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Speaker 1: And now Audio Theater Central. Hello, Welcome to Audio Theater Central.

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This is the show that explores family friendly audio drama

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through news, reviews and interviews. I'm your host, JD. Sutter,

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and this is episode to zero nine. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome

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to the show. I've got a fantastic interview coming up

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with Tory Martin, the creator of Wotton Bassett on Adventures

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and Odyssey. I've got some audio drama updates coming in

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just a moment. Now, I know that I said last

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time I was going to address all of your feedback

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in this episode. I am so sorry. I'm going to

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have to move that to next episode again. There is

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a lot happening and life just got in the way

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of the show prep this month. I'll tell you one

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of the reasons for that here in the next segment.

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So let's get to the audio drama updates.

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Speaker 2: We interrupt this program to bring you a special report

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and in other news tonight.

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Speaker 3: A brief look at the headlines now and.

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Speaker 2: What exciting fast piece news that's relevant and entertaining like this.

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Speaker 1: Well, before we jump into the updates, just a quick reminder,

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as always, you can send your updates about a show

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that you are involved in or you know about. You

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can go to PFM dot link, slash atc news or

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click the button on our website to let us know

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all of the juicy details so we can share it

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with this community. Well, the first item is I was

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asked to write a guest editorial for the Aio Update

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website and it was just recently published, and it's called

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the Taming of the Tech The Value of Audio Drama

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in a visual World. And I just decided to focus

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a little bit on unplugging in our tech focused world

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and how audio drama fits into the picture and fits

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into our fast paced, screen centric lives these days, and

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why it's such a great story medium. And so the

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idea for this article came many years ago in fact,

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and David Hilder, who runs the Aio Update website, reached

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out and asked me if I was willing to write

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an article, and I said yes. He threw out a

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few topic suggestions and one of them was similar to

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this in a similar vein, And so I took this

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idea that I had several years ago and sort of

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merged it with the focus of the Aio Update website,

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which is of course on adventures in Odyssey, and so

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I worked in some references there. But interesting note, I

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started this article, wrote just a couple of hundred words

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maybe actually it may have only been a paragraph or so,

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and then I had some bullet points. And it's been

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sitting in my notes app for years because somebody else

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approached me about writing an article along these lines several

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years ago for a different publication, and then that deal

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fell through, and so this article idea and the first

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few sentences of it has been sitting in my notes

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for all this time. And I always thought, I'm going

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to get back to that and either write it as

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an article for ATC and post it on our blog,

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or I'm going to do it as a monologue segment

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here on the show. Once I started that segment, and

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I just hadn't done it yet. So it worked out,

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and so it is now out, And if you don't

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you with the embedded audio player on the Aio Update website.

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to check that article out and let me know what

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you think by commenting on the AIO update website. There

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next up something to be on the lookout for. And

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done as I would have liked to for this episode.

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And you know, it's not an entirely negative thing, because

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it's a fun project, and that is the Audio Drama

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Alliances production of The Hardy Boys and The Tower Treasure.

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recent episodes since we made the initial announcement last fall

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or late summer. But we recently shared the cast for

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the Hardy family and so we've got some great actors.

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and John Tuttle II, and Fenton Hardy and Laura Hardy,

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the parents of the Hardy Boys, in case you're unfamiliar

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with that series, we'll be played by Peter Fasari and

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Alisha Hanson. So it's so exciting to be moving on

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this project. Like I said, a moment ago. More info

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moving along, so hopefully we'll be moving into production here

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very soon. All right, a couple of new releases. Kaboom

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Meaugic Lamp, and that dropped on January thirty. First, it's

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a twenty four minute episode about an antique shop owning

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family that discovers a magic lamp, but mayhem ensues when

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the genie will only obey the one who rubbed the lamp.

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There head cat. So that is just the first episode

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of season four. And here is the trailer for season

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four of Kaboom.

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you guys a secret? Yes, tell me

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every gory detail.

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Speaker 4: The Kaboom Podcast is back with a whole new season

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of audio adventures for the whole family cool. In each episode,

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you'll need a whole new cast of characters.

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Speaker 2: To try it.

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Speaker 4: Video game character.

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Speaker 2: Make Incredible discoveries.

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Speaker 3: It's a phoenix.

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Speaker 1: You can talk to.

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Speaker 4: Cats and head out on epic adventures. We're surrounded by

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deadly lasers and walls of ice.

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Speaker 2: Because you're supposed to burst into flames like that.

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Speaker 4: Our season premiere stars members of the sketch comedy shows

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Studio CE.

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Speaker 2: Nobody does it better than one.

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Speaker 4: So many adventures your mind will go kaboom.

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Speaker 2: Dude, that's so cheesy.

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Speaker 4: Kaboom Season four premiere's January thirty first subscribe now on

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Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: No be gone, okay, rude.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Sounds like a lot of fun in

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store for this episode. And as you heard in that trailer,

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this first episode is a collab with the sketch comedy

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group Studio C that is in this first episode. I

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so links in the show notes for that. Next up range,

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First Ax Productions. If you are unfamiliar with it, it

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is about four unlikely animal friends who meet on Upton Heights,

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where adventure might be found resting around the pond or

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exploring the beautiful mountains around them. Humor is a common thread,

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and guests show up and keep these guardians of Upton

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Heights entertained, Bring the family, and enjoy Each episode also

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his young sidekick Obi as they work to make Predicament

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Falls a better place. And this is just a fun,

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fun show, or a really fun premise with some colorful

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and very entertaining characters. And this is episode three, which

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just dropped, and Glenn Haskell, the creative force behind this, said,

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it's been a very fun sandbox to play in. I

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this year and hopefully a similar amount next year. It

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has been a delight to revisit concepts and ideas and

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fashion new things from existing ideas. So I've been really

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enjoying these episodes. And he also let us know that

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Jonathan Cook is going to be joining the show as

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Buster's older brother Chester from his Chester and Ralphie show,

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like that. But yeah, this is a really really fun

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thing and it totally makes sense to have those characters

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interact in some way, so that will be lots of fun.

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Range Drifters is an exclusive show to Drama Fi, so

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And lastly is a promo for a new show that

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just launched and we're going to be talking a lot

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about this with our guest in just a few minutes.

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Tory Martin, writer and actor, has just launched a new

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podcast called of Moose and Men Lost and Found in Alaska,

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and it is a captivating podcast adaptation of the book

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written by Tory Martin and Doug Peterson. You'll enjoy a

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collection of humorous and heartwarming stories that chronicle Tory Martin's

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adventure filled transformation from a struggling actor in Los Angeles

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to a man who finds spiritual fulfillment and personal growth

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in the rugged, untamed landscape of Alaska. Throughout the podcast,

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Toy shares his encounters with various Alaskan wildlife, including bears, moose,

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and reindeer, often finding himself in comedic and precarious situations.

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These experiences are not only entertaining, but also serve as

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metaphors for the lessons he learns about faith, humility, and

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God's presence in everyday life. Take a listen to this

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trailers more.

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Speaker 2: Alaska the last frontier. It was for me anyway.

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Speaker 5: I had always been a social misfit and never really

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fit in anywhere else, So I moved to the land

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of the midnight Sun, where I planned to live.

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Speaker 2: The life of a hideaway hermit.

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Accident Clothing Company, where I made burbekinis out of roadkill

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and jewelry out of moose droppings. And believe it or not,

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I wasn't the only eccentric entrepreneur here. In fact, it

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seemed like everyone who lived on a very fringe to

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So was filled with nothing but hippies, freaks, and weirdos.

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I'm home. Not only did I find my home here.

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bigger than my past, and bigger than my problems. But

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I found him in a very small place, a tiny, remote,

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isolated cabin in the middle of Bear Valley, Alaska. To

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be honest, I struggle with my faith at first, because

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while I knew that God loved me, I just wasn't

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Speaker 6: Of Moose and Men is the adventure field story of

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how I survived a blizzard of bizarre blunderings and bumbled

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my way to God. For more chapters of this wild adventure,

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we call of Moose and Men. Subscribe now on Access

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visit Torymartin dot com for more info.

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Speaker 1: And of course, that show is linked up in the

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show notes, and we're going to talk with Tory here

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in just a moment, all about that show and a

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Speaker 2: Just say your name and the role you're playing in

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this production.

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Speaker 1: Please excuse me, excuse me, the local news station would

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like to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Well, I got to sit down and chat with Tory

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a few days ago, and I'm going to roll that

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interview here in just a moment, just a little bit

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of a heads up. We were interrupted a few times

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by his dogs, and we tried our best to minimize

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those sounds in the background as much as possible in

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this audio, but occasionally you're going to hear that, and

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his journey, talking about what inspires him as a writer,

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and all of this great information that I thought was

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so well worth the conversation and sharing with you. So again,

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here too much, and I hope you still enjoyed this conversation.

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So let's talk to Tory. Well. I am thrilled to

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have a guest on Audio Theater Central today who is

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an actor, a writer, and a fellow Redhead, Tory Martin.

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Thank you so much for coming on the show. It

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Speaker 2: Well JD. It is a pleasure to be here. Thank

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you so much for the opportunity, and I'm looking forward

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to whatever. You know, I have chronic ADHD, so I

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never know what I'm going to say next to Trustee JD.

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I'm just as excited right now as you are.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, we ran into each other at the

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one Grand Party and I was so thrilled that I

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got to meet you and we only had a couple

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of minutes when you mentioned briefly you had a pride

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in the works, and so I've been excited to finally

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get to share it with the listeners. And it's here now,

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So we want to talk about that. It's a brand

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new show called of Moose and min We're going to

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talk about that in a moment, but if you don't

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mind before we do that, our community here knows you

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from your work primarily on Adventures and Odyssey over the years,

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and so I want to know, can we talk a

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little bit about that before we talk about the new show.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I could talk about forget the new show. I

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could talk about Adventures in honesty till I'm blue in

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the face. And by the way, listeners, I'm no longer

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a red hat. It has within the last five years,

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it's turned totally white. I blame it all on bite.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're still You're still a redhead to me, because

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I mean, we're few and far between these days, so

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we got to stick together.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've got the freckles, though you don't have freckles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all over the arms, but not the face.

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Speaker 2: How'd you dodge that bullet? I mean that machine gun?

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Because yes, talk about adventure snongs.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I assume that you you never imagine

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how beloved the character of Wutin Bassett would become it.

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You know, you were the one who helped create this

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wonderful addition to this show that so many of us love.

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As a creator, we dream of having our work just

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resonate with an audience. How does it make you feel

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to know how much AIO fans love the character of Wutin.

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I've I've talked to so many of them who say

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he's their favorite character.

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Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. It blows my mind.

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I Mean, when I was at one grand party at

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that celebration, just see all the fans of Wutin and

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all the T shirts and all of it, it just

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blew my mind. I was stunned because I just had

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no idea I created Wutin when I was living in

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my In fact, I talked about it in misson Men

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and that what we're going to talk about next. I

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shared the story of how I create invessad and was

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living in a remote cabin in Bear Valley, Alaska with

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the two hundred yard trail. I had the hike just

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to reach the cabin, and that's where my whole association

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with Adventures NAZI And it has been such a journey. No,

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I never thought when I was living in that remote

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cabin as a hermit, I never thought that I would

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be a writer. I never thought that I would do

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any of the things that I'm doing now. Ever, so

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it has been quite a journey that if they tune

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into them. We said, what we're gonna talk about later,

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you're going to hear that whole story and it's great, great,

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excellent excellence. Yes, but I can answer any questions you

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want about that.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, let's actually talk about the name here for

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a moment, because I had heard that the name Wooten

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Bassett was Paul McCusker's idea because of a town in

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the UK. But you created the character. So how did

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that collaboration work? Did you develop it and just hadn't

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come up with a name yet and he suggested that

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or what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, okay, so I was doing. I was at

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Christian Artist Seminar in the Rockies. My church had taken

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a collection to send me there to compete because I

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was acting fresh in Los Angeles, and I left there

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to move to Alaska to get away from some things

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that I needed to get away from. And that's where

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I accepted the Lord. My best friend Rob led me

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to the Lord in Alaska and I quit acting altogether.

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I gave up everything. I grew my hair long so

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it wouldn't look like my eight x ten and so

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my agents couldn't send me out to audition anywhere. And

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it took two years just to study presept Bible ministries.

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You're studying in depth, freaking studies like through Kay Arthur.

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And then after that my church, I would write sketches

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who performed them at the church. And my church secretary said,

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you know, we think God wants you to go back

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into acting. And there's this competition called Seminar in the

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Rockies that we want to take an operating and send

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you to compete. You have to write your own material stuff,

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but that's for like Amy Grant Oh my goodness, Keith Green.

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All those people got their start there by winning this competition.

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They had an acting category in a writing category two.

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So I went there to compete, and I called the

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Cusker from Adventure so Odyssey was one of my judges.

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And the first year, I mean, I went there and

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I won a grand prize in the acting category, which

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I couldn't believe it. It was a monologue I wrote

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about Papa Cheese's toy shop, and I was a Harry

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the hitpy for the Holy one dollar and I was

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jealous of the stand the suit for the Savior. Dolly

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is way more popular than me, and didn't did get

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anything of it. And after winning the grand price that

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usually launches most people's career, but for me, I thought

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it was an accident, you know, because I told you

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I was living in Los Angeles and I was living

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a very questionable lifestyle. I knew that God loved me

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now that I had accepted Jesus and asked him to

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be the lord of my life, but I didn't think

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he could use me because of my past. You know,

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I saved it. I was fine, that's one thing, But

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I think he could use me, and I've always had

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struggle with chronic eighty HT and hyperactivity. And I'm just

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not smart like other people, and I'm not socially, I'm

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just I'm a hot I'm bizarre, I'm a hot mess,

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I'm an eccentric. You know, what can I say? I

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think differently, And so I didn't do anything with that.

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I went back to the cabin, thought, oh, that was

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just talent. Talent is nothing. This is what I want

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to do is I'm want to be used by the Lord.

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So winning the competition meant nothing. But Paul McCusker and

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Martha Bolton asked that they could keep in touch with me,

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so I would write letters. I didn't have even an address.

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I would have to go down to the post office

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anchorage once a week to get the mail. And my

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PO box was two three three zero sixty six. Only

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in Alaska to post off office boxes go that high

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of a number because nobody has an address. And there

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would be a letter from Paul and Martha, and I

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would tell them about the latest experience, about the radio

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Bundy into the cabin, or about the ver Spray story

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and just crazy life be and me, and they thought

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they were really funny. And wife said, you know, we

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think you might be a writer. I'm like, no, I

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graduated high school with a D average. I barely graduated

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high school. Do you know. I had to take one

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night class at Olympic College with my mother just to graduate,

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because she was afraid I wouldn't go there, and it

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was a psychology credit. I had to make up. And

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trust me, the one thing you do not want to

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do is take a psychology class with your mother. I

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get turning into it. I go, you everything about me,

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this is all your thought. So I barely graduated and

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I don't even now. I don't do grammar. I don't

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do English stuff. I can tell you the difference between

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an adverb and a fraction or whatever. I don't know

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and I don't care. But I have a really active imagination.

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So they said I could tell stories that you can

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have somebody to help me with the grammar. So then

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based on those letters, they said, you know, because you

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went the acting competition last year, you get a free

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trip back to Christian Artists to get this year, but

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you can't enter the acting category. But there is also

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a sketch writing category, a writing category where people come

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from all over to compete and everybody's allowed three comedy

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sketches to enter each the judges take the names off,

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so the other judges they don't know which three sketches

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belong to which people, and then they change the thoughts

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so they're not even recognizable that you know, what goes together.

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And they said, we think you should come down and write,

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maybe entering the sketchwriting time. I was like, I don't

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know what that is. So Martha said, well, you know,

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I write comede sketches. It's like this, just put them

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in the right format. And I did. So I wrote

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three comedy sketches, sent them in and I had the

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free trip. I wasn't going to go back, and I'm

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the type of person I didn't make a lot of friends.

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But now these people at Christian Arts, Paul maccusker and

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Martha Bolton, they liked me, they were writing to me,

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they became friends. So I was more excited about having

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friends again going back to see them. And my prayer was,

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I'll just have to tell you this because it's crazy.

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My prayer was, Father God, if last year wasn't an accident,

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and you really do want to use me in spite

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of my past I've got to make sure it's you,

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because I don't want to be a temple on the

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face of God. I don't want to be that thing

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that embarrasses you in your name, you know, So if

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you really want to use me, you're going to have

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to let me win third place. And that's I'll know

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that you want to use me. Jesus Navy Man, I

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paid that. I thought third place was such because these

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are professional writers looking to get published and discovery. I'm

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not that third place seemed the higher than I could

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possibly even imagine that I wanted to make it. I

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wanted to know that it was the Lord, that he

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really wanted to use me. I had to know that.

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I didn't want to make any mistakes. And at the

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end of the week, you're taking all these writing classes

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with all these statements writers like call the customers teaching

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classes and tester and who's toe at Cliff George, who

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played Corey Chimberman the movie The Hiding Place, doesn't may

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much judges Danny and Saddie Brownley, who write a lot

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of comedy sketches. At the end of the week they

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do the awards, and I sat back in a back

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row all the way at the top by myself because

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I'm a big guy. You know. Everyone else they're all

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like wanted to be singers. They're all pretty people. They're

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all I call them the skinnys, you know, they're with

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their blazers and they're there Sam the Savior, and then

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there's me, my car heart overall lock here like I'm

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here for the Christian thing. And I sat all the

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way back because I feel self conscious sitting next to people,

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even in a movie theater, because I feel like I

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take up more than my fair share of arms space.

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And I didn't think there was a chance that I

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was going to win anything anyway. So I went all

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the way up the stairs, all the way up this

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huge amount of stairs and sat at the very top.

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I didn't think I would have to climb these stairs again.

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And they opened the envelook when it came to the

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comedy sketchwriting and this is the same you. You're Matthew

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West won for the singing category. And now, whenever Matthew

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West did I see each other? Do you remember that?

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I was like, yes, I was crazy because you were

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involved like nothing. And they opened up third place and

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they called my name. I couldn't believe it, and it

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was such an important thing to me. And I'm crying

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going down the stairs, but everybody else is like, wow, fact,

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Guy's really happy about third place. And I got the

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award and I'm wearing my car. I didn't dress up

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or anything. I was wearing my cars because I didn't

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think anything. I just didn't. I've never really liked myself.

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I really believed in myself, so I didn't think any anyways.

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To start going back up the steers. I get half

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way up. Those are a lot of steers and he

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opened the winner for second place, and he called my

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name again. Oh. I had not prayed that I would

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win second place. And I'm standing there and I had

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to turn around and walk that down. Now I'm standing,

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I'm like, this is crazy, and I got I got

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the trophy for a second and they took the pictures

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and then he said, you might as well stay here.

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I won first place too, for those three sketches. I

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went first, second, third, and the grand prize. I could

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not believe it. And there was Guy Ei there said

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do you have any more of these sketches, because we'd

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like to put them together and publish him as a book,

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and I remember saying a book is when you put

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them all together, right, and he goes, uh huh. So

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next thing you know, I'm a writer. And then Paul

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was like, well, this is what happened. My grandmother passed

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away and read about that in the book too. And

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I was now living in this remote cabinet in Alaska,

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and I couldn't afford to fly back and go to

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her funeral. But Martha Bolton was my friend now she

478
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,359
was Help's head writer, and she knew I was going

479
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,880
to be mourning my grandmother, especially the week thought I

480
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,079
wasn't going to be able to go to the funeral,

481
00:26:44,079 --> 00:26:48,200
and she said, Tory, she called me in my remote

482
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,319
cabinet and said, I just got something on my mind.

483
00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:54,559
I was given the opportunity to write for Adventures, and

484
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,559
obviously they're looking for some new writers, and there's a

485
00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:01,079
lot of professional writers who are sending it in scripts,

486
00:27:01,079 --> 00:27:02,799
and then they're going to be picking singing writers out

487
00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:06,559
of the scripts. I'm too busy right now. This has

488
00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:09,720
been going on for a year, but I want to

489
00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:12,079
call and ask him if I can extend my invitation

490
00:27:12,599 --> 00:27:15,519
to you, so this week you'll try writing an episode

491
00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:18,240
of Adventures. I was like, okay, but what is it?

492
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,119
What is Adventurous and Odyssey? She's like, it's a radio

493
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,279
drama and I was like okay. So she contacted them.

494
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,039
They said sure, I could go ahead, and I'm sure

495
00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:30,200
she sold them at the top story. Oh this poor

496
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,880
eccenter Gippy his good but he's mourning capt by himself,

497
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,519
he has nothing to do. Could I please let him?

498
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,759
Just for grins? Will you let him do it? Because

499
00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:43,319
I'm really worried about you. And then I went down

500
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,319
to the last Frontier Christian bookstore to see what Adventures

501
00:27:46,319 --> 00:27:51,079
Sunodyssey was because they were on cassette tapes, and I

502
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,200
listened to a couple and then I wrote an episode

503
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,640
of adventuresn Seed in two days, and I created a

504
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,319
character based in my grabb and I said it in

505
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,039
and waited and waited and waited and waited and waited

506
00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:07,440
and waited and waited, and I didn't hear anything. I

507
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,680
was so depressed. Oh it was terrible, I was, that's

508
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,839
been horrible. But because I won Christian Artists SAT second year.

509
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,880
The prize was a free trip to the Lilinus Drama

510
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,160
Festival in Kansas City, which is where they're the largest

511
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:30,519
publishers of Christian comedy sketches, and so I could go

512
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,880
there for free and see if they might be interested

513
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,200
in my comedy sketches. So I went there and the

514
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,839
head judge from Christian Artist is Patty Freeman. She lived

515
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,680
by the way in Kansas City, worked with littleness. Said

516
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,880
you're not gonna be believe you know, paulic teskers could

517
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,279
be when I worked, you know. So no, I didn't

518
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:49,000
know that, and she was, well, let me take you

519
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,240
into the green room. We go back to the green room.

520
00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:55,920
She was Paul, Oh, that's that's private Paul. Paul. This

521
00:28:56,079 --> 00:29:00,480
is Tory Martin. He lives in Alaska. He won the

522
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:04,720
grand prize at Christian Chartist and he goes, I'll last,

523
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,319
did you write a spec script for Adventures Lot see?

524
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,000
Oh yeah, yeah I did. I remember just in the

525
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,000
green room, like, wow, I remember it was. That was

526
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:19,279
the best script that we received. But we decided to

527
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,680
hold off on that. But you know, you run it

528
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:24,519
with a monkey involved, and we try to stay away

529
00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:27,599
from things like because my grandma's character hat a monkey.

530
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,960
He's like, that's all news. Everybody always puts a monkey. Friends,

531
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,319
did it you know, my mister original, I'm gonna put

532
00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:35,559
a monkey in this because I want something to represent me.

533
00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:39,519
And he goes, would you like to try writing another

534
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,039
script because you're really good. I was like, oh yeah,

535
00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:46,200
but you're not interested in that script? He goes, oh, no,

536
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,039
not at all. What it was the best one that

537
00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:52,680
we got. And so I wrote another script. And I'll

538
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,920
tell you what. I tried two other scripts and I

539
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:01,839
just couldn't do it because Bernard, you Gene, Oh my goodness,

540
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,039
he's the smartest guy in the world. His vocabulary is

541
00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:07,079
through the roof. Can you imagine me trying to write

542
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:11,359
something for Eugene or something wise and wonderful like mister

543
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,799
Whittaker and Connie, and so the scripts here, like Connie

544
00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:19,440
would never say this, This doesn't sound like Eugene at all.

545
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:26,319
Eugene doesn't say huh, an awful lot, or what do

546
00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:29,839
you mean? He usually knows. So I was having a

547
00:30:29,839 --> 00:30:33,599
hard time because those those voices are so set in stone.

548
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,480
People know when they're listening to an episode. Oh well,

549
00:30:36,519 --> 00:30:39,279
Connie would never say that. Mister Whitaker would never say

550
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:41,400
something like that. That doesn't sound like Eugene at all.

551
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,160
So now six months After that, I'm back at Christian

552
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:50,240
Artists and Paul McCusker is there this year as a judge,

553
00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:53,519
and he takes me to lunch and he said, yeah,

554
00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:57,119
those scripts weren't really good. That the humor an them was,

555
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,839
why don't you try to create a character based on

556
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,039
yourself and see if that might be more comfortable for

557
00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:09,720
you to find a way to fit in here? And

558
00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:12,440
I was like, oh, well, I could write for myself.

559
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,240
Nobody could tell me. Oh, he would never say something

560
00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:17,039
like that, that would be easy. But then I was stuck again.

561
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:20,240
I was like, I'm myself, I'm just me. How do

562
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:22,240
you do that? How do you I don't you know.

563
00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:25,039
It's like if I was blind, I wouldn't know what

564
00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:26,799
I looked like. I don't know what other people. I

565
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:29,119
don't know how other people see me. I see me

566
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:34,160
as normal. I'm mean they see me differently, however, I

567
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,039
guess and I because I wasn't sure, and I go

568
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,079
to Paul sit across the lynch and I go, well, yeah,

569
00:31:39,119 --> 00:31:41,400
I could do that, but what do you mean? What

570
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,359
would that be? Like? What do you mean? And he goes, well,

571
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,599
and I'll never forget this. It would be somebody who

572
00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:55,680
is bumbling, bizarre, bullible and I and I remember just

573
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:02,920
sitting in acrossroom him hearing myself described like that, and

574
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,119
I was like, and you have to remember, I was

575
00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:06,880
a fat kid with quickly fet I had to wear

576
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,039
special shoes. I didn't have friends growing up. I'm very different.

577
00:32:10,279 --> 00:32:13,920
I'm not used to compliments, but here I'm getting four

578
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:19,720
compliments in a row from Paul McCasker. That's awesome, that's awesome.

579
00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:24,079
Praise the horn. So that's what I did. And then

580
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,880
he said, after I've written the script, I had given

581
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,720
him a different name. He said, you know, there's this

582
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,759
village in England where it's called Wutin Bassett, and I've

583
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:35,799
been saving that name for a long time because I

584
00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:37,799
want to use it. I think that would be a

585
00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:44,240
great name for this character. And so there Toda Wuton Bassett.

586
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: That's so cool.

587
00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:47,559
Speaker 2: I always wish I could have named him, though, because

588
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,960
it feels like you created him, but you didn't do

589
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,640
the name, so you know. But yeah, so that was

590
00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:57,839
that was fun. Gave him my dog Sam in clubhouse.

591
00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:01,400
And I only write about things that I know and

592
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,960
the things that affect me. Have you ever watched a

593
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,880
movie or listen to a podcast and felt like they

594
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,759
were trying to emotionally manipulate you with the scene that

595
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,200
was going on, but it did not have the ring

596
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,079
of truth, and you feel like you're getting talked down to.

597
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,599
Most writers are really scared to reveal their own vulnerabilities,

598
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,880
you know, like, oh, if I tell the truth in

599
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,000
this character, then they're going to know that I'm insecure,

600
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,839
or that I struggle with anxiety or have low self esteem.

601
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,119
But it's those things, when you share those things that

602
00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:37,440
are that moment of truth, that moment of authenticity that

603
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:43,880
truly resonates with a listener and truly ministers because, believe

604
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,799
it or not, there's other people out there who struggle

605
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:52,000
with anxiety, low self esteem and can totally identify with

606
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:56,599
that character or they're ADHD or they think differently and

607
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:03,400
they find safety in that character and hope to continue

608
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,359
on through the trials else Okay, I'm going to shut

609
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,159
up down. Sorry, that was ADHD at action. So it

610
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,880
was just one question. That was one question. I gave

611
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,639
a twenty minute answer. Okay, next, well here's a quick one.

612
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:20,440
Then I guess yes, blue, that's my favorite color.

613
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: If you were able to give him a name. What what?

614
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:25,320
What would you have named the character?

615
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,199
Speaker 2: Well, Okay, to be honest, I was going to call

616
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:37,800
him Oliver Malarkey because Oliver means peace. Yeah, Oliver, Oliver

617
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,559
means peace. The other option was Montgomery Malarkey, but I

618
00:34:41,559 --> 00:34:48,000
thought Montgomery's hand it too formal. But I like the alliteration. Hmm. Yeah.

619
00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:51,079
Speaker 1: Well you've alluded to a few times already, the the

620
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:54,679
experience of moving to Alaska, and that ended up. You know,

621
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,800
a bunch of these scenarios that you experience ended up

622
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,079
in a book called and Men, which was published in

623
00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:03,719
twenty sixteen. Is that correct?

624
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:07,039
Speaker 2: Yes? It was. By the way, it was co written

625
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:10,000
with my wonderful friend Doug Peterson. He's written a lot

626
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,039
of VeggieTales stuff, and we met at another conference and

627
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:17,119
he told me that he thought my stories would make

628
00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:19,440
a good book. No. Remember, I was just writing sketches.

629
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,920
I was like, Oh, I could never write a book.

630
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,320
Sketches I can do on my home, but you're talking

631
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,000
about proper ground. I'm not going to be able to

632
00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:29,639
do that. I can't do some description. Oh, the sunset

633
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,920
was a brilliant, marvelous orange that brought flutters to my heart,

634
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,360
I couldn't do it. I just like doing the funny

635
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:41,039
and the situations, creating the situations, so we go write

636
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:44,079
it and I would just write when I could, and

637
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,199
he would fix it and make it chronically, which led

638
00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:50,159
to my getting other publicly. But I've now written movies

639
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:52,960
and everything for it that they're like, oh no, we

640
00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:56,280
have entire staffs of people in our publishing house who

641
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,800
can do your grammar. There's a lot of people who

642
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,519
go to college children how to write, and they learn

643
00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:05,159
all the rules, but they can't tell a story. You

644
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,719
can tell stories, so we will have our staff fix

645
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,400
them up, which is like what Jesse Floria does with

646
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,599
me for Clubhouse Magazine. I write Wooten's random ramblings and

647
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:21,280
created Tory a little girling toy toy stories in Clubhouse.

648
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,239
And he always says, the great thing about yours you

649
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,000
always have a lot of ideas. I give you a

650
00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:28,320
six hundred word out and it always comes back with

651
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,960
thirty two hundred words. So I need to choose through

652
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,039
all that. And it's true because OFHD and even writing

653
00:36:35,039 --> 00:36:37,199
in the movies with Marshall Younger is my writing partner.

654
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:40,159
He's like, okay, Tori, you got ten jokes on this page.

655
00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:43,519
We only need one, which honey A want because they've

656
00:36:43,519 --> 00:36:44,920
got to be serious sometimes too.

657
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: That's perfect. So this new show that you're working on

658
00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:52,519
or that is out there now, it's it's going to

659
00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:56,679
be released weekly. Is those stories that you wrote which

660
00:36:56,679 --> 00:37:00,880
are just delightful tales that just don't know. They give

661
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,519
us a little bit of humor and then a little

662
00:37:03,559 --> 00:37:07,159
bit of heart. And so those stories have been taken

663
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,800
dramatized with a cast. You've got music and you're narrating

664
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,840
it and each chapter gets released as an episode. The

665
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,119
first three episodes are out. I've heard them, The Prodigal Reindeer, Shake,

666
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,199
Rattle and Roar and Obedience School. Now, you said that

667
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,280
Marshall Younger helped out or assisted in some way with

668
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,119
this adaptation project. How did that work?

669
00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:32,119
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's crazy. I don't know how long your

670
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:34,000
listeners are going to be interested in this, but it

671
00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:36,760
was such a good thing for me. In the book,

672
00:37:37,519 --> 00:37:40,039
I'll have to back up. In my home church in

673
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:42,119
Bear Valley lasta I was part of a small Bible

674
00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:45,480
sitting group and there was a Madden named Larry Lauer

675
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:49,440
who was attending, and he was a hard rock DJ

676
00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:52,440
and anchoragement. But he was a Christian and we were

677
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,079
in the small Bible seting group together and he started

678
00:37:55,079 --> 00:37:58,760
feeling the call to get into Christian radio at the

679
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,599
same time that I was considering wanting to write for

680
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,960
Adventurous Seeing and possibly moving from Alaska because these doors

681
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,039
were opening up. I didn't want to leave my cabin

682
00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:12,800
and go out to the world. I did not, but

683
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,920
he wanted to leave, and he well, then he was

684
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,440
the first one to leave. And Larry went on to

685
00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:22,599
become one of the people who started air one Radio

686
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:26,239
network Airwin Christian Radio, which is the second largest radio

687
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,760
station in the Christian radio station of the nation. And

688
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,519
he then went on to be the main driving DJ

689
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,599
for k Love Christian Radio National. Is that crazy? From

690
00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:43,480
my little church in Alaska, in Eagle River, Alaska, from

691
00:38:43,519 --> 00:38:45,360
this little church and we'll praying this, And he goes

692
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,440
ought to do that we captain touch. He was watching

693
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,159
my career unfold. I'm leaving Alaska. I'm now in Tennessee. Well,

694
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:55,159
he then retired from Taylor. This is I mean, this

695
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:58,000
is I'm talking like twenty five years now, and they

696
00:38:58,119 --> 00:39:00,920
decided to open a new podcast passed network and they

697
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,840
were looking for a host, and so they told to Larry.

698
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,440
They said, Larry, you've interviewed everyone who out of all

699
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,960
the people that you've interviewed on pylove, give me a

700
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,360
list of who you think would be a good podcast hosts.

701
00:39:13,159 --> 00:39:16,800
And I didn't know this, but my name was the

702
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,039
first name on the list. And he said, because I

703
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:24,360
know that we've got Maxicato all these other people, but

704
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,559
if you want to reach a new generation of people

705
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,760
who really want to find the Lord who doesn't talk Christians,

706
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,599
who's going to be honest and relatable and funny, this

707
00:39:35,679 --> 00:39:39,800
guy back up I had. After all these years in

708
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,880
the Christian entertainment industry, I got stabbed several times, and

709
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:45,880
I was so discouraged by some of the stuff I

710
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,360
was seeing Christian entertainment that I stepped out of it

711
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,039
six years ago and I decided, you know what, I

712
00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:56,440
just can't do this. It's affecting me. I'm getting jaded.

713
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,320
And I was so innocent, and now I said, expect

714
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,320
everybody has an ulter year motive that they're just do

715
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,679
it in the name of the Lord. But I really

716
00:40:03,679 --> 00:40:06,440
wore a lord. So I just quit. I walked away

717
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,719
and I decided I want to be Jesus right here

718
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,199
in my hometown to the people around me. And I

719
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,000
never left my house. So I started getting involved downtown

720
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:20,119
Sparta and I'm probably happy, but I was really struggling

721
00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:22,039
with depression. I was just really honest. I was really

722
00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:26,000
struggling with depression. That's not a fun thing because you know,

723
00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:28,960
my career was over, so it's funny. You have to

724
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,440
step away from the Christian entertainment sometimes just to get

725
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,199
close to God. And I challenged myself to a six

726
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,960
month season of yes because that would give me six

727
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,199
months of guaranteed living because I was really in a

728
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,360
dark place. I'm going to say yes to things that

729
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,840
I normally would have said no to as long as

730
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,400
it's not against my morals. But if somebody invites me

731
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,480
to dinner, although I'm social awkward and I would I'm

732
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,559
going to go. If somebody as if asking to do

733
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:04,039
something that I normally wouldn't do, like well, kayaking, I've

734
00:41:04,039 --> 00:41:06,719
never kayaked before, I'm gonna go. And I got those

735
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,280
invitations and started doing all this, and my faith was

736
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,079
growing up. He was meeting people I didn't know. It's

737
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:17,119
sharing Jesus with them, And it was the last day

738
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,039
of my season of Yes, the very last day, and

739
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:25,039
this guy, Ronnie Taylor, who worked at the podcast, reached

740
00:41:25,079 --> 00:41:28,440
out and said, we're looking for some new house and

741
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,639
you were suggested to me for possibly doing a podcast.

742
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,880
And I'm like, oh, I don't even know. I don't

743
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,360
listen to podcasts. I don't listen to the radio because

744
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,840
I've got ADHD. I'm very creative. I can't have outside

745
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,719
influence in my brain. I've got a whole circus going

746
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,719
on in my head. I don't have time to be distracted.

747
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,760
And I was like, I don't want to do that.

748
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,480
He was coming from Sacramento to Nashville in a month,

749
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,039
and I would like you to pitching your idea for

750
00:41:57,079 --> 00:42:01,000
a podcast while you're there, if you would. And I

751
00:42:01,079 --> 00:42:04,159
was like, it's the last day. I don't even know

752
00:42:04,199 --> 00:42:07,840
what a podcast is, but okay, that will give me

753
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,039
a month to find out. Why would I Why would

754
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:15,000
he do that? It didn't make sense to me. It's

755
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:19,639
like whatever. So then I listened to my first podcast

756
00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:22,719
and I didn't like them. It's like they would have

757
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,920
an hour long show and they would just talk about

758
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,480
the same thing over and over and over. It was

759
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:31,440
like this little it didn't go anywhere. And their laugh

760
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:34,559
is like you know when a DJ laugh is like, oh,

761
00:42:34,599 --> 00:42:37,719
everything's funny. If that's something, I'm like, no, I'm not

762
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,000
interested in that. Or they were all geared towards one thing,

763
00:42:41,079 --> 00:42:42,880
like oh, we're just going to talk about politics or

764
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,400
another show. We just talk about Hollywood, another show. They're

765
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,239
into one niche and I'm like, no, that will never

766
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,280
work with my ADHD and they'll never go for this.

767
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,840
But this is what I would do. I would create

768
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,639
a show called Sidetracked. And because I work in the

769
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,480
music industry and the film industry have a club industry,

770
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,719
I would want to interview all my friends because then

771
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,320
it's just about promoting Damn. I get to ask the

772
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,280
questions and make them funny one liners. They get to

773
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,920
see all the smart things, and I'll be smart by association.

774
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,519
I went into the office and I was like, they're

775
00:43:12,519 --> 00:43:15,079
gonna say I'm sorry about my one of my six

776
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:17,880
straight dogs that I rescue. I've got six straight dogs,

777
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,199
seven stray cats. People just dump them out here in

778
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:22,599
the woods. I think they talked to each other. They're like, hey,

779
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:26,360
fat guy has food head for the greenhouse. There's like

780
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,559
an underground railroad for petity or show up. I can't

781
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:31,840
see the straight because I see myself at him. I'm like,

782
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,320
I'm here, Daddy wants you, so I go in to

783
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,760
pitch it. I go, Okay, here's your thing. I would

784
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,480
call it a sidetrack because I don't want to be

785
00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:41,320
locked into any one thing. I don't want to be

786
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,440
forced to have to talk about anything I don't want

787
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,599
to talk about. I want to talk about the authentic people.

788
00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:49,840
I left the industry because I got a lot of wounds.

789
00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:52,159
I don't care what the industry has to say anymore.

790
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:54,920
I want God to set up wholly introductions and define

791
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,599
appointmance and lead me to the people that you ask

792
00:43:57,639 --> 00:43:59,400
me to talk to. And that's what I would do.

793
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,039
I'm thinking there, I'm done. He goes, that sounds great, Well,

794
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:06,039
tell me more about this book you did. It must

795
00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:08,400
have been and as I told him, and he goes,

796
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,400
you know what if we did an adaptation of your book,

797
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,320
because most people don't know you, that will serve as

798
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,880
a way for people to get to know you. Because

799
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:24,199
you're blunt, you don't edit yourself. You might come across

800
00:44:24,199 --> 00:44:26,880
the people and whack a doodle. And if we do

801
00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:31,079
your book, I'll get to know you and your heart.

802
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,159
And well, this is the other thing I'm going to interact.

803
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,519
Remember this, when I was living in Alaska and all

804
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:41,000
those crazy things are happening because I don't watch television,

805
00:44:41,159 --> 00:44:44,320
I don't listen to the radio. Whenever these crazy things

806
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,119
would happen every day, I would try to look into

807
00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:52,159
what God was trying to speak to me that day.

808
00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:56,400
There has to be a lesson here somewhere, and so

809
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,800
that's what I would do. That's why at the end

810
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,760
of each chapter there's a spirit tropic that goes with

811
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:07,159
that crazy, adventurous story, because that's my way of sharing it.

812
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,000
So he said an adaptation of a voice in Men,

813
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:13,039
and I was like, that's an audiobook. That's where you

814
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:16,199
read the book. That's an audiobook. That's not a podcast that.

815
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,199
I'm like, no, an audiobook, No, No, that doesn't really

816
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,079
interest me. But I'll think about it. But thank you,

817
00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:26,199
and I left and I'm driving home. I'm thinking, you know,

818
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,760
it would be fun. What do interest me capture my

819
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,920
creativity is if I could adapt that not into a narration,

820
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,119
but into a radio drama and have all of these

821
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,440
actor friends like Katie Lee who plays Connie and Phil

822
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,639
Lawler and Nancy Stafford who is on TV's Matlock, and

823
00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:48,119
Michael Joyner from the Grace Card funniest comedian and my

824
00:45:48,159 --> 00:45:50,159
friend from a point of Grace said if I could

825
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:52,480
get them to play all of the characters that had

826
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,280
their voices, now, that would be fun and I'd be

827
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:01,559
working with my friends because now I have friends. So

828
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:03,519
I called him and I was like, what about this

829
00:46:03,559 --> 00:46:07,360
seems like okay, let's give it a shot. So that's

830
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,960
been called Marshall. It was like, Marshall, I need your help.

831
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,199
I wrote the book with Doug Peterson, but Marshall Younger

832
00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:18,920
is what helped me to adapt it for radio. And

833
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,800
I got to add all sorts of new material that

834
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,960
I didn't before because now I could do whatever I want.

835
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:27,480
Now we're in my room, I don't have to use

836
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,760
the grammar type of stuff. Doug had done that with

837
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,480
the book. Of course, I'm adding more jokes and Marshall's like, okay, yeah,

838
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,679
I already got fourteen jokes on this page. You only

839
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:43,920
need to and he he did. I love him. I

840
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,840
love Marshall Younger. So there and then of mussen men

841
00:46:48,039 --> 00:46:52,360
was done. Jad it was done in five months. This

842
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:57,559
was five years ago. It was done. And there it

843
00:46:57,679 --> 00:47:06,760
sat and sat and sad and sad because I was

844
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,920
not really smart. They were just starting off. And the

845
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,320
Texas s Coore has a great podcast network. They've got

846
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,480
Max and they've got Cantas Cameron Burg who's talking about

847
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:20,599
haw Olujahati. She was one of my first questions. You know,

848
00:47:20,679 --> 00:47:25,320
these are big name people, huge name people who are

849
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,039
wanting to be able to and those took the priority

850
00:47:28,119 --> 00:47:31,039
over work, you get it, because they they've got to

851
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:33,679
use names to get their feet you know what I mean.

852
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,719
They can't say we've got Tory Martin and of Muse

853
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,800
and Menska to go into sidetracked. Well, then over the

854
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,440
course of those years they were no longer interested in sidetracked,

855
00:47:44,159 --> 00:47:48,639
but we had already engineered with their engineer Phil. I

856
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,880
cast it, I got all my actor friends, I chose

857
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,159
the lines, scout the marks directed. It's a completed thing

858
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:56,440
that just sat there. But they weren't interested in Sidetrack

859
00:47:56,519 --> 00:47:59,360
to do more because they've got these big names. And

860
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:04,119
I'm praying and I'm getting discouraged, and you know, we

861
00:48:05,679 --> 00:48:10,280
didn't have a contract, and I don't care. I've now

862
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:15,800
learned a lesson. I don't care how christian an organization is.

863
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,679
There's still business people and lawyers with everything. Never do

864
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:28,920
work first without a contract, because you don't. And I'm

865
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,840
the type of person I don't have lawyers. I don't

866
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,119
have people looking out for my interests. I don't I

867
00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:36,840
do now. A dear friend, Honey Cornball, who were in

868
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,280
South Georgia at the studios, who brought this thing through.

869
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,880
I was like, I can't handle these negotiation with things anymore.

870
00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:44,440
I don't know what to do. I don't understand. But

871
00:48:44,519 --> 00:48:48,519
she took over everything and brought it through, and I

872
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,039
had given up on it. I had, actually, but I'm

873
00:48:51,079 --> 00:48:54,400
still praying every day if I bother because I remember

874
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,519
I'm not in the industry. I'm not being used. This

875
00:48:57,559 --> 00:49:01,599
is my big chance five years ago moo spin And

876
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,599
there's a part of me thinking, oh no, Well, maybe

877
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:08,039
you're protecting the world from me. Lord, Maybe you don't

878
00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:11,599
want to use me as me. Maybe he's funny, use

879
00:49:11,639 --> 00:49:14,199
me as a booten or the fictional characters. I'm never

880
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,760
going to fit into the Christian world. I'm not pretty,

881
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:24,440
I'm not smart, I'm not. I'm not all those I

882
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:30,199
don't have all that. I don't know what he is

883
00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:34,039
for that of a polished Christian, I don't. I stumble,

884
00:49:34,599 --> 00:49:39,800
I bumble. I follow and I learn and I get

885
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,960
back up and I stumble. And I always tell people

886
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,280
I bumbled by way to God. I bumbled my whole

887
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:55,199
way learning lessons. He drew me slowly to himself. So

888
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,000
finally the contract got worked out. I signed it. I

889
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,280
thought they would sign right a. I'm so excited. It

890
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,440
was like two weeks because it's over Christmas break, no answer.

891
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:07,159
I thought, Oh, they might have changed their mind. I

892
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,000
was so hopeful. And then Christmas Eve at four o'clock

893
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,760
and email came in said the contract is fully executed,

894
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:19,440
signed him. It's going to become a real thing. And

895
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,960
so since Christmas Eve to now what I've been waiting

896
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,480
and hope for fires out. And now I thought, oh,

897
00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:30,119
that'll be the end of it. But it's just the beginning,

898
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,800
because you know, they want you to do social media

899
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,559
posts and all this promotional stuff that I'm not good at.

900
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:42,039
That stuff I feel weird talking about. Look at me,

901
00:50:42,199 --> 00:50:43,880
look at it. You know what I mean? You know,

902
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,960
this whole thing is in God's project this whole time.

903
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,159
And just like I challenged him to let me in

904
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,119
third place, if you wanted to use me, I'm like God,

905
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,519
if you want this to be a success, you get

906
00:50:54,519 --> 00:50:58,000
the word out. You did it with your own word,

907
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,280
the Holy Bible. You got your word out. I think

908
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,679
you don't need Twitter, Instagram, Facebook. It did pretty good.

909
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,199
So if this is from you, let a grassroots something

910
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,159
happen and get the word out. Otherwise, don't let anybody

911
00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:16,599
hear it. If I'm going to you know my future,

912
00:51:16,599 --> 00:51:18,840
if I'm going to cause you any embarrassment or anything,

913
00:51:19,039 --> 00:51:22,039
I don't want. I don't want to do that. So

914
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,960
have your will and keep me close. And I don't

915
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,440
want I mean, I don't want to leave my home again.

916
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,800
I left my cabin. I went into the industry. It

917
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,639
ate me up, spit me out. I want to be

918
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,239
used by God. But right here at my own house,

919
00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:39,760
right I have to go to red carpet stuff. I

920
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,800
don't have to do any of that stuff that makes

921
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,280
you feel phony. I don't want to have to deal

922
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,360
with that stuff again. It makes me feel it takes

923
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,920
me away from the Lord. It doesn't bring me closer

924
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,280
to the Lord. It takes me away. And I made

925
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,360
that decision when I was doing comedy shows that're like, oh,

926
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,960
you've got to carry your product to sell to those people.

927
00:51:57,679 --> 00:51:59,519
And they wanted me to carry my first book of

928
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:02,639
Muss and Man. And there's something that happens when you

929
00:52:02,679 --> 00:52:05,480
get off that stage and you're at this book table

930
00:52:05,519 --> 00:52:08,480
and people are just wanting to talk to you and

931
00:52:08,519 --> 00:52:10,519
you've got a pile of books that your business mind

932
00:52:10,519 --> 00:52:12,400
is saying, I've got to sell these books. Oh, stop

933
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:13,880
telling me about your problems. Buy a book. Are you

934
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:14,960
going to buy a book? I'm not If you're not

935
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,920
going to buy a book and move on, I'm like,

936
00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:21,599
I am not carrying any products. That is not what

937
00:52:21,679 --> 00:52:25,079
God has me here for. I'm not carrying one thing

938
00:52:25,119 --> 00:52:29,280
to sell. I'm there for the people. If God has

939
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:30,960
used me to touch their life. I want to make

940
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,599
a personal connection. What I want just with them. And

941
00:52:35,079 --> 00:52:38,920
again that's a freeing thing because you don't have to

942
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,559
worry about anything that's serving the Lord and being obedient.

943
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:46,239
So yeah, I want to do these this is what

944
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,079
I want to do. I want to adapt my books

945
00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:50,639
of comedy sketches. I want to do it with people

946
00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:53,920
that I know. I want to give first time voice

947
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,559
actors a chance and work with them. I want to

948
00:52:56,639 --> 00:52:59,039
build I want to have a legacy to leave. I'm

949
00:52:59,039 --> 00:53:01,719
a diabetic, I just turned sixty two years old, my

950
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,480
hair so longer read. I don't know how long I'm

951
00:53:03,519 --> 00:53:05,800
going to be here. And that depression really scared me.

952
00:53:06,599 --> 00:53:09,559
So by staying busy and investing lives together and building

953
00:53:09,559 --> 00:53:12,239
the kingdom, that gives me a purpose.

954
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, well, and that's what's so beautiful. And I

955
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,360
hadn't actually read the book yet, so I'm experiencing this

956
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,119
content for the first time, listening to this audio version

957
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:27,519
of it, and you know, you you sit there and

958
00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:30,119
you're like, Okay, this is a funny story. You're you're

959
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,280
getting pulled in. There's there's funny things happening. You're chuckling,

960
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,880
and then you know, you get to the to the end,

961
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,639
and then suddenly you're like, oh wow, he's he's pulling

962
00:53:39,679 --> 00:53:43,719
this beautiful truth out of this what some might consider

963
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,719
a little bit bizarre, but it's still mundane life. It's

964
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,000
just things that people face in life. But I love

965
00:53:50,039 --> 00:53:53,039
that you said that earlier, that you try to see

966
00:53:53,079 --> 00:53:55,679
what what what can I learn from this, and I

967
00:53:55,679 --> 00:53:59,440
think that's key. That's so key, trying to face everything

968
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,280
that we go through. It comes our way in life

969
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,679
from day to day. Hey, it may just be a

970
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,920
mundane interaction with somebody at the grocery store or whatever

971
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,320
it might be. Even if it's bizarre, like having a

972
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,679
reindeer in your kitchen, you know, there's something we can

973
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,079
we can glean from that. And so the way you

974
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:22,360
use the humor in such a wonderful way, to the

975
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,719
humor helps people let down their guard, right, and.

976
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,159
Speaker 2: It does, it really does.

977
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: They get pulled into that that story, and then.

978
00:54:29,039 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: People don't mind learning while they're laughing. It doesn't hurt

979
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,280
as much, you know.

980
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And then you bring around these beautiful lessons

981
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,760
at the end of each chapter. And I don't know

982
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,519
if you saw it yet, but I responded to your

983
00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:47,719
email the other day and just like, wow, this is

984
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,400
this is beautiful. It's it's a wonderful example of storytelling

985
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,360
and just just great storytelling. It's it pulls the people

986
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,239
in and then you have this really poignant moment at

987
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,519
the end, and I was tearing up. I'll be honest,

988
00:55:01,519 --> 00:55:04,559
I was tearing up listening to those and it's just

989
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,840
a delightful show. Delightful show.

990
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,119
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thank you so much. You know,

991
00:55:10,159 --> 00:55:13,400
the biggest gamble in that was what we talked about earlier,

992
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,239
making a true emotional connection, making yourself vulnerable. Just tell

993
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,239
it like it is. It makes me look like an idiot.

994
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,960
I know, I know, I live inside of me. I know,

995
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,519
I know. But there's got to be other people like

996
00:55:27,559 --> 00:55:29,639
this too, who think that God can't use them because

997
00:55:29,639 --> 00:55:34,679
they're adhder, because they know they're not shiny people, the

998
00:55:35,159 --> 00:55:38,400
shining stars in the church. There usually people cleaning the

999
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,360
church or working in the nursery, that overlooked people. There's

1000
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:43,920
got to be other people like that, so I want

1001
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,159
to reach them. I don't care about the shiniese. I

1002
00:55:47,199 --> 00:55:50,880
want that the other ones. So yeah, thank you though.

1003
00:55:51,199 --> 00:55:53,679
I love that you said it teered up because that

1004
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,960
means it made a real emotional connection of that's that's

1005
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:56,800
most important to me.

1006
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, well thank you, and audio has that. Of course,

1007
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,920
everybody can go read the book, and I recommend go

1008
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,639
get a copy. I'm going to get one myself. But

1009
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:10,199
just hearing it, there's something so intimate about that situation

1010
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,400
where you're just sitting there listening, even if you're doing

1011
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,440
something else while you're listening to this story and you

1012
00:56:16,039 --> 00:56:19,719
telling this fun story, and it just it just comes

1013
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,039
right right into the heart. And I think it's just

1014
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:27,079
a fantastic way to connect with people. And that's why

1015
00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:31,000
I love audio drama so much. Is it's it's so portable.

1016
00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:32,840
You know, you can take the story with you at

1017
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,599
wherever you go while you're doing something else, but you

1018
00:56:35,639 --> 00:56:38,679
can learn from these stories and be entertained by them

1019
00:56:38,679 --> 00:56:39,400
at the same time.

1020
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 2: It's a win win, And you know, well, I guess

1021
00:56:44,519 --> 00:56:46,519
you still have sound effects and stuff, but it's not

1022
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:50,239
as first of all, whatever you're imagining while you're listening

1023
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,440
this far more beautiful than the camera could ever capture.

1024
00:56:53,039 --> 00:56:55,360
You know. The imagination of radio drama is so much

1025
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,320
more than what they could ever film if it was

1026
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,280
a movie, which is what I love about Odyssey. Are

1027
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:05,880
so dependent on good writing to keep your attention, to

1028
00:57:06,039 --> 00:57:09,480
keep you in the story. You're not depending on visuals.

1029
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,519
You're depending on a good story with sound effects to

1030
00:57:13,639 --> 00:57:18,719
enhands exactly. Yeah, so yeah, I love Admitt Shaughnessy. Marshall

1031
00:57:18,719 --> 00:57:21,679
Younger is my favorite writer, and my favorite favorite writer

1032
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,920
is L m. Montgomery. You see here, I'm giving this

1033
00:57:25,519 --> 00:57:28,360
set of books to a kid that I met over

1034
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,559
at my friend Adam Greg's house, and Adam is the

1035
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:33,960
first ad for the series have chosen and the reason

1036
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,199
Anna green Gables Well and Where the Red Room Closes

1037
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,719
is another favorite book. And this is what Odyssey does too.

1038
00:57:41,119 --> 00:57:48,880
They created for Anna green Gables believable characters Matthew, Marilla, Diana, Gilbert,

1039
00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:52,880
all there on Prince Edward Island and the stories that

1040
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,960
happened made you and it makes you wish that you

1041
00:57:56,079 --> 00:58:00,519
lived in Prince Edward Island and have the friends that has.

1042
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,719
So everything that I write is always set in a community.

1043
00:58:05,039 --> 00:58:08,320
Every movie, everything is packed with individuals that I was

1044
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,239
a friendless person, so I created imaginary friends. I create

1045
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,639
communities of people that I wish I was friends with,

1046
00:58:15,039 --> 00:58:17,599
and hope the audience will feel the same about those things.

1047
00:58:18,119 --> 00:58:20,840
Odyssey does that. It makes you, don't you wish you

1048
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,079
lived at Odyssey? Yeah?

1049
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't you? Yeah, that's writing exactly. Yeah, yeah, well

1050
00:58:28,079 --> 00:58:30,760
you alluded to this earlier. If they don't come across

1051
00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:34,360
as true, genuine, that people aren't going to connect. But

1052
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,119
when those characters are written so well, when you're taking

1053
00:58:37,519 --> 00:58:42,920
inspiration from people in real life, not caricatures. People can

1054
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,519
relate to that, and that is a tool that we

1055
00:58:45,559 --> 00:58:49,679
can use as creatives, as storytellers to then put a

1056
00:58:49,679 --> 00:58:53,239
little bit of truth in there and some biblical principles

1057
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,840
and things like that. And people are learning even while

1058
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,719
they're being entertained, as I said a moment ago. So

1059
00:58:58,800 --> 00:58:59,960
it's beautiful.

1060
00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 2: Learning even while that's a smarter way of saying, laughing

1061
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,239
while they're learning doesn't hurt so much. Learning while they're

1062
00:59:06,239 --> 00:59:08,360
being entertained. I agree. I like that.

1063
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:12,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm going to tell the listeners right now

1064
00:59:12,119 --> 00:59:14,800
in the links to this episode, if you head over

1065
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,400
to the website. The description for this episode is links

1066
00:59:18,519 --> 00:59:22,000
to Tory's website Tory Martin dot com, t O R R.

1067
00:59:22,239 --> 00:59:24,679
Y Martin dot com and link to.

1068
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,719
Speaker 2: By the way that just came about, I've still got

1069
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,079
to add. I mean, there's stuff there, but I want

1070
00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:33,079
to add pictures for the real people. This is the

1071
00:59:33,079 --> 00:59:35,920
other thing. Every story that you hear or read is

1072
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,000
an actual thing. And I would always take pictures of

1073
00:59:39,239 --> 00:59:42,239
mister Brewster and the reindeer. Everything has it happened? All

1074
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,159
those pictures there, but they are going to go on

1075
00:59:44,199 --> 00:59:47,920
the website see see pictures that support chapter one, chapter two. Yeah,

1076
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,880
so it's in the words that that's Tory Martin dot com.

1077
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,599
Speaker 1: That's awesome. So The Brinkman Adventures is an audio drama

1078
00:59:54,719 --> 00:59:58,800
that tells true missionary stories through audio drama. And so

1079
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,840
every single episode they put accompanying photos of the real

1080
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,000
events and stuff like that. So I love it when

1081
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,599
you get that extra behind the scenes material. That's that's

1082
01:00:08,639 --> 01:00:11,159
cool that you're you're gonna do something similar because, like

1083
01:00:11,199 --> 01:00:14,119
I said, as an audio drama nerd, all the behind

1084
01:00:14,119 --> 01:00:17,480
the scenes stuff is so fun for me. And so yeah,

1085
01:00:18,079 --> 01:00:21,719
Tori's website and of course links to the podcast itself

1086
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:22,800
of Moose and min.

1087
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 2: It's on Apple and Spotify and access Moore dot com,

1088
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,880
access more.

1089
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: Dot com exactly. Yep, that is linked up in the

1090
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,159
show notes as well as for the curious people. The

1091
01:00:36,199 --> 01:00:38,280
press release about the show, a little bit of the

1092
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,719
behind the scenes some of the other people involved that

1093
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,239
you can hear I've already heard picked out Katie Lee

1094
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,559
and in the first episode and two or two.

1095
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 2: And Victoria Jackson from Saturday Our Live is in that

1096
01:00:49,039 --> 01:00:51,760
first the ranger. She's the other shopkeeper with Kate.

1097
01:00:51,679 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, okay, that's awesome, and a couple other names that

1098
01:00:55,519 --> 01:00:57,960
our community here will be familiar with. Of course you

1099
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:02,360
mentioned already Phil Lawler, but Garrett Van and Tracy of

1100
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,159
the Witnesses show. Tracy Van Dolder is in there. So

1101
01:01:06,679 --> 01:01:09,960
it's just a fun, delightful show. And as you said,

1102
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,159
it's not exactly the same sort of style as Adventures

1103
01:01:13,199 --> 01:01:17,079
and Odyssey. It's it's different, but it's a sort of

1104
01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:20,280
a hybrid audio drama and audiobook, which is fun. And

1105
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,519
so we talk about those kinds of productions here on

1106
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:25,920
the show as well. So I'm excited. I'm excited for you.

1107
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,280
I'm excited for the listeners to be able to experience

1108
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,039
this show as well. And I'm having a great time

1109
01:01:31,079 --> 01:01:33,320
with it. And you know, I just want to say

1110
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,519
thank you for for well, for one being so friendly

1111
01:01:37,559 --> 01:01:39,639
to me at the one Grand Party. It was great

1112
01:01:39,679 --> 01:01:41,320
to meet you, and then thankful you were.

1113
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:45,519
Speaker 2: Friendly to me. Everybody was clamoring after you. I'm just

1114
01:01:45,679 --> 01:01:51,000
standing there. That was crazy getting to meet you. Yeah,

1115
01:01:51,639 --> 01:01:53,400
an honor to have met you that, it's an honor

1116
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,679
to get to know you now. And I really I'll

1117
01:01:57,679 --> 01:02:00,400
tell you everybody who knows me knows and every diference

1118
01:02:00,559 --> 01:02:02,440
what I pray. Actually, Father God, I asked you today

1119
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,239
to guide my steps and direct my path, put people

1120
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,239
in front of me who I can help and who

1121
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,599
can help me, and in that order others. First I

1122
01:02:10,639 --> 01:02:13,320
surrendered my steps to you and asked you to fill

1123
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,960
your agenda through me in Jesus name, and then you go.

1124
01:02:17,079 --> 01:02:20,639
And it's just serendipity. So meeting you serendipity. I believe

1125
01:02:20,639 --> 01:02:23,880
this is God led this conversation. You're the only person

1126
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,159
who's reached out about these men. You're it. This is

1127
01:02:27,159 --> 01:02:30,199
my first interview. Wow, this is it. I don't even

1128
01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:33,559
know if there's gonna be anything else, but thank you

1129
01:02:34,079 --> 01:02:36,599
for extending that invitation. When I got that in my email,

1130
01:02:36,639 --> 01:02:40,719
I was like, oh wow, and it's the guy from

1131
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:45,760
the doors at the Adventure's a lot of the important

1132
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,159
guy who was talking to you. You're a really popular man.

1133
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,320
Oh well, I was like, is he a celebrity? What's

1134
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,440
going on? No?

1135
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,519
Speaker 1: Not quite, not quite, but.

1136
01:02:58,679 --> 01:03:00,199
Speaker 2: Well you have a lot of people who love you.

1137
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: I am so blessed. Yes, this community, I said it

1138
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:09,400
to you before we started recording. There's just they've become friends.

1139
01:03:10,159 --> 01:03:13,599
Many of these people that I've enjoyed their work for

1140
01:03:13,679 --> 01:03:17,800
so long, they've become friends and almost like a second

1141
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:22,159
family to me. And so I'm very appreciative of everybody

1142
01:03:22,159 --> 01:03:24,920
in this space. And now I can count you among those.

1143
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,199
Now that we've met and we've connected, and that you've

1144
01:03:28,199 --> 01:03:31,320
taken time this evening to come on the podcast is

1145
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,920
a privilege, and I just want to say thank you

1146
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:34,239
for that.

1147
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. Hey. I want to say one more

1148
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,719
thing that you your audience might find interesting. Why did

1149
01:03:39,719 --> 01:03:42,679
I make WoT a postman? Oh, I'll tell you why.

1150
01:03:43,679 --> 01:03:45,679
Because I had to go down to the post office

1151
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,800
once a week to get my mail, and that would

1152
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,000
be the only time that I would interact. I would

1153
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,039
talk to the people in the post office, the mailman

1154
01:03:53,119 --> 01:03:56,159
all the time. Any good adventures, anything good? Because I

1155
01:03:56,239 --> 01:03:58,760
went to we had a walmart and a grid. At

1156
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,960
first came in. I tried talking with the people reader,

1157
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,039
but then he thought I was taking up too much

1158
01:04:04,039 --> 01:04:07,119
of his time and was offering people grocery cars. She's like,

1159
01:04:07,119 --> 01:04:09,239
that's my job. We're in a tugget wer over a

1160
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,480
cart to give it a stranger. I'm just looking for friends.

1161
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,719
So the post office, became friends with them, and I thought, man,

1162
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,559
if I could, I didn't have to treash through nine

1163
01:04:18,599 --> 01:04:21,400
feet of snow and sub zero temperatures. I would want

1164
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,039
to be a mailman, to say, you could meet everybody

1165
01:04:24,159 --> 01:04:27,639
in your whole city. You could find out what's going on.

1166
01:04:28,119 --> 01:04:32,440
You could have tons of friends right there in your mirror. Yeah,

1167
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,039
that's what I would. I want him to be a mailman. Mmm.

1168
01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:36,519
So that's that cool.

1169
01:04:37,239 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: Well here's a little bit of a tangent then too.

1170
01:04:40,519 --> 01:04:44,239
When I was growing up, my dad was a subcontractor

1171
01:04:44,239 --> 01:04:47,519
for the Postal Service and we did a I helped

1172
01:04:47,559 --> 01:04:50,719
him do a rural mail route. So we would go

1173
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,679
to the big post office in the city, pick up

1174
01:04:53,679 --> 01:04:56,440
all the bags of mail to the little towns out

1175
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,559
in the in the rural areas early in the morning,

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and we drive it up to those small post offices

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and then they would take those and deliver it out.

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And then we'd also pick up the ones from the

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mail boxes on the side of the road there, those

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big blue bins and unlock them, take those bags down

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and take them back down to the large post office

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in the city. So I've never talked about that on

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this show. In the nearly fifteen years.

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Speaker 2: See we're kindred spirits as and would say two redheaded

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postal workers.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you, thank you, thank you well huge thanks

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again to Tory Martin for coming on the show. What

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a delightful conversation. I hope you will go and check

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out his new show. All of the links to everything

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