker 3>I guess those were like the blueprints for reality.

867
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's exactly. They were like the blueprints for all

868
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:32.719
<v Speaker 2>of civilization. But more importantly, they also had energetic purposes

869
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:36.159
<v Speaker 2>as well. They seem to be almost like this this

870
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:40.960
<v Speaker 2>set of sacred materials and tablets that had energetic ways

871
00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:45.239
<v Speaker 2>where almost like the if you had them, you had

872
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:49.119
<v Speaker 2>all the power to rule over an entire area, if

873
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:50.840
<v Speaker 2>you had them in your midst because it talks about

874
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:53.519
<v Speaker 2>people used to steal them, like you just said, other

875
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:56.199
<v Speaker 2>gods would steal them, they would lose them, and then

876
00:49:56.199 --> 00:49:58.639
<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't build a rule any longer. So it's something

877
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:02.159
<v Speaker 2>just beyond like a set of stones, something far greater,

878
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:05.719
<v Speaker 2>or it seems to be maybe something almost like inherently

879
00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:10.920
<v Speaker 2>relatable to something like the emerald tablets or something related

880
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:14.760
<v Speaker 2>to something some kind of an alchemical structure material with

881
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:18.159
<v Speaker 2>these divine rights and commandments that if you have them

882
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:20.480
<v Speaker 2>you can rule. You have all this power to rule

883
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:24.519
<v Speaker 2>over regions in civilizations, and that those said. It says

884
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<v Speaker 2>in that though, that after Gilgamesh that they were forever

885
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<v Speaker 2>forgotten and lost, which is fascinating how you look at

886
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:36.960
<v Speaker 2>civilization dramatically changed after that and became very warlike. After

887
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:40.280
<v Speaker 2>that time period. You started having empires rise up that

888
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:43.320
<v Speaker 2>just constantly, we're going to war with one another, and

889
00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:45.880
<v Speaker 2>we forgot who we are, and that's how we ended

890
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:49.599
<v Speaker 2>up down this path after the Roman Empire becoming a

891
00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:52.320
<v Speaker 2>bit more of a warlike species that forgot our connection

892
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:53.519
<v Speaker 2>with the universe and the Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally agree.

894
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<v Speaker 1>And my last question for you is do you agree

895
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<v Speaker 1>with like how Gerald thought and other people, lot of

896
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:02.760
<v Speaker 1>people think that we're in a holographic reality and how

897
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<v Speaker 1>do you think that ties into the Anuna.

898
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a holographic reality because it's a reality that's

899
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:12.719
<v Speaker 2>not physical, so holographic meaning it's this non physical reality

900
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:16.239
<v Speaker 2>that we can't really see or touch, but it exists

901
00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:20.159
<v Speaker 2>beyond that. And in that way, because our we were

902
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:23.199
<v Speaker 2>defined to our five senses, and because we live in

903
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:25.280
<v Speaker 2>this this reality where we can just see the seven

904
00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:29.840
<v Speaker 2>colors of visible light centers visible light spectrum, we are

905
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:33.400
<v Speaker 2>very limited to understanding so much of the spectrum outside

906
00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:36.280
<v Speaker 2>of that and even seeing reality in any of the

907
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:39.039
<v Speaker 2>components that make up for it. And so the holographic

908
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:42.800
<v Speaker 2>nature of it is that we we live in basically

909
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:45.039
<v Speaker 2>like super string theory talked about how it's just the

910
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:48.920
<v Speaker 2>vibrating strings of energy that define all reality and everything

911
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:53.639
<v Speaker 2>can just be defined into vibration, and that we because

912
00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:57.360
<v Speaker 2>we don't see that or feel it often, that we

913
00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:00.800
<v Speaker 2>really do live in like this holographic nature reality. And

914
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:03.280
<v Speaker 2>then we often don't even know what we're doing here.

915
00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:06.960
<v Speaker 2>We're just sort of existing without really knowing our true purpose.

916
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that sounds that sounds about right. Well, I don't

917
00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:13.719
<v Speaker 1>have any other questions. Is there anything else you want

918
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:16.760
<v Speaker 1>to go over before we finish up for tonight or

919
00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:18.920
<v Speaker 1>do you just want to give your website and stuff.

920
00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Or yeah, just I'll just give people some updates. Really

921
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:26.159
<v Speaker 2>a lot of very exciting things coming up for in

922
00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:29.400
<v Speaker 2>the in the near future. So again, The Epic of Humanity,

923
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:33.519
<v Speaker 2>a two year project, is finally releasing next month. Billy

924
00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:36.599
<v Speaker 2>Carson and I we're picking covers right now and finalizing

925
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:39.360
<v Speaker 2>everything inside, and then we're going to be going on

926
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:42.159
<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of speaking tours and different things to

927
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:47.000
<v Speaker 2>promote that. Give a shout out to Fifth Kind with

928
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:50.000
<v Speaker 2>with everyone over there, so we can basically, you know,

929
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Tony and Paul go on and talk about that on

930
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:55.079
<v Speaker 2>there where I have a number of other channels we're

931
00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:57.559
<v Speaker 2>going to be going on. And then Billy and I

932
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:00.400
<v Speaker 2>and Jay Campbell are going to be going to Peru

933
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:03.400
<v Speaker 2>in Bolivia at the end of November to do like

934
00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:08.159
<v Speaker 2>an ancient megalithic tour of a lot of mach Machu Picchu,

935
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Sasquaman oy A, t Tombo over to Lake Titty Kaka

936
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:16.440
<v Speaker 2>and pum Pumku and Tijuanaku to do an Ancient History

937
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Megalithic Tour. I do a ton of filming. We're going

938
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:21.280
<v Speaker 2>to do lots of videos and get a lot of content,

939
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:25.320
<v Speaker 2>and then I want people to look forward to me

940
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:29.400
<v Speaker 2>finally being presenting at the Conscious Life Expo in Los

941
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Angeles in February, So if you want to come, makes

942
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:33.480
<v Speaker 2>you get tickets to be able to come meet me

943
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:35.880
<v Speaker 2>and see me, and I'll be doing a whole presentation

944
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:38.639
<v Speaker 2>on some some really cool stuff there. So you know,

945
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:41.280
<v Speaker 2>look forward to a lot of those other exciting things

946
00:53:41.320 --> 00:53:46.719
<v Speaker 2>coming up. And then I have a something else potentially

947
00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:48.920
<v Speaker 2>happening in December that I hopefully can announce at some

948
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:49.760
<v Speaker 2>point coming up too.

949
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<v Speaker 3>So you're Ancient Civilizations with Gaya, right.

950
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:56.599
<v Speaker 2>I I was on many many episodes of Ancient Civilizations

951
00:53:56.639 --> 00:53:59.400
<v Speaker 2>season four on Gaya, and I also was I played

952
00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:03.159
<v Speaker 2>a big part writing and helping design those episodes, So

953
00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:05.440
<v Speaker 2>I hope people can check that out. And I have

954
00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:07.480
<v Speaker 2>we have a number of new shows. Billy Carson and

955
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:10.599
<v Speaker 2>I just did an open Minds on Gaya with Regina

956
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Meredith and there's another Beyond Belief coming out with me

957
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:16.559
<v Speaker 2>and so I'm gonna be going on coast to coast

958
00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:18.559
<v Speaker 2>am with Billy once the book is released. So we

959
00:54:18.599 --> 00:54:20.280
<v Speaker 2>have a whole bunch of stuff that we're going to

960
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:22.239
<v Speaker 2>be doing in the future that everyone can look forward to.

961
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<v Speaker 2>So I really appreciate everyone supporting my work. And Rob,

962
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:29.239
<v Speaker 2>it was it was great to talk to you. I

963
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:32.960
<v Speaker 2>know you you have a very good knowledge base of

964
00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:35.159
<v Speaker 2>this that makes it easy to be able to get deep,

965
00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:37.159
<v Speaker 2>really deep into some of these topics.

966
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:39.599
<v Speaker 3>Thank you. That's that's awesome.

967
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:41.840
<v Speaker 1>That's a real compliment coming from you, because I've really

968
00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:43.599
<v Speaker 1>looked up to your work. I've looked up to it

969
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:45.519
<v Speaker 1>for a while, and like I love the fact that

970
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:48.440
<v Speaker 1>you're succeeding and you like you're kind of like living

971
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:51.159
<v Speaker 1>out your dreams, like you know, I just like I

972
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:53.280
<v Speaker 1>love to see that because you deserve it. All the

973
00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:56.360
<v Speaker 1>work you put in from your early videos to now,

974
00:54:56.480 --> 00:55:00.119
<v Speaker 1>like you're just becoming like a mastermind in our in

975
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<v Speaker 1>our in our field.

976
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<v Speaker 3>You know, thank you so much.

977
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate that. Such a that's a wonderful thing

978
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<v Speaker 2>to say.

979
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<v Speaker 4>I I thank you for that, and could you want

980
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:11.000
<v Speaker 4>to tell everybody in your website here wed My website

981
00:55:11.079 --> 00:55:14.119
<v Speaker 4>is the Stage of Time dot com and my YouTube

982
00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:15.320
<v Speaker 4>is Matthew Lacroix.

983
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:20.599
<v Speaker 2>And guys, don't forget we have an Instagram title we've

984
00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:23.440
<v Speaker 2>already established for the Epic of Humanity, and we're gonna

985
00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:25.639
<v Speaker 2>a website as well coming out. So look forward to

986
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:27.079
<v Speaker 2>all that. And I guess one more thing I want

987
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:29.280
<v Speaker 2>to mention that I forgot is if you've been watching

988
00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Billy Carson's network, I have a big my own show

989
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:35.800
<v Speaker 2>coming out in his network next month called Mystery School

990
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:38.400
<v Speaker 2>of Truth that he put in we both put a

991
00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:41.239
<v Speaker 2>lot of effort and work into, and so I can't

992
00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:43.239
<v Speaker 2>wait for that to be released because that's a pretty

993
00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:46.440
<v Speaker 2>high budget show where I did all I was the

994
00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:48.320
<v Speaker 2>I did. It was a solo show that I did

995
00:55:48.679 --> 00:55:51.920
<v Speaker 2>all a whole host of topics and all kinds of graphics,

996
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:54.440
<v Speaker 2>and it's going to be really cool. So check that out.

997
00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:57.920
<v Speaker 3>And there's the Truth on there too, right yeap.

998
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Season one of Decoders of Truth is is now out

999
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:03.119
<v Speaker 2>fully and then we're going to be filming season two

1000
00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:05.679
<v Speaker 2>of Dakoders of Truth in Peru Oblivia in November.

1001
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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. That's awesome. Well, thank you so much for

1002
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:10.320
<v Speaker 1>doing this. Then we'll have to do it again.

1003
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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much, Rob. I hope you have a great

1004
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<v Speaker 2>rest of your day.

1005
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<v Speaker 3>Thanks you to have a good one. Thanks,
