Speaker 1: This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is Spoiled Me
covering Dungeon Crawler Carl book seven, this Inevitable Ruin chapters
forty one through forty six. In these chapters, brauh.
Speaker 2: What the fuck was that with Juice Box? Though?
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of this. We got
a lot of plates spinning.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much I'm supposed to be keeping track,
but I'll tell you what I'm doing my best, and
I feel like I'm not managing it. Welcome to spoil Me.
Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you
very much to Michael for commissioning this episode. I am
going to point something out here that I don't know
how I like quite missed it. But so last episode
I didn't get to cover chapter thirty nine, so I
am like, okay, I'll full that into the next episode. However,
the spreadsheet skips chapter forty entirely, so it's just like
up to chapter thirty nine and then from forty one
to forty six. This is actually going to be forty
through forty six. Plus I have to cover thirty nine
that I missed last time, so I may not actually
get to finish this this episode either, just giving you
guys a fair warning. Michael, I know that you have
like tried many times to get this spreadsheet in uh
like spread out a little bit more upun intended, and
it was probably just because that happens with spreadsheets. You
start seeing so many numbers that they stop meaning anything
to you and just don't make any sense anymore. So
I have been there as somebody who has to make
the like chapter breakdowns four books I'm covering with Rashaan,
and I feel like I never.
Speaker 2: Get it right.
Speaker 1: I will redo it and redo it and it just
doesn't matter, and I will get dates wrong or I'll
get chapters wrong or whatever. So please don't take it
too hard. I understand. That's all I'm saying. Michael says,
damn it, I just suck at this lol, Sarahim says.
The only solution talk faster, Sarahim. I'll tell you about
sometimes when I'm editing, I am just like, bitch, can
you just finish your sentence? Like I take such long pause,
And you know it's funny. In comparison to a lot
of podcasters, I actually do not pause that much. But
because I don't do heavy editing to close up those
pauses in post, it's a lot more noticeable. But like
when I'm recording with Rashaan or Miles, they both take
hell along pauses, and there are times where the pauses
are so short or so long that I like note
them down because I'm like, Okay, I absolutely must edit
that out or people are going to think that we
got disconnected or that their podcast paused or something. But Michael,
I've suggested to Natasha before to talk at one point
five speed, since that's what I normally listen to podcasts
app but Nodus, you know what, you know what you
need to do one time, Guys, I don't actually want
to do this during an official show because people are
paying me, so I don't want to fuck them by
doing this, and maybe it doesn't work out. But I'm
going to tell you something. I got drunk several months
ago for the first time in a while, and one
of my friends that was with me was like, I
cannot believe how much faster you talk once you're drunk
and you're like really coherent, you put sentences together, and
you're just talking at like twice the speed you normally do.
It's really I always associate getting drunk with slurred, slowed
down speech, and it's like you're on cocaine or something.
So I kind of low key want to try recording
alone while like at that good spot where I've had
like two martinis, like almost two, right before it starts
to get dicey, you know, and see, does that like
actually make for a good show. It's not something I
would do every time I record, obviously, because then I
would just have a problem. But I am curious about
it as an experiment. Jeff says in my podcast, I've
instituted a no longer than six seconds of dead air rule,
and it's quite handy. It's remarkable how even a mediocre
joke can ease the tension after a long break. I
like that idea, and I also I had a button
for a while that made an air horn sound. Now,
problem was there was no way to adjust the volume,
so it was quite loud on my and I stop
using it because it was bothering people, which I get.
But I would love to have that kind of sound
and board that somebody can hear, so that when there
is too long a pause, I can just press a
button and there be like a weird you know, maybe
the Jeopardy sound or cricket sound, or you know, like
the sound effect of is it Bob Barker who's like, well,
we're waiting, you know, something like that. I know it
would be hella rude in certain situations, so I would
dispense this with care. But it's an idea. It's just
an idea anyway, So let's get started, since I just
decided to spend the first few minutes of precious time
talking about how I should talk faster.
Speaker 2: Ha ha. Welcome to Unspoiled.
Speaker 1: So thirty nine is mostly Carl and Range could like
being very confrontational about the fact that he broke the
AI from its containment and Donut didn't know this. It's
interesting to me how little Donut actually asks Carl about this,
which I don't know if it's sort of an effect
of there's simply no time, or if it's like I
don't need to know because I trust you, or if
it's I don't want to know because there's clearly too
much happening there and I can't handle it. There's all sorts,
you know, of reasons why this would or wouldn't be addressed,
So at this point orin it's just like, I really
wish that you guys would just keep it to yourselves
everything that happened here. And it's super funny because donuh
is literally in the midst of telling everybody what was
going on, so bro's too late. We get an update
on all the alliances, the Block, the Blood Sultan Lit,
the Madness, the Reavers, the Good Guy's Team, Retribution, and
the Princess Posse Unaffiliated, the Bone Clan, the Dream and
Donut says, I was expecting the Orc guys to break
up because of that whole we've been spying on you thing,
But what happened with the bald Dream guy and Carl
is like, I don't know. I feel like people are
making moves in a way though that suggests that they
all are aware the fail safe isn't going to work,
so obviously that news is already out there. And uh
then Donut spots Damascus Steele and wants to see him,
you know, because they're in the uh what do you
call it? Club?
Speaker 2: So she chases after him.
Speaker 1: He doesn't come by or say anything. And I don't
know if this is like a hint of something or
if it's just meant to be a reminder that we're
in this club. But it was an interesting moment because
it doesn't seem to pay off here, and I have
to assume it's something. She leaped from my lap and
went into the hallway. She returned to the room and
sat on my lap with a harrumph. I'm like, is
this an excuse for her to run out of sight?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 1: Like? Did she pull something while she was in the
hall and make this little moment as an excuse to
get away from everybody?
Speaker 2: Perhaps?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just I have to acknowledge it.
So then we get the back and forth between Donut
and Stalwart. And it is really something, guys. I mean,
it's kind of the way that you wish you could
talk to a lot of people. It's really.
Speaker 2: Donut.
Speaker 1: This is These are the moments where I just stand
you so very hard.
Speaker 2: So let's see.
Speaker 1: I'm afraid I've already taken your father's skin and turned
it into a powder room rug. It's quite waterproof, and
Mango sometimes missus his peapad when he has to go
potty in the safe room. Unfortunately, it's not very attractive,
such since it came without a head. Plus it's a
little large.
Speaker 2: For the restroom.
Speaker 1: I've already promised him the next one we gather will
be of a much smaller org. So please let me
know when you're planning on visiting. No notes, And then
it ends with.
Speaker 2: A line you guys.
Speaker 1: I literally like I was leaving the kitchen coming to
the living room. I just had my EarPods in for
like another minute, and I was planning to take them
out just as I was gonna sit on the couch
with my husband, and I am walking out and this
line hits and I just went back and my poor husband,
who was watching a TV show like jumped, and I'm
just like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 1: Uh, this is why I'll never be as good a
king as your father. He talked to how much of
a disappointment you were before he died, and he says
you are a liar, And she says, you know that's
the one thing I'm not lying about, which I'm sure
makes it hurt even more because I bet you know
it's true too. You're a liar and a fool. If
we survive to the next phase, I will keep you
alive while I boil your fur off your skin. I'm sorry,
but you are much too poor to be talking to
me like.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, oh god, it hits just as well
the third time.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, y'all. I lost it.
Speaker 1: I really lost it, and I love her being later
like you know, I know that was kind of a
shitting line, but like, come on, and I was just like, yeah, no,
I know exactly what you were doing, Donut, and I
do not hold it against you one teeny tiny little bit,
and I am here for it.
Speaker 2: It just was.
Speaker 1: It was just so good anyway. So we then have
all of them being transported back or and doesn't even
really like say anything to any of this because he's
obviously messaging with a bunch of people as well. And
when they come back, they're talking to elf Boomer mister uh,
you know that guy, and they're talking about what could
have happened to cause that explosion, So you know, they
don't really know yet. But if those weeper tanks are
gonna blow like that, I don't want to use the
captured ones unless we have to, which we know isn't
actually the issue. But it's like I'm wondering if they
will ever find out. I'm really curious because we know
and we can admire the fuck out of and have
sympathy for Voltigue. And he does say something about how
probably nobody will ever know his name, and that may
be true, but it is devastating to find out how
completely unknown it might be what he just did. I
really hope that eventually, somehow word circles back around. So
let's see what's about the What about the list of
missing crawlers? It looks like we now have most of
the crawlers under the Posse banner. The Goat Guy remains unaffiliated,
and same with Lucy Amar. Other than that, the list
hasn't changed much. There's a crawler named Duborku whose whole
team seems to have been taken by the Madness. People
who know them say they're not answering messages, which likely
means that they are conscripted.
Speaker 2: Which sucks.
Speaker 1: Osvaldo that you were asking about seems to be writing
it out in the woods with a group of crawlers,
a large group, he says, And there are a few
who are still affiliated with the NPC team, which is
I suppose better than nothing, which I think is very interesting.
Wondering what that's about, like does the NPC team have
the conscript power? Is that something that they can do
to crawlers or so you know, this is we ideally
are going to have all the crawlers, but we all
know this isn't going to happen for a variety of reasons,
some of which we aren't even gonna know. And I
feel like we're in pretty decent shape actually, which is
what Carl says essentially. So chapter forty starts and Donut
is saying that the new wall is coming along nicely,
and we painted the castle pink fantastic. She asks what
did you do with King Rust's ring and a necklace?
And he says, don't worry. I can only wear one
ring of divine suffering at a time. I checked, which
like the of course he's going to check. Look, I
would also check, just you know, but I don't like it.
And also he says, and we don't need that necklace.
I thought the necklace wasn't allowed anymore. I said this
last time that I was kind of confused about that.
So I had assumed that maybe he still had the
abilities from it but didn't have it on or wasn't
able to utilize it. And then the way that Voltigue's
chapter describes how he was able to do what he did.
It's still being used, So I'm not sure what it
means that it was like, you know, is it just
for that one season that they made it against the rules.
That doesn't feel like it's significant. I mean, I don't know.
I just thought I found this confusing. So anyway, this
is when he opens his nineteen fourteen bucks and it's
the spell book that's like crying and running away from
him and it this spell is run Little Gunter.
Speaker 2: Run.
Speaker 1: This is a summoning spell. It will summon a small
hominid creature named Little Gunter. He will appear directly in
front of castor Once activated, Little Gunter will last twenty
seconds plus one second per man a point added above
the minimum. You must activate Little Gunter within thirty seconds,
otherwise he will dissipate. You may cast once every ten hours.
This spell summons a small, fat, childlike creature named Little Gunter.
He has a single point of health and will remain
in front of you until you cast a spell, use
a scale, or otherwise attack him. Attacking activates. This effect
will be stored until Gunter times out. Once activated, Gunster
will run away from you as fast as he can
toward your target, will trigger once he reaches the target
or times out. If you don't designate a target, he'll
run in a random direction. So this is incredibly useful.
And the first thing I thought of is what I
almost said, Marshall, my husband's name. Why is the first
thing also that Carl thinks of, which is his daughter's
kiss because that has been a problem. It's an extremely
powerful spell that he can never use when he's got
allies around him, which sucks. So this could be extremely
fucking clutch. I think, I do want to I do
want to say I kind of anticipate, like this is
fucked up, because the whole point of this is just basically,
you used a child soldier, right. It's the AI just
kind of throwing it in their face how ruthless they
were being in this is a war crime in YadA YadA.
So what I am anticipating here is that Guncher is
going to be summoned and he is going to be
a genuinely like adorable, little roly poly child who it's
going to feel really fucked up and shitty that they
have to like attack him and then send him toward
a deadly target, and so every time we use him,
which we will, I don't suggest at all that this
is going to deter Carl, but I believe the AI
is going to set this up to be as uncomfortable
as possible. I'm really curious about, you know, seeing this happen.
So let's see, Katcha is here and she's going to
put a power on Carl using a tattoo, and I
am wondering because we don't actually specifically get what the
ability is. And Carl asks for a chain shaped like
a dragon, which I'll be honest, that's a big ask
as a design I don't even know what that looks like.
Like I'm trying to picture even what that means. And
if you are not a professional artist, I think that
shit could look completely impossible to understand if you just
don't know what you're doing, which there's no reason to
feel like Kacha is like an expert artist. I just
don't know if you showed me a picture of a
chain shaped like a dragon that I would be like,
oh yeah, unless it was quite large.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I'm just not a.
Speaker 1: Imaginative enough, but I fancy I'm an artist you know,
like I feel like I should be able to picture this.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: And let's see, she pulls out like Kanya has the
ink already mixed. So it could be that this is
from Lena, because she comes up in the conversation here.
She hasn't really talked to me since the end of
the last floor, not since I ate Lee June's eye.
And Kattia says, she's not mad at you, she's mad
at herself for not protecting her brother. She knows you
didn't do it on purpose. Is she doing okay?
Speaker 2: Did it hurt?
Speaker 1: She says, it didn't hurt at all. It's not permanent,
unlike what happened with her brother. So I think it's her,
But I don't know what the let's say, I'm trying
to find the bit here. We get some talk by
the way about Donuts TRR, which is just so insanely Ope,
holy shit. But we don't know what it is we're getting.
So let's see. If the blood is freely given, the
potion allows you to choose the speller skill. The tattoo itself, unfortunately,
is permanent. How big does it have to be? And
she says depends on the level since this is a thirteen,
it has to be pretty big. I have to use
almost all the ink or otherwise you won't get it
at full strength. But Lena won't lose the skill like
her brother. No, and her brother got walk on Air back,
but they had to buy a book, and I really
like Carl should pay for that book. I know it's
not Carl's fault what happened, but it's not their fault either.
I feel like, maybe give them some money toward that,
but I don't know, I don't know, you know. And
the eye he wasn't able to get back, obviously, so.
Speaker 2: He gets this tattoo.
Speaker 1: I love that she says specifically that she's glad Donut
isn't here, because she'd be very critical. And then immediately
Donut texts and is like, I need to see the
design before you do it so that I can improve
it by the way, which they ignore. I also just
want to mention guys, the Voodoo Book is still in play.
I've mentioned before that it feels like something that's not monitored,
and so my assumption ongoing is that this is a
way for everybody to communicate in a way that the
enemy can't see, unlike.
Speaker 2: In like the group and stuff. I'm hoping. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just like, there's got to be some way to
actually keep secret plans secret. So what we're seeing people
talk about openly sometimes is me kind of going like,
is this even the plan? I don't know if you
would say it out loud like this if it were,
you know, I don't know. So this is when they
get transported to do the Warlord Castle and our castle,
sorry Warlord Council. And as they are transported, everybody else
is gearing up to do something called Operation Snake Pit, which,
as we find out later, does not work out because
Prepotente was in the mix and he is super mad
that they stepped on his whole plan. And all I
have to say to that Prepotente, you are a team player,
and maybe if you had agreed to work with us,
they wouldn't have done this. That's called communication. But you
want to keep everything to your fucking self. And guess what,
there are extreme drawbacks when there is a war involving
tens of thousands of people. They wouldn't have wanted to
fuck you if they knew what you were doing. You
are just so stubborn that you don't want to involve
anybody else in your plans, and that's your fucking problem.
So I don't really want to hear you fucking crying
about it, because you were offered a chance to be
on the team with them, and you could still have
gone and done your own thing if you had explained
to them how it was all going to work, and
you decided that you weren't going to until you did
your thing and felt ready, then you would join up
with them. I mean, it's a pretty much direct consequence.
So I just don't know that I think that you
will have learned zero lessons from this based on your attitude,
But I am wondering if, like, eventually, once you have
settled down, you will begin to understand. Probably not, probably not,
but I'm hopeful anyway. So he gets the tattoo on,
we don't still find out what the power is, and
Doughnut does not approve and says that it's crooked, even
though it's like expert level, which is the second highest.
And I'm really wondering what the highest is named, because
expert level, you'd think would be the number one. I'm
kind of wondering if it's something silly like Instagram famous
or something, because you know, like there are a lot
of tattoo artists who are just all over the socials
and maybe that's the thing I don't know. So they
wind up being in the room with Ferdinand, who is
hungering down in that bar, and when he gets transported
in clearly was like in the middle of being handed
as ass by somebody he insulted somehow, and they're all
getting checked over and it's the nole security again, one
of whom Donut actually knows his name, And I feel
like it was mentioned at some point. I'm so sorry, guys,
because it's like I don't think to keep track of
things in the moment the way that I should. But
somebody mentioned in a comment I think on Patreon about
how Matt Dinneman explained Donuts like working with the valte
by getting the worms in her mouth from a knoll.
So I'm thinking that like one of these guys she
worked with, and I am kind of like, is one
of this these new working with her on yet another
thing that occurred when she ran into the hallway after Damascus?
Speaker 2: Is that part?
Speaker 1: Because like, look, I give Donut credit and believe a
lot of the time that she is working on her
own shit. So part of me is like, maybe that's
why she doesn't ask Carl about some things, is because
she's well aware she's keeping her own shit from him
and she.
Speaker 2: Doesn't want to throw stones.
Speaker 1: And I just think that there's a good possibility here
that there's like still something going on with one of
these guys. So anyway, this is when Zev appears and
she we have the news from Zev about how actually
Princess Formidable's guys did try to flip the failsafe, which
is like, I mean, honorable, I guess would be because
she knows that they she anticipated they would. I don't
even know what to say about it. I mean a
part of me is like impressed, and another part of
me is like nice guys, you know. But anyway, it
doesn't seem to have done anything until everybody realizes that
there is a system called Errol that has gone completely dark.
And the way that Zeb explains it is we have
literally seen systems go nova before and the tunnel still worked.
It's never just turned off. So we don't know what
to make of it. You know, we're going to find
a way to get there and like try and rescue them,
but we have no idea really what's going on. And Carl,
because she says something about that Errol is the location
of the crawl from the previous season, and let's see,
I'm trying to find this bit here. It was a
Battle Royale style. The planet was free of citizens, but
there are tens of thousands of people still in the
Solar System, mostly those on mining ships and mineral reclamation
finishing the cleanup. Apparently the AI had stopped communicating a
few weeks back, and there was a team on the
surface investigating why. That's all I really know. So that's interesting.
It's the most recent other crawl and I feel like
that's definitely like significant. And Carl rightfully zeros in on,
like what do you mean all of the citizens were gone?
Speaker 2: Like what about the.
Speaker 1: People who didn't participate in the crawl? And she's like,
that was a squim season. They do things a little differently.
There were some survivors, but they were relocated, which that
makes it sound like basically everybody had to play, or
everybody who didn't play was murdered. I don't know, but
it sounds pretty fucking grim, And a part of me
is like, could it be a good thing that the
tunnel's cut off. What I keep thinking about is that
everybody who's there doing cleanup are probably a bunch of
other fucking schmos who don't want to be here and
are being exploited somehow. And I don't feel like they
deserve for a bad thing to happen to them. But
I don't know how much the squims like finances are
still tied up over there. Does that screw them somehow?
You know?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just there's a lot of potentiallylications here and we
don't really have much information. And she says the AI
had still been working and just stopped talking, and nobody
knew that until today. I don't actually know the details.
But they say it'll be at least three cycles before
we know if the star is still there. It's two
point nine light cycles away. Even the old borrent gate
system won't work with the node gone. And yeah, it's
just the story here that I'm most frustrated by is that, like,
once we go back into the dungeon, I don't know
what kind of updates we're gonna get about this, or
what SEV is going to be allowed to say, you know. So,
Chapter forty two begins with a warning about like, actually,
this is from Crawler Drachia, I think the Nagar are
actually the ones to be careful of on this floor,
and that people underestimate them and I think you need
to be really careful with them, which is born out
in this section when he meets the sepsis whore who
is terrifying, terrifying in her like Riz. Basically, so we
enter the area, juice box is here, but she can't
actually physically be here because she is dungeon born. So
there's like some parameters around that that they cannot get around.
And there's also Chaco, who is the one who's going
to be hosting. This does not last very long. Chaco
gets punched in the face, and there is some suspicion
with Carl that was on purpose that like maybe we
had like Odette had been prevented from hosting, and she
created a situation somehow with Chaco's cooperation where she would
be subbed in. I would not put it past her,
although Choco agreeing to work with her after everything would
surprise me a little. There would have to be something
going on there, so and I love that Chaco calls
Ferdinand gravy Boat. Still, I always forget that gravy Boat
is his original name, and I really want to use
that name for something. I just got to keep it
in mind. Cascadia is also here, and is actually physically
here because Carl can feel the water coming off of her,
and she sees Carl and says, I just can't wait
to see how you make everything worse today, which is hilary.
She ain't wrong. So appears he's got a glittering golden crown,
which turns both Donut and Ferdinand into complete piles of
giggling slush. They cannot handle it. It's genuinely really funny.
Then we have the Warlord of the Reavers Fang. He
appeared as a slight, wide eyed, thin human male, maybe twenty,
with skin that was just a little too pink. He
wore what appeared to be white underwear and a T shirt.
There wasn't a speck of dirt on him. I could
only tell he was a robot based on the line
of flashing lights off the side of his temple, which
is so weird, y'all. Why is he out here dressed
like walls are white?
Speaker 2: In the desert.
Speaker 1: Cooking meth what is happening? And then epitome tag of
the dream Architect, Houston of the Madness, and then between
tagging myself the Warlord of the Blood Sultanate. And she
is way bigger than Carl expects. She doesn't need a chair,
and he is struck by how like intense her presence
is and that she has a kind of effect on
him that he hasn't felt since he first met us
herface the guys, you know the one, and that had
been like a sexual attraction, but this is different. It's like,
you know, awe is the word that he uses. So
let's say I'm trying to find Yeah, here it is.
I felt my heart beating faster than normal. Fear and
uncertainty washed over me. This isn't going to work. This
isn't going to work. She knows what we're doing. I thought,
this is so interesting. I think this is a effect
she's having.
Speaker 2: I don't think this is natural.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter in the moment, but it is compelling.
And I really love the vibe of like you really
felt so certain of yourself until you were in their presence,
and suddenly you're doubting everything. That you were certain of
a minute ago. It's not exactly just fear. It's a
like intimidation, I think, is like more accurate.
Speaker 2: You know, it's really kind of like dope. Actually.
Speaker 1: She was a brilliant, glossy white, with a hint of
golden scales along the edge of her wide cobra hood.
She too, wore a golden breastplate emboston to the center
was a symbol I'd never seen, like a tree branch
with a single flower upon it. But strangest of all
was that the naga had six arms, not four, making
her look like some goddess straight from Hindu lore. Each
arm was covered in golden bracelets that jingled and sang
with each wave like movement. Her eyes were solid red,
with no hint of pupils or slits or whatever they
were called in other snakes. The other nagas did not
have eyes like this. She sounds rad as hell, low key.
Don't even want her to die because she sounds like
she looks so cool, and she's like, yeah, I'm Princess Vanada,
but you can call me the Horror. And she is
like holding her hand out to shake his, and he
automatically goes to shake her hand, but they aren't actually
physically together, so his hand goes through hers, and a
part of me was like, God, damn, she got Karl
to like shake her hand. Is like, I don't even
know how these abilities work in the dungeon, Like if
she's there only virtually, can she still have the effect
on him that she might have in the dungeon?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: So this is when Kescadia she is quite drunk and
is trying to get drunker throughout this whole thing, which
is what leads to like Adette totally taking over later.
But as they're all like settling down, people are getting
annoyed because of Dona and Ferdinand laughing at Stalwart's crown.
H Then suddenly they are interrupted system message warning Scolependra stirs.
That changed the mood of the room. Everyone, even Ferdinand
grew silent.
Speaker 2: U has that ever happened? Before?
Speaker 1: I finally asked no, someone answered it was a pitome tag.
Cascadia laughed, it had a hint of madness to it.
Speaker 2: Well why not?
Speaker 1: Why the fucked not? Oh, Kayscadia is over it. I
am wondering if this is related to what winds up
going down with Juice Box later if it's like, because
Juice Box is an NPC and I don't know how
completely free of the Dungeon's influence she is, and if
that was something that happened to her inadvertently or she
was in control of it. It feels in the moment
like she's in control of it, but it probably would
even if she weren't, because the way that this, you know,
it's I don't know, I don't know, so anyway, Odette
because she you know, the way that Choco gets punched
out is by trying to initiate a vote on whether
or not Stalwart looks stupid in his crown.
Speaker 2: So that is what gets.
Speaker 1: Odette here, and she also has to kind of smooth
things over because everyone is freaked out from this notification
and she is just like, well, the AI is definitely
kicking things up a notch. It seems the notification was
just an early warning. It's not the final Dungeon. Boss
isn't supposed to wake until someone reaches the eighteenth floor,
but we all know this season anything is on the table.
With the news that there will be no fail Safe,
everyone is teetering on the edge of the horizon waiting
to see what thea AI will next throw at both
the crawlers and the unwitting world leaders who found themselves
fighting for their very lives. Nobody said anything.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: Let's see, uh Odette paused, waiting for Cascadia to say anything.
When she didn't, Odette continued, if you're not familiar, this
coutine is none other than Cascadia, showrunner and executive producer.
And she's like, I bet you're under a lot of
stress with everything. How are you feeling and puts the
mic in her face and Cascadio just praise out into
the room. It's basically like she's just sort of like
spitting and then just starts laughing. And as she begins
to let laugh in this sort of unhinged way, beside Carl,
Princess Vanada is like, do you see the way that
she's just totally losing it all of these things that
are going on and she's just at the center of it,
and she knows and has crumbled because her loved ones
are gone. I wonder how you'll react when you find
out your whole family's dead. And he's like, my family's
already dead, and she's like, no, no, no, that's not
who I'm talking about. You and I both know you
have to make a move against me soon, and you
might be doing it now while I'm here, which we
are expecting, and we'll be ready. So once everybody is slaughtered,
are you gonna react like her and just like completely
shut down? Eventually you'll have to choose between Donut and Katya?
Speaker 2: How will that work? If you want?
Speaker 1: We can take Katya out, just completely settle that for
you before you have to even think about it. And
this is like almost feeling like she's trying to make
him like flip out in the meeting or something. I
don't know. It's because, like you know, she could talk
to him by chat as far as I know, but
she's like, I would like to make peace with you
and for you to join us in our system when
this is all done. We two are survivors. That is
how we are the same and the whole, Like you know,
there's not such a difference between us. Always been something
that I roll my eyes very heavily at. But this
is more intriguing because I don't really understand exactly what's
going on with the Naga. There has been this whole
thing ongoing about how supposedly they're broke, but there's a
lot of evidence that they're not. And there are some
things that they're putting up affront with, But then there's
stuff that it feels like, well, how could they accomplish
this if they don't have if they're not working with
more than they're letting on. So with her it doesn't
feel quite so like, ugh, oh, I know we're so
alike as it can for me with certain villains, because
there's a bit of a mystery here, so I'm like,
is she telling the truth or what? And I okay,
So side note here.
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 1: You know, there are always going to be when you
are an author phrasing and sentences or idioms that you overuse, right,
it's just what happens. I am very very guilty of this.
It's part of the process of like, as they call it,
writing with the door closed, is your first draft. You
let yourself say things the same way over and over again,
just to get it out on paper, and then when
you go back and ed it, you like change it
up so that it's not the same few phrases a
million times. And there are some properties that I have
covered where it has been really evident and apparent, and
I will let it go until it gets to be.
In this section that I covered, it happened more than once,
so I am going to address it here because this
I felt a chill.
Speaker 2: Wash over me.
Speaker 1: Is twice maybe three times within this section that exact sentence,
and if you just search felt to chill wash over me,
that is like I think in the book total, that
phrase is used nine times in just this book. If
you do chill wash, chill wash is even more. It's
a slightly different turn of phrase, but it is frequent.
So I would just suggest to Matt Dineman's author or
an author editor keep an eye out for that. It
gets distracting the first few times. It's fine, but it's
if I had been binging this, I think it would
have really begun to irritate me because it would happen
so close together as it was. Like I said, just
in this section, it happens twice maybe three times. So
there's another way to say it. Figure it out, That's
all I'm saying. SARAHM says, I always read this as
the Naga being desperate and trying to get Carl to
make a deal with her rather than have him mat
to kill her and just having a really good poker face.
I like, I totally get how you're reading it that way,
sarahm And honestly I was too. And then I was like,
am I just saying that to myself because that's what
I want to be true? And I can't decide, like,
I think there is a good chance of that, especially
like the Naga clearly are really like playing a bit
of a shell game with what their resources are, so
it would make sense that she's putting up a really
good front. But I also am like the whole thing
that that Drakias said was don't underestimate them. So I'm
just like, I don't want to.
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to fall into
the trap.
Speaker 1: You know. Sorry, Michael says, maybe characters are chilling before
they wash.
Speaker 2: You don't know.
Speaker 1: Jeff says, I would be mortified. It's you know, like
I said, it happens. This was something I love the
Bastion series, the Immortal Great Soul series. But in the
first book he uses the phrase brutal bridge, which is
very unique phrase. Actually like fifteen times in the first book.
It was something crazy, and I was just like, bro
somebody needs to get in there and fix this, because
that's insane. So Jeff is saying doggy grin in reference
to Jim Butcher and doggy grin. I feel a little
differently about because it's such a specific situation that I
don't get as irritated with it, you know. But it's
all it's all subjective anyway, Like this whole a chill
washed over me might not bother anybody else. It may
just be me going ah right enough and everyone else
is going right. Really, I didn't even notice, you know,
So it's just, uh, I have to.
Speaker 2: Mention it though.
Speaker 1: So as she is needling, carl Odette is continuing with
the interviews of everybody, and she is saying, like, what's
going on with the princess posse? Can you withstand if
somebody comes at you again? And donuts? Like obviously everybody
else is so disorganized and also one of their own
tanks blew up. Do you guys know for sure that
the Skull Empire didn't press a button and do that
to you, because evidently they can fucking do that. And
stal Wart's just like, you can all go fuck yourselves.
You'll see, you'll all see.
Speaker 2: And I was just like, oh dude, Jesus Christ and Epitome.
Speaker 1: Tag is like, we've deactivated all the skull Empire stuff
that we've got. You had your own personal monetary reserves
depleted because of your shitty security, and now your rep's
destroyed and you're about to have a civil war that'll
make the boring system look like a scuffle between toddlers.
Tell us how we'll be sorry Odette's I twitched at
something tag It said it was subtle, but I saw it.
Speaker 2: Just for a moment.
Speaker 1: Odette I realized wasn't used to having to hide her
real reactions because she was usually behind a bug mask.
That momentary look of horror was quickly replaced with a
journalistic smirk. I think it's the civil war on their hands.
I just think that, you know, the idea of that
is really upsetting to her. It may be something much
more specific than that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: So he keeps talking shit and at one point Not
just chimes in like what's the balance in your bank account?
Which cracks me up.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And this is when Carl is like, okay, everybody, how
in the fuck does everyone know what's going on? If
they're supposedly not getting information from outside the dungeon, and
Odette explains this insane thing that they are doing where
they actually have access to like what amounts to cable
television and are they all own their own TV networks?
And they are changing the names of television shows to messages.
A program formerly called Sensation Updates changed its name seven
times in the course of an hour. That program, as
of this moment, is currently called Yes, we have deactivated
the infected hardware. And I love Donut being outraged, not
because they're finding a way around the rules, but because
they're changing TV show names, which is sacrilegious in her mind,
which honestly that was the first thing I thought as well,
was just like what how are you? Why would you
do that? And then I was like, Natasha, Natasha, oh.
Speaker 2: Me and Donut would truly be besties.
Speaker 1: And the one thing she says, in some circumstances changing
the name might be warranted. Remember what happened with that
one show with the She Devil Lady and the Sully guy.
I don't know what this is in reference to, so
if anybody wants to tell me, curious about it, but
what it sounds like is essentially that there was like
a bait and switch and the show wound up not
being at all like what everyone was expecting. So they
try to patch it because Carl is like, how come
when we like exploit loopholes, they suddenly are fixed and
we can't do it anymore, and these guys can do
this and nothing happens, And when Cascatie asks the AI,
the AI is just like, ah, I'll allow it unless
you guys want to make an emergency request, which they
only have three, and Donna tries to get Ferdinand to
use one of his and he's ready to do it,
but Juice Box stops him and is like, uh uh uh,
they have their own. She's no fool. And I really
like juice Box here being like we're on the same side.
That doesn't mean that you get to treat us like
just a resource for you, because clearly that is still
in a way how you see us. And I am
not here for it, and I'm gonna remind you that's
not what we do anymore. And I was like, fair,
actually completely fair. So sorry, there's a Jeff says outlast her,
what is this?
Speaker 2: Is this a spinoff?
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're referencing. Jeff Michael says Roseanne.
I think she started a movie called She Devil and
Goodman's voiced Sully from Monsters Inc. I think she's referring
to the Roseanne Update show being renamed after Roseanne got
killed off. Oh huh.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that she got killed off.
Speaker 2: I know that she.
Speaker 1: I thought that the show was just canceled, you know. Hmm,
all right, well, this, uh is when Carl is thinking about,
like how much of this did Odette orchestrate regarding this
like whole interview in the topics that come up, and
Cascadia here chimes in and is like, oh, by the way,
they're not just using the TV. There's also food menus
and activity schedules, and there's a locker room feed with
like a training board, and there are NPCs that learn
the daily gossip to chat with you while they gave
you a massage.
Speaker 2: There's tons of different.
Speaker 1: Places that you can start to leak information in. So yeah,
that's something y'all are gonna want to really stay on
top of. And then she just passes at again and
let's see, uh, I have a single statement. Juice Box
finally said, fuck all of you. You had no right
to do what you did. Look at how you bicker
and fight. You can't even take care of yourselves. From
the sound of it, the outside world is a shit show,
and you guys are telling us how to live and
what to do and in planting as with fake memories.
When you guys can't even run your own shit, it's pathetic.
And let me tell you something, and Odette says, we're listening.
And this is when Juice Box changes into this crazy, unknowable,
fucking Lovecraft creature and everybody flips out, like Carl is
very much like, Okay, this creature's creepy looking, but the
way they're behaving is very outsized for being like encountering
a monster. We've seen monsters. Why is everybody behaving like this?
And we find out later that this is like a
specific thing that she's embodying. Right now, It's coming, and
not just for these here with me today, all of
whom are already marked and damned. Those of you at home,
safe with the knowledge everything you've ever known is real true.
Those of you watching this, riveted to your screens, waiting
to see what happens next. It is coming. It is coming.
For you all, what's coming the inevitable ruin? I thought,
the thought came immediately to me, without pause.
Speaker 2: I felt ill.
Speaker 1: That chill doesn't wash over him, but he does feel it.
And then she disappears, and we get the explanation that
she is this creature that's supposed to be sort of
like the Nothing personified, and apparently Architect Houston is obsessed
with this creature and proving whether or not it exists,
and that there is a reaction in the nerves of
people who see this image that indicates that they're even
in those who are otherwise paralyzed. It is studied extensively,
but we still have more questions than answers. Tag considers
this a superstition and that it is not real, but
Architect Houston is very much like this seems to be
at the root of all of this weird experimentation and
torture for him and Carl correctly, because that was my
first thought. It's like, uh, how did she get access
to that imagery? Because they can only turn into things
they've touched, so what the fuck? And then guys, guess
what happens. A chill washed over me. So there you
have it, and he thinks of the school of Pendro
warning and he's just like, m yeah, yeah, those things
go together somehow. What the fuck is going on? So
oh sorry, Michael, listen in the chest. This juice box
is canny as hell, and her not letting Carl and
Don't manipulate Gravy Bote into using one of their remaining
emergency action items shows it, and that she's very aware
there's a separation between her team and the Crawlers. Correct,
maybe I shivered would be another alternative. There's a million alternatives.
There's a million alternatives. I'm just saying, you just gotta
get a little bit creative. So then we have Donut,
who is just like, hey, so if everybody's got their
own TV channel, I want one, And Godesth's like they're
very expensive. I don't even have one, and Donuts like, okay,
how expensive can they even be? The Nagas have one,
which Carl is interpreting this as like she's trying to
buy time, and I was like, Carl, it is so
much more than that. She is figuring out what the
deal is with the Nagas and Loki, setting up potentially
a means of communication. There might be people out there
that have some money that can make a channel you
don't know, I don't think you have any idea about
who's mobilized on the outside. So he is really like
assigning a very simplistic motivation to this whole bit here
with Donut, and I don't think he really is giving
her enough credit. And when she's talking about like, we
imagine what our station could be, like, Odette's eyes twinkled.
I saw the change. The host was back on familiar
ground and suddenly she had an angle on something she
didn't hesitate as she dove right in again, I feel
like he's misreading this. I think Odet's eyes twinkle because
she realizes what Donut's doing, that she's fishing for information
and creating and opening for Odette to tell her some shit,
and Odette spots it and understands. I think Carl's just
not great at this sort of double speak in a
setting where you're performing the way that you have to
be for the camera, and so he's just not really
clocking how many things Donuts managing at once here. And
Odette respects the shit out of Donuts' capacity when she's
on the spot. Because Carl, God bless him, is not
built for this life. This is just not his forte,
you know. So she's like, Oh, the Sultan has on
their fair share of entertainment assets. They always have. They
fielded several dramas this season through their Blood Hunter Holding studio,
and I was just like, oh, word.
Speaker 2: They're the ones.
Speaker 1: And later on it turns out prepotentialy fucking knew this
already somehow. But yeah, uh, let's see, I'm trying to
find this bit. We've been racking our brains trying to
figure out why the Blood Sultan seemed to have so
few troops available. I now knew exactly where those troops were.
I started to laugh. They were dead. The Blood Sultan
was almost defeated already, and they were trying to hide it.
I didn't know how the soldiers were dead, but I
had no doubt most of the mercenaries and NPCs assigned
to the Blood Sultan had all died just as the
hostilities had begun. Wait, Doughnut suddenly said, blood Hunt or
is that the show with the pterodactyl and the vampire
Hunter guy donut look.
Speaker 2: Vanada up and down?
Speaker 1: Oh honey, And I thought it was gonna be the
I was gonna be the one who killed you. And
the internal words of my mulleted friend Holger, you'd unstuck
your pecker in the wrong beehive, which probably will go
down as one of the better turns of phrase of
this entire series.
Speaker 2: But so I'm.
Speaker 1: Currently at an hour, allegedly supposed to do two more
chapters in this time, I'm gonna give myself ten more minutes,
and whatever I get through, I get through, and we
will figure it out. So they get sent back to
the safe room and Carl is in shantytown. I could
tell the plan had already gone sideways by the sheer
number of messages that appeared the moment I returned, and
Ellie is like, no time to explain, but you need
to get in position immediately because everything is fucked. Most
of their armies already dead, and their corpses are still there.
Edgar found them when he started his stand And I
don't know what the fuck is going on, But the
moment we moved into position, that goddamn goat friend of
yours appeared out of nowhere and went absolutely ape shit
on us. He's the one who took out most of
their army. I don't know how we did it, especially
without magic. But that goddamn thing is level ninety nine. Now,
who I'm so sorry. Look, Prepotente, I love him all right,
I'm just gonna say, but like, bro, please, you could
have had it all. You could have had it all,
and you're fumbling it. Christ dude, let's fucking work together. Man.
He called me every name in the book, along with
a handful of ones I'm pretty sure he made up.
Imani told him to calm down, and he called her
a festering gutter maggot. Trawl up.
Speaker 2: It's like hard to be mad. I mean, that's just creative,
you know.
Speaker 1: Also, the Slugglows have stolen a car and are driving
it quite poorly. And then he taps in with Victory
and he's like, can I work with Prepotente even if
he's not part of our army, And she's like, it's
not against the rules for him to do his own
thing while he's in the army, but you can't work
side by side with him and directly ask him to
act on your behalf. If that happens, I appear, If
that happens, I fear I will call foul. You may
circumvent this by getting him to join the Princess posse,
and Carl says, why didn't you tell me you already
had an education on this matter adjudication and why was Prepotente.
Speaker 2: Thrown in jail? There are rules. I follow those rules.
Speaker 1: I am not to be an intelligence source, but I
did warn you before about working directly with crawlers who
aren't your army. You are free to inquire about any ruling,
but the specific details are not freely offered. To answer
your other question. During the adjudication process, he threatened all
members of the korum, including myself multiple times. His punishment
just timed out. So again, I love fucking victory so much.
Her being like, listen, I'm here to enforce some rules.
You keep thinking that I'm like on your side, and
in a very specific way, I'm on your side in
that I will be real about the rules and I'm
not biased toward everyone else. But I'm not. She basically
is like, I'm not one of your little friends. So
this is prepotente. Carl, You idiotic, bumbling, feckless, imbecil, you cad,
you fool, you ruin her. I am most upset with you.
While I understand you have reason to defeat the Naga menace.
I want you to know my claim against them would
have been complete by now if it wasn't for your
clumsy interference. I have already defeated their standing army. And
just as I was about to finish off my vengeance,
I was stopped because they claimed I am an officially
part of your selly fighting force. I was pulled from
battle and forced to defend myself like some unwashed criminal.
And despite my victory during their kangaroo court, I was
still whisked away and placed in a penalty stasis. I
was returned and to find your army pitifully and limply
attempting to do what I should already have done.
Speaker 2: You and your cadre of Nitwitz do.
Speaker 1: Not know what you're doing. She was my mother and
it is my right to exact vengeance against the Naga.
If you know, these are the owners of the vile
drama which caused my mother's death. The Sultana is my
enemy before she is yours. You're attacking her now with
a group of Ignoranaus slugs will do nothing but force
her into hiding. If she hides, neither of us will
have our revenge. Don't it will not be allowed to
leave this floor. I had this, and you have ruined
my plans again.
Speaker 2: You are always running my.
Speaker 1: Plans to ruin everything, and this time I do not
forgive you. There will be no more warm hugs from me.
I don't recall.
Speaker 2: I feel like there was one warm hug.
Speaker 1: I think there was just the one, but uh yeah,
I spit in your eyes.
Speaker 2: Is how it ends.
Speaker 1: Look. Just as I was about to finish off my vengeance,
I was stopped because they claimed I am unofficially part
of your silly fighting force. I don't think this is fair.
I cry foul here and here is where I think
Victory should have stepped in that there is obviously an
intent in accusing him of this. At this moment, he's
about to succeed, and suddenly they're like, no, no, no,
he's breaking a rule and he's pulled out. And it's
not like he's pulled out and time stops where he was.
He's pulled out so that a bunch of shit can
happen while he's gone. No, that's somebody abusing the whole system.
That wasn't a real concern. That was somebody playing a
fucking game. And I have to think that Victory knows
that she's not an idiot. I don't know if she
just can't say so, or if she feels that's just irrelevant.
What are we supposed to do about it? But I
don't like that. I think that's really shady. So I
sent him a third message. If he didn't agree this time,
there was another way to deal with him. So then
we have Carl telling everybody there's been a minor change
of plans. We have to assault without the slugg alows.
Tran says, my team is already nearing the shantytown border
and we haven't met any resistance, and Carl's like, okay,
make sure you're far enough away from the castle. Louis
is taking off. Donut says, I'm on the airplane, move
your butt to that temple, and Florin checks In is
saying it's slow going because there's all these traps which
are very easy to spot, but we do have to
stop and like disable them before we can move forward.
Mordecai was standing in the safe room a line of
potion balls on the kitchen table. Samantha had managed to
paint miss Me on her forehead with red lipstick, which
I do remember this from the cover.
Speaker 2: Is this for Louis?
Speaker 1: What's going on here?
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 1: And Mordecai is trying to warn Carl, and Carl kind
of bites his head off, and it's just like, I
know how it works, and then he has to stop
and be like, look, I'm sorry for snapping at you.
I'll be as careful as I can. And he's like, dude,
I mean every plan you've ever done is insane, but
this is really like teetering, That's all I'm saying, and
he says, hey, only part of this one was me.
Come on, Samantha, Oh boys, Samantha said, rolling off the
table and bouncing once. I'm going to stop here and
we'll include forty six next time. How's that All the
labeling on all these episodes is going to be wrong
for a little while, but I think you guys can suffer.
It's fine, it's fine, I'm doing my best.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 1: Michael is saying I've said it before, but Prepotentie is
scary as fuck. His ability to figure out o pee
ways to kill things before they even though they're under
attack is terrifying. How did he get around the attack?
Magic Band, Carl's team and the NPC's figured out the
bartender skill loophola lets some change water to acid in
a trench. Pony cly did something similar here. Yeah, I'm
not even going to attempt to guess, because I think
that a lot of what Pony knows is due to
coming across that former crawler that we saw in that flashback,
who works with the uh what was it scrolls and
books and whatnot? Prepotente crammed had a cram session with
like the fucking user manual, is my suspicion, and so
he just had He's working with.
Speaker 2: A lot of info. But I really.
Speaker 1: Want the So earlier I was saying Prepotente, you could
join their team and still go do your own thing.
I had forgotten that that's like.
Speaker 2: Apparently not true.
Speaker 1: So perhaps that is why he hasn't joined is because
he's like, they wouldn't have allowed me to handle this myself,
and that is the only acceptable way for me to
exact this revenge because I solely have a claim on
this revenge. It's possible, but anyway, I gotta wrap. So
thank you guys again so much for coming hanging out
with me. I appreciate you a lot. Thank you, Michael
for commissioning this one and until next time to the
lou motherfuckers that was an unspoiled network podcast.