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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the Last of

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Us Season two reviews. This is for episode four. I'm

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the grenade tosser Tras Now I'm joined by.

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Speaker 2: I'm the take on Me Kirkland Patzer.

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Speaker 1: Yes, lays Jim, we are back. We are here. I

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think next week we might actually hopefully have everybody Dylan

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has been watching Dylan's just like just you know, one

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episode one fell asleep and you know, forgot the review

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was and the other times it hasn't lined up. Taylor's

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on a date night. So hopefully there'll be an episode

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of all four of Us. I think it's coming. We

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got how many episodes left? I think it's three more

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because I think it's a shorter season. Yeah, it's weird

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that short season. Yeah, three more. So I'm sure at

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least even for the finale it might happen. But we're

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back to talk about last week. So, like I said,

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episode four, Season two, as usual, do the non spoilers,

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and then we'll go on to our spoiled territory where

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we take a break. And I'm gonna go first because

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I was on last week, so I'll just transition to

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that and then we'll talk about some stuff later that

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we have been doing a key for stuff coming up.

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It's gonna be getting really busy, so some good content

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on the way. And was this good content? Absolutely? Yes,

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this is fantastic episode. I liked last week. I'm I

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don't know, it's much like because I saw some people

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talk about being slow or whatnot like that never really

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slowness doesn't bother me as long as there's great character

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stuff and I'm enjoying what's happening. And I feel like

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it's like we've talke about before, like HBO. I guess

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I'd have to think about other ones, but I'm just

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conditioned to feel like it's Game of Thrones whe every

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time something mass would happen to that, you'd always get

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like a very slow down, right, And that was last week,

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And I think this week was perfect because it was

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a big pick up. I think you got lots of developments,

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lots of introductions, lots of like not lots, but there's

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one new character in particular, which I feel like there's

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some heavy scenes there. I feel like the back half

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was having some good action and just some good kind

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of intense situations. And then near the end this episode

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there's two revelations that I'm happy have happened because we

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can talk about them. Plus there's some stuff that last

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week I was I'm still iffy on because there was

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one thing that didn't happen, but it kind of happened

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this week, so I'm like, Okay, a little out of order,

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but I can see how it goes. There's another thing

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I'm curious how they're gonna do, and then there's one

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thing I'll talk on spoys. So I'm really not worried,

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but hoping it's not true. They said something last week

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words ago, Oh yeah, that didn't happen. It's like, oh,

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that's something pretty big, but I trust them to figure

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it out. I don't know, but yeah, No, this week

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was great. Pacey was great. Both Bella and Isabelle were fantastic.

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but Isabelle just felt like I gonna say it was

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her episode, but felt like, in a sense, they gave

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her a lot to do, and I just thought, man,

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we've told this before, but just I feel like, in

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five years, you're just gonna see this lady everywhere. Like

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I feel like, yeah, people are gonna cast her. She's

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just so good, she's so natural at all the emotions

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where it just feels like a character, and Bella is too.

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already seen that multiple times, and I've already liked Isabelle

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as Dina. But I thought this was probably her standout

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episode for multitude reasons. I'm like, you know, they're kind

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of shedding some light on more these sUAS, where last

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week it was kind of like, hey, the wolves are

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just really fucking bad, and then this week it's like, well,

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you know, there could be two sides every story, kind

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of like with Joel, Abby and Ellie, right Like, it's

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like that's not like a one sided situation. So no,

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I thought this was great. I thought like, even though

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the big thing happened in episode two, this might be

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my favorite episode of this season. If not, it's on

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Park because episode two was big. But I also like,

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like the talent a tack stuff was cool. But like

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was invested, but I don't go back that cause it

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was just like a huge attack I just felt. And

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maybe that's because it doesn't happen the game. So for me,

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it just felt like action for the sake of action,

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where this action felt like it was all pertaining what's

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going on with their main characters. Of course Tommy is

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a main character, but I don't know, I just don't

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look at that and be like, man, that was fantastic.

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highlight for me. But yeah, so I think it was

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probably my favorite episode the season so far. And I

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think about Bella and Asabelle as this now team going

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to See Again emissions, Uh, just continue of great chemistry,

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continue to just have great scene after another. So yeah,

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very connected with what's going on right now, and was

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surprised where we got somewhere, like it's it. I'm always

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curious what they kind of fast travel in the game

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and then what they don't like. It's kind of funny

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the episode, like Ossie, I missed last week. The week

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before that was you and me and we were talking

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about planning out like the Seattle trip, and we fixty

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days there and last week it was like five minutes,

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it's there, and I was like, oh, we're really just

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kind of going there, and which I get, like it's

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it's funny because I that's why I don't know, because

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I think they've confirmed that, like at least the second

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games for sure gonna be split into two seasons. So

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for me, it's like, oh, we're probably gonna have lots

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of traveling to Seattle. So when they jump ahead, it's like, oh,

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that's curious. So I'm always curious what they are planning

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to kind of fast forward and stuff they're stopping at.

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But either a great episode for myself, what about you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think this is a really, uh fantastic episode.

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It was funny. I was telling you just offcast, Like

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Shaye is back in country now, so she's watching the show.

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so she was just catching up. And man, I appreciate

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those earlier episodes so much more specifically one, like I

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feel like I was kind of confused honestly the first

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time I watched episode one, just because I didn't rewatch

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that first season. I did like a really quick recap,

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but like definitely missed a few things. So just the

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emotion that the characters are already carrying entering the new season,

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like even before we have the five year jump. That

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just hit me so much differently. And then all of

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the stuff with Ellie and Joel. Uh, it just it

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hit me so much harder, like on a second viewing,

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just kind of knowing what I know now, the Abby stuff,

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like all the Firefly stuff, Like, I just liked that

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so much more on the second viewing, just because I

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think I was really expect unexpected. Uh was a weird

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way to say that. I was really surprised expected happened. Yeah,

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the Abby character and all the jol stuff. I just

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didn't think we're gonna be getting that this early. So

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I was really positive overall on the show, more so

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than I already was, which was really high on the show.

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positive mindset going into this episode. And I think this

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was a really, really fantastic episode. I agree with you.

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Isabella and Bella, I feel like Isabella is like she's

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kind of has to be so much more I don't

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and like her just facial features, Like she's just so

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much more I don't know what the word I'm looking for,

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like colorful, I think in comparison to someone like Ellie,

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because Ellie's very like keeps it in right, Yeah, like

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it's it's a whole performance issue or anything, like she's

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just not doing it. It's like that's actually what the

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character's supposed to be. So it's just an interesting contrast.

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because I feel like that those are specific moments where

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Ellie really is able to kind of put her guard down,

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even though like she's still trying to, but Dina just

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has a way to kind of break through that. And yeah,

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just the characters together are really really fun. So been

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just suspenseful moments and like I was like sweating and them,

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like I think they did a spectacular job and just

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really hitting on that and just intensity and the suspense.

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I heard some murmurs in the discord this might be

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a pretty accurate portrayal or comparison to the video game sequence.

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I remember this.

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like I haven't played it, just watching it, like them

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going through certain areas, going from one location or the other. Uh,

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it just had that that flavoring to it, like when

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they enter a new area and then as you said,

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like flares are going off and you're like, oh, this

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is the playing area and then it goes from like

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minor cut scene to like where you're actually controlling the characters.

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the threats felt really real. We get a little bit

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which I'm a lot more intrigued about. So yeah, I

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think from starting to finish those was just a really

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stellar episode and I'm really really hype this. This is

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one where when it ended, I was like, are you

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kidding me? Like that's it, that's all I get for

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this week. I gotta wait another week. So yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: It's like, when then, what the show is going to

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come back in like eight years or something like that.

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because I feel like all these prestige shows, it's almost

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like two years is the minimum, right, it's very rare,

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but just the way Hollywood works and actors doing so much,

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Speaker 2: You know for sure? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we're gonna take our first ad break

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and then we'll be right back talking full sports. So

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we'll be right and we are back. Where did you

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want to start with this? Bad Boy?

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Speaker 2: I I really like this episode for kind of what

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learning more about the wolves and the scars is that

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what they're called?

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Speaker 1: The yeah? The scars? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And because just quickly from last week, I was just

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so confused on what the fuck these people were like

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the scars because they're just they look really freaky. They

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have these like just ritualistic I don't know things on

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their body, uh with like well scars, the little scars,

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and then just like the emblems on their back, and

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what's shown, they just seem like victims, like they just

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completely been completely wiped out by the Wolves. And then

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we see a little bit more of both sides here

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and it's just a really intriguing dynamic I think to have,

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especially following Ellie and Dina, like for the viewer's sake,

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like this isn't the Wolves story or the Scars story.

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entering this like war zone where these two factions are

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like already going at it without your interference at all,

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and we just have to, you know, find a way

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through this jungle of warfare to get to our target,

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which is Abby and Crew. And uh. I was just

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really really enticed, I think by this dynamic where you

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but they're like, oh, well you betrayed us, and he's like, well,

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you betrayed us actually first, and then he goes, oh,

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never mind the chicken eggs and the aarrow who betrayed you.

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and so it's like one did something and who knows, right,

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because there's probably it's probably similar to like a Abby

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Joel Ellie's situation where it's like, okay, Joel's this bad

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thing to save Ellie because he doesn't think she should

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be killed. But at the same point, then he takes

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out all these from you know, the wol's point of view,

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innocent people, right, So then Abbey comes in the town

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kills them all and even though you know was the Jackson,

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they didn't, they didn't send a bunch of people out.

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they get to that point. But then also they in

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that conversation they had Jeff Wright talking about like, oh

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and you shot this kid in the head with the arrow.

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just looked like they were like a religious group that

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just got completely torn apart by the wolves. But it's

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definitely again it's like the Abbey thing where there's more

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too and I don't think there's a good guy bad guy,

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and I think it's good as well for you know, aviously,

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in the game, it's just kind of have more fodder

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to you gotta look out for clickers, you gotta look

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out for stalkers and the wolves and then blah blah blah.

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just as much harder for Ellie and he like there's

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some stuff because of course you can maybe sneak because

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there's a war going, but at the same time, there's

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just much more threats. It's not just like okay, we'll

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take Yeah, they're looking for someone. And plus it's like

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if you bump into the scars, I don't think they're

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gonna be like, yeah, we'll get you to Abby. Like

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like it's like another threat where it's like because you

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look what they've they did those people, they fucked them

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a big time. They struck them from the roof and

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ripped out there and Testine. So one, yeah, one, I

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liked that they showed like, okay, not black and white

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situation too, just another threat for uh Ellie and Dina

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to work through.

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season one, I was maybe like, just in terms of

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their motivation, I think I was just searching for something

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as clear as like, well, the fireflies want to cure everyone,

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you know, that like that's their goal here, But like

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I don't, like, I'm assuming they have some religious goals

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that they just want to I don't know, burn down

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the whole world to meet their God or something like that.

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I have no idea. And then for the wolves, it

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just seems like they're they're just a military that's just

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like we just we're just gonna be controlling this. They're

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doing like convoys and stuff. I imagine that's just because

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they're in the middle of a war, so they just

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kind of have to do that. But it doesn't seem like,

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at least for what was shown here, is probably gonna

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be something if at all that they cover later on,

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but just yeah, what is their actual goal and like

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what what makes them different from fireflies? Because I think

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that was another thing I was a little bit confused

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on when you have the sequence where it's like the

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flashback with Jeffrey Wright's character when he betrays Fedra to

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go to this side, Like are these people were they

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just always wolves? Are these like former firefly people or

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were the fireflies just in that specific area from like

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where we were in season one. I don't know if

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you want to answer that, It's probably gonna be a

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revealed Yeah, it might be.

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Speaker 1: Revealed also like a little like like fuzzy on that

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type of stuff, because it is I know, there's a reason.

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But even if you look at that, like Joel killed

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those fireflies and that was who Abby was with, but

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now she's with the wolves, right, So it's like it's like,

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and I'm not sure if it's just that, if it's

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just a contingent died out or something that broke off

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and it's like, okay, you're you know, we're gonna do

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our own things. But in my mind, I think they

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are like a bit there's some aspects where they're a

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bit more brutal, but I don't think it's like a

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huge jump from firefly. Like I think the scars obviously

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are quite different, right, like they're in their own bodies.

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It's more religious factor. But I think the wolves are

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just like an evolution of fireflies. It's not like a

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big like well, you know, fireflies or one thing. But

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these guys are really bad. It's almost just like in

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a different skin of clothing. But x Y and Z,

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I think we'll get there, like especially then they got

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Jeffrey Right back for the show. I don't know in

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this one, because I think we have three episodes, and

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I think we have one episode confirmed to be like

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another Bob episode that's just like a full just about

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other characters. Yeah, and I think that's gonna where what's

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a pagroll come back for an episode, because I think

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they'll be flashbacks, so like we really got like maybe

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two so I could see something with Jeffrey right being.

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I could see doing a full whether it's an abby

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episode or episodes. But even if it was just a

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Jeffrey Right I actually for a second thought this was

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gonna be that because star with Jeffrey right, Like, oh,

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is this going to be just a Jeffrey Right episode,

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and I'm glad it didn't. I don't get me wrong,

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I loved jeff Right, so I'm down for that. But

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I think with the stuff they did with Ellie and Dean,

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I think we're good to establish because when in the game,

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there's still more stuff to happen. But when they get

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to the theater, that's near around the time you flip

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over to Abby's perspective and start playing as her. So again,

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I'm not sure if they're gonna do that for because

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if we have three episodes left and one of those

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is like a one off, I'm wondering if they're gonna

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do that as the finale of this. But at the

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same time, it's very tricky because I just don't know

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what point they leave off to like make people wanting more,

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because it's not like it's not like season one where Okay,

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everyone's story ends, but Joel did a really crazy thing,

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and how's it gonna happen? Right, I feel like it's

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gonna be interesting when you end of like these characters

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are still in a collision course. Like I still think

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there's a chance that I mean Ellie because they you know,

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it's Myersports, but they meet up multiple times in the game.

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There's multiple situations. I wonder even this season if they're

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even gonna interact, or if that's the finale of the

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season of them finally like Ellie finally getting in there,

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and like, I'm wondering what they're gonna do to feel

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in a satisfying conclusion for people like, oh that was

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season two, not feel like it's like a like a

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Part one movie situation right where you know, deathly Hollos

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or Hunger Games where it's like, oh, this feels like

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half a movie, you know, I like some of those

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Part Ones. But it's interesting. But anyways, long story short,

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I could see in the future getting a full just

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Jeffrey right episode because like, he's an amazing actor. If

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he agreed to come back, it's like use him, you know,

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like if you want to tell the stories. Because that

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was a great opening scene. You got fucking Josh Peck randomly, and.

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Speaker 2: There was so many like familiar faces, like I definitely

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couldn't just name all those actors in there, but I'm like, man,

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I recognize that guy, Josh pay I recognize that guy.

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I've seen him in something. And then yeah, it just

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goes to Jeffrey right I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?

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We got Jeffrey righty, here the Watcher, let's go.

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Speaker 1: We took. I love that you go to Watcher instead

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of Gordon first, you know that, you know, speaking of

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Hunger games. I guess he's in there too. But yeah,

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that was something where because I don't think that if

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I don't again, I could be wrong. I don't think

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that scene is in the game. I think this is

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to give him more backstory. That was great because I

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knew something was up. But when he just went back

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the measine of the fear of us. But you're just

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in there waiting and you're fucking Serge just takes off

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the pins, chucks them in and locks the door on you. Like,

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my god, what a I.

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Speaker 2: Feel it's like low chance he kills everyone with that,

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Like I feel like somebody's gonna like hide behind a

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body though, So that's kind of tough. It is a

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pretty small area. Yeah, you are right, that is just

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a big explosion, So yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Feel like that's a problem where you could survive the

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first explosion, but that's gonna move stuff around, right, And

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then you got the other one and even then, I

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feel like you're wounded enough to because at the same time,

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because the driver.

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Speaker 2: Gets locked the door to so like how the fuck

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are you gonna get out of the Yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: The driver gets out, and like even in the because

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the TV show, but even the explosions they didn't seem massive,

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So I was even wondering, are they more like just

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like like smoke or eight like like knockout smoke, Like

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I don't know what they have in that situation because

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even then, like the guard gets out and there's tons

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of smoke that could be explosions, right, but same thing,

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he's locked, so it's like you'd have to get through

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that gate. So I feel like, even if you don't

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die from explosion, the MIC just leave you in there

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and you're just fucking you're dying, right, And can you

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remember the rules of this world? Is it that if

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you just die, If you just die, you don't become

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the core st monster?

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Speaker 2: You gotta be infected by one, would imagine they Yeah,

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I think you have to be bitten, like you have

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to be alive.

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Speaker 1: That's how it isn't walking Dad. That was like a

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big reveal that, oh, if you died no matter what

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you're infected. But I just think that would suck if

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you're the one survivor, they lock you in and all

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these bodies are turned into.

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Speaker 2: These ces to be infected. So I feel like, yeah,

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I don't feel like I feel like the cordyceps could

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just like take over the nervous system even though it

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shut down, Like it'd have to be a pretty recent death.

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That's my assumption.

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Speaker 1: But so no, just die by starvation there you But

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great scene, great ye kept that kept that one guy alive,

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who then you know, eleven years later is looking like

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he's been through some ship. He's at the first scene,

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they kind of make him seem like you might have

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some you know, human care and quality, but now it

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seems like he's just like a fucking.

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Speaker 2: Which guy was he? So?

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Speaker 1: Remember? Uh the got so Jeffrey Wright, he asks Josh Peck.

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There's like the young guys.

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Speaker 2: I remember the guy vote he removes from the vehicle.

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But yes, that we see him after the eleven years.

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Speaker 1: So when he was burning that one guy, there was

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the one guard who's like, oh I wish you would

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stop or whatnot?

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Speaker 2: Oh he was the other guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when he's because he had longer hair or they

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just took his helmet off, and when he shoots me

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the good fucking savage that was yeah. And that's where

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he's just a completely like military robot guy now where

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eleven years have been a tough time on him now

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where the first he's kind of a bit poor, bushy

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eye and seemed like want to do Yeah, so yeah, that.

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Speaker 2: Makes better for me. I think it was the hair

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that threw it off, because in the flashback it's luckily

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you had blonde hair or something. I don't know, but

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I know, I, I mean, yeah, I really like that opening.

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It just I don't know, I feel like it just

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shows how unstable this world is overall. Oh yeah, you

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have this like organized military federal group, but they already

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having infighting and and just just breaking off. And then

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I'll just talk about like the torture sequence too, just

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because talk about Jeffy Right's character. But I really really

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love that sequence too. I think it was It was

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interesting because in the flashback it shows Jeffrey Wright has

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like a sort of morality to him, right, where like

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Josh Peck's character is just talking about how they just

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smash this poor they're calling them voters face in for

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just asking a very normal question, and then they're just

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laughing about it and just going off and just clearly

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not giving a shit that this is like a human

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person that went through this. And then Jeffy Wright, you know,

471
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says the one line whatever it is, I'm gonna try

472
00:20:31,279 --> 00:20:33,279
to paraphrase, but just shows that he has that side

473
00:20:33,319 --> 00:20:35,519
to him, and it seems like he picked out that

474
00:20:35,559 --> 00:20:38,039
one other guy because he saw that way too, right,

475
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,359
Like he actually asked like, well, why do we call

476
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,759
them voters? You know, it's not anything from like saving

477
00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:47,359
a child or anything, but at least he's he's putting

478
00:20:47,559 --> 00:20:51,279
somewhat of like what why are we labeling them this term?

479
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,599
So where we are eleven years later that he can

480
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,440
just torture this hunk a meat right in front of

481
00:20:57,519 --> 00:20:59,519
him and he doesn't give a shit because he just

482
00:20:59,519 --> 00:21:03,279
needs to get his answers. Clearly, they've been through a lot,

483
00:21:03,319 --> 00:21:06,039
like he's talking about, you know, they've had children that

484
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,200
take arrows to the heads and just innocence that have

485
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,279
died in this war that they're they're throwing. But it

486
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,359
just to me, it just showed like he's been through

487
00:21:14,559 --> 00:21:17,200
a lot and some change has happened in the character.

488
00:21:17,799 --> 00:21:20,160
He might like he might still have that military just

489
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,799
stratagem in the mindset and everything, but just something happened,

490
00:21:23,839 --> 00:21:26,200
and it's probably just the world overall, because this is

491
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,680
a very dark world. People are pretty awful obviously. You know,

492
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,240
we saw the Scars. Just some disembowel someone that. Whenever

493
00:21:33,279 --> 00:21:35,119
I see that happen, it's not often, but it just

494
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,799
makes me think of Hannibal and whatever season when when

495
00:21:37,799 --> 00:21:40,880
they go to Europe and he does it to it's Jack,

496
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,880
isn't it fucking or Jack sees the guy do it?

497
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:46,720
I don't know, I can't remember.

498
00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Jack makes sense. I don't think said

499
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,519
maybe he tries maybe maybe he tries it on Jack.

500
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,799
Speaker 2: In my memory though, the bell tower just got spewed

501
00:21:54,799 --> 00:21:55,440
into the ground.

502
00:21:55,519 --> 00:21:58,799
Speaker 1: Like but yeah, I've been wanting to rewatch that show,

503
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,559
but yeah.

504
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 2: What's going on? Too much content to watch.

505
00:22:03,799 --> 00:22:06,839
Speaker 1: Finish just Randing Kirkling, you know, talking about MAT's Michaelson.

506
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,759
That's gonna be my new thing. Give me shit because

507
00:22:09,799 --> 00:22:14,799
it's great, it's great, you know, so uh yeah, yeah,

508
00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:19,359
the Torch she was great, like just just a big

509
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,720
shot of just guy fully naked being to ship. It's

510
00:22:23,799 --> 00:22:25,559
like Jesus, like I knew, I knew.

511
00:22:25,319 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 2: He's going south with that hot pan. Honestly, he's gonna

512
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:28,359
do something.

513
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,519
Speaker 1: Especially because they had that cock wide out. I'm like,

514
00:22:31,519 --> 00:22:34,480
oh man, what's gonna happen? But I did love when

515
00:22:34,519 --> 00:22:37,039
he gives this whole speech and he goes to warm

516
00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:39,000
it up again and the guy has his hand waiting

517
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,400
out there, and then it's just like okay, hes shoots

518
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,319
theim because like they're gonna get nowhere with this guy shirt.

519
00:22:43,319 --> 00:22:46,240
Because at the same time, like again, what they're showing

520
00:22:46,319 --> 00:22:49,200
so far is, yeah, Jeffer Wright, kill those people of grenade,

521
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,519
probably willing to make sacrifices. But at the same time,

522
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,519
I'm gonna hope that people that are still somewhat right minded,

523
00:22:54,559 --> 00:22:57,240
they don't want to just torture people for hours, right,

524
00:22:57,279 --> 00:22:59,640
So there might be someone in that situation that knows

525
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,599
full all the scars not gonna give you any information,

526
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,079
but they could torch them and be like, oh, well,

527
00:23:04,319 --> 00:23:06,119
I was just trying to get information. Jeff Wright knows

528
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,759
this is just a waste of time. Do I want

529
00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:09,960
to sit here and sell burnt skin and do all this?

530
00:23:10,039 --> 00:23:12,440
It's like, no, I did move on, and that's how

531
00:23:12,519 --> 00:23:15,000
loyal they are, right, and uh, you know, he kind

532
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,960
of makes those cracks at him about thinking like oh,

533
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,039
you really think she's gonna save you or all this stuff.

534
00:23:19,079 --> 00:23:22,079
But hey, they're they're fully bought in and they again

535
00:23:22,319 --> 00:23:24,519
fully at war because we saw that last episode. We

536
00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:26,680
saw this episode of the disembowels and she's there was

537
00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:30,960
arrows around two, so they're they're fighting and whatnot, and

538
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,920
and Jeffer Ray gives the whole you know, we got

539
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,240
hospitals and automatic guns. You guys got Bold action rifles

540
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,960
and you know, a few bow and arrows. What do

541
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,440
you go? And he's like, oh, well the faith of

542
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,359
her and jeff Array can't get can't can't cat through

543
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,599
this guy. So yeah, yeah, I liked everything they did here.

544
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,680
And Jeffer Wright is a great actor, and I'm glad

545
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,920
they're giving him some new scenes. I can't remember fully

546
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,759
of this torture scenes there, but the other one just

547
00:23:56,799 --> 00:24:00,359
because you know one well, I guess actors do play

548
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,000
plays all the time, but it must be fun to

549
00:24:02,039 --> 00:24:03,799
still do some new stuff instead just come in and

550
00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:05,880
do the exact same stuff from the game that you voiced,

551
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,599
but I guess even then it's different, right, And that's

552
00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:10,599
where it's like, love the video game everything it does,

553
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,240
but like you can't video game Jeffer right, Like seeing

554
00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:18,240
Jeffer right there on stage, that's pretty close. And that's

555
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,039
why I gotta finish it because you know, in the third.

556
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,799
Speaker 2: Baby and I'm looking at him like Papa.

557
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: There's lots of great stuff there, so but no all

558
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,160
good stuff with the jeff Right and the crew here.

559
00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:28,240
So mm hmm.

560
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I was gonna go to the

561
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,079
action sequences, but we talk about the ladies all in one.

562
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: I guess, well, I was gonna say, is there anything

563
00:24:39,759 --> 00:24:41,599
we didn't check it back into the town? Oh, That's

564
00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:44,200
what I was gonna say, because last week I wasn't

565
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,440
on what's the big change for the game players? And

566
00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:50,880
I understand because I'm more of a wait and see.

567
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,400
So Tommy, we talked about this on the actual episode

568
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,319
in the episode two when Joel got killed. Tommy's there

569
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,920
for that, and that's the whole situation with this whole

570
00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:02,480
chasing them going to Seattle. What happens first is like

571
00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:05,960
immediately there's no like Tommy waits for the town oh yeah, yeah,

572
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,240
he like just gets on a horse and fucking goes

573
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,160
to find these people and then yeah, Tommy and then

574
00:25:12,279 --> 00:25:14,680
Ellie and Dina, Like that's how they get there is

575
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,720
because they kind of track down like follow in his

576
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,119
footsteps and follow Tommy. So that's what's very interesting is

577
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,039
well they're not really doing that, just Diana and Ellie

578
00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:24,039
are getting the situation at this end this episode, we

579
00:25:24,039 --> 00:25:26,519
saw like okay, they saw where I can't base might

580
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:28,880
be that's probably where abvious. So there's that. But I

581
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,440
do understand for characters that are people if they really

582
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,440
which I do really enjoy Tommy, I'm waiting to see

583
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,440
because I don't know what's better what's not because I

584
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,319
I yeah, for me to wait and see, because I

585
00:25:41,319 --> 00:25:43,039
don't think it's complete right off yet. I think you

586
00:25:43,079 --> 00:25:45,359
can get Tommy in the story. But at the same time,

587
00:25:45,759 --> 00:25:47,839
if it is just oh well, we replaced a lot

588
00:25:47,839 --> 00:25:50,640
of his arc with him fighting monsters in the town.

589
00:25:50,839 --> 00:25:52,680
That is a bit of a disappointment for me because

590
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,720
in the game he's also supposed to have like massive

591
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,519
survivors guilt because he was there and they didn't kill him, right,

592
00:25:58,599 --> 00:26:03,039
And that's the other thing where I I won't say

593
00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:05,640
yet because I don't want to get too far, but yeah,

594
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,279
so I'm curious for people I understand that complain if

595
00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:11,079
they're fans of Tommy where I'm not gonna say he's

596
00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:15,079
been benched yet, But I don't know. I guess they

597
00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:17,119
could add for the fact and make him get involved

598
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,519
in this adventure and say, oh, you know what, I

599
00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:21,599
regret not going and you know I'm gonna happen now.

600
00:26:21,599 --> 00:26:23,839
But it almost feels like, why would you not just

601
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,640
do them in the original way, Like if Tommy does

602
00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:27,680
end up joining them on this adventure, why wouldn't you

603
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,559
just do it in the original way where he goes first?

604
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,000
And then you know, maybe they just want to stretch

605
00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:34,880
episode out with his voting everything. But I do understand

606
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,039
that's where some people are worried, and even the theater

607
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,079
they'd meet Tommy there and stuff. So I don't know

608
00:26:39,079 --> 00:26:41,160
if that's gonna happen in a different roundabout way, but

609
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,480
that is a big thing that's different is they're kind

610
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,799
of falling his footsteps to go help him out and

611
00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:47,799
join them, where this they've completely gone on their own

612
00:26:47,799 --> 00:26:50,039
and Tommy's just back, And that's what reminded me that

613
00:26:50,079 --> 00:26:51,559
we didn't check in with the town all, which I

614
00:26:51,599 --> 00:26:54,119
think will probably'll probably check in there at least not

615
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,079
counting that flashback episode at least one more time. But

616
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,319
it is a it's this odd situation so far with

617
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:00,839
the change.

618
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,839
Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, my guess would be because we

619
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,039
have the town, like that's why Tommy is still there,

620
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,079
just to have like an it just a tie to

621
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,160
that location, because without Tommy, like we know the other characters,

622
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,160
but do we really care. And honestly, even even with

623
00:27:16,319 --> 00:27:19,480
Diana and Ellie being in Seattle and those whole dynamics,

624
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,200
like I'm just so much more intrigued with that and

625
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,440
what was shown here with Jeffrey Wright's character Abby, Like

626
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,880
there is so much going on outside of the town

627
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,119
that I'm more interested in. But I don't know, it

628
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,240
just seems with what they've been setting up here in

629
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:35,000
the season, it really makes me feel like we're gonna

630
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:37,920
be definitely not focusing on the town for the rest

631
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,480
of the season, but at least checking in there, I imagine,

632
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,880
especially just because they were They're hinting it so much

633
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,359
like infected getting closer and then like like just burying

634
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,799
deep you know greedily as the Dwarves would do. So

635
00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:52,839
it just it feels like we haven't written that town

636
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,200
off yet for what set up on the show. And honestly,

637
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,559
if we never go back there, I would I feel

638
00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:01,079
like I would give it a con but like at

639
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,440
the same time, like I'm not as interested in that,

640
00:28:03,519 --> 00:28:07,279
so it'll be it'll be a complicated thing to tackle

641
00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:07,960
if we get there.

642
00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so there's nothing else, right, we talk about jeffriends,

643
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,279
Scar's Tommy thing. I think it's just Dean and the girls.

644
00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:18,400
Now there's well, they didn't go anywhere else in this episode,

645
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,599
right unless I'm forgetting but.

646
00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: I know it's just what the girls there?

647
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: We go there? Yeah, so what do you think?

648
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: No, I mean, yeah, spoilers. Just those two together are fantastic.

649
00:28:27,799 --> 00:28:31,839
I love the sequence when they go to the music store. Uh,

650
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,599
there's like minor glimpses of imagery that I remember from

651
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,200
part two, even though I haven't played the game. I'm

652
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,839
just Ellie with the guitar is someone that's just singed

653
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,119
in my brain. I don't know if that was like

654
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,119
a poster for the game, but that is just in

655
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:43,720
my mind.

656
00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: Uh, it's a lot of the three marketing and everything

657
00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:50,559
like it was a lot, And I'm pretty sure because

658
00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:52,400
there's even a sequence I don't know if it's fully

659
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,599
in the game that they tried to trick people where

660
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,720
Ellie's playing the guitar and Joel's playing with them. Obviously

661
00:28:56,799 --> 00:28:59,160
Joel's dead, so it's just them fucking with gamers being like,

662
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,440
don't worry. Even one of the trailers ended with like

663
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,039
Ellie doing stuff in Seattle and Joel pulls her back

664
00:29:05,119 --> 00:29:07,240
and it's like, you're not gonna do the outme kid, Like,

665
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:09,440
don't I'm not spoiling them. There's no like ghost. If

666
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,160
they add a ghost Joel, I'm not spoiling anything. That's

667
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,359
not the thing that happens. But in the game trailers

668
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,319
they even like added him Seattle to make it seem like,

669
00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:18,640
oh no, he's around, but uh no, he was not.

670
00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:21,240
But the guitar was a big like selling point on

671
00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:26,519
posters everything you know, Oh you reminded me. No, they

672
00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:28,160
don't know that one. But I was looking for a

673
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,119
thumbnail tonight. I gotta show you this one episode four

674
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,440
because there's some place that they just make like just

675
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,240
bad like teaser trailers, AI and everything. But look at

676
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:42,960
this one, the face show down between Abby.

677
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: And no one would have got me.

678
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: No one would have got me probably, yeah, essentially, like no,

679
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:51,599
just because that's a big thing with Like, Okay, again

680
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,400
I agree, I'm still in the camp that yes, I

681
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,400
wish they I'm not in a sense trying to body

682
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,920
shame Caitlyn Deaver. They did not tell her to bulk

683
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,480
up or anything like that, so that's fine. I do

684
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:01,920
wish she got some other Abby. But it's just so

685
00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:04,119
funny that they did an AI version Kaitlyn TV and

686
00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:06,279
they're like make her jacked and like just like but

687
00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:10,079
her head looks completely not there. And I guess I

688
00:30:10,119 --> 00:30:12,720
should say for audio listeners, but it's there's a tank.

689
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,359
Of course, they're in the middle road of Seattle. There's

690
00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:17,359
a tank. Ellie's behind there with a gun and then

691
00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:19,079
Abby's on the other side in a tank top and

692
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,119
she's just like her arms are the biggest you've ever

693
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,240
seen Kaitlyn diver her she's got ostrochen neck. Again, there's

694
00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:26,759
no body shame this all AI shit going on here.

695
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:30,279
But yeah, there's quite a like completely not around the tank.

696
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,119
She's like so out of the tank you would see

697
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,839
her Abby could just shoot her arm to start, you know,

698
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,599
like that, you actually you could shoot her head, shoot

699
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:40,000
her head. Her head is poking out so close. I'm

700
00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:42,640
not gonna share them all, but there's so many that

701
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,599
they just like it's it's Dina and Ellie running away

702
00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:47,839
from like an AI clicker or something like that. There's

703
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,920
tons of that, so it's uh, but unfortunately lots of

704
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,319
them get clicks. Like I said, it's the it's like

705
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,400
it's like that Titanic meme to just like a quick tangent.

706
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,519
I don't think we ever to about on the air

707
00:30:57,519 --> 00:30:59,200
on Tim Taylor because we talked about this before where

708
00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:02,680
people's I had a friend on Facebook always full play

709
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,079
the fake movie poster and Taylor shared us a conversation

710
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,400
someone was having with somebody like their mom, and it

711
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,160
was a screenshot it's like, oh, man, Titanic too. And

712
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:13,759
then the person like, well, no, that that that's an

713
00:31:13,799 --> 00:31:16,680
AI thing. That's not happening, and the mom was like, well,

714
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,799
I guess we'll see, and it's like that's how feel.

715
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,200
It's like, no, like if you'll just buy into these

716
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,039
thumb nails like same thing. There's so many Episode four

717
00:31:24,119 --> 00:31:26,759
trailers with an AI image and it's like, oh, but yeah,

718
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:30,559
you're you're three weeks You're three weeks away from own Taylor.

719
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,799
Speaker 2: PiZZ this clicker multiple times. I'm just waiting for him

720
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:33,440
to get in a position.

721
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: But like that looks like snow, right. I don't think

722
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,000
it's gonna snow anytime soon.

723
00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:40,759
Speaker 2: So yeah, it would have been like episode two, like

724
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:41,640
that would have been.

725
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:44,559
Speaker 1: The closest we're gonna get. I'm hoping it's because last

726
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:46,359
year during GV ten here day and that's why I

727
00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:48,079
cash cash on my pizza bet.

728
00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: Hopefully you can a lot of pizzas.

729
00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:52,519
Speaker 1: Hopefully you can do something with Taylor beforehand and you

730
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:54,000
guys can just equal it out.

731
00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:57,359
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm gonna be aggressive. Yeah, pretty anyway, you know,

732
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,680
he doesn't accept them unless he knows he's he's gonna win.

733
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: Pretty And that was a smart one day accept Yeah. Yeah,

734
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:03,319
that video though, you.

735
00:32:03,319 --> 00:32:05,039
Speaker 2: Know I talked about that they get clicks. That one

736
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,319
was like the most viewed. I swear it was like

737
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,559
on par with like the actual HBO account one. Funny

738
00:32:11,559 --> 00:32:13,880
how that works. But you know, just the the guitar

739
00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:16,920
singles she's playing, does she play take on me in

740
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,559
the game, Okay, Wow, I thought it was a different

741
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:23,400
just because through marketing, I guess they just they posted

742
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:26,559
like the actress like doing that sequence like mo capped

743
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,240
and everything, and I thought it was a different song.

744
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:30,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, they probably didn't show him behind the scenes

745
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,319
not to get a copy right strike, but yeah they did,

746
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:34,119
which is funny. I was doing yard work I listened

747
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:35,839
to that song and I thought, when I listened to song,

748
00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:37,200
I'm like, man, I don't know if you remember they

749
00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:40,680
used the acoustic version Deadpool two when he's saying goodbye

750
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,319
to Vanessa, and that's like, to me, like a ten

751
00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:46,079
at ten supier version. So it's funny that they played

752
00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:48,200
this year. But great scene and again it's Bill Marsett

753
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:50,480
just like you know, she just has to act and

754
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,359
like bella great singing voice too. I don't know if

755
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,000
they like adjusted anything, but that's it's it's a hard

756
00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:00,519
thing too, just like because I get not like Ellie

757
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:03,240
sings a lot, right, So I just feel like when

758
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,160
they search for the actress of Ellie the first season,

759
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,359
they're not like, make sure she can sing, because I

760
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,880
feel like, well, it's gonna be one, see we can

761
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,640
figure it out. And again maybe maybe it is just

762
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,400
maybe it's like those posters. Maybe it's Ai Bella Ramsey,

763
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,680
but maybe not her. But it felt good and even

764
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,759
the imagery was very similar the game, with the setting

765
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:22,160
and the sunlight hidden her and uh yeah great, great moment.

766
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: And of just the guitar like when they leave. I'm like,

767
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,279
I've seen that poster. I've seen that somewhere, but I know,

768
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,680
just like the little like intricacies of like her not

769
00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:34,200
hitting like the perfect notes, which would make sense because yeah,

770
00:33:34,279 --> 00:33:38,400
she's not, like she's not a seasoned singer performing all

771
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,720
the time, but it just felt really authentic. I liked

772
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:43,480
Isabelle finding her and just being so like again, just

773
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:45,759
so animated with her reactions, like just keep going like

774
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,480
she's she's just such a ball of light for someone

775
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:50,640
that like Ellie, that has been through so much to

776
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:53,000
just have that paired up with her, Like Joel wasn't that.

777
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,039
Joel wasn't keep going, oh my god, your no. Maybe

778
00:33:56,079 --> 00:33:58,400
he was through throughout throughout the five year gap, but

779
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:01,000
like from what I've seen and see and one he's like,

780
00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:03,079
come on your cargo, you're not a family, let's fucking go.

781
00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: He was to start, I feel like near the end though,

782
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:09,639
like not the she wasn't fucking balling there, but he

783
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,760
got that. She got the light out of him right

784
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,400
near the end, and I think you'd get that father daughter,

785
00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:16,800
And that's the other thing. I I don't think this

786
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,800
is a spoiler, but the thing I want to mention

787
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,400
him last week because her and Dina talked about this.

788
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:26,199
They said that or maybe maybe it's uh Catherine O'Hara.

789
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,039
Either way, yeah, I think it was. They talked about like,

790
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,920
was did you ever talk to Joel again? And she

791
00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:34,079
said no, I'm not trying to spoil something. But in

792
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,159
the game they did talk before he was killed. So

793
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,639
I don't know though, because in the show it's not

794
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,920
like some character asks and she says, yeah, we didn't talk.

795
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,320
They just show a flashback. So I am kinda worried.

796
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,320
I just hope that's still in there because there is

797
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,639
something to like kind of transition to we're talking about

798
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:56,199
the guitar scenes, so kind of makes sense that obviously

799
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,679
in this episode, like they they kiss and they have

800
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,760
sex and they kind of like amit their feelings towards

801
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,639
one another. What was different in the game is that

802
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,079
had already happened before they left to Seattle like they

803
00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:08,199
were a fully I'm not gonna say they were girlfriends,

804
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,000
but they were get Like I remember a couple episodes

805
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,440
ago where they found that weed room or whatever. There's

806
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,599
a whole set piece where they've just like you, the

807
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,360
the cut scene starts like post sex and they're talking

808
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,480
and they're in their underwear and it's very cute like

809
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:23,800
back and forth scene like similar to what we got tonight,

810
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,480
except they didn't do the underwear of course, like now

811
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,079
fully clothe them and everything. That's fine, I'm just saying,

812
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,679
but like, so that's where I'm on.

813
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,519
Speaker 2: Sure from that guy.

814
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: You saw enough nudity tonight fans. But no, So that's

815
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,000
where with the Joel thing, I'm not sure. And for me,

816
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:42,079
like the scene is great and as a key like conversation,

817
00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:45,239
so I'm hoping it is just put somewhere else because

818
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,480
that's where this was because that for me changed the

819
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:51,000
dynamic where Ellie and Dina, and that's where I did

820
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:52,599
like the scene. But I still like the scene tonight.

821
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:55,679
It was the idea of before Joel gets killed, Ellie

822
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,000
is like the happiest she's ever been because she's with

823
00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:01,000
Dina and Ellie her and Joel kind of talk and

824
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:02,760
kind of figure some stuff up. So it's kind of like, oh,

825
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,199
Ellie's life is finally on the upswing and then you know,

826
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,199
golf club, so they move this till later on. I

827
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,519
still liked the reasoning that Dina gave up. Hey, I

828
00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:13,519
thought you were gonna die. So it's just like because

829
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:15,039
I thought, oh, this is odd time to just make

830
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:15,960
love for the first time.

831
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:17,599
Speaker 2: I thought that too, person just.

832
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: Got bit you just announced you're pregnant. But to me,

833
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,039
she made it make sense of well I did it

834
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:23,719
because like half an hour ago, I thought I could

835
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,199
never do it now, right, So it's this thing like

836
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,599
just to take advantage and they they could die. So

837
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,880
but yeah, that is something in the game already established

838
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,320
where they made this a will they won't they But

839
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,920
they really didn't go on it for too long and

840
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,719
now they're together, so I'm happy about that. So and

841
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:40,079
good scene.

842
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was. It was a good scene. It

843
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:45,480
was funny. There's just again, there's some great discussion in

844
00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:47,800
the GV discord about the show, so go check that out.

845
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,599
But yeah, just I remember you guys mentioning that how

846
00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:53,800
they left that out from I think it was last.

847
00:36:53,639 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: Week you were talking about maybe even too well because

848
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,239
it's it's episode two, because yeah, it happens right before.

849
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,960
But I thought, even though would be like a weird

850
00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:02,440
situation for Ellie and Dina to be getting it on

851
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:04,719
after Joel died, you never know, right, the show could

852
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,679
have positioned as like grief and that's how they found

853
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,519
out because I thought, oh, that's like the weed shops

854
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:11,599
and Jackson, so it has to happen. I really like

855
00:37:11,679 --> 00:37:14,000
that scene, so I was disappointed it didn't. But you know,

856
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:15,679
like I said, like, and I don't know why they

857
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,199
changed it, Like, I really don't because it's the same,

858
00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:21,000
it's the same result. She's like, we're gonna get there.

859
00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:23,679
She's still pregnant, like she's in the game. They're together now,

860
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,719
So I would love to and I'm sure they will

861
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,880
just talk about like why certain changes happened here or there,

862
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,039
because I thought, Okay, they're not gonna do that because

863
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:33,199
they want to drag out like the they want to

864
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,880
do like a whole season a half of the will

865
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,320
they won't they? But really they could have just had

866
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,599
them hook up last week and then on the road.

867
00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:41,519
So I stuff that I don't know if it's just

868
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,440
just to be different, maybe made just to say goo

869
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:44,079
to be different.

870
00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, but who knows, who knows what was

871
00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:49,320
on their their strategem board. Yeah, but I did like

872
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,280
the sequence. I was a little bit just is this

873
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,360
really the best time to be doing this, just because, like,

874
00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:56,719
I don't know, it felt like the wolves were still

875
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,199
kind of on their heels. I guess they got fucked

876
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,800
up pretty well by the infected because in my mind,

877
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,000
I'm like, man, there's so many threats around here, like

878
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:05,840
the fucking scars could come in here and start dis

879
00:38:06,679 --> 00:38:09,559
disemboweling people. But yeah, I mean, you know, when you're

880
00:38:09,559 --> 00:38:12,519
almost dead, you just go with the passion and you

881
00:38:12,599 --> 00:38:14,039
want it and you want it and they just go

882
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:17,280
for it. So I liked it. I like that it happened.

883
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,480
I liked how yeah, just the whole sequence. I like

884
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:22,159
the follow up when they're just kind of chatting and.

885
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,639
Speaker 1: They went away a little longer because you know, I'm

886
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:26,920
taking out the world word.

887
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 2: And the clicker thing but still checking a few times.

888
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,039
Speaker 1: You know, imagine you're about you, but I'm so close

889
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:34,920
and like terrible.

890
00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:39,199
Speaker 2: Terrible going in the kind of Lingi's position and then

891
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,159
just starting turning. That would be a bad place to

892
00:38:41,159 --> 00:38:41,599
get bitten.

893
00:38:41,639 --> 00:38:44,079
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'll do it. You get me next time,

894
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:45,079
get me next time.

895
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:49,679
Speaker 2: Like you know, so yeah, yeah, but I did like

896
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,199
just the intensity of you know, we didn't talk about

897
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,960
the chase, but like the bite when she when she

898
00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:58,639
saves her with that, I thought like they could have

899
00:38:58,679 --> 00:39:00,880
handled a little bit better. But but uh, it's it's

900
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,199
it's definitely far from the classic like Prisoner of Azkaban

901
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,639
where it's like give me that guy, I'm gonna fucking

902
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,519
kill him right now. You'll you know, I wait in

903
00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:12,960
in Askaban, like when when Serious Black is trying to

904
00:39:13,039 --> 00:39:15,280
kill Harry. Essentially, it's just like, guys, let's just let's

905
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:21,039
just talk this out for just like they like, it

906
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:22,719
never got to the point where I'm like, Dena's actually

907
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,039
gonna shoot her here, but I I it just seemed

908
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:27,280
like they could have said a couple more things. But

909
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,679
it is just an intense sequence, especially from Dina's perspective,

910
00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:33,880
like this is someone that you clearly clear uh clearly

911
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,400
cares so much about. This whole mission is pretty much

912
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:39,199
like she's not gonna chase after Abby if she loses

913
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,559
Ellie here, she's just gonna go back to Jackson, I

914
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:44,599
would imagine unless she's really on a suicide mission. It

915
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,960
just seems like it's already like impossible task. But if

916
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,559
you lose another member, like like if if Diana dies

917
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,880
Abby or not. Fuck if Diana dies, Ellie is still

918
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,719
gonna go after Abbey no matter what, because she's just

919
00:39:55,039 --> 00:39:57,840
that is her suicide mission. But uh, for Dina, I

920
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,239
I don't think it would be the same thing. So

921
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,280
there is just so much motion on like, oh my god,

922
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,519
she's bit I'm gonna have to kill her right here,

923
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:04,480
like I did like the.

924
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 1: Build up to it there where you just see Deane

925
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,840
in the background, like like Ellie's just act like she's

926
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,119
closing doors, she's moving chairs, like she's locking the whole

927
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:14,280
place up. But Dina's just standing there like like shot

928
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,239
like yeah, what do I do here? You know? And

929
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,280
good shot, even though I thought it was a little long.

930
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,880
I like the shot when she woke up and she

931
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,840
had the light up and then she showed the scar

932
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,320
and the light went down. I thought they had the

933
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,280
light on her for a little like too long, because

934
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,039
I'm like, Isabelle's a great actress, like, let me see

935
00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:29,199
her face reacting this whole time. But one of my

936
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,400
favorite I can't remember that this isn't the game or not,

937
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:33,199
but one of my favorite lines is when Ellie woke

938
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,119
up the water was hitting her and she wakes up,

939
00:40:35,159 --> 00:40:36,960
she started hitting herself, but she's like, no, no, no,

940
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:38,480
it's just water. It's just a rain. But like it

941
00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:42,639
was Bella's delivery of it. It's just like I was laughing,

942
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,280
not hysterically, but it's just because it is like, yeah,

943
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,159
this person wakes up and there like moving weird. I

944
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,920
just thought it was great comedic timing. But and even

945
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,159
then it felt like, uh but I guess I don't know.

946
00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:57,000
I can't remember how long. I guess Dena's probably seen

947
00:40:57,119 --> 00:41:00,239
enough where she'd think that, Okay, to this point, they

948
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,480
probably should have turned and like you said with ask Man,

949
00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:04,280
like same thing, like all I should be like, hey,

950
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,760
like I got multiple bikes.

951
00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah that's what I mean, Like just show her her

952
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,119
fucking bites like you you have three bites now, just.

953
00:41:11,159 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's all I try. I will try my

954
00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:16,320
best when we make films not to do that. It's

955
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,519
just like last week, talk about you. When certain characters

956
00:41:18,599 --> 00:41:20,159
are like, oh, Joe's did all this stuff, but I'm

957
00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:22,239
just gonna talk about like faith, and it's like, let'll

958
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,679
talk about how you're locked up in a room for

959
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,000
three months, like that might convince the character more than

960
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:28,159
like I thought he was a good person. It's like, no,

961
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,039
just say what happened. And the same thing, it's like,

962
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:32,320
wish I get right. It's hid intense situation. She might

963
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,239
think she's just lying and I did like bellows opening.

964
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,880
And again, I can't remember this specifically parts of the game.

965
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,679
I remember more of the back half like character stuff

966
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,440
coming because I was more recent in my mind. But

967
00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:45,719
when she's like, hey, I would die for you. I

968
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,840
was sacrificing myself, but this was not that. And then

969
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,760
just to explain, so it's like a fun backwards way

970
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,719
of like hey, if I were like I would do it,

971
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,519
but like don't, like in a nice way, don't flatter yourself.

972
00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:57,159
That's all what this was. It was like me like,

973
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,679
I'm saving you, but I knew what I could do

974
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,880
and uh uh and great moment too, when that's it's

975
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,480
like they're both on the ground and Ellie's watching these

976
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:07,199
clickers trying to get through. But then Dina is kind

977
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,639
of watching them both, like she's watching the clickers, but

978
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,960
she's also watching Ellie of like, fuck, at any moment

979
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:13,960
is she gonna turn on me? Like because again I

980
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,719
don't know what happens. And there's a bunch of new

981
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,760
clickers now, right, so maybe one's juicier than the next.

982
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,960
But uh, I guess Ali's gonna have to get some

983
00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:22,840
new ink or some new burn marks to hide that

984
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,840
up when she goes back to Jackson, because which you're

985
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,719
just your whole fucking body. Soon she's gonna be like

986
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:27,239
one big.

987
00:42:27,159 --> 00:42:29,639
Speaker 2: Star that's not gonna joining the Scars.

988
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:33,199
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, But and that whole sequence was good with

989
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,199
the train, like they said, that's right through the flares.

990
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,599
I remember that being like just high at tense and

991
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,159
great scene of you know they're there, they're quiet, which

992
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:45,519
I loved you. There's some ki like with the wolves

993
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:48,159
or some side character of like I thought this place

994
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,199
was a clicker free or something like that. I don't know,

995
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,360
I get it because you probably check all the time

996
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,840
if this world ever goes to shit in their zombies

997
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,079
or everything like that. I'm never just gonna assume, Oh yeah,

998
00:42:57,559 --> 00:43:00,800
this dark train station, I thought it was zombie free.

999
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,599
It's like who, Like, you're in a fucking world where

1000
00:43:03,639 --> 00:43:06,000
people are back from the dead, like anything could happen now,

1001
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:08,320
bro and the fact that who knows what happened because

1002
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,719
there must have been some hole or somewhere because great

1003
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,719
scene where they're hearing them and then Dean's like counting,

1004
00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:16,440
but then she gets to five and Isabelle again. Great

1005
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,880
scene where her faces turns to fear because she knows

1006
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,159
that point and oh there's too many to count. There's

1007
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:24,760
not just five, there's this and great scene of them

1008
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,320
all particular oh my god, they're going and that train

1009
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,159
sequence was again ripped. The video game very fun to

1010
00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:33,559
play through, but shot very well, just like you have,

1011
00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:36,880
you know, classic game stuff. I feel like Ellie would

1012
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,079
have been maybe out of some rounds there, you know,

1013
00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:41,960
she felt like she was popping off. Yeah exactly. She

1014
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:44,400
got some cheat codes, but great moment of like they're

1015
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,599
popping from the roof, they're popping from the windows from behind.

1016
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:50,320
It was a very well done all round, so great

1017
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,639
great great action secrets. I think they needed that because

1018
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:54,960
I feel like I'm fine fat but by fake some

1019
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:57,039
people if they didn't get like a big sequence here

1020
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,519
would have been like another slow week. It's like it's

1021
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,159
it's a tough thing because, like I think in the

1022
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,960
game it works, there's tons of action sequence, right, but

1023
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,039
there's so many times where it's just like gotta get

1024
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:09,519
from point any to point B and you take out

1025
00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:11,840
some clickers or wolves or whatever, and that gives you

1026
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,880
the action. But you can't just like every episode have

1027
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,119
like just mindless action for no reason. But then you

1028
00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:19,800
also can't have them just like talking. So I think

1029
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,840
this was obviously something from the games. But I think

1030
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,559
even the stuff with the scars and that whole little

1031
00:44:25,159 --> 00:44:28,039
like you said, the sealth sequence and everything, I do

1032
00:44:28,159 --> 00:44:30,480
think it's tough. I'm not trying to be the Internet here,

1033
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,360
you know, I understand people. Actually, let's say one more

1034
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,280
at breaking I'm not the Internet. Let's say an a break,

1035
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,920
I'll explain why I'm not the Internet. I'll be right

1036
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,400
back and we're back. So I'm not trying to be

1037
00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:43,559
the Internet or again, boy shame, I don't want to

1038
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:46,599
bring that up. It's just a situation of because Bella

1039
00:44:46,639 --> 00:44:50,280
has talked about this before where there's been complaints that

1040
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,119
she doesn't or they don't look like Ellie, because Ellie

1041
00:44:53,199 --> 00:44:55,119
in the second Games but not like Abby, but is

1042
00:44:55,199 --> 00:44:57,000
older and gets like a bit more physical and whatnot.

1043
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,000
She's like, I just can't do that, And maybe that's

1044
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,119
the way it is, right, I think in that way,

1045
00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:06,480
then they have to adjust certain things. So at one

1046
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:08,719
point she goes at the stairs, there's that soldier looking

1047
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,239
for and I don't think this guy's like a big dude,

1048
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,480
but compared to Bella, he looks like a fucking massive dude.

1049
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:17,639
Like Bella is a very tiny individual. So when the

1050
00:45:17,679 --> 00:45:20,639
scene starts with her like double legging him to the ground,

1051
00:45:20,639 --> 00:45:23,320
I'm like, in a scene where.

1052
00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: He's gonna get a rear naked rear naked choke though, right, Like, but.

1053
00:45:26,599 --> 00:45:30,599
Speaker 1: Do you think he's like I think a little person

1054
00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:34,039
with Olympic training. Sure, But like all Ellie's been doing

1055
00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:36,440
is the punching bag with Jesse, and they established last

1056
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,320
week that she's not one hundred percent right she was

1057
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:40,559
and she's like, oh my right side. So I just

1058
00:45:40,639 --> 00:45:43,519
wish it's different. If it's like it's a scuffle in

1059
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:45,880
a scene where this guy's gonna already die, why isn't

1060
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,440
she just like knife them slice his achilles tend. He's like,

1061
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,360
it takes me out for a second when she double

1062
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,239
legs them and then gets him in a choke and

1063
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,719
he's like, oh my god. It's just like Bella is

1064
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,800
a very small individual, so I just for me, and

1065
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,599
it'd be different if she's like, oh yeah, these fucking

1066
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:02,679
Bruce Wayne where she trained with the Lega Sava for

1067
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,199
five years. Like no, Like she's like, so that's all

1068
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:06,960
I mean, like that's an easy adjustment. Just have her

1069
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,920
stab on the leg and then he goes down Like

1070
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,159
it's just stuff that I like, do.

1071
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: Too, right, like yeah, go crazy stabing the clickers like

1072
00:46:13,519 --> 00:46:14,400
she yeh, do it there.

1073
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,199
Speaker 1: And I get if he survives because the think, okay,

1074
00:46:16,199 --> 00:46:18,119
I gotta keep them alive. But he then a few

1075
00:46:18,159 --> 00:46:20,599
seconds later just because it's next slip. So just some

1076
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,239
stuff that it took me out for a moment of

1077
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,920
just again, bell is very small and this guy Belle

1078
00:46:26,039 --> 00:46:28,199
was like up to like his waist and he was

1079
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,559
getting fucking thrown around like you know, he she was

1080
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:35,840
the great golly to his raven the undertakers. Yeah, I

1081
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,599
was wondering what Yeah, so, but like didn't ruin the

1082
00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:44,440
scene for me. Still create scene I got massive, I

1083
00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:46,039
have to look up with the phobia, so she look

1084
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:47,559
up right now. I just forget it. But fucking when

1085
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:51,280
they had to climb through the the small cement stuff.

1086
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:53,639
Speaker 2: Claustrophobic.

1087
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: No, it's not claustrophobic for me. It's it's the idea

1088
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,360
of I've said this before, because they claustrophobic is the

1089
00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:03,480
being small to scared, Uh, scared of small places. I'm

1090
00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:05,760
not that I'm scared of places where I couldn't be

1091
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:06,199
able to move.

1092
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,159
Speaker 2: I just thought it was one and the same, Like

1093
00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:11,079
you're just you're just stuck. You're just trapped, like if

1094
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:12,800
you're in an elevator there's one hundred people in there

1095
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,440
like that, because it's like you can't move around.

1096
00:47:14,639 --> 00:47:17,519
Speaker 1: But like I could be in like a fucking baseball

1097
00:47:17,559 --> 00:47:19,320
field over there, and if there was like thousands of

1098
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,119
people and I couldn't move, then I'd start to freak out.

1099
00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: Let me see if there's yeah start biting people.

1100
00:47:23,199 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, double, I saw this.

1101
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just starting off with the uh, well,

1102
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,440
I'll start off with where you were going with your

1103
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,760
your double leg take down there. I I love just

1104
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,480
the whole setting of them getting there, like they best

1105
00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:40,599
case scenario, Abbey is in this building, Like that's what

1106
00:47:40,639 --> 00:47:42,400
they're thinking when they get in there. Yes, they go

1107
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:45,960
and they're like, well, somebody climbed in there. They cut themselves, Okay,

1108
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,679
let's see they they haven't repaired that. I don't know

1109
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,679
how long ago that was. And then they find Buddied

1110
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,840
with like just borrow mirrored like sixteen plus arrows in him,

1111
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,639
like he he took a lot of arrows.

1112
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:58,079
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1113
00:47:58,599 --> 00:48:00,519
Speaker 2: And then they're just coming in and like finding like

1114
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,599
just the scars what they did to these people, and

1115
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,440
they're paying up the pieces and like they have no

1116
00:48:05,519 --> 00:48:07,599
idea that this just got called in or anything. So

1117
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,159
it again, as someone that hasn't played the game, it

1118
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,960
felt like this was like the start of a level.

1119
00:48:13,039 --> 00:48:15,559
Like you're just you're you're investigating. You're like, what's that?

1120
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:17,000
And then they have to hide and then they kick

1121
00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:19,599
in the room. They're like bad out find these people.

1122
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,480
Like that's just that's like the start of a level.

1123
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,440
Imagine very video gaming.

1124
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:27,039
Speaker 1: Yeah you find it. I did. Yeah, I'll put it

1125
00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:31,400
in the chat here. I don't know how well I

1126
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,400
can say the phobia part, but clar Kith rove.

1127
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 2: Clidophobia, but there's an R in there.

1128
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cliti, I can't go down on you tonight. I'm clinophobiac.

1129
00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:48,760
It's see for our listeners, it's c L E I,

1130
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,280
T H R O, and then phobia. And even then

1131
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,119
it says I'm not gonna click on the whole article,

1132
00:48:54,199 --> 00:48:57,920
but it says, uh uh the distinguishing from claustrophobia. For example,

1133
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,840
someone with claustrophobia might be anxious entering a small tent,

1134
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:04,480
while someone with cliff or robe with phobia might feel fine.

1135
00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:06,719
And that's where I am. So it is tech and

1136
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,039
technically the definition is the phobia is rooted in the

1137
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:13,639
Greek word meaning shut or close, described as specific fear

1138
00:49:13,679 --> 00:49:16,119
of being trapped or locked in. That's where for me,

1139
00:49:16,199 --> 00:49:18,199
and I've always said this before, hopefully my worst endmy

1140
00:49:18,199 --> 00:49:21,199
doesn't listen. My way to like dared live would be

1141
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,719
the absolute worst for me, because I if I can't move,

1142
00:49:24,199 --> 00:49:26,800
oh man. And when I saw that crack there, didn't want.

1143
00:49:26,639 --> 00:49:28,639
Speaker 2: That kill bill thing. You know you can get yourself

1144
00:49:28,679 --> 00:49:32,719
out there, Yeah, just just do that. Yeah, but yeah,

1145
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,800
I know, just starting with that sequence ou of those

1146
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,599
fantastic and honestly, like I feel like that was enough

1147
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,440
intensity or like suspense for the episode, let alone like

1148
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,440
the train sequence, that's just like adding like be infected

1149
00:49:44,519 --> 00:49:46,679
as a factor there. So I thought that was really

1150
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,679
really well done. Uh it just felt like, man, how

1151
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,400
the fuck are they going to get out of the situation,

1152
00:49:51,559 --> 00:49:54,920
especially when Ellie kind of gets out of there. But

1153
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,360
then Dina is just like underneath the desk, Like there's

1154
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,639
so many wolves in that in that sequel with M

1155
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,000
six Deans or shoot to kill, like that's their orders.

1156
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,599
They're not gonna hear them out or anything.

1157
00:50:03,679 --> 00:50:05,679
Speaker 1: So oh yeah, especially in this and be like, oh,

1158
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,559
we didn't do this, which you would assume they didn't

1159
00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:08,960
do this right, but they could just think they're with

1160
00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:12,159
the scars or whatever, like I I guess people do,

1161
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,880
but I just feel like you can't take chances of

1162
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,639
that situation. You can't, you know.

1163
00:50:16,639 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I I thought that was all really good

1164
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,400
at just building up the intensity. And then yeah, when

1165
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,960
when they get into that sequence, I thought she was

1166
00:50:23,079 --> 00:50:26,239
gonna like knife them like right away, like like kind

1167
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,360
of what we were talking about.

1168
00:50:27,199 --> 00:50:31,599
Speaker 1: Just because terrible spot though too, like you tell it's gonna.

1169
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: Go though, like your your options are so limited, and

1170
00:50:33,519 --> 00:50:35,400
that one, Oh, but I just feel like with some.

1171
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,679
Speaker 1: Of my kids hide like she just sides against this

1172
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,480
wall that's like flat and he doesn't see her. Of course,

1173
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:42,719
Terrible Room. Terrible Job was like, yeah, he just like

1174
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,639
goes in the room and just like and it's fine

1175
00:50:44,639 --> 00:50:46,159
because like if but he goes room just like kind

1176
00:50:46,159 --> 00:50:48,400
of goes diagonal one way or not like to look

1177
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,960
like come on, like look around at a little bit.

1178
00:50:51,079 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 2: He deserved to get ambushed and that's hed. But I

1179
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,000
don't know, I was a little bit okay just because

1180
00:50:56,039 --> 00:50:58,360
she caught him by surprise, went in and I think

1181
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,480
I would have wanted her to kind of fail like

1182
00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:03,239
a little bit like she's going for it, just because

1183
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,239
I saw her in this season, like episode one, right

1184
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,960
when she's boxing or fighting that one dude and like

1185
00:51:09,079 --> 00:51:10,800
he's been told to hold his punches and like kind

1186
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,119
of go easy on her. So I would have liked

1187
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:15,679
it if like I don't know, she isn't a trained

1188
00:51:15,679 --> 00:51:17,760
assassin at this point, so it kind of doesn't go well.

1189
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,639
Maybe she gets elbowed in the nose or something and

1190
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,239
then she like really has to shoot him in the sequence.

1191
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:28,000
Luckily Dina comes, of course, but I don't know I'm

1192
00:51:28,039 --> 00:51:31,719
just hyper detailing that one moment. But from that point

1193
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,400
when we get into the train sequence, all of that

1194
00:51:34,639 --> 00:51:37,199
was was super super juicy. When when the zombies are

1195
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,360
are flooding in or infected, I don't even know if

1196
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,840
we call them zombies in this world, but the clickers

1197
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,039
and such, they they they come in fuck up all

1198
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:49,119
these wolves and then uh oh, that's what it was

1199
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:51,639
when they go into the train. That's where I'm like, man,

1200
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,079
this is so like, I know, you have nowhere else

1201
00:51:55,159 --> 00:51:58,280
to go, but like fuck, when you're just in this

1202
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,519
train with a bunch of corpses all around you and

1203
00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:02,840
the the infector just breaking through the windows like you

1204
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:07,119
were so fucked in that situation. Hopefully there's a way out.

1205
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,199
It might just be like completely caved in on the

1206
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,239
one side, like just so boxed in.

1207
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: So I i' risky move sweat. I would stay to

1208
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,159
the open, you know, like I know, you can't run

1209
00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:18,039
on the top of the train.

1210
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: I thought would be like a good because that's what

1211
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,840
they ended up doing. Anyways, they went into the train

1212
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,320
and then out of the train. I mean it led

1213
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,960
to just some great some some great uh TV watching

1214
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:31,320
for sure, but uh yeah, that was intense, and man,

1215
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,400
I will say as someone that hasn't played the game,

1216
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:36,320
like I honestly thought Dina was done in this sequence,

1217
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:37,920
like when she was getting stuck on the on the

1218
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,079
gate and like not able to go through just because

1219
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:42,480
like Ellie gets through and then she's kind of like

1220
00:52:43,159 --> 00:52:44,920
focusing on like the next step to get out, and

1221
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,320
Dina is like still struggling. I was like, man, like,

1222
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,480
do not kill Dina right here? Kidding me? Me just

1223
00:52:49,519 --> 00:52:52,280
lost joel uh And then yeah, Ellie pulls a quick

1224
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,760
one and must have fucking hurt too, Like I know

1225
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,280
she's not infected, but just someone like just chopping on

1226
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,840
your arm like you're just a cheeseburger. Like, ugh, that

1227
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:05,440
was pretty vicious, and I think Bella really sold the

1228
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,239
the pain and agony of what that would feel like

1229
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,320
just her her reaction face really got me good. But

1230
00:53:11,559 --> 00:53:13,599
uh yeah, I know, like I think both of those

1231
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,559
other than like again like the splitting hairs on the takedown,

1232
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,199
just because Bella is a very and like all individual

1233
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,800
in comparison to the six foot five, big fucking man.

1234
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,519
Speaker 1: That's a good word phrase use putting hairs. I'm not

1235
00:53:26,639 --> 00:53:28,480
at the end of season gonna give it like, well,

1236
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,960
I would have given it a ten, but that devil,

1237
00:53:31,039 --> 00:53:32,639
Like No, it was just something the moment where it's like,

1238
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,599
how are you gonna do this? And she just fucking

1239
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,559
perk angled them. I was like, oh, okay, and maybe

1240
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:41,320
she's got some perks I don't know. Put the mouth

1241
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,360
guard in before when he comes into the room, just

1242
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,480
doubling all the take the clickers down now choking them out.

1243
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,639
Speaker 2: I mean said that would be like, if you're this guy,

1244
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,039
you're looking for scars, maybe infected, you can come around

1245
00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:54,360
the corner you see Kurt Angle wearing his leotard thrown

1246
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,599
in the mouthguard, like I would be even more.

1247
00:53:56,639 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: Olympic metals and everything, just ready to go.

1248
00:54:01,679 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: What was I gonna say? Oh, that's what I was

1249
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,119
gonna say, is uh? In that moment, I honestly thought, well,

1250
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,800
one thing it was it was weird for her to

1251
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,440
be able to get this takedown on him, But I

1252
00:54:09,519 --> 00:54:11,880
thought she was gonna go like really extreme, just because

1253
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,239
it's kind of been shown a couple of times where

1254
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,000
like when Ellie gets angry, like she fucking goes for it,

1255
00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:20,760
like episode one when she's like almost breaking that guy's

1256
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,360
arm and he's like tapping out and she's just not

1257
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,960
doing it. Like I feel like we're you know, I'm

1258
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,840
probably gonna be wrong for people to play the games

1259
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,719
and whatnot. This is someone that doesn't know. But I

1260
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,079
feel like where you get to a point where like

1261
00:54:32,159 --> 00:54:36,320
she is extremely extreme, like like probably too far. Well,

1262
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:36,760
I'm not.

1263
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: Trying to foreshadow anything, but at the same point, it's

1264
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,960
like we haven't talked about this as the last point

1265
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,719
that we talk about this episode, where so Diana, you know,

1266
00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:47,280
did you know she's pregnant? Did you have an idea?

1267
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 2: I had no idea until it was revealed, so it

1268
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:50,440
was good reveal.

1269
00:54:50,599 --> 00:54:53,079
Speaker 1: Okay, so but I we'll talk more about that. But

1270
00:54:53,159 --> 00:54:55,039
you get to point this end of this episode. They

1271
00:54:55,119 --> 00:54:57,519
literally looked this building. There's gun fire all around. They

1272
00:54:57,559 --> 00:55:00,159
went through, everything went through and he's like, well, don't

1273
00:55:00,159 --> 00:55:02,159
know if you should because things have changed, and Deana's like, yeah,

1274
00:55:02,199 --> 00:55:04,679
well I'm good to go. It's like I understand, like

1275
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,760
already you see the act of like aggression or revenge,

1276
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,880
vengeance wherever we want to say taking over be cause

1277
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,400
you feel like at that point it has changed and

1278
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:14,960
they just talked about this whole life. They could have

1279
00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:17,360
together as I'm gonna be a dad and you know,

1280
00:55:17,559 --> 00:55:19,320
Deane's like, oh, all everyone was to be with you.

1281
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,159
I'm happy we finally talked about this stuf about you

1282
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,320
and being a kid or you with a kid, and

1283
00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:26,000
she asked, Elliot, is that something you'd want? She go

1284
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,480
some with you. So it's like everything's kind of obviously

1285
00:55:28,519 --> 00:55:31,519
not perfect in this world, but it's like everything's much

1286
00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:33,639
happier than it could be. But then it's like yeah,

1287
00:55:33,679 --> 00:55:36,079
but uh, let's go fucking kill these people. It's kind

1288
00:55:36,119 --> 00:55:38,360
of like that should be the sign like no, like

1289
00:55:38,639 --> 00:55:40,480
that should be the realization where we go, you know what,

1290
00:55:40,519 --> 00:55:43,599
We've gone so close, like that train right there, being

1291
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,920
pregnant now admitting your love to one another and then

1292
00:55:48,039 --> 00:55:50,199
seeing what's out there. It's like that should be the

1293
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,320
moment where you go, Okay, we should turn around. There

1294
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,679
should have better things. But they both don't. It's like, well,

1295
00:55:55,039 --> 00:55:57,760
like if you you know, we just talked about you.

1296
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,760
It's like usually there's a reckoning for characters that make

1297
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,840
these choices, right, It's just like it's just bad ship

1298
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,239
is a foot where that's a clear sign of like

1299
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,679
turn back, now go Because she's even telling Dina like, oh,

1300
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,760
I don't know if you should go, but it's like, yeah,

1301
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,039
but Dina's it's not like they haven't kissed her, made

1302
00:56:15,079 --> 00:56:18,199
love at this point, like they're you know, they seem

1303
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,800
like they're, you know, locked way to go being a relationships.

1304
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,360
So she wants to be with you now. So it's like,

1305
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:23,800
maybe you should both get out of here. But no,

1306
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,840
you know, you haven't learned from that. You haven't learned

1307
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,559
from the Joel situation, right, It's too too much going

1308
00:56:29,639 --> 00:56:31,400
on there. So and I think to your point of

1309
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:32,840
that guy, I feel like if they had some time,

1310
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,559
she would have fucking had her way at that guy.

1311
00:56:34,639 --> 00:56:36,719
They were in a rush, so I think anytime Ellie

1312
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,800
is like the guard guy when he said, oh she

1313
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,480
killed him quickly, Oh yeah, have her way with it,

1314
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:47,719
I'm like, you know, like that guy, I'm like, if

1315
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,639
they knew they were in the clear, smash his face

1316
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,760
and I'm sure, yeah, exactly, they'd be using them for

1317
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:55,400
a dinner. But uh uh, yeah, they go to Obviously

1318
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,800
the last episode she had thrown up, and I was

1319
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,800
wondering when we're gonna get that revealed. But yes, I

1320
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,840
have the game. Same thing as Jesse. I'd asked em

1321
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,320
and she said that because I swear last week they

1322
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,360
said something that made it sound like her she was

1323
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,400
with Jesse again. But I was like, no, I think

1324
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,039
they just said that they slept together again. So I

1325
00:57:12,119 --> 00:57:14,159
was like, oh, okay, because, like I said in the game,

1326
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,280
Ellie and Dina were a couple at this point, she

1327
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,239
had still slewt with Jesse. But it's like a very

1328
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,519
kind of like it's not a prople. But even then

1329
00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:24,639
Ellie's which I liked in the game, and I like, here,

1330
00:57:24,639 --> 00:57:26,639
it's not like a oh my god, what we're gonna do.

1331
00:57:26,639 --> 00:57:29,760
It's not this super dramatic situation, right because like they're

1332
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,000
both it's kind of perfect because Jesse's a good guy.

1333
00:57:32,039 --> 00:57:35,280
They're both friends with him. Jesse already knows that Dina

1334
00:57:35,639 --> 00:57:38,440
is like at least attracted to Ellie. Right, And in

1335
00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:40,199
this world where Dena' is like, oh, I always want

1336
00:57:40,239 --> 00:57:42,920
to have kids with you, well you'd still you know,

1337
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,760
there's no other I don't think they have any working

1338
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,519
hospitals where someone can just go in a room with

1339
00:57:47,559 --> 00:57:49,280
the cup, right. So it's like if anyone's gonna be

1340
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,519
the guy that would have one of them, pregnant should

1341
00:57:51,519 --> 00:57:53,800
be Jesse. So I liked that they've carried that over

1342
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,000
the game. That's not this dramatic thing of like oh

1343
00:57:56,079 --> 00:57:58,559
my god. And then even the way Dina was reacting,

1344
00:57:58,599 --> 00:58:01,320
it's like, okay, then clearly they maybe just slept together.

1345
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:02,960
It wasn't like I don't know, I'm gonna tell Jesse.

1346
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,280
It's like, oh yeah, he's a good guy, and like

1347
00:58:04,519 --> 00:58:07,239
it was very nonchalant. Even then, like when they slept together,

1348
00:58:07,239 --> 00:58:09,800
I was like, oh, I don't want drama of like

1349
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:11,599
how do you cheat on me?

1350
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:12,119
Speaker 2: Jesse?

1351
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm happy that it's like, oh no, like

1352
00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:16,280
we'll figure it out. And even I was like, oh yeah,

1353
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:17,639
it's gonna be the three of us. It's like okay,

1354
00:58:17,719 --> 00:58:19,800
that's very much like the games were, Okay, cool, They're

1355
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,000
just gonna figure it out together because I don't want that.

1356
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,280
We've got enough drama show. I don't need the like

1357
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,320
who's baby, who's gonna raise It's like no, like they're

1358
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,760
all friends figured out. So I like that conversation reveal

1359
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:31,000
a lot.

1360
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean just rewatching it, like it just

1361
00:58:35,079 --> 00:58:38,000
in my mind, I feel like it. I was sold

1362
00:58:38,039 --> 00:58:39,840
on it pretty easily, just just because I like, I

1363
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,159
just watch episode one this morning, so and like when

1364
00:58:42,159 --> 00:58:45,039
they're talking about uh Dina and Jesse, it seems like

1365
00:58:45,079 --> 00:58:48,920
they're really freshly broken up, like pretty much like within

1366
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,880
the last two weeks, Like Max I would say, I

1367
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:54,719
can't remember if they say a specific day, but that's

1368
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,920
just the vibe of it. So yeah, it I totally

1369
00:58:58,039 --> 00:59:02,039
believe that, like she would have been pregnant from that instance,

1370
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:04,559
because like she would have just been late on that

1371
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:06,840
term of her Well.

1372
00:59:06,679 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: No, they got together again because remember they did a

1373
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:14,199
three month jump between Joel and that. Oh, so they

1374
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,960
just had some cash. That's why I had to ask Emily,

1375
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,880
because if they didn't do the jump, I was like, okay,

1376
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,840
that makes sense, because I'm pretty sure I could be wrong.

1377
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,000
People correct me. I'm pretty sure in the game that's

1378
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,760
how it happens. Where they were together, they break up

1379
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,639
because they kind of figure out, like you know, like

1380
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,639
Jesse even the show is like he reads the writing

1381
00:59:32,679 --> 00:59:34,360
on the wall, like Okay, she's clear in the alley.

1382
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,760
Their situation is not like a big deal, right, And

1383
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,519
that's where Okay, it's the unfortunate thing of you know,

1384
00:59:39,679 --> 00:59:42,920
I realize she likes this chick, go do whatever, and

1385
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,800
it's like, oh fuck, I'm pregnant. And like I said,

1386
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,440
it's not dramatic, just like, oh the timing of it

1387
00:59:46,519 --> 00:59:50,079
right where this definitely was. They've just you know whatever,

1388
00:59:50,159 --> 00:59:53,639
had something casual going on and whatever. There's not many

1389
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,840
especially after the last attack of Jackson. You're losing candidates

1390
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,000
as you know, time goes on, there's not many people.

1391
00:59:59,239 --> 01:00:01,639
You know. That's I feel like I've got sexual chemistry

1392
01:00:01,679 --> 01:00:03,960
with somebody. And they even mentioned that show they've kind

1393
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,119
of been on and off again multiple times. So yeah,

1394
01:00:06,199 --> 01:00:08,400
the three month jump just I guess they had a

1395
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,039
one nighter and they you know, either didn't use protection

1396
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,960
or Jesse didn't have the pole game on point.

1397
01:00:15,079 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't think that's your concern in this world. Honestly,

1398
01:00:20,599 --> 01:00:23,119
I feel like you don't want to repopulate. I feel

1399
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:24,480
like you kind of want to. I guess they do

1400
01:00:24,559 --> 01:00:26,760
talk about the population of the town being maxed out,

1401
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,760
but after that battle they probably took some everybody.

1402
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't they weren't even this fuck. It wasn't

1403
01:00:32,679 --> 01:00:34,280
even a one nighter. It's again, they all got to

1404
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,280
sign like go find somebody. But it's like the quiet

1405
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,480
place thing, right, Like obviously they have Jackson, but it's

1406
01:00:39,519 --> 01:00:42,199
like you do want to repopulate. But at the same time,

1407
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,119
it's like being pregnant in this world has to be

1408
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,119
the worst thing, right because I think about think about

1409
01:00:47,159 --> 01:00:49,239
like the next town attack, and you're pregnant and you're

1410
01:00:49,239 --> 01:00:52,360
having to move while you have like a possibly anywhere

1411
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,519
from five to ten things you like. So that's where

1412
01:00:54,559 --> 01:00:56,760
it's like you do, but like it's also the worst.

1413
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,239
It's the best case and worst case to be so

1414
01:00:59,679 --> 01:01:00,480
but and.

1415
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:03,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, just raising a child and that pretty depressed.

1416
01:01:04,239 --> 01:01:07,159
Speaker 1: But yeah, she's pregnant. You have to see how that

1417
01:01:07,239 --> 01:01:08,159
goes on and whatnot.

1418
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I thought it's a really interesting factor.

1419
01:01:11,639 --> 01:01:16,199
I love the scene when she tells Ellie. Uh just yeah,

1420
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,000
it's I just feel like it's such a cliche of like,

1421
01:01:19,079 --> 01:01:20,559
oh my god, how are we going to tell him

1422
01:01:20,679 --> 01:01:22,599
or something like that, but like they didn't do that

1423
01:01:22,679 --> 01:01:24,719
at all, and as you've kind of already laid out,

1424
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,400
it just it fits for what's going on in this

1425
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,960
world and what we've been shown with these characters, including Jesse.

1426
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,840
I just don't know. I just liked Bella, like she's

1427
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,719
I just feel like she sold the or sorry, they

1428
01:01:37,239 --> 01:01:41,199
sold that sequence really well of just like I'm gonna

1429
01:01:41,199 --> 01:01:43,360
be a parent, You're gonna parents, like oh, Jesse too,

1430
01:01:43,559 --> 01:01:48,320
like the three of us. Yeah, It's just it just

1431
01:01:48,519 --> 01:01:52,239
seemed very natural, and I'm very intrigued on how this

1432
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:56,400
is gonna be just this factor going forwardast the season

1433
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:56,719
and show.

1434
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,599
Speaker 1: I just have to accept it because other than like

1435
01:01:58,679 --> 01:02:02,320
some very unsafe ways, like abortion is not on the

1436
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,440
table in this world. I matched like, obviously if you

1437
01:02:04,519 --> 01:02:06,039
find that pharma, seeing someone happens to have like a

1438
01:02:06,079 --> 01:02:09,280
morning afterpill, great, but it's like, I'm assuming those aren't,

1439
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,679
like maybe there's someone in training for that, like, oh,

1440
01:02:12,719 --> 01:02:14,480
I'll give you these shoes if you want something these pills,

1441
01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:16,480
Like I'm sure there is, but you remember, there's like

1442
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,280
no pharmaceutical companies, so I feel like they're expired and

1443
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,519
they're you know, probably few and far in between.

1444
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, except for maybe Abby's dad was a big

1445
01:02:27,599 --> 01:02:31,360
abortion doctor, and then you know, we can't use that

1446
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:31,920
guy anymore.

1447
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:37,679
Speaker 1: I'm supposific. I specialized in life saving cures and abortions.

1448
01:02:38,119 --> 01:02:40,119
I know that seems weird because one save life one

1449
01:02:40,199 --> 01:02:43,000
second way, but trust me, I'm a doctor, all right.

1450
01:02:43,039 --> 01:02:44,239
Speaker 2: On undred percent success. Right.

1451
01:02:44,519 --> 01:02:47,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some poor person that was all next day

1452
01:02:47,159 --> 01:02:52,000
after elegant an abortion, and Joel's fucking just killing that

1453
01:02:52,159 --> 01:02:54,000
Child's just pissed up the whole time. I was supposed

1454
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,079
to be aborted, and I.

1455
01:02:56,119 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 2: Have to live in this fucking world.

1456
01:02:58,239 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to be here. Okay, go a heaven.

1457
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,559
All right, let's let's move on. I'm pro choice, by

1458
01:03:04,599 --> 01:03:04,960
the way.

1459
01:03:05,719 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 2: So.

1460
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: We'll be back next week. I'm not sure what's gonna

1461
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,800
happen because I feel like next week could be a

1462
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:17,440
prime spot for that one off, Like like if we're

1463
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,960
getting a flashback episode, I just don't feel like it'd

1464
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,920
be the penultimate episode. I feel like that'd be kind

1465
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,519
of weird. So I feel like next week could be

1466
01:03:23,639 --> 01:03:26,920
a a flashback episode and then also makes sense of

1467
01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:29,360
Joel's in that episode. We've had two weeks without Pedro,

1468
01:03:29,519 --> 01:03:30,679
so it kind of makes you miss and the like,

1469
01:03:30,719 --> 01:03:31,519
oh look it's Pedro.

1470
01:03:33,079 --> 01:03:33,639
Speaker 2: We haven't seen here.

1471
01:03:34,159 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: Yeah that's tough, But like I said, that's a that's

1472
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,639
a tough thing with them saying this. This season is

1473
01:03:37,639 --> 01:03:39,920
split up into at least two maybe three seasons, right,

1474
01:03:40,039 --> 01:03:43,039
So I'm not. I don't think you will never see Abby,

1475
01:03:43,079 --> 01:03:44,559
but I could see a situation where you only see

1476
01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:46,719
Abby for maybe like one scene, for the rest of

1477
01:03:46,719 --> 01:03:47,679
the season, like they could.

1478
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,239
Speaker 2: She could just be go on, you know, I just

1479
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:54,119
picture the the Infinity War scene. You took everything from me.

1480
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:55,960
I don't even know who you are. She just doesn't

1481
01:03:55,960 --> 01:04:00,719
even remember Ellie, with which she finally means her, it's been.

1482
01:04:00,719 --> 01:04:03,199
Speaker 1: It's been three months. I'm on other things. I'm dealing

1483
01:04:03,199 --> 01:04:04,079
with the scars now.

1484
01:04:04,039 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 2: But she's caught the fucking the joker.

1485
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: I kill you. I don't know you. All right, we'll

1486
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,639
be back next week and it won't be warm. If

1487
01:04:20,679 --> 01:04:22,960
I can hit the end stream, there we go, My god,