WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:06.400 It's time for Coffee and Company. 2 00:00:06.639 --> 00:00:11.400 Fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety Holy crap. 3 00:00:11.160 --> 00:00:13.240 I don't know who the hell we think when we are. 4 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:15.560 Get off our show, idiot. 5 00:00:15.759 --> 00:00:17.160 The kids are crying or turning off. 6 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:20.399 The countries are screwing it up. Gold Play Intermurals, Brother, 7 00:00:20.600 --> 00:00:24.359 gold Play inter Murals. They're supposed to be mature adults, 8 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:28.280 but they're really not. Who's the kid here? Who's the 9 00:00:28.399 --> 00:00:44.039 kid here? Are you kidding me? Now? Here's Nick Coffee. 10 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:51.799 So I started the show yesterday and I made a 11 00:00:51.799 --> 00:00:54.600 prediction and the prediction came true. Actually, I mean it 12 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:57.119 wasn't a bold prediction, but my prediction was that by 13 00:00:57.159 --> 00:00:58.759 the time we get out of here, which was a 14 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:02.920 little early, he was our our our wrap up because 15 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:05.680 we had bats game. But with it being the deadline 16 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:08.319 day for the portal, you had until I guess midnight 17 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:10.480 last night to end of the transfer portal. I just 18 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:12.640 assumed that in that two and a half window of 19 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:15.680 time there would be at least one notable player in 20 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:17.799 college basketball that would hit the portal that would have 21 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:22.439 everybody feel in some way. Right Either you were thinking, Okay, 22 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:24.079 let's see if we can round up some money, it'd 23 00:01:24.079 --> 00:01:26.439 be great to go get this guy because he's special, 24 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:29.879 or you were like, damn, we should have waited before 25 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:32.560 we took some guys because you know, now at the 26 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:35.480 last minute, there's a really good player and we're full. 27 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:38.359 So again, I think it's safe to say that that 28 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:41.079 did come true because I think Boogie Flann leaving Arkansas 29 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:43.760 was in fact a big addition to the portal because 30 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:45.840 you know, he was a really good freshman until he 31 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:47.879 got hurt and was the number one point guard in 32 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:52.760 his class. So as we discussed the process of the portal, 33 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:55.640 just how you know, because with Caseon we got the 34 00:01:55.640 --> 00:01:58.359 good news yesterday. Caseon Pryor made it official at least 35 00:01:58.359 --> 00:02:00.799 by letting Louisville fans know. I mean, I guess he 36 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:02.519 was never not a part of the program. He never 37 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:05.200 hit the portal, but he did announce he was coming back, 38 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:07.359 and that was good news. But you know, if he 39 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:09.639 was gonna hit the portal, we were talking about sort 40 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:10.680 of how that works, right. 41 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:12.039 Like do you do you do it? 42 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:15.199 I mean, because you don't do it instantaneously as a 43 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:19.159 student athlete. You have to let compliance officers know that 44 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:22.000 you know you're you're you know you're entering the portal, 45 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:24.400 and I guess they technically do it for you, per 46 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:27.919 like the NC doublea actual portal website, if it's even 47 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:31.599 a thing. So I kind of thought we were done 48 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:35.120 talking about additions to the portal because you know it's over. 49 00:02:35.319 --> 00:02:39.560 But I guess yesterday at some point there were two 50 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:43.319 players that made it official, and we didn't get news 51 00:02:43.400 --> 00:02:45.919 about the Louisville player that didn't entered the portal until 52 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:48.319 this morning. At least I didn't. Maybe somebody had it 53 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:50.719 last night. It was out there. I was up pretty late, 54 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:53.479 well not super late, but I feel like the news 55 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:56.159 broke this morning that James Scott has decided that he 56 00:02:56.199 --> 00:02:59.400 will enter the portal and move on, at least we 57 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:01.800 think he will. I mean, usually if you enter the 58 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:05.159 portal and you do it this late in the game 59 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:09.439 deadline day and really don't communicate seemingly with a lot 60 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:11.120 of people that you're gonna do it, I mean, it 61 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:15.439 seems as if it's it's done, meaning you're gone. 62 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:17.439 However, I guess there's a chance. 63 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:20.319 That maybe he could be persuaded to stay, if in 64 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:22.159 fact the staff does try to keep him around. But 65 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:24.599 that's the big news. We'll certainly talk about today. James Scott. 66 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:29.000 To me, he is the ultimate example of someone that 67 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:33.400 were well, he's the example that you really just should 68 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:35.639 never be surprised by anyone. I mean, it wasn't as 69 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:38.039 if James Scott, you know, is a three year first 70 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:39.879 team All American or anything like that. It's not like 71 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:42.400 he's from Louisville. But I mean he has a close 72 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:45.280 connection to Pat Kelsey in a way that most didn't 73 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:47.120 last year. I mean, he's one of two guys I 74 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:49.719 guess three technically that Pat brought with him from Charleston, 75 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:53.439 and there's just something it's almost like there's a hesitation 76 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:57.439 to start talking about how much he loves coaching James 77 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:00.120 Scott because Pat Kelcey. I mean, I feel like those 78 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:03.479 two were like a perfect combination. So tough news, no doubt, 79 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:04.960 not the end of the world, and we'll certainly talk 80 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:07.039 about it. And then on the Kentucky side, this is 81 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:08.520 not a player that I think they're really going to 82 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:11.120 miss because they didn't really get a whole lot last year. 83 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:14.840 But it is a Kentucky a Kentucky native, and that's 84 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:17.160 Travis Perry. Same thing with him. I don't know when 85 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:19.879 he hit the portal, I don't think he announced it. 86 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:21.600 I don't think there was any kind of an announcement. 87 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:23.839 It just I guess news broke. Somebody got the story, 88 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:26.160 shared it, and again it was confirmed. 89 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:27.319 I'm very interested. 90 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:29.560 I'm sure nobody else is, but I'm interested in sort 91 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:34.480 of how how you figure it out. Meaning if like, 92 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:40.120 if you don't announce anything as a player, and you 93 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:45.839 don't tell anybody and your staff that you're leaving, you know, 94 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:48.000 they don't tell anybody because they you know, maybe they 95 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:49.680 just don't want to or they don't want it out there. 96 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:52.160 I don't know, I mean, would anybody know, Like I 97 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:55.000 guess if you are a like who has access to 98 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:58.839 actually look at said portal and see who is in 99 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:02.040 you know, the database. And I don't know why that 100 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:03.920 interests me. It's really not that interesting at all. But 101 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:09.279 the overall process here is kind of you know, news 102 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:12.120 breaks sometimes guys that mean, sometimes players want to announce 103 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:15.600 it because they want people to know, hey, I'm available, 104 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:18.879 give me a call, check me out, that kind of stuff. 105 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:21.600 But I don't think that's what happened with either Travis 106 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:24.519 Perry or James Scott. But again we'll certainly get into 107 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:26.560 that today and a lot more. It is Coffee and 108 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:29.120 Company and we are field By Thornton's here on Sports 109 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:31.480 Talk seven to ninety. Appreciate you guys hanging out with us. 110 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:35.040 We will take you up until six o'clock myself. That's 111 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:37.279 me Nick Coffee. Hope you knew that. If not, now 112 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:40.079 you do. Austin Montgomery, the travel Cheap is back with us. 113 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:40.920 How was mich Lennox? 114 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:41.399 Yesterday? 115 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:44.240 Was great? I forget how much I loved that place. 116 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:45.399 Every time I go back. 117 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:48.800 It's a rare spot that I really don't think there's 118 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:51.319 a comparison. And what I mean by that is you 119 00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:54.279 know the you know I've never gone there and eaten inside, 120 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:56.120 have you? I mean maybe you guys did yesterday. I 121 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:58.439 know because a lot of you know they have spots 122 00:05:58.480 --> 00:06:00.600 where you can eat inside. Yes, and we are open, 123 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:03.839 not like in the brutal winter months, but they are 124 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:05.800 open at times where you really don't know what you're 125 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:08.160 going to get weatherwise, meaning you wouldn't you might want 126 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:12.920 to be indoors, but just the outside dining, I don't know, 127 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:14.879 just it's it's it almost feels like you're you're in 128 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:19.120 somebody's back patio in a neighborhood. It's far far, far 129 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:22.439 far south end. I guess that would be considered south right, 130 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:23.720 like southwest, I guess. 131 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:24.959 Yeah. 132 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:28.199 So, uh, I just can't think of any place like it. 133 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:29.839 It's been around for a long long time. And of 134 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:33.519 course they've got you know, great food, good atmosphere, and yeah, 135 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:35.439 sounds like we had a good event last night, right. 136 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:37.759 Yeah, it was good. Even your boy even sold some 137 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:40.600 tickets at the door. Nice about that. How about a 138 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:42.680 couple of people showing up late and how do I 139 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:44.920 how do I get me a ticket? Went and showed 140 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:45.680 them how to do it. 141 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:45.879 Well. 142 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:48.160 Shout out to to our guy Joe who has put 143 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:50.480 I think he put this whole thing together years ago, 144 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:53.639 and now we've been doing it anyually behind and it 145 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:55.639 seems to get more and more popular every year. 146 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:56.560 And I really don't think. 147 00:06:56.439 --> 00:06:58.720 There could be a better location to have it than, 148 00:06:58.800 --> 00:06:59.959 uh than Mike Lenning. 149 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:02.399 So yeah, it was a dude in the weather yesterday, 150 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:05.040 amazing perfect day to work at Mike Lea. 151 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:09.120 I mean, yesterday might have been and I know I've 152 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:11.800 said this before in other days, but yesterday, especially like 153 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:15.199 during the day, like you know, probably between like I 154 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:18.160 don't know, two o'clock to six o'clock. I mean, it 155 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:21.240 was absolutely perfect outside. Could not get much better. 156 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:22.839 I listened to the start of the show when I 157 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:25.120 heard you talk about it, when you're said, I'd rather 158 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:27.720 be outside, right, Yeah, And I sat and you looked 159 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:31.000 around and I said, look at me, I'm outside right now. 160 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:34.639 It was it was awesome. I know, I know you're 161 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:38.800 probably not going to get too too much into a Derby. Uh, 162 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:41.120 probably like between a couple of days before, because I 163 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:44.079 know you say the Derby kind of messages sometimes. 164 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:47.439 But I got a lot, you got some good, got 165 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:48.279 a lot of stuff. 166 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:52.439 Oh, Jody Demmling, I gut Joe Chris effect right. 167 00:07:52.279 --> 00:07:53.519 He was on the st last week. 168 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:56.439 Uh, dude. They were locked in answering questions. They were 169 00:07:56.439 --> 00:08:00.199 watching the Arkansas Derby, Santa and Nita Derby and just 170 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:02.160 break down horse by horse Man. 171 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:03.959 Yeah, they were in their bag. That's what they do. 172 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:07.839 I mean, And I missed you yesterday, but I'm glad 173 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:09.639 you're back. And I'm also glad you come now back 174 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:11.600 to the show with some knowledge about the big. 175 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:12.360 Race coming up. Right. 176 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:15.040 I have a few marked down good stuff. We'll certainly 177 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:16.360 get into it. We got all a week to do 178 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:18.680 that next week, and I'm looking forward to you and 179 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:21.360 I having some fun with Derby because yeah, you know, 180 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:24.560 I like to not talk about the actual, you know, 181 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:26.439 sport of horse racing a whole lot, because honestly, it's 182 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:28.199 just not something I know a whole lot about. But 183 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:30.279 there's so much that can be done when it comes 184 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:32.759 to a three hour daily radio show with everything that 185 00:08:32.879 --> 00:08:37.399 is the Kentucky Derby experience, Derby Season, Derby Week, and 186 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:38.919 we'll certainly have some fun with that. 187 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:39.679 But I can't wait. 188 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:40.279 Yeah, me too. 189 00:08:40.279 --> 00:08:41.799 I don't into each other at Coles again? 190 00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:43.240 Is that last year? 191 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:44.039 That was last year? 192 00:08:44.279 --> 00:08:44.480 Gosh? 193 00:08:44.519 --> 00:08:45.919 Why does that feel like that was ten years ago? 194 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:47.519 It really feels like forever ago. 195 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:49.240 It also feels like you and I have been on 196 00:08:49.279 --> 00:08:51.519 this show together for years and it really hasn't even 197 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:52.200 been that long at all. 198 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:54.200 No, I thought I was only one feeling. 199 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:55.480 I mean, what it was it four or five months 200 00:08:55.559 --> 00:08:55.960 or something like that. 201 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:57.960 I would say since November, I think. 202 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:01.440 I have really really lost the ability to to get 203 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:03.159 a feel for I mean, look, time is the same, 204 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:05.080 it never changes, right every hour as an hour. 205 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:05.720 We all know that. 206 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:09.919 But obviously you know, certain things feel way longer ago 207 00:09:10.039 --> 00:09:13.480 than you know they should, or vice versa. I'm you know, 208 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:14.919 we'll move on, trust me. I want to make this 209 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:17.399 a longer conversation. But I'm kind of I'm spinning my 210 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:18.279 wheels here because I'm not. 211 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:19.159 I swear to you. 212 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:21.840 I feel like there's no there's no chance that we've 213 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:24.840 only done this show together since December. I know, I 214 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:27.519 feel like it's been years. I don't know why. I 215 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:29.799 guess that's a good thing, right, Like we're having fun. Yeah, 216 00:09:29.799 --> 00:09:32.240 and it's you know, it's been great. I was fill 217 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:34.200 in part time for a while. I was always in 218 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:34.679 the bullpas. 219 00:09:34.759 --> 00:09:35.080 That's true. 220 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:36.240 That's probably an aspect of it. 221 00:09:36.279 --> 00:09:38.360 And really, you know, there'd be times where you were 222 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:40.720 pretty regular if if you know, John was on vacation, 223 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:43.320 that kind of stuff. But yeah, our first derby together 224 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:44.639 should be should be a lot of fun. 225 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:46.960 It's gonna I can't wait. Just hope the weather's nice. 226 00:09:47.039 --> 00:09:47.360 Me too. 227 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:49.000 I'm with you, all right, so don't forget. You could 228 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:50.720 take us with you wherever you go. Listen live on 229 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:52.799 the Aheart Radio app. Also listen live at seven ninety 230 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:54.919 Louisville dot com, and if you've got some thoughts on 231 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:58.039 this news in regards to James Scott or the news 232 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:01.799 in regards to Travis Perry. Again, I think the reaction 233 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:04.799 from fans if it's I mean, I doubt many people 234 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:08.159 are like celebrating because, you know, even if you feel 235 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:11.600 good about your team, regardless of James Scott not being 236 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:13.720 a part of Louisville or Travis Perry not being a 237 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:15.480 part of Kentucky, I mean, it's not really something you 238 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:17.919 would be like happy about. So you know, if you 239 00:10:17.960 --> 00:10:19.399 do have some thoughts on it, we'll let you guys 240 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:22.279 react coming up here after this first segment, but and 241 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:23.480 we'll let you know how to do that coming up 242 00:10:23.480 --> 00:10:26.000 as well. But let's just when it comes to James Scott, 243 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:31.440 of all players on the Louisville roster that were you know, 244 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:33.720 that were in this position to come back, right, they 245 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:37.120 weren't going to run out of eligibility, certainly wasn't weren't 246 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:39.600 going to go to the NBA. James Scott is honestly 247 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:42.080 the one player that I thought there would be no 248 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:44.279 scenario that he would enter the portal. There would be 249 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:48.080 no scenario that he would leave. And it's not because 250 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:51.320 he wouldn't have options. It's not because you know, I 251 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:53.399 felt like he was going to be making insane money 252 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:54.600 here that he couldn't get elsewhere. 253 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:56.600 It's just because of Pat Kelsey. 254 00:10:57.159 --> 00:10:59.440 And I just mentioned a moment ago and I think 255 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:03.679 everybody knows this, but James came with Pat from Charleston, 256 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:07.279 just like Rain Smith and obviously the other the other 257 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:10.159 transfer from Charleston that came in play last year, it's 258 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:15.279 Kobe Rogers. So James was somebody that Charleston felt pretty 259 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:17.840 lucky about getting whenever. You know, they recruited him out 260 00:11:17.840 --> 00:11:19.639 of high school, a guy who didn't have a whole 261 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:22.519 lot of pub as far as a recruit, but you know, 262 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:26.240 he had a lot of ability, raw upside potentially, you know, 263 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:28.639 all those buzzwords you hear about somebody that could potentially 264 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:29.679 be really really good. 265 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:31.559 And I think they saw that. 266 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:35.320 They I don't really know who James picked Charleston over, 267 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:38.559 but he is in that area, the Carolinas, and you know, 268 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:41.879 as a freshman he showed a lot of upside and 269 00:11:42.039 --> 00:11:45.039 at Louisville, I mean he he was a big factor 270 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:47.840 in why Louisville was able to put together an eighteen 271 00:11:47.879 --> 00:11:51.879 and two season in the ACC and also, you know 272 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:54.480 it was at eighteen two, seventeen and three. I think 273 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:56.919 it was eighteen and two, wasn't it? Or am I crazy? 274 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:01.519 I think it was Either way, Louis ended up with 275 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:04.480 having some terrible injuries that that at the time you 276 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:07.080 felt like we're going to be brutal, that you just 277 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:08.879 really weren't gonna be able to recover from and have 278 00:12:08.960 --> 00:12:11.320 any type of success. And we were totally wrong. And look, 279 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:13.320 I'm not saying James Scott was the biggest factor in that, 280 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:14.720 but certainly he was. 281 00:12:14.919 --> 00:12:17.399 He was a factor. He was a part of that. 282 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:22.879 And I just again for me, he's he's And I'm 283 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.000 sure it'll change moving forward, because you know this, this 284 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:26.879 this new world is. 285 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:27.919 Here to stay. 286 00:12:27.919 --> 00:12:30.240 We're not going to have a situation where players can't 287 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:32.519 transfer anymore. You may end up having like a cap 288 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:35.559 on nil. There may be some some some regulations, but 289 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:37.559 as far as players just being able to go where 290 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:39.399 they want to go, I don't see a scenario where 291 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:41.519 the NC double A is gonna win in court where 292 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:44.120 they're gonna they're gonna be able to keep players from 293 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:47.440 attending whatever school they want to attend. So maybe there'll 294 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:50.879 be a better example, moving forward. But to me, James 295 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:53.840 Scott leaving is like, okay, well, now you never never 296 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:57.000 assume anybody is just for sure going to stick around 297 00:12:57.000 --> 00:12:59.679 for a long time. Because Pat Kelsey and James Scott, 298 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:01.799 I mean what I mean, they were like a perfect match. 299 00:13:02.120 --> 00:13:04.600 I mean, I think Pat Kelsey enjoys coaching every player, 300 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:06.559 you know. I mean, I don't think that guys just 301 00:13:06.679 --> 00:13:11.000 end up here without him doing a good vetting as 302 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:13.639 far as do they fit not only the style that 303 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:15.360 I want to play, but can they fit the culture? 304 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:18.480 Can they fit the system? Are they you know? Are 305 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:19.240 they selfless? 306 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:19.960 Right? 307 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:23.759 I mean I think sometimes it does, you know, get 308 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:26.000 a little corny when you when you I mean it's 309 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:27.600 not corny to those guys in the locker room. I mean 310 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:28.879 that's part of the process. But for us, you know, 311 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:30.840 we just sat here and talked about, you know, the 312 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:34.000 culture and trusting one another and loving one another. I 313 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:35.840 mean that's you know, I get it, but it is 314 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:38.639 it is. I mean, it matters, and I think James 315 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:42.399 Scott was almost like a guy that was created in 316 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:46.120 a laboratory as far as having everything Pat Kelsey wants 317 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:49.120 about being a guy in his system and I'm not 318 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:51.879 talking about what he does as a player. I'm talking about, 319 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:55.919 you know, his selflessness and the fact that he gives 320 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:59.519 you every single thing that he has he at times. 321 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:00.960 I mean, and this is one of the things that 322 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:03.840 stood out about James Scott this year for me, among 323 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:07.440 many things, was that I noticed more than anybody else 324 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:11.039 he would tell the bench he needs a break. And 325 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:14.759 you know that's not that rare and not but it's 326 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:16.559 not because he's out of shape. It's because he literally 327 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:21.360 gives you every single thing that he has. And you know, 328 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:24.279 it's been I've been kind of surprised, but I guess 329 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:27.679 I shouldn't be surprised to see some people acting as 330 00:14:27.720 --> 00:14:30.080 if like it it's no big deal and it's not 331 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:32.039 the end of the world. James Scott. You can replace 332 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:35.720 his production, trust me. But that's one of the things 333 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:37.559 I don't really like about the New World in the portal. 334 00:14:38.039 --> 00:14:39.360 If you listen to me just a little bit, I 335 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:41.000 think you probably are aware that I think this has 336 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:43.480 been great for college basketball more so than any other sport. 337 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:48.200 Free agency and in il money, those two things have 338 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:52.240 improved college basketball. I think in a major way. You 339 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:55.559 can quickly make a big jump from one year or 340 00:14:55.559 --> 00:14:57.559 the other. We learned that with Louisville last year, right, 341 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:00.000 because guys can just you know, you can build a 342 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:03.600 team from scratch with the portal, and because of nil, 343 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:06.559 players stick around in college way more than they ever 344 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:06.960 used to. 345 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:08.360 So it's great. 346 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:09.720 But one thing I don't like is that when a 347 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:13.360 player does leave, I guess technically it's still considered if 348 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:15.519 you're a fan, like he got dumped, right, like you 349 00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:19.279 got James Scott broke up with Louisville, And I guess 350 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:21.759 that's how we're probably always going to see it because 351 00:15:21.799 --> 00:15:26.440 just despite this now being job a job, I mean this, 352 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:28.519 if you're in college, but if you're in college for 353 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:30.639 four years, you know, some guys play five or six now, 354 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:34.080 but like it's now a job, you have a chance 355 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:36.679 to make more money. And I believe this, by the way, 356 00:15:36.720 --> 00:15:39.399 I can't prove it. I believe that about ninety eight 357 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:43.519 percent of college basketball players will make substantially more money 358 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:46.720 playing the game in college than they ever will playing 359 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:50.039 anywhere else. So when you've got four years to really 360 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:55.320 take advantage of that, I mean, you gotta look out 361 00:15:55.320 --> 00:16:01.720 for yourself, and you know it's not personal, it's transactional. 362 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:04.320 That's all this is now. And if you've got to 363 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:07.440 bounce from team to team, maybe play for four different 364 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:09.879 teams in four years, because that was the best scenario 365 00:16:09.960 --> 00:16:14.120 for you to stack up a bunch of money to 366 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:17.080 you know, to start your life post basketball in a 367 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:21.080 really good situation financially, Like, there's nothing wrong with doing that. 368 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:25.240 So again, it's all transactional. And what's crazy is that 369 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:27.919 with coaches it's always been right. We would like tell ourselves, now, 370 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:30.960 he loves it here, you know, this is home now. No, 371 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:33.879 if the coach has got a chance to go get 372 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:37.440 a better job with better resources, making more money, climbing 373 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:39.600 the ladder in his industry, they're gonna do that more 374 00:16:39.639 --> 00:16:42.960 often than not. Well, now, players are it's transactional. So 375 00:16:43.799 --> 00:16:45.840 as much as I think a lot of us, myself included, 376 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:50.320 kind of have accepted that, I think because we are 377 00:16:50.519 --> 00:16:53.200 fanatics and this is our program that we care so 378 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:57.399 much about, there's gonna be you know, that awkwardness about 379 00:16:57.399 --> 00:16:59.399 you know, we get it if James and I don't 380 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:01.679 even know this specifics of James's situation, and we'll get 381 00:17:01.679 --> 00:17:03.240 into it. I mean, I think I have a good 382 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:04.640 idea as far as what played out here, and we'll 383 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:08.400 certainly get into that, but nobody else would be like 384 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:15.839 realistically shamed or I guess, I mean, I just don't 385 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:17.480 know how you could look at somebody who left a 386 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:21.400 job to get a better job, making more money, in 387 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:24.240 putting their family in a better situation. Like in what 388 00:17:24.279 --> 00:17:26.119 world would you look at somebody as if they've done 389 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:27.519 something wrong or they've wronged you? 390 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:28.119 You wouldn't. 391 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:33.839 But because for generations this wasn't a thing in college sports, 392 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:37.359 like there's going to be a process, So you know, 393 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:40.240 we should never be we should never be surprised really 394 00:17:40.279 --> 00:17:43.400 with anybody leaving. And I think there's a couple of 395 00:17:43.400 --> 00:17:45.559 factors here when it comes to James Scott as far 396 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:50.599 as you know, money, I also think playing town was 397 00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:55.400 probably somewhat of a factor. And again I don't want 398 00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:56.519 to get into it now because we've got to get 399 00:17:56.519 --> 00:17:58.279 to our first break coming up here. But to me, 400 00:17:58.319 --> 00:18:01.160 there's like three or four things that I want to 401 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:03.039