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your support. All Right, So there is a fellow named

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Wesley Yang, one of the most acclaimed essayists of his generation.

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He is a writer for National Magazine as well as

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The New Yorker. He is the author of a book

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called The Souls of Yellowfolk. Wesley Yang is his name.

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And he took a look at the crime stats and

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also some of the psychology behind the promotion of certain

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narratives when it comes to crime data. Okay, And as

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I was going over in the last hour, right, this

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whole reform effort in the criminal justice system, it really

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really ramped up in twenty twenty, but it had been

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building prior. Right, It's been going on for like the

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last decade or so. Michael Brown, the Ferguson effect. You know,

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hands up, don't shoot that lie. And so in the

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sort of like the mid twenty tens, around twenty fifteen

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or so, we started seeing just this constant deluge of

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stories of police killing unarmed black men, right. And so

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the first thing Wesley Yang points out is that these

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are statistically rare events police shootings. No, no, actually he's

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talked about black on white, stranger on stranger killings. And

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he's talking about this in the immediate aftermath of Arena

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Zurutzka's murder on the Charlotte light rail line, when that

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video was really because nobody was talking about that story

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except us here in the Charlotte area for about two weeks,

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and then the video, through I think a freedom of

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information act request by local media outlets, got the video.

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The video then spread like wildfire on social media. And

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I always say this whenever I talk about crime data,

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whenever I talk about crime in general, you are way

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more likely to be killed by somebody you know, Okay,

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Like the vast majority of homicides occur with people that

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know each other. It is to satistically, very very rare

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that a random stranger is going to come up and

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murder you, okay. Number one. Number two, Another key point

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here on crime, particularly when you're looking at racial demographics

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and violent crime, it is that the vast majority of

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violent crime occurs in tra racially. In other words, white

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on white, black on black, Hispanic on Hispanic. Right, it's

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you're most likely to be victimized by a member of

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your own racial group. Okay, So always keep that in

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mind because I know a lot of people try to

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stir the pod and they want to racialize thing and

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like make everything about you know, race, But the vast

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majority of the crimes are intra racial, not interracial, and

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you are more likely to be victimized by somebody, you know.

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So keep that in mind. And so he looking at

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this data point of black on white stranger on stranger

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killings because that's what we saw in the Zarutzka murder

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and that film, right, it accounts. This is the data

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he's got is from twenty nineteen. There were four hundred

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twenty eight black on white stranger on stranger killings in

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twenty nineteen, four hundred and twenty eight. That accounts for

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three percent of all murders. That's it. Now, I'm not

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minimizing any one of the victims in any one of

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those cases, right, But that's simply a look at the

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data point. So that's number one, they are statistically rare

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events black on white stranger on strangers three percent of

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all murders. Number two, they are far more common. Those

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like that data point is actually more common than police

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killing of unarmed black men. So that's even rarer. And

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that was the focus of our national obsession for like

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a decade now. There were twelve killings of unarmed black

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men in twenty nineteen as the Black Lives Matter movement

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ramped up to its crescendo. Twelve four hundred and twenty

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eight black on white stranger on stranger killings for twenty

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eight versus twelve, that's the comparison. Yet all the attention

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was on the police killings, the twelve, not the four

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twenty eight. He says, a narrative can easily be fashioned

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online by exploiting what's called the availability heuristic, which causes

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your subconscious mind to confound the vividness and memorability of

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events for their incidents. That is what right wing accounts

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focusing on the black on white stranger killings are doing

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right now. Okay, So from the right and from the

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racialists and stuff, you know, racist people even. You got

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a whole bunch of people that are out there promoting

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and pushing these the videos, and they are tapping into

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this availability heuristic, which is of course what the whole

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of the media did from twenty fifteen through twenty twenty

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for police killings. Right. So it's the same dynamic, same

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thing culminating in the nationwide freakout that put American cities

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in flames and resulted in the deaths of thirty people,

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Which is pretty amazing when you step back and think

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of it, that thirty people died in the social justice

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racial reckoning riots, and that was almost three times as

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many people that had actually been killed by police. Unarmed

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men killed by police there were twelve, but in the

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riots there were thirty deaths. He goes on to say

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this created a pent up interest in re establishing the

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salience of the second point. The second point is that

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there are so few police killings, the goal of which

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is not a nationwide street freak out, but simply the

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changing of prosecutorial policies that allow for the catch and

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release of violent repeat offenders. As I documented in the

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first hour right. That's what happened, the media promoting this

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idea that black men are being murdered all over the

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place by white racist cops, when in fact there was

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like a four hundred you are, it's like four hundred

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percent or four if forty times the data goes the

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other way, black on white, stranger on stranger versus white

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on black police killing again, four hundred and twenty eight

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black on white stranger on stranger killings, twelve police killings

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of unarmed black men. But we get every single thing

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was about the twelve, not the four twenty eight, which

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then allowed organizations, activists and such who, as I went

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over with the MacArthur Foundation, wanted quote unquote reforms, and

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that's how we have the catch and release system that

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we have right now, and people like Arena Zarutzka paid

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the price for it. People are paying the price for

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this catch and release system that was put in place

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using the twelve unarmed deaths per year, using the twelve

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and paying no attention to the four hundred and twenty eight.

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He says, yes, thirty deaths directly attributed to violence during

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the riots and the largest two years spike and murder

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deaths in American history, resulting in thousands of excess deaths

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above the prior baseline as law enforcement was delegitimized for

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several years. Did you know that it was the largest spike,

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The largest two year spike in murder deaths in American

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history occurred after the summer of fiery but mostly peaceful riots.

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Even amidst the spike, the rate remained lower than its

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peak in the nineties because crime had been so thoroughly

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reduced in the prior thirty years, while instances of police

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violence have also declined drastically, a kind of public policy miracle,

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nearly unprecedented in modern history. That's what happened before twenty twenty.

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dot com. All right, so this is from the somebody

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hang on, somebody did ask me where can this article

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be found? Okay, not an article. It was a series

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of tweets that Wesley Yang put out back on or

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around September eighth. See, but that's see that like, that's

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my process. That's my show prep process. I like collect

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stuff and then when I build a topic and then

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i've I've got stuff from you know, it'll go back

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a year or two sometimes and I'll just have all

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of this stuff and then I connect it all together.

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So that's Wesley Yang, and you can follow him on

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Twitter at wes Yang at wes Yang and then just

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go search back in like September. I usually link this

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up on the show prep page at Patreon as well.

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It's free. So here is from FBI crime data from

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the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Bureau of Justice Statistics, okay,

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their Uniform Crime Reporting Program or the UCR. This throughout

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my entire career, this was always pointed to as sort

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of the gold standard when doing crime reporting, trying to

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figure out crime stats, although it seems like in recent

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years some cities have begun juicing these stats as well.

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Some cities don't even participate, they don't tell the FBI

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this stuff. So this is the best that we have

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to go on though, And this is compiled over at

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the Global Statistics dot com website, and it's a breakdown

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crime stats by race. Okay, So first off, remember whites

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make up a majority of the population, so you would

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expect to see the total number of whites arrested to

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be higher than all other racial categories. That's what you

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should expect to see, and that is in fact what

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we do see. Okay, The total number of arrests in

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America in twenty twenty four was just under five point

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eight million arrests. Total arrests of the five point eight

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or sorry, three point nine were whites. Then there was

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another one million Hispanic and one point six million black arrests.

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For violent crimes, there were four hundred seven thousand, So

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out of the five point eight million arrests, four hundred

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seven thousand of them were for violent crimes. And when

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you look at those data points again, whites make up

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just a little under half at one hundred ninety six thousand,

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six thousand. However, if you are looking at proportionality, which

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is what the left has used in order to foment

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all of these quote unquote criminal justice reforms, they would

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say that, okay, four hundred and seven thousand violent crime arrests,

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whites make up sixty percent of the population, therefore sixty

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percent of the arrests should be whites, but it's not.

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number of arrests for violent crimes. And what the thinking

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on the left goes is that, well, that's proof that

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the system is racist, because it's not making the arrest

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of the white person for the violent crime. That has

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been their argument. Going deeper, this is now the percentage

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of the population. As I mentioned, Whites make up fifty

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nine percent or sixty percent, roughly fifty nine percent of

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the population. Hispanics make up nineteen percent, African Americans make

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up thirteen Asian Americans make up six Okay, so white

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Americans fifty nine percent of the population. They are victimized

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fifty three percent of the time. So there's an underrepresentation

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of whites being victimized by crime. But what did I

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say earlier? What was one of the first stats I

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always give? You are more likely right to suffer violent

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crime at the hands of somebody you know, And it's

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intraracial white on white, black on black, which is why

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you see Also African Americans thirteen percent of the total population,

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they are victimized twenty five percent of the crimes. So

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they are they are overrepresented in the victimization category, which

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means what it means that when you have a black offender,

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you have black victims. And the soft on crime time

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policies are actually disproportionately harming Black Americans. And yet we're

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told that this is the humane thing and the equitable

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thing to do, and I just disagree. I think it's

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actually inhumane. I think it's pretty atrocious that you're damning

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people in neighborhoods or in areas in cities to being

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victimized by violent crime repeatedly. They're at greater risk. Why

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would you be doing that and then holding yourself up

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as some sort of moral standard bearer. It's just it's grotesque.

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It's just grotesque. So when I was a kid, my

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grandpa died with Alzheimer's, and before he died, my mom

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and my dad took care of him as he got worse.

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Forty years ago, there were no treatments and not much

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support for caregivers and family. But things are different today

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because of the work of so many people, including the

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Alzheimer's Association of Western Carolina. It's a great organization with

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all awesome people with huge hearts. I've been a supporter

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for twenty five years. This cause means a lot to me.

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I participate in the annual Walk to End Alzheimer's and

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I'm leading a Charlotte team again this year and it's

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For a different future, for families, for more time for treatments.

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This is why we walk in going over the FBI

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crime data again. This is for twenty twenty four because

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obviously we don't have all of the data for twenty

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twenty five. Yet they have and this is I remember

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every year when they would put out this UCR, the

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uniform crime reporting numbers, and Charlotte would show up on

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the list, and some publication would do like, here are

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the most dangerous cities, and they would rank the cities

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based on the UCR data, and the police chief and

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city officials would come out and they would do a

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press conference with us, and they would say.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't look at the totality of all of the factors,

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and blah blah blah blah blah, right, trying to tell

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us that we can't rank the cities, that it's not

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fair to rank the cities based on the violent crime

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per capita.

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Speaker 1: That's not it doesn't take into account all of the

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various factors involved. Okay, of course it can't. It's just

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telling you the crime data. And when you have all

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of the crime data for all the different cities and

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states and you have it broken down on a per

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capita basis, then yes, it is entirely appropriate to rank them.

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Here is the city with the highest crime per capita,

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and here's the city with the lowest. Here's the state

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with the highest and the state with the lowest, and

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they break down the data in various ways, and this

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is per one hundred thousand inhabitants. Okay. The United States

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total for violent crime three hundred and fifty nine violent

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crimes per one hundred thousand people, three point fifty nine

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per hundred thousand. Okay. When you look at what's called

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the metropolitan statistical area, which is usually larger than just

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the city, you know, you've got like, well, let me

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see here, we've got I've got Charlotte's here. Yeah, so

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Charlotte's MSA includes Charlotte, Concord, and Gastonia. Used to have

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rock Hill in there, but I think they kicked rock

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Hill out and they moved Concord in or maybe Gastonia,

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I forget, but twenty five years ago it used to

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be rock Hill. So for the metropolitan statistical area, the

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rate is actually higher. It's not three point fifty nine

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per one hundred thousand, it's three seventy six, three hundred

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seventy six. All right. Now, if you look at cities

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that are outside a metro area, it's actually much lower.

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You're down at now three thirty eight, three hundred thirty

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eight crimes instead of again US total three point fifty

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nine msas or cities three seventy six. Cities that are

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outside the MSA three thirty eight. So that's what hmm like,

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fifty fewer crimes per hundred thousand violent crimes per one

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hundred thousand people simply by being outside of a city.

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And this is again based on the same per capita account,

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So it's one hundred thousand people, which means you are safer,

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in other words, less likely to be the victim of

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a violent crime if you live outside of a city.

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All things being equal, that's what the data shows in

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the non metro counties per hundred thousand people, it's not

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at three thirty eight, it's not at three seventy six

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as it is in the cities. It's one hundred and

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ninety five one ninety five. You are far less likely

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to be the victim of a violent crime if you

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live in a non metro county in America. Okay, so again,

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let's take a look at the UH state numbers again.

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US total three point fifty nine, three hundred and fifty

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nine violent crimes per hundred thousand North Carolina, not three

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fifty nine, three seventy six. That's what North Carolina is,

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three seventy six per one hundred thousand. South Carolina four

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hundred thirty seven per one hundred thousand. I don't know

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what's happening in South Carolina. Obviously a lot of island crime.

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I know that's Look, that's the data per one hundred thousand,

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four hundred thirty seven per hundred thousand. Now I will

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say that North Carolina is lower than the Oh no,

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I take it back. We were lower, yeah, not really

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for the last that was look at twenty twenty three.

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So the crime has dropped from twenty three to twenty four,

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but we are still above the regional per capita number

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by like fifteen violent crimes per one hundred thousand. So

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North Carolina is by and large a pretty dangerous state

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based on the FBI crime stats. Now, how about Charlotte.

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I'm glad you asked. I have that as well, Charlotte, Concord, Gastonia, MSA.

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This includes Anson, Cabaris, Chester, Gaston, Ayerdell, Lancaster, Lincoln, Mecklenburg, Rowan,

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Union and York counties as well as Charlotte Mecklenburg. Our

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number four hundred and twenty seven violent crimes per one

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hundred thousand, four twenty seven. So that's higher than the

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state averag it's almost to the South Carolina state average,

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and it is way above the US average. Okay, that's

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the comparison. So when you hear the local officials say, oh, well,

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the crime has dropped in the last year, and although

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we did have like four homicides this weekend, we are

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still more dangerous. We are more dangerous in the cities

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than in the counties. We are more dangerous than the

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US per capita number on average. That's what the data is.

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Back to the write up at Global statistics dot com,

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violent incidents involving white offenders was lower than the share

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of white persons in the population. Their representation in violent

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crime is proportionally lower than their population percentage, suggesting different

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victim is a and defending patterns across racial groups. African

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Americans are the primary group arrested for murders, robberies, and

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weapons violations. That's the primary group, despite representing only thirteen

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percent of the total US population. The share of violent

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incidents involving black offenders was greater than the population percentage

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of black persons, highlighting disproportionate representation in violent crime statistics.

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Why see, that's the rub right Why and what the

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left has told us for the last fifteen years is

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systemic racism. It's somehow another, not the the attacker's fault,

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it's not the criminal's fault or something. It's the system,

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it's the society, it's everything else. And that prompted the

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types of programs and trainings that the MacArthur Foundation has

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embedded throughout the country, including here in Charlotte Mecklimber, which

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is how you end up with a catch and release

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So I mentioned in my stack of stuff in my

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prepping process, I sometimes accumulate stories. They sit in the

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prep stack for a very long time, Like for example,

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I have a Google document and I put links into

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this Google document, and if I don't get to it,

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it just keeps kind of getting pushed down the list,

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you know, and sometimes I'll group them together by topic

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or something. But I had to archive one Google document

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because it became eighty paid long of just links to stories.

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And so now on my second Google document and I

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saw this morning. I was up to thirty pages. So anyway,

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that's how I end up with this story connected to

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the crime stats. And this story is from August twenty

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twenty three. Okay, but it's connected. Florida State University criminology

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professor Eric Stewart was a guru of the claim that

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systemic racism infests America's police and American society, and then

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they found out that his data was crap and he

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was out of a job. The academic was fired after

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almost twenty years of his data were found to be

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in question. Okay, he had figures that were used in

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an explosive study which aimed the legacy of lynchings in

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America made white people perceive black people as criminals and

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that this problem was worse among conservatives. College authority said

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he was being fired for incompetence and false results. Among

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the studies he has had to retract were claims that

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whites wanted longer sentences for blacks and latinos. To date,

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six of Stuart's articles published in major academic journals like

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Criminology and Law and Society Review. Between two thousand and

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three and twenty nineteen. Six of his major published articles

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have been fully retracted after allegations that his data was

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fake or so badly flawed it should never have been published.

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The professor's termination came four years after his former graduate student, Justinicket,

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blew the whistle on his research. Think about that. It's

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the only reason why this guy got canned. All these

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studies that were supposedly peer reviewed in these respectable publications,

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very science and data right. No, it took a grad

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student to blow the whistle on his fabricated data. Pickett

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said they had worked together in twenty eleven researching whether

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the public was demanding longer sentences for black and Hispanic

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criminals as those minority populations grew, and the paper that

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they put together claimed they did claimed the public was

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demanding longer sentences as the minority populations got larger, but

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Stuart had fiddled the sample size to deliver that result

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when the real research did not. When the investigation into

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Stuart began in twenty twenty, he claimed, you want to

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think a guest, Yeah, he was the victim. He claimed

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to be the victim, and that his grad student that

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worked with him, Justin Pickett quote. This is his quote.

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Eric Stewart's quote. That Pickett quote essentially lynched me and

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my academic character. You know, Justin Pickett didn't do that

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to you. After sixteen years as a professor of criminology

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at Florida State University in Tallahassee, Provost James Clark formally

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notified him that he was being terminated that summer. This guy,

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Eric Stewart. According to Google scholar, he and his work

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were cited almost nine thousand times by other researchers. This

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is the same scandal, like the same thing that James Lindsay,

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Peter Burgosi, and Helen Pluckrose did with the Grievance Studies affair,

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where they put fake papers into publications in order to

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prove that they're not peer reviewing anything and they're just

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looking for the headline. They want some research to confirm

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their prior opinions and biases. That's what this guy did,

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no difference. All right, that'll do it for this episode.

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