Speaker 1: It's night's time with Dan Ray.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you Boston's video. Al thank you, thank you
Speaker 2: very much for my intro. Jack Hart is here doing
Speaker 2: double duty telling people watch out for pedestrians as you
Speaker 2: leave the Esplanade area. You ain't kidding. And we're sharing
Speaker 2: July fourth stories here, some political, some just happens on
Speaker 2: the fourth of July that this event, this story took place.
Speaker 2: We have a phone call and I've got two fourth
Speaker 2: of July circumstances to bring up. I'll leave it up
Speaker 2: to you, Jack, Do I take the call now tell
Speaker 2: my stories or take a call down then push that
Speaker 2: button Nancy and say, Dennis and Loe, welcome aboard.
Speaker 1: Well, good evening, gentlemen. Nice to be aboard. Nice to
Speaker 1: have you all the time staying here. Yes, there's so
Speaker 1: many different stories just from a history lesson, like we
Speaker 1: had fifty six signers, five from Massachusetts, Damn Adams, John Adams,
Speaker 1: Albert Jerry, which we got jerry mandering from John Hancock
Speaker 1: and with the biggest signature because he said, you want
Speaker 1: to make sure they could read it. And one thing
Speaker 1: I saw.
Speaker 3: This actually, by the way, by the way, people forget
Speaker 3: Ben Franklin signed the Declaration of Independence, although it was
Speaker 3: from Philadelphia. He was representing Pennsylvania, but he was he
Speaker 3: was lived in Boston till he was seventeen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was also the oldest signer too, he
Speaker 1: was seventy years old. But one sactoid I saw was
Speaker 1: that forty eight of the fifty six signers were actually
Speaker 1: born in America. I was kind of surprised by that,
Speaker 1: say year so it wasn't American? Yeah, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: Well by that time, it would you say forty eight
Speaker 3: were born in America?
Speaker 1: Did you say, yeah, forty eight out of fifty.
Speaker 2: Six fifty six?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the what goes by that time, you know, people
Speaker 3: had been here as colonists for one hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 2: People forget that. People have many of one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty years.
Speaker 3: So you know, they were pretty well in trench. They
Speaker 3: were probably seventh eight generations.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and out of the status just quickly. Because there's
Speaker 1: one other thing I want to talk about, Like seventeen
Speaker 1: of the signers lost everything that they had, and I
Speaker 1: think it was like nine, you know, died in the revolution.
Speaker 1: They paid a price. A lot of them paid a price.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, a lot of people paid a price but that's
Speaker 3: how important it was.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all right. Locally, I wanted to talk about
Speaker 1: like Lowell is right next to Chansford, and Chansford has
Speaker 1: a fabulous Fourth of July parade. I think it's you.
Speaker 1: I think it's either the second largest in Massachusetts or
Speaker 1: third or fourth in New England. I mean it's like
Speaker 1: over fifteen twenty thousand people watching. It's like two and
Speaker 1: a half miles long. They have a race before then,
Speaker 1: a two mile race, and they have like one hundred
Speaker 1: different elements that participate in at all age levels. All right,
Speaker 1: first I'll talk about the race. They have like eighteen
Speaker 1: hundred people in the race.
Speaker 2: What type of race automobile footrace?
Speaker 1: No, No, this is a foot race to begin with.
Speaker 1: And you have people, well, babies from with strollers, the
Speaker 1: mothers from eight months to people who are eighty years old,
Speaker 1: you know, and type of thing. So it's a they
Speaker 1: like eighteen hundred people participate in that in the morning
Speaker 1: before the parade, and the parade has so many different elements,
Speaker 1: a lot of people dressed up in colonial uniforms and
Speaker 1: so forth, and a lot of bands obviously, and attractors,
Speaker 1: old cars. I mean, it's just a such a I'm
Speaker 1: trying to make a word of malegnan.
Speaker 3: It's an event wow, an old fashioned, an old timey parade.
Speaker 1: Yeah really, and they've been doing it for like over
Speaker 1: fifty years. Also fifty five years since nineteen seventy. So no,
Speaker 1: I'll just say I was involved in the parade and stuff,
Speaker 1: and in front of me were cut scouts, I mean
Speaker 1: have all ages and they're probably like eight, nine, ten,
Speaker 1: eleven years old and they toss out they toss out
Speaker 1: candy to the people along the sides. And there's many
Speaker 1: many children along the side three four or five six
Speaker 1: years old that you know, like run into the street
Speaker 1: to pick up the candy and stuff like that. It's
Speaker 1: quite an eventage. It's really hot warming. That's Jansford, Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: Yeh, don't make a bigger thing about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know they don't publicize it as much, but
Speaker 1: as I told you, they have great attendance, great participation
Speaker 1: in the in the people, you know, dress up all right,
Speaker 1: this is the best dressed pot though there's a fellow
Speaker 1: who dresses up like one of Johnny Depp's characters, Captain
Speaker 1: Jack Sparrow. Okay, and I'll tell you I thought he
Speaker 1: looks just like him.
Speaker 2: You know, I would make up your braid, your beard,
Speaker 2: and you put colorful beads in that braid. Those braids,
Speaker 2: ye try try corner hat.
Speaker 1: Yes, and it's Captain Jack, that's him. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 1: got to find.
Speaker 2: A three masted boat and paint black swan on the fantail.
Speaker 2: But there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know if that would make it down
Speaker 1: the parade anyway, A good idea. So anyway, gentlemen, thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on and talking about for the July stories.
Speaker 2: Dennis, thank you, thank you very much, And I'm going
Speaker 2: to tell a quick one before the break, and then
Speaker 2: another one after the break. The movie blown Away with
Speaker 2: Jeff Bridges. That made me think of it when we
Speaker 2: played the clip of Jeff Bridges celebrating eight generations ago
Speaker 2: somebody in his family was killed on the opening day
Speaker 2: of the skirmish. And Jack, do you remember the movie
Speaker 2: blown Away?
Speaker 3: I do remember the movie blown Away if I saw it.
Speaker 3: I saw it only once.
Speaker 2: What was so unbelievable about that movie?
Speaker 3: What was so unbelievable and unbelievable the ship blowing up?
Speaker 2: No, they the climactic scene took place the Esplanade fourth
Speaker 2: of July celebration.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, you know, I tell you the other I
Speaker 3: only saw it once, a very long time ago.
Speaker 2: It melded into a car chase scene. Oh yeah, all
Speaker 2: the people, a couple one hundred thousand people at the esplanade.
Speaker 2: There's no way you could move a car one foot
Speaker 2: for at least an hour at the end of the event.
Speaker 2: That's right. And I always just shook my head when
Speaker 2: I saw that. And now it's time for me to
Speaker 2: give phone numbers six one, seven, two, five, fourth, ten
Speaker 2: thirty or eight eight, eight nine two nineteen thirty. If
Speaker 2: you want to do what I last called it, call
Speaker 2: in and just share memories of July fourth with us.
Speaker 2: Jack Cart and me here filling in for Danre. I'm Morgan,
Speaker 2: and time and temperature excuse me, eleven point fifteen nine degrees.
Speaker 3: You're on night side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
Speaker 3: news radio.
Speaker 2: I've been telling you for the best day and a half.
Speaker 2: Dan is off. He won't be back until the fourteenth
Speaker 2: of July that Monday, but he'll be here eight o'clock sharp.
Speaker 2: I promise you. I am here. I'm Morgan, a colleague
Speaker 2: of mine. Mister Jack Hart is here, and Jack, I've
Speaker 2: got a BZ related July fourth story, okay, and then
Speaker 2: I'll let you tell your story, and then hopefully we'll
Speaker 2: get an avalanche of phone calls. We have one now,
Speaker 2: but anyway, it was July fourth, either eighty three or
Speaker 2: eighty four, nineteen eighty three, eighty four. Bill Flaherty said, Morgan,
Speaker 2: you want to do trivia at the Esplanade on the
Speaker 2: fourth of July. Stupid me, I said, yes, you got.
Speaker 2: Now you've seen my act, you know. I asked trivia
Speaker 2: questions and if I've got forty fifty sixty seventy people,
Speaker 2: I can handle that with no problem. You try asking
Speaker 2: what did the Beverly Hillbillies call the swimming pool? In
Speaker 2: front of a couple hundred thousand people. It did not
Speaker 2: go as smoothly as I wanted it to go. But
Speaker 2: one of the things that caught my attention that I
Speaker 2: remember to this day, about two dozen people were going
Speaker 2: to be made natural citizens. They took the tests, they
Speaker 2: passed the tests, and they were going to receive their
Speaker 2: papers and the acknowledgement of being citizens at the July fourth.
Speaker 2: Jack the pride on the people. They're about a couple
Speaker 2: dozen of them who were going to be given this citizenship.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Jack, and I'll never forget the look
Speaker 2: on those faces. They had to study, obviously and take
Speaker 2: that test. I'm sure it's ten times harder than the
Speaker 2: ged test. And they passed, and they learned their history,
Speaker 2: and they were there. Most of them were dressed in
Speaker 2: some form of red, white and blue. Yep. And the
Speaker 2: pride from ear to ear I still can recall forty
Speaker 2: odd years later, and that's so it is. Wow. Now
Speaker 2: you said you had a couple of Fourth of July stories.
Speaker 2: I got a couple of things going on here. You know.
Speaker 3: The Fourth of July was first the first read in
Speaker 3: Boston on July seventeenth, I believe it was, And it
Speaker 3: was a Colonel Ebenezer Craft of the Colonial Forces who
Speaker 3: read it. His house eventually became that restaurant out in
Speaker 3: out near Sturbridge, the Public House. But any rate, he
Speaker 3: was on the he stood on the balcony of the
Speaker 3: old State House. Now the balcony of the old State
Speaker 3: House was when they built that thing, that was waterfront property.
Speaker 3: Anybody who's spent any time in Boston knows where the
Speaker 3: old State House is down near government Center, but at
Speaker 3: one point in time that was waterfront property. So you know,
Speaker 3: effectively by looking out there, the next thing that you're
Speaker 3: looking at directly across from you would be of course England.
Speaker 3: So the balcony was on the was placed on the
Speaker 3: eastern side of what was known as the Townhouse when
Speaker 3: the British built it in seventeen thirteen, so that anybody,
Speaker 3: any British, British representative, British agent, making a speech to
Speaker 3: the colonists gathered below, we'll not only be facing the colony,
Speaker 3: but would he effectively be facing the king, you know.
Speaker 2: And even though that was three thousand miles away roughly.
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, sure, but he was still facing the king,
Speaker 3: facing England. So on July seventeenth, Colonel lebanezer Kraft walked
Speaker 3: out on that very same balcony and read the Declaration
Speaker 3: of Independence to the.
Speaker 2: People who were gathered down below. They hearing it for
Speaker 2: the first time.
Speaker 3: So for all intents and purposes, he was reading that,
Speaker 3: he was reading it directly to the king, and who
Speaker 3: was reading it directly across to the king, just as
Speaker 3: a British representative would have. And so that's you know,
Speaker 3: so that's what happened on that at that particular balcony,
Speaker 3: which always thought was ironic. But then in seventeen seventy six,
Speaker 3: Kevin White stood on that same the mayor of Boston
Speaker 3: at the time, stood on that same balcony with the
Speaker 3: Queen of England and presented her with a check for
Speaker 3: six million some odd dollars, as I recall, essentially to
Speaker 3: pay for that was the seventeen seventy six dollar value
Speaker 3: of the tea that was destroyed.
Speaker 2: Three And was that an actual.
Speaker 3: Check or prop No, it was an actual check. He
Speaker 3: actually paid for the tea.
Speaker 2: I never heard that story in my life, but I'll
Speaker 2: remember it now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, people don't realize that that's really
Speaker 3: the tea Party is really what changed everything. What people
Speaker 3: don't understand is that up until the time of you know,
Speaker 3: after the Boston Tea Party, the England punished, the King
Speaker 3: of England punished Boston severely. The course of acts as
Speaker 3: they came to be known, which included that, you know,
Speaker 3: that the local government was abolished, and the port of
Speaker 3: Boston was blocked, and the the the and the the
Speaker 3: the people who were living here in Boston were now
Speaker 3: which charge with having to provide housing and so forth
Speaker 3: for these soldiers, and so forth and so on. So
Speaker 3: up to this point, while everybody is protesting, just about
Speaker 3: everybody was in Boston was protesting at the time, but
Speaker 3: only about five percent of the people in Boston, only
Speaker 3: five percent of the people in all the colonies, which
Speaker 3: are only about two and a half million people, and
Speaker 3: all the colonies at the time, but only about five
Speaker 3: percent of them had any interest in actually seceding from
Speaker 3: the from the British government, from Great Britain and becoming
Speaker 3: a separate country. Up to that point, everybody who was protesting, well,
Speaker 3: excuse me, I just swalled of something wrong. Everybody was protesting,
Speaker 3: was protesting for their rights as British citizens. These people
Speaker 3: were trying to become more British. These people were trying
Speaker 3: to fight for their rights under British law. And so
Speaker 3: up to that point, these people are trying to become
Speaker 3: more British. Once the Tea Party kicked in and Boston
Speaker 3: was as people believed it to be, Boston was severely
Speaker 3: abused by George the Third and Parliament. That's when people
Speaker 3: in other colonies started to realize things could happen there
Speaker 3: as well, and that was really the turning point where
Speaker 3: the interest in becoming a separate country, seceding from England
Speaker 3: and becoming a separate country went from about five percent
Speaker 3: of the people to about ninety five percent of the
Speaker 3: people after that. And so that's you know, that's the
Speaker 3: importance of the Tea Party leading up to the declaration
Speaker 3: of independence.
Speaker 2: The eleanor the Dartmouth and the beef and the beaver.
Speaker 2: And if I'm not mistaken, you would know, correct me, please,
Speaker 2: wasn't there another tea party ship down in the Cape
Speaker 2: Hyenas of someplace Plymouth?
Speaker 3: Well, reality of life is that up and down the
Speaker 3: entire coast by this time, by seventeen seventy three, a
Speaker 3: lot of people, or a lot of people in most
Speaker 3: of the colonies were refusing to unload the tea from
Speaker 3: the ships and to store it so and tying up
Speaker 3: the ships essentially so they wouldn't take it out of it.
Speaker 3: They wouldn't take it out of the ships because actually
Speaker 3: the tax had actually been lifted on the tea, but
Speaker 3: England was selling it at cheaper than the tea that
Speaker 3: John Hancock was smuggling it in, and other smugglers were
Speaker 3: smuggling it in from the Netherlands, and so up and
Speaker 3: down the coast there were effectively, for all intention purposes,
Speaker 3: tea parties up and down the coast. It's just the
Speaker 3: differences is that in Boston the rebels destroyed the tea
Speaker 3: as opposed to just not unloading it.
Speaker 2: How did they come up with that six million dollar figure,
Speaker 2: because it definitely was much less than that in seventeen
Speaker 2: seventy three.
Speaker 3: Well, he goes, they didn't have dollars in those days.
Speaker 3: It was well, you had about three hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: chests of tea, and however much tea was in each chest,
Speaker 3: I don't know, but one way or another they calculated
Speaker 3: it out that whatever the price was, that whatever whatever
Speaker 3: the dollar vac would have been, because you know, the
Speaker 3: dollar dollar, you know, dollars and cents and and money
Speaker 3: was very different in seventeen seventy three than than it is.
Speaker 3: You know that it has been from the late eighteen
Speaker 3: hundreds of mid eighteen hundreds up until now. Money was
Speaker 3: a completely different, different concept.
Speaker 2: You know. Okay, So where did Kevin White get the
Speaker 2: six million dollars from Boston's treasury or what?
Speaker 3: I don't know where they got the money from I
Speaker 3: don't know from where it came the money, but one
Speaker 3: way or another they came up with an idea that
Speaker 3: that it was, that was the value of it, and
Speaker 3: and just and just paid for the tea. I don't
Speaker 3: know if that's the I don't know if six million
Speaker 3: is the exact amount, but you know, it was somewhere
Speaker 3: around there.
Speaker 2: It was a big number. Yeah, yeah, six million, even
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy six is a big number. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 2: you know, to you not to imagine what it would
Speaker 2: be now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's you know, fifty years fifty years later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that seventy six is fifty years ago, thank god. Scary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that'd probably be worth you know,
Speaker 3: they're probably paying you know, like a probably about twenty
Speaker 3: two million dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would wonder where mayor Will would get
Speaker 2: that kind of check if Kevin White hadn't have done that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. If all things being equal, we've got
Speaker 2: a monarchal now would be Charles representing England, Charles the
Speaker 2: Third Yep, yep. I'm just curious about these things. Now,
Speaker 2: if you want to call in, someone's just called in, Loretta.
Speaker 2: Let me do a news hit couple of commercials and
Speaker 2: you will be the next person. I guarantee anybody who
Speaker 2: else wants to call in. Jack and I hear, and
Speaker 2: we're trying to give you both political and just every
Speaker 2: day July fourth stories. We've covered a lot of ground
Speaker 2: with some of these stories, but I'm sure you know
Speaker 2: one or two that you might want to share with
Speaker 2: thirty eight states and parts of Canada. So you can
Speaker 2: do that. I'll give you the phone numbers once again,
Speaker 2: six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty or eight eight, eight,
Speaker 2: nine to nine, ten thirty. Please you got a story
Speaker 2: share with us? I mean Jack and I have gone
Speaker 2: this far sure between Loretta's call and just Jack and I.
Speaker 2: If need be, we can kill a half hour, can't we, Jack?
Speaker 3: Oh, we can kill it. We canna murder it. We
Speaker 3: can enlive at it and then rich it as well.
Speaker 2: There you go. So I'm about to take my break
Speaker 2: about a minute early, and let me just do my out.
Speaker 2: Cue time and temperature. We were on night Side eleven twenty
Speaker 2: nine sixty nine degrees.
Speaker 3: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Speaker 3: Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: That girl is poison. I'm sorry every time I hear
Speaker 2: Belle biztevo, I have to sing one of those two songs,
Speaker 2: I see. And are you ready to take a phone
Speaker 2: call Jack? Absolutely, Let's go to Melrose and speak with Loretta.
Speaker 2: Loretta happy fourth of July.
Speaker 4: Yes, thank you very much. I heard a couple of questions.
Speaker 4: I mean, one is, none of the necessarily did the
Speaker 4: fourth July. But Francis Kakey who wrote the scat Spangled Banner,
Speaker 4: which I guess a was a poem? What where was that?
Speaker 4: I've held different things?
Speaker 1: Was it for?
Speaker 4: Was that Fort.
Speaker 3: Henry was at Fort Sumters during the War of eighteen twelve?
Speaker 1: Eight?
Speaker 4: Allsoe that wasn't during the Revolutionary War?
Speaker 2: No? No, no, not at all? Where of eighteen twelve?
Speaker 4: The the eighteen twelve and Fort Sumner was?
Speaker 3: Where down in uh?
Speaker 2: Mary Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, down down in Maryland, I believe. And and
Speaker 3: uh the U? And who's the who's the writer there?
Speaker 3: Francis friends got key he was a lawyer and he
Speaker 3: was being held on a British ship out in the
Speaker 3: harbor U And right, No, that's.
Speaker 4: What I was. That's why I wanted to ask where
Speaker 4: it was located, because someone told me it was Henry
Speaker 4: and I said, no, that's that's like George. So there
Speaker 4: was sounder and I'm also I was told that there
Speaker 4: was prisoners of war, American prisoners. They were held on
Speaker 4: the ship in the in the in the bottom of
Speaker 4: the ship.
Speaker 3: There were there were, there were there were a number
Speaker 3: of them. Yes, And then so they were they were
Speaker 3: firing on the fort. British were firing on the fort.
Speaker 3: And and if the flag ever fell, the you know
Speaker 3: the thing that's right.
Speaker 4: No, he was watching from above and he was a
Speaker 4: real prisoner.
Speaker 2: He was but what was going on?
Speaker 4: Right? And he was telling that they were.
Speaker 2: By God, I'll tell you.
Speaker 4: I know, I knew that I was. I was asking Maryland.
Speaker 4: The other thing was that today we mentioned it was
Speaker 4: mentioned at the fourth July uh fireworks celebration there that
Speaker 4: this what whoever? One of one of the guests that
Speaker 4: were on that was talking about his relations in Arlington,
Speaker 4: the old nominee or whatever.
Speaker 2: Kurt Russell. Kurt Russell is the actor been in a
Speaker 2: number of movies. I could name them, but it wouldn't
Speaker 2: matter because I'm betting I don't.
Speaker 4: That's not the important part. Important pile was to me
Speaker 4: was that I was told by somebody who lives in Arlington,
Speaker 4: that there was a house there after the next day,
Speaker 4: after the Lexington and conquered, saying that that they went
Speaker 4: to Arlington and that was gonna say it was a
Speaker 4: different name at the time, but there was people hiding
Speaker 4: in one of the houses and they went in and
Speaker 4: they slaughtered them. Yes, it was at the same house.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the same house, but if
Speaker 2: you listen, I'm sure they'll repeat the news story. During
Speaker 2: the twelve o'clock news he Kurt Russell mentions that his
Speaker 2: relative eight generations ago, was killed on the first day
Speaker 2: of the skirmish, and his relative was bayoneted to death,
Speaker 2: and they were hiding in the house hoping that the
Speaker 2: uh British wouldn't knock the doors down. But the British
Speaker 2: were checking every single household in that area, and they
Speaker 2: checked on it was still the last name of Russell.
Speaker 2: They checked on the Russell house and they found his
Speaker 2: great great great great grandfather.
Speaker 4: He wasn't the one was panning at the door.
Speaker 2: They said, he, yes, he was in the doorway, and
Speaker 2: next thing you know, somebody took a banonet and introduced
Speaker 2: his stomach to the bayonet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, but I heard there was a house that
Speaker 4: was a bunch of people hiding and they killed them.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how many other people
Speaker 2: were in that house. I don't know the circumstances about
Speaker 2: people hid his area.
Speaker 4: Is curious that there was the same it's the same
Speaker 4: famous house at Arlington, you know, I guess it's I'm.
Speaker 2: I am sure, Laretta. If you want it is, and
Speaker 2: I'm creating a word researchable, you can research it.
Speaker 3: That's right. That was it was, It was. It wasn't
Speaker 3: well what we call Arlington now, it was known as
Speaker 3: Monotony then, right. That's really where most of the fighting
Speaker 3: happened after Lexington then conquered, when the Colonials chased the
Speaker 3: British down to there, and so the British were desperate
Speaker 3: and trying to find things to do when they were
Speaker 3: breaking into.
Speaker 4: Houses, well they were mad. Yes, they were being shot
Speaker 4: at all the way back, you know, and they know
Speaker 4: they they killed. They went to Lexington to Monroe Tavern,
Speaker 4: and the tinkeeper of that tavern, John Monroe, left to
Speaker 4: Partuco to protect John Hancock. And he went off to
Speaker 4: protect John Hancock, and he wasn't there and they came
Speaker 4: in to be you know, treat their wounded and so forth.
Speaker 4: And yeah, there was a lot of anger obviously because
Speaker 4: they were.
Speaker 2: Your history and it's a little bit of it.
Speaker 4: I'm not that I'm not agree with names, let's put
Speaker 4: it that way.
Speaker 2: Okay. Well, I hope we were able to help you
Speaker 2: a wee bit.
Speaker 4: I was enjoyed listening to you.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: I love history. I love history. The other thing that's
Speaker 4: been annoying is that the who runs the the elections
Speaker 4: was his title. He's a very nice man does the
Speaker 4: election the secretary of the Secretary of State or whatever,
Speaker 4: Master William Gavin. Yeah, he's been doing these ads repeatedly
Speaker 4: about how the family and Lincoln family with the old
Speaker 4: North Church in the lantern that pa used. And it's
Speaker 4: annoying to me because I know there was several rides,
Speaker 4: several riders besides Paul, there are many.
Speaker 2: There were they were almost like, yeah, almost two dozen,
Speaker 2: and it was it was a gentleman by the name
Speaker 2: of Robert Newton, like the fake Newton Newman. I thought
Speaker 2: it was Newton. Bobby Newton, Yeah, Newman, Bobby Newman. Who Newman?
Speaker 2: He was the guy deciding which lamp. Should I like
Speaker 2: one or two?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got some information that that the British were
Speaker 3: going to row from Charles River to Cambridge. That was
Speaker 3: there was there was Longfellow who used that language.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ironically it was one hundred years later that Longfellow
Speaker 2: wrote that poem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well ninety ninety years later during the Civil War.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but there was was Jaws was one of them.
Speaker 4: And then there was.
Speaker 2: Doctor Samuel Prescott. And are the ones that get mentioned.
Speaker 2: That's right. There are a lot of other people that
Speaker 2: did part of the of course, so to speak.
Speaker 3: A number of them were physicians because they would have
Speaker 3: had an excuse to be out at night and they
Speaker 3: would have known the root in the dark.
Speaker 4: Well, well, yeah, one of them was a doctor or something.
Speaker 2: Well, several of them with doctors, because it was a doctor.
Speaker 3: It was doctor Joseph Warren who organized that, who organized
Speaker 3: that part of the.
Speaker 2: Night, and doctor Samuel Prescott.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Paul Revere didn't make it till Lexington U
Speaker 4: till later on when he went back to get John
Speaker 4: Hancock some stash.
Speaker 1: That he had.
Speaker 3: Well, Revere's real business that night was his was not
Speaker 3: so much a warning of calling out the the minutemen
Speaker 3: as it were, the civilian militia.
Speaker 2: That was the job of the others.
Speaker 3: His job was really to go and move Sam and
Speaker 3: John from one safe house to another where they were
Speaker 3: hiding out because they were hiding out there because they
Speaker 3: knew they were going to get arrested. They were going
Speaker 3: to be arrested for treason, so they were hiding out
Speaker 3: in and they had to move from one place to another.
Speaker 3: And so his real job was to go out there.
Speaker 3: But he got, he got he got stopped around right
Speaker 3: around what we would call Route two way today and
Speaker 3: uh and had to walk several miles too long to
Speaker 3: this to the first safe house where they were right.
Speaker 4: No, there's a lot of I mean, it's very interesting.
Speaker 4: I think very interesting. So thank you guys for talking
Speaker 4: about it. Well, okay, all right.
Speaker 2: All right, good night by Did you ever get your
Speaker 2: word in edgeworth?
Speaker 3: I never got my word in edgeways. I don't even
Speaker 3: know what I was talking about. But I think you know.
Speaker 2: All right now, if I'm not missed, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: you have a story or two left. Uh.
Speaker 3: Well, there's always there's always, I mean, there's there's there's
Speaker 3: tons of stuff to talk about people don't realize that
Speaker 3: in one burying ground on Tremont Street, there are three
Speaker 3: signers of the Declaration of Independence?
Speaker 2: Is that one? Mother gooses Bury Yep.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yep, John Adams, uh, John Sam Adams, John
Speaker 3: Hancock and Robert treat Payne. They're all buried in a
Speaker 3: granary burying ground up there on up on Tremont Street,
Speaker 3: right by the big clock, right by the big clock,
Speaker 3: the big Oh, yes, the big clock.
Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, you look up and there is the
Speaker 2: clock that's right. That's right, yep.
Speaker 3: But pings that are like eleven fifty seven every day,
Speaker 3: you know. There you go and yeah, So the three
Speaker 3: of them are there, and that's well actually, and it's
Speaker 3: believed that that John Hancock's body was stolen. He's got
Speaker 3: the big headstone in the back because he's the wealthiest
Speaker 3: man in all the colonies in those days, right, and
Speaker 3: so he's got the big headstone in the back, and
Speaker 3: it's believed that his body isn't there.
Speaker 2: And no one has checked. They's got so much electronic
Speaker 2: do dads nowadays? They can I'm sure, just go over
Speaker 2: the ground and be able to see through six feet
Speaker 2: down and the casket if there are bones in it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: well would be a lead casket.
Speaker 3: His was a lead casket, and so you wouldn't be
Speaker 3: able to get X rays through that. Can't see through
Speaker 3: through through lead a superman, that's right. And so there's
Speaker 3: been so much there's been so much work going on
Speaker 3: underneath that and in around that area. The truth in
Speaker 3: life is that most of the graves are empty at
Speaker 3: this point. Any bones that have been found because people
Speaker 3: were just wrapped in shrouds or at best put in
Speaker 3: a pine box. Unless you had a lot of money,
Speaker 3: then you were putting a lead box. But you know,
Speaker 3: most of the bones had disintegrated. Any bones they found
Speaker 3: are in an ostuary in the back of the thing
Speaker 3: there and most most of the headstones have been moved
Speaker 3: around to accommodate lawnmowers.
Speaker 2: Believe it not, it's absolutely true. The things that you know.
Speaker 2: When we come back, tell you what I'll have like
Speaker 2: ten eight minutes left. I want you to tell why
Speaker 2: history was so attractive to you because it had to be.
Speaker 2: I know, you know a lot of stuff because of
Speaker 2: your job, but elementary school, junior high, high school, that's
Speaker 2: where you had to get your head filled with all
Speaker 2: the facts that are in there, absolutely all right. Time
Speaker 2: eleven forty five, temperature sixty nine degrees with Dan Ray
Speaker 2: on wb Boston's news radio and Jack. Somebody called in
Speaker 2: and Nancy verified this on her handheld that it was
Speaker 2: Fort Mick Henry because that was the original name of
Speaker 2: the star Spangled Banner Defiance at Fort Mick Henry. Okay,
Speaker 2: so we've covered that, and there's a caller calling in
Speaker 2: from Napa Valley in California. Sky, thank you for calling in.
Speaker 2: You're calling in at the end of the evening, but
Speaker 2: we give everybody who calls a chance to be heard.
Speaker 1: Hello.
Speaker 5: Sky, It's lovely to thank you for getting my call
Speaker 5: and receive my call. Thank you, Okay, Okay, anyway, so
Speaker 5: we were talking about maybe July fourth favorite memories, Yes, okay.
Speaker 5: So by the way, Jack is also lovely to hear
Speaker 5: your voice, so I hear you every night. Yes. Anyway.
Speaker 5: So I'm just gonna say this. It might not be
Speaker 5: a bottom globe kind of like a news headline kind
Speaker 5: of thing, but it's kind of like the back four
Speaker 5: kind of page. Anyway. I used I used to be
Speaker 5: a cup Scout leader and then my German shepherd dog Gingerbread.
Speaker 5: I put a red, white and blue banner on her neck,
Speaker 5: not on her neck, on her collar, should I say, politely?
Speaker 5: And we would do the July the fourth parade every
Speaker 5: day and she would just walk with the Boy Scouts,
Speaker 5: the Cup Scouts, the Girl Scouts and everything. And that
Speaker 5: is my July the fourth favorite memory.
Speaker 2: What a lovely story. And how long did Ginger live?
Speaker 5: She lived to be quite only eighteen years.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of years. And that is if shepherds
Speaker 2: don't get hip displacire, which claims early on.
Speaker 5: You're totally right, and I, Paul is interrupting, You are
Speaker 5: totally right. She did get hip dysplacure. When I got
Speaker 5: into my my expedition, I had to pick her up
Speaker 5: by her hind quarters and put her in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she did get hypd diasplacia.
Speaker 2: And that attacks shepherds more than any of the breed. Really.
Speaker 2: But if your shepherd can avoid being claimed by hip displacier,
Speaker 2: they can live into their early twenties. Wow.
Speaker 5: Wow, health a healthy dog, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: I used to own shepherds, and my developed tip displacier
Speaker 2: when he was about eight and my female they were
Speaker 2: sister brother. My female developed uh leukemia when she was
Speaker 2: around eight, so I lost them both within a couple
Speaker 2: of months of each other. Oh my, how broke my heart?
Speaker 2: They were my children?
Speaker 5: Oh boy, for sure, definitely. I totally emphathize with you
Speaker 5: with the problems Gray.
Speaker 2: How do you hear? Are you hearing us on the
Speaker 2: radio or computer or what?
Speaker 5: I am actually using you on my If I say
Speaker 5: the word, it's gonna cut me up. But a L
Speaker 5: e x A. You know what that means? Alexa right,
Speaker 5: But if I say it, it's gonna ask me.
Speaker 2: You can't say yeah right right?
Speaker 5: Oh, and then you know what, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 5: say this out because I don't know the gentleman, but
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to shout him out right now. And
Speaker 5: i'd like to connect with him. I'm Sky, as you
Speaker 5: know from NAP. I just moved from Canton, Mass Juesus
Speaker 5: last month. Okay, but Glenn, I want to say hi
Speaker 5: to Glenn.
Speaker 1: I'm blind too, Oh.
Speaker 2: A match made in heaven.
Speaker 5: Not necessarily, but I just want to let him know
Speaker 5: that I'm blind and we all love your show big time.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that, Sky, And I'm just filling in.
Speaker 2: This is nightside.
Speaker 5: If I know, I know exactly what it is, because
Speaker 5: if damn we're not.
Speaker 2: On vacation, he'd be here right now.
Speaker 5: Sure, well, right right, I know, yes.
Speaker 2: And and Sky. I'm not going to ask you your age,
Speaker 2: because you never ask a woman her age. But from
Speaker 2: what you know about Glenn, is he within the age
Speaker 2: you like your men to be.
Speaker 5: I don't really know. It's okay, that's kind of you
Speaker 5: know WHOA bloody hell. That's why works up here because
Speaker 5: I'm in the Napa Valley, So it's three hours prior
Speaker 5: to you guys, So it's.
Speaker 2: Nine o'clock out there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, correct, correct. Anyway, just put a shout out to Glenn.
Speaker 5: I'm another blind person that loves you, guys, and be blessed.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much for filling in for Dan Ray
Speaker 5: and everyone else.
Speaker 2: Skott, thank you very much for that statement. Thank you you,
Speaker 2: take care and enjoy the end of July fourth for you.
Speaker 5: Too, Be blessed. Oh but by the way, being British,
Speaker 5: does it really matter? Not really right, you're throwing the
Speaker 5: tea bags in the in the in the river, in
Speaker 5: the Charleston River. Yeah, all right, be blessed.
Speaker 2: Okay, bye bye, bye bye.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't understand that, you know, we don't.
Speaker 3: Women don't like to tell their true wage. Here's the thing.
Speaker 3: You get someone who says she's fifty years old, but
Speaker 3: she wants to say she's thirty five, but you know what,
Speaker 3: she looks like she's fifty seven, So you know, wouldn't
Speaker 3: it be better to say that she was thirty five
Speaker 3: to say that she was fifty and and people would say, oh,
Speaker 3: you look pretty good for fifty thirty five.
Speaker 2: We've got the example of Jack Benny who said he
Speaker 2: was thirty nine years old for forty five years. He
Speaker 2: said that that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: But you know, but but you know, he's but that's
Speaker 3: like he's like a like a man, like a man.
Speaker 3: An age age is differently. But you know, a woman
Speaker 3: who lies about her age and says that she's younger
Speaker 3: than she is, wouldn't you say you were older? Like
Speaker 3: sometimes I like to tell people I'm seventy two when
Speaker 3: people say, oh my god, you look great.
Speaker 2: I'm going to be seventy two in September.
Speaker 3: Oh there you go, and you look like you and
Speaker 3: you look like you're sixty three. Oh shuck, but but,
Speaker 3: and especially on radio. But but you know the but
Speaker 3: that I never understood. Why do people want to say
Speaker 3: that they're younger than they are when they don't look
Speaker 3: like you know that, you know they don't.
Speaker 2: Look like that? Thirty? All right now, Unfortunately I don't
Speaker 2: have time for you to do what I asked you
Speaker 2: to do because of Sky's phone call. Because I want
Speaker 2: you to tell people what about history? Beckoned you? But
Speaker 2: it don't have to wait till the next time I'm
Speaker 2: with you. Absolutely, I like stories. Lets you say that
Speaker 2: I like stories. Isn't that a cut that people play
Speaker 2: on the radio from Homer? I like stories. I like stories. Jack,
Speaker 2: thank you for spending two hours with me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: You know that, all right? And you take care you do?
Speaker 2: I yes, you were Bye bye. I also want to
Speaker 2: say thank you to Bill and Bo Winnaker. They were
Speaker 2: here from eight until ten. Jack was here from ten
Speaker 2: until midnight. Sean filled in for Rob Brooks tonight, and
Speaker 2: Sean answered all your phone calls tonight. I hope you
Speaker 2: will kind to him on the phone. Thank you to Nancy,
Speaker 2: Thank you to Gray and you nights. I call it
Speaker 2: so the past two nights you were tremendous to me,
Speaker 2: with me, for me, I appreciate all of you, whether
Speaker 2: you called in, whether you just listened or did a
Speaker 2: combination of the two. I appreciate every single one of you.
Speaker 2: I'm on tomorrow or my show or my show will
Speaker 2: be on tomorrow nine to midnight, and then I change
Speaker 2: ten to midnight the following week until further notice, and
Speaker 2: that's basically about it. So let me look at the time,
Speaker 2: and let me look at the temperature. The time and temperature.
Speaker 2: Before I say those two words, I always say. Eleven
Speaker 2: fifty eight sixty nine degrees by Boston