Speaker 1: It's night with Dan Ray.
Speaker 2: I'm tell you easy.
Speaker 3: I'll thank you again for the kind intro. Two hours down,
Speaker 3: two hours to go. By the way. Tomorrow, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: have doctor David Nathan on, probably the most knowledgeable person
Speaker 3: in the United States in regards to diabetes. So that'll
Speaker 3: be on eight to nine, nine o'clock. I'll have Beer
Speaker 3: Dave on, a regular guest that I've used over the
Speaker 3: past decade plus, and he'll be telling you what's new
Speaker 3: with your favorite logger, dB Cooper. She'll be on from
Speaker 3: ten to eleven. And she's a voice actress and she
Speaker 3: went out to Hollywood and made a major name for
Speaker 3: herself and she does all kinds of things voice work
Speaker 3: on game shows and commercials, et cetera. And speaking of speech,
Speaker 3: Dennis Becker, who was a teacher of mine way back
Speaker 3: in high school. He has a company called the Speech
Speaker 3: Improvement Company. He'll be on and give you some pointers
Speaker 3: how to put a better foot forward when you communicate
Speaker 3: with somebody, specially first impressions. So that'll be my lineup tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Because I'm here tomorrow night filling in for Nightside Dan Ray.
Speaker 3: I will not be at the midway restaurant where I
Speaker 3: normally can be found six to seven thirty on Tuesdays,
Speaker 3: but I'll be there next week and now tonight for
Speaker 3: two hours. A gentleman who I have used twice as
Speaker 3: nice as the old saying goes, because I use him
Speaker 3: to talk baseball and I use him to talk about
Speaker 3: the National Park system. He used to be a member,
Speaker 3: He was a race at one point, retired better every
Speaker 3: now and then, he still dips his toe into the
Speaker 3: National park waters here in Boston and beyond. Please welcome. Yes,
Speaker 3: I know his full name is Richard Duranto, but we
Speaker 3: just call him Dixie. How are you, Dixie?
Speaker 1: Hello Morgan, Hello Gray, Hello Nancy?
Speaker 3: And do you know Gray was asleep on the table
Speaker 3: and he was using a com rex for a pillow.
Speaker 3: He had his head on the com rex. Yeah, getting
Speaker 3: a quick forty winks.
Speaker 1: Another forty winks.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, Cat. So tell people what you're going
Speaker 3: to be doing tonight.
Speaker 1: Well, we hope to be talking about National parks. We
Speaker 1: don't know what condition they're going to be in when
Speaker 1: we're done talking. But if you would like to go
Speaker 1: to a National park, you have a story about going
Speaker 1: to a National park? Call in and we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1: Or if you're planning to go, we can talk about
Speaker 1: that too. If you need some help, need a couple
Speaker 1: of hints here of the off the wall hints for
Speaker 1: a trip, call in.
Speaker 3: And you can get specific. There are and I'm going
Speaker 3: to say the word approximately so you won't yell at me.
Speaker 3: Four hundred and twenty three with four hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: three national parks within the United States.
Speaker 1: Well, now I can tell you for sure because I
Speaker 1: think I sent you something but it might not have
Speaker 1: gotten there, but I have. There are now four hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty three.
Speaker 3: Oh so I only miss by ten.
Speaker 1: Only ten. That's not bad, Okay.
Speaker 3: Not bad. And if you want to call in, Dixie
Speaker 3: has been easily two thirds of these parks.
Speaker 1: No, no, only half, only half, only half. They keep
Speaker 1: making new ones and I just can't get to them all. Okay,
Speaker 1: I used to be two thirds, but now now I'm half.
Speaker 3: Well, major parks you've.
Speaker 1: Been to, Yes, I've been to two thirds of the
Speaker 1: major ones.
Speaker 3: And if you want to ask, because you have a
Speaker 3: trip planned, you're going to the Grand Canyon, You're going
Speaker 3: to the Yon Yellowstone, he can give you the heads up.
Speaker 3: Low down on those parks, And what was the first
Speaker 3: national park? Because I know it was Teddy Roosevelt who
Speaker 3: decided this area should be a national park. I so
Speaker 3: decree it.
Speaker 1: Well, you're you're mixing up your information, Okay, the verse.
Speaker 1: The very first national park was Yellowstone in eighteen seventy two,
Speaker 1: Ulysses S. Grant. Okay, okay, So what you're thinking of
Speaker 1: is the first national monument nineteen oh six, nineteen oh six,
Speaker 1: Devil's Tower in Wyoming. Okay, Close Encounters of a Third
Speaker 1: kind from that movie, Yes, yes, and the visitation to
Speaker 1: that park spike for two years after that movie came out.
Speaker 3: And you've been there, oh a couple times, and you've
Speaker 3: been to the tippy top.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, uh, that's that's quite a it's
Speaker 1: not even a hike, it's a climb.
Speaker 3: So no, And they of fudged, they fudged that. They
Speaker 3: made it seem large enough that these giant flying saucers
Speaker 3: there was room for them up top there.
Speaker 1: Well, there's a little bit of room. The sauces were
Speaker 1: were looked to be much bigger than the top, but
Speaker 1: the top is pretty big, Okay.
Speaker 3: And because of that movie, a lot of people went
Speaker 3: to the area just to see what it.
Speaker 1: Was like as well they should. It was the first
Speaker 1: national monument that's different from a National park in terminology,
Speaker 1: by size, and by some other things also. But Teddy
Speaker 1: Roosevelt is the president who decided that the places in
Speaker 1: the United States that didn't quite come up to the
Speaker 1: standards of being a national park, say Mount Rainier and
Speaker 1: Yellowstone and Grand Canyon, they should also be recognized and
Speaker 1: brought into the fold, so to speak.
Speaker 3: Okay, and is Mount McKinley a National park?
Speaker 1: Denali? Denali? Is Mount McKinley in Alaska, College Beak in North.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tas Peak.
Speaker 1: Where Dallas Peak in North America?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: And uh, it was Mount McKinley at the beginning, but
Speaker 1: was Renameddanali a long time ago.
Speaker 3: Because I hear that now President Trump wants to put
Speaker 3: its name back the way it was.
Speaker 1: Sure, naturally.
Speaker 3: Now now I heard the tone in your voice.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me a bit.
Speaker 3: I heard the tone in your voice now. Now, yeah,
Speaker 3: So what national parks do we have around here?
Speaker 1: Well, we have probably we have a good dozen in
Speaker 1: the Boston area. Uh, Sagas Iron Works, Longfellow House in Cambridge,
Speaker 1: John F. Kennedy birthplace in Brooklines, frederickstad in Brookline. We
Speaker 1: have a lot Lowell National Park up in Lowell. We've
Speaker 1: got a lot, all right, and.
Speaker 3: Tease this. I know there are a handful of national
Speaker 3: parks that have revamped themselves to make it more attractive
Speaker 3: for tourists to go there. Tell people, but don't give
Speaker 3: give names. Just tease people of some of those locations
Speaker 3: that we'll discuss more after the break.
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure what you're meaning, but several parks
Speaker 1: in the last ten or fifteen years that I went
Speaker 1: to a long time ago that were called national monuments
Speaker 1: way back when are now officially national parks, which means
Speaker 1: their area has increased and their amount of protection has
Speaker 1: also increased for various reasons.
Speaker 3: Then we'll talk about yeah when you come back. Okay, fine,
Speaker 3: all right, anyone who wants to join our conversation six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 3: ten thirty eight eight, eight, nine to nine, ten thirty.
Speaker 3: That'll get you through tonight's side. Dan is my producer tonight,
Speaker 3: not Dan Ray, but my producer. Dan is here instead
Speaker 3: of Rob Brooks, and he'll treat you quite nicely on
Speaker 3: the phone. Time in temperature ten fifteen nineteen degrees.
Speaker 2: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World Nightside.
Speaker 3: Studios on WBZ News Radio. My name Morgan White Junior.
Speaker 3: I am filling in for Dan for the rest of
Speaker 3: this evening until midnight, and as well, I'll be here
Speaker 3: tomorrow night. I already told you the guests will be
Speaker 3: joined me tomorrow night. Maybe I'll repeat that list a
Speaker 3: little bit later on. And Wednesday is when Dan comes back,
Speaker 3: and believe me, he'll have many talking points. Obviously, this
Speaker 3: is a busy week for conversation and talk shows. I've
Speaker 3: got Dixie with me now, who used to work for
Speaker 3: the National Park Service, and you were telling me the
Speaker 3: difference between a National park and what.
Speaker 1: Well, there are maybe ten or twelve different designations for
Speaker 1: places in the National Park Service that are parks. Of course,
Speaker 1: the Big Ones, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, Yosemite, Grand Canyon, they're
Speaker 1: all National parks period and there is sixty three of those.
Speaker 1: But there are now three hundred and seventy other types
Speaker 1: of parks, National historic sites, national historic parks, national battlefields,
Speaker 1: national lake shore, La la la la, lot goes on and.
Speaker 3: On, totally free.
Speaker 1: We learned that today, Yes, that's right, four point thirty
Speaker 1: three as of today. Uh, so you know where you are.
Speaker 1: There's a different a little different name for it, but
Speaker 1: it's still no matter how small it is. And there's
Speaker 1: the smallest one is one building in in Philadelphia. The
Speaker 1: staty is Koshusco House. And that's like one house. And
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 3: And why why is that of note?
Speaker 1: Because General Krstusco was man it was it was a
Speaker 1: very good ally of ours in the Revolutionary War, provided
Speaker 1: much help for George Washington and he lived He lived
Speaker 1: there for a year or so. Uh. And it is
Speaker 1: the one building, as I said, is a national park.
Speaker 1: But it's just one house. That's the smallest one.
Speaker 3: And if he ever came back to life, he would
Speaker 3: he would have still there.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're saving his bid for him.
Speaker 3: All right, let's take a phone call. So Chris on
Speaker 3: the Cape, Welcome to night Side.
Speaker 4: Hello Chris, Yes hi, I just wanted to since I'm
Speaker 4: from the Cape, I noted a rather glaring omission in
Speaker 4: terms of Cape Cod National National Parks. And let's not
Speaker 4: forget about the Cape Cod National Seashore. Who can't forget
Speaker 4: about the years or sixty four years old and that
Speaker 4: is one of the hugest draws of any national park
Speaker 4: in New England, I would guess. But I'd also like
Speaker 4: you to comment on the famed Supreme Court Justice Wilderness
Speaker 4: Officiando William O. Douglas and what influence he may have
Speaker 4: had on creating new parks. And with that, I'll just
Speaker 4: hang up, But I I couldn't sit by idly and
Speaker 4: allow our Cape Cod National Seashore to be on.
Speaker 1: No, wait a minute, Hold on a second, don't hang up,
Speaker 1: don't hang up. Have you lived on the cape all
Speaker 1: your life?
Speaker 3: Not yet.
Speaker 4: Up until this point, then yes, to this point. And
Speaker 4: my father was actually very instrumental and work very hard
Speaker 4: as a selectman in Provincetown in creating the National Seashore,
Speaker 4: and you with Tip O'Neil and Governors, Sergeant and of
Speaker 4: course jfk and and other dignitaries. But it was a
Speaker 4: very very hard fought battle back in late fifties early
Speaker 4: sixties to overcome the fierce yes concerns of the real
Speaker 4: estate interests.
Speaker 1: So well, I would like I would like you to
Speaker 1: tell the listening audience what might have happened and if
Speaker 1: the Cape Cod National Seashore did not exist.
Speaker 4: Oh, it would be. It would not be what we'd
Speaker 4: have a bunch of Trump towers out there. Let's put
Speaker 4: it that way.
Speaker 3: Because.
Speaker 4: It would be a whole different character in space when
Speaker 4: you answer the rotary, and when you answer the rotary
Speaker 4: in Orleans, virtually everything on the Atlantic side of Route
Speaker 4: six from East Ham to the Provincetown is covered by
Speaker 4: National Seashore restrictions. And thank goodness, I mean the province lands,
Speaker 4: it's majestic, the sand dunes, all the rest. It would
Speaker 4: be nothing. It wouldn't have the attraction that has been
Speaker 4: inspired since and will continue.
Speaker 3: So does that answer answer your question?
Speaker 1: Yes, And he has said my piece without me saying
Speaker 1: a word. As for William O. Douglass. As for William O. Douglass,
Speaker 1: I really don't have any idea of what his contributions were.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say, but I don't. I know a
Speaker 1: lot of other people who contributed to a lot of things,
Speaker 1: but I don't know what he did well.
Speaker 4: He wrote some he used to take his off time
Speaker 4: in going to Yosemity or to the Great Wilderness that
Speaker 4: remained so in large part because of the influence of
Speaker 4: the National Park creations. And I don't know without national parks,
Speaker 4: we'd have a lot of developed space or just ballow space.
Speaker 1: Yes, we would. Are you sure you're not getting him
Speaker 1: mixed up with John Muir?
Speaker 4: No, no, I'm not, okay.
Speaker 3: Who's John?
Speaker 1: John Muir was a relatively large person in the development
Speaker 1: or the undevelopment of western places that eventually turned into
Speaker 1: national parks. He was a very good friend of Stephen Mather,
Speaker 1: who was the first director of the National Park Service
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixteen, and they contrived to save millions of
Speaker 1: acres of land for national parks.
Speaker 3: Was Stephen Mather a direct descendant of Cotton Mather?
Speaker 1: Not directly, No, okay, because I know that name hysterically. Yes, yep.
Speaker 3: Well, Chris, thank you for calling in.
Speaker 4: You're most welcome. Keep up the interesting guests. It was
Speaker 4: very uh and I'll continue to list.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I truly thank you very much. Thank you for calling.
Speaker 3: Right right nice because, as Chris said, I work hard
Speaker 3: on getting the guests on that I that I get.
Speaker 3: For an example, Dixie, I've known for over twenty years,
Speaker 3: and I bring.
Speaker 1: Away a minute that's forty years.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty and next the year I began radio nineteen.
Speaker 3: That's right, all right, Well, I apologize for slighting you
Speaker 3: twenty years. But for an example, tonight I had Jacob
Speaker 3: wycoff Arm from Tandula from eight to nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was good. I'm a weather person too, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I know a lot of people are. We
Speaker 3: just had a weather event within the past twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: No kidding. I woke up to that this morning at
Speaker 1: the shovel two hours.
Speaker 3: Ah Well, having Jacob on was well timed, and having
Speaker 3: you on on the day that America gets a new
Speaker 3: president is again well timed because you have a number
Speaker 3: of things planned to talk about presidents whose interaction with
Speaker 3: America gave us national parks and plus not minus plus
Speaker 3: things about national parks.
Speaker 1: Well, the other coincidence tonight's Martin Luther King Day, of course, yes,
Speaker 1: and the National Park Service runs his home in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: And wasn't it free today of all entry fees and whatnot?
Speaker 3: Because I'm sure it was Martin Luther King Day?
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, yeah.
Speaker 3: So back to my original point. Every show I do,
Speaker 3: whether it's The Morgan Show of filling in for Dan Rey,
Speaker 3: I put a lot into acquiring guests that have something
Speaker 3: to offer to the listening audience out there.
Speaker 1: You know, one of these days, one of these days,
Speaker 1: you're going to have to have Donna Helper, Andrew Fielding
Speaker 1: and Me being a three person panel on your show.
Speaker 3: But there wouldn't be enough microphones to spread around to
Speaker 3: all three an hour or so. What I once had
Speaker 3: the honor of doing one hour or two hours of
Speaker 3: radio with these individuals Lavelle Diet, Larry Glick by phone,
Speaker 3: because we're talking about subjects related to Larry ken Meyer.
Speaker 3: Who else? Jordan Rich And I'm trying to think there
Speaker 3: was another name in there, And believe me, I was
Speaker 3: a busy ringmaster that way.
Speaker 1: That's a hell of a lineup.
Speaker 3: It was a heck of a lineup, for sure, But
Speaker 3: I did it. That's why they pay me the big WBZ.
Speaker 1: Bucks, huge Denaro.
Speaker 3: Way.
Speaker 1: By the way, if one of your guests tomorrow doesn't
Speaker 1: hook on, I'm available because tomorrow is the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame induction announcement.
Speaker 3: All right, then I'll keep that in mind. And I've
Speaker 3: got to wave goodbye to you. You're on hold. I'm
Speaker 3: not going anywhere, but I've got to move for ABC
Speaker 3: and ABC is literally ten seconds away time and temperature
Speaker 3: here ten thirty and nineteen degrees.
Speaker 2: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
Speaker 2: news radio.
Speaker 3: Dan, We'll be back on Wednesday, eight sharp, I promise you.
Speaker 3: I'm Morgan White Junior filling in. I'm here for the
Speaker 3: rest of this evening and tomorrow's show Tuesday from eight
Speaker 3: until midnight. Right now, Dixie's here. Former park ranger Richard Durando,
Speaker 3: And you've told the story about how you became a ranger,
Speaker 3: but I want to take you back further. What was it, Dixie?
Speaker 3: Because every time I have you on, you speak so
Speaker 3: passionately about the park services and what they offer and
Speaker 3: what anyone who travels for a vacation to a park
Speaker 3: should expect. And your passion is sincere. I know you,
Speaker 3: So tell me what first made this so important to
Speaker 3: you as a person.
Speaker 1: Well, the first time I was thinking about this this
Speaker 1: afternoon for no particular reason, and of course knowing that
Speaker 1: I was going to be on tonight, and I was
Speaker 1: thinking about the very first two parks that I ever
Speaker 1: went to, and why two of them, and two of
Speaker 1: them and they have no relationship to one another. The
Speaker 1: first park I think I'm pretty sure about This first
Speaker 1: National park that I ever went to was the Ulysses S.
Speaker 1: Grant Memorial in New York on Riverside Drive. It was
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy two, three four, something like that, maybe two.
Speaker 1: A friend of a friend of mine from college lived there,
Speaker 1: probably about eight blocks away, and a couple of friends,
Speaker 1: and we went down to visit him, and the monument
Speaker 1: was right there. At that time, the monument was closed
Speaker 1: and was in terrible condition, graffiti all over it, broken boards, everything,
Speaker 1: because it was nineteen seventy two or three, and no
Speaker 1: one really cared, and so that was so of course
Speaker 1: it's one of the smallest parks there is. The second
Speaker 1: park I ever went to was in nineteen seventy three
Speaker 1: when I accompanied my next door neighbor from childhood and
Speaker 1: his wife out to Arizona and we went to Grand Canyon.
Speaker 1: So I went from the smallest to one of the
Speaker 1: biggest and grandest in the course of a year, and
Speaker 1: that really set me off. I've always been a geography fan,
Speaker 1: always been fascinated by it, and by the time I
Speaker 1: was out of college and able to do some traveling.
Speaker 1: Of course, didn't have a lot of money, but we
Speaker 1: just started to go to parks in nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 1: It was an explosion because I went on an eight
Speaker 1: week trip by car with three other people, a friend
Speaker 1: of mine and his wife and Maryland. I think our
Speaker 1: first our first date, was an eight week trip and
Speaker 1: we crossed we crossed Canada on the Queen's Highway and
Speaker 1: then came down the West coast. And one of the
Speaker 1: things that happened was Nixon resigned when we were at Disneyland, Okay,
Speaker 1: And we went to Yosemite and Mount Rainier and Grand
Speaker 1: Canyon and all over the place. But that was that
Speaker 1: was in a crash course in national parks for certain
Speaker 1: eight weeks on the road, National park after National Park
Speaker 1: after National Park.
Speaker 3: Well, I bet you didn't see any graffiti on the
Speaker 3: walls of the Grand Canyon.
Speaker 1: Well, I wasn't in a position for that.
Speaker 3: No, Okay, well you met that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there is some somewhere, but I didn't see
Speaker 1: any of them, or the other times I've been back.
Speaker 3: I would think it would be very difficult to go
Speaker 3: up on the face of one of those walls and
Speaker 3: write Kilroy was here.
Speaker 1: Well, you can never You can't depend on people to
Speaker 1: be intelligent. That's why people fall off the Grand Canyon
Speaker 1: sides because they get too close for a picture.
Speaker 3: Well that's different.
Speaker 1: Oh is that different?
Speaker 3: Uh, you're trying to get a picture in the and
Speaker 3: the person snapping the shots, Oh, take a couple of
Speaker 3: steps back.
Speaker 1: No, No, sometimes they're taking a selfie.
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll find I'm not going to speak to them,
Speaker 3: but to deface a national treasure like the Grand Canyon,
Speaker 3: if you fall, you deserve it.
Speaker 1: Well people, Yeah, well people do it every day in
Speaker 1: different places. But they do it every day, and they're
Speaker 1: going to do it a lot more because the National
Speaker 1: Parks are not going to get a lot of money
Speaker 1: in the next four years, and so there are going
Speaker 1: to be fewer park rangers. They're going to be fewer
Speaker 1: people there to handle the crowds, and the National Parks
Speaker 1: will continue to go downhill. There are already twenty five
Speaker 1: twenty five billion dollars in reverse for repairs and rehab
Speaker 1: work and new things to be built, and it's just
Speaker 1: going to get bigger.
Speaker 3: I'll guarantee that you don't think President Trump is going
Speaker 3: to address that with all his make America Great Again
Speaker 3: speech that we heard today.
Speaker 1: The America it's not the America, He's going to make
Speaker 1: great again. There are at least seven National Park little
Speaker 1: units historical sites, mostly in New York City. I will
Speaker 1: guarantee you he's never walked into one.
Speaker 3: You're probably right, although we can't be sure.
Speaker 1: No, I'm sure because none of them, none of them
Speaker 1: had his name on it, so he wouldn't walk into it.
Speaker 3: I was about to say, if this publicity involved, he's
Speaker 3: been there with cameras.
Speaker 1: So the backlog of work is going to get higher,
Speaker 1: and that's not good for anyone. Just remember, everybody out
Speaker 1: there in listening land, the National Park Service is the
Speaker 1: most loved government agency there is. At least probably ninety
Speaker 1: percent of the people in the United States love their
Speaker 1: national parks and that is why having them go into
Speaker 1: ruin is not a good idea.
Speaker 3: What can people listening do? Give me three steps that
Speaker 3: anybody listening right now who cares about the national parks
Speaker 3: a park parks plural, tell me three things they can.
Speaker 1: Do well if you if you live near a well
Speaker 1: even a state park, I'll just talk about national parks.
Speaker 1: If you live near one, then go and ask them
Speaker 1: if they need any help, if you can donate money,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's always good. There is a National Park Foundation,
Speaker 1: a National Park and Conservation Association. There are two or
Speaker 1: three major national agencies organizations that help national parks. Find
Speaker 1: out what they are online and join up there. I
Speaker 1: don't think there's a feed of There isn't a feed
Speaker 1: to joint because I belong to all of them. But
Speaker 1: if you have the money to donate, even if it's
Speaker 1: two dollars, but your name will be listed on and
Speaker 1: you'll be a member of the populace that wants national
Speaker 1: parks to be preserved and saved and helped out at
Speaker 1: any time.
Speaker 3: So volunteerism one, yes, the donation two and what's the third?
Speaker 1: Uh, just talk visit them because visitation always looks good.
Speaker 1: Go to them and bring people with you. These I
Speaker 1: think the last couple of years have set records three
Speaker 1: hundred million people to go to national parks over over
Speaker 1: the course of a year after the pandemic was over.
Speaker 3: That's a statement.
Speaker 1: It's not like no one goes. Too many people go actually,
Speaker 1: but you know that's the way it is when you
Speaker 1: when you have a great thing, people come to.
Speaker 3: It all right. Because of today being inauguration day, other
Speaker 3: than Teddy Roosevelt, give me some other assists good publicity
Speaker 3: by the man living at sixteen after Pennsylvania Avenue. Give
Speaker 3: me two or three examples of that.
Speaker 1: Okay, I cheated. I figured this question might come up
Speaker 1: today considering everything that's going on. So I looked up
Speaker 1: all of the national parks that have something to do
Speaker 1: with a president, and there are at least a dozen
Speaker 1: at least a dozen birthplaces, places where they lived. Stuff
Speaker 1: like that. I didn't even count connected national parks, like
Speaker 1: the call the Teddy Roosevelt National Park out in North
Speaker 1: Dakota is connected with his name. He did go out
Speaker 1: there once, but it's not really it's not really his,
Speaker 1: like his home in Sagamore Hill, New York.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: But there's a Franklin Delano Roosevelt House in Hyde Park,
Speaker 1: New York, Martin van Buren House in along the Hudson
Speaker 1: River in New York. I'm blanking out in the name
Speaker 1: right now. But you know, there's Abraham Lincoln has I
Speaker 1: think three places in the National Park Service, so Herbert
Speaker 1: Hoover National Historic Site.
Speaker 3: Back up to Lincoln. Are these places in Illinois or
Speaker 3: Kentucky because he was born in Kentucky, but most of
Speaker 3: his fame came to activity in Illinois.
Speaker 1: Yes, the birthplace in Kentucky is there. I have not
Speaker 1: been to that, but two years ago I was at
Speaker 1: the Lincoln Homestead in Springfield, Illinois, which is really interesting
Speaker 1: to be at. It's a whole neighborhood that the Park
Speaker 1: Service has managed to help survive. And it's like a
Speaker 1: not a recreation because all the buildings there are real.
Speaker 1: But Lincoln's house is there and you can tour it.
Speaker 3: Okay. And who were you saying when I interrupted to
Speaker 3: you about Lincoln.
Speaker 1: Herbert Hoover National Historics. That's another one off the wall.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter, Jimmy Carter's House of the National Historic Site.
Speaker 3: And we all heard about Jimmy Carter a lot because
Speaker 3: of his passing a couple of weeks ago, age one hundred.
Speaker 3: He lived to be one hundred.
Speaker 1: Yes he did.
Speaker 3: Yes, And.
Speaker 1: Just for just for the sake of mentioning it, President
Speaker 1: Biden wrote wrote into existence the Francis Perkins National Monument
Speaker 1: in Maine in December. That was last month, one of
Speaker 1: the last things he did. That's one of the one
Speaker 1: of the new that's certainly the newest of the four
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty three parts.
Speaker 3: Wasn't she like the one descending vote to go to
Speaker 3: war for World War two?
Speaker 1: Francis Persa, I don't know about that, but I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Well, that's okay, Okay. Then she was the
Speaker 1: first woman in the cabinet of anybody of any president,
Speaker 1: Thanklin Delano Roosevelt's cabinet. She was a Secretary of Labor
Speaker 1: and made sure that social Security got funded and went
Speaker 1: through and that other social justice items made it through Congress.
Speaker 1: So they finally, after all these years, finally decided they
Speaker 1: would give her a national monument her house in Newcastle, Maine.
Speaker 1: So if you're driving up Route one from here to
Speaker 1: say a Katie A National Park, you can stop right
Speaker 1: in because it's right along the way.
Speaker 3: So I thank her for the fact that I get
Speaker 3: a Social Security check once a month.
Speaker 1: You and me both because where old is dirt, Yes
Speaker 1: we are.
Speaker 3: If you had us together, it's like counting the rings
Speaker 3: of a tree in California, Redwood Tritory. Yes, well, I've
Speaker 3: got a call, but I'm not going to take it
Speaker 3: because I'm too close to another ABC update. Okay, I've
Speaker 3: got about ninety seconds not to kill, but ninety seconds
Speaker 3: before that update comes into everybody's radio and Florence and Groveland.
Speaker 3: After that break, you'll get a chance to speak with Dixie,
Speaker 3: So she's on hold. Anybody else who wants to join
Speaker 3: this conversation about national parks. Dixie and I are going
Speaker 3: to keep this conversation going till midnight six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 3: ten thirty eight, eight, eight, nine to nine, ten thirty.
Speaker 3: And I'm Morgan and I'm gonna mention again my guest tomorrow,
Speaker 3: doctor David Nathan, about diabetes. Beer gave about beerb Cooper,
Speaker 3: a well known voice actress, and Dennis Becker. So that's
Speaker 3: what I've got planned for tomorrow, filling in for Dan Ray.
Speaker 3: And I'm just going to tell you something you all
Speaker 3: should know. The time and the temperature. It's ten forty
Speaker 3: nine in nineteen degrees his ABC News.
Speaker 2: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 2: Nice Sight Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3: Let's go to Groveland, Massachusetts and speak with Florence Florence.
Speaker 3: Good evening. Thank you for taking the time to call gree.
Speaker 5: Ning Morgan Grey, Good Evening. Dixie. Would Monte Killo be
Speaker 5: considered a national pot?
Speaker 1: A lot of people do that. But it is not
Speaker 1: it is it is not. It's it's owned and operated
Speaker 1: privately by something to do with Jefferson and everything else,
Speaker 1: So it is not it is run like a national park.
Speaker 1: It certainly has all the aspects of being a national park,
Speaker 1: but it is in fact not a national park.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I was there years ago. I'm just wondering,
Speaker 5: you know, it wasn't sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, A lot of places like that have have private
Speaker 1: historical groups that are very protective of their turf and
Speaker 1: they want to keep it as they want to keep it,
Speaker 1: and therefore they don't point it out to the federal
Speaker 1: government to protect. They don't need they don't need the money.
Speaker 1: They have their they have their own sources of funds.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because it's sitting on a pretty good choice piece
Speaker 5: of land. Oh, yes, absolutely, Yeah, yeah, as I remember,
Speaker 5: But I was just curious about that. I have visited Arcadia.
Speaker 1: Park. I think that was something name, yeah, said bar Harbor.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I'm mostly a museum person. I love museums, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm fascinated with those.
Speaker 1: But I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure that Arcadia has
Speaker 1: a small museum about the park itself.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I went to a small museum many years
Speaker 5: ago and it's gone now. Was the Mollis Museum up
Speaker 5: in worn in New Hampshire, and I heard that it
Speaker 5: was gone. There was the fire, I believe.
Speaker 3: Florence Morse as in Samuel Morse.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yeah. And they had behind the MEU team
Speaker 5: they had this pretty good sized trout pond where the
Speaker 5: visitors could go out there and they could throw peanuts
Speaker 5: to the water into the water. The trout would jump
Speaker 5: up with them.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: It's kind of fascinating, you know.
Speaker 3: All right, And Florence, I hate to do it to you,
Speaker 3: but I've got a news hit coming, so I have
Speaker 3: to wave good night.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I just wanted to check on Monticell. But
Speaker 5: thank you very much, thank you for your call.
Speaker 3: Florence.
Speaker 1: Good night, good night.
Speaker 3: We've got another hour you and I. So I'm about
Speaker 3: to sew it back today in time and temperature ten
Speaker 3: fifty eight nineteen degrees