Speaker 1: Welcome to Jeff Jeff Bizarre Adventure, the only anime podcast
Speaker 1: on the Internet. To my left, it's Lucy James Games.
Speaker 2: Hello, everyone, Good morning, good evening, good night, wherever you're
Speaker 2: listening from.
Speaker 1: To my right, coming at us with all the energy
Speaker 1: of a thousand exploding universes, it's Jeff Smith.
Speaker 3: Hello. That's right, Jeff Smith is the name that you've
Speaker 3: come to know, love and remember. Thank you for having
Speaker 3: me on the show. I'm a big fan and I
Speaker 3: can't wait to talk about Well, there's a lot to
Speaker 3: talk about. Perhaps I'll let you introduce everyone else on
Speaker 3: the podcast. First.
Speaker 1: There John.
Speaker 3: Higgins, Walsh, Oh Walsh, Sorry.
Speaker 1: Sitting directly across from me. He's a little sick. He's
Speaker 1: a little sad. It doesn't matter, because we're about to
Speaker 1: have the greatest podcast episode of all time. It's to
Speaker 1: more sane.
Speaker 4: Oh guys, fine, It is only fitting that this.
Speaker 3: These couple of episodes are the most Corcus heavy episodes
Speaker 3: in the history.
Speaker 1: The Corcus fandom is eating well with these episodes.
Speaker 3: Yes, but I have another thing I need to bring
Speaker 3: to the group. I have been assaulted through the postal service.
Speaker 3: What what listen to this? Communicate that I received not
Speaker 3: four days ago. Okay, it is written in chicken scratch
Speaker 3: by someone undeserving of having their bullshit red on this
Speaker 3: fine podcast. But nevertheless, we will trudge through the sludge. Hello, Jeff,
Speaker 3: stop impersonating me? Or I will kill you? Did you
Speaker 3: hear what I said?
Speaker 1: I kill you?
Speaker 3: And it's signed Corcus?
Speaker 1: My god, let us.
Speaker 3: All equally, let us all equally shriek in horror, and
Speaker 3: then then the nerve of this faceless coward to send
Speaker 3: along a creepy little statuette of Carcus.
Speaker 5: That looks very small. It was unclear on the listing
Speaker 5: it was that small.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to know more about is that much bigger?
Speaker 3: His entire body can come off too?
Speaker 5: My god, Wow, are you sure you just haven't broken it?
Speaker 3: No, it's just like a little lego piece if it's
Speaker 3: right in. Yeah, he's got a ship eating grin on
Speaker 3: his face there.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, look at that.
Speaker 1: That's anyway, if you can play his Corcus in a
Speaker 1: Band of the Hawk the Berserk Musso game.
Speaker 5: I don't know, you must be able to?
Speaker 1: We should we should we find that out. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: there's three games, Lucy, and one of them is way
Speaker 1: better than it has a right to be. And no, no, no,
Speaker 1: one's fine. The PlayStation to one has just a shocking
Speaker 1: amount of loaf put into it, and it's really fun.
Speaker 1: Like the Dreamcast one's interesting because it's a story written
Speaker 1: by Mura, but it does play like ass a little bit.
Speaker 1: I know people are going to push back against that
Speaker 1: because it is kind of beloved, but come on, guys,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit ass and there's cool things about it.
Speaker 3: Why have we overlooked the fact that somebody has has
Speaker 3: gotten my mailing address? The return address says the band
Speaker 3: of the Hawk.
Speaker 6: Does it say there's no way to look that up? Midland?
Speaker 3: It's it's it's Midland, California.
Speaker 1: Sometimes, Jeff, Jeff, you gave me your address a long
Speaker 1: time ago, and for you know, private purposes that people
Speaker 1: don't need to know.
Speaker 3: That's our business.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally. Sometimes when people ask me for my address, uh,
Speaker 1: I don't want to create anmfortable moments, so I give
Speaker 1: them yours. Yeah, did you started doing that or is
Speaker 1: that No, it's been a couple of years. It's been
Speaker 1: a couple of years, and I've given it out maybe
Speaker 1: twenty times, but like not in an unsafe way.
Speaker 2: I do email on email lists, so if you've noticed
Speaker 2: an uptick.
Speaker 6: There, then that's on mek.
Speaker 3: Hmm, thank you guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course what this band of the whole game
Speaker 5: is still sixty dollars. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: I'd say, at one point in time it went down
Speaker 1: to twenty and now is back up to sixty.
Speaker 5: Yeah, seemed like it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think, uh, maybe we drop a little
Speaker 1: content warning here at the start of the episode.
Speaker 5: Not playable. It's not playable. Storry got fifth cosca Judo's
Speaker 5: and some characters that we haven't made yet.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, understandable.
Speaker 5: Apologies thing A're very serious.
Speaker 1: That is okay, Tom. So yeah, Berserk is a heavy
Speaker 1: series and sometimes it delves into some heavy shit and
Speaker 1: we encounter some some pretty uncomfortable stuff this episode, namely,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of sexual salt, lack of consense stuff.
Speaker 1: So I just want to give people a warning here
Speaker 1: going forward, we're going to be discussing that a little
Speaker 1: bit in the second episode. So if you are sensitive
Speaker 1: to that stuff, just pursued with caution. Okay, stay well, guys,
Speaker 1: you got to take care of yourselves. But that is
Speaker 1: to say, completely unrelated to everything I just said, what
Speaker 1: a fantastic pair of episodes. Holy fucking shit, Am I right?
Speaker 5: Yep?
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean a lot, a lot going on, a
Speaker 1: lot happening, a.
Speaker 3: Lot happening a real like a real sort of like
Speaker 3: looking under the hood, you know, because I feel like
Speaker 3: so much is Yeah, like a lot is just changing
Speaker 3: a short amount of episodical time.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Might be this might be just first exposure to a
Speaker 5: classic anime trope or trope I guess, like formatting the
Speaker 5: time skip, which happens in a lot of anime.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about the swords that made the sunrise?
Speaker 5: This happens a lot in shown in anime. Like there's
Speaker 5: usually a period of time where, for some reason in
Speaker 5: anime and manga, they decide, all right, we're going to
Speaker 5: skip forward like five years now, and all the characters
Speaker 5: get to come back with brand new outfits, looking a
Speaker 5: little bit older, new style, refresh the merchandise line a
Speaker 5: little hotter. But in this case, it's just it doesn't
Speaker 5: have that same function, but you do get to experience
Speaker 5: a time skip, which can be jarry.
Speaker 1: But I think what's kind of interesting, Jeff is like
Speaker 1: one of the things I really love over Berserk is
Speaker 1: you can really divide it into like specific periods and not.
Speaker 1: It's not always like time. Sometimes it's just like who
Speaker 1: Guts is with, or like what's happening in the world
Speaker 1: at that moment, and you kind of like I remember
Speaker 1: watching this for the first time and getting to this
Speaker 1: point and being like, no, I want Guts to stay
Speaker 1: with the Band of Hawk, because that's I like that,
Speaker 1: it's fun, and I like these characters, and I want
Speaker 1: this to keep going and it's kind of cool because
Speaker 1: like that's how they feel. But it's like it's over
Speaker 1: and it's like that time's kind of gone now and
Speaker 1: things are very different, and it it feels weird, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it is a weird time in this sort
Speaker 3: of story, and you know, I don't know, like I
Speaker 3: guess I also didn't realize what like we obviously have
Speaker 3: a thing of like what's next, right like and I
Speaker 3: and I don't know if I was prepared for like
Speaker 3: this next chapter. And so much time is spent leading
Speaker 3: up to where the Band of the Hawk was at
Speaker 3: the beginning of these two episodes, and it seems like
Speaker 3: an incredible, you know, an incredible amount of development has
Speaker 3: transpired where it's like, oh, now it's something else that
Speaker 3: you didn't even think about. It's this is a whole
Speaker 3: other thing. Now it's cool, It's it's really really interesting.
Speaker 3: I again, like the last four episodes have kept me
Speaker 3: engaged in a way that I was not expecting. There's
Speaker 3: some real, real impressive drama here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's fantastic. But I guess before like we
Speaker 1: get into everything, we kind of got to start at
Speaker 1: the beginning here. And basically this is just after that
Speaker 1: Kaska has stopped Guts walking away and she brings him
Speaker 1: back to a bar, and we get more caucus than
Speaker 1: you could ever ever hope for.
Speaker 2: I think this is more caucus than we've seen so far.
Speaker 2: Just in one situation, my man at the.
Speaker 1: Bar, he's he's risen up a lady. Yes, it's it's
Speaker 1: just so much.
Speaker 3: I he almost It's just I was embarrassed for him.
Speaker 3: Let's just say that I didn't he had to shut up.
Speaker 1: You know, you know what you got to do, buddy.
Speaker 3: I'm honestly ashamed. I don't think.
Speaker 5: You received a note. He received a note, So.
Speaker 3: I received a note as well. My life has been threatened, so.
Speaker 1: I'll dedicate if you can't let them win, you can't
Speaker 1: let them win, you're right if you're right. If I
Speaker 1: do that, if they start kow telling to demands nail.
Speaker 5: For you know, it will be doing a series on
Speaker 5: one piece.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 3: I guess what upsets me is is the nerve that
Speaker 3: he demonstrates. It's thinking that Gods is just some chump.
Speaker 3: Where does he find that?
Speaker 6: Where does he get get off?
Speaker 1: So he comes in a little bit. But I guess
Speaker 1: one detail I really love is when Judo's kind of like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, Corcus used to be a leader too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like fuck, okay, wow, that that is interesting. And
Speaker 1: it's like I can't imagine Corcus leading his own little
Speaker 1: banded crew.
Speaker 2: Now I feel like he maybe wasn't popular. Oh, also,
Speaker 2: hang on, we kind of went past it. So I
Speaker 2: was watching this one with the English dub. It's for
Speaker 2: a little change, And there was a point where Judo
Speaker 2: sounds irish and then is never irish again, like the
Speaker 2: bit where yeah, the bit in the when they're outside
Speaker 2: and you know, Caucus, Judo and Guts go to the
Speaker 2: bar and they leave Cascio behind. Judo says something and
Speaker 2: it's fully with an Irish accent, and then I feel
Speaker 2: like the actor. The actor is just like, well, I'm
Speaker 2: not doing that again. You know that was that was
Speaker 2: a little one That was a little one off.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 6: And then because the whole time I was like.
Speaker 1: Huh interesting, Okay, I'm watching the scene now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's what he says, like, come on.
Speaker 1: Or something, Guys, I've checked the footage and Lucy is
Speaker 1: one hundred percent right. Judo goes Irish for two lines
Speaker 1: randomly in episode nineteen for some reason, and then never
Speaker 1: does it again, never ever again. It was so slight.
Speaker 1: Well it's not slight, actually, I think my brain just
Speaker 1: didn't pick up on it because it's just those two
Speaker 1: lines and then it's gone. So he comes into the
Speaker 1: scene and he goes, oh, which I you know, I
Speaker 1: mean if I've lost count of how many times I've
Speaker 1: said away to you three right, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know if you've done it to me.
Speaker 1: Well, well I guess well, you know you.
Speaker 3: You hide your your your culture when you're around me.
Speaker 3: This is what I mean.
Speaker 1: Then he says the line, well, Jeff, that that's massively insulting.
Speaker 3: But moving on, he says, to be fair, Corcus is
Speaker 3: being a piece of shit at this point, right, he's he's,
Speaker 3: he's just sort of like you over there.
Speaker 1: Just just to close the loop on the Irish Judo,
Speaker 1: because I'm really fascinated here. He says, please give us
Speaker 1: your company for just a moment, just so people know
Speaker 1: I was doing an accent there. That wasn't just me talking.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. You're good at that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, your Irish actor is pretty solid, thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think if I did an actual Irish accent, most
Speaker 1: people wouldn't understand what I was saying.
Speaker 3: Well, it's sort of like the Lucy thing where Lucy
Speaker 3: this whole time is putting it on you know, she
Speaker 3: went right, like when you speak in your normal dialect,
Speaker 3: it's indecipherable, right, it's just sort of some Yeah, It's
Speaker 3: just it's like, who is this person? Yeah, fake Judo's
Speaker 3: sort of doing a similar thing maybe, and uh, in
Speaker 3: a time of weakness and vulnerability it came out, which
Speaker 3: is understandable.
Speaker 1: We've been hearing his podcast right his telephone. You've got it.
Speaker 1: You've got it exactly, Jeff. When I when I'm like
Speaker 1: doing my impression of you to Michelle, I really like
Speaker 1: lean into the kind of New Jersey aspect of it.
Speaker 1: When you do an impression of me to Michelle, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: what does it sound like? It's kind of like it's
Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, my name's Jeff. What's going on? Everybody?
Speaker 5: That is uncanny? Holy shi? It was that Jeff talking
Speaker 5: was like vent.
Speaker 1: To the listener. That was me talking, not Jeff.
Speaker 5: Did you see vent qui?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the ventrilo queen or what is the ventriloquism?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Brilliant, brilliant, tam. Do you have
Speaker 1: anything you'd like me to say in Jeff's voice, like
Speaker 1: anything I wanted to hear from him?
Speaker 5: Can you say I love cats more than dogs.
Speaker 1: Hey, it's me Jeff Bakala, and I love cats more
Speaker 1: than dogs.
Speaker 6: That was like it was seamless.
Speaker 5: I really like the hand movements, like you're moving both
Speaker 5: hands up and down like you're juggling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know the way Jeff kind of Okay,
Speaker 1: let's gesticulate. Imagine when Jeff talks, he kind of talks
Speaker 1: like he's a puppet and the people have strings attached
Speaker 1: to his wrists and they kind of yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: A bit of a marionette complex I have.
Speaker 6: The muppet.
Speaker 5: Would you be, Jeff. There is a glass case for
Speaker 5: lot of figures that look like anime figures.
Speaker 1: No, only one of them's anime.
Speaker 5: Okay, what else is in there?
Speaker 3: I got a couple nineteen eighty nine Batman things.
Speaker 5: I don't care about that.
Speaker 3: I thought you were spikes eagle an Yeah, I said,
Speaker 3: only when the No, Yeah, okay, I'm here, Not there, idiot,
Speaker 3: Jesus Corcus.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry going for the throat there. I just I'm.
Speaker 3: Embarrassed to do him because he's such a womanizer. He's
Speaker 3: just like I only have thirst for women. Now that
Speaker 3: battle is over, it's just so bad and fuck you
Speaker 3: guts one trick pony, bitch.
Speaker 5: You just need not telling you not to do this,
Speaker 5: and you're still.
Speaker 3: A meat head with a sword on't you? All you
Speaker 3: do is kill well I can rise. Oh God, Corcus.
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe character that I nevernue I wanted but I
Speaker 5: need more of.
Speaker 3: Maybe Carcus is the bad guy all along. I don't know, Jeff,
Speaker 3: I think you need to do what me and Lucy do.
Speaker 1: I think like Jeff, Bacolar is kind of your your
Speaker 1: indoor persona, and Riz Corcus is the new you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I can't I can't be Riz Cork.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing limiting you. Look, just okay, do
Speaker 1: me a favorite, Jeff joined to me one little favor.
Speaker 3: I'll do you a big favor.
Speaker 6: When you're at dinner with the fan tonight.
Speaker 1: Just just bust it out. Just go into it and
Speaker 1: see if see if, see how they gore and.
Speaker 5: Film it, film it.
Speaker 3: They will not care. They will be like dad's doing
Speaker 3: dumb ship again. Let's keep watching gravity falls. That's what
Speaker 3: the That's what they'll say.
Speaker 1: So Corcus here is like he's pissed at goods, but
Speaker 1: he's pisted goods for like a very specific reason in
Speaker 1: that he's like, hey, this is good enough for me.
Speaker 1: I have risen higher than I ever should be able to.
Speaker 1: And you're harsh. We heard it, we all heard it.
Speaker 6: Immediately regretted the choice.
Speaker 1: They're gonna They're gonna descend on this like vultures on
Speaker 1: a carcass and I had left myself open. I can't
Speaker 1: deny how good that wordplay was.
Speaker 3: It's pretty good.
Speaker 6: And it's nine o'clock in the morning. You know, imagine
Speaker 6: what is going to come out of me? Ten am.
Speaker 6: I can't even well, I've just had a coffee, so
Speaker 6: I think you can.
Speaker 1: And Guts is kind of like, hey, listen, I just
Speaker 1: want to find my own fucking dream. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be part of someone else's. We then get an
Speaker 1: extremely beautiful painted illustration of Griffith. I think the person
Speaker 1: who does these is the same person does the background art.
Speaker 1: God damn. Yeah, probably like a master of their craft,
Speaker 1: like Jesus. Yeah. Oh.
Speaker 6: So the thing is is that I was watching.
Speaker 2: Another thing that God says at this point is like
Speaker 2: he wants to see He wants to be by Griffith's side,
Speaker 2: he wants to be as equal. I was watching The
Speaker 2: Queer Ultimatum. Recently one of the couples broke up because
Speaker 2: one of them was like, she makes all the money,
Speaker 2: she bought the house, and I want to be her equal,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna not marry her.
Speaker 1: Oh was that the most recent?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, me and Michelle watched that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she was That couple was strange.
Speaker 1: There's one or two couples on that that. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: something about these two makes me like scared they shouldn't.
Speaker 2: We were watching, we were watching Jen and I and
Speaker 2: we were just yelling break up at every single couple.
Speaker 6: And then like they all got married.
Speaker 3: Like people don't know what to do with their lives whatever.
Speaker 3: For the most part, people are stupid. We all know this, right, Come.
Speaker 1: On, you've never tried to solve a romantic problem like
Speaker 1: going on a reality TV show.
Speaker 2: Chef, a reality TV show where you break up and
Speaker 2: then you have a live in marriage with another person
Speaker 2: for three weeks. Many many times they'll sleep together and
Speaker 2: then they get back together with their original.
Speaker 6: Partners and see if they want to get married.
Speaker 3: But this is my point. My point is if you
Speaker 3: have the ability to air out your life and turn
Speaker 3: it into a farce like that, I just can't take
Speaker 3: you seriously and I don't care what happens to you.
Speaker 1: Damn whoa wow, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like you've decided to, you know, lease out your personal
Speaker 3: life as content in that in the farcical manner in
Speaker 3: which those shows portrayed.
Speaker 2: They don't call them shows, Jeff, they call them experiments.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, a lot of science, a lot of science
Speaker 3: happening there.
Speaker 1: Like he is you. You have wheeled your life into
Speaker 1: clown territory.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, he's just the clown. You're caucus, Yeah, you
Speaker 3: are caucus. You're me exactly. I'm a jest. Everyone knows it.
Speaker 6: Character lot.
Speaker 2: Also, Jelly just jumped up on my knee, so.
Speaker 1: I swear to god. There's another Judo line here, and
Speaker 1: it starts irish and he gives up about three words
Speaker 1: in heb for me I've always liked. But yeah, but
Speaker 1: sweet little moment with your Judo and Goods. I like
Speaker 1: those guys a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then all of a sudden, Corcus, of course,
Speaker 3: is just like, Hey, I'm tired, I'm going to bed later,
Speaker 3: I'm ditching this place yourself.
Speaker 1: But everything about his body language implies.
Speaker 2: You know, what we didn't comment on is the like
Speaker 2: the very nice pat that Judo gives Casco when she's
Speaker 2: upset and he walks past her and he like really reassuring.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, I noticed that too. They spent some
Speaker 3: animation there, Yeah, spent.
Speaker 5: There's also a moment which is really nice where Caucus
Speaker 5: is walking away. Not really nice, but it's like a
Speaker 5: good bit of characterization where Caucus is walking outside in
Speaker 5: the snow and there's a beggar there, and the beggar
Speaker 5: like puts this plate towards him as if cap and
Speaker 5: Caucus waves his hand away, and it's like, oh he
Speaker 5: was just the transition from like someone with no money,
Speaker 5: fighting Foster vival every day to nobility has been instant
Speaker 5: for this guy. Like he he reveals how she he is.
Speaker 1: I feel like on some level, like Corcus has always waited,
Speaker 1: been waiting to become this person.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think any other podcast has talked about Carcus
Speaker 1: as much as US? No?
Speaker 6: I think you gotta imagine Fucus Weekly. I mean I
Speaker 6: really enjoyed that podcast. Yeah, it's called The Daily Caucus.
Speaker 3: I know my my inner monologue is now in his accent.
Speaker 3: If that tells you anything, maybe what a cool thing
Speaker 3: that is.
Speaker 6: Have you ever done have you ever done the Caucus
Speaker 6: voice to your wife or child?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: They you know, they're they're not impressed. They you know,
Speaker 3: they're they're just like, oh, Jeff's dad are doing dumbass
Speaker 3: voice again another day in this hell hole.
Speaker 1: You know, But now you have the figure to be like, look, look.
Speaker 3: It's coming out of the stupidly I left that note
Speaker 3: on the kitchen counter. Oh but but with the Corcus
Speaker 3: statue on top of it to sort of like lighten
Speaker 3: the move.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Nevertheless, Dylan saw it and he was sort of like, hey,
Speaker 3: what's with uh, you know the death threat on the kitchen, someone.
Speaker 1: Gonna kill your dad. He's like your life, uh, your
Speaker 1: life in danger and.
Speaker 6: The wheels also out right, Yeah we all good with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Turning into like a child's play chucky situation where you're
Speaker 5: just being terrorized by a very tiny figure of caucus
Speaker 5: for the rest of your life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe this one goes in the fireplace.
Speaker 1: We'll see.
Speaker 5: It's like it has been there already.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's yeah, it's been forged.
Speaker 5: This where Judo is doing a nice little trick with
Speaker 5: a very small knife.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that. It used to be in
Speaker 1: the circus.
Speaker 3: Oh raise a little, yeah, circus break right, right right.
Speaker 1: Jeff is also holding a knife.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeff, it's a letter opener, but you could fox someone.
Speaker 5: Up with that.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jeff played on it. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I just want to know what that knife that Judo
Speaker 5: is playing with it is, because it's too small to
Speaker 5: be a cutting utensil for food.
Speaker 1: Is that it's a little little little stabbor knife baby.
Speaker 5: Like the hill the hill on It is like the
Speaker 5: size of a thing. Go, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny that I didn't like when he flipped
Speaker 3: it and he landed on his finger. That was stupid.
Speaker 3: That looked stupid.
Speaker 6: Because he tried that. But it looks stupid and you couldn't.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying no sense, no sense at all there.
Speaker 1: How could you? How could anyone do that? Because he's cool,
Speaker 1: he's cool.
Speaker 5: Judo's cool. Judo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, I also we don't know Judo enough.
Speaker 3: He's had like four lines this entire time.
Speaker 1: I don't know style. He's laid back, he's the very
Speaker 1: gots the fairy dust. He's he's very grateful that he's
Speaker 1: in Griffith's army. He's like, don't worry. He was the
Speaker 1: first person who was like, don't worry, Goods, you'll like
Speaker 1: it here. And that's what happened. And now now Judo,
Speaker 1: the fucking goat, the cool, the cool little dude is like, hey, Goods, listen,
Speaker 1: you should you and casc just which I mean, they should,
Speaker 1: they should come on.
Speaker 3: I'm rooting for them. I'm shipping them in my own mind.
Speaker 1: Yes it okay. First I was like, wait, where's Jeff
Speaker 1: heard the term ship? And then I was like, well,
Speaker 1: that has to be this podcast. I was introduced to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Very Online show, Tim and Lucy explained shipping to me.
Speaker 3: And then it got real weird.
Speaker 5: Person time that that show has returned into this conversation.
Speaker 3: Some hap, and then they like they like brought me
Speaker 3: to the doorway of a portal and they opened it
Speaker 3: up so that I could see the worst possible thing
Speaker 3: imaginable for myself and then close the door and they
Speaker 3: were like, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: Did someone ship you with someone?
Speaker 5: Not talking about that?
Speaker 1: Okay, Jeff, we should start a support group.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure you get it a lot more than
Speaker 3: I do, buddy, But yeah, I just saw some ship
Speaker 3: I can un see and I'm gonna live my life.
Speaker 1: Hey, look, my attitude towards it is like whatever people
Speaker 1: need to do to get through the day is okay
Speaker 1: by me. Please don't bring that through my front door. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Sorry, this is another tangent, but I just was on
Speaker 5: the Very Online Show the last episode and the comment
Speaker 5: is this comment, the one two punch of this is
Speaker 5: incredible and it's like everything we hope for. This is
Speaker 5: the best show of our inte literacy. I appreciate the
Speaker 5: good work. Bring it back. Same person replied a few
Speaker 5: minutes later, I just got to the piper popping bit.
Speaker 5: I retract my statement.
Speaker 1: That's great, we'll play all right, yep, so Judo is so,
Speaker 1: Judo's basically walk with Goots. Everything's cool, but then Judo
Speaker 1: leads Goods I guess into an emotional ambush. The band
Speaker 1: of Hawk roll there. Corcus is leaning against a tree.
Speaker 1: It feels like there's about another three minutes of Corcus
Speaker 1: calling got some motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought you were going to sleep, bitch, you know.
Speaker 1: I just got to comment on Casky's little hat here. Phenomenal.
Speaker 1: It just looks like iconic, like a Russian skier. You know,
Speaker 1: she really does, and it's it's working. It's absolutely working
Speaker 1: for her. Ye. Pippen is there. His function seems to
Speaker 1: be to block out Griffith, because Griffith steps out from pip.
Speaker 3: You didn't expect to see me here, did you.
Speaker 5: Not?
Speaker 3: You know, it's just like what I'm doing. I didn't
Speaker 3: try and do it. Griffith voice.
Speaker 1: Jeff's done, Griffith. Griffith is kind of like griff Jeff's
Speaker 1: Griffith voice is kind of like his corcous voice on volume.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of yeah, yeah, it's me. It's me.
Speaker 3: Griffith didn't see me there, did you?
Speaker 1: Even though, and not to not to expose the show,
Speaker 1: but if we look at this shot, m this shot,
Speaker 1: no one has a face, No, it's there's no Griffith
Speaker 1: behind Pippin. I think for there's so the animators should
Speaker 1: have kind of drawn Griffith like kind of like solid snaking.
Speaker 6: Is that the shadow, like there's a slight shadow. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you could say like an inference of Griffith.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think behind How do we know that
Speaker 1: Pippen has not been against a tree?
Speaker 5: Oh? Behind behind, behind the tree.
Speaker 1: So viewer or listener, what we're watching is basically a
Speaker 1: shot from the opposite angle where and there is no
Speaker 1: Griffith behind Pippen. Maybe he's hiding up his jacket.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say, maybe Pippen is Griffith in a
Speaker 3: big trench.
Speaker 5: Cup Griffith in the same room at the same time.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I haven't never has Pippin ever said
Speaker 3: anything ever?
Speaker 5: Yes, no, one time correctly.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, it is pretty sick how Griffith just sort of
Speaker 3: like materializes and it's just like.
Speaker 1: What did you say?
Speaker 5: He could be fair, he's very like white in terms
Speaker 5: of esthetic he could be laying in the snow and
Speaker 5: no one could see him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is true.
Speaker 1: That is also an option. Griffith is basically like, how
Speaker 1: fucking dare you?
Speaker 2: He's upset all his plans are falling apart.
Speaker 1: And he's basically like, hey, listen, motherfucker, I beat your
Speaker 1: ass three years ago and you became mine in a
Speaker 1: completely non homo erotic way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't all of this. I'm starting as this unfolded.
Speaker 3: As this unraveled, I began to drift. Okay, okay, stand
Speaker 3: did you watch it.
Speaker 1: In the morning?
Speaker 5: Yeah? What do you mean by drift?
Speaker 3: Drift and not like dozing off? Drifting? Meaning I did
Speaker 3: not you know, Griffith's like position of like, yo, I
Speaker 3: realize you're like the best fighter mid the land's midlands?
Speaker 1: Is that what it is?
Speaker 3: It is has ever seen And you're real impressive and
Speaker 3: you're pretty much the only reason I've been promoted to
Speaker 3: the position I'm in. But I also own the entirety
Speaker 3: of your ass, Like I just couldn't believe what's that
Speaker 3: specifically his ass personally, I was I couldn't believe that
Speaker 3: he was so he had such ease in sliding back
Speaker 3: into that position of when they first met all those
Speaker 3: years back, Like I was like, oh, he didn't earn
Speaker 3: any good grace over the You.
Speaker 1: Know, my read on that would be very, very different, Jeff.
Speaker 1: At this point, I don't think Griffith thinks is a
Speaker 1: better fighter than him.
Speaker 6: No, he does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I buy that. I buy that a little bit.
Speaker 3: But certainly he has to realize how reliable and sick
Speaker 3: he is, right, come on, well he does.
Speaker 1: REALI that, and that is a part of what he
Speaker 1: wants to keep him because and I don't think I
Speaker 1: also need He might need him, but I don't think
Speaker 1: Griffith sees it like I need this one person to succeed.
Speaker 1: I think there's deeper shit going on here.
Speaker 3: Sure that's fair.
Speaker 1: I think Griffith is kind of in love with Goots,
Speaker 1: and the idea of him leaving kills him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, sure, Yeah, there's obviously I mean, yes, we
Speaker 3: learned very quickly, but yes, proceed.
Speaker 1: So it's it's this like kind of thing, and this
Speaker 1: is like a consistent thing across like all this part
Speaker 1: of berserk Goods is the only thing that makes Griffith
Speaker 1: like kind of veer from the path a little bit.
Speaker 1: Griffith is always so calculating, he's always so smart, but
Speaker 1: when Goots gets in danger, he risks military shit for Goots.
Speaker 1: He puts Guts ahead of his own advancements. And I
Speaker 1: think you can read this moment as that again, where
Speaker 1: like he's not even thinking about it. He's like, I'm
Speaker 1: going to beat the fuck out of Guts and he's
Speaker 1: going to keep working for me. He's going to keep
Speaker 1: being at my side because I want my little person
Speaker 1: here beside me.
Speaker 3: But Guts is the only one who truly is able
Speaker 3: to rattle him. Yeah, he keeps his smooth demeanor throughout
Speaker 3: all the other personal interactions he has. He's just like, fuck,
Speaker 3: this guy is silk right, He's a smooth operator. But
Speaker 3: Guts is the only guy who can rattle him.
Speaker 5: And this is everything that Cosca has been like responding
Speaker 5: to everything that she knows, all.
Speaker 1: Of this right, Yeah, and she kind of like part
Speaker 1: of her dislike for Goots comes from this, well, all
Speaker 1: of her dislike for Goods, because she wants to be
Speaker 1: that person to Griffith, but she's not.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really feel that this moment is very earned. Like,
Speaker 1: I think this is this is legit. This is good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they fight.
Speaker 3: Barely. Griffith loses badly, gets his ship chopped.
Speaker 6: It's rocked. Ye well, and his his face is like.
Speaker 2: Lisa Simpson, Lisa Simpson meme, whether she's like right.
Speaker 3: Like he just swallowed the battery or something. He's like, oh,
Speaker 3: and uh, I love Guts. He's just like, I'm out
Speaker 3: of here, fuckers. That's it. Peace out and that's that.
Speaker 1: And like for the first time, like you see Griffith
Speaker 1: kind of crumble here. He's not upset. He doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to process this. He doesn't he can't accept the
Speaker 1: idea that someone has surpassed him in some.
Speaker 3: Way with barely any effort. I mean, it was a
Speaker 3: one strike man.
Speaker 2: And it's also like I think Guts is just so
Speaker 2: stoic about it. He just done out the way, leave
Speaker 2: me alone.
Speaker 6: I'm out of here.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And they but we forgot theirs. Their swords did make
Speaker 3: the sunrise and the seasons change. It is now it
Speaker 3: is now spring.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful moment, Jeff. It's a visual metaphor.
Speaker 3: I just want everyone to know very clearly that their
Speaker 3: swords made the sunrise.
Speaker 1: Ye, so surely Griffith. You know, he'll learn from this,
Speaker 1: he'll kind of grow, he'll become a better person.
Speaker 5: Yeah, in the next see anything Unreasonable.
Speaker 1: Yep, this is kind of you know, where the content
Speaker 1: warning from earlier comes in. He basically visits the Princess
Speaker 1: of Midlands, who's you know, been pretty sweet on Griffith
Speaker 1: this whole time, and.
Speaker 3: Just take just takes advantage of her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a shitty thing to do. I would say
Speaker 1: this is a censored isn't the right word? This is
Speaker 1: a highly truncated of this scene.
Speaker 2: Yeah. In the manga no you do not, it is
Speaker 2: quite something like it's a.
Speaker 1: Multi page.
Speaker 6: In the films as well. It also is intense.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm cool with the shorter version. The one
Speaker 1: thing that I can kind of think is missing, though,
Speaker 1: is when this is happening. When when when Griffith is
Speaker 1: like with this very young girl, he's imagining guts, he's
Speaker 1: thinking of goots. Flashes of goots keep kind of hitting
Speaker 1: his mind. This is the scene I point to when
Speaker 1: people are like, no, it's not it's not not a
Speaker 1: not a gay thing. It's it's because it's like I
Speaker 1: don't know about come on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also just a sign of Griffith, Like it
Speaker 2: gets mentioned earlier in the episode that Princess Charlotte is
Speaker 2: like is the key right, and so he he wants
Speaker 2: more and more and more and Casko is not going
Speaker 2: to help him get there. It will be Charlotte, and
Speaker 2: she has been involved in his machination since day one,
Speaker 2: like the way that he throws himself in front of her,
Speaker 2: chases her down when her horse gets spooked, like that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, like he was laying the groundwork, and
Speaker 2: Guts has rattled him to the point where he is
Speaker 2: just being a careless when it comes to his plan.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, just cruel because yeah, he does sexually
Speaker 2: assault her. She says no multiple times and she is
Speaker 2: a very young girl, and he's yeah, he's this is
Speaker 2: like the unraveling.
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, it's like Griffith has jumped ahead ten
Speaker 1: steps of his plan and now basically destroyed everything he's
Speaker 1: built up, because we see right at the end here
Speaker 1: one of the chambermaids sees them together, calls the guards,
Speaker 1: and the episode ends with them arresting Grid that and
Speaker 1: it's like I guess you talked about like the kind
Speaker 1: of how much changes in these episodes, Jeff. And it's like,
Speaker 1: at the start of this episode, Griffith is literally on
Speaker 1: top of the world. He's a hero of Midland, all
Speaker 1: the hawks or nobles, and in one episode, because of
Speaker 1: one thing, he pisses it all away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the he got rattled. Like I said, he's
Speaker 3: the only guy who really can raddle him in this way,
Speaker 3: and he out goes and does the worst possible thing
Speaker 3: you can do. And uh, I yeah, you know, I
Speaker 3: think this episode.
Speaker 1: Brings like removes the god.
Speaker 3: Sort of tear from him right where you're just sort
Speaker 3: of like this infallible, an angelic man.
Speaker 1: We've seen him be.
Speaker 2: Ruthly yes to his own goals before, you know, like
Speaker 2: when he was sleeping with the old dude.
Speaker 1: I think even with that though, he was like it
Speaker 1: was a calculation in control, you know. And to Jeff's point,
Speaker 1: there's like a pristin nous to Griffith that's gone now,
Speaker 1: like he's fucked up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a this is a first moment of
Speaker 5: reckless Yeah, move making.
Speaker 1: Next episode one of.
Speaker 2: The next two, one of them must be a confession, right, confessions.
Speaker 1: This is episode twenty is the next episode. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is Sparks, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And oh sorry, I thought we were done with the
Speaker 2: end of the two that we watched. So in my mind,
Speaker 2: like I have the manga running, so I know exactly
Speaker 2: what is coming next, But in terms of the anime,
Speaker 2: I'm just like, wait, where are we have two again?
Speaker 1: Have two again?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 6: Carry on?
Speaker 1: So get this episode of Sparks, Yes, and we caught
Speaker 1: and a time skip has happened. It is one year later,
Speaker 1: and Guts is wandering the Midland by himself, and we
Speaker 1: get this little sequence of him basically entering a tournaments,
Speaker 1: being a cool fucking dude and beating some schmoke.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just you know, he's torn. He's like doing
Speaker 3: his happy Gilmore thing. Yeah, He's like, I can drive
Speaker 3: a ball further than anyone else, so I might as
Speaker 3: well just go to the driver and he who wants
Speaker 3: to try and beat me. He does that at this carnival.
Speaker 3: I really like, I know, I don't know why that
Speaker 3: popped in my head, but I think I think it plays.
Speaker 1: I really like the Lord in this scene because he
Speaker 1: kind of has that that voice.
Speaker 5: Like hello, got same quite the sword on my boy.
Speaker 1: Like he's that character. And I really enjoy him, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fun, it's not a whole lot necessarily. And then
Speaker 1: we find out that guts well. He returns home to
Speaker 1: a blacksmith and the blacksmith's granddaughter, and I gotta say,
Speaker 1: I really like this kid. I don't like kid.
Speaker 6: She's really sweet.
Speaker 1: I love how much she loves guts and she just
Speaker 1: wants to be a blacksmith herself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's super sweet. Who doesn't like this this this girl,
Speaker 3: she's she's a lot of fun to listen to, and
Speaker 3: she's compassionate, she's sweet, she loves guts. It's very nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's good. We didn't meet one of the characters
Speaker 1: in Brazik who I feel like he doesn't have a
Speaker 1: lot of lines, but goddamn, some of them hit so hard.
Speaker 3: He was he was very early, right like in the
Speaker 3: first episode good dough. God wasn't good dough like forging
Speaker 3: shit in the first episode. I want to say, like
Speaker 3: maybe the very first scene there was something about seeing
Speaker 3: him slap in some steel where I was like, I
Speaker 3: feel like this was very early on.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe you're right. Maybe they splice the
Speaker 1: scene of him into the anime. I can't remember at
Speaker 1: this point. Let me let me have a little scrub
Speaker 1: through here. He's right, He's right, you are right. First scene, Jeff,
Speaker 1: this guy.
Speaker 3: Look at me. Good for one thing?
Speaker 5: Well oh wait wait wait, now that I look back
Speaker 5: at it, there's way more going on in that scene
Speaker 5: than initially I remembered.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh well, I'm not going to go back because
Speaker 3: I don't want to spoil myself.
Speaker 5: But John, are you looking at it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I'm going to actually packed a lot into that scene.
Speaker 5: I did not realize how much. I guess you take
Speaker 5: it for advantage. Like, but what Got is outfitted with
Speaker 5: is a big kind of foreshadowing.
Speaker 1: Interesting, but yeah, so Goodzou has a quote I really
Speaker 1: really like from this and they kind of paraphrase it
Speaker 1: a little in the door, and I'm about to paraphrase
Speaker 1: it again, but essentially, like Gots asks him, did you
Speaker 1: how did you know you want to be a blacksmith?
Speaker 1: And it's kind of like, I want to be a blacksmith,
Speaker 1: and he's like, well, I picked up my hammer and
Speaker 1: I swung it, and I wanted to make the best
Speaker 1: sword I could, and then I kept trying to do that,
Speaker 1: and then one day I looked up and I was
Speaker 1: an old man and it's fuck. You know, it's kind of.
Speaker 6: Sort of like video game controller.
Speaker 1: But I guess I kind of liked that idea. That's like, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: you just you just always make the next obvious step
Speaker 1: and you can try and control it as much as
Speaker 1: you want, but ultimately it's kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: the ship that you are drawn to naturally is going
Speaker 1: to serve as the thing that guides you. And like,
Speaker 1: when you think of Guts, it's like that's that's sword
Speaker 1: plate to him, you know, that's like, that's that's what
Speaker 1: gets him excited totally, and it's it's cool, it's really
Speaker 1: really cool. There's other kind of philosophical machinations. There's lots
Speaker 1: of scenes of Guts training. I think maybe he could
Speaker 1: find a more efficient way of training than the waterfall logs.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, and and and twice. Like that seems
Speaker 3: like such a hellish setup. I can't believe the poor
Speaker 3: girls meant to kind of like, I don't know, she
Speaker 3: cuts the rope that releases the pointy logs, but certainly
Speaker 3: seems like a dangerous practice, right, Like.
Speaker 1: I think there's probably a safer way.
Speaker 3: There's probably a safer way. To do this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, does Guts ever take part in any battles that
Speaker 5: are considered safe, Like he's always just in the most
Speaker 5: absurd odds, right, No, I.
Speaker 3: Really meant more for the girls safety. Like I just like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this seems terrible. You know, he's got trees falling on him,
Speaker 3: He's got pointy logs fall like it's just it's I mean,
Speaker 3: it's almost cartoonishly stupid.
Speaker 5: He's under the care of a blacksmith, so I imagine
Speaker 5: she's seen some ship at a time.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and she wants to be on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and she's a little more world weary and capable than.
Speaker 1: Most would really Okay, I take it back, Uh, but
Speaker 1: things kick off again when this another I don't know
Speaker 1: what you'd call him. He's like a I guess he's
Speaker 1: a lord to maybe I don't know. But he comes
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, blacksmith, can you get me some swords?
Speaker 1: There's some people I want to kill?
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is this is as God says about to
Speaker 5: leave as well. Yeah, he's he's done for he's been
Speaker 5: there for a year and he's like, I'm out.
Speaker 1: And we discover that the people he's talking about are
Speaker 1: the Band of Hawks. Somehow, well we kind of know
Speaker 1: how since Got's left, uh, they have become gone from
Speaker 1: nobles to outlaws and they're it kind of it's it's
Speaker 1: horrible because it's like, but you see them fall back
Speaker 1: down the ladder that they've climbed, you know, it's like, God,
Speaker 1: damn it.
Speaker 5: It sucks.
Speaker 3: But at least Corkus has to live through it. At
Speaker 3: least cork has got a taste of the sweet life
Speaker 3: only to have it snatched from him. And I'm sure
Speaker 3: what was a very dramatic fashion where he was just
Speaker 3: sort of like, oh, you've got to be fucking kidding
Speaker 3: and that's it.
Speaker 1: Okay, then, led by Cask, can we do a little
Speaker 1: improv here please? Yeah? I think so. Okay, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: going to I'm going to be the character explaining to
Speaker 1: Carcus that he's not a noble anymore. Okay, yes, you
Speaker 1: what is it? Wasting my time? Can you hear the
Speaker 1: knock on the door? No? Come in, please come in,
Speaker 1: Hey Corcus, listen, who are you? Oh buddy, I'm a
Speaker 1: messenger from uh from from from Judo. I don't have
Speaker 1: a name.
Speaker 3: Out with it already wasting my time?
Speaker 5: You are?
Speaker 1: So I guess I just want you to prepare yourself
Speaker 1: a little here, maybe maybe take a seat. I have
Speaker 1: some unfortunate news. This physical core go on, This is
Speaker 1: my this is my associate, Tam, and this other associate.
Speaker 3: Something wrong with my crypto coint.
Speaker 1: So the good news, the good news, Lord's Caucus, is
Speaker 1: that your crypto coin is actually quite actually doing quite well.
Speaker 1: To the moon.
Speaker 3: I say very good yes.
Speaker 1: To the moon, sir. That's right, that's right. I guess
Speaker 1: the bad news is out with it. Please. Oh well,
Speaker 1: how much do you like being a.
Speaker 3: Noble, nameless messenger? It is the thing I cherish the
Speaker 3: very most. It's a bit of honesty for you in
Speaker 3: this moment.
Speaker 1: Okay, so there's no gentle way to say this, but well,
Speaker 1: last night, Lord Griffith made made a poor decision. He
Speaker 1: had a lapse in judgment and he did something he
Speaker 1: shouldn't have. It couldn't have been that bad.
Speaker 5: What do you mean, oh buddy, Oh man, I'm pretty
Speaker 5: we're actually the police.
Speaker 6: Yeah, sorry, here's my identification.
Speaker 1: This is Midland cops. Okay, okay, you're no longer you're
Speaker 1: no longer a noble.
Speaker 3: You are an outlaw and company to run I'm what
Speaker 3: shall I do with my magnificent chambers?
Speaker 1: The chamber is no longer yours?
Speaker 3: What the fuck is happening? What you mean? What is
Speaker 3: am I? You can't do this to me? Do you
Speaker 3: know who I am? Do you know how little I've
Speaker 3: had to do to get to where I am today?
Speaker 3: I'm not going to have that flushed down the latrine
Speaker 3: by some freak angelic ghost head freak Griffith Corcus.
Speaker 1: In a couple of days, you are going to be
Speaker 1: begging for a latrine Yeah, oh no, scene la trening
Speaker 1: days are over.
Speaker 3: I'll bring my bidet.
Speaker 1: That sucks.
Speaker 3: Yep, poor poor Corcus. I'm back sympathizing for him.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, maybe maybe things will end up okay
Speaker 1: from we'll see. We'll see quickly. Doesn't look like it.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, can I interrupt for some breaking
Speaker 2: anime news that's going to date the ring of this podcast?
Speaker 1: Oh no, is it about me again?
Speaker 5: Get a spin off? You?
Speaker 1: I'm back, baby, Shut.
Speaker 6: Up all of you.
Speaker 2: Andrew lid Webber is turning Phantom of the Opera into
Speaker 2: an anime epic. This is huge for teenage me, and
Speaker 2: that's very tuxedo mask, very listener, we made it.
Speaker 5: We made a joke almost eight years ago that has
Speaker 5: finally come all the way around. We started we pitched
Speaker 5: an anime show, and one of the jokes was Andrew
Speaker 5: Lloyd Weber.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's pretty good.
Speaker 5: We're back.
Speaker 2: And also Andrew Weber sucks as a human being. Just
Speaker 2: to be clear, however, I didn't know that he was
Speaker 2: living in New York. Some thinking, and he flew all
Speaker 2: the way back to the UK on his private jet
Speaker 2: just to vote for things to be taken away from
Speaker 2: lesser well off people.
Speaker 3: So well, he lives in New York.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but he's like a lord.
Speaker 3: It didn't infect him.
Speaker 6: Well that's the thing that's what makes some piece of shit.
Speaker 3: Anyway, back, just so you know, listener, while the three
Speaker 3: of us are deeply engaged into the recording of this podcast,
Speaker 3: Lucy now her mind as else.
Speaker 6: I got no someone texted me to tell me. Someone
Speaker 6: texted me yeah in my phone during that.
Speaker 2: Never I would never leave a podcast recording for twenty
Speaker 2: five minutes and then come back.
Speaker 1: Oh my, I know now I said it.
Speaker 6: I was like, I'm bad geez.
Speaker 1: Anyway, anyway, anyway, well, you know, Jeff left for twenty
Speaker 1: five years, but Gods has been gone for an entire year.
Speaker 1: How do you think the Band of hawk.
Speaker 5: Field twenty five years versus one year?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 1: Tom, I am desperately trying to pull this car back
Speaker 1: onto the tracks. Okay, hey, listen.
Speaker 5: In the next scene, there's those two people who are
Speaker 5: like getting ready to attack the Band of hawk and
Speaker 5: they are wearing the most insane helmets. I love that
Speaker 5: ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: Like one of us wear little glass two little eye helmets.
Speaker 1: They're like Middland steampunkers. It's so weird.
Speaker 5: What one of them is wearing a helmet which is
Speaker 5: like connected to his nose. It is like pressing down
Speaker 5: on his nose. If he gets bunked on the head,
Speaker 5: he is dead.
Speaker 3: It's so weird. I don't know what their names are.
Speaker 3: We should really, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna go for Tommy Elephants and uh little
Speaker 1: Precipitous Jones. It's a lot wow.
Speaker 3: Healthy names.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeahs Cask is having a tough time. We get
Speaker 1: a beautiful shot of her sitting at a desk and
Speaker 1: she's just looking great, but she's looking very tired, and
Speaker 1: she has assumed the leadership of the hawk and look,
Speaker 1: it's been rough. I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 1: She's struggling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean heavy Herby is the head that best
Speaker 2: of the crown, you know.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. She then gets a visit from Jeff's least favorite character.
Speaker 1: For some reason, Judo is my least I just think
Speaker 1: I want a little more at it.
Speaker 2: What is the what is the level of Irish that
Speaker 2: Judo is coming coming in with?
Speaker 1: Let me let me do, let me let me I
Speaker 1: Irish Bride. It's just, oh, lucy, I'd say we're we're
Speaker 1: at maybe like twelve percent contamination. Okay, it's very low,
Speaker 1: very low. He's fine, he's doing great, but you knows, like, hey, listen, dude,
Speaker 1: you gotta rest. And she's like that's a good idea.
Speaker 1: And then she falls asleep at her desk eating. You know,
Speaker 1: we get we.
Speaker 6: Get a little little, little.
Speaker 1: Little little scene aor in the campfire with the boys,
Speaker 1: little Rickerts got his little arm broken. Yeah, kind of
Speaker 1: just kind of just doing Pippin. He's he looks exactly
Speaker 1: like he normally does, and that Corcus Corcus is losing faith.
Speaker 5: Guy Caucus is immediately the most defeated human being.
Speaker 2: I feel like, it doesn't take much. I feel like
Speaker 2: if he stubs his toe, that's his whole year ruined.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the noble days are long gone funny and he's like,
Speaker 5: what fuck?
Speaker 1: I hate to see it, but he basically.
Speaker 7: It's jove for everyone over Jova Arrow starts spraying from
Speaker 7: the darkness and the band of Hawk are under attack.
Speaker 1: Can't catch your break, not at all our girl. Caska
Speaker 1: takes down like four people before being taken down herself.
Speaker 1: My feeling is that she's just not on our game here.
Speaker 1: She fell asleep in soup. Yeah, she's all over her lap,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: But then the most predictable thing ever in this in
Speaker 3: this anime.
Speaker 1: Happened and then shockingly good saves her. Yeah, because of
Speaker 1: the coolest way possible.
Speaker 5: He like the front rolled the dude who's about to
Speaker 5: kick kill Kaska into a fire.
Speaker 3: Bot a fire and it is so rad his the
Speaker 3: sound from that guy is pretty good though. As he
Speaker 3: enters the flames, he's just sort of.
Speaker 1: Like, well, this is mad, Like it's not. It isn't
Speaker 1: even like it's very middle Brooks. It's crazy. When he goes,
Speaker 1: oh no, not for fire, it's just like I laughed,
Speaker 1: I did out loud.
Speaker 5: It was great, and get a floor to ceiling panning
Speaker 5: shot of Guts, which is incredible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels good, and.
Speaker 1: A really beautifully drawn Guts enturns into an even more
Speaker 1: beautiful painting.
Speaker 3: And the painting is a thing I've seen everywhere. Like
Speaker 3: that thing, I've seen every real I.
Speaker 5: Think it gets it gets used in different contexts like
Speaker 5: that it's like triumphant return, but in like meme reaction world,
Speaker 5: it's like holy ship, you know, like it's like staring
Speaker 5: off into into the the void is happening.
Speaker 1: I can I've seen it.
Speaker 3: I've seen it as in the same way as like
Speaker 3: this person has entered the.
Speaker 1: Battle kind of thing. Oh yeah, cool, guys. That's brings
Speaker 1: these episodes to a close. I think those are two
Speaker 1: fantastic episodes.
Speaker 3: Strong, very strong, and I love for better or worse.
Speaker 3: My man Cork is Finally the limelight is mine. Plenty
Speaker 3: of plenty of lines in the script for your Boy.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm looking back. I'm looking back at this
Speaker 5: moment where it shows Got's face and then transitions into
Speaker 5: the painting, and it is incredible how different the two
Speaker 5: odds styles are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it.
Speaker 5: Goes from because this episode has like a very different
Speaker 5: hostile compared to all the other episodes. It's a little
Speaker 5: more anime. And then when it does the freeze frame
Speaker 5: into the painting, it's old guts, it goes, he looks,
Speaker 5: he goes from young to like super old looking in
Speaker 5: an instant. It's so weird. Yeah, his eyes get bigger
Speaker 5: as well. It's bizarre looking.
Speaker 1: It is weird.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 3: I yeah, no, I'm with you, John, I I really,
Speaker 3: I really dig it. I feel like there's just so
Speaker 3: few apps left here.
Speaker 1: So I'm actually looking at the episodes here, and we
Speaker 1: have five episodes left, and the way we have traditionally
Speaker 1: done this is basically done a special three episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Ali like probably the right call? Yeah three all right?
Speaker 3: Well yeah yeah yeah, a Tuesday and a three, so
Speaker 3: we'll have two more apps of Jeff jeffs for this.
Speaker 5: Do we have four or five left?
Speaker 3: Five?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 1: Cool? So five?
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, it all comes down to these last five.
Speaker 1: This is it. This is it. But yeah, exciting times,
Speaker 1: absolutely so. Guys, Lucy, where can People Find You?
Speaker 6: You find me everywhere at Lucy James Games.
Speaker 1: Two more scene where can People Find.
Speaker 5: I Am Everywhere? To more h I probably worth saying
Speaker 5: we'll be back soonish. We're gonna all be traveling, or
Speaker 5: a few of us are going to be traveling for
Speaker 5: a little bit for various events and cons and such,
Speaker 5: such and such, So it might be a bit of
Speaker 5: a delay in the next episode, but wait, endeavor to
Speaker 5: get back to it as soon as possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeff Smith, where can people find you?
Speaker 3: You could find me Jeff Smith on all social platforms. Yeah,
Speaker 3: just Jeff, I changed everything. It's been hard, but I
Speaker 3: did know. My name is Jeff Higgins, like I said,
Speaker 3: And what I would really love for you to do
Speaker 3: is go go read the comic web comic that I'm
Speaker 3: working on.
Speaker 5: It's called whis been optioned for a movie.
Speaker 1: Yes, exciting, Yes, Oh my god.
Speaker 5: I just made that.
Speaker 1: Shut up and everyone, okay, okay. I was like this,
Speaker 1: I like, this feels like a tim bit. But then, okay,
Speaker 1: here's the biggest compliments I can give you, Jeff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tom said that, and I was like.
Speaker 5: No, one that makes sense? Yeah exactly, yeah, no one knows.
Speaker 5: Was like, no, that's not happen.
Speaker 3: Well, that feels good.
Speaker 1: I guess comical pinball guy, no way, the pin Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go read it go to belowthelilies dot com. We're
Speaker 3: starting the second half of the first season here and
Speaker 3: shit's popping off, like I I love this. I'm so
Speaker 3: happy to tell this the second half of the story.
Speaker 3: It's really where shit pops off, not just not just
Speaker 3: blowing smoke. Okay, so yeah, check that out. Let me
Speaker 3: know what you think. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: So for my shed out. I would like to just
Speaker 1: say that I recently launched a book pre order and
Speaker 1: that preorder has ended. So if you didn't order your book,
Speaker 1: that's on you. I don't want you to go anywhere.
Speaker 1: I just want you to think about this missed opportunity
Speaker 1: and maybe next time I have something for you, you'll
Speaker 1: take me fucking seriously. Okay, Okay, I got my Jeff's comic.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Lucy.
Speaker 3: I think I didn't get a sign one from John.
Speaker 2: I didn't get us what I didn't get a sign
Speaker 2: one though, John's. The next time I see you, I
Speaker 2: will have you sign it please.
Speaker 1: I will absolutely say, but you have.
Speaker 2: To like make it real good, like really personalize it.
Speaker 1: I'm I plan on can I can I tell you
Speaker 1: guys a little little uh pull the curtain back here?
Speaker 1: We sold more special orders than we thought we would,
Speaker 1: and so now I have to go to Luca and
Speaker 1: sign a thousand books.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a thousand that's not pretty good.
Speaker 2: I mean at the same time, I've got a tiny
Speaker 2: violin over here with your name on it.
Speaker 6: Maybe you could sign it, I wonder.
Speaker 3: I'm curious, can you? Can you start? I'm serious. I
Speaker 3: want to know how long it takes you to do it.
Speaker 3: But I want to know how long because I don't
Speaker 3: think it's going to be as bad as you think.
Speaker 2: I think you would get cramp in your hand though,
Speaker 2: like legit, I don't want to get but no, no. Also,
Speaker 2: when we were doing the signing question, the giant bomb
Speaker 2: post is like we like the markers.
Speaker 6: Right now, you're going to need a whole box.
Speaker 1: Okay, you need a team.
Speaker 6: You genuinely you need someone opening into the right page
Speaker 6: passing it to you.
Speaker 3: Because the cover or is it the cover? Like the
Speaker 3: first page, what is it?
Speaker 1: I think it's a prince? So yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: signed the print.
Speaker 3: Oh you mean the easiest thing possible.
Speaker 2: But still no, no, no, still have podcast have someone do
Speaker 2: the convey about.
Speaker 1: I'm not getting any sympathy and I don't appreciate it.
Speaker 3: I think I think it'll if you're just signing prints
Speaker 3: and they're going right in front of you, I think
Speaker 3: I think you'll be done in two hours.
Speaker 2: Can you time lapse it? Can you film it and
Speaker 2: time lapse it? Yeah, I think that'd be good hashtag content.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll stream while I do it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a nice idea.
Speaker 5: Also a good idea.
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, okay, but yeah that sounds good. Guys, We
Speaker 1: will see you next episode. Bye bye.