WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.359 --> 00:00:13.880 Hello, everyone, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. I 2 00:00:14.039 --> 00:00:16.399 am Mike Bahardy. It is episode ninety here as always 3 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:22.440 with Dan Riker, Hello and Mary kish No. See which 4 00:00:22.440 --> 00:00:24.239 one of them was gonna do a merry impression? 5 00:00:24.280 --> 00:00:28.359 Oh wait, Mike, are we making history tonight on this fires? 6 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:30.239 Is this the first time we've done four people? 7 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:30.719 It is? 8 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:33.880 We're making history? Or who could it be? People are asking. 9 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:35.200 Who is that? You ask? 10 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:36.920 That's Mike Manatti. 11 00:00:37.399 --> 00:00:37.600 Hi. 12 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:40.359 I would never try to do an impression of Mary. 13 00:00:40.560 --> 00:00:42.560 She was very scary last time I was here. 14 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:44.719 Mary's a baby. 15 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:46.600 And Jeff Grubb is also joining us. 16 00:00:46.640 --> 00:00:49.200 It's the Internet, You're brazy. Let's do this. Welcome to 17 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:52.799 the Game As Decides Podcast. How Jeff Rubbed Me is 18 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:54.039 a couple of pros here. 19 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:54.240 You know. 20 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:56.679 I noticed that Jeff Grubb came in on time and 21 00:00:56.840 --> 00:00:57.679 wasn't muted. 22 00:00:57.439 --> 00:00:59.280 For a while, and listen. 23 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:02.200 I would never do that. Oh my god, you. 24 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:04.480 To be clear. 25 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:07.640 You've done this for a while, Grub, you're apro was 26 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:09.599 ready to go and then you're like, oh, we we 27 00:01:09.640 --> 00:01:10.519 have to record some ads. 28 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:12.000 I'll let you guys know we're ready. I was like, OK, 29 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:13.439 you got with the punch. 30 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:17.680 And I still scent it before the time I told you, 31 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:20.159 even with the ads considered, so that doesn't count. 32 00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:24.159 I can check the eight fifty seven pm yes notation 33 00:01:24.239 --> 00:01:24.680 on my phone. 34 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:26.319 It was my bad. I'm sorry, Okay, I. 35 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:28.120 Just want people to get window into the nightmare it 36 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:31.680 is working with Mike and yeah, it's really unpleasant. 37 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:35.640 Mike and Jeff are both previous guests separately on the podcast, 38 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:37.799 both times when I was not here. Mike, you and 39 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:40.680 I did Hell Divers together the bonus episode. But did 40 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:42.319 we We haven't done an episode, I don't think. No. 41 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:44.840 No, yeah, we did Hell Divers. We bonded over Lord 42 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:47.079 of the Rings, and uh, I thought we bonded. 43 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:49.879 We built up, we built up some good will. We're 44 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:51.040 really like getting to know each other. 45 00:01:51.079 --> 00:01:53.280 And then I accidentally called you Matt and just you know, 46 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:55.319 completely reverse direction there. 47 00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:56.760 Unfortunately it could be only one mic. 48 00:01:57.040 --> 00:02:00.799 You said it in person to Dan at Seattle as. 49 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:05.920 Well, begged him not to tell you. What was the content? 50 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:09.280 Why were we recording you talking about him? No, we 51 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:14.080 didn't record it at all. We were talking about him. 52 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:21.319 We were at the j W Drinks in liked right away, okay, 53 00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:21.759 got it? 54 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:23.360 Just a mean jerk that. 55 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:28.280 Wow, both don't remember Mike and Jeff are from Game 56 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:29.560 mess podcasts. 57 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:30.840 Yeah, whatever, you guess. 58 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:32.560 It's kind of messed up that you invited us both 59 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:34.759 because this will be Mike, is this four podcasts we're 60 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:38.599 doing together this week? Christian wanted us to do Columbro, 61 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:42.680 so that would have been five. Definitely not happening now. Wow, yeah, 62 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:45.439 god you guys, this is This is the fourth one 63 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:48.000 right now. We're doing a fifth one tomorrow. Oh is 64 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:48.479 that true? 65 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:51.479 We did yesterday, we did two today, we're doing a 66 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:54.240 fifth tomorrow. Oh my god, you have the dog one. 67 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:56.400 I like the dog gimmick. Thank you, thank you. I 68 00:02:56.479 --> 00:02:57.240 like our dog gimmick. 69 00:02:57.360 --> 00:02:59.960 Although we did our Nintendo podcast yesterday and then like 70 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:03.240 the fun Nintendo stuff happened today when we're recording with 71 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:06.439 this Power World lawsuit and like the Switch two leaks 72 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:07.199 and all this stuff. 73 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:09.520 But that's okay. They hate us, we know. I'm sure 74 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:11.280 we'll get it into later in the news section. 75 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:12.520 Oh, we'll break it all down. 76 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:17.680 I think a section is gonna go a bit long. 77 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:28.560 The Roman Dissonance of the week, the on we long time. 78 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:31.159 All the stars are here, but yeah, I'm out numbered 79 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:32.719 by giant Bombers tonight. 80 00:03:33.159 --> 00:03:37.120 Mm hmm yeah, sorry, games Mess, cross Giant Bomb, cross 81 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:38.319 Fire Escape here, look at that. 82 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:40.520 That's right, games Mess, Game Mess. 83 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:42.400 It's game. 84 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:44.800 It's a play on Summer Game Fest because it was 85 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:46.560 originally Summer Game Mess. 86 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:48.759 It was right, and it was Jeff Grubbs Summer Game Mess. 87 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:50.879 When I was like poking at at Jeff Keeley, which 88 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.080 what I never I would never do today. Very respectful 89 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:56.879 of them, yes, just like hard Drive like, oh yeah, listen, 90 00:03:56.879 --> 00:03:59.960 I just let hard Drive do all the work. It's fine. Yeah, 91 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:01.560 And so we were poking at it and now that 92 00:04:01.639 --> 00:04:03.080 was like, oh, I was telling people like when stuff 93 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:05.280 would happen before that it was announced and things like that, 94 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:07.879 and that's just now. The Patreon Patreon dot com slash 95 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:09.479 game mets and you two. 96 00:04:09.319 --> 00:04:12.159 Goes near each other as well. Right, pretty cool, North Northeast, 97 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:15.120 Ohio up eighty five minutes, eighty five minute dry. We're 98 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:17.160 actually hang out this weekend. 99 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:18.959 Classic Games. 100 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:21.879 Yeah, there's a big video video game convention, like a 101 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:26.879 retro gaming convention at the big Springfield door, not a Springfield. 102 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:29.959 It's in Cleveland, but there's a lot of venders. 103 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:31.759 We can't do and go to Springfield anymore. They ate 104 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:34.879 all the consoles there, but they're just going nuts there 105 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:38.240 nuts with television. They ate the Sega Saturns. 106 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:39.680 It's terrible. Oh my god. 107 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:44.000 I was really confused because I live right by a Springfield, Ohio, 108 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:47.079 and I was like, I was like, first I ever 109 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:47.800 heard about this? 110 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:51.240 What like, what's going on? And I had to look. 111 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:54.040 Turns out that the Springfield I'm by has been named 112 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:58.360 New Springfield this entire time, probably because it was the 113 00:04:58.399 --> 00:04:59.560 second Springfield And. 114 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:02.600 Can we should just do Shelbyville at that point? You should. 115 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:06.160 Mike Mahrty doesn't get that reference. 116 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:08.240 I watched enough Simpsons more. 117 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:09.839 You're more of a Futurama guy. I get it. 118 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:13.079 Yeah, I think is a front runner for like the 119 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:15.879 possible location of Springfield from the Simpsons right. 120 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:18.160 Well, that that's it's never had a real thing. The 121 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:20.560 whole point was, there's the most named thing in the 122 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:24.079 in the country. To believe spring Mike hasn't seen Simpsons. 123 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:26.439 He's more of a he used to until I blocked 124 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:31.000 him on Instagram. Just send me wine memes, put over 125 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:34.920 the office US clips and uh lately I think I 126 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:36.839 unblocked him and send those to me. 127 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:39.519 I send those to you. No, No, I'm saying you 128 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:40.480 go ahead and send those to me. 129 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:42.240 I send you the Undertaker one. 130 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:46.160 Yes, you moved on to wrestling wine memes. Undertaker sitting 131 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:47.959 up out of the coffin. Bo, wouldn't you smell a 132 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:48.399 good shirt? 133 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:53.839 You're butchering a very good meme. No, Mike makes a 134 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:54.199 good point. 135 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:57.879 I think these two mics are way more alike than 136 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:00.800 people might first realize, because I think they are both 137 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:04.600 into their various alcoholic beverages to a similar degree. Like 138 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:06.639 Mike cares about whiskey that much. I'm obviously you do. 139 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:09.519 Too, Like I think. I think Mike the first, may 140 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:10.839 I call you Mike the first. 141 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:17.399 He's been very differential ever since he got aname wrong 142 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:19.160 and said that I thought we were best friend? 143 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:21.879 No, how did you phrase it? He thinks we're best friends. 144 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:25.319 I think a lot of people are his best friend. Yeah, 145 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:27.040 it's not a good play up. 146 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:30.839 The meme was it was like when you open a 147 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:34.079 bottle of When you open a bottle of like d 148 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:36.079 r C you thought was dead, there's the Undertaker coming 149 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:37.319 up out of his coffin and choking. 150 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:45.160 Was that triple h? Remember your wine meme? Exactly Undertaker. 151 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:48.600 So Triple H is this guy who works at w 152 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:51.279 I think he's still at w w E. He's related 153 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:53.879 to the rest of the family that owns. 154 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:54.120 Married in. 155 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:59.759 Them. Mcmahonks mahons. 156 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:02.839 Yeah, you got Leam and Ryan and Doyle mcoyle. 157 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:04.480 We did. 158 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:07.319 We did a black club recently, me and our two 159 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:09.439 guests here and I asked, I was talking to Bank 160 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:11.199 about just gohing man. Black club's so good and just 161 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:14.120 you know, the chemistry is so easy. And I asked her. 162 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:16.879 I was like, who am I more similar to between 163 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:20.480 Grub and Manati? And she started saying Manati and then 164 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:23.879 she stopped and she goes, No, Manati's pretty extreme. 165 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:25.160 You're more like Grub. 166 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:27.519 Extreme in what way? 167 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:35.000 Yeah? This year collaborate boarding, you know, Yeah, every time 168 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:37.639 he goes to Disney. That's what he's like known for. Yeah, 169 00:07:37.839 --> 00:07:41.560 you guys know about it. Extremely Goofy movie. No, yeah, 170 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:44.240 because you literally told me all about it two days ago. 171 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:46.759 So there's a Goofy movie from the nineties and it's, 172 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:49.680 you know, a beloved millennial classic, but in the early 173 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:53.600 two thousands straight to DVD, an extremely Goofy movie where 174 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:56.560 Goofy's son goes to college, but Goofy also goes to 175 00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:59.879 college and they both get involved with the X Games. 176 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:10.639 It's fantastic, right, No, absolutely, they're all dogs. Come on, yeah, dog. 177 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:14.959 Pluto is like not anthropomorphic though, right, No, so he's dog. 178 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:17.920 You're like ten years ten years behind on like Disney 179 00:08:17.959 --> 00:08:19.319 fan means we've all had. 180 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:22.480 Oh no, god, I feel like a dork now. 181 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:26.920 That's actually what really kicked off. 182 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:30.319 Uh, Mike and my relationship was when I made fun 183 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:33.799 of Disney adults and like you and you reached out 184 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:34.799 very cordially. 185 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:39.519 It was like a whole middle finger. Yeah via email. 186 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:41.399 Time, get to know him a little bit better. It 187 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:45.159 won't be cordial the next time. I always get it. 188 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:48.399 What actually turns everybody around is going to Disneyland with me. 189 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:51.759 It turns out everybody good time, it was good, It 190 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:54.279 was good. It would be going to gayl Pari with 191 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:56.919 with Mike Maharty, like the Disneyland of Wine. 192 00:08:57.039 --> 00:08:59.559 Maharty would be so easy with with disney World, even 193 00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:00.080 because there's so. 194 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:01.399 Because you could just get them drunk. 195 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:03.679 Yeah, well, because disney World is so big, it's so 196 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:06.759 many things, like I could I could make a good 197 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:10.159 at least three day vacation for anybody in the world. 198 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:12.200 Less they're gonna just be a complete like fuddy duddy 199 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:14.679 and just like not want to give in a little bit. 200 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:19.240 You Yeah, that might be rough, like but that might 201 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:19.679 be rough. 202 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:21.879 But like with Mike, there's so many like Like there's 203 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:25.440 like the one restaurant in the Animal Kingdom Lodge resort 204 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:28.440 that has like like the largest selection of I think 205 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:31.000 South African wines in the country or something like that. 206 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:31.519 So it's like. 207 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:34.519 Mentioned in the email, and I was intrigued for sure. 208 00:09:34.600 --> 00:09:35.879 Right, So you like that. And there's a bunch of 209 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:36.519 other like great one. 210 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:39.759 There's a place called Wine Bar George with of Somalier 211 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:42.320 who who opened that there, And there's a lot of 212 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:44.879 amazing wines there and good food and stuff like that. 213 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:48.440 Just great restaurants in general, especially like honestly, at my age, 214 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:50.360 that's the thing I look forward to the most in 215 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:53.200 Disney World now is the restaurants almost more than anything else. 216 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:54.960 Is good. 217 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:57.399 You've taken me, you've taken grub, You've gone with Ben Hanson, 218 00:09:57.399 --> 00:10:00.279 although Hanson's probably not a hard cell, but know it, 219 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:02.879 it is hard to have a bad time, all right. 220 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:05.000 I would shoot at one of the best times in 221 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:07.080 my life that day. That was so much fun. 222 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:07.559 It was. 223 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:11.080 Yeah, is disney World or Land or both the ones 224 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:14.840 with the like the food stalls from around the world. 225 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:17.200 Epcott was the first one to do that, and now 226 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:19.559 they kind of they kind of copy it in Disneyland 227 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:22.200 in the California Adventure Park now because it was so 228 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:25.639 successful in Epclot. It's not quite as hot over there, 229 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:27.679 but yeah, Epcot's a one with that, and with the 230 00:10:27.759 --> 00:10:29.799 drinking around the world thing because they have all the 231 00:10:29.799 --> 00:10:32.559 different areas seemed to different countries and so you can 232 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:35.799 get like a margarita at Mexico and then get a 233 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:38.840 beer at Germany and some wine at Italy, and you 234 00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:39.399 know you can. 235 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:42.519 Yeah, beer Garden is the one I'm kind of annoyed 236 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:43.720 that we're not gonna be going to because we're in 237 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:45.360 a Disney World for the first time with the family 238 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:48.240 in November and we just made all our reservations because 239 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:49.440 you got to make them sixty days out and the 240 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:50.639 beer Garden was what I was looking at. 241 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:52.720 It was like that looks like a very good time. Yeah, 242 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:53.200 beer Garden. 243 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:55.399 It's a German themed and they like have like a 244 00:10:55.440 --> 00:10:56.960 band right and even have like a guy with one 245 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:58.159 of the ricola horns. 246 00:10:58.240 --> 00:10:58.440 You know. 247 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:01.039 So that's fun and it's a a Fay style thing. 248 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:03.399 But yeah, one thing I'll. 249 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:05.759 Say, Mike, and I was very honest about my trip 250 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:08.440 to disney World or Disneyland. You talk with the restaurants. 251 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:12.360 I don't know how Krthay Circle is generally considered. I 252 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:16.679 thought it was fine. I think I think some people 253 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:19.679 are maybe there with that. I didn't even eat a 254 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:21.200 full meal there, I don't I'm. 255 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:22.840 Sorry, what is this karth? They sure? 256 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:25.480 We had dinner at Disneyland, and I was told like, oh, 257 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:27.879 this is the one and it was very expensive. Uh, 258 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:31.320 and but it's gimmicked, like it's that's it's the gimmick. 259 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:32.960 And he loves gimmicks. 260 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:37.320 If you love the Margaritaville, you love Rainforest Cafe, Bubble, you. 261 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:41.120 Enjoy going to Margaritaville, Oh yeah, absolutely. Next time you're in. 262 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:45.440 New York, let's go the rooftop in Midtown. 263 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:47.120 You come to our Margaritaville. 264 00:11:51.639 --> 00:11:55.039 We found the glue between all four of us trip. 265 00:11:55.080 --> 00:11:55.600 Absolutely. 266 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:57.159 When I went to the Mall of America with Dan, 267 00:11:57.240 --> 00:11:59.360 there was like this courtyard where it was like it 268 00:11:59.399 --> 00:12:01.679 was like a Mexican could stand off with the Margheritaville, 269 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:04.519 the Rape Forest Cafe in the Bubble Cups strip, just 270 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:06.840 like all staring at each other, and I was like, 271 00:12:06.879 --> 00:12:09.120 this is the most beautiful thing I've ever did. 272 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:11.480 You stand equidistant between all three? Did you do that? 273 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:13.720 It's like a four corners thing with the stands. Yeah, 274 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:16.879 one hand in every restaurant. Yeah, the four corners. 275 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:17.279 That's fun. 276 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:22.559 To give me a blindfold. It's spinned me around. 277 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:24.960 Absolutely love that. Let's do that. 278 00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:27.679 Let's go spin Mike Manati in America. 279 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:31.080 I remember during COVID or not, like after COVID things 280 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:34.480 had started opening up again. I was trying to go 281 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:36.919 to the Olive Garden in Midtown just because it wouldn't 282 00:12:36.919 --> 00:12:39.799 be flooded with tourists and it would actually be still 283 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:40.480 be Olive Garden. 284 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:42.639 That was the one where I dared you to go 285 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:44.759 by yourself and demand they sang happy Birthday to you. 286 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:48.240 Right, Yeah, yeah, I did not do that. I could 287 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:49.440 do that, mate. 288 00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:51.519 Maybe last time I was at Olive Gardens because my 289 00:12:51.679 --> 00:12:55.399 nephew made us go because it was it's mentioned in 290 00:12:55.559 --> 00:12:58.039 one of the Sonic movies, so he was like, he's 291 00:12:58.080 --> 00:12:59.159 really it doesn't he. 292 00:12:59.159 --> 00:13:01.279 Get apasta path like in the second song of the 293 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:02.480 Sonic Movie or something like that. 294 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:04.720 Yeah, that's how he was, like really exciting. 295 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:07.679 It's incredible that that air movie advertising worked on a 296 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:08.720 child man. 297 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:10.559 He was so happy to be there. 298 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:13.600 Grub was it You posted a thing today of the 299 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.159 funk Co Fusion game with like a KFC mini game. 300 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:18.240 Yep, not a mini game. 301 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:21.799 It's like the KFC things are like all like a 302 00:13:21.840 --> 00:13:24.200 bucket of chicken is littered all over the game and 303 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:25.840 you gotta shoot it like so many. 304 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:27.000 Tongue lock stuff or something. 305 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:30.200 I want to be cynical, but I loved Yo Noyd 306 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:32.720 for the NYT listening. 307 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:35.480 My my post was my eyes dilating because I'm like, 308 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:38.000 I gotta play this now, like I. 309 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:40.720 Hate Funko, Like I think that shit's really stupid, and 310 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:42.320 we're going to play play the game. But if they're 311 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:47.200 going all the way like branding nutso like beyond crazy Taxi, 312 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:48.720 We've got a KFC in a pizza. 313 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:52.000 Hut, I would like to play. We're gonna play it. 314 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:54.159 Although the other part of that story is it hard 315 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:56.559 locked twenty one times on them, so they couldn't even 316 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:56.960 review it. 317 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:59.600 They try to review it. Yeah, so sounds like a 318 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:00.840 good time. Well, it's weird. 319 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:02.919 It looks like it runs so well in all the trailer, 320 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:08.360 I feel like we're going happening on giant bomb dot 321 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:09.279 com or we're gonna do it. 322 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:10.679 Yeah, okay, I'll do that with you. 323 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:12.720 It was I got. The only thing I remember that 324 00:14:12.759 --> 00:14:15.360 game is in the direct uh being like Funko was 325 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:17.240 fusion popped up Mike's talking. I made a joke like 326 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:19.080 shut out, shut the fuck up, we're gonna respect this, 327 00:14:19.399 --> 00:14:21.320 and immediately it started playing and I couldn't. I'm like, 328 00:14:21.360 --> 00:14:23.679 this looks like shit, and it's like it was just 329 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:25.600 unbelievable unmitigated ship. 330 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:28.519 Do any of you own any Funko pops? 331 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:31.200 I used to have a few. I think back when 332 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:33.120 the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie came out. I 333 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:35.200 got like all the Guardians of the Galaxy and I 334 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:39.200 was like, this is neat, that's fun A slightly hot take. Look, 335 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:41.440 I don't love Funko pops. I care then bought one 336 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:44.559 and maybe a decade they don't upset me like they seem. 337 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:48.000 I mean the thing I kind of I'll I don't know. 338 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:50.480 Sometimes you'll see like an image of somebody screaming on 339 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:52.720 the internet about something and there's like a literal wall, 340 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:56.200 like a wall of their home made of funko pops 341 00:14:56.200 --> 00:14:58.080 behind them, and it's like, all right, that's kind. 342 00:14:58.000 --> 00:14:59.919 Of like they're definitely tacky, and I know how, I 343 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:02.799 get how that happened, and like, yeah, that tackiness transfers 344 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:04.480 to people own a lot of them. 345 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:08.759 Sure, So here's here's one time they actually have really 346 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:12.879 annoyed me. I've usually been indifferent to them. There is 347 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:16.480 a wine bar like across the street from me, let's 348 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:18.639 say two blocks up, and like our five listeners in Hoboken, 349 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:21.720 we'll probably know where I'm talking about. Really nice Italian bar, 350 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:25.000 great food. They have like twelve different kinds of briscatta. 351 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:27.320 It's like they're going for the like very much going 352 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:28.320 for the nice Italian. 353 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:30.000 I have no idea where this story is going, but 354 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:31.840 I'm very. 355 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:34.120 Shy in the bar, Like half of behind the bar, 356 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:37.399 next to like some really expensive Barolos and Brunello's are 357 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:39.720 like one hundred funko pops on the. 358 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:42.159 Show like of like Tony Soprano and Muslin. 359 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:45.679 There's no there's no theme to any of them. 360 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:49.759 It's there's Deadpool, there's Sonic, there's I don't know whose 361 00:15:49.879 --> 00:15:51.759 idea it was, but it aggravated. 362 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:54.039 It's the owner's son who we can't say no to. 363 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:58.000 Clearly, how many fun pops are there of people or 364 00:15:58.039 --> 00:15:59.519 characters that have now been canceled? 365 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:08.720 Your master list is probably dot Com, the Bill Cosby one. 366 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:12.120 She protects that with all her might. 367 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:14.919 Who's the old guy that died recently, that did a 368 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:16.360 bunch of war stuff like crimes? 369 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:18.480 Oh God, damn it. 370 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:25.720 Hen was he ever cancelor was it just always acknowledging 371 00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:26.080 that you. 372 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:29.720 Were fond of him. It's weird that there's a pop 373 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:32.039 of him either way, there really. 374 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:35.720 Is, I don't I think. 375 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:39.159 I think one guy g That's the only reason I 376 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:39.519 know him. 377 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:44.200 So Mike and I both into Margaritaville, were also both 378 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:45.399 super gullible. 379 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:49.960 Insanely gullible. All right, I'm looking at the whole. 380 00:16:50.039 --> 00:16:53.360 Okay, so no fictional characters obviously, Disney, Marvel, dc U, 381 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:59.320 this doesn't matter, TV series line, burned Spring, Okay. Is 382 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:02.480 there a Roseanne Funko pop? Oh, there can't be. She's 383 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:06.519 been Uh, she's been for a while. She came back 384 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:11.160 ship that show she was on the Connors enough for 385 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:14.799 Funko Pop. I mean no, there's no Roseanne. 386 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:15.839 Damn. 387 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:18.039 I thought I thought that was I thought that was 388 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:21.039 our best bet. Star Wars, Star Trek, Game of Thrones, 389 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:27.480 a lot of video game stuff, No doctor disrespect, no, 390 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:30.880 none of that. I just got to w W. 391 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:33.400 That'll do it. 392 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:37.359 Hang on hul Cogan, which you know, shockingly not as 393 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:39.599 canceled as he should be, should be more. 394 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:40.960 Canceled at any given time. 395 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:46.279 Yeah, you know, out of all of these wrestlers, Hogan's 396 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:49.960 the closest. And he's got one Okay, so Hogan is 397 00:17:50.119 --> 00:17:52.559 the most He's the closest to being canceled I've seen 398 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:52.960 so far. 399 00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:59.359 There is no Bill Cosby Funko, so no events. 400 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:01.319 I'm looking at Vince. I'm looking at Vince. I found 401 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:06.799 one eBay for twenty bucks. Mister McMahon, is that a 402 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:09.640 custom job? It doesn't look like it even has the 403 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:12.680 number number fifty three, So that's the important. 404 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:16.240 Admiring from jingle all the way holding a mail bomb. 405 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:18.400 Then you guys just link to eBay. But I think, 406 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:21.200 I yeah, I think this is a legitimate mister McMahon. 407 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:24.759 That's definitely a cancel Funk Pop Wow, Okay, that was 408 00:18:24.759 --> 00:18:27.480 not listed on this website of my On here. 409 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:32.160 Where I see it, you can also get a mister 410 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:34.160 America Dan was all. 411 00:18:34.039 --> 00:18:36.160 Coke was also whole coked. Well there's the way to 412 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:36.720 prove that, brother. 413 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:40.599 So yeah, I guess Vince. 414 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:44.240 There was on my desk at game Spot for a 415 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:47.720 bit when I inherited the desk from I think it 416 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:49.240 was Mary, but I don't think it was her funko 417 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:53.519 pop either, because it was a Lara Croft funko pop. 418 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:56.160 My mom once she knows I like a big Trouble 419 00:18:56.160 --> 00:18:58.160 Little China, and she she likes the movie lot too, 420 00:18:58.240 --> 00:19:00.279 And you know, obviously she doesn't know like nerd culture 421 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:01.640 or anything like that, so she would have no where. 422 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:03.799 She just saw like, oh, this Jack Burton thing at 423 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:05.200 a store or whatever and send it to me in 424 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:07.680 San Francisco and I lived there and we're like party, like, 425 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:08.400 oh thanks Mom. 426 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:08.640 Party. 427 00:19:08.680 --> 00:19:09.759 It was like, I don't want to put a funk 428 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:11.400 o pop on my desk, So it's like I just 429 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:13.319 kind of kept it out of sight for a little. 430 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:15.759 Bit, but just bust it out when she visits. Yeah, yeah, Hey, I. 431 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:21.079 Have a couple of friends his grandma for a wedding 432 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:24.480 gift sent them this like huge ass painting that they hate, 433 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:27.680 and they actually put it up, like planning on putting 434 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:28.920 it up in the hallway when she visits. 435 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:33.079 They keep it in a classic sitcom move sitcom stuff 436 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:33.400 right there. 437 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:33.839 I like that. 438 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:36.359 I mean, we still have your face already on our 439 00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:37.799 ceiling in Bannk's office. 440 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:41.319 It's still it's still there, yes, awesome. 441 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:43.319 Yeah, and then but the top bunk's not there anymore, 442 00:19:43.400 --> 00:19:44.799 so it's like way more visible now. 443 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:47.519 So so I'm lording over the person sleeping even more. 444 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:50.720 Oh yeah, absolutely, from on high et me in November. 445 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:52.279 Oh yeah, yeah, I. 446 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:54.000 Don't remember where that photo was from. Was that when 447 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:55.640 I looked like I peed my pants a Game Informer? 448 00:19:56.279 --> 00:19:57.599 No? I use that one a lot. 449 00:19:57.960 --> 00:19:59.880 This one was you just made a stupid face while 450 00:19:59.880 --> 00:20:05.079 we were having fuh in Danbury, Connecticut. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, 451 00:20:05.160 --> 00:20:07.119 before I locked you in my basement when we streamed 452 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:09.880 it hard. Can I ask you a question? Yeah, did 453 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:14.599 did you watch it? Enjoy home Star Runner dot com? 454 00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:17.759 Yes, I've never missed a strong bed email. I was 455 00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:20.680 in the come on Forhoga gods always in my head. 456 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:22.200 It came up with me Jeff. 457 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:25.039 Jeff was like, like, I don't know him. Death was 458 00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:27.720 not into I'm a wary exist. I just never watched it. 459 00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:29.920 But Mike was like, it was huge in my high school. 460 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:32.720 No one in my high school ever mentioned it once. Ever, 461 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:36.720 it was huge in my dorm, like people love that. Yeah, 462 00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:37.119 I came out. 463 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:39.359 It was like a cultural keystone. 464 00:20:39.680 --> 00:20:41.440 I graduated in two thousand and one, so I do 465 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:42.720 think it might have been a bit early. 466 00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:46.279 I was two, okay, then you said in the doors. 467 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:50.720 Opposed three it was big, bigger scumbags who barely used 468 00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:52.480 the Internet from like two thousand and two to like 469 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:54.240 two thousand and six, So yeah, I think that might 470 00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:54.599 have helped that. 471 00:20:54.839 --> 00:20:58.039 It was one of my after like Harry Potter dot com. 472 00:20:58.119 --> 00:20:59.880 I think Homestar Runner was one of my first like 473 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:02.319 go to websites. I was in middle school. 474 00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:05.079 Were you into those Potter puppet pals too? Oh yeah? 475 00:21:05.359 --> 00:21:09.799 Oh yeah? That is that the one like snape snap. 476 00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:13.559 I think that video at one point was the most 477 00:21:13.599 --> 00:21:17.240 watched YouTube video ever. You're close to it, uh once 478 00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:19.359 the pot time you ever watch those tiktoks where it's 479 00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:21.640 like a chart that like the tracks the popularity, so 480 00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:26.880 can watch talks you you're talking about it. I would 481 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:28.279 like to see that that. You're right, that's probably is 482 00:21:28.359 --> 00:21:29.160 up there for a while. 483 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:31.279 What were the like Touchstone? 484 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:32.400 What was it? 485 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:37.079 Would like be the single Touchstone comedy movie for your 486 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:38.319 high school years? 487 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:39.920 Uh, Lebowski? 488 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:42.240 Well, no, you know what, Well Junior High it would 489 00:21:42.279 --> 00:21:45.240 be Austin Powers Junior High, Austin Powers High. 490 00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:47.359 School, Powers ace Ventura. 491 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:54.799 Earlier early that Austin Powers. Probably I would be Anchorman, 492 00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:58.119 I think maybe. Also, uh, what's the one with Will 493 00:21:58.160 --> 00:21:59.519 Farrow and I Love You? 494 00:21:59.559 --> 00:22:03.920 Hear my? I blew old Old School popped off My. 495 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:07.480 Sophomore year was super bad, like sweat swept the school. 496 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:10.920 It's actually like right there. Half Bake probably would have 497 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:12.359 been us right when I was graduating. 498 00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:15.039 I liked that Baked. Yeah. Yeah, it's a great comedy, 499 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:16.519 especially when you're a teenager or whatever. 500 00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:19.359 You as much as I even especially when these movies 501 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:22.279 came out, as much as I was a drunken, you know, 502 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:26.039 dumb ass. I never found Old School or The Hangover 503 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:27.599 to be particularly funny. 504 00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:30.640 It'll just like Old School more than Hangover. But I 505 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:31.440 didn't love either. 506 00:22:31.519 --> 00:22:33.680 You know, I'm the opposite, but I like I like 507 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:35.640 movies set in Vegas just because it kind of feels 508 00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:36.400 like I'm on vacation. 509 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:38.400 I just like the part like, oh hey, now they're 510 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:39.680 in the Caesars Palace. 511 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:42.079 And that is That is why I like Ocean's eleven 512 00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:42.480 a lot. 513 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:46.279 Yeah, absolutely, yes, Vegas Vacation Crew here I love. 514 00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:51.039 Yeah, changing five hundred every time it goes into the 515 00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:53.680 like the casino where they played war and like I 516 00:22:53.720 --> 00:22:55.720 guess the number and stuff like that plays on my 517 00:22:55.720 --> 00:22:56.319 head in a loop. 518 00:22:56.519 --> 00:22:59.559 Oh yeah, it's incredible. Still have never done Vegas. 519 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.559 You've never been to Vegas? That shocks me. I would 520 00:23:03.559 --> 00:23:05.319 feel isn't like is Dice there? 521 00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:10.519 Sometimes this is in Lake Como, Italy this year. 522 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:12.559 Oh that's until you're going. 523 00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:15.279 No, I'm not. I wish I was. I couldn't. 524 00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:18.599 I couldn't get a maggot to expense two of us going. 525 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:20.839 What would be the dream city for all of us? 526 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:23.839 For like, okay, E threes move or Summer Games Fest 527 00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:26.599 is moving out of l A. And from now on 528 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:28.920 for one week every summer, you're you in the entire 529 00:23:28.920 --> 00:23:29.960 games industry goes to. 530 00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:42.079 Oh my god, yeah, you're right, it's in New Orleans. 531 00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:45.039 Probably for me, I don't know that I would. 532 00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:48.240 And I love so many people I've worked with, and 533 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:50.839 E three and Summer Games West have There's been great memories. 534 00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:52.440 I don't know that I want to be anywhere with 535 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:56.519 like that many with I like that many people there 536 00:23:56.519 --> 00:23:58.000 for a convention. I feel like it's going to make 537 00:23:58.000 --> 00:24:01.039 any place like like La for Summer Game Fest. I'm 538 00:24:01.039 --> 00:24:04.480 always like keyed up and anxious about it. 539 00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:09.480 Yeah, but would rather be anywhere than La kind of 540 00:24:09.519 --> 00:24:10.359 near skid Row. 541 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:15.119 Yeah, No, I guess I enjoy like games Calm dream 542 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:15.839 city for that. 543 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:16.519 Yeah, I don't know. 544 00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:19.440 I think it would be it wouldn't be like Paris 545 00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:21.880 or I think Chicago would be good. 546 00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:25.160 I'm just about to say maybe chicag I like Chicago centralized. 547 00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:27.960 I'd be with that said say Chicago. 548 00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:32.960 Yeaheah, yeah, yeah, I listened to you. I Chicago. 549 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:34.440 I just feel like I would enjoy. 550 00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:37.039 It's such a It's an awesome city. Actually, it's what 551 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:38.920 we were like when we were considered moving. It was 552 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:41.039 like a Chicago probably too expensive, so we're think of 553 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:43.400 Minneapolis or Cleveland, and we ended up going to Cleveland 554 00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:45.880 because it was the most affordable. But then right after 555 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:48.400 that we took a family vacation to Chicago, and I 556 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:51.480 really fell in love that because it's it is a 557 00:24:51.519 --> 00:24:55.200 big city, but it's still very Midwest. But it has everything. 558 00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:58.519 It has all the cultures. Every ten feet there's another 559 00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:02.400 awesome restaurant. There's so much stadium, there's medieval times. Yeah, 560 00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:03.640 it's fun stuff. 561 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:03.880 Yeah. 562 00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:08.640 On the west what's that called West Point here or whatever. 563 00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:16.519 The y Yeah, awesome, amazing. I love going to see 564 00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:18.359 just a real city in a lot of ways. 565 00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:22.000 I think my wife's convinced once I see it, I'll 566 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:24.119 never want to leave. She thinks that it will resonate 567 00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:27.920 with me, and I think like two siblings. A few 568 00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:30.279 uncles have told me it, and they meant this in 569 00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:33.880 the like in the highest form of a compliment, that 570 00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:36.440 it's like the most American city they've been to, Like 571 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:39.920 it feels like it can be salt of the earth. 572 00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:42.240 It feels like a lot of their favorite restaurants and 573 00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:45.519 bars are like divy but like a lot of character. 574 00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:47.160 It's got. 575 00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:49.079 It's got like it is very American, and then it's 576 00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:52.119 also extremely multicultural, and it's awesome at both. 577 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:53.000 It's really cool. 578 00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:55.599 A lot of Irish people that I know. 579 00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:59.519 I was impressed by Mahrdy and Mary and some friends 580 00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:02.119 in Pland recently, and I had never been there before, 581 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:05.400 and like we weren't like downtown or anything like that. 582 00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:07.079 We were just kind of like hanging out and like 583 00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:08.480 I don't know if you call it a suburban area, 584 00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:11.079 but lots of like no that tyburns and breakfast places 585 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:11.799 and it's great. 586 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:15.160 That was like that was Portland but yeah, correct, not downtown, 587 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:16.279 but it was still the city. 588 00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:20.480 But yeah, Portland's awesome. We we were only there for 589 00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:21.279 a few hours. 590 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:24.440 Before we went farther up into the Columbia gorge but 591 00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:29.279 extremely nice like natural environments right outside the city. I 592 00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:30.799 mean a lot of cities have that, but this kind 593 00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:34.240 of it like dissolves into it as opposed to like 594 00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:38.720 city and then outskirts gorgeous like gardens and all the houses. 595 00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:44.359 It's the Rose City after all. Yeah, it's awesome there, Yeah, beautiful. 596 00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:47.079 Definitely want to check it out sometime. I like Seattle 597 00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:49.759 a lot, which is another Northwestern city. I assume it's 598 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:56.160 them alert it's bigger, and it's Seattle is more. Seattle 599 00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:02.160 is definitely more like tail bars, like artisanal coffee shops. 600 00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:05.240 It's like the most college in the right. 601 00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:09.119 Yeah, and Portland definitely feels more I and people from 602 00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:12.000 Portland can well correct me if this is way off, 603 00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:14.119 but it If this means anything to you, guys, it 604 00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:16.920 feels like a big astoria at Queen's. 605 00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:21.440 College town post college, like if the vibe of your 606 00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:25.359 like college like hippie college town continued into adulthood. 607 00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:29.599 Basically killer pace than Seattle. In my exterest, do you 608 00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:33.319 have hippie college towns like? Yeah? Ye. 609 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:36.599 Hell Yellow Springs, Ohio, where Dave Chappelle lives, is a 610 00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:40.319 famous like hippie college town that people around here hang 611 00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:42.519 out too, And I bet Portland's very similar to that, 612 00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:44.640 and anyone from Ohio, most people from Ohio will know 613 00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:45.359 what I'm talking about. 614 00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:51.279 One really quick, cool fun fact about Portland. Uh, back 615 00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:53.200 in the day when it was still stumptown, it started 616 00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:54.079 as a logging town. 617 00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:56.759 Two people who had like the rights to the plot. 618 00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:59.839 One was from Portland, Maine, one was from Boston, Massachusetts, 619 00:27:59.880 --> 00:28:02.319 and they were trying they're arguing about what they wanted 620 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:04.640 to call it when it was being incorporated, and both 621 00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:06.599 of them wanted to name it after their home hometown, 622 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:09.640 so they decided on Portland after flipping a coin. 623 00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:14.240 Oh wow, yea Springfield and Shelby. 624 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:18.680 That's interesting because it's it's a boring name, right, It's 625 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:20.240 just like, well, what are we got in this land? 626 00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:24.400 Ports? All right? There you go, and it's it's not 627 00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:26.000 even on the ocean. 628 00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:28.559 It's a river port, Right's they at their a land 629 00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:31.119 that had ports. It doesn't even make sense here anymore. 630 00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:32.519 You guys. Ever see you a basketball? 631 00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:33.160 Yeah? 632 00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:33.440 Sure. 633 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:34.680 And one of the best bits in that is when 634 00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:36.279 they talk about all the teams moved around where like 635 00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:38.160 La moved to Lakers where there are no lakes, and 636 00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:40.279 the jazz moved to Utah where they don't allow music. 637 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:47.359 Yeah that's but yeah, New Orleans also be great. I 638 00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:49.559 still have not been to New Orleans either. 639 00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:51.880 Oh I'd love to go to New Orleans. All I've 640 00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:54.279 been there like five or six times. Now you say this, 641 00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:55.960 I've never been to New Orleans. Why do you like 642 00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:00.079 it so much? I'm not Gauley, but I'm curious. Okay, Like, 643 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:02.000 you know, people like to go to like Vegas and 644 00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:04.160 it's just like, okay, it's you know, party, you know, 645 00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:05.880 it's just like kind of you know, glitz and glamour. 646 00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:08.599 And drinking and everything casinos and all that, like New Orleans. 647 00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:11.200 Like I've never understood why somebody would prefer going to 648 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:13.279 like a Vegas over in New Orleans if you just 649 00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:15.160 want to have like a fun, drinky time with friends, 650 00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:17.359 you know, because like New Orleans has you know, Bourbon 651 00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:20.440 Street and Frenchman Street and all these incredible places to 652 00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:22.799 drink with like history and like this is this is 653 00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.240 a Lafite's blacksmith shop. It's the oldest running bar in 654 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:29.559 the country. And pirate literal shoot. Pirates used to fucking 655 00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:32.480 drink there and it's still lit by candlelight and it's 656 00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:35.359 it's just fucking awesome, this old stone ass building. That's 657 00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:37.559 it's one of my favorite places on Bourbon Street, and 658 00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:39.839 it's just such a great place to walk around and drink. 659 00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:41.720 There's this live music everywhere. So I'm not even a 660 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:44.599 big live music guy, but when you're just walking down 661 00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:46.759 a street and everyone's having a good time and you 662 00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:48.960 just hear just like jazz coming out of different you know, 663 00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:52.680 windows and stuff like that, it's such a fun, like 664 00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:55.440 kind of partyish atmosphere, which you could do the Bourbon 665 00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:56.920 Street thing. I think if you go, you should do 666 00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:58.599 one night on Bourbon Street and just see that as 667 00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:01.160 like the tourist crazy, like everyone's there and way too 668 00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:03.160 drunk and things like that. But then when you go 669 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:05.200 off the beaten path and there's so many fun little things, 670 00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:07.559 like Frenchman Street is like Bourbon Street for locals, they 671 00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:09.839 say where it's like much more low key, but a 672 00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:11.480 ton of cool little places they eat and drink and 673 00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.319 live music. There's just got like real like culture and 674 00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:17.240 the food is fucking incredible there, and everyone just seems 675 00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:19.799 kind of have like just real people or it's like, I 676 00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:22.319 don't know, Vegas has a certain like slime over it, 677 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:23.720 you know, it's just a little. 678 00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:26.759 It's the way. Yeah, it's just like I don't know. 679 00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:28.640 You you go to New Orleans and it's just like, 680 00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:30.480 I mean, this is just a lot of real people 681 00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:32.359 that are celebrating this cool city that's got a lot 682 00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:34.720 of history and doesn't feel like any other city in 683 00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:35.240 the country. 684 00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:37.839 So it does sound like similar to Nashville, but Nashville 685 00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:39.599 would be obviously more country music than jazz, and I 686 00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:40.599 think I would prefer the jazz. 687 00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:43.680 Yes, Yeah, I went to Nashville for the first time 688 00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:45.400 last year, and I enjoyed it. 689 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:45.720 We did. 690 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:47.640 We did the one day on Broadway with like all 691 00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:51.079 the big garage door country bars, but then we found 692 00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:53.400 a few like hole in the wall cocktail spots that 693 00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:54.039 were great. 694 00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:56.880 Did you code switch? Did you put on cowboy boots 695 00:30:56.920 --> 00:30:58.160 and a cowboy hat? 696 00:30:58.359 --> 00:30:58.599 No? 697 00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:01.960 Unfortunately I was dressed for a wedding most of the time, okay, 698 00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:03.839 at which there were no cowboy boots. 699 00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:05.160 Sure. I was one of the. 700 00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.319 Most opulent weddings I've ever been to. They rented out 701 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:09.039 like the entire Nashville Symphony Hall. 702 00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:11.200 Who that's crazy? 703 00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:13.200 Yeah, it was. It was nuts. 704 00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:16.039 And then of course, like two hours later I was 705 00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:17.720 just destroying a fried chicken sandwich. 706 00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:21.160 Yeah. Good food there, Yeah, both poles. Yeah. 707 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:23.880 Ever a place to to spend like three or four 708 00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:27.440 days or more, go to New Orleans. It's And did 709 00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:30.240 you ever watch Wild on e Yes? 710 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.240 Okay, look, look we talked about two thousand and two, 711 00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:35.680 two thousand and three. Brooke Burke was a thing, and 712 00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.119 many people, most people, most people didn't watch it. But 713 00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:44.240 I think it was like you would see you you 714 00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:46.640 would see the commercials for what was the ones where 715 00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:47.839 the girls would take their shirts off? 716 00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:50.559 That was girls Gone wild Girl's Gone Wild, and. 717 00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:51.960 It's like, Wow, I'm not gonna be able to get 718 00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:52.640 them a. 719 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:57.480 Teenager classy girls, like basically documentary. It's a documentary about 720 00:31:57.480 --> 00:31:59.759 where people happened to be drinking by an ocean and 721 00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:01.960 they would do like every other. 722 00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:04.000 Episode would be in New Orleans, and I'm. 723 00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:06.720 Like, it looked like a lot of things ONNAK, but 724 00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:10.599 hosted by someone who's the opposite of David tel exactly. 725 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:13.799 Yes, a carpork, which doesn't make any sense. 726 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:16.200 Yeah, it's funny. 727 00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:18.519 I'll see like brook Brooks and those like sketchers slip 728 00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:20.039 on ads now and every time I see it, I'm 729 00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:22.759 just like. She was on Every Dude's Wall in two 730 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:24.319 thousand and two and used. 731 00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:26.319 A voice of me for Speed Underground Too. 732 00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:28.960 She won a Spike Video Game Award for her performance 733 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:31.359 in The Sounds That Era. 734 00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:32.079 Yep, Yep. 735 00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:37.279 The Steven Soderbergh's wife actually was one of the hosts 736 00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:39.400 of that eventually. I can't remember her name, but she 737 00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:42.160 wrote like secretly wrote Logan Lucky, which is one of 738 00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:42.839 my favorite movies. 739 00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:45.880 Oh that's the Daniel Craig right, Yes, that movie rules. 740 00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:47.480 She secretly wrote it. 741 00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:50.039 Yes, like she she did it under a pen name, 742 00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:52.599 and I think it's like Rebecca Blund or something, but 743 00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:54.319 that's not her her real name. But she's married to 744 00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:57.200 Steven Soderberg and although everyone's like no, she totally helped 745 00:32:57.279 --> 00:32:58.079 him write this movie. 746 00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:00.559 So yeah, pretty interesting. 747 00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:04.519 Every time I hear Steven Soderbergh, I weirdly get him 748 00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:07.279 mixed up with Paul W. S Anderson because both of 749 00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:09.839 them have names that I confuse with a better director. 750 00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:13.480 Well they're wait, no, who's the better director? 751 00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:15.839 Wait, Paul W. S Is the Mortal Combat and Event 752 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:17.720 Horizon him with Paul. 753 00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:20.680 Thomas Anderson, who's a better director, And with Spielberg. 754 00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:23.119 I like both of them for different reasons. Yeah, they're 755 00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:28.000 very different. Soberg is kind of amazing better, better movie. 756 00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:32.680 I mean, no, okay, so what else did he do? 757 00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:34.119 He did that unsane movie, that. 758 00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:37.920 Ocean. You're trying to argue. 759 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:39.519 That Soderberg is better than Spielberg and you can't even 760 00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:41.400 remember more than Ocean's eleven and. 761 00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:44.440 I have a terrible memory. 762 00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:49.440 All the Oceans. Aaron Brockovich, He's done Magic Mike, out 763 00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.119 of Sight, with the Jennifer Lopez and George Cloone. 764 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.480 You definitely watched the catage in ten times during the pandemic, 765 00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:54.960 just like. 766 00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:58.880 Me a way of processing. 767 00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:02.559 Yeah, yeah, cagin is that is there a monkey in contagion? 768 00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:06.559 You're thinking an outbreak school. 769 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:10.639 It's fantastic. Yeah, we did Pleasantville. I've seen pleasant Ville. 770 00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:15.199 I say Pleasantville. Okay, there we go. That's the movies, Okay. 771 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:19.360 Steve Schielburg's obviously, like like all times, it's not fair 772 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:20.039 to compare anybody. 773 00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:23.320 It's it's a little unfair. Yeah. Director. 774 00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:25.920 Last night, Bonk and I watched True Lies and neither 775 00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:27.639 of us remembered anything about it. We were like kids 776 00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:30.320 when we last saw it, and goddamn of James Cameron. 777 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:32.599 Like we looked at James Cameron's IMDb afterwards. 778 00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:34.119 I think he's just the best at making movies. 779 00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:37.760 He only makes the biggest movies ever, Like his fucking 780 00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:41.000 whole track record since like the Abyss in eighty seven 781 00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:44.280 or whatever. It's like, oh, okay, it's or Terminators before that, Terminator, 782 00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:47.639 Terminator to the Abyss, the Avatars, whatever you think from Titan. 783 00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:51.079 Aliens, Aliens, I should say something Aliens. 784 00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:51.599 Yeah, he was. 785 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:54.199 He would be like an assistant director and he would 786 00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:56.320 do things on sets where it was like, Okay, we 787 00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:59.159 have to make this blob of flesh look like it's moving. 788 00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:02.480 I'm gonna go get some wire and rip it apart, 789 00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:05.159 plug it into the wall, and electrocute it. Will film 790 00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:07.320 that and everyone's like, what the fuck is this guy doing? 791 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:09.280 Like no one understood it, and they saw it. It was 792 00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:11.719 an incredible shot, and it's like he's just that guy 793 00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:13.960 where he can think up anything. He did like all 794 00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:16.039 of the concept art for a lot of his early movies. 795 00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:18.840 Like he's just the most talented person. And then he 796 00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:21.679 makes popcorn flicks, which I just couldn't respect more. 797 00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:23.000 Well, that's the thing is, Like I remember I was 798 00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:25.079 looking up True Lives production and it was the first 799 00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:27.320 movie to go over one hundred million dollars on budget, 800 00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.079 and it wound up making like over four hundred million. 801 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:31.840 And I remember as a kid, I was debscribing to 802 00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:34.119 Entertainment Weekly and reading about budgets and box office and 803 00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:37.119 everything about Titanic was it's wildly over budget. 804 00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:39.320 It's a they were stunting on that, and they're like 805 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:41.119 dunking on it constantly. This is going to be a 806 00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:43.199 Travis It's gonna be the real life Titanic. This is 807 00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.480 gonna be the movie version of the actual titan You 808 00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:47.039 go to him every time they did with Avatar and 809 00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:50.000 Avatar two, and they always make the most. 810 00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:51.920 And no cultural significance. No one's gonna see the sequel. 811 00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.679 Yeah, the sequel with but I think titic was the 812 00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:56.519 one the worst, Like everyone thought it was gonna be 813 00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:58.159 the worst, and then it was the number one movie ever. 814 00:35:58.239 --> 00:35:59.719 And it's just like I think from that point, I 815 00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:01.480 was like, take as long as you need, take as 816 00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:03.679 much money as you need. It's gonna be fine. And 817 00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:05.679 then they but they still doubted him for Avatar and 818 00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:06.719 Avatar too. It's incredible. 819 00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:09.159 You can't anymore, right, Yeah, the guy build well, the 820 00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:12.760 guy builds his own submarines that can go explore the Titanic. Now, 821 00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:14.559 I think he's just got one of those like genius 822 00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:17.079 engineer minds and like to make it. 823 00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:18.400 I think like he comes. 824 00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:20.719 Up obviously I don't know the guy, but he comes 825 00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.519 up and like he has to make a huge movie. 826 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:24.239 He's like, Okay, this is no different than making this 827 00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:25.880 very complex submarine. It's a problem to solve. 828 00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:26.280 And he's good. 829 00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:28.800 He's really good at characterization at the same time because 830 00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:31.000 he like worked blue cowar jobs growing up and things 831 00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:32.599 like that. He was a truck driver when he saw 832 00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:34.880 Star Wars and he's like, I gotta quit and go 833 00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:36.320 make movies or I'm gonna die. 834 00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:37.320 Like that's how he felt. 835 00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:39.320 I'm like, Okay, this is just my guy making the 836 00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:40.239 kinds of movies I like. 837 00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:42.000 Well, and when he was with Catherine Bigelow, he was 838 00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:45.199 like executive producer and writing like point Break and Strange 839 00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:47.800 Days and Catherine Biglow's awesome shit she was making over there, 840 00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:49.440 like god damn, like. 841 00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:50.800 Toast time, he seems Strange Days. 842 00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:53.639 Because it was not anywhere years ago, you couldn't stream 843 00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:55.079 it for a while, did you like buy the Blu 844 00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:55.599 ray or something. 845 00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:57.000 I think it was streaming when we watched it like 846 00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:58.320 a year ago, and it was years ago. 847 00:36:58.360 --> 00:36:59.639 I was looking for it and I couldn't find it. 848 00:36:59.639 --> 00:36:59.840 It was. 849 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:01.880 It was very good. I had not heard much about it. 850 00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:03.880 And I remember it was around the time Phantom Liberty 851 00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:05.760 was coming out, the cyberpunk thing, because like the brain 852 00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:09.360 dance stuff in cyberpunk is so just what Strange Days is. Yeah, 853 00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:10.719 you know, has a lot of that stuff in it. 854 00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:12.360 So we watched it around that point and we were 855 00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:14.679 both like, holy shit, she's awesome. 856 00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:18.760 Wait a minute, holy shit, I did not know that 857 00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:20.960 she did. K nineteen The Widow Maker. 858 00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:24.559 Yeah, and zero thirty one of the better submarine movies. 859 00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:27.719 Yeap, wait is that it's Oh man, is that the 860 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:31.519 one with the nuclear core? What are you thinking of thee? 861 00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:34.320 No nuclear core in the summary is a nuclear subon? 862 00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:36.800 I never saw that one that I think, Well, K 863 00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.400 nineteen probably wouldn't because that sounds like a Russian one 864 00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:42.639 and I don't know if they'd ever had a nuclear submarine. 865 00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:44.719 Reactor cool and pipe burst control rods. Yeah, maybe this 866 00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:47.119 movie fucked with me. 867 00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:51.159 Harrison Ford one, Yes, Yeah, was a very good one. 868 00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:52.039 Yeah. 869 00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:55.519 The reactor core like is like melting down and they 870 00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:58.440 have to go in in like pairs with protection. 871 00:37:58.519 --> 00:37:59.320 That's really nice, right. 872 00:37:59.760 --> 00:37:59.960 Yeah. 873 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:04.719 The end, they're all just like dying of the worst 874 00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:07.360 poisoning you can get in the in like the barracks. 875 00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:09.000 And then at the like I forget how many people 876 00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:10.639 were in the crew, and you know there's three people 877 00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:12.840 alive at the end that go to the ground the cemetery. 878 00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:13.719 That movie messed with me. 879 00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:15.840 I saw that way too young, But I was gonna 880 00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:18.360 say it's funny that Catherine Bigelow has done stuff like 881 00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:22.000 Point Break, but then she kind of took up the 882 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:26.760 mantle as the chronicler of Bush's war, like yeah, that's yeah, 883 00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:30.800 or I don't know if Bush. 884 00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:33.440 Yeah, yeah, she's made some awesome movies. 885 00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:36.119 We mentioned submarine movies and that set me off. Do 886 00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:37.920 you guys have favorite submarine movies? 887 00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:44.280 I don't think oct Periscope? Down is Periscope? Yeah, okay, 888 00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:48.000 that's my favorite one. Actually, that's it's also great. Uh. 889 00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:51.239 The thing about submarines, especially in nuclear submarines, is they 890 00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:55.280 could stay down for at this point years. 891 00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:56.239 Except for they need food. 892 00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:58.679 That is the only thing that causes them have to 893 00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:00.679 come back to the surface. Now they screw the oxygen. 894 00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:03.960 The nuclear reactor can last for years. Everything else is 895 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.639 taken care of, so they could stay down to hydroponics 896 00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:08.280 farm or something on the submarine. 897 00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:11.199 Now like popcorn, because that's tiny, and then it gets bigger. 898 00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:14.000 They probably are coming up with a lot of solutions, 899 00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:15.760 but amount of calories. 900 00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:19.599 I'm call up the Secretary of State. 901 00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:24.760 I got therecorn, it's lit on and it gets bigger. 902 00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:28.440 You never in a billion tubs have you ever bought 903 00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:30.679 a tub of popcorn here that they're for, Like, wow, 904 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:34.719 I feel full in binger for four years, I lived 905 00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:35.239 up energy. 906 00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:38.360 Jed, let's go drive a nuclear sub right now. 907 00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:40.400 Let's go Missile Moscow. I'm ready to go. 908 00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:45.119 I think it probably goes It probably goes Dot's Boot 909 00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:47.639 and then I really like Hunt for the Right October. 910 00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:49.400 But I think it's probably Crimson Tides number two. Have 911 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:51.480 you guys ever seen Crimson recently? And I didn't really 912 00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:53.719 get it? Really be so good? 913 00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:58.320 Atlantis The Lost Empire or disneyse twenty Thousand Leagues under 914 00:39:58.320 --> 00:39:58.599 the Sea. 915 00:39:58.719 --> 00:39:59.960 Oh Atlantis, I really really? 916 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.960 They liked, Yeah, that's actually a good movie. Does Spear count? 917 00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:03.840 I love Sphere? 918 00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:06.400 Sure, I'll give you spear all right. Spear is my favorite. 919 00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:08.840 It's like the sphere where all the body organs are going. 920 00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:10.079 You guys talked about. 921 00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:13.239 No Spear, No Spear is Michael Crichton about the alien 922 00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:14.199 sphere underwater. 923 00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:16.599 It's really fun. I think the abyss also counts. 924 00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:19.800 While it's you know there, yes, yes, and that's like 925 00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:22.280 all that underwater stuff. There are obviously somemarines in there, 926 00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:24.719 but it's about a submersible drilling rig and stuff like that. 927 00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:27.079 I need like a wacky alien thing going on or 928 00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:29.519 a weird goo monster like abyss or sphere, like I 929 00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:31.360 need something beyond just like it's underwater. 930 00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:33.480 What if they were spaceships instead, and they were kind 931 00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:34.920 of had like dealing with the same things with. 932 00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:37.039 Their aliens trying to kill them. 933 00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:40.480 What if it's just other humans in spaceships. Why are 934 00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:42.719 the spaceships in the ocean? No, No, what if they're 935 00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:48.440 in space instead, like because like a space. 936 00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:49.719 Like spaceships in a hostile environment. 937 00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:52.000 Yeah, yeah, it's okay, So I think it may have. 938 00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:53.760 Just alien Yeah. I love these. 939 00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:55.840 Yeah, but those space ships are basically just the same 940 00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:56.760 things as submarine. 941 00:40:57.280 --> 00:40:59.280 Yeah, but there's like fun fiction. It's not just like 942 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:01.280 politics and military. 943 00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:03.239 You know, I promise you most of the things he'd 944 00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:07.639 submarine movies are fiction. I think a real accurate Submary 945 00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:08.719 movie would be very boring. 946 00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:12.280 Yeah, raised on like Cold War intrigue, and I don't 947 00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:13.199 really know anything about that. 948 00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:18.000 Like, okay, I've got metal gear. 949 00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:18.559 I'm fine. 950 00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:21.000 Was the Cold War when they opened that portal to 951 00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.280 Hell and then they started out just like. 952 00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:28.719 I can tell you about the quack talking about Joseph 953 00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:32.119 McCarthy and Hugh ac and fucking all that ship. 954 00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:33.400 I could go into the Cold War. 955 00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:37.000 I know you just said they have pigs. 956 00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:40.760 Shake Guavara, Which is this stuff you're pulling from, like 957 00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:42.159 the clips in metal gear? 958 00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:43.719 Like where's this coming from? 959 00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:45.639 I listened to Rage Against the Machine a lot in 960 00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:50.239 high school and read some like Shag Guavara books, and uh, yeah, listen, 961 00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:52.239 I listened to a lot of Rage the Machine. Sure 962 00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:55.559 I need to start reading the Communist Manifesto. I'm gonna 963 00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:57.199 go to this. I'm gonna spend my Saturday nights. 964 00:41:57.039 --> 00:41:59.199 In high school at Borders reading you got you gotta 965 00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:00.559 read us capital instead. 966 00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:02.320 Sure, we're gonna get you a lot further. 967 00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:06.039 Yeah, yeah, I remember there was that I forget who 968 00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:10.280 it was. That political uh megaphone of a human I 969 00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:14.119 forget it was saying like Tom Morello had tweeted something. Uh, 970 00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:16.119 and then he said, like, go back to writing music. 971 00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:19.000 You don't need to be political, was it? 972 00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:24.280 H It was like Tucker Carlson, Tucker Carlson, Yeah, we're 973 00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:25.119 going to be happy to talk of. 974 00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:27.760 Their songs are about how how fucked up Vietnam was 975 00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.480 Agent of Orange, Yeah, Priest of Hiroshima. 976 00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:31.239 Yeah? 977 00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:34.159 They who is the Romney's running mate was a Paul 978 00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:36.599 Ryan that like the guy with the goofy like weightlifting pictures. 979 00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:37.239 Paul Ryan. 980 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:38.760 Yeah, it was like a huge rate. He's like, what's 981 00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:40.599 your lifting music? And he's like, I love Rage. 982 00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:44.000 Against the machines like you yeah, this guy. Sorry, I'm 983 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:44.840 getting political again. 984 00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:50.079 Yea born in the USA for his campaign. 985 00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.599 Sure, yes, I just saw a video of Rachegan's machine 986 00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:57.039 like in like in somewhere like two thousand and nine. 987 00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:00.039 They made one of their songs number one in the 988 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.760 UK because fans didn't want the X Factor guy to 989 00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:05.920 like win the number one. It was killing the name 990 00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:08.559 of Yes, and it's that they use. Whoever has number 991 00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:12.079 one gets to perform on the BBC for like a Christmas. 992 00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:13.800 Special and they're like, please just don't swear. 993 00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:15.920 And then he's like, oh, I won't do what you 994 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:17.320 tell me, and he's not and he's I won't do 995 00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:18.559 what you tell me, and then he just turns to 996 00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:20.519 the camera and flicks it off and just goes fuck you, 997 00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:23.320 I won't do what you tell me, like twenty times. 998 00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:25.679 It rules. It's so great. They also got kicked off 999 00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:27.280 SNL like back in the Early. 1000 00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:30.239 Night and the guy climbed on the VMA like statues 1001 00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:31.440 and stuff now to celebrate that. 1002 00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:34.559 Yeah, but days and no movie gonna be good. I 1003 00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:35.679 saw the trailer for that before. 1004 00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:41.079 Probably it's got a like a focus at least on like, oh, 1005 00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:44.239 it's just like the minutes leading up to the first broadcast. 1006 00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:47.559 I normally don't like that like kind of biopic or like, uh, 1007 00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:50.360 dramatization type stuff. But like if it's just like, hey, 1008 00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:52.440 here's like the ninety minutes before the first show went 1009 00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:54.760 on the air, that's a little more roading. It's a 1010 00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:57.559 good question. What's it called? Is it Saturday Night. 1011 00:43:57.639 --> 00:43:59.960 Seven minutes to air? Seven minutes to air or something? 1012 00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:04.280 Are twenty Saturday Night said, I'm thinking of that. What 1013 00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:12.079 I'm thinking of that documentary are my mistake by H J. 1014 00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:12.760 Ramon. 1015 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:16.639 Okay, what else did Jason Raymond do? Besides he did 1016 00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:18.559 Up in the Air right, Oh. 1017 00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.920 That was Ghostbusters Afterlife. So he's not the good like 1018 00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:25.800 a Nepo's son. There's the one that did what's the 1019 00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:29.719 Jungle Book? Not Jungle Book Jumanji. Those new Jumanji movies 1020 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.119 is done by Nepo. Baby, those are really good. Jason 1021 00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:34.880 Raymond did Ghostbusters Afterlife, and I don't think he's very good. 1022 00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:37.079 Jason Raymond did thank you for smoking, which I remember 1023 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:39.159 being pretty good, you know, which looked bad. 1024 00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:41.679 Up in the Air I liked, you know, in the 1025 00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:43.840 Air is okay? I like up in the air. Up 1026 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:45.159 in the Air is good. Yeah. It looks like he 1027 00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:46.400 works with a lot. 1028 00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:48.280 Yes, I think George Clooney does a lot of the 1029 00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:49.639 heavy lifting on up in the Air. 1030 00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:53.360 Okay. Wow. Yeah. 1031 00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:57.480 George Clooney's counterpart in that movie is the psychiatrist from 1032 00:44:57.480 --> 00:44:57.880 the Department. 1033 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:08.079 Yeah, she's Italian? Am I figuring it out? You're getting it, dude, 1034 00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:08.960 I'm I'm proud. 1035 00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:10.199 Well done? Are you? 1036 00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.880 Has Dan been learning to like, oh my god, this 1037 00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:20.440 exists on the other timeline. Yeah, Dan was like, uh, 1038 00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:23.719 surprised to find out that I, Mike Minatti am Italian 1039 00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:26.800 and his friend Vinnie Caravella was Italian. 1040 00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:29.519 That was surprise Italian. It's nice. I'll say it again. 1041 00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:32.599 It's not that I didn't know, it's just that I 1042 00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:33.800 never thought about it. 1043 00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:35.239 Dan doesn't see color, guys. 1044 00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:39.199 He tells us this all the time, and that includes 1045 00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:41.719 that includes last names. 1046 00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:44.039 But like, my last name is pretty obvious, where. 1047 00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:46.519 I would not agree only because I know your family 1048 00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:48.599 and I've heard you talk about being Irish a bunch like, 1049 00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:49.519 I know you're Irish. 1050 00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:52.599 I gotta I got even with someone who definitely has 1051 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:56.280 like a lot of Scottish heritage. I conflate Scottish and 1052 00:45:56.320 --> 00:45:59.280 Irish quite frust Yeah. Yeah, I just got to remember 1053 00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:06.639 that screwsged Big Duck is Scottish. Shamous is Irish, Yeah, 1054 00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:09.199 Shamus is Irish. McIntyre is. 1055 00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:13.079 We're normally I can Finally we're over the fifty percent 1056 00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:14.840 wrestling where I could talk wrestling on fires game and 1057 00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:15.440 hope people. 1058 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:16.679 A probably congratulations. 1059 00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:20.159 Yeah, Finley was I Finley was my favorite Irish wrestler. Finley. 1060 00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:22.920 Look, if you're holding a chilele, you're Irish. Yeah, I 1061 00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:23.639 should get a Chile. 1062 00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:26.039 I don't know if I could pick a Chile out 1063 00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:30.760 of a police lineup. I don't know what two thousand like. 1064 00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:33.159 They look like a the handle is curved, but they 1065 00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:34.280 look like a cricket club. 1066 00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:35.960 Oh, you don't have to tell me. I've seen them 1067 00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:38.639 determine the ending of many matches. I just didn't know 1068 00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:39.039 if you do. 1069 00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:40.559 It's just the top part of a cave. 1070 00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:43.480 Basically, my grandpa doesn't have like four of them mountainized 1071 00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:44.719 wall between a bunch of other. 1072 00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:46.719 Did he hit you with them? 1073 00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:47.159 Yeah? 1074 00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:49.159 This is this is the venue where I would admit 1075 00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:50.199 that my grandpa. 1076 00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:55.480 Abused me dog holding or is it like he is 1077 00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:57.159 a cane? No, that's a isn't just a cane. It's 1078 00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:01.159 just a cane. Okay. I think Chile's are Irish, definitely 1079 00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:03.840 Irish yet s h I L. 1080 00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:06.719 L wait wait wait wait wait no, no, damn Dan, 1081 00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:09.519 you wouldn't get this in a fucking spelling bee because 1082 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:11.000 that sounds like a proper now and there's no way 1083 00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:13.760 Shi Lee would be not a proper nown. 1084 00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:15.880 It's Irish or Irish Gaelic. 1085 00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:17.800 And I will go into this thinking I'm going to 1086 00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:19.159 get it wrong, and I never think. 1087 00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:21.480 Okay, Gaelic Gaelic is very hard, but. 1088 00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:25.800 It is very difficult. That's why I'm no. Okay. Already 1089 00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:27.480 I knew I was gonna be fucked on that one. Yeah, 1090 00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:31.480 s H I L L E L A g h Oh, 1091 00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:34.400 there's no fucking way. I only learned this because I 1092 00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:36.760 tried to google it and I spelled it very wrong. 1093 00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:42.159 Yeah, at this picture of Lay's there's a Dan. Have 1094 00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:44.199 you been to swift here in the East Village, the 1095 00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:44.880 Irish pub. 1096 00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:46.159 I'm sure you've taken me there. 1097 00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:49.639 Problem, yeah, a bunch of it's they've got a bunch 1098 00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:52.280 of street signs from Ireland behind the bar. And like 1099 00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:54.960 my middle name, half of my family's middle names are 1100 00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:55.920 like our Gaelic. 1101 00:47:56.880 --> 00:48:00.400 It makes no sense to me, but I tried to signs. 1102 00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:02.119 It's like Irish. 1103 00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:05.840 Irish, the Irish language basically okay, they're Scottish Gapelic as well. 1104 00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:09.119 They're sort of similar but also very different. But yeah, 1105 00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:12.159 it's it's so hard for me to read, I think 1106 00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:16.480 for most people. But the street signs. I asked the bartender, 1107 00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:19.320 I'm like, am I close? He's like, no, none at all. 1108 00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.679 Dan, Why do you think people in Ireland and Scotland 1109 00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:30.920 speak English? Because they're close to England That's part of it, 1110 00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:28.599 that's not. 1111 00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:33.920 But why would be close to England maybe be a problem? 1112 00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:39.320 Did England own them and force them to learn English? 1113 00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:40.760 Own is? Yeah? 1114 00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:48.280 The way they like didn't like one own Canada? Yeah, 1115 00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:50.440 I mean I did at one point. Like it's now 1116 00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:53.039 part of the they have the Queen on their money, commonwealth, 1117 00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:54.880 Yeah right, it's part of the Commonala thank you. Yes, 1118 00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:59.599 they treated Ireland and Scotland very poorly. 1119 00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:00.880 Woke up. 1120 00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:04.239 Have you seen the MELI like. 1121 00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:06.440 You were alive from Wait? Are they affiliated now? 1122 00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:10.039 No, Ireland's not part of the UK anymore. Sorry, Northern 1123 00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:14.000 Ireland's part of the UK because Ireland the troubles in 1124 00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:16.639 the nineties, like not just the nineties came to a head. 1125 00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:18.840 That's called the Troubles. It's a very eerie name. But 1126 00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:23.199 Catholics and Protestants in Ireland were divided because many of 1127 00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:26.440 the Protestants, largely from Northern Ireland, were loyal. 1128 00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:27.599 To the crown. Uh. 1129 00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:30.800 And then you know, the Republic of Ireland was largely 1130 00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:33.840 Catholic and wanted to not be under their thumb. And 1131 00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:36.960 it caused a whole lot of ship and terrorism both sides. 1132 00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:37.400 Terrorism. 1133 00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:39.320 Both sides were like to be clear, it wasn't like 1134 00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:43.639 good and bad, but both sides were being uh bombs. 1135 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:46.199 No, I know enough of this because I know there 1136 00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:48.039 was a drink that was very popular. 1137 00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:52.800 You get in this context you can say the Irish 1138 00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:55.280 car bomb came from then it's you wouldn't order an 1139 00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:57.440 Irish car bomb, right, we. 1140 00:49:57.400 --> 00:49:59.280 Should say, if you're from Ireland and you want to 1141 00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:00.960 make fun of nine, then we give you permisison cause 1142 00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:02.679 we're gonna talk about Irish car bombs for a second, 1143 00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:04.280 so just go have your fun. 1144 00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:09.320 Like that relates to some historical thing I don't know about, 1145 00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:10.320 but I'm just not going to say it. 1146 00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:12.599 No, no, yeah, it's definitely don't say it in Ireland. 1147 00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:14.920 Yes, yeah, no, it's it's not. I'm just saying like, 1148 00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:17.840 but you can, like in the context we're talking about. Yes, 1149 00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:21.280 the the name of however very distasteful it is. 1150 00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:25.239 It came from came from the little terists. Yes, you 1151 00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:28.760 should never drinks after terrorism. If I went into a 1152 00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:30.880 bar and it's something called the Oklahoma City bomb, I 1153 00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:32.559 would order it. 1154 00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:34.440 It's kind of you just call it like the McVeigh. 1155 00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:34.840 I think. 1156 00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:39.679 Okay, that's pretty good too. Yeah drink. 1157 00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:44.400 Yeah, No, I'm glad you're catching on to people's last names. 1158 00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:47.480 Well maybe it's not really Maybe better you're not just 1159 00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:49.800 assuming people like reading their last thing. 1160 00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:51.159 Yeah, you still have to be careful. 1161 00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:54.400 Yeah, it just it's not that I have a strategy 1162 00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:56.559 for this. It's just it doesn't ever. I don't ever 1163 00:50:56.719 --> 00:50:58.159 think about it. It's just like I don't know all 1164 00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:00.480 we were all Belgian grown up and no one never 1165 00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:02.159 made it. Somebody to be like, oh, record must be 1166 00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:03.960 this or that, and like, I don't know if it 1167 00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:04.639 was just. 1168 00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:07.320 Some of them are just easier than as I think generally, 1169 00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:11.440 picking out Italian names is considered probably easy mode of 1170 00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:15.440 identifying people's heritage, basically right. 1171 00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:16.599 And going into my head. 1172 00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:19.239 I think if you had told me months ago, like 1173 00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:22.639 what do you think Manati is, you know, I would 1174 00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:23.440 probably say it. 1175 00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:25.440 I'd get there, but I had never thought of it before. 1176 00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:28.360 You know, I grew up well, Syracuse was largely Italian 1177 00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:31.840 and Irish and some Ukrainian, so like we grew up 1178 00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:35.599 with very all my friends mainly growing up were of 1179 00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:38.360 Italian descent, so it was easy to pick that out. 1180 00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:41.199 Yeah, same for me in a twenty four mile north 1181 00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:44.800 of Detroit. It was huge Italian culture in Albanian yep. 1182 00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:47.320 I think it's of Italians in Northeast Ohio, including me. 1183 00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:49.280 I think where I grew up just had no identity. 1184 00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:52.360 What's like the suburbs of Kansas City was like, I 1185 00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:54.840 don't know, I'm half German, half Belgian, and like I 1186 00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:56.599 didn't know what any of my friends where. I never 1187 00:51:56.639 --> 00:51:58.920 heard any of my friends talk about their heritage or anything. 1188 00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:01.559 We're all Catholic. Everyone was just Catholic, that's all I know. 1189 00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:03.840 They had to do like we had like heritage week 1190 00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:05.360 in like middle school. We all had to do like 1191 00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:07.400 a book report on like one of our parents, like 1192 00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:09.119 where they came from, things like that. 1193 00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:11.920 If everyone was Catholic, though they were probably quite a 1194 00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:13.039 few Irish and Italian. 1195 00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:16.239 If that was the police, it just probably never come up. 1196 00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:19.440 Sure, yeah, that's actually the probably the most default scenario. Yeah, 1197 00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:21.599 or Polish, Yeah yeah, most most It probably just wouldn't 1198 00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:24.039 come up in the suburbs of America really, sure. 1199 00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:29.320 Yeah, but that was our that's the politics section I mentioned. 1200 00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:32.119 I think, yeah, we did it. Think we're three any history. Well, 1201 00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:33.599 so we'll see in the emails next week how many 1202 00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:34.760 people we pissed off. 1203 00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:37.360 Most of them we won't be here. That's your problem. 1204 00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:39.920 In Irish passport, so that I could be like, oh 1205 00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:41.519 I can I can talk about this stuff. 1206 00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:44.639 I'm Irish now there you go. I heard I could 1207 00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:47.400 do that with Italy. Also, they just opened Italy just 1208 00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:51.079 opened it up to great grandchildren. I believe now I'm 1209 00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:51.840 just grandchildren. 1210 00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:57.320 Ireland and Italy are now at least grandchildren children. 1211 00:52:57.320 --> 00:52:59.280 I don't know if I'd like that. I like how 1212 00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:01.159 I immediately him gate keeping. 1213 00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:09.920 One of the people. Where was Grana from Rome really 1214 00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:13.400 adopted adopted in room? Yeah? 1215 00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:18.679 Uh, fought in World War two or the Italians, big 1216 00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:19.559 Mussolini guy. 1217 00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:24.159 Yeah. Shortly after that, came to America. Yep. How would 1218 00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:24.840 that transition go? 1219 00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:27.719 I wonder pretty I mean, I think he liked it 1220 00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:30.440 much better here. You know example, like I said, you know, 1221 00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:32.360 there were there are a ton of Italians. He had 1222 00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:35.480 some family that was already here, but it was pretty easy, 1223 00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:38.239 and steel mills were very plentiful in this area, so 1224 00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:40.920 it's very easy to just get a well paying job 1225 00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:43.199 in the steel mills almost immediately. 1226 00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:45.719 And then from that he started huge Italian culture in 1227 00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:47.400 that area. Yes, did he go through New York? 1228 00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:50.480 Yeah, he went on through and then straight to Ohio 1229 00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:52.119 because he had family and friends there. Straight to Ohio 1230 00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:54.000 because he already had some people here that he knew, 1231 00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:54.639 right exactly. 1232 00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:56.320 Yeah, my grandpa did a transition. 1233 00:53:56.679 --> 00:53:59.159 My grandpa Ellis Island was closed for like one of 1234 00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:01.760 the few times it had for whatever reason, So he 1235 00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:05.119 went through Brooklyn, per A and he hung out here 1236 00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:07.880 for a bit and worked on he worked construction, and 1237 00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:10.480 then he eventually went at to Syracuse with my grandma 1238 00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:12.679 after they had they had they had met and then 1239 00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:16.519 went to this like Irish heritage dance in Brooklyn, and 1240 00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:18.920 then like she told him at the dance that she 1241 00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:21.639 was moving up to a place called Syracuse, and then 1242 00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:25.039 like a week later they decided to go together, and 1243 00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:27.239 then they got I had eleven kids. 1244 00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:30.639 Oh man, very sweet. Now we're all getting Irish citizenship. 1245 00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:33.800 Ireland doesn't know what's coming. Very bad move. 1246 00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:38.119 That upstate New York vibes that upstate New York, I 1247 00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:38.960 guess I never really know it. 1248 00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:42.440 Yes, central New York. 1249 00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:44.960 But if you're like in New York City and you 1250 00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:47.519 say upstate, most people think you mean like Westchester Yonkers. 1251 00:54:48.039 --> 00:54:51.159 But I'm way upstate, not quite Messina or Plattsburgh, but 1252 00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:54.199 I'm central. It's like literally in the center. However, center 1253 00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:55.480 you can be in a weird shaped state. 1254 00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:59.000 How far are you from Binghampton, a nor How far 1255 00:54:59.039 --> 00:55:02.280 are you two hours north? How about Utica? An hour 1256 00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:03.679 west of Utica? 1257 00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:06.360 Holiday Valley? I don't know it. 1258 00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:09.159 Yeah, that's a ski resort in state of New York 1259 00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:12.679 that I really like what Melan. I don't have no idea. 1260 00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:14.199 I just got I've got put on a bus and 1261 00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:16.960 we went there. I had no ideas and probably. 1262 00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:19.119 Must have been wait, wait a second, what It would 1263 00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:21.320 be pretty good content for something. Dan and I went 1264 00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:23.559 skiing for the first thing I've always wanted to. 1265 00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:25.719 Oh my god, yes you could just come in here. 1266 00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:26.960 They're skiing all around me. 1267 00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:31.440 Here's have you guys noticed this? Maybe or maybe you 1268 00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:33.760 all do this? I love any time any kind of 1269 00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:35.840 trip comes up, Dan immediately just tries to make it 1270 00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:37.880 happen in Minneapolis. 1271 00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:43.320 Every other country this whole summer. I just want to 1272 00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:46.320 stay in Minnesota for I don't want to stay a 1273 00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:49.320 different continent by myself when this episode goes up that 1274 00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:50.280 doesn't speak well. 1275 00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:56.079 I have to travel and go by myself wide the subway. Yeah, 1276 00:55:56.119 --> 00:55:59.559 I have panic tags on every fucking plight. It's it's stressful. 1277 00:55:59.880 --> 00:56:00.639 I have not ever played. 1278 00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:02.599 It's actually got a lot better, but it's still it's 1279 00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:04.880 I want to have a weekend at home just sitting 1280 00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:05.400 on a couch. 1281 00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:06.920 I know I do too. 1282 00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:10.199 I have the best scaling skiing in Minneapolis, and see 1283 00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:11.400 if it's actually any good? 1284 00:56:11.599 --> 00:56:14.719 I see, I see like neighborhoods in Minnesota that just 1285 00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:15.760 have ski jumps on the. 1286 00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:17.880 Side of the road. Yeah, yeah, I've seen that. It's 1287 00:56:18.039 --> 00:56:19.800 very very street. 1288 00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:23.400 That's kind of it's just our first time. We're not 1289 00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:24.199 gonna be double. 1290 00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:25.599 Back, I know. 1291 00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:28.440 I promise you. It's much easier to learn off the 1292 00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:30.320 Bunny hill. You don't you don't you want you want 1293 00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:32.239 to go on the blue easiest one, but you actually 1294 00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:33.719 want to because the Plnny Hill it's so hard to 1295 00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:36.079 like get momentum. You have to actually just get going 1296 00:56:36.119 --> 00:56:37.960 a little. But here's what the French Fries. We need 1297 00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:39.320 the Yeah, I've seen that South Park. 1298 00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:43.480 We would need Jan to film it, and I cannot 1299 00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:45.400 even picture Jan Achola. 1300 00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:48.000 It's snowy skiing situation. 1301 00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:50.280 I would film it because I'm pretty competent on the 1302 00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:52.960 on the snowboard and stuff like that. Three sixty cams, 1303 00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:54.400 I got the go pros, I got all that ship. 1304 00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:57.639 So yeah, okay. I did break a girl's arm once 1305 00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:00.159 that I was very excited. 1306 00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:02.840 To go just like uh, you know, like skating and 1307 00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:08.719 like a skate rink recently, and I immediately broke my wrists. 1308 00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:10.400 She stopped in front of me and she fell and 1309 00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:12.559 we were like flirting, and then she fell right in 1310 00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:14.360 front of me and I stopped as hard as I could, 1311 00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:17.320 but my snowboard went right over her arm and basically 1312 00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:18.280 snapped her forearm and half. 1313 00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:22.199 It was terrible. Is that that's right? Wow? Hastas and 1314 00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:25.639 heeled that for. I don't know if you broke her arm. 1315 00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:26.719 I think it was kind of. 1316 00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:29.480 I just take responsibility. I was skating too close. I 1317 00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:32.480 should not have been doing that. But you know, what 1318 00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:33.719 about what is the alternative here? 1319 00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:33.920 Bike? 1320 00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:35.440 I say she was asking for it. 1321 00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:42.440 No, Wow, I grew up snowboarding, but I've been wanting 1322 00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:43.639 to try skiing for a while. 1323 00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:45.960 Yeah, I've never really skied. I've only snowboarded. 1324 00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:48.360 But I like snowboarding a lot, so I don't think 1325 00:57:48.360 --> 00:57:51.079 I'm gonna mess with snowboard. I think that's fine, probably 1326 00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:51.519 the way to go. 1327 00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:54.000 Like, we can do that. You guys get the skis. 1328 00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:54.440 That'd be fun. 1329 00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:56.719 You could do you can recreate the Flanders Homer things 1330 00:57:56.719 --> 00:57:58.360 like I'm wearing nothing at all. 1331 00:57:58.199 --> 00:57:58.599 Let's do it. 1332 00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:00.880 Let's do a skia though, everybody, you all come here 1333 00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:02.480 and we'll ski around here. 1334 00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:04.559 Yeah Hoboken lifts. 1335 00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:08.239 Yeah, I would have go Okay, I like it. 1336 00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:08.800 I don't like it. 1337 00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:14.559 Electoville, Ellicottvilleville, Ellicottville, New York is where Holiday Valley is, 1338 00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:16.360 I know, Okay, yeah. 1339 00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:18.679 It's a problem assuming somewhere like Southern Catskills. 1340 00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:23.000 Yeah, Southern cats Skills. Yeah, what are these dames? 1341 00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:24.039 Guys? 1342 00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:26.000 Mount mountains? It is cool. 1343 00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:29.760 Actually, it's looks like it's due south of Buffalo. Is 1344 00:58:29.800 --> 00:58:30.519 that Catskills? 1345 00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:34.400 I know that that's. 1346 00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:35.840 Semi close to sir. Buffalo is two hours west. 1347 00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:39.440 Of It looks like forty five minutes north of the 1348 00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:41.559 eighty six Yeah eighty six. 1349 00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:45.199 Yeah, just south of Buffalo, not just south. But yeah, 1350 00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:46.480 I don't know. That place was great though. 1351 00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:48.679 I had a really long trail that you could ski 1352 00:58:48.719 --> 00:58:50.880 down for like twenty minutes, and that's what I really like. 1353 00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:55.920 Let's do that or just all get drunk in New Orleans. Yeah, 1354 00:58:56.039 --> 00:59:00.199 let's go both. They both sound fun. Yes, sure do. 1355 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:05.320 The classic Holiday Valley Chicago New Orleans trip that everybody had. 1356 00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:08.039 That sounds like a good time. Yeah, bang bang bang. 1357 00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:10.639 You guys want to talk about video games? 1358 00:59:11.000 --> 00:59:11.480 Sure? 1359 00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:15.079 Do you ever play Rugrats in Paris on n sixty four? 1360 00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:18.360 No? No, it was like the first Rugrats game. 1361 00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:24.480 So I don't recall this in the movie, but the 1362 00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:26.760 whole game you're in a theme park in Paris and 1363 00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:29.840 it's a movie that is they repitar Land. It's like 1364 00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:35.119 a a mini open world, reptile Land, and then you're 1365 00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:38.360 going around to the different like mini games. Is this 1366 00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:40.599 the podcast the game of the week and I still 1367 00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:44.000 have it? It's the black cartridge there was, but after 1368 00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:45.920 a while we realized there were only like two good 1369 00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:48.239 mini games, one of which was like Putt Putt? 1370 00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:49.239 Are Mike that? 1371 00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:51.559 Or Our Marines on the n sixty four? 1372 00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:53.960 Oh god, our Marines over anything modern? 1373 00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:56.079 Do you really shoot like ar Marines? 1374 00:59:56.079 --> 00:59:56.559 Because I don't know. 1375 00:59:57.920 --> 00:59:59.840 It's it's a nostalgia thing. 1376 01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:03.599 It's not okay, okay, I totally get feelings for it. 1377 01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:06.119 Oh that's fine, I get that. No, no, no, yes, I 1378 01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:08.119 still love that game. I have fine feelings for it. 1379 01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:11.119 But it's like, looking back, Dan, you were playing it recently. 1380 01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:11.719 I think when I. 1381 01:00:11.719 --> 01:00:14.119 Visited just No I, I had you over and I 1382 01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:16.320 had the ever Drive on the CRT and I was like, hey, 1383 01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:18.239 name of sixty four Game of Love and you're like 1384 01:00:18.239 --> 01:00:20.000 Our Marines, like right away, oh. 1385 01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:23.199 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it had like the worst straw 1386 01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:27.199 distance of any game on the N sixty four something. 1387 01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:29.239 Yeah, the Alien's coming from like. 1388 01:00:29.239 --> 01:00:31.039 It was that every shooter ranked on N sixty four, 1389 01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:33.159 it was like the second worst one on that list. 1390 01:00:33.239 --> 01:00:36.440 Mike of that weird weird guy that did ut. Yeah. Yeah. 1391 01:00:36.679 --> 01:00:39.719 It was also I remember the controls. I mean it 1392 01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:41.360 was an N sixty four controller. They're trying to do 1393 01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:44.119 a shooter, first person shooter, and it wasn't GoldenEye. I 1394 01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:48.599 mean it was like you had to move left and 1395 01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:52.960 right with the joystick, but then go forward and backwards with. 1396 01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:53.920 The sea buttons. 1397 01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:57.159 I don't know, it was gold Strafe with sea left 1398 01:00:57.159 --> 01:00:59.320 and right, you look up and down with ceps down, 1399 01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:02.079 and then like the center stick was kind of just 1400 01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:02.800 like look around. 1401 01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:03.599 It was all funny. 1402 01:01:03.599 --> 01:01:06.079 You could also hold are and do the joystick to 1403 01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:08.039 look up and down. But yeah you did that maybe 1404 01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:10.719 the yes to your point just like lift it and 1405 01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:14.840 I still to this day I'm inverted on my left hand. 1406 01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:18.440 Sixty four games, yeah, because it made sense because it's 1407 01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:20.920 like it was like a stick halfway through the screen 1408 01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:23.199 that I was tilting. But then Halo came along, and 1409 01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:27.199 even Halo's original controls combat evolves were weird until they 1410 01:01:27.239 --> 01:01:30.960 made the what we now know as first person look 1411 01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:33.400 and walk. They had like some weird left and right 1412 01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:40.320 stuff as well. Yeah, anyway, speaking of speaking, there's no 1413 01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:42.079 real uh seguela. 1414 01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:46.719 Nothing you can do here on the podcast. 1415 01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:48.519 We've been there. 1416 01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:50.639 We come in with the game stuff. They all rugrats 1417 01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:51.280 and all that stuff. 1418 01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:52.719 That's what we came in. I like it. I like it. 1419 01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:53.199 I like it. 1420 01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:56.559 Before you say anything, Mike, I am curious here because 1421 01:01:57.320 --> 01:01:59.840 this is not really a genre. I hear you liking 1422 01:01:59.880 --> 01:02:03.000 a ton You're on a podcast with three guys that 1423 01:02:03.320 --> 01:02:06.000 are in love with this game. I don't think i've 1424 01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:09.480 heard anyone be anything less than just raving glowing ear, 1425 01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:11.000 and to be fair, I have not heard you say 1426 01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:12.039 anything about this game. 1427 01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:12.400 Yeah. 1428 01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:15.280 Well, Party is a huge Xbox fan boy, so I 1429 01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:17.320 expect him to come in here and be very skeptical. 1430 01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:18.440 Yes, saying is that. 1431 01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:21.079 We're all going to beat the ship out of you. 1432 01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:23.400 I hate that Master Chiefs not in it. 1433 01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:25.159 Really. 1434 01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:31.039 I love three platformers. They definitely do not loom as 1435 01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:33.039 large in my life as you are. Like Tim Turry, 1436 01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:35.480 I've played every three D Mario Odyssey. I think is 1437 01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:39.480 one of like the best games. I think the only 1438 01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:43.360 Mario three D platform that beats is Galaxy one or two. 1439 01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:44.239 I like more. 1440 01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:51.039 It's like Galaxy, and I also have a soft spot 1441 01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:53.039 like Banjo, Kazoo and Twoe I talk about a lot, 1442 01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:54.880 but those I don't talk about for the platforming. I 1443 01:02:54.920 --> 01:03:00.719 talk about those just more like collected on weird, crazy designed. Yeah, 1444 01:03:01.639 --> 01:03:05.880 I think Astrobot's very good. I think it's an extremely 1445 01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:10.119 well crafted game. It feels more to me like a 1446 01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:11.960 theme park, and I mean that as a compliment. It's 1447 01:03:12.039 --> 01:03:14.920 kind of you know, I I think it does gimmicks 1448 01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:17.840 in a good way, like dance. To your point, you 1449 01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:21.079 were mentioning that it's doing some I don't even know 1450 01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:22.960 what you want to call them pickups that I haven't seen, 1451 01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:27.599 like power ups, power ups, the like items and whatnot. 1452 01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:31.519 The frog gauntlets, And. 1453 01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:35.239 I have some annoyances with it, however, and maybe it's 1454 01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:38.800 just because I'm like, I don't know this. So towards 1455 01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:41.559 the end of some of the some of the stages, 1456 01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:46.719 you can find those secret Galaxy flags. Is there a 1457 01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:50.039 way to unlock those without then going back. 1458 01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:52.360 To the screen secret it's a secret exit like Super 1459 01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:53.079 Mario World or. 1460 01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:57.559 Something, So maybe I'm trying to. I guess I'm asking 1461 01:03:57.559 --> 01:03:59.599 if I'm getting frustrated for no reason. So I'll find 1462 01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:01.599 those and be like, well, I want to finish the stage, 1463 01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:03.280 so then I'm going to go back to the normal exit, 1464 01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:04.639 and then I have to go back. Not that I'm 1465 01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:07.320 not enjoying replaying these stages, but sometimes I'm like, I 1466 01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:08.599 want to go see what the next stage is, but 1467 01:04:08.639 --> 01:04:10.079 I was like, I got to replay it, so then 1468 01:04:10.119 --> 01:04:11.440 I can go take the normal exit. 1469 01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:14.079 Are you as you're playing the level, You're you're collecting 1470 01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:16.280 everything first time I. 1471 01:04:16.280 --> 01:04:18.360 Bought, I go back, I'm hundred percent so far. 1472 01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:20.480 Then it's easy because you go back into a level, 1473 01:04:20.519 --> 01:04:22.559 and if you are not scouring every area of the 1474 01:04:22.599 --> 01:04:25.719 bot and just those levels can go pretty quick through them, and. 1475 01:04:25.639 --> 01:04:27.320 It's fun to like see how fast you can do it. 1476 01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:29.519 Actually like that, just you got to like make your. 1477 01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:32.440 Own Oh yeah, and Jeff, you're faster at this game 1478 01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:33.719 than anybody then, yes. 1479 01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:37.719 Yeah, I'm glad you're historically accurate on that. Yes, I'm Jeff. 1480 01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:41.039 It's one of those It's one of those games that 1481 01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:44.079 I like respect it more than I really enjoy it 1482 01:04:44.119 --> 01:04:47.760 because it's extremely well crafted. I'm I'm impressed by it, 1483 01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:50.719 but it's I'm not like, I'm not jumping out of 1484 01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:52.360 my seat while I play it, And that could be 1485 01:04:52.440 --> 01:04:54.119 due to the fact that three D platforms, yeah, are 1486 01:04:54.199 --> 01:04:58.239 not the thing that like, yeah, governs most of my taste. 1487 01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:03.119 But no, I'm it's a very joyful game. I'm it 1488 01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:06.079 feels like they had a lot of fun designing it, 1489 01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:08.000 which is the mark of a good game to me. 1490 01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:11.679 I think you can kind of just feel the passion. Yeah, 1491 01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:13.679 really well crafted it. It does feel like. 1492 01:05:13.639 --> 01:05:18.400 A like a very fine tune theme park, though, you. 1493 01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:20.800 Like like collecting all the bots and being like, oh wow, 1494 01:05:20.840 --> 01:05:23.679 this person from that game, and I think this person. 1495 01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:24.719 Would be here. I have. 1496 01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:30.440 I have some fondness for PlayStation characters for sure, Dan, 1497 01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:32.119 who was the character? Is it a spoiler if you 1498 01:05:32.199 --> 01:05:33.400 tell me you said there was one that you. 1499 01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:38.000 Were I'll just everyone mute right now for like fifteen 1500 01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:38.920 seconds if you don't want to know. 1501 01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:40.840 Wait, can you wait? What stage are they in? 1502 01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:42.360 Oh? Remember that now? 1503 01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:43.400 It was kind of it was like. 1504 01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:46.480 Incredible Crisis is the mister Brisquito? 1505 01:05:47.400 --> 01:05:47.639 Oh? 1506 01:05:47.719 --> 01:05:52.679 Okay, Incredible Crisis one was so insane. What's the messed 1507 01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:53.639 up businessman or something? 1508 01:05:53.679 --> 01:05:58.920 A stressed warrior wear game that's maybe even crazier in 1509 01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:03.519 some ways, it's just about a Japanese family, like we 1510 01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:04.519 have to have we have to. 1511 01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:06.119 Have you played to Jeff because I know I'm going 1512 01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:08.039 to pitch game. 1513 01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:10.760 I shall never heard anyone bring up outside of me 1514 01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:12.519 of their own accord. It's always like me being like 1515 01:06:12.519 --> 01:06:14.000 playing this, check this weird thing out, you know. 1516 01:06:13.960 --> 01:06:17.039 Yeah, this is way past the time Dan told them 1517 01:06:17.039 --> 01:06:17.599 to mute. 1518 01:06:19.239 --> 01:06:20.159 Seconds. Yeah. 1519 01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:22.800 The boss fights are incredibly well done. 1520 01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:24.760 I ah, they're fun and I. 1521 01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:28.400 Love it's I don't know it's their use of space 1522 01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:29.119 on those. 1523 01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:33.159 They never do more than two phases, but and it's 1524 01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:35.559 like still always three hits, and that third hit is 1525 01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:37.400 sometimes like, all right, now you're gonna do an awesome 1526 01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:39.840 platforming stage in the middle of this boss fight, and 1527 01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:41.079 you'll get the end, and then we'll give you the 1528 01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:42.679 funnest third hit you've ever had. 1529 01:06:43.079 --> 01:06:44.480 I've only seen two of them. 1530 01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:48.960 Yeah, octopus his eyeballs and fucking long myself into him. 1531 01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:49.199 Yeah. 1532 01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:51.079 Well, the first one, it's like it's like to finally 1533 01:06:51.079 --> 01:06:54.039 finish off the gorilla, you're just launching into his throat, 1534 01:06:54.079 --> 01:06:56.280 basically like big. 1535 01:06:56.280 --> 01:06:57.920 He's got a big symbol in his throat that is 1536 01:06:57.960 --> 01:06:59.239 the symbol of the power up you have. And he 1537 01:06:59.599 --> 01:07:02.519 never asked why anyone installed that there. It's great, yeah, 1538 01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:03.000 oh yeah. 1539 01:07:03.079 --> 01:07:06.239 Also just I mean it rivals Nintendo for it's like 1540 01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:08.679 nonverbal how it teaches you those things like you just mentioned. 1541 01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:11.079 It's got the same symbol and throw. It's it's incredible 1542 01:07:11.079 --> 01:07:13.800 game design. Again, like I I really don't have many 1543 01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:15.599 qualms with it, but it's definitely not like one of 1544 01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:16.920 the best games I've ever played. 1545 01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:17.599 That's fair. 1546 01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:19.719 Like I don't expect everyone to feel the same as 1547 01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:23.480 I do with every game where Matt you but yeah no, 1548 01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:26.000 but it's like I mean, years ago, when I oppress 1549 01:07:26.079 --> 01:07:27.239 you and pretended I loved it. 1550 01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:29.800 Games to acknowledge. 1551 01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:31.320 I think if you came out here and said like, 1552 01:07:31.360 --> 01:07:32.760 this is a shooty game, which I'm sure there are 1553 01:07:32.800 --> 01:07:34.599 people saying it, then I'd think, like, Okay, you don't 1554 01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:35.880 know what the fuck you're talking about. But it's just 1555 01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:38.280 like it's not really your thing as much as his mind. 1556 01:07:38.320 --> 01:07:40.480 So like everything he said is correct. What a mana 1557 01:07:40.519 --> 01:07:42.880 walks by and like sees some of the stages. She's like, 1558 01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:46.960 I can't help but stop and like, watch the dessert 1559 01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:50.239 world is awesome. What was the one after that that? 1560 01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:51.920 I really like, the sponge one. I don't know if 1561 01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:53.920 you got the sponge Striking World. 1562 01:07:54.639 --> 01:07:55.599 Yeah, shrinking World's great. 1563 01:07:55.639 --> 01:07:58.559 I also really appreciate how often it is switching up, 1564 01:07:59.079 --> 01:08:01.480 Like I I thought the ape escape thing would be 1565 01:08:01.519 --> 01:08:04.280 annoying chasing them down, but I like how they I like. 1566 01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:06.320 I like how they change up the structure. It wasn't 1567 01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:08.119 just a linear A to B two C thing. 1568 01:08:08.280 --> 01:08:10.519 It was an escape level. Here they will continue. 1569 01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:11.880 Yeah, here they all are in. 1570 01:08:12.039 --> 01:08:12.880 There's been a few of those. 1571 01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:15.159 But it's like, oh, this is great because they're actually 1572 01:08:15.199 --> 01:08:16.880 toying with the like objective. 1573 01:08:17.239 --> 01:08:17.359 Oh. 1574 01:08:17.399 --> 01:08:19.520 I literally like when I got the net, I went 1575 01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:22.159 into apiscape mode and was using the right analog stick 1576 01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:24.159 to like play it like ap Escape. It's like, oh, wait, 1577 01:08:24.199 --> 01:08:26.159 this isn't actually shoot ap escape here, you know. 1578 01:08:26.399 --> 01:08:28.000 Yeah, really good game. One of my favorites of the 1579 01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:30.520 year for sure. I don't think it's like changing my 1580 01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:31.520 life though, that's what. 1581 01:08:32.039 --> 01:08:33.079 I do think this is going to be. 1582 01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:33.399 Uh. 1583 01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:35.319 I think it's going to be a pretty safe game 1584 01:08:35.359 --> 01:08:38.079 of the year at a lot of outlets. Uh, come 1585 01:08:38.119 --> 01:08:40.640 game of the Year time. I think I'm going to 1586 01:08:40.680 --> 01:08:42.399 have to fight together as high as I can here. 1587 01:08:42.439 --> 01:08:45.920 But like I don't really hear Mary or Jake, you know, 1588 01:08:46.079 --> 01:08:47.359 Like I don't know. I don't know if it makes 1589 01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:48.840 Fire Escapes game of the Year, you know, because I 1590 01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:50.960 think I'm the one big soapbox guy for it. 1591 01:08:51.399 --> 01:08:52.760 Do you think this is a shoe in for a 1592 01:08:52.760 --> 01:08:53.880 lot of outlets Astrobot? 1593 01:08:54.199 --> 01:08:57.239 Yeah, yeah, it's got a ninety five on Open. 1594 01:08:57.039 --> 01:08:57.640 Critic or something. 1595 01:08:57.680 --> 01:08:59.800 I will eat the biggest hat you've ever found if 1596 01:08:59.800 --> 01:09:02.560 it's not Giant Bombs and min Max's and a bunch 1597 01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:03.520 of other places. 1598 01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:05.399 I wonder how it's going to do at the Game 1599 01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:08.520 Awards because nominated hard to say. I think it has 1600 01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:10.920 a good shot. It would be without it not a gimme. 1601 01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:15.119 Yeah, I I I have other games I've enjoyed more 1602 01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:17.039 than it, for sure. 1603 01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:19.439 But what what? What are your favorite games this year? 1604 01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:22.000 Another one we're talking about tonight, Wild Bastards. 1605 01:09:22.399 --> 01:09:24.680 I you love it that much? Wow? Fell in love 1606 01:09:24.680 --> 01:09:24.880 with it? 1607 01:09:25.359 --> 01:09:27.399 What else this year was Bilatro. 1608 01:09:28.119 --> 01:09:29.239 Prince of Persia lost crown. 1609 01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:30.560 That was great? 1610 01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:31.920 Uh? 1611 01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:34.279 You guys, you guys started DLC for that. It came 1612 01:09:34.319 --> 01:09:38.520 out this week. The Distory DLC is out this week. 1613 01:09:38.840 --> 01:09:39.720 The review should be hitting. 1614 01:09:39.760 --> 01:09:42.000 I think soon you know, none of you fire Escapers 1615 01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:45.880 are Final Fantasy people. I get very upset every us. 1616 01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:48.239 Three of us three are I'm the most I'd say, 1617 01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:50.239 I still have you have to play Rebirth. But every 1618 01:09:50.239 --> 01:09:52.680 time I like, I told, I tell Jake this, and like, 1619 01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:54.159 I still have to play Rebirth, He's like, you're not 1620 01:09:54.199 --> 01:09:54.760 going to play it. 1621 01:09:54.760 --> 01:09:55.359 You don't need to. 1622 01:09:55.920 --> 01:09:57.880 But he's he's not saying that out of disrespect to 1623 01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:00.760 Final Fantasy. I think he just knows that my tolerance 1624 01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:03.560 for like open world stuff, for open world stuff's sake 1625 01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:04.760 and these days. 1626 01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:05.640 But I do want to. 1627 01:10:05.680 --> 01:10:08.960 I love remake, so I want to it hit with 1628 01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:12.000 me real like it probably was my game of the 1629 01:10:12.079 --> 01:10:14.359 year and til Astro but it might you know, who 1630 01:10:14.399 --> 01:10:15.560 knows how I feel at the end of it. 1631 01:10:15.640 --> 01:10:17.680 But uh, and I'll tell you what. That's the one. 1632 01:10:17.760 --> 01:10:19.600 You know, the PlayStation five Pro and all that stuff. 1633 01:10:19.600 --> 01:10:21.840 It's mostly unappealing, but when they show. 1634 01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:26.520 That game, it looks videos that's the one that's like, 1635 01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:28.720 that game does look just a lot better on the 1636 01:10:28.720 --> 01:10:29.640 place you should play pro. 1637 01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:32.399 I don't want to put words in Jake or Mary's mouth. Dan, 1638 01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:34.920 I think right now as a group, I could be 1639 01:10:34.960 --> 01:10:36.720 way off and we'll see. I hope I'm off because 1640 01:10:36.720 --> 01:10:39.640 I don't want to actually active, like correctly predict it. 1641 01:10:39.720 --> 01:10:42.159 Right now, I think Balatro is probably the front runner. 1642 01:10:42.279 --> 01:10:45.560 That's yeah, if it's not as I would for the record. 1643 01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:53.520 Every single anything Russia. 1644 01:10:53.640 --> 01:10:55.960 Zelda, Yeah, it was almost at the end. You and 1645 01:10:56.039 --> 01:10:57.920 Mary tried pulling the rug out from under us and 1646 01:10:57.960 --> 01:10:58.680 making it Pickman. 1647 01:10:59.600 --> 01:10:59.920 I was. 1648 01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:03.359 I was rooting for pick but I was too The 1649 01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:06.279 execution of the switch left a lot to be desired. 1650 01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:09.560 Yeah, Grob had a good baby face turn on Pickman 1651 01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:10.079 during ours. 1652 01:11:10.119 --> 01:11:12.199 He went up to the make up. 1653 01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:15.960 Into the last And I think, right now, when I 1654 01:11:16.039 --> 01:11:18.520 think about the best game I played last year, Pickman four, 1655 01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:18.960 I think. 1656 01:11:18.920 --> 01:11:20.479 Is it you know what resident evil for? 1657 01:11:20.680 --> 01:11:22.760 But sure, Tiers the Kingdom comes up, and I think 1658 01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:24.159 I have I was talking to a lot of people 1659 01:11:24.359 --> 01:11:26.399 in Portland about and Zelda and stuff that was coming 1660 01:11:26.439 --> 01:11:27.880 up a lot, and we were talking about Tears the 1661 01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:29.960 Kingdom and I think I have finally enough time has 1662 01:11:30.039 --> 01:11:31.920 passed where it's like there's that question that came up 1663 01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:33.279 a lot of like, oh, it's Breath the Wild better 1664 01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:36.960 Tiers the Kingdom. I do think I can confidently say 1665 01:11:37.039 --> 01:11:39.239 now that I think I like Breath of the Wild more. 1666 01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:44.840 Yeah, it changed everything basically for open worlds. 1667 01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:47.600 Yeah, and even though there's there's things that Tears the 1668 01:11:47.680 --> 01:11:49.399 Kingdom like it, it does all of that and more. 1669 01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:52.119 There is just something to be said about that first time, 1670 01:11:52.199 --> 01:11:54.439 Like that first time I played Breath the Wild, there's 1671 01:11:54.560 --> 01:11:56.760 no way you could replicate that by just like adding 1672 01:11:56.800 --> 01:11:57.319 more to it the. 1673 01:11:57.359 --> 01:11:59.520 Next time as cool as well. 1674 01:11:59.560 --> 01:12:01.600 Yes, I also think Breath of the Wild is a 1675 01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:05.119 much more focused experience, which is crazy to say when 1676 01:12:05.119 --> 01:12:05.800 it's that big. 1677 01:12:05.800 --> 01:12:07.920 But yeah, I love my time with Tears of the 1678 01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:08.680 Kingdom going. 1679 01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:11.560 I did everything I could underground, most of the stuff 1680 01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:14.720 you can do in all the other biomes, and like 1681 01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:17.479 the bullshit they put in there is my kind of bullshit. 1682 01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:20.359 But here's some just chain physics puzzles. You like that 1683 01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:22.560 ship like, yes, give me more of that. Yeah, But 1684 01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:26.680 Breath of the Wild is a singular experienced. 1685 01:12:26.760 --> 01:12:27.079 Me cry. 1686 01:12:27.399 --> 01:12:29.520 Yeah, you guys talk about how big three platformers are 1687 01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:32.000 in your like general taste map, I don't know what 1688 01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:37.520 you want to call it emergent there immersive. So for 1689 01:12:37.640 --> 01:12:40.439 them to put immersive sim elements into Breath of the wilds, 1690 01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:42.039 like what more news. 1691 01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:44.479 About it goes to wisdom by the way, that's that's 1692 01:12:44.479 --> 01:12:47.039 an immersive soul. Yeah, that's awesome. 1693 01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:49.199 Yeah, I can't wait for that. That that I mean 1694 01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:51.600 that who knows where that jumps up if it's if 1695 01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:52.319 I like it, maybe I. 1696 01:12:52.359 --> 01:12:55.000 Don't, but we'll talk about that next episode probably, Yeah, 1697 01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:56.239 got it soon. 1698 01:12:56.359 --> 01:12:57.560 Yeah that's crazy. Yeah. 1699 01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:01.199 No, overall, I like it's also I think it's an 1700 01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:03.520 easy game to argue for, Like it's there's so many 1701 01:13:03.560 --> 01:13:04.840 things it does really well. 1702 01:13:04.880 --> 01:13:06.439 Wait, it does everything right, right, I mean, even if 1703 01:13:06.439 --> 01:13:09.800 it's not everyone's cup of tea necessarily, the way that 1704 01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:11.640 they set up the levels, the way that they have 1705 01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:14.079 all the extras, the fact that everything between all the 1706 01:13:14.119 --> 01:13:16.840 connective tissue is like here is a fun little thing 1707 01:13:16.880 --> 01:13:18.840 to mess with. It's not part of the objectives, it's 1708 01:13:18.880 --> 01:13:21.840 not part of the extras. It's just a bunch of sprinkles, 1709 01:13:21.880 --> 01:13:23.880 a bunch of it's the zero G level and you're 1710 01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:25.840 running through and now you hit the stars and now 1711 01:13:26.079 --> 01:13:27.760 this time instead of them just falling to the ground, 1712 01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:30.560 they're gonna start floating off into space, and just being 1713 01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:34.600 so playful in every single second, like every five steps 1714 01:13:35.119 --> 01:13:38.000 is just at the sign of a really confident development 1715 01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:39.359 group that really knew what they were doing. 1716 01:13:39.960 --> 01:13:41.239 It's hard not to respect that. 1717 01:13:41.439 --> 01:13:43.840 It's one of the most imaginative games I've played in 1718 01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:44.439 a long time. 1719 01:13:44.760 --> 01:13:47.960 That is what makes it like most like the Galaxy games. 1720 01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:50.640 It's like, oh, they just wrote down every idea they 1721 01:13:50.720 --> 01:13:52.720 had and they took the top ten percent of the 1722 01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:55.000 best of those ideas and made a game using those ideas, 1723 01:13:55.039 --> 01:13:55.439 and it's. 1724 01:13:55.279 --> 01:13:58.600 Incredible that love the Cloud Mario Power yep. 1725 01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:01.640 I would love to see like the deleted levels, the 1726 01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:03.079 cutting room floor in this game. 1727 01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:04.600 Yeah, for sure. 1728 01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:06.880 For the record, earlier, Mike, you said that, oh, you've 1729 01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:09.319 played games better than Astrobot, and I agreed, but I 1730 01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:10.960 didn't realize you were talking about this year. So for 1731 01:14:11.039 --> 01:14:12.840 the record, it is I have not played a game 1732 01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:14.640 this year that I find better than Master. And for 1733 01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:17.760 the record, I'm Team Tiers of the Kingdom. Just wanted 1734 01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:22.159 to say thank you, appreciate it. That's completely reasonable credit. 1735 01:14:23.800 --> 01:14:27.760 Yeah, we give you. Yeah, we're cool. 1736 01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:28.039 Cool. 1737 01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:30.560 My My favorite thing about fire Escape Game of the 1738 01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:33.359 Year is I think it's just a known thing that 1739 01:14:33.479 --> 01:14:37.439 at a certain point the argument it matters, Like the 1740 01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:41.359 argument becomes the key thing. And at a certain point, 1741 01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:43.359 I think one of us always need there's always someone 1742 01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:46.039 in the group that calms down. Is like, Okay, wait 1743 01:14:46.079 --> 01:14:49.039 a minute, I actually think, Yeah. 1744 01:14:49.119 --> 01:14:51.520 Well, you've been drinking for eight straight hours and we're 1745 01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:54.359 exhausted by that point and maybe have broken limbs as 1746 01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:55.159 in the last year. 1747 01:14:56.359 --> 01:14:58.920 How how's maybe gonna hurt you this year? Well, this 1748 01:14:59.039 --> 01:15:02.159 is still pretty broken. She's sending me some she's brainstorming. 1749 01:15:02.199 --> 01:15:04.479 It's gonna be a much more emotional damage this year. 1750 01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:06.039 Look for Assassin. 1751 01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:13.279 Yeah, you do you have any additional thoughts asked about that? 1752 01:15:13.279 --> 01:15:14.319 You didn't say last episode. 1753 01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:17.279 I think for me and Grubbs super Platinum, did we 1754 01:15:17.359 --> 01:15:18.840 think Minati didn't like it enough? 1755 01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:25.720 I guess to the diet, those four extra bots you're 1756 01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:28.039 talking about aren't even in this game. You have to play. 1757 01:15:28.079 --> 01:15:31.039 The number goes up to three five in the game. 1758 01:15:31.159 --> 01:15:33.920 Oh I'm Jeff, I'm like stage capitalism. I only care 1759 01:15:33.920 --> 01:15:35.000 about the number going up. 1760 01:15:35.239 --> 01:15:39.119 Political Mike, here we go. No populated in your fucking 1761 01:15:39.239 --> 01:15:42.000 crash site. They are in the game, like they are 1762 01:15:42.079 --> 01:15:43.399 absolutely part of that game. 1763 01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:50.560 Oh they or whatever it is, there's four. Yeah, we 1764 01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:53.720 won't spoil it. Yeah, gotcha, they're all master chief. 1765 01:15:55.840 --> 01:16:00.560 Yeah as great? Uh okay, I'm sure have we all 1766 01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:02.079 played Wild Bastards or Mike? Did you? 1767 01:16:02.640 --> 01:16:03.520 I played? I played? 1768 01:16:03.640 --> 01:16:05.960 I started it tonight and I played about an hour 1769 01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:08.039 and a half and actually, can I start? 1770 01:16:08.119 --> 01:16:12.239 Because serious because I've heard divisive things on this game. 1771 01:16:12.359 --> 01:16:14.439 And I was talking to Mac Getz, who I work with, 1772 01:16:14.960 --> 01:16:16.600 and he was telling me I didn't realize the game 1773 01:16:16.680 --> 01:16:18.560 was this and that it's like, oh, this is really weird. 1774 01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:20.600 So I'm curious, where are you at, sister ninety minutes 1775 01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:23.520 and I'm on my third playthrough. 1776 01:16:23.600 --> 01:16:26.720 Right, so I did my first to a game over basically, 1777 01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:28.720 so that's where I'm at. So I'm kind of just 1778 01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:31.239 beginning to piece together how the loop feels to me. 1779 01:16:31.319 --> 01:16:33.199 Like Dan did a good job describing it, so understand 1780 01:16:33.199 --> 01:16:35.159 I knew what to expect going in, and I'm like, 1781 01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:37.560 what do I care about when I'm playing this? And 1782 01:16:38.479 --> 01:16:42.079 I think I was the initial sort of Pepsi challenge 1783 01:16:42.199 --> 01:16:46.000 reaction was there's not much to these combat scenarios, so 1784 01:16:46.239 --> 01:16:48.640 I'm going in there and I'm they're kind of arenas 1785 01:16:48.680 --> 01:16:51.680 and I'm going I'm shooting some dudes, So what's what's 1786 01:16:51.720 --> 01:16:54.319 happening here? And it's like, well, let me just keep 1787 01:16:54.319 --> 01:16:56.399 playing and push through that. And then once I realized 1788 01:16:56.520 --> 01:17:00.399 like a lot of the game here is caring about 1789 01:17:00.399 --> 01:17:03.720 what happens in between those sections and improving the characters 1790 01:17:03.920 --> 01:17:06.119 and figuring out like your way through the maps and 1791 01:17:06.159 --> 01:17:08.119 the nodes on the map like a rogue light, and 1792 01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:11.319 and sort of like beginning to piece together the upgrades 1793 01:17:11.359 --> 01:17:13.279 you get, and then getting the permanent upgrade of the 1794 01:17:13.359 --> 01:17:17.680 aces and the infamy. And once I started like really 1795 01:17:17.760 --> 01:17:21.159 caring about that stuff, it made those combat scenarios even 1796 01:17:21.239 --> 01:17:23.239 better and more fun because they don't they don't take 1797 01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:24.279 up a lot of time. You're going to go in 1798 01:17:24.319 --> 01:17:25.439 there and you get to play around with all the 1799 01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:27.760 new stuff you got and you get the like you get, 1800 01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:32.439 for example, a permanent upgrade that causes your jump to 1801 01:17:32.479 --> 01:17:34.640 be like way higher, and it's like, oh, I really 1802 01:17:34.720 --> 01:17:37.840 feel the difference there, So my character build feels very different. 1803 01:17:37.880 --> 01:17:41.000 I think for me, the gold touchstone here for this 1804 01:17:41.159 --> 01:17:43.359 genre is going to always is now always going to 1805 01:17:43.399 --> 01:17:46.560 be Hades, and Hades' thing is every run can feel 1806 01:17:46.720 --> 01:17:50.760 so different. Your character builds can get so bespoke that 1807 01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:53.960 every run feels special, even if it's not the best. 1808 01:17:54.039 --> 01:17:56.560 Like most overpowered build, you begin to like learn to 1809 01:17:56.600 --> 01:17:58.760 love it because you're you're beginning to learn it's it's 1810 01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:01.399 its variabilities. And I was say, Okay, I could see 1811 01:18:01.439 --> 01:18:03.279 that beginning to happen here a little bit, and I'm 1812 01:18:03.319 --> 01:18:05.520 glad that it's not like, oh, five percent improvement to 1813 01:18:05.560 --> 01:18:07.800 your shot. It's like, no, you're gonna get a permanent 1814 01:18:07.920 --> 01:18:10.880 ten hit point upgrade to your shot, and then you're 1815 01:18:10.880 --> 01:18:12.960 going to get these add ons you can get that 1816 01:18:13.039 --> 01:18:14.279 can make you feel very different. 1817 01:18:14.319 --> 01:18:16.199 Okay, and it's hard to click for me. 1818 01:18:16.800 --> 01:18:20.279 Yeah, so, uh before I forget two things of some 1819 01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:22.800 of the aces, especially later in the playthrough, they don't 1820 01:18:22.920 --> 01:18:26.960 just like make something a current mechanic noticeably different. It'll 1821 01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:30.520 be like, oh, now your dynamites blow up into a 1822 01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:33.119 bunch of other smaller dynamites and like secondary so there's 1823 01:18:33.159 --> 01:18:36.760 like actual right mechanical like changes. 1824 01:18:36.960 --> 01:18:39.760 Bullets and now have brimstone fire effect on them. Yeah. 1825 01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:41.319 So again like Haites where it's like you have the 1826 01:18:41.399 --> 01:18:43.399 dodge and now your dodge is an attack. 1827 01:18:43.119 --> 01:18:44.680 And stuff like that, where it's like it builds on 1828 01:18:44.760 --> 01:18:47.479 the stopman coded damage on your Webinner. 1829 01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:51.640 RNG is great in these kind of games because often 1830 01:18:51.760 --> 01:18:55.000 you're selecting things bait, building out what you got before, 1831 01:18:55.079 --> 01:18:57.159 and you're consciously trying to make a certain build. Other 1832 01:18:57.199 --> 01:18:58.920 times you have no choice but to adapt to what 1833 01:18:58.960 --> 01:19:01.039 the game's giving you. So they're a nice give and take. 1834 01:19:01.359 --> 01:19:03.199 You said you played till a game over. 1835 01:19:04.199 --> 01:19:07.239 Yeah, my first like just the like I played until 1836 01:19:07.319 --> 01:19:08.439 my crew all got wiped. 1837 01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:11.159 So did you stop and put it down there? 1838 01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:12.960 I I just stop because I like it to make 1839 01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:13.520 it ki okay. 1840 01:19:14.399 --> 01:19:16.279 So here's the thing about the game, And I'll be 1841 01:19:16.319 --> 01:19:18.039 the first to say this game could do a much 1842 01:19:18.119 --> 01:19:21.239 better job of teaching many of its systems. 1843 01:19:21.399 --> 01:19:22.560 This is what I was going to say, because I 1844 01:19:22.640 --> 01:19:24.800 saw Mary was streaming this and I popped into her 1845 01:19:24.880 --> 01:19:27.279 stream and she just started it. And I think everyone's 1846 01:19:27.319 --> 01:19:29.920 first like hour plus in this game is like what 1847 01:19:30.199 --> 01:19:32.479 is Okay, there's the sector level, but then also this 1848 01:19:32.520 --> 01:19:35.680 stuff on the planet, but then what is persistent three? Yeah, 1849 01:19:35.680 --> 01:19:37.159 And I could tell Mary was kind of still in 1850 01:19:37.239 --> 01:19:38.760 that period of like who do I kill here? 1851 01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:40.680 What do I do? What's you know, like I don't 1852 01:19:40.720 --> 01:19:41.159 really get this. 1853 01:19:41.359 --> 01:19:43.279 You know, it can be down two guys here, Like 1854 01:19:43.640 --> 01:19:46.399 it takes i'd say at least an hour an hour 1855 01:19:46.399 --> 01:19:48.079 and a half to kind of start clicking and grub. 1856 01:19:48.119 --> 01:19:49.800 It sounds like you're kind of yeah. 1857 01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:51.640 It's where I'm like, I did realize, so I did 1858 01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:54.039 play like just a touch further where it's like, Okay, 1859 01:19:54.439 --> 01:19:56.399 I have the one character that I picked to survive, 1860 01:19:56.600 --> 01:19:58.880 and then I saw the Golden coffin and I'm like, oh, 1861 01:19:59.239 --> 01:20:01.039 they taught me that that brings back one of these 1862 01:20:01.119 --> 01:20:03.039 characters already, So I bet I'm able to bring back 1863 01:20:03.079 --> 01:20:05.399 these other characters and then I take them back down 1864 01:20:05.479 --> 01:20:06.840 to a planet. Like I haven't done that. 1865 01:20:06.920 --> 01:20:10.159 Part yet, so I'm curious what happens when you load 1866 01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:12.760 back up. Dan, did you finish the first play through? 1867 01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:14.479 I beat the Yeah, I saw credits to a couple 1868 01:20:14.520 --> 01:20:14.840 nights ago. 1869 01:20:15.159 --> 01:20:16.239 Did you do it in one run? 1870 01:20:17.399 --> 01:20:17.439 No? 1871 01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:19.760 Because like that's the thing is like it's the rogue 1872 01:20:19.800 --> 01:20:22.920 light part of it is it seems I thought at first, 1873 01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:25.720 for hours, I thought that if I died, I'm going 1874 01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:28.159 back to the very beginning. And then but it's like 1875 01:20:28.239 --> 01:20:30.199 oh no, that sector, you're going back to the beginning 1876 01:20:30.199 --> 01:20:30.840 of that sector. 1877 01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:33.880 And it really there's there's an iron Man mode that 1878 01:20:33.960 --> 01:20:35.359 will be like a true rogue like that gets you 1879 01:20:35.399 --> 01:20:37.000 all the way back to the your first play through. 1880 01:20:37.119 --> 01:20:39.039 And Dan correct me if I'm wrong in some way. 1881 01:20:39.399 --> 01:20:41.359 It's the first play through is not a rogue light. 1882 01:20:41.960 --> 01:20:44.520 Things are randomized. You will procedural shooter, but you will 1883 01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:47.199 go back on the sector map. You will go back 1884 01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:48.680 to the start of that, but it's not sending you 1885 01:20:48.720 --> 01:20:50.640 to the beginning of the game. It's a rogue light 1886 01:20:50.840 --> 01:20:53.359 light you have like a checkpoint. It's basically taking to 1887 01:20:53.520 --> 01:20:55.760 a checkpoint. Yeah, so like if you if you get 1888 01:20:56.039 --> 01:20:57.880 if you pick up an ace or two, like a 1889 01:20:57.960 --> 01:20:59.960 chorus or a charge days. Charge days are the one 1890 01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:03.680 that you have to rest your characters, uh to actually utilize. 1891 01:21:04.800 --> 01:21:06.479 You might lose those by going back to the beginning 1892 01:21:06.520 --> 01:21:08.600 of the sector and then the sector will rearrange, but 1893 01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:11.239 you're not actually resetting in a robe like However, Yes, 1894 01:21:11.720 --> 01:21:14.079 but that's the narrative mode, and you're unlocking the characters 1895 01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:16.479 in the same order the first time anybody plays the game. 1896 01:21:16.520 --> 01:21:18.319 And once you unlock them, you're never losing the characters. 1897 01:21:18.319 --> 01:21:20.520 If you have five bastards and you die, you're gonna 1898 01:21:20.520 --> 01:21:21.239 have those five bastards. 1899 01:21:21.479 --> 01:21:22.840 They all have to get injured and they go back 1900 01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:26.800 to the beginning of sector and also injured. Yeah yeah, yeah, 1901 01:21:27.640 --> 01:21:30.600 So it's in the new game play and I still 1902 01:21:30.640 --> 01:21:33.439 think the narrative the first play through is super fun. 1903 01:21:33.479 --> 01:21:36.560 I think the character designs great. I love finding different 1904 01:21:36.600 --> 01:21:38.760 synergies because for anybody who hasn't played it, you could 1905 01:21:38.760 --> 01:21:41.199 just press R one or RB and you immediately become 1906 01:21:41.760 --> 01:21:43.520 your you go down in Duo's. 1907 01:21:43.359 --> 01:21:45.319 Yeah, they can only go down. They can only be 1908 01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:46.720 on the field one at a time, but you can 1909 01:21:46.760 --> 01:21:47.880 have multiple there and you can switch. 1910 01:21:49.439 --> 01:21:49.640 Yeah. 1911 01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:51.560 And if you played Void Bastards, that was two layers, 1912 01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:54.119 like the FTL layer where you're unlocking certain doors or 1913 01:21:54.199 --> 01:21:57.039 no sorry, yeah, you're you're traveling across space, and then 1914 01:21:57.199 --> 01:21:58.119 there's the shooter section. 1915 01:21:58.279 --> 01:21:58.800 This has three. 1916 01:21:58.920 --> 01:22:01.960 There's traveling space, there's when you beam down to the 1917 01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:04.960 planet you're on this like board game map, and then 1918 01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:07.279 there's the shoot arenas. In the arenas are bite size, 1919 01:22:07.359 --> 01:22:12.079 quick fire like Quake, almost Doom esque like with Halo 1920 01:22:12.319 --> 01:22:14.880 Enemy variety. And I've seen reviews saying that the enemy 1921 01:22:14.960 --> 01:22:18.199 variety is very low. However, when you get into Lake game, 1922 01:22:18.880 --> 01:22:20.800 there's a lot of messaging. Dan, I was like, I counted, 1923 01:22:20.840 --> 01:22:22.159 there's twenty different kinds of. 1924 01:22:22.840 --> 01:22:24.680 You get the like you get the data pads that 1925 01:22:24.760 --> 01:22:26.880 show you how many sucks there are. At least there's 1926 01:22:26.880 --> 01:22:27.520 at least twenty. 1927 01:22:27.720 --> 01:22:31.279 Yeah, and many of them are like just upstats of 1928 01:22:31.359 --> 01:22:33.720 the Vanilla version. However, there are others that act very 1929 01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:36.920 differently that actually once and again, I think I don't 1930 01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:38.640 think the game is great at teaching you several things. 1931 01:22:38.680 --> 01:22:40.680 I think they want you to learn through trial and error. However, 1932 01:22:41.199 --> 01:22:42.760 some of your decisions you could be making a bad 1933 01:22:42.760 --> 01:22:44.840 decision and have no idea you're about to fuck things 1934 01:22:44.920 --> 01:22:47.079 up again. You're only going back to the beginning of sector. 1935 01:22:47.119 --> 01:22:48.960 But when you start to play the game enough and 1936 01:22:49.079 --> 01:22:51.880 you when you're hovering over a node on the map, 1937 01:22:52.039 --> 01:22:53.720 it shows you the enemy types that will be there, 1938 01:22:54.279 --> 01:22:58.039 so you get characters later on. So, for instance, there's 1939 01:22:58.039 --> 01:23:01.600 a character named Rawhide who's one of my favorites. They 1940 01:23:01.640 --> 01:23:05.720 have the burst sonic rifle, and then there which can 1941 01:23:05.840 --> 01:23:08.560 penetrate shields on yellow Bellies, which are these guys who 1942 01:23:08.640 --> 01:23:10.600 are just like they will run from you, and they 1943 01:23:10.600 --> 01:23:12.319 will force you to flank because they put down these 1944 01:23:12.399 --> 01:23:15.279 green force fields in front of you and they can 1945 01:23:15.319 --> 01:23:17.960 shoot through them, but you can't unless you have raw hide, 1946 01:23:18.319 --> 01:23:20.239 so you'll have to flank them. And then there's sometimes 1947 01:23:20.239 --> 01:23:23.399 when it's like, oh, I'm about to fight twelve yellow bellies. 1948 01:23:23.479 --> 01:23:24.880 This is and I don't have raw hide. This is 1949 01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:25.840 gonna fucking suck. 1950 01:23:26.159 --> 01:23:28.039 Or let's say there's a yellow bellies and then there's 1951 01:23:28.039 --> 01:23:31.880 a bunch of like animals, those coyotes. His stunt will 1952 01:23:31.920 --> 01:23:33.840 fucking take it. The call of the wild stunt or 1953 01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:36.159 whatever will take over those so like it subverts them. 1954 01:23:36.399 --> 01:23:38.239 So like you can shoot through the guys with shields 1955 01:23:38.239 --> 01:23:39.920 and also see these coyotes and be like you're mine. 1956 01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:41.319 Now you're fighting for me, And then you see like 1957 01:23:41.640 --> 01:23:44.159 enemy and ally and like it's so fun when like 1958 01:23:44.319 --> 01:23:46.279 you do a bunch of stunts and shit, or there's 1959 01:23:46.359 --> 01:23:47.920 the girl with the bone arrow that can kind of 1960 01:23:47.920 --> 01:23:50.039 like subvert things. It's like, oh, now I've turned totally 1961 01:23:50.119 --> 01:23:52.279 turned the tide of battle, and there's more of mine 1962 01:23:52.399 --> 01:23:53.319 on the field than there is. 1963 01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:57.119 Yeah, and you can build so stunts are they're ultimates. 1964 01:23:57.319 --> 01:24:01.079 They have unique stats and movements some of them, and 1965 01:24:01.199 --> 01:24:03.399 they have unique weapons and then they have the stunt. 1966 01:24:03.399 --> 01:24:06.039 They're ultimately and you can It took me like three 1967 01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:08.640 hours to realize I could stack those and not even 1968 01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:10.960 oh yeah yeah. So at one point I was raw 1969 01:24:11.039 --> 01:24:14.159 Hyde and there were four Grizzlies left. They're one of 1970 01:24:14.159 --> 01:24:15.840 the more difficult animals, and I had four stunts, so 1971 01:24:15.880 --> 01:24:17.399 I just went R one R one, R one, R one, 1972 01:24:17.439 --> 01:24:18.960 and I won and I didn't even see them. 1973 01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:20.479 I had subverted them from across the map. 1974 01:24:20.640 --> 01:24:22.239 And some of them just like break things in a 1975 01:24:22.239 --> 01:24:23.760 way that you don't see what FPS where. It's like 1976 01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:26.760 you get smoky and it'll just like three unseen enemies 1977 01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:28.359 will catch on fire. So you look at a few 1978 01:24:28.359 --> 01:24:29.840 of those, it's like pooh, pooh, pooh. Like you you 1979 01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:31.800 might not even see an enemy and you kill them all. 1980 01:24:32.279 --> 01:24:34.600 And for anyone who like is like, oh man, these 1981 01:24:34.640 --> 01:24:38.439 combat arenas are pretty simple. It's a pretty basic FPS yes, 1982 01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:40.520 but also it is just one part. 1983 01:24:40.439 --> 01:24:40.800 Of the game. 1984 01:24:40.920 --> 01:24:42.439 Like I asked you, no, this is this is the 1985 01:24:42.520 --> 01:24:44.239 key for me is that that's when I started enjoying 1986 01:24:44.359 --> 01:24:47.279 is like, oh, this is a board game first, maybe, yeah, 1987 01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:51.840 and these combat arenas are a not a mini game, 1988 01:24:52.079 --> 01:24:54.159 but they are an event that happens. 1989 01:24:53.840 --> 01:24:55.159 In the Mario party. 1990 01:24:55.199 --> 01:24:57.079 You've got based up for your rolling the dice and 1991 01:24:57.159 --> 01:24:59.279 going around the board and needed million games every once. 1992 01:24:59.159 --> 01:24:59.600 In a while. 1993 01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:02.239 And when I started viewing it that way, I'm like, well, 1994 01:25:02.279 --> 01:25:03.760 I am and joining the board game a lot, and 1995 01:25:03.840 --> 01:25:05.399 then I get to take some of this fun stuff 1996 01:25:05.439 --> 01:25:07.560 into these arenas, and the fact that it's kind of 1997 01:25:07.640 --> 01:25:10.279 simple is maybe not a feature instead of a bug. 1998 01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:13.279 It's like a fun break between like strategizing and like, okay, 1999 01:25:13.319 --> 01:25:14.840 there's like a spring. 2000 01:25:14.399 --> 01:25:16.000 All the stuff that you're getting on the board, which 2001 01:25:16.039 --> 01:25:16.359 is cool. 2002 01:25:16.399 --> 01:25:18.000 Yeah, and the board game part is cool because like 2003 01:25:18.039 --> 01:25:19.640 you'll go down to the planet level the board game 2004 01:25:19.680 --> 01:25:21.399 part and there will be like you know, three to 2005 01:25:21.560 --> 01:25:24.479 five things where it's like, okay, here's some money, here's 2006 01:25:25.119 --> 01:25:26.560 here's an ace that I want to get, here's a 2007 01:25:26.640 --> 01:25:28.399 mod for my guns. You want to get it all, 2008 01:25:28.479 --> 01:25:29.840 but you don't have to. You can go right to 2009 01:25:29.920 --> 01:25:30.600 the thing and being. 2010 01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:33.399 Back up, but be back out immediately if you wanted 2011 01:25:33.399 --> 01:25:35.600 to yes one on the board. 2012 01:25:35.680 --> 01:25:38.039 Yeah, yeah, you don't have to pick anything up, but 2013 01:25:38.239 --> 01:25:40.560 you want to get everything to help you run and so, 2014 01:25:40.920 --> 01:25:43.199 but if you take too much time, then they'll start 2015 01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:44.920 worping owt like this guy mc neil and like his 2016 01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:47.520 buddies and stuff. So there's like these higher powered guys 2017 01:25:47.560 --> 01:25:49.119 that will move around the board and be a little 2018 01:25:49.159 --> 01:25:52.000 tougher to kill if you take too much time. So yeah, 2019 01:25:52.119 --> 01:25:53.800 and then there's a day night cycle on the board 2020 01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:55.560 and you'll have certain aces that are like, oh if 2021 01:25:55.560 --> 01:25:57.439 it's nighttime, yeah, this character moves. 2022 01:25:57.279 --> 01:25:59.479 Three extra space or something. Yeah. 2023 01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:01.680 So like there are like I really really like the 2024 01:26:01.720 --> 01:26:03.479 board game element of this and Greb, like you said, 2025 01:26:03.479 --> 01:26:04.359 it's really quick to me. 2026 01:26:04.439 --> 01:26:04.640 Yeah. 2027 01:26:04.640 --> 01:26:06.279 The accent at that point is just like, okay, this 2028 01:26:06.399 --> 01:26:08.119 is like the fun, like you know, shoot. 2029 01:26:07.840 --> 01:26:09.840 A part of this, you know, right, It's like cool 2030 01:26:09.880 --> 01:26:11.800 that I get to actually shoot stuff with this board 2031 01:26:11.840 --> 01:26:13.960 game character. Now, it's like going with board games would 2032 01:26:13.960 --> 01:26:16.039 be better if they had a shooting segment command conquer 2033 01:26:16.079 --> 01:26:20.479 Renegade in it. No, it's on PC, so we can 2034 01:26:20.560 --> 01:26:22.479 mod it in for you, Mike geez ikin'd of like mods. 2035 01:26:22.720 --> 01:26:24.520 That's right, you're anti mod This. 2036 01:26:24.640 --> 01:26:28.000 Game also avoids this design trope that many games do. 2037 01:26:28.600 --> 01:26:33.279 I think in a lesser game, these characters have these. 2038 01:26:33.720 --> 01:26:35.800 I think every character in their own way is overpowered. 2039 01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:38.239 And like you said, these princes, they're called that. These 2040 01:26:38.279 --> 01:26:40.600 three characters that work down, they're basically the narratively, they're 2041 01:26:40.640 --> 01:26:42.600 hunting you across the galaxy. You're trying to escape them. 2042 01:26:43.960 --> 01:26:47.119 They beam down and Judge is a really powerful character. 2043 01:26:47.279 --> 01:26:50.159 He's which also the like the creativity in the weapons 2044 01:26:50.159 --> 01:26:52.199 and the art direction you get. You have to get 2045 01:26:52.239 --> 01:26:54.800 three critical hits with his rifle and then you get 2046 01:26:55.079 --> 01:26:57.199 the fourth hit is always an insta kill, no matter 2047 01:26:57.239 --> 01:26:59.119 where you hit them in their body, and to show 2048 01:26:59.199 --> 01:27:05.560 it the laser or the yeah, lasers, the sites, it's 2049 01:27:05.880 --> 01:27:09.039 each critical hit is building one part of a gallows 2050 01:27:09.359 --> 01:27:11.279 to like the noose, and then once you get it, 2051 01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:13.239 it goes to the front and it's a skull with 2052 01:27:13.640 --> 01:27:16.600 process yeah. And I was thinking, I was like, there's 2053 01:27:16.640 --> 01:27:18.960 no way they're gonna let me get that instant kill 2054 01:27:19.039 --> 01:27:21.640 on the boss, and sure enough he warped down. I 2055 01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:23.119 shot him once and he was dead. 2056 01:27:23.359 --> 01:27:25.239 So that's what you want from a Rogue Light, right. 2057 01:27:25.279 --> 01:27:27.119 You want to feel overpowered occasionally. 2058 01:27:27.359 --> 01:27:29.560 I think many games would be like, no, we want 2059 01:27:29.600 --> 01:27:31.760 the boss to be difficult artificially, so we're not gonna 2060 01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:33.760 let these powers work on them. It's like, no, if 2061 01:27:33.840 --> 01:27:36.039 if the boss is the last one and you have 2062 01:27:36.239 --> 01:27:39.680 the bow and arrow and it's a character, it's narratively 2063 01:27:39.720 --> 01:27:41.359 it's one of the later characters, and if there's a 2064 01:27:41.479 --> 01:27:44.319 twenty five percent chance to subvert them to your team 2065 01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:47.199 one and four is crazy when you're shooting that often. 2066 01:27:47.319 --> 01:27:49.359 So if you shoot the boss often enough, the boss 2067 01:27:49.399 --> 01:27:51.199 is going to join your team and kill all of 2068 01:27:51.279 --> 01:27:51.880 his minions. 2069 01:27:52.079 --> 01:27:52.279 Yeah. 2070 01:27:52.399 --> 01:27:56.640 So I actually I don't think the game truly truly 2071 01:27:57.159 --> 01:28:00.600 struck me as being excellent until the new game. Plus, 2072 01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:02.760 there are two other ways you could play it. There 2073 01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:06.039 is iron Man Mode, which is you go back to 2074 01:28:06.159 --> 01:28:10.640 the beginning of the game, and also it's shuffling the character, 2075 01:28:11.039 --> 01:28:13.840 so that's what's fun. It's like you get the characters 2076 01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:16.319 in a random order, which is very fun. Because team 2077 01:28:16.359 --> 01:28:19.439 comp I actually got like bad roles on this play through. 2078 01:28:19.479 --> 01:28:24.000 I got Spike who by himself. He him and Kaboom, 2079 01:28:24.079 --> 01:28:25.680 the Dynamite character were too. I was like, they feel 2080 01:28:25.880 --> 01:28:29.039 kind of not they don't. However, I'm modern Kaboom in 2081 01:28:29.079 --> 01:28:30.960 a way where basically I would it would be one 2082 01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:32.680 of those fort maps and I would just lob a 2083 01:28:32.760 --> 01:28:34.920 bunch of dynamite and they were splitting into so many 2084 01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:37.319 more that they were killing one or two people every time. 2085 01:28:37.680 --> 01:28:41.720 He's also great for Yellow Belli's just thrown behind him. 2086 01:28:41.800 --> 01:28:42.279 Oh sure. 2087 01:28:43.039 --> 01:28:45.479 I got Spike, who's like this stealth character who can 2088 01:28:45.560 --> 01:28:47.119 be really good and you get the right mods. 2089 01:28:47.199 --> 01:28:49.880 But there's a bunch of defenses because his stunt is 2090 01:28:49.920 --> 01:28:51.520 you can just subvert turds and stuff like that. 2091 01:28:52.720 --> 01:28:56.560 So New game plus then Iron Man with shuffle characters. 2092 01:28:56.600 --> 01:29:01.119 I also did the Super iron Man, which is if 2093 01:29:01.439 --> 01:29:04.199 in the base game, if your characters are injured, which 2094 01:29:04.239 --> 01:29:06.560 means they basically are dead until you get a tonic 2095 01:29:06.680 --> 01:29:10.359 to revive them, or each time you warp between sectors 2096 01:29:10.399 --> 01:29:11.680 they get revived. 2097 01:29:12.279 --> 01:29:14.079 In Super iron Man they do not. 2098 01:29:14.279 --> 01:29:16.279 You need tonics to revive them, so you can warp 2099 01:29:16.319 --> 01:29:17.840 to a new sector and it does not revive them. 2100 01:29:17.920 --> 01:29:20.760 Oh wow, So the game really got good, and the 2101 01:29:20.840 --> 01:29:24.000 board game stuff got much more interesting when I was 2102 01:29:24.079 --> 01:29:26.199 playing on a harder difficulty, And these are separate from 2103 01:29:26.199 --> 01:29:28.279 the difficulties, so you can keep playing on normal difficulty 2104 01:29:28.319 --> 01:29:31.760 but have these modifiers, so there's a lot of room 2105 01:29:31.840 --> 01:29:35.439 to tweak things. I'm playing on hard Super Iron Man, 2106 01:29:35.920 --> 01:29:41.199 and now I'm like, I'm a beans are more important 2107 01:29:41.199 --> 01:29:44.039 because they're stopping certain characters from that's a that's out 2108 01:29:44.079 --> 01:29:50.560 of context. It's a weird thing that, Yeah, but I 2109 01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:54.119 can't I really cannot afford with only three characters in 2110 01:29:54.159 --> 01:29:56.000 this play through for anybody to get injured, because I'm 2111 01:29:56.119 --> 01:29:57.840 now it's going to make me need to go get 2112 01:29:57.880 --> 01:30:00.880 a tonic instead of an ace that could really, you know, 2113 01:30:01.159 --> 01:30:03.359 bump up their stats or give them a whole new ability. 2114 01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:06.279 But also it's way more terrifying when a prince comes, 2115 01:30:07.159 --> 01:30:09.760 you know. I'm like, I'm more in the base game. 2116 01:30:09.800 --> 01:30:12.119 I was cleaning out the maps, and to be clear, 2117 01:30:12.199 --> 01:30:15.520 once you're there long enough the actual main enemy comes down, 2118 01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:17.159 you can't kill him if he catches you on the board. 2119 01:30:17.199 --> 01:30:18.840 You're oh, I never got to that one. 2120 01:30:18.960 --> 01:30:21.640 Yeah, it got to the point where I was farming 2121 01:30:21.760 --> 01:30:23.560 the princes for infamy, so I was waiting there. I 2122 01:30:23.640 --> 01:30:25.319 was like, Okay, this is getting I think the game 2123 01:30:25.359 --> 01:30:27.239 can get a bit easy later in the first play through, 2124 01:30:27.319 --> 01:30:30.439 but the difficulty is such now that I'm actually it's 2125 01:30:30.479 --> 01:30:33.199 a much more of a risk reward weighing, and I'm like, 2126 01:30:33.319 --> 01:30:35.880 I could leave the map now, even though there's a 2127 01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:38.079 tonic up there which could come in handy later if 2128 01:30:38.479 --> 01:30:41.760 let's say Preach, She's my only character that I could 2129 01:30:41.800 --> 01:30:43.199 take a loan on missions. 2130 01:30:43.520 --> 01:30:46.039 I have like Spike and Kaboom, and I have raw Hide, 2131 01:30:46.039 --> 01:30:48.279 and all of them are better as like back up characters. 2132 01:30:49.119 --> 01:30:50.000 Maybe not raw Hide, but. 2133 01:30:51.520 --> 01:30:54.640 It gets more difficult and there's more the stakes are higher, 2134 01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:57.159 and it makes the decision making like that more fraught. 2135 01:30:58.800 --> 01:31:01.119 I'm really really enjoying the new game. 2136 01:31:01.159 --> 01:31:05.880 Plus, and also it's I really really like just the 2137 01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:09.520 pace of this game, like those those The firefights are quick, 2138 01:31:09.960 --> 01:31:11.239 but I think if there were too long it would 2139 01:31:11.239 --> 01:31:11.840 get cloying. 2140 01:31:12.199 --> 01:31:14.359 It is a tremendous theme deck game because it's just 2141 01:31:14.439 --> 01:31:16.479 like I'm playing so easy to just you know, play 2142 01:31:16.479 --> 01:31:18.920 a couple or like, you know, I've played entire flights, 2143 01:31:18.960 --> 01:31:21.239 you know, playing this game or pick it up for 2144 01:31:21.279 --> 01:31:23.880 fifteen minutes and then get a full session and it's. 2145 01:31:23.760 --> 01:31:26.039 Yeah, oh man, it's so fucking good. Yeah, I like 2146 01:31:26.119 --> 01:31:27.319 the game a lot. Yep. 2147 01:31:29.319 --> 01:31:31.600 Anyway, what uh what else are you, Mike? 2148 01:31:31.640 --> 01:31:34.039 What have you been playing? Well? 2149 01:31:34.279 --> 01:31:36.680 A sides from Alone in the Dark for the Wii, 2150 01:31:36.760 --> 01:31:40.680 which I wouldn't really playing anyone because my friends are jerks. 2151 01:31:41.840 --> 01:31:44.399 That's not that sucks man, man, why would they? But 2152 01:31:44.479 --> 01:31:45.560 there's a good games out there. 2153 01:31:45.920 --> 01:31:48.960 Yeah, I know, it's strange. I've been playing through a 2154 01:31:49.079 --> 01:31:52.880 lot of the Frum software library. After beating Shadow of 2155 01:31:52.920 --> 01:31:55.479 the r Tree, having any film with that, and realizing 2156 01:31:55.600 --> 01:31:58.760 that somehow I never played the Dark Souls games, decided 2157 01:31:58.960 --> 01:31:59.840 should finally go and do. 2158 01:32:00.319 --> 01:32:03.399 I'm still kind of hungry for more of that formula. 2159 01:32:03.960 --> 01:32:06.199 Played through all Dark Souls one and really really liked it, 2160 01:32:06.319 --> 01:32:08.680 totally got the hype, and you know, Dark Souls two 2161 01:32:09.359 --> 01:32:12.479 has kind of a weird reputation. You have some people 2162 01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:14.479 really defend the game, but a lot of people are like, no, 2163 01:32:14.640 --> 01:32:17.560 it's definitely the Black Sheep. And I'm like forty hours 2164 01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:20.079 into it now, I'm playing through the DLC content before 2165 01:32:20.119 --> 01:32:21.880 I do the final Boss. I've been playing a lot 2166 01:32:21.960 --> 01:32:25.840 of it, and I both like it and also completely 2167 01:32:26.039 --> 01:32:28.319 understand that reputation. 2168 01:32:28.680 --> 01:32:33.359 It does just feel a little weird and a little off. 2169 01:32:33.359 --> 01:32:36.239 Compared to Dark Souls one or even an Elder Ring, 2170 01:32:36.760 --> 01:32:39.880 And some of it is just kind of Some of 2171 01:32:39.920 --> 01:32:42.399 it's the way the game's designed, Like there's a lot 2172 01:32:42.520 --> 01:32:46.880 of areas where the soul's combat is really designed for 2173 01:32:46.960 --> 01:32:49.159 one on one encounters, and sometimes they'll switch that up 2174 01:32:49.159 --> 01:32:51.359 and you'll fight two people, or maybe you'll fight four 2175 01:32:51.560 --> 01:32:54.119 weaker people and you have to do one big screen whatever. 2176 01:32:54.359 --> 01:32:56.159 There's like a lot of vistanses here where it's like, 2177 01:32:56.199 --> 01:32:59.199 here's three or four kind of strong people, good luck 2178 01:32:59.279 --> 01:33:02.359 with that, and it's kind of just miserable trying to 2179 01:33:02.439 --> 01:33:04.840 kind of basically run over there, run over the room 2180 01:33:04.920 --> 01:33:06.560 to kind of hope you sort of luck into it. 2181 01:33:06.680 --> 01:33:11.000 Eventually you're actually kind of figure it out. Hit boxes 2182 01:33:11.039 --> 01:33:11.960 are also weird. 2183 01:33:12.000 --> 01:33:14.760 I had one instance where here's a big troll boss 2184 01:33:14.920 --> 01:33:17.319 or something, and he has this big grab move and 2185 01:33:17.319 --> 01:33:19.600 it's very telegraphs like I don't want to grab you, 2186 01:33:19.920 --> 01:33:24.439 so you backroll and grabs me and I backroll and 2187 01:33:24.520 --> 01:33:27.439 he misses, and then his hand is here and my 2188 01:33:27.880 --> 01:33:32.000 character model just warps to his hands. It's like, nope, 2189 01:33:32.039 --> 01:33:34.000 you belong here. Then he bites my head off. Right, 2190 01:33:34.239 --> 01:33:36.600 I'm like, oh, that's that's a lot of fun. Uh, 2191 01:33:37.079 --> 01:33:40.119 you know, Having said that, it's still ultimately one of 2192 01:33:40.239 --> 01:33:43.760 those made by them. It's got some really you know, 2193 01:33:43.880 --> 01:33:47.159 interesting looking areas. The Hobworld is really nice, Mas you are. 2194 01:33:47.199 --> 01:33:49.560 It's got this very pretty pleasant song that I think 2195 01:33:49.720 --> 01:33:51.800 is a favorite among the fans. There's still a lot 2196 01:33:51.840 --> 01:33:55.000 of good boss fights and everything like that, but it's 2197 01:33:55.199 --> 01:33:57.760 definitely not as good as Dark Souls one. I'm not 2198 01:33:57.800 --> 01:34:00.680 gonna be some Dark Souls to hater some people are, 2199 01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:02.720 but I get it. How far I think you are 2200 01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:05.520 in it, I guess I like. So I'm like, I 2201 01:34:05.600 --> 01:34:08.760 think I'm pretty close. So there's three DLCs they're released yet. 2202 01:34:08.760 --> 01:34:11.359 They released three DLCs for this one, and I finished 2203 01:34:11.439 --> 01:34:12.960 one of them and I'm like a couple hours in 2204 01:34:13.000 --> 01:34:17.399 the other one. Then I'm like, right before the final buzz, 2205 01:34:17.479 --> 01:34:19.319 that's what the that's what people are telling me to do, Like, 2206 01:34:19.680 --> 01:34:23.520 because the DLC is usually the hardest content, so it's like, 2207 01:34:23.640 --> 01:34:25.199 do that right before beating the game. 2208 01:34:25.680 --> 01:34:30.640 Generally. Two also has Scholar of the First Sin, which 2209 01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:32.640 so I'm playing that version. 2210 01:34:32.960 --> 01:34:35.520 Oh okay, yeah, I was gonna say, honestly, I don't 2211 01:34:35.560 --> 01:34:38.199 even anytime anybody tells me they haven't played that game, 2212 01:34:38.239 --> 01:34:41.079 I'm like, don't bother going back to the like actual og, 2213 01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:44.119 Scholar of the First Sin is much more balanced and 2214 01:34:44.399 --> 01:34:45.319 well paced. 2215 01:34:45.920 --> 01:34:47.640 Right and I've been I've been playing these on stream, 2216 01:34:47.720 --> 01:34:50.239 so like, and you know, if you play Soul's games, 2217 01:34:50.239 --> 01:34:52.560 you're gonna attract a lot of the Soul siccos, which 2218 01:34:52.600 --> 01:34:54.800 is mostly a nice thing because you can ask them 2219 01:34:54.840 --> 01:34:57.159 a lot of questions. Yeah, sometimes you have to tell 2220 01:34:57.199 --> 01:35:00.479 them to not offer it up in voluntarily. It is 2221 01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:02.880 nice to have them there, especially because you know Dark 2222 01:35:02.920 --> 01:35:04.920 Souls two like getting to the DLCs, and that was 2223 01:35:04.920 --> 01:35:07.039 even a problem Dark Souls one, you would never know 2224 01:35:07.199 --> 01:35:08.399 how to access the DLC. 2225 01:35:08.479 --> 01:35:11.960 It's actually in that game. It's it's it's like, go 2226 01:35:12.239 --> 01:35:12.520 to this. 2227 01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:15.800 Area, fight this boss, roll over here, fight this thing, 2228 01:35:15.920 --> 01:35:18.479 talk to this lady two times, go to completely separate. 2229 01:35:18.520 --> 01:35:20.560 Ay, you already were before, Kill that goll and pick 2230 01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:22.560 up that item. Go back. It's insane. 2231 01:35:23.399 --> 01:35:25.039 Here it's a little better, but it's still like you 2232 01:35:25.079 --> 01:35:26.520 have to get a ring from this place and then 2233 01:35:26.600 --> 01:35:27.640 open the door over here. 2234 01:35:27.800 --> 01:35:29.399 Like how would you know that? You wouldn't. 2235 01:35:29.640 --> 01:35:31.520 I was watching like your first dream with that and 2236 01:35:31.640 --> 01:35:34.439 you accidentally joined a cult that made the game way 2237 01:35:34.520 --> 01:35:35.399 harder right away. 2238 01:35:36.039 --> 01:35:38.600 I immediately and the hometown there is a you know, 2239 01:35:38.680 --> 01:35:41.880 there's covenants in the first game, and I barely understood 2240 01:35:41.920 --> 01:35:42.399 what they did. 2241 01:35:42.520 --> 01:35:45.720 I think it was mostly something about spells. 2242 01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:48.600 I don't even know, but I was like, I found 2243 01:35:48.640 --> 01:35:50.920 a stone statue like join our Covenant blah blah blah, 2244 01:35:50.960 --> 01:35:52.399 and my eyes kind of glazed over them. 2245 01:35:52.479 --> 01:35:52.680 Yeah. 2246 01:35:52.720 --> 01:35:55.720 Sure, apparently I activated hard mode and for a while 2247 01:35:55.720 --> 01:35:57.079 I was like, man, Dark Soils two is. 2248 01:35:57.119 --> 01:35:58.800 A lot harder than Dark So. 2249 01:36:00.800 --> 01:36:02.800 It's a call it that whenever giants go to grab you, 2250 01:36:02.880 --> 01:36:07.079 it warps you to their fists. And then, have you 2251 01:36:07.119 --> 01:36:08.600 played blood Borne Demon Souls? 2252 01:36:09.319 --> 01:36:12.119 I did play Bloodborne, okay, not Souls. 2253 01:36:12.159 --> 01:36:14.760 Though not I played, I've just like started a couple 2254 01:36:14.760 --> 01:36:16.159 of times that I got too far, same fitting the 2255 01:36:16.199 --> 01:36:19.640 Sacro played. It never got too far, So I planned 2256 01:36:19.680 --> 01:36:22.520 to go back to Pacoro and Demon Souls. I want 2257 01:36:22.560 --> 01:36:24.640 to play blood Board again, but but I'm holding I'm 2258 01:36:24.680 --> 01:36:26.319 holding out for some kind of remiss. 2259 01:36:27.520 --> 01:36:32.880 Stop don't know. Some guys do not hold play blood Borne. 2260 01:36:33.279 --> 01:36:37.159 No, because I did that with I replayed Metroid Prime 2261 01:36:37.199 --> 01:36:40.399 and I replayed Papermark, and a certain. 2262 01:36:40.239 --> 01:36:42.800 Level of certainty that they are not working on a 2263 01:36:42.840 --> 01:36:46.039 blood Board remaster. Yeah, I play it, Okay, I'm going 2264 01:36:46.079 --> 01:36:47.840 to wait. I okay. 2265 01:36:47.920 --> 01:36:49.760 Blood Board is one of my top five games of 2266 01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:52.199 all time. I'm telling you it's good enough where you 2267 01:36:52.279 --> 01:36:55.880 could play it, and then if this imaginary PC whatever 2268 01:36:55.960 --> 01:36:58.520 port comes true, you will want to replay it and 2269 01:36:58.720 --> 01:36:59.880 do a new weapon. 2270 01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:00.760 Already framed character. 2271 01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:07.520 Right, Well, keep buying a fifteens five and yeah that's 2272 01:37:07.520 --> 01:37:10.399 not happened. We can just steal Andy Cortez's oh yeah, 2273 01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:12.800 big terms one of him. 2274 01:37:14.199 --> 01:37:19.239 Bloodborne is awesome. I've never played it. 2275 01:37:19.560 --> 01:37:21.399 I don't think I've ever come around in a game 2276 01:37:21.479 --> 01:37:23.600 so hard. Maybe Death Stranding is the only other exception. 2277 01:37:24.039 --> 01:37:26.079 I did not love Sekiro the first time I played it. 2278 01:37:27.279 --> 01:37:29.880 I got like five hours in and I remember like 2279 01:37:30.039 --> 01:37:32.439 it just would not click with me. And then I 2280 01:37:32.640 --> 01:37:34.439 went and I replayed Bloodborne. It's like I got to 2281 01:37:34.439 --> 01:37:36.520 give Secure another chance. Jake Decker talks about all these 2282 01:37:36.560 --> 01:37:38.960 bosses later in the game that sound awesome, and I 2283 01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:42.239 went back and for whatever reason, like the I like 2284 01:37:42.439 --> 01:37:44.479 was more open minded about what it wanted me to do. 2285 01:37:45.520 --> 01:37:48.359 It's all about countering, obviously, and like just like constantly 2286 01:37:48.439 --> 01:37:51.560 pushing yourself toward danger and fights. The more I embraced 2287 01:37:51.640 --> 01:37:53.800 like living on that knife's edge, the more like, Okay, 2288 01:37:53.880 --> 01:37:55.039 I kind of get what this game is doing and 2289 01:37:55.119 --> 01:37:57.560 now it's like, God, that game is genius. 2290 01:37:58.159 --> 01:37:59.960 Yeah, Like I got five hours into Secord. 2291 01:38:00.119 --> 01:38:02.239 I was enjoying it, but then fell off, and now 2292 01:38:02.239 --> 01:38:05.159 I'm like really excited to eventually get back there started 2293 01:38:05.199 --> 01:38:06.760 again and really be all about it. 2294 01:38:06.840 --> 01:38:08.760 They have boss fights in that game that are some 2295 01:38:08.920 --> 01:38:13.399 of the I mean, Dan, you know, in terms of 2296 01:38:13.439 --> 01:38:15.760 games that make you like, you know, like that first 2297 01:38:16.079 --> 01:38:20.239 pattern recognition in bosses, I love them, but like, yeah, 2298 01:38:20.359 --> 01:38:23.399 seci Ro is just there's bosses there that I've never 2299 01:38:23.479 --> 01:38:25.800 gotten into this like such a fugue state as when 2300 01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:27.039 I thought some of those bosses like all right, I 2301 01:38:27.079 --> 01:38:29.079 gotta jump this attack, I gotta perry this one. I 2302 01:38:29.159 --> 01:38:31.199 got a dodge and then I gotta perry. By then 2303 01:38:31.279 --> 01:38:33.800 he should be his key should be down, and then 2304 01:38:33.840 --> 01:38:35.119 I I don't know. 2305 01:38:35.319 --> 01:38:38.520 Now I am worried because my builds in all of 2306 01:38:38.560 --> 01:38:42.800 these games is very tanky, sordid shield thing, and that 2307 01:38:42.960 --> 01:38:45.239 worked really well for me in Elder Ring, worked very 2308 01:38:45.319 --> 01:38:47.159 well for me in Dark Souls one Dark Souls too, 2309 01:38:47.199 --> 01:38:50.119 the shield has been kind of Garbo but sort of 2310 01:38:50.199 --> 01:38:52.159 making it work. But yeah, Cecro, it's it's a much 2311 01:38:52.239 --> 01:38:53.600 more about perrying, which I. 2312 01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:58.479 Never do, but it feels so good that you'll get it. 2313 01:38:58.640 --> 01:39:01.760 You're very good at perrying in Resident Evil four remakes, 2314 01:39:01.960 --> 01:39:03.560 Sonna be Fine. 2315 01:39:03.600 --> 01:39:05.359 I flirted with the idea of going back to because 2316 01:39:05.399 --> 01:39:07.239 it was the first frum game or I guess of 2317 01:39:07.520 --> 01:39:12.760 the like souls type from games that I beat Adventures 2318 01:39:12.800 --> 01:39:17.920 of Cookies and Cream. Hell yeah, let's go your first. No, No, 2319 01:39:18.079 --> 01:39:21.000 Bloodborn is the first one I beat. The reason I'm 2320 01:39:21.039 --> 01:39:23.479 scared of Sekiro is I can't do the thing. The 2321 01:39:23.560 --> 01:39:26.119 from games I beat are like as far as the 2322 01:39:26.159 --> 01:39:28.359 soul's type ones are Bloodborn and elden Ring, and both 2323 01:39:28.359 --> 01:39:31.800 of them I just just cheese and farmed and just 2324 01:39:31.960 --> 01:39:34.079 fucking got super super leveled up, and you can't do 2325 01:39:34.159 --> 01:39:37.560 that in seki Row. The other thing is Kayla, my sister, 2326 01:39:37.960 --> 01:39:43.039 who is maybe the best like games player, Like just insane, 2327 01:39:43.079 --> 01:39:44.680 how quickly you should can pick up and perry and 2328 01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:46.960 do all that shit. I sat and I watched her 2329 01:39:47.039 --> 01:39:49.479 for hours, tried to beat the last boss, and she 2330 01:39:49.600 --> 01:39:51.600 was like, it's impossible, I can't do it. Like and 2331 01:39:51.720 --> 01:39:54.239 if she she beat almost all that game on a 2332 01:39:54.319 --> 01:39:59.960 fucking PlayStation portal in a different floor, then yeah, she's ridiculous, 2333 01:40:00.079 --> 01:40:01.600 and she was like, this is way too fucking hard. 2334 01:40:02.039 --> 01:40:05.119 I think you're selling yourself a bit short. Honestly, I 2335 01:40:05.159 --> 01:40:07.479 think Mike Tyson's punch out is, yeah, if you can, 2336 01:40:07.640 --> 01:40:07.840 you can. 2337 01:40:07.880 --> 01:40:09.920 If you could be Tyson, you could beat anything, any 2338 01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:11.840 boss in any from game. 2339 01:40:11.920 --> 01:40:12.640 Yes, that's correct. 2340 01:40:12.680 --> 01:40:14.960 Can I mod Securo for so all the bosses or 2341 01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:18.800 Mike Tyson probably, and I can play as Jake Paul. 2342 01:40:20.760 --> 01:40:23.119 Which is what you need to beat games. I get it. Yeah, 2343 01:40:23.359 --> 01:40:26.800 of course Jake Paul sucks. 2344 01:40:26.840 --> 01:40:30.960 For the record, I do think Securo is one of 2345 01:40:31.000 --> 01:40:34.640 the games where you need to you're gonna but like 2346 01:40:34.720 --> 01:40:37.319 bash your head against some bosses. Like there's certain bosses 2347 01:40:37.399 --> 01:40:39.840 that gave me trouble that Jake was like, oh weird 2348 01:40:39.960 --> 01:40:42.359 that I had no problem. Then Jake's like, oh, that's 2349 01:40:42.359 --> 01:40:43.560 the hardest boss in the game, and then I one 2350 01:40:43.600 --> 01:40:43.960 shot it. 2351 01:40:44.720 --> 01:40:45.079 I don't know. 2352 01:40:45.159 --> 01:40:47.239 I think it's more just about like people's mind wrap 2353 01:40:47.319 --> 01:40:51.319 around it, minds wrap around it differently. Yeah, Kayla, not 2354 01:40:51.359 --> 01:40:52.640 being able to beat it scary. 2355 01:40:52.439 --> 01:40:55.680 But I'm not discounting the possibility. I just ooh boy, 2356 01:40:55.800 --> 01:40:57.399 it's probably the one that scares me the most. 2357 01:40:57.640 --> 01:40:59.640 When you do the the front perry where you step 2358 01:40:59.680 --> 01:41:01.279 on the other a person's weapon. It's one of the 2359 01:41:01.319 --> 01:41:05.520 best feelings in the world, less animation. It's incredible and 2360 01:41:06.119 --> 01:41:07.800 you'll get addicted to that and you'll want to get 2361 01:41:07.800 --> 01:41:10.239 through the whole game because better than carrying a chainsaw 2362 01:41:10.319 --> 01:41:13.520 if your knife and it's neck and neck. But don't 2363 01:41:14.680 --> 01:41:16.880 I'm really excited to start Dark Soul's three because apparently 2364 01:41:16.960 --> 01:41:20.399 that one's like a lot like Darksel's one, but faster paced. 2365 01:41:20.239 --> 01:41:22.279 And it is that sounds kind of nice. I got 2366 01:41:22.399 --> 01:41:24.479 so much shit for giving that game an eight at 2367 01:41:24.520 --> 01:41:25.079 game Spot. 2368 01:41:25.239 --> 01:41:28.600 I stand by it, and then Kevin van Ord, who 2369 01:41:28.600 --> 01:41:32.000 reviewed the previous ones before he left game Spot, He's 2370 01:41:32.039 --> 01:41:33.439 also like, yeah, I would have given it eight. 2371 01:41:33.560 --> 01:41:35.399 So everybody was like freaking out about that as well. 2372 01:41:36.159 --> 01:41:39.159 We all have one of those. I gave uh Devil 2373 01:41:39.199 --> 01:41:41.079 May cryt five to seven, and some people are still 2374 01:41:41.119 --> 01:41:42.079 mad at me. But it's all right. 2375 01:41:42.119 --> 01:41:42.560 I was right. 2376 01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:46.000 Dark Darksels three is the one I'm most likely to reap, 2377 01:41:46.159 --> 01:41:50.039 or I'm always the closest to replaying it is. However, 2378 01:41:50.520 --> 01:41:53.000 I think they definitely kind of were more writing the 2379 01:41:53.079 --> 01:41:54.840 ship after two and playing it safe. 2380 01:41:55.880 --> 01:41:58.239 Sure, yeah, because it's like also more of a direct 2381 01:41:58.319 --> 01:42:00.319 sequel to one. Right, a lot of the same bull 2382 01:42:00.399 --> 01:42:03.119 and characters are kind of showing up her references, at 2383 01:42:03.199 --> 01:42:06.000 least to that pantheon of characters where Stark sols too. 2384 01:42:06.399 --> 01:42:07.439 It's almost like a final. 2385 01:42:07.239 --> 01:42:09.159 Fantasy thing where it's like, yeah, it's Dark Souls too, 2386 01:42:09.239 --> 01:42:11.439 but it's not connected to the previous thing in any 2387 01:42:11.479 --> 01:42:11.880 real way. 2388 01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:13.439 Sor He was Mike, I'm an idiot. 2389 01:42:13.439 --> 01:42:16.079 I spent a solid thirty seconds confused because I thought 2390 01:42:16.079 --> 01:42:20.159 you said I gave Devil May Cry five of seven, 2391 01:42:20.880 --> 01:42:22.359 and I was like, wait, I didn't know he was 2392 01:42:22.399 --> 01:42:25.640 reviewing back in one, and I was like, but his 2393 01:42:25.760 --> 01:42:27.560 scoring system was out of seven. 2394 01:42:28.279 --> 01:42:31.279 Yeah, we're real and usual. Gazy had that seven point scale. 2395 01:42:31.920 --> 01:42:34.279 Matic critic hated us five of seven. 2396 01:42:37.199 --> 01:42:40.800 DNC No. Five. Seven is just my seven favorite, my 2397 01:42:40.880 --> 01:42:43.800 second favorite board. Yeah, uh oh yeah, I get that. 2398 01:42:44.279 --> 01:42:48.680 Even I don't know I even with that because seven 2399 01:42:48.760 --> 01:42:51.399 of nine was a big thing. Oh, you wouldn't know 2400 01:42:51.479 --> 01:42:56.640 seven of nine put the lotion under her shirt and 2401 01:42:56.680 --> 01:43:00.720 that one that's also what is this think about the 2402 01:43:00.960 --> 01:43:04.319 sexy Star Trek characters, Mike, we're fucking space. 2403 01:43:04.439 --> 01:43:07.399 Now get on board seven of nine. 2404 01:43:07.960 --> 01:43:12.319 And then t Apostrophe p O l that with lotion 2405 01:43:13.039 --> 01:43:21.279 Apostrophe wear cat suits. Yeah, David, it's uh David du Coveny, No, No, 2406 01:43:21.399 --> 01:43:23.439 it's it's not David Comany, it's the other one. I 2407 01:43:23.439 --> 01:43:27.720 always conflating with the guy from from What's the Time 2408 01:43:27.840 --> 01:43:28.680 Travel show? 2409 01:43:30.520 --> 01:43:31.760 Got Back, Got Back? 2410 01:43:32.199 --> 01:43:34.720 That's super weird. I always got David Ducoveney and John 2411 01:43:34.760 --> 01:43:38.600 Ritter mixed up. Really Okay, spacially, we were talking about 2412 01:43:38.600 --> 01:43:42.319 the company recently because of that's right, what happened with them? 2413 01:43:43.079 --> 01:43:45.840 They were married, but he was like his character on 2414 01:43:45.920 --> 01:43:48.039 Californication and so they divorced. 2415 01:43:48.520 --> 01:43:50.960 Yeah, biography, I know, seven of nine, I remember that 2416 01:43:51.039 --> 01:43:51.439 was her name. 2417 01:43:52.119 --> 01:43:54.279 Yeah, it's a Quantum Leaf Steve song yet kind of 2418 01:43:54.359 --> 01:43:57.279 incredible and yeah, that's so. 2419 01:43:57.319 --> 01:43:59.760 Happy that you guys ever watched the new Quantum Leap 2420 01:43:59.760 --> 01:44:01.760 would apparently been on for like multiple seasons. 2421 01:44:01.840 --> 01:44:04.800 Now really that's the thing that broke me on reboots 2422 01:44:04.840 --> 01:44:07.800 because it's like, like fifteen years ago, if you told 2423 01:44:07.840 --> 01:44:10.199 me Quantum Leap was back, I was like, well that's important, but. 2424 01:44:10.279 --> 01:44:12.840 Now how the world and no one even talking was like, 2425 01:44:12.880 --> 01:44:14.640 oh miammy device is coming back, and then no one 2426 01:44:14.680 --> 01:44:16.640 talks about to be on the No they like my 2427 01:44:16.760 --> 01:44:19.439 Heami Advice was a hit, but they even stuff like 2428 01:44:19.520 --> 01:44:21.399 the Saved by the Bell, like things that were like 2429 01:44:21.479 --> 01:44:24.960 touchstones of a generation and with the original and no 2430 01:44:25.000 --> 01:44:28.960 one cares full house, Yeah, I think weirdly, Well, for 2431 01:44:29.000 --> 01:44:29.720 a second. 2432 01:44:29.640 --> 01:44:30.279 Well I might have. 2433 01:44:30.399 --> 01:44:31.720 I think it might have throwed off in the end. 2434 01:44:31.760 --> 01:44:33.720 I don't know, but you're right, like every it's at 2435 01:44:33.720 --> 01:44:35.640 a point now where everything gets rebooted. 2436 01:44:35.319 --> 01:44:35.800 So it doesn't matter. 2437 01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:37.800 What could they reboot that would actually have like a 2438 01:44:38.119 --> 01:44:41.199 massive like, oh, this actually matters and we need to 2439 01:44:41.239 --> 01:44:41.720 watch one. 2440 01:44:41.720 --> 01:44:43.560 That seems sacred somehow. 2441 01:44:44.359 --> 01:44:46.479 So far in terms of like rebooting into a new 2442 01:44:46.560 --> 01:44:48.840 movie or show, has been back to the future. 2443 01:44:48.600 --> 01:44:49.960 For like some Well didn't they. 2444 01:44:50.119 --> 01:44:51.960 I think the guys that are responsible that said that, 2445 01:44:52.119 --> 01:44:55.039 they literally will not let it happen until they die, right, 2446 01:44:55.119 --> 01:44:57.279 So like like maybe when that happens, that might be. 2447 01:44:58.800 --> 01:45:01.840 I don't say good, but people will be like, okay, 2448 01:45:01.960 --> 01:45:02.800 we'll take notice. 2449 01:45:02.880 --> 01:45:05.640 Once the Point Break remake happened, I'm like, who cares? 2450 01:45:06.359 --> 01:45:08.960 Who cares? Yes, And I was just like, oh, I 2451 01:45:09.560 --> 01:45:11.880 won't even remember this happened a couple of years from now, 2452 01:45:12.039 --> 01:45:14.119 So like I'm not even gonna get mad about it. 2453 01:45:14.239 --> 01:45:14.279 No. 2454 01:45:14.439 --> 01:45:18.039 I remember when Liken the Spike TV era and Ren. 2455 01:45:18.039 --> 01:45:20.800 And Stimpy came back, they said, fucking they fuck Now, 2456 01:45:21.000 --> 01:45:24.560 It's like, what that's. 2457 01:45:23.199 --> 01:45:26.520 So freaking weird. That was on that new TV buckets 2458 01:45:26.560 --> 01:45:32.199 that in Stripper re Spike TV, which was the channel 2459 01:45:32.319 --> 01:45:34.880 that played the Star Check the next Generation reruns to 2460 01:45:34.920 --> 01:45:35.520 bring it all back. 2461 01:45:35.600 --> 01:45:37.760 So I was watching for a couple of season TV 2462 01:45:38.319 --> 01:45:40.319 and RAW. So yeah, I was watching a lot of 2463 01:45:40.399 --> 01:45:47.640 Spike TV. Yeah good, grew up. You've been playing Star 2464 01:45:47.680 --> 01:45:48.359 Wars Outlaws. 2465 01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:50.840 Yeah yeah, I kind of got back into it after 2466 01:45:50.920 --> 01:45:54.680 some traveling, and I am glad that I'm able to 2467 01:45:54.720 --> 01:45:56.720 take it slow. I don't envy anyone that had to 2468 01:45:56.760 --> 01:45:59.680 review this game in a handful of days, because if 2469 01:45:59.720 --> 01:46:03.359 you yes, like I acknowledge, there's a lot of mediocre elements, 2470 01:46:03.479 --> 01:46:05.039 especially at the beginning of the game. I think it 2471 01:46:05.199 --> 01:46:08.399 makes a pretty poor first impression. It is a stealth 2472 01:46:08.479 --> 01:46:12.079 game in many ways, and it's not like the best stealth. 2473 01:46:12.119 --> 01:46:14.600 It's not bad, it's fine. You can have fun with them, 2474 01:46:14.680 --> 01:46:16.600 especially if you get into the Knick's character. Who's your 2475 01:46:16.640 --> 01:46:19.239 little sidekick space dog that you could send out to 2476 01:46:19.279 --> 01:46:22.119 basically mess with anything and everything. It can go dance 2477 01:46:22.159 --> 01:46:23.800 in front of a camera and then you can walk 2478 01:46:23.840 --> 01:46:26.640 past the camera and it's fine. It can attack every enemy, 2479 01:46:26.680 --> 01:46:29.159 it can distract every enemy. You can upgrade it so 2480 01:46:29.239 --> 01:46:31.159 eventually it can distract like three enemies at a time. 2481 01:46:31.439 --> 01:46:34.720 You can get very powerful. But that takes time for 2482 01:46:34.840 --> 01:46:38.159 me though, as someone who's like in a weird place 2483 01:46:38.239 --> 01:46:40.119 with Star Wars or there's some stuff I really love 2484 01:46:40.199 --> 01:46:42.800 and some stuff I can find very very off putting 2485 01:46:43.239 --> 01:46:44.560 with some of these shows, and just in terms of 2486 01:46:44.600 --> 01:46:46.279 the quality, not in terms of the like, oh it 2487 01:46:46.279 --> 01:46:47.439 has representation or something. 2488 01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:47.560 I know. 2489 01:46:47.640 --> 01:46:49.399 There's a lot of weird to talk out there about 2490 01:46:49.399 --> 01:46:54.760 that saying that Star Wars is too Yeah, I wear 2491 01:46:55.119 --> 01:46:57.520 I was wearing the Star Wars shirt on January sixth. Absolutely, 2492 01:46:58.199 --> 01:47:02.319 I can mostly just enjoying hanging out in this space 2493 01:47:02.439 --> 01:47:05.840 because it feels very Star Wars. And that doesn't just 2494 01:47:05.960 --> 01:47:08.720 mean you go to tattooing, which you definitely do in 2495 01:47:08.800 --> 01:47:10.880 this game. I've actually not been there yet. They have 2496 01:47:11.039 --> 01:47:13.439 some new planets that just feel like, oh my god. 2497 01:47:13.479 --> 01:47:16.600 They have some designers that really get it, and every 2498 01:47:16.920 --> 01:47:20.680 five steps is another picturesque Star Wars moment where there 2499 01:47:20.800 --> 01:47:23.880 is someone cooking some awesome space food and there's people 2500 01:47:23.920 --> 01:47:27.319 hanging around out there or they're gambling, and none of it, 2501 01:47:27.680 --> 01:47:29.720 most of it, the vast majority of it, you can't 2502 01:47:29.760 --> 01:47:32.760 interact with. So it is very much like this diorama. 2503 01:47:33.560 --> 01:47:37.399 But I'm like accepting that and just enjoying the ambiance 2504 01:47:37.479 --> 01:47:40.119 of it. And because I'm not rushing to find the 2505 01:47:40.159 --> 01:47:42.399 next fun thing that i can do in this world necessarily, 2506 01:47:42.439 --> 01:47:44.239 I'm just sort of moving through it at my own pace. 2507 01:47:44.560 --> 01:47:45.960 I'm finding that very effective. 2508 01:47:46.840 --> 01:47:48.960 And then when I did the demo, like when the 2509 01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:50.960 planet I was on was this kind of like Savannah 2510 01:47:51.039 --> 01:47:53.359 themes Star Wars, I thought that it was like a 2511 01:47:53.600 --> 01:47:55.600 very interesting biome change. 2512 01:47:55.479 --> 01:47:57.560 Right, So that's because that's a wind biome, and they're 2513 01:47:57.600 --> 01:47:59.920 like there's people who farm wind and stuff for inner 2514 01:48:00.079 --> 01:48:02.319 g and like it's like they know what they're doing. 2515 01:48:02.399 --> 01:48:04.760 They like know what makes like a Star Wars biome work. 2516 01:48:05.079 --> 01:48:06.920 And then I went to a snow planet that was 2517 01:48:07.039 --> 01:48:09.760 instead of like a hath it is actually a very 2518 01:48:09.880 --> 01:48:12.279 populated snow planet. So it's like a lot of structures 2519 01:48:12.279 --> 01:48:14.479 built out of stone and there's a lot of fire pits, 2520 01:48:14.520 --> 01:48:16.399 everywhere and everyone's trying to stay warm, and you go 2521 01:48:16.479 --> 01:48:19.159 inside and there's some opulence, but mostly that's just where 2522 01:48:19.199 --> 01:48:20.079 the crime guilds are. 2523 01:48:20.319 --> 01:48:22.119 And then there's just a lot of people just scraping by. 2524 01:48:22.720 --> 01:48:24.199 And I love that ship. So they go there and 2525 01:48:24.279 --> 01:48:27.319 Rise of Skywalker. Oh really, is that the right? 2526 01:48:28.960 --> 01:48:32.840 Carrie Russell's character at that movie out of his mind? 2527 01:48:33.039 --> 01:48:35.119 But that is that planet is my favorite part of 2528 01:48:35.159 --> 01:48:35.520 that movie. 2529 01:48:35.840 --> 01:48:36.680 Yeah, it's cool. 2530 01:48:36.800 --> 01:48:40.800 It's it's like it's like monk architecture, like yeah, Asian 2531 01:48:40.880 --> 01:48:45.680 monk but sorry, they specifically pulled from Tibetan architecture and 2532 01:48:45.720 --> 01:48:49.000 then put it in like a very blizzardy planet. 2533 01:48:49.279 --> 01:48:51.760 It's super cool for sure, and it works this place 2534 01:48:52.199 --> 01:48:52.680 charted too. 2535 01:48:53.560 --> 01:48:56.479 Yeah, yeah, this type of Tibet like this is this 2536 01:48:56.680 --> 01:48:58.359 type of like you know Star Wars and that you 2537 01:48:58.520 --> 01:49:02.239 like to explore. Is did you like like Jedi Survivor 2538 01:49:02.279 --> 01:49:03.079 in that same type of way? 2539 01:49:03.520 --> 01:49:03.920 I do? 2540 01:49:04.119 --> 01:49:06.680 And I've not played through all of the Survivor. 2541 01:49:06.720 --> 01:49:08.520 I kind of fell off because Zelda came out at 2542 01:49:08.520 --> 01:49:10.159 the same time, and I've then I got so busy. 2543 01:49:10.199 --> 01:49:12.319 I haven't gone back, but I love Fallen Order and 2544 01:49:12.359 --> 01:49:13.920 I keep meaning to go back to the Survivor, and 2545 01:49:13.960 --> 01:49:16.920 now that Survivor is on old Gin consoles, I'm going 2546 01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:19.279 to see if it works better on the ally and 2547 01:49:19.319 --> 01:49:22.640 actually play it on there. Oh yeah, so but yes, 2548 01:49:22.760 --> 01:49:24.920 I do like that stuff, and like when I watched 2549 01:49:24.960 --> 01:49:29.039 the shows like Mandalorian. I never loved Mandalorian, but the 2550 01:49:29.119 --> 01:49:32.760 best parts of it were like, oh, some concept artists 2551 01:49:33.079 --> 01:49:36.920 like cooked with this Pacific Northwest planet where they're all 2552 01:49:36.960 --> 01:49:39.439 fishermen and they're wearing like the rubber overalls and stuff, 2553 01:49:39.479 --> 01:49:41.680 and I'm like, I like just thinking about what it's 2554 01:49:41.760 --> 01:49:44.039 like to live in these places, and so yeah, I 2555 01:49:44.479 --> 01:49:46.159 like that in most of my Star Wars games, even 2556 01:49:46.279 --> 01:49:48.439 like going back to Shadows of the Empire, where it's like, oh, 2557 01:49:48.520 --> 01:49:52.000 this fun prison planet or whatever, like how does this work? 2558 01:49:52.319 --> 01:49:55.760 And now they're like the sewers on this the whole time. Yeah, 2559 01:49:55.920 --> 01:49:57.800 sewer level. Yes, of course there was. 2560 01:49:57.760 --> 01:49:59.239 When I was at that preview event, I did an 2561 01:49:59.319 --> 01:50:00.960 interview with some people worked on the game, and I 2562 01:50:01.039 --> 01:50:03.319 tried to ask them if they were inspired by Shows 2563 01:50:03.319 --> 01:50:06.640 of the Empire and they looked at me and I 2564 01:50:06.760 --> 01:50:10.159 never felt so old in my life. I looked at Oh, 2565 01:50:11.520 --> 01:50:13.560 it's like, oh, oh no, you people are making a 2566 01:50:13.600 --> 01:50:16.640 Star Wars game, you are like, how dare you bring 2567 01:50:16.760 --> 01:50:17.800 up shows the Empire. 2568 01:50:18.600 --> 01:50:20.319 Yeah, it's it's I don't know if it was a 2569 01:50:20.359 --> 01:50:23.359 comic con or like DVD commentary. They talked about their 2570 01:50:24.560 --> 01:50:26.640 maybe this is more well known than I'm bringing it 2571 01:50:26.720 --> 01:50:28.319 up as I like, it's a cool tidbit. But they've 2572 01:50:28.319 --> 01:50:31.279 talked when they're designing a new planet, they they they're 2573 01:50:31.319 --> 01:50:35.560 mantra is seventy percent familiar, thirty percent new. So they'll 2574 01:50:35.560 --> 01:50:38.520 take the Pacific Northwest or the Serengetti and then add 2575 01:50:39.159 --> 01:50:43.359 the wind farms or the like the taxi driver seventies 2576 01:50:43.439 --> 01:50:45.319 neon vibes in the city and stuff like that, which 2577 01:50:45.399 --> 01:50:47.520 is like how they grab you with something you know 2578 01:50:47.680 --> 01:50:51.159 or at least have seen online or in textbooks and 2579 01:50:51.319 --> 01:50:53.159 then bring in the weird touch. 2580 01:50:53.680 --> 01:50:53.880 Yeah. 2581 01:50:53.920 --> 01:50:55.520 Yeah, they always they always try to ground a lot 2582 01:50:55.520 --> 01:50:57.439 of stuff with familiarity. That was like thinking with like 2583 01:50:57.520 --> 01:50:59.640 the John Williams music too, It's like, oh, so it's 2584 01:50:59.680 --> 01:51:02.640 word's up, but let's use a classical like very familiar score. 2585 01:51:02.760 --> 01:51:05.199 And yeah, that's always been one of the appeals to 2586 01:51:05.199 --> 01:51:07.760 Star Wars. But I played the game and now I'm 2587 01:51:07.880 --> 01:51:11.039 just having fun. Kind of consistently no matter what I'm doing. 2588 01:51:11.159 --> 01:51:14.680 The I did a couple of stealth missions through Imperial 2589 01:51:14.840 --> 01:51:18.720 fortresses that I found very satisfying, just because I do 2590 01:51:18.880 --> 01:51:22.800 have more abilities. Now, the fighting the Imperials doesn't have 2591 01:51:22.840 --> 01:51:25.640 any of the ramifications of like I'm maybe I'm getting 2592 01:51:25.680 --> 01:51:27.399 in good with one of the factions, but I'm definitely 2593 01:51:27.399 --> 01:51:29.560 pissing off another one. It's like, no, you just can 2594 01:51:29.680 --> 01:51:32.000 do whatever you want to the Imperials, and everyone seems 2595 01:51:32.000 --> 01:51:34.119 to be okay with that except for the Imperials, but 2596 01:51:34.159 --> 01:51:36.319 they always are kind of aggressive towards you. 2597 01:51:36.520 --> 01:51:37.600 So that's fun. 2598 01:51:38.880 --> 01:51:41.000 And then I'm like getting the hang of the faction 2599 01:51:41.159 --> 01:51:44.319 system where it's like everything I do is going to 2600 01:51:44.359 --> 01:51:47.720 have those ramifications. And that feels a little bit like 2601 01:51:47.800 --> 01:51:49.840 the Hans Solo fantasy that I would have imagined as 2602 01:51:49.840 --> 01:51:51.880 a kid, where it's like he's just doing his thing 2603 01:51:52.359 --> 01:51:55.239 and sometimes he's really in good with Java, and then 2604 01:51:55.319 --> 01:51:57.640 the next week he did one thing to mess up, 2605 01:51:57.680 --> 01:51:59.920 and now Jaba put out a hit on him, and 2606 01:52:00.119 --> 01:52:03.720 it's like, yeah, that that is happening here. So playing 2607 01:52:03.800 --> 01:52:06.039 it at my own pace has really been nice, And 2608 01:52:06.239 --> 01:52:08.039 I don't know, I'm not sure if it's a game 2609 01:52:08.079 --> 01:52:11.199 I'm like gonna recommend to everybody. But if you have 2610 01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:15.279 an affinity for Star Wars obviously, and you've ever had 2611 01:52:15.279 --> 01:52:17.439 a game where it's like, not everything is working for me, 2612 01:52:17.479 --> 01:52:19.000 but I still enjoying it because of this and this, 2613 01:52:19.359 --> 01:52:21.840 if you've been through that enough times, you'll probably know 2614 01:52:21.920 --> 01:52:22.880 if this is going to be for you. 2615 01:52:23.399 --> 01:52:26.560 You joined the Subach mini game, I am. Yeah, it's 2616 01:52:26.560 --> 01:52:28.560 a previous in game card game. Yeah. 2617 01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:32.119 I had a pretty bad run right at the start, 2618 01:52:32.239 --> 01:52:34.840 and now every time since then, I've kind of won consistently, 2619 01:52:34.880 --> 01:52:35.600 which is pretty fun. 2620 01:52:35.760 --> 01:52:39.920 I should I should consider playing both Outlaws and Jedi Survivor, 2621 01:52:39.960 --> 01:52:42.239 because I've heard great things about Jedi Survivor. For sure, 2622 01:52:44.079 --> 01:52:46.159 I liked it. I didn't beat it. I got pretty 2623 01:52:46.199 --> 01:52:48.119 far in it, like near the end, and I stopped. 2624 01:52:48.119 --> 01:52:50.920 But like I love the original trilogy, I have like 2625 01:52:51.039 --> 01:52:54.239 weird nostrologia for the prequel trilogy, as flawed as those are, 2626 01:52:54.319 --> 01:52:56.880 and I really liked seven and eight, but then I 2627 01:52:57.000 --> 01:52:59.199 hated nine, And I haven't seen really any of the 2628 01:52:59.439 --> 01:53:00.920 I don't have this plus, so I haven't seen any. 2629 01:53:00.920 --> 01:53:02.920 Don't need to watch it. You can watch and or, 2630 01:53:03.000 --> 01:53:05.239 but that's good. I've heard that's really good. 2631 01:53:06.560 --> 01:53:09.000 It's the best TV show that's ever been made. But yeah, yeah, 2632 01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:11.439 so that is the one I'm curious about. But yeah, 2633 01:53:11.520 --> 01:53:13.640 someone who just does have a certain fondness for Star 2634 01:53:13.680 --> 01:53:16.560 Wars without being a super fan, I feel like these 2635 01:53:16.600 --> 01:53:18.359 games sound good enough towards I'd like to just kind 2636 01:53:18.359 --> 01:53:19.520 of be in that world a bit, you know. 2637 01:53:19.760 --> 01:53:22.880 I think Outlaws might be Yeah, that might work for you, actually, Yeah, 2638 01:53:22.880 --> 01:53:25.479 and then the Survivors just a apparently the story gets 2639 01:53:25.600 --> 01:53:27.560 very good and I like I like that sort of light, 2640 01:53:27.720 --> 01:53:28.800 dark soul style game. 2641 01:53:28.880 --> 01:53:31.840 Yeah, Dan, I'm curious what you'd think about Outlaws. I 2642 01:53:31.880 --> 01:53:35.720 think you would like it to a certain extent. However, Grub, 2643 01:53:35.840 --> 01:53:38.479 have you done stealth missions for the main story yet 2644 01:53:38.800 --> 01:53:40.920 main storyline or are they the imperial bases that are 2645 01:53:40.960 --> 01:53:41.640 in the open world. 2646 01:53:42.000 --> 01:53:44.439 I've done both, Okay, gotcha. Uh. 2647 01:53:44.920 --> 01:53:47.279 But the one, the one main storyline imperial based one 2648 01:53:47.319 --> 01:53:50.600 I did was kind of frustrating because I couldn't figure 2649 01:53:50.640 --> 01:53:51.680 out the line they were trying to. 2650 01:53:51.840 --> 01:53:55.600 That was like the Head and the Jar. Yes, yes, 2651 01:53:55.960 --> 01:53:57.159 I played that one on my preview. 2652 01:53:57.399 --> 01:53:59.520 Yes, And once I figured it out and I got 2653 01:53:59.560 --> 01:54:01.960 to like, like the big there's like a big open 2654 01:54:02.079 --> 01:54:04.399 space and then there's like a kind of something yeah, 2655 01:54:04.439 --> 01:54:07.399 the hangar, and there is some like platforms along the wall, 2656 01:54:07.760 --> 01:54:09.359 and I'm like, where is this leading to? And I 2657 01:54:09.439 --> 01:54:11.640 didn't see that. There was like the wall right in 2658 01:54:11.640 --> 01:54:13.000 front of me. Was like, oh there, now those are 2659 01:54:13.079 --> 01:54:14.920 things I could like climb on the wall. And my 2660 01:54:15.039 --> 01:54:16.920 brain didn't process that. And because of that, I like 2661 01:54:17.159 --> 01:54:19.119 kind of lost for a little bit in there. And 2662 01:54:19.199 --> 01:54:21.279 that was that was frustrating. And at that point you 2663 01:54:21.359 --> 01:54:22.520 don't have a tone of abilities. 2664 01:54:23.760 --> 01:54:25.000 So yeah, that was. 2665 01:54:25.239 --> 01:54:28.319 Well, everything since then, honestly, that was the big hump 2666 01:54:28.399 --> 01:54:30.239 for me, and then everything since then has been a 2667 01:54:30.319 --> 01:54:30.800 lot of fun. 2668 01:54:30.960 --> 01:54:33.439 Okay, Yeah, I've seen so many reviews talk about how 2669 01:54:33.479 --> 01:54:36.359 it does the insta fel stealth missions like Circa on 2670 01:54:36.520 --> 01:54:37.039 Charted two. 2671 01:54:37.760 --> 01:54:42.039 Yes, they patched those though, right like they did make 2672 01:54:42.079 --> 01:54:44.119 they did, Yes, they did, actually they did make those easy. 2673 01:54:44.239 --> 01:54:46.920 What did they? Oh? They they like but you know, 2674 01:54:47.079 --> 01:54:48.079 I specifically patched. 2675 01:54:48.159 --> 01:54:51.520 They said the instant failures and the early stealth missions 2676 01:54:51.560 --> 01:54:53.680 were the patch Now whatever that means. 2677 01:54:53.520 --> 01:54:54.399 I don't know how to show. 2678 01:54:54.439 --> 01:54:58.239 Okay, that's that's good to know for this group though, 2679 01:54:58.600 --> 01:55:00.960 So none of you have played much of Jedi Survivor, 2680 01:55:01.039 --> 01:55:01.600 if any. 2681 01:55:03.359 --> 01:55:07.159 When you're like a couple hours, like five hours ish, 2682 01:55:07.199 --> 01:55:09.960 and then we got kind of busy. I also kept 2683 01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:12.399 waiting for a patch to fix the performance, which like 2684 01:55:12.680 --> 01:55:13.600 maybe never happened. 2685 01:55:13.640 --> 01:55:15.239 Yeah, the PC version got a little bit better. 2686 01:55:15.279 --> 01:55:18.479 People are saying, Okay, I played on PlayStation, but Dan, 2687 01:55:18.520 --> 01:55:19.960 I know, we talked about fire Skape for and I 2688 01:55:20.039 --> 01:55:21.760 told you, I think if you play more you'll like it. 2689 01:55:21.960 --> 01:55:24.880 I no, one fall in order. I liked. 2690 01:55:25.039 --> 01:55:28.800 However, the thing that Jedi Survivor surprised me. They go 2691 01:55:29.279 --> 01:55:31.760 very hard on the three D platforming in that game, 2692 01:55:31.960 --> 01:55:36.600 like yeahs of time kind of it's wall running and swinging, 2693 01:55:36.680 --> 01:55:41.000 and you get like a triple dump jump triple dump dump. 2694 01:55:44.960 --> 01:55:50.159 That was a single dump Dan, Nice, nice, beautiful. 2695 01:55:50.840 --> 01:55:54.960 No, you start getting air dashes and these like uh 2696 01:55:55.159 --> 01:55:57.560 like supernatural grappling hook stuff. 2697 01:55:57.720 --> 01:55:57.760 It. 2698 01:55:57.960 --> 01:55:59.960 They go harder on the platform in the game. 2699 01:56:00.399 --> 01:56:01.279 Okay, I need to play this. 2700 01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:03.960 Seeing that game is very weird because you get to 2701 01:56:04.079 --> 01:56:07.119 that planet early on that's just huge, and you can 2702 01:56:07.159 --> 01:56:09.680 explore that for like eight hours. I would encourage you 2703 01:56:09.760 --> 01:56:12.600 frog freak, Yes, I would encourage you to keep moving 2704 01:56:12.640 --> 01:56:14.399 to new planets as soon as they open up, because 2705 01:56:14.399 --> 01:56:15.479 you can go back to all these and I think 2706 01:56:15.520 --> 01:56:18.159 that helps the pacing. It gets to the point where 2707 01:56:18.279 --> 01:56:20.239 you're meeting characters that then give you their powers, and 2708 01:56:20.279 --> 01:56:22.479 you're picking up stuff Mega Man style, and then all 2709 01:56:22.520 --> 01:56:24.520 of a sudden, you are just like Airborne for ten 2710 01:56:24.560 --> 01:56:25.399 seconds at a time. 2711 01:56:26.079 --> 01:56:30.159 It's whoa, Okay, yeah, it's okay, I should play this. Yeah. 2712 01:56:30.239 --> 01:56:30.800 It gets like a. 2713 01:56:30.920 --> 01:56:33.760 Zelda structure too, in the sense that they're like, all right, well, 2714 01:56:34.720 --> 01:56:36.359 we got to kill this guy and get that thing. 2715 01:56:36.399 --> 01:56:38.199 We had to kill this person and get that thing. 2716 01:56:38.760 --> 01:56:41.279 She's fucking stuff off. We gotta go kill her. Where 2717 01:56:41.359 --> 01:56:42.760 do you want to go first? And you kind of 2718 01:56:42.880 --> 01:56:47.159 pick that game really surprised me. I wish i'd played 2719 01:56:47.159 --> 01:56:49.319 more of it when it first came out, but it 2720 01:56:49.560 --> 01:56:50.439 Jedi's Drivers. 2721 01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:51.239 Really. 2722 01:56:51.279 --> 01:56:53.159 I don't think people talk about it enough because again, 2723 01:56:53.199 --> 01:56:54.439 I don't think the opening is that strong. 2724 01:56:54.760 --> 01:56:56.680 So I just felt bored and I felt like when 2725 01:56:56.720 --> 01:56:58.119 I started it, I was like, I feel like I 2726 01:56:58.159 --> 01:56:58.920 can see what this is. 2727 01:56:59.039 --> 01:57:03.359 It's just a talk, you know, Yeah, it's just. 2728 01:57:04.760 --> 01:57:07.720 They Also it's it starts doing your building up your 2729 01:57:07.720 --> 01:57:09.880 own cantina and doing like base building, like Red Dead, 2730 01:57:09.920 --> 01:57:13.159 Redemptionry two, Horizon Forbidden West style right, Reiter to. 2731 01:57:13.520 --> 01:57:15.279 The Horizon. 2732 01:57:16.880 --> 01:57:19.720 Right, it's doing those things more like it's more gamifying. 2733 01:57:20.680 --> 01:57:23.680 Okay, okay, Well, Horizon, for all its faults is a 2734 01:57:23.840 --> 01:57:27.920 video game. I'll get no, for all of its qualities 2735 01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:30.720 is one of the best games ever made. But well, 2736 01:57:30.760 --> 01:57:32.960 I'm somewhere in the middle. I'm a reasonable. 2737 01:57:36.640 --> 01:57:37.920 Three out of seven dumps. 2738 01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:42.159 I still have seven of nine images up on my screen. 2739 01:57:42.199 --> 01:57:42.960 I haven't seen any of you. 2740 01:57:42.960 --> 01:57:43.720 For something wrong with that. 2741 01:57:44.399 --> 01:57:46.840 Yeah, I'm gonna be more to poll over here, but 2742 01:57:46.920 --> 01:57:50.000 I get it. Yeah, who real quick around the horn? 2743 01:57:50.039 --> 01:57:54.319 What's everybody's favorite Star Wars game ever? Jeff God, I. 2744 01:57:54.760 --> 01:58:02.399 Really do like it's Kotor's Tour Dan the go to Mike. First, Mike, 2745 01:58:02.600 --> 01:58:02.880 it's a. 2746 01:58:02.880 --> 01:58:04.880 Tie between galact The Battlegrounds and Empire at War. 2747 01:58:05.680 --> 01:58:06.039 Okay. 2748 01:58:06.239 --> 01:58:10.760 Rogue Squadron sixty four, that's one where you light Saber 2749 01:58:10.800 --> 01:58:14.720 fight Darth Vader. That one's great too. Rogue Squadron is awesome. Listen, Mike, 2750 01:58:14.760 --> 01:58:15.439 You're right that way. 2751 01:58:15.800 --> 01:58:18.479 Rouge Squadron two is is a fantastic But Rogue Squadron 2752 01:58:18.520 --> 01:58:19.800 for the sixty four rules. 2753 01:58:20.000 --> 01:58:22.079 I'll probably say I'd probably say Cooteor, Jeff took Its. 2754 01:58:22.119 --> 01:58:25.239 I'll say episode one pod Racer, Yeah, racedors grade, Racers grade. 2755 01:58:25.399 --> 01:58:28.159 I liked Masters of Tarakazi. You know the whole reason 2756 01:58:28.199 --> 01:58:31.199 I like Tarakazi. Listen, it's a shitty fighting game, but 2757 01:58:31.279 --> 01:58:34.319 you love a character named Horror whenever you get happened 2758 01:58:34.359 --> 01:58:36.880 sixth grade for sure. But I think it was like 2759 01:58:37.039 --> 01:58:39.159 R two if you were playing as Luke Erevader or something, 2760 01:58:39.159 --> 01:58:41.479 you could literally just like press it like trim and 2761 01:58:41.640 --> 01:58:43.720 like every kid loves that and just having like a 2762 01:58:43.760 --> 01:58:46.279 button that and make the fucking sword come out. 2763 01:58:46.359 --> 01:58:49.000 And the saber like that felt great. That's good. 2764 01:58:49.279 --> 01:58:51.359 We talk about how we in Blake Club we play 2765 01:58:51.399 --> 01:58:53.359 the doors games ever, and there are some games that 2766 01:58:53.399 --> 01:58:55.039 when people like this is one of the worst games ever, 2767 01:58:55.319 --> 01:58:56.560 that it makes me roll my eyes. 2768 01:58:56.840 --> 01:58:59.520 Masters of tares Kasi is definitely one like, oh, come. 2769 01:58:59.399 --> 01:59:00.359 On, fair. 2770 01:59:00.680 --> 01:59:03.119 I only played the demo disc version that let you 2771 01:59:03.199 --> 01:59:04.920 play as Luke and Darth and me and my friends 2772 01:59:04.920 --> 01:59:07.760 who just like, like, we didn't actually play it. I 2773 01:59:07.800 --> 01:59:09.560 didn't actually like this is a good fighting game. I 2774 01:59:09.680 --> 01:59:10.920 just like pulling lightsabers out there. 2775 01:59:10.960 --> 01:59:14.760 It's clearly no techn but no, it doesn't offend me 2776 01:59:14.880 --> 01:59:17.479 like it offends some people, right right, there was a 2777 01:59:17.560 --> 01:59:20.520 novelty to like playing a fighting game as Luke Skywalker. 2778 01:59:20.760 --> 01:59:24.920 Yeah, all right, Spot for Shadows. 2779 01:59:24.920 --> 01:59:27.319 The Empire the Phantom Mess game I bought and I 2780 01:59:27.520 --> 01:59:29.920 tried real hard to enjoy it because I spent fifteen hours. 2781 01:59:30.720 --> 01:59:31.119 That is a. 2782 01:59:32.720 --> 01:59:35.279 Guilty pleasure for me. I like, like, want to play 2783 01:59:35.279 --> 01:59:41.479 it again. It's good. It's not like Jedi Power Battles Box. 2784 01:59:41.520 --> 01:59:42.960 And when I went back to recently was like, this 2785 01:59:43.039 --> 01:59:45.600 game is way simpler and a minute It's like a 2786 01:59:45.920 --> 01:59:47.760 very simple Jedi Power Battles. 2787 01:59:47.800 --> 01:59:52.680 I'm having a weird one one and Dreamcast Yeah, it 2788 01:59:52.760 --> 01:59:54.439 was just a beat them up with the with the 2789 01:59:54.640 --> 01:59:57.840 episode one Jedi that was the only one at the time. 2790 01:59:58.720 --> 02:00:00.800 Plays like kind of fun. But does Mace Wind do 2791 02:00:00.920 --> 02:00:05.199 in it? Base Wind do ob one? Why Gone? And 2792 02:00:05.319 --> 02:00:09.279 like a fourth one? I forget who heard you? Which? 2793 02:00:09.920 --> 02:00:11.239 If I wanted to play one of these Star Wars 2794 02:00:11.279 --> 02:00:12.840 strategy games, which one would you recommend? 2795 02:00:12.920 --> 02:00:13.039 Now? 2796 02:00:13.520 --> 02:00:16.319 So Empire War still has an active, like very like 2797 02:00:16.560 --> 02:00:20.159 vibrant modding community. Wow, it's I would say that is 2798 02:00:20.199 --> 02:00:24.760 a better RTS. However, I always liked galactic so galactic battlegrounds. 2799 02:00:24.760 --> 02:00:26.920 They took Empire at War two's engine and made it 2800 02:00:27.000 --> 02:00:31.000 into Star Wars, so you might eat Empires two. 2801 02:00:31.159 --> 02:00:34.159 Yeah, what did I say, Empire War Empire War? 2802 02:00:34.199 --> 02:00:36.479 Oh sorry, Age Vampires two, right, because that's the one 2803 02:00:36.479 --> 02:00:38.479 I'd like because it was just Age of Empires two 2804 02:00:38.479 --> 02:00:38.920 is Star Wars. 2805 02:00:39.079 --> 02:00:41.800 Like listen, yes, it gets awkward. 2806 02:00:41.399 --> 02:00:43.640 Though when you're in this sci fi game where they 2807 02:00:43.720 --> 02:00:46.840 have literal planet sized lasers that can blow up planets 2808 02:00:47.279 --> 02:00:50.079 and you still the way. They tried to conform to 2809 02:00:50.159 --> 02:00:53.960 the Age of Empires two unit type, so they had 2810 02:00:54.000 --> 02:00:56.359 to make like every army has pummels, which are these 2811 02:00:56.439 --> 02:00:58.520 machines that roll up to buildings and hit them like 2812 02:00:58.640 --> 02:00:59.319 battering rams. 2813 02:00:59.439 --> 02:01:01.720 Like why does Star Wars You know this is Star Wars. 2814 02:01:01.880 --> 02:01:04.760 They have cannons and lasers and whatnot, but they have 2815 02:01:04.800 --> 02:01:07.439 a scenario editor where you could just get a blank 2816 02:01:07.520 --> 02:01:11.199 field and then literate with uh the with at A 2817 02:01:11.319 --> 02:01:12.319 T S and whatnot. 2818 02:01:12.399 --> 02:01:15.760 Oh God, I gotta recommend uh we're playing that Warhammer 2819 02:01:15.880 --> 02:01:17.880 game and they do like an RTS version that I 2820 02:01:17.920 --> 02:01:18.840 gotta tell you about that later. 2821 02:01:19.079 --> 02:01:24.279 So, oh, Warhammer does like an rts, like a did 2822 02:01:24.319 --> 02:01:26.000 you do you know about? You know that dance? Playing 2823 02:01:26.000 --> 02:01:28.319 Space Marine two and it's like, wow, Warhammer, that's this 2824 02:01:28.479 --> 02:01:30.680 is pretty neat. I'm not. 2825 02:01:30.840 --> 02:01:33.399 I'm not as into forty K. I'm into fantasy. Are 2826 02:01:33.439 --> 02:01:35.359 you Are you mocking me? Are you fucking with me? 2827 02:01:35.720 --> 02:01:35.760 No? 2828 02:01:36.159 --> 02:01:38.520 I just I started playing my first Warhammer game and 2829 02:01:38.560 --> 02:01:39.840 it's pretty cool, and I just wanted. 2830 02:01:39.640 --> 02:01:43.640 To Space Marine to forty K. 2831 02:01:43.920 --> 02:01:46.439 So to be clear, I'm not the biggest forty K 2832 02:01:46.680 --> 02:01:48.600 person right now. I'm war into fantasy. 2833 02:01:48.920 --> 02:01:50.960 Yeah, that's the part of why Warhammer sucks. 2834 02:01:51.079 --> 02:01:56.920 It's confusing. No, it's not. It doesn't suck. 2835 02:01:57.239 --> 02:01:59.560 It's just like it's very hard to like as a 2836 02:01:59.680 --> 02:02:01.199 as a a person to be like, what the fuck 2837 02:02:01.279 --> 02:02:03.600 is anyone talking about this high fantasy? 2838 02:02:03.880 --> 02:02:06.800 And there's one that and the one that usually takes 2839 02:02:06.840 --> 02:02:09.800 place in their forty thousand it's just not that smarts, 2840 02:02:09.880 --> 02:02:12.399 the one were Lass and Satchels that. 2841 02:02:13.600 --> 02:02:15.079 I don't know what you fuck you mean about? 2842 02:02:16.479 --> 02:02:20.680 Vermentide is as a Warhammer, it's fantasy. There's nine hundred 2843 02:02:20.760 --> 02:02:24.039 Warhammer things. Some of them are figures, some of them 2844 02:02:24.119 --> 02:02:26.560 are rts, some of them are rats and Olden times 2845 02:02:26.640 --> 02:02:30.920 and some of them are crazy space Terminator priests, so 2846 02:02:31.439 --> 02:02:33.600 jealous that Warammer gets so much bullshit. 2847 02:02:33.680 --> 02:02:34.439 I would love that. 2848 02:02:35.439 --> 02:02:37.479 It's like what Star Wars I think for years was 2849 02:02:37.520 --> 02:02:37.920 trying what. 2850 02:02:38.640 --> 02:02:40.840 Yeah, it was successfully doing like in a lot of 2851 02:02:40.880 --> 02:02:43.079 ways in the in gamecuber and a little bit before that. 2852 02:02:43.439 --> 02:02:45.079 This is my taste of it, though, and I think 2853 02:02:45.079 --> 02:02:48.159 it's fucking awesome, Like Space Marine two, me grabbing Janner 2854 02:02:48.279 --> 02:02:50.439 playing it. We're a couple of chapters in and god 2855 02:02:50.520 --> 02:02:52.199 damn if that's just not a fun ass game. 2856 02:02:52.279 --> 02:02:56.680 Like yeah, so yeah, Mahart, do you play Total War Warhammer? Yes? 2857 02:02:57.359 --> 02:02:59.279 And then there is what is the other one that's 2858 02:02:59.319 --> 02:03:04.279 like the Company of here Rose one uh age six whatever? 2859 02:03:04.359 --> 02:03:06.760 He was forty k Donald Series forty k. That was 2860 02:03:06.800 --> 02:03:10.760 Relic Entertainment and this Company of Heroes. Okay, yeah, correct 2861 02:03:10.880 --> 02:03:13.800 they did, right, yes, yeah, but no, I play Total 2862 02:03:13.840 --> 02:03:15.840 War which is Creative Assembly, which is they do all 2863 02:03:15.840 --> 02:03:17.039 the historical total workames. 2864 02:03:17.159 --> 02:03:19.399 Yeah, Total War Rome is the last one I play 2865 02:03:19.960 --> 02:03:23.399 back in the day history. That's true. Correct, Good. 2866 02:03:23.560 --> 02:03:26.920 Ever, here's the here's the layer of Fantasy Warhammer that 2867 02:03:26.960 --> 02:03:28.680 people don't always know about. If you're looking at the 2868 02:03:28.760 --> 02:03:32.640 map of the Fantasy Warhamer map, it's just a parody 2869 02:03:32.720 --> 02:03:33.239 of Earth. 2870 02:03:33.760 --> 02:03:35.600 And then Jesus in that one as well. 2871 02:03:35.920 --> 02:03:39.960 There's Jesus figures all over Warhammer Fantasy like Waramer forty K. 2872 02:03:40.039 --> 02:03:43.560 Apparently the Emperor he means Jesus Christ. Yes, Oh, this 2873 02:03:43.760 --> 02:03:44.680 is just the world. 2874 02:03:44.720 --> 02:03:47.680 I'm looking at the picture that there's Africa, there's North America. 2875 02:03:48.119 --> 02:03:52.680 The different factions are like inspired by different historical cultures, 2876 02:03:52.840 --> 02:03:56.840 and then like the Greenskins, the Orcs are actually if 2877 02:03:56.840 --> 02:03:57.199 you hear them. 2878 02:03:57.239 --> 02:03:59.159 I don't know if you could say that there is 2879 02:04:00.079 --> 02:04:02.760 city of Quintechs. Mike lives in the forest of Ahnheim. 2880 02:04:02.960 --> 02:04:04.520 This is about the author, right, think. 2881 02:04:04.479 --> 02:04:05.920 Dan, I know where both of those are. 2882 02:04:06.119 --> 02:04:08.439 To a pinpoint, I could tell you inteent City of 2883 02:04:08.520 --> 02:04:12.920 Quintex is over near like southern It's like a Central America. 2884 02:04:13.640 --> 02:04:16.840 In the petrified forest. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. 2885 02:04:16.920 --> 02:04:19.720 The last Warhammer normal Warhammer game I played, I think, 2886 02:04:19.840 --> 02:04:23.239 was the Age of Reckoning, the MMO that was actually 2887 02:04:23.319 --> 02:04:25.159 really good, but then World of Warcoff just kind of 2888 02:04:25.399 --> 02:04:27.800 stole all of its best ideas and used them, and 2889 02:04:27.880 --> 02:04:30.039 then Age of Reckoning died pretty shortly after. 2890 02:04:30.079 --> 02:04:31.800 That was kind of I've been talking to Vinnie because 2891 02:04:31.840 --> 02:04:35.479 Vinnie got the games in a sale, and I'm we're 2892 02:04:35.560 --> 02:04:39.880 trying to find time so I can kind of shirpa him, Dan, Dan, 2893 02:04:39.960 --> 02:04:42.720 I think, I don't think this will actually ever happen. However, 2894 02:04:42.760 --> 02:04:44.640 there's a world in which I actually get you to 2895 02:04:44.720 --> 02:04:46.520 sit down and try it for like a few hours. 2896 02:04:46.560 --> 02:04:49.479 And there's ship you the armies you can build. I 2897 02:04:50.520 --> 02:04:52.800 you would love so much, dude. The rat, the Skaven, 2898 02:04:52.880 --> 02:04:55.439 the rats are Here's the thing. They are based their 2899 02:04:55.479 --> 02:04:57.960 weaponry and their fighting style is based on World War 2900 02:04:58.079 --> 02:04:59.479 One weapons. 2901 02:05:00.039 --> 02:05:00.520 They have, right. 2902 02:05:01.960 --> 02:05:08.119 Have rattling guns that shoot search no search rattling gun 2903 02:05:08.199 --> 02:05:11.720 warhammer three okay, and it's just they shoot this green 2904 02:05:11.880 --> 02:05:14.560 warpstone ship that fell from out of space on a a. 2905 02:05:15.159 --> 02:05:17.600 Is it a meteor or a meteor hits the Earth. 2906 02:05:17.640 --> 02:05:19.079 Yeah, that's exactly what I would expect. 2907 02:05:19.119 --> 02:05:24.000 And then they have ninja rats because they dug underground 2908 02:05:24.039 --> 02:05:25.760 and were trying to come up in the Empire of Man, 2909 02:05:25.840 --> 02:05:27.640 but they dug too far and they came up in Cathay, 2910 02:05:27.840 --> 02:05:31.600 they yes, exactly, and they came up and they came 2911 02:05:31.720 --> 02:05:37.039 up in fantasy like Japan, and they learned ninja there 2912 02:05:37.119 --> 02:05:38.960 and so they became Ninja Rats. And there's a whole 2913 02:05:39.039 --> 02:05:42.239 faction of the Scaven in Warhammer three that is based 2914 02:05:42.279 --> 02:05:45.920 on Sutterfuge and you take contracts to kill different people. 2915 02:05:46.720 --> 02:05:49.239 And then there's there's the Dark Elves who get these 2916 02:05:49.279 --> 02:05:50.960 ships that you can sell up and down rivers and 2917 02:05:51.000 --> 02:05:52.279 then bombard ship from it. 2918 02:05:52.600 --> 02:05:54.960 It's it's can I get okay? 2919 02:05:55.000 --> 02:05:57.640 Because everything I'm hearing I just said a whole podcast 2920 02:05:57.720 --> 02:05:59.319 with Bennie and next Langder this week too, and Benny 2921 02:05:59.359 --> 02:06:02.520 was talking about it Warhammer. Everything I hear about Warhammer 2922 02:06:02.600 --> 02:06:06.640 from everyone sounds awesome and like exactly my mix of 2923 02:06:06.800 --> 02:06:09.239 like super stupid ship that takes itself the right level 2924 02:06:09.239 --> 02:06:13.720 of seriously, Yeah, what does the path for me with Warhammer? 2925 02:06:13.800 --> 02:06:16.720 If I don't want to buy a model train set 2926 02:06:16.800 --> 02:06:18.600 and paint things, I just want to like. 2927 02:06:18.760 --> 02:06:20.039 A lot of the games play play. 2928 02:06:21.039 --> 02:06:23.479 Honestly, Space Marine two is a great intro. It's that 2929 02:06:23.640 --> 02:06:26.840 third person you know, like action shooting and fighting. 2930 02:06:26.960 --> 02:06:28.520 Yeah, and let's play Vermin Tide. 2931 02:06:29.319 --> 02:06:31.680 Yeah, Dan, we played Tim Terry got us in. 2932 02:06:31.880 --> 02:06:32.520 Well here's the thing. 2933 02:06:32.600 --> 02:06:34.760 I think, So that needs to be like a B 2934 02:06:35.039 --> 02:06:37.880 step for me, because like I don't like fancy stuff. 2935 02:06:39.119 --> 02:06:41.760 The reason I like, honestly, I'm a dumbass and I 2936 02:06:41.800 --> 02:06:44.479 see a terminator priest in fucking Space Marine. 2937 02:06:44.520 --> 02:06:46.079 I'm like, what is this cool dude? And I'm some 2938 02:06:46.319 --> 02:06:48.720 way so invested in this. We could do Dark Tide first, 2939 02:06:48.760 --> 02:06:50.000 then let's do Dark Tide first, and. 2940 02:06:52.479 --> 02:06:55.880 Yeah, you gonna ease me into the deep end here, 2941 02:06:56.039 --> 02:06:58.039 you know, like I love everything I'm hearing. 2942 02:06:58.479 --> 02:07:01.680 So it's also important to note there's been a lot 2943 02:07:01.720 --> 02:07:05.760 of speculation about what Creative Assembly is doing next. There 2944 02:07:05.880 --> 02:07:07.920 is the rumor, the Star Wars rumor for a bit, 2945 02:07:09.640 --> 02:07:12.439 which I don't know that that has borne out, you 2946 02:07:12.640 --> 02:07:16.039 yea more than me, but from everything years off, so 2947 02:07:16.199 --> 02:07:18.960 it was more like early talks. However, people are still 2948 02:07:19.880 --> 02:07:23.840 assuming that forty they're going to do Total War Warhammer 2949 02:07:23.960 --> 02:07:26.960 forty k, at which point you're gonna start learning all 2950 02:07:27.000 --> 02:07:28.279 the different factions of Space Marines. 2951 02:07:28.319 --> 02:07:33.159 You're gonna learn like Sarcraft style like Space No Total War, 2952 02:07:33.479 --> 02:07:36.760 but what Dan just like because donav War is considered 2953 02:07:36.840 --> 02:07:37.159 like one. 2954 02:07:37.079 --> 02:07:39.479 Of the Oh yeah Dan, Dan, you could play Dona 2955 02:07:39.520 --> 02:07:43.119 War two is a command and conquer style artists. 2956 02:07:44.239 --> 02:07:48.239 It's like, yeah, like one, but yeah, I. 2957 02:07:48.239 --> 02:07:50.279 Could see me and you during our Reddular two stream 2958 02:07:50.359 --> 02:07:52.800 kind of stuff with Donna War, Dono War three was fine. 2959 02:07:52.840 --> 02:07:54.640 I would say I think donov War two was the peak. 2960 02:07:55.079 --> 02:07:59.920 Three got co op awesomely screenshots. This looks like like 2961 02:08:00.479 --> 02:08:03.520 I've been moaning, uh Command Conquer being dead forever. This 2962 02:08:03.600 --> 02:08:04.840 looks like the type of ship I want. 2963 02:08:05.359 --> 02:08:08.079 Dude, the company, the developer that made Company of Heroes 2964 02:08:08.079 --> 02:08:09.880 one of the most lauded rts ever, made these. 2965 02:08:10.119 --> 02:08:12.199 Okay, well, hang on now, because I wanted to like 2966 02:08:12.239 --> 02:08:14.159 Company of Heroes back when it came out, but then 2967 02:08:14.199 --> 02:08:15.439 it was one of those things where it's like, I 2968 02:08:15.479 --> 02:08:17.680 don't want to be one dude sneaking around. 2969 02:08:19.239 --> 02:08:19.920 Armies, you know. 2970 02:08:20.239 --> 02:08:22.079 I use that to illustrate the point that at least 2971 02:08:22.560 --> 02:08:26.319 they they know what the No. This is more Plan 2972 02:08:26.399 --> 02:08:29.800 and Conquer, like the unit cap is more absurd, It's 2973 02:08:29.840 --> 02:08:30.600 more StarCraft. 2974 02:08:31.079 --> 02:08:35.039 Okay, I want WAT twenty eleven. Geez, I want to 2975 02:08:35.119 --> 02:08:35.479 tell you this. 2976 02:08:35.640 --> 02:08:37.960 I don't know Donald War three. I honestly haven't gone back. 2977 02:08:38.079 --> 02:08:40.000 Dona four three may have aged better, but it kind. 2978 02:08:39.840 --> 02:08:41.720 Of recent reviews on that. 2979 02:08:42.039 --> 02:08:43.720 Yeah, I mean, I know, I just like from my 2980 02:08:43.880 --> 02:08:46.279 like very offend knowledge, I know that don War one 2981 02:08:46.319 --> 02:08:49.199 is considered classic. Yeah, and maybe three not so much. 2982 02:08:49.199 --> 02:08:51.039 I don't know War two or Dona. War three is 2983 02:08:51.039 --> 02:08:53.880 still mixed. With recent reviews and Donald War two is 2984 02:08:53.880 --> 02:08:54.640 all very positive. 2985 02:08:54.680 --> 02:08:55.239 On two. 2986 02:08:55.800 --> 02:08:59.119 War one was overwhelmingly positive. Yeah, I still think two 2987 02:08:59.239 --> 02:09:04.039 is better three. Three definitely took a few steps back. 2988 02:09:04.039 --> 02:09:07.479 I think they oversimplified things. I think that that was 2989 02:09:08.039 --> 02:09:10.399 done for three would have been two thousand and fifteen 2990 02:09:11.800 --> 02:09:13.840 or twenty seventeen seventeen. 2991 02:09:13.840 --> 02:09:13.920 Ok. 2992 02:09:14.199 --> 02:09:15.439 I think that was the era where a lot of 2993 02:09:15.520 --> 02:09:17.279 like strategy games were trying to like get as many 2994 02:09:17.359 --> 02:09:19.520 players as possible, so they dumbed down a lot of things. 2995 02:09:20.079 --> 02:09:22.239 Their Final Fantasy sixteen year yep, I get you. 2996 02:09:22.720 --> 02:09:25.039 Yeah, and Donov War two. I think they didn't give 2997 02:09:25.039 --> 02:09:27.520 a fuck and they were like, let's cater to our audience. 2998 02:09:28.159 --> 02:09:28.479 All right. 2999 02:09:28.479 --> 02:09:30.439 I'm looking at screenshots in some of this there's a 3000 02:09:30.520 --> 02:09:32.199 weird orc with a pirate hat. I think I'm like 3001 02:09:32.319 --> 02:09:35.319 dangerously close to like wanting to get into Warhammer. But 3002 02:09:35.520 --> 02:09:37.640 if what if we picked a book to read, I 3003 02:09:37.680 --> 02:09:38.960 would do it. We could do a book club of 3004 02:09:39.000 --> 02:09:41.600 a Warhammer book I would do would take a good 3005 02:09:41.800 --> 02:09:42.920 three level one I would do that. 3006 02:09:43.039 --> 02:09:45.560 So actually I got a friend that writes some ones 3007 02:09:45.600 --> 02:09:48.600 about like the like the the Elite Sniper Team and 3008 02:09:48.640 --> 02:09:51.600 stuff is not not no, not Jeff Grubb, although Jeff 3009 02:09:51.600 --> 02:09:54.159 Grubb I think does write some Warhammer books. 3010 02:09:54.199 --> 02:09:56.319 The other h I will say, if you don't like fantasy, 3011 02:09:56.439 --> 02:09:58.000 it's you're you're gonna prefer forty K. 3012 02:09:58.119 --> 02:09:58.359 I think. 3013 02:09:58.560 --> 02:10:01.520 However, I actually, in my experience, forty K takes itself 3014 02:10:01.600 --> 02:10:03.000 more seriously than fantasy does. 3015 02:10:03.119 --> 02:10:05.000 But I mean just the stuff I've heard about, like, oh, 3016 02:10:05.119 --> 02:10:07.399 the Orcs paint their cars red because I think it 3017 02:10:07.439 --> 02:10:09.800 makes it go faster and because they believe it it works, 3018 02:10:10.119 --> 02:10:12.000 and like all this, and. 3019 02:10:12.680 --> 02:10:15.920 They also the Orcs in Warhammer Fantasy they're inspired by 3020 02:10:16.279 --> 02:10:19.359 uh football hooligans. 3021 02:10:19.079 --> 02:10:23.479 In Okay, the UK. I can like fantasy. I like Zelda, 3022 02:10:23.640 --> 02:10:26.159 like Game of Thrones, you know, like it's honest. 3023 02:10:26.239 --> 02:10:30.840 Forty K like c RPG last year Roade Trader, Yeah 3024 02:10:30.960 --> 02:10:31.399 did you did? 3025 02:10:31.439 --> 02:10:32.760 You guys not talk about in Giant Bomb. 3026 02:10:33.079 --> 02:10:35.680 I don't think so. We have a little bit of 3027 02:10:35.760 --> 02:10:37.840 a c RPG, but I do what I can. 3028 02:10:38.000 --> 02:10:43.039 But yeah, very fair, being very very reductive. It's Balderskate three, 3029 02:10:43.079 --> 02:10:45.800 but Warhammer forty K. Yeah, Dan, you would not like it. 3030 02:10:46.119 --> 02:10:49.760 It's it's even it's eight times more complex than Balderskate three. 3031 02:10:50.279 --> 02:10:52.039 It's not as good as baldersk three. But I still 3032 02:10:52.119 --> 02:10:53.760 know there they have it, but they have every genre. 3033 02:10:54.000 --> 02:10:55.920 Like the point like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you. 3034 02:10:55.920 --> 02:10:57.399 Know, I want to keep playing Space Marine two and 3035 02:10:57.399 --> 02:10:59.239 I want to play the RTS stuff. That sounds great. 3036 02:10:59.439 --> 02:11:01.039 Tried out of four too, But again, I think there's 3037 02:11:01.039 --> 02:11:04.680 a there's a point where Warhammer Fantasy. I like it 3038 02:11:04.800 --> 02:11:07.720 less because it's fantasy and more because I there's a 3039 02:11:07.880 --> 02:11:10.439 character called His name is Kiro's Fate. So there's there's 3040 02:11:10.439 --> 02:11:14.520 a bunch of different races and there's dwarves, there's humans, 3041 02:11:14.600 --> 02:11:18.760 there's high elves, there's dark Elves's wood elves, there's orcs. 3042 02:11:18.920 --> 02:11:22.640 There's there's a whole undead faction modeled after ancient Egypt. 3043 02:11:22.880 --> 02:11:25.439 They're mummies, and then there's ones that are based more 3044 02:11:25.479 --> 02:11:30.880 off like Brahm Stoker style vampires. Seeing all these ones clashed, 3045 02:11:30.880 --> 02:11:32.560 you're like, oh, okay, I'm gonna go fight the vampire. 3046 02:11:32.560 --> 02:11:33.960 So I got to focus on taking on the leader, 3047 02:11:34.000 --> 02:11:36.119 because then the skeletons and the zombies and these like 3048 02:11:36.319 --> 02:11:37.079 huge bats. 3049 02:11:36.880 --> 02:11:37.680 Will all crumble. 3050 02:11:38.279 --> 02:11:41.680 It's more about like the spectacle just gets so fucking ridiculous. 3051 02:11:41.880 --> 02:11:44.960 The lizard men are dinosaurs and they have like Aztec 3052 02:11:45.039 --> 02:11:49.760 trappings and they it's so fucking funny because these like sarus, 3053 02:11:49.880 --> 02:11:54.560 these like mini like crocodiles will be riding t rexes. 3054 02:11:54.600 --> 02:11:58.159 So they're dinosaurs riding other dinosaurs into battle. Okay, it 3055 02:11:58.239 --> 02:12:01.439 gets to a level of ridiculous where it's the most 3056 02:12:01.600 --> 02:12:06.239 like I honestly like I during some of these battles 3057 02:12:06.279 --> 02:12:09.039 and thinking this is like Dan Reiker level of like 3058 02:12:09.520 --> 02:12:16.239 just fun bullshit kind of spectacle and like pomp It's 3059 02:12:16.319 --> 02:12:17.279 it's it's so fun. 3060 02:12:17.600 --> 02:12:18.520 Did you play bolt Gun? 3061 02:12:19.199 --> 02:12:25.560 Yes? I did play Bultgun was fun, I really was. Yeah. 3062 02:12:25.960 --> 02:12:28.640 I liked it. Yeah, yeah, I thought it kind of 3063 02:12:28.680 --> 02:12:30.359 went on a little long for for what it was, 3064 02:12:30.439 --> 02:12:31.600 but I liked it. Agreed. 3065 02:12:33.359 --> 02:12:35.960 I'm the download bulk Gun because yeah, that did look 3066 02:12:36.000 --> 02:12:38.079 cool from what I saw it. Okay, Bloomer Shooter, I 3067 02:12:38.159 --> 02:12:39.439 want to keep my toe in there and like I 3068 02:12:39.479 --> 02:12:40.960 want to keep playing Space Marin with you guys. 3069 02:12:41.720 --> 02:12:43.279 Bull Guns is great because it has a button that's 3070 02:12:43.359 --> 02:12:46.079 just like the Taunt button. They recorded like five hundred 3071 02:12:46.199 --> 02:12:47.600 lines for like the things he screens. 3072 02:12:50.800 --> 02:12:54.600 There's a forty K show in the work with Henry Cavill. 3073 02:12:54.319 --> 02:12:54.680 At the lead. 3074 02:12:54.880 --> 02:12:58.399 Henry Cavill, he is a huge wow mister Warhammer forty K. 3075 02:12:58.600 --> 02:13:00.760 Yeah, Ner, is it gonna be you like kind of 3076 02:13:00.800 --> 02:13:02.199 good at first? Then the writing is going to let 3077 02:13:02.239 --> 02:13:02.600 him down? 3078 02:13:02.720 --> 02:13:03.600 Yes? Probably? 3079 02:13:03.760 --> 02:13:10.840 Yeah, Dan, you were also played what did you play? No, sorry, grub, 3080 02:13:10.960 --> 02:13:13.159 you were playing Plucky. 3081 02:13:13.479 --> 02:13:20.399 Yes, yeah, I played Plucky Squire. A think it's Sucky Squire. Yeah, 3082 02:13:20.479 --> 02:13:24.840 you never said that Squire it is. 3083 02:13:25.479 --> 02:13:28.279 I'm finding it pretty boring. Is kind of where I'm at, 3084 02:13:28.720 --> 02:13:30.680 and it's hard to like. People say, maybe gets a 3085 02:13:30.680 --> 02:13:32.279 little bit better once you get a little bit later 3086 02:13:32.319 --> 02:13:34.239 into it, but I'm finding it very hard to like 3087 02:13:34.319 --> 02:13:37.039 build up the momentum to get past this these early sections. 3088 02:13:37.039 --> 02:13:38.840 I'm about an hour and a half in. I've not 3089 02:13:38.960 --> 02:13:40.960 played it more since we talked about it down on 3090 02:13:41.000 --> 02:13:41.600 the bomb Test. 3091 02:13:44.000 --> 02:13:44.159 Yes. 3092 02:13:44.319 --> 02:13:49.520 What is Plucky Squire is that it's the the storybook 3093 02:13:49.600 --> 02:13:51.520 game where the character is kind of in a Zelda 3094 02:13:51.640 --> 02:13:54.279 like in a little book that sits on a table 3095 02:13:54.640 --> 02:13:57.479 and it's hand painted and it's it's gorgeous, and then 3096 02:13:57.960 --> 02:14:00.520 something happens in the book so that the care gets 3097 02:14:01.199 --> 02:14:03.720 teleported out of the book into the real world and 3098 02:14:03.800 --> 02:14:05.840 then it becomes a three D character that is walking 3099 02:14:05.920 --> 02:14:11.119 among little beetles and coffee mugs and rulers and pencils, 3100 02:14:11.520 --> 02:14:13.600 and it's that's a really cool effect. It's a really 3101 02:14:13.640 --> 02:14:16.039 cool idea. I thought this game looked amazing in trailers, 3102 02:14:16.479 --> 02:14:20.199 and I play it and it's kind of just this slow, plodding, 3103 02:14:20.560 --> 02:14:24.239 deliberate game that stops frequently to tell story and then 3104 02:14:24.279 --> 02:14:25.479 even more frequently to tell you. 3105 02:14:25.520 --> 02:14:26.000 How to play it. 3106 02:14:26.199 --> 02:14:28.640 We love it, and on fire Escape, yeah, it is 3107 02:14:29.520 --> 02:14:32.399 very undoy in a lot of ways. On paper, it's 3108 02:14:32.439 --> 02:14:35.039 something that I feel like me and also you greub 3109 02:14:35.119 --> 02:14:37.119 with love. It's like, we got some Zelda stuff. We 3110 02:14:37.159 --> 02:14:38.680 got a good gimmick with the like jumping in and 3111 02:14:38.760 --> 02:14:41.039 out two D three D, we got platforming sections, we 3112 02:14:41.119 --> 02:14:45.199 have tiny character, big world type stuff, and it occasionally 3113 02:14:45.239 --> 02:14:47.920 does like a clever gimmick thing where oh, okay, you 3114 02:14:48.039 --> 02:14:50.199 interact with this thing in the three D world and 3115 02:14:50.279 --> 02:14:51.640 it does this thing with the two D world, or 3116 02:14:51.720 --> 02:14:53.760 the book turns vertically and it turns into more book 3117 02:14:53.840 --> 02:14:56.560 like climbing level type thing, but none of the actual 3118 02:14:57.000 --> 02:14:59.600 like outside of the gimmicks, none of the moment to 3119 02:14:59.600 --> 02:15:02.840 moment game play feels super engaging or challenging or clever. 3120 02:15:03.039 --> 02:15:05.279 It's just it's got a lot of ideas and it 3121 02:15:05.479 --> 02:15:07.319 just doesn't really run with any of them far enough 3122 02:15:07.399 --> 02:15:09.119 to be very engaging, you know. 3123 02:15:09.279 --> 02:15:10.960 Right, that is and that like, so this is what 3124 02:15:11.000 --> 02:15:11.359 I've heard this. 3125 02:15:11.439 --> 02:15:13.880 One of the reasons I'm like not feeling too encouraged 3126 02:15:13.880 --> 02:15:15.920 to keep playing is when people say it gets better, 3127 02:15:15.960 --> 02:15:18.119 they're saying it it does a little bit less of 3128 02:15:18.159 --> 02:15:20.399 the handholding, a little bit less of you go into 3129 02:15:20.439 --> 02:15:22.560 an area and the camera's going to show you exactly 3130 02:15:22.600 --> 02:15:24.159 what you need to be doing, then you just go 3131 02:15:24.319 --> 02:15:26.600 do it, which I really dislike, and this game does 3132 02:15:26.640 --> 02:15:28.119 a lot of. But even if it did less of that, 3133 02:15:28.960 --> 02:15:31.359 I'm not like believing this game is going to suddenly 3134 02:15:31.399 --> 02:15:33.600 win me over, because I think it's going to keep 3135 02:15:33.640 --> 02:15:35.600 doing what it's done so far, which is, here is 3136 02:15:35.640 --> 02:15:37.640 a new idea. Now you're going to take the words 3137 02:15:37.680 --> 02:15:39.960 out of the sentence and put it into a different sentence, 3138 02:15:39.960 --> 02:15:41.800 and that's going to change the level. And I bet 3139 02:15:41.880 --> 02:15:43.279 it's not going to be a whole game of that. 3140 02:15:43.359 --> 02:15:45.399 There's going to be a couple instances of where you 3141 02:15:45.479 --> 02:15:48.119 do that, and I've heard that as well. So kind 3142 02:15:48.159 --> 02:15:49.920 of having a lot of ideas and committing to none 3143 02:15:49.920 --> 02:15:51.960 of them is maybe going to hold this game back 3144 02:15:52.039 --> 02:15:52.279 for me. 3145 02:15:52.800 --> 02:15:55.359 Yep, I think we're very aligned on that. 3146 02:15:55.439 --> 02:15:57.520 Like, honestly, with all the stuff coming out that I'm 3147 02:15:57.600 --> 02:15:59.920 curious to play, and even things we've brought up here 3148 02:16:00.239 --> 02:16:02.079 between Warhammer and Star Wars and things I want to 3149 02:16:02.119 --> 02:16:04.279 go back to, the odds of me wanting to go 3150 02:16:04.399 --> 02:16:06.520 back to Plucky Squire are very low right now. 3151 02:16:07.159 --> 02:16:09.199 I still want to try it. Like I'm at the 3152 02:16:09.439 --> 02:16:12.880 people that are wondering. Yeah, I am scared, like I 3153 02:16:13.000 --> 02:16:14.880 might align with with you just based on what I'm hearing, 3154 02:16:14.920 --> 02:16:16.239 but you know, some people seem into. 3155 02:16:16.079 --> 02:16:16.960 It a lot of pondering. 3156 02:16:16.960 --> 02:16:18.680 It's got an eighty four on Open Critics still, John 3157 02:16:18.720 --> 02:16:21.319 Drake loves it. Yeah, even Greg Miller was bored by it, 3158 02:16:21.359 --> 02:16:22.720 and that guy laws everything. 3159 02:16:23.359 --> 02:16:26.920 He's got a terrible taste. Yeah, yeah, Big Star, Starfield 3160 02:16:26.960 --> 02:16:33.479 Defender Grub. I'm curious about UFO fifteen as well. 3161 02:16:33.760 --> 02:16:38.280 Yeah, just started this same Yeah, and I'm I'm in 3162 02:16:38.399 --> 02:16:42.000 the first game, but I like what they've set up 3163 02:16:42.079 --> 02:16:44.559 immediately where it's like here is you could see all 3164 02:16:44.639 --> 02:16:47.479 fifty games and they have a fake year by them, 3165 02:16:47.520 --> 02:16:49.319 and it goes from like nineteen eighty three to like 3166 02:16:49.479 --> 02:16:53.959 nineteen eighty nine, likes period right any s period. And 3167 02:16:54.120 --> 02:16:56.000 so what they're suggesting here is not suggesting. It is 3168 02:16:56.079 --> 02:16:58.840 like the deliberate like story of the game. The narrative 3169 02:16:58.840 --> 02:17:01.920 of the lore is the UFO fifty was a console 3170 02:17:02.479 --> 02:17:05.520 and or the UFO was maybe a console and it 3171 02:17:05.639 --> 02:17:07.520 existed through this time and the games came out and 3172 02:17:07.559 --> 02:17:09.760 they started this way and they're going to progress and 3173 02:17:09.840 --> 02:17:12.000 some of these games are going to get sequels to 3174 02:17:12.079 --> 02:17:14.319 themselves inside of this. It's a I guess for people 3175 02:17:14.360 --> 02:17:16.319 that don't know, it's a collection of fifty games, but 3176 02:17:16.399 --> 02:17:18.600 it's not like a fifty games in one. It is 3177 02:17:18.760 --> 02:17:21.479 a fake narrative history of these games coming out over 3178 02:17:21.479 --> 02:17:24.239 this period of time, and they are all not many games, 3179 02:17:24.520 --> 02:17:26.520 but like full nes style game. 3180 02:17:26.399 --> 02:17:28.280 Some things that you would find and renting, Like that's 3181 02:17:28.360 --> 02:17:30.680 part of like I've played like the first like four 3182 02:17:30.760 --> 02:17:32.879 games at this point, like we both started playing today, 3183 02:17:32.920 --> 02:17:35.360 I think. And the thing I kind of like about 3184 02:17:35.360 --> 02:17:37.920 it is like some of them kind of suck, and 3185 02:17:38.040 --> 02:17:39.600 I mean that in a way, and that I like 3186 02:17:40.280 --> 02:17:42.680 the first I remember as a kid that had the 3187 02:17:42.799 --> 02:17:45.120 NES and was constantly going to video stores and stuff 3188 02:17:45.120 --> 02:17:48.319 like that and just like looking at Boxer and be like, Okay, 3189 02:17:48.399 --> 02:17:49.680 what is a robo Warrior? 3190 02:17:49.760 --> 02:17:51.159 I'll try this game? What is this thing? 3191 02:17:51.200 --> 02:17:52.479 And then you play it, it's like this is kind 3192 02:17:52.479 --> 02:17:54.239 of confusing and it kind of sucks, but like you 3193 02:17:54.360 --> 02:17:56.520 still have that nostalgia for these games because you just 3194 02:17:56.559 --> 02:17:58.120 played them a lot and you were a kid that 3195 02:17:58.239 --> 02:18:00.719 first game on UFO fifty and around. I'm kind of 3196 02:18:00.719 --> 02:18:02.319 trying to figure out the map. I can't figure out 3197 02:18:02.319 --> 02:18:04.040 where the fuck to go. It's like, okay, my lives 3198 02:18:04.079 --> 02:18:05.239 are as I don't really know. 3199 02:18:05.879 --> 02:18:08.280 Played for a long time, yeah, and all I got 3200 02:18:08.440 --> 02:18:10.840 was eventually I found one chest that would open and 3201 02:18:10.879 --> 02:18:13.000 it gave me fifty bucks. Yeah, and I couldn't I 3202 02:18:13.000 --> 02:18:16.360 couldn't spend it. That's exact same experience. That's the only 3203 02:18:16.959 --> 02:18:19.399 long time, like we searching around so many rooms I 3204 02:18:19.479 --> 02:18:21.959 went into where it's like there are enemies here, maybe 3205 02:18:22.000 --> 02:18:24.040 I can kill some of them, some are too far away. 3206 02:18:24.680 --> 02:18:27.239 They are attacking me, and I have these six lives 3207 02:18:27.360 --> 02:18:28.920 and then if I die, I get a game over. 3208 02:18:29.280 --> 02:18:33.520 It's frustrating, but I think what's going to happen here is, Oh, 3209 02:18:33.600 --> 02:18:35.360 this is like the first game on this system. It 3210 02:18:35.520 --> 02:18:39.000 probably will get a sequel later on in these fifty games, 3211 02:18:39.079 --> 02:18:40.719 and I bet that one will have all these ideas 3212 02:18:40.760 --> 02:18:43.600 that it'll be so much better. And it's like, even 3213 02:18:43.600 --> 02:18:45.360 if that doesn't necessarily happen, there will be a games 3214 02:18:45.360 --> 02:18:47.639 that are like successors in other ways to this, and 3215 02:18:47.719 --> 02:18:49.399 we'll build on these ideas and be different. 3216 02:18:49.639 --> 02:18:51.840 And I find that very cool. 3217 02:18:52.760 --> 02:18:55.440 It reminds me of Retro Game Challenge, which was a 3218 02:18:55.600 --> 02:18:59.200 very similar thing that was a game center CX in 3219 02:18:59.280 --> 02:19:01.559 Japan and it got localized here as Retro Game Challenge, 3220 02:19:01.559 --> 02:19:04.639 where kid is putting he actually gets a teleporty back 3221 02:19:04.680 --> 02:19:06.639 in time, since in front of a console with a 3222 02:19:06.719 --> 02:19:08.920 kid that was during that time might be himself. They 3223 02:19:09.079 --> 02:19:11.159 like have magazines in that game where they read about 3224 02:19:11.159 --> 02:19:12.719 games that are coming out, and then later in the 3225 02:19:12.760 --> 02:19:14.799 game you play those games, and some of them are 3226 02:19:14.840 --> 02:19:17.440 platformers or shooters, and then they get more complicated and 3227 02:19:17.520 --> 02:19:18.920 like one of the last games you play is like 3228 02:19:18.959 --> 02:19:22.440 a full Dragon Quest style RPG. I love that this 3229 02:19:22.520 --> 02:19:25.959 seems like that, but even more even bigger Derek you 3230 02:19:26.360 --> 02:19:29.680 and his friends designing real awesome indie games that exist 3231 02:19:29.760 --> 02:19:32.840 in the eighties. It's such a cool idea, but that 3232 02:19:32.959 --> 02:19:34.040 first game is it sucks? 3233 02:19:34.200 --> 02:19:34.440 Yeah. 3234 02:19:34.639 --> 02:19:38.840 Yeah, It's like I love mini games obviously, or collections 3235 02:19:38.879 --> 02:19:41.159 of games. Like you said, these are not mini games. 3236 02:19:41.200 --> 02:19:42.760 These are things that, like a lot of nys games, 3237 02:19:42.799 --> 02:19:44.799 we're just like, here's this is all you do, you know, 3238 02:19:44.959 --> 02:19:47.120 it's just this, Here's Skykid, and you just that's what 3239 02:19:47.239 --> 02:19:50.280 the game is, you know, And yeah, these are all 3240 02:19:50.479 --> 02:19:53.120 it's not Warrior where it's certainly not like Mario Party 3241 02:19:53.200 --> 02:19:55.319 like mini game types. But I've always loved collections of 3242 02:19:55.399 --> 02:19:59.040 games and this having that theme that like this cohesive 3243 02:19:59.159 --> 02:20:01.360 like okay it is this console and this lore behind 3244 02:20:01.440 --> 02:20:05.200 it and everything. I'm really intrigued by it. It's also 3245 02:20:05.319 --> 02:20:07.040 kind of what I wanted, Like I got so excited 3246 02:20:07.040 --> 02:20:09.639 about the playdate because it's like, Okay, we're gonna have 3247 02:20:09.719 --> 02:20:10.079 a bunch of. 3248 02:20:10.079 --> 02:20:10.840 Weird little games. 3249 02:20:11.159 --> 02:20:12.440 But I get what you're saying, and I've got no 3250 02:20:12.639 --> 02:20:14.360 I've got a play date, And like I still there 3251 02:20:14.399 --> 02:20:16.959 are some very clever things in games that have come 3252 02:20:17.000 --> 02:20:19.280 to that, but overall, it's like I'm not really pulling 3253 02:20:19.319 --> 02:20:20.840 that thing out and charging it every time there's a 3254 02:20:20.840 --> 02:20:23.879 new game or anything. The fact that it's like a 3255 02:20:24.040 --> 02:20:27.760 rare replay for from an alternate universe. 3256 02:20:28.000 --> 02:20:28.440 Yeah, exactly. 3257 02:20:28.440 --> 02:20:31.040 I'm an alternate universe, a different like ANYS competitor that 3258 02:20:31.120 --> 02:20:33.479 only existed in you know, Ireland or something, you know. 3259 02:20:34.959 --> 02:20:37.520 And I'm just having only played four games of it, 3260 02:20:37.680 --> 02:20:41.159 and like all of them they haven't been Like the 3261 02:20:41.200 --> 02:20:43.280 first one is not great, and the second one I 3262 02:20:43.319 --> 02:20:45.360 don't even know if I would i'd call great or anything. 3263 02:20:45.399 --> 02:20:47.879 But it's like I am intrigued to, Like, man, I 3264 02:20:48.079 --> 02:20:49.600 like this concept so much. I think I want to, 3265 02:20:49.680 --> 02:20:52.680 like you can like gold cartridge them by like meeting 3266 02:20:52.719 --> 02:20:55.120 certain objectives, but then you can like cherry red and 3267 02:20:55.239 --> 02:20:57.280 cartridge them by like you know, beating them, beating them 3268 02:20:57.440 --> 02:20:59.479 and having like this built in kind of achievement system. 3269 02:21:00.000 --> 02:21:01.760 Like I kind of just want to like learn all 3270 02:21:01.799 --> 02:21:03.879 these weird games. I think it's such a cool gimmick. 3271 02:21:04.479 --> 02:21:06.440 And I saw up my alley and like you just 3272 02:21:06.479 --> 02:21:08.760 look at screenstets, like the one is clearly like supposed 3273 02:21:08.760 --> 02:21:10.200 to be kind of like a wild guns. 3274 02:21:10.600 --> 02:21:12.120 The one looks like it might me be a bit 3275 02:21:12.360 --> 02:21:15.319 Belda E and that's really cool. So oh yeah, I 3276 02:21:15.479 --> 02:21:16.319 definitely want to play this. 3277 02:21:16.479 --> 02:21:19.559 And like the real suggestion here underlying all this is 3278 02:21:20.360 --> 02:21:21.760 what are they hiding here? Oh? 3279 02:21:22.479 --> 02:21:24.319 Is there stuff like beyond like if I do do 3280 02:21:24.440 --> 02:21:27.239 certain things in these games or like that first game, 3281 02:21:27.319 --> 02:21:28.760 maybe that this is the case with all the games. 3282 02:21:28.879 --> 02:21:31.639 But when you press a start button there's a console 3283 02:21:31.719 --> 02:21:34.760 command thing, the er code like game Genie, and I'm like, 3284 02:21:34.879 --> 02:21:39.360 how do I find those codes that do right? So 3285 02:21:39.440 --> 02:21:41.120 it's like we might be having like a Fez like 3286 02:21:41.200 --> 02:21:44.239 situation here as well, which where that actually doesn't always 3287 02:21:44.319 --> 02:21:44.719 work on me. 3288 02:21:44.760 --> 02:21:46.440 I don't always fall down those those pits. 3289 02:21:46.520 --> 02:21:49.479 But it's like in this case, I think the setting 3290 02:21:49.799 --> 02:21:53.040 is right to sort of catch me with that, and uh, 3291 02:21:53.520 --> 02:21:55.840 I hope it does. And you know, I've already heard 3292 02:21:55.879 --> 02:21:57.399 like some stuff and I'm not going to spoil it here, 3293 02:21:57.479 --> 02:21:58.959 so I won' won't say anything. But it's like, oh, 3294 02:21:59.120 --> 02:22:00.600 I want to play this game right now because I 3295 02:22:00.600 --> 02:22:02.680 want to experience this self myself firsthand. 3296 02:22:03.360 --> 02:22:06.479 It's very very people right to self too. Super UFO fifty. 3297 02:22:06.280 --> 02:22:10.360 Right, Yeah, I wouldn't. I literally wouldn't be surprised. Although 3298 02:22:10.360 --> 02:22:12.760 this game took like eight nine years, so maybe they 3299 02:22:12.799 --> 02:22:14.159 want to do something different games. 3300 02:22:14.440 --> 02:22:19.040 Yeah, yeah, I think we're exactly the same spot, Grub, 3301 02:22:19.079 --> 02:22:20.920 and I'm so excited to play more that that's going 3302 02:22:21.000 --> 02:22:22.600 to be a big plan game for me coming up. 3303 02:22:22.639 --> 02:22:26.040 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Grub. You also. 3304 02:22:27.399 --> 02:22:31.959 You previewed Flight sim Yeah, that's right, and I can 3305 02:22:32.000 --> 02:22:34.879 talk about it here because it's coming out Monday. I 3306 02:22:34.959 --> 02:22:37.600 played I went to the Grand Canyon. I flew a jet, 3307 02:22:37.719 --> 02:22:41.479 a real jet. That was pretty wild. I was in 3308 02:22:41.520 --> 02:22:43.360 a hum Vy tour at like six a m of 3309 02:22:43.479 --> 02:22:45.479 the Grand Canyon and the guy was driving told us 3310 02:22:45.520 --> 02:22:47.440 all about all the people who have ever died in 3311 02:22:47.520 --> 02:22:48.159 the Grand Canyon. 3312 02:22:48.280 --> 02:22:48.959 That was amazing. 3313 02:22:49.879 --> 02:22:51.799 But then I played Flight similar to twenty twenty four, 3314 02:22:52.000 --> 02:22:56.479 and I think it is definitely earning being a sequel. 3315 02:22:56.600 --> 02:22:58.719 Like they, this is not just an update to twenty twenty. 3316 02:22:59.000 --> 02:22:59.799 This is a new game. 3317 02:23:00.360 --> 02:23:02.520 And the real big thing there is that there's a 3318 02:23:02.559 --> 02:23:07.159 couple of things where I think technologically it does actually 3319 02:23:07.200 --> 02:23:10.319 look improved. It especially looks improved whenever you are flying 3320 02:23:10.479 --> 02:23:15.920 near ground level. It's like orders of magnitude more detailed, 3321 02:23:16.360 --> 02:23:18.840 to the point where a lot of these challenges, these 3322 02:23:18.920 --> 02:23:21.000 new challenge modes, they have in there, and here will 3323 02:23:21.040 --> 02:23:25.360 be like fly a helicopter that goes and scoops up 3324 02:23:25.399 --> 02:23:27.399 water from the ocean and you drop it on forest 3325 02:23:27.440 --> 02:23:30.040 fires to put those fires out. Because now the forest 3326 02:23:30.079 --> 02:23:31.799 looks so good, they want to take you closer to 3327 02:23:31.840 --> 02:23:34.319 the ground. And then that leads into a lot of 3328 02:23:34.479 --> 02:23:37.760 the Career mode, which is I think the most gamified 3329 02:23:38.040 --> 02:23:40.760 Microsoft Flight simulator simulator has ever been. Now, they were 3330 02:23:41.040 --> 02:23:43.079 coquick to say this is still a simulator, this is 3331 02:23:43.120 --> 02:23:46.840 not a video game. But everyone, no matter who they were, 3332 02:23:47.120 --> 02:23:48.760 what kind of player they were, they are asking for 3333 02:23:48.959 --> 02:23:51.920 more stuff to do. This is us answering that. And 3334 02:23:52.120 --> 02:23:54.159 everyone that was there at the event went to this 3335 02:23:54.280 --> 02:23:55.920 mode first. For the most part, I actually went to 3336 02:23:55.959 --> 02:23:58.559 the leaderboard chasing mode first, but everyone else went, Yes, 3337 02:23:58.760 --> 02:24:00.920 everyone else went to the career mode first, because I 3338 02:24:01.000 --> 02:24:03.680 think it's like people want to have some guidance, and 3339 02:24:03.959 --> 02:24:07.440 it's this web of First you're gonna get your pilot's license, 3340 02:24:07.479 --> 02:24:09.959 and then you're you're like your private pilot's license. Then 3341 02:24:10.000 --> 02:24:12.319 you're gonna get your commercial pilot's license, and then you're 3342 02:24:12.319 --> 02:24:14.239 gonna be able to take that and choose the next 3343 02:24:14.319 --> 02:24:16.360 thing on this web and you'll have your choice of 3344 02:24:17.079 --> 02:24:19.479 go and fly one of these helicopters that puts out fires, 3345 02:24:19.840 --> 02:24:23.319 or go and fly an F eighteen, And so you'll 3346 02:24:23.319 --> 02:24:25.879 be able to pick and choose, and it's mostly procedurally generated, 3347 02:24:26.239 --> 02:24:28.840 but it's it does feel more guiding and like you 3348 02:24:28.959 --> 02:24:32.280 have objectives so you can explore all these amazing things 3349 02:24:32.399 --> 02:24:35.360 and all these incredible places that they've recreated with their 3350 02:24:35.399 --> 02:24:38.079 what they call their digital twin of the planet Earth. 3351 02:24:38.399 --> 02:24:40.000 And it's like, oh, this is a really good way 3352 02:24:40.079 --> 02:24:42.000 I think to get in a lot more people into 3353 02:24:42.079 --> 02:24:43.840 this game. And I was really impressed with what they did. 3354 02:24:44.079 --> 02:24:46.360 Yeah, because most people I know who well not I 3355 02:24:46.840 --> 02:24:48.920 know a few like diehard fans of twenty twenty, but 3356 02:24:49.680 --> 02:24:50.959 most people I know who dabbled in it. 3357 02:24:51.040 --> 02:24:52.520 We're just doing it for like the tourism. 3358 02:24:53.200 --> 02:24:56.079 Yes, that's literally one of the three groups that they 3359 02:24:56.159 --> 02:24:58.600 mentioned were digital tourists, people who come to the game 3360 02:24:58.639 --> 02:25:02.040 to see different parts of the world and like fly 3361 02:25:02.159 --> 02:25:05.319 to Fiji right exactly around Disney World, Yeah, exactly. 3362 02:25:05.760 --> 02:25:05.959 I was. 3363 02:25:06.000 --> 02:25:08.079 We were visiting the Grand Canyon, and I spent a 3364 02:25:08.120 --> 02:25:09.879 lot of time just like this is cool. I'm gonna 3365 02:25:10.000 --> 02:25:12.079 I'm gonna fly around the Grand Canyon and we I 3366 02:25:12.120 --> 02:25:14.600 took off from the Grand Canyon Airport and I'm like, oh, ship, 3367 02:25:14.680 --> 02:25:16.639 that's literally the resort I'm at right now, and it 3368 02:25:16.680 --> 02:25:18.840 looks completely photo realistic. 3369 02:25:18.879 --> 02:25:19.559 It's really amazing. 3370 02:25:19.799 --> 02:25:22.200 Fackler said the Grand Canyon was kind of lame and boring. 3371 02:25:22.600 --> 02:25:24.440 Yeah, yeah, it doesn't impress him. 3372 02:25:24.479 --> 02:25:27.959 But sorry, So in real life you went to the 3373 02:25:28.000 --> 02:25:28.559 Grand Canyon. 3374 02:25:29.040 --> 02:25:31.280 Yeah, they flew us out to the Grand Canyon. For 3375 02:25:31.920 --> 02:25:33.879 when he says he flew a jet, he means. 3376 02:25:34.040 --> 02:25:37.360 For real hardy, we say for shoot around here. 3377 02:25:37.680 --> 02:25:39.040 Yeah, my mistake. I'm sorry. 3378 02:25:39.440 --> 02:25:43.440 I'm trying to fit in. I uh yeah, that was 3379 02:25:43.520 --> 02:25:48.719 the serious vision jet fly a jet. So the Cyrus 3380 02:25:48.959 --> 02:25:52.000 is a relatively newer They started in the nineties private 3381 02:25:52.079 --> 02:25:55.440 plane manufacturer, and they have several planes in the game, 3382 02:25:55.879 --> 02:25:58.079 and as part of that partnership, it's clear they also 3383 02:25:58.120 --> 02:26:01.120 want to like show off their new were jet powered 3384 02:26:01.200 --> 02:26:06.559 private plane, which is a like six seater small plane 3385 02:26:07.079 --> 02:26:08.520 but with a fucking jet engine. 3386 02:26:11.639 --> 02:26:12.479 We got We got in the. 3387 02:26:12.479 --> 02:26:14.319 Plane and I'm sitting in the back seat because I 3388 02:26:14.319 --> 02:26:15.760 didn't want to go in the pilot's seat first. 3389 02:26:15.799 --> 02:26:16.360 I was getting in there. 3390 02:26:16.360 --> 02:26:18.000 I'm like, okay, let's ae lst go up there, Charlie 3391 02:26:18.000 --> 02:26:18.479 Hall from. 3392 02:26:18.680 --> 02:26:21.479 From actually Charlie must have been here, and. 3393 02:26:21.520 --> 02:26:23.360 He goes he takes the pilot seat first, next to 3394 02:26:23.440 --> 02:26:25.360 the actual pilot that's there, and then he turned to 3395 02:26:25.479 --> 02:26:28.280 Charlie license yeah, and then he's like, but do you 3396 02:26:28.319 --> 02:26:31.719 want to take off? And Charlie took actually did the 3397 02:26:32.399 --> 02:26:34.040 he did the stick. He wasn't doing the rudders and 3398 02:26:34.079 --> 02:26:37.120 he wasn't doing the throttle, but he actually got us 3399 02:26:37.200 --> 02:26:38.719 up in the air and he flew for a few 3400 02:26:38.760 --> 02:26:40.239 minutes and then I got to take over and I 3401 02:26:40.319 --> 02:26:42.440 got to do the big turn back towards the airport, 3402 02:26:42.559 --> 02:26:47.079 and it was it was amazing, very cool. Before that's 3403 02:26:47.120 --> 02:26:49.159 the first time I had my hands on the on 3404 02:26:49.280 --> 02:26:49.719 a stick. 3405 02:26:50.040 --> 02:26:53.040 So I'm assuming it was like a driver's ed car 3406 02:26:53.079 --> 02:26:54.719 where the pilot could take over if you're about to. 3407 02:26:55.760 --> 02:26:59.840 He could have could take the break that he could 3408 02:27:00.040 --> 02:27:01.440 It is the teacher. It's just an eject. 3409 02:27:02.159 --> 02:27:02.360 Yeah. 3410 02:27:03.000 --> 02:27:05.399 Well, there are several cool things about this jet. 3411 02:27:05.520 --> 02:27:07.719 One is there's a giant red button that anyone in 3412 02:27:07.760 --> 02:27:10.399 the plane can reach that is a return to ground 3413 02:27:10.600 --> 02:27:13.479 if the pilot dies, like if he has a heart attack. 3414 02:27:13.879 --> 02:27:15.639 You hit this button and What it does is it 3415 02:27:15.719 --> 02:27:18.120 doesn't like go back to your airport. It finds the 3416 02:27:18.200 --> 02:27:22.520 nearest airport, creates a flight plan, tells the traffic control 3417 02:27:22.799 --> 02:27:25.079 here's what's going on. I'm going to land the plane 3418 02:27:25.120 --> 02:27:28.000 now automatically, and it just lands him. Now if the 3419 02:27:28.120 --> 02:27:31.200 engine fails. There's another big thing you can pull that 3420 02:27:31.399 --> 02:27:35.000 is a whole plane parachute A and they just about 3421 02:27:35.000 --> 02:27:38.719 to say as a joke, it has it and it's 3422 02:27:38.760 --> 02:27:40.719 like what we watched videos of it and it's like 3423 02:27:40.959 --> 02:27:44.680 that looks incredibly. It just works. Apparently it's already saved 3424 02:27:44.760 --> 02:27:46.520 like a lot of lives because they've been doing it 3425 02:27:46.559 --> 02:27:47.120 for the first. 3426 02:27:47.200 --> 02:27:50.360 Comes out of the whole plane and the whole caps, which. 3427 02:27:50.239 --> 02:27:52.399 I want to say is I can't remember what that 3428 02:27:52.719 --> 02:27:55.799 actually stands for, but it's yeah, caps, it's the parachute 3429 02:27:55.840 --> 02:27:58.000 system that but the pea stance for parachute. 3430 02:27:58.079 --> 02:28:01.600 Yes, it does. In the s Stanser system, it's like 3431 02:28:01.680 --> 02:28:06.159 a cabin I don't automatic parachute system. 3432 02:28:06.280 --> 02:28:09.559 Yeah, and it shoots out so like for the prop 3433 02:28:09.639 --> 02:28:11.559 propeller planes, it kind of shoots out the back, so 3434 02:28:11.639 --> 02:28:13.319 at first it like is going nose down, but then 3435 02:28:13.360 --> 02:28:17.079 it like does likely yea the triple dump for the jet. 3436 02:28:17.200 --> 02:28:18.719 It actually comes out of both the front and the 3437 02:28:18.760 --> 02:28:21.520 back and it just lands flat on the ground and 3438 02:28:21.559 --> 02:28:25.120 it's incredible. But he had a stick on his right hand. 3439 02:28:25.159 --> 02:28:26.479 I had the stick on my left hand, and you 3440 02:28:26.520 --> 02:28:28.040 could see like for a little bit he's keeping his 3441 02:28:28.120 --> 02:28:30.520 hand there in case. But then for a while he's 3442 02:28:30.600 --> 02:28:31.959 like talking to the guys in the back, and I'm 3443 02:28:32.000 --> 02:28:34.159 just flying the plane. The thing with these planes is, 3444 02:28:34.280 --> 02:28:36.639 while they are mechanical, they're not fly by wire where 3445 02:28:36.680 --> 02:28:38.120 a computer is like doing a lot of the work 3446 02:28:38.159 --> 02:28:41.840 for you. If you get like if you would try 3447 02:28:41.840 --> 02:28:43.600 to like actually make this plane, like to do a 3448 02:28:43.680 --> 02:28:45.799 loopy loop or something like that, the plane just won't 3449 02:28:45.879 --> 02:28:49.639 let you. It's basically impossible for someone to crash these planes. 3450 02:28:49.680 --> 02:28:50.360 It was really cool. 3451 02:28:50.879 --> 02:28:53.360 Yeah, I would immediately if I got in this copilot seat. 3452 02:28:53.360 --> 02:28:54.639 I turned the pilot, but like, I hope you brought 3453 02:28:54.680 --> 02:28:56.479 your xanax and then try to do a barrel roll. 3454 02:28:57.159 --> 02:28:59.079 Yeah, he tried to do a barrel and it's like 3455 02:28:59.200 --> 02:29:00.879 it takes them that far and then it beeps at 3456 02:29:00.920 --> 02:29:02.959 of me is like nope, in it like leveled it out. 3457 02:29:02.840 --> 02:29:06.040 On Its really similar automation. 3458 02:29:06.920 --> 02:29:08.239 And sailboats sound fucked up. 3459 02:29:09.239 --> 02:29:11.079 Hey, Dan, you're you don't like flying? You want to 3460 02:29:11.200 --> 02:29:12.360 fly a jet? I would do it? 3461 02:29:13.120 --> 02:29:16.079 Would that I would help, like being in control of 3462 02:29:16.120 --> 02:29:16.840 this control. 3463 02:29:17.159 --> 02:29:20.440 I mean, you know what, because for me, it's like 3464 02:29:20.719 --> 02:29:22.399 everyone that's afraid of flying it for the most part, 3465 02:29:22.479 --> 02:29:24.680 seems to be because they're afraid that's gonna crash or something. 3466 02:29:24.719 --> 02:29:27.000 It's like, I have the utmost faith in pilots and 3467 02:29:27.040 --> 02:29:29.360 the technology, and it's like I've never once thought there's 3468 02:29:29.399 --> 02:29:30.879 gonna be a crash or a terrorist incident. 3469 02:29:30.920 --> 02:29:32.440 It's all this I fear of the panic attack. 3470 02:29:32.799 --> 02:29:34.120 That's how I am with some of like the big 3471 02:29:34.239 --> 02:29:36.719 rides I don't like, not afraid I'm gonna get for sure, 3472 02:29:37.040 --> 02:29:40.040 but like playing fights somewilar twenty twenty, Like you know, 3473 02:29:40.120 --> 02:29:41.799 I was like a little wary of planes, and I'm 3474 02:29:41.799 --> 02:29:44.040 pretty good now. But I do think that that did help, 3475 02:29:44.399 --> 02:29:47.559 like actually learning how airplanes, like a. 3476 02:29:47.559 --> 02:29:48.120 Book about that. 3477 02:29:48.440 --> 02:29:49.879 It is nice to know that. It's like, oh, that's 3478 02:29:49.959 --> 02:29:52.719 that sound is probably this you know right exactly? Yeah, 3479 02:29:53.920 --> 02:29:57.159 But the game itself is is really solid. I was 3480 02:29:57.200 --> 02:29:59.559 playing with a hands on throttle and stick a HOTSS 3481 02:29:59.680 --> 02:30:02.799 and Vinnie was there and he was playing with a yoke, 3482 02:30:03.280 --> 02:30:04.559 so he was doing a lot of the big planes, 3483 02:30:04.559 --> 02:30:06.239 and I was flying Fa teen's and stuff like that, 3484 02:30:06.440 --> 02:30:09.360 and it's just it feels really good. 3485 02:30:09.639 --> 02:30:12.200 You can dial it in uh where where like I did. 3486 02:30:12.280 --> 02:30:14.120 I was doing the challenge with the Fa teen, flying 3487 02:30:14.200 --> 02:30:16.239 really like near to the ground in the Grand Canyon, 3488 02:30:16.440 --> 02:30:19.200 going through these gates, and at first I was crashing. 3489 02:30:18.920 --> 02:30:20.559 A lot, and eventually I was on Mavericks shit. 3490 02:30:20.760 --> 02:30:22.559 It was top gun Mavericks shit, and I just got 3491 02:30:22.600 --> 02:30:23.879 to a point where it was like I got through 3492 02:30:23.920 --> 02:30:25.840 this hole. Do you attack the enemy base? I attacked 3493 02:30:25.840 --> 02:30:28.879 the enemy base targeting turn off. I did like, I 3494 02:30:28.920 --> 02:30:30.760 did that cool like air drift and stuff on a 3495 02:30:30.799 --> 02:30:32.399 couple of turns. I felt very cool. 3496 02:30:32.600 --> 02:30:34.520 Everybody looks over at Grub and he's doing that the 3497 02:30:34.719 --> 02:30:35.239 ten geest. 3498 02:30:35.319 --> 02:30:38.799 I was like, yeah, Eric Greenberg did walk behind me, 3499 02:30:38.879 --> 02:30:41.280 and I was like being very like I was gesticulating 3500 02:30:41.360 --> 02:30:43.159 a lot. It's like, damn Grub, and I'm like, that's right, 3501 02:30:43.239 --> 02:30:45.159 fucking stand back, Aaron Greenberg, Dude. 3502 02:30:45.000 --> 02:30:45.440 Did you talk? 3503 02:30:45.520 --> 02:30:47.360 Did did you and Aaron Greenberg talk about me? I 3504 02:30:47.440 --> 02:30:49.120 sat next to him at games Can We didn't, but 3505 02:30:49.159 --> 02:30:51.239 we did everything. We did joke about him throwing me 3506 02:30:51.319 --> 02:30:53.040 off a cliff, so that was fine. 3507 02:30:53.239 --> 02:30:58.079 Yeah, our crazy stunt like game press events back because 3508 02:30:58.120 --> 02:30:59.920 between you're just the middle. 3509 02:31:00.000 --> 02:31:02.879 It's like some classic O seven three sixth era shit. 3510 02:31:03.239 --> 02:31:05.719 Uh me and Jan are doing some crazy shit next week, 3511 02:31:06.200 --> 02:31:09.200 like trips that sound very Surrey and fun separate trips 3512 02:31:09.239 --> 02:31:11.559 to yeah, very separate different things. 3513 02:31:11.639 --> 02:31:14.079 But like, I don't think I know what Jan's doing 3514 02:31:14.159 --> 02:31:14.680 at the time. 3515 02:31:15.319 --> 02:31:17.559 And it's weird. Yeah, I put the medal your man. 3516 02:31:17.639 --> 02:31:18.559 Are we doing this again? 3517 02:31:18.879 --> 02:31:21.520 I could does feel it feels. So I think what's 3518 02:31:21.559 --> 02:31:24.239 happening is is these companies realize. So the way this 3519 02:31:24.319 --> 02:31:26.079 one worked is we were there for the press day 3520 02:31:26.600 --> 02:31:28.360 and there was a foreign press day of the day before, 3521 02:31:28.559 --> 02:31:30.799 and then the day after was going to be the influencers. 3522 02:31:31.120 --> 02:31:33.559 So I think they're like, we can get our money's. 3523 02:31:33.239 --> 02:31:35.719 Worth by doing all of them in one event, back 3524 02:31:35.760 --> 02:31:38.040 to back to back, and it's like, this is actually 3525 02:31:38.079 --> 02:31:39.040 not worth it again, So. 3526 02:31:39.280 --> 02:31:40.959 I wonder who they like the most. One will day 3527 02:31:41.040 --> 02:31:41.680 is their favorite? 3528 02:31:41.760 --> 02:31:44.319 Well, I bet the people that like pay for all 3529 02:31:44.360 --> 02:31:46.040 like the influencers the best, and I bet the people 3530 02:31:46.079 --> 02:31:46.639 who run. 3531 02:31:46.520 --> 02:31:55.000 It like us the best. Just the old guy media people. Yeah, exactly, yeah, 3532 02:31:56.959 --> 02:31:58.559 nodding vigorously. Yeah. 3533 02:31:59.319 --> 02:31:59.520 Yeah. 3534 02:32:00.760 --> 02:32:02.959 But what's we talked about? Summary movies? What's the best 3535 02:32:03.000 --> 02:32:04.120 plane movie ever? Real quick? 3536 02:32:04.200 --> 02:32:04.319 Oh? 3537 02:32:04.639 --> 02:32:07.079 Is the Air Force one? You think it's conn air 3538 02:32:07.639 --> 02:32:08.239 A decision? 3539 02:32:09.799 --> 02:32:15.319 I mean vy based on Airplane Man Executive air Passenger 3540 02:32:15.399 --> 02:32:17.840 fifty seven is really good, awesome. 3541 02:32:18.879 --> 02:32:20.319 I think I min as Air Force one. 3542 02:32:22.479 --> 02:32:25.440 Watched Air Force one about three years ago, and I 3543 02:32:25.559 --> 02:32:28.719 was a little disappointed because, like I forgot how often 3544 02:32:28.760 --> 02:32:31.600 they're going down to like here's Glenn Close, the vice president, 3545 02:32:31.719 --> 02:32:34.559 talking about politics, like no, just have the ass kicking 3546 02:32:34.600 --> 02:32:35.360 president out there. 3547 02:32:35.319 --> 02:32:40.479 Being, you know, president played by Harrison Ford. It's finally 3548 02:32:40.600 --> 02:32:47.000 very good. Finally ejects the terrorist vice president basically in 3549 02:32:47.079 --> 02:32:50.280 the form of Gary Oldman off his plane by punching 3550 02:32:50.319 --> 02:32:51.840 the parachute button on his chest. 3551 02:32:52.239 --> 02:32:55.440 He says, I did love Air Force. He says, is 3552 02:32:55.680 --> 02:32:57.079 get off my get. 3553 02:32:57.440 --> 02:33:02.280 I know it's very good, but I decisions underrated exacut decision. 3554 02:33:02.799 --> 02:33:06.680 Kurt Russell John leg doesn't say that is I'm very 3555 02:33:06.760 --> 02:33:14.840 patriotic for me. Of course, I think the rocket rocket 3556 02:33:15.120 --> 02:33:18.959 is an airplane. It's there's a lot of airplanes in 3557 02:33:19.000 --> 02:33:19.319 that movie. 3558 02:33:19.440 --> 02:33:22.840 That's That's another really good closing line from Harrison Ford. 3559 02:33:23.879 --> 02:33:25.559 Is in knowledge is their treasure? 3560 02:33:26.079 --> 02:33:28.239 No clear and present danger at the very end, have 3561 02:33:28.319 --> 02:33:29.479 you seen clar and present danger? 3562 02:33:30.239 --> 02:33:32.840 Yes, I've seen clear present danger. That's my favorite hacking scene. Dan, 3563 02:33:32.920 --> 02:33:34.120 You've got me with that idiote. 3564 02:33:37.399 --> 02:33:41.120 He says that this guy says like the President says 3565 02:33:41.120 --> 02:33:43.559 to Harrison Ford. He's basically trying to encourage Harrison Ford 3566 02:33:43.600 --> 02:33:45.239 to play along with this cover up, and he says, 3567 02:33:45.840 --> 02:33:48.040 it's the old Potomac two step. It's just how we 3568 02:33:48.159 --> 02:33:50.639 do things, like I'm sorry, mister President, I don't dance, 3569 02:33:50.840 --> 02:33:52.280 and then he leaves the Oval office. 3570 02:33:53.200 --> 02:33:53.639 Pretty good. 3571 02:33:54.200 --> 02:33:57.440 Yeah, I think it's clear President Danger better than Patriot Games. Actually, 3572 02:33:58.239 --> 02:34:00.639 Picture Games is the one about the Irish the IRA. 3573 02:34:00.840 --> 02:34:04.079 Yeah, Richard Harris plays the famous IRA leader and then 3574 02:34:04.200 --> 02:34:07.120 Sean Bean is the villain and Harrison Ford. 3575 02:34:07.120 --> 02:34:10.200 Harris Hunt for the Red October. Hunt for the October 3576 02:34:10.280 --> 02:34:11.040 is by far the best. 3577 02:34:11.959 --> 02:34:14.920 My family, my siblings and I argue about whether Hunt 3578 02:34:14.920 --> 02:34:17.479 for Red October, Clear and Present Danger or Patriot Games 3579 02:34:17.600 --> 02:34:17.959 is better. 3580 02:34:18.159 --> 02:34:21.360 They're all, what, yeah, what about some of some of 3581 02:34:21.440 --> 02:34:23.040 all fears? If people do not care about that one 3582 02:34:23.079 --> 02:34:27.159 anymore that's not there when it came out. Yeah, it's 3583 02:34:27.239 --> 02:34:28.280 that character still, right. 3584 02:34:30.200 --> 02:34:32.719 What about the Chris Pine Jack Ryan one or the 3585 02:34:32.840 --> 02:34:34.239 gym from the Office Jack Bryan. 3586 02:34:35.680 --> 02:34:37.760 Hey, that that first season was pretty good man. 3587 02:34:37.840 --> 02:34:42.159 That Harrison So the Harrison Ford episode of Conan O'Brien 3588 02:34:42.239 --> 02:34:43.920 podcast was really good. 3589 02:34:44.200 --> 02:34:46.959 Very we're always amazing together. 3590 02:34:47.440 --> 02:34:49.840 I adore con Air, so I think I might actually 3591 02:34:50.680 --> 02:34:53.200 I put the Body of the bed. It feels like 3592 02:34:53.280 --> 02:34:54.479 the most me movie ever. 3593 02:34:54.719 --> 02:34:57.879 But it was sandwiched between The Rock and Face Off, 3594 02:34:58.000 --> 02:34:59.959 and I was obsessed with the Rock and face Off 3595 02:35:00.040 --> 02:35:03.000 and Connor. I just liked, you know, I didn't like Conye. Wow, 3596 02:35:03.239 --> 02:35:05.200 it's a lot of I love Connor is a lot 3597 02:35:05.280 --> 02:35:07.520 of funders. I would say, if we're writing out of ten, 3598 02:35:07.920 --> 02:35:10.280 the Rock and face Off are both tens. Conye is 3599 02:35:10.280 --> 02:35:13.000 an eight point five. Were's gone to sixty seconds. I'm 3600 02:35:13.040 --> 02:35:14.559 not a car guy, so I never really cared about 3601 02:35:14.600 --> 02:35:14.799 that one. 3602 02:35:15.399 --> 02:35:17.840 Wow. Well, but oh it's so fun. Oh I think 3603 02:35:17.879 --> 02:35:19.079 a movie is so fun that a car guy. I 3604 02:35:19.399 --> 02:35:19.799 like that movie. 3605 02:35:20.479 --> 02:35:22.520 If I'd say a Rocketeer, if you don't let me 3606 02:35:22.559 --> 02:35:25.159 have Rocketeer, then I'll say pop Gun. 3607 02:35:25.239 --> 02:35:26.840 Maverick Airplane's pretty good. 3608 02:35:27.159 --> 02:35:30.319 I do enjoy the airplane in Au and it's always sunny. 3609 02:35:30.399 --> 02:35:33.639 The Gang Beats Bogs episode you have me watch. They're 3610 02:35:33.840 --> 02:35:36.360 they're just referencing all these movies because they're like Mac 3611 02:35:36.399 --> 02:35:38.360 and Charlie Like. If there's anything that movies like Past 3612 02:35:38.399 --> 02:35:40.760 your fifty seven executive Decision have taught me is that 3613 02:35:40.840 --> 02:35:43.399 there's a hatch I can access to let me freely 3614 02:35:43.479 --> 02:35:44.840 navigate the bowels of the play. 3615 02:35:45.959 --> 02:35:47.200 I'll even say Doctor two. 3616 02:35:47.239 --> 02:35:49.680 I know Diehard two isn't beloved, but Dieheard two does 3617 02:35:49.719 --> 02:35:50.600 some fun playing stuff. 3618 02:35:50.840 --> 02:35:53.719 Can I admit I forgot about I've seen Doc Doc 3619 02:35:53.840 --> 02:35:56.840 one I think ten times. I have never I've seen 3620 02:35:56.920 --> 02:35:59.920 Living Here. Diehard I have never seen any other time 3621 02:36:00.040 --> 02:36:00.639 Hard movie. 3622 02:36:01.959 --> 02:36:06.239 Is incredible. What I heard with the Vengeance is incredible. Mike, 3623 02:36:06.319 --> 02:36:07.319 you take all the noises he wants. 3624 02:36:07.399 --> 02:36:08.280 It's awesome. 3625 02:36:08.680 --> 02:36:12.239 Di Diar two, die Harder Dire Vengeance is the third one, 3626 02:36:12.399 --> 02:36:16.799 and then heard I am admittedly definitely more down on 3627 02:36:16.879 --> 02:36:18.360 that than like ninety percent of people. 3628 02:36:18.719 --> 02:36:21.159 I go one for three, two and I haven't seen five. 3629 02:36:21.719 --> 02:36:24.000 Best you want four two, three, five is one of 3630 02:36:24.000 --> 02:36:24.520 the worst movies. 3631 02:36:24.719 --> 02:36:26.239 That's what I heard Tim Terry say and Tim is 3632 02:36:26.280 --> 02:36:28.040 a huge diehard mark, so I was like, if Tim 3633 02:36:28.120 --> 02:36:29.760 says that, I don't heard? 3634 02:36:30.200 --> 02:36:33.280 No, that was a good another day, good day to 3635 02:36:33.319 --> 02:36:37.520 die heard. I heard another another Day, which is James Bond. Yeah, yeah, 3636 02:36:37.920 --> 02:36:38.959 that's an okay Bond movie. 3637 02:36:39.399 --> 02:36:47.159 Nos, the Invisible Car and the Laser and it has. 3638 02:36:49.040 --> 02:36:51.079 Come back to life with diamond skin. 3639 02:36:51.399 --> 02:36:54.040 Yeah. Movie stupid in a way that I like. Yeah, 3640 02:36:55.399 --> 02:36:57.000 best train movie. Sorry, let's. 3641 02:36:59.040 --> 02:37:02.879 Like Unstoppable Lot under Siege too, I have I'm gonna 3642 02:37:02.879 --> 02:37:06.399 watch Understage two. I Understage one is actually my number 3643 02:37:06.479 --> 02:37:07.600 one guilty pleasure. 3644 02:37:07.639 --> 02:37:08.399 I've never seen one. 3645 02:37:08.399 --> 02:37:10.840 I've only seen Love under Siege one. I watched that 3646 02:37:10.959 --> 02:37:11.760 like twenty times. 3647 02:37:11.840 --> 02:37:14.600 I love it. I've been meaning to rewatch snow Piercer recently. 3648 02:37:14.719 --> 02:37:17.799 That one probably the best. What is it? Trained to 3649 02:37:17.840 --> 02:37:20.479 Busan is the one? Really got the same director? 3650 02:37:20.760 --> 02:37:23.680 Oh wait, we forgot about the plane one done two 3651 02:37:23.799 --> 02:37:24.399 train movies? 3652 02:37:24.799 --> 02:37:27.200 What's that? Bong Joote? Ho? Has he Trained to Busan? 3653 02:37:27.760 --> 02:37:30.719 Snow Piercer too? Right? Yeah? Yeah he ban? 3654 02:37:31.079 --> 02:37:35.280 Yeah, trains are great in movie Train to Busan? 3655 02:37:35.440 --> 02:37:37.719 Why did I think? No? He did not? Oh did 3656 02:37:37.760 --> 02:37:41.159 you see Source Code? Yes? That movie? That's good. Rules 3657 02:37:41.239 --> 02:37:43.760 I love Faculus in it. It's the voice of the father. 3658 02:37:43.959 --> 02:37:46.479 Yes, we forgot when we're talking about planes about money 3659 02:37:46.559 --> 02:37:48.639 playing with Kelsey Grammar and Alex. 3660 02:37:48.479 --> 02:37:53.879 Gonna bring it up an alligator. We also forgot airplane 3661 02:37:54.440 --> 02:38:02.840 no planes like yes, source code unstoppable. What do you 3662 02:38:02.840 --> 02:38:06.760 guys think about Bullet Train saying it? Yeah, there speak 3663 02:38:06.799 --> 02:38:07.200 of a bond. 3664 02:38:07.280 --> 02:38:10.239 That dude in Bullet Train is rumored to be the 3665 02:38:10.319 --> 02:38:12.440 next bond or he I mean, there's the new person. 3666 02:38:12.799 --> 02:38:14.719 Divorce from was like his wife and stuff that was 3667 02:38:14.760 --> 02:38:17.600 apparently like a cradle robbers. She's like much older and 3668 02:38:17.680 --> 02:38:19.600 like was his manager and stuff, and people are very 3669 02:38:19.639 --> 02:38:21.159 happy for him. I know way too much about this guy. 3670 02:38:21.639 --> 02:38:23.120 Can't remember something. 3671 02:38:23.200 --> 02:38:26.520 Taylor Johnson or yeah, Aaron Tarolaylor Johnson he played Quicksilver 3672 02:38:26.639 --> 02:38:28.280 in The Avengers too, or but he. 3673 02:38:28.319 --> 02:38:30.959 Was also in Bullet Train. But there he's like Count Dumbo. 3674 02:38:33.079 --> 02:38:35.840 Why not Casey Jr. Is very prominent in a Casey 3675 02:38:36.000 --> 02:38:36.920 Junior's coming round. 3676 02:38:36.959 --> 02:38:40.680 You're saying this in the Germany Travel money Train with 3677 02:38:41.000 --> 02:38:43.520 Wesley Snipes and Woody Harrelson. 3678 02:38:43.840 --> 02:38:45.920 Why is there a money train and a money plane? 3679 02:38:46.520 --> 02:38:51.000 Money everything automobile? So good? 3680 02:38:51.719 --> 02:38:53.520 Oh sure, But that's everything. That's why it's so good. 3681 02:38:53.799 --> 02:38:56.440 I did not see Murder on the Orient Express. New 3682 02:38:56.479 --> 02:38:59.760 one for Sunrise only has the beginning of the movies 3683 02:38:59.799 --> 02:39:00.319 on trains. 3684 02:39:00.319 --> 02:39:02.079 I don't know if I cared that what Bond was 3685 02:39:02.120 --> 02:39:04.840 it was it Specter that had a big, a big 3686 02:39:04.879 --> 02:39:08.319 second day stopped good trains? I had a train. 3687 02:39:09.440 --> 02:39:13.399 Yeah, oh yeah, that's opening the opening, the opening action 3688 02:39:13.520 --> 02:39:15.280 sequence on the train. I think that was Specter that 3689 02:39:15.399 --> 02:39:17.319 was I do not like the poor Express. I find 3690 02:39:17.360 --> 02:39:19.559 it very upsetting. I do not like that weird motion 3691 02:39:19.719 --> 02:39:25.559 capture express. Really, it's gross. The train scene in studio 3692 02:39:25.680 --> 02:39:32.120 or in one of the best place to train. It's 3693 02:39:32.159 --> 02:39:35.159 just not quite prominent enough train movie. 3694 02:39:35.360 --> 02:39:38.719 But boy, there should be more train movies. I agree. 3695 02:39:38.760 --> 02:39:38.959 Yeah. 3696 02:39:39.399 --> 02:39:43.239 Your favorite caring levels in video games rule the end 3697 02:39:43.280 --> 02:39:45.200 of Gears War One, the end of a Chartered two, 3698 02:39:45.319 --> 02:39:48.479 and Charted Lost. Like, even though it's disappointing, Hitman's train level. 3699 02:39:48.520 --> 02:39:49.920 I just liked that I was on a train, so. 3700 02:39:49.959 --> 02:39:52.680 I gave it a lot. But I was excited I 3701 02:39:52.760 --> 02:39:53.239 was on a tree. 3702 02:39:53.319 --> 02:39:56.000 Ye, wish they were Times Splitter's Future Perfect had a 3703 02:39:56.000 --> 02:39:56.799 train level as well. 3704 02:39:57.920 --> 02:40:02.360 Yeah, Trophies, the Times Splitters PlayStation. I'm about to be 3705 02:40:02.440 --> 02:40:05.399 on a shoot bullet train for the first time soon. 3706 02:40:05.440 --> 02:40:09.440 And I wonder where you're going. Is that not a 3707 02:40:09.520 --> 02:40:17.440 concept that is in many places there's speed trains. 3708 02:40:17.200 --> 02:40:19.760 But yeah, I'm gonna be on a high speed train. 3709 02:40:19.920 --> 02:40:25.000 Could be I'm going to Denmark, but I'm very excited. 3710 02:40:25.319 --> 02:40:28.959 Denmark should be the second place to get Is there 3711 02:40:29.040 --> 02:40:30.040 only one bullet train? 3712 02:40:31.000 --> 02:40:33.639 I think there's one that's referred to as the bullet train. Okay, 3713 02:40:33.719 --> 02:40:37.600 we'll try to figure it out. I'm doing Yeah, I'll 3714 02:40:37.680 --> 02:40:42.479 never tell. Yeah, I'm very excited though, because trains are 3715 02:40:42.520 --> 02:40:42.959 cool as well. 3716 02:40:43.159 --> 02:40:45.360 I'm not gonna ask for favorite car is. 3717 02:40:45.399 --> 02:40:47.879 I'm going to ask if they are in multiple places. 3718 02:40:47.920 --> 02:40:50.280 I'm starting not very many, but they are. I'm in 3719 02:40:50.399 --> 02:40:52.079 one of these. I'm in one of the like under 3720 02:40:52.440 --> 02:40:57.680 you're going to Saudi Arabia fandom. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not. 3721 02:40:57.639 --> 02:41:00.920 Gonna ask what your favorite car movie is. I'm gonna 3722 02:41:00.959 --> 02:41:03.680 ask is there a better car movie than Mad Max, 3723 02:41:03.840 --> 02:41:08.520 Fury Road or Versus Ferrari is like an ultimate dad movie? 3724 02:41:08.559 --> 02:41:10.479 And I'm not even a dad, but I never feel 3725 02:41:10.959 --> 02:41:14.079 more like a dad than when I'm watching Correct Drive. 3726 02:41:16.000 --> 02:41:21.680 Week drives. Okay, this is, like, dude, really a hot take. 3727 02:41:21.799 --> 02:41:26.159 I hated that, Okay, I loved it when I first 3728 02:41:26.200 --> 02:41:28.200 saw it. I watched it all the time. I'm the 3729 02:41:28.319 --> 02:41:30.520 exact demographic. I'm sure you're not surprised I liked it. 3730 02:41:30.639 --> 02:41:32.840 I rewatched it like two years ago. My wife saw 3731 02:41:32.879 --> 02:41:35.239 it for the first time, and maybe it was because 3732 02:41:35.239 --> 02:41:37.159 I was seeing it through her eyes for the first time. 3733 02:41:38.079 --> 02:41:41.920 That movie is a bit cringey now really, yeah, I bet, 3734 02:41:41.959 --> 02:41:43.559 I bet it's tough. 3735 02:41:43.719 --> 02:41:44.680 So many of the scenes are just. 3736 02:41:44.920 --> 02:41:48.639 Is it Carrie Fisher, Kerry Mulligan and Ryan Gosling staring 3737 02:41:48.680 --> 02:41:51.200 at each other? And then I think that soundtrack has 3738 02:41:51.280 --> 02:41:55.000 become so like has been so many times the real yeah. 3739 02:41:56.600 --> 02:41:56.840 Point. 3740 02:41:57.200 --> 02:41:59.479 But we rewatched Baby Driver a few weeks ago. 3741 02:41:59.479 --> 02:42:02.360 I hated that. I hate it. Baby Driver is amazing. 3742 02:42:02.479 --> 02:42:04.479 I loved it this time. I don't like that. 3743 02:42:04.719 --> 02:42:06.799 I was on board for what it was doing, the energy, 3744 02:42:06.959 --> 02:42:09.239 the fucking just like you do. 3745 02:42:09.319 --> 02:42:09.879 Have to get on board. 3746 02:42:10.360 --> 02:42:12.040 Just trying to show off is like who's my playlist. 3747 02:42:12.079 --> 02:42:13.600 It's like a guy at a party who's like, check 3748 02:42:13.600 --> 02:42:15.840 out my music, based you know, I don't. 3749 02:42:15.920 --> 02:42:16.239 I don't. 3750 02:42:16.360 --> 02:42:20.680 I generally don't like anse Algre but the movie you 3751 02:42:20.840 --> 02:42:21.520 just was so. 3752 02:42:23.079 --> 02:42:25.399 Can like that I couldn't help. Yeah. 3753 02:42:26.000 --> 02:42:29.159 I like Rush the not for for versus far the 3754 02:42:29.200 --> 02:42:32.120 other racing movie about like the Australian guy and the 3755 02:42:32.200 --> 02:42:36.040 German guy. Yeah, Rush is is a really good racing movie. 3756 02:42:36.200 --> 02:42:36.879 I'll just say again. 3757 02:42:36.920 --> 02:42:40.360 I do like Gone sixty Seconds a lot past and 3758 02:42:40.399 --> 02:42:42.440 Furious obviously speed Racer. 3759 02:42:42.520 --> 02:42:43.799 Speed Racer is actually probably the best. 3760 02:42:44.239 --> 02:42:45.680 That's one that I haven't seen that I bet I 3761 02:42:45.719 --> 02:42:49.159 would love. I never saw either of the Italian Jobs, 3762 02:42:49.200 --> 02:42:52.200 and I know those are well, but like the Italian Job, 3763 02:42:52.399 --> 02:42:53.600 death Proof is kind of fun. 3764 02:42:54.520 --> 02:42:58.319 Actually. My favorite car movie is Tucker the Man in 3765 02:42:58.399 --> 02:43:01.200 His Dream with Jeff Bridges, about the Tucker Car company 3766 02:43:01.319 --> 02:43:03.840 that was in Chicago and they like how the Detroit 3767 02:43:03.840 --> 02:43:07.920 automakers like shut it down. It's yeah, Francis Port Copla 3768 02:43:08.280 --> 02:43:10.399 very much, dad movie. Anytime it was on TV, I 3769 02:43:10.440 --> 02:43:15.040 would watch it, and yeah, I love Tucker where it's like, yeah, 3770 02:43:15.200 --> 02:43:17.239 oh I see it's on where it's like I will 3771 02:43:17.280 --> 02:43:19.159 sometimes be like I'm gonna go watch that on my 3772 02:43:19.239 --> 02:43:21.040 Plex and just put on Tucker and what that would 3773 02:43:21.040 --> 02:43:21.399 be my night? 3774 02:43:21.479 --> 02:43:24.319 Did anybody see the Ferrari movie? Yeah, yeah, it's good. 3775 02:43:24.440 --> 02:43:27.079 It's good. Oh, it's I haven't like Michael Good. It's 3776 02:43:27.079 --> 02:43:27.559 a bit weird. 3777 02:43:27.559 --> 02:43:30.200 It has like it's mostly just a drama with like 3778 02:43:30.520 --> 02:43:32.559 sudden bursts of extreme violence. 3779 02:43:32.600 --> 02:43:35.440 Oh there's one part where it's like, oh my god, Okay, 3780 02:43:35.840 --> 02:43:37.479 that was a shocking, pretty shocking. 3781 02:43:37.639 --> 02:43:43.040 Yeah, well grand Turismo overall, how how would you forget? Yeah? 3782 02:43:44.120 --> 02:43:46.159 I should have made that joke about Aaron Paul's need 3783 02:43:46.280 --> 02:43:46.760 for seed. 3784 02:43:47.079 --> 02:43:51.719 Yeah, I love Drive Angry that Nicolas Marty's probably right, 3785 02:43:51.760 --> 02:43:54.239 it's probably, it's actually probably. 3786 02:43:54.479 --> 02:43:58.040 I was gonna watch Furiosa on a plane recently. I 3787 02:43:58.079 --> 02:43:59.200 didn't watch Good was. 3788 02:44:00.799 --> 02:44:04.120 Seven, and there was h every once in a while 3789 02:44:04.159 --> 02:44:06.600 I had to like look around to make sure people 3790 02:44:06.639 --> 02:44:08.120 weren't looking at my screen. 3791 02:44:08.360 --> 02:44:09.280 I love seven. 3792 02:44:09.399 --> 02:44:13.399 Oh it's awesome. It's just like there's some very ships airplane. 3793 02:44:13.879 --> 02:44:16.600 Like that's not like generally my thing, like a seven, right, 3794 02:44:16.760 --> 02:44:20.239 like kind of like uh, but like I like seven, 3795 02:44:20.399 --> 02:44:26.879 I get it, sevens of nine. It's like the five 3796 02:44:26.959 --> 02:44:30.440 of seven you gave, don't Yeah, my favorite rating skill. 3797 02:44:33.000 --> 02:44:37.680 Yeah, there there's a there's probably more cars. Cars. Oh, cars. 3798 02:44:38.079 --> 02:44:42.600 Cars one's five, Cars two is terrible, Cars three surprisingly fine. 3799 02:44:44.399 --> 02:44:48.200 Cars two is just Uh, it's a spy movie starring 3800 02:44:48.280 --> 02:44:50.959 the comedic sidekick for the last movie, who, as a 3801 02:44:51.239 --> 02:44:56.719 dupest comedic sidekick, is incapable of character growth, so like he's. 3802 02:44:56.639 --> 02:44:58.879 Just kind of stumbling through situates. 3803 02:44:58.959 --> 02:45:01.959 It's a bad It's like a whole episode of Mister Magoo. 3804 02:45:02.399 --> 02:45:03.959 But that's a future show. It really is. 3805 02:45:04.399 --> 02:45:07.360 It's like I like the live action this too Magoo. 3806 02:45:07.680 --> 02:45:12.760 Yeah, way, all right, you guys want to do emails? 3807 02:45:12.920 --> 02:45:16.799 Oh sure, sure, I guess so, yeah, okay. As always, 3808 02:45:16.799 --> 02:45:19.319 you can write into firescape cast at gmail dot com. 3809 02:45:19.600 --> 02:45:22.280 There is fire Escape Cast at gmail dot com, but 3810 02:45:22.440 --> 02:45:25.639 he questions, comments, concerns, corrections for Dan and Mary. 3811 02:45:25.879 --> 02:45:28.399 Uh. I don't ever need corrections, so don't worry about that. 3812 02:45:29.840 --> 02:45:32.319 But if you want tolkoto on Twitter, just send in 3813 02:45:32.440 --> 02:45:32.680 that one. 3814 02:45:32.799 --> 02:45:35.360 Yes, the ones from a hearty send to Mike Manatti. 3815 02:45:35.440 --> 02:45:39.520 Yes you can sending questions we've read on air we 3816 02:45:39.600 --> 02:45:44.840 have tonight. The first is from Katie from Knoxville High 3817 02:45:44.920 --> 02:45:49.200 fire Escapators. I love listening to you all every couple 3818 02:45:49.239 --> 02:45:52.239 of weeks. I've recently been playing Kingdom Hearts two again. 3819 02:45:52.719 --> 02:45:54.520 I'm fascinated by the story, but have a hard time 3820 02:45:54.559 --> 02:45:56.959 piecing it together after bits of combat. I tend to 3821 02:45:57.000 --> 02:46:00.840 forget once I'm actively playing replay. The game was spurred 3822 02:46:00.840 --> 02:46:03.079 by Snowbike mic from Kind of Funny and his Kingdom 3823 02:46:03.120 --> 02:46:05.840 Hearts playthroughs. I've started looking into books that explain the 3824 02:46:05.840 --> 02:46:07.479 Lord because I tend to remember more about a story 3825 02:46:07.479 --> 02:46:10.360 if I read it. So my question is, has a 3826 02:46:10.440 --> 02:46:13.200 story from a series or franchise ever intrigued you so 3827 02:46:13.399 --> 02:46:15.399 much that you want to inhale as much of the 3828 02:46:15.440 --> 02:46:18.600 lore as possible. Also, I guess this would be more 3829 02:46:18.639 --> 02:46:21.440 for Minati, but they didn't say that specifically. But also, 3830 02:46:21.520 --> 02:46:23.959 if you have rex for good reading material for Kingdom Hearts, 3831 02:46:24.399 --> 02:46:25.479 I'm here for it again. 3832 02:46:25.600 --> 02:46:26.159 Love you guys. 3833 02:46:26.399 --> 02:46:27.760 That is Katie from Knoxville. 3834 02:46:29.479 --> 02:46:33.600 Huh So, in terms of reading material for for Kingdom Hearts, 3835 02:46:34.440 --> 02:46:37.440 there is like a manga version of I think most 3836 02:46:37.479 --> 02:46:39.959 of the games or manga excuse me, so, uh, I 3837 02:46:40.040 --> 02:46:46.840 was gonna set that upting Everybody yet a triple dump. 3838 02:46:52.840 --> 02:46:54.120 So you know, if you play, if you read that, 3839 02:46:54.239 --> 02:46:56.159 you kind of take it at its own pace and 3840 02:46:56.280 --> 02:46:58.840 it's a little bit different. So that's fun funny. They 3841 02:46:58.879 --> 02:47:01.000 brought up that snow Bike Mike extreme because it is 3842 02:47:01.760 --> 02:47:02.719 it's good funny. 3843 02:47:03.520 --> 02:47:05.520 If you want to get into the lore, just go 3844 02:47:05.639 --> 02:47:09.280 watch one of the incredibly long YouTube videos ones. 3845 02:47:09.120 --> 02:47:11.520 That also like do explain the lore, but they're very 3846 02:47:11.680 --> 02:47:14.639 funny too, So those are those are a good way 3847 02:47:14.680 --> 02:47:18.799 of doing it. Yeah, I get get a little bit 3848 02:47:18.879 --> 02:47:21.360 into the lore of some things. I mean, even still, 3849 02:47:21.399 --> 02:47:23.239 even though I love Lord of the Rings and know 3850 02:47:23.360 --> 02:47:25.399 a lot of it, there are some very good Lord 3851 02:47:25.399 --> 02:47:27.360 of the Rings lord channels and the Lord there goes 3852 02:47:27.440 --> 02:47:31.000 so deep right into things that like you know, are 3853 02:47:31.079 --> 02:47:33.000 more in the summer, really in and whatnot. So I 3854 02:47:33.120 --> 02:47:36.000 love those little lore videos about middle or still. But 3855 02:47:36.079 --> 02:47:38.120 I did like a few for Elden Ring when when 3856 02:47:38.200 --> 02:47:41.799 that was happening. I know, some of those were very popular, 3857 02:47:42.719 --> 02:47:45.120 super deep in there. Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say 3858 02:47:45.159 --> 02:47:45.799 from Software. 3859 02:47:45.799 --> 02:47:48.639 I mean it's also a result of how from Software 3860 02:47:48.760 --> 02:47:52.440 tells their stories. They they intentionally are obfuscating most of 3861 02:47:52.520 --> 02:47:54.719 it and then drift feeding in items and just like 3862 02:47:54.879 --> 02:48:00.440 passing conversations. But yeah, there's there's vati video does really stuff. 3863 02:48:00.440 --> 02:48:03.159 And then two more way back in the day turned 3864 02:48:03.200 --> 02:48:08.000 me onto uh, who was the one that does the bloodborn? 3865 02:48:08.639 --> 02:48:08.760 Uh? 3866 02:48:11.040 --> 02:48:13.920 I don't know, I'll find it, but there's there's Yeah, 3867 02:48:13.959 --> 02:48:19.959 I think it's Batividia okay, but yeah, from software I 3868 02:48:20.000 --> 02:48:22.399 got really obsessed with. The obvious answer is like I 3869 02:48:22.719 --> 02:48:25.559 wasn't into Warhammer until I played Total War Warhammer two. 3870 02:48:25.959 --> 02:48:26.760 I didn't play the first. 3871 02:48:26.840 --> 02:48:29.200 I demoed the first game for a preview for game 3872 02:48:29.239 --> 02:48:31.879 Spot and that I had never played a Total War before, 3873 02:48:32.799 --> 02:48:36.120 embarrassed myself, and then played two, and then at that 3874 02:48:36.200 --> 02:48:38.920 point went back to the historical games. But that's what 3875 02:48:39.000 --> 02:48:42.239 got me into Warhammer Fantasy because I'm seeing every unit 3876 02:48:42.319 --> 02:48:44.719 from the tabletop game in their digital form. 3877 02:48:45.000 --> 02:48:49.440 But they got you into Warhammer and Total War Yes, wow, Yeah, 3878 02:48:49.600 --> 02:48:53.360 the potent. Yeah, there's a reason that. 3879 02:48:53.559 --> 02:48:56.280 That's like all I talk and think about sometimes, because 3880 02:48:56.559 --> 02:48:59.120 both of those things are pretty complex things to dive into. 3881 02:48:59.520 --> 02:49:01.360 Talking about it. Yeah, I don't know. 3882 02:49:01.440 --> 02:49:03.239 I don't know what I was thinking. I just kind 3883 02:49:03.239 --> 02:49:05.360 of I usually keep my interest to myself and don't 3884 02:49:05.799 --> 02:49:06.520 rave about them. 3885 02:49:08.639 --> 02:49:08.879 I can. 3886 02:49:09.000 --> 02:49:11.120 I can help you out though. The Lawer's not that confusing. 3887 02:49:11.319 --> 02:49:12.280 And Kingdom hearts too. 3888 02:49:13.520 --> 02:49:16.399 You know when when Sora stabbed himself with Riku's key 3889 02:49:16.479 --> 02:49:20.159 blade in Hollow Bastion uh and released his heartless that 3890 02:49:20.239 --> 02:49:23.440 also simultaneously created his nobody Roxis. 3891 02:49:23.959 --> 02:49:24.040 Uh. 3892 02:49:24.200 --> 02:49:26.319 So then Roxis kind of woke up on his own 3893 02:49:26.399 --> 02:49:29.639 and ended up joining Organization thirteen, whose goal was to 3894 02:49:29.760 --> 02:49:33.040 assemble Kingdom Hearts so that they could find their own hearts, 3895 02:49:33.040 --> 02:49:34.719 because because they didn't have any. 3896 02:49:34.799 --> 02:49:38.319 To be clear, heartless have hearts. Nobodies don't have much. 3897 02:49:39.840 --> 02:49:39.959 Too. 3898 02:49:40.120 --> 02:49:42.639 Begins with your Roxis and you're in You're in this 3899 02:49:42.840 --> 02:49:45.239 like Bizarro sun drenched town and you're eating these. 3900 02:49:45.159 --> 02:49:48.040 Blue popsicles, and it turns out you're in a computer 3901 02:49:48.120 --> 02:49:49.479 simulation of Mike. 3902 02:49:49.559 --> 02:49:53.000 Listen, you have three sentences sum up the trilogy of 3903 02:49:53.319 --> 02:49:56.959 Kingdom Hearts. Uh, the power of friendship wins. 3904 02:49:57.040 --> 02:50:01.159 I only need one. Roxis is Sora with an X true? 3905 02:50:02.040 --> 02:50:05.079 Is that like evil Sora? No, not evil? The fact 3906 02:50:05.120 --> 02:50:08.760 he's pretty cool. We like rocks. Max is good. I 3907 02:50:08.879 --> 02:50:10.959 have very fond memories of Kingdom. 3908 02:50:12.000 --> 02:50:15.159 That is so man Honestly, Marty, It's been so long 3909 02:50:15.239 --> 02:50:19.280 since I've talked to somebody, and I still like Cam 3910 02:50:19.440 --> 02:50:21.559 who likes king I spell. 3911 02:50:21.399 --> 02:50:25.680 Rock six again r O x A s I Kingdom 3912 02:50:25.719 --> 02:50:28.360 Hearts one and two I had I my fevorite. 3913 02:50:28.360 --> 02:50:31.840 I never played three. Three is fun. It's it's a 3914 02:50:31.879 --> 02:50:34.159 little easy, and the story does get very stupid. 3915 02:50:34.360 --> 02:50:39.799 Wars no stars will probably be Yeah, in the one 3916 02:50:39.840 --> 02:50:42.239 that trailers they show like for a second, what looks 3917 02:50:42.280 --> 02:50:45.440 like endors, So it'll probably before King two is definitely 3918 02:50:45.440 --> 02:50:46.399 just one of my favorite games ever. 3919 02:50:46.479 --> 02:50:47.719 I actually legitimately love it. 3920 02:50:47.760 --> 02:50:50.680 What's Kingdom Hearts one gets going? It's phenomenal. Also, I 3921 02:50:50.760 --> 02:50:53.559 still listen to Traverstown music everyone. 3922 02:50:53.319 --> 02:50:55.639 So those soundtracks, Like even Jeff will have to give 3923 02:50:55.680 --> 02:50:58.440 respect to the soundtracks because you love Memora. 3924 02:50:58.719 --> 02:51:01.120 Yes, you know, I write that it's a really good soundtrack. 3925 02:51:01.440 --> 02:51:02.079 I like the lote. 3926 02:51:03.040 --> 02:51:05.440 I just didn't enjoy playing that game composed. I got 3927 02:51:05.600 --> 02:51:06.680 frustrated very often. 3928 02:51:07.000 --> 02:51:09.559 Mahardy, have you hidden this for this long that I 3929 02:51:09.680 --> 02:51:11.600 had no idea you'd even played Kingdom. 3930 02:51:11.360 --> 02:51:15.200 Hert I contain multitudes and you don't I know that 3931 02:51:15.440 --> 02:51:19.159 told you know that talking he's like talking about experimenting 3932 02:51:19.200 --> 02:51:20.319 with Krack in college. 3933 02:51:20.639 --> 02:51:22.319 What It makes me a little consplained. 3934 02:51:22.440 --> 02:51:25.760 What but yeah, I've never heard. You've made some very 3935 02:51:25.840 --> 02:51:28.639 popular series. Lots of people have played Kingdom Heart. It 3936 02:51:28.760 --> 02:51:29.760 doesn't make it okay. 3937 02:51:30.319 --> 02:51:33.399 There is a fervor among Kingdom Hearts fans that I 3938 02:51:33.600 --> 02:51:35.760 look I get being a big fan of a franchise 3939 02:51:35.840 --> 02:51:37.959 and stuff, But I have been in the same room 3940 02:51:38.000 --> 02:51:40.719 as people when like a new Kingdom Hearts trailer is announced. 3941 02:51:41.200 --> 02:51:42.319 Their reaction to it. 3942 02:51:42.559 --> 02:51:45.280 Is like, it's not like this who doesn't Reddit? 3943 02:51:45.440 --> 02:51:45.920 Is not like. 3944 02:51:48.040 --> 02:51:52.280 I understand excitement. I've certainly make if you showed a 3945 02:51:52.360 --> 02:51:54.559 new metal gear or something. I've been oh ship, that's Naiomi, 3946 02:51:54.680 --> 02:51:56.559 that's this, Oh my god, Righting's got this or whatever. 3947 02:51:56.840 --> 02:52:00.840 But I have seen people have like, uh reactions that 3948 02:52:00.920 --> 02:52:02.479 are religious experiences. 3949 02:52:04.520 --> 02:52:08.079 Way beyond like I cried the Twilight Princess did those 3950 02:52:08.120 --> 02:52:08.879 type of reactions. 3951 02:52:08.959 --> 02:52:10.719 You know, I'm not at that level. 3952 02:52:10.760 --> 02:52:13.959 I just really for a while I had a Kingdom Hearts, 3953 02:52:14.319 --> 02:52:18.000 like Kingdom Hearts one and two, especially one I I 3954 02:52:18.399 --> 02:52:19.799 think I've played three times. 3955 02:52:20.760 --> 02:52:22.680 I really enjoyed it. What is it? 3956 02:52:22.799 --> 02:52:24.520 You're not a Disney guy? What's your deal here? 3957 02:52:25.840 --> 02:52:26.120 I don't know. 3958 02:52:26.239 --> 02:52:28.840 Good ACTIONPG is once once they get out of their 3959 02:52:28.879 --> 02:52:31.079 own way and they stop stopping the game every ten 3960 02:52:31.159 --> 02:52:37.840 minutes for a cutscene, they the action gets pretty satisfying. 3961 02:52:38.040 --> 02:52:41.959 The like actual like building out your your party is fun. 3962 02:52:42.559 --> 02:52:46.280 The boss battles, the scale and the scope are really impressive. 3963 02:52:47.639 --> 02:52:51.040 In your team. The game like has a really good 3964 02:52:51.319 --> 02:52:54.719 sense of like atmosphere everywhere you go. 3965 02:52:55.040 --> 02:52:57.360 And I don't matter Prime, I'm sure. Yeah, it's the 3966 02:52:57.879 --> 02:53:02.959 prime of Yeah Action RP Withcdonald Duck. And then I'm 3967 02:53:03.000 --> 02:53:04.559 not like a. 3968 02:53:04.680 --> 02:53:07.639 Diehard of them. But Kingdom Heart's one. I for a while, 3969 02:53:07.719 --> 02:53:09.399 I think I considered one of my favorite games, but 3970 02:53:09.399 --> 02:53:09.600 I'm not. 3971 02:53:10.000 --> 02:53:12.479 I don't know, it's weird. I'm not a Kingdom Hearts person. 3972 02:53:14.000 --> 02:53:15.799 I understand. I mean, look it definitely. 3973 02:53:16.639 --> 02:53:19.440 I understand people fell off after two when it was 3974 02:53:19.520 --> 02:53:22.360 like five spin offs that like you thought you didn't 3975 02:53:22.360 --> 02:53:24.040 have to play because they didn't have the number three 3976 02:53:24.079 --> 02:53:26.559 on there. It turns yeah, then it turns out that 3977 02:53:26.600 --> 02:53:29.159 they're all super integral to the story. And the story 3978 02:53:29.280 --> 02:53:32.399 kept getting more and more complicated with dream drop Distance, 3979 02:53:32.719 --> 02:53:35.639 introduced time travel. It was kind of a oh, come 3980 02:53:35.719 --> 02:53:39.360 on in year twelve, I played it like a pretty 3981 02:53:39.440 --> 02:53:44.200 early three DS game, Yeah, Drop D Yeah, three D's 3982 02:53:44.239 --> 02:53:45.000 the three Dumps. 3983 02:53:45.319 --> 02:53:45.520 Yeah. 3984 02:53:49.559 --> 02:53:52.399 I can't relate to lower video games getting more complicated 3985 02:53:52.440 --> 02:53:54.200 as it goes on. Anyway, my answer to this question 3986 02:53:54.280 --> 02:53:58.639 is Meddle, You're solid. That is the only answer to 3987 02:53:58.680 --> 02:54:00.719 this question. Even Zelda would is part of like my 3988 02:54:00.799 --> 02:54:03.239 holy turn of the is Mario Zelda Middle Gear. People 3989 02:54:03.319 --> 02:54:06.360 talk about, oh so you Zelda time. Yeah, I know, uh, 3990 02:54:08.520 --> 02:54:09.559 like the underground bands, like. 3991 02:54:09.520 --> 02:54:10.079 The beatle. 3992 02:54:11.719 --> 02:54:14.239 Making games and we don't talk about this enough. Nintendo. 3993 02:54:14.680 --> 02:54:19.440 Yeah, Nintendo makes some good ones. Yeah so, but like Zella, 3994 02:54:19.479 --> 02:54:21.479 I don't give a shit about the lore. I've never cared. 3995 02:54:21.520 --> 02:54:24.520 I've never carried this link to gamesless and I don't 3996 02:54:24.520 --> 02:54:26.120 think of any of these I care about the Lord. 3997 02:54:26.280 --> 02:54:26.319 No. 3998 02:54:26.479 --> 02:54:28.200 The only one is Metal Gear, and that's the one 3999 02:54:28.200 --> 02:54:30.000 where it's like, oh, there's like a little book in 4000 02:54:30.159 --> 02:54:32.079 the first one that in the darkness of Shadow Moses 4001 02:54:32.079 --> 02:54:33.680 And I'm gonna read every word of this. I'm gonna 4002 02:54:33.680 --> 02:54:36.719 read like breakdowns of like I've beaten Meddle Year Saw 4003 02:54:36.799 --> 02:54:38.639 too so many times by the time I read this 4004 02:54:38.760 --> 02:54:41.079 like Junker HQ thing, which is like a whole thing 4005 02:54:41.120 --> 02:54:43.200 about the symbolism and what this game meant to be, Like, 4006 02:54:43.239 --> 02:54:44.840 oh my god, this is like blowing my mind what 4007 02:54:44.920 --> 02:54:45.680 this is actually doing. 4008 02:54:46.879 --> 02:54:47.360 Middle Year. 4009 02:54:47.440 --> 02:54:49.639 I want to go all the way in on all 4010 02:54:49.719 --> 02:54:53.600 the time, uh and literally with nothing else, although war 4011 02:54:53.719 --> 02:54:54.959 hammers tickling something with me. 4012 02:54:55.079 --> 02:54:56.959 Yeah, yeah, warmers, the maybe closer much? 4013 02:54:57.399 --> 02:54:59.120 How much do you love just like that timeline at 4014 02:54:59.120 --> 02:55:01.399 the end of the middle yourself four? Right, Oh there's 4015 02:55:01.399 --> 02:55:01.559 the one. 4016 02:55:01.600 --> 02:55:03.479 There was a separate app you could download on the 4017 02:55:03.559 --> 02:55:05.559 PS three that was just a timeline that you could 4018 02:55:05.600 --> 02:55:07.239 just go around and then see like, okay this one 4019 02:55:07.280 --> 02:55:09.440 Osla did this and oh it's the best shit. 4020 02:55:09.840 --> 02:55:12.360 Jeff. Have you ever cared about Lawer outside of Star 4021 02:55:12.399 --> 02:55:15.920 Wars for anything? No? 4022 02:55:16.239 --> 02:55:16.280 Not? 4023 02:55:16.479 --> 02:55:17.799 I mean I like, I. 4024 02:55:17.879 --> 02:55:20.040 Played Armored Course six and that didn't make me care 4025 02:55:20.040 --> 02:55:22.680 about I really like the story in that game. I 4026 02:55:22.760 --> 02:55:23.959 know a lot of people like dismiss it, but I 4027 02:55:23.959 --> 02:55:27.000 think it's incredible, really good storytelling. 4028 02:55:27.079 --> 02:55:29.040 I thought it was really right at my alley. 4029 02:55:29.040 --> 02:55:31.319 And a lot of that is like I always think 4030 02:55:31.319 --> 02:55:32.799 about that moment where it's like you get hired to 4031 02:55:32.840 --> 02:55:34.760 do a mission and then you go down a corridor 4032 02:55:35.200 --> 02:55:37.360 and then all the invisible people that hired you to 4033 02:55:37.360 --> 02:55:39.639 do the mission actually attack you instead, and it's like, 4034 02:55:39.719 --> 02:55:41.440 oh that rules, and then you have to like six 4035 02:55:41.520 --> 02:55:43.760 that the battle against them. You have to fight your 4036 02:55:43.760 --> 02:55:45.760 way out of that corridor, and I'm like, this is 4037 02:55:45.879 --> 02:55:47.920 good ship. And then that made me really want to 4038 02:55:47.920 --> 02:55:50.000 be like, understand, what's going on that story. But that 4039 02:55:50.159 --> 02:55:52.239 led me to like, I think I'm gonna watch Gundam 4040 02:55:52.879 --> 02:55:55.520 I do that sort of thing. I and then like, 4041 02:55:56.000 --> 02:55:58.920 not lore, this is just history. But Forgotten City and 4042 02:55:59.079 --> 02:56:02.799 Pentiment both made be like interested more in like history, what. 4043 02:56:02.879 --> 02:56:05.719 About uh fucking Golden Idol and stuff like that where 4044 02:56:05.719 --> 02:56:07.559 you have to kind of learn the lore of the game. 4045 02:56:07.600 --> 02:56:09.399 It's not a historical thing, but like you have to 4046 02:56:09.479 --> 02:56:10.920 know like this family history. 4047 02:56:11.159 --> 02:56:14.159 Because that's like anything where it's like that's that's also 4048 02:56:14.239 --> 02:56:16.000 like Pentiment and stuff like that, any game where it's 4049 02:56:16.040 --> 02:56:19.440 like the the ongoings of the world are part of 4050 02:56:19.639 --> 02:56:21.600 how you need to think about the game to understand 4051 02:56:21.600 --> 02:56:22.239 the mechanics. 4052 02:56:22.600 --> 02:56:23.040 I love that. 4053 02:56:23.479 --> 02:56:26.239 Fuck am I blanking on the murder mystery on the ship? 4054 02:56:26.920 --> 02:56:32.639 Oh you Overden? Yeah, yeah, twelve minutes has come up 4055 02:56:32.639 --> 02:56:36.479 the last three episodes in a row, and it's always stories. 4056 02:56:38.200 --> 02:56:40.399 Tells me that all the time. That's my thing. 4057 02:56:52.520 --> 02:56:58.239 Well, I had something else, uh just another related No, 4058 02:56:58.360 --> 02:57:00.799 another game came to mind that the lore I got into. 4059 02:57:01.040 --> 02:57:03.520 I used to care. I used to kind of care 4060 02:57:03.559 --> 02:57:07.399 about warcraft lore for a bit there. Then Shadowlands jump 4061 02:57:07.479 --> 02:57:09.799 jumped the ship so much. Although I've been enjoying the 4062 02:57:09.840 --> 02:57:11.760 war within story, so maybe I'll be back we. 4063 02:57:11.879 --> 02:57:12.840 Speaking of the war within. 4064 02:57:12.959 --> 02:57:15.639 Oddly enough, Warframe had an expansion of the war Within, 4065 02:57:15.680 --> 02:57:18.399 which is what got me into Warframe lore and Warframe 4066 02:57:18.600 --> 02:57:21.159 like Warframe puts much of its lower front and center. However, 4067 02:57:21.200 --> 02:57:23.120 there's a lot that's kind of hidden around in like 4068 02:57:23.159 --> 02:57:27.840 little codexes and what and whatnot, Like I like fourteen's lore, 4069 02:57:27.920 --> 02:57:30.520 but it's so extensively covered in the game that I 4070 02:57:30.600 --> 02:57:32.600 don't need outside material. 4071 02:57:32.239 --> 02:57:35.000 For Actually, Dan, I don't know if we talked about this. Warframe. 4072 02:57:35.280 --> 02:57:37.000 Much of its lower can be traced back to an 4073 02:57:37.079 --> 02:57:41.079 event Horizon type incident on a spaceship where a bunch 4074 02:57:41.159 --> 02:57:44.360 of kids were the only survivors of this. They basically 4075 02:57:44.719 --> 02:57:47.559 encountered hell and then they came back and were able 4076 02:57:47.600 --> 02:57:51.159 to control No, these kids came back and they were 4077 02:57:51.159 --> 02:57:54.600 the only ones that control these like Assassin Robot ninjas. 4078 02:57:54.959 --> 02:57:58.639 Okay, Warframes, that's pretty cool. Kirby's dream course. I like 4079 02:57:58.719 --> 02:58:01.000 the lore in that. Yeah, explain it. 4080 02:58:02.120 --> 02:58:07.159 You go in the whole hole, talk again, talk Actually, 4081 02:58:07.840 --> 02:58:09.639 I am like going back and forth in my top 4082 02:58:09.680 --> 02:58:14.120 one hundred. I always like the suggestion of the lore 4083 02:58:14.200 --> 02:58:18.600 of Castlevania where it's like all these acolytes are bringing 4084 02:58:18.719 --> 02:58:21.559 back Dracula and now sometimes they're doing it in the 4085 02:58:21.840 --> 02:58:24.520 near future, and that's why my character has a handgun. 4086 02:58:25.120 --> 02:58:25.959 That's where I'm a. 4087 02:58:26.360 --> 02:58:30.319 Vibe though it's like I don't know fucking Castlevania Metroid 4088 02:58:30.319 --> 02:58:33.159 style like and it's I don't know what the is 4089 02:58:33.159 --> 02:58:35.120 happening to any of them other Oh no Dracula, right, 4090 02:58:35.120 --> 02:58:35.360 But but. 4091 02:58:35.440 --> 02:58:37.879 An's something to start talking about that stuff. It's contributing 4092 02:58:37.920 --> 02:58:40.000 to that vibe, which is where I like my lord 4093 02:58:40.040 --> 02:58:40.200 to be. 4094 02:58:40.559 --> 02:58:43.040 I do, like like in Portrait of ruein like the 4095 02:58:43.319 --> 02:58:45.959 one character from like Casavia, Budlines on the Genesis shows 4096 02:58:46.000 --> 02:58:47.159 up and the form God that's kind. 4097 02:58:47.079 --> 02:58:50.239 Of Neat's exactly, it's kind of neat. That's that's as 4098 02:58:50.319 --> 02:58:52.399 much as a card I think. Yeah, I think for 4099 02:58:52.520 --> 02:58:54.079 me a lot of times, Lore just feels like it 4100 02:58:54.159 --> 02:58:55.479 gets in the way of what I want from a 4101 02:58:55.559 --> 02:58:58.399 video game, you know. And I see METROI dread, and 4102 02:58:58.479 --> 02:59:01.120 I liked a lot of the payoff of the ongoing 4103 02:59:01.200 --> 02:59:04.159 low in that game was really good actually, But. 4104 02:59:04.239 --> 02:59:06.280 Also there's stuff like Mario where it's like there's almost 4105 02:59:06.360 --> 02:59:08.440 no time given to like Lore or anything. But like, 4106 02:59:08.559 --> 02:59:11.079 because there's just so many fucking games and so many 4107 02:59:11.079 --> 02:59:13.280 fucking characters that like you have to kind of create 4108 02:59:13.360 --> 02:59:15.760 your own weird lore of like oh wait, we saw 4109 02:59:15.879 --> 02:59:18.959 Mario's parents in Yoshi's Island and then uh, okay, so. 4110 02:59:20.719 --> 02:59:22.959 Deal, what's that? Yeah, but he's actually from Brooklyn. 4111 02:59:23.000 --> 02:59:26.600 And then the wildest thing is Mario Galaxy two not 4112 02:59:26.879 --> 02:59:30.079 being a storyline sequel to Mario Galaxy one and instead 4113 02:59:30.200 --> 02:59:33.440 is like maybe a reboot, except that it has so 4114 02:59:34.200 --> 02:59:36.440 little regard for the story mark Kalaxi one. 4115 02:59:36.479 --> 02:59:38.559 I think calling it a reboot is even generous. 4116 02:59:39.600 --> 02:59:42.639 It's more of a cast of characters and enemies and locations, 4117 02:59:42.760 --> 02:59:43.840 and like, I just kind of like that. 4118 02:59:44.000 --> 02:59:45.719 There's like every other Mario games, like we will go 4119 02:59:45.799 --> 02:59:48.520 into the new neighboring Kingdom, and there's been twenty of 4120 02:59:48.600 --> 02:59:49.319 them at this point. 4121 02:59:49.399 --> 02:59:52.159 Like now Brothership is like the Kingdom. Worry Body is 4122 02:59:52.239 --> 02:59:53.559 an electrical outlet. 4123 02:59:53.600 --> 02:59:58.920 I don't know, fuck you, I care more about whether 4124 02:59:58.959 --> 03:00:01.719 the Koopa Ling's are about kids. Uh, that would do 4125 03:00:01.879 --> 03:00:04.040 like anything that's ever happened in the Last of Us. 4126 03:00:04.079 --> 03:00:05.920 You know, I like a game where it's like I'm 4127 03:00:06.040 --> 03:00:08.079 like shocked to learn something's been happening the whole time, 4128 03:00:08.120 --> 03:00:10.479 like Trials Evolution I think it was, or Transfusion. 4129 03:00:11.200 --> 03:00:13.200 Was the robot one? Yeah, right, it's like, wait, what 4130 03:00:13.440 --> 03:00:15.440 what are the robots? The robot trying to fuck me? 4131 03:00:15.600 --> 03:00:19.639 What's happening? The portal was like that where you didn't 4132 03:00:19.639 --> 03:00:20.879 really think lower story. 4133 03:00:23.600 --> 03:00:25.399 Yeah, and that is part of the overall lore of 4134 03:00:25.479 --> 03:00:27.239 those games. Yeah, that's a good example. 4135 03:00:28.479 --> 03:00:31.440 I'll thank you, Katie. Dan, you want to read this 4136 03:00:31.520 --> 03:00:35.040 one from Brad? Yes, it's also about Kingdom Marts. 4137 03:00:35.159 --> 03:00:35.840 Yes it is not. 4138 03:00:36.319 --> 03:00:40.360 Hey, Gang, I know you'all also experience photic sneeze reflex, 4139 03:00:40.399 --> 03:00:42.840 where bright light can trigger a sneeze. But did you 4140 03:00:42.920 --> 03:00:47.799 know that it's also called autosommal dominant compelling helio ophthalmolic 4141 03:00:48.159 --> 03:00:49.479 outburst syndrome. 4142 03:00:49.280 --> 03:00:56.479 Short Castlevania collection actually shortened is a che syndrome. Have 4143 03:00:56.559 --> 03:00:58.559 you ever had a really good or really bad timing 4144 03:00:58.639 --> 03:01:01.639 for a sneeze? Slash burp slash fart Brad and Phoenix, 4145 03:01:02.040 --> 03:01:04.280 I had not heard of this until Dan, you told 4146 03:01:04.319 --> 03:01:05.559 me about it when we were in London. 4147 03:01:05.680 --> 03:01:06.680 Well all yeah, Marry and me. 4148 03:01:06.799 --> 03:01:09.040 Also, it's it doesn't sound as strong with me, like 4149 03:01:09.120 --> 03:01:12.040 it only works like sixty percent of the time, but. 4150 03:01:13.239 --> 03:01:15.200 Every fucking time, And then when I explain it to 4151 03:01:15.200 --> 03:01:17.360 someone that doesn't have it, they think I'm bullshitting them. 4152 03:01:17.399 --> 03:01:19.600 But it is like I am walking from a store 4153 03:01:19.799 --> 03:01:22.079 at two pm into the parking lot and the sun 4154 03:01:22.159 --> 03:01:24.399 is shining down like I'm going to sneeze like crazy, 4155 03:01:24.479 --> 03:01:27.120 like box the end of the million times, and even 4156 03:01:27.200 --> 03:01:28.879 like indoor lights and stuff can do it. But yeah, 4157 03:01:28.920 --> 03:01:30.639 I think it's like a third of the population has 4158 03:01:30.760 --> 03:01:33.680 the gene. But maybe there's different, you know, severities of it. 4159 03:01:33.760 --> 03:01:37.639 But I super fucking have it. But am I only 4160 03:01:37.680 --> 03:01:38.479 one on here that No? 4161 03:01:38.680 --> 03:01:39.239 I do too? 4162 03:01:39.280 --> 03:01:41.440 I don't have it. Wait, Grub, you have it, and 4163 03:01:41.680 --> 03:01:42.680 no I do not. 4164 03:01:42.879 --> 03:01:43.200 You do not? 4165 03:01:43.440 --> 03:01:43.920 My hearty does. 4166 03:01:44.040 --> 03:01:45.840 Yeah, me, you and Mary have talked about all having it, 4167 03:01:45.920 --> 03:01:48.440 but it sounds like you have it more. Sometimes if 4168 03:01:48.479 --> 03:01:51.079 I need to sneeze and I it's like I can 4169 03:01:51.120 --> 03:01:52.680 feel the snee going away, I can look at like 4170 03:01:52.719 --> 03:01:54.479 a light bulb and it will trigger it. 4171 03:01:54.600 --> 03:01:56.200 No, that'll totally work. But like, if I need it, 4172 03:01:56.239 --> 03:01:57.680 I'll walk over to this door and I'll look up 4173 03:01:57.680 --> 03:01:59.239 at the sun and just up there it is. Yeah, 4174 03:02:00.079 --> 03:02:07.959 that would be the funniest thing to trigger sneezing. Okay, wait, 4175 03:02:07.959 --> 03:02:09.959 now let's go down this path here. Yeah, what would 4176 03:02:10.000 --> 03:02:12.120 be the funny thing that would trigger coming or farting? 4177 03:02:12.360 --> 03:02:16.079 Sneezing? You sneeze and you come every time. 4178 03:02:16.920 --> 03:02:17.920 It's like, what do you take for that? 4179 03:02:18.120 --> 03:02:18.479 Pepper? 4180 03:02:19.479 --> 03:02:23.040 Yeah? You still that boting sneeze reflects by walking to 4181 03:02:23.120 --> 03:02:24.680 a parking lot and sneeze coming. 4182 03:02:25.520 --> 03:02:26.799 What's the what's the medaceine for that? 4183 03:02:26.920 --> 03:02:28.239 I walk in the parking lot, I look up the 4184 03:02:28.280 --> 03:02:30.079 sun every ten minutes, sneeze. 4185 03:02:29.760 --> 03:02:38.440 Come, Holy ship, I mean, yeah, just be awesome. That 4186 03:02:38.520 --> 03:02:40.120 makes me feel I'm taking pepper. 4187 03:02:40.200 --> 03:02:42.879 That's just what like g spot orgasms feel like. 4188 03:02:45.760 --> 03:02:50.120 Parking lot, like t J Max. Like every every time 4189 03:02:50.159 --> 03:02:52.399 you get the check, you sneeze or something I don't 4190 03:02:52.479 --> 03:02:52.719 know what. 4191 03:02:57.079 --> 03:03:03.440 Would be super inconvenient, like an email hands What did 4192 03:03:03.440 --> 03:03:05.159 you say, Manati? You said something like when you get 4193 03:03:05.600 --> 03:03:07.920 you get to check check, get the check all right, 4194 03:03:08.040 --> 03:03:11.559 that is a good one, or a receipt like somebody. 4195 03:03:11.360 --> 03:03:14.680 Will you that you'll never get a second date ever. 4196 03:03:15.799 --> 03:03:18.079 Any So it says that was a really nice time 4197 03:03:18.159 --> 03:03:20.639 and then boom. Every time a dog barks. 4198 03:03:21.760 --> 03:03:23.959 Anywhere in the world, whether you can hear it or not. 4199 03:03:25.600 --> 03:03:32.440 The dog parks the dogs because you go forever incoming sneeze. 4200 03:03:32.760 --> 03:03:37.079 Whenever Memoto says, please be excited, that's when direct when 4201 03:03:37.120 --> 03:03:38.120 they snapped. 4202 03:03:38.079 --> 03:03:41.920 Yeah, anytime you see a dead body to Wakes would 4203 03:03:41.920 --> 03:03:43.799 be sure you're already come. 4204 03:03:43.719 --> 03:03:46.360 On hot, any weake you're at you sneeze, come far? 4205 03:03:47.079 --> 03:03:49.879 God wait, why didn't you turn into snooze coming party 4206 03:03:49.959 --> 03:03:50.399 every time? 4207 03:03:50.440 --> 03:03:52.120 Because you mentioned it? I thought it was you. 4208 03:03:52.280 --> 03:03:57.600 They did that, you did, I'll have to be that. Okay, Okay, well. 4209 03:03:57.559 --> 03:04:00.200 Ideally you're right, it wouldn't be that. Yeah, I don't 4210 03:04:00.200 --> 03:04:03.399 want that. No, God, what would that? I feel like 4211 03:04:03.440 --> 03:04:07.600 you would if Okay, actually, scientifically speaking, I think if 4212 03:04:07.680 --> 03:04:10.760 you sneezed and came and farted at the same time, 4213 03:04:11.319 --> 03:04:13.760 you're not farting ninety percent the time. You're also shipping 4214 03:04:13.799 --> 03:04:17.200 your pants. If you're doing those two other things, you're not. 4215 03:04:17.159 --> 03:04:23.520 Gonna vale every time left every time you hear a 4216 03:04:23.959 --> 03:04:25.360 car honk, and you live in. 4217 03:04:25.360 --> 03:04:31.239 New York City, no iron thing about being wearing diapers. 4218 03:04:31.440 --> 03:04:32.079 All the honking. 4219 03:04:32.200 --> 03:04:34.959 I'm like, I heard more honking today than like I 4220 03:04:35.079 --> 03:04:38.639 have ever honked in my life. I could never anxiety 4221 03:04:38.680 --> 03:04:40.799 because we'd even think about honking at somebody. 4222 03:04:41.319 --> 03:04:45.479 No way, you guys, You guys don't understand, because there 4223 03:04:45.520 --> 03:04:47.399 was this is a thing like those honk if your 4224 03:04:47.440 --> 03:04:49.559 horny things on the back of cars where it was 4225 03:04:49.639 --> 03:04:51.479 like they're doing that. So when you honk it them 4226 03:04:51.479 --> 03:04:53.959 if you're mad, it's like, oh, I'm saying I'm horny Instead, 4227 03:04:53.959 --> 03:04:54.319 it's like you. 4228 03:04:54.360 --> 03:04:58.760 Got get the current. I never put that together. That 4229 03:04:59.239 --> 03:05:01.639 either me quite a bit to realize that. 4230 03:05:01.680 --> 03:05:03.520 I guess I never stopped and thought about because it 4231 03:05:03.559 --> 03:05:04.879 would be weird to just be like, tell me your 4232 03:05:04.879 --> 03:05:06.840 horny with your car right like, and. 4233 03:05:06.879 --> 03:05:08.440 If there's a whole bunch of them like honk if 4234 03:05:08.520 --> 03:05:11.879 you you know, think kittens are cool and like for whatever. 4235 03:05:12.239 --> 03:05:13.280 Yeah, exactly. Yes. 4236 03:05:13.520 --> 03:05:15.040 So it's like you can't honk at me if you're 4237 03:05:15.040 --> 03:05:16.959 mad at me, because then you're saying this, you're just 4238 03:05:17.000 --> 03:05:20.479 being a weirdo saying your horny in your car right exactly. Yes, 4239 03:05:20.559 --> 03:05:21.479 So it's like a damn. 4240 03:05:21.520 --> 03:05:22.920 I don't think I put that together either. 4241 03:05:23.000 --> 03:05:24.799 That took me a while. 4242 03:05:24.920 --> 03:05:31.680 Yes, if you want to leave your friends behind on 4243 03:05:31.799 --> 03:05:34.120 friends don't dance and they don't dance in there. No 4244 03:05:34.280 --> 03:05:37.000 friends of mine, thank you, you're welcome, and if that 4245 03:05:37.159 --> 03:05:39.040 anyone thinks that, then you come to Sneezing far. 4246 03:05:41.319 --> 03:05:46.280 If you want to leave your friends behind or not, 4247 03:05:46.399 --> 03:05:48.159 it's gonna happen. What if it was? 4248 03:05:49.239 --> 03:05:52.440 Uh, every time you make a donation that triggers that. 4249 03:05:53.159 --> 03:05:55.719 So imagine like your friend's trying to get your friends 4250 03:05:55.799 --> 03:05:57.840 trying to get you to donate to like a good cause, 4251 03:05:57.879 --> 03:05:59.760 and you're like, I can't explain. 4252 03:05:59.440 --> 03:06:02.600 Why, but harassment. Sorry, do you want to round up 4253 03:06:02.639 --> 03:06:04.760 your total? Today? The feed starving kidney? 4254 03:06:05.479 --> 03:06:08.319 And then you accidentally press yes, and then just like 4255 03:06:09.000 --> 03:06:09.760 every time the. 4256 03:06:10.079 --> 03:06:12.840 Please silence your cell phone thing comes on before a movie. 4257 03:06:15.000 --> 03:06:20.360 Just rip shred ass to ask a question? Oh yeah, 4258 03:06:20.680 --> 03:06:21.200 was a question? 4259 03:06:21.840 --> 03:06:23.639 Oh have you ever had really good or really bad 4260 03:06:23.760 --> 03:06:25.879 timing for Sneeze Bird Bart we talked about in the 4261 03:06:25.920 --> 03:06:26.520 last episode. 4262 03:06:26.559 --> 03:06:29.280 My airplane fart was pretty It would have been embarrassing 4263 03:06:29.319 --> 03:06:31.319 if I get if I like had that bone in 4264 03:06:31.360 --> 03:06:34.200 my body. But also people were asleep. I don't need 4265 03:06:34.239 --> 03:06:36.000 to retell. Well, I guess Jeff and Mike weren't here. 4266 03:06:36.319 --> 03:06:38.920 I was falling asleep in my seat, you know, like 4267 03:06:39.040 --> 03:06:40.680 how but I didn't have a pillow or anything, and 4268 03:06:41.000 --> 03:06:43.879 it was in an aisle seat. My head bobbed really 4269 03:06:43.920 --> 03:06:46.159 hard and woke me up and I farted as I 4270 03:06:46.280 --> 03:06:49.440 jolted awake eye. It was on a red eye and 4271 03:06:49.479 --> 03:06:51.680 I looked around and everybody was sleeping or had headphones 4272 03:06:51.680 --> 03:06:52.319 and except. 4273 03:06:52.040 --> 03:06:55.280 For one loud enough yeah it's probably gonna get It 4274 03:06:55.360 --> 03:06:59.760 was loud fart though, and like only was one person flight. Yeah, 4275 03:07:00.079 --> 03:07:02.440 my best part in my life was me waking up. 4276 03:07:02.479 --> 03:07:05.319 We were at my brother's apartment. My other brother was 4277 03:07:05.319 --> 03:07:08.159 already up and we already like do jokes where you know. 4278 03:07:08.319 --> 03:07:10.959 So in Final Fantasy, the spell levels. 4279 03:07:10.920 --> 03:07:17.360 There's fire, there's fira, and there's fart and farta and fartaga. 4280 03:07:17.440 --> 03:07:19.360 But no one had no one would ever day think 4281 03:07:19.360 --> 03:07:22.360 that we would dare claim was a fartaga never came close. 4282 03:07:22.520 --> 03:07:24.520 There's a lot of farta's. So you held out of that. 4283 03:07:24.600 --> 03:07:26.639 You made you made a count right like yah. Yeah. 4284 03:07:26.680 --> 03:07:28.920 But so like that morning though, like I just woke up, 4285 03:07:29.440 --> 03:07:32.479 like I let one rip. It woke people up in 4286 03:07:32.600 --> 03:07:33.760 the next room. 4287 03:07:34.000 --> 03:07:34.239 Yeah. 4288 03:07:35.680 --> 03:07:37.040 I remember brother he just looked at me and I 4289 03:07:37.079 --> 03:07:39.159 had the biggest grin on my face, like it was 4290 03:07:39.239 --> 03:07:41.280 like you know, without saying it was like that was 4291 03:07:41.319 --> 03:07:44.639 it that was we did it everybody. 4292 03:07:45.559 --> 03:07:47.840 Mary, Jake, and I were in the guest room at 4293 03:07:47.920 --> 03:07:50.079 Dan's house for a game of her last year and 4294 03:07:50.159 --> 03:07:53.159 I woke up at like seven am and was holding 4295 03:07:53.200 --> 03:07:54.360 them in for a bit and I was in the 4296 03:07:54.360 --> 03:07:56.319 bottom bunk. I was like, I don't I don't care, 4297 03:07:56.360 --> 03:08:00.559 and I started ripping ass. Jake and Mary were both laughing. 4298 03:08:00.600 --> 03:08:03.760 I think it was uh directly. 4299 03:08:05.600 --> 03:08:08.799 Yeah, I've been doing a lot of long parts lately, 4300 03:08:09.000 --> 03:08:10.879 like those are like eight seconds. 4301 03:08:12.399 --> 03:08:13.799 I'm getting I'm getting better at them. 4302 03:08:14.000 --> 03:08:16.840 Good sphincter control, Yeah, yeah, I got I got good 4303 03:08:17.559 --> 03:08:18.239 spink control. 4304 03:08:18.840 --> 03:08:21.120 That is a pretty good one. And I don't know 4305 03:08:21.280 --> 03:08:24.799 because of COVID or the COVID medicine that was really letting. 4306 03:08:24.639 --> 03:08:26.879 Them rip there for a bit. Yeah, that that packs 4307 03:08:27.079 --> 03:08:28.719 Vid will do. That is good. Yeah. 4308 03:08:29.280 --> 03:08:38.559 Okay, you think Bill Gates putting the shot into your sphincter? 4309 03:08:39.120 --> 03:08:42.799 Uh huh, Bill controls the sphincters. 4310 03:08:43.600 --> 03:08:47.399 I promise the story ends with parts my dad equally 4311 03:08:47.479 --> 03:08:49.479 brings up. There have been a lot of times my 4312 03:08:49.559 --> 03:08:51.680 dad and I have drunk together and we've both gotten 4313 03:08:51.879 --> 03:08:54.120 very drunk, and frequently one of us got drunker than 4314 03:08:54.120 --> 03:08:56.360 the other. This is one where he came to pick 4315 03:08:56.399 --> 03:08:58.719 me up from a thing and he was relatively sober. 4316 03:08:59.319 --> 03:09:01.239 It was my tenure her high school reunion. I went 4317 03:09:01.360 --> 03:09:04.159 back to Kansas City and I just, you know, I 4318 03:09:04.440 --> 03:09:06.360 wasn't super social in high school, so it's like I 4319 03:09:06.440 --> 03:09:07.959 was just kind of curious to see what everyone's up to, 4320 03:09:08.040 --> 03:09:10.079 and like no other people actually Anyway, I got really 4321 03:09:10.159 --> 03:09:12.440 drunk and my dad came to pick me up at 4322 03:09:12.479 --> 03:09:15.399 the Kansas City Power and Light District and uh, as 4323 03:09:15.520 --> 03:09:18.239 he's like helping me out. I'm in full blown. This 4324 03:09:18.399 --> 03:09:21.680 is twenty twelve. I'm just drunk as shit. He says, 4325 03:09:22.600 --> 03:09:25.319 we're oh, yeah, we're We're walking down the sidewalk in 4326 03:09:25.399 --> 03:09:27.719 Kansas City, and I guess it was just one thing 4327 03:09:27.799 --> 03:09:30.760 after another of him thinking I was gonna get us killed. 4328 03:09:31.680 --> 03:09:33.639 There was like, I guess, a biker dude that was 4329 03:09:33.680 --> 03:09:35.600 walking like in an alley that had like tattoos all 4330 03:09:35.639 --> 03:09:37.799 over his head and face and everything and a leather 4331 03:09:38.000 --> 03:09:39.840 like cut and all that, and I guess my dad's 4332 03:09:39.840 --> 03:09:41.200 like kind of like helped me walk by him, and 4333 03:09:41.280 --> 03:09:42.639 I just point in the guy's face. 4334 03:09:42.440 --> 03:09:43.879 And I go, you're tough. 4335 03:09:46.200 --> 03:09:48.760 Then we kept going, like the next block there was 4336 03:09:48.840 --> 03:09:51.719 a girl on her cell phone talking and she was 4337 03:09:51.760 --> 03:09:53.719 like clear, like she's like having like a screaming contest 4338 03:09:53.799 --> 03:09:55.600 with like a boyfriend or an next boyfriend. And I 4339 03:09:55.639 --> 03:09:59.079 guess I was just like it's fine, It'll all be fine, 4340 03:10:00.520 --> 03:10:02.920 until she like turn it around, was like shut the 4341 03:10:03.239 --> 03:10:06.920 fuck up. So it was just like one thing after 4342 03:10:06.959 --> 03:10:08.760 another of my dad being like, you're going to get 4343 03:10:08.879 --> 03:10:12.079 us fucking killed, and so you wind up there's a 4344 03:10:12.120 --> 03:10:14.719 picture of me from this night, just like past the 4345 03:10:14.799 --> 03:10:16.440 fuck out in his back seat, and he had to give. 4346 03:10:16.280 --> 03:10:18.600 Me tell these stories because you don't remember this night, right. 4347 03:10:18.799 --> 03:10:21.360 I wasn't like fully blacked out or anything, but I 4348 03:10:21.520 --> 03:10:24.840 was drunker than I've been in many many years. I 4349 03:10:24.920 --> 03:10:27.840 don't drink that much these days. And we get back 4350 03:10:27.920 --> 03:10:30.200 to we went to a bar and we met up 4351 03:10:30.200 --> 03:10:32.840 to a girl he had just started dating at this time, 4352 03:10:33.399 --> 03:10:36.079 this woman, and like this, I'd heard about this one 4353 03:10:36.120 --> 03:10:37.760 for a while, even dating her for a few weeks. 4354 03:10:37.799 --> 03:10:39.840 And we met at the Red Balloon, this bar that 4355 03:10:40.040 --> 03:10:42.600 my mom and dad met at, and I guess I 4356 03:10:42.760 --> 03:10:44.600 was just so fucked up that it was like, Okay, 4357 03:10:44.639 --> 03:10:45.799 we got to get him out of here. And they 4358 03:10:45.840 --> 03:10:47.799 like kind of brought me back to the car, take 4359 03:10:47.879 --> 03:10:50.840 it back back to Dad's place, and then to get 4360 03:10:50.920 --> 03:10:52.399 They just want to get me inside and throw me 4361 03:10:52.440 --> 03:10:53.719 on a couch, so I just pass out. 4362 03:10:54.200 --> 03:10:55.280 And so it's me in the. 4363 03:10:55.280 --> 03:11:00.239 Center, arms around Dad here, we got his uh is 4364 03:11:00.360 --> 03:11:02.719 new lady here, and we're walking up like there's like, 4365 03:11:02.799 --> 03:11:05.200 you know, twelve to fifteen steps going up to his place. 4366 03:11:05.440 --> 03:11:08.840 And he said, every single step I've heard it. 4367 03:11:09.639 --> 03:11:14.440 He said it was like yeah, oh yeah, he said. 4368 03:11:14.399 --> 03:11:16.639 He remembers thinking it was the funniest fucking thing in 4369 03:11:16.680 --> 03:11:18.600 the world. But he didn't want to laugh because he 4370 03:11:18.719 --> 03:11:21.239 just started dating. So he's like, God, damn it, this 4371 03:11:21.440 --> 03:11:26.040 is so funny. I can't be laughing at us. Here's 4372 03:11:26.120 --> 03:11:31.079 my son. Oh yeah, that's credit. It's beautiful. 4373 03:11:31.280 --> 03:11:34.920 Oh yeah, I never, yeah, I got. I've got pretty drunk. 4374 03:11:34.920 --> 03:11:36.719 I never got blackout drunk. I never. 4375 03:11:37.319 --> 03:11:39.479 I don't know if that's a thing. It's time I remember, 4376 03:11:39.520 --> 03:11:41.319 like waking up, be like I don't even know what happened. 4377 03:11:41.360 --> 03:11:44.120 Then it's a bad enough feeling to where it will 4378 03:11:44.239 --> 03:11:46.920 really make it like, oh, I remember the last time 4379 03:11:46.959 --> 03:11:49.280 I think it last time I blacked out, I think 4380 03:11:49.440 --> 03:11:52.040 was that fucking Pax where I told you I've been 4381 03:11:52.079 --> 03:11:54.959 at Buffalo Wild Wings for like the whole weekend in Seattle, 4382 03:11:55.360 --> 03:11:56.840 and it was just seriously a thing where I was 4383 03:11:56.879 --> 03:11:58.440 just like people kept showing up and I kept drinking 4384 03:11:58.600 --> 03:12:01.200 and I I just blacked out at one point and 4385 03:12:01.319 --> 03:12:03.200 then I woke up in my room. It was the 4386 03:12:03.719 --> 03:12:07.280 night before the night before the packs where everyone threw 4387 03:12:07.280 --> 03:12:09.760 hot dogs at me and because I was like puking 4388 03:12:09.840 --> 03:12:12.000 that morning. But I woke up and I don't remember 4389 03:12:12.079 --> 03:12:14.399 leaving Buffalo Wild Wings, and I just remember being like 4390 03:12:15.040 --> 03:12:17.000 holy shit, like I wound up back home, but like 4391 03:12:17.120 --> 03:12:18.879 there's this gap of time. I don't know how many 4392 03:12:18.920 --> 03:12:21.159 hours I remember talking to people, because it turns out 4393 03:12:21.159 --> 03:12:23.680 like Ben Pack helped me get back to the hotel 4394 03:12:23.760 --> 03:12:27.040 room and stuff, and asking him like everything, do you remember. 4395 03:12:26.799 --> 03:12:27.200 What he said? 4396 03:12:27.280 --> 03:12:29.959 Because I was so worried, like I what does blackout 4397 03:12:30.040 --> 03:12:30.319 dan do? 4398 03:12:30.600 --> 03:12:30.920 I don't. 4399 03:12:31.000 --> 03:12:34.040 I wasn't there mentally, I'm scared too thinking about it. Yeah, 4400 03:12:34.159 --> 03:12:36.000 And I asked been Packed and he was like, you 4401 03:12:36.159 --> 03:12:38.760 mainly talked a lot about how much you loved being married. 4402 03:12:38.719 --> 03:12:38.799 And. 4403 03:12:45.000 --> 03:12:47.639 Yeah, I want a bottle tequila in a bet And 4404 03:12:48.159 --> 03:12:50.440 everyone sat down with me, and I'm basically I took 4405 03:12:50.559 --> 03:12:53.440 every shot with someone else, So I drank probably half 4406 03:12:53.440 --> 03:12:55.639 a bottle at tequila in that Uh they told me. 4407 03:12:55.680 --> 03:12:59.079 I jumped into a trash can and I tried to 4408 03:12:59.159 --> 03:13:02.319 drive somewhere like not like just a trashic. I dripped 4409 03:13:02.319 --> 03:13:04.920 into like a big dumpster outside our apartment complex. And 4410 03:13:05.319 --> 03:13:07.440 and then the rest of the story is I don't know. 4411 03:13:07.479 --> 03:13:08.920 And then I woke up my bed the next day, 4412 03:13:09.079 --> 03:13:11.399 but did you have the same like oh god, what 4413 03:13:11.760 --> 03:13:14.600 like yeah, no, it's not happened since then, And that 4414 03:13:14.920 --> 03:13:17.559 was twenty years ago, pretty close. 4415 03:13:17.360 --> 03:13:20.600 And legitimate ones in my life. And like the first 4416 03:13:20.639 --> 03:13:21.959 time I was like, I'm never doing this again. Then 4417 03:13:21.959 --> 03:13:24.959 the second time, of course, like just happened. I was like, 4418 03:13:24.959 --> 03:13:26.840 all right, this is this is enough for me to 4419 03:13:27.200 --> 03:13:27.479 There are. 4420 03:13:27.399 --> 03:13:28.959 A couple where there was like I definitely lost to 4421 03:13:29.040 --> 03:13:30.760 bodily control, but I remember everything. 4422 03:13:30.799 --> 03:13:32.959 I'd rather have brown out or whatever they call it. 4423 03:13:33.159 --> 03:13:34.799 She had like a birthday where it's like, oh, we 4424 03:13:34.840 --> 03:13:35.959 got to get him home, and I'm like, well I 4425 03:13:36.040 --> 03:13:36.600 remember all this. 4426 03:13:36.840 --> 03:13:39.319 Yeah, back when I did drink like more like I 4427 03:13:39.360 --> 03:13:41.639 would just get sick or just fall asleep before that, 4428 03:13:41.760 --> 03:13:43.479 and this point, I'll just get a headache before I 4429 03:13:43.520 --> 03:13:45.440 can even get close to that point now. 4430 03:13:45.840 --> 03:13:51.959 Yeah, yeah, but no, my my inopportune farting was probably 4431 03:13:52.040 --> 03:13:57.319 the time I lulled off to sleep heavily. 4432 03:13:58.799 --> 03:14:00.920 Load off to sleep heavily on the plane. 4433 03:14:03.479 --> 03:14:07.840 I jolted awake falling asleep on the plane. I guess 4434 03:14:07.879 --> 03:14:08.920 you can't really lull. 4435 03:14:10.680 --> 03:14:13.520 I only farted the most opportune times. Yeah, so yeah, 4436 03:14:13.559 --> 03:14:17.319 a lot of mine. Yeah, I picked my moments. Yeah, 4437 03:14:17.680 --> 03:14:20.719 I've also awoken. I woke Stef up when we're early 4438 03:14:20.799 --> 03:14:22.440 when we were dating, she was on the other side 4439 03:14:22.440 --> 03:14:25.159 of the wall and it like vibrated the couch she 4440 03:14:25.280 --> 03:14:25.760 was sitting on. 4441 03:14:26.000 --> 03:14:29.120 So, you know, a real fun thing to do as 4442 03:14:29.200 --> 03:14:31.920 a married guy with pets is like, you know, I'll 4443 03:14:31.959 --> 03:14:34.479 think bomb because you know, out of ear shot, and 4444 03:14:34.520 --> 03:14:36.959 I'll just let one rip and then be like, oh nice. 4445 03:14:37.040 --> 03:14:39.680 You know, it's like blaming on gizmo, you know. 4446 03:14:40.040 --> 03:14:41.879 You do you try to do it out of ear 4447 03:14:41.920 --> 03:14:46.479 shot of She definitely doesn't like care, but I think 4448 03:14:46.520 --> 03:14:47.879 I just there is a part of me that's just 4449 03:14:47.920 --> 03:14:49.520 like I don't just want to be tearing ass all 4450 03:14:49.600 --> 03:14:50.159 day in the house. 4451 03:14:50.239 --> 03:14:52.840 You know, it's mostly subconscious, mostly. 4452 03:14:53.559 --> 03:14:56.200 Amanda listens to this podcast, so I can't really say 4453 03:14:56.319 --> 03:14:56.959 yeah me neither. 4454 03:14:57.079 --> 03:15:01.000 I never know I Amanda, MI, nice to meet you, 4455 03:15:01.600 --> 03:15:05.079 I subscriber. Can you see you aggressively winking right now? 4456 03:15:05.799 --> 03:15:07.719 I absolutely not in. 4457 03:15:08.000 --> 03:15:12.000 The same room to make her laugh. Never, the long 4458 03:15:12.079 --> 03:15:15.440 farts are definitely not for her entertainment. Ever, I go outside, 4459 03:15:15.479 --> 03:15:16.680 I go for walks to fart. 4460 03:15:17.840 --> 03:15:19.719 I love. I love farting for my nephew. He thinks 4461 03:15:19.760 --> 03:15:22.479 it's very funny. His mom not so much. Get she'll 4462 03:15:22.479 --> 03:15:23.719 get mad at me, which just kind of makes it 4463 03:15:24.000 --> 03:15:24.760 a little funnier. 4464 03:15:25.399 --> 03:15:28.319 There's definitely not rules for where I'm actually strictly not 4465 03:15:28.399 --> 03:15:29.600 allowed to fart in the apartment. 4466 03:15:30.159 --> 03:15:31.920 Definitely not, definitely, definitely not. 4467 03:15:32.520 --> 03:15:35.559 I allow myself to fart with abandon in a situation 4468 03:15:35.760 --> 03:15:37.280 like this where it's like, oh, it'd be funny if 4469 03:15:37.280 --> 03:15:38.680 the mic picked it up or something, but there's no 4470 03:15:38.719 --> 03:15:41.040 one in this room. I definitely I've scaled it back 4471 03:15:41.360 --> 03:15:42.840 as I've gotten old. You know, there's the South Ben 4472 03:15:42.879 --> 03:15:44.639 Hanson stories, like oh, I thought it was funny when 4473 03:15:44.680 --> 03:15:46.120 he poured his coffee out because I've parted in the 4474 03:15:46.159 --> 03:15:46.760 same room as it. 4475 03:15:46.799 --> 03:15:48.239 But like, I wouldn't be running around it. 4476 03:15:48.319 --> 03:15:49.719 If I lived or if I worked in an office, 4477 03:15:49.719 --> 03:15:51.680 I wouldn't be like farting on people's faces or anything. 4478 03:15:51.760 --> 03:15:52.799 But of course not. 4479 03:15:52.879 --> 03:15:55.680 You're so for that very Oh no, Mike, I see 4480 03:15:55.680 --> 03:15:59.040 your face because I've farted on you before. It's just 4481 03:15:59.120 --> 03:16:02.000 like Tim terious on my head and farted numerous times 4482 03:16:02.000 --> 03:16:05.680 and I felt his fart vibrate through my skull. But Mike, 4483 03:16:05.799 --> 03:16:08.319 it was in the office. I know it was at 4484 03:16:08.360 --> 03:16:10.040 Tim's place where I farted on your head. 4485 03:16:10.120 --> 03:16:14.360 Right, No, you're it's not on my head right into 4486 03:16:14.399 --> 03:16:15.360 my face. 4487 03:16:17.680 --> 03:16:18.760 Before you fed me. 4488 03:16:19.120 --> 03:16:20.559 Cat treats. 4489 03:16:22.319 --> 03:16:25.760 Jesus right each other very well, I think, Yeah, I 4490 03:16:25.959 --> 03:16:28.079 know it was. It was enough where I laughed on 4491 03:16:28.159 --> 03:16:31.319 the way back to s f from uh from Tim's place. 4492 03:16:31.479 --> 03:16:34.559 But I do like when Goblin Dan does appear where 4493 03:16:34.600 --> 03:16:38.200 it's like, here's some rocks from outside this this building 4494 03:16:39.600 --> 03:16:40.239 I'm gonna put. 4495 03:16:40.159 --> 03:16:44.360 Inside was the biggest because it's like, okay, So there 4496 03:16:44.399 --> 03:16:46.079 was the rest of my any match where Shawn Michaels 4497 03:16:46.120 --> 03:16:48.079 fought Vince and he was like blowing snot at him 4498 03:16:48.079 --> 03:16:49.479 and doing all that stuff, and Jim Ross is like, 4499 03:16:49.680 --> 03:16:51.680 oh my god, I never thought we'd see him again. 4500 03:16:51.760 --> 03:16:54.799 That was the old Shawn Michaels. That was me with 4501 03:16:54.920 --> 03:16:57.479 the rocks and the shoe. At that you saw the 4502 03:16:57.559 --> 03:16:58.159 old ding. 4503 03:17:00.159 --> 03:17:02.280 Adamant that that only got as out of hand because 4504 03:17:02.319 --> 03:17:04.600 Backler and Mike were both just going, oh my god, 4505 03:17:05.120 --> 03:17:07.399 Oh my god, I can't believe he's doing this. Oh, 4506 03:17:07.479 --> 03:17:09.120 and I'm like trying to no sell it so you'll 4507 03:17:09.159 --> 03:17:13.520 lose interest, and they're just this is I can't believe it. 4508 03:17:14.319 --> 03:17:19.280 To be clear, Toddler, He'll run out of steam, guopped. 4509 03:17:18.799 --> 03:17:23.239 Out of the office building for fandom and decided to 4510 03:17:23.399 --> 03:17:27.559 fill his shoe with my dog grubs shoe, so grubs shoe, 4511 03:17:27.559 --> 03:17:29.079 and that was the issue. You wouldn't give it back, 4512 03:17:29.159 --> 03:17:33.719 so you were like, I got his shoe, and so yeah, yeah, 4513 03:17:33.959 --> 03:17:36.319 you're trying like a little British orphan. Yeah, he's trying 4514 03:17:36.319 --> 03:17:37.959 to pretend like, oh, I'm gonna give him the shoe. 4515 03:17:38.000 --> 03:17:41.200 It's okay, he can come back. But he secretly filled 4516 03:17:41.239 --> 03:17:43.079 it with rocks. But as soon as the door opens, 4517 03:17:43.079 --> 03:17:45.360 of course grumb just snatches it as fast as he 4518 03:17:45.479 --> 03:17:48.360 can to get his shoe back, and then rocks go everywhere, 4519 03:17:48.760 --> 03:17:51.200 and then the people worked at the clean up, they're. 4520 03:17:51.040 --> 03:17:54.159 Not happy they thought the window shattered because it's all 4521 03:17:54.840 --> 03:17:55.399 very loud. 4522 03:17:55.959 --> 03:17:59.200 Yeah, oh god, so many things are coming to mind. 4523 03:17:59.600 --> 03:18:02.760 Well, we were importand we were with Mary. 4524 03:18:03.159 --> 03:18:05.319 Uh you know a week or two ago, we were 4525 03:18:05.319 --> 03:18:08.040 sitting by a fire pit and Mary had these like 4526 03:18:08.239 --> 03:18:10.200 sandals on, and I told her the story like, oh, 4527 03:18:10.239 --> 03:18:11.760 you know, when me and my sisters would go see 4528 03:18:11.799 --> 03:18:14.319 movies if they wore sandals. I thought it was hilarious 4529 03:18:14.360 --> 03:18:16.280 to like, in the middle of the movie when it's 4530 03:18:16.280 --> 03:18:18.879 super dark, just grab one of them and just throw 4531 03:18:19.000 --> 03:18:20.159 it all the way down. 4532 03:18:20.040 --> 03:18:26.000 And just like dealing it. I was like, you know what, 4533 03:18:26.399 --> 03:18:29.600 that's what Mike was like, Yeah, I can't handle it. 4534 03:18:29.719 --> 03:18:30.479 I can't handle it. 4535 03:18:30.760 --> 03:18:32.799 I think Mary did something. You either like took them 4536 03:18:32.840 --> 03:18:34.239 off or like tucked away. 4537 03:18:34.040 --> 03:18:36.559 From shoes to keep them tucked on her. 4538 03:18:36.680 --> 03:18:38.799 Yeah, yeah, shoes in the fire. 4539 03:18:38.920 --> 03:18:41.120 You kept putting goldfish in any drink I had when 4540 03:18:41.120 --> 03:18:43.319 I wasn't looking so, but then I also had a 4541 03:18:43.399 --> 03:18:47.600 pocket pocketed shirt sort of like this fisay this was 4542 03:18:47.799 --> 03:18:52.000 last week, and so by the time uh, he started 4543 03:18:52.000 --> 03:18:55.200 putting goldfish in here whereas bulging with goldfish. So at 4544 03:18:55.239 --> 03:18:58.920 a certain point, pocket and my drink so at a 4545 03:18:58.959 --> 03:19:00.600 certain point that I I had had a hand on 4546 03:19:00.719 --> 03:19:03.319 my pocket and a hand over my drink, like someone that. 4547 03:19:03.440 --> 03:19:04.840 Was waiting to be roof. 4548 03:19:05.200 --> 03:19:07.239 Yeah, with a bunch of people who hadn't seen this 4549 03:19:07.440 --> 03:19:09.479 going on, so he just looks insane. 4550 03:19:11.360 --> 03:19:12.239 Really patriotic. 4551 03:19:12.399 --> 03:19:14.360 A bunch of Australian people are coming up to me 4552 03:19:14.520 --> 03:19:15.920 and like I'm meeting them for the first time and 4553 03:19:16.000 --> 03:19:18.079 I'm pulling goldfish out of my shirt pocket and eating 4554 03:19:18.120 --> 03:19:21.879 them while we're talking, like what but no, the at 4555 03:19:21.920 --> 03:19:24.360 Tim's place, we were about to go see Creed two 4556 03:19:24.680 --> 03:19:27.280 with Tim Turry, and he had never seen Creed one, 4557 03:19:27.319 --> 03:19:28.600 which is one of the best movies ever made. 4558 03:19:28.639 --> 03:19:29.840 So we're like, let's watch that at your. 4559 03:19:29.760 --> 03:19:31.319 Plans first second, I thought you were talking about the 4560 03:19:31.360 --> 03:19:32.479 sequel to the band, But. 4561 03:19:34.959 --> 03:19:36.040 We're gonna go see Michael B. 4562 03:19:36.159 --> 03:19:39.280 Jordan and Tessa Thompson and Creed two, so we're like, 4563 03:19:39.399 --> 03:19:42.600 let's watch the first one. And toward the end, Dan 4564 03:19:42.959 --> 03:19:45.360 had a bag of chips. I think they were like 4565 03:19:45.440 --> 03:19:47.639 pretzels of some sort. So I was sitting in the 4566 03:19:47.680 --> 03:19:50.280 middle between them and Dan started just like feeding putting 4567 03:19:50.799 --> 03:19:54.040 pretzels right into my mouth for like ten minutes straight. 4568 03:19:53.879 --> 03:19:55.680 Like how many of these can I put in before 4569 03:19:55.719 --> 03:19:56.840 he stops, And. 4570 03:19:56.959 --> 03:20:01.239 Then finally he puts something mouth and I'm just chewing 4571 03:20:01.479 --> 03:20:03.360 like loudly. I'm like, I'm not like making the nose 4572 03:20:03.479 --> 03:20:05.120 or something. And I realized that he had put cat 4573 03:20:05.159 --> 03:20:07.479 treats into my mouth, and he he had like Paul, 4574 03:20:07.799 --> 03:20:10.680 he had like primed me to eat cat treats. And 4575 03:20:10.719 --> 03:20:14.639 then yeah, the next morning, it's always around him or Hansen. 4576 03:20:14.719 --> 03:20:17.479 When Dan starts to get into like big brother bully 4577 03:20:17.559 --> 03:20:19.719 mode with me, and he starts he went to go 4578 03:20:19.879 --> 03:20:21.920 side stuff. There's a coffee table in front of the 4579 03:20:22.000 --> 03:20:23.559 couch and I was just sitting hung over on the 4580 03:20:23.639 --> 03:20:28.520 couch and Dan like sidles like between the table and 4581 03:20:28.600 --> 03:20:30.920 the couch and farts right into my face. 4582 03:20:32.440 --> 03:20:34.239 So, which you know in a movie when like there's 4583 03:20:34.280 --> 03:20:37.040 like the not the like the big bad, but the 4584 03:20:37.120 --> 03:20:39.719 big bad scientists that will just like test anything on 4585 03:20:39.879 --> 03:20:40.479 any human. 4586 03:20:40.799 --> 03:20:44.399 That's that's Dan in goblin mode. I think, yes, no, Dan, the. 4587 03:20:44.440 --> 03:20:49.200 One time was here when you actually Amanda, this is 4588 03:20:49.200 --> 03:20:51.319 the first time Amanda saw me like get mad at you, 4589 03:20:52.360 --> 03:20:54.319 like genuinely I was. 4590 03:20:54.440 --> 03:20:56.360 I was done with it. We're coming up. 4591 03:20:56.520 --> 03:20:59.920 We're on a fourth floor, walk up oh, this is shoe, 4592 03:21:00.200 --> 03:21:03.360 and I'm carrying I'm helping to carry Mary one of 4593 03:21:03.440 --> 03:21:06.280 Mary's suitcases up and I'm leading the pack up the 4594 03:21:06.360 --> 03:21:12.000 stairs and four flights worth, let's say there's like fifteen 4595 03:21:12.079 --> 03:21:16.760 steps per flight. So first steps, we're going up to 4596 03:21:16.840 --> 03:21:20.079 my apartment and Dan just keeps like flat tiring the 4597 03:21:20.120 --> 03:21:27.520 back of my shoe with his foot, and I was 4598 03:21:27.600 --> 03:21:31.120 carrying a suitcase. So I the first flight it was funny, 4599 03:21:31.440 --> 03:21:33.879 and I remember thinking like, oh, he's an adult, he'll stop. 4600 03:21:34.879 --> 03:21:37.680 And then and then the first we get to the 4601 03:21:37.719 --> 03:21:39.680 second floor landing and we turn and I'm like, all right, 4602 03:21:40.600 --> 03:21:42.399 he's not gonna do it, and then he does on 4603 03:21:42.479 --> 03:21:45.440 the second floor and I actually immediately was like all right, Dan, 4604 03:21:46.520 --> 03:21:48.360 I like, chill the fuck out. 4605 03:21:48.639 --> 03:21:49.680 But you're also laughing. 4606 03:21:50.120 --> 03:21:52.040 I was laughing on the second flight, but then by 4607 03:21:52.079 --> 03:21:56.399 the third flight stairs, I was like four stop. I'm like, Dan, 4608 03:21:56.719 --> 03:21:58.639 I'm gonna fucking kick you in the chest so you 4609 03:21:58.719 --> 03:22:01.360 fall down these stairs if you don't grabbing my ankle. 4610 03:22:01.360 --> 03:22:05.440 And he kept going and I threatened his life, basically. 4611 03:22:06.440 --> 03:22:08.959 If that's how it ends. Amanda later that night. Amanda 4612 03:22:09.040 --> 03:22:11.319 later that night was like, you were. 4613 03:22:11.399 --> 03:22:13.159 Like, actually mad, I was like, yes, you. 4614 03:22:15.000 --> 03:22:18.159 My dad and he doesn't like that either. Is so 4615 03:22:18.360 --> 03:22:23.399 uncover to hit you, Dan. No, I don't know you're 4616 03:22:23.399 --> 03:22:24.239 gonna start hitting them. 4617 03:22:24.639 --> 03:22:28.360 We have to start. I don't want to hit I'm 4618 03:22:28.399 --> 03:22:30.920 talking about Harty. I know you're not gonna hit I've 4619 03:22:30.920 --> 03:22:34.920 been knowing, but it was like bullies and ship. I 4620 03:22:34.959 --> 03:22:37.520 got punched a lot by bullies. Sure. No, No, I 4621 03:22:37.600 --> 03:22:38.920 mean as a result of your. 4622 03:22:38.879 --> 03:22:41.799 Action Mary did at our at the bachelor thing. 4623 03:22:42.239 --> 03:22:45.000 Mary, she Charlie horse you because of the you were 4624 03:22:45.200 --> 03:22:48.200 over her shoulder playing pac Man and you were working 4625 03:22:48.280 --> 03:22:48.639 with her. 4626 03:22:50.399 --> 03:22:51.000 So scary. 4627 03:22:51.120 --> 03:22:53.280 Yeah. At our don't talk Mary. 4628 03:22:53.360 --> 03:22:56.680 At our bachelor Bachelorette Long Island party, there was a 4629 03:22:57.680 --> 03:22:59.079 I don't know, how do you how do you describe it? 4630 03:22:59.120 --> 03:23:01.319 A table top pac Man cabinet. 4631 03:23:01.680 --> 03:23:03.879 I heard this. I heard the tails from from past 4632 03:23:03.920 --> 03:23:05.959 Episod's about your pack man. Yeah. 4633 03:23:06.280 --> 03:23:08.559 I think Dan, you were doing something. You were just 4634 03:23:08.760 --> 03:23:10.000 antagonizing Mary. 4635 03:23:09.879 --> 03:23:13.040 And because I was winning and I was mocking her, 4636 03:23:13.200 --> 03:23:13.760 and at. 4637 03:23:13.639 --> 03:23:16.159 One point she just turned around and walled on your shoulder. 4638 03:23:16.280 --> 03:23:19.079 And that was the That was the only time knowing 4639 03:23:19.159 --> 03:23:23.120 you for how many twelve years now, I actually saw 4640 03:23:23.200 --> 03:23:25.639 you legitimately shut up after. 4641 03:23:25.600 --> 03:23:27.360 Like someone made you stop. 4642 03:23:28.000 --> 03:23:31.520 She's intimidating. She made it very clear, like okay, all right, 4643 03:23:31.559 --> 03:23:32.079 I'm gonna hear. 4644 03:23:32.479 --> 03:23:35.399 I saw, dude, your face, the emotions you went through 4645 03:23:35.959 --> 03:23:37.799 was so funny because I turned we were playing boor 4646 03:23:37.879 --> 03:23:39.159 games at the table where you guys are doing that. 4647 03:23:39.200 --> 03:23:41.600 I turned around and I saw it happen because I 4648 03:23:41.639 --> 03:23:45.159 think I heard like some turmoil. Saw her hit your shoulder, 4649 03:23:45.920 --> 03:23:47.520 and then she went back to playing, and I could 4650 03:23:47.520 --> 03:23:49.360 tell from her face she was legitimately pissed. 4651 03:23:49.399 --> 03:23:51.840 I know her, like you know, we've seen her get 4652 03:23:52.040 --> 03:23:53.200 her temper flare. 4653 03:23:53.760 --> 03:23:54.719 And I saw you like. 4654 03:23:57.159 --> 03:24:00.079 I kind of like not knowing how to adjust to 4655 03:24:00.120 --> 03:24:00.639 clam up a. 4656 03:24:00.639 --> 03:24:03.120 Little bit way out of line, way out of line. 4657 03:24:04.719 --> 03:24:08.040 And then you went, You went into like supportive friend 4658 03:24:08.120 --> 03:24:10.200 mode to her all of a sudden, You're like, no, 4659 03:24:10.479 --> 03:24:11.520 what other option did I. 4660 03:24:13.040 --> 03:24:14.840 She's gonna punch you in the dick if you kept going. 4661 03:24:15.120 --> 03:24:18.440 It was really really nice message. No, look I understood 4662 03:24:18.479 --> 03:24:21.159 what you were saying. Yeah that was at the wine fort. 4663 03:24:23.520 --> 03:24:29.440 But yeah, I think I fart too much. I'm at 4664 03:24:29.479 --> 03:24:30.239 the right spot now. 4665 03:24:30.719 --> 03:24:34.920 Yeah, yeah, I've really gattled it in nice triple. All right, well, 4666 03:24:34.959 --> 03:24:40.520 thank you Brad from Phoenix. That's our episode. That's episode ninety. 4667 03:24:41.440 --> 03:24:43.719 Thank you Mike and Jeff for joining. That was our 4668 03:24:43.760 --> 03:24:45.520 longest one in a while. We haven't gone that long. 4669 03:24:45.600 --> 03:24:47.479 We used to. We like used to approach four hours 4670 03:24:47.520 --> 03:24:50.879 in our early days episode. We're not built for that anymore. 4671 03:24:51.200 --> 03:24:53.200 Combination of a lot of games talk about it, and 4672 03:24:53.239 --> 03:24:55.319 also I feel like when we have guests it's like, well, okay, 4673 03:24:55.360 --> 03:24:57.159 we got four people. 4674 03:24:57.319 --> 03:24:59.520 Does add a little bit extra there it's set of three. 4675 03:24:59.760 --> 03:25:02.319 Yeah, though, thank you too for joining us again that 4676 03:25:02.719 --> 03:25:03.440 I had a great time. 4677 03:25:03.719 --> 03:25:06.479 It's Mike Manati and Jeff Grubb and game Mess and 4678 03:25:06.760 --> 03:25:09.360 also Giant Bomb. You've you've heard both of them on 4679 03:25:09.479 --> 03:25:11.440 the show before and not together. This is my first 4680 03:25:11.479 --> 03:25:15.079 time with both of them on a normal episode. 4681 03:25:15.840 --> 03:25:17.200 Listen to this on Monday. 4682 03:25:17.399 --> 03:25:20.959 On Tuesday night at nine pm on Jeff Grubb's Game 4683 03:25:21.000 --> 03:25:23.920 Mess on YouTube, We'll do Less than the Nintendogs live 4684 03:25:23.959 --> 03:25:26.000 at nine pm Eastern, so you can watch that there. 4685 03:25:26.840 --> 03:25:27.959 It's we have a good time, and then we do 4686 03:25:28.000 --> 03:25:31.559 another show on Thursday. Games Decides What is for those 4687 03:25:31.559 --> 03:25:35.200 who don't know, and it's a Nintendo podcast. It's a 4688 03:25:35.840 --> 03:25:38.239 Nintendo podcast for those who are also in Nintendo prison 4689 03:25:38.319 --> 03:25:38.520 like we. 4690 03:25:38.559 --> 03:25:39.559 Are, yep, yep. 4691 03:25:40.000 --> 03:25:42.879 And if you didn't hey listening to me talk about Disney. 4692 03:25:42.959 --> 03:25:47.159 I do a Disney podcast with my brothers Nineties Disney 4693 03:25:47.280 --> 03:25:49.760 nine Zeros Disney. A new episode we talked about some 4694 03:25:49.840 --> 03:25:54.799 of our most memorable meals cross all of the Disney properties. 4695 03:25:54.920 --> 03:25:57.680 Our next kind of top of the month episode where 4696 03:25:57.680 --> 03:25:59.159 we do our big topics, is going to be a 4697 03:25:59.399 --> 03:26:02.559 be about skewer Is down Under on the more underrated. 4698 03:26:02.680 --> 03:26:05.399 I like that the animated films from the era. 4699 03:26:05.399 --> 03:26:06.879 So yep. I like them when I watch that a 4700 03:26:06.959 --> 03:26:08.479 ton as a kid. Fun fun. 4701 03:26:08.719 --> 03:26:10.959 Also, if you want to watch the worst video games 4702 03:26:11.159 --> 03:26:14.760 of all time, we currently have Mike Manati playing Alone 4703 03:26:14.760 --> 03:26:16.559 in the Dark two thousand and eight for the Wei. 4704 03:26:16.879 --> 03:26:21.280 We just wrapped up Dai Katana with Jeff Grubb. I've 4705 03:26:21.319 --> 03:26:24.120 done Superman sixty four. You can see the wig. If 4706 03:26:24.159 --> 03:26:25.760 you're a video watcher, here. 4707 03:26:25.760 --> 03:26:28.440 Wiggs get me going, Oh yeah, it's good stuff. 4708 03:26:28.559 --> 03:26:32.680 Blake Club is like Mount rushmore like video feature series 4709 03:26:32.719 --> 03:26:36.239 I've ever done. It is so much fucking fun with 4710 03:26:36.360 --> 03:26:39.040 these guys, and it's the worst jed every soon go 4711 03:26:39.120 --> 03:26:42.120 to YouTube and type in blight club and you'll see 4712 03:26:42.159 --> 03:26:43.440 some really really good stuff there. 4713 03:26:44.040 --> 03:26:47.239 Yep, I'm just here, you're fire. 4714 03:26:48.120 --> 03:26:51.440 There's a professional yeah focused. 4715 03:26:53.440 --> 03:26:55.600 No, I'm not in my free time, I'm not focused, 4716 03:26:55.639 --> 03:26:59.520 but professionally, yeah, I'm just here. And then day job 4717 03:26:59.559 --> 03:27:07.200 stuff is it's not forward facing. Yeah, ninety episodes. I 4718 03:27:07.280 --> 03:27:10.760 think we we did the math work in like January February. 4719 03:27:11.719 --> 03:27:13.799 We'll get more. We'll have more news. 4720 03:27:13.760 --> 03:27:16.280 Coming out soon about Game of the Year stuff in 4721 03:27:16.319 --> 03:27:20.159 November when Mary's back. Oh yeah, we didn't like. Mary's 4722 03:27:20.559 --> 03:27:24.200 just traveling again. Yeah, we all got to hang out 4723 03:27:24.440 --> 03:27:26.079 last week in Portland, which is super fun. 4724 03:27:26.840 --> 03:27:26.959 Uh. 4725 03:27:27.440 --> 03:27:31.920 Really, he's on that Saudi bullet train one I think, Yeah, 4726 03:27:32.120 --> 03:27:32.760 it's the only one. 4727 03:27:33.719 --> 03:27:36.680 She's going to a Nixon nostalgia convention. 4728 03:27:38.760 --> 03:27:43.120 The water Gate. We will be back in two weeks. 4729 03:27:43.360 --> 03:27:45.280 We'll have more news about Game of the Year stuff. 4730 03:27:45.079 --> 03:27:49.399 Coming out soon where Zelda probably talk about Zelda and 4731 03:27:50.079 --> 03:27:51.680 I think that's about it. If you want to go 4732 03:27:51.920 --> 03:27:54.920 to uh fire skit cast dot com, you can become 4733 03:27:54.920 --> 03:27:57.840 a patron member Patreon member. If you're not already to 4734 03:27:57.920 --> 03:28:01.120 get ad free episodes or video episodes or just uh 4735 03:28:01.559 --> 03:28:03.280 you can treat like a tip jar. If you appreciate 4736 03:28:03.319 --> 03:28:04.959 what we do, you can also go to fire skate 4737 03:28:05.079 --> 03:28:08.719 merch dot com. Do you want to get sweatshirts, crop tops, 4738 03:28:09.000 --> 03:28:09.719 swim trunks? 4739 03:28:10.200 --> 03:28:10.319 Uh? 4740 03:28:10.799 --> 03:28:13.079 Past the season for in most parts of the world, 4741 03:28:13.280 --> 03:28:14.799 or rather in our parts of the world. 4742 03:28:14.879 --> 03:28:17.120 But but the most important thing to book mark is 4743 03:28:17.280 --> 03:28:18.399 Fuckjake dot Org. 4744 03:28:18.719 --> 03:28:21.799 Everyone should about this. 4745 03:28:23.319 --> 03:28:26.079 Why give them the ogin right? Why fan those flames 4746 03:28:26.280 --> 03:28:27.440 for someone so well? 4747 03:28:27.879 --> 03:28:31.479 This was button here. 4748 03:28:36.239 --> 03:28:38.520 We have not gotten any emails about this or tweets 4749 03:28:38.600 --> 03:28:43.000 or anything import If you listen to the last episode 4750 03:28:43.000 --> 03:28:44.639 we talked, do I want to describe? No, Dan, you 4751 03:28:44.680 --> 03:28:46.399 explained this because this was your fucking ploy. I don't 4752 03:28:46.399 --> 03:28:49.120 feel like, no, it was This is all Jake. 4753 03:28:50.639 --> 03:28:52.639 We did the whole bit that just came up about like, 4754 03:28:52.719 --> 03:28:54.719 oh Jake dot org and we're gonna, like, you know, 4755 03:28:54.799 --> 03:28:56.120 talk like Jake sucks or whatever. 4756 03:28:56.559 --> 03:28:58.959 Uh, And then I think one of us might have 4757 03:28:59.000 --> 03:29:00.559 been you, Mike saying like, oh yea, somebody. 4758 03:29:00.440 --> 03:29:02.040 Even tell them what it is. Just say like, look 4759 03:29:02.079 --> 03:29:04.760 what Jake did go to he bought dot org and. 4760 03:29:04.840 --> 03:29:09.200 Yeah, okay, Jake Decker, while editing this podcast bought Fuckjake 4761 03:29:09.319 --> 03:29:09.760 dot Org. 4762 03:29:09.920 --> 03:29:12.079 He gambled on the fact that we had not yet 4763 03:29:12.200 --> 03:29:13.760 actually purchased it because he. 4764 03:29:13.799 --> 03:29:18.520 Was and he just go to it. And then we 4765 03:29:18.639 --> 03:29:20.040 were in his career as a Jedi and with the 4766 03:29:20.079 --> 03:29:23.079 mental told the job took proved too much for our 4767 03:29:23.159 --> 03:29:26.200 brave adventure. He now writes and plays games, seeking a 4768 03:29:26.239 --> 03:29:28.159 middle ground that allows him to do both for a living, 4769 03:29:28.440 --> 03:29:31.159 rather than them distracting him from the work he is 4770 03:29:31.200 --> 03:29:31.760 getting paid for. 4771 03:29:32.000 --> 03:29:35.440 In that middle ground, mic you do it get their buddies. 4772 03:29:35.680 --> 03:29:39.479 We were sitting at a picnic table in Oregon when. 4773 03:29:40.680 --> 03:29:43.239 For a party and uh, and Dan said something like 4774 03:29:43.799 --> 03:29:45.360 I should have known something was up, because that's not 4775 03:29:45.440 --> 03:29:46.879 how U r L's work. You're like, you should go 4776 03:29:46.959 --> 03:29:49.120 there and see if see if it tells you how. 4777 03:29:49.079 --> 03:29:50.840 To buy it, how much it costs. Yeah, And I 4778 03:29:50.920 --> 03:29:52.479 was like, that's not how they work. I would have 4779 03:29:52.559 --> 03:29:55.000 to go to hover. And then we had a bunch 4780 03:29:55.040 --> 03:29:56.879 of people around us, and so I went. 4781 03:29:57.079 --> 03:29:59.840 And then like Dan was watching me intently across the 4782 03:30:00.120 --> 03:30:01.600 table so you couldn't see my screen, and he saw 4783 03:30:01.680 --> 03:30:04.319 and like it dawned on me, and I was so impressed. 4784 03:30:04.360 --> 03:30:05.159 I wasn't even angry. 4785 03:30:05.440 --> 03:30:07.959 No, you dropped your phone and immediately put your head 4786 03:30:07.959 --> 03:30:10.319 in your hands. Yes, right, and then I was like, 4787 03:30:10.479 --> 03:30:15.600 surrender program. No, it's all Jake, No, you did mindropoculous? 4788 03:30:16.799 --> 03:30:18.840 Did you like a kid from kidd and play where 4789 03:30:18.840 --> 03:30:19.680 you're wearing this wig? 4790 03:30:20.360 --> 03:30:22.440 Yeah? I just I'm just reading some of your old 4791 03:30:22.479 --> 03:30:26.719 stories on gaming next this and also like that. That's 4792 03:30:26.799 --> 03:30:29.680 it's still going good for them. Yeah. Uh based out 4793 03:30:29.719 --> 03:30:32.879 of Ohio. A few of them. What oh man, we 4794 03:30:32.959 --> 03:30:33.559 gotta do something. 4795 03:30:33.760 --> 03:30:35.239 We don't like that, Jeff and I like saying we're 4796 03:30:35.280 --> 03:30:37.319 the largest gaming media company in Ohio. 4797 03:30:37.559 --> 03:30:41.399 Yeah, at least they were when I was. I went 4798 03:30:41.399 --> 03:30:43.079 to my first E three with them, I did GDC. 4799 03:30:43.360 --> 03:30:46.079 They were good, good dudes, brought me on and that's 4800 03:30:46.079 --> 03:30:48.600 how I got my my portfolio going. 4801 03:30:49.799 --> 03:30:50.280 Off the gray. 4802 03:30:52.000 --> 03:30:55.959 This is a post game informer. Right, Well, I'm seeing 4803 03:30:55.959 --> 03:30:58.200 your E three twenty thirteen stuff. Where were you like 4804 03:30:58.280 --> 03:30:58.959 twenty twelve? 4805 03:30:59.120 --> 03:31:01.239 Ish? I was fall twenty twelve. 4806 03:31:01.280 --> 03:31:05.159 I think I would have started, Yeah, maybe the Gaming 4807 03:31:05.239 --> 03:31:08.360 Extus after no, because I would have had stuff samples 4808 03:31:08.399 --> 03:31:09.200 to send to Miller. 4809 03:31:09.639 --> 03:31:11.159 Oh good, we have a ton of like E three 4810 03:31:11.239 --> 03:31:12.159 twenty thirteen stuff. 4811 03:31:12.280 --> 03:31:14.920 I remember the last of us. I had gotten a 4812 03:31:15.000 --> 03:31:18.280 bunch of people. It was similar to BioShock in what 4813 03:31:18.440 --> 03:31:18.799 year was that? 4814 03:31:20.600 --> 03:31:22.600 Thirteen? You have your Last of Us things? Last of 4815 03:31:22.680 --> 03:31:23.760 Us is your last. 4816 03:31:24.079 --> 03:31:27.840 Oh sorry, so last BioShock Infinite, I believe came in 4817 03:31:27.959 --> 03:31:30.399 when we were all at GDC, and the Last of 4818 03:31:30.520 --> 03:31:32.159 Us came in while we were all at E three. 4819 03:31:32.280 --> 03:31:34.280 So I had to rush when I got home, immediately 4820 03:31:34.319 --> 03:31:36.559 downloaded to play it to review it, which I didn't. 4821 03:31:36.840 --> 03:31:39.200 It was, you know, I was still new to everything 4822 03:31:39.239 --> 03:31:42.399 it was. It was great, Yeah, A nine, you said 4823 03:31:42.440 --> 03:31:45.000 it excellent, better for worse. The Last of Us is 4824 03:31:45.079 --> 03:31:47.360 hard to experience most of the time. This is a 4825 03:31:47.559 --> 03:31:49.799 very good thing. I wouldn't use vary by the way 4826 03:31:49.879 --> 03:31:52.159 you say great instead of very good. Just a little 4827 03:31:52.200 --> 03:31:54.799 bit there as seems a violence and survival pushed the 4828 03:31:54.840 --> 03:31:56.159 plot toward it effective. 4829 03:31:56.200 --> 03:31:59.200 Have you met Dandala Jesus No at the bottom of 4830 03:31:59.280 --> 03:32:00.920 his Last of Us view, it's at the bottom of 4831 03:32:01.000 --> 03:32:02.159 all of his work because. 4832 03:32:04.079 --> 03:32:06.200 It's on a mousepad at fire Scape mergs dot com. 4833 03:32:06.440 --> 03:32:10.239 Don't if I still There's gonna come a day when 4834 03:32:10.239 --> 03:32:11.840 I'm gonna see that shirt in the wild and I'm. 4835 03:32:11.680 --> 03:32:13.239 Gonna Oh, it's gonna be good. 4836 03:32:13.319 --> 03:32:15.479 You're gonna have to raise some pros and cons in 4837 03:32:15.520 --> 03:32:18.280 my head. But anyway, thank you, Mike, Thank you Jeff. 4838 03:32:18.879 --> 03:32:20.639 Yeah, it's always fine. Thank you. 4839 03:32:20.920 --> 03:32:24.280 I'm sure you'll be on again. First person episode. I 4840 03:32:24.319 --> 03:32:27.520 believe outside of Game of the Year of bonus episodes. 4841 03:32:27.600 --> 03:32:29.319 We're gonna be our grandkids about this. 4842 03:32:29.520 --> 03:32:34.040 Yeah, of course, they'll know all about my barts and how. 4843 03:32:34.000 --> 03:32:37.479 I catch reat your exploits. Yeah, it's all chronicled. 4844 03:32:38.040 --> 03:32:41.879 We'll see everybody again in two weeks for episode ninety one. 4845 03:32:42.040 --> 03:32:44.440 Thank you so much for joining tonight. We'll see you soon, 4846 03:32:45.920 --> 03:32:46.120 bab