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Speaker 1: The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big

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Fight Weekend.

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Speaker 2: Now here is your host, TJ. Leaves. All right, we

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are ready to go with yet another weekend. Gotta tell

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you upfront, this is not a huge weekend of action,

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although we do have something to preview on the preview pod.

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We have fight news and a lot of undercards being

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announced and other news about fight cards in Japan, etc.

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That we're gonna get to, some great nostalgia and much more.

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Plenty of reason to be here, if for nothing else,

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A charming personality of one Dan Rayfield. I'm merely TJ. Reeves.

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Thank you for finding us. It is the Big Fight

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Weekend Preview follow Subscribe, Apple, Spreaker, Spotify. We come your

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way twice a week, previewing going into the weekend. Recap

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off the weekend. All right, the good news before we

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get into Floyd Mayweather and John Gotti. The third because

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I know you're winning with Beta breath, the proof of life.

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Rayfield is alive. After five days of mister mom with

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Little rayfeel missus. Rayfield has returned. When last week left,

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the fire department had been contacted but had not shown

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up on a false fire alarm. I did get a

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couple of people that reached out to say, we need

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an update on whether Rayfield has survived. This is proof

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of life on the pod that you did survive, being

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mister mom, congratulations.

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Speaker 1: I did survive, thank thankfully, and yes, the fire alarm

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did happen, and thankfully nothing actually was burning down.

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Speaker 2: False alarm.

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Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't a false alarm. There was something that

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burned up in my microwave or something that my son

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set on fire by accident, and it's made the thing

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go off, but and it's attached to the alarm, so they.

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Speaker 2: And the best part is missus Rayfield is out of town,

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out of state at a work event, and she's being

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alerted on the phone because you have connected to all

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your phones that the Far department in the South we

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offer and say far the Far Department. The Far Department

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has been called and she's probably looking at the phone

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going not the fire truck but another F word that

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ends with a K, what w TF. I can't leave

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for a day in the house exactly.

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Speaker 1: So even though it was my son that's said maybe

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setting the house on fire, Dad's the one that's in

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trouble with the wife and I didn't do anything, you know,

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I understand, mind my business.

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Speaker 2: We make it to the first day of school and back.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're good. We were he you survive.

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Speaker 2: He bathed at least once in the five days or showered,

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so that's good.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, we're good. All right.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, my sixteen year olds did pass

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the driving test. And as we speak, as we tape

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the podcast Thursday night into Friday, they have driven by

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themselves to and from an errand that they had to run.

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Let the mayhem begin. What you phil, You're going to

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be here in a few years, You're going to be here.

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Get ready. This is going on times two in my house.

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Speaker 1: And I let's take our minds off that and discuss.

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Speaker 2: Can we talk boxing, Let's do that. Let's get into it,

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all right. I qualify this by saying, if the name

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was not Floyd Mayweather, I don't even know if this

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would be making the show under the celebrity boxing category

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or whatever. But we don't have a lot going on.

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It leads the pod in the preview mode, go.

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Speaker 1: PJ in this weekend. There's literally nothing else on of

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any consequence on Saturday or even Friday for that matter,

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so little that we don't even have a US boxing

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show on Friday, correct, because of the fact there's nothing

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to handicap.

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Speaker 2: Because you and I are good. But if we don't

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have a fight to handicap, we can't have a handicapping show.

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As good as we are, as charming as you are,

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as delightful as I am. So you're right.

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Speaker 1: But because this is happening, we'll talk about it for

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a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 2: And Floyd Mayweather is a noteworthy name, of course, But

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what's I don't even know what is the genesis of

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why this is happening? With John Gotti the third who

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in so who wrestling style? That why is why is

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this even happening?

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Speaker 1: I wish I had an answer for that. I mean

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John Gotti the Third he is for those who don't know,

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this is the only reason why he's even a you

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know in the conversation to have an event like this.

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He is the grandson of the mobster John.

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Speaker 2: Gotti, the late teflon Don Correct.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, so that's his grandson. He's actually two to zero

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as a professional boxer in a you know, against extremely

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low level opposition. He is five and one in MMA

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bouts at age thirty one years old. You know, in

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June he bought Mayweather, and Mayweather dominated this thing. I

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watch it after the fact. I didn't buy the pay

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per view or anything like that. And the referee of

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the fight was Kenny Bayliss, obviously well known Vegas referee

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is done tons of big fights and in many ways

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has become like Floyd's personal referee because pretty much whenever

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he's done exhibitions post his boxing career, Kenny has been

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the referee I think for I don't know about every

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single one, but certainly most of them. And the one

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that's coming up this weekend is going to be Floyd's

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eighth exhibition since he retired. So there was a lot

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of rough stuff going on in the fight, and they

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were they were yelling at each other and cursing at

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each other, and it was sort of like weird, and

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Kenny Bayliss is like telling them to knock it off,

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right and if you know, because and if he if

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he didn't, he was going to stop the fight. Now

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was a scheduled eight round fight, and in the sixth round,

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I guess it was gott Gotti that wouldn't stop doing that,

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and and it got to the point where Bayless stopped

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the fight. Now it didn't matter because it's not like

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affecting anybody's record. There's no scores being rendered because it's

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an exhibition and everything. So it wasn't really the end

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of the world there. And so after he stopped the fight,

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you got Gotti charging at me, whether in the ring

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after the fight has ended. I wish you would have

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been that aggressive when the fight was actually happening. But

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so anyway, because that happened, now you got their camp

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storm in the ring. You got the Floyd campstorm in

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the ring. You know, chaos and riots and sue fights

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are breaking out among the team members, fights are breaking

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out in the crowd. It's absolutely fucking chaos. Then they

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announced they were going to reschedule again. So now some

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time goes by, they say this is last last year

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and by the way, not not like twenty twenty three. Anyway,

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Floyd had posted to his social media that they were

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doing the rematch and it was going to be in

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Las Vegas, and they didn't announce an exact location or

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even the exact date. They just said it was going

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to be around Super Bowl weekend, which Super Bowl the

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most recent Super Bowl took place in Las Vegas, but

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then it didn't happen and they never announced the cancelation.

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But it's been rebooked and now instead of taking place,

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you know, in Las Vegas around the Super Bowl, this

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fight is now taking place on Saturday. It's a de

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zone pay per view for those who want to waste

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your money. It's taking place in Mexico City. They found

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some soccer at a bankroll this thing. They put some

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other fights on the card that are actual bouts for

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some reason or other. Victor Ortiz, who was a former

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Floyd Mayweather victim in an actual professional World Championship welterweight

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title fight. He's in an exhibition match and the co feature,

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and then you know, real fights under the card besides that.

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Speaker 2: I we'll get to that in a second. And you

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even put this on the rundown because I was curious,

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like WWE style, no weight limit, So I mean, what

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're around the same size.

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Speaker 2: Floyd's been fighting though, like it around middleweight, right or

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super middleweight so it would presumably be something like that

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for Floyd, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Floyd walks around probably like one hundred and

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fifty to sixty pounds at most. Okay, his obviously his

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boxing career, he was championed in. His most recent championship

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was at junior middleweight. You know, he's fought fights, you know,

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around that I you know, you take a look at

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his body when he's fought these exhibitions. I mean, he's

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looked in good shape, not in the kind of chisel

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shape that we saw him for so many years. But

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again he's not I don't think training super strengulously these fights.

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little bit in terms of his age. So okay, so

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he put a couple of pounds on. But there's no

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weight limit. I mean, I actually I asked the promoters,

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you know, the pr folks about it, and they're like, no,

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there's I mean for some of the fights, there is

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weight limits for the actual fights, but for this fight

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there isn't. But again, I think that Gotti and Floyd

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are in the ballpark around the same weight limits. So

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they're doing this.

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Speaker 2: What is the likelihood that this is a total farce

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on the ray Field meter. Oh, I mean, it's a

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ten that it's going to be a farce.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing. Here's the thing about it though. Okay,

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Floyd Mayweather's exhibition fights since his retirement have been absolutely

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boring as shit. They're worthless to watch. They don't. This

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is my opinion. Now somebody else I love them and

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think they're the greatest things in sliced bread. But to me,

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they're boring. They don't. There's no entertainment value. And it's

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one thing if you're fighting like somebody that you know

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that's like a notable opponent. Okay, like he thought Logan

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Speaker 2: At least three years ago. Three years ago.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just making the point about the name value.

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person size wise, and there was no weight limit on

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that fight. So now gott he is like, you know,

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it's just it's like he might as well drag some

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Speaker 2: So this begs the question, why, in your mind or

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from what you've heard, is he still hanging on to

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these exhibitions. Does he miss the limelight that much? Is

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it financial? Problems. Is it a combination. What was the

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motivation behind continuing.

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Speaker 1: The financial problems. I'd say he misses the limelight and

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he's getting fit's free money. I mean it's he's going

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to go in the ring against a guy that you

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know couldn't lick his boots in his best day and

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even now you know probably can't do anything with him.

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He'll move around the ring for you know, I think

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his eight rounds and he'll get paid, you know, seven

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figures and he'll go home. I mean that's I don't

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I got the way that all of my my my

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irritation by it's not really shouldn't even say it's ritation.

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I just I'm a against it. I just don't care

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about it. So if anybody wants to watch it, by

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all means all right. I'm making the point here, though, TJ.

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Is this, If Floyd Mayweather can get some socker to

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pay him seven figures to go move around the ring

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against a shmir then good for Floyd. I respect that.

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I respect the hustle, all right.

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Speaker 2: So the rest of this card, as you mentioned, Victor Ortiz,

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this card that might be of note, and then we'll

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Speaker 1: So the other things of note, I guess the one

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fight that actually is sort of interesting is that's a

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junior featherweight fight, and that is between Alan David Picasso,

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who was a good looking up and coming fighter from

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Mexico's twenty eight to zero to one with sixteen knockouts.

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He's only twenty four years old. He's a very good

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up and coming fighter. He's taken on a fighter that

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has been a contender and is always in good fights

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named Azatahovi Nissian. He had a fight, if you recall

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in twenty twenty three that was the title eliminator against

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Luis Near. Nearly won that fight which got him the

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shot against in a way that you know, he got

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knocked out in. But that fight that Nearly won by

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eleventh three knockout was it was an outstanding fight. And

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for a young fighter like Picasso to see what he

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an okay fight. And then Mayweather Promotions, which is Floyd's company,

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which you know at one time had a number of

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fighters under contract. They really I don't even know how

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many they have overall, but it's not many, but they

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eighteen years old, nam kermel Moutan, who has fought on,

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about the fight that was the boxing match between Jorge

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Masvidal and they Diez Box on that undercard. But he's

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a really outstanding young prospect, I mean, one of the

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best in the sport. Four and oh with three knockouts.

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So he's going to be on his promoters undercard, you know,

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the the you know, Floyd's promoter, so he's taken him

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and you know he's going to be on that show.

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is the guy's name unless it's changed and I'm aware

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of that. So anyway, that's the deal. I mean, you know, we,

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like you said, we wouldn't be spending a lot of

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time if there was real big fights going on this second.

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But again it is Mayweather, so he is one of

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the biggest names in the history of the sport. So

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we'll let the people know he's fighting an exhibition. If

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you care to spend your money on a pay per view,

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and then God bless you, all right if you'll being

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his hair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, or as you like to say, call your

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mother or do something else. Okay, So now let's get

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to fights that actually matter and the October twelfth card

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that is highly anticipated. We've been waiting for a while

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because of injuries to Archer. Better BV, Better BV and

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Bibol are the main event Saudi Arabia riadd season pay

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per view. Now the undercard has filled out.

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Speaker 1: Hold on one second, the Better BF BVL match that

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one specific bout. Yep I asked this of Top Rank

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and yesterday when Turkey al Shehic announced the undercard, and

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they say to me that nothing has changed in terms

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of their deal. They are the promoter of Better be

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and all along even before this fight was postponed. Their

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contract says that they have the American rights for that bout.

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They maintain that that bout is a free bout on

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the regular ESPN Plus subscription serve. You know you have

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a subscription ESPN Plus, you can watch that fight again.

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what they said to me and what was going on

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before it was postponed, if they follow that same situation

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free on ESPN Plus for subscribers in the United States,

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that's the way you should watch that fight.

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Speaker 2: We love that fight, but the other fights that are

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under it, and that's what they intended to do before,

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and that's what you were saying, the other fights are

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under it are going to be a pay per view.

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This is apparently, but this is some intriguing stuff that

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they've now lined up, including the name Shakur Stevenson go.

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Speaker 1: Ahead well, and as far as the pay per view,

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I'm not nobody seems to have a handle one hundred percent,

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And I guess we'll have more clarity when they do

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a press conference. Is if they offer the main event

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on ESPN Plus, will they offer the rest of the

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pay per view on ESPN Plus as a pay per view? Obviously,

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I would suspect because of the Saudi's involvement in all

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the different names we're going to talk about, that it's

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definitely going to be his own pay per view. It'll

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be de zone around the world, obviously. I'm just in

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terms of the United States, you know, it seems to

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be up in the air. I mean, we'll be able

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to see it if you want to buy a pay

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per view. It's just a matter of where and how

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much is going to be free and how much is

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on the paper. So we'll find that out in due time.

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But in terms of the undercard you just mentioned, so

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a couple of days ago Turkey al sheet from Saudi Arabia,

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there was no like formal press release or big you know,

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news Converse or anything. They'll get to all that business,

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I suppose down the road. But he posted on his

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social media and by the way, he's got like fifteen

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million followers on Twitter or something like that, or on

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Facebook and Instagram, he's got millions and millions of followers.

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And he put up a picture of the poster art,

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you know, the artwork for the fight, which had better

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Bevan people at the top, and then it had headshots

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of the rest of the fighters apparently order of the fights, right,

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and what those bouts were, and the co feature was

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going to be chaque Stevenson is going to be Chakhuare

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Stevenson defending his WBC lightweight title against Joe Cordina.

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Speaker 2: Oh, not against Travonte Davis, not against Williams Ofpaida. Well,

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wait a minute, let's move down the list, and it's

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Joe Cordina. I gotta tell you, just point blank, I'm

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underwhelmed by seeing that Chaquur is back. But I'm underwhelmed

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by that your reaction.

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Speaker 1: I'd say Cordeina is the more interesting fight to me

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than seeing him fight Ardham Hartytunian like he did in

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his last fight in July. I mean that's my opinion.

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I mean maybe so just might disagree. Now, Cordina was

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a good fighter. At one point thirty, he had two

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reigns with the IVF title, and it really should have

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been only one. The only reason it was two because

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at one point he got stripped of his belt because

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he had a hand injury and couldn't make a timely

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mandatory and then he was in line to get the

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next shot when it was better, which he did, and

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he won the fight in the tremendous battle against rock

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him off, and he regained the belt. But it really

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should have just been one title ran. But the main

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point here is this, in his last fight that took

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place a few months ago, he was a huge favorite

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against you know, Anthony Cassachi, a fighter that you know

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was nobody gave a chance to Frankly and then didn't

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have the resume to looked like he could do anything.

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Certainly didn't look good in the one loss he had

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before that. I mean, it was a big time mismatch

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on paper, but you know, that's why they fight the

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fights apparently, And he not only won the fight, but

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he pretty much dominated Cordeinia, knocked him out and won

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the title. And so Cordina's going up to one hundred

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and thirty five pounds and he's getting the shot against

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share Court. Now. Shakoort had been already ordered to fight

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Williams Apeida and Williams the PAIDA is the mandatory in

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the WBC's also number one in the other organizations, and

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the WC had ordered the Purspit and so the purspid

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was supposed to take place on August twentieth, So we're

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taping this on August twenty second. It was supposed to

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be two days ago, and it got canceled because Golden Boy,

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which is the promoter for THEE Beta and Chaquur's team

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whoever was doing the business on his behalf. I'm not.

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I think Eddie Hearn was sort of in the background,

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even though now he's signed with Eddie, or maybe it

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was just his lawyer, manager James Prince, in their return.

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But the point was they had come to some kind

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of agreement like that they were going to do the fight,

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and they asked the WBC to cancel the person and

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then suddenly the Cordeina fight is announced. So I'm not

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sure exactly what happened in terms of what went down

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that changed it, and we have a deal to like

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we're going to do Cordina. But now fast forward to

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a couple of days after Turkey's announcement, and it was

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earlier today meeting Thursday, that Matroom Boxing formally announced in

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a full press release in the whole Mind that they

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have signed Chakhor Stephenson. So he's now signed a multi

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fight deal with Matchroom Boxing. And in the context of

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that press announcement, they were talking about we're doing this

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fight against Cordeena on this we had season card on

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October twelfth, and we'll look forward to the mandatory against

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Williams Ofpada. So my understanding that jobs of what I

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have been told, which is that Chakor and Cordina will

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go forward. The WBC will give their blessing Zapeida and

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Golden Boy in their side. They are not gonna, you know,

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look to cause trouble. They're going to, you know, as

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they say, go along to get along. And Zapaida will

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have some other time of fight before the end of

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this year, whether that's a Golden Boys show somewhere in

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the United States, or he fights on another one of

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the big Saudi cards that will take place this year,

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you know who knows, but he'll fight. And if Zapeida

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is the winner of his fight and Schakor takes care

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of Cordina, then uh and Turkey has talked about this

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also that they'll do against the Peeda, which is a

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tremendous fight. I mean it may not be that's but

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that's a hell of a fight.

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Speaker 2: That's an intriguing fight. And I've said that to you

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over and over again.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, But that was the only thing I was.

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Speaker 2: Thinking when you were saying that if you're Zupeida, do

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you want to take the risk in another fight He

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just recently fought what earlier this month, right or did

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he fight late last month? Is a paida whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you want to take the risk.

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Speaker 2: If you're in nine for the Shakur fight, you're just

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going to fight a low level guy that has a

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little chance to beat you, or what do you find me?

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Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know who he's gonna fight. But

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you know a lot of times, you know, I'm I'm

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against tune up fights. Do you do the fight when

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you get it. But there's no reason for him to

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sit around a way, he's a really outstanding fighter. We're

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not gonna match him super tough, and the it is

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prize fighting and if you get beat, you get beat.

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And by the way, Shakurse stevens and if Cordina pulls

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the upset, then he's in the same boat ash as

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the paid if he were to lose. So you know,

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you can't plan too far, but you can put the

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put the ground work together that if the situation gets

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screwed up, so be it. I mean, that's life. But

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the bottom line is if they come through the fights

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and they vote and they keep their word, we'll see

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a fascinating matchup between shak Or ends the Paida, which

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I think is a fantastic fight. I would hope if

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they do that match, that they would find it a

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good place to do that here in the United States.

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That's a you know, I understand Saudi Arabi is putting

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on a lot of the fights, and you know, I

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don't know if they would look to put that in

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one of like a safe for example, like the Fury

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Usk undercard, or maybe have it headline its own no

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read card maybe you know the Read season, the brand,

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you know, Turkey. They plan to do other events in

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the United States. I could certainly see that headlining an

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event here in America, but who knows. I mean, the

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main thing is it looks like that's the fight we're

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going to see. So it'll be interesting as I do

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a little more reporting to find out exactly what happened

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in terms of what happened to Like Okay, we've got

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a deal for Supaida and then suddenly, like twenty four

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hours later, we're fighting Coordina money talks and from matrom Boxing.

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Now you know they signed Shakor. Eddie's been submitting it

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with Shakur, you know for a long time. You know,

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they were hanging out together in LA at the Crawford

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Magm fight. They sat with each other, you know, Eddie

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introduced Shakur to Turkey al Chic at that event, and

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you know they're doing business now. And I mean, look

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one thing about Eddie Hern He's gonna shout Shakur's name

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from the rooftop and he's gonna get him a lot

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of attention and a lot of publicity, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: And we know this. He's betting on himself, and I

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can assure you he's cashing in big time with Turkey

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al Chic and Read Season here for this fight with

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Cordina and then we'll see what is his headline fight? Dude?

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Is that back on a read season card? Is it

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just a Mattum card. We'll find out. But there was

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great debate about is Shakur making the right move going

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away from top ranks? So we'll see, all right. So

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the rest of the undercard features Christian Bank, pretty loaded

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car Well, it has a great heavyweight fight that we

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were touching on with Wordley and Clark in a rematch.

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It has Jay Up a tie on it. So go

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over this just again real quick here on the undercard.

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Speaker 1: So they put the poster artwork I mentioned, so I

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assume if it's following the same scenario that they did

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when they did the same sort of poster art when

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they announced their Day of Reckoning, when they announced other events,

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when they announced the Madrumov and Crawford fight, that they

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put them on in sort of the order they're doing,

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so I'll go in that order. So the main event

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that we talked about is the light heavyweight undisputed with

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Arthur better Bee and the major people. Then comes Chaquor

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against Cordina and the next fight down And it kind

472
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,079
of seemed those a little too high on the card

473
00:21:29,079 --> 00:21:30,680
in my mind based on what else is there. But

474
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,559
they're doing a fight between Chris Hubank Junior who is

475
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,319
now working with Boxer. And also this is also of

476
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,480
interest as aide aside to what we're talking about. These

477
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:45,799
Saudi cards have been largely you know, Queensberry and Mattrium centric.

478
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,359
That's how they did the five on five and you

479
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,680
know Fury and these other events they have done. And

480
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,480
I mean there's been other promoters involved. I mean Top

481
00:21:52,559 --> 00:21:54,599
Rank's been involved with certain fights, and you know in

482
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,400
the La FI, PBC had a bunch of guys on

483
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,000
the card, but largely they've been Frank Warren and Eddie

484
00:21:59,039 --> 00:22:02,519
Hern type fight cards. But they brought Broxer in big time,

485
00:22:02,559 --> 00:22:05,079
and Boxer is very heavily involved with this particular card

486
00:22:05,079 --> 00:22:08,720
and cruising with Chris Eubanks, so he's fighting. I think

487
00:22:08,759 --> 00:22:12,480
it's a mismatch against camille' zara meta. Anybody that follows

488
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,039
the sport closely knows that camille' Zarametta, you know, was

489
00:22:15,079 --> 00:22:17,799
a mandatory challenger and got pummeled and knocked out by

490
00:22:17,799 --> 00:22:21,119
a Gnati Glovkin and a title defense that took place

491
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,319
in Florida inside the bubble during COVID, and he's he's

492
00:22:25,319 --> 00:22:28,960
like four zero to two since four wins and two draws,

493
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,359
but he has not fought anybody. I don't I don't

494
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,039
really quite get what this what they're trying to do

495
00:22:33,079 --> 00:22:34,640
with this fight. But that's the next fight. And then

496
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,440
after that was the rematch from the fantastic fight in

497
00:22:38,519 --> 00:22:41,680
March that was between the big British heavyweights Fabio Wardley

498
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,160
and Fraser Clark. They put on a fantastic fight. It

499
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,039
was one of those fights that was ruled they draw

500
00:22:46,519 --> 00:22:48,839
that actually really frankly should have been a draw like

501
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,480
it was that close. And my thoughts and I think

502
00:22:51,519 --> 00:22:54,400
commentary I saw from many others, both fans and other

503
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,279
media that that was a fair score and they put

504
00:22:57,279 --> 00:22:59,480
on a fight of the Year type contender and they're

505
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,200
going to do the match. And what the interesting thing

506
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,079
about a TJ is this, When they did the original

507
00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:05,480
fight at the end of March, they put it on

508
00:23:05,519 --> 00:23:08,079
as the main event on a Sky Sports card and

509
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,640
they put like fifteen eighteen thousand in the two Arena

510
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,519
in London, and it was like a big deal. And

511
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,720
obviously based on what they did in that first fight,

512
00:23:15,839 --> 00:23:18,839
that they would want to have had the rematch and

513
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,200
headline its own card and do another big gate at

514
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,240
an two or some other whatever big arena in the

515
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,960
UK you can find. And I know this because I

516
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,640
talked to some people that were involved. Had it not

517
00:23:27,759 --> 00:23:30,920
wound up on this read season card, they were having

518
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,400
conversations about possibly Boxer and Sky Sports doing it as

519
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,960
the main event of a pay per view because of

520
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,160
how great the first fight wasn't, how much attention to

521
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,079
God and what a big crowd they drew and everything.

522
00:23:40,799 --> 00:23:42,839
But now it winds up as the fourth fight down

523
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,680
the card in Saudi Arabia, so it's the British heavyweight title.

524
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,480
It does seem kind of like a fish out of

525
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,880
water that you're contesting the British heavyweight title in read

526
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,720
Saudi Arabia. But that's the way life goes. And also,

527
00:23:53,759 --> 00:23:56,240
I guess partly because the British Boxing Board of Control

528
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,400
are the regulatory agency that oversees most of these fight

529
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,079
cards that takeria. So but that whatever whatever it is

530
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,480
in terms of where it is or what placement is

531
00:24:05,519 --> 00:24:07,720
on the cart, that's a great fight matchup because the

532
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,599
first fight we expected a good fight, we got a

533
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,119
better fight than I think anybody expected, and the rematch

534
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,640
is something that a lot of people want to see

535
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,799
and so that's a to me, that's the term I've

536
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,960
used for that match. That's the meat on the bone

537
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,599
for the undercart. That's like a real first class kind

538
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,839
of matchup, and the winner of that fight is definitely

539
00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:25,319
in line for something big in a very active and

540
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,279
busy heavyweight division, particularly with the interest of the Turkey

541
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,720
that have been doing so many of the heavyweight fights,

542
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,680
that the winner is going to be in a great spot.

543
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,839
And Wardley has fought on a previous Saudi Arabia card

544
00:24:35,839 --> 00:24:37,960
also and kind of gained their attention to some degree,

545
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,079
So great matchup. On that one, and then you mentioned

546
00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:44,400
Opataia is defending the cruiserweight title against Jack Massey, who

547
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,920
has been a career cruiserweight, but he has jumped up

548
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,519
and fought some fights at heavyweight. He gave Joseph Parker

549
00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:51,319
a pretty tough fight not that long ago. He lost

550
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,519
a decision, but he won some rounds. Tough guy. And

551
00:24:53,559 --> 00:24:55,559
now he's back in a more natural weight glass Opataia

552
00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:57,920
will still be the big favorite, but he's now also

553
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,920
involved with the Saudi's and they're keeping an eye on him.

554
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,279
They've been putting him on these shows. He's coming off,

555
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,079
you know, his second victory in a row against Myra

556
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,799
or not in a row, but he won both fights

557
00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:10,000
of the rivalry between him and Myras Bredest in the

558
00:25:10,079 --> 00:25:12,079
last fight that was on a Saudi Arabia card back

559
00:25:12,079 --> 00:25:16,279
when Fury fought against Alexander Usik. So great to see

560
00:25:16,279 --> 00:25:18,359
Opataiya back. He's the number one cruiserweight in the world.

561
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,119
He's a lineal champ, he's the IVF champ. He's exciting,

562
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,640
he's a big puncher. His future is gonna definitely be

563
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,039
as a heavyweight, and so he's finding a guy in

564
00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:28,079
this in Nasty who has been a cruiserweight but has

565
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,279
experience as a heavyweight. So I'm not sure if that

566
00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:31,880
was by design but or just a way that it

567
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,200
worked out. But so that's that fight. And then you

568
00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:37,640
get into the rest of that card. You have Ben Whittaker,

569
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,079
who is the very flashy and flamboyant Olympic Olympic silver

570
00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:44,160
medalist from Britain, very unorthodox, the kind of guy that

571
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,599
everybody either loves or hates. They just they watch him.

572
00:25:46,599 --> 00:25:48,400
But he you know, he he.

573
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 2: Gets quick footnote less clowning from this guy. He's talented,

574
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,200
but he's turning things into clown shows. Let's see less

575
00:25:56,279 --> 00:25:59,160
clowning from Ben Whittaker. Or if I'm making requests on

576
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,000
a preview pot.

577
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,839
Speaker 1: If you're gonna clown, do it when you actually have

578
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,559
a little more experience or like an actual resume that

579
00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:09,559
that you've proved, you've proven something exactly. So he's taking

580
00:26:09,559 --> 00:26:12,160
on a fighter named Liam Cameron in a ten rounder,

581
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,160
another boxer fighter by the way, and then you have

582
00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:19,359
the w This is I guess that will turn out

583
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,039
to be a historical footnote. I suppose that of all

584
00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:24,039
the REA season cards that have happened, there has never

585
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,880
yet been a women's boxing match on one of those shows.

586
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,400
Now there has been a women's fight in Saudi Arabia.

587
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,799
We don't have to go through the litigate the history

588
00:26:31,839 --> 00:26:33,160
of their treatment of women.

589
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 2: This just into the newsroom. Women's rights in Saudi Arabia

590
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,880
ain't what they are, and the rest of the free

591
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,519
world agreed.

592
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: So they did do. Like ram La Ali fought on

593
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,799
a matchroom card that was in Saudi Arabia, you know,

594
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,279
not that long ago. But in terms of the read

595
00:26:45,319 --> 00:26:49,240
season cards, Sky Nicholson is going to defend her WBC

596
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,920
Women's featherweight title against the undefeated British fighter Raven Chapman

597
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,119
on that card, so there is some historical irrelevance there.

598
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,480
And then there's a pro debut of another fighter that

599
00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:02,599
I don't really never really heard of. So but those

600
00:27:02,599 --> 00:27:04,279
are the main fights that we just discussed. I mean,

601
00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:06,480
it's a very loaded card. There's a lot of interesting.

602
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: Let me let me go over again with Satour, Schakour Cordina.

603
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:12,279
We get a Chris Ubank sighting which the British fans

604
00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:16,119
love him, Wardley Clark in a rematch opa tie in

605
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,480
a title defense at Cruiserway Plus Whittaker plus a women's

606
00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:22,799
world title fight. Again, they're not paying us to say that,

607
00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:27,079
but there's been a lot worse being offered for fifty nine, nine,

608
00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:30,960
seventy nine, and no, forget how much would you pay?

609
00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: So, by the way, don't forget the most important thing

610
00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:35,359
this is all that we're talking about, is in addition

611
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,000
to the best fight on the boxing schedule of this year,

612
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:41,119
and that's the undisputed light heavyweight title between Arthur better

613
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,359
Biev and Dmitri buvol So. The rest of it's gravy

614
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,720
in my mind. I mean, all right, you know, I

615
00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:48,640
mean there's different there's different levels of the competitiveness on paper.

616
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,680
I mean, you gotta love, like I said, just a

617
00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:54,799
real quick though schakour Gardina. There's definitely been some people

618
00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:56,880
that don't like that. I get it. I'd personally rather

619
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,039
see there's a Payda fight. I don't I don't hate

620
00:27:59,039 --> 00:28:00,720
the Cordina matchup. I know we did get knocked out

621
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,680
in the last fight, but it's no I don't necessarily

622
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,960
hold that that much against him. Uh. The U Bank's

623
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,200
are meta. I mean, I'm fine having Chris on the card,

624
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,160
even against Sarah Meta. I don't know why it's that

625
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,680
high up on the show, although they could certainly change

626
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,119
their minds at some point. Wordley Clark, great fight, Opataia Massey, Uh,

627
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,160
I don't. I don't think that's it's not an a fight.

628
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,319
That fight. In my mind, that's like a it's like

629
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:22,039
a B minus kind of defense that should be in

630
00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:25,359
front of the U Bank fight. Sorry. And remember Opataya

631
00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:28,160
has been calling out billim Smith, who's another boxer fighter.

632
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,079
He's willing to fight the top guys. Uh, and that

633
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,279
I guess was not able to happen in this particular instance.

634
00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:34,920
So he's fighting Massy. I got no problem with that

635
00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:37,440
and uh. And then you got Whittakers in a ten

636
00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:40,000
rounder of the continued development fight against a guy that's

637
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:42,839
you know, a veteran and uh. And the women's fight,

638
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,000
you know, they're two undefeated women who are gonna, you know,

639
00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:46,319
fight it out for that world title.

640
00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:50,119
Speaker 2: Okay, So that is coming on October the twelfth, So

641
00:28:50,279 --> 00:28:52,119
interesting as we continue to go through the news and

642
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,720
we've got some nostalgia coming up. Then in the days

643
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:58,279
after that, in Japan, not one but two fight cards

644
00:28:58,319 --> 00:29:01,799
have been announced for the Sunday and the Monday on

645
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,519
the thirteenth and the fourteenth in Tokyo. Tell me more

646
00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:06,480
about what's going on.

647
00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:09,319
Speaker 1: So this is at the same arena of the Ariyaki Arena.

648
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,079
So I had heard about some of these fights that

649
00:29:11,119 --> 00:29:13,039
they were doing. I didn't realize they were going to

650
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:15,559
be split up among two days. I'm not sure why

651
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,960
they're doing that. They're both, you know, the same promotion,

652
00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:21,119
same teek in boxing. Both shows will be shown in

653
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,759
the United States in those early morning hours on ESPN Plus.

654
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,960
And as we've discussed numerous times on a dork for

655
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,880
these Japanese events, on these two shows they're doing, they've

656
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,759
got when Top Rank announced all the particulars eight separate.

657
00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:36,559
It's eight total fights split over the two shows, four

658
00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:38,400
on one for on the other. Some of them are world

659
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,720
title fights, and the one that's not a world title

660
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,319
fight is the continued development of the kickboxer turn pro

661
00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:48,000
boxer Tension Nasakawa, who's looked really good in those last

662
00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:49,519
couple of fights. He's an up and coming fighter. He's

663
00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:51,839
fighting at bantam weight, he's undefeated, he looked great in

664
00:29:51,839 --> 00:29:54,440
the last fight. He's also a superstar in Japan, so

665
00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:56,680
he's high up on the card because a lot of

666
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,599
the fans that turn out or watch on their TV,

667
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,519
they definitely tune in and buy tickets for him. But

668
00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:03,799
in terms of the main event on each day on

669
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,359
the on the card, that's the first one that's on

670
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,200
the October thirteenth date, he got Takuma in a way,

671
00:30:09,319 --> 00:30:11,960
who was of course the brother of Noya in a way.

672
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:14,680
He is defending the WBA bhantam waite title against a

673
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,440
fighter named seyah Suits sum Suit Sumi. That's the main

674
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,359
event of that that particular card, and the other main

675
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,519
event is the guy that we all love on the

676
00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:26,480
on the next day, the fourteenth, and that's Jentto Nakatani,

677
00:30:26,519 --> 00:30:28,599
who was, you know, one of the most exciting and

678
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,880
interesting fighters in the whole sport. He's defending his WBC

679
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,559
bhantamwaite title. Both dantam white titles, by the way, are

680
00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:35,480
in the main event. So maybe they're trying to set

681
00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:36,880
up I think they may be trying to set up

682
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,039
Knakatani against in a way, because after Nakatani's last fight,

683
00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:42,880
they talked about him against in a way, and so

684
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,480
maybe they're gonna put it off one fight and then

685
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,039
come their next rotation, they'll they'll match up and they'll unify,

686
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,279
and if Junto Nakatani continues to win, you know, I

687
00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:53,680
guess the plan might be, which would be a humongous

688
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,279
fight in Japan's certainly would be Nakatani going up to

689
00:30:56,319 --> 00:30:58,799
one twenty two to take on the undisputed champion, which

690
00:30:58,839 --> 00:31:00,599
is in a way and it would be like you

691
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,039
know the old Clichko situation, revenge of the brother right

692
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:06,519
when when a clitch Goo lost to Chris Bird, Batally

693
00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:09,000
lost to Chris Bird and then Vladimir got He didn't

694
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,440
do a rematch with the Tally, he had to fight

695
00:31:10,519 --> 00:31:14,200
Vladimir and Vladimir Pomel them won the heavyweight bell from him.

696
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,720
So anyway, so you got Jonto Nakatani against that Thailand

697
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,240
fighter petch sort Chipatana. Uh, that'll be that main event,

698
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,279
and then they've taste gave sprinkled in a bunch of

699
00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:25,519
other title fight. He got our boy Canciro Taraji, who's

700
00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:28,640
moved up in wait from junior fly weight. He's supposed

701
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,519
he was supposed to fight Julio Caesar Martinez, but that

702
00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:34,240
that went down the drain because Julio Caesar Martinez, you know,

703
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:36,319
was filled to the gills of pds for the last fight,

704
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,319
so he's out of that situation. So he's taken on

705
00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:41,240
a former role Titlder and Christopher Rosales for the vacant

706
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:44,200
WBC flywaight title, and Taraji always brings a good fight,

707
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,759
so that's then further down that card, you got the

708
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,079
WBA's flyweight title. Your boy Sego yuri Akui. He's taken

709
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:52,960
on another Thailand fighter whose name I'm not going to

710
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:53,599
try to pronounce it.

711
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,799
Speaker 2: At this At this point, you're using the your boy

712
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:56,920
on me way too liberally.

713
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,799
Speaker 1: They can't know you got two boys g Kabel and

714
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,599
Segy if you say so, okay, yeah. And then for

715
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,960
the vacant w BO Junior Flyway title, you got uh

716
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,880
Ah Shokichi Iwata from Japan against Hiro Noriega. Not big

717
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,960
names obviously, but you know, a little depth to that show.

718
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,440
And then you move on to the Sunday card and

719
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,400
besides Nakatani, you got the Tension fight. He's going to

720
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,680
continue his development in a ten rounder, and then you

721
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,480
got two other title fights. He got Cocy Tanaka against

722
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,759
uh you know, Fumkfu Uh for the WBO Junior bandam

723
00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:31,000
Way title. That Tanaka has and then the fight where

724
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,920
I've reported about where they were trying to do it

725
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,759
and they couldn't get the purse been done and they

726
00:32:34,759 --> 00:32:38,920
finally made a deal. Uh Anthony Olascagua, who looked really

727
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,920
good when he won the title, the WBO Flyway title.

728
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,119
He's taken on Jonathan Gonzalez, who was the former Junior

729
00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:48,400
Flyway title, was moving up in weight. That's actually on paper,

730
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,440
that's a very interesting fight to me. He got the

731
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:54,119
real good punching power of the champion against the real

732
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,720
skillful quickness of Jonathan Gonzalez, so that, you know, we'll

733
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,759
see who can impose their style on the other guy.

734
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:05,279
They're both with the same promoter, in Tudo's Abala from

735
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:07,559
All Star Boxing. They were he was having trouble making

736
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:09,200
the deal with Jonath Goanzaz, but I guess they got

737
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,880
all that stuff done and now we've got to fight.

738
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,880
So it's a ton of action. We're waking up early

739
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,400
on two days to watch Japanese fights.

740
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, but yeah, you've got the better bbvol main

741
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,640
event and then all those other fights you listed, which

742
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,119
is on the Saturday the twelfth, in the afternoon US

743
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,000
time in Saudi Arabia, and then you got these two

744
00:33:25,079 --> 00:33:28,200
fights Sunday morning, Monday morning, US time, Sunday night, Monday night.

745
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,359
It's quite the it's quite the extended weekend for boxing

746
00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:35,359
in and around the NFL season, in college football here

747
00:33:35,359 --> 00:33:38,400
in the United States, et cetera, Baseball playoffs.

748
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:40,119
Speaker 1: I'll be Japanese boxing.

749
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: That's all Japanese boxing for breakfast. As we'd like to say,

750
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,920
the corn flakes and the Japanese boxing will be flowing.

751
00:33:45,839 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: All right.

752
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: A couple more items that we're not on the recap podcast,

753
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,960
but there's actually a recap of the Wednesday night Pro

754
00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:56,319
Box main event that had former Unified Junior Middleway champs

755
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:01,559
Jared Jared Hurd and Jason Rosario. And this ended up

756
00:34:01,559 --> 00:34:03,160
being competitive and ended up being.

757
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: No winner, as it turns out. Give me a quick thought, yeah,

758
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,719
it turned out to be a split draw. I mean,

759
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,079
this was like an old man kind of fight, but

760
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:13,119
both guys looking to do something to try to salvage

761
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:15,239
their careers to kind of get back into any kind

762
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,239
of contention. To be honest, Rosario had announced his retirement

763
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,559
and I guess came out of retirement. Jared has had

764
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:23,960
layoffs and but now you know, he's back. And at

765
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,280
one time Jared Hurd was the unquestioned king of one

766
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,519
hundred and fifty four pounds. He had won the fight

767
00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:32,119
of the year against Arisloni Laara and he had various

768
00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:34,800
belts and you know, tremendous.

769
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: Fight until we keep talking about it until the homecoming fight.

770
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:41,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he got beat by Jay by Jay Rock.

771
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:43,440
And by the way that his homecoming was in the

772
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,440
arena that is the closest possible arena to where I live.

773
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,239
Because he's from Akakeik, Maryland, which is just over the river,

774
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,440
so you know, fighting in Fairfax, Virginia is a home

775
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,840
game for him. And like I said, they fought in

776
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,239
the arena on the campus of George Mason University, which

777
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,559
is I think in a straight line down the high

778
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:03,519
down the main drag in my town. It's like six

779
00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:05,559
or seven miles from my house, but it's right in

780
00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:09,519
our neighborhood. Basically, like I said, the closest conceivable venue

781
00:35:09,519 --> 00:35:12,639
you can do a boxing event unless I was able

782
00:35:12,679 --> 00:35:14,039
to buy a fight at a person and put it

783
00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:14,440
on my.

784
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 2: Cul He lost that fight and he hasn't been the

785
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,280
same fighter when he lost that fight to Jay Rock.

786
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: The main thing here is like these are two guys

787
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,079
that are doing their thing. They both at one time

788
00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:27,119
were winning fights. They both were unified champs. Uh, they

789
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:29,920
both had you know, exciting fights. Rozario was a big puncher,

790
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,519
nightbe not the best chin. Jared, even when he's lost,

791
00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:35,599
always shown a good chin. But anyway, so they they fought. Uh,

792
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,719
you know PBC, they've been with for years. They helped

793
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,639
arrange this fight and put it on the Pro Box card,

794
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:43,719
which has been doing some nice fights, kind of filling

795
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,840
the gap of what there what there isn't lately in boxing,

796
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,360
which is that middle class the kind of fights that

797
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,280
we used to see on Friday night fights on ESPN

798
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,840
two or if you go back, you know a few

799
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,880
years before that, which I used to watch religiously, the

800
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,320
Tuesday night fights on us a ham work. But what

801
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,719
Probox is doing are those caliber kind of shows. They

802
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,480
may not have, you know, huge world championship fights and

803
00:36:05,519 --> 00:36:08,360
that sort of thing, but they've they've got some names. Look,

804
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,079
I mean Angelo Leo, who just won the featherweight belt

805
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:17,280
in that spectacular knockout against Jose against rather Luis Alberto Lopez.

806
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,559
He got his comeback wins and won like three fights

807
00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:22,719
in a row. I believe it was on pro Box

808
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,639
cards against you know, pretty decent opposition and that was

809
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:27,880
able to launch him into the title fight. So anyway,

810
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,679
that's a plug for Probox TV. They've been doing a

811
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,800
nice job. You know, our guys Chris Algeria and Polymlanaji

812
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,440
duel the most of the commentary over there. Anyway, this

813
00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:38,119
was a close fight. It was a pretty good fight.

814
00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:40,639
And here's the thing. Ninety six ninety four for her,

815
00:36:41,079 --> 00:36:43,920
ninety six ninety four in favor of Rosario ninety five

816
00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:47,239
ninety five and Jared Hurd, if he goes back and

817
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,679
watches the fight is going to eat his heart out

818
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,239
because he gave away the tenth round like he didn't

819
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,920
give a shit, and that was what made the difference

820
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,159
if he.

821
00:36:55,199 --> 00:36:59,039
Speaker 2: Won many times, do we that in the recap mode

822
00:36:59,519 --> 00:37:02,280
that you've got to finish strong. You've got to finish

823
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,079
strong in the last round or two, even if you

824
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:05,119
think you've won the fight.

825
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, it's not it's one thing if you

826
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,400
feel like the guy's dead, tired, or he's heard and

827
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,960
like he's struggling, and you know, maybe he just can't

828
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,639
get through the round, or he's got nothing left and

829
00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:18,079
he's all right, right, you know, understandable. That did not

830
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:19,639
seem to be the case in this. I mean I

831
00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:22,079
can't I was not in his body, but I've watched

832
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:24,400
a million Jared Herd fights and whatever. He certainly did

833
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,840
not seem like he was in some way, shape or

834
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,119
form compromised or you know, out of gas or tired.

835
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,840
He just seemed disinterested. The Jared Hurt in his prime,

836
00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:37,559
which is not fair enough, was a punching, fucking machine.

837
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,400
He had stamina and he just let it all hang out.

838
00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:42,599
He was the most brutal guy in the world to fight,

839
00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:44,920
because from one to ten or one to twelve, he

840
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,920
was forcing the action. He was all over you. You

841
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,920
could not get away from it. He would just hammer

842
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,880
you down. Which is output output output output. That guy's gun,

843
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,239
that ticker does not an engine is not there anymore.

844
00:37:57,039 --> 00:37:58,880
And by the way, gave the fight away.

845
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,199
Speaker 2: Basically, by and by the way, I've probably been derelict

846
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,079
because Plant City, Florida. You're talking about how close the

847
00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:08,159
arena is in Fairbanks, Plant City.

848
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:13,159
Speaker 1: Florida, about fab Sorry, fair I don't live in Alaska.

849
00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:17,119
Speaker 2: You don't live in Alaska. Fairfax, Virginia, not Fairbanks, Alaska.

850
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,800
Plant City, Florida, about thirty thirty five minutes from me,

851
00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:26,079
named for Henry B. Plant who was the guy that

852
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:28,679
basically founded a lot of the infrastructure and the money

853
00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:33,639
for Tampa, Florida. Plant City, Florida, known for its strawberries

854
00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:37,320
and the strawberry Festival. Brother rayphel every come get the

855
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,760
best strawberry shortcake in the world. But they've had those

856
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,639
probox shows there now for a couple of years in

857
00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:45,159
Plant City, Florida, and obviously I've been a little direct.

858
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:46,840
Maybe I need to go check one of them out midweek,

859
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,880
especially if they've got the bigger names. All right, so

860
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,760
you gave us the recap on that. Are two more

861
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:57,119
news items you mentioned about ji Opataia and defeating Marius

862
00:38:57,159 --> 00:39:00,519
Braidis in his most recent fight, and Braidas has now

863
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:05,960
decided as the former lineal cruiserweight champ and unified Cruiserweight

864
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,320
champ until Opataia has beaten him a couple of times,

865
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,199
has decided that's it on his career. Reflect reflect for

866
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,679
me and do we really believe that he's retired? Is

867
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:15,920
anybody truly retired?

868
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Well, he had a fifteen year career. I mean,

869
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,159
he's what thirty nine years old. He was never a

870
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,159
unified champion, but he was the lineal champion. But at

871
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:25,760
different times in his career. He had won individually the

872
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,960
IBF title, the WBO title, and the WBC title, which

873
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,039
he had been stripped of one of those first crazy reasons.

874
00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:33,679
But we don't have to get all the dirty details,

875
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,320
but I'll put it like this, Myras Braidest fought a

876
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,159
lot of fights at a heavyweight. As a heavyweight, has

877
00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:43,320
a knockout win against Manuel char who was a decent contender,

878
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,039
fought clitzcow Batali Clitschko for the WBC heavyweight title, then

879
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:49,599
held the WB's regular heavyweight title. So that's a pretty

880
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:51,360
good win for him. But he really came into his

881
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,039
own when he finally went down to the cruiserweight division,

882
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:56,000
and he fought a lot of good fighters, you know

883
00:39:56,039 --> 00:39:58,559
he did. The only fights he ever lost were the

884
00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:02,079
two Opataia fights. First, I was super close. And the

885
00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:04,239
only other fight he lost besides Yopatai fights was when

886
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,199
he was in a unification fight during the first incarnation.

887
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:09,320
I think you no it was this? Was it? This? Yeah?

888
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,719
The first incarnation of the cruiserweight World Boxing Super Series,

889
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,360
he lost a very close fight. He probably gave Alexander

890
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,039
Usik the toughest fight of his career, but he lost

891
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:21,840
just barely in that fight. So if you lose to

892
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:24,480
USA close, like you know, you're a pretty good fighter, obviously.

893
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,119
And then went on and one other fights against other

894
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,199
top names that were in that weight class. He beat

895
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,519
my one of my favorite cruiserweights, Marko Hook, uh you know,

896
00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:35,960
on Hook's turf in Germany. That was a big win

897
00:40:36,039 --> 00:40:38,760
for him when he won the vacant WBC title, and

898
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,599
he had other fights against other name guys he fought against,

899
00:40:41,639 --> 00:40:45,320
like you know, Christoph was it against GLOWACKI as a

900
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,639
victory against him. I mean he was a real guy.

901
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:49,199
I mean he he could box, he could punch a

902
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,159
little bit, finishes with a good record twenty eight wins,

903
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:57,280
three losses and twenty knockouts lost in the in the

904
00:40:57,679 --> 00:40:59,440
or no, I take that back. He won in the

905
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:02,199
he did. When the World Boxing Super Series did their

906
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,039
their tournaments, they picked cruiserweight in two of the different incarnations.

907
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,880
In the first tournament, he lost to Usik, like I mentioned.

908
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:13,519
In the second tournament, he actually won against Juniel Dordikos,

909
00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:16,519
who was a former champion. Also that was a unification.

910
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,320
I believe it was unification, but a tremendous puncher who's

911
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,519
now actually up to be the mandatory for Zerdo Ramirez. Anyway,

912
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,960
like he fought all the top guys at that point.

913
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,239
He you know, he has a win over Noel McAllion,

914
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,159
who currently holds the WBC title. He has a knockout

915
00:41:33,199 --> 00:41:37,000
like I said, against Milwaki, you know, and and he

916
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:39,719
also had to win, like I said, against the Dorda Coast,

917
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,440
which actually, now that I think about it, it was

918
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,679
not it should have been a unification, but he'd been stripped.

919
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,800
But when he fought Dorda Coast, it was still for

920
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,760
the IBF title. Uh that he won in that fight.

921
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,199
So he has a lot of accomplishment against the top

922
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,280
guys of his time. You know, you put all those

923
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,679
names in, Uh, those are pretty good cruiserweights, I would

924
00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:59,840
tell you, like this, the cruiserweight division, which wasn't created

925
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,360
in until like the nineteen eighties, so it doesn't have

926
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,159
that kind of history obviously of some of the more

927
00:42:04,199 --> 00:42:07,480
traditional weight classes. But I think that it's absolutely a

928
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:12,599
reasonable conversation to have that greatest based on what he's done,

929
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:15,400
is one of the top ten cruiserweights in boxing since

930
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,920
the division was created. And that's a division. So people

931
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,920
can think about who I'm talking about, you know, in

932
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,760
no particular order. You're talking about Evander Holyfield, Alexander Usk,

933
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,800
David Hay, Thomas Adameck. You know, I said Myers, Braidest.

934
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,079
I mean those types of guys. There's a lot of

935
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:32,679
good fighters that have come through Deers. You know. Now,

936
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,800
James Tony had a cruiserweight title, but only for a

937
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,800
minute because he only won the title and then moved

938
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,840
up right away. The man he beat for the title

939
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,199
was a tremendous cruiser weight for a long time. That's

940
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,360
Vacilly Jurroff. So I put Braidest sort of in that

941
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,280
conversation of the top cruiser weights of all time. And

942
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,400
so you know what, he announced the retirement, very heartfelt

943
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,840
announcement on his social media. I feel, like you said,

944
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,079
is he really done? I'm thinking that thirty nine and

945
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:57,239
the tough fights he's had, like he probably is done,

946
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,480
But you never say never.

947
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 2: Agreed that battle. Earlier this year, in the rematch with

948
00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:04,159
OPATAI and they both broke their nose, and it was

949
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,719
kind of a neat moment where they're both in the

950
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,320
emergency room. Yeah, and he took a selfie and said, hey,

951
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,519
we're both here in the emergency room in separate, you know,

952
00:43:12,559 --> 00:43:14,760
beds across from each other in the emergency room bay

953
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,840
getting broken noses tended to. So there you go on

954
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,719
Marius bradst Okay and one more, speaking of injuries, Sergei

955
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,559
de Revyonchenko. We talked about this coming off the weekend

956
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:29,599
with the torn bicep. You could graphically see it during

957
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:31,679
the mobility fight that he tore it and continued to

958
00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:34,760
fight on after tearing the bicep early on in the fight.

959
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,360
And you've learned that he is going to be laid

960
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,079
up if he even fights anymore.

961
00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: Right, Well, the main thing is I talk I checked

962
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,159
in because I always like to follow up with if

963
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:46,159
I can get the information and find out what's up

964
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:48,639
with guys who may have suffered some type of injury

965
00:43:48,679 --> 00:43:50,639
in their fight, you know, instead of just letting it

966
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,639
go and forgetting about it. I think they deserve at

967
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,360
least have people know what's you know, as long as

968
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,239
they're willing to tell you what happened. So I spoke

969
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,000
to devren Chenko's manager, which is Keith Connelly, who managed

970
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:02,119
just you know, several fighters, but devren Cheko is a

971
00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:04,039
guy who's been with for quite a while. So they

972
00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:05,760
visited the doctor. He was with him in New York.

973
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,039
They went to the doctor, uh you know, was Sergei

974
00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:11,920
and his manager, Keith Connelly, and the wife, uh, Sergey's wife.

975
00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:14,719
They visited the doctor and he was diagnosed. It was actually,

976
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,320
I guess it wasn't diagnosed officially as a torn bicep.

977
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:19,320
The way that it was described to me by Keith

978
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,360
was that he tore the tendon that connects the byseep

979
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,840
muscle to the elbow in his left arm, and obviously

980
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,960
that is that's what caused him all the problems, or

981
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,000
not all the problems, but that's certainly hampered him in

982
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,440
the fight. It happened in the fourth round.

983
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: Extremely painful by the way, Oh yeah, yeah, obviously.

984
00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: And the tendon had rolled up all the way to

985
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,280
the top of his us. So they got the diagnosis.

986
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,559
You know, he had undergone tests, of course, and so anyway,

987
00:44:43,039 --> 00:44:44,800
it wasn't one hundred percent which day it's going to be,

988
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,400
but Keith said to me that the surgery will be

989
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,280
on either Monday or Tuesday of next week. And uh,

990
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,000
you know, all we can say is we wish devonn

991
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:52,119
Chenko was speedy recovered.

992
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 2: And as you said coming out of is if there's

993
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,519
another fighter that's made the money the derevian Chenko was

994
00:44:57,559 --> 00:44:59,599
made with what did you say? Sixteen and five record?

995
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,679
Show to me he's doneeen and six fifteen and six.

996
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,679
Sorry I had that reversed. He's done well and is

997
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,760
he done don't know, but now he's got a significant injury.

998
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:15,079
All right, nostalgia time before we conclude here twenty six

999
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:18,800
years ago as we released his podcast on October twenty second,

1000
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,199
nineteen ninety eight, Rayphail, I remember this fight Ivan Robinson

1001
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:28,280
Arturo Gatti, the fight of the Year for nineteen ninety

1002
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,440
eight All Out Brawl. Tell me tell me more about

1003
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,039
remembrances of this anniversary in the nostalgia.

1004
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: Well, number one, it was the nineteen ninety eight fight

1005
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,559
of the year by most people. Ring Magazine picked it

1006
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:41,480
as the fight of the year. And the thing about

1007
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,119
it is, and this is like the classic example when

1008
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:46,559
we talk about not like worrying about if a fighter

1009
00:45:46,599 --> 00:45:50,119
loses a fight ar Turro. Gotti was in many ways

1010
00:45:50,119 --> 00:45:52,960
like bulletproof to the loss because he was that exciting

1011
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,840
in that entertaining that if he took a loss like okay,

1012
00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:57,840
his fans didn't desert him. They just wanted to see

1013
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,000
more of them. And you know, for his sake, hope

1014
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:02,639
comes back and scores a big win and looks good

1015
00:46:02,679 --> 00:46:04,719
in the next fight. But they never held the losses

1016
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,239
against mem He was a guy that once lost three

1017
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,559
fights in a row and was still fighting on HBO.

1018
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,119
So in this particular fight, they took place in Atlantic City,

1019
00:46:11,159 --> 00:46:14,159
where he was a beloved figure in nineteen ninety eight,

1020
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:17,400
he knocked Ivan Robinson down in the fourth round. And

1021
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,800
Robinson was like a slick boxer but would like to

1022
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,519
engage also, and it was in some exciting fights. I mean,

1023
00:46:23,519 --> 00:46:25,800
they had styles that really meshed well. They liked each other,

1024
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:28,000
you know, that was one thing about Gaddy, like he

1025
00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:30,079
seemed to always like his opponents for the most part,

1026
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:32,400
not everybody, but he had a good relationship. Obviously he

1027
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,519
became great friends with Mickey Ward, but him and Ivan

1028
00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:37,199
Robinson had huge respect for each other. You know, they

1029
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,000
laughed and joked with each other. Not only by the

1030
00:46:40,039 --> 00:46:42,039
way was it picked as the Ring Magazine Fight of

1031
00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:43,679
the Year nineteen ninety eight, but it was also the

1032
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,679
upset of the year because Goaddy was heavily favored obviously

1033
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,159
to win the fight, and this was right before he

1034
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:51,920
took a you know, he was supposed to move on

1035
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,320
to bigger and better things. But the Robinson fight, which

1036
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,599
he lost, was such a fantastic fight that they did

1037
00:46:57,599 --> 00:46:59,880
it again, and the second fight was a tremendous battle,

1038
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:03,159
so was also super close, and he ended up losing

1039
00:47:03,159 --> 00:47:06,280
that fight too, and that's just the way it goes.

1040
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,119
But again, because of Gaddy, who he was, nobody really

1041
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:11,119
cared that he lost fights. You know, like I've said

1042
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:13,440
a million times again, Gaddy is my all time favorite fighter.

1043
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:16,320
I never cared or held it against him. He lost

1044
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,599
three fights in a row because before you know, the

1045
00:47:18,679 --> 00:47:20,280
Robinson fight, I don't think anybody said it was going

1046
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,480
to be like a super easy fight, but he was

1047
00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:25,239
coming off of the loss against angel Manfreddy, which was

1048
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,599
a fight that he lost, you know, in the beginning

1049
00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:30,679
of nineteen ninety In January of that year, that was

1050
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,559
when he had moved up to the one hundred and

1051
00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:34,760
thirty five pound way class that vacated the title at

1052
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,679
one thirty just couldn't make the weight anymore. Was coming

1053
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,119
off the spectacular again fight of the year by some

1054
00:47:40,159 --> 00:47:43,880
people against Gabriel Rowellis that was a spectacular fight. Had

1055
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,840
to fight with man Freddy another tremendous fight that got

1056
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,960
stopped on the cut, and then they were supposed to

1057
00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:51,360
get him like you know, not I can't say an

1058
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,719
easy fight, but I get better kind of fight against

1059
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,360
Robinson and he lost the fight and then he lost.

1060
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,280
Speaker 2: And if you go back and watch this fight, could

1061
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,599
you could have fought it as you like my analogies

1062
00:48:02,599 --> 00:48:04,719
on a bathroom Matt. I mean, there was not a

1063
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,400
lot of lateral movement. It was just toe to tow

1064
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:11,519
for a lot of this close quarters along the ropes,

1065
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,159
you know, and he was close to he could have

1066
00:48:14,199 --> 00:48:14,639
won the fight.

1067
00:48:14,679 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he had Robinson down in the fourth round.

1068
00:48:18,679 --> 00:48:20,280
You know, he had clipped him with a nice shot

1069
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,320
right on the side of the head, like you thought,

1070
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,159
like one of those temple shots where you lose your balance. Yep,

1071
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:26,960
maybe he would lose the count from the ref but

1072
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,639
he got up and Ivan Robinson had big balls and

1073
00:48:28,679 --> 00:48:31,559
a big heart, no doubt about it. You know, Gaddy typical.

1074
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:33,719
His eyes were all puffy, and you know we had

1075
00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:38,360
marks and everything. But you know, just the thing about

1076
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,880
Gaddy is everybody thinks about the Mickey Word trilogy because

1077
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,159
that's the most famous one. And obviously the first fight

1078
00:48:44,199 --> 00:48:45,800
is so legendary, and the third fight was the fight

1079
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,920
of the year, but there are so many other fights

1080
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,239
that Artaro had that were sensational. Both of the Ivan

1081
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,920
Robinson fights. We're talking about the first one obviously, and

1082
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,639
I mentioned before that two fights earlier. You had the

1083
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,519
Ruelles fight that was the fight of the year. And

1084
00:48:57,559 --> 00:49:00,480
then there's my personal favorite fight of Gaddy besides the

1085
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:03,239
Ward fight, and that's the defense against Wilson Rodriguez at

1086
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,159
the Madison Square Garden Theater. That's as dramatic as it gets,

1087
00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:08,840
where the doctors in the corner cover your eye, you know,

1088
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,880
his eyes closed up, and he goes out there, he's

1089
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,800
been knocked around and he finally ends it on a

1090
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,000
massive shot. I mean, the drama that he brought, that's

1091
00:49:18,039 --> 00:49:20,559
why people beloved well, you know, he was a beloved figure,

1092
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,719
and the Ivan Robinson to me, in many ways encapsulates

1093
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,920
that because he lost the fight that he should have won,

1094
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,280
to be quite honest with you, but nobody cared because

1095
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,519
it was such a great fucking fight. And and you know,

1096
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,280
HBO loved the action. The crowd loved the action. Did

1097
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,000
you know he was doing great ratings on on the show.

1098
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,920
And oh so he fucking lost, big fucking Gill. You

1099
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,199
clean him up, give him a rest, and when he

1100
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,960
decides he's ready to come back, you bring him back.

1101
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,119
And that was what Gaddy was all about. And I mean,

1102
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,079
there's so many fans out there that just they they

1103
00:49:47,079 --> 00:49:49,159
weren't alive or they were watching backing back then. But

1104
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,519
you can't even understand the joy in the excitement that

1105
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:54,920
Gaddy would bring when he'd have a fight, Like you

1106
00:49:55,079 --> 00:49:56,639
just go and watch the fight. You're like, I know,

1107
00:49:56,679 --> 00:49:59,280
there's something special is gonna happen. Because Arturro got he's

1108
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,880
fighting tonight. That's the anticipation. You know, it didn't matter

1109
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,440
that it wasn't It didn't matter. It's not like a

1110
00:50:04,519 --> 00:50:06,599
huge title fight or it's you know, a pound for

1111
00:50:06,679 --> 00:50:08,920
pound is at stake, or even in this case, a

1112
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,639
world championship. It was just like, this guy is going

1113
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:13,119
to be in the ring, and he's in with a

1114
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:15,280
good opponent and we're going to see something that we're

1115
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,559
never going to forget. And you know what, more often

1116
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:19,320
than not, that's what Gaddy gave us. And this was

1117
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,519
a perfect example of that.

1118
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: Love that all right, one more nostalgia note. And we

1119
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,559
did talk about this a couple of different times here recently,

1120
00:50:28,599 --> 00:50:32,800
including the anniversary of the death of Salvador Sanchez and

1121
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,840
also his final fight having been three weeks before that.

1122
00:50:36,119 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 1: It's just it's just the confluence, right.

1123
00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty two was what we're talking about. Well, let's

1124
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,239
go back forty three years ago. The official date of

1125
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,320
the Wilfredo Gomez fight is August twenty one, which is

1126
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,920
Wednesday of this past week, forty three years ago.

1127
00:50:50,159 --> 00:50:53,519
Speaker 1: And you are still a yellow death this past week yesterday.

1128
00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 2: It was yesterday as we do this now, right yesterday,

1129
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,920
the twenty first, nineteen eighty one. You're still salivating? Did

1130
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,599
you you have since we talked about this last You've

1131
00:51:01,639 --> 00:51:03,159
now watched this how many times? Two?

1132
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: Four more times? Yeah? I mean I went back and

1133
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:07,320
watched I was doing back.

1134
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 2: What did you discover anything else that you didn't remember whatever?

1135
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,480
From that fight? Great action, Mexico, Puerto Rico, all those

1136
00:51:15,519 --> 00:51:17,239
angles and a great win for Sanchez.

1137
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: Right. I can't say I discovered anything new, but you know,

1138
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,880
because it was the anniversary, I did take the occasion

1139
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,039
to watch the fight again. I'm easily available on YouTube.

1140
00:51:24,039 --> 00:51:27,039
I've got a beautiful DVD of the broadcast, and I

1141
00:51:27,079 --> 00:51:28,679
was doing a piece for my substack. And if you're

1142
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,639
not subscribing, you know, shame on you. But in the piece,

1143
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,960
I went through and I wrote a little bit about

1144
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,159
the fight and used it as the jumping off point

1145
00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:37,679
because as people know, I'm a collector and i've personally

1146
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,519
I've gone out of my way, uh and hunted down

1147
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,079
a number of items that come from the fight. The program,

1148
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:45,639
which is extremely rare, two different versions of the poster,

1149
00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:48,760
which is extremely rare, you know, credential. I have this

1150
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,079
like big, cool looking it's like a big sticker that

1151
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,199
was you know, given away at the fighter. I don't

1152
00:51:54,199 --> 00:51:56,199
even know what how I was distributed, but it's from

1153
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:56,599
the fight.

1154
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 2: You have all of that memorabilia, but you still in

1155
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:00,960
search of.

1156
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I actually wrote that in the piece, I said,

1157
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:05,760
I don't The two things I don't have are a

1158
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,880
ticket from the fight and a press kit from the fight.

1159
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,960
So if anybody's listening, who's got a Salvador Sanchez wel

1160
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,440
Frado Gomez ticket or press kit, hit me up on

1161
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:16,119
social and.

1162
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: Or if you here's another thing, if you know somebody

1163
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,360
that is a collector and might have it because you

1164
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,599
actually had somebody reach out to you, if you're substack

1165
00:52:24,679 --> 00:52:27,920
with hey, I know a guy, like speaking of Gotti

1166
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,119
the third and John Gotti, I know a guy. I

1167
00:52:31,199 --> 00:52:34,119
know a guy that might have a ticket to Sanchez

1168
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Gold Mills forty three years ago.

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Speaker 1: So this is a fight. As I wrote, I mean,

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there are a few things in boxing that I've obsessed

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00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:44,400
over for years, whether it's this fight or the Four

1172
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,039
Kings fights and a few other things. But I just

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00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:49,480
love this fight. We talked about Puerto Rico, Mexico a

1174
00:52:49,519 --> 00:52:51,920
lot in terms of the boxing rivalry that's in the

1175
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,320
news right now, because that's what's one of the main

1176
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,679
talking points of the fight coming up in a few

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weeks between Canelo Alvarez and Edgar Berlanka. Well, in my opinion,

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in Salvador Sanchez against Wilfredo Gomez is the granddaddy of

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00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:06,840
that rivalry. It's not the first fight in the rivalry.

1180
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But to me, it's the most action pack, the most significant,

1181
00:53:10,159 --> 00:53:15,519
the best, the most important. You know, it's just a marvelous, marvelous, outstanding,

1182
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,760
phenomenal fight between two great fighters who were in the

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00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,679
Hall of Fame for different reasons. You know, you can

1184
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,760
certainly make a clear argument that Wilfredo Gomez might be

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00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,800
the number one Puerto Rican fighter of all time Sanchez

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00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,239
if you're not picking Chavez. A lot of people say

1187
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it's Sanchez.

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Speaker 2: He'm Mexican great, right, right, correct.

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Speaker 1: Remember he's only twenty three years old. He died like

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00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,719
about one year after this fight. He was making his

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00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,519
sixth defense. And the thing about it was, he's the

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00:53:43,559 --> 00:53:46,880
reigning featherweight WBC champion, you know, having a great career

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00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,280
and you know, winning against great, top opponents, and now

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00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,519
he's got Gomez, who at that point is definitely his

1195
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:55,599
best opponent. I think to most people's minds, Gomez was

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00:53:55,639 --> 00:53:57,719
the champion in the one hundred and twenty two pound

1197
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,360
weight class who was coming up with weight class. But

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he was a massive, massive puncher. He had scored a draw,

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he had been in a draw in his pro debut,

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00:54:07,079 --> 00:54:08,960
and then he knocked out his next thirty two opponents

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00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,519
in a row. I mean he's not screwed around in

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00:54:11,519 --> 00:54:14,920
cred either, right, fourteen consecutive fights in terms of title

1203
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,920
defenses at one hundred twenty he ultimately went because after

1204
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,400
he lost to Sanchez, he went back down to one

1205
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,039
hundred and twenty two and he continued to defend the

1206
00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:24,519
title a few more times. So in all, he has

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00:54:24,559 --> 00:54:28,599
the record for seventeen junior featherweight title defenses and may

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00:54:28,599 --> 00:54:32,760
I add seventeen title defenses, all by knockout. So when

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00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,199
these two guys met, this is like the number one

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00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,480
Mexican fighter at the time, who was the champ clearly

1211
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,920
in a big time fight against the Puerto Rican legend

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00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:43,880
who's a longtime champion, who has.

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Speaker 2: Knocked out seventeen title challengers in a row, right, fourteen

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00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:51,880
in a row at that point going into this fight.

1215
00:54:52,119 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: That's but thirty back teacher, he was thirty two to

1216
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,599
zero to one going into the fight, had a draw

1217
00:54:58,639 --> 00:55:01,079
in his pro debut, and then knocked out thirty two

1218
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:03,159
guys in a row. And by the way, he had

1219
00:55:03,199 --> 00:55:06,199
been in the Olympics in nineteen seventy two. Gomez was

1220
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,559
a fucking the real deal there you go. So when

1221
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:11,199
they give up and they have this fight, you know,

1222
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:12,599
and it's mind blowing. I mean. One of the best

1223
00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:13,679
things about it, by the way, if you ever go

1224
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,280
watch the video, put put the action in the greatness

1225
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,039
of the fight aside, is the battle of the bands.

1226
00:55:19,079 --> 00:55:21,480
Before they got in the ring. You got the you

1227
00:55:21,559 --> 00:55:24,920
got the Mexican music musicians with the Mariotte. Then you

1228
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,280
got the you got them competing against the band that's

1229
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,239
playing there for the Porto. I don't know if it's

1230
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:30,440
what do they call it? Is it saw some music?

1231
00:55:30,519 --> 00:55:33,360
It was probably part of Puerto Rican music. And they're

1232
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,039
going at it, you know, and Don King with the

1233
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:38,079
big smile, he's loving it. This was a close circuit fight.

1234
00:55:38,119 --> 00:55:39,880
Back in the day, you had to go to usually

1235
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a movie theater to watch it, or you know, a

1236
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,960
nightclub or a restaurant or something like that, a racetrack

1237
00:55:44,039 --> 00:55:45,400
to and buy a ticket to watch.

1238
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 2: I remember watching it a few days later, or maybe

1239
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,920
the next week. On the wide world of sports replay,

1240
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,840
they would always have the replace ten days later.

1241
00:55:52,159 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: It wasn't a week later. It's probably more like probably

1242
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,480
literally probably a multi two later as well. We would

1243
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,679
do remember, so yeah, so it did show up there.

1244
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But the thing about it was it reminds me a

1245
00:56:02,119 --> 00:56:03,639
little bit. One of the fights I covered at the

1246
00:56:03,679 --> 00:56:05,719
very beginning of my career was the great fight between

1247
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,480
Felix Trinidad and Fernando Vargas, where there's so much anticipation

1248
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:12,840
for the fight, and then in the first round of

1249
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,159
that fight, Trinidad knocks Vargas down twice and everybody's like,

1250
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,079
especially after the first dock, They're like, fuck, this fight's

1251
00:56:18,119 --> 00:56:21,000
over all this anticipation, It's gonna be over in thirty seconds.

1252
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,760
It's very similar situation and what happened in Gomez against Sanchez.

1253
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,880
It wasn't two knockdowns, but Sanchez dropped him in the

1254
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,320
first round, like thirty seconds or so into the fight.

1255
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,079
You're like, oh, fuck, this fight's over. Gomez got off

1256
00:56:33,119 --> 00:56:34,840
the deck, he survived, and he made it out of

1257
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,920
the round. And you know, even though Sanchez was kind

1258
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,119
of in control, but Gomes definitely had his moments and

1259
00:56:39,159 --> 00:56:41,079
it was competitive. Then it was a tremendous battle, and

1260
00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:43,280
then finally the cheek is all swollen up and the

1261
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,159
eye is nearly closed and he fucking gets them out.

1262
00:56:45,199 --> 00:56:47,159
Of there in the eighth round. But what I mean,

1263
00:56:47,559 --> 00:56:49,079
I can watch this fight all day long.

1264
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,039
Speaker 2: I can tell YouTube that up, kids, and we cannot

1265
00:56:52,039 --> 00:56:55,679
convey enough what a national hero Salvador Sanchez was. And

1266
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,920
the legend was growing here because he had had those

1267
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,679
two network TVs fights with Danny Little Red Lopez on

1268
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,039
US notework TV before this and before the pay per views.

1269
00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: So and by the way, after after Gomez lost, you know,

1270
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,039
he he came back, you know, in night. You know,

1271
00:57:13,039 --> 00:57:14,639
he took the rest of nineteen eighty one off and

1272
00:57:14,679 --> 00:57:16,239
he was back in the ring in eighty two. He

1273
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:17,760
took a non title fight, or a couple of non

1274
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,559
title fights, whatever it was, but he ultimately made like

1275
00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:22,639
I said to you, he made three more defenses at

1276
00:57:22,679 --> 00:57:24,719
one hundred and twenty two and knocked those guys out.

1277
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,320
And by the way, the last of those fights is

1278
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,760
another spectacular, all time, legendary fucking fight against another great

1279
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,440
Mexican fighter that he you know, he lost to Sanchez,

1280
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,599
but this was the one where he won against Loupey Pintor,

1281
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,000
spectacular one of the great fights in the history of boxing,

1282
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,480
a fourteenth round knockout at the New Orleans Super Dome

1283
00:57:42,519 --> 00:57:46,119
on the undercard of a Tommy Hearns cart another sensational,

1284
00:57:46,239 --> 00:57:50,639
sensational fight, and he ultimately ended up winning the Featherway title.

1285
00:57:50,719 --> 00:57:52,480
You know after that, you know, he didn't get it

1286
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,920
against Sanchez, but he won against Juan Laporte in nineteen

1287
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,000
eighty four and then got knocked out by a Zuma

1288
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,599
Nelson in his next fight. But what a spectacular you know,

1289
00:57:59,679 --> 00:58:02,239
go as he's such a He's a guy that I

1290
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,199
actually I derelic to not giving him the props. Like

1291
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,800
I've grown to love Gomez and I've gone down the

1292
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,960
rabbit hole on YouTube and watched tons of his fights.

1293
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:17,039
I mean, if he was fighting today, the adoration he

1294
00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:21,639
would be packing houses, the punching power, the personality, the swagger,

1295
00:58:22,039 --> 00:58:25,000
the whole thing. I mean, just a spectacular, spectacular fighter.

1296
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:31,239
Speaker 2: Love it, but not That night was forty three years ago,

1297
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,159
on Wednesday, the twenty first of August. And if you

1298
00:58:34,519 --> 00:58:39,719
have a ducat from that night, a collector's ducket Rayfield

1299
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,079
is in the market for a ducat for the Rayfield collection.

1300
00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:46,760
He will purchase trade. He will not offer up Young

1301
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,000
Rayfield is collateral.

1302
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: He'll do so and say that I didn't say that.

1303
00:58:51,039 --> 00:58:53,199
Speaker 2: You better you listen. You better be in line because

1304
00:58:53,199 --> 00:58:55,440
Missus Rayfield's back in town. You better not be offering

1305
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:59,400
up to young Rayfield. All right, Uh, great stuff here.

1306
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:02,639
I would love to tell the audience that we're handicapping

1307
00:59:02,639 --> 00:59:04,599
away on the bet Us Boxing Show, but as we

1308
00:59:04,599 --> 00:59:06,639
covered at the beginning of the show, we're not gonna

1309
00:59:06,639 --> 00:59:08,559
have that on Friday because there's not a prominent fight.

1310
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,360
I don't We got to get creative here on what

1311
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,320
we're going to have for the recap if something crazy happens.

1312
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,559
I guess in the mayweber Gotti three Gotti the third

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00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,639
pay per view. Maybe yes, But we'll get creative with

1314
00:59:20,719 --> 00:59:23,920
other news, other nostalgia, and there may even be an

1315
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,239
interview on the recad a couple of couple of options

1316
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,199
pending interview coming, couple of options. Stay tuned, be with

1317
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,719
us off the weekend on what we call the recap,

1318
00:59:33,719 --> 00:59:36,639
and we'll see what we're recapping. Together with that, my friend,

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00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,519
enjoy the rest of this weekend. I will do the same,

1320
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,400
and we'll reconvene off the weekend Sunday night and a

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Monday on the Fight Freaks Unit Recap podcast.

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Speaker 1: On this very feed.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Dan Rayfield, Bete there is there you go again.

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