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Speaker 2: I kill.
Speaker 3: This thing's big.
Speaker 4: Today in the NFL is known as black Monday because
Speaker 4: a lot of head coaches get fired, but the Cowboys
Speaker 4: work on their own timeline. Jerry talked to the media
Speaker 4: yesterday after the loss to Washington. He was asked, what's
Speaker 4: the timeline for the coaching decision is Mike McCarthy is
Speaker 4: no longer under contract as of January fourteenth.
Speaker 2: I'll follow this kind of the time frame that I've
Speaker 2: done in the past. I can tell you the past
Speaker 2: is not necessarily consistent in terms of a time frame.
Speaker 3: It's amazing, amazing.
Speaker 4: I mean, dude, that was like the first question eight
Speaker 4: seconds in and he's already nailed it.
Speaker 3: That's unbelievable.
Speaker 5: This's got everyone's spinning already. I'll tell you this guy
Speaker 5: is blue, but it absolutely is not blue.
Speaker 1: It is so great as they get the past, even
Speaker 1: though I'm not consistent there.
Speaker 4: The poor came out there.
Speaker 3: You want Courtly back or maybe others of the building don't.
Speaker 3: Is very true to that.
Speaker 2: Well, I again, at the risk of talking about something
Speaker 2: that I don't want to talk about at this time.
Speaker 3: But we've got a lot.
Speaker 2: Of work to do. But certainly we're all looking for
Speaker 2: ways to get better.
Speaker 4: At the risk of talking about something I don't want
Speaker 4: to talk about, I'm not talk about it for a minute.
Speaker 5: It's dude, it's a masterclass in marketing. It's why they're
Speaker 5: worth ten billion dollars. He doesn't want to just suddenly
Speaker 5: address it immediately like every other team, because then you
Speaker 5: can't milk it from a marketing standpoint. He's milking it
Speaker 5: all the intrigue and all the talk, all the conversation.
Speaker 5: Here we are, the season's over, they're irrelevant, and there's
Speaker 5: a huge buzz around this.
Speaker 4: And again, this went on for thirty five to forty minutes.
Speaker 4: He was asked, you know, a lot of the same questions.
Speaker 4: It got a little feisty at the end. But as
Speaker 4: we're going towards the middle of it here he was
Speaker 4: they brought up, you know, you've taken some accountability for
Speaker 4: the roster not being as good as it needs to be. Well,
Speaker 4: why make a change if you're the one who's taken
Speaker 4: you know, if you're saying the roster's not good enough
Speaker 4: because of you in some of your errors, why would
Speaker 4: you make a change of the head coach.
Speaker 2: Then again, I don't know that I am considered making
Speaker 2: a change. It's really what I'm trying to say. I
Speaker 2: agree with you. The complimentary verbiage or the complementary talk
Speaker 2: about him is I think fact. I think I can
Speaker 2: say that about him no matter what I'm thinking or
Speaker 2: not thinking, whether.
Speaker 5: If he might or someone else would be absolutely needed
Speaker 5: your head coach.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not trying in any way to play a
Speaker 2: guessing game here with anybody. We've got some work to do,
Speaker 2: and we need to do some things differently, and we can.
Speaker 3: Now that is where I did take it.
Speaker 4: You can get the guy to slip, and I think
Speaker 4: that's where we got him. And I think right there
Speaker 4: to me, and I haven't seen anyone write this. I
Speaker 4: don't know if someone has, but to me, when I
Speaker 4: was listened to that last night, I went, they're making
Speaker 4: a change a.
Speaker 3: Coach, Yeah, what made you think that? Out of that answer,
Speaker 3: he said, they need to do some things to do diferently.
Speaker 2: We've got more some work to do and we need
Speaker 2: to do some things differently.
Speaker 3: And of course, and we can.
Speaker 5: He's not talking about the front office, which basically took
Speaker 5: the off season off and they Steven's been talking about
Speaker 5: for every team that pushes money forward, there's a day
Speaker 5: of reckoning, and that's what we're enduring right now, a
Speaker 5: day of reckoning. And he's already said this offseason is
Speaker 5: going to be very similar to last.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Mike is gonna get paid to at some point.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, hold on, hold on, though, there's a few
Speaker 1: things that I think might be different. Isn't the guy
Speaker 1: that said the off season is going to be the
Speaker 1: same as Stephen Jones?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay. They could be talking about the way they draft.
Speaker 1: They could be talking about the way they call plays.
Speaker 1: He could be talking about the way that they go
Speaker 1: about making decisions. I think I don't think that that
Speaker 1: gives us any insight at all.
Speaker 5: If they want to change the way they call plays,
Speaker 5: how can they do that with McCarthy still there? And
Speaker 5: he could have changed at any point during the season
Speaker 5: and didn't.
Speaker 4: This is where Mike is under a little bit. Mike's
Speaker 4: in an uncomfortable position because the reports are that Mike
Speaker 4: is on the list for some other teams. We still
Speaker 4: don't have any teams yet that have come out and
Speaker 4: said the Jets are the only team have revealed their
Speaker 4: coaching list. They're interviewing everyone, so he might get on
Speaker 4: that list. But again he's not under he's not out
Speaker 4: from under contract till the fourteenth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can't.
Speaker 1: They have to request permission to anybody that wants to
Speaker 1: interview him has to request permission for a week.
Speaker 3: On the fourteenth. Mike is free and can do whatever.
Speaker 4: Right, So if Mike has all these places where he
Speaker 4: can go and be the play caller and give this
Speaker 4: other job, well, then we'll know in eight days. So
Speaker 4: Jerry could be slow playing this. I did hear Clarence
Speaker 4: say or right that it would be He thinks early
Speaker 4: next week when they'll make the decision, because they'll go
Speaker 4: through all their evaluations and all that during this week.
Speaker 3: I here's what's weird to me.
Speaker 5: Belichick was available and wanted the job, and that is
Speaker 5: such a Jerry Jones move to go get the retread
Speaker 5: out there. But they had decided early on, during a
Speaker 5: point in the season where it seemed pretty clear they
Speaker 5: were not happy with Mike McCarthy that they wanted no
Speaker 5: part of Belichick, and I think Belichick was begging for
Speaker 5: the job.
Speaker 3: So that said, that would lead me.
Speaker 5: To believe that they were going to make a change,
Speaker 5: and they knew who that change was going to be,
Speaker 5: and they've known it for a long time.
Speaker 4: That's why I don't if they know who it is,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel like we would have a
Speaker 4: better idea and have it pinned down who it was.
Speaker 4: Like Rabel's getting tossed out there a lot. It sure
Speaker 4: looks like the Patriots are opening up their legs for
Speaker 4: Rabel right now.
Speaker 2: Could it be?
Speaker 3: Could it be yes?
Speaker 1: Could it be Dione or Witting or something stupid that
Speaker 1: just I mean, I think I think if it was
Speaker 1: something like that, there would be smoke out there already.
Speaker 1: I would be shocked if it was. But I don't
Speaker 1: think people can keep their mouths shot. I think if
Speaker 1: it was something that juicy stuff would be out there.
Speaker 1: But they would have said to Belichick, no, you're retread.
Speaker 1: We're gonna wait and see what other retreads are there.
Speaker 3: I mean there.
Speaker 4: That's the whole thing with like Jerry one oh one
Speaker 4: here is that he would only be interested in someone
Speaker 4: who's won before if I talked about he talked openly
Speaker 4: in the press conference or in his media availability yesterday.
Speaker 4: But I'm McCarthy, is you know, one more games than
Speaker 4: Bill Parcell's. Yeah, he's the like twelfth winning as head coat,
Speaker 4: which of all time. And I think if he had to,
Speaker 4: I think if I had to bet money right now,
Speaker 4: I bet it's McCarthy again.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's fair.
Speaker 1: And and like when he says, you know I was
Speaker 1: joking earlier about the hay being in the barn. That's
Speaker 1: his way of telling everybody we already know what he is. Well,
Speaker 1: I think that's nothing changed.
Speaker 4: That statement was like, we're not looking at Sunday's game,
Speaker 4: right right, judge McCarthy, we already know what he is.
Speaker 5: So I wouldn't be surprised if he comes back as well,
Speaker 5: but I think it'd be short term. I don't think
Speaker 5: they're committed. I don't think they'd love him. I don't
Speaker 5: think everyone loves him. But I think there's another Next
Speaker 5: year is another ghost season. I think if they're in it,
Speaker 5: they're in it. But they're not going to do anything
Speaker 5: free agency to help. They're going to try to eat
Speaker 5: some of this dead cap money. They've had they're trying
Speaker 5: to reset their cap.
Speaker 4: Well, I would like for you guys to pull out
Speaker 4: your spyglasses because I have two more clips that on
Speaker 4: a plane.
Speaker 3: Just you know, just see if we can find anything here. Okay, No,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: The question here is as is this week about you
Speaker 4: and Mike getting together and doing a deal.
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to answer either one of those,
Speaker 2: but I certainly have to Jerry. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 2: a give on that I've decided. If we're sitting down
Speaker 2: talking about a deal, that's a given that I've decided
Speaker 2: to in that direction. Again, No, no, and that's you
Speaker 2: a question. Now, that's what the next few days and
Speaker 2: weeks are about. Now. Found it on everything that's happened
Speaker 2: this year and everything that's happened over the last four years.
Speaker 3: The team missus well, but that's uh.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to coach here that won't be someplace else.
Speaker 3: Now, Jerry may know, just like I'm suspecting. I suspect
Speaker 3: no one else wants McCarthy.
Speaker 4: That's a suspicion that's based on McCarthy's pr train get
Speaker 4: going last week. And Jerry may know that. But if
Speaker 4: a team could come snatch him in eight days. I
Speaker 4: thought it was interesting that Jerry said, if you don't
Speaker 4: want to be here, then I don't want anyone who
Speaker 4: don't want.
Speaker 3: To be here.
Speaker 5: That's what he said, right, I wouldn't want a coach
Speaker 5: that wants to be somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's I think I think that's negotiating. I think
Speaker 1: that's saying that's like, hey, man, if you want to
Speaker 1: go out there and sell your well, whereas you ain't
Speaker 1: coming back here, so you don't have any leverage here.
Speaker 1: But so think about all that. I think this goes
Speaker 1: back to what Ben said originally. I think the one
Speaker 1: thousand percent No, they're bringing Mike McCarthy back, and I
Speaker 1: think all of this is about, hey, let's stay in
Speaker 1: the headlines because we're not in the playoffs. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think that's what all of this is about. And
Speaker 1: I think they're bringing McCarthy back. And to me, the
Speaker 1: smoking gun was the Troyman thing, like he went on
Speaker 1: National TV and said he can't even squint an envision
Speaker 1: a scenario in which Mike McCarthy is back, and then
Speaker 1: a week and a half later said Mike McCarthy's coming back.
Speaker 3: I thought.
Speaker 4: He said that on the Fan den on the ESPN
Speaker 4: broadcast the first time he said.
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, he said, I can't envision any scenario
Speaker 1: in which Mike McCarthy is coming back. And then on
Speaker 1: the pregame show of the Fan to Brad Sham, he said, oh,
Speaker 1: I think Mike McCarthy's coming back.
Speaker 3: That is a smoking gun for sure. It is what changed?
Speaker 3: They were?
Speaker 5: They were?
Speaker 1: They were?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I'm saying what not with Troy? What
Speaker 5: changed with the Cowboys? Because it did feel like they
Speaker 5: were headed towards the divorce. It really felt that way.
Speaker 3: I'm still not sure. I'm telling you. I have to
Speaker 3: listen to that. Yesterday, all of it.
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know, I don't know, and look,
Speaker 4: there's one more question, Like I know you, like, there's
Speaker 4: one more question. I want to play this because Jane
Speaker 4: asked a great question. Okay, how can you want someone
Speaker 4: to be here if you won't even tell them if
Speaker 4: they can be here? Because McCarthy and his while they're
Speaker 4: all talking to Jerry, McCarthy's in there answering questions too. Yeah,
Speaker 4: at the same time, and McCarthy said, I want to
Speaker 4: be here. Of course, I want to be here. He
Speaker 4: did that, I'm a winner thing. I want a super
Speaker 4: Bowl in this building. Blah blah blah. But so, I mean,
Speaker 4: you got guys who are kind of doing their own
Speaker 4: little thing here, which I think Jerry kind of respects.
Speaker 3: Here's the clip.
Speaker 2: Because you want someone to want to stay here if
Speaker 2: you're not telling them you want them to stay here,
Speaker 2: It's called tolerance for Rammgoody the highest exactly. The example
Speaker 2: is the Mississippi riverboat gambler. He's his most charming, he's
Speaker 2: his most glib, he's his clever when on the next
Speaker 2: card he could get thrown overboard or on the next
Speaker 2: card on the boat, that's when he's the best.
Speaker 5: If you put.
Speaker 2: Someone like that and he knows for sure of what's
Speaker 2: going to happen at the end of the night, you
Speaker 2: won't see his full potential to go. So you've got
Speaker 2: to have a tolerance form the Goody to be on
Speaker 2: the INCINNI plan. Those that have him are war daddies
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's war daddies. I love it what he says, wordaddy.
Speaker 3: He was talking about coaches with incentive plans.
Speaker 5: Okay, so he's trying to go super cheap. But that
Speaker 5: would kind of lead me to what I've been pondering,
Speaker 5: is this idea that it's a two year CAPRI set
Speaker 5: at least, and this year is going to be the same,
Speaker 5: And so maybe he talks him into coming back for
Speaker 5: short term deal blaired with incentives, and if they do well,
Speaker 5: he gets to stay longer, and if he doesn't, then
Speaker 5: they'll make whatever change they're talking about mat deal.
Speaker 1: If that's the case, and we already know this, then
Speaker 1: that is the worst possible way you can run any
Speaker 1: sports organization whatsoever.
Speaker 3: Would it surprise you?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, not at all, and McCarthy would take it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. I mean, we talked about this before.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a fascination out there for McCarthy.
Speaker 3: I don't either. I think he's I think what is happening.
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, there could be some organizations, But I
Speaker 1: think what is happening is he's proven while he's been
Speaker 1: here that the NFL has left and behind.
Speaker 5: I mean, he was unemployed in a barn, and he
Speaker 5: tricked the Cowboys into hiring him by saying he watched
Speaker 5: every play and knows how to fix every problem.
Speaker 3: Beautiful.
Speaker 5: Then he went out and they had no postseason success.
Speaker 5: And so who's looking at that, going, yeah, we need that.
Speaker 1: I thought the Cowboys were going to fire him two
Speaker 1: years ago, and here we are, all right, that is
Speaker 1: going to do it for two day. Thank you for
Speaker 1: hanging out with us. We'll certainly be back tomorrow. I'll
Speaker 1: never forget the time KT looked Jerry Jones dead in
Speaker 1: his eye and he.
Speaker 4: Said, let's just keep our ears to the ground and
Speaker 4: see see who we can come up with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that really worked out well because we all
Speaker 1: have a lot of tolerance for ambiguity. All right, coming
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Speaker 4: There you going, well, I'm gonna get my sack back, dude,
Speaker 4: but I got to take a poop.