Speaker 1: It's now time for monster Soup with your really fun
party's host Dave Spencer.
Speaker 2: And his level headed co host Brian McKinnon. These dudes
will explore all the crazy mysteries roaming off forest to
serve hallways. After all, monsters are real.
Speaker 3: It's monster Soup time.
Speaker 2: Right now, get it while it's hot. Now Your host's
Dave and Brian. Why Hello, Welcome to Monster Soup, a kitchen,
a conversation of misfits, kryptis and these kids. I am
David Spencer, your head wounded and with me as always
in the woods. That call him Ranger Camelte, but we
call him Brian McKinnon. Well, let's spies. I just want
to get it out right off the rapa bat. I
want to comment about what I look like right now
if you're watching us on the video thing, but if
you need a vision in your head, if you're just
listening to the podcast. I have a giant bandage on
my head and sunglasses on, specifically the sunglasses to cover
up the giant black eye that I have from an
accident I got on this weekend. Wear your helmet, kids,
because sometimes when you're working out and deciding to go
for a cool bicycling goal. You fly off that thing
and you injure yourself real romant, So for your sake
and if you want to see this something. I look
at that. It's great as the biggest. I didn't even
have my eye. It's a stupid the way that works.
She was like, you'll get a black eye. I'm like cool,
And I didn't realize it would like totally shut up,
like literally, it's because slit. I'm trying to work, trying
to work today. I was like pulling it apart, like
I think I can see that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty nasty.
Speaker 4: When I saw you the other night, I was like, oh,
that's definitely good. I actually I'm surprised it's not like
the whole side of your face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it hasn't moved its way down. We'll see how
it goes.
Speaker 4: But you should take it so we could get the full,
you know, the full.
Speaker 2: I actually I almost did. I had it pulled off
and I was like, this is I need to clean this.
This isn't like anything anyone else to look at. It's
got the like gel on it still and stuff. So
it's just like like it's like the scene from from
the Thing. No, thank you. Essentially what happened was I
was going down. I was going down a hill. I
was trying to you know, I went on a new
path and did it never go on and I'm coming back.
Basically the way that the bike hill works is there's
a valley. It like you basically bike down a hill
into it, and then you bike out of it, and
then I was gonna basically like turn around and go
home like you know, basically double back. And on the
way down, it was really I was just not even peddaling,
just go as fast as I could, or just going
just going fast because naturally by the the use of
grand and I was like, I'm going a little fast.
I was like, if anybody's going the other way, this
is going to be a problem. But like as I
was thinking about that, there was kind of a sharp
turn and I kind of like turned my bike kind
of quickly and I hit my brakes and I overcorrected
and I basically threw myself off my bike. Luckily, I
didn't hit the concrete, like the concrete trail. I hit
like the gravel on the side, which you know, either
or bad, but like I feel like hitting the actual
like hard hard, non like you know, cushioned sort of
gravel would have been really really bad. So you know,
I got to walk out there with no bones, but
I did sustain a pretty bad I immediately noticed blood
running down my face. I was just like, oh, and
that's one of those moments where like I'm down a
very steep hill, like kind of far like I was.
I was riding my bike kind of far, not far
enough to like not be able to walk it back.
But just like, do I call my wife right now
and try to pick me up? Do I get someone
to get me? I was like, do I ride through
this thing? Like? But I was like, I'm gushing blood
right now. It'll be a horrific sight just seeing somebody
ride by you that's just like covered in blood. Just like, ah,
I'll become my own cryptid, like the streaming bike the
cyclist of Baroke. And you would have.
Speaker 3: Been like a couple of miles from where your car was, right.
Speaker 2: Or did rod house? Yeah? Yeah, I was. I was
eleven miles away from my house. Uh so uh yeah.
I called my wife and I was just like, hey,
I hit my head, Like I'm still like next to
my bike, kind of out of it, and I'm just
like I hit my head and it's really bad. I
think I need you to pick me up. She's like,
where are you. I'm like I don't really know how
to describe where I'm at. And then my phone cut
out and then my wife thought that I passed out,
so she's freaking out. I call her back and I
was just like hey. I was like hey, sorry, and
she's like, I thought you died. I thought you passed out.
I'm like I'm fine, just you know, I'm all. She's like,
have somebody help you? And I was like, no one's around,
and I was like, I'll just walk up to the
top of the hill. It's no problem. I'm gushing blood.
The only thing I had was my favorite hoodie and
I'm literally holding against my head, just like bleeding it through.
And I was like, oh, blood comes out my favorite hoodie,
which you did think of all the things. But I
saw two people walking by who were coming close, and
I like went up to the top of this like
little hill and like faced away from them, like played
on my phone. I was just kind of like I
was like I didn't want to like ruin their day
with my nonsense of like like oh we were gonna
go for a nice walk, but now we got attend
to this, like, you know, Jimmy neutron looking dude. Yeah.
So I was just like I just faced away and
they kind of walked by and then and then I
made my way up hill. I saw a lady halfway
through it's just are you okay? And I was like,
I'm fine. My wife's meeting me. Good thing, there's not
a large here, like okay. I like sorry. Yeah. I
ended up getting four stitches, which I immediately I was like,
I'm fine, don't worry about I don't even go to
the hospital. And my wife's like, you never go to
the hospital. Just go to the hospital, like you need
to get stitches, you need to at least get looked at.
And I'm like, I'll be fine. I was clean it
out at home, and I was like, let me at
least take a shower. Like I hadn't showered for the day,
I haven't done anything, I'd brushed my teeth. I just
basically like went for a bike ride and was gonna
come back and start my day after that. And so
I was just like, let me at least take a shower,
do all that stuff. So she's like, Okay, take a
shower and then we're going to the hospital. You know,
like if you think it through it. And then after
I cleaned it out and I looked at the gash,
I was like, yeah, this is a This is not
closing up on its own. This is the thing my
body is capable of. So I went in and then
I was fun, thing is you can you can lie
to them every nine seconds, like could you run into
Like when you go to the hospital, you talk to
like twelve people and like every time they're like what happened?
You can just tell them something new. So the first
thing I did was we I'm holding this like ice
bag up to my head and I walk into originally
was urgent care, but they wouldn't stitch my head up.
But I walked in with this thing on my head
and I was like, we're here for her and uh.
But then I walked into the real hospital and uh
and uh. We got to the security and I was like,
she beats me. Don't say that, will believe you. And
I was like okay, and then so we get to
the back and then you know, the lady was like,
you know what happened? And I was just kind of like, oh,
I was defending an old lady's honor. And then another
person was like, what happened? And I was a shark attack.
I just changed it every time, every time, and then
every time we then we left, I go, you be
so proud of me. She's like why. I was like,
I wanted to scream. She has a gun so bad.
To the security officer, she's got a good She's like,
what's wrong with you? I was like, I can help it.
You were you were concussed.
Speaker 3: You didn't even know what you were doing.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, really I could blame the concussion. I'm sorry.
I was out of it. They gave me, they gave
me baby ex friends.
Speaker 3: But it's not just a regular like straight gash that
they stitched up. It's like I'll spider webbed and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a star. So it was. It was
a nice one. So the one EMT looked at me
and he's just like, see it's like an older guy.
He had like a little gut and it was just
he pats it and he goes, that's why I don't
work out. I know, I could have stayed at home
only I would have just opened the pool that day.
It wouldn't have had any issues.
Speaker 3: The one that could have gotten out of exercising this stuff.
Speaker 2: This stuff doesn't happen. You do chores in the backyard.
It's not nearly as fun.
Speaker 3: But did you end up damaging your bike at all?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Just crack my mirror, which I don't use anyway, So
like it was, you know, like it came with a
mirror and I was just like, okay, whatever, And then
you know, I use it every once in a while
just to like be like, oh, I should set this
up in case somebody's coming behind me. But like I
never ever ever looked look at it, and I never
noticed anybody passing me until they've passing me. So I
always have my headphones on, so it doesn't make a difference.
Speaker 4: I don't know, But is this is this gonna set
you back it off on your bike trip that you're
playing on doing in the phone.
Speaker 2: As soon as this is like sort of healed up,
my ribs hurt a little bit. But as soon as
this heals up, I'll be good to go. I think
I'll be I'll be golden. So other than that, feel good.
And my helmet came, and my helmet came today that
I'm now contractually I'll begeted to wear via my wife.
Uh in your.
Speaker 4: Kids when I was over there after it happened that evening,
and uh, your kids.
Speaker 2: Were like, damn, we're a helmet a helmet. I don't know. Well,
I've I've also slid the being able to say anything
uh in my house this week at least, I've been
like saying something. She's like, what do you know you
don't wear a helmet? And I'm like, oh, like it's
hard to like negotiate that when you're like have a
full closed black eye, and I'm like just starts like, no,
I'm the smarter one. Well obviously not.
Speaker 3: They're like dead, I'm not the one with a butthole.
I'm it for it.
Speaker 5: Like listen, I'll put a butthole in your forehead. No,
that sounds way worse than I thought I would allow.
Oh man, but yeah, so that was that was that.
Speaker 2: That's fun. So now we're in sunglasses the podcast, like weirdo.
I don't wear sunglass that often, so it's kind of
hard to see, but I want you guys to not
be it's just distracted by my like quasi moto and
face right now.
Speaker 4: And if you're listening to it, you turn on the
YouTube channel and check it out.
Speaker 5: Lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just check it out. Just watch it there, and
then simultaneously look out stupid I look and then hopefully
next time you see me, I'll have a I'll have
it like cut. Well you won't because we were doing
in a row. I'll look exactly the same. Oh man.
So yeah, but yeah, so if you're if you're joining
us live, we're not live. We apologize for that. Brian
is going on a cruise. You're going to cruise, right.
Speaker 3: I am just going to Florida, not no cruise this time.
Speaker 4: But we're leaving on Friday the sixth, so it can't
be live, and then we return Saturday the thirteenth or something.
Speaker 3: Fridays Saturday fourteenth.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna record two and then we'll be live
after that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, I'll be in the chat, hanging out
talking if you want to. I'll hang out with the
people while you're yucking it up, drinking, drinking pool side,
whatever you're doing.
Speaker 3: That's that's the beauty of it. Don't really have much
of anything planned.
Speaker 4: We're gonna be in like the Greater Orlando area and
the kids are all planning on going to Universal and
Disney and a bunch of that stuff. I'm planning on
sitting by the pool and enjoying some adult beverages and
just relaxing. Hey, yeah, man, turned into Larry the Lobster.
Speaker 3: I'll be living like Larry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, You're gonna be Larry the Lobster. I'm Headwood Harry, Harry, Larry,
just just like our oh no, that was Lloyd and
Harry o our keywords from we run into the weird
folk at like our little cons or like, uh, you.
Speaker 5: Gotta go, hey Larry, Yeah, the wrap it up.
Speaker 2: Somebody's like the government's putting small disk inside of our brain.
And I know because every night I wake up and
they're in my room. I think that's just the people
that take care of you. I'm gonna walk backwards slowly
like that Homer Beam. Oh man, yeah, so uh big week.
Hopefully by the time you see us live again, I'll
be and healed up or at least on my way
to recovery. Right now, I feel like an idiot. I've
been like blacked out on all my meetings lately, just
like I'm not even showing any in my face I'm
a I'm a face shower, and most video things, I'm
usually the most talker, hence wh I have a podcast.
But yeah, so I don't know that's where we're at.
Uh So, this week we're discussing video games, not only
video games, but a very mysterious video game from the eighties.
Speaker 3: The most mysterious apparently.
Speaker 2: The most mysterious. So as you know, back in the
year was nineteen eighty one, things were hopping in the arcade,
you know, Asteroids, pac Man, Galliga, Samuri Showdown. If it
was the nineties, that that was my video goo of choice.
But yeah, so you know there was a it means.
Speaker 4: Don't don't even challenge me to Asteroids. I will beat anybody.
Speaker 2: I remember.
Speaker 3: I had a full size Asteroid's Cabinet video game in
my bedroom.
Speaker 4: Played that thing like Till the Sun Came Down, and
that in a in a pinball machine too, and that
now it was only in my bedroom because when I
was like fourteen, I moved down into the basement.
Speaker 3: So basically it.
Speaker 4: Was it was a social area for everybody, but I
count with my brother, so I moved downstairs and so
therefore it became in my bedroom. And uh, Yeah, this
would have been like the mid the late eighties, and
uh we got them as a gift from a family friend.
Speaker 3: And uh we weren't We couldn't afford to buy those,
you know, for ourselves.
Speaker 2: So somebody gifted them to us.
Speaker 4: You know, a few years after, you know, the newer,
kind of cooler games came out. But uh, you know,
having that Asteroids machine in my bedroom just like you know,
it had that like low rumble like sonic, don't, don't, don't,
get faster and faster, and that awesome little Isosceles triangle.
You know that I could zoom that thing around and.
Speaker 2: A little tokyo drifted all around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, the ball joystick.
Speaker 4: I could roll that thing like like it was nobody's business,
like nothing you've ever seen before.
Speaker 2: I feel like that put a value on a quarter
that like I don't think kids understand these days. Like
when I see a quarter, I still get like a
little bit of like a like a hit of like serotonin.
It's a small drip drip now because it means really
nothing anymore, but like I still get like a little like, oh,
that used to be like so important to me as
a kid, because every time I found a quarter. I
pocketed it because I was like, you never know when
you're in a laundromat or you know, at a pizza
at the Pizza Hut or whatever, and you can play Turtle,
the Ninja Turtles game, which was my personal favorite, uh,
which just sucked down quarters, but it was so awesome.
I get like the sound of that game specifically is
so nostout for me and like brings me back to
like like eating deep dish pizza red red cups from
Pizza Hut, the little ones with you know they still
have them, but which I ended up getting from my
wife for Christmas because I was like, remember these and
then but I ended up getting the wrong I ended
up getting the wrong size, and I was like, I
don't have time to return them. But uh yeah, it's
like some of those cups with crushed ice and like
your own personal pandam deep pizza that maybe you were
in book at at the time you read a bunch
of books. I always read a bunch of comic books
and I just got I got a cool book it
and I knew it, and then sometimes they give you
an X Men poster.
Speaker 4: It's like, I mean, certainly with the way the video
games are nowadays and how awesome they are. You know,
our kids would you know, look at that stuff and
you know think it was silly, but to not be
able to really play games at home. And I'm talking
like pre consoles, you know, prelatari.
Speaker 3: Having to go to.
Speaker 4: The mall and go to the arcade or your local
you know, not grocery store, but like retail store that
might have one or two video games out in the
front next to the popcorn stand and the rest of
the slushy machine and like have that quarter and wait
in line and wait to play a game and probably
lose within two minutes, you know, you know, your pac
Man style game or anything like that.
Speaker 3: But you know they'll never have that experience.
Speaker 4: They could just turn on their consoles and pretty much
playing a game they want. You don't need to purchase
the games and have like physical copies anymore.
Speaker 3: You just download it.
Speaker 2: I know. And sometimes they're just straight up free, like
Fortnite's free. You can just play that. I have a
specific core memory of playing Street Fighter. My dude was
was uh, I forget his name right now? The green
guy what's the green guy's name? From somebody's screaming right now.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: The things they say in that The things they say
in that game are like just memory hits for me.
I don't know why this is like, oh, Blanca, okay,
I would say I wanted to say Baraka, which is
Mortal Kombat, and I was just like, it's not that
it overwrote it the file in my brain. Blanco was
my dude, and his whole thing was like a charge
attack likej and I remember I did like three moves
and it was that was one of them. And I
remember this guy was just dominating, just ripping people through
and I'm just a little like ten year old and
I went in and I was able to hit him
one time, and he was like he actually hit me,
you know, he just he smoked me throughout. But I
got a couple of hits on him. I was pretty
proud of myself. I was like, you know, but I
didn't comminate though. But yeah, load those quarters up. People
would put them down, put them on the actual side
at the bottom, whatever, like that's my quarter, he's in line.
That's so cool. It's such a good time. But yeah,
that's just not a thing anymore. Next, you don't do
it online, which is fine, it's just not the same.
But also at the same time, like I didn't get
to play that much because like you know, obviously my
mom wasn't like made a quarter or so, like I
can only do so much. But you know, uh, in
that in that age and everything, there was just lots
of I mean, you remember being a kid, you would
hear lore and it would just burst, you know, like
you would just be like I heard you know this
like little legend and then you know urban legends just
kind of like the name of the game your kid's.
Speaker 4: And like if somebody told you at school it was true,
like there was no question, a yeah.
Speaker 2: If two people told you it's confirmed, it'sresent true fact
print it go for it so so and but you
get enough people and then especially you want to be
the person with an interesting story, so a lot of
big things kind of build from there. I remember telling
tons of stories about uh, what was it this place
called go orphanage that's by us, and we used to
just tell stories all the time. But then you listened
to like a ghost documentary and it'd be the exact
same stories that you heard before. You're like, wait a minute,
that's for my town. You're like Noah, and then you're like, oh,
it's everybody's got the same story. The kids like pushing
the car or whatever. It's just like somebody's on fire
on the bridge. It was like, oh wait, that was
our town. It's like, no, that was it. Everywhere. It
was just everybody grabbed the story and put it, put
it where their creeper place wasn't down. I remember even
just like secrets in games, something like oh, if you
hit the show in Mario, uh, in this specific spot
you can get like nanainon lives. And I was like oh.
And I even wrote it into like an essay I
had to write. I was like wow. And then I
remember like my friend read it and he's like, you know,
this isn't like a thing that you can actually do, right.
I was like, oh, I didn't know that. I just
I wrote it as gospel because we had to write
like how to like essay, and I was like, I'll
just do how to get lives in Mario because I
didn't feel like writing it anything else.
Speaker 4: It was it was like if if they wrote right
through it today and chet ept wrote it and uh,
it was just made up its own information.
Speaker 3: That's not even a real part of the game.
Speaker 2: Exactly. Uh So there was this game, uh and the
name of it was uh wait wait, it was policee
uh And basically the idea was so the people would
go and they there. All of a sudden, there was
this game that just showed up one day at the
arcade and you know, kids were playing it and they
were just like people are lining up, you know, all
the way around the all the way around the arcade
playing this game. And it was just crazy, like sounds
like everything you can think of, just that, you know,
and that time was like uh, you know, enticing and
crazy and you're like, oh my gosh, it's just kind
of it's activating my brain, you know. And this isn't
a time that like video games are socks. I've seen
as just like addictive. I mean they are now, but
like you know, when things are new, they're even more so,
like you know, like things like kiss and stuff like
oh my god, devils and they're like compared to now,
it's just like what are you talking about. It's not
even the same. But uh yeah, so like but back
in the day, just seeing all these things happen and uh,
you know, so that as the story goes just people
line up around the block. There was in this story,
all these kids went home and they had like basically
a manic manic episodes, uh you know, seizures, nightmares, memory loss, insomnia,
hallucinations and uh in an aversion of video games afterwards,
like an addiction to video games and uh so basically
and then one day they basically c I A people
came in with the story is that people like men
in black sort of people came in and it disappeared,
and uh the idea was that they were collecting data
and it was a that it was a whole like
uh sci op program of like to collect data from
kids and you know basically, uh, there's a program called
I'm sure everybody loses the show at least aware of
mk ultra a you know, about programming people and trying
to get them to be government operatives. So this is
like the start of that was like the is.
Speaker 3: The tale uh like a Manchurian candidate kind.
Speaker 2: Of yeah, yeah yeah uh And then and the only
real like that somebody was like, oh, I in a
in an online forum, And only real like thing that
people can point to is like, oh, maybe is there's
this online forum on was it cop.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: Corn or and uh but basically this guy, this guy
basically said he has the original m and he had
a picture of it and it showed like the cabinet
and what it looked like, you know, the graphics that
were on it. And then he basically said that, uh
you know that this company called uh sinis is that
how it said? Uh yeah, it's German and it means,
uh what.
Speaker 3: Is it, sensory deletion.
Speaker 2: Sensory deletion, Yeah, same thing. Uh yeah. So basically, like
you know, could be more, couldn't be more of a
creepypasta written kind of you know, like like oh and
it's called sistory deprecation if you look into it, uh
the evil company. Uh but yeah. So he basically said
like he had the original RAMS and he had a
picture of it, and he was off to go find
the company, and then he never came back to like
reveal his findings. Obviously, long story short. This thing it's
not it's not real, you know.
Speaker 4: But you know, back in the day, there was I
don't know, I remember in third grade Timmy was telling
me put a Lambs castle at the Midway mall he
was playing and he went nuts and nobody ever saw
him after that, you know, so I don't know before orange.
Speaker 2: Juice at the top of his head, he said he
was a glass. I mean, like, well, there were some
two incidents of kids getting sick playing in Portland, organ
which is this is supposed to originate from, So in Portland,
Oregon was like the original, the origination origination. Sure, let's
come with that of the story. And there wasn't an
instance of somebody playing a game, like one kid playing
like a game for I think twenty eight hours and
then collapsing or he had a heart attack I think,
or no, no, I think he just collapsed, and then
another kind of like same situation, but these were a
different game and all they were obviously playing too much,
but they were both trying to get a high score.
So it wasn't like some casual kid walking in like
these kids were like, I have a mission, and they
probably they probably had that like thing where they're just
kind of like when you're locked in, you're locked in
and I don't need to I don't need to leave,
Like my son gets that everyone. So I'm like, you
need to eat, dude, have you eaten today? And he's
like I'm good and I'm like, dude, you need to eat.
Just like how they can't unassociate with stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm still locked into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So but yeah, I mean, like, uh, there's a
lot of fun little parts of that. I mean, I
love video games learning in general. It's like my favorite topic,
but one of my favorite topics.
Speaker 4: Because video games would be, you know, a perfect way
to do like a government run psychology experiment or something.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean, I mean he's for other means.
I mean, like the classic nineteen eighty four movie The
Last star Fighter. You know, you could you know, set
up the video game to have somebod play it and
whoever breaks the record you could use them to you know,
go up into space and.
Speaker 3: Save the Earth. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The movie I'm just spitball.
Speaker 3: And I don't I don't really know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the movie Toys with Robin Williams, the same premise,
like there's this general that that was gifted the toy
factory and he was training kids to like basically they
didn't know it, but they were like bombing cities and stuff.
But they were like they don't know that, you know,
but not not.
Speaker 3: But you're talking about the toy.
Speaker 2: Richard Bryor with the dicey plot of owns a black man.
Speaker 3: Would not be uh greenlit today, I don't think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh but yeah, so uh you know, this isn't
like a new plot or anything like that. And it's
for anybody who's kind of like already a little like
dicey about the government, like you know, seeing these things
kind of especially as a kid just being like, oh
my god, the thing that I love, or even just
like a at least a mom's group finding out about
this and then just fullheartedly believing it. I mean, people
who believe in the who see things that are blatantly
AI and they're just like, oh my gosh, like they're
you know, or you know, wish this veteran happy birthday,
but they get like six fingers, You're Okay, this isn't
a real person, you know that, right, Like things like
this don't go viral because it's not a real picture. Yeah,
but but yeah, there's just like within that it's it's
just like it was like red meat for you know,
this situally, like oh there was you know, you don't
want to get taken by the government Tommy back in
the day or something like that.
Speaker 4: But I think did they like ultimately use this to
try to like shut down arcades or stop video games,
kind of like they did with the music industry when
they were doing the Prince a Vice these figures and
stuff like that. Or it was just just straight straight
lore just for gamers or was it there was there
anything more to it as far as you know.
Speaker 2: As far as I read it, this is just pure
lore from gamers. I mean, since there was no like
actual like hits of it actually being a real thing,
and it purely was like you know, an urban legend.
It didn't bleed its way into like real thing. It's
just I think it's just another another arrow in the
quiver of you know, moms who don't want these things
that happen. And I say that there's a level of
so I know that video video games in general get
blamed for a lot of things that happen because you
can there's like a one to one. It's like, oh,
there's shooter games and we have shootings. It's like the
way your brain reacts to one or the other are different.
And I think that either way, Like I mean, you know,
my son plays fall Out and he loves Fallout, but
like When I watch him play, he's just building communities.
Like he's like whatever the like, I mean, sure there's
a gun there, and he does do that stuff, but
he's also just kind of like, yeah, I built this
whole structure and it has three stories and I decorated it. It
will spend like nine hours decorating and then playing the
same like nine songs that he loves. They're like the
nineteen thirties, which I think is so funny. It's just like,
be careful what you do.
Speaker 4: Like I remember you telling me that you know that
they were nineteen thirty songs, and I was just like,
that's so funny. You know, I could totally get in
get into like a you know, grand theft thought of
like Vice City, you know, where they're playing like straight
up eighties music, like that's my jam Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: But he's like the lady told me give me so much.
He's just like just jamming. Dammn.
Speaker 4: He's one hand on the controller, the other hands up
in the air doing the Charleston and he's dancing.
Speaker 2: Well I was I was just this guy talk about it,
and I thought this was pretty relevant because every every
study that has come out about video games being harmful
has been built on the backs of people that sponsored
that study, and uh so you always have to kind
of look at who you know kind of sponsored it
because there's always you know, like if if it's never
done as like an upline test like usually and obviously
everything everything in moderation like no matter what, you know,
Like you know, we drink on the weekends. We just
drink on the weekend. Sometimes Thursday or a bad day
or something like that, but for the most part, like
we drink in moderation, you know. But you go past
that and all of a sudden you go to a
meeting and talk to your family, you know. Same thing
with smoking, it's like you smoke too much. All of
a sudden your length lungs to give out. Everything in moderation,
video games, same thing. You can't play those twenty four
hours a day every day, and then, uh you know,
it's just it just doesn't your brain just can't comprehend that.
But at the same time, like for me, like I
use as a stress believer of like no matter what
I'm thinking about when I do that, like it's the
only thing I'm thinking about. So I'm just kind of like, oh,
the problems are kind of out here now, you know,
I can kind of just be like I am Kratos.
Like the game I'm playing right now is God of War,
and I'm almost to the end of it. I'm replaying
it because I played it uneasy originally because it was
really hard, and I was like, you know what, I'm
gonna go down easy? Who am I trying to? What
am I proving this to? It's only me here? So
I put it on easy, and then I like felt
bad about that forever, and I was like, I've never
played that on like at least regular, So I played
it on regular. Did I just be it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I positive, I'm on the last last thing if you
know what I'm talking about. Anybody's in the thing, I'm
on the I'm on the last Valkyrie Queen. She's so
freaking hard. I might not beat it again.
Speaker 3: I don't care about that.
Speaker 2: I'd already done it once and it was so hard.
But yeah, So it's just I think we're in a
pretty good cycle of just like of people knowing where
like video games stand in the world. I mean, especially now,
like a lot a lot more adults play video games
as opposed to like back then, it was like there
wasn't a lot of adult I mean, there was a
lot of people had access to video games in general,
but like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and your parents are like, well, what are you
doing playing those kids games?
Speaker 4: Well, and well, you know, my generation we grew up
and they you know, well except for me, I'm like
the only person I know that isn't a gamer. And
it's only because at its than there was. I had
hard enough time, you know, on the old you know,
original Nintendo any S system. But uh, you know I
did all right back then, playing Contra and like Super
Mario like the original and stuff like that. But yeah,
they added buttons. You know, I was, you know, started
falling off the wayside. So I like to watch people
play a little bit, but you know, I'm just not
very good at it, so I don't put any time
into it.
Speaker 3: But there's so much.
Speaker 4: Cooler, you know, than than before, and it's so realistic
and you know, you kind of going back to like
the war games and stuff like that. You know, maybe
a game does influence you know, one person to go
out and do that kind of stuff, but how many
millions of other people are just playing it for fun
and they're never going to go do that. You know,
you get to ban all these games because somebody who
probably had their own you know, mental health problems before that,
who probably would have done that anyway.
Speaker 3: Happened to play video games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they already had Arsenal Arsenery. They just happened
to play.
Speaker 4: They had already bedy garage was on fire, but they.
Speaker 2: Just found a game that was very similar to their interests. Yeah.
Just it's just like when you put us a fishing
sticker on your truck. It's like, well, of course I'm
going to get the games that play play the way
I want to act. And yeah, you know, I play
Last of Us because I like shooting zombies and I
really like that story. It's amazing favorite game of all time.
If anyone was asking everybody wondering, Last was part two? Wait,
and then yep, Last was part two, and then probably
Last wast part one two, uh the first one, and
then it would probably be Horizon Zero Down. I have
a affinity for that game. It was the first game
I got with my PlayStation for and I was just
played it and I was just like it like opened
my eyes to like what you could do. I didn't
even know like how to play that kind of game.
It was just like hunting dinosaur robots. And I was like,
this is the best game I've ever played, and then
it was really cool. But yeah, uh, you don't know
what I'm talking about. But people who do, they know
what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: I know a couple of those. You know, my all
time favorite game, Excite Bike Classic, builds your own track,
the only guy to hit one button and go up
and down.
Speaker 2: Exciting honestly, but it's perfect. So sometimes the classic, like
Tetris is still the best game of all time. It's
just simple. Anytime you get somebody Tetris to be able
to like at least be like, oh, I know game
flip and flip down. Like even you know, even my
wife like likes likes Tetris and then and she doesn't
like video games at all, but she's just like she's like,
this is something I can get behind. It's like everything else.
I remember we played this one game with the kids.
It was like a four player game, like old school
Ninja Turtles style, and my if played for like a
minute a half and she's like, my fingers hurt so bad,
and I was like, what do you mean. She's like
it's just so hard to push the joystick. I'm like,
you literally just push it a little to the left
or to the right, and she's just like I'm like
pushing down and then over. I'm like, no, you don't
have to like use any muscle, you just literally like
push a little bit.
Speaker 3: She just yeah, that's how I am.
Speaker 4: I remember like trying to play Halo and stuff like that,
and it's like I can't or even like I see,
like especially my daughter, like a few years ago when
she was still like a little kid playing Fortnite, and
you know, she'd run and jump up in the air
and flip and shoot and kill people, you know, and
then she's like, here, play with me.
Speaker 3: And I run forward, I stop, I turned, I turned back,
I jump, I duck and.
Speaker 4: Then you know, and then I you know, I couldn't
do it like a once. You know, but back in
the day, like at the arcades, when it was just
one joystick and then like your trigger button, you know
something like that. You know, it was really good at
that stuff, you know, you know Galaga, Centipede, you know,
I mentioned Asteroids, Space Invaders, you know, all those you know,
early games. It was really really good at like the
arcade Styll game even even then to like you know,
Street Fighter, Mortal Kanby, Out of Car Warriors, like Rampage,
all those kind of you know eighties style arcade games.
Speaker 3: It was good at that stuff.
Speaker 4: But you know, once once we got to the consoles,
you know, I got to where it was like all
of a sudden, I reached my limit. You know, I
wasn't I wasn't coordinated enough to keep it going after that.
Speaker 2: You know, I was always really good at that actually
got me really good at the Mario games, like I
could I can like, uh, there's there's games that like
who can push a the fastest wherever, like would be
like blowing up a balloon or whatever. And I dominate
every time because of Centipede, because it's just like, you know,
you just shoot the one gun and I'm just like
got it, and I do a thing where I spasm
my finger, I can like make it just like go.
So it's just like and I just dominate everybody, like
nobody can ever be at least in my family, can't
be me.
Speaker 4: I remember the first time in an arcade actually getting in,
finally having a turn, and also having like a dollar
in quarters and sitting down and playing pole position where
you actually sat down in the chair could shift gears.
Speaker 3: She had a gas on a break.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like ten, not even you know, close
to being old enough to drive, and it's like, you
get in this car, it was the coolest thing you
would ever done in your life. You're like, I play
the pole position.
Speaker 2: I remember having like a thought of like driving will
never not be cool, like when I was a kid,
Like I was just like, it's always gonna be rad
I'm gonna love it forever. And I am such a
passenger princess. I will live. I will freaking hate driving.
Anytime my wife wants to drive, I'm like, absolutely, I
hate this stupid I will just sit there in the
car everyone's on. When I have to drive, I'm like,
I drive. I hate it so much, Like I like
driving on long trips, but like if we're like going somewhere,
I'm like, I don't feel like hearing like where we're going,
Like I don't even know how to get to most places,
I said. And every time I do have to drive,
she's like, you don't have to get there. We've gone
to go hundred times, Like you've driven every time, I
don't know where we are at all.
Speaker 4: You're too busy looking outside, you know, watching watching the
side of the road for squatches, you know, yeah, or
doing that thing where.
Speaker 2: You like jump from poll to poll. Did you ever
do that when you're a kid, like you just you
pretend like this a little guy chasing your car. I
found out recently that every you know, like those things
you're like, this is my experience. You find out like
everybody did the same thing. I was just like, how
how do we all do the same thing? That that's
another strange thing that like needs its own little like
I don't know, like experimentation or something. It's like we
all kind of did these own little secret things you
never told anybody about, but well we're all doing it.
Like why was that? Like why is that? If we
just want to zero in on that specific thing, It's like,
why does every single person do that same little trick
in the car? And it's probably just as easy as
like there's stuff passing you and you're trying to pass time,
and so you add a guy, you know, you know,
mine would always be like this kind of like I
think probably when I was into like the crow or stuff,
like that he had like a trench coat. So I
was like, wow, you know, like a weird little dude
like that. It's just really fast, but like, yeah, it's
just freaking weird that we all have. There's just there's
so many things like that. I can't think of it
right now, but that one specifically stands up. But I
wonder if there's anything whatever. I don't know. I have
two examples of so Berserker is another game, but this
is a real game, like a game that is confirmed
is a real game. Back in so there are two
cases of death because of this game or immediately following
playing this game. Jeffrey Daly was in nineteen eighty one.
He was aged nineteen in Illinois. They reportedly died of
a heart attack shortly after scoring sixteen, six hundred and
sixty points on Berserk. He had just finished entering his
initials into the high score list when he collapsed cause
of death heart attack, possibly over astimated by underlying health conditions.
He also had like nothing but coca cola all day,
so and the stress of trying to have the high
score probably contributed to Another one was Peter Burkwick's Burkeer
Whiskey Who's Berkowski? Berkowski? He was eighteen South South Holland, Illinois.
He played Brazik and achieved the high score twice in
a row, shortly after he collapsed and died of a
heart attack. In this case becomes more famous than daily
Is and is often cited as the first video game
related to death. Heart attack reportedly had a congenual heart congenial.
Speaker 3: Heart heart effect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they both had a heart attacks, not because
of the game, not because the game was given anything,
but because they played an insane amount of games.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't I don't care what game it was.
Speaker 4: You know, the one or two times I ever got
the highest score on anything, there was not a better
feeling than putting your initials and see and then off
the top and that feeling of accomplishment and you're like,
everybody's gonna see this.
Speaker 3: You know that that girl from fourth grade is going
to see my name, my three initials in here.
Speaker 2: It's just gonna know it was me. You know, just
puts a little hearts on her note, but with my
initials in between him best at Galaga. Actually, I was
I was watching my son play this Jurassic Park game,
Like basically it's like you're driving around a jeep whatever
and shooting it. And he got insanely far, like I
was like, I died. I played this game before. I'm
not that good at it. And he was just like
I was like, how many cores are you putting this?
He's just like literally the first ones. That's it, Like,
you know, because games are a quarter more than like
a dollar fifty, so well now they're just like a
car that you swipe, which is bull crap. And I hate,
I hate, I hate that arcades don't have arcade games anymore.
They don't have anything. That's just like, they don't have
a Galaica packmen section to go there. It's machines and
ticket chicken shooters. I hate so much. It's stupid, and
I understand why. I just think it's stupid. Yea, the
only archides they have are like barcades, and those half
of those are broken. I just I want them to
make new freaking arcade games, even if it's just a
ported one they poured it from the console and get
make it into a cabinet. Crazy anyway, Yeah, the market's
not there anymore, but still.
Speaker 4: And it's like you we have in Lakewood we've I
think there's a couple in the Cleven area. But you
know those bars that you know have the old video
games stuff and it's cool to go in and and
you know, wax nostalgic and it just you know, have
a couple of beers place, you know, play some Galaga.
Speaker 2: Turtles, man, give four your friends together, play some turtles
like five again. It's great. Yea literally, isn't a isn't
a better feeling? And play some couch co op. I love.
There's a really cool if you guys have kids and stuff.
I can't recommend this game enough. It's called It Takes Two.
If you like playing video games and you like playing
it with like you want to kind of like connect
with kids in like way, there's a game called It
Takes to I played it with my daughter and my son.
It's just really cool. There's there's a horrific part of
the game where you do have to kill your kid's
favorite stuffed animal that's for no reason whatsoever. And I'm like,
I mean, there is a reason for it, but you're
like truly like you won't actually do it right, and
it's horrific. You're just gonna like you tear her arms
off and she's really nice, and you're like, why did
I do this? But I shouldn't do that as the
selling point. I should say this to the selling point.
But like the entire game is so much fun and
so you're interesting and there's things to do every time.
Every new level is interesting and fun to play, and
it's got new mechanics like every every level.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And you guys get to work together, like one one
person can't do what the other person could do, so
you literally have to work together. It's just a cool
way to kind of like bond with your kids, and like,
especially if you don't you're not super into video games.
I think it's a very easy or very good like
kind of like jump off point. So it takes two.
I can't recommend it enough. It's a wonderful studio and
it's about a couple that's getting a divorce and it's
them like rediscovering their love through the things the reasons
why they fell in love love together, like him having
a garden and then like them like, uh, just her
love of song and like all this stuff. I cried
at the end of anyway. Uh, but there's a funny
part at the end. You push. It's like push X
to kiss, and I'm playing with my son and he's
like no. I was like, we gotta do it. Got kiss.
I just thought it was so funny. So a couple
a couple of other weird games that are out there
that kind of have some stigma or some you know,
some lore around them. I guess, uh, the Lavender Town syndrome,
it's a Pokemon Pokemon It's a song within the Pokemon game. Uh.
The early Japanese version, the music in Lavender Town reportedly
caused headaches, anxiety, and suicidal behavior and children. There's no
there's no verifiable deaths or or evident. It's likely internet
hoak started in the twenty ten. However, the creepy music
and setting did disturb many players heading to the mythos.
So now I gotta listen to that song. The kill
screen incident in pac Man. If you guys have seen
the movie King of Kong. First off, seen that movie,
it's amazing, super good documentary about getting the high score
in Docy Kong. And also like, I've never been I've
never like cheered something so hard like the end of
that movie. I was like, ooh, oh my god, that's great.
It's so good, I can't recommend it. It's interesting in
so many ways of like the old school, like all
this old school games and stuff, and about like just
how how they keep scores and stuff, and just this
weird weird man from a Galaxy's Edge or galaxy I
forgot what they call it, but it's fantastic. King of Kong.
Check it out. So pac Man. At level two fifty six,
a bug causes the screen to fill with garbled symbols,
making the game unplayable. Some players believe that the kill
screen could trigger strange glitches or even psych psychological effects,
but that's just a myth. Uh, it's a it's a
programming overflow bug. It's basically.
Speaker 3: I mean, I never saw that. I only got up
to level two fifty five, so.
Speaker 2: They're gonna say too, that's all as far as I've gotten,
that game is not for me.
Speaker 3: Actually it was pretty good.
Speaker 4: At that, but I mean, dude, God, by the time
you get up to like level twenty five, it's moving
so fast, like I don't know how you can.
Speaker 2: Have my hands. My answer is too clammy to be
playing like that. I mean, I would just be the
place would be covered in my palm sweat. Okay, another one, Uh,
what is it? Sudden death from overplaying? You know this
is multiple cases, World Warcraft, Diablo three, StarCraft.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: The community for this is very I've been playing for
three days. I haven't even seen anybody. It's the reason
why things like door dash are such a prevalent industry.
Somebody died after fifty hours of playing StarCraft marathon with
barely barely any food or sleep, and I named Tywee.
Taiwanese man died in an Internet cafe after three day
gaming binge. Uh, cardiac arrest. Probably a lot of moods
in that days.
Speaker 3: You know, it's when you yeah.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know what the layout of this
place was, but you know, it's one thing when you're
playing like World world Craft at home and you're like
sitting in your your favorite chair and you're doing your.
Speaker 3: Thing and you don't eat, sleep for three days or something.
Speaker 4: But if you're actually out in public at a you know,
the internet cafe and everything, I would think that it's
you know, I don't know, I've never really been in
one in Japan or something that would well.
Speaker 2: They're pretty what I what I know is they're pretty
prevalent over there. It's like a thing like, uh, and
it's more like in a New York Like think about
New York City, how that is, Like it would be
less obvious that guy would be there for three days,
like or you just kind of would like write it
off because there's so many like incomfortable.
Speaker 4: Chairs or is he like sitting on a stool? You
know that's my thing, Like I don't know, like, yeah,
what's what's the what's the layout? Like are you on
a couch playing this game? Like how do you get
comfortable enough the system of for three days?
Speaker 2: I you know, I bet a lot of it was
just like like a clot that kind of built up
after sitting for that long. I mean, I think they're
just regular chairs. Like there's nothing I think about like
a slot machine chair. I think i'd be like an
equivalent of comfort. Yeah, I don't know, but uh. There's
another one. It's called the tails Doll Curse from Sonic Ruh.
So if you unlock the tails Doll character and complete
certain conditions, the curse version appears in real life causes
accidents and dauntings. Totally fabricated, an urban legend often related
to creepypasta forums, but scared a lot of kids in
the early two thousands. So you know, going back to that,
you know what, the kids still got it. They still
still got their own little things. I got Sad Satan,
a deep deep web horror game. Sad Satan allegedly found
on the Deep Web by YouTube channel called Obscure Horror Corner.
The game features disturbing imagery, reverse audio, creepy music. Therefore,
theory suggests it's cursed, haunted Earth, or full of subliminal
messaging truth. A version was uploaded publicly, but it's unclear
if it's uh, if it's original. Still considered one of
the Internet's strangest game mysteries. I actually meant to look
into this one more because that was actually interested. Okay,
so all that said, did you have to make as
I have a game? We have a second? All right?
Speaker 3: We're talking about games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this week we're playing a game. Because we're talking
about games. This game is gonna be called, uh, it's
gonna be called video game or metal song.
Speaker 3: We need to have like a little intro music for it,
you know.
Speaker 2: Oh, we're playing a game called metal song or video game.
All right, So first one the title is brutal legend. Ooh,
video game or.
Speaker 4: That's the hard part, Like any of these could go
either way, But I'm gonna go video game.
Speaker 2: Correct. Oh yeah, right, one for one Doomsday Machine.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a song for sure.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you got it, nail it. Uh, it's pretty easy. Well,
I guess I don't know. You don't know.
Speaker 3: Blood Borne, like I don't know any of the video
games blood Born. I don't recall that being on any
Slare album. So I'm gonna go video game.
Speaker 2: It does sound like you gotta write video games. Uh, okay,
Raining Blood.
Speaker 4: Oh, that's definitely a song from This is a song,
and that is a It probably could be a game too,
but I mean it's no you're right.
Speaker 2: It's a Slayer song from nineteen eighty six. Yeah, and
hell Blade, Send You a Sacrifice, Send You a Sacrifice.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go video game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm you're right. Psychological action game from Ninja Theory.
It's actually a very good game. I recommend a lot,
and I recommend playing headphone wearing headphones when you play
it because she talks to herself a lot. It's really
cool because she hears voices of her head and they're like, oh,
we got all right, Bleed the Freak.
Speaker 3: Oh that's song.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, Alsa Chains, Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3: The Trooper, Oh, come on song killing it Iron Iron class.
Speaker 2: I imagine, I imagine it goes come get the Troop.
Speaker 3: Well I won't. I won't do it because we'll get
copyright struck. But Hatred I'm gonna go.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I just want to say at
this point I have made got every single one of them.
Speaker 2: Right, I know I was gonna say I haven't get score.
I'm like, you literally haven't got any rock got it?
Speaker 3: I'm going song on this one as well.
Speaker 2: We got it wrong. It's a top down shooter. I'm
sure there is a song called Hatred though, so it's
almost a half. Yeah all right.
Speaker 3: I jinxed myself, I know, I know.
Speaker 4: Uh, rust in Peace oh classic Mega death song.
Speaker 2: It yeah yeah uh. And then March of the Fire Ants.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go video game.
Speaker 2: That is a metal song by mass add uh the
Old Master That all right? Last one? Let me get
a good one. Blasphemous.
Speaker 3: That's a song.
Speaker 2: It's a video game. It's a soul like schools like
action platformer. We had it on a wrong note. Sorry, well,
oh wait, how about one more?
Speaker 3: We'll finish on a no No.
Speaker 4: Rest for the Wicked please songs well album.
Speaker 2: So strict question, it's both. Yeah, Random Balloon showed up.
It's both. It's Metallica song actually unreleased. It's from a
mobile action RPG too, So whatever you gotta. You got.
Speaker 3: The name of an azzie album. It was Zach Wells
for stuff with the Rest for the Wicked.
Speaker 2: He's on tour with a Panta right now, right yeah? Wrong?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you are people.
Speaker 2: Every time I look in like a comment section about
that tour, they're like, no die bag, no tour, and
I'm like, yeah, but it's like Zack Wild It's not
like it's you're gonna go yeah yeah. I mean he's
killing it all right. Well as we got for this
week with uh belibus. So I appreciate you guys showing up.
Uh you know, uh, I'm showing to make a game
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