WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.080 --> 00:00:03.120 It's night's time with Dan Ray. 2 00:00:03.399 --> 00:00:08.320 I'm telling you Boston's video. Al thank you, thank you 3 00:00:08.400 --> 00:00:11.919 very much for my intro. Jack Hart is here doing 4 00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:16.000 double duty telling people watch out for pedestrians as you 5 00:00:16.120 --> 00:00:20.920 leave the Esplanade area. You ain't kidding. And we're sharing 6 00:00:21.640 --> 00:00:26.839 July fourth stories here, some political, some just happens on 7 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:30.000 the fourth of July that this event, this story took place. 8 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:35.520 We have a phone call and I've got two fourth 9 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:39.200 of July circumstances to bring up. I'll leave it up 10 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:41.759 to you, Jack, Do I take the call now tell 11 00:00:41.799 --> 00:00:45.960 my stories or take a call down then push that 12 00:00:46.039 --> 00:00:49.759 button Nancy and say, Dennis and Loe, welcome aboard. 13 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:55.799 Well, good evening, gentlemen. Nice to be aboard. Nice to 14 00:00:55.840 --> 00:01:02.880 have you all the time staying here. Yes, there's so 15 00:01:02.920 --> 00:01:06.879 many different stories just from a history lesson, like we 16 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:12.799 had fifty six signers, five from Massachusetts, Damn Adams, John Adams, 17 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:17.719 Albert Jerry, which we got jerry mandering from John Hancock 18 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:22.760 and with the biggest signature because he said, you want 19 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:27.719 to make sure they could read it. And one thing 20 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:28.400 I saw. 21 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:30.959 This actually, by the way, by the way, people forget 22 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:34.200 Ben Franklin signed the Declaration of Independence, although it was 23 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:39.200 from Philadelphia. He was representing Pennsylvania, but he was he 24 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:41.159 was lived in Boston till he was seventeen. 25 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:45.760 Yeah, and he was also the oldest signer too, he 26 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:52.920 was seventy years old. But one sactoid I saw was 27 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:56.879 that forty eight of the fifty six signers were actually 28 00:01:56.920 --> 00:01:59.640 born in America. I was kind of surprised by that, 29 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:04.439 say year so it wasn't American? Yeah, yeah, I mean. 30 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:07.000 Well by that time, it would you say forty eight 31 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:07.959 were born in America? 32 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:10.919 Did you say, yeah, forty eight out of fifty. 33 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:11.599 Six fifty six? 34 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:14.000 Yeah, the what goes by that time, you know, people 35 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:16.520 had been here as colonists for one hundred and fifty years. 36 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:18.520 People forget that. People have many of one hundred and 37 00:02:18.520 --> 00:02:19.039 fifty years. 38 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:21.400 So you know, they were pretty well in trench. They 39 00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:23.759 were probably seventh eight generations. 40 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:29.400 Yeah, and out of the status just quickly. Because there's 41 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:32.280 one other thing I want to talk about, Like seventeen 42 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:36.319 of the signers lost everything that they had, and I 43 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:39.159 think it was like nine, you know, died in the revolution. 44 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:42.080 They paid a price. A lot of them paid a price. 45 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:45.319 Absolutely, a lot of people paid a price but that's 46 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:46.479 how important it was. 47 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:51.159 Oh yeah, all right. Locally, I wanted to talk about 48 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:55.719 like Lowell is right next to Chansford, and Chansford has 49 00:02:55.759 --> 00:03:00.000 a fabulous Fourth of July parade. I think it's you. 50 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:03.680 I think it's either the second largest in Massachusetts or 51 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:06.240 third or fourth in New England. I mean it's like 52 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:09.719 over fifteen twenty thousand people watching. It's like two and 53 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:13.000 a half miles long. They have a race before then, 54 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:16.199 a two mile race, and they have like one hundred 55 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:21.759 different elements that participate in at all age levels. All right, 56 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:25.240 first I'll talk about the race. They have like eighteen 57 00:03:25.319 --> 00:03:26.639 hundred people in the race. 58 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:29.800 What type of race automobile footrace? 59 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:32.840 No, No, this is a foot race to begin with. 60 00:03:33.719 --> 00:03:39.919 And you have people, well, babies from with strollers, the 61 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:44.159 mothers from eight months to people who are eighty years old, 62 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:47.960 you know, and type of thing. So it's a they 63 00:03:48.159 --> 00:03:52.520 like eighteen hundred people participate in that in the morning 64 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:56.680 before the parade, and the parade has so many different elements, 65 00:03:56.840 --> 00:03:59.879 a lot of people dressed up in colonial uniforms and 66 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:04.879 so forth, and a lot of bands obviously, and attractors, 67 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:09.280 old cars. I mean, it's just a such a I'm 68 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:11.039 trying to make a word of malegnan. 69 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:14.599 It's an event wow, an old fashioned, an old timey parade. 70 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:17.720 Yeah really, and they've been doing it for like over 71 00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:23.560 fifty years. Also fifty five years since nineteen seventy. So no, 72 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:27.959 I'll just say I was involved in the parade and stuff, 73 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:32.519 and in front of me were cut scouts, I mean 74 00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:35.199 have all ages and they're probably like eight, nine, ten, 75 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:38.959 eleven years old and they toss out they toss out 76 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:44.319 candy to the people along the sides. And there's many 77 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:47.759 many children along the side three four or five six 78 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:51.279 years old that you know, like run into the street 79 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:53.839 to pick up the candy and stuff like that. It's 80 00:04:53.920 --> 00:05:01.399 quite an eventage. It's really hot warming. That's Jansford, Massachusetts. 81 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:04.120 Yeh, don't make a bigger thing about it. 82 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:08.639 Yeah, I know they don't publicize it as much, but 83 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:12.439 as I told you, they have great attendance, great participation 84 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:15.399 in the in the people, you know, dress up all right, 85 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:18.439 this is the best dressed pot though there's a fellow 86 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:24.319 who dresses up like one of Johnny Depp's characters, Captain 87 00:05:24.439 --> 00:05:29.199 Jack Sparrow. Okay, and I'll tell you I thought he 88 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:30.480 looks just like him. 89 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:34.600 You know, I would make up your braid, your beard, 90 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:39.120 and you put colorful beads in that braid. Those braids, 91 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:43.160 ye try try corner hat. 92 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:49.600 Yes, and it's Captain Jack, that's him. Oh yeah, you 93 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:50.600 got to find. 94 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:55.639 A three masted boat and paint black swan on the fantail. 95 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:56.399 But there you go. 96 00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:59.079 Yeah. I don't know if that would make it down 97 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:04.160 the parade anyway, A good idea. So anyway, gentlemen, thanks 98 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:07.959 for coming on and talking about for the July stories. 99 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:12.399 Dennis, thank you, thank you very much, And I'm going 100 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:16.040 to tell a quick one before the break, and then 101 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:23.839 another one after the break. The movie blown Away with 102 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:26.720 Jeff Bridges. That made me think of it when we 103 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:32.560 played the clip of Jeff Bridges celebrating eight generations ago 104 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:37.839 somebody in his family was killed on the opening day 105 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:41.879 of the skirmish. And Jack, do you remember the movie 106 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:42.480 blown Away? 107 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:46.639 I do remember the movie blown Away if I saw it. 108 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:47.800 I saw it only once. 109 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:52.680 What was so unbelievable about that movie? 110 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:58.279 What was so unbelievable and unbelievable the ship blowing up? 111 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:06.319 No, they the climactic scene took place the Esplanade fourth 112 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:07.399 of July celebration. 113 00:07:07.959 --> 00:07:09.920 Oh okay, you know, I tell you the other I 114 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:12.120 only saw it once, a very long time ago. 115 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:17.959 It melded into a car chase scene. Oh yeah, all 116 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:22.720 the people, a couple one hundred thousand people at the esplanade. 117 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:26.920 There's no way you could move a car one foot 118 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:30.920 for at least an hour at the end of the event. 119 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:34.800 That's right. And I always just shook my head when 120 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:37.360 I saw that. And now it's time for me to 121 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:40.560 give phone numbers six one, seven, two, five, fourth, ten 122 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:43.399 thirty or eight eight, eight nine two nineteen thirty. If 123 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:45.040 you want to do what I last called it, call 124 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:49.000 in and just share memories of July fourth with us. 125 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:53.600 Jack Cart and me here filling in for Danre. I'm Morgan, 126 00:07:54.319 --> 00:08:01.120 and time and temperature excuse me, eleven point fifteen nine degrees. 127 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:06.920 You're on night side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's 128 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:07.600 news radio. 129 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:10.199 I've been telling you for the best day and a half. 130 00:08:10.319 --> 00:08:14.279 Dan is off. He won't be back until the fourteenth 131 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:18.160 of July that Monday, but he'll be here eight o'clock sharp. 132 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:22.639 I promise you. I am here. I'm Morgan, a colleague 133 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:26.519 of mine. Mister Jack Hart is here, and Jack, I've 134 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:31.639 got a BZ related July fourth story, okay, and then 135 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:34.759 I'll let you tell your story, and then hopefully we'll 136 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:38.639 get an avalanche of phone calls. We have one now, 137 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:44.200 but anyway, it was July fourth, either eighty three or 138 00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:49.720 eighty four, nineteen eighty three, eighty four. Bill Flaherty said, Morgan, 139 00:08:51.440 --> 00:08:55.720 you want to do trivia at the Esplanade on the 140 00:08:55.720 --> 00:09:01.559 fourth of July. Stupid me, I said, yes, you got. 141 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:04.720 Now you've seen my act, you know. I asked trivia 142 00:09:04.840 --> 00:09:10.480 questions and if I've got forty fifty sixty seventy people, 143 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:14.840 I can handle that with no problem. You try asking 144 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:18.879 what did the Beverly Hillbillies call the swimming pool? In 145 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:22.639 front of a couple hundred thousand people. It did not 146 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:26.440 go as smoothly as I wanted it to go. But 147 00:09:27.840 --> 00:09:30.279 one of the things that caught my attention that I 148 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:36.200 remember to this day, about two dozen people were going 149 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:41.279 to be made natural citizens. They took the tests, they 150 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:45.159 passed the tests, and they were going to receive their 151 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:51.960 papers and the acknowledgement of being citizens at the July fourth. 152 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:59.559 Jack the pride on the people. They're about a couple 153 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:06.320 dozen of them who were going to be given this citizenship. 154 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:12.679 Oh my goodness, Jack, and I'll never forget the look 155 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:18.000 on those faces. They had to study, obviously and take 156 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:20.600 that test. I'm sure it's ten times harder than the 157 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:26.639 ged test. And they passed, and they learned their history, 158 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:30.240 and they were there. Most of them were dressed in 159 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:33.960 some form of red, white and blue. Yep. And the 160 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:39.039 pride from ear to ear I still can recall forty 161 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:42.799 odd years later, and that's so it is. Wow. Now 162 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:46.120 you said you had a couple of Fourth of July stories. 163 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:48.279 I got a couple of things going on here. You know. 164 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:52.600 The Fourth of July was first the first read in 165 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:55.840 Boston on July seventeenth, I believe it was, And it 166 00:10:55.879 --> 00:10:59.279 was a Colonel Ebenezer Craft of the Colonial Forces who 167 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:03.600 read it. His house eventually became that restaurant out in 168 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:09.120 out near Sturbridge, the Public House. But any rate, he 169 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:12.200 was on the he stood on the balcony of the 170 00:11:12.200 --> 00:11:16.080 old State House. Now the balcony of the old State 171 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:20.000 House was when they built that thing, that was waterfront property. 172 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:23.720 Anybody who's spent any time in Boston knows where the 173 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:27.000 old State House is down near government Center, but at 174 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:29.720 one point in time that was waterfront property. So you know, 175 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:33.000 effectively by looking out there, the next thing that you're 176 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:36.399 looking at directly across from you would be of course England. 177 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:41.080 So the balcony was on the was placed on the 178 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:45.840 eastern side of what was known as the Townhouse when 179 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:49.600 the British built it in seventeen thirteen, so that anybody, 180 00:11:49.639 --> 00:11:55.120 any British, British representative, British agent, making a speech to 181 00:11:55.240 --> 00:12:00.000 the colonists gathered below, we'll not only be facing the colony, 182 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:03.840 but would he effectively be facing the king, you know. 183 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:08.399 And even though that was three thousand miles away roughly. 184 00:12:08.519 --> 00:12:10.679 Sure, sure, sure, but he was still facing the king, 185 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:15.679 facing England. So on July seventeenth, Colonel lebanezer Kraft walked 186 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:20.200 out on that very same balcony and read the Declaration 187 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:21.759 of Independence to the. 188 00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:24.480 People who were gathered down below. They hearing it for 189 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:25.120 the first time. 190 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:28.240 So for all intents and purposes, he was reading that, 191 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:30.879 he was reading it directly to the king, and who 192 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:34.159 was reading it directly across to the king, just as 193 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:38.720 a British representative would have. And so that's you know, 194 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:41.559 so that's what happened on that at that particular balcony, 195 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:44.919 which always thought was ironic. But then in seventeen seventy six, 196 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:50.120 Kevin White stood on that same the mayor of Boston 197 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:53.519 at the time, stood on that same balcony with the 198 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:56.360 Queen of England and presented her with a check for 199 00:12:56.639 --> 00:13:00.639 six million some odd dollars, as I recall, essentially to 200 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:06.720 pay for that was the seventeen seventy six dollar value 201 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:08.320 of the tea that was destroyed. 202 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:13.559 Three And was that an actual. 203 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:15.879 Check or prop No, it was an actual check. He 204 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:18.960 actually paid for the tea. 205 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:21.879 I never heard that story in my life, but I'll 206 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:22.679 remember it now. 207 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:25.919 Yeah, yeah, you know, people don't realize that that's really 208 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:31.240 the tea Party is really what changed everything. What people 209 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:34.440 don't understand is that up until the time of you know, 210 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:39.200 after the Boston Tea Party, the England punished, the King 211 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:42.240 of England punished Boston severely. The course of acts as 212 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:45.240 they came to be known, which included that, you know, 213 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:50.200 that the local government was abolished, and the port of 214 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:57.159 Boston was blocked, and the the the and the the 215 00:13:57.320 --> 00:13:59.639 the people who were living here in Boston were now 216 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:03.159 which charge with having to provide housing and so forth 217 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:05.440 for these soldiers, and so forth and so on. So 218 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:09.000 up to this point, while everybody is protesting, just about 219 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:11.679 everybody was in Boston was protesting at the time, but 220 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:15.399 only about five percent of the people in Boston, only 221 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:18.039 five percent of the people in all the colonies, which 222 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:19.879 are only about two and a half million people, and 223 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:22.200 all the colonies at the time, but only about five 224 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:26.120 percent of them had any interest in actually seceding from 225 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:29.559 the from the British government, from Great Britain and becoming 226 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:34.799 a separate country. Up to that point, everybody who was protesting, well, 227 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:39.679 excuse me, I just swalled of something wrong. Everybody was protesting, 228 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:43.440 was protesting for their rights as British citizens. These people 229 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:46.000 were trying to become more British. These people were trying 230 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:48.799 to fight for their rights under British law. And so 231 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:51.360 up to that point, these people are trying to become 232 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:54.799 more British. Once the Tea Party kicked in and Boston 233 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:59.399 was as people believed it to be, Boston was severely 234 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:03.279 abused by George the Third and Parliament. That's when people 235 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:06.399 in other colonies started to realize things could happen there 236 00:15:06.440 --> 00:15:09.519 as well, and that was really the turning point where 237 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:14.360 the interest in becoming a separate country, seceding from England 238 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:17.039 and becoming a separate country went from about five percent 239 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:19.600 of the people to about ninety five percent of the 240 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:22.519 people after that. And so that's you know, that's the 241 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:25.360 importance of the Tea Party leading up to the declaration 242 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:26.919 of independence. 243 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:29.799 The eleanor the Dartmouth and the beef and the beaver. 244 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:33.960 And if I'm not mistaken, you would know, correct me, please, 245 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:38.679 wasn't there another tea party ship down in the Cape 246 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:40.919 Hyenas of someplace Plymouth? 247 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:43.440 Well, reality of life is that up and down the 248 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:47.240 entire coast by this time, by seventeen seventy three, a 249 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:50.159 lot of people, or a lot of people in most 250 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:53.480 of the colonies were refusing to unload the tea from 251 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:57.519 the ships and to store it so and tying up 252 00:15:57.519 --> 00:16:00.600 the ships essentially so they wouldn't take it out of it. 253 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:02.679 They wouldn't take it out of the ships because actually 254 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:06.399 the tax had actually been lifted on the tea, but 255 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:08.799 England was selling it at cheaper than the tea that 256 00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:11.960 John Hancock was smuggling it in, and other smugglers were 257 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.799 smuggling it in from the Netherlands, and so up and 258 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:18.919 down the coast there were effectively, for all intention purposes, 259 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:21.679 tea parties up and down the coast. It's just the 260 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:25.759 differences is that in Boston the rebels destroyed the tea 261 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:27.679 as opposed to just not unloading it. 262 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:33.919 How did they come up with that six million dollar figure, 263 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:38.720 because it definitely was much less than that in seventeen 264 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:39.480 seventy three. 265 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:43.919 Well, he goes, they didn't have dollars in those days. 266 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:47.840 It was well, you had about three hundred and fifty 267 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:52.159 chests of tea, and however much tea was in each chest, 268 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:55.559 I don't know, but one way or another they calculated 269 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:59.200 it out that whatever the price was, that whatever whatever 270 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:02.440 the dollar vac would have been, because you know, the 271 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:06.440 dollar dollar, you know, dollars and cents and and money 272 00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:10.400 was very different in seventeen seventy three than than it is. 273 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:12.960 You know that it has been from the late eighteen 274 00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:16.000 hundreds of mid eighteen hundreds up until now. Money was 275 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:18.559 a completely different, different concept. 276 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:20.440 You know. Okay, So where did Kevin White get the 277 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:27.400 six million dollars from Boston's treasury or what? 278 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:30.440 I don't know where they got the money from I 279 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:33.240 don't know from where it came the money, but one 280 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:35.960 way or another they came up with an idea that 281 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:41.720 that it was, that was the value of it, and 282 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:44.359 and just and just paid for the tea. I don't 283 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:46.000 know if that's the I don't know if six million 284 00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:48.279 is the exact amount, but you know, it was somewhere 285 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:48.920 around there. 286 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:52.440 It was a big number. Yeah, yeah, six million, even 287 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:55.759 in nineteen seventy six is a big number. Yeah. Well, 288 00:17:55.799 --> 00:17:57.720 you know, to you not to imagine what it would 289 00:17:57.720 --> 00:17:58.240 be now. 290 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:04.559 Yeah, that's that's you know, fifty years fifty years later. 291 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:10.359 Yeah, that seventy six is fifty years ago, thank god. Scary. 292 00:18:10.680 --> 00:18:12.480 Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that'd probably be worth you know, 293 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:16.640 they're probably paying you know, like a probably about twenty 294 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:17.440 two million dollars. 295 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:21.559 Yeah, and I would wonder where mayor Will would get 296 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:25.079 that kind of check if Kevin White hadn't have done that. 297 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:31.720 I don't know. If all things being equal, we've got 298 00:18:31.759 --> 00:18:38.240 a monarchal now would be Charles representing England, Charles the 299 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:43.279 Third Yep, yep. I'm just curious about these things. Now, 300 00:18:43.359 --> 00:18:46.880 if you want to call in, someone's just called in, Loretta. 301 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:51.279 Let me do a news hit couple of commercials and 302 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:54.799 you will be the next person. I guarantee anybody who 303 00:18:54.880 --> 00:19:00.400 else wants to call in. Jack and I hear, and 304 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:04.200 we're trying to give you both political and just every 305 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:08.680 day July fourth stories. We've covered a lot of ground 306 00:19:08.680 --> 00:19:12.119 with some of these stories, but I'm sure you know 307 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:13.880 one or two that you might want to share with 308 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:17.400 thirty eight states and parts of Canada. So you can 309 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:19.880 do that. I'll give you the phone numbers once again, 310 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:24.759 six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty or eight eight, eight, 311 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:30.160 nine to nine, ten thirty. Please you got a story 312 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:33.160 share with us? I mean Jack and I have gone 313 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:38.759 this far sure between Loretta's call and just Jack and I. 314 00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:44.279 If need be, we can kill a half hour, can't we, Jack? 315 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:46.359 Oh, we can kill it. We canna murder it. We 316 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:50.880 can enlive at it and then rich it as well. 317 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:54.000 There you go. So I'm about to take my break 318 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:58.039 about a minute early, and let me just do my out. 319 00:19:58.039 --> 00:20:02.559 Cue time and temperature. We were on night Side eleven twenty 320 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:05.799 nine sixty nine degrees. 321 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:10.519 You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z, 322 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:12.160 Boston's news radio. 323 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:16.880 That girl is poison. I'm sorry every time I hear 324 00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:19.480 Belle biztevo, I have to sing one of those two songs, 325 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:22.079 I see. And are you ready to take a phone 326 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:26.359 call Jack? Absolutely, Let's go to Melrose and speak with Loretta. 327 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:28.279 Loretta happy fourth of July. 328 00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:32.480 Yes, thank you very much. I heard a couple of questions. 329 00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:34.119 I mean, one is, none of the necessarily did the 330 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:38.400 fourth July. But Francis Kakey who wrote the scat Spangled Banner, 331 00:20:38.599 --> 00:20:43.319 which I guess a was a poem? What where was that? 332 00:20:43.839 --> 00:20:46.039 I've held different things? 333 00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:47.599 Was it for? 334 00:20:48.039 --> 00:20:48.880 Was that Fort. 335 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:53.680 Henry was at Fort Sumters during the War of eighteen twelve? 336 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:55.240 Eight? 337 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:58.119 Allsoe that wasn't during the Revolutionary War? 338 00:20:58.200 --> 00:21:01.079 No? No, no, not at all? Where of eighteen twelve? 339 00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:04.880 The the eighteen twelve and Fort Sumner was? 340 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:06.839 Where down in uh? 341 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:08.759 Mary Yeah? 342 00:21:08.839 --> 00:21:13.400 Yeah, yeah, down down in Maryland, I believe. And and 343 00:21:13.599 --> 00:21:16.960 uh the U? And who's the who's the writer there? 344 00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:20.680 Francis friends got key he was a lawyer and he 345 00:21:20.920 --> 00:21:24.039 was being held on a British ship out in the 346 00:21:24.160 --> 00:21:27.759 harbor U And right, No, that's. 347 00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:29.400 What I was. That's why I wanted to ask where 348 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:32.440 it was located, because someone told me it was Henry 349 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:35.079 and I said, no, that's that's like George. So there 350 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:37.799 was sounder and I'm also I was told that there 351 00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:42.160 was prisoners of war, American prisoners. They were held on 352 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:44.680 the ship in the in the in the bottom of 353 00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:45.079 the ship. 354 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:47.480 There were there were, there were there were a number 355 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:49.759 of them. Yes, And then so they were they were 356 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:53.160 firing on the fort. British were firing on the fort. 357 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:56.279 And and if the flag ever fell, the you know 358 00:21:56.400 --> 00:21:57.319 the thing that's right. 359 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:00.200 No, he was watching from above and he was a 360 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:00.880 real prisoner. 361 00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:03.799 He was but what was going on? 362 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:06.359 Right? And he was telling that they were. 363 00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:10.079 By God, I'll tell you. 364 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:15.680 I know, I knew that I was. I was asking Maryland. 365 00:22:16.839 --> 00:22:20.839 The other thing was that today we mentioned it was 366 00:22:20.920 --> 00:22:26.440 mentioned at the fourth July uh fireworks celebration there that 367 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:29.599 this what whoever? One of one of the guests that 368 00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:36.440 were on that was talking about his relations in Arlington, 369 00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:38.359 the old nominee or whatever. 370 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:46.319 Kurt Russell. Kurt Russell is the actor been in a 371 00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:48.680 number of movies. I could name them, but it wouldn't 372 00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:51.000 matter because I'm betting I don't. 373 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:55.079 That's not the important part. Important pile was to me 374 00:22:55.839 --> 00:22:58.920 was that I was told by somebody who lives in Arlington, 375 00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:03.519 that there was a house there after the next day, 376 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:08.720 after the Lexington and conquered, saying that that they went 377 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:13.160 to Arlington and that was gonna say it was a 378 00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:17.559 different name at the time, but there was people hiding 379 00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:19.640 in one of the houses and they went in and 380 00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:24.200 they slaughtered them. Yes, it was at the same house. 381 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:29.400 I don't know if that's the same house, but if 382 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:33.079 you listen, I'm sure they'll repeat the news story. During 383 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:39.839 the twelve o'clock news he Kurt Russell mentions that his 384 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:45.279 relative eight generations ago, was killed on the first day 385 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:53.440 of the skirmish, and his relative was bayoneted to death, 386 00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:58.480 and they were hiding in the house hoping that the 387 00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:03.680 uh British wouldn't knock the doors down. But the British 388 00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:08.880 were checking every single household in that area, and they 389 00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:12.000 checked on it was still the last name of Russell. 390 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:16.279 They checked on the Russell house and they found his 391 00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:18.519 great great great great grandfather. 392 00:24:20.160 --> 00:24:21.759 He wasn't the one was panning at the door. 393 00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:25.119 They said, he, yes, he was in the doorway, and 394 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:29.039 next thing you know, somebody took a banonet and introduced 395 00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:30.359 his stomach to the bayonet. 396 00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:33.759 Yeah, right, but I heard there was a house that 397 00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:37.240 was a bunch of people hiding and they killed them. 398 00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:40.480 I don't know. I don't know how many other people 399 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:44.480 were in that house. I don't know the circumstances about 400 00:24:46.119 --> 00:24:49.359 people hid his area. 401 00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:51.960