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<v Speaker 1>From Workhouse Connect and aj Benza fame. He'd liked to

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<v Speaker 1>be walked on a leash and play really dirty, kinky

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<v Speaker 1>sex games. Is uh the guy put the cock in

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<v Speaker 1>the peacock network. Okay, bitch, Hey, everybody aj Benzi here

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<v Speaker 1>with fame, is it? Bitch? This is your daily Unfiltered

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<v Speaker 1>podcast for December sixth, twenty twenty four. Sorry about yesterday, gang,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get into the whole luggage, airport mishap, what have you.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course it happens to me, you know, it just

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<v Speaker 1>everything worked out. But you know, just when I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to be a nice, smooth day, bang, nope,

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<v Speaker 1>God said, nope. Hey, just a minute, I got some

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<v Speaker 1>interesting stuff to put you through today, to see how

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<v Speaker 1>you get through it. Anyhow, weekends upon us. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of you would decorate in the tree. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was out of town in Vegas, the kids, uh

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<v Speaker 1>said Dad, I want to put the tree up. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in the closet. They couldn't find it because they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't move the coats out of the way. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't get mad because I've been I'm the same

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<v Speaker 1>way with a lot of things. I'm looking for something

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<v Speaker 1>Where did you put the way I leave on? Where's

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<v Speaker 1>my keys? Did you see my sneakers? It's we're all

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<v Speaker 1>the same, we just don't look as hard as we could.

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<v Speaker 1>So the kids put the tree up. I come home,

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<v Speaker 1>trees up looking good. No lights are left on, the

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<v Speaker 1>heat was off. You know. The kitchen was clean, just

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<v Speaker 1>as I told them to leave it when I got back.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel good. I got some lights and Christmas bulls.

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<v Speaker 1>We got stuff in storage? Can I tell you I

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<v Speaker 1>just get I don't want to. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go to storage. I already got a smaller unit that's

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<v Speaker 1>only two hundred a month, not like the nine hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a month nott I was paying for all the bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>So I transferred three quarters of stuff from the expensive

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<v Speaker 1>unit into the smaller unit. And that'll be great to

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<v Speaker 1>not pay that nuts every month. But I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like going back there. I don't like storage. Just it's

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<v Speaker 1>like going back to all memories, some of which are

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<v Speaker 1>very bad, and or just I don't need the memory,

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<v Speaker 1>Like why am I looking at roxy shoes when she

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<v Speaker 1>was seven years old? What are we keeping these for?

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<v Speaker 1>The other one? A little bit of a hoarder when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to keeping shit. I understand pictures certain outfits,

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<v Speaker 1>but once you know there's not gonna be another baby,

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<v Speaker 1>and once you know, you can't always think I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give this outfit to my son's next child. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>how many things are we gonna keep? You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? It's just too much. So when I go

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<v Speaker 1>to storage, I get like, ugh, I don't like, I

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<v Speaker 1>get and throw it out mode. I just do you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, I just you know, Like, we have an

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<v Speaker 1>air mattress here. So when I first got here, before

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<v Speaker 1>things were set up, I put an air mattress down,

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<v Speaker 1>rocked out his mattress. So for a night I slept

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<v Speaker 1>on air mattress. He slept on his mattress and the

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<v Speaker 1>air mattress. By the time I was waking up, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like part of my body was on the wooden floor,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like there was leaking air

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<v Speaker 1>and through the night if you roll over, twist and turn.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically I was sleeping on a bunch of plastic. So

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I'm throwing this out. I don't want Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a leaky air mattress. I'm never gonna fix it.

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<v Speaker 1>Things that I'm never gonna repair, one of which is

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<v Speaker 1>a leaky air match. I wouldn't repair a leaky boat

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I'd get rid of that. Anyhow, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>a good move. I don't mean to dump all these

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<v Speaker 1>problems on you people. Let's talk about something that's on

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<v Speaker 1>the minds of a lot of people in America. This

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<v Speaker 1>United Healthcare executive being shot in Manhattan. No one at

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<v Speaker 1>this point really knows the motive. I know you guys

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<v Speaker 1>put this on the podcast Obsess page, but I was

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<v Speaker 1>blocked from that page until Thursday because of the picture

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<v Speaker 1>I put up of Roxy and Rocco running around the

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<v Speaker 1>lawn in a bikini and a diaper. I was canceled

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<v Speaker 1>from Facebook for a week, so I couldn't comment. But

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you the guy that killed Brian Thompson,

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<v Speaker 1>this big CEO. Look, I'm not going to be shocked

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<v Speaker 1>if this guy, you know, was somebody in his family

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<v Speaker 1>was denied medical coverage, you know what I mean? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who there was no money coming in for coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to spend all their money. Maybe they went

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<v Speaker 1>bankrupt because this company probably failed to cover a serious illness,

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<v Speaker 1>as many many healthcare companies do. I think there's I

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<v Speaker 1>think the ratio is one in seven claims for treatment

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<v Speaker 1>don't go through. Is that right? They fail to cover?

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's terrible, that's really that's I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we've all been with people who are dying, and many

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<v Speaker 1>of you have insurance, some don't. Some insurance's lapse at times.

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<v Speaker 1>That's happened to me when I had Screen Actors Guild insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great insurance, it's it's wonderful, But you know Screen

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<v Speaker 1>Actors Guild. When it comes to insurance, you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>make a certain amount of money each quarter of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you know, you didn't do a movie or so,

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<v Speaker 1>and your residuals are getting smaller, if you don't meet

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<v Speaker 1>the criteria amount of money for one quarter of a year,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll dump your insurance. So you know, you're not really

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about it. That's why a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 1>are in the business will contact friends and go, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't care if you put me on

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<v Speaker 1>the show for two days, I need my insurance coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna lapse. I'm gonna lose coverage. And a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of older people get in movies like that because they

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<v Speaker 1>need a favor. You can't asker that favor when you're

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thirty five. It's a little ridiculous, but it happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Insurance's laps and you get stuck with a big fucking bill.

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<v Speaker 1>And two hundred million Americans rely on private health insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes they become very, very seriously ill, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>left with medical bills that are destroying them. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>got any the best treatment. And I read someplace that

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<v Speaker 1>people who have really really high medical bills. Forty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of bankruptcies are due to extremely high medical bills. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there are people out there who listen. They

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<v Speaker 1>want to settle that squabble pretty quick. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>there there are There are six major insurance companies. Anthem Signa,

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<v Speaker 1>United Health is one of the biggest. I think, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it is the biggest. But these these companies have

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<v Speaker 1>like trillions of dollars, you know, and and sometimes they

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<v Speaker 1>well I don't to tell you, guys know what insurance

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<v Speaker 1>companies can do. I'm sure you've had experience with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying the killer was certainly okay with killing Thompson,

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<v Speaker 1>but these healthcare companies, I could see people getting their

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<v Speaker 1>anger up and doing something that they normally wouldn't do.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll tell you something right now, Obviously it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a professional hit. The guy shot him in the back

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<v Speaker 1>and the caf the gun malfunction. No, the guy was

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<v Speaker 1>not a professional. He was an amateur hired to do

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<v Speaker 1>this perhaps, or just somebody on his own who thought

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<v Speaker 1>I could skirt all these laws. I could find this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I know where is gonna be. He's getting deposed in

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<v Speaker 1>this building at this hour. I'm gonna wait and shoot

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<v Speaker 1>him first. I'm gonna go Starbuck and have a cup

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<v Speaker 1>of coffee. What's really scary about the world right now?

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<v Speaker 1>There are cameras everywhere. You're never ever gonna commit the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect crime anymore. Just with people's ring doorbells in the suburbs,

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<v Speaker 1>it's impossible. People see everything. They're a camera everywhere. So

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<v Speaker 1>thinking you can have a couple, I could have a

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<v Speaker 1>latte before a murder is a bad idea either way.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I feel. I'm telling you. I listened. I

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<v Speaker 1>read what his wife said right after the murder, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she was like, yeah, there were threats, there

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<v Speaker 1>were definitely threats, but she didn't know nothing about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she was like, I have to tend to

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<v Speaker 1>my children. They just don't even know what happened. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>something's off with this, something's off with the wife. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's my gut, it's my gut. I could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>My gut tells me either the wife had something to

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<v Speaker 1>do with the murder or she knew just tad just

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<v Speaker 1>what a bad predicament her husband was in. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think this is like, oh, I had no idea, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think she knows exactly what the threats were and

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<v Speaker 1>who they came from. She does a lot more than

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<v Speaker 1>what she's saying. But in my gut, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>she's the one who hired the hit man. It's possible

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<v Speaker 1>some way. In my gut, I feel she has some

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge about this. We will see. Now let me clue

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<v Speaker 1>you in on the airport drama from Vegas to bird Bank.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I had a chaotic uber ride, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I go down to the lower level of Aria, where

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<v Speaker 1>I always going to get an uber. And for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>because casinos are so close together, they think if you're

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<v Speaker 1>down at Aria, they'll go, oh, we're gonna pick you

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<v Speaker 1>up at the whatever. The hotel is called Vrana of Rada.

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<v Speaker 1>I forget vr something. I always see it at the

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<v Speaker 1>window and you go, no, I'm not at that. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a right to uber go No, I'm at Aria. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>are your main entrance? No, I'm at Aria lower level.

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<v Speaker 1>That takes a while. Then it's like, oh, we're eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred feet away. Then we're two miles away, then areo

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<v Speaker 1>point three miles away. Then it's like we're getting a

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<v Speaker 1>new car. I don't I cancel the ride. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>not canceling. I said, fuck it, I got time. I

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<v Speaker 1>always get to the airport. I'll wait. Big black guy

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<v Speaker 1>shows up in a big black truck. All right, nice

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<v Speaker 1>aj Yeah, man, Okay, I get in the car, throw

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<v Speaker 1>the luggage down. I shut the door. The guy turns

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<v Speaker 1>me and goes, okay, man, you didn't have to slam

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<v Speaker 1>my door. I said, slam your door, bro, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I just shut the door. I'm sorry, No, man, you

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<v Speaker 1>slammed it. Hey man, I'm listen. Let's not argue about this, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>Look it's a big truck. I got a big car

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<v Speaker 1>at home. I just shut the door. Man. Someone one

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<v Speaker 1>time shut my door on the window came off the

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<v Speaker 1>track and busted. All right, you know what, you because

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<v Speaker 1>of your job, you win, your door must open a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred times a day. Maybe this isn't your line of work.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, Man, I'm pulling over. Do it? Please?

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<v Speaker 1>Just let's just stop. Come on, you're in a bad mood.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be Let's just come on. Let's just move

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<v Speaker 1>on now. I'm telling you, man, all right, look, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna fight bro the next red light. Telling you, man,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know you gotta be careful, I said, look

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<v Speaker 1>to stop fucking lectric me about your car door. You're

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<v Speaker 1>an uber driver. People are gonna close your car door

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred times. You know what, man, I'll pull over.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go fuck yourself. Okay, pull over. Make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>give me a bad review because I'm gonna rip your

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<v Speaker 1>ass apart of my review. Boom boom, fuck you, fuck

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<v Speaker 1>you amount of the car. Now. I'm in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the strip in Las Vegas. An Asian guy in

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<v Speaker 1>another black truck sees me. What happened? You need ride? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to the airport. You're not uber? No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I take you? How much? Thirty dollars? All right? Uber

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty two. Yeah, let's go. Nice guy, Nice Asian

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<v Speaker 1>yang of life. Okay. I get to the airport, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Very delicately. I'm like, I look, the guys thinks he's

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<v Speaker 1>person next to me, Well, that's just my feeling that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>agenda was an issue? He says, Is it that obvious? Said,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, right, when did you know? He goes, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>with a beautiful white handbit. I'm like, wow, well that's

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<v Speaker 1>I said. One of my bosses as a producer, knew

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a sexual thing, even at that age.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, oh, honey, I know. I was like, okay, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>to go through life like this. I know it's a hassle,

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<v Speaker 1>so I have a good conversation. Suddenly he goes, I

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<v Speaker 1>smell exhaust what I smell it, I said, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>smell it. What do you? I said, no, I have

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a great nose, but I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>you're just worried about flying. I do have some anxiety. Okay, now,

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<v Speaker 1>rate of fly. We're taxiing on the runway, picking up speed.

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<v Speaker 1>This is when I take the crucifix on my neck

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<v Speaker 1>and I do the I make the cross four times.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to do it four times and kiss it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then do it four more times because of forty

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<v Speaker 1>four and then until the plane lifts off, I keep

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<v Speaker 1>the cross holding in my teeth. It's ridiculous, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>but so far I haven't died in the plane crash.

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<v Speaker 1>We're flying down the runway. I make the four cross,

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<v Speaker 1>I make the eight crosses, and without instead of taking

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<v Speaker 1>off or lifting off, the plane, the pilot hits the

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<v Speaker 1>brakes I mean hard, like when you have to hold

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<v Speaker 1>in the over overhead bins like crazy. Hit the brakes

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<v Speaker 1>and the plane, you know, levels off and he goes, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>there's your captain. We got to go back to the gate.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a situation here in the cockpit. Something needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be looked at. We're gonna have to call maintenance,

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<v Speaker 1>to see what's going on. Now. I'm petrified. And this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>this tran he's going. I knew it. I knew it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an exhaust problem, said Jesus Christ. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>stop talking about it. He goes, I'm getting off this plane.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, they're not going to get you off the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>But they did pull into the gate all right, and

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<v Speaker 1>they had to have maintenance come on the plane, so

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<v Speaker 1>theoretically the guy could leave. I'm getting off. He gets

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<v Speaker 1>up with his handbag. Was nice to chat with you.

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<v Speaker 1>He does up the out sideways like he did before.

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<v Speaker 1>He talks to this, do this whatever, whatever. They let

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<v Speaker 1>him leave. I'm going. Should I leave? Oh? Fuck, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't leave. I checked a bag. I never checked a bag.

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<v Speaker 1>Rarely do I check a bag, but I checked it

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<v Speaker 1>because I had I bought three bottles of beautiful shower

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<v Speaker 1>gel that the Aria has, and I love these shower

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<v Speaker 1>jels and I'm like, the last time I bought them

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<v Speaker 1>on my trip to Vegas, I took them on my

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<v Speaker 1>personal luggage, and they took them at TSA and just

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<v Speaker 1>threw them in the go garbage. I'm like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, why don't you keep me? Because I can't

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<v Speaker 1>keep I lose my job. He goes, I got to

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<v Speaker 1>check those candles too, I said, the candles are fine.

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<v Speaker 1>The candles. He goes, You know, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>keep these things, you should always pack a bag, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>check a bag this time. I said, okay, I got

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<v Speaker 1>three friggin shower gels that I love. I'll check the bag.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only a forty five minute flight. It's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get lost. I check it. All my shit's in there

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<v Speaker 1>except my laptop. The laptop I put in my bag

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<v Speaker 1>that I was holding as I walked up to the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>But the headset and the microphone they're in the luggage.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the burdbank. Where's my luggage. Everybody's getting their

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<v Speaker 1>shit and leaving that horrible feeling, you know, Oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the worst feeling. But let me go back for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I finished the luggage talk, the guy gets off

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<v Speaker 1>the plane and you know when I was at the

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<v Speaker 1>airport earlier that day. I'm sitting down, I get a

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<v Speaker 1>moment someone I flaw. You guys know that. I always

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<v Speaker 1>feel like when you're in an airplane, you're closer to

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<v Speaker 1>Heaven than when you're just down here. You're at least

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<v Speaker 1>thirty forty thousand feet closer to heaven, if there is

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<v Speaker 1>such a thing. And I get very emotional thinking I'm

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<v Speaker 1>close to people who are no longer hear who I miss,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean, I wake up during the morning of

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<v Speaker 1>my flight and I get emotional. My eyes fill up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ridiculous. I know it's stupid, but that's me. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at the airport, and you know, me and the

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend we talk. We're not together together, but we talk.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's something about not having someone you know is

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<v Speaker 1>them while you're at the airport. To me, the airport

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<v Speaker 1>was always a place where you either you text your

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<v Speaker 1>wife or your girlfriend or your kids, whatever you do.

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<v Speaker 1>But outside of that, I'm looking going this really sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm getting on this plane. No one knows the

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<v Speaker 1>flight number, no one knows the time I'm leaving. Blah,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah. And it got me like, well, many people go,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a flight age, it's this freaking bus trip

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<v Speaker 1>from Vegas to can You'll be fine. But now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting sad, like I don't have anybody to text. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to get some sympathy. I know it's ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 1>but I text Rosalie. We started talk and I told

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<v Speaker 1>her about the plane and I did text the Andrea

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<v Speaker 1>and tell her, and I told my kids I might

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<v Speaker 1>be late, blah blah blah. But I you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just said, something feels off. And don't you think there's

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<v Speaker 1>something about letting people know you're right when you land

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<v Speaker 1>or here's the flight number. I'm on. I know, if

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<v Speaker 1>your a husband or a wife, if you're married or

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<v Speaker 1>a long term relationship, you always I would think, tell

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<v Speaker 1>the person you love when you're leaving, what the number

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<v Speaker 1>of the flight is, when you're gonna arrive whatever. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Joan Rivers once told me we had dinner

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<v Speaker 1>at her apartment at the start of my career because,

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<v Speaker 1>as I told you, she really got behind me and

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<v Speaker 1>believed in me. And I told you she stopped this

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving dinner she had for a lot of people thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago or so, and she told the people in

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<v Speaker 1>the room, this kid, and she pointed to me, this

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<v Speaker 1>kid's going places all of you. When he calls you,

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<v Speaker 1>you take his call. He's going to be something. He's

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<v Speaker 1>going to take this city by storm. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't believe I was even there hearing it, let alone

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<v Speaker 1>living it. But she and I got really close after

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<v Speaker 1>I went on a talk show because Linda Stacey, my boss,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to do TV, and at the time journalists

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<v Speaker 1>were doing hard copy, inside edition, all those shows Heraldo,

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<v Speaker 1>you name it, Bill, O'Reilly. We did it. We got

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<v Speaker 1>paid good money. It was five hundred bucks for a camera.

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<v Speaker 1>Could have walk in a guy with a light, someone

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<v Speaker 1>holds a camera and a producer fifteen twenty minutes, you

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<v Speaker 1>talk five hundred bucks. Boom. It was so easy. What

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<v Speaker 1>a sid income that was for years because the nineties

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<v Speaker 1>and the tabloid wars and then the stories and the

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<v Speaker 1>scandals were just endless. Linda didn't want to do TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I got the feeling having watched her do TV, because

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<v Speaker 1>they do it in our newsroom. She didn't. She wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really good at it. She didn't seem she didn't seem real,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hate saying it because I love her. But

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<v Speaker 1>Joan Rivers invited to do one of her gossip shows

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<v Speaker 1>every Friday, and Linda turned her down. She said, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm not gonna do. You do Joan. I go. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd not done TV. The only thing I've done on

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<v Speaker 1>TV was that gambling show Football forecast in like eight,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty eight, right, and now she's telling me go

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<v Speaker 1>on Joan Rivers talk show and bring her three or

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<v Speaker 1>four items of gossip. She'll love you. And I knew,

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<v Speaker 1>holy shit, this is Joan Rivers, this is Johnny Carson

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<v Speaker 1>sometime fill in the host of the Tonight Show. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course I'm gonna go. You bet your ass I'll go.

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<v Speaker 1>So I do the show and during a commercial break,

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<v Speaker 1>I had this picture of my three Yorkies when I

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<v Speaker 1>Cindy Adams had a Yorkie. I was a Yorkie nut

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that would make us close. I showed her

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<v Speaker 1>she went, oh my god, what beauty is You know?

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<v Speaker 1>We just hit it all so she befriends me, and

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<v Speaker 1>she kept using me every Friday on her Gossip Friday show.

410
00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:26.799
<v Speaker 1>So we bonded and we're at this dinner one night

411
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<v Speaker 1>and she brings up her ex, her husband, Edgar, who died,

412
00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:34.839
<v Speaker 1>who committed suicide because he felt it was his fault

413
00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:38.240
<v Speaker 1>that Jones' career took a beating because she accepted the

414
00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:42.160
<v Speaker 1>late night talk show on Fox, and Johnny Carson was offended,

415
00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:45.079
<v Speaker 1>never had a back on his show, stopped talking to her.

416
00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Real catty shit. But she told me that when Edgar

417
00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:51.359
<v Speaker 1>killed himself out of what he felt he did to

418
00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:53.839
<v Speaker 1>her career, she said, you know what I really missed.

419
00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Don't let anybody tell you you missed the sex. That's bullshit.

420
00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I missed coming home and talking to my closest friend.

421
00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I miss coming home from a dinner party and saying,

422
00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:07.319
<v Speaker 1>can we talk about what that bitch was wearing? What

423
00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:11.000
<v Speaker 1>she won with those heels? I mean, come on, and

424
00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there going Joan Rivers just said to me,

425
00:23:13.319 --> 00:23:17.519
<v Speaker 1>can we talk? And I'm here inside this luxurious apartment

426
00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:20.920
<v Speaker 1>eating off of China Park. Have you It was surreal,

427
00:23:21.799 --> 00:23:25.079
<v Speaker 1>but I understand what she meant. You live long enough

428
00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:28.039
<v Speaker 1>you go through a number of busted up romances. And

429
00:23:28.079 --> 00:23:31.400
<v Speaker 1>suddenly I could completely understand what she meant by that,

430
00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:34.559
<v Speaker 1>and she began to cry and I touched her back,

431
00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:38.400
<v Speaker 1>and it was like an outer body thing. I can't believe.

432
00:23:38.599 --> 00:23:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen her, and I'd sull of them. And

433
00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I was a kid with my parents. It didn't make

434
00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:46.720
<v Speaker 1>sense to me. But I'll tell you, Hollywood is filled

435
00:23:46.759 --> 00:23:50.119
<v Speaker 1>with people who will step on you, who will kick

436
00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:53.559
<v Speaker 1>you down the ladder, you know what I mean, if

437
00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:56.200
<v Speaker 1>they have a chance to deny your dreams, they will.

438
00:23:57.200 --> 00:23:59.559
<v Speaker 1>But there are also many people in this town who

439
00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:02.279
<v Speaker 1>extend the hand and pull you up the ladder. And

440
00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Joan Rivers was you know, she was one of the

441
00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:06.720
<v Speaker 1>ones who pulled me up, and I'll always love her

442
00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:11.400
<v Speaker 1>for that. Anyhow, back to the plane, everything's good. Plane

443
00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:15.599
<v Speaker 1>takes off and it lands fine. I was anxious, but

444
00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:18.640
<v Speaker 1>it was all good. As I'm leaving the flight, the

445
00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:21.279
<v Speaker 1>stewardess is saying bye bye, bye bye, and one of

446
00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:24.440
<v Speaker 1>them looked like a little bit like Ariana Grande, not

447
00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:28.119
<v Speaker 1>really but almost. You know, she had glasses a little

448
00:24:28.119 --> 00:24:32.640
<v Speaker 1>bit like Ariana. I walk by and I go Ariana Grande.

449
00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I know you've heard that before. She says, I'll take it.

450
00:24:35.319 --> 00:24:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll take it, thanks, AJ And I go wait, I said,

451
00:24:39.319 --> 00:24:40.839
<v Speaker 1>you know me? How do you know me? I don't

452
00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:43.240
<v Speaker 1>know you, she says, I listened to your show. Silly,

453
00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:45.559
<v Speaker 1>I had no idea. She didn't say it in the

454
00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:54.480
<v Speaker 1>whole flight. So strange fun. But oh, speaking of Ariana Grande,

455
00:24:54.519 --> 00:24:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, did you hear one of those horrifying

456
00:24:58.759 --> 00:25:02.880
<v Speaker 1>interviews she and Cynthia Arrivo are doing for Wicked. I

457
00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:05.319
<v Speaker 1>can't look. I've already told you I'm over it, and

458
00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:07.240
<v Speaker 1>I think more most of us are. We've seen the

459
00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:10.720
<v Speaker 1>picture of how thin they are, and in Masha, these

460
00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:13.039
<v Speaker 1>two women are from just a year or two ago.

461
00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:18.480
<v Speaker 1>It's disgusting. They both look like they're in Auschwitz. I'm

462
00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:21.279
<v Speaker 1>sorry not to bring up a horrible situation, but that's

463
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:28.400
<v Speaker 1>what they look like. Apparently, Ariana Grande thinks all of

464
00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:31.519
<v Speaker 1>the references to the word queer in The Wizard of

465
00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:38.559
<v Speaker 1>Ours means that everybody loved the lgbt qia plus password

466
00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:43.400
<v Speaker 1>wy fi whatever the fuck, No, it doesn't, asshole. I

467
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:46.599
<v Speaker 1>know you so intelligent, Arianna. But the book was written

468
00:25:46.599 --> 00:25:50.440
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen hundred and back then queer meant strange, just

469
00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:54.559
<v Speaker 1>like back then fags meant cigarettes. This woman is thirty

470
00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>one years old and has no idea the word queer

471
00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:03.279
<v Speaker 1>meant strange back then stupid. She's sitting there doing publicity

472
00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:08.200
<v Speaker 1>with her friend, and the way she talks. Oh, it's

473
00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:11.559
<v Speaker 1>such a queer world, and everybody loves queers. I love

474
00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:14.680
<v Speaker 1>all my queer friends. She's just shut up, just shut up,

475
00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:18.839
<v Speaker 1>just bending over backwards, loving all your queer friends. Why

476
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:23.119
<v Speaker 1>highlight them? I just people are trying to be so

477
00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:27.599
<v Speaker 1>good and so perfectly politically correct and woke. When is

478
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:29.799
<v Speaker 1>she gonna wake up? This is the girl who licked

479
00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:34.319
<v Speaker 1>the donut several years ago, and you know what, I

480
00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:37.839
<v Speaker 1>like her. She's funny, but she's an asshole. By the way.

481
00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:40.599
<v Speaker 1>Frank Baum, who wrote The Wizard of Walls in nineteen hundred,

482
00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:45.400
<v Speaker 1>you know he wrote thirteen sequels in nineteen years. You

483
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:47.359
<v Speaker 1>know how hard it is to write thirteen books in

484
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:49.559
<v Speaker 1>nineteen years. That's like, as soon as you finished one,

485
00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:53.119
<v Speaker 1>you start the next one immediately. Jesus, But what an idiot.

486
00:26:54.599 --> 00:26:58.400
<v Speaker 1>The last month or so, I know has shown America

487
00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:02.200
<v Speaker 1>that celebrities do not have the answer to things. Stop

488
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:07.000
<v Speaker 1>listening to them and believing what they say. Anyhow, luggage

489
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>isn't there. I'm going. What you know, I was supposed

490
00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:14.200
<v Speaker 1>to pick up Rocco from basketball. Now I can't do it.

491
00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I text him, I call Southwest. Oh, it never left

492
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas. They tell me it'll be there the last

493
00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:25.400
<v Speaker 1>flight out. All right, not the worst news, you know.

494
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:28.519
<v Speaker 1>Burnbank Airport's a couple of miles away. Okay, I'll go tonight.

495
00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:32.839
<v Speaker 1>But by the time eleven o'clock roll, I was tired.

496
00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:36.079
<v Speaker 1>I fell asleep. I'm like, I'm not gonna go. I'll go,

497
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:38.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll go in the morning. I drove the

498
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Burnbank Airport this morning. I see the bag there, sitting

499
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>alone in this office. It looked like an orphan. I

500
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:50.480
<v Speaker 1>took it. Everything was there nice. This doesn't even compare

501
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:53.400
<v Speaker 1>to when I wrote the first book, Fame Ain the Bitch.

502
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I was leaving. Where was I I think I was

503
00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:02.359
<v Speaker 1>in California coming back home to New York. And in

504
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:07.079
<v Speaker 1>my luggage I had my laptop my manuscript. That's all

505
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:10.319
<v Speaker 1>there was. The laptop had my book in it, and

506
00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>the manuscript that was printed out was in the laptop.

507
00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:15.160
<v Speaker 1>There was no other way to have it. It was

508
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.839
<v Speaker 1>not a thumb drive because I'm an asshole. And the

509
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>luggage got lost and it went to I think Hawaii.

510
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:24.880
<v Speaker 1>It was insane. It went to Florida. Finally it was

511
00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:29.400
<v Speaker 1>sent back to Newark Airport about four days later, and

512
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I had everything there, but ugh, I don't ever want

513
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:40.279
<v Speaker 1>to check a bag again. Anyhow. I saw Sean Hannity

514
00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:44.559
<v Speaker 1>had Sylvestistlan on his show the other day, and he

515
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:46.880
<v Speaker 1>brought up the story about it when Sly broke up

516
00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:49.559
<v Speaker 1>with Jennifer Flavian when they were dating back in nineteen

517
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:54.599
<v Speaker 1>ninety four with a FedEx letter and Handedy asked Fly

518
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:59.519
<v Speaker 1>who FedEx a breakup letter? And Sly said, a coward?

519
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Does you know? I'm glad he said that. He said,

520
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the most the most intensity of breakup you can get.

521
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:07.079
<v Speaker 1>You can't even say you put it down in words

522
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:08.759
<v Speaker 1>because you don't have the guts to do it face

523
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>to face. I'm glad that story came up, and I'm

524
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>glad Sly said that because I'm the one who broke

525
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:20.119
<v Speaker 1>the story. Now, I remember fulling Jennifer Flavin's modeling agent

526
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:23.759
<v Speaker 1>at her agency, and he was cage. I said, listen,

527
00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:26.519
<v Speaker 1>I forget his name. He said, listen, I know everything.

528
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:29.839
<v Speaker 1>I know why Slide did that. You want to, you know,

529
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>you want Jennifer Flavian to know why, so it's not

530
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:35.240
<v Speaker 1>a mystery. Have her call me. All right, I'm not

531
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:37.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna I'm not gonna say anything bad, but I'm gonna

532
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>write the story. So wouldn't you rather have her talk

533
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to me? Because I'm writing this story either way. So

534
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:45.599
<v Speaker 1>he gets on the phone me and I have this

535
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>conversation with her, and I felt good. I mean, whatever,

536
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>you have a story that nobody else in the country has.

537
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>It feels amazing. And how did I get the story?

538
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I got a lot of my stories because I was

539
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:05.519
<v Speaker 1>fine immersing myself into celebrities lives. Once I got past

540
00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>those velvet ropes, then I really made it my point

541
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:13.359
<v Speaker 1>to get in those tight booths and bankheads and VIP

542
00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:17.799
<v Speaker 1>rooms and all that shit. And you know, I would

543
00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:20.759
<v Speaker 1>stay out till last call and last calls for four

544
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:23.640
<v Speaker 1>four thirty in the morning. I sat down with them,

545
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:26.079
<v Speaker 1>I dated them, I did drugs with them. I did

546
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that until they felt comfortable enough to tell me intimate

547
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>details about themselves and other people. See. Then suddenly I

548
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:37.799
<v Speaker 1>would come to them and say, listen, I heard someone's

549
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:39.799
<v Speaker 1>trying to do this thatt to you x y Z.

550
00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean, Well, this is what's going around.

551
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to write it because I like you.

552
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying it's gonna get written. But I have

553
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the story about let's just say you cheated on so

554
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:52.079
<v Speaker 1>and so. No way, Yeah, it's out there, bro, So

555
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:55.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You know, I'm not gonna write it,

556
00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>but maybe you can give me something else, on somebody else,

557
00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:01.839
<v Speaker 1>and I'll have this story killed. Really yeah, just anything

558
00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:04.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, like what anything, anything about a celebrity, whatever

559
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>the fuck you know about so and so. Just tell

560
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>me they're not gonna find that it's from you, and

561
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:12.240
<v Speaker 1>your story's gonna die with me, all right, okay. And

562
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:15.000
<v Speaker 1>that they would give me shit on other people, even

563
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:20.359
<v Speaker 1>their own friends. That's how dirty and sordid this business was,

564
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>and I think still is. But no one did it

565
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:28.079
<v Speaker 1>like I did it. Nobody. So I knew this because

566
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I hung out with Janis Dickinson a lot back then,

567
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:32.799
<v Speaker 1>and she was as wild, or I was as wild

568
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:34.960
<v Speaker 1>as her. Put it that way. She was a super

569
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>model of the eighties. Well, I was just in college.

570
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:40.799
<v Speaker 1>So Janis was living it up, and you know, it's

571
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>no surprise. She loved getting high, she loved having fun,

572
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>and I took part in that with her. She and

573
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of fun together. This is way

574
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:53.240
<v Speaker 1>before all the crazy botox and facial procedures. Trust me.

575
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:56.759
<v Speaker 1>I also was good friends with her sister, Debbie, so

576
00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.599
<v Speaker 1>I was good with both of them. But I was

577
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:02.720
<v Speaker 1>so con soon with getting the truth that I did

578
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>some things that when I look back, oh my, I

579
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:08.839
<v Speaker 1>shud her. I really do. But you know, those are

580
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:11.960
<v Speaker 1>my war stories, and those are the scars on the

581
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.440
<v Speaker 1>scars on my health, I guess. But I actually began

582
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:18.119
<v Speaker 1>to think about how I used to literally get excited,

583
00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>like not goosebumps, but almost that feeling whenever I knew

584
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I was onto a big story and I could nail

585
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:27.119
<v Speaker 1>it down. And once I knew there was no stopping me,

586
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>forget it. The adrenaline now it was too much. I

587
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:37.119
<v Speaker 1>mean back then, you know, I remember being in bed

588
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:40.119
<v Speaker 1>with a really bad back after my first back surgery,

589
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not allowed to get up. I'm I'm in

590
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.799
<v Speaker 1>bed rest. My wife at the time is crying in

591
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:49.039
<v Speaker 1>the bathtub because she doesn't want to abuse me any longer.

592
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>And she's apparently in love with the English teach or

593
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:55.279
<v Speaker 1>the English teacher the next auto or in school, or

594
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:58.400
<v Speaker 1>falling for him. She's listening to the soundtrack of The

595
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Deer Hunter in the bathtub, crying. My mother's got cancer.

596
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm on my back, can't get up, and I got

597
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>a I was out of my mind. Suddenly I'm watching TV.

598
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:15.519
<v Speaker 1>There's a plane crash. Alvianca out of Columbia crashes and

599
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like forty five minutes away from my house. I

600
00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>get my car. Where you go and you can't leave bed.

601
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go to this plane crash. I had a

602
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:26.079
<v Speaker 1>Toyota Corolla and a Marsda RX seven. I took the

603
00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:29.359
<v Speaker 1>Corolla because it was more comfortable. I fly was up

604
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:33.839
<v Speaker 1>in National County, up in the North North area. And

605
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:36.279
<v Speaker 1>as I get closer I've told you this before, I see,

606
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:40.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, images of a plane crash. As you get

607
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>closer to the site. I couldn't get within maybe a

608
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:47.039
<v Speaker 1>mile of the actual crash. But as I'm getting closer,

609
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:51.039
<v Speaker 1>you see things in trees, sweaters, suitcase parts. You could

610
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:54.960
<v Speaker 1>tell that this fucking plane was hitting trees and stuff

611
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:57.079
<v Speaker 1>and things have falling out of it. It was horrible.

612
00:33:57.799 --> 00:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>It was a horrible story, but I was there. I

613
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<v Speaker 1>got to see it. And then I remember there was

614
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:05.880
<v Speaker 1>another story that blew my mind because I started to

615
00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>feel that I'm one of these people like now we

616
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:13.280
<v Speaker 1>call me Forrest Gump or whatever we call me, you know,

617
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:17.199
<v Speaker 1>like by life, I'm always around these things that occur.

618
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I can connect the dots so easily between me and

619
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:24.280
<v Speaker 1>a scandal or somebody in scandal. And Linda Stacey was

620
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:26.159
<v Speaker 1>just like that. And one day there was a huge

621
00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:28.880
<v Speaker 1>story and I forget where this took place, but somebody

622
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:35.280
<v Speaker 1>was sending letter bombs to people with nails and them

623
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:38.920
<v Speaker 1>and sharp pieces of glass, just awful, and a number

624
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:42.760
<v Speaker 1>of people, I think one or two died, but people

625
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:48.320
<v Speaker 1>got injuries to their face and hands, severe injuries. And

626
00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:50.559
<v Speaker 1>this story broke that this guy was doing this, and

627
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Linda said, oh my god, what I worked for him?

628
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 1>When what? And she told me years ago she had

629
00:34:57.800 --> 00:34:59.920
<v Speaker 1>some kind of job. He was involved in the call.

630
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:02.960
<v Speaker 1>She knew him, she worked with him, so she had

631
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:05.840
<v Speaker 1>the inside track to this guy's life and the story.

632
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.760
<v Speaker 1>And we nailed it from from day one because Linda

633
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:11.840
<v Speaker 1>had that that thing about her that she could always

634
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:16.679
<v Speaker 1>tie herself into some bullshit like I can, and back then,

635
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean so many things in the nineties, Michael Jackson,

636
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Joey buttafuco Amy Fisher, long Al Lolita Menandez Brothers, Tanya Harding, kneecapping,

637
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Nancy Kerrigan, oh j Simpson, of course, Loreena bob At

638
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:35.679
<v Speaker 1>cutting off her husband's dick, Susan Smith drawtled her three kids,

639
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Rodney King, and there were just some smaller ones. Roseenn

640
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Barr singing the National anthem was a big thing. Snead

641
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:45.840
<v Speaker 1>O'Connor ripping up the picture of the Pope on SNL.

642
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Julia Roberts leaving Keith for suddenly at the altar, Millie

643
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:54.559
<v Speaker 1>Vanilli's lip syncing, Marlon Brando's son convicted of man's laughter,

644
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:58.679
<v Speaker 1>Jerry Seinfeld dating a teenager, Woody Allen marrying sun yee

645
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:02.239
<v Speaker 1>peebe Herman jerks off in the theater, Diddy and j

646
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Low and the club shooting Ana the Cole Smith marries

647
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:08.840
<v Speaker 1>the old Man. Mike Tyson bites Evanda holy Fields, ear

648
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you name it. It was the best time to be

649
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:17.639
<v Speaker 1>a gossip columnist. One of the biggest ones, John Benet Ramsey,

650
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:24.119
<v Speaker 1>who killed that little girl the Pedophile's Dream? What do

651
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:30.679
<v Speaker 1>I think? I watched the Netflix Dock last night. I

652
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:33.639
<v Speaker 1>was fall asleep with the goddamn remote in my hand,

653
00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:38.280
<v Speaker 1>but I watched three episodes and I posted a picture

654
00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:40.760
<v Speaker 1>yesterday on the podcast of Says page of my buddy

655
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:44.159
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Dornan, who I call gay Kevin called because he

656
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:50.679
<v Speaker 1>passed away a few years ago, entirely too young. But Kevin,

657
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:55.039
<v Speaker 1>don't take this the wrong way. I've told you the past.

658
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:57.800
<v Speaker 1>We had a sixth sense of human together. We'd make

659
00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>pedophile jokes and just stlew stuff. You have to be there.

660
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:06.039
<v Speaker 1>But he would call me as John Benney. He was

661
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:10.559
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with this case, and he wrote a song about

662
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:12.840
<v Speaker 1>John Bay. He gave it to Richard Belzer to use

663
00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:15.039
<v Speaker 1>it a comedy act because he was friends with Belzer.

664
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:19.239
<v Speaker 1>But I thought about Kevin so much last night watching

665
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:24.039
<v Speaker 1>this documentary. But I'm watching this and I'm like, wow,

666
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I forgot about that. I forgot about this. There's so

667
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:29.039
<v Speaker 1>many things you just think you know, but you forget

668
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:33.519
<v Speaker 1>after all these years. But it's an interesting documentary or

669
00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:37.760
<v Speaker 1>series because initially, just like the Cops in Boulder thought

670
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:43.599
<v Speaker 1>they penneded on the parents immediately, like detectives and investigators

671
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:47.920
<v Speaker 1>walked in. One even said I knew they killed their daughter,

672
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:51.199
<v Speaker 1>like they just had it. They figured they had it

673
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:54.400
<v Speaker 1>figured out, and because of that, they fed the media

674
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:58.960
<v Speaker 1>all these angles. And the documentary is really about how

675
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.320
<v Speaker 1>the ram He's had to fight the media because the

676
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:05.880
<v Speaker 1>detectives and the cops in Boulder were giving the media

677
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:09.559
<v Speaker 1>bullshit stories. And every time you want to say, oh,

678
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:12.079
<v Speaker 1>the father has something to do with it, the mother did,

679
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:16.599
<v Speaker 1>you'll hear John Ramsey tell you the converse theory of

680
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:20.000
<v Speaker 1>what he really said and did that the cops ignored

681
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:23.679
<v Speaker 1>or lied about. It's fascinating in that respect. You could

682
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:28.559
<v Speaker 1>see Patsy Ramsey obviously being on some kind of mood stabilaza.

683
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.400
<v Speaker 1>When she's talking to the camera after the daughter is

684
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:36.280
<v Speaker 1>kidnapped and found dead, she's on something. She sounds weird,

685
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:39.239
<v Speaker 1>but she says there's a killer out there, and that

686
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:42.079
<v Speaker 1>turned off people in Boulder, turned off her neighbors. None

687
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:44.840
<v Speaker 1>of her neighbors want to talk about it. People implicated

688
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:47.320
<v Speaker 1>the son, who was nine years old at the time.

689
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:50.519
<v Speaker 1>How the hell could nine year old boy Taye Garott,

690
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:54.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, that that break a paintbrush and tie it

691
00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:57.079
<v Speaker 1>on a rope and use it to choke a little

692
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:59.639
<v Speaker 1>girl and then smash her over the head with something

693
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:03.239
<v Speaker 1>heavy enough to cause an eight inch cracked in a skull.

694
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Of course, he was exonerated, but all these things happened,

695
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:12.119
<v Speaker 1>and initially back in the day when I covered this story,

696
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:14.719
<v Speaker 1>I thought, all right, parents had to have something to

697
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:17.119
<v Speaker 1>do with it. Maybe it was that Santa Claus guy.

698
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:20.039
<v Speaker 1>One time I called a guy who played Santa Claus.

699
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:24.119
<v Speaker 1>He came to their home the year before, and that

700
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:26.800
<v Speaker 1>the day before she was found dead on the twenty

701
00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:30.719
<v Speaker 1>sixth December, and I talked to him and he was

702
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:33.840
<v Speaker 1>describing to me the shrine he built of John Benney

703
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:36.960
<v Speaker 1>in his backyard. I said, Linda, this guy's the fucking killer.

704
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:39.679
<v Speaker 1>Why he's built the shrine to it. The way he's

705
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:43.239
<v Speaker 1>talking is so weird. Okay, they never got this guy either.

706
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Other people came to light over the years, different people, drifters,

707
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:51.760
<v Speaker 1>people who had sexual assault cases across the country. Some

708
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:55.679
<v Speaker 1>people who did similar crimes. Broke into a house, kidnapped

709
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the girl, or at least jumped in the girl's bed,

710
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>assaulted her sexually, and left that was happening here and there.

711
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:05.000
<v Speaker 1>But some of the most fascinating things about this about

712
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:08.920
<v Speaker 1>this story, you'll hear people say when John bday and

713
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:14.039
<v Speaker 1>when Patsy and John had copstare that next morning where

714
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:17.320
<v Speaker 1>they got the ransom note, which is a very weird note.

715
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:21.800
<v Speaker 1>The note demands one hundred and eighteen thousand dollars, very strange.

716
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:24.480
<v Speaker 1>That's a strange amount. Why not one hundred? Why not

717
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:28.679
<v Speaker 1>two fifty? Why at one eighteen? Can you believe that

718
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:30.880
<v Speaker 1>was the amount of money he got for his bonus

719
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:35.079
<v Speaker 1>that year? One hundred eighteen thousand. That would make you

720
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:38.519
<v Speaker 1>think immediately this guy knew John Ramsey had worked, or

721
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:42.039
<v Speaker 1>he saw paperwork on his in his office desk that

722
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.280
<v Speaker 1>actually had the paperwork that showed the check, or at

723
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>least the receipt for the check. So who knows, but

724
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:54.159
<v Speaker 1>it's really creepy. Shit. What I find creepy is this

725
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:58.800
<v Speaker 1>ransom note looked like it could be Patsy's handwriting. It

726
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:01.199
<v Speaker 1>was deemed it wasn't a hand running. But what's interesting

727
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:03.320
<v Speaker 1>is it was on this yellow legal pant that the

728
00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Ramseys had in their house, and the page above the

729
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Ramsom note. In other words, they started to write it,

730
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and then stopped, and the second page they wrote it.

731
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:21.519
<v Speaker 1>The first ransom note began with mister and missus Ramsey,

732
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:25.079
<v Speaker 1>and then it stopped, and the next page was to

733
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:28.559
<v Speaker 1>John Ramsey, the father, explaining everything we have your daughter

734
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:30.199
<v Speaker 1>will kill her if you go to the cops, et cetera.

735
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:34.400
<v Speaker 1>But what I found the most weird is when they

736
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:39.000
<v Speaker 1>searched the house Christmas morning, nine ten o'clock, they don't

737
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:44.199
<v Speaker 1>find the girl's body. A day or two later, for

738
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:47.079
<v Speaker 1>some reason, the police detectives go, why don't you go

739
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:50.079
<v Speaker 1>back and search the house again and really look. They

740
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:54.440
<v Speaker 1>show up the house. John Ramsey lets them in. We

741
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:56.360
<v Speaker 1>have stitched the whole house. We have to sitch again

742
00:41:56.400 --> 00:42:00.159
<v Speaker 1>if we missed anything, and they missed the basement or

743
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:02.480
<v Speaker 1>what they call the train room, because that's where there

744
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:05.599
<v Speaker 1>was a train set another room. It was a very

745
00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:08.719
<v Speaker 1>big house, which by the way, it still has not sold.

746
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:12.239
<v Speaker 1>No one has bought that house since nineteen ninety six.

747
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.159
<v Speaker 1>It's a beautiful home. Nobody wants a piece of it.

748
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:19.639
<v Speaker 1>So the next day they go down with John Ramsey.

749
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:23.119
<v Speaker 1>He walks them straight downstairs, not looking left or right,

750
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:25.559
<v Speaker 1>goes right to this door where the training room is

751
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:28.679
<v Speaker 1>and there's a bunch of blankets and John Bunney's under

752
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:32.800
<v Speaker 1>the blanket dead. How if you're a police detected, do

753
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:35.840
<v Speaker 1>you not search the entire house? You don't look for

754
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:39.239
<v Speaker 1>a kid in the oven, the bathtub, every how, you

755
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:42.519
<v Speaker 1>just walk away. We checked, We checked at least five bedrooms.

756
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>How do you not go to the basement and why

757
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:49.039
<v Speaker 1>would John Ramsey walk right to that spot. Then there

758
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:52.760
<v Speaker 1>was the famous guy John Carr, who was on the

759
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:58.639
<v Speaker 1>phone with an investigator for years describing that he killed her.

760
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:01.760
<v Speaker 1>He feels awful about it. He's known John bin A

761
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>for years. He could be somebody involved in the pageant business.

762
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:08.280
<v Speaker 1>But this guy eventually told people I killed her. He

763
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:13.280
<v Speaker 1>knew details that weren't really known to the general public.

764
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.719
<v Speaker 1>This investigator is getting freaked out. The guy says he

765
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:21.360
<v Speaker 1>did it, but once again, after him getting arrested, et cetera,

766
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:24.800
<v Speaker 1>his DNA wasn't there either. There's no one whose DNA

767
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:27.800
<v Speaker 1>is there. But the whole basis of this documentary is

768
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:33.960
<v Speaker 1>nowadays we have more access to DNA than we did

769
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:39.800
<v Speaker 1>in the nineties. There's this public genealogy base which points

770
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:43.280
<v Speaker 1>to relatives you have across the world that you can

771
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:47.960
<v Speaker 1>get you closer and closer to the DNA that was

772
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:51.400
<v Speaker 1>found there, because the only database they had back in

773
00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:56.880
<v Speaker 1>ninety six, nobody in that database matched the DNA, No

774
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:01.199
<v Speaker 1>criminal matched it. So it's somebody who wasn't arrested yet,

775
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:03.199
<v Speaker 1>et cetera, and they still haven't found it. So now

776
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:07.519
<v Speaker 1>cops are saying they're getting closer to figuring out what happened.

777
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:10.920
<v Speaker 1>My theory is, and it's kind of the same as

778
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:14.519
<v Speaker 1>I thought years ago, and I came away last night

779
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:22.960
<v Speaker 1>from fielding the same thing. The father the pageants. I

780
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:26.360
<v Speaker 1>think somebody involved in that business or that business, that

781
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:30.760
<v Speaker 1>that festivity of the pageant girls, the way she was dressed,

782
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:32.760
<v Speaker 1>the way she was made to look like a young

783
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:35.400
<v Speaker 1>woman with the lipstick and the hair, and the way

784
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:38.800
<v Speaker 1>she moved on stage. And there's one video where she's

785
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:41.679
<v Speaker 1>playing the saxophone and one woman is calling it how

786
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.360
<v Speaker 1>sexual she was. This is a girl who was sexually

787
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:47.679
<v Speaker 1>abused because she's moving her she's playing the saxophone and

788
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:50.719
<v Speaker 1>bending up and bending down like most saxophone players do.

789
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:54.360
<v Speaker 1>That pissed me off. Then they said John Ramsey was

790
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:57.599
<v Speaker 1>going through his mail the next morning when detectician. He

791
00:44:57.679 --> 00:44:59.880
<v Speaker 1>was going through his mail because he thought they might

792
00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:03.199
<v Speaker 1>be more correspondence from the kidnappers. A lot of people

793
00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:06.559
<v Speaker 1>said things that were just wrong. I think there was

794
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:13.000
<v Speaker 1>somebody involved in this sort of beauty pageant slash pedophile thing,

795
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:17.320
<v Speaker 1>because there were people with these pageants that weren't husband

796
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:20.239
<v Speaker 1>and wife or parents of the girls in the show.

797
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:22.920
<v Speaker 1>They weren't relatives. They were just people who came to

798
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.960
<v Speaker 1>see the show. That's fucking weird. And I think the

799
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:30.480
<v Speaker 1>person who did this possibly knew John and Patsy and

800
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:32.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe there was like a little bit of a i'll

801
00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:36.079
<v Speaker 1>see your daughter, you see my daughter thing. I don't know.

802
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:40.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's completely innocent. Patsy Ramsey gave me

803
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:43.039
<v Speaker 1>the creeps, and I just think it has to do

804
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:47.639
<v Speaker 1>with some sort of pedophile ring that this John Carr described,

805
00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:50.519
<v Speaker 1>But again, he's not the killer. But what I wanted

806
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:55.239
<v Speaker 1>to say was, I mean, Jay Kevin would call me

807
00:45:55.440 --> 00:46:00.559
<v Speaker 1>as John Benney so much that I just found one

808
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:03.039
<v Speaker 1>of those old emails. It came after I wrote my

809
00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:08.519
<v Speaker 1>second book, and I sent them the review from the

810
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:11.880
<v Speaker 1>company called Kirkus that reviews books when they first come out,

811
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:16.679
<v Speaker 1>and Kirkus gave me a great review, like stunning review,

812
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:21.440
<v Speaker 1>and many people told me that that's tremendous. Kirkus doesn't

813
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:24.599
<v Speaker 1>like anything. They never get this positive over a new book.

814
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Of course, Kevin, with his sixth sense of humor, had

815
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:30.480
<v Speaker 1>to compliment me, but then had to kick me on

816
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:33.159
<v Speaker 1>the ass in the way out. And you read the book.

817
00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:35.480
<v Speaker 1>The first chapter deals with me going to New Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>with my mother and meeting my uncle Larry before he died,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was being taken care of by an Indian man,

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<v Speaker 1>a Native American who lived in the woods, who came

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<v Speaker 1>to my uncle Larry because he sensed there was somebody

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<v Speaker 1>in the area that needed his help. And this Indian chief,

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<v Speaker 1>we called him Chief I met him, would give him

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<v Speaker 1>all these plant elictures and different things that the Native

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00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:05.599
<v Speaker 1>Americans used before antibiotics were evolved, like branches from this tree,

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00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:09.519
<v Speaker 1>leaves from this flower, roots of this plant, and he

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<v Speaker 1>treated him naturally. It's very strange. But when we went

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<v Speaker 1>there that night. The first chapter opens up with me

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<v Speaker 1>and my mother going to Uncle Larry's house as he's

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<v Speaker 1>dying and his chief is there. That's the first part

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<v Speaker 1>of the first chapter. Gay Kevin writes me back, I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with the reviewers at Kirkus. They definitely gave it

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<v Speaker 1>a two thumbs up, as they should. You know, good

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<v Speaker 1>sleazy guinea fuck. In my book, I would have fucked

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<v Speaker 1>the Indian chief and lived happily ever after. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not your uncle, Larry. And then he goes on and on,

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<v Speaker 1>but he says, congrats you bumm. By the way, John

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00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Beney wants to talk to you. Here she is, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he writes in her voice, and I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the voicemail anymore. But he used to call me is

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<v Speaker 1>John Beney, And he wrote as John Beney high Aga.

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<v Speaker 1>Your book was a tough slog to get through, but

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<v Speaker 1>not as tough a time as I had in the

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<v Speaker 1>basement with John Carr. He was my sometimes love. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We used to play sex games. He made me a

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<v Speaker 1>necklace to die for. If you see the documentary the

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00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:18.320
<v Speaker 1>way John Bennet was killed or strangled, this guy made

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<v Speaker 1>a garat and twisted and those are normally used to

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<v Speaker 1>make pressure and then release it. It's used in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sexual audio asphyxiation kind of games. And he

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<v Speaker 1>said on the documentary that this was their love game

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<v Speaker 1>they played, and here he is having John Benet say

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<v Speaker 1>he made me a necklace to die for because John

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<v Speaker 1>Carr told her I brought you a necklace, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was the garat. It's disgusting, but that's Kevin. That's who

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00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:51.639
<v Speaker 1>we were back then, and I don't know. I just

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00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.119
<v Speaker 1>thought of him last night. I know that letter and

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00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:56.719
<v Speaker 1>the things we said are in bad taste, but sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>the only way to get over something so disgusting is

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<v Speaker 1>to try to find a laugh in there somehow, so

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to concentrate on just how awful human

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<v Speaker 1>beings can be. But that's it. That was my very

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<v Speaker 1>eventful exit from Las Vegas and my night watching the

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<v Speaker 1>Life and Death of John Benay Ramsey. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed that. Now I've got to go put some lights

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<v Speaker 1>on the Christmas tree and we'll hang the balls this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of hanging bulls, I gotta go. I'm aj Benzon.

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<v Speaker 1>I was your Daily Unfiltered podcast for December sixth, twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a great weekend because it only a couple

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<v Speaker 1>more till Christmas. Talk to Monday.
