Speaker 1: He listen to Committed Google Podcast episode four fifty six.
Speaker 1: I'm brandome, Here is Ryan and the We're gonna take
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Speaker 1: Hey Ryan, you're back for yet another whirlwind adventure.
Speaker 2: How you doing good?
Speaker 3: What is going down? I'm back.
Speaker 1: A whole ton is going Ryan is back. We've got
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Speaker 1: I got some borderless fetch lands, yes, and some of
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Speaker 3: so many cards from this set that I want listen
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Speaker 3: excited for all these things.
Speaker 2: Okay, but actually I.
Speaker 3: Am excited about many cards in Dusk Moore that we're
Speaker 3: gonna be talking about over the next few weeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, on me, this set sucks.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I hate everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, see you next week.
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Speaker 3: were We were just at Pile of Bones. It was
Speaker 3: so awesome.
Speaker 2: Wait is that how that happened?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: How far in the future are we right now?
Speaker 3: Next week? This week is Regina stop on the CEO tour.
Speaker 2: That's snuck right up on me.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I'm glad he did because we had the
Speaker 1: best time.
Speaker 3: Yes, hell yeah, we got we got Pile of Bones
Speaker 3: t shirts but forgot to wear them today. And we
Speaker 3: drank lots of Pile of Bones beer and it was fantastic.
Speaker 2: That I definitely recall doing it.
Speaker 3: You played lots of pinball and had a great time.
Speaker 2: I sure did.
Speaker 3: Yes, We stayed at Keels and he made us breakfast
Speaker 3: in the morning. Yeah yeah, and he didn't even leave
Speaker 3: me any hickeys.
Speaker 1: And we hung out with Leo that's his cat, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: and Rusty Trump Jones who also came in from Vancouver, and.
Speaker 3: Some of our other Oh no, Rusty Trump Jones did
Speaker 3: not come in, didn't he No, it was too much
Speaker 3: hassle for one day.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought he came in. Well, who was that
Speaker 2: guy I was talking to the whole time?
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Regina's got some, Yes, sir, got some.
Speaker 3: You don't need to finish that sentence.
Speaker 2: Freaks and peaks in Regina.
Speaker 3: Hey, big shout out to producer Gary and the Duffer
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Speaker 3: and you guys stepped up. Lots of people commented and
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Speaker 3: ask for and want, and there was a lot of
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Speaker 3: it was it was awesome to to not have to
Speaker 3: worry about that portion of my life that has been
Speaker 3: so dominated for the last eight years.
Speaker 1: Yes, so you got me and Garret to see how
Speaker 1: you realize that we will step up and that we're
Speaker 1: dope and you don't have to worry as much. Oh wow,
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Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, Jesus Christ are the fucking same.
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Speaker 3: I'm crammed in for the uh the command Fest Toronto,
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Speaker 3: they're gonna sell out. And it's the dusk worn launch weekend.
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Speaker 2: Oh shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's been calling it that because people are coming
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Speaker 3: are coming up from the States and they're like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: we need to get to know who's gonna be the
Speaker 3: cooks and who's gonna drive. And I'm like, oh man,
Speaker 3: this is turning into a whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, well that's what we were saying.
Speaker 1: Have you not been watching the show Me and Gary
Speaker 1: t It's gonna be the best thing ever.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: See, it's really easy to sign up Ryan to do
Speaker 1: stuff when he's not here. Yes, because he can't say no.
Speaker 1: And since we did it two weeks in a row
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Speaker 2: So thanks guys, because it's gonna be a lot of fun,
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Speaker 3: into our discord, and the discord is where all the
Speaker 3: planning happens all of the planning commences kind of sort
Speaker 3: of after the previous one is done. So when Toronto's done,
Speaker 3: I'm full fledged on who's bringing packs, what prizes and
Speaker 3: merch they're gonna be, who's gonna drive from, like our crew,
Speaker 3: who's gonna do the booze and the food and the
Speaker 3: cooking and all of the stuff for the championship weekend,
Speaker 3: and you know what over and above like Commander Cookout
Speaker 3: and CCO Nation like being part of this and liking
Speaker 3: this and our community coming together to do these things
Speaker 3: and have fun. Retailers across Canada have have noticed. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that's really freaking cool, you guys, Like like Face
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Speaker 3: Canadian tour that feeds up to the pro tour and stuff.
Speaker 3: Lots of people here know that, or everybody here knows that,
Speaker 3: and like talking to their management and their events people
Speaker 3: and talking to retailers like Fusion Gaming and all of
Speaker 3: the other retail partners at these face to face events.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I saw the CEO guys here, or oh
Speaker 3: it's cool that you guys do this, or how do
Speaker 3: we get in in the house next time? Other creators
Speaker 3: are like, how do I stop in at your house
Speaker 3: and like jam games and make content and stuff with
Speaker 3: you guys? Like other people are noticing, and that's fricking cool.
Speaker 2: That's pretty neat. So it's all on youse guys. Yeah
Speaker 2: we're doing that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, super cool stuff. So I don't know. I
Speaker 3: wanted to talk about that a little bit. And last
Speaker 3: thing I got, okay, speaking of the Calgary thing, the
Speaker 3: Calgary thing, we had a gentleman by the name of
Speaker 3: Steve email Us talking about the CEDH five K that
Speaker 3: was in Vancouver. Remember in Vancouver, everybody was hyping up
Speaker 3: this CDH five K like all weekend because it was
Speaker 3: happening on the Sunday. Yeah, and then I did a
Speaker 3: little bit of an interview that never saw the light
Speaker 3: of the day with the winner and face to face
Speaker 3: games gave away like five thousand dollars in prizes for
Speaker 3: the CDH tournament. It dominated Sunday and that's all anybody
Speaker 3: was talking about. Well, they're doing it again in Calgary,
Speaker 3: and you know how hyper competitive the Calgary crew is.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we not only want to try and break a
Speaker 3: record for most number of numbers of pods in a day,
Speaker 3: for commander, which we have routinely facilitated.
Speaker 2: You've done that several times.
Speaker 3: But we want to make this CEDH five K like
Speaker 3: the talk of the frickin town. And if we have
Speaker 3: to plan it none. If you don't want to, who well,
Speaker 3: if you don't plan it there you got to play sealed.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck me? All right?
Speaker 3: Well why I get your cd the I'm just I'm
Speaker 3: just kidding.
Speaker 2: It's Max o'clock baby here.
Speaker 3: But Calgary. Calgary is like the c EDH hub in
Speaker 3: Western Canada. At least that's how I look at it.
Speaker 3: It's I can barely turn around in Calgary without finding
Speaker 3: somebody to play CEDH with. Not that there's no casual, right,
Speaker 3: but there's lots of CDH. And I wanted to mention
Speaker 3: that because I think if if we can kind of
Speaker 3: drum up enough interest and hype that and make people
Speaker 3: excited for it, it helps it be successful. And ultimately,
Speaker 3: when things are successful, that's how more things in Canada happen.
Speaker 3: It's how we eventually get a magic fest or a
Speaker 3: magic con right.
Speaker 2: That isn't in frickin Toronto, Well, it'll probably.
Speaker 3: Be in Toronto, to be honest, we're Vancouver it won't
Speaker 3: be in Vancouver. It could be in Vancouver, it won't
Speaker 3: be in.
Speaker 2: I like Vancouver. There's a beach.
Speaker 3: There's beaches in Toronto. Nah huh, yeah, there are newt beaches,
Speaker 3: like right across the way. No way, yes, Why don't
Speaker 3: believe there are schlungs and boobs not even on the ocean.
Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna say they're not even big,
Speaker 3: not if you're not there exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, tiny schongs on the ocean.
Speaker 3: Dusk morn, jumbo shrimp, baby chet's what they call you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm Bubba Gump and your jumbo shrimp.
Speaker 2: That's me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, except I can't run as fast as for
Speaker 3: as Gump right now.
Speaker 2: Not anymore.
Speaker 3: Dusk worn dusk morn, ten ten thousand feet The House
Speaker 3: of Horrors.
Speaker 2: Magics can't even see it. There's a roof over top.
Speaker 3: Modern take on in astrad horror, slasher, body horror, cosmic horror, Like,
Speaker 3: what is it? I you think it is?
Speaker 1: I don't think it actually is in a straw in anyway.
Speaker 2: Nope, not in a single way. Okay, it was more
Speaker 2: horror trophy.
Speaker 1: It was vampires and wear wolves and zombies in the
Speaker 1: Dungeons and Dragons World, Raven.
Speaker 2: Loft, where everything was just like.
Speaker 3: Horror class camera like yeah, like Dracula.
Speaker 1: Exactly, whereas this one is more modern horror. I would
Speaker 1: call it a lot more of the movies are are
Speaker 1: like walking down the video aisle. It's gonna date myself
Speaker 1: at Blockbuster. You're walking down the DVD I'll look and
Speaker 1: left and right, and you're seeing all the horror titles.
Speaker 3: That's, oh man, you're making me sad on the inside,
Speaker 3: and playing the Sega Saturn demo and looking at all
Speaker 3: the snacks and walking by the new releases and seeing
Speaker 3: like six hundred of the same movie all lined up.
Speaker 3: You're looking for one copy that's got the vhs behind
Speaker 3: it still.
Speaker 1: And they're gone a little bit silence produce.
Speaker 3: Gary was that, Yeah, he does, he does.
Speaker 1: But it's that's what I think Dusk Warn is me too.
Speaker 1: It's very much the the Haunted House and all of it.
Speaker 1: I think that that's completely tertiary to the fact that
Speaker 1: they wanted to take the tropes out of these modern
Speaker 1: horror movies and staple them on the cards. And I
Speaker 1: think maybe just because I get so many of the
Speaker 1: references and stuff, I think for me, this set just feels.
Speaker 2: So on the nose. But this is your set, isn't it?
Speaker 2: It is? And it's almost like they gave me too much.
Speaker 3: Killing you with kindness, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like if they give you if you get a bowl
Speaker 1: of pudding, chocolate pudding, it's not where I thought this
Speaker 1: was going, but delicious, and you eat it and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh man, this is really good. But if they gave
Speaker 1: you a four gallon pail of it and told you
Speaker 1: you had to eat it or you couldn't leave, like
Speaker 1: in seven, then you know you're you're gonna get sick
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: And I feel like that's kind of what happened to me.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I don't know. I recognize that. I
Speaker 2: recognize that, I know this. I don't know that.
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh man, well okay, I'm on.
Speaker 1: Guys, like give me something that's give me a fucking
Speaker 1: magic card.
Speaker 3: I got you, I got you know this is what
Speaker 3: I think about that. Okay, I'm a butterscotch guy.
Speaker 2: That's fair. I like banana.
Speaker 3: Okay, well we got we got a whole bunch, is
Speaker 3: what you're saying.
Speaker 2: And that's not to say that I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to think that I don't, Okay,
Speaker 1: because this sounded like it's just the theme of it
Speaker 1: kind of is less a lot of the lusters off
Speaker 1: of it for me, just because there's so much.
Speaker 2: Stuff and I just kind of I don't want to
Speaker 2: sound like one of.
Speaker 1: Those people like I don't want Bernie the Dinosaur on
Speaker 1: a magic card. It's just this is the least magic
Speaker 1: y magic set I think I've ever seen. And I've
Speaker 1: I've seen Assassin's Creed, yeah, and I've seen Fallout and
Speaker 1: I've seen Doctor Who. But this one, to me is
Speaker 1: like the least magic y magic set just in terms
Speaker 1: of flavor and Yep, this is the.
Speaker 2: Tipping point for you.
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, little, I think you went a little
Speaker 1: too far on this one.
Speaker 2: Watsie.
Speaker 3: Do you think it's because they stuck a whole bunch
Speaker 3: of like i'll call it, like late model imagery on it.
Speaker 3: There's walkie talkies, radios and TVs and like technical gadgets.
Speaker 1: Only the Cheerleader bugged me and aliens we'll talk about okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And Aliens and the Cheerleader were ones like Baseball Batcher,
Speaker 1: the Ghost.
Speaker 2: Vacuum from Ghostbusters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, a literal chainsaw, sure, but like just a cheerleader.
Speaker 1: And then the aliens kind of bug me for reasons
Speaker 1: that go way back to my understanding of what the
Speaker 1: magic Universe and the multiverse actually is. Now that they've
Speaker 1: acknowledged that there is space, what's in fucking space?
Speaker 3: El Droz. Maybe these guys in the al drawsy like
Speaker 3: they hang out at like the Cosmic Pub. It's like
Speaker 3: when we go to the Coachman, but it's full of
Speaker 3: like emmercool and aliens. That's kind of what it feels.
Speaker 2: Like, creatures and shit really, and the ways right we we.
Speaker 3: Would finally be able to ask them slimy or smooth,
Speaker 3: slimyre dry?
Speaker 2: I still say they're slimy.
Speaker 3: I still say they're dry.
Speaker 2: They're slimy.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I think I think some of what you're
Speaker 3: feeling is the result of the type of complaints that
Speaker 3: people had when Transformers came out during Brothers Brother sure,
Speaker 3: and Assassin's Creed kind of but Fallout for sure, where
Speaker 3: it's like, here's this post apocalyptic or modern setting with
Speaker 3: modern technology and there's a lot of like factory made
Speaker 3: metal items that have sharp edges. Yeah, and they're not rounded,
Speaker 3: and it isn't It doesn't feel like classical or traditional
Speaker 3: high fantasy. Sure I don't get classical traditional high fantasy
Speaker 3: from this, but of course that's not what the point is.
Speaker 3: The point is to do a different genre. They're trying
Speaker 3: to do something, and of course the opposite is I
Speaker 3: love that because opposite to you is I love that
Speaker 3: because it gives the movie nerds and the people who
Speaker 3: get the pop culture references their own thing, and it
Speaker 3: demonstrates magics like range or breadth and width of ability
Speaker 3: to showcase all these different.
Speaker 2: Styles you really can. I think that. When we talked
Speaker 2: about on the show last week, Gary was really excited, like,
Speaker 2: oh eighties wor you kidding me? This is so cool?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Brandle, this set has made for you.
Speaker 2: And in a way it is. But it's just a
Speaker 2: little too heavy handed, is all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Well, the cards are the cards are excellent, and nothing
Speaker 1: looks bad, it feels bad.
Speaker 2: It's just there's so much of it that I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh man, I'm sick of discovering things. Just give me,
Speaker 2: just give me this car, right.
Speaker 3: I just want to slash some arms off some people.
Speaker 2: I want a one one for foeurign A Red.
Speaker 1: It's indestructible and whenever he takes damage, he does that
Speaker 1: much damage to target opponent. And I can tap Red
Speaker 1: and two and him to have him deal.
Speaker 2: Or fight another creature. That's all I want. That's all
Speaker 2: I want.
Speaker 3: I want. Maybe one day you'll get that.
Speaker 2: That's strangely specific, but wats ye.
Speaker 1: I would really appreciate if you could make that card
Speaker 1: happen because I feel like I would just talk about
Speaker 1: it all the time. It would become just part of
Speaker 1: my personality.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, Well let's talk about some new abilities. We
Speaker 3: covered them a little bit on the pre show, but
Speaker 3: there's some kookie and weird things.
Speaker 2: There are some strange things here.
Speaker 3: Yes, with rooms, we've got our first ever double or
Speaker 3: split card.
Speaker 2: And these are not.
Speaker 1: Like battles where they're their own thing, not another card
Speaker 1: type for ptarmagoif or Delirium correct.
Speaker 3: Correct. It is a subtype, so it's an enchantment. That's
Speaker 3: its super type. It's subtype is room. So things that
Speaker 3: care about rooms entering or rooms being unlocked care about these.
Speaker 3: And you cast it on one side or the other,
Speaker 3: and both sides have the same typeline, and there's a
Speaker 3: whole bunch of little subtleties like with split cards. What
Speaker 3: is this card's converted mana cost? Right?
Speaker 1: Is that is something that I'm actively wondering about, because
Speaker 1: I now have a deck that specifically cares about how
Speaker 1: much my enchantments cost. So does one half of the
Speaker 1: card not exist?
Speaker 3: Well? I have it right here, Actually go while on
Speaker 3: the battlefield. A room card has the characteristics of its
Speaker 3: unlocked doors. For example, okay, if only porcelain gallery that's
Speaker 3: a toilet is unlocked, the permanence of mana value is.
Speaker 3: If both doors are unlocked, the permanent's man of value
Speaker 3: is eight, because the other room has a mane cost
Speaker 3: of two, so six and two is eight.
Speaker 2: Add them together.
Speaker 3: Similarly, if both doors are unlocked, the permanent has get
Speaker 3: this two names. It has two names. That's the weird
Speaker 3: part of it. Okay, okay, has two names. If in
Speaker 3: your library, graveyard and hand, a room card has the
Speaker 3: combined man of value of both of its halves and
Speaker 3: both of its names. So, for example, if an effect
Speaker 3: allows you to search your library for a card or
Speaker 3: the man of value of three or less, you couldn't
Speaker 3: find doll Maker's Shop and Porcelain Gallery. Even if doll
Speaker 3: Maker's Shop has a man of value of two total,
Speaker 3: because the man of value of the whole card is eight,
Speaker 3: So they have a lot of, like I said, little
Speaker 3: subtleties where Uncle Brando is like starting to smoke at
Speaker 3: the years. So when you make your five color Enchantress
Speaker 3: door dot deck or include these in your enchantress or
Speaker 3: enchantment based decks, make sure you learn those subtle little
Speaker 3: things because I'm not going to go into all of
Speaker 3: the comp rule additions for doors. I think that would
Speaker 3: just make for two boring of a show.
Speaker 1: So if somebody paid two to get Dollmaker's Shop and
Speaker 1: then I managrained it, I would get eight manna.
Speaker 2: Is that what you're telling me?
Speaker 3: No, because you're casting one side, you're casting the door
Speaker 3: oka like, or you're casting the card that you're casting.
Speaker 3: If you managrain it, you get that man of value
Speaker 3: of the portion of the spell that you're casting. Okay, oh, judges,
Speaker 3: let us know if you're wrong on that.
Speaker 2: Well not we I had nothing to do with that shit.
Speaker 3: Oh no, but you're part of Commander Cookout Enterprises. You're
Speaker 3: here for the fucking ride. Boy, damn it. Okay, Manifest
Speaker 3: Dread your favorite.
Speaker 2: We talked about this one on the pre show.
Speaker 3: We did, and it's I didn't bring up something very
Speaker 3: specifically that I like about this though.
Speaker 2: It's Manifest.
Speaker 1: But your millicard you look at two. One becomes the
Speaker 1: two to two Manifest creature. The other one goes in
Speaker 1: the bin.
Speaker 3: Yep, and I can do it or you can do it,
Speaker 3: depending on who the card says does it.
Speaker 1: The card that they're using as an example on the
Speaker 1: article is Unwanted Remake.
Speaker 3: Destroy target creature. It's controller manifests dread and for you,
Speaker 3: you get your creature dead. I get your creature dead.
Speaker 3: You get the upside of getting another creature to.
Speaker 1: Replace it instead of getting a tapped land or some life.
Speaker 3: Yep, you're getting a two to bro because this is
Speaker 3: an instant for white. This is actually a good card,
Speaker 3: and you get, well, this is an amazing this card
Speaker 3: is great.
Speaker 2: I will open one of these. It's going directly into
Speaker 2: a card or into a deck. Instead of.
Speaker 1: The one with the kitten on it, I have one
Speaker 1: that has a kitten and I'm gonna cut it sure.
Speaker 2: Because it does the same thing. Because white white instead
Speaker 2: of just white.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they can make a really good card that
Speaker 3: gives the opponent an upside for like a cheap maniicost
Speaker 3: like this one. Or they can give me a Manifest
Speaker 3: Dread guy and mil me a card if that's what
Speaker 3: I want, and that's why I put it in my deck.
Speaker 3: But what I really like, and this is a subtle
Speaker 3: little thing, we get it sometimes when things like Manifest Dreads,
Speaker 3: say face down creature. There's a lot of cares about
Speaker 3: face down creatures in this set, which makes all of
Speaker 3: the players who play Morph very happy. And you know
Speaker 3: that I'm a big time animar player, right, and I
Speaker 3: like to explore all the different kinds of Animar builds,
Speaker 3: and Animrphs is one of those that gets like significant
Speaker 3: upgrades because of this set. A lot of the Morph
Speaker 3: stuff or face down stuff is in blue and green neat. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it's it's not something that I think that everybody
Speaker 3: cares about, but it does have specific applications where the
Speaker 3: people who do care about it really freaking care about it.
Speaker 3: And that makes me happy that people get more shit
Speaker 3: like like if crabs get printed, or advisors or people
Speaker 3: or one ones for four that are indestructible that you
Speaker 3: can pay some man and have it fight something for five.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sure, card doesn't even exist.
Speaker 2: You're probably right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, how does it feel to have no identity?
Speaker 3: Nobody from nowhere with no hometown.
Speaker 2: Oh it sucks, man.
Speaker 3: I know. If only there was a card, if only
Speaker 3: that card was real.
Speaker 2: It's a manifest right, it also exists.
Speaker 1: It's it's here, It's fine. Survival is the next one.
Speaker 1: I like this one. I assume the intent as printed
Speaker 1: on the card is it survives combat. As you tap
Speaker 1: it to attack, then you get some benefit because they've
Speaker 1: survived a trial and something happens.
Speaker 2: There's a few cards in the set that I.
Speaker 1: Think are going to, I don't want to say, become problematic,
Speaker 1: but you can already see.
Speaker 2: The is it turn one, turn two? You can get
Speaker 2: that four drop that let's put permanence from your hand.
Speaker 1: Into play for free with the Smuggler's copter and just
Speaker 1: right like so we're gonna there is that too?
Speaker 3: Oh, that's that's a fricking good corp. Is that guy
Speaker 3: a dinosaur? No, I've gotta go in a dinosaur vehicles deck?
Speaker 2: And he's a spirit and is the enchantment spirits.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like a spirit survivor.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell is, but this is
Speaker 2: a cool ability. I like this one.
Speaker 3: Did you notice that a lot of these the or
Speaker 3: maybe it's all of them that have the survival keyword ability.
Speaker 3: Their creature type is survivor, which is actually important in
Speaker 3: Magic's history. There are cards that reference survivors on them.
Speaker 3: There are maybe those cards will see a price bike
Speaker 3: hashtag emptyg finance.
Speaker 1: I play them into Ralph. Oh yeah, because they make
Speaker 1: survivor tokens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, maybe you get more survivors for your survivor deck.
Speaker 2: Now, man, I'm gonna get all man. Oh, it's because
Speaker 2: it makes survivor tokens for everybody else. Donate switch your
Speaker 2: then earthquake.
Speaker 3: Them fricking reins of power. Switch control of all the creatures.
Speaker 3: Come on, what is it?
Speaker 2: The war Riders.
Speaker 3: Somebody's war riding our child's war riders.
Speaker 1: And then actual our child when she dies, you gain
Speaker 1: control of all survivors.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so on you can switch your survivors and
Speaker 3: then gain control powerful magic. Welcome to CCIO Nation, everybody,
Speaker 3: Next up, Eerie, that's enchantress. Bullshit.
Speaker 2: If someone comes into play, do with thing and do
Speaker 2: another thing.
Speaker 3: Sure. Very notably though, enchantment you control enters the battlefield.
Speaker 3: The last time we saw that was Constellation in theo's
Speaker 3: and the one that's like draw card get a plus
Speaker 3: one plus one counter on it. Man, pretty good, fricking
Speaker 3: really good.
Speaker 2: It's pretty really good because you don't got to cast it.
Speaker 3: You can just like replenish it into play, like when
Speaker 3: your graveyard is full. Because I don't know you're playing
Speaker 3: dusk morn. You cast replenish and I know it's an
Speaker 3: eighty dollars card, but.
Speaker 2: There's new replenish now, right, there's.
Speaker 3: Replenish.
Speaker 2: It's like tanna.
Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying, Oh sure, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: replenish all these are all etb and I'm gonna draw
Speaker 3: fifteen cards. Yeah, it's pretty freaking good. Yeah, impending like
Speaker 3: this is uh po uh enchantresses suspend, suspend there it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thing comes into play with some time counters on it.
Speaker 2: We talked about this again.
Speaker 1: I'll appreciate you want to full run down on how
Speaker 1: this works so you get the benefit of the permanent
Speaker 1: coming into play. They all have one of those, and
Speaker 1: then after a certain number of turns, they will become
Speaker 1: a creature, usually a sizeable beater of some kind, that
Speaker 1: then replicates its effect each time it attacks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So those are the abilities I think where they
Speaker 3: will be accepted or where people like them. People will
Speaker 3: really like them.
Speaker 1: One thing I think about this set that I do appreciate,
Speaker 1: just based again on my own interpretation of how the
Speaker 1: new Mechanics is introducing. The only really really new thing
Speaker 1: that's coming in is the doors, So you'll have the
Speaker 1: door deck that is then left over from the set.
Speaker 1: But I feel like everything else here kind of just
Speaker 1: finds a way into other people's decks. Animorphs is a
Speaker 1: good example of that. Right, you're just going to attack
Speaker 1: the attacky decks that want their teachers to the teachers
Speaker 1: their creatures to be tapped after combat. Right, You're going
Speaker 1: to see lots of that kind of stuff, And I
Speaker 1: do dig that where it's not giving you a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff that you're just never ever gonna see
Speaker 1: interacted with.
Speaker 2: Again, there's not a lot of energy and type mechanics
Speaker 2: in this set, which I really appreciate. What are we
Speaker 2: looking at?
Speaker 3: I'm looking up because I wanted to ask you about
Speaker 3: collecting dusk morn.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: And you don't got to go all the way into it,
Speaker 3: but I know that you like to find out where
Speaker 3: to get specific printings of cards because, as we all know,
Speaker 3: Uncle Brando aggressively foils his deck and usually does that
Speaker 3: on the back of procuring a box of Collector booster
Speaker 3: packs from a one store that he uh gets a
Speaker 3: discount by using CCO Summer Promo code, and then he
Speaker 3: trades them back in for store credit, which is fantastic
Speaker 3: for stores. And if you can do that, do that, yeah,
Speaker 3: because you can turn it into free magic cards after
Speaker 3: a while of doing it.
Speaker 2: Don't have chaff in your house. Just take it to
Speaker 2: the store.
Speaker 1: Yeah, help stock their shelves. It's good for them, especially
Speaker 1: on release time. And then you can usually turn it
Speaker 1: into the singles that you actually want, or if you
Speaker 1: get really lucky, you can turn it into like more
Speaker 1: boxes off of the back of not very many dollars,
Speaker 1: which is pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah again, hashtag MPTG finance. Let's en us go.
Speaker 1: And actually, before we get into too much of this,
Speaker 1: this this set has a ton a ton of extra stuff.
Speaker 1: There's like double exposure cards and there's the TV frame cards,
Speaker 1: and there's the raised foils and the Japanese anime cards
Speaker 1: and the can not confetti foils but the cracked up
Speaker 1: crackhead foils if the hell those are called.
Speaker 2: There's special guests.
Speaker 3: There's Japanese Showcase or japan Showcase ones that have like
Speaker 3: different arts. They kind of look like Pokemon. Yeah, there's
Speaker 3: a kind of.
Speaker 1: Do So there's so many different things, but Watsi has
Speaker 1: had mercy on us for this particular set. You can
Speaker 1: get everything everywhere with the exception of the raised foils
Speaker 1: and the anime cards. Everything else will show up in
Speaker 1: both boosters, your play booster and your collect boosters. And
Speaker 1: there's a card that you just I want this card,
Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to open it everywhere, with the
Speaker 1: obvious exception of like the extended art cards and that kind.
Speaker 3: Of Yeah, then you want a card with this name
Speaker 3: on it. You can get this name of this card anywhere.
Speaker 3: And they do this so they can put the cards
Speaker 3: that people want the most in the least number of
Speaker 3: packs to keep the expected value of the pack high. Right,
Speaker 3: the ev if I can expect to get a raised foil,
Speaker 3: Japanese Alternate Art card in a collector pack, and that
Speaker 3: card is worth a thousand dollars. That's going to keep
Speaker 3: the price of that pack high for people who care
Speaker 3: about that, people who like to collect sealed products, people
Speaker 3: who like to sell sealed product in mass like stores
Speaker 3: and online retailers. But doing us a service in putting
Speaker 3: that same card in its regular formats, regular foil, regular printing,
Speaker 3: whatever in every other pack is good for all of
Speaker 3: the other Joe blows, Joe Schmo's and Jane does who
Speaker 3: want to just open I just.
Speaker 2: Can't a goddamn chainsaw.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be the fucking background from Earthbound
Speaker 1: with a zombie medaling out with a chainsaw getting hit
Speaker 1: by lightning.
Speaker 2: Like, we don't need that one. I just want thee
Speaker 2: with the goddamn chainsaw.
Speaker 3: Do you what? Okay? Now getting into it? Okay, Now,
Speaker 3: what of these do you like the most?
Speaker 2: I like all of them?
Speaker 3: Okay, So double exposure cards these are the ones that
Speaker 3: are like mostly just two colors and they look like
Speaker 3: photo negatives right, like the purple and the yellows.
Speaker 2: I like these lots. I want to see them in
Speaker 2: foil before I totally judge them.
Speaker 3: They're gonna look so freaking good.
Speaker 1: I think they're really gonna stand out. I think those
Speaker 1: are really cool. I like that they're like duo chromatic
Speaker 1: or whatever. Oh yeah, those are the ones where your
Speaker 1: textured foil comes into play.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be.
Speaker 3: Some rare textured foils of those. The Valgavath or whatever
Speaker 3: his name is, with all like his textured wing look
Speaker 3: oh alive that. I don't want to mention too many cards
Speaker 3: on this show, so editor Joe doesn't.
Speaker 2: Like they start shooting. Yeah, but it's they're cool. They're
Speaker 2: they're very neat.
Speaker 1: And then the Japanese showcase ones, they're all cards that
Speaker 1: you again, you can get elsewhere.
Speaker 2: These ones look really cool.
Speaker 3: Have you seen the foils of these?
Speaker 1: I have only seen a couple of Like I think
Speaker 1: they might have just been computer renderings of the crackhead foil.
Speaker 2: They're like all the.
Speaker 3: Kids confetti foil on on the borders. They look like
Speaker 3: freaking Pokemon cards.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how I feel about these.
Speaker 1: If there was a red one that went to Nora
Speaker 1: and I would really want one.
Speaker 3: Dude, if you open one in a collector boostio, have
Speaker 3: you got a box yet for a BBO I do.
Speaker 2: I have one on the way. We're We're ready to go.
Speaker 2: I've been I've been telling Gary for the last little while.
Speaker 1: I got plans, I got a little I got a
Speaker 1: storyboard with little stick Man.
Speaker 2: There's one stick man.
Speaker 3: It's me, but he's just getting stabbed to death.
Speaker 2: I want ants. I want like reminders of all the
Speaker 2: funny things I think I can do.
Speaker 1: But I'm excited for this one. I's gonna get my
Speaker 1: ass in gear before it snows so that I can
Speaker 1: get it done.
Speaker 3: Oh hey, you just reminded me of something actually that
Speaker 3: I didn't have a note for. Maybe I did and forgot.
Speaker 3: I know. Here's the thing. I know that it's September. Okay,
Speaker 3: I know that it's September. But I'm open for altered
Speaker 3: art card commissions. And everybody knows that I book a
Speaker 3: month or six weeks in advance. And I don't want
Speaker 3: people coming to me in December saying I need you
Speaker 3: to paint this card for a Christmas present, because you
Speaker 3: know that that's not going to happen eight fucking years
Speaker 3: of this. People, you got a book in now or
Speaker 3: in the next month to get your Christmas present.
Speaker 2: Alters in examples every Thursday on our Facebook page.
Speaker 1: Want to learn how to do it yourself? Because Ryan
Speaker 1: doesn't have time because you waited too long by the book?
Speaker 3: Ooh good sales pitch and you're welcome. Yeah, I was
Speaker 3: gonna say I haven't had a whole ton of time
Speaker 3: to work lately, or I've been physically incapable of doing
Speaker 3: it because sitting for a long time hurt my fricking
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Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: Okay, anime stuff, Let's get Pokemon cards.
Speaker 2: Pokemon cards, they're fine. I like, these are my favorite ones.
Speaker 2: They're my favorites.
Speaker 1: Those are like the reflection monster coming to get your cards.
Speaker 1: There's the one where it's like the the iris of
Speaker 1: the dude's eye and the monster's coming to get him.
Speaker 1: This one's like he's holding up a knife trying to
Speaker 1: protect himself and the monster's coming down like rip him apart.
Speaker 3: He protects himself with a knife like that.
Speaker 2: There does that well, somebody's really scared, man, But these
Speaker 2: are super cool. I love these cards. They're monsters coming to.
Speaker 3: Get me and the only shield I have is a knife.
Speaker 2: What am I gonna do? Yeah?
Speaker 3: You could use the knife on the creature. Look at
Speaker 3: that guy's got an equipment right in his head and
Speaker 3: he's using it wrong.
Speaker 1: He's got a testicle for a chest, a chestesticle.
Speaker 2: You beat me to it, right, damn it?
Speaker 1: Brandle, I know Hunt Hountwood Shrieker is the the super
Speaker 1: duper art I'll name cards.
Speaker 2: I'm afraid of. Joe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what's gonna do? Throw a frisbee from Winnipeg
Speaker 3: to Hear and hit you right in the head.
Speaker 2: Probably can't even do it.
Speaker 3: He probably could, Actually, I'd like to see him try.
Speaker 3: He can get one of his drivers, Okay, And then
Speaker 3: we've got these. These are the paranormal the paranormal frames.
Speaker 3: It's like you're looking through.
Speaker 1: They're they're the television. That's how the Yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: the set's telling you. There are movie references and television
Speaker 1: references in.
Speaker 3: This is that is that what it is? I'm not
Speaker 3: looking through like a paranormal investigator's weird camera.
Speaker 2: That's not that's a a TV. That's a television for.
Speaker 3: Sure, And we get a bunch of different movie references
Speaker 3: on these ones.
Speaker 2: And there's lots of like eighties stuff. I kind of
Speaker 2: if Gary could see the Chainsaw one like it actually,
Speaker 2: I think it is the.
Speaker 1: Final Boss from Earthbound, if you've ever seen the Final
Speaker 1: Boss from Earthbound, like, it's pretty cool. There's some neat
Speaker 1: cards and they're really cool and.
Speaker 3: They're very close to being RGB, like like if you
Speaker 3: were to stretch out like a like a VCR tape
Speaker 3: so you can see all three different colors. And yeah,
Speaker 3: they I very much enjoyed the aesthetic of them, and
Speaker 3: I wish with acrylics on this scale, I could develop
Speaker 3: a technique to do it that doesn't involve like multiple stencils,
Speaker 3: and yeah, multiple stencils or rollers, and this kind of
Speaker 3: paint all needs to be undercoated in white if you're
Speaker 3: doing it with the crylics. I wish I could find
Speaker 3: a way to do it and kind of replicate these
Speaker 3: but across like the whole card. I'm sure I could.
Speaker 2: Do it, but the time is it intensive.
Speaker 3: Labor, and none of these are cards that I very
Speaker 3: distinctly want to build or reprints of commanders I already have,
Speaker 3: but we're not talking about commanders today.
Speaker 2: So that's that's that's next week. No, there's one other classes.
Speaker 2: There's two other classifications. Man, look at how cool that
Speaker 2: is that are? Yeah? I need one of those. Look
Speaker 2: a look at this? So good?
Speaker 3: Do you? Guys? Don't get to see you will show
Speaker 3: see you next week.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about cards next week. We've got there's this
Speaker 1: special guest cards. Those are the ten like random reprints
Speaker 1: that are on the they're.
Speaker 2: The you can play them and shield and you can
Speaker 2: play them an DH.
Speaker 3: I guess or any other Yeah, but they're not standard
Speaker 3: legal legal.
Speaker 1: This is a good, good spread of them. I think
Speaker 1: they did a pretty good job and a card good
Speaker 1: selection of cards this year.
Speaker 2: And and this is important. Do you remember the all
Speaker 2: will be wondle?
Speaker 3: I do, because there's the white Fyrexian bundle with the
Speaker 3: white click down thing that was really hard to get right.
Speaker 1: And it had that special Mystery booster pack that like
Speaker 1: two of the fourteen special raised complete.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the two like ink blot lands or you got
Speaker 3: like a card and a basic.
Speaker 1: Right when you got two mythic rares that were done
Speaker 1: in this like crazy virtually unseeable art and those make
Speaker 1: a comeback. Yeah, those make a comeback here, except I
Speaker 1: think they did it a little bit again, a little
Speaker 1: nicer to us, the players who may want to collect them.
Speaker 1: And there's two slots in each back, okay, And there's
Speaker 1: three cards that could be in each slot, and so
Speaker 1: you'll randomly get one movie poster and one just extended
Speaker 1: art card of the available ones.
Speaker 2: And there's some neat reprints. There's a Living Death, there's
Speaker 2: a crypt Gas. There's a couple of other cards.
Speaker 3: And there isn't there a blood moon?
Speaker 2: Is there a blood moon? No, that's a secret layer
Speaker 2: that's coming.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right. That's right.
Speaker 2: So that's pretty cool too. So if you have found
Speaker 2: an all, will an all will be wondle.
Speaker 1: I haven't quite come up with what the Dusk bundle
Speaker 1: a dusk bundle, I guess if.
Speaker 2: You can find one of those in your in your
Speaker 2: lgs or.
Speaker 3: Okay, So this is this is a special bundle. Can
Speaker 3: I get a normal bundle?
Speaker 1: Yes, there's normal bundles and special bundles. The reason I
Speaker 1: like this bundle is because the box looks like a television.
Speaker 3: Oh I wanted one yes, yes, I saw one on Fusion.
Speaker 3: I'm laying in bed because that's all I've done for
Speaker 3: the last three weeks. And I showed her Recca. I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, look at they've made a TV box bundle.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. She was like, you're still name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but those are pretty cool.
Speaker 1: And but if you the those six cards, they all
Speaker 1: have the Commander set symbol on them, and so I
Speaker 1: saw a lot of.
Speaker 2: Confusionly, where the hell do you get these? What decks? Command?
Speaker 3: Oh? Like the butterfly with the dest behind yes, yes,
Speaker 3: not the regular butterflies, the butterfly with the thing behind
Speaker 3: it yea.
Speaker 1: So those aren't in packs at all. Those aren't in
Speaker 1: Commander decks at all. You can only get those in
Speaker 1: the Dusk Mundle, much like the raised oil.
Speaker 2: Slick foils from the All Will Be Wundle last year.
Speaker 2: To be aware of those.
Speaker 1: I don't think these ones are gonna command the obscene
Speaker 1: prices because the cards aren't as good, but we'll we'll
Speaker 1: see where that goes. I think that's where you can
Speaker 1: get all of the different things in the set. I think, hope,
Speaker 1: because there's so many different things. And then there's another
Speaker 1: one where like there's little hands and shadows and stuff
Speaker 1: drawn on the back of the cards.
Speaker 2: I haven't quite fuyeah.
Speaker 3: Super Smash Bros. Was a freaking magic set like that, no.
Speaker 2: Less, more subtle, more subtle, rude.
Speaker 3: Oh man, you know what, there's there's a card that
Speaker 3: cares at how much of a discount you get on
Speaker 3: on stuff that you cast for free?
Speaker 1: Oh man, that card is gonna just yeah because it's
Speaker 1: black oh man.
Speaker 3: And you know what, I don't even I don't even
Speaker 3: remember what card that is.
Speaker 2: But you know what else is black? Ryan? What is
Speaker 2: Molas has said it?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. I was thinking all the free counter spells
Speaker 3: that you could play, and like deadly rollick and deflecting
Speaker 3: swad and everything from masks that's like, oh, return this
Speaker 3: mountain to your hand, or if you control a forest,
Speaker 3: I can play this for free. I was thinking all
Speaker 3: of those. Oh no, I'm also thinking of the new
Speaker 3: cycle of lay lines in this set. When do we
Speaker 3: get to the point, because you know that we've done
Speaker 3: the no land deck, we've done the all land deck.
Speaker 3: When do we get to the point where CCO just
Speaker 3: does everything in the freaking deck is free, nothing costs
Speaker 3: any man? Can we do that yet, send us a
Speaker 3: list somebody. I'm willing to do it, and I would
Speaker 3: build that deck.
Speaker 2: I bet we probably could do it, now, I'll bet
Speaker 2: we can. It wouldn't be good. Do we could do it?
Speaker 3: And here's the caveat? And usually when I put stuff
Speaker 3: like this as riders, you tell me the answer is no.
Speaker 3: But if we cast a card and it goes man
Speaker 3: a positive, like a piratic ritual or like a dark ritual,
Speaker 3: it'lls count no. Oh no, okay. They have to wall free,
Speaker 3: free leg lay lines, and if you control your commander
Speaker 3: it's free.
Speaker 2: Oh you got any pregame actions?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 3: You have my whole hand? How many cards you have
Speaker 3: in your hand? Zero? Zero? What turn is it? One?
Speaker 3: What is this vintage?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? And one of the cards in play is
Speaker 2: a land at taps for a man of any color?
Speaker 3: Oh man?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So good, so good. So do you feel any better
Speaker 3: about Dusk one?
Speaker 2: I feel the same way.
Speaker 1: Okay, But but I am, like, I'm excited to get
Speaker 1: my hands on some of the specific cards in the set.
Speaker 2: There's some really cool stuff here.
Speaker 1: I think a little preview for next week. I do
Speaker 1: think there might be another Mono red deck being added.
Speaker 2: To the rotation.
Speaker 1: Whoa Home Mama, No red deck left behind just became
Speaker 1: the whole fact.
Speaker 3: How are we doing on time? Their producer Gary forty minutes? Okay, perfect?
Speaker 3: I have a couple things, Okay, okay, strengths and weaknesses.
Speaker 3: What Yeah, Typically we don't do this when we're talking
Speaker 3: about a set.
Speaker 2: This is new, but hey.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm into this set. I had some extra time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: all right, so strength strength, top down design. They always
Speaker 3: do top down, but they don't really they don't. There's
Speaker 3: a theme. But compare something like Ravnica, which is like,
Speaker 3: we know what ravnik is and they give us stuff
Speaker 3: that fits into how Ravnica is versus in Astrad, where
Speaker 3: it's like we had this idea or this concept and
Speaker 3: we built everything to fit into this concept.
Speaker 2: Right, okay? Sure? True?
Speaker 3: Top down always a hit with players. True, And I
Speaker 3: think this feels kind of like the kind of set
Speaker 3: that is evocative looking and interesting enough looking where people
Speaker 3: are going to say, hey, what's that thing, what's that
Speaker 3: thing on the shelf there, and the LGS owner is
Speaker 3: going to say, that's the newest magic set is called
Speaker 3: Dusk Morn. It's all about like horror and it's like
Speaker 3: Magic's modern take on the horror trope or the horror
Speaker 3: genre in set form. Lots of people really like it.
Speaker 3: I think that that's gonna be the vibe of this set.
Speaker 2: I hope, so, I hope that would be nice.
Speaker 4: I would like that too, Okay, strength Strength, Yeah, new
Speaker 4: twist on a few things that we really love, like
Speaker 4: Morph and Enchantress and very radical looking showcases for those
Speaker 4: who do like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go. I knew that you like that.
Speaker 2: I like cards that don't look like Magic cards. That
Speaker 2: is true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again, I this might be the set. I'm
Speaker 3: not ready to commit yet, but it might be the
Speaker 3: set that does make me build a morph deck. You
Speaker 3: think you think.
Speaker 2: Would you do it out of an animals? Have two
Speaker 2: animal decks?
Speaker 3: I don't know, because there are specific morph commanders right
Speaker 3: like Kadina.
Speaker 2: They're just but they're not as good as Animal.
Speaker 3: Well, no, when you when you put it.
Speaker 1: That way, the second best in anything, Ryan, I suppose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I say you build animalorphs and play it.
Speaker 3: In the scene animalrphs, and then I have a second
Speaker 3: animal animal deck where I paint every card to make
Speaker 3: it look like the animal orph book covers where it's
Speaker 3: those kids that change into animals and the funniest one
Speaker 3: where their half kid half animal is always the funniest one. Yes,
Speaker 3: the guy with the duck.
Speaker 1: Beak, Yeah, that's super funny left behind me.
Speaker 3: The cover had a at a thing cut out, so
Speaker 3: you like showed the animal on the inside cover or whatever.
Speaker 3: Remember that. I do Scholastic book orders. Did they Did
Speaker 3: they have those the United States?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I maybe probably they probably have. Do you ever roll
Speaker 3: into the book order like twenty dollars bill and be like, yeah, fuck,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna buy I'm gonna buy two Lamborghini posters, a
Speaker 3: pack of pencils with Batman symbols on them, and like
Speaker 3: an ice By book. Bitches, what do you guys got?
Speaker 2: No? I never did that.
Speaker 3: I didn't die there, but you could tell I fantasized
Speaker 3: about doing it.
Speaker 2: You wanted to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lamborghini kun tash baby.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know what that is. Weaknesses?
Speaker 3: Weaknesses? Did they spread themselves too thin and try to
Speaker 3: like get a little bit of coverage and be a
Speaker 3: jack of all trades master of none?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: And did they do that like from a tropy kind
Speaker 3: of top down design standpoint? Yes, or did they try
Speaker 3: to fit too many abilities and kind of a diversity
Speaker 3: of stuff.
Speaker 2: And they tried to put too much look over here,
Speaker 2: look over here, look over here, look over here.
Speaker 1: And it took away from what the the story of
Speaker 1: it was trying to be and the theme of it
Speaker 1: was trying to be, and it ended up just kind
Speaker 1: of being a mess of references. It's the it's the
Speaker 1: big Bang theory of top down design where they just
Speaker 1: reference something and that stands in for big bang theory
Speaker 1: comedy where they go don't you know the flash m
Speaker 1: And then in this set it's like don't you know
Speaker 1: Children of the Corn bro And it's like, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: That yeah, right, that does make sense. Wait until we
Speaker 3: get the magic sitcom set.
Speaker 1: Hey, holy flying God, damn, I will I will shit
Speaker 1: and to toil it and clean it up and wash
Speaker 1: my hands and then do the show and talk about
Speaker 1: how much I hate it.
Speaker 2: That's what I'll do.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmmm.
Speaker 2: As soon as we see Rachel on the couch, I'll
Speaker 2: be like, get out of here, Rachel on the couch,
Speaker 2: because you know that card is gonna be so broken.
Speaker 1: It'll probably be like what Red four Indestructible one one
Speaker 1: probably a goblin.
Speaker 3: You think Rachel Green's a red card, Well, it probably
Speaker 3: would be. What if Rachel Green was a one one
Speaker 3: with indestructible okay, and could tap to fight another creature
Speaker 3: and whenever it took damage, dealt that much damage to
Speaker 3: an opponent, I would play it.
Speaker 1: I would if only I know, if only a card
Speaker 1: like that could exist, so I don't have to get
Speaker 1: Rachel Green the card.
Speaker 3: Okay, good, Well, topic penetration is what I call it, right,
Speaker 3: and you feel as though they didn't. They skimmed instead
Speaker 3: of they jumped off instead of penetrated.
Speaker 1: They jumped off a really tall building and as they
Speaker 1: were going down, instead of making themselves all point is
Speaker 1: that they use the force to drive themselves into the ground.
Speaker 1: They did a belly flop and just smushed themselves over
Speaker 1: the sidewalk.
Speaker 3: Oh, smushed themselves into a pancake. But it's a mile wide.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's real big, real thin pancake, real big. So
Speaker 2: he gets everything. Everybody's grossed out by it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like they're doing too much.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's just my Again, that's just my opinion.
Speaker 3: But you know what if I think if we didn't
Speaker 3: get a set every month, right, If we could live
Speaker 3: with this set for three months or four months like
Speaker 3: we used to be able to, you know, like when
Speaker 3: there was three sets plus a core set per year. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if we could live with this set for three months,
Speaker 3: that would either solve this problem and let us appreciate
Speaker 3: this or make us say something like, oh, hey, that's
Speaker 3: what that's from. I didn't know that that movie, or
Speaker 3: or you know, you read an article from whoever on
Speaker 3: Watsee's website that says like Unwanted Remake was actually this
Speaker 3: designer talking about this movie. Oh interesting, now I know
Speaker 3: the story right. It would it would either accomplish that
Speaker 3: or and this is the flip side, is if we
Speaker 3: lived with it for four months, it'd be like, oh,
Speaker 3: they really did skim and there's nothing here.
Speaker 2: Of any frickin' value. Can you imagine if we had
Speaker 2: to live with three months with thunder Junction? Can you
Speaker 2: imagine that?
Speaker 3: Hey, man, I said my piece on thunder Junction. Now
Speaker 3: we have aliens. I want cowboys versus aliens, watseea.
Speaker 2: And maybe we'll get that.
Speaker 3: It took me eight years, eight years. It's been eighty
Speaker 3: seven years insert Titanic lady meme for me to get
Speaker 3: the Cowboy set and then it was a fricking train heist.
Speaker 2: Well, I need to set. It was a train heist
Speaker 2: story that happened to have cowboys acts.
Speaker 3: It's fine, you know what I wish we had. Maybe
Speaker 3: maybe Aiden will do like a special edition Christmas Commander
Speaker 3: Munchies just from to tell me what this story at
Speaker 3: Thunder Junction was.
Speaker 1: I was actually gonna ask them about that because I
Speaker 1: was thinking about it the other day. Ye man, this
Speaker 1: is so like this set is kind of shallow, and
Speaker 1: it reminds me a lot of Thunder Junctions.
Speaker 2: There's just not a lot.
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like there's much here. And I wish
Speaker 1: I had Aiden back then to explain it to me.
Speaker 2: You, oh, I know now, but now I do. I'm
Speaker 2: because I have an Aiden.
Speaker 3: I know. And Aiden is working on the Commander Munchies.
Speaker 3: That's the shorts on Commander Cookout media group YouTube page.
Speaker 3: That's gonna tell you all about the magic story.
Speaker 2: If you have one minute a day to.
Speaker 3: Learn the magic story, Commander Munchy is how you do it.
Speaker 3: And I just thought of this. Can you say it's
Speaker 3: a house, this other dimensional house? I said, it felt
Speaker 3: little bit Stephen King, little fourteen oh eight. A little bit.
Speaker 3: You say, no, what about thirteen ghosts where they walk in?
Speaker 3: What about the cube where it's like man, you walk
Speaker 3: in and this place is not what I thought it was.
Speaker 3: The cube Cube references in dustmore I make all baby,
Speaker 3: here we go Cube two Hypercube.
Speaker 2: That is what the dusk Worn House is.
Speaker 1: Because you see all those other things you referenced have
Speaker 1: an outside world that when you leave the cube, where
Speaker 1: you leave the house or you escape the thirteen ghosts,
Speaker 1: there's an outside that you get to go to. Dusk
Speaker 1: Morn does not have that, just like in Cube two Hypercube,
Speaker 1: where like the cube was in the fourth dimension, so
Speaker 1: it kept replicating itself, becoming like bigger and.
Speaker 2: Bigger and bigger its.
Speaker 3: Own interdimensional space. This is like the whole okay, and
Speaker 3: this is an aiden question. The whole world is the house? Yes?
Speaker 1: At one point as far as so, what I understand
Speaker 1: is the people on dusk Morn couldn't use magic, so
Speaker 1: they had to make deals with like these demonic forces
Speaker 1: in order to get the power to do magic stuff.
Speaker 1: And they eventually made a deal with the whatever is
Speaker 1: the Vola Goth Yeah, and it like possessed this house
Speaker 1: and became so wrong that it just sucked the whole
Speaker 1: plane inside of it.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, see that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: It's a neat idea. But the only reason I know
Speaker 2: that is because I like delved into the Internet. There's
Speaker 2: no card that tells me that.
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of cards that tell me the opposite
Speaker 1: of that, because there's a bunch of like outside scenes,
Speaker 1: which wouldn't exist because everything's inside the house. How is
Speaker 1: there a camp.
Speaker 2: Outside?
Speaker 3: Like is that a camp Crystal Lake reference?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Oh you see, I'm getting it. Well, I'm getting it, man,
Speaker 3: I'm getting it. Well, listen, Commander Munchies is gonna tell
Speaker 3: us everything we need to know. What you're saying is
Speaker 3: it's not like the nineties YTV show reboot where that
Speaker 3: Purple Cube comes down and they try to escape it,
Speaker 3: because that's a user trying to play a game. It's
Speaker 3: not like that.
Speaker 2: Actually, that's closer than the other stuff that you say.
Speaker 2: Frick here we go.
Speaker 1: Well, no, because it's a the house is a self
Speaker 1: contained thing.
Speaker 2: That's what the house is. It's a self.
Speaker 1: Contained little micro cosm universe. Yes, like the like uh
Speaker 1: like when you go over the event horizon of a
Speaker 1: black hole and everything is in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, this is fricking brandology. One on one. Everybody.
Speaker 2: That's the house.
Speaker 1: Everything that was outside is now inside. Okay, And like
Speaker 1: the time and space dynamics and all those. I got
Speaker 1: some physics we don't, not that kind, but like, just
Speaker 1: everything's in this house.
Speaker 3: Give us that set, Give us that set.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I used to do, like that's that's I used to
Speaker 3: go to school for, like real smart stuff like that
Speaker 3: or anything that ever was.
Speaker 1: Or ever will be, will all exist at the exact
Speaker 1: same time, in the exact same place.
Speaker 2: Let's horizon of the black hole.
Speaker 3: Let's get away from that. I got one final thought
Speaker 3: of the day.
Speaker 2: There should be in a card called the event horizon.
Speaker 1: Man, that would it just blows it kills everything in play,
Speaker 1: and then just put your whole library in to play.
Speaker 1: There should be a card players put their libraries into
Speaker 1: play all at once.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh man, there should be the car called the
Speaker 3: black hole. And it's just a picture of your mother's
Speaker 3: huge ass. Yes, that is a gift for anybody who's
Speaker 3: still watching. And just a fly buzzing really hard to
Speaker 3: get away, but he can't get in. He's getting sucked
Speaker 3: and got speed lines, but they're going against him because
Speaker 3: speed lines are totally directional.
Speaker 2: Right, absolutely they are. That's friend, al.
Speaker 3: I got one final thought of the day before you
Speaker 3: thank the business daddies and do the outdra Okay, I
Speaker 3: want this. Okay, give me this secret layer or set
Speaker 3: or whatever I talked about reboot. Give me like the
Speaker 3: nineties YTV secret layer. Give me, give me the zone
Speaker 3: with that TV with his mouth that looks like teeth snit.
Speaker 2: Give me he's made a bubble gum.
Speaker 3: Yes, give me the are you fraid of the Dark
Speaker 3: secret Layer? Ooh yeah, like Doctor Vink and mister Sardo,
Speaker 3: yeah right, and the Campfire and the Midnight Society. Give
Speaker 3: me that frickin' secret Layer.
Speaker 2: That'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 3: That'd be pretty cool. Give me the nineties nostalgia like
Speaker 3: mixed tape with the pencil to rewind it and the
Speaker 3: Blockbuster movie store. Give me riding your bikes to get
Speaker 3: pizza by the slice on like the Monday that you
Speaker 3: don't have to go to school, or early dismissal when
Speaker 3: your parents aren't home yet. Fuck yeah, give me that
Speaker 3: secret Layer.
Speaker 1: I feel like they tried to do it with Stranger Things,
Speaker 1: and we hated it.
Speaker 3: And they also tried to give us some nostalgia with
Speaker 3: the goblins that are on Instagram, but I don't know, man,
Speaker 3: Blockbuster and and are You Afraid of the Dark that
Speaker 3: hits a little bit different. Did they hit give me
Speaker 3: the McDonald's with the frickin' burger chairs and Grimace and
Speaker 3: all of like mc cheese. Yeah, and the hamburglaar yep,
Speaker 3: yeah man. Anyways, final thoughts of the day.
Speaker 1: Hang on a second, did they have Are You Afraid
Speaker 1: of the Dark at America?
Speaker 3: Yes, I've asked this question before, I think on CEO.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, okay, answer it again in the comments.
Speaker 3: Please do.
Speaker 2: I'm very curious because I like that show. Can watch
Speaker 2: them all on YouTube if you never heard of it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it is on there for free.
Speaker 1: So final thought. That is our top down, ten thousand
Speaker 1: foot overview of Dusk one. We're gonna be back next week.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about some legends, We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: some cards. We're gonna talk about some frickin' Commander decks
Speaker 1: once those get more spoiled, because I mean they're totally
Speaker 1: spoiled now being Tuesday, the next week, seventeenth, because we're
Speaker 1: totally not recording before that for any reason.
Speaker 3: Nope.
Speaker 2: So all those things are true, but we're gonna be
Speaker 2: back to review some of that stuff.
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