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and I mean, you know, they were kind of peaking
from that part you were talking about. Unfortunately didn't exactly
keep that momentum going. But yeah, I'm glad we had
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you ready? Yeah, avowed reviews are out and why are
people not as right as we are?
Speaker 2: Thank you for asking the important question, Jeff, this game's
been driving me crazy. I feel like since they announced it,
I don't know, Like when they announced I'm like, hey, wow,
everybody Obsidian is gonna make their own other scrolls. You
should be excited. They may fall out New Vegas. You
all really like that? And was like, eh, did I
show the shows like that looks good?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: And I was like, eh that a gay comes out?
I play it. This is really good. You think it's
really good. Freaking Dan Riiker thinks it's really good, So
I'm like, okay, this weird bubble. Maybe he's representing some
kind of very warm reception for this game. It's like,
look like an eighty eighty one. I don't want to
be in a world where that's bad. But you know,
it's not enough. It's not good enough. It's not good enough.
I don't I like this game a lot. What are
other people saying?
Speaker 1: Jeff, Yeah, other people are saying many things, including a
five out of five from BG twenty four to seven
to start us off, that's what about is strong storytelling,
great combat, lovely visuals, and utterly charming. Inverse gave it
a nine out of ten. It's clear Obsidian once again
prioritize quality over quantity. That's not to say about as
a small game, as I still have plenty of side
content to get to after two weeks of playing, but
everything it presents feels tailored toward making the experience as
fun as possible. Here Xbox gave it an eight out
of ten. Says Pillars fans looking that's Pillars of Eternity.
This is from the same franchise, basically, same world. Pillars
fans looking for the sort of depth that comes with
that series will need to adjust expectations accordingly, as this
is a breezy, spunky, fight fueled affair that's more about
creating cool load outs and finding treasure than it is
falling in love with an NPC or spending ten hours
in your inventory at a time. Come for the fast
paced fights, colorful environs, and excellent exploration and you'll have
a great time. VGC gave it a four out of five,
says about as a solid action rpg, IGN seven out
of ten with awesome world building and stellar character writing.
Avout reminds me why I fell in love with the
Obsidians RPGs in the first place. However, the bigger pictures
that it plays it quite safe, with a buy the
number fantasy adventure that's more familiar than evolutionary, not revolutionary,
excuse me, evolutionary and there's barely and that b e
a r any enemy variety to keep it Sword and
sorcery battles interesting for the long run, because you do
fight a lot of bears in the game.
Speaker 2: You know, again, you fight a lot of bears. That's
one of the better criticisms I've heard so far. So
you do fight a lot of bears, fight a lot
of bears, a lot of spiders, and yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. A lizard of people, a lot
of lizard people. Yes. My other criticisms would be just
to get them out of the way, would be you know,
the world doesn't have like an economy the way like
a Skyrim does, and it doesn't have like a real
ownership system, so there's no like, hey, I'm going to
be a thief and steal this. You can just if
there's something on the table and sitting there, no matter
where it is, whose house is in, you can pick
it up, take it, no repercussions. And I always like
there to be like a little bit of like, oh,
I'm sneaking in here to get this because I feel
like I shouldn't be it.
Speaker 2: It's not as systems rich as you know, like a
Skyrim or an Oblivion.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's exactly. But I think they I think that's
part of the quality over quantity. They the systems that
are in here are all really.
Speaker 2: Good, right, the trade off. And like I see some
people say, oh, yeah, the combat's good, I don't think
it's emphasized enough how good the combat feels in this.
It's definitely the best that combat has felt in one
of these. It's so punchy. The different kind of play
styles with the you know melee weapons, the magic and
the bone arrows and pistols, that they all feel different
but unique. You're using cooldowns from yourself and your party members,
all mass effect too, and the sort of side steps
you do to dodg jenimies. It just it feels, it
feels very refined. It get punchy is the word for it.
There's a lot of impact going on all the time.
Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely, I think Another criticism Jesse Norris from Xbox Era,
who gave it like an eight point eight out of ten.
He really liked it as well. He mentioned he wanted
to experiment more with different builds. That became difficult later
on because he couldn't find as many resources as he
needed without like breaking down some of his current builds
that he didn't want to break down because a lot
of the enemies don't respond, so it became hard to
farm for certain things. And it's like, oh, they could
fix that if they just had a respawning enemy's mechanic
ing as you said at at a Blood Moon, I
think that would go a long way towards helping this game.
And I think that's something they could easily add and
probably will do outside of that, and these I think
those are nitpicks. By and large. The game is I
think incredible. It is so much fun to play. They
do get they like, hey, go explore the way you want.
And what we're going to do is we're gonna make
all the quests that you come across and the main
quest fun and not breezy like as in like they're
just there's nothing to them. There's a lot to them,
but we're gonna make them easy to get into and
always feel like they have a beginning middle and they
have a payoff they feel they feel great to participate in,
so that when you are ready to come back and
get on the track that we built for you, you're gonna
you're gonna have a good time. And then when you
do get distracted and you want to get off the
track and go do your own thing, you can also
have a good time and push up against the world.
And then we're going to push back a little bit,
just as a reminder of you're not completely free to
just go like survive anywhere. You're free to go anywhere,
but you can't survive everywhere, And that I think is
just a good give and take, a pushing a pull
that's sort of Hey, we are playing along with you
as you play our game. We're here kind of authoring
an experience, an experience not by forcing you down a
railroaded path, but by having systems in place to kind
of push you in one direction and really push against you.
And then you decide what is that pushing against you? Mean?
Do you want to keep trying to go into this
woods that you keep dying in, maybe sneak in, take
out one enemy at a time if possible. You're free
to try to do that until it becomes overwhelming, and
then you're probably gonna want to back off, go find
some new armor. And that now you have this own,
your own little quest line that you've built for yourself.
Of I am underpowered, under leveled, under armored, so I
need to figure out what I need to do to
get that stuff up to match these enemies. And that
becomes a new motivation to push you through the main story,
in the main quest and all the side quest that
you find. And I'm just I'm having a blast with it.
Speaker 2: I can't say enough about how much I like the game.
The way the game looks and not even just from
like a graphical fidelity angle, but just the art direction
where you know, a lot of these games kind of
look drab or a little dreary, and you know, you
get that there's so much medieval influence on things, and
things are just you know, earth tones or snow. A
lot of times that's what you get. But here though,
the world's very colorful and it's bright in a lot
of ways, but they're using these very unnatural colors, all
these very bright teals and kind of pinkish purples again,
like coluse you don't normally see in nature. So there's
something off putting about it in a way too, there's
something alien about it. So the world could still read
as being dangerous and a little weird. It's not like
it's you know, suddenly feels like you're in a DreamWorks
movie or something like that. But it just makes it,
you know, a lot more pleasant and fun to walk
around this world when it is colorful and interesting. It's
something I want to keep looking at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the colors for sure, like that stuff is,
it continues to blow me away. But then it is
the and I guess that that is art designed. But
then they are on top of that of the vistas
and the the architecture of the living world, the people
that have decided to build settlements here and those that
have now turned into ruins. And you'll turn the corner
and you'll just see, you know, these rolling hills, cool
forest rocks and more trees, and then a half of
a castle left, and then all that stuff interspersed with
that color that you mentioned. And I just love looking
at the game, so that is a big part of it.
It's just a cool world to be in. That that
makes it, like I think everything makes this game very playable,
which is I think the word I would most use
to describe it. You could just hop in you'll merely
start having a good time and then you'll want to
keep being in that world because it is so strange
and neat to experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and in it. I don't know, it's I don't
know why I'm like taking I don't know why I'm
like letting I know, a slightly lower reviews going. I
was expecting for it not bum me out, but just
kind of throw me off kilter. Part was like, oh
am I out of touch, because I don't know, I
thought that this was just going to be received better.
It's even hard to get a sense of why, right,
because opinions are over the place. You know, some you know,
things people are complaining about a little bit hard to
pin down. Some people bring up the story and writing
a bit. I haven't had that much of a problem
with you of those, but those are two very subjective things, right,
So you know that could be you know, that's all
stuff that can really thank your game, Like that is
what really brought Veil Guard down. It seems like, is
everyone complaining about the writing specifically, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so that clearly was for Railguard, And
you know, I don't get it here as much I think,
or if I do get it, it is, I get it,
but I disagree because I think what this game is
going for it pulls it off. Is not like oh
that's weird or cringe or something that they're trying to
have this fit this into this game. Everything makes sense.
All the characters' motivations are very clear. Their behaviors I think,
are very maybe metropolitan, and maybe that's throwing some people
off because they're like, this is a fantasy game, but
a lot of the people you encounter are from this
very melting pot city where all these people from all
over the world come and spend time together. That is
just necessarily going to breed a certain culture that feels metropolitan,
and so people are more aware of what other people
around them and more considerate in some ways, and then
also more biased than some others towards certain groups of people.
And I think the way that they think about like
political issues, would be something that these characters would think about.
And it's never I don't know, it's never in your face.
It's always something that makes sense in the context of
what this character does in the world. So I doubt
that's what most people are talking about. They're probably talking
about the light hearted sort of you know. They aren't like,
oh that is that was going to take out their blade,
and there's no one talking like that. They all mostly
sound like we sound today, And maybe some people have
a problem with that. Again, it's hard to pin down.
As you said, for me, that works. Though I'm enjoying
all of the characters. I am especially enjoying many of
the quests. I think that they, like I said, have
good beginning, middle, and end. I feel like they always deliver.
I'm picking up just about every side quest I can.
I'm at a point where I am constantly going out
in the world like trying to like do the Jeff
Grubb thing, and I'm gonna just go do my own thing.
And then I'm gonna I run into a skeleton with
three skulls above his head, which says, oh, this is
he's got really good armor and you don't. And so
I'm like, Okay, you know, I'm gonna do a lot
of these things that I've been putting off that I
was like, oh, these will be a little treats later. Well,
now it's later. These are the treats. I'm gonna go
do some of these side quests, and some of them
are also still too high level for me. So I'm
doing the ones that I'm ready for, and I'm like, oh,
I could feel myself right there on the cusp ready
to take on more difficult tasks and be able to
succeed pretty easily. So now I'm going to go back
out in the world and kind of take on a
lot of that stuff now. And I just I think
that loop is very exciting and very well executed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I'm just I'm gonna be curious to
see what you know, the sort of wider public opinions
game settles on being right because party is like, I
wonder if this is going to be a little bit
of a of a reverse Starfield, Right, We'll start talking
about to very good reviews really and ask people about
it now, and generally everyone's like, I hate that. That's
a bad thing. Ye, So I don't know, it'll It'll
be interesting to see where this lands. I have very
little hopes of it being much of a breakout like
sales hit, right, Yeah, it's gonna it's kind of going
to kind of be a bit of a high five
rushing where like, well, maybe it helped people keep their
game Pass subscriptions going longer. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong,
but it's not coming to PS five. It's just on
Xbox and PC.
Speaker 1: It'll be on PS five eventually, like that that will happen.
I think it's gonna okay on PC. I think it's
going to really find an audience on PC. I think,
you know. The real frustration I think for me, Mike,
and this is probably part of what's feeling your frustration
is I get that we want to like dismiss a
lot of these games out of hand, because they are
just they do feel so made by committee and made
by telemetrics, Like, hey, looking at data, how do people
play these things? Let's just make that more of that,
the stuff that they play, the stuff that like ninety
percent of players go and enjoy. We should just make
games that aren't only that. And I get that, like
the games made by committee are getting really old and
feeling really sort of you know, like they are just
being piled out from a factory. This is not one
of those, or if it is, it is a much better.
It's like the ideal version of one of those, where
a lot of humans clearly had their hand in authoring
what this should be and putting a lot of stuff
in that they know not everyone is going to see.
And I think that we should be like, hey, this
is what we're talking about when we want these big
companies to make big games. This is a good one
of those, and so they should be rewarded so we
can get more of them. And we just live in
a world where people are, I think, are so skeptical
of all these kinds of games, and this one, from
the outside looks a lot like I think a lot
of triple A slop I get it, and so I
think I think it'll take time for that wall to breakdown,
and once it does, people are going to embrace this
game in the long term.
Speaker 2: I definitely, I definitely want to play Kingdom Come Deliverance
too right now, not you know, on TV, Oh on TV.
There you go.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still not really sure if I'm going to, like,
I don't know, but I almost like need to like
get a sense of what people like, right Like I
kind of want to know, like why is why skinsule?
This one's the eighty nine? This one was an eighty
And I if that sounds ridiculous to you and to
a lot of people, like, oh, these guys are getting
shoot hot about a game getting an average score of
an eighty or every one, I get it, But I
you know, I just like, I don't know, I just
thought I thought higher for this one.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, it's uh, it is weird, you know. I
think Kingdom Deliverance too, I more I play it to more.
I'm like, this feels so much like a JRPG, just
set in Europe, and I think that's what a lot
of people like.
Speaker 2: A lot like Lord of the Ring's the third age.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm just like playing I'm like, this
reminds me of like the beginning of Chrono Trigger in
a lot of ways. It's like it's weird. I don't know,
you should play it and kind of see if.
Speaker 2: I know exactly what you're talking about. I mean, if
you play Tales of Grace's f like I am, I
know exactly what you're talking about. So yeah, I want
to give it a go and maybe get a sense
of what's up. I mean, I tell you one thing
and I think people do want is systems, right boy,
Because if systems and variety, that's I think the big
thing that people really want, not life service on these
other buzzwords. That's what seems to beginning people these days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think people just really want to feel like
something was people. Someone put something in this game and
they want they put it in there because they really
wanted to see it in there, and they had ownership
of it. And then the one the player takes over
the game starts playing it, you get to decide do
you want to engage with that stuff or not, and
whether that's systems or like you know, quest and branching
quests that have stuff that you like, ninety nine percent
of players won't see I think having that stuff in
there so players can ignore it or engage with it,
that's where a lot of this magic comes from. This
game is doing that for sure. All Right, Uh, I
think we'll I think we'll probably talk a little bit
more of about about next week. I will be interested
to see kind of how things shake out and see
if the narrative kind of like builds, like if it like,
where does this arc bend towards towards us or towards
that eighty And I'll be curious to see where it ends.
Speaker 2: If like the Steam and it's on Steam, I think
if like the Steam user reviews this time next week
are like mixed, I'll just be like, man, I don't know.
Maybe I just don't know what evil Yep.
Speaker 1: I've been feeling crazy a lot lately, and this one's
one of those for sure. Okay, Uh, there was that
Sony State of Play Mike you were watching, We did
a talk over. You were not on that, So I'm
curious what your thoughts are, like quick takeaways, what were
the big standout games? What's your letter grade? Tell me
all your thoughts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess my letter grade is probably but more
like a CEE maybe a C plus. I didn't think
it was bat or anything. Part of it is just,
you know, like the stuff I'm really interested in. Nothing
crazy there, perhaps, I mean, you know, and again, maybe
you know me be sounding old again. By far, the
best looking game to me was Shanoby, which we oh
my god, we finally got a beggar. Look at Shanoby
Art of Vengeance and it looks so freaking good. It's
so clearly taking stuff from Shanoby three, including like a
little surfing section and stuff like that. Lizard Cube did
such good work with Streets of Rage four, so I
cannot wait for Shnoby. I mean, gosh, even though I
was looking at the list, it's like, yeah, it's not.
There's plenty of good games here in terms of the announcements,
I mean, so the one big thing was Sarah's House
sparks of the game, and that is allowed to be
a one big thing for sure. You know. I just
didn't really get into Praternal for whatever reason. Part of
me wonders, and maybe when I get the new PC
that might be something fun to try out, you'll see,
because it's a pretty game, and maybe I'll get into
it more and I could get a little bit more
excited for it again. We'll see, you know, there was
it was something that kind of you all were talking
about these action games right that all are kind of
just blending together to me, And I think some of
them could be fun and maybe I'll want to check
them out. Sure, but they aren't very interesting to watch
trailers for and they do nothing to get me excited
about anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I get excited about those right now, it
is usually from the perspective of it is awesome to
me that developers from all over the world are making
these games that ten years ago you would have absolutely
just needed a team at Capcom or Coe Techbo to make.
And now these teams are coming from all over the Korea, China,
and they love these games themselves and now they're getting
a chance to make them and I'll see if they're
good when I get to play them. And in the meantime,
they are all beginning to blend together. So excited that
we're getting a lot of them and then picking out
any which individual one to really get my hopes up for.
I'm just not that person right now. So yeah, I
I know, like Sean. I think that really helped him
because he loves those and I think he would take
twenty of those. There's gonna be a lot of people
out there like that, I think, and.
Speaker 2: For Sean to tell me, like which ones are worth
checking out, you know, right.
Speaker 1: Exactly, I will rely on on that crew to kind
of be like, all right, we're gonna go play all
these and then we'll let you know which one is
like the most close to band at A two or whatever.
And then I think the other half of the thing
with the state of play is, you know a lot
of familiar stuff that we know is coming out very soon,
Monster Hunter, Yakuza, things like that.
Speaker 2: Sure and can I get it? And there was some
new stuff that was surprising, like Warriors Are Bess that roguelike.
That's interesting. I know that came out. I gotta see
people thought about it. Darwin's Paradox was a ought to game,
I think being published by Konami, because I definitely got
an email from Economy about how they because they adopted
a shoot octopus or something, and I was like, wait, what.
Speaker 1: You're publishing this octopus game?
Speaker 2: Good Konami, I guess, And you know, I'm still trying
to figure out how I feel about Sonic racing Cross Worlds,
because first, right at some point, I was like immediately
despairing because it immediately was just nothing but a bunch
of Sonic characters racing on a normal track. So like, oh,
this isn't Transformed, this is gonna be like Sonic Team
racing again. But then they started going to at least
the levels of other places we didn't see really different
characters and it is called crossworld So you know, it's
funny because somebody even asked us on a show not
too long agoing, hey, like, the thing that really made
Transform great wasn't necessarily the other characters, It was the
tracks designed around the other characters. I was like, Yeah,
But now that I'm looking at it, I'm like, I
still want to play as Nights or something that could
be good. I still just want to see more of Crossworlds.
And what's going on with that one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think there was a press release
for that one as well, and I read that and
I still felt like I didn't have the clarity on
like what did the crossworlds like him crossing to these
other worlds really mean?
Speaker 2: So part of me it's like, Hey, don't enough people
like transform. Can't you just tell me it's like that
if it is like that, So.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, Like you don't have to be koy about
it anyway. From my email, Kunami adopts Charlie Darwin and
Octopus at the Aquarium of the Pacific ahead a new
video game announcement of Darwin's Paradox. So glad we both
got that email, and I definitely did the same thing.
I'm like, what the fuck, Like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: I do think you know? So like Sarah's is announced
for twenty twenty six, and part of me is like, yeah,
they got to show like one more big game that
we know is coming out this year. They're not doing that,
and it's like, oh, I guess, I guess there probably
isn't one. It's going to be Ghost, It's going to
be Best Stranding, and god, there's something else I think
that they have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dest Stranding, Ghost to Yota. Uh. Those are like
the really big ones. There's also Lost Soul aside that
is Sony Interactive Entertainment, but not PlayStation Studio Marathon and
then Marathon. Those are the ones, like the PlayStation studios
games really is just ghost to Yota because even you know,
Marathon is Bungee, although they are solely becoming PlayStation studios,
you know, but it still counts PlayStations publishing. So lost
soul a side and god, I can't keep oh, desk
stranding too.
Speaker 2: Des stranding too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think, listen, that's that is a pretty
good year. Like, let's be clear, that's that's a pretty
good year. I just think like when we're like going
into a state of play that's not the games people
are listing that they're really hoping show up. They're hoping
for a bunch of the other ones that we're still
waiting to hear about. And you know, the House Smart game, Okay,
we did get that, that's twenty twenty six. I think
the reality is, Mike, this is like informed speculation, not
fully one confirmed, but pretty informed speculation. Those are the
games for this year. Don't expect anything else really from
PlayStation this year. And then twenty twenty six is when
a lot of that stuff will pop off, and you'll
get a lot of new announcements and still you know,
Wolverine could come out next year things like that. So
to me, I think that overall like all things being fair,
I think that still feels like a relatively light year
compared to what our expectation levels are per PlayStation. But
it's not a bad year by any means.
Speaker 2: It's like, is it the light or is it the
new normal? Because it was a light year from them
last year. I mean, what else aside from Astrobot which
was huge and you know, like Horizon Lego, what were
the first party Sony games last year?
Speaker 1: It was you know, Astrobot, yeah, right, Horizon Lego, Horizon Health.
Speaker 2: Divers too in contourt right exactly. So yes, so the
live service stuff. Yeah, so you know it's like, yes,
not bad. Yeah, just answer question chat. No fair games
this year were fair games as far as I'm aware.
It has been pushed to twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so.
Speaker 2: There you go. So yeah, maybe it's like yeah, like
three or four games and some of them are going
to be you know, life service things. That's kind of
where you're you know these days for First Party City
is I guess it's pretty normal, right, just not just
remember the heady days, Jeff.
Speaker 1: I know. I mean yeah, and it's like I think
PlayStation wants to be putting out more games than this.
You know, I think this year, like Xbox is going
to have a ton of stuff, and now that stuff
is going to be on PlayStation. So it's not like
that's hurting shit Sony or anything, but you know, I
think we're still going to have that comparison a little
bit of like PlayStation. One of the reasons we care
so much is first Party, where is that stuff? And
the reality is they just are still in a weird
place with a lot of those games. Now, they could
still have some fun announcements, they could really start bolstering,
like the expectations for twenty twenty six. I think that
internally it sounds like they're debating flopping between maybe making
something this summer a full showcase versus another state of play.
But they are considering a showcase, so and if they
have a showcase, that means still have a lot of
stuff to talk about, And at that point you would
definitely expect to see Wolverine and a lot of other
games that could come out next year.
Speaker 2: Gummy Bears from Bungee Like Jr. Yeah said that whole thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Gummy Bears apparently still very far away. So
I think that that maybe maybe they tease that somewhere,
but that's still very far off. And then uh, it
was there was one other like tidbit that I wanted
to make sure I remind people about, Oh oh marathon.
Marathon wasn't here, because they're probably gonna do their own thing.
Bungee does their own thing usually for Destiny, they're going
to adopt that same we're talking to our audience strategy
this year as well, So I would think April we
probably hear from them about about marathon, and it would
just be its own thing, separate from a state of play. Okay, overall,
I thought like, hey, my state of play expectations are
always so so low. B B minus is kind of
where I settled at. But like when I look at
these games, yeah I could, I definitely see the seed
and like, like you said, some of these things just
didn't work for you.
Speaker 2: I probably had my expectations too high, because like I
was hoping for maybe one big third party anounced something
like a resident.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have really helped. You're right, that.
Speaker 2: Might have helped, and yeah, maybe you know, just I
guess there's gonna be one big first party us man,
and it just is a game that doesn't necessarily pop
off for me, could very easily end up being a
game I adore in love. We'll see, but just like
seeing the announcement for it doesn't send electricity through my body?
Speaker 1: Right, okay? Uh? And I think that's gonna do for
the big headlines this week. What we should do now
is we're gonna take a break. We'll come back and
we got plenty of super chats to talk about. Let's
see what the folks want to talk about. Mike, Does
that sound good?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Do that right after this? All right, Mike, we have
super chats that we must attend to. Can you please
attend to them?
Speaker 2: All right? We go Big Fresh thirty seven says can't
wait for tonight's Mount Rushmore. No matter the topic, Mike,
well be sure to bring up Halo, just to shat
on it and cut it. My favorite recurring bit, Mike,
you're such a Halo hater. A look, I know.
Speaker 1: What can I do? What can I do? Maybe Halo
should be better.
Speaker 2: I like the last Halo and you all hate it
and drove the series into the ground. What do you
want me to to? I tried.
Speaker 1: I'm also like exact same opinion on Halo where I
just never cared about that much. I beat Halo too,
at least to be fair, you apparently haven't beat Halo
too that I.
Speaker 2: Didn't beat Halo two. I mean, I you know, I
started Halo two.
Speaker 1: You know, like you're good. You don't need to beat
Halo two. Come on, and we love Halo Infinite more
than anybody.
Speaker 2: Apparently they really don't like when I mentioned that I
played Halo Reach like all the way through when it
came out. It wasn't that move. But there's too much
for me.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just I'm glad this s got brought.
Speaker 2: Up because between a glazing A vowed and then saying
I didn't like the state of play, I was.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I was too worried about my balance on the console
war meter these days, the most weird thing to worry about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really shake that up sometimes. Let's make it happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, go ahead, big fresh story. Sevens back
since my last super Chap poked fun at Mikey let
him rint for a bit about how ratch Nobi looked
since he couldn't make it to the react. God, I
wish I could, like, I wish, I you know, like
death note instead of death note. I wish I had
a you can't even play Shinobi note. Ah, these shitters,
this fuckers, you don't deserve shit.
Speaker 1: Bey's gonna be so good. I'm I think it's gonna
get waitwee.
Speaker 2: I remember like the very first teams we saw, but
I was like, oh, maybe this is the best way Vanya.
This one I got less that impression. It's hard to tell,
but I think probably more traditional level based game is
my guests right.
Speaker 1: Now, fans out there now sure are uh?
Speaker 2: Simmons from Saskatchewan says today's gay mess at forty minutes
to twenty five seconds to forty minutes and twenty eight
seconds with no context is good. I did go to
check this clip. It's Sean. Sean sangingly listened to this
again real quick. Yeah you need he needs some good
beats while you're beating some ass, is what Sean. So
that's the quote. There no context, anybody perfect.
Speaker 1: We'll get that we'll put on the sideboard.
Speaker 2: Sign from Saskatchewan says, please do a tier list of
love to hate for these I think this is for
me judging by context, follow but not too close missions.
Brawl tripping Lazarus Pit, Dan's mainline Mario list apples, Okay,
Apples is at the top. Hate hate the most apples
the most.
Speaker 1: I think apples is that is number one for me
on this list in terms of love.
Speaker 2: Okay. No one asked you after that would be Dan's
mainline Mario list. I hate that, but I don't hate
it as much as I hate apples. Then tripping and
brawl that's the third most hated thing, followed by the
Lazarus pit. Those are bad to and then and then
the escort missions are the follow but not too close missions.
Those are very bad though, boy, I hate those. I
hate all these things. I don't love any of them.
Speaker 1: No love, Yeah, I think there's I feel like there's
been some okay follow but not too close missions.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Never better than okay though, like acceptable, adequate.
Speaker 2: And then another one here from Simon from skatchewand Dicky.
Simon says, please watch thirty second YouTube clip of David
Lynch on Pop product placement. I had that clip on
repeating my head lately for some reason. Not sure. Why
do you know this clip?
Speaker 1: No, I'll check it out. I might have seen it before,
but it's not coming to mind.
Speaker 2: Then one more from Simon says, need block heaters in
Ohio fucking negative forty nine celsius a wind chill.
Speaker 1: Very cold as well. Yep, yep, very very chilly tonight.
Speaker 2: It is cold. There's like a wind show or something
because the temperature doesn't read that cold. But yeah, it
feels cool.
Speaker 1: It's it's super windy today, like my trash cans blew.
Speaker 2: Over big frustrating. Simmons is thirty seven, says switch Top
one hundred mark of the Ninja remastered.
Speaker 1: With very very goods. I'll probably add that.
Speaker 2: Ricky be says, love Nikki, but objection chicken bakes are
delicious actually, like taking them home and eating each bite
with saracha pen is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I'll try it, I guess, although I don't know.
It sounds like a lot. I'm not sure if I'm
ever going to be in the mood for that, but
I'll try it, and I'll judge, and i'll let you know.
I'll let you all know, and I'll tell Nikky to
their face if they are wrong.
Speaker 2: Rickey Besa is also Mike, you love meat, right, But
that's part is the juice, the squirt of liquid fat.
How is that different than the juice of a fruit,
pen Is. There's no squirt, to be clear, with juicy meat,
and if there was, I wouldn't like it meat juicy.
But no, it's very different than Okay, it's not way
less water content. Yes, it's very different. Yes, Nick says,
New Vegas is eighty four Metacritic and is currently the
favorite fall game. Ten years from now, VOUD is going
to be looked on in a different light. Penis, Yeah,
maybe so much of that was A New Vegas was
a buggy mess when I first came out that this
is not at all, This is not like especially again
for one of these and these kind of games are
almost always very jinky, very buggy. Look at freaking Starfield.
Oh that's right. Ooh, And now I'm remembering those early
some of the Starfield reviews like this one's not even
that jinky, and it was the junkiest one. It was
so buggy and so junky. Yeah, you know, I don't,
but it likes already. Start guessing about a vow's like
status as a cult favorite someday. Who knows. Maybe maybe
it's possible. I know it's crazy, maybe we're wrong. Maybe
I doubt it I doubt it.
Speaker 1: I doubt it. I'm definitely gonna I'll I'll make my
bet now that I think this game is going to
be very fondly remembered and be one that people point
back to frequently as a game that was underrated at
its time.
Speaker 2: Who Kagaba gool Boy says, thanks for taking my power
metal call on myself, because that's up. Your throats aren't
shredded next time. Don't tighten larynx. You all sound like Toad.
I love you. Hey, I did good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike crushed it. I have a very tight larynx.
Mike gaping larynx your problem.
Speaker 2: I think you leaned into the microphone when you did yours,
which seems like a mistake. I think probably that's probably right.
You know you're gonna be very loud. You gotta back to.
Speaker 1: Say, not a lot of practice with my power metal screams.
Speaker 2: I have because I karaoke, uh kaoke, mister Roboto a
lot ex actually a power metal ballad. There is a
part of that song where he screams very loudly, and
I gotta do it. I'm not gonna lie. It usually
goes over pretty well, so I was impressed. Uh daily
beating a member on the Lincoln to here for eleven months.
Think you daily beating, says Landed Orlando. Today. Spending a
few days at Disney Tonight is Disney Springs, and I
bet you all can guess where he choose to eat
for people don't know. He's making a joke about the
Rainforest Cafe, which, look, I want to be clear, there
are so many good places to eat at at that
Disney Springs. I hope you're just joking. Go to Homecoming,
go to Morimoto Asia, go to Boathouse, go to Raglan Road,
even don't come unless you have kids who really want to.
You know, I get it for the kids, the theming,
come on, come on. You can't go in the gift
shop though. If you stand right outside the park where
the gift shop meets the outside, that's where it happened.
Speaker 1: It's not racist if the if a Japanese person started
Morimoto Asia Christian, that's just the name of the restaurant.
Speaker 4: Yeah, every restaurant has a racist name. Somehow.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, this time, I didn't do anything. Screamy
Madden says, is it official that Jeff Grubb is a
hotter Blues Brother? Than Dan Aykroyd. Absolutely, nobody's ever thought
dan Ackroyd was hot.
Speaker 1: Didn't did any date Kerry Fisher did her Fish probably did.
Just dated him because he's funny, which I get.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he gave her a lot of drugs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's true.
Speaker 2: Bob is Me says, don't let the haters get you down. Boys.
I still love you even with your wrong opinions. I
appreciate it. Ali merackle that you again for the ten
gifted subs and said home in pneumonia free peus good.
I'm glad you're feeling better than Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, parent walking. Pneumonia is going around a lot of
the schools here, which is one of the reasons we
had school canceled one day because people were sick.
Speaker 2: A lot of people sick right now. So everybody be
safe out there. Don't go jumping into any public ball pits.
Oh grug says. If somebody told me it took a
member of Giant Bombs seventy minutes to find out you
can save a game, I wouldn't think that would be
Jeff and not Dan Penny. You know the whole look,
the whole saving game thing. Jeff, we don't really know
how much that would have helped.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we still have not really like seen exact I mean, listen,
it clearly helps some I would.
Speaker 2: Have saved like it would have. You wouldn't have had
to do that guessing game thing a bunch, because you
would have already gotten the key from that or whatever,
right exactly what save your items, but you still always
start in your cell. The thing that killed me was
the very beginning of the game. You leave the first
room and like to your left is the health upgrade
permanent health upgrade item, giant and spinning, and you always
went right. You always just walked right past it.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're even understating it, like the way
you're describing it. I didn't have to like even go
right that much. I just had to be like veer
a pixel in that direction before going in the direction
I wanted to go. It was. It was almost more
work to avoid it every time I did it.
Speaker 2: It's so blatantly there that they may as well have
just started you with three hearts, except they were trying
to teach you what that.
Speaker 1: Upgrade looks like. That was pretty wild. What you do?
Speaker 2: You know, It's all good, See you next one here
to refresh YouTube because you two breaks constantly. Yeah right crazy.
The next one is from super Harmon says I rewatched
Blues Brothers every I rewatched Blues Brothers every February for
my dad's birthday, as it was his favorite film. I'm
into the site of Black Club is rude this year.
I still want to watch it. Uh a little surprise.
I'm not into it, dan is, but I don't really
know much about the movie. Something I feel like I
should watch.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I got I bet Dan's
expectation is it's supposed to be like this lam ryet. Yeah,
and it's it's just kind of like the Blues Brothers
doing their thing. It's if you can vibe out to it.
I think it's a really good time.
Speaker 2: I think I could vibe. I think I could vibe.
I watched a movie. I watched a movie just by
myself in my house for maybe the first time in years.
The other day, WHOA would you watch Dragon Ball Super Brawley.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been meaning to watch that.
Speaker 2: It rules. It's very good. Good.
Speaker 1: That told you.
Speaker 4: If that movie seemed incredible.
Speaker 3: Good action, its great.
Speaker 2: It was a good setup too, though, so I don't know.
This definitely one of the better of those movies. I've
definitely way better than all the original Proley movies for sure.
And he's canon, I agree, as is Gojda. So yeah,
I enjoyed it. Really good animation too, which I know,
like with the actual Super the show, the animation is
oftentimes dubious, but.
Speaker 4: The yeah, they have to cut corners, you know.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, let's see her now. Next one is from
Adam Stein, says Jeff, what's the best way to get
into hockey? I've already decided I'm a Red Wings fan,
but know basically nothing about the sport.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, A good way to get into it
is to pick one of the you know, classic video games.
That way you can learn the rules. Uh that's you know.
How I learned the rules of every sport was playing
the video games as a kid, and then I would
watch the Four Nations Cups. Right now, go watch the
USA is playing Finland right now. Yes, yesterday's Canada versus
Sweeden game was incredible. It was so good. I went
to overtime three on three, the best players in the
world going back and forth. It was you couldn't catch
your breath. It was so good. So if you have
ESPN Plus, if you have ESPN, if you have ABC,
I think it's on all those channels. It's on right now.
So as soon as we're done, go watch it. Don't
go right now.
Speaker 2: This hockey havin equivalent of like ken Burn's Baseball documentary,
because back when I was getting into baseball, just watching
that sort of helped me. I don't know, it's funny,
like I was like, Okay, I'm caught up on the support.
Now i know all the important things that have happened,
and I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1: Not exactly like the Ken's Burn Ken Burns documentary, but
they have there's a lot of like good thirty for
thirties that will catch you up on some of the
bigger moments in the sport. And those are all really
really good. Man.
Speaker 2: I remember watching thirty for thirty back when there was
just thirty of them.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, right, exactly.
Speaker 2: They were good.
Speaker 1: Now there's a few more than thirty, just a few more.
Speaker 2: Carlos Lopez says, well, Xbox ever hit an unquestionable home run.
Are they satisfightting singles and doubles? Are they shooting for homers?
Speaker 1: Even.
Speaker 2: I mean, they've definitely shot for homers. They wanted Starfield
to be a homer for sure. Really Starfield had won
that homer.
Speaker 1: Starfield's really like what happened right when when like everything's
in Xbox, you can trace that right back to Starfield
not hitting the way they needed it to hit. Yeah,
it's like a Starfield can't do it, nothing can do it?
Speaker 2: Will you ask someone to couch? One time, I pretty
point blank like, hey, like a lot of these games
like aren't really hitting, aren't being like super big. I
think you talked to him shortly after the Red Fall,
would sid it, right? And it's like, okay, so you know,
maybe we get the sense you never really believed in
Red Fall. I forget if I'm I might be phrasing
this incredibly. It's that's something basically like what is like
the game that you think games really should be looking
forward to? And he said Starfield at that time, right,
And it was I think right when they had that
amazing showing for it that summer and it looked like
it was primed to be this home run and it
just kind of wasn't you know that said you take
enough swings, you'll get a home run. Eventually at a
certain point it is almost looking like bad luck a bit.
How long it's been to get a home run in
terms of both big critical success and big like player
sells success.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that some of them that
they're working on are still going to try to be
home runs. I think perfect dark they'll try to really push.
But yep, maybe a best for now triples at best.
Speaker 2: Doctor Wright says, how long do y'all reckon till a
vowt hits PS five? I mean before the end of
the year. I think before the end of the year.
He had by the holiday this fall. Yeah, put it
out this fall unless there's some reason it's like it's
really not a hit and like you know, it doesn't
sell at all, They like it's not worth it. I
don't think that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like if it gets out before before the
Christmas season this year on PlayStation five, it'll do just
find no matter what.
Speaker 2: Total dial zero zero zero, says Jeff before playing a vout,
Did you remember that it had guns?
Speaker 1: Yeah, although I did as soon as I got one.
I did send a picture to Mike and be like,
oh my god, it has guns. Why didn't you tell me.
Speaker 2: It's funny? Uh uh, I've been using a oh a lot.
Actually that's fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all fun. I mean, but everything you do,
no matter what you choose in that game, it's fun.
They make it all feel really good.
Speaker 2: Chris prattzs no Mario Arcade at State of Paint, So
sad any news on Mariarcade at the rumored February direct.
Getting tired of having this arcade in my laundry room.
Speaker 1: That's very funny, buy it and keeping his laundry room
just like he remembers going to the laundry mat. Oh
that was the call back there, hoies shit, Yeah, that's
like the whole reference here is like one time in
one interview before the Super Mario Brothers movie, he was like, yeah,
I love Mario. I didn't have any money as a kid,
so when I saw the Mario Arcade machine in the laundryman,
I was always like, oh man, if only I could
the things I would do to that game. It's like okay,
And now he's in our chat non stop talking about it. Yeah,
I think yeah, huge chance for Mario Arcade to pop
off hard at February Direct, which could still happen.
Speaker 2: Big Fresh thirty seven says, Sonic Racing about to be
Game of the year.
Speaker 1: Penis, Yeah, I think I would really like to see
Crossroads hit home for that audience that likes Transformed.
Speaker 2: I was about to say, Man, a lot of things
would have to change real quickly in this world for
a racing game, let alone the Sonic one, to be
game of the year. Yeah you think, do you think
Mario Kart, the next Mario Kart has a shot at
like getting Game of the Year. I mean, I suppose
if it's.
Speaker 1: Like got some real amazing like if it's like that
open world version that and it just nails that in
a way that no one's really nailed it before, like
so much better than Burnout Paradise, I suppose there's a chance,
but not really.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: Hoa God says, what agenda do you guys have made
up for the year? Mine? Is you convincing you guys
watching real hotwives in general? Perfectly? It's the Lake City? Yeah?
Do you have an agenda like Foba Gods has for tragic.
Speaker 1: A Catholic agenda as a yeah, of course, pushing people?
Speaker 2: Well, it's first and foremost on my mind. Yeah, we're
just taking with the Catholic agenda. Yeah, God's glitch says, hey, guys,
love your show. Wants to know if you think Sony
will keep doing State of play instead of showcase. I mean,
it really is just a matter of how much they
have to talk about and the way things are, like
how often is it gonna line up that they're gonna
have enough for a showcase right every now and then?
But it's like maybe once a year now, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's not even once a year, it's
like once every other year now. But like I said,
I think they are at least considering a showcase for
the summertime, like early summertime, you know, the traditional E
three time frame right now. No guarantee that it will happen.
It's just in the cards as they decide what the
next thing looks like. They're like on the fence about
whether it could be a showcase or a state of place.
So there's there's still a chance.
Speaker 2: You saw, you know, they Sonny how their financials recently
and they seemed surprisingly pretty good, and they talked about
you know, they didn't I don't know if they I
don't think they gave numbers but they seemed happy with
the astrobud. They're definitely happy with it winning awards. You know,
they're making a bundle for it. They say they want
to make more games targeted for kids, and they specifically say, like, yeah,
it's great that this game made by a smaller team
was able to do all of that. It's like, Okay,
you're so close to they bring it out maybe right ye,
like maybe we're right there because figuring this shit out.
But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think they're going to at least
give it a shot. A college tried to like do
that kind of thing for a while.
Speaker 2: Connell Woods says, it's fine. Mike Bungeie didn't finish Halo
too either.
Speaker 1: That's good. I like that.
Speaker 2: Mikey Oleari says, I'm mature enough to admit that I'm
just bad at the New astrobut level and accept my
thirty one point seven seven eight second run. I see
that there. Yeah, Dan's like, I beat you, beat you, guys.
I didn't even finish the last speed run things. Part
of it was like, what are you going so hard?
In those first couple of ones. I did kind of
get a little burned out and then you know, holidays happened,
things got busy. I just didn't really find time to
jump back in there, but you know, I definitely want
at at some point I'm gonna just like jump in
and do everything.
Speaker 1: It will be fun same. Uh. Yeah, it's just for me.
It's such a commitment, right. I go so hard in
these things and I want to play them so much
that it's like, oh, I'm ignoring all these other games
I should be playing. So uh. I would love to
get in there and really go hard. But we'll see.
Speaker 2: X Proph says Darwood's Paradox gives me Spider for the
PS one vibes. God, I kind of remember Spider. I
might have rented that once. It was just a game
where you played as a Spider. Huh. I just just
googled Spider to try to find this video game.
Speaker 1: You feel like Google should have known for you, like
that predictivey, I knowles?
Speaker 4: What was the results? Do you want to eat? And
do you want to eat? A Spider? Was the result
from the I will listen.
Speaker 2: Tuber says Mike and Goodwill hunting. I don't like that
Apples Apple sauce bitch. Uh, I've seen goodwill hunting. But
I see Jane saw and Bob strikes back with the
goodwill hunting to scene. See that's seen way more of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's real.
Speaker 2: RT Dano hunts is dried fruit, no juice, no squirt, yes,
no penis. I'm way more likely to drive fruit. Sure,
but I still just kind of don't right, Like I
don't have as good an excuse and wouldn't like you
wouldn't have to like bribe me to do it, like,
so you know, but I still don't want to.
Speaker 1: I bet, I bet freeze. Dried fruit would be even
better because it's got like a crunch to it. But yeah,
that's still yeah, he just doesn't like fruit, like don't
lang everybody.
Speaker 2: Music with Friends says, So Mike's in a Matchbox twenty
phase right now. What about you, Jeff? What artists have
you been listening to lately? All love for you too
in the community, Thank you music with Friends.
Speaker 1: I've been going back to some like mid two thousands
nostalgic music for me. So I mentioned this the other
day Sleepy Head, which I had a real moment with
this thing when I mentioned this on on Blue Sky Rem.
I still like that Sleepyhead song by Passion Pit, and
for me that was like a song that existed as
music I would hear on the radio and it would
be I would put it on like mixed CDs in
on my iPod and listen to it for shoot and
everyone who follows me on Blue Sky was like, oh,
you mean the Little Big Planet song. And I'm like,
I'm sorry, I just have no association with the fact
that this was the Little Big Planet song. I never
thought about it that way because it existed for me
before that. But it was cool because I'm like, oh, yeah,
I've have plenty of songs that I do feel that
way about, like I know about it because of a
video game or a commercial or a movie, and I
have a deep connection with a lot of that kind
of music. So it was interesting to see it from
that point of view of like, no, this was a
real song to me, but I'm happy that so many
of you know about it because of this commercial. But
a lot of stuff like that from that era right now,
of songs that I really went hard on back then
kind of got sick of and now I'm like, oh,
I'm an old man filled with regrets. So trying to
listen to that again.
Speaker 2: Was everybody in your high school like oddly into the
band Dispatch? Do you remember them?
Speaker 1: No song?
Speaker 2: In general, I don't think it's a very popular. It's
not a very big band. I don't know. But for
some reason, everyone my high schools into them. It's funny
because like they have like a very like world music sound,
but they're very white actually, and everybody and my pretty
white high school loved them for some reason.
Speaker 1: That's another one that very similar, Go Go Bordello. I
used to listen to them a lot, and I'm listening
to them a lot again, right now. That's that's good music.
Speaker 2: General from Dispatch does rule this pretty good song, all right?
Rick Suazo says, do you think Drake's people did the
dual Lingo Bird because of Kyle Lamars?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they killed the du Lingo.
Speaker 1: Bird for some fucking then killed Dewey or whatever the
fuck his name was.
Speaker 2: But I get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was dreat
Big Fresh that. He says, back again, Big Fresh, see
your name a lot today. Appreciate it even if you
uh did yelp me about Halo if you got to
attack him, if you can attacked me viciously Hockey of
People's History, produced by CBC apparently Watch but I'm gonna
that sounds greaty documentary that boy. Jerry says, what we
getting a Connect Blake Club game? Sin up, that's Peters backwards.
You know what sucks is that? Like there's that terrible
Hull Cogan Connect game and it would be kind of funny,
but also hul Cogan is shoot racist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but how about a front Soft game. Let's make
Dan play the Connect version of what is it?
Speaker 2: I have said?
Speaker 1: Armor Corey Steel Bastian still yeah, yeah, Steel.
Speaker 2: Bashial is so close, so close, so close. Uh yeah,
I think we're gonna make him do that for sure.
Someday that'll be very funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait to see that. So yeah, look
look for it.
Speaker 2: Maybe next up? How long is they came up? Let's
see next? As me A mean I think I said
right first, of which I think you so much? Me
and mean who says, I'm happy as long as everyone
else is happy. It's finally face thank you, me and me,
and that's very nice. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: And then B Diddy says, if you're looking for a
real entertaining hockey documentary, about the Red Wings. Check out
the Red five penis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Red five is very good about the Russian five
and how some of them like escaped Russia to come
play in the United States, or like we're considering defecting
and stuff like that. It was right as the Berlin
Wall came down and things like that. It was or
just a couple of years after that. Very very cool
stuff there. Larry on Off incredible hockey players, but there
was shit. There was another documentary. I wanted to, oh,
anything about the nineteen eighty Team USA Miracle. Miracle is
a great movie, but then go watch the documentary as well.
I Foreshoot, can not watch or read or think about
that without wanting to cry. It makes me so happy.
So yeah, that's that's good stuff.
Speaker 2: It's funny. I look back at live chat and now
don't have the super chats. I just see those people
say still but tally, it's still a toucher. I name
it for us. Yeah, to answer question in chat, we're
not talking about the game with the controller. We're talking
about the sequel. That's a connect game. You're the controller. Yeah,
and it's not supposed to be good and it.
Speaker 1: Has a controller, but it's the dashboard in the game,
and so you have to like move your hand around
and do all these switches and it's basically impossible to
play this game. Oh god, if it sounds terrible, it's
way worse than your thinking.
Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, God, I'm just not going to get
a connected and like to make sure it can't be me.
I know, my dad gave me the Wee game.
Speaker 1: For the love of God, No, my dad, am I connected.
I'm like, please just keep that for me, just away
from me. Now, bring that to my city.
Speaker 2: Get that the hell away from me.
Speaker 1: Be all caught up.
Speaker 2: I think we are. Yeah, we're all now. Thank you everybody.
If you want to send in any more super Test,
we will read them before the end of the show.
Usually do our clean up right before the end, so
keep sending them in. Thank you all so much, really
appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 1: As Mike said, we're going to take a quick break.
When we come back, it's time for who wants to
be a Mikey andare a guy prepared a quiz for
our boy Mike, who more often than not one Jeopardy.
So we're going to put him to the test here
right now, look forward to that, right after this. All right,
we're back, and as promised, who wants to be a Mikeyanair?
Previously this was you know, who wants to be a
mikey Andaire like Cohen who wants to go to Margaritaville. Mike,
I'm willing to hear like an idea for stakes if
you want, like something that you could potentially get out
of this. What are you thinking?
Speaker 2: I would like maybe for you to buy me a
new shirt on the yeddie. Oh yeah, yeah, we'd like shirt.
You could just like cash that in like you could
just say this one and okay, all right, audio listeners,
I'm wearing a new one from them right now. That's
it's a ton Bear from Foul Fantasy, but also it's
current the Frog from the Muppets, and I love it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show everybody real quick. There you go. Everyone
can see it now, them go.
Speaker 2: Oh it's good. Makes me happy?
Speaker 1: Okay, Mike. So it is who wants to be a millionaire?
Style progression. I have ten questions here. The first question
is the easiest. The tenth question, as far as I'm
able to like judge, like how difficult these things get
by the end, should be the most difficult either way,
gonna get more difficult as it goes along. For sure,
you need to get everything right, though to win, you
cannot miss one. We can do ask the audiences as
a lifeline. We could do a fifty to fifty and
we could do and for that, Christian, I might ask
you to Christian, could real quick, could you just like
write a note yourself and just do a random ABBC
D D do something like that for and you know,
I'll send you the thing right now so you can
see the right answers. All right, so you know which
one to keep. Let me do that here in discord. Uh.
And then so we'll ask the audience. And then we
could do a phone a friend if you.
Speaker 2: Want brother I think it was before hope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, phone a brother or you know, text a brother.
I don't know. We'll figure it out. Whatever is like
the least disruptive. All right, let me Christian, I'm sending
this to you just in booty boys, there you go,
let's go. Okay, Mike, are you ready to play? Who
wants to be a micy? Okay? Uh? Previously I had
sound effects. Next if we do this again, I'll bring
all that stuff back. Okay, here we are, Here we go.
First question, and as always, there will be multiple choices,
so you have a chance to, like, just guess if
you need to. What kind of creature is Sonic the hedgehog?
Is he a fox, a snake, a hedgehog or a rabbit?
Speaker 2: I believe that he is see a hedgehog?
Speaker 3: It is that?
Speaker 1: Your final answer?
Speaker 2: It's a final answer. Oh yeah, I better turned shout off.
Speaker 1: That is correct, Well done? All right? One down, nine
more to go. Question two? Which game features the phrase
do a barrel roll? Is it star Fox sixty four,
pac Man, Donkey Kong or Halo three. You don't know
a lot about Halo, so it could be in Halo.
Speaker 2: I definitely remember barrels and rolling in Donkey Kong Country.
But I have I have horrible nightmares, and in them
a animal animal that's a horrific animorphic fox is being
yelled at by a bunny to do a barrel roll.
I'll think I'm going to go star Fox sixty four.
Final answer, final answer, That is correct, Well done?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Question three? Which one of these was a launch title
for the PlayStation two? Halo three? Second three Sex the
Last of Us?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember not loving the PS two launch lineup,
and we finally got one. We had weird We had
a NASCAR game that my dad wanted. We had Dynasty
Warriors two, which that's like the first real Dynasty Warriors
because the first one is a fighting game. And even
even then it was like, I don't know if I
get this, Uh it's not in the techning game at
the launch was actually techn Tag Tournament. I remember being
very upsex I look at all the jaggies, this isn't
nearly as cool as Soul Calber and I was right,
oh yeah, yes. But SSX, the original one was for
sure there definitely got much better at the sequels, but
the first SX was a launch game.
Speaker 1: Is that your final answer could be Halo three.
Speaker 2: I don't know much about Halo, but I've got the
guess SSX final answer.
Speaker 1: That is correct. Well done, Mike Minatti. Three down. How
are you feeling so far as we begin to pump
up the difficulty after this.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling pretty good. I so far haven't been too tested,
but the questions are only going to get harder from here.
But I have all three of my lifelines still, so
that's something.
Speaker 1: All right. Question four. Which of these classic arcade games
released first? Is the answer? Pong, Space Invaders, Pac Man
or Donkey Kong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's Pong. Just a little scared.
Can you say I'm one more time?
Speaker 1: Yes? Your answers are A Pong, B, Space Invaders, C,
pac Man or D Donkey Kong. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean it's either Space Invaders or Pong, and Pong's
older than Space inverias, it's Pong. Final answer. I hate this.
I hate the pausing.
Speaker 1: He went with a Pong and that is correct. Well done,
Mike Manati.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a little scared. I'm like, I was so sure,
but you never know sometimes.
Speaker 1: All right in my table here in Google Docs. This
is the last of the medium difficulty questions questioned to it.
Question five, what is the name of seph Roth's signature sword?
Is it a Excalibur, B Buster Sword, C, Masimune or
D Ragnarok?
Speaker 2: Yeah? This one. I am a bit of a final
fan that seahead.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: The Masimune was an actual legendary sword. At least there
was an actual swords myth, or maybe just a shoot
legendary swords myth named Massimune. There's a massimine in chrono
trigger as well, this thing shows up over the place
I believe his sword is, in fact the massimune.
Speaker 1: Is that your final answer?
Speaker 2: Final answer.
Speaker 1: That is correct? Well done so far. You are halfway
through this quiz, no fault so far, and all of your.
Speaker 2: Lifelines goes pretty good.
Speaker 1: Okay, moving right along to question six. What is the
first weapon you acquire in Dark Souls if you choose
the deprived class? Is it a long sword? B, wooden club, C,
S stock D broken straight sword?
Speaker 2: Ooh, it's deaf Okay, S talk is just the flask
cause I don't gonna be that it's not a go weapon. Now,
I was almost for sure it's a club, and it
might just be a broken sword. The whole thing is
that that's the shitty class and you kind of like
start with it. I don't know if it's for a
bit of a challenge or whatever, but it's like the
you know, you're like wretched and all that stuff. God,
it could be a club, and it could be I
think if I'm between two doing a fifty to fifty here,
it might be smart, could party. It's worse to say,
could be dangerous because if I get club and a
broken sword. Well she could get nor McDonald not exactly
showing an s talk is so that's the other thing too.
But I don't think it's that. I don't think it's
that they have five questions left though, too. Party is like, well,
just guess now, and then we have three and we
could be really good to go in the future. Here
could just be a club, but it could just be
a freaking broken sword. It's definitely something shitty that you get.
I've been watching so many Challenge runs and they almost
always start with wretched. You think i'd remember, Why don't
we do the fifty to fifty?
Speaker 1: Jeff sure thing, Christian, we're doing the fifty to fifty
on this one. Yeah, can you tell me which two
to get rid of?
Speaker 3: You should get rid of? Loan sword and broken straight
sor Okay?
Speaker 1: That means Mike Manatti, here's the question. What is the
first weapon you acquire in Dark Souls? If you choose
the deprived class, your options are B Wooden Club c Estic. Sure.
Speaker 2: I hope that Estic isn't anything. I believe it's Wooden Club.
Final answer, Mike Manatti, Yes, that is correct. Okay, Okay, done,
I'm glad I got it. Man, if I just like
really gone, my instinct th could have gone without the
fifty to fifty. But that's okay. We're still in the game.
That's the important thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's better to be alive, right than to
be out of the game already with three in your
pocket that you didn't use. So that's the risk reward.
You have four questions left, right, Yes, seven, eight, nine,
and ten. The numbers got messed around because our editor
Turbo Shawn suggested I switch around seven and eight. But
this is question seven. Which game is credited with coining
the term new game Plus? Is it a Chrono trigger
b the Legend of Zelda, CE, Final Fantasy four D Earthbound.
Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting, I mean coining the phrase. I wondered
that means it has to be in it because Legend
Zuda definitely has the second quest. Not really call a
new game plus. Is it more of a metaph you know, liket,
not metaphorical but not literal? Yeah, I think it's just
Legend of Zelda. It's older than all those games, and
it has is new game plus? Really the phrase there
kind of yeah, it makes sense. I know new game
Plus Today.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't the visual for you. I would
just clarify that new Game Plus would be in quotation
marks here.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna say, Legend of Zelda.
Speaker 1: Is that your final answer?
Speaker 2: Legend of Zelda for the Nintendo Entertainment System aka the
Famicom in Japan, it's my final answer.
Speaker 1: Mike Manandi, that is incorrect. The game that coined the
term new Game plus is Chrono Trigger. It's where that
term first appeared, and it's widely accepted that that is
where that idea comes from. The Master Quest being a
follow up quest definitely was the red herring here. Yeah, okay,
not see, not technically a new game plus the way
you would think about it.
Speaker 2: Here's the problem. Like when you said, like, oh, new
Game plus is the quotations. It's funny how that has
two meanings because I'm sorry, no, it's not your fault,
but like in quotations could be so it's literally that
because we're quoting it, or it could be like ah right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, oh it's the.
Speaker 2: New Game Plus.
Speaker 1: It definitely meant like we were quoting it. Yes, the
term needs to.
Speaker 2: Be that's my problem.
Speaker 1: All right, problem, let's do let these questions anyhow, But yeah,
this is not a winning round for Mike Manatti. I
still think pretty impressive overall. And hey, let's see how
you do on the rest of these questions. Okay, yeah,
so next question is this would be question eight. What
was the first game to feature an explorable open world
in three D? Is it a Mercenary, b Outcast, ce,
Ultimate Underworld, the Stygian Abyss, or d Grand Theft Auto
three M.
Speaker 2: I think it's that Outcast is that weird PC game? Right?
I don't know if I call Ultimate Underworld an open world,
I would say Outcast is my guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this this one was one that Sean helped you with.
Apparently it is Mercenary, a nineteen eighty six video game
that had yes it like it's an old, old, old
old game. This one was gonna this was definitely a
tough one.
Speaker 2: I was going to miss that one then.
Speaker 1: So okay, when I was kind of like first putting
this together, Ultima Underworld, Estigion Abyss was like a vert
was the answer. But the question just wasn't worded correctly.
Speaker 4: So oh I got the wrong answer.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sorry, I didn't fix that in the in
the key here, Christian, Sorry that those confusing. Okay, what
is the maximum possible score in a game of Pac Man?
Here are your four options again, let me know if
you need me to repeat anything. A nine million, nine
hundred ninety nine, THOU nine ninety nine, B two hundred
and fifty six million, C three million, three hundred and
thirty three thousand, three hundred and sixty or D n
and ninety nine excuse me, nine hundred ninetynine thousand, nine
hundred ninety nine.
Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, I don't really. There's something about bits that
has to do with this, so I don't think it's
actually just the nins. It might be that I would
guess that two hundred and fifty six thousand and one
of all things, but I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that I think that's a good guess. I put
that there as a red herring because like in Zelda,
you only get two hundred fifty five coins because of
the bits, this one is actually three million, three hundred
thirty three, three hundred and sixty. Okay, And then number ten.
What was the first video game to use the term
cut scene? Is it A Bega's Battle, B Gabriel Knight,
C Maniac Mansion, D Wing Commander.
Speaker 2: Well, I thought it was b I mean for some reason,
like one of the first games I think of what
cuttings is the Ninja Guide on the nes Uh. Yeah,
I would probably just guess here and I made of
we commanders. I would have guess Wing commander.
Speaker 1: This one apparently Maniac Mansion, real first game to use
the term cut scene.
Speaker 2: Let's go Mania Mansion. I never actually have beaten main
Neck Mansion. I still thing I should fix really soon,
maybe even this weekend soon.
Speaker 1: I don't know, that'd be cool, that'd be I would
love to see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so clearly the questions got harder. I would
have fumbled anyways, I could have gotten that last, that
one right before I lost if I maybe thought cutting
off circulation.
Speaker 1: Lifelines would have helped.
Speaker 4: Yeah, lifeline. I was about to say that you should
have no, but like.
Speaker 2: For that one of Mercenary, I don't know if that
much of a lifeline would.
Speaker 1: Have helped that one. That one definitely would have been rough.
Speaker 2: Heid Mercenary kept thinking, like, you know, Mercenaries, I know
you were a game, like that's pretty old.
Speaker 1: I know, yep. And it's like me and Sean debated,
like giving you the year on that one. But they're
two different names, right, mercenary versus mercer.
Speaker 2: If I like really paid attention, I could have figured
that out.
Speaker 1: Ye hey, but I think I had a really good
time doing that, Like I really, I really think these
are fantastic. We will do more of these in the
next couple of weeks, and uh see, if Mike can't
win himself.
Speaker 2: A T shirt, that'd be great.
Speaker 1: All right, I think what we're gonna do. Now, let's
take one more quick break. We'll come right back. We'll
talk about what we've been playing. Clean up the suit,
chats to get out of here, all right, we'll be
back after this. All right, we're back, Mike. What have
you been playing other than a vout? Or if you
want to talk more about a vout? Feel free?
Speaker 2: Look less bald with this hat on? That part's fun.
Actually I wear I like this tack.
Speaker 1: I had a bald friend that would wear them all
the time. I always thought he looked really cool, and
I'm like, I'm gonna get one for myself. It's a
good look.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Jeff, I mean, it really was a
lot of a vowed and something else we can't really
talk about yet. I did like, just play a little
bit of Virtual Fighter five revo. I finally got a
code for that one. It was fun to do some
virtual fighting again. You know, three buttons, maybe that's all
you need, right, I like that so much about virtually
but there's still a ton of depth, Like it's in
a lot of ways gets more complicated than any of
the other fighting games.
Speaker 1: But I feel more confident learning the combos, Like I
just feel like, oh, I can remember this way easier.
Speaker 2: Right, And they cheat a bit because there's a lot
of like attech plus kick and plus right of course, yeah,
attack plus guard, things like that. But generally, like that
aspect of it is real too simple. It's still a
very good looking game, right, It doesn't need much help there.
I remember on PS three it was a stunner at
the time. It was just one of the best looking
games that ever came out on that console.
Speaker 1: You'll fight all those Virtual Fighter games had that, they
were always so good looking.
Speaker 2: Well, like fighting it's just kind of like well suited
for that because you know, you could put so many
of the polygons into the characters because there's just not
really that much else you have to render a lot
of the time.
Speaker 1: And you could afford like physics systems on the clothing
and stuff like that. I just remember it was a
Jackie or whoever it is in that game, his jacket
in Virtual Fighter three, like them showing that off in
screenshots and EGM and me just being like, well, that's
the future. Look at that.
Speaker 2: So you know, I definitely had a good time. More
than anything, I am very excited to see what a
new Virtua Fighter is going to look like. Uh. I'm
so glad they're working on that. I'm so glad to
say it's bringing back all these franchises in general, as
like this big company initial to where I talked about
how excited I am for Shanobe. I think that looks
absolutely fantastic. And yeah, when when we get French Fighter
six or whatever they call it, I'm gonna be diving
in pretty deep on that one. I think. Also apparently
USA is a showing Finland right now, Jeff, you'd be
happy to know.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I just I said, I'm not watching the game,
but I see the score ticker and it's gone. It's
like constantly going up to five. Now anything else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that's it. I talked about
Tales of Graces before I'll play some more of that
before next week. I wanna. I don't know if it's
happening tonight or just tomorrow, but uh, Warrior Land four
is hitting ns O. I never actually beat that one. Uh,
I could go for that. Yeah, that gam just has
one of the most powerful start screens ever right with
him and his Lowrider, his purple Lowrider. It's still freaking cool.
So it's already out, saisnitchy. I'm gonna play some Warriorland
four tonight, maybe watch Dragon Ball, Superheroes or something. I think, Yeah,
I'm a it's funny, like I'm I'm in a bit
of drag, but I'm actually like it's kind of first
these two movies I hadn't seen because I saw Battle
Gods and liked it. I saw Resurrection f liked it
a bit less. Then Brawley was awesome, and I know
Superhero is supposed to be very good too, if not
quite as good as Brawley. So and then maybe I'll
go back and watch some of the old ones that
I liked as a kid, like Tree of Might, Tree
of the Premise of Tree and Might, like Aliens are
gonna come to your planet and plant a tree that's
so big it's gonna suck all the energy out of it.
Turned it into one fruit. That's terrifying, and then you
eat the fruit and you get all of its power.
That's pretty badass. That's a good concept. I love that shit.
Speaker 1: It's like it only works in an anime cool Like, Yeah, yeah,
that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Trea Mte rolls World Strong. It's also pretty good. But
it's no Tree of Mite.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 2: I always forget I called him Turles I was watching vide.
I think it's more tur less you are, l e
s it looks like I thought he was Goku's brother
because he looks just like him. Apparently, just some other
saying it's more like Goku than Ratits does.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, every low class warrior looks like that.
Speaker 2: Apparently they say that. But then I watched Brawley and
there's plenty of sayings around. No one else looks like
Goku but Bartok. But I mean that's yeah, I mean,
trust me, I know that they're w reckconning the plot
of that show every week, So that's okay. But yeah, Jeff,
how about you? Did you play anything else?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I can say I actually just got an
email from the Sega Corporation and I can confirm that
I've been playing Like a Dragon Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii.
That's one of the other reasons i haven't had a
lot of time because I've been playing Avowed, we did
that Monster Hunter Beta that's been keeping me busy, and
then Like a Dragon Pirate Yakas in Hawaii. Can't talk
about specifics yet, but on February eighteenth, I will be
able to. I think that's going to be in time
for the BombCast. At the very least, it'll be in
time for this this show next week, so I'll talk
about it then. But I have been playing a lot,
and so you know, that's kind of a could you
a good idea of kind of where I'm at with it?
And then yeah, Kingdom Come Deliverance too. I'm still kind
of like in the beginning of like getting the adventure started.
I think it's got a fun intro. I definitely do
not dislike this game. I do. I'm like wondering how
I'm gonna feel about it once it does kind of
open up and let me start deciding like how I'm
going to approach things. My general takeaway continues to be
it is, it's hokey, it's cheesy, and none of that
is really going to spoil the experience for me, and
I think most people are gonna be like, hey, most
games are cheesy. And again, I think it's very inspired
by j RPGs. Clearly it's inspired by Western RPGs, but
this one feels even more inspired by JRPGs than the
previous one. And it's like all the stories in those
are also equally cheesy, and it's just just doing that
but in a setting that makes it all feel so
fresh and unique that it really that stuff really works.
I don't think of any I don't th get anything
I've done so far as like felt great. Like going
from the combat of a Vowed to this is it's
a massive downgrade. It's a massive downgrade in terms of
how fun it is to do the combat in this
it's you know, it's trying to be more technical, but
I don't think it's as technical as some first person
like sword fighting games that that that I've played before,
and so it's like, Okay, it's not as good as
some of those, and it's not as fun as the
you know, the best first person fighting and we've had
in in an open world RPG, so that's rough. But overall,
I think I get what people enjoy about this game
at this point, and I just need to see that, Like, Okay,
once I get to the point where the game sets
me free, what what happens then? And if I like
it at that point, then I'll probably really stick with it.
Until then though, it's like, well, okay, this is dragged
on for quite some time. I kind of need to
see the rest of this for myself to really decide.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely do need to see what's up with it,
just to kind of have an opinion, which is an
idea of like, okay, like this is I don't want
to sound like somebody's mom. I want to see what
the kids are into, right, there's a little bit of that, like, man,
people seem to really like this, so let's see what's
going on.
Speaker 1: Yep, it was Yeah, I think, uh, you know, number
one on the list right now is avowed that's the
one I want to I want to actually see that
through and beat the game. I'm hearing it takes about
fifty hours, so it's going to be a commitment. But
I've been playing quite a bit, so.
Speaker 2: That's that's part of the things. It's like, it's like
before it came out, when people are like, oh, it's
not going to be that big, and I'm like, uh,
it's pretty big, and I don't know, didn't get any
points for that.
Speaker 1: I guess yeah. No, yeah, a lot of like a
lot of the conversations about this game beforehand no longer
apply and it's like, no, it does all that stuff
you're worried about really well, it's like, well we found
new stuff, Like god, damn it, what's happening? Why don't
people like this game? All right? That's it for me though.
It's been a lot of playing the games that we
knew would be coming out this month and then keeping
them keeping me busy. Uh and those have been hitting
so far, which has been excellent.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Okay, mikey, why don't we clean up those super chats
and then we'll get out of here right right?
Speaker 2: Yes, super Chats? Did we get anymore?
Speaker 1: We got it. We've definitely got a couple more.
Speaker 2: I think I'm loading them right now. But yes, from
Philip Rodriguez is set a super chat with no message,
But thank you so much, Philip. I appreciate it. Phil
Tuber says all Mike's dragon Ball takes are fully correct.
Thank you Tuber. Yeah, I tweeted I wanted to skeat
this right after I watched the Brawley movie. At the time,
was like, I don't know if I can say this,
and then the next day found the courage just be like,
all right, this is one of the nerdier things I skated.
But Gogeta is way better than vegetorect terms of the
fusions of those characters. Yeah, decide for myself. Yeah, Veginta's
not even a good combination of those names, like what
Goku gets one letter that whole transaction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Vegeto sounds like a weird spread from Australia.
Speaker 2: And they made Brawley such a good character in that movie.
Speaker 1: That looks great.
Speaker 2: That looks great. I also just like the fusion dance
more than the ear rings dance is fun. Usual dance
is fun. Next one, here's from Alk Grugs's Yellow Beanie
slash Hats for Gay Mess Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: That's right, it's our new thing.
Speaker 2: I thought it would be too hot wearing this indoors.
I actually feel not too bad with it. So this
could just be my Look now, who knows?
Speaker 1: I like it? You look fantastic? Anything else from the
super chat bucket.
Speaker 2: It looks like we are all caught up.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, in that case, I've hit the button.
Speaker 2: Producers how to vote always be corky says, oh oh
oh for oh, that's why they're doing their own go
Jeta Vegta.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Tell me the results always. I don't know where to look.
What's up?
Speaker 1: They're having a big conversation about it in podcast producers.
Oh yeah, all right, Mike Minatti, where can people find
you on the internet?
Speaker 2: Go Geta was in Fusion, Reborn and Brawley, like two
of the best movies. I don't even know what leg
Vegeto has to stand on. You can find me Blue
Sky as Tolkoto streaming on twitch dot tv as Tolkota.
Check out nineties Disney dot com. Believe AGI's working on
a new site that might be up. Uh now, yeah,
I believe it is, So check out our new site
at nineties Disney dot com. Check out our old shows
as we get ready for new ones.
Speaker 1: I'm glad. It's like I don't love the idea of
there's two ways to fuse characters. But I prefer that then, like, hey,
we're gonna take turns deciding who's gonna be the dominant
one in our fusion. So this time when we do
our fusion dance, I'm good with we're gonna be go
geta instead of vegeto because I'm gonna be weird.
Speaker 2: So so it doesn't work like that the fusion dance
always go geto.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, I prefer that. That's the way it works.
Like that's exactly. Yes, So, uh cool earrings are It's weird.
It's just weird, all right. I work for a CYC
called Giant Bomb. We I do a more news show
game US Mornings. You can tune in for that tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Did Gito won the fan of the podcast producer's vote
by one vote?
Speaker 1: Yeah they're wrong, you know they did, And that was
just someone trying to make you mad, right come on?
Speaker 2: Oh right, Yeah, I don't get quits mad about anime
takes this video game once because I sound like bag
but like, I know I'm right when it comes to.
Speaker 1: That. Is like ninety percent of this show is just
me and you go by it's my opinion, and I
know i'm right. I don't get why everyone has understand
how right we are. You're doing this for thirty five
years now, I think I know what I'm talking about.
Credits for watching everybody. We're gonna got out of here
to the next time. I have a good one. Take
care of yourself and goodbye.
Speaker 2: You ever say something and really regret it?
Speaker 1: Ever? So long? All right, great, all right, good deal.
Uh let me see here. I'm gonna make sure I
have that ready to go.
Speaker 2: We'll have a break before we do it.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's right. I just want to make sure I
have the doc open. I do there, it is okay. Uh,
I'll bring this back in if you are ready.
Speaker 2: Mike, did you get that hat at Target? I don't remember,
remember the same hat I just got went their hat
recently and it looks almost exactly like that.
Speaker 1: Very frequently get my clothing apparel from Targets, so it
seems it seems quite likely.
Speaker 2: We'll see I'm ready, Yeah, okay, cool.
Speaker 1: And I will bring it in. All right? Break yep,
sounds good. I will get it going here in a
second Christian. Back when I used to do this, there
was did I use like a who wants to be
a millionaire like website that would have like the questions
and the sounds and all that. I didn't do that
this time, but if I do, I'm gonna do that again.
If we do this again, yes, because I forgot to
do that. I think I had like the sound effects
and everything. Ye yeah, okay, well next time, everybody.
Speaker 4: Remember it broke. Probably I think it sounds familiar.
Speaker 1: Either that broke or I think maybe we tried to
play the PC Steam release of Who Wants to Be
a Millionaire for shoot, and I think that.
Speaker 4: I think was y. I think we try to do
that and then you find that site.
Speaker 1: Ye, Shawn, I got the edits, Thank you very much,
very helpful. Send it to Sean for fact checking everybody.
So if there's anything wrong, you got not me covered
my ass.
Speaker 3: I had nothing to do with this, So if it
goes south, it's no more fault either.
Speaker 1: Christians completely home free, Scott free. There, let's go all right,
let's see here.
Speaker 3: Just there's a conversation going on in the podcast producer
channel or discord about who is cooler Vegito or go
geta and.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm, I'm, I'm I'm a mix side.
Speaker 3: Mike said that Gogitta is so much cooler than Begeto,
and yes he's right. He says he's a nerve but
he's right.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I did not watch a lot long enough
to discover Begito is a budgeto.
Speaker 3: Vegito is a fusion betwe in Vegeta and Goku. It
has that name because he's using ear rings to fuse.
Go Gita is the same fusion, but they do in
the dance to fuse, So there are two different characters
even though they're the same people fuse.
Speaker 1: But the Okay, so is the bad is the battle
between Vegeto and go Jeta. Yes, who is who's cooler? Okay?
I think watch a lot of Dragon Ball and I'll
come back and I will desclare the winner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that movie is so good because he
has moments that that movie has no right to be
that good, because in a moment he has this this
character like deep moment of the Godjetta being like, I'm
just having fun in this fight because these two that
are talking about Goku and Vegeta, these two are becoming
too powerful and eventually they won't need me anymore, so
I'm going to disappear.
Speaker 4: It's like, whoaly ship?
Speaker 1: What what is this like?
Speaker 3: Character that shows like once in a while has this
like deep thought about his existence.
Speaker 1: It's like.
Speaker 2: This is a show.
Speaker 1: Watch that movie.
Speaker 4: Watch the movie is great. I love that movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I love dragon Ball. I started watching dragon
Ball Z with the kids and they were really into it.
They were really you bring it back? They could. They
should be the exactly same, but pretty close. Maybe the
color grading, I don't know. I don't know if it's
actually or could be it. I think that this one
doesn't quite quite match as well, I think, but they're
very close close. Sing good what you do? I like
Brian Carrols and chat just going come on now, yellow yellow,
I'm matching, all right.
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like a keebler el or something.
Speaker 1: All Right, Mike, I don't have any visuals for you,
so if you need me to repeat anything, just let
me know. Okay, I'll get all.
Speaker 4: Right, I'll bring this all right, bring it back.
Speaker 1: All right? Cool? All right, you guys, you need any break,
You're ready to go, all right,