Speaker 1: And now Audio Theater Central. Hello, Welcome to Audio Theater Central.
This is the show that explores family friendly audio drama
through news, reviews and interviews. I'm your host, JD. Sutter,
and this is episode to zero nine. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome
to the show. I've got a fantastic interview coming up
with Tory Martin, the creator of Wotton Bassett on Adventures
and Odyssey. I've got some audio drama updates coming in
just a moment. Now, I know that I said last
time I was going to address all of your feedback
in this episode. I am so sorry. I'm going to
have to move that to next episode again. There is
a lot happening and life just got in the way
of the show prep this month. I'll tell you one
of the reasons for that here in the next segment.
So let's get to the audio drama updates.
Speaker 2: We interrupt this program to bring you a special report
and in other news tonight.
Speaker 3: A brief look at the headlines now and.
Speaker 2: What exciting fast piece news that's relevant and entertaining like this.
Speaker 1: Well, before we jump into the updates, just a quick reminder,
as always, you can send your updates about a show
that you are involved in or you know about. You
can go to PFM dot link, slash atc news or
click the button on our website to let us know
all of the juicy details so we can share it
with this community. Well, the first item is I was
asked to write a guest editorial for the Aio Update
website and it was just recently published, and it's called
the Taming of the Tech The Value of Audio Drama
in a visual World. And I just decided to focus
a little bit on unplugging in our tech focused world
and how audio drama fits into the picture and fits
into our fast paced, screen centric lives these days, and
why it's such a great story medium. And so the
idea for this article came many years ago in fact,
and David Hilder, who runs the Aio Update website, reached
out and asked me if I was willing to write
an article, and I said yes. He threw out a
few topic suggestions and one of them was similar to
this in a similar vein, And so I took this
idea that I had several years ago and sort of
merged it with the focus of the Aio Update website,
which is of course on adventures in Odyssey, and so
I worked in some references there. But interesting note, I
started this article, wrote just a couple of hundred words
maybe actually it may have only been a paragraph or so,
and then I had some bullet points. And it's been
sitting in my notes app for years because somebody else
approached me about writing an article along these lines several
years ago for a different publication, and then that deal
fell through, and so this article idea and the first
few sentences of it has been sitting in my notes
for all this time. And I always thought, I'm going
to get back to that and either write it as
an article for ATC and post it on our blog,
or I'm going to do it as a monologue segment
here on the show. Once I started that segment, and
I just hadn't done it yet. So it worked out,
and so it is now out, And if you don't
want to read several hundred or a few thousand words
from me, you can listen to me read it to
you with the embedded audio player on the Aio Update website.
So link is in the show notes if you want
to check that article out and let me know what
you think by commenting on the AIO update website. There
next up something to be on the lookout for. And
this is one of the reasons why I've been so
busy lately and just did not get enough show prep
done as I would have liked to for this episode.
And you know, it's not an entirely negative thing, because
it's a fun project, and that is the Audio Drama
Alliances production of The Hardy Boys and The Tower Treasure.
So excited to be working on this project. It's been
in the works for a very, very long time. You've
probably heard me allude to it on this show in
recent episodes since we made the initial announcement last fall
or late summer. But we recently shared the cast for
the Hardy family and so we've got some great actors.
There more to come, but Frank and Joe Hardy, the
main characters, are going to be played by Dominic Trice
and John Tuttle II, and Fenton Hardy and Laura Hardy,
the parents of the Hardy Boys, in case you're unfamiliar
with that series, we'll be played by Peter Fasari and
Alisha Hanson. So it's so exciting to be moving on
this project. Like I said, a moment ago. More info
to come, and we'll be making the rest of the
cast announcements very soon. So there is a link in
the show notes if you want to find out more
about the project, see the timeline, see some information about
these actors that I just mentioned here. All of that
is linked in the show notes. But that project is
moving along, so hopefully we'll be moving into production here
very soon. All right, a couple of new releases. Kaboom
Season four just premiered with the first episode called The
Meaugic Lamp, and that dropped on January thirty. First, it's
a twenty four minute episode about an antique shop owning
family that discovers a magic lamp, but mayhem ensues when
the genie will only obey the one who rubbed the lamp.
There head cat. So that is just the first episode
of season four. And here is the trailer for season
four of Kaboom.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you guys a secret? Yes, tell me
every gory detail.
Speaker 4: The Kaboom Podcast is back with a whole new season
of audio adventures for the whole family cool. In each episode,
you'll need a whole new cast of characters.
Speaker 2: To try it.
Speaker 4: Video game character.
Speaker 2: Make Incredible discoveries.
Speaker 3: It's a phoenix.
Speaker 1: You can talk to.
Speaker 4: Cats and head out on epic adventures. We're surrounded by
deadly lasers and walls of ice.
Speaker 2: Because you're supposed to burst into flames like that.
Speaker 4: Our season premiere stars members of the sketch comedy shows
Studio CE.
Speaker 2: Nobody does it better than one.
Speaker 4: So many adventures your mind will go kaboom.
Speaker 2: Dude, that's so cheesy.
Speaker 4: Kaboom Season four premiere's January thirty first subscribe now on
Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2: No be gone, okay, rude.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Sounds like a lot of fun in
store for this episode. And as you heard in that trailer,
this first episode is a collab with the sketch comedy
group Studio C that is in this first episode. I
don't know if there will be more throughout the season,
but definitely in this first one, and more is to come.
You can find Kaboom on Dramafi and any podcast app
so links in the show notes for that. Next up range,
Drifters Episode three is out now and this is from
First Ax Productions. If you are unfamiliar with it, it
is about four unlikely animal friends who meet on Upton Heights,
where adventure might be found resting around the pond or
exploring the beautiful mountains around them. Humor is a common thread,
and guests show up and keep these guardians of Upton
Heights entertained, Bring the family, and enjoy Each episode also
features a short visit with retired detective Frank Sawyer and
his young sidekick Obi as they work to make Predicament
Falls a better place. And this is just a fun,
fun show, or a really fun premise with some colorful
and very entertaining characters. And this is episode three, which
just dropped, and Glenn Haskell, the creative force behind this, said,
it's been a very fun sandbox to play in. I
believe there are thirteen episodes written, a total of six
this year and hopefully a similar amount next year. It
has been a delight to revisit concepts and ideas and
fashion new things from existing ideas. So I've been really
enjoying these episodes. And he also let us know that
Jonathan Cook is going to be joining the show as
Buster's older brother Chester from his Chester and Ralphie show,
And so that is a really cool I love that
idea of bringing these shows a little bit of a crossover.
We've seen that before with Nick Guy and other shows
like that. But yeah, this is a really really fun
thing and it totally makes sense to have those characters
interact in some way, so that will be lots of fun.
Range Drifters is an exclusive show to Drama Fi, so
link is in the show notes to check that one out.
And lastly is a promo for a new show that
just launched and we're going to be talking a lot
about this with our guest in just a few minutes.
Tory Martin, writer and actor, has just launched a new
podcast called of Moose and Men Lost and Found in Alaska,
and it is a captivating podcast adaptation of the book
written by Tory Martin and Doug Peterson. You'll enjoy a
collection of humorous and heartwarming stories that chronicle Tory Martin's
adventure filled transformation from a struggling actor in Los Angeles
to a man who finds spiritual fulfillment and personal growth
in the rugged, untamed landscape of Alaska. Throughout the podcast,
Toy shares his encounters with various Alaskan wildlife, including bears, moose,
and reindeer, often finding himself in comedic and precarious situations.
These experiences are not only entertaining, but also serve as
metaphors for the lessons he learns about faith, humility, and
God's presence in everyday life. Take a listen to this
trailers more.
Speaker 2: Alaska the last frontier. It was for me anyway.
Speaker 5: I had always been a social misfit and never really
fit in anywhere else, So I moved to the land
of the midnight Sun, where I planned to live.
Speaker 2: The life of a hideaway hermit.
Speaker 5: My first job was as a cab host for Alaska
State Parks.
Speaker 3: I supplemented my income with a side business called the
Accident Clothing Company, where I made burbekinis out of roadkill
and jewelry out of moose droppings. And believe it or not,
I wasn't the only eccentric entrepreneur here. In fact, it
seemed like everyone who lived on a very fringe to
society in the lower forty eight had all moved to Alaska.
So was filled with nothing but hippies, freaks, and weirdos.
And from the moment I arrived, I was like my people,
I'm home. Not only did I find my home here.
Speaker 5: But I also found a God who is bigger than me,
bigger than my past, and bigger than my problems. But
I found him in a very small place, a tiny, remote,
isolated cabin in the middle of Bear Valley, Alaska. To
be honest, I struggle with my faith at first, because
while I knew that God loved me, I just wasn't
sure that he liked me.
Speaker 6: Of Moose and Men is the adventure field story of
how I survived a blizzard of bizarre blunderings and bumbled
my way to God. For more chapters of this wild adventure,
we call of Moose and Men. Subscribe now on Access
More or wherever you listen to podcasts. You can also
visit Torymartin dot com for more info.
Speaker 1: And of course, that show is linked up in the
show notes, and we're going to talk with Tory here
in just a moment, all about that show and a
little bit more.
Speaker 2: Just say your name and the role you're playing in
this production.
Speaker 1: Please excuse me, excuse me, the local news station would
like to talk to you.
Speaker 2: Oh, here's a couple of me play right. I'm here
to ask you a couple of questions.
Speaker 1: Well, I got to sit down and chat with Tory
a few days ago, and I'm going to roll that
interview here in just a moment, just a little bit
of a heads up. We were interrupted a few times
by his dogs, and we tried our best to minimize
those sounds in the background as much as possible in
this audio, but occasionally you're going to hear that, and
I hope it isn't too distracting from the conversation because
I loved hearing what Tory had to say about his process,
his journey, talking about what inspires him as a writer,
and all of this great information that I thought was
so well worth the conversation and sharing with you. So again,
I hope those little interruptions don't detract from the content
here too much, and I hope you still enjoyed this conversation.
So let's talk to Tory. Well. I am thrilled to
have a guest on Audio Theater Central today who is
an actor, a writer, and a fellow Redhead, Tory Martin.
Thank you so much for coming on the show. It
is a pleasure.
Speaker 2: Well JD. It is a pleasure to be here. Thank
you so much for the opportunity, and I'm looking forward
to whatever. You know, I have chronic ADHD, so I
never know what I'm going to say next to Trustee JD.
I'm just as excited right now as you are.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, we ran into each other at the
one Grand Party and I was so thrilled that I
got to meet you and we only had a couple
of minutes when you mentioned briefly you had a pride
in the works, and so I've been excited to finally
get to share it with the listeners. And it's here now,
So we want to talk about that. It's a brand
new show called of Moose and min We're going to
talk about that in a moment, but if you don't
mind before we do that, our community here knows you
from your work primarily on Adventures and Odyssey over the years,
and so I want to know, can we talk a
little bit about that before we talk about the new show.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I could talk about forget the new show. I
could talk about Adventures in honesty till I'm blue in
the face. And by the way, listeners, I'm no longer
a red hat. It has within the last five years,
it's turned totally white. I blame it all on bite.
Speaker 1: Well, you're still You're still a redhead to me, because
I mean, we're few and far between these days, so
we got to stick together.
Speaker 2: Yes, I've got the freckles, though you don't have freckles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all over the arms, but not the face.
Speaker 2: How'd you dodge that bullet? I mean that machine gun?
Because yes, talk about adventure snongs.
Speaker 1: So you know, I assume that you you never imagine
how beloved the character of Wutin Bassett would become it.
You know, you were the one who helped create this
wonderful addition to this show that so many of us love.
As a creator, we dream of having our work just
resonate with an audience. How does it make you feel
to know how much AIO fans love the character of Wutin.
I've I've talked to so many of them who say
he's their favorite character.
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. It blows my mind.
I Mean, when I was at one grand party at
that celebration, just see all the fans of Wutin and
all the T shirts and all of it, it just
blew my mind. I was stunned because I just had
no idea I created Wutin when I was living in
my In fact, I talked about it in misson Men
and that what we're going to talk about next. I
shared the story of how I create invessad and was
living in a remote cabin in Bear Valley, Alaska with
the two hundred yard trail. I had the hike just
to reach the cabin, and that's where my whole association
with Adventures NAZI And it has been such a journey. No,
I never thought when I was living in that remote
cabin as a hermit, I never thought that I would
be a writer. I never thought that I would do
any of the things that I'm doing now. Ever, so
it has been quite a journey that if they tune
into them. We said, what we're gonna talk about later,
you're going to hear that whole story and it's great, great,
excellent excellence. Yes, but I can answer any questions you
want about that.
Speaker 1: Well, well, let's actually talk about the name here for
a moment, because I had heard that the name Wooten
Bassett was Paul McCusker's idea because of a town in
the UK. But you created the character. So how did
that collaboration work? Did you develop it and just hadn't
come up with a name yet and he suggested that
or what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, okay, so I was doing. I was at
Christian Artist Seminar in the Rockies. My church had taken
a collection to send me there to compete because I
was acting fresh in Los Angeles, and I left there
to move to Alaska to get away from some things
that I needed to get away from. And that's where
I accepted the Lord. My best friend Rob led me
to the Lord in Alaska and I quit acting altogether.
I gave up everything. I grew my hair long so
it wouldn't look like my eight x ten and so
my agents couldn't send me out to audition anywhere. And
it took two years just to study presept Bible ministries.
You're studying in depth, freaking studies like through Kay Arthur.
And then after that my church, I would write sketches
who performed them at the church. And my church secretary said,
you know, we think God wants you to go back
into acting. And there's this competition called Seminar in the
Rockies that we want to take an operating and send
you to compete. You have to write your own material stuff,
but that's for like Amy Grant Oh my goodness, Keith Green.
All those people got their start there by winning this competition.
They had an acting category in a writing category two.
So I went there to compete, and I called the
Cusker from Adventure so Odyssey was one of my judges.
And the first year, I mean, I went there and
I won a grand prize in the acting category, which
I couldn't believe it. It was a monologue I wrote
about Papa Cheese's toy shop, and I was a Harry
the hitpy for the Holy one dollar and I was
jealous of the stand the suit for the Savior. Dolly
is way more popular than me, and didn't did get
anything of it. And after winning the grand price that
usually launches most people's career, but for me, I thought
it was an accident, you know, because I told you
I was living in Los Angeles and I was living
a very questionable lifestyle. I knew that God loved me
now that I had accepted Jesus and asked him to
be the lord of my life, but I didn't think
he could use me because of my past. You know,
I saved it. I was fine, that's one thing, But
I think he could use me, and I've always had
struggle with chronic eighty HT and hyperactivity. And I'm just
not smart like other people, and I'm not socially, I'm
just I'm a hot I'm bizarre, I'm a hot mess,
I'm an eccentric. You know, what can I say? I
think differently, And so I didn't do anything with that.
I went back to the cabin, thought, oh, that was
just talent. Talent is nothing. This is what I want
to do is I'm want to be used by the Lord.
So winning the competition meant nothing. But Paul McCusker and
Martha Bolton asked that they could keep in touch with me,
so I would write letters. I didn't have even an address.
I would have to go down to the post office
anchorage once a week to get the mail. And my
PO box was two three three zero sixty six. Only
in Alaska to post off office boxes go that high
of a number because nobody has an address. And there
would be a letter from Paul and Martha, and I
would tell them about the latest experience, about the radio
Bundy into the cabin, or about the ver Spray story
and just crazy life be and me, and they thought
they were really funny. And wife said, you know, we
think you might be a writer. I'm like, no, I
graduated high school with a D average. I barely graduated
high school. Do you know. I had to take one
night class at Olympic College with my mother just to graduate,
because she was afraid I wouldn't go there, and it
was a psychology credit. I had to make up. And
trust me, the one thing you do not want to
do is take a psychology class with your mother. I
get turning into it. I go, you everything about me,
this is all your thought. So I barely graduated and
I don't even now. I don't do grammar. I don't
do English stuff. I can tell you the difference between
an adverb and a fraction or whatever. I don't know
and I don't care. But I have a really active imagination.
So they said I could tell stories that you can
have somebody to help me with the grammar. So then
based on those letters, they said, you know, because you
went the acting competition last year, you get a free
trip back to Christian Artists to get this year, but
you can't enter the acting category. But there is also
a sketch writing category, a writing category where people come
from all over to compete and everybody's allowed three comedy
sketches to enter each the judges take the names off,
so the other judges they don't know which three sketches
belong to which people, and then they change the thoughts
so they're not even recognizable that you know, what goes together.
And they said, we think you should come down and write,
maybe entering the sketchwriting time. I was like, I don't
know what that is. So Martha said, well, you know,
I write comede sketches. It's like this, just put them
in the right format. And I did. So I wrote
three comedy sketches, sent them in and I had the
free trip. I wasn't going to go back, and I'm
the type of person I didn't make a lot of friends.
But now these people at Christian Arts, Paul maccusker and
Martha Bolton, they liked me, they were writing to me,
they became friends. So I was more excited about having
friends again going back to see them. And my prayer was,
I'll just have to tell you this because it's crazy.
My prayer was, Father God, if last year wasn't an accident,
and you really do want to use me in spite
of my past I've got to make sure it's you,
because I don't want to be a temple on the
face of God. I don't want to be that thing
that embarrasses you in your name, you know, So if
you really want to use me, you're going to have
to let me win third place. And that's I'll know
that you want to use me. Jesus Navy Man, I
paid that. I thought third place was such because these
are professional writers looking to get published and discovery. I'm
not that third place seemed the higher than I could
possibly even imagine that I wanted to make it. I
wanted to know that it was the Lord, that he
really wanted to use me. I had to know that.
I didn't want to make any mistakes. And at the
end of the week, you're taking all these writing classes
with all these statements writers like call the customers teaching
classes and tester and who's toe at Cliff George, who
played Corey Chimberman the movie The Hiding Place, doesn't may
much judges Danny and Saddie Brownley, who write a lot
of comedy sketches. At the end of the week they
do the awards, and I sat back in a back
row all the way at the top by myself because
I'm a big guy. You know. Everyone else they're all
like wanted to be singers. They're all pretty people. They're
all I call them the skinnys, you know, they're with
their blazers and they're there Sam the Savior, and then
there's me, my car heart overall lock here like I'm
here for the Christian thing. And I sat all the
way back because I feel self conscious sitting next to people,
even in a movie theater, because I feel like I
take up more than my fair share of arms space.
And I didn't think there was a chance that I
was going to win anything anyway. So I went all
the way up the stairs, all the way up this
huge amount of stairs and sat at the very top.
I didn't think I would have to climb these stairs again.
And they opened the envelook when it came to the
comedy sketchwriting and this is the same you. You're Matthew
West won for the singing category. And now, whenever Matthew
West did I see each other? Do you remember that?
I was like, yes, I was crazy because you were
involved like nothing. And they opened up third place and
they called my name. I couldn't believe it, and it
was such an important thing to me. And I'm crying
going down the stairs, but everybody else is like, wow, fact,
Guy's really happy about third place. And I got the
award and I'm wearing my car. I didn't dress up
or anything. I was wearing my cars because I didn't
think anything. I just didn't. I've never really liked myself.
I really believed in myself, so I didn't think any anyways.
To start going back up the steers. I get half
way up. Those are a lot of steers and he
opened the winner for second place, and he called my
name again. Oh. I had not prayed that I would
win second place. And I'm standing there and I had
to turn around and walk that down. Now I'm standing,
I'm like, this is crazy, and I got I got
the trophy for a second and they took the pictures
and then he said, you might as well stay here.
I won first place too, for those three sketches. I
went first, second, third, and the grand prize. I could
not believe it. And there was Guy Ei there said
do you have any more of these sketches, because we'd
like to put them together and publish him as a book,
and I remember saying a book is when you put
them all together, right, and he goes, uh huh. So
next thing you know, I'm a writer. And then Paul
was like, well, this is what happened. My grandmother passed
away and read about that in the book too. And
I was now living in this remote cabinet in Alaska,
and I couldn't afford to fly back and go to
her funeral. But Martha Bolton was my friend now she
was Help's head writer, and she knew I was going
to be mourning my grandmother, especially the week thought I
wasn't going to be able to go to the funeral,
and she said, Tory, she called me in my remote
cabinet and said, I just got something on my mind.
I was given the opportunity to write for Adventures, and
obviously they're looking for some new writers, and there's a
lot of professional writers who are sending it in scripts,
and then they're going to be picking singing writers out
of the scripts. I'm too busy right now. This has
been going on for a year, but I want to
call and ask him if I can extend my invitation
to you, so this week you'll try writing an episode
of Adventures. I was like, okay, but what is it?
What is Adventurous and Odyssey? She's like, it's a radio
drama and I was like okay. So she contacted them.
They said sure, I could go ahead, and I'm sure
she sold them at the top story. Oh this poor
eccenter Gippy his good but he's mourning capt by himself,
he has nothing to do. Could I please let him?
Just for grins? Will you let him do it? Because
I'm really worried about you. And then I went down
to the last Frontier Christian bookstore to see what Adventures
Sunodyssey was because they were on cassette tapes, and I
listened to a couple and then I wrote an episode
of adventuresn Seed in two days, and I created a
character based in my grabb and I said it in
and waited and waited and waited and waited and waited
and waited and waited, and I didn't hear anything. I
was so depressed. Oh it was terrible, I was, that's
been horrible. But because I won Christian Artists SAT second year.
The prize was a free trip to the Lilinus Drama
Festival in Kansas City, which is where they're the largest
publishers of Christian comedy sketches, and so I could go
there for free and see if they might be interested
in my comedy sketches. So I went there and the
head judge from Christian Artist is Patty Freeman. She lived
by the way in Kansas City, worked with littleness. Said
you're not gonna be believe you know, paulic teskers could
be when I worked, you know. So no, I didn't
know that, and she was, well, let me take you
into the green room. We go back to the green room.
She was Paul, Oh, that's that's private Paul. Paul. This
is Tory Martin. He lives in Alaska. He won the
grand prize at Christian Chartist and he goes, I'll last,
did you write a spec script for Adventures Lot see?
Oh yeah, yeah I did. I remember just in the
green room, like, wow, I remember it was. That was
the best script that we received. But we decided to
hold off on that. But you know, you run it
with a monkey involved, and we try to stay away
from things like because my grandma's character hat a monkey.
He's like, that's all news. Everybody always puts a monkey. Friends,
did it you know, my mister original, I'm gonna put
a monkey in this because I want something to represent me.
And he goes, would you like to try writing another
script because you're really good. I was like, oh yeah,
but you're not interested in that script? He goes, oh, no,
not at all. What it was the best one that
we got. And so I wrote another script. And I'll
tell you what. I tried two other scripts and I
just couldn't do it because Bernard, you Gene, Oh my goodness,
he's the smartest guy in the world. His vocabulary is
through the roof. Can you imagine me trying to write
something for Eugene or something wise and wonderful like mister
Whittaker and Connie, and so the scripts here, like Connie
would never say this, This doesn't sound like Eugene at all.
Eugene doesn't say huh, an awful lot, or what do
you mean? He usually knows. So I was having a
hard time because those those voices are so set in stone.
People know when they're listening to an episode. Oh well,
Connie would never say that. Mister Whitaker would never say
something like that. That doesn't sound like Eugene at all.
So now six months After that, I'm back at Christian
Artists and Paul McCusker is there this year as a judge,
and he takes me to lunch and he said, yeah,
those scripts weren't really good. That the humor an them was,
why don't you try to create a character based on
yourself and see if that might be more comfortable for
you to find a way to fit in here? And
I was like, oh, well, I could write for myself.
Nobody could tell me. Oh, he would never say something
like that, that would be easy. But then I was stuck again.
I was like, I'm myself, I'm just me. How do
you do that? How do you I don't you know.
It's like if I was blind, I wouldn't know what
I looked like. I don't know what other people. I
don't know how other people see me. I see me
as normal. I'm mean they see me differently, however, I
guess and I because I wasn't sure, and I go
to Paul sit across the lynch and I go, well, yeah,
I could do that, but what do you mean? What
would that be? Like? What do you mean? And he goes, well,
and I'll never forget this. It would be somebody who
is bumbling, bizarre, bullible and I and I remember just
sitting in acrossroom him hearing myself described like that, and
I was like, and you have to remember, I was
a fat kid with quickly fet I had to wear
special shoes. I didn't have friends growing up. I'm very different.
I'm not used to compliments, but here I'm getting four
compliments in a row from Paul McCasker. That's awesome, that's awesome.
Praise the horn. So that's what I did. And then
he said, after I've written the script, I had given
him a different name. He said, you know, there's this
village in England where it's called Wutin Bassett, and I've
been saving that name for a long time because I
want to use it. I think that would be a
great name for this character. And so there Toda Wuton Bassett.
Speaker 1: That's so cool.
Speaker 2: I always wish I could have named him, though, because
it feels like you created him, but you didn't do
the name, so you know. But yeah, so that was
that was fun. Gave him my dog Sam in clubhouse.
And I only write about things that I know and
the things that affect me. Have you ever watched a
movie or listen to a podcast and felt like they
were trying to emotionally manipulate you with the scene that
was going on, but it did not have the ring
of truth, and you feel like you're getting talked down to.
Most writers are really scared to reveal their own vulnerabilities,
you know, like, oh, if I tell the truth in
this character, then they're going to know that I'm insecure,
or that I struggle with anxiety or have low self esteem.
But it's those things, when you share those things that
are that moment of truth, that moment of authenticity that
truly resonates with a listener and truly ministers because, believe
it or not, there's other people out there who struggle
with anxiety, low self esteem and can totally identify with
that character or they're ADHD or they think differently and
they find safety in that character and hope to continue
on through the trials else Okay, I'm going to shut
up down. Sorry, that was ADHD at action. So it
was just one question. That was one question. I gave
a twenty minute answer. Okay, next, well here's a quick one.
Then I guess yes, blue, that's my favorite color.
Speaker 1: If you were able to give him a name. What what?
What would you have named the character?
Speaker 2: Well, Okay, to be honest, I was going to call
him Oliver Malarkey because Oliver means peace. Yeah, Oliver, Oliver
means peace. The other option was Montgomery Malarkey, but I
thought Montgomery's hand it too formal. But I like the alliteration. Hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well you've alluded to a few times already, the the
experience of moving to Alaska, and that ended up. You know,
a bunch of these scenarios that you experience ended up
in a book called and Men, which was published in
twenty sixteen. Is that correct?
Speaker 2: Yes? It was. By the way, it was co written
with my wonderful friend Doug Peterson. He's written a lot
of VeggieTales stuff, and we met at another conference and
he told me that he thought my stories would make
a good book. No. Remember, I was just writing sketches.
I was like, Oh, I could never write a book.
Sketches I can do on my home, but you're talking
about proper ground. I'm not going to be able to
do that. I can't do some description. Oh, the sunset
was a brilliant, marvelous orange that brought flutters to my heart,
I couldn't do it. I just like doing the funny
and the situations, creating the situations, so we go write
it and I would just write when I could, and
he would fix it and make it chronically, which led
to my getting other publicly. But I've now written movies
and everything for it that they're like, oh no, we
have entire staffs of people in our publishing house who
can do your grammar. There's a lot of people who
go to college children how to write, and they learn
all the rules, but they can't tell a story. You
can tell stories, so we will have our staff fix
them up, which is like what Jesse Floria does with
me for Clubhouse Magazine. I write Wooten's random ramblings and
created Tory a little girling toy toy stories in Clubhouse.
And he always says, the great thing about yours you
always have a lot of ideas. I give you a
six hundred word out and it always comes back with
thirty two hundred words. So I need to choose through
all that. And it's true because OFHD and even writing
in the movies with Marshall Younger is my writing partner.
He's like, okay, Tori, you got ten jokes on this page.
We only need one, which honey A want because they've
got to be serious sometimes too.
Speaker 1: That's perfect. So this new show that you're working on
or that is out there now, it's it's going to
be released weekly. Is those stories that you wrote which
are just delightful tales that just don't know. They give
us a little bit of humor and then a little
bit of heart. And so those stories have been taken
dramatized with a cast. You've got music and you're narrating
it and each chapter gets released as an episode. The
first three episodes are out. I've heard them, The Prodigal Reindeer, Shake,
Rattle and Roar and Obedience School. Now, you said that
Marshall Younger helped out or assisted in some way with
this adaptation project. How did that work?
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's crazy. I don't know how long your
listeners are going to be interested in this, but it
was such a good thing for me. In the book,
I'll have to back up. In my home church in
Bear Valley lasta I was part of a small Bible
sitting group and there was a Madden named Larry Lauer
who was attending, and he was a hard rock DJ
and anchoragement. But he was a Christian and we were
in the small Bible seting group together and he started
feeling the call to get into Christian radio at the
same time that I was considering wanting to write for
Adventurous Seeing and possibly moving from Alaska because these doors
were opening up. I didn't want to leave my cabin
and go out to the world. I did not, but
he wanted to leave, and he well, then he was
the first one to leave. And Larry went on to
become one of the people who started air one Radio
network Airwin Christian Radio, which is the second largest radio
station in the Christian radio station of the nation. And
he then went on to be the main driving DJ
for k Love Christian Radio National. Is that crazy? From
my little church in Alaska, in Eagle River, Alaska, from
this little church and we'll praying this, And he goes
ought to do that we captain touch. He was watching
my career unfold. I'm leaving Alaska. I'm now in Tennessee. Well,
he then retired from Taylor. This is I mean, this
is I'm talking like twenty five years now, and they
decided to open a new podcast passed network and they
were looking for a host, and so they told to Larry.
They said, Larry, you've interviewed everyone who out of all
the people that you've interviewed on pylove, give me a
list of who you think would be a good podcast hosts.
And I didn't know this, but my name was the
first name on the list. And he said, because I
know that we've got Maxicato all these other people, but
if you want to reach a new generation of people
who really want to find the Lord who doesn't talk Christians,
who's going to be honest and relatable and funny, this
guy back up I had. After all these years in
the Christian entertainment industry, I got stabbed several times, and
I was so discouraged by some of the stuff I
was seeing Christian entertainment that I stepped out of it
six years ago and I decided, you know what, I
just can't do this. It's affecting me. I'm getting jaded.
And I was so innocent, and now I said, expect
everybody has an ulter year motive that they're just do
it in the name of the Lord. But I really
wore a lord. So I just quit. I walked away
and I decided I want to be Jesus right here
in my hometown to the people around me. And I
never left my house. So I started getting involved downtown
Sparta and I'm probably happy, but I was really struggling
with depression. I was just really honest. I was really
struggling with depression. That's not a fun thing because you know,
my career was over, so it's funny. You have to
step away from the Christian entertainment sometimes just to get
close to God. And I challenged myself to a six
month season of yes because that would give me six
months of guaranteed living because I was really in a
dark place. I'm going to say yes to things that
I normally would have said no to as long as
it's not against my morals. But if somebody invites me
to dinner, although I'm social awkward and I would I'm
going to go. If somebody as if asking to do
something that I normally wouldn't do, like well, kayaking, I've
never kayaked before, I'm gonna go. And I got those
invitations and started doing all this, and my faith was
growing up. He was meeting people I didn't know. It's
sharing Jesus with them, And it was the last day
of my season of Yes, the very last day, and
this guy, Ronnie Taylor, who worked at the podcast, reached
out and said, we're looking for some new house and
you were suggested to me for possibly doing a podcast.
And I'm like, oh, I don't even know. I don't
listen to podcasts. I don't listen to the radio because
I've got ADHD. I'm very creative. I can't have outside
influence in my brain. I've got a whole circus going
on in my head. I don't have time to be distracted.
And I was like, I don't want to do that.
He was coming from Sacramento to Nashville in a month,
and I would like you to pitching your idea for
a podcast while you're there, if you would. And I
was like, it's the last day. I don't even know
what a podcast is, but okay, that will give me
a month to find out. Why would I Why would
he do that? It didn't make sense to me. It's
like whatever. So then I listened to my first podcast
and I didn't like them. It's like they would have
an hour long show and they would just talk about
the same thing over and over and over. It was
like this little it didn't go anywhere. And their laugh
is like you know when a DJ laugh is like, oh,
everything's funny. If that's something, I'm like, no, I'm not
interested in that. Or they were all geared towards one thing,
like oh, we're just going to talk about politics or
another show. We just talk about Hollywood, another show. They're
into one niche and I'm like, no, that will never
work with my ADHD and they'll never go for this.
But this is what I would do. I would create
a show called Sidetracked. And because I work in the
music industry and the film industry have a club industry,
I would want to interview all my friends because then
it's just about promoting Damn. I get to ask the
questions and make them funny one liners. They get to
see all the smart things, and I'll be smart by association.
I went into the office and I was like, they're
gonna say I'm sorry about my one of my six
straight dogs that I rescue. I've got six straight dogs,
seven stray cats. People just dump them out here in
the woods. I think they talked to each other. They're like, hey,
fat guy has food head for the greenhouse. There's like
an underground railroad for petity or show up. I can't
see the straight because I see myself at him. I'm like,
I'm here, Daddy wants you, so I go in to
pitch it. I go, Okay, here's your thing. I would
call it a sidetrack because I don't want to be
locked into any one thing. I don't want to be
forced to have to talk about anything I don't want
to talk about. I want to talk about the authentic people.
I left the industry because I got a lot of wounds.
I don't care what the industry has to say anymore.
I want God to set up wholly introductions and define
appointmance and lead me to the people that you ask
me to talk to. And that's what I would do.
I'm thinking there, I'm done. He goes, that sounds great, Well,
tell me more about this book you did. It must
have been and as I told him, and he goes,
you know what if we did an adaptation of your book,
because most people don't know you, that will serve as
a way for people to get to know you. Because
you're blunt, you don't edit yourself. You might come across
the people and whack a doodle. And if we do
your book, I'll get to know you and your heart.
And well, this is the other thing I'm going to interact.
Remember this, when I was living in Alaska and all
those crazy things are happening because I don't watch television,
I don't listen to the radio. Whenever these crazy things
would happen every day, I would try to look into
what God was trying to speak to me that day.
There has to be a lesson here somewhere, and so
that's what I would do. That's why at the end
of each chapter there's a spirit tropic that goes with
that crazy, adventurous story, because that's my way of sharing it.
So he said an adaptation of a voice in Men,
and I was like, that's an audiobook. That's where you
read the book. That's an audiobook. That's not a podcast that.
I'm like, no, an audiobook, No, No, that doesn't really
interest me. But I'll think about it. But thank you,
and I left and I'm driving home. I'm thinking, you know,
it would be fun. What do interest me capture my
creativity is if I could adapt that not into a narration,
but into a radio drama and have all of these
actor friends like Katie Lee who plays Connie and Phil
Lawler and Nancy Stafford who is on TV's Matlock, and
Michael Joyner from the Grace Card funniest comedian and my
friend from a point of Grace said if I could
get them to play all of the characters that had
their voices, now, that would be fun and I'd be
working with my friends because now I have friends. So
I called him and I was like, what about this
seems like okay, let's give it a shot. So that's
been called Marshall. It was like, Marshall, I need your help.
I wrote the book with Doug Peterson, but Marshall Younger
is what helped me to adapt it for radio. And
I got to add all sorts of new material that
I didn't before because now I could do whatever I want.
Now we're in my room, I don't have to use
the grammar type of stuff. Doug had done that with
the book. Of course, I'm adding more jokes and Marshall's like, okay, yeah,
I already got fourteen jokes on this page. You only
need to and he he did. I love him. I
love Marshall Younger. So there and then of mussen men
was done. Jad it was done in five months. This
was five years ago. It was done. And there it
sat and sat and sad and sad because I was
not really smart. They were just starting off. And the
Texas s Coore has a great podcast network. They've got
Max and they've got Cantas Cameron Burg who's talking about
haw Olujahati. She was one of my first questions. You know,
these are big name people, huge name people who are
wanting to be able to and those took the priority
over work, you get it, because they they've got to
use names to get their feet you know what I mean.
They can't say we've got Tory Martin and of Muse
and Menska to go into sidetracked. Well, then over the
course of those years they were no longer interested in sidetracked,
but we had already engineered with their engineer Phil. I
cast it, I got all my actor friends, I chose
the lines, scout the marks directed. It's a completed thing
that just sat there. But they weren't interested in Sidetrack
to do more because they've got these big names. And
I'm praying and I'm getting discouraged, and you know, we
didn't have a contract, and I don't care. I've now
learned a lesson. I don't care how christian an organization is.
There's still business people and lawyers with everything. Never do
work first without a contract, because you don't. And I'm
the type of person I don't have lawyers. I don't
have people looking out for my interests. I don't I
do now. A dear friend, Honey Cornball, who were in
South Georgia at the studios, who brought this thing through.
I was like, I can't handle these negotiation with things anymore.
I don't know what to do. I don't understand. But
she took over everything and brought it through, and I
had given up on it. I had, actually, but I'm
still praying every day if I bother because I remember
I'm not in the industry. I'm not being used. This
is my big chance five years ago moo spin And
there's a part of me thinking, oh no, Well, maybe
you're protecting the world from me. Lord, Maybe you don't
want to use me as me. Maybe he's funny, use
me as a booten or the fictional characters. I'm never
going to fit into the Christian world. I'm not pretty,
I'm not smart, I'm not. I'm not all those I
don't have all that. I don't know what he is
for that of a polished Christian, I don't. I stumble,
I bumble. I follow and I learn and I get
back up and I stumble. And I always tell people
I bumbled by way to God. I bumbled my whole
way learning lessons. He drew me slowly to himself. So
finally the contract got worked out. I signed it. I
thought they would sign right a. I'm so excited. It
was like two weeks because it's over Christmas break, no answer.
I thought, Oh, they might have changed their mind. I
was so hopeful. And then Christmas Eve at four o'clock
and email came in said the contract is fully executed,
signed him. It's going to become a real thing. And
so since Christmas Eve to now what I've been waiting
and hope for fires out. And now I thought, oh,
that'll be the end of it. But it's just the beginning,
because you know, they want you to do social media
posts and all this promotional stuff that I'm not good at.
That stuff I feel weird talking about. Look at me,
look at it. You know what I mean? You know,
this whole thing is in God's project this whole time.
And just like I challenged him to let me in
third place, if you wanted to use me, I'm like God,
if you want this to be a success, you get
the word out. You did it with your own word,
the Holy Bible. You got your word out. I think
you don't need Twitter, Instagram, Facebook. It did pretty good.
So if this is from you, let a grassroots something
happen and get the word out. Otherwise, don't let anybody
hear it. If I'm going to you know my future,
if I'm going to cause you any embarrassment or anything,
I don't want. I don't want to do that. So
have your will and keep me close. And I don't
want I mean, I don't want to leave my home again.
I left my cabin. I went into the industry. It
ate me up, spit me out. I want to be
used by God. But right here at my own house,
right I have to go to red carpet stuff. I
don't have to do any of that stuff that makes
you feel phony. I don't want to have to deal
with that stuff again. It makes me feel it takes
me away from the Lord. It doesn't bring me closer
to the Lord. It takes me away. And I made
that decision when I was doing comedy shows that're like, oh,
you've got to carry your product to sell to those people.
And they wanted me to carry my first book of
Muss and Man. And there's something that happens when you
get off that stage and you're at this book table
and people are just wanting to talk to you and
you've got a pile of books that your business mind
is saying, I've got to sell these books. Oh, stop
telling me about your problems. Buy a book. Are you
going to buy a book? I'm not If you're not
going to buy a book and move on, I'm like,
I am not carrying any products. That is not what
God has me here for. I'm not carrying one thing
to sell. I'm there for the people. If God has
used me to touch their life. I want to make
a personal connection. What I want just with them. And
again that's a freeing thing because you don't have to
worry about anything that's serving the Lord and being obedient.
So yeah, I want to do these this is what
I want to do. I want to adapt my books
of comedy sketches. I want to do it with people
that I know. I want to give first time voice
actors a chance and work with them. I want to
build I want to have a legacy to leave. I'm
a diabetic, I just turned sixty two years old, my
hair so longer read. I don't know how long I'm
going to be here. And that depression really scared me.
So by staying busy and investing lives together and building
the kingdom, that gives me a purpose.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well, and that's what's so beautiful. And I
hadn't actually read the book yet, so I'm experiencing this
content for the first time, listening to this audio version
of it, and you know, you you sit there and
you're like, Okay, this is a funny story. You're you're
getting pulled in. There's there's funny things happening. You're chuckling,
and then you know, you get to the to the end,
and then suddenly you're like, oh wow, he's he's pulling
this beautiful truth out of this what some might consider
a little bit bizarre, but it's still mundane life. It's
just things that people face in life. But I love
that you said that earlier, that you try to see
what what what can I learn from this, and I
think that's key. That's so key, trying to face everything
that we go through. It comes our way in life
from day to day. Hey, it may just be a
mundane interaction with somebody at the grocery store or whatever
it might be. Even if it's bizarre, like having a
reindeer in your kitchen, you know, there's something we can
we can glean from that. And so the way you
use the humor in such a wonderful way, to the
humor helps people let down their guard, right, and.
Speaker 2: It does, it really does.
Speaker 1: They get pulled into that that story, and then.
Speaker 2: People don't mind learning while they're laughing. It doesn't hurt
as much, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And then you bring around these beautiful lessons
at the end of each chapter. And I don't know
if you saw it yet, but I responded to your
email the other day and just like, wow, this is
this is beautiful. It's it's a wonderful example of storytelling
and just just great storytelling. It's it pulls the people
in and then you have this really poignant moment at
the end, and I was tearing up. I'll be honest,
I was tearing up listening to those and it's just
a delightful show. Delightful show.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thank you so much. You know,
the biggest gamble in that was what we talked about earlier,
making a true emotional connection, making yourself vulnerable. Just tell
it like it is. It makes me look like an idiot.
I know, I know, I live inside of me. I know,
I know. But there's got to be other people like
this too, who think that God can't use them because
they're adhder, because they know they're not shiny people, the
shining stars in the church. There usually people cleaning the
church or working in the nursery, that overlooked people. There's
got to be other people like that, so I want
to reach them. I don't care about the shiniese. I
want that the other ones. So yeah, thank you though.
I love that you said it teered up because that
means it made a real emotional connection of that's that's
most important to me.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, well thank you, and audio has that. Of course,
everybody can go read the book, and I recommend go
get a copy. I'm going to get one myself. But
just hearing it, there's something so intimate about that situation
where you're just sitting there listening, even if you're doing
something else while you're listening to this story and you
telling this fun story, and it just it just comes
right right into the heart. And I think it's just
a fantastic way to connect with people. And that's why
I love audio drama so much. Is it's it's so portable.
You know, you can take the story with you at
wherever you go while you're doing something else, but you
can learn from these stories and be entertained by them
at the same time.
Speaker 2: It's a win win, And you know, well, I guess
you still have sound effects and stuff, but it's not
as first of all, whatever you're imagining while you're listening
this far more beautiful than the camera could ever capture.
You know. The imagination of radio drama is so much
more than what they could ever film if it was
a movie, which is what I love about Odyssey. Are
so dependent on good writing to keep your attention, to
keep you in the story. You're not depending on visuals.
You're depending on a good story with sound effects to
enhands exactly. Yeah, so yeah, I love Admitt Shaughnessy. Marshall
Younger is my favorite writer, and my favorite favorite writer
is L m. Montgomery. You see here, I'm giving this
set of books to a kid that I met over
at my friend Adam Greg's house, and Adam is the
first ad for the series have chosen and the reason
Anna green Gables Well and Where the Red Room Closes
is another favorite book. And this is what Odyssey does too.
They created for Anna green Gables believable characters Matthew, Marilla, Diana, Gilbert,
all there on Prince Edward Island and the stories that
happened made you and it makes you wish that you
lived in Prince Edward Island and have the friends that has.
So everything that I write is always set in a community.
Every movie, everything is packed with individuals that I was
a friendless person, so I created imaginary friends. I create
communities of people that I wish I was friends with,
and hope the audience will feel the same about those things.
Odyssey does that. It makes you, don't you wish you
lived at Odyssey? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't you? Yeah, that's writing exactly. Yeah, yeah, well
you alluded to this earlier. If they don't come across
as true, genuine, that people aren't going to connect. But
when those characters are written so well, when you're taking
inspiration from people in real life, not caricatures. People can
relate to that, and that is a tool that we
can use as creatives, as storytellers to then put a
little bit of truth in there and some biblical principles
and things like that. And people are learning even while
they're being entertained, as I said a moment ago. So
it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Learning even while that's a smarter way of saying, laughing
while they're learning doesn't hurt so much. Learning while they're
being entertained. I agree. I like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm going to tell the listeners right now
in the links to this episode, if you head over
to the website. The description for this episode is links
to Tory's website Tory Martin dot com, t O R R.
Y Martin dot com and link to.
Speaker 2: By the way that just came about, I've still got
to add. I mean, there's stuff there, but I want
to add pictures for the real people. This is the
other thing. Every story that you hear or read is
an actual thing. And I would always take pictures of
mister Brewster and the reindeer. Everything has it happened? All
those pictures there, but they are going to go on
the website see see pictures that support chapter one, chapter two. Yeah,
so it's in the words that that's Tory Martin dot com.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. So The Brinkman Adventures is an audio drama
that tells true missionary stories through audio drama. And so
every single episode they put accompanying photos of the real
events and stuff like that. So I love it when
you get that extra behind the scenes material. That's that's
cool that you're you're gonna do something similar because, like
I said, as an audio drama nerd, all the behind
the scenes stuff is so fun for me. And so yeah,
Tori's website and of course links to the podcast itself
of Moose and min.
Speaker 2: It's on Apple and Spotify and access Moore dot com,
access more.
Speaker 1: Dot com exactly. Yep, that is linked up in the
show notes as well as for the curious people. The
press release about the show, a little bit of the
behind the scenes some of the other people involved that
you can hear I've already heard picked out Katie Lee
and in the first episode and two or two.
Speaker 2: And Victoria Jackson from Saturday Our Live is in that
first the ranger. She's the other shopkeeper with Kate.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, okay, that's awesome, and a couple other names that
our community here will be familiar with. Of course you
mentioned already Phil Lawler, but Garrett Van and Tracy of
the Witnesses show. Tracy Van Dolder is in there. So
it's just a fun, delightful show. And as you said,
it's not exactly the same sort of style as Adventures
and Odyssey. It's it's different, but it's a sort of
a hybrid audio drama and audiobook, which is fun. And
so we talk about those kinds of productions here on
the show as well. So I'm excited. I'm excited for you.
I'm excited for the listeners to be able to experience
this show as well. And I'm having a great time
with it. And you know, I just want to say
thank you for for well, for one being so friendly
to me at the one Grand Party. It was great
to meet you, and then thankful you were.
Speaker 2: Friendly to me. Everybody was clamoring after you. I'm just
standing there. That was crazy getting to meet you. Yeah,
an honor to have met you that, it's an honor
to get to know you now. And I really I'll
tell you everybody who knows me knows and every diference
what I pray. Actually, Father God, I asked you today
to guide my steps and direct my path, put people
in front of me who I can help and who
can help me, and in that order others. First I
surrendered my steps to you and asked you to fill
your agenda through me in Jesus name, and then you go.
And it's just serendipity. So meeting you serendipity. I believe
this is God led this conversation. You're the only person
who's reached out about these men. You're it. This is
my first interview. Wow, this is it. I don't even
know if there's gonna be anything else, but thank you
for extending that invitation. When I got that in my email,
I was like, oh wow, and it's the guy from
the doors at the Adventure's a lot of the important
guy who was talking to you. You're a really popular man.
Oh well, I was like, is he a celebrity? What's
going on? No?
Speaker 1: Not quite, not quite, but.
Speaker 2: Well you have a lot of people who love you.
Speaker 1: I am so blessed. Yes, this community, I said it
to you before we started recording. There's just they've become friends.
Many of these people that I've enjoyed their work for
so long, they've become friends and almost like a second
family to me. And so I'm very appreciative of everybody
in this space. And now I can count you among those.
Now that we've met and we've connected, and that you've
taken time this evening to come on the podcast is
a privilege, and I just want to say thank you
for that.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. Hey. I want to say one more
thing that you your audience might find interesting. Why did
I make WoT a postman? Oh, I'll tell you why.
Because I had to go down to the post office
once a week to get my mail, and that would
be the only time that I would interact. I would
talk to the people in the post office, the mailman
all the time. Any good adventures, anything good? Because I
went to we had a walmart and a grid. At
first came in. I tried talking with the people reader,
but then he thought I was taking up too much
of his time and was offering people grocery cars. She's like,
that's my job. We're in a tugget wer over a
cart to give it a stranger. I'm just looking for friends.
So the post office, became friends with them, and I thought, man,
if I could, I didn't have to treash through nine
feet of snow and sub zero temperatures. I would want
to be a mailman, to say, you could meet everybody
in your whole city. You could find out what's going on.
You could have tons of friends right there in your mirror. Yeah,
that's what I would. I want him to be a mailman. Mmm.
So that's that cool.
Speaker 1: Well here's a little bit of a tangent then too.
When I was growing up, my dad was a subcontractor
for the Postal Service and we did a I helped
him do a rural mail route. So we would go
to the big post office in the city, pick up
all the bags of mail to the little towns out
in the in the rural areas early in the morning,
and we drive it up to those small post offices
and then they would take those and deliver it out.
And then we'd also pick up the ones from the
mail boxes on the side of the road there, those
big blue bins and unlock them, take those bags down
and take them back down to the large post office
in the city. So I've never talked about that on
this show. In the nearly fifteen years.
Speaker 2: See we're kindred spirits as and would say two redheaded
postal workers.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, thank you, thank you well huge thanks
again to Tory Martin for coming on the show. What
a delightful conversation. I hope you will go and check
out his new show. All of the links to everything
we talked about is in the show notes. Those show
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