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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. This is a bonus episode,

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you guys. I've been loving this season of ninety de Fiance,

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season twelve. It is so good. This past week was great.

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This next week looks to be amazing as well. So

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I'm very excited to say I have an interview today

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with Paula of Paula and Thomas. Welcome to the show, Paula.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Mary Pain. I'm very happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Your hair has gotten longer, I think since we've seen

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you on the show.

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Speaker 2: It is. It is a little bit longer, and yeahs

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I'd like you to have longer hair, so I'm trying

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to keep it longer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks great, well, yeah, I do. It's pretty. Yeah,

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it's a good color. It's a good color.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I need to know from what we saw

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on the show, you met Thomas because you guys were

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playing volleyball in like the La Long Beach area. You

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were listening, Okay, So.

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Speaker 2: I was visiting in Mosa Beach.

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Speaker 1: Okay beach. Yes, So if you were in town visiting

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and then you decide to date, how did you find

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your way onto ninety eight Beyance? How did you get

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on the show.

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Speaker 2: Because everybody since I started dating him, since I started

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to date Thomas, everybody always say, you guys should do

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none deficiency, you should do no defense and I in

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that time I never heard about because in Brazil, I

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was like, I'm very busy working and for TV, like

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it's rare now I have, but in that time, I

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was very busy growing my business and I was like,

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what is this? And then I started doing some research

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and I say that was the biggest reality show on

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the United States, and I was like, wow, that's huge.

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But people say that over and over again, only like

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just for me and for him, like as well all

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the time, and then we decided to sign up.

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Speaker 1: Amazing. I mean, I think it's such an interesting story

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when people meet very organically, like you had a common

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interest playing volleyball on the beach. Yeah, okay, So tell

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me about your career in Brazil because you were you

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said you were you had a piercing a piercing shop,

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So explain all about that please. I'm dying to that.

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Speaker 2: I created the first piercing branch shop in Brazil. So

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it's not just a piercing studio, it's a jury shop.

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Like it's more fancy luxury because in Brazil, piercing was

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something very niche, like about uh tribes like like Rocker.

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Speaker 1: Yes, dark Key.

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Speaker 2: And then I saw one opportunity to put my personality

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on the business and I create the first brand of

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luxury piercing shop. So today we are way more than

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a piercing studio. A piercing studio the person goals to

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just piercing their body. We are personal piercer, which means

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like we do personalize it projects. And I learned all

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this because I started working with celebrities in Brazil and

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they was very specific and I was like, okay, so

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the same way there's a personal stylist, personal shopper, personal trainer,

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why not a personal piercer. Then I developed my niche

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all around this. It was very hard because in Brazil

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everyone was against it is a business that is dominated

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was dominated by manure man, you know, and I got

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lots of haters, a lot, but I grow very fast.

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So in six months, I bought a house, car, I

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had money to travel. It was a magical thing that

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happens to me. And today our targets it's woman, but

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not because they want to pierce their body and they

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want to look radical. No, it's only luxury womans that

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they want to increase their appearance. They want to have

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the only ear is styling. So it's not body piercing,

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it's ear. It's styly piercing. And uh, we do projects

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that match with the person personalities and healing process. This

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never had in the market in all over the world.

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So I'm the first one that's doing this. And also

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I'm writing a book about this. Yeah, so so will

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be Yeah that's cool.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, my Dag has a lot of piercings on

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her ears and stuff, and she has something recently that

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I also recently saw when I was on a Virgin

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cruise and they had like a piercing tattoo studio there

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and I saw people coming in and my daughter just

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got it under your ears and it's called like fairy

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bites or something, and it's three little tiny ones and

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like a little star formation, like a little tiny triangle formation,

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like tiny tiny It's very cute.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is. I created one technique Australian piercings, three

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little diamonds on the cardilage right here, so if I

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can show.

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Speaker 1: You, yes, and uh, this three little one here, Yes cute.

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Speaker 2: I traded market then in Brazil and become viral. So

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these guys was responsible like for maybe half of my

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career because piercing in that time the symbol of rebel

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and being more crazy can And then I came with

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something super tiny, feminine and delicate. And this like the

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first day that I launched this. In the day after,

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I got almost one thousand messages on my what's up.

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People was asking like I want to do?

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Speaker 1: I want to do?

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Speaker 2: And then all the new piercing era started because I

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was like, okay, I have a mission here. I worked

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with piercing since two thousand and three, so more than

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twenty years a go. Yeah, I failed more than ten

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business in Brazil, piercing business, and I insisted every business

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I was insisting, and I was like, there's something wrong

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and I'm gonna found what, like what can I do?

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So I used my knowledge as a like accessory designer

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and I combined piercing with with like with a sux

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serry sorry my English with a sexer designer. So I

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started to create visuals that it was more feminine, more personalized,

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more delicate, and because woman wants to get piercing, but

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they don't look like younger or crazy, or they don't

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want to impose one personality that doesn't match with their work.

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They are lawyers, they are doctors, they are woman with kids.

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They just want to look pretty and right. Yeah, and

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then I created the solution not only piercing, but cleaning,

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maintaining and like everything. So it's it's very good, y'all.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but it's been so hot here,

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and ninety five degrees outside feels like one hundred and

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twenty degrees inside your pants. Am I right? You can

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As listeners to this show know, we talk about bidets

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on our reality shows a lot. So many of our

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ninety day fiancees come over to the US and they're

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stunned that every home does not have a bidet, and

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all the Americans end up getting one and loving it.

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I would be willingked to bet that most of them

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are getting a Tushue bidet. I just got one. It

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was so easy to install. Seriously, it took me ten

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minutes and I'm not a handy person. Remember how easy

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it was for Rashii to install his new bidet at

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Mallory's house. He was so excited about his clean buttthole,

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and he wanted her to have a clean buttthole too.

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Now that's love. Now, Rasheet's new bidet looked great in

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her bathroom, and my new bidet looks great in my bathroom.

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off and let me know how you like. Well, okay,

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so you have this very successful business over there and

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you decide to move to the United States. Now, what's

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that been like? So I assume you're still running this business,

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but you're with Thomas in the United States, Like, that

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must have been a very hard decision.

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Speaker 2: It was a very hard decision. But I'm very ambitious

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in a good way. I am actually opening my second

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business in Brazil, and I'm looking for business partners to

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open my franchise model. I had this vision and I'm

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gonna do the same in the United States because I

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think in my business, my business model helps women. They

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do doctor appointments, they need, they do like like events

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like wedding and all social things. Then they need a

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personal percy like it is more than styling once in

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a while, they need the like could they go to

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the hairstylist or nil or nail designer. So I think

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I will help lots of women.

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Speaker 1: That's that's cool. So are you trying to open that

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Speaker 2: I yes, I am, Yes, I love that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be very successful. Okay, now tell

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me about the miniatures, because this has gotten a lot

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of attention, and with Thomas's sort of super minimalistic style,

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which I'd say is like maximalistic. I just said he

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should give you just one little corner shelving unit and

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you could put all your things in there and then

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all your stuff contained. So are you do you have

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your miniatures in the States, Because I really I want

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that for you, because I love the little minish my unaitures.

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Speaker 2: They are more than just cute things. They are tools

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for manifestation. Yes, well, everyone that I had like one another.

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use it for a tool that helps me to manifest

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my reality. And they really works. They really work. And

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uh Thomas, uh, he doesn't want it because he thought

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that was silly. And it was very hard for me

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to collect them in the United States because the house

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was so empty that I don't have any place to

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put them. So yes, because I need to see them

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every day and I need to to interact with them,

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and I and like there was all in a box

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and it was kind of messing with my process because

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I need to to see them. So I have one

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here like right now.

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Speaker 1: That's it. It's a little teacup.

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Speaker 2: It is just for us talking right now. So I

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am manifesting a very good talk and uh that I

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can express myself good because you know, English is not

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my first language. So this is like a way that

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I'm manifesting a good conversation and people understand me and

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my point.

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Speaker 1: But that to me means that you're gonna spell the tea.

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That's what that means to me. You're gonna spell the tea.

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You're gonna tell me everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, maybe I can do it. I can

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just throw out yeah, so cute. So Thomas doesn't he

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doesn't accept too well because he thought that was silly.

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Speaker 1: I think it is effective. I'll tell you that. My

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listeners know. For years I said I always wanted to

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have a beach house because we live here in Virginia

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and there's no beach nearby, but we go to a

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certain beach in North Carolina that I loved, loved it

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for twenty years. So about maybe five years ago, instead

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of saying I hope one day I have a beach house,

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I started saying I will have a beach house. And

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when I have my beach house, and guess what, last

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year we got a beach house. You have to really

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think about it, you have to really in my mind,

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it really works. You just have to really put your

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: It's not just because it came to me and somebody.

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Speaker 2: Gave it to me. I mean, we bought it manifested, but.

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Speaker 1: I manifested like I know it's going to happen for

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me and I just have to talk it into existence.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly the process that I do. I am

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manifesting so many things at the same time that the miniatures,

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and not only the miniatures. I have cell phone live

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screen protection with my vision board, and I have my

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manifesting routine that I do every day. So it really

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works and fast, really fest So for you have an idea,

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there was a celebrity in Brazil and I started to

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think about her manifest and do her ear styling. One

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week after she messaged me.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's cool. Now would we know who that is?

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Speaker 2: It's a TV singer. She's called Pablo Guitar. Okay, okay,

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And does she message me and say, hey, I want

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to do my ear styling because I saw your your

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Instagram it's very beautiful. One week after see it is

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very fast. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I have a question. Can you get Thomas like a

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tiny perfume bottle and tell him you're manifesting him, not

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to pretend he's allergic to perfume.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I bought miniature of perfume. I bought well like

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last year and filming. I was trying because perfume for

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me is something so important. I love perfume, Like in

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my apartment, I have dozens of and the fact that

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Thomas attacked my habits so bad, and I was trying

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to found every solution that I could. So I bought

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a tiny perfume miniature and I put it on the

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like on the restroom. So I put the training me

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and him to see a tiny bottle and get used

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it to like I could bring you one real one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, has he found something that he can tolerate that

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you also like.

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Speaker 2: He tolerates some things that is not chemistry, So even

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for cleaning products are perfume or anything needs to be

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natural vegan, no chemistry, supernatural, which just makes sense. My

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brother have the same issue.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: When we was filming, my brother was super sick because

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of the carpet. Oh, he was so sick because he

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was no voice, and there was wondering to rent one

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like hotel or something. But I wanted to be with

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my like my family together, and I said, please don't

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go and stay here. He was dying, but he was

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in the apartment because of me, my brother. So I

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kind of understand Thomas, but he's not open. He was

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not open to looking for solutions because my brother is

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also super allergic. But we can live with him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like he's not.

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Speaker 2: Dictator and period No, and he's a dictator. He is

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like no, no conversation, period.

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Speaker 1: He's very dramatic. He's very dramatic about the perfume.

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Speaker 2: Super super He's dramatic about everything.

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Speaker 1: He's what is he? Somebody told me he is a

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aerospace engineer. What is his career?

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Speaker 2: He's an aerospace engineer and he works with computers, so

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he's a like engineer for computer and he builds projects

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for biggie companies. He's a super smart guy. And uh,

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he lives in another world that it's hard to access.

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And sometimes I ask him myself, Hi, I I accessed

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him because before me, he only had one girlfriend. He

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never introduced any girl to his family, he never lived

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with someone, he never nothing. So me, in a certain way,

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I could. I had access to a very weird person,

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which makes which makes me worry because we attracted who

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who we are are are are things that we need

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to feel ourselves of. It is then that makes made

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me think a lot like what the universe is trying

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to tell me with this relationship.

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Speaker 1: With very opposite you're very opposite.

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Speaker 2: Complimentary, in a in a in a seeking way.

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Speaker 1: You commentary, Yes, that's nicer. Yes, the world wants to know.

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The world wants to know if you've gotten a dresser

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or if your underwear isn't bend in the closet.

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Speaker 2: I got a dresser the other space, which is bigger,

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and I could put all my clothes. But it's it's

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so little comparing with the one that I have in Brazil.

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But it was a beginning. So I got a bigger

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dresser and I could see all my stuff, very organized it.

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I am very methodic, so I need to see my

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clothes and everything. And it was very good. It was

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a piece of of of peace. Yes, my mind was

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freaking so much watching the show back, I feel so

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bad for myself because I was so vulnerable. I was neil.

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My English wasn't that good? Not this is amazing today,

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but it's better. And I was so patient. I was like,

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why am I so patient? Am I giving so much?

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I was trying to be evolved being and trying to

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do not lower my highest my voice. I was trying

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to be a person, you know, very calm. But with

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some people we find a way of communication, and that

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is not with Thomas at all. You don't respect as

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much as I try to becolm and evolve and very

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amazing and simpl he sit over me.

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Speaker 1: So it's crazy because his point was, well, when you

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go on vacation, you can live out of a suitcase,

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but you're not on vacate, you've moved there. So since

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you've moved there, I think that your point was so

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valid and could go for anybody on this show, which

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is I just expect what I had at my house.

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I'm not expecting more. Just what I had at my

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house was a closet, dresser and a couch, So I

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need these things at my new house. I'm not expecting more.

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I just need to say yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: But was a surprise for me because lots of shades

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of his personality I never knew because we was dating

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long distance for so many years and it doesn't knew

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these shades. And then when I saw, I was in shock,

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and I ended off all their relationship, like with other boyfriends,

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in a very dramatic way, because as I start to

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be crazy and like yelling, you know, and I try

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to be as much peaceful as I could. But it

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was really hard because he tested me in all way possible.

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And it is not because I saw some people say

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online like oh she have money, she is lying because

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she is not poor. It is not because of that,

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because when you move to a place and you have

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someone else, you need to do together. Yes, so I

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think it is not worth I bring my money from Brazil,

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which is very little. If I convert my current money

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to us, it's it is nothing and all my money

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right now, I am using to invest and grow my business.

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So I just bought a new room.

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Speaker 1: Very big.

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Speaker 2: We are building. It is very expensive because it's like

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it is luxury and I don't have money.

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Speaker 1: To like an address addresser is not very by the way,

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you can get a cute dresser for not much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, before we start to date, he had some good

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plans like oh uh, we're gonna leave, You're gonna build

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it our life with me, You're gonna do everything beautiful,

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blah blah blah. And then when I went to the US,

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there was nothing, and I was patient with nothing, but

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it was like when what is next?

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Speaker 1: Patient about two days with nowhere to put my clothes? Okay,

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but I have a question about that apartment. So we

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all agree that the table is ridiculous and you need it.

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It's not hard also to buy. You could get all

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these things at Target or Costco. But if the money

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is the issue. But is this apartment one bedroom and

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he has a bed in the bedroom and a bed

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in the living room.

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Speaker 2: No, his apartment is two bedrooms. So there's a bedroom

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and it's actually it's a bedroom, and then there's a

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living room that he turns into another bedroom because he

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has a he had a bed. Then he turns into

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a couch.

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Speaker 1: No, it's a bed. There's a difference. You need a couch.

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It's so funny on this season too with Katie and Josh,

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and it's it's similar. But all he's asking for is

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a place to sit, and she's like, we can sit

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on the floor. He's like, my back hurts. We're in

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a twin bed. All I'm asking for is a couch.

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And every time we see Josh and he's in that

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one office chair where like he has one chair, and

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I was like, it's like, Paula, all she wants is

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a couch. And I love how You're like, here's the

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tiny couch. We're manifesting it, we're looking at it. We're

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going to get a couch. So I hope as the

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season goes, you get to decorate this apartment and get

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a couch, yes, instead of a bed.

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Speaker 2: I try my best to show in a very polite

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to it the thing that I wanted. But Thomas, he

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has a very straight mind. I kind of understand why

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his parents got divorce, his dad and his that mom

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lives in a trailer, like on a trailer so the

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way because I like to think to see things from

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behind the way that he do with his life. He

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doesn't want to have anything because it's easy to move on.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't want to attach. And it's weird because I

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told him many times say, hey, I can't live in

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a place that I that I don't feel good. I

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can't my apartment. It's it is beautiful, and I want

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to the same place that I feel comfortable that I

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look at it like oh my place, and I like it,

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and I don't feel happy here. I try it, I

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really try.

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Speaker 1: That's very interesting because we do see a couple of

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weeks ago we saw with his dad and his stepmom,

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and then I know on a coming episode. We've seen

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some previews where you're going to be talking to his stepmom,

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and I think that thing that was very interesting how

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the stepmom, you know, with editing and production, it comes

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across like she's really harsh, but I think it seems

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that she was really hurt because she was so close

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to Thomas. And then he's going back to his biological mom,

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who seems, for all intents and purposes, left him as

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a child, which is shocking and now but you can't

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blame him for, as an adult trying to make a

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connection with her. But you can also see the side

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of the stepmother who's very hurt. So is that that's

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going to play out with how she was mad at

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you and she explains to you, did you know this

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situation with his mother and his stepmother? Did you know

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how deep it was?

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Speaker 2: It doesn't knew because he spoke very little about his

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parents and his family at all. And the first two

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years that I was dating him, I thought that he

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was a skin because I knew nobody from his side,

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and I was like, I need to see something. And

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then he introduced me his auntie and then his sister,

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and then I started to trust. But it was very

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weird and the relationship that he has with his stepmom

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answered many things about his personality today that builds him. Yeah,

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which is I like about personal self like evolving. It's

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because you can go back there and fix things as

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a mature person and grew up in your life. Because life,

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it is not being victim of a situation. His parents

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got the fought on the court for thirty five times

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when he was a kid.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot for a kid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that don't but that. I try to tell

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him that that doesn't define him. So he should use

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that to grow and be very voted and maybe inspire

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other young guys, you know. But he he wants to

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be in a state that he's a victim, that he

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doesn't want any because it's better. He want a very

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empty place because if if he loses his job, it

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is easy to move on. So he also he always

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manifests in bad things. If I lose my job, if

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I don't need where to go, if I blah blah blah,

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and I am the positive, I am manifesting more like

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one more place in Brazil, yes, in the West, one

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place in Europe. I am always you know, working, And

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he's thinking about the worst.

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Speaker 1: That bothers me a lot see like you could really

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help him though, because he's coming from a negative face

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and he's coming from childhood trauma of I don't want

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to have a lot of things in case I have

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to move quickly, and you're coming from a pace of like, no,

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let's settle and let's manifest that everything will continue to

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go well, and you won't. You will keep your job,

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you will get a better job, You'll continue to go up.

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And I that's very interesting. And I think the dynamic

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with his stepmom and his dad and what we're going

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to see about her explaining to you about the mother

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is fascinating. It's very sad to think that that happened

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to him, But like you said, now they're adults and

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maybe he can on his little part, he can fix it.

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That's you guys are so it's so interesting how opposite

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you are. But I like how you said, but you

477
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can also be complementary and help each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I help more than he helped me.

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 2: So that's trying to be nice, yes, And the thing

481
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is between his parents, It is very hard, especially with

482
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his mom. He tried to connect it to his mom

483
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all during the filming for She Yeah, up, and filming,

484
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and she never wanted. That makes him very upset. He doesn't.

485
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They don't talk like for a while.

486
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Speaker 1: Because and it's hard to just sort of like live

487
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in the moment of like let me be grateful for

488
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just my father and my stepmother and let that part

489
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of my life go. It's hard, I think, especially if

490
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that's your if you're your parent. Yeah, it's that's rough.

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Now tell me about your family in Brazil.

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Speaker 2: My family is super especial. We are very attached. Of course,

493
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we have problems, of course, but we are here to evolve.

494
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So I came to from a very poor family. We

495
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live it in a very poor place in Brazil. I

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had nothing besides my brain to think and in my

497
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in my future. And my mom she also had a

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vision for me and my siblings, and she even when

499
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we was kids kids, she always put us to do

500
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things school. So we did the swimming classes, which in

501
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:20,440
that time for for like those kids was something very huge.

502
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But she was always and and she put us in

503
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a computer classes and uh so she was helping us

504
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to evolve as a as a person. And uh and

505
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my siblings we are winners in all uh like aspectus

506
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of life. We we we are doing our best. So

507
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like we have our businesses. Uh, our goals are I

508
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don't know how in English, but we are very good.

509
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And uh we came from nothing, so that that that

510
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makes me feel very resilient because when I hear people say, oh,

511
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I have nothing, I'm poor, blah blah blah. I came

512
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from nothing and I build everything, so I do some people.

513
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I need to have more patient with people when they

514
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say that they are in a very sensitive way. That's

515
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why Universe send me Thomas to give me the opportunity

516
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of me work with my patient really yeah, yes, and

517
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:26,640
my empathy for sure.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that you are so interesting and so

519
00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:34,000
inspirational and I'm really like looking forward to seeing how

520
00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:36,559
this all plays out on the show. But tell everybody

521
00:32:36,599 --> 00:32:39,440
that's listening how they can find out about your business

522
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:42,759
and where to follow you, because it sounds fascinating your business.

523
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:44,720
So tell everybody where we can follow you and find

524
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,640
out about your business.

525
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,799
Speaker 2: Sure, my Instagram is open. I'm trying to make content

526
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in English and in Portuguese.

527
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Speaker 1: Okay, it is a mix.

528
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Speaker 2: And also my TikTok they both are just Paulina nick

529
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,839
name me in Portuguese, which means little Paula, so it

530
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,799
is very hard to spell in English, so people call

531
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:13,599
me in Brazil Paulina, but it's just Paulina and uh.

532
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:20,039
You can also found me on my jurist studio called

533
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Piercing Joya and uh I'll be in the US and

534
00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:32,319
uh I'll be doing uh very beautiful ear stylist like

535
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,079
not me. I want to training people. I want to

536
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:38,440
develop my business, so I want to just be the

537
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,319
Peerson business owner and I want to training people. Tell

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me that I do, like with my employees in Brazil.

539
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So that's what I do, and I also want I am.

540
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,039
I am kind of receiving some message from people and

541
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,680
they say that I inspire them and they want to

542
00:33:56,759 --> 00:34:02,400
learn more about manifestation and everything. I never thinking about

543
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,720
that in a way that I could teach other people.

544
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:08,840
But now I am start to study and to put

545
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,079
in words all the methods that I use and worked

546
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,559
with me. Yes, and how you teach other people.

547
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: Soon you should show it on your TikTok, like you

548
00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:21,880
showed the little teacup. That's an example, and you're saying

549
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,679
that you put the little perfume in the bathroom, so

550
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,760
you see it, and he sees it and it gets

551
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,639
into your I think it's fascinating. I think you should

552
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,400
do that on your TikTok. I think you would get

553
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,199
a lot of people that were interested.

554
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:33,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

555
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very nice to meet you. And I can't

556
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:39,079
wait to watch the rest of the season. And I

557
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:42,440
can't wait to see the tell all and I love

558
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:44,920
the tell all when everybody gets to meet, and I

559
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,360
think that's always interesting too. I don't want anybody to fight,

560
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:49,760
but I like to see when everybody gets to have

561
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,480
opinions on other people's stories.

562
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Speaker 2: You know. Yes, it is a pleasure being on the show.

563
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,360
I never watched before, and I think was good because

564
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:10,920
I came into that myself, all my vulnerabilities, like everything

565
00:35:11,199 --> 00:35:15,199
was one hundred percent me and I honestly watched myself

566
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,800
there and I and I feel stronger now, I feel

567
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,159
more resilient. So it was a pleasure to be part

568
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:25,079
of that. And what's the dream? I also manifested be

569
00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:29,639
in any defiancy, so so what's the dream that became true? Yeah,

570
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,519
it's very fun.

571
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Speaker 1: Well, thank you again, and everybody go follow Paulina and

572
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,000
I will let like I want, I will not let

573
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:40,480
I will link I will link all of her socials

574
00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:43,079
here on this interview, so you can go and follow her,

575
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,599
follow her and see all her tiny things and all

576
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:46,559
her menifectations.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Mary pay Bye bye,