Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we
Speaker 1: left off talking about Glenn Dubin. What makes the Dubin
Speaker 1: Epstein relationship even more revolting is how public it was
Speaker 1: within their social circles. These weren't just shadowy backroom meetings.
Speaker 1: This was dinner party normalcy, yacht outings, and holiday gatherings
Speaker 1: in the rarefied Manhattan. Said people saw it, talked about it,
Speaker 1: and yet no one with any real influence challenged it. Instead,
Speaker 1: the Dubin's acceptance acted like a green light for everyone
Speaker 1: else who wanted to keep Epstein in their orbit without
Speaker 1: getting their own hands dirty. And Dubin's role wasn't passive either.
Speaker 1: His financial dealings with Epstein weren't just old investments left
Speaker 1: with her. They were maintained after Epstein's release from jail.
Speaker 1: That means someone somewhere had to actively sign off on
Speaker 1: continuing to intermingle assets with the convicted sex offender. In
Speaker 1: the world of high finance, nothing like that happens without
Speaker 1: explicit intent. Even Epstein's philanthropy laundering scheme using intermediaries to
Speaker 1: make donations without his name attached fit neatly into the
Speaker 1: Dubin connection. Eva Andersen Dubin's charity became one such outlet,
Speaker 1: enabling Epstein to maintain a veneer of generosity while sidestepping
Speaker 1: the reputational consequences. In essence, the Duben household wasn't just
Speaker 1: a friend's home to Epstein, it was part of his
Speaker 1: broader pr strategy. When the Virginia Roberts allegations emerged, Glenn
Speaker 1: Dubin's denials followed the predictable billionaire template, a brief, categorical
Speaker 1: and dismissive with no substantative engagements with the facts. But
Speaker 1: for survivors in the public, the more glaring issue was
Speaker 1: how deeply his name kept surfacing in legal filings, as
Speaker 1: if permanently welded to the infrastructure of Epstein's world. This
Speaker 1: wasn't a one off cameo. It was repeated, embedded presence
Speaker 1: and look the rod Here isn't only Dubin's own choices,
Speaker 1: but the ecosystem that enabled them. Other hedge fund titans,
Speaker 1: art world patrons and political donors saalms down by Epstein
Speaker 1: and chose to look the other way. In elite circles,
Speaker 1: moral failure doesn't trigger exile. It becomes a shared secret
Speaker 1: and unspoken agreement that no one will push too hard
Speaker 1: because everyone's rolodex has skeletons. Dubin's ongoing hospitality towards Epstein
Speaker 1: post conviction also undercuts every defense about not knowing the
Speaker 1: full scope of his crimes. By two thousand and nine,
Speaker 1: there was no mystery. Epstein had served time registered as
Speaker 1: a sex offender and had been the subject of extensive
Speaker 1: media coverage continuing the friendship wasn't about ignorance. It was
Speaker 1: about deciding that the crimes didn't outweigh his usefulness or companionship.
Speaker 1: The reported plan Epstein had to marry Selina Dubin wasn't
Speaker 1: some random joke either. It was exactly the kind of
Speaker 1: power play that he used to assert dominance over people
Speaker 1: in his orbit, a way to tether himself to the wealthy,
Speaker 1: influential families. And that this claim didn't trigger a total
Speaker 1: scorched earth severing of ties tells you everything you need
Speaker 1: to know about the mindset in the Duben household at
Speaker 1: the time. Subpoenas from the US Virgin Islands in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty put the Dubin squarely in the investigative's crosshairs. The
Speaker 1: Virgin Islands government wasn't wasting resources chasing irrelevant figures. They
Speaker 1: were targeting people and entities that formed key parts of
Speaker 1: Epstein's post two thousand and eight ecosystem. Glenn Dubin's inclusion
Speaker 1: on that list should have been a scandal in itself,
Speaker 1: yet it barely registered outside of investigative reporting. The quiet
Speaker 1: exit from high Bridge Capital and other public roles after
Speaker 1: Epstein's twenty nineteen arrest wasn't a moral decision, it was
Speaker 1: optics management. By stepping back without making public statements, Dubin
Speaker 1: could avoid the kind of on the record reckoning that
Speaker 1: my generate follow up questions or bind them to a
Speaker 1: position in the playbook of elite damage control. Silence is
Speaker 1: an awkward It's a strategy, and that strategy has worked,
Speaker 1: at least in part. Glen Dubin has avoided the criminal
Speaker 1: charges that have caught others in Epstein's orbit, and the
Speaker 1: public outrage has been diluted by the sheer volume of
Speaker 1: names involved. But in the court of public opinion, especially
Speaker 1: for those who have read the filings and traced the timelines,
Speaker 1: Dubin's years of post conviction friendship with Epstein remained one
Speaker 1: of the most blatant examples of power enabling predation. Now
Speaker 1: we have to talk about Eva Anderson Dubin and her
Speaker 1: connection to Jeffrey Epstein as well. And now it wasn't
Speaker 1: a fleeting social acquaintance either. It was an entanglement that
Speaker 1: stretched decades, long before she married Glen Dubin and long
Speaker 1: after Epstein's first arrest. She had dated Epstein in the
Speaker 1: early eighties, and they remained close afterward, a loyalty that
Speaker 1: persisted throughout his conviction for sex crimes. That's not an
Speaker 1: ordinary amicable ex relationship. That's willful proximity to a man
Speaker 1: who was later proven to be a predator. Even after
Speaker 1: marrying Glen Dubin, Eva kept Epstein in the fold, and
Speaker 1: not in the arm's length obligatory way that some exes
Speaker 1: remained cordial. She corresponded with them, saw them socially, and
Speaker 1: most shockingly, continued to bring them into her family's private spaces.
Speaker 1: It was Eva, after all, who reassured Epstein's probation officer
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine that her family was one
Speaker 1: hundred percent comfortable having them over for Thanksgiving with their children.
Speaker 1: The optics of a former girlfriend turned family friend hosting
Speaker 1: a convicted sex offender at her own table with her
Speaker 1: children present are appalling enough, but when you factor in
Speaker 1: Eva's stature in New York's elite philanthropic scene, it becomes
Speaker 1: even more grotesque. She wasn't some unowned figure who could
Speaker 1: slip under the radar. She was a public presence, a
Speaker 1: patron of the arts and medical causes, consciously lending her
Speaker 1: credibility to someone whose reputation was already in tatters. Her
Speaker 1: breast cancer foundation also became a convenient channel for Epstein's
Speaker 1: philanthropy laundering. Instead of attaching his name to donations, which
Speaker 1: would have triggered outrage and negative press, Epstein gave anonymously
Speaker 1: or through structures designed to hide the source. Eva didn't
Speaker 1: have to accept the money, but she did, and in
Speaker 1: doing so, she allowed him to keep buying his way
Speaker 1: back into polite society. Now. Eva's defenders sometimes framed her
Speaker 1: relationship with Epstein as a product of long standing friendship,
Speaker 1: as though history is a moral shield that logic collapses
Speaker 1: instantly when applied to a sex offender with a known
Speaker 1: history of targeting miners. We've known him for a long
Speaker 1: time is not a defense. It's an admission that the
Speaker 1: ties were so strong that even his conviction couldn't sever them.
Speaker 1: And what's worse is the message this sent to her
Speaker 1: own children and to the elite circle she moved in.
Speaker 1: By normalizing epstein presence in their lives post conviction, Eva
Speaker 1: modeled the idea that wealth, power, and personal loyalty are
Speaker 1: more important than the moralligned drawn at child's sexual abuse.
Speaker 1: And we're not just talking about bad judgment. We're talking
Speaker 1: about a corrosive pretense of ethical leadership in the philanthropic
Speaker 1: world that she inhabited. Her long strange loyalty to Epstein
Speaker 1: also gave him something he desperately needed, the ability to
Speaker 1: appoint to a respectable woman who vouched for him in
Speaker 1: the wake of his conviction. When others avoided him publicly,
Speaker 1: eva continued acceptance acted like a character reference in the
Speaker 1: court of public opinion for a predator trying to rebuild
Speaker 1: his network. That kind of validation was priceless. Even after
Speaker 1: Epstein's twenty nineteen arrest, when the scale of his crimes
Speaker 1: became impossible to dismiss, report surfaced about the depth of
Speaker 1: his relationship with the Dubin family. Eva's passed as his
Speaker 1: girlfriend and her post conviction friendship were suddenly on avoidable headlines.
Speaker 1: Yet she, like her husband, opted for minimal public engagement.
Speaker 1: No extended explanation, no full throated condemnation, just damage control.
Speaker 1: It's also telling that Epstein reportedly considered marrying Selena Dubin,
Speaker 1: Eva's daughter. While some dismiss this as another of Epstein's
Speaker 1: manipulative fantasies, the fact that it was plausible enough to
Speaker 1: report underscores just how intimately entwined he remained with the family,
Speaker 1: and how Eva's own comfort with him helped maintain that
Speaker 1: entanglement at its core. Eva Anderson Dubin's long, weird relationship
Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Epstein isn't just about bad optics. It's about
Speaker 1: how deep personal loyalty can curdle into moral blindness. She
Speaker 1: had every reason to shut the door on him permanently
Speaker 1: after two thousand and eight. Instead, she kept it wide open,
Speaker 1: and in doing so, she helped give a convicted predator
Speaker 1: the social oxygen he needed to keep moving in the
Speaker 1: highest circles. By the time Epstein was arrested again in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, the Dubins had already spent a decade providing
Speaker 1: them with the kind of high society cover he couldn't
Speaker 1: buy anywhere else. And it wasn't an act of charity.
Speaker 1: It was an act of complicity, the deliberate choice to
Speaker 1: keep a convicted sex offender in their lives, their home,
Speaker 1: and their public image. Their loyalty to Epstein gave them
Speaker 1: what no PR firm or crisis manager could, the endorsement
Speaker 1: of an influential, respectable couple who refused to treat him
Speaker 1: like a pariah he should have been. Even after twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: Their strategy wasn't to denounce them or express regret. It
Speaker 1: was to retreat quietly, to avoid on camera reckonings, to
Speaker 1: let lawyers and spokespeople drip feed sanitize denials. Glenn stepped
Speaker 1: away from public face of his hedge fund. Eva slipped
Speaker 1: deeper into the background of her philanthropy, but neither offered
Speaker 1: the kind of candid, soul searching public accounting that would
Speaker 1: have shown even a shred of responsibility for the role
Speaker 1: they played in Epstein's rehabilitation tour. In many ways, their
Speaker 1: silence has been as damning as any direct statement could be.
Speaker 1: The Dubans never use their platform to condemn Epstein's crimes
Speaker 1: to side publicly with the survivors. They never explain why
Speaker 1: their family dinners and holiday gatherings include a registered sex offender.
Speaker 1: They never walk the public through their thinking because doing
Speaker 1: so would require them to admit just how indefensible their
Speaker 1: actions were. This is the blueprint for elite crisis management,
Speaker 1: weighted out bank on short memory of the new cycle,
Speaker 1: and trust that the public outrage will eventually be drowned
Speaker 1: out by the next scandal. It often works, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't erase the history or the fact that their choices
Speaker 1: directly contributed to Epstein's ability to remain in circulation, meet
Speaker 1: new people, and sustain the illusion of legitimacy. It's also
Speaker 1: a reminder of how predators like Epstein thrive not because
Speaker 1: their masterminds off operating alone, but because they're propped up
Speaker 1: by people who should know better. Without enablers like the Dubin's,
Speaker 1: Epstein's reach would have been drastically reduced after two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight. They didn't just fail to close the door
Speaker 1: on them, they opened it wider and for years, the
Speaker 1: Dubin household, with its wealth status and deep rolodex was
Speaker 1: the perfect showroom for Epstein's rehabilitation. A man who should
Speaker 1: have been a social outcast was instead enjoying Thanksgiving in
Speaker 1: one of Manhattan's most rarefied homes, breaking bread with a
Speaker 1: family that carried both Wall Street and philanthropic cloud. That
Speaker 1: single fact tells you everything you need to know about
Speaker 1: the skewed moral compass at play, and look, it's hard
Speaker 1: to overstate the damage this kind of elite endorsement does
Speaker 1: the public perception. For every potential ally who might have
Speaker 1: thought twice about associating with Epstein after his conviction, seeing
Speaker 1: him embraced by people like Lenn and Eva Dubin sent
Speaker 1: the opposite message that money, status, and personal loyalty can
Speaker 1: neutralize even the ugliest of crimes. When Epstein finally died
Speaker 1: in federal custody, the Dubans lost the one person whose
Speaker 1: presence in their lives will forever stand their names. But
Speaker 1: death didn't erase the paper trail, the subpoenas, the testimonies,
Speaker 1: the allegations, or the photographs that placed them firmly in
Speaker 1: his orbit. Their chapter in Epstein's saga is permanent, no
Speaker 1: matter how much they or their lawyers wish it could
Speaker 1: be scrubbed. Survivors of Epstein's abuse have every right to
Speaker 1: look at the Dubans and see not just friends of
Speaker 1: the predator, but facilitators of his post conviction survival. Their
Speaker 1: year's long relationship with them after two thousand and eight
Speaker 1: wasn't just a lapse in judgment. It was a signal
Speaker 1: to the world that his crimes could be forgiven or
Speaker 1: ignored in the right company. And look, the Dubans weren't
Speaker 1: bystanders swept up and someone else's scandal. There were active
Speaker 1: participants in the social rehabilitation and accused, at least Glenn Dubin,
Speaker 1: of partaking in the abuse itself of one of the
Speaker 1: most notorious predators of our time. They chose to protect them,
Speaker 1: to stand beside them, to keep them welcomed in their home,
Speaker 1: and by doing so, they crossed a line they can
Speaker 1: never uncross. The damage that they enabled can't be undone,
Speaker 1: and their names will forever be a footnote in the
Speaker 1: story of how Jeffrey Epstein kept his world intact long
Speaker 1: after the rest of us knew exactly what he was.
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