1 00:00:02,319 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: You're listening to Petlifradio dot com. 2 00:00:08,519 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 2: Welcome to Animal Rights on pet Life Radio. I'm your host, 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,839 Tim Blink, and thank you for joining us today. We 4 00:00:15,919 --> 00:00:19,480 have a very exciting day. My guests today are Alan 5 00:00:19,559 --> 00:00:23,160 and Linda Anderson. They'll be talking with us today about 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,320 several of their books, including the recently released book Dogs 7 00:00:27,359 --> 00:00:29,920 and the Women Who Love Them So Dogs and the 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,359 Women Who Love Them, So we'll talk a little bit 9 00:00:31,399 --> 00:00:33,439 about that book, as well as one or two of 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,079 the other books that they have, because they got a 11 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:36,320 great selection of books. 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: Now. 13 00:00:37,359 --> 00:00:40,759 Speaker 2: Dogs and the Women Who Love Them celebrates k nine 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,200 female teams who form deep bonds of companionship that will 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,439 result in courageous acts of love and healing through the 16 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,799 dogs as well as the women and all the people 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,359 who lives they touch. So it's going to be it's 18 00:00:54,399 --> 00:00:56,079 a great book, and we're going to delve into that 19 00:00:56,159 --> 00:00:59,000 here shortly. But first i'd like to share share some 20 00:00:59,119 --> 00:01:01,640 information with you. Always like to share interesting articles and 21 00:01:01,679 --> 00:01:04,120 interesting tidbits that I think everybody would be interested in. 22 00:01:04,799 --> 00:01:07,640 There's a great article that I read recently in a newspaper. 23 00:01:07,879 --> 00:01:11,920 As you know, the elderly and disabled sometimes have difficult 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,719 times taking care of their pets, especially when their pets 25 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:18,640 have certain health conditions that I take a constant care 26 00:01:18,719 --> 00:01:19,879 or constant companion. 27 00:01:19,879 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 4: You know. 28 00:01:20,079 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: It takes a lot of opportunity and effort on behalf 29 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,599 of the elderly well. At Colorado State University, there's a 30 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,439 program that veterinarian students can participate in and it helps 31 00:01:29,519 --> 00:01:32,840 animals stay in their homes. The program is called Pets 32 00:01:32,879 --> 00:01:37,159 Forever and in the article a Schnauzer named Pocket, which 33 00:01:37,159 --> 00:01:39,200 you all know him A big fan of Schnauzers with 34 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,760 my boy name was. The article covers the schnauzer named Pocket. 35 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,359 He was featured and was shown being given in home 36 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,920 treatment for his diabetes by a veterinarian student. His owner 37 00:01:49,159 --> 00:01:51,319 or human companion as I like to call him, who 38 00:01:51,359 --> 00:01:53,799 is an elderly and disabled, thought that she would originally 39 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,200 have to give up Pocket or help him transition because 40 00:01:57,239 --> 00:01:59,480 she could no longer take care of him. She couldn't 41 00:01:59,519 --> 00:02:02,439 do it on her. However, thanks to this program at 42 00:02:02,439 --> 00:02:05,400 Colorado State University, Pocket could stay with his owner for 43 00:02:05,439 --> 00:02:07,719 the rest of his life and receive the care that 44 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,599 he needs to manage his diabetes. It's always great to 45 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,840 read about special programs like this, special programs that are 46 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:17,479 making a positive difference for pets and for people. And 47 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,919 if you'd like to learn more about the Pets Forever 48 00:02:20,039 --> 00:02:23,960 Program at Colorado State University, please go to my blog 49 00:02:24,199 --> 00:02:26,639 on pet Life Radio. Go to the Animal Rights blog 50 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,439 on pet Life Radio and click to the link and 51 00:02:29,479 --> 00:02:30,800 now I'll take you to the website so you can 52 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,080 read more information about it. So big kudos to Colorado 53 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,439 State University and their veterinarian program, the Pets Forever Program, 54 00:02:37,759 --> 00:02:41,000 and from my understanding, they're looking to expand this. So 55 00:02:41,039 --> 00:02:43,759 if you know other veterinarian schools in your area or 56 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,120 universities in your area that have vetinarian schools, may want 57 00:02:47,159 --> 00:02:49,639 to lead them to this link from my blog, maybe 58 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,520 get them involved. Be great to have this available across 59 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,240 the nation to help the elderly. And I know it's 60 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,680 a challenge. My little boy Buzz, he has diabetes and 61 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,360 we have to give him in shots twice a day, 62 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,639 and the challenge is he doesn't like doing him on 63 00:03:03,719 --> 00:03:05,919 his own, so it takes my wife and myself to 64 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,800 sort of get him in the mood to get his shot. 65 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,520 She's the brave soul that gives him his shot every day, 66 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,280 and I just simply encourage him to comfort him and 67 00:03:14,319 --> 00:03:16,639 rub his little cute, little pink cheeks to get him 68 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,439 calm down so he could take his diabetes medicine. But 69 00:03:19,479 --> 00:03:22,039 it is a challenge, and so we applaud to Colorasta 70 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,159 University and Pets Forever program. So check it out on 71 00:03:25,199 --> 00:03:27,599 my blog, the Animal Rights Blog. On pet Life Radio, 72 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,439 go to Petlifradio dot com. 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That's for Pets 114 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:17,439 every week only on Petliffradio dot com. 115 00:06:17,639 --> 00:06:23,199 Speaker 11: Let's Talk Pets on Petlife Radio dot com. 116 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,639 Speaker 2: Okay, welcome back to Animal Rights on pet Life Radio. 117 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,759 Joining me now are Alan and Linda Anderson, who, through 118 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,199 their many books and through their Angel Animals Network, they 119 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,199 help people discover and benefit from the miraculous power of animals. 120 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,720 You know, they're dedicated to promoting human animal companionship and 121 00:06:40,759 --> 00:06:43,439 the idea that pets are family. Alan and Linda also 122 00:06:43,439 --> 00:06:45,480 donate a portion of their proceeds from their work to 123 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,199 animal rescue organizations to my all time favorite people. So 124 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,680 I want to welcome on board Alan and Linda Anderson. 125 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,160 Thanks for joining Animal Rights program on pet Life Radio. 126 00:06:54,399 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 12: Thank you for having us. 127 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's great to talk to you guys again. 128 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,040 And this book is fantastic book, Dogs and the Women 129 00:07:02,079 --> 00:07:04,160 Who Love Them. And I know the last time I 130 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,720 tease you a little bit because I want to see 131 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,000 the next book, which is Dogs and the Men Who 132 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,240 Love Them. That's the one I want to see next too. 133 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:12,120 But I know it's hard to get us guys to 134 00:07:12,319 --> 00:07:15,560 actually put something in writing, let alone our emotions in writing. 135 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,839 So I understand why you went this route. 136 00:07:18,839 --> 00:07:20,959 Speaker 4: Instead, where are we going to have dogs and the 137 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,639 men who love them written by the women who love 138 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:24,160 the men. 139 00:07:24,519 --> 00:07:27,519 Speaker 2: That's right, poking them a little bit, proud of them 140 00:07:27,519 --> 00:07:29,199 to get the work done. I think that's a good 141 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,079 way to do it. So tell us a little bit 142 00:07:31,079 --> 00:07:33,000 about the book and what inspired you to write the book. 143 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 12: Well, it's interesting, you know, over the years, we've been 144 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,959 collecting stories from people all around the world about their 145 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,959 amazing experiences, and you know how much they've grown because 146 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,319 of animals in their lives, especially that bond between an 147 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:48,560 individual and their dog. And you know, most of the 148 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,079 stories that we receive, both in our contest and just 149 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,079 people that want to send them stories to maybe be 150 00:07:54,079 --> 00:07:56,800 published in our online newsletter the Story of the Week, 151 00:07:57,279 --> 00:08:01,120 or from women, and it's just there's just beautiful from 152 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:04,240 these stories. I often went around when we went our 153 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,959 our Midwest book tour, I went to different cities. I 154 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,959 would ask the audience. I would say, why is it 155 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,040 that a woman, a woman can achieve incredible things in life, 156 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,720 can do all the things that she wants to do 157 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:18,560 in life with a canine at her side and not 158 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,600 necessarily a fellow, and I would get lots of answers, 159 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,959 and that's that was one of the reasons why we 160 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,519 really wanted to share these stories. 161 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 162 00:08:27,399 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: I love the little quote on the back from Betty 163 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,440 White when asked, Betty, you never remarried, how can you 164 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,879 live alone? And her answer was, It's simple. My golden 165 00:08:36,879 --> 00:08:41,399 retriever Pontiac is my saving grace. So I do think 166 00:08:41,399 --> 00:08:43,600 the animals, obviously, they play a key role in our lives, 167 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,639 key role in our hearts. They are part of the 168 00:08:45,639 --> 00:08:49,720 family unit. And you know, sometimes women, I think I 169 00:08:49,799 --> 00:08:51,960 understand that a little bit better than us guys do. 170 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,960 It takes us a little bit longer to let that 171 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:54,879 sink in, I believe. 172 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 4: Well, we also have a really fun section at the 173 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,240 beginning of the book where we have a few of 174 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:04,679 the shorter stories from women who had the dogs as 175 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:09,960 their protectors but also as their love detectors. And you know, 176 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,240 they kind of when a guy would come, they would 177 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,200 get they would get a reading from the dog about 178 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,120 whether or not this guy was a keeper or not. 179 00:09:18,759 --> 00:09:22,279 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I do a lot of consultations as a communicator 180 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,559 for people and their animals. And yes, just recently I 181 00:09:25,639 --> 00:09:28,159 had one of those where the relationship was stepping up 182 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,000 to the next level, but the dog wasn't quite ready 183 00:09:31,039 --> 00:09:33,159 for that relationship to step up to the next level. 184 00:09:33,639 --> 00:09:37,200 So we had to put some methods and techniques into 185 00:09:37,279 --> 00:09:40,440 play to try to have the dog get a little 186 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,240 bit better understanding of the boyfriend. And I think, fortunately, 187 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,240 I believe that relationship is still going strong, so that's 188 00:09:45,279 --> 00:09:45,799 good news. 189 00:09:46,159 --> 00:09:49,399 Speaker 12: Well, I have one recommendation for the guys who are 190 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,639 dating a woman that has a wonderful dog and a 191 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,360 companion lots of treats. Ah with you. 192 00:09:58,879 --> 00:10:01,759 Speaker 2: Bribe the dog, he always works. Yeah, if you went 193 00:10:01,799 --> 00:10:03,559 over the dog, you have a better chance of even 194 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,320 winning over the ladies. So that's very important. Now you 195 00:10:07,399 --> 00:10:10,000 mentioned also there is a wide variety of stories in 196 00:10:10,039 --> 00:10:11,840 the book. I know it's very hard to do when 197 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,159 I'm gonna put you on the spot. Do you have 198 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,240 a favorite one that comes to mind that sort of 199 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,720 warmed your heart or gave a good laugh to you. 200 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,879 Speaker 4: Well, I think one of my favorites is it's a 201 00:10:20,919 --> 00:10:25,039 story about a woman who from Chicago who has a dog, 202 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,879 had a dog named Miguel, and she and her husband 203 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,960 rescued the dog. He was a Newfundland mix, I believe, 204 00:10:33,519 --> 00:10:37,360 and they really just love this guy. And she would 205 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,039 take him for walks in their neighborhood. And their neighborhood 206 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,320 was near him a school that was kind of in 207 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,960 an inner city area, or at least inner city kids 208 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,559 were coming to that school and there were some children 209 00:10:47,639 --> 00:10:51,279 walking to school and oftentimes the kids would want to 210 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:56,120 play with Miguel because Miguel loved to chase tennis balls. Well, 211 00:10:56,159 --> 00:11:00,000 this one morning, a little group of eight year olds 212 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,799 stopped her and asked could they play with Miguel, and 213 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,879 she said yes, and she noticed one of the little 214 00:11:04,879 --> 00:11:07,679 boys was kind of ill Kempton looked like he was 215 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,879 really having a rough time in life. He looked in 216 00:11:09,919 --> 00:11:12,600 a lot worse shape than the other ones. And so 217 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,279 at the time, at the end of the play period, 218 00:11:16,279 --> 00:11:18,639 then they asked could they go back to her condo 219 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,600 with her because she had mentioned that Miguel had seventy 220 00:11:21,639 --> 00:11:25,399 tennis balls and they all wanted to play. And she 221 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,200 never allowed this before, and she to the day didn't 222 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,159 know why she did, but she brought She said okay, 223 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,399 and the little boys came back and she said, you 224 00:11:33,399 --> 00:11:36,679 could play until the first school bell rings. Well, while 225 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,559 the other children were playing with Miguel, this little boy 226 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,919 who should call Paco started looking at her art books 227 00:11:43,919 --> 00:11:47,399 and she was really surprised because she wasn't acpecting that. 228 00:11:47,519 --> 00:11:51,200 And over the course of time, to make a long 229 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,120 story short, Paco and Miguel and she and her husband 230 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,559 Roger formed this very very deep friendship and eventually became 231 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:05,159 a family way because Paco his family was really in 232 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,759 pretty bad shape and he was going through a bad time, 233 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,639 and they let him start coming over to their house 234 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,519 and they wound up helping him with his education and 235 00:12:17,039 --> 00:12:19,200 you know, going to the doctor, and all of a sudden, 236 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,879 this was all just you know, because they all grew 237 00:12:22,919 --> 00:12:26,720 to love each other. And later in the story she 238 00:12:27,399 --> 00:12:31,480 says that she asked Paco later about why did you 239 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,399 want to, you know, to come here and to make 240 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,120 friends with us, and he said, well, my grandmother had 241 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,480 just died, and I saw how much you loved Miguel, 242 00:12:40,919 --> 00:12:43,919 and I wondered if you could love me too, And 243 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,519 so this was just a beautiful start in it. And 244 00:12:47,039 --> 00:12:52,159 the story ends with Paco's daughter, Princess, who's now said 245 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,639 of like their granddaughter and they're doing the same things 246 00:12:55,639 --> 00:13:00,000 for her, taking her soccer games and our music practice 247 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,919 and things like that. And it's just a terrific story 248 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:09,039 about how families can form around a dog who is 249 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,879 really special, like Miguel was, and the love that is 250 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,480 the factor that puts these families together. 251 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, you know they have a purpose. There's a 252 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,279 reason for them to be in part of our lives, 253 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,240 not only that heart connection that we have, but also 254 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,000 to teach us and expand our lives, in this case, 255 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,200 expand our families so everybody can share in the love. 256 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 7: Now. 257 00:13:31,919 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: The book Dogs and the Women Who Love Them was 258 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,879 recommended recently for dog lovers by Oprah Winfrey's Oh magazine. 259 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,440 So what do you think of that when that happened. 260 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:42,600 Was that a complete surprise to you? 261 00:13:42,919 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 12: Well, we were shocked and delighted, and it was definitely surprised. 262 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,440 But it was something that this book really needed because 263 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,960 it has so many special stories and for it to 264 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,039 have a wider audience was. 265 00:13:54,799 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: Important, absolutely, And I'm sure that helped a little bit 266 00:13:58,159 --> 00:14:02,320 having that as a recommendation by Oprah Winfreezo magazine. 267 00:14:02,399 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 4: A lot with just being able to tell people. 268 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,919 Speaker 2: That, just like a dog, your ears perk up a 269 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,320 little bit more when you hear Oprah's name around something exactly. 270 00:14:13,399 --> 00:14:18,159 Speaker 4: Incredibility, you know, really rose with that one, exactly, and 271 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,279 it's a it's a big deal. 272 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:20,639 Speaker 2: I mean, it really is. And I tell people that, 273 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,879 you know, I know quite a few friends and colleagues 274 00:14:22,879 --> 00:14:26,600 of mine that have been on Oprah's television show was on, 275 00:14:27,039 --> 00:14:31,320 and that didn't necessarily mean increase business and exposure until 276 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,360 Oprah gave sort of the thumbs up that this is 277 00:14:33,399 --> 00:14:36,039 something you should do or something you should purchase, et cetera. 278 00:14:36,559 --> 00:14:40,080 Then it was like the golden ticket to Willie wonk Land. 279 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:40,840 I believe. 280 00:14:43,039 --> 00:14:46,279 Speaker 4: People often have told us that they read one of 281 00:14:46,279 --> 00:14:48,919 our books and they say, oh, you should be on Oprah, 282 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,759 And we say, oh gosh, why didn't we think of that? 283 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: Exactly? If it was that easy, you know, great, give 284 00:14:55,399 --> 00:15:01,159 Oprah a call. I'll be glad to that's great. Well, listen, 285 00:15:01,159 --> 00:15:02,720 we're gonna take a break here in a minute, but 286 00:15:02,759 --> 00:15:05,120 we'll come back and continue our conversation with Alan and 287 00:15:05,159 --> 00:15:08,639 Linda Anderson. Write off these messages from our sponsors, So everybody, 288 00:15:08,799 --> 00:15:09,799 stay tuned. 289 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,679 Speaker 5: Six stay would be right back after a short pause. 290 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,159 Well four to be exactly. 291 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 6: Love your pets but wish their medications were a lot 292 00:15:25,279 --> 00:15:28,440 less expensive they are. 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This is 332 00:18:14,759 --> 00:18:18,200 the place for a special puff Ronzi treat only on 333 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,279 pet live radio dot com. 334 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 3: Let's talk past, Let's don pet headline. 335 00:18:28,799 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 5: Radio, pet live radio dot Com. 336 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: Okay, welcome back. You're back with Animal Rights on pet 337 00:18:38,799 --> 00:18:42,279 Life Radio. We're here with Alan and Linda Anderson, just 338 00:18:42,319 --> 00:18:44,440 talking a little bit about their book, dogs and the 339 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,039 women who love them. But I'm gonna switch gears a 340 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,160 little bit, and as you all may know, Alan and 341 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,720 Linda are the founders of the Angel Animals Network that's 342 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,720 been around since nineteen ninety six and it serves a 343 00:18:56,839 --> 00:18:59,599 wonderful purpose for people that are trying to better understand 344 00:18:59,599 --> 00:19:02,160 their relationship with their animals and get through the healing 345 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,960 process when animal has made its transition, among other things. 346 00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:07,920 So Alan Linda tell us a little bit about the 347 00:19:08,039 --> 00:19:10,400 Angel Animals Network in and go ahead and provide the 348 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:11,599 website as well. 349 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 12: Well. We decided, i mean years ago, I think it 350 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,359 was nineteen ninety six when we started this whole process, 351 00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:20,480 that we wanted to do something that would bring love 352 00:19:20,559 --> 00:19:22,839 back to the world. And we had our day jobs, 353 00:19:22,839 --> 00:19:25,440 we had all our responsibilities, but our kids had grown 354 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,319 and they had had their lives of their own. So 355 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,960 you know, one day we were walking on the lake 356 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,119 and we had the time our dog tailor and she 357 00:19:31,279 --> 00:19:33,680 was smiling and having a great time because she loves 358 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,559 her walks and people as they walk by, would look 359 00:19:35,599 --> 00:19:38,440 at her and smile, and you know, your dog is smiling, 360 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,799 They would ask us, and it just brought joy to 361 00:19:40,839 --> 00:19:42,480 their lives. I think a lot of the people that 362 00:19:42,559 --> 00:19:44,960 walk by seemed to be troubled or seemed to have 363 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,240 challenges that we all do, but when they saw a 364 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,039 dog's face like that, they seemed to perk up and 365 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,240 lighten up a little bit. So we kind of got 366 00:19:52,279 --> 00:19:54,519 the idea, well, you know, maybe maybe we can start. 367 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,839 We love animals, we loved them all our lives. We've 368 00:19:56,839 --> 00:19:59,680 always had pets, very close pets. Maybe we can start 369 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,519 ask a question and seeing what kind of response we get. 370 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,599 Have you learned? And at the time, we said spiritual 371 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,200 lessons from animals, but more like the lessons that make 372 00:20:08,279 --> 00:20:11,000 us the very best people we can be, like courage 373 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:13,200 and love and empathy and all the things that make 374 00:20:13,279 --> 00:20:16,079 us really shine in life. So we asked people, have 375 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,400 you learned these lessons from a relationship with a pet 376 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,640 or animals in nature? And we put that on the 377 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,720 bulletin boards at coffee shops and at grocery stores, and 378 00:20:24,799 --> 00:20:26,960 back then the internet was sort of starting, but we 379 00:20:27,319 --> 00:20:30,519 put a few things out on the internet. Within about 380 00:20:30,519 --> 00:20:34,960 thirty forty five days, we had hundred stories, wonderful stories, 381 00:20:35,039 --> 00:20:37,240 amazing stories. They said, I've never been asked that, and 382 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,640 I never told this story before because people would think 383 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,160 I was crazy, But they really, really, people really wanted 384 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,599 to share what they've learned and all the amazing things 385 00:20:46,599 --> 00:20:49,039 that animals have been in their lives. So Linda came 386 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,920 up with the idea of the actual term angel animals 387 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,559 and Linda, did you want to say a few more 388 00:20:55,599 --> 00:20:56,400 words about that. 389 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 4: Well, the idea angel came because the Greek derivation for 390 00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:05,440 that word is a messenger. And what we realized, and 391 00:21:05,799 --> 00:21:09,880 you know, what we thought we suspected other people were understanding, 392 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,000 is that when you were having a tough time in life, 393 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,680 no matter what was going on, it seemed like there 394 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,000 would always be one of these little angels come in 395 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,839 and give you the message that you're not alone and 396 00:21:20,839 --> 00:21:23,359 that you're loved. And so that seemed to be kind 397 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,920 of the appropriate term angel animals. 398 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,319 Speaker 12: Well, we built up, we built it up. We started 399 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,759 a printed newsletter and it was subscription based, and back 400 00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:36,200 then we had subscribers from around the world. We even 401 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,240 had to have a couple who opened up a small 402 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,240 office in London because of all the subscribers in Great Britain. 403 00:21:42,519 --> 00:21:45,599 It was really fun. And then we got an agent 404 00:21:45,799 --> 00:21:48,400 and we did it a book proposal and we did 405 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,279 our first book in nineteen ninety nine called Angel Animals 406 00:21:51,279 --> 00:21:55,200 exploring our spiritual connection with Animals, and from there we've 407 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,400 been writing books every year. 408 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: That's amazing a journey by taking a walk on the lake. 409 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,319 Speaker 4: Can you imagine that with your dog? 410 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: That's right looking back? This is just wonderful to hear 411 00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:09,079 the stories. How you know, God has a purpose for 412 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,240 us all and we have a reason for being here. 413 00:22:11,279 --> 00:22:13,640 We may not see it or understand it at the time, 414 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,279 but when at times presented, we need to act upon it. 415 00:22:16,319 --> 00:22:18,440 And it's obviously what you guys had done and have 416 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,160 been very successful and sending a great message and helping 417 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:26,400 people and animals as well. Absolutely, you definitely have now 418 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,200 one of the books that I use this sort of 419 00:22:28,279 --> 00:22:30,240 my reference guide and I help people out, you know 420 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,960 when people are trying to get through that grieving process 421 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,279 and understanding things. Is saying goodbye to your Angel animals 422 00:22:35,759 --> 00:22:39,359 Finding Comfort after losing your pet, which is a fantastic 423 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,519 book and it's definitely one that I refer people to 424 00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:43,799 all the time, because you know, I receive a lot 425 00:22:43,799 --> 00:22:46,720 of calls from people who are grieving and really need 426 00:22:46,759 --> 00:22:50,480 the support for themselves and for their families whenever their 427 00:22:51,079 --> 00:22:54,200 furry family members made their transition. So tell us a 428 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,920 little more about saying goodbye to your angel animals and 429 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,240 what makes that such a powerful book in helping that 430 00:22:59,279 --> 00:23:01,680 healing process us when you're trying to understand it on 431 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:02,799 when your pet has passed on. 432 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 4: Well, one of the things that is really based on 433 00:23:06,519 --> 00:23:09,960 all these years of people sending us their stories and 434 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,920 talking to us about how they're feeling and what they're 435 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,119 going through when they have lost a pet, and then 436 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,599 we kind of, you know, did our own had our 437 00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:23,720 own experiences, and we realized that we wanted to kind 438 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,000 of build the book around the poem that that people 439 00:23:27,039 --> 00:23:30,799 love so much, the Rainbow Bridge, and so we structured 440 00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:34,599 the book so that people could look at the colors 441 00:23:34,599 --> 00:23:38,240 of the rainbow and use those as ways to think 442 00:23:38,279 --> 00:23:41,559 about their pets and honor them, and then the bridge 443 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,279 would be the ways that people could heal from that loss. 444 00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:49,000 And so that's how we structured the book. And we 445 00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:52,920 also included memorial services because that was one thing that 446 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,440 we definitely saw was and particularly at the time this 447 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,160 book came out. At the time, there was just hardly 448 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,319 anything available for people they really wanted to have a 449 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,000 service for their cuts where if they wanted to, they 450 00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:08,319 could invite friends and family members and people could tell 451 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,400 stories about, you know, the special times they had with 452 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,160 that particular cut, and they could have some kind of closure, 453 00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:18,480 like saying that you have when people pass away. And 454 00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:22,559 so we created three types of memorial services that people 455 00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:25,079 could either use as they were a mix and match 456 00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:28,279 and depending on what your spiritual beliefs were, or if 457 00:24:28,319 --> 00:24:30,799 you had if you wanted one that was based on 458 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,759 the cycles of life and nature, and it was up 459 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:35,880 to you to decide what you wanted to use. And 460 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,839 people have just told us that these have helped them tremendously. 461 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 12: There are meditations sprinkled throughout the book, and often when 462 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,880 you lose a pet and you know, we have the 463 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,640 same feelings as that we become angry at ourselves for 464 00:24:49,799 --> 00:24:52,640 not seeing it earlier, angry at ourselves or not doing 465 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,960 what we think would have been better in helping the 466 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,319 pet live longer. One of the meditations is titled anger 467 00:24:59,319 --> 00:25:02,079 and Forgiveness. And you know it reads I acknowledge all 468 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,440 my feelings and accept what they are naturally expressions of 469 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,680 my grief overloving you. I am angry about what caused 470 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,839 you to die. I want to shake my fistmer scream 471 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,440 at the caregivers who did not save your life. I 472 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,480 am angry at God for taking you away too soon. 473 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,519 It upsets me that you left this world even though 474 00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:21,759 I still needed you. What can I say, or think 475 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,839 or do to forgive myself and others for not being 476 00:25:24,839 --> 00:25:27,720 able to stop you from dying. I mean, a meditation 477 00:25:27,839 --> 00:25:30,559 like that is very powerful because you begin looking inwardly 478 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,599 and you begin thinking about, really, this anger is not 479 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,400 doing any good at all. I've got to find a 480 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,680 better way. And of course there are other meditations for 481 00:25:39,759 --> 00:25:43,000 different aspects of the greeting process. It's a beautiful book 482 00:25:43,079 --> 00:25:46,640 helping people heal and move forward and remember the love. 483 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,599 Always remember the love that that beautiful pet, that dog 484 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,079 or cat or whatever the animal might be, has brought 485 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:52,720 to their lives. 486 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,279 Speaker 2: Absolutely, it does bring that message about. I think it 487 00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:59,039 really helps understand. It helps people better understand that whole 488 00:25:59,079 --> 00:26:01,319 process and how to get through that healing process. And 489 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,720 it is a very spiritual book, but it's not driven 490 00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:08,480 by any particular religion or concept. I think there's the 491 00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:10,839 whole book's fantastic, but there are pieces in here that 492 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,359 resonates a particular section is going to resonate more with 493 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,640 some people than others, and vice versa. So it really 494 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,599 covers the whole gamu and I think and really helps 495 00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:21,319 people understand that whole transition process. 496 00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:25,839 Speaker 4: Well, we tried to design it that way because we 497 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,079 didn't want people to feel like, well, you know, they 498 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,039 have to believe everything that's in this book and agree 499 00:26:32,079 --> 00:26:34,119 with everything that's in this book, and we didn't want 500 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,799 that to happen. But one of the things that we 501 00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:42,519 noticed was that, and we addressed this very straightforward and 502 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,640 lead in the book, is that many times there's a 503 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,200 real disconnect between the person, how the person feels about 504 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,400 animals on the afterlife and seeing their animal and heaven 505 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,599 and that sort of thing, and what they're being taught 506 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,400 in their churches or by their clergy or and just 507 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,720 you know, comments that people in their congregation make that 508 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:10,519 are you know, just devastating to them because they're judgmental 509 00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:13,519 and they make the person feel like there's something wrong 510 00:27:13,559 --> 00:27:15,559 with them because they want to see their animal in heaven, 511 00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:19,119 and so we have a whole section on that about 512 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,640 how to deal with that sort of thing. 513 00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's very powerful. And you know, 514 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,720 I think going back to what you said earlier, Alan, 515 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,039 you know, us humans, we have a tendency to beat 516 00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:30,160 ourselves up over everything, and with the loss of a pet, 517 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,640 is that holds true as well? We do go through 518 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,160 that what it should have could have wish it would 519 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,720 have caught it sooner? Did I do enough? Does he 520 00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:40,799 hate me for allowing that to happen? And I think 521 00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:43,200 it is a time also to reflect, you know, whatever 522 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,480 your religious beliefs are. People go into that reflection and 523 00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:49,119 wonder what happens to the animal when it does pass on. 524 00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 4: Well, it makes them think about the whole idea of 525 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,480 death in the afterlife in general, and about their own 526 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,640 And so it's very complicated when a pet dies, and 527 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,960 it's really complicated for children. A lot of times it's 528 00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:06,920 their first experience with the death of well of anyone, 529 00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:10,519 and so the parent has to try to figure out 530 00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:13,000 how to talk to their child and how to help 531 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:13,880 their child through this. 532 00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and that's a great point. Is there any particular 533 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,799 advice that you have when dealing with the transition of 534 00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:21,960 a pat when dealing with your. 535 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,599 Speaker 4: Children, well, one of the things that we talk about 536 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:29,720 is using art as a way. A lot of times 537 00:28:29,759 --> 00:28:34,160 they can't express themselves in words. But if you get 538 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,200 them to draw a picture of a pet in the 539 00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:39,200 family and the things that you used to do together, 540 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,279 a lot of times a child will talk while they're drawing, 541 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,880 or they'll be able to tell you about the drawing, 542 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,880 and it helps to get them to express what they're feeling, 543 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,920 even though they may not be able to put it 544 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:51,680 into words. 545 00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a great idea. 546 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 7: You know. 547 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: I also recommend to people, especially when they have children, 548 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,440 or even if they don't have children, a great healing 549 00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:01,440 process is to get a scrap book. Get a scrap 550 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,039 book or a picture book, put your favorite pictures, put 551 00:29:04,039 --> 00:29:07,240 your favorite scrap books, little pieces of toys, whatever it 552 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:10,000 may be. It's sort of not only something you can 553 00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:14,079 reflect back onto and eventually turn those that sadness into 554 00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:16,279 happiness because you'll remember all the great things the animal 555 00:29:16,599 --> 00:29:18,839 meant to you and had done, but it's part of 556 00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:22,200 that whole healing process. So scrapbook, doing pictures, putting that 557 00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:24,400 into the scrap book or putting that on a refrigerator. 558 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,079 I think it's a great idea to help the children 559 00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:27,559 understand what that's all about. 560 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 12: Well, that's a beautiful idea. They really would have liked that. 561 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,000 One other aspect to the memorial services, there is one 562 00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:39,759 that is for people who don't necessarily have strong religious beliefs, 563 00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:43,039 one that is oriented towards cycles of life and nature 564 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,920 and really allows those who want to have a tribute 565 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:49,400 to their animals who have died to do it in 566 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,799 a way that doesn't compromise their own personal beliefs in 567 00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:53,240 some way. 568 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Well, let me ask you a little bit about religion. 569 00:29:56,759 --> 00:29:59,640 You know, I was asked I was contacted last Sunday 570 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,079 by a family that had a cat that was making 571 00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:06,599 its transition and the question, which is not the first 572 00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:08,680 time I've been asked this, but the question came about 573 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,039 of you know, in the Bible, there's no particular reference 574 00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:15,599 or a scripture or anything that references the animals go 575 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,279 to this place we call heaven. Now, being members of 576 00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:21,119 the clergy, are there any particular passages or scripture or 577 00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:24,000 anything that you reflect to when people need that closure 578 00:30:24,039 --> 00:30:28,400 from a religious standpoint, needs some reference to fall back on. 579 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 4: You know, I hate to get into doing Bible for people. 580 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,359 Speaker 12: We do have one thing that was on the air 581 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,839 and in the book in one of our books Billy 582 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,400 Graham quote which he said, if you want, if it 583 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,720 will make you happy, your pet will be in heaven 584 00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:51,200 there with you. And that was something that he says 585 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,279 freely and tells anyone that you might ask him. But 586 00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:57,319 that's that's probably as close as we're going to get 587 00:30:57,319 --> 00:30:58,119 to doing Bible. 588 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,319 Speaker 2: We need to have a different radio show for that 589 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,400 kind of debate. Yeah, you know, I try to get 590 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,519 to that point too, because I know, you know, I'm 591 00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:07,680 not a Bible scholar by any means, more of a 592 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,359 spiritual person in general, and I believe everybody has right 593 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,599 to pick their spirituality, pick their path to and belief system. 594 00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:18,640 I just try to let them know that the obviously 595 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,119 animals are brought here for a purpose and in our lives, 596 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,079 and there's no reason that that purpose shouldn't continue a 597 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,799 do we leave this world. So not getting into a 598 00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:29,279 great debate here, that's not what we're for. But that 599 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,839 is something I could ask periodically that they seem to 600 00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:34,480 want to have that closure in that part that closure 601 00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:38,480 is to get into passages of scripture. 602 00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:42,519 Speaker 4: Comforting to people who refer to the Bible for their 603 00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:46,759 spiritual benefits. So you know, it's true that they really 604 00:31:46,839 --> 00:31:49,240 like things like that and it helps them a lot. 605 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,279 Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely. 606 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,519 Speaker 4: I just want to mention one thing. This is another 607 00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:56,640 book that is full of all these types of Bible 608 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,240 quotes about animals in the afterlife, and it's called There 609 00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:03,799 Is Eternal Life for Animals and it's a book based 610 00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:09,880 on Bible scripture by Nikki Rikus Shanahan, and she has 611 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,720 a whole series of books now that where she has 612 00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:15,079 done a lot of research and found a lot of 613 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,480 Biblical passages that seem to bring comfort to people. 614 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,559 Speaker 2: Very good. Thank you for bringing that up. We'll definitely 615 00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:22,799 get that message out as well. 616 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,319 Speaker 4: It's a resource that we have listed in the back 617 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,839 of our book Saying Goodbye to Your Angel Animals. 618 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,839 Speaker 2: Very good. So I'll continue to reference people over to 619 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,920 Saying Goodbye to Your Angel Animals, and then they can 620 00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:36,799 obviously pick up that book as well if they need 621 00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:39,160 further help. I think they'll go a long way by 622 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,200 just reading reading your book Saying Goodbye to the Angel Animals. 623 00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:44,440 So as we're starting to wrap up here. Is there 624 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,599 any projects or anything you want to talk to the 625 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,200 audience about, Ange promotions, anything you guys have going on. 626 00:32:49,839 --> 00:32:52,079 Speaker 4: Well, we're continuing to work with dogs and the women 627 00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:54,200 who love them, and right now we're writing our next 628 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,279 book which is about animals healing and comforting children. It's 629 00:32:58,319 --> 00:33:00,839 going to be called Animals and the Kids Love Them. 630 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: Very cute. 631 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,839 Speaker 4: We're working on the stories now to listend to our editor. 632 00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:08,079 Speaker 2: For that good deal, so we'll be keeping an eye 633 00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:09,519 out for that, and you have to let us know 634 00:33:09,599 --> 00:33:10,799 when that's going to be out so we can have 635 00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:12,880 you guys back on to talk about that one as well. 636 00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:15,799 Speaker 12: And we're always looking for stories for our Andrew Animal 637 00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:18,839 Story of the Week, which is an online newsletter, subscription based. 638 00:33:18,839 --> 00:33:21,839 It's free as every Saturday goes out, and if people 639 00:33:21,839 --> 00:33:24,559 want to learn more about that, they can visit angel 640 00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:26,680 animals dot net and subscribe. 641 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,559 Speaker 2: All right, so you can go to Angel Animals dot 642 00:33:28,599 --> 00:33:30,880 net and subscribe to that, and of course there's it 643 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,319 is Angel Animals network dot com as well to learn 644 00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:35,400 more about your your books and everything going on. 645 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 12: Yeah, I saw the one same website, but yeah, absolutely 646 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:38,720 everything is. 647 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: There, Okay, sounds great, So everybody check that out. I 648 00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:44,079 encourage you to check out everything Allan and Linda Anderson 649 00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:46,440 are doing as well as you know, contribute your stories. 650 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,240 It's it's not only great to see your stories possibly 651 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:53,079 and in writing, whether it's through the newsletters or possibly 652 00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:55,640 through a future book, but it's it's great just to 653 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,079 get that word out there. You're helping so many people out. 654 00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:00,799 You're helping the animals out, and your help yourself out. 655 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,200 I think it's a great, great healing process to put 656 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,359 that out there. So courage everybody to go put a 657 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,800 little note down yet, share your stories and send them 658 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,519 over to Alan and Linda Anderson. So once again, we're 659 00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:13,719 going to wrap up here shortly. I want to thank 660 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,840 Alan Linda Anderson, thanks for coming on board to Animal 661 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,840 Rights on Pet Life Radio. It's always a pleasure talking 662 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,360 to you both. 663 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 12: Thank you, Thank you. 664 00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 2: All Right, so we're just talking to Alan and Linda Anderson. 665 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,039 We're going to wrap up here just a few minutes. 666 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,960 We're coming to the end of the show today. If 667 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,800 you can believe it, it goes by so quick. I'd like 668 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,280 to thank everyone for listening to Animal Rights on Pet 669 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,639 Life Radio. I'd also like to thank once again Alan 670 00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:39,280 and Linda Anderson for being on the show today. Make 671 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,719 sure you check out all their books, but the latest one, 672 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,159 Dogs and the Women Who Love Them. I want to 673 00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:46,079 thank our sponsors and the producers for making the show 674 00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:48,679 possible today. Do a great job. Thanks for all the 675 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,480 sponsors as well. To find out more about me, timlink 676 00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:54,199 and other podcasts that I have done on animal rights, 677 00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:57,599 check it out by going to petlife radio dot com 678 00:34:57,639 --> 00:35:01,039 and click on the Animal Rights picture and you'll learn 679 00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:04,519 more about me as well as download this show and 680 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,880 other podcasts and blogs that I've written on there as well. 681 00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:10,079 While you're there, be sure to check out all of 682 00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:12,719 the other hosts and shows on pet Life Radio two. 683 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,119 If you have any questions or comments or ideas for 684 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,159 this show, please email them to me. You can email 685 00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:22,000 them at Tim at petlifradio dot com. It's Tim at 686 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,840 petlife radio dot com. Be glad answer any questions you have, 687 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,440 entertain any comments, and take any show ideas. We're always 688 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,519 looking to bring on the best writers and experts that 689 00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:34,400 we possibly can, So anyone you want to hear about this, 690 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,280 writing about pets or have pets in their lives, We're 691 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,840 glad to see if we can get them on the board. 692 00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:41,800 So until next time, write a great story about the 693 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,599 animals in your life, share it in a blog, article, 694 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,079 or book, and who knows, you may be the next 695 00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:50,320 guest on animal rights. Thanks for joining us today. 696 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 11: Let's talk pets every week on demand only on Petlifradio 697 00:35:56,159 --> 00:36:03,760 dot com. 698 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 3: Pat Atta