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<v Speaker 1>All witnesses, suspects, and persons of interest are considered innocent

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<v Speaker 1>until proven guilty in a court of law. Warning, this

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<v Speaker 1>episode contains graphic crime scene detail. Please listen with discretion.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Primetime Crime. I'm your host, Kylie.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk right now on true crime, and then together

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna work on warming up some cold cases.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, welcome to this week's episode of Primetime Crime.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Kylie.

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<v Speaker 1>We are gonna get into right now on true crime.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a few things to catch up on over

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<v Speaker 1>the last week. So Dwayne Keefie D. Davis was officially

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<v Speaker 1>convicted of first degree murder. They found him guilty of

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<v Speaker 1>his role in Tupac Shakur's murder. And the verdict was

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<v Speaker 1>dropped on August 31st, obviously of 2026, just a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days ago.

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<v Speaker 2>And the jury deliberated for less than three hours.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, obviously the evidence was there to convict him.

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<v Speaker 1>So after 30 years, Tupac was killed in 1996. After

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<v Speaker 1>30 years, we finally have a little sliver of justice

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<v Speaker 1>for Tupac. So his formal sentencing hearing is scheduled for

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<v Speaker 1>October 13th of 2026. And I will be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>keep you guys updated.

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<v Speaker 2>On all of that. And he faces a minimum of

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<v Speaker 2>40 years in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>And prosecutors have said that he could face life.

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<v Speaker 2>In prison that goes along with this sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>So I will be sure to keep you guys updated

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<v Speaker 1>on this one. We're going to have an official sentencing

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<v Speaker 1>in October, so I will be sure to keep you

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<v Speaker 1>guys in the loop. Okay, next order of business, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to talk about the trial against James Elmore Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>He is... one of the people that was involved in

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<v Speaker 1>the death of Laura Miller, who is the daughter of

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Miller. Tim Miller founded Texas EquiSearch following the abduction.

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<v Speaker 2>And murder of his own daughter, Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>Notoriously, if you look Laura up, you also will see

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<v Speaker 1>the quote-unquote Texas Killing Fields murders. There have been a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of bodies found in a very similar geographic area

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<v Speaker 1>off of the I-45 corridor. in Texas, situated between Houston

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<v Speaker 1>and Galveston. There have been more than 30 bodies of

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<v Speaker 1>young women and girls aged 12 to 25 that have

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<v Speaker 1>been discovered in this area since the 1970s. Now, it

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<v Speaker 1>is suspected that not all of these victims are tied

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<v Speaker 1>to a specific killer, but rather there are perpetrators and

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<v Speaker 1>predators who are targeting women and using that as essentially

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<v Speaker 1>their dumping grounds. Now, there have been victims who are

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<v Speaker 1>believed to be tied to a man named Clyde.

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<v Speaker 2>Hedrick, including Laura Miller.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Clyde Hedrick took his life earlier this year, literally

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<v Speaker 1>right before he was probably about to be indicted for

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<v Speaker 1>Laura's murder. So Laura was only 16 years old when

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<v Speaker 1>she disappeared. And then 17 months later, her remains were

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<v Speaker 1>found in a field off Calder Road in League City.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim was Laura's father and never gave up hope that

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to find out what happened to Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>In his testimony, he recalls how he would always go

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<v Speaker 1>to the site that Laura was found, and he felt

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<v Speaker 1>like she was telling him basically not to give up,

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<v Speaker 1>to keep searching, to keep hoping.

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<v Speaker 2>So he did just that.

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<v Speaker 1>In 2000, he founded Texas EquiSearch, and to this date,

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<v Speaker 1>he said during his testimony that the organization has conducted

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<v Speaker 1>searches in 42 states and 11 countries, They've recovered more

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<v Speaker 1>than 400 deceased people and they have found many others alive.

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<v Speaker 1>And he describes this organization as Laura's legacy. And I fully,

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand percent believe in that. I really love seeing

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<v Speaker 1>when people take something tragic and turn it into something

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<v Speaker 1>as beautiful as possible. And in his case, founding Texas EquiSearch,

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<v Speaker 1>it is huge. It is very well known. I talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it very often in this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It is one of the best.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you do have somebody in your life that

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<v Speaker 1>goes missing, you want Texas Echo Search in your corner.

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<v Speaker 1>So how this trial came to be against this James

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<v Speaker 1>Elmore Jr. guy. So Tim Miller testified that he got

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<v Speaker 1>information in 2022 because James Elmore contacted Texas Echo Search

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<v Speaker 1>And he said he wanted to talk about a missing

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<v Speaker 1>persons case and get something off of his chest. So

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<v Speaker 1>Tim then said that in the beginnings of this conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>he identified Clyde Hedrick and Laura Miller as the subjects

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<v Speaker 1>of this conversation. Now, Tim said he was initially skeptical

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<v Speaker 1>because there had been so many false leads over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>but Clyde Hedrick had been identified as a person of

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<v Speaker 1>interest and possible suspect.

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<v Speaker 2>But then Tim.

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<v Speaker 1>Said that James Elmore began directing him to locations and

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<v Speaker 1>describing details that Tim knew were not publicly known. James

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<v Speaker 1>Elmore identified Clyde Hedrick's former home, which was actually two

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<v Speaker 1>And he also identified an area that was located near

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<v Speaker 1>a cemetery where Laura used to spend some time. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>not stuff that was publicly known. Tim Miller testified that

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<v Speaker 1>James Elmore eventually went on to describe being present inside

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<v Speaker 1>of Clyde's home on the night that Laura died. According

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<v Speaker 1>to Tim, James Elmore said that the group of them

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<v Speaker 1>had been using drugs and that James Elmore was the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who had mixed the drugs, so he mixed cocaine

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<v Speaker 1>in a syringe. And then Tim Miller testified that James

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<v Speaker 1>Elmore then said that Clyde Hedrick asked him to prepare

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<v Speaker 1>another syringe of this cocaine mixture. And he said that

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<v Speaker 1>he mixed up another syringe and then handed it to Clyde.

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<v Speaker 1>James Elmore said that he told Clyde not to use it.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Tim Miller testified that James Elmore told him

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<v Speaker 1>that Clyde Hedrick then injected Laura with this mixture. And

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<v Speaker 1>then that led to Laura passing away. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>covered Laura with a Western-style shirt. And then her remains

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<v Speaker 1>were found where I talked about earlier. Now, Tim Miller

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<v Speaker 1>did testify that James Elmore described the shirt and then

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<v Speaker 1>later recognized it in a photograph.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a shirt found near Laura's body.

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<v Speaker 1>James Elmore also went into detail to Tim Miller about

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<v Speaker 1>the death of Audrey Cook, who James Elmore said that

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<v Speaker 1>she was shot in the back with a. 22 caliber weapon.

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<v Speaker 1>after she rejected Clyde's sexual advances. And her autopsy did

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<v Speaker 1>show that she had been shot in the lower back

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<v Speaker 1>with a.

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<v Speaker 2>22 caliber round.

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<v Speaker 1>So the details that James Elmore was giving to Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Miller very much did match up with law enforcement's evidence

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<v Speaker 1>and information that they had. James Elmore also provided other

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<v Speaker 1>information about another missing woman in a trip to Louisiana,

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<v Speaker 1>which was supported by an interview with that woman's son.

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<v Speaker 2>So investigators do.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe that Clyde Hedrick killed Laura, Audrey Cook, and the

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<v Speaker 1>other woman, and the detective testified that the authorities were

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<v Speaker 1>preparing to seek indictments against Clyde Hedrick in the four killings. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, he took his own life, so unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>that cannot happen. But they were able to bring manslaughter

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<v Speaker 1>charges up against James Elmore Jr., and the trial started Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am recording this on Wednesday, and the jury

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<v Speaker 1>has found him guilty of manslaughter connected to the deaths

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<v Speaker 1>of Laura Miller and Audrey Cook. So that was the

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<v Speaker 1>quickest turnaround for a trial and a verdict I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's great. I am so glad it did

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<v Speaker 1>not take them long. I'm glad that Tim Miller got

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<v Speaker 1>up there and told them everything. And also, let's cheer

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<v Speaker 1>on Tim Miller for doing what he did in this

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<v Speaker 1>case because he single-handedly started communicating with a man who

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<v Speaker 1>had information possibly about his daughter's murder. He even would

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<v Speaker 1>go out to the area where Laura's remains were found

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<v Speaker 1>with James Elmore Jr. And they would talk about things.

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<v Speaker 1>And he would give him all this information. James Elmore Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>would talk to Tim about what happened. And he single-handedly,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, helped crack his own daughter's case. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think if there's anything that I'm not surprised about

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<v Speaker 1>is that Tim Miller is the one who solved his

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<v Speaker 1>own daughter's murder. I know law enforcement had their hand

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<v Speaker 1>in things, and I know all of that, but I

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<v Speaker 1>truly do believe that if he hadn't done what he

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<v Speaker 1>did in basically talking to James Elmore... that we might

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<v Speaker 1>not be in this position now. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that is amazing. And I think that Laura always coming

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<v Speaker 1>through and telling him, don't give up, don't give up,

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<v Speaker 1>don't give up, led to this moment. And I do

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<v Speaker 1>think that there is going to be more to come

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<v Speaker 1>on this. So I'm going to be sure to keep

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<v Speaker 1>you guys updated. But I grew up knowing the name

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<v Speaker 1>Laura Miller, having lived outside of the Houston area my

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<v Speaker 1>whole life. I have always known Laura's case and I

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<v Speaker 1>am so glad to live in a world now in

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<v Speaker 1>2026 where I'm able to tell you that there has

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<v Speaker 1>at least been some movement in her case and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>some of the other victims as well will also get

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<v Speaker 1>their justice. So in other terror person's news from one

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<v Speaker 1>criminal to the next, Singer, and I use that term

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<v Speaker 1>very lightly, David, D4VD, as he goes by on whatever

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<v Speaker 1>platform he was viral on, David Anthony Burke, who is

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<v Speaker 1>set to face death murder charges for the murder of

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<v Speaker 1>Celeste Rivas Hernandez. His lawyers have withdrawn from his case,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is now going to be represented by a

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<v Speaker 1>public defender. And I think that this is great news.

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<v Speaker 1>I think karma is slowly going to work its way

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<v Speaker 1>to David. This man allegedly... is horrific, absolutely horrific. I

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<v Speaker 1>read the affidavit. I am disgusted, utterly disgusted by everything

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<v Speaker 1>that this man allegedly did. And I just can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>for this one to play out in the court system.

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to be staying on top of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But as of right now, he is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>being represented by a public defender. And I personally love

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<v Speaker 1>this for him. Okay, we are getting into the I

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<v Speaker 1>am starting the recording of this on Wednesday. So as

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<v Speaker 1>of right now, there is no verdict. The jury cannot agree.

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<v Speaker 1>They have been sent back multiple times. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about this situation that happened yesterday after court.

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<v Speaker 1>This woman allegedly was filming the jurors. And she obviously

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<v Speaker 1>was called on it. She actually got arrested and was

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<v Speaker 1>in court this morning on it. She said it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>her intention to record the juror. She was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>catch a glimpse of Lindsay and record her. But initially

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<v Speaker 1>it was reported as juror intimidation, which is obviously not okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And it has turned into a whole thing. So she

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<v Speaker 2>was in court this morning. She was arraigned.

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<v Speaker 1>And this woman is 56 years old. She is a

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<v Speaker 1>retired nurse. She has pled not guilty and has been

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<v Speaker 1>ordered to stay away from the courthouse. Prosecutors have been

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<v Speaker 1>asked that she be held on a $ 50, 000 cash bond,

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<v Speaker 1>but the judge did deny the request. She has agreed

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<v Speaker 1>to stay away from the courthouse and not to have

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<v Speaker 1>any contact with anybody associated with the case. And she

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<v Speaker 1>is going to appear in court on October 15th. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>keep you guys updated on this one. There has been

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<v Speaker 1>so much going on surrounding the Clancy trial. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to stop right there for now because I would

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<v Speaker 1>imagine tomorrow is going to bring a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>of something that I can actually talk about because right

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<v Speaker 1>now we have a jury that has not been able

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<v Speaker 1>to come to a unanimous decision, and they are obviously

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<v Speaker 1>very tired. I think that they are going to declare

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<v Speaker 2>I think the jury is hung.

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<v Speaker 1>we are on Thursday, and we still don't have a verdict.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was an issue today in court. The jury

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<v Speaker 1>continued their deliberations, and then they sent another note to

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<v Speaker 1>where the defense attorney, Kevin Reddington, was visibly upset. And

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<v Speaker 1>And then they ended up bringing Lindsey Clancy as well

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<v Speaker 1>to the sidebar. And each of the deliberating jurors was

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<v Speaker 1>the sidebar. while the attorneys and Lindsay looked on. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not exactly clear what the judge was asking each

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<v Speaker 1>the instructions that were given. And then he reread the

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<v Speaker 1>instruction about reasonable doubt. Kevin Reddington objected to the way

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<v Speaker 1>that the issue was handled and revealed that he was

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<v Speaker 1>concerned and that this concern involved a specific juror that

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<v Speaker 1>is refusing to listen to the law on reasonable doubt

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<v Speaker 1>and is not following the instructions. So it does seem

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<v Speaker 1>that there is one holdout. And that person seems to

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<v Speaker 2>So Kevin wanted to remove the.

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<v Speaker 1>Juror and have them replaced by one of the alternates.

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<v Speaker 1>But the judge declined to remove the juror because this

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<v Speaker 1>has obviously been a long bout of deliberations and there

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<v Speaker 1>is just so much going on. So the jury has

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<v Speaker 1>continue their investigation said deliberations. I don't know where this

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<v Speaker 1>is going. I can't believe that we are still here.

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<v Speaker 1>And it does seem that there is just this one

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<v Speaker 1>person that is a holdout. Now, whether it's a holdout

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<v Speaker 1>for actual reason or there is a misunderstanding in the instruction,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not really sure on that, but it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like it is ongoing. So there's so much going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm overwhelmed and I will try to keep you guys updated.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have talked entirely too long on this right

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<v Speaker 1>now on True Crime. So we are going to go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and get into today's episode. Okay, guys, we are

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<v Speaker 1>jumping in to a brand new unsolved case today. In

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<v Speaker 1>this week's episode, I'm going to be sharing about the

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<v Speaker 1>suspicious death of 17-year-old Danny Violet out of Willard, Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>in 1998. Now, this case originally didn't get much media

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<v Speaker 1>attention when it happened, and I do think over the

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<v Speaker 1>a number of podcasts that have covered it, including Culpable,

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<v Speaker 1>who did a long-form series on Danny's story back in

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<v Speaker 1>2025 in cooperation with Danny's family. It was a huge

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<v Speaker 1>source that I used for this episode to fill in

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<v Speaker 1>the gaps because honestly, there wasn't a whole lot out

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<v Speaker 1>there about Danny's death. I will be sure to link

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast in the show notes, but it is season four.

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<v Speaker 1>So I highly suggest you guys go and check it

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<v Speaker 1>out because it really does go into deep detail. But

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<v Speaker 1>there still are so many unanswered questions to this day

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<v Speaker 1>about what exactly happened to Danny. So that is why

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<v Speaker 1>we are here to tell Danny's story and bring a

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go ahead and get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Danny Violet was born on February 23rd of 1981

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<v Speaker 1>in San Diego, California, to his parents, Daniel and Jane Violet.

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<v Speaker 1>He had two brothers, Drew and Ross, and a sister

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<v Speaker 1>named Caroline. Danny was the oldest child of his siblings

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<v Speaker 1>and was always very protective over them, but Danny was

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly close with his youngest brother, Drew. Although they did

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<v Speaker 1>have a five-year age gap, they were incredibly, incredibly close.

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<v Speaker 1>But to this day, Drew is the driving force behind

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<v Speaker 1>Danny's story and working to get justice for his brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Prior to moving to Willard, Ohio in 1991, Danny and

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<v Speaker 1>his family moved lived in Washington, Japan, and Long Beach, California.

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<v Speaker 1>Since Danny's father was in the military, they bounced around

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<v Speaker 1>and moved around a lot. But once he retired, they

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<v Speaker 1>finally settled down for good in Willard, Ohio, at a

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<v Speaker 1>house that was located on West Tiffin Street. Danny was

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<v Speaker 1>17 years old and a student at Willard High School

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<v Speaker 1>and the Pioneer Career and Technology Center, where.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a junior in the welding program.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, the Pioneer Career and Technology Center is described as

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio's fifth largest public vocational school serving high school juniors

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<v Speaker 1>and seniors, as well as adult learners across the region.

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<v Speaker 1>It offers hands-on career technical education, specialized professional certifications, and

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<v Speaker 1>a modern lab design to build high-demand workforce skills. So

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<v Speaker 1>Danny was learning welding, which honestly, I do think there

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<v Speaker 1>should be more programs offered like this to high school students.

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<v Speaker 1>They are great programs and great skills to learn and

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<v Speaker 1>can translate to a wonderful career. And these are the

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<v Speaker 1>type of jobs that are very in demand and they

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<v Speaker 1>are great careers for people. So Danny was a wrestler

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<v Speaker 1>and he lettered in wrestling in 1997 and was voted

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<v Speaker 1>the most improved wrestler. He also loved soccer, basketball, swimming

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<v Speaker 1>and football. In his free time, he enjoyed fishing, rollerblading,

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<v Speaker 1>video games, and hunting. Danny attended church at the First

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<v Speaker 1>Assembly of God in Willard. Danny was well-liked by his

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<v Speaker 1>family and friends. He was described as adventurous, daring, and

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<v Speaker 1>competitive with a wry sense of humor. He was loyal

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<v Speaker 1>to his friends and would do anything for them. So

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, Danny was very well-liked, very popular, and

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<v Speaker 1>he had a very laid-back type of personality. which would

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<v Speaker 1>often cause him to butt heads with his dad, Daniel,

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<v Speaker 1>who was very military-like style and regimented. So they would

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<v Speaker 1>butt heads. They would occasionally get into arguments. And as

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<v Speaker 1>a normal teenager, Danny just kind of began to rebel.

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<v Speaker 1>Danny began to use recreational drugs, and he would drink,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes he would throw parties when his parents weren't home.

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<v Speaker 1>Oftentimes when he would get into disagreements with his dad,

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<v Speaker 1>he would leave home to cool off and often spend

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<v Speaker 1>the next couple of days at a friend's house, but

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<v Speaker 1>he would always return home. Danny's brother, Drew, said that

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<v Speaker 1>Danny did get into a lot of trouble and he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really the best student, but he really wanted to wrestle,

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<v Speaker 1>so he knew that if he wanted to be involved

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<v Speaker 1>in wrestling, that he needed to try and keep his

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<v Speaker 1>grades up. One of the last conversations that Daniel had

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<v Speaker 1>up his grades in order to keep wrestling. Jane, Danny's mom,

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<v Speaker 1>told a story about how once Danny had gotten in

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<v Speaker 1>trouble for shoplifting cigarettes. And this is a story that

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<v Speaker 1>she told on the Culpable podcast. She discusses how the

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<v Speaker 1>judge made Danny write a paper about why he was

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<v Speaker 1>getting in trouble. And in that paper, she said that

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote about having a good set of friends and

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<v Speaker 1>then having a bad set of friends and that he

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<v Speaker 1>could be very easily influenced. So when he was around

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<v Speaker 1>the good set of friends, he was making good choices

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<v Speaker 1>and good decisions. And when he was around the bad

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<v Speaker 1>set of friends, he was making bad choices and bad decisions,

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<v Speaker 1>which I do think for any normal teenager, this is

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<v Speaker 1>not out of the ordinary. This is very normal behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>Teenagers are very, very easily influenced, and they could be

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<v Speaker 1>influenced in a good way or influenced in a bad way.

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<v Speaker 1>During Danny's sophomore year, he was diagnosed with bipolar disorder

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<v Speaker 1>after he had an episode at school, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>to be admitted to a psychiatric hospital. He was prescribed

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<v Speaker 1>lithium along with Seroquel. And the medicines did seem to

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<v Speaker 1>help Danny at times, but Danny was also using recreational

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<v Speaker 1>drugs and drinking alcohol, which obviously wasn't great because of

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<v Speaker 1>the prescription meds that he was taking. So we're now

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<v Speaker 1>going to get into the timeline leading up to Danny

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<v Speaker 1>going missing. So the night is Friday, October 23rd of 1998.

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<v Speaker 1>And after school, Danny decided to hang out with some

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<v Speaker 1>He just went straight to hang out with his friends.

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<v Speaker 1>But he typically would let his parents know what his

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<v Speaker 1>plans were. But this time, he didn't do that. That night,

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<v Speaker 1>it is reported that Danny and his friends did LSD together.

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<v Speaker 1>Danny had an adverse reaction to the LSD and reacted

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<v Speaker 1>after being exposed to a strobe light and had a

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<v Speaker 1>seizure as a result. Danny didn't return home until the

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon the next day, Saturday around 1 p.m. So Jane

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<v Speaker 1>about Danny because he seemed pretty out of it and

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't acting like himself. She sat him down in

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<v Speaker 1>And then she went and let her husband Daniel know

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<v Speaker 1>that there was something going on with Danny.

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<v Speaker 2>When she went to go get Daniel.

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<v Speaker 1>Danny got up and left the home once again, saying

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<v Speaker 1>goodbye to his younger brother, Ross, who was outside at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. That would be the last time that Ross

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<v Speaker 1>would see his brother. So Jane and Daniel would spend

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the day searching for Danny. Typically, they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be overly concerned, but Jane just got a feeling

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<v Speaker 2>They searched all of.

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<v Speaker 1>The common hangout spots and contacted all of his friends

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<v Speaker 1>to see if they had seen Danny, but they hadn't.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew that this was very unusual for him just

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<v Speaker 1>to run off, and since he didn't look well when

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<v Speaker 1>Jane saw him in the kitchen, they were worried. Jane

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<v Speaker 1>and Daniel reported him missing on Sunday, October 25th. Danny

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<v Speaker 1>and a pair of black Nikes. The family held out

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<v Speaker 1>hope that Danny would be found and that he was okay.

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<v Speaker 1>In the next days, there would be some people that

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<v Speaker 1>came forward with sightings of Danny. One tip came in

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<v Speaker 1>that said that they saw Danny on the 24th, and

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<v Speaker 1>they said they saw Danny crossing the tracks to Willard's

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<v Speaker 1>east side. Another witness said they saw him at the

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<v Speaker 1>YMCA on the east side on that same day. Another

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<v Speaker 1>witness said they saw Danny at a grocery store, Meisler's

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<v Speaker 1>grocery store, that was located at 20 Woodland Avenue at

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<v Speaker 1>7 p.m. that night, and he wasn't wearing any shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>When Danny was at this grocery store, he was looking

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<v Speaker 1>for certain friends to meet up with to attend a

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<v Speaker 1>party that night. Now, that was the last known sighting

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<v Speaker 1>of Danny Violet. Now, the east side of Willard wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest. Drew said on the Culpable podcast that that

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<v Speaker 1>were running with a shady crowd or looking to buy drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>So then the week started and Danny's family got a

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<v Speaker 1>call from the school that Danny was in fact in

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<v Speaker 1>school and marked present in class. They went to the

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<v Speaker 1>them worrying about him. But when they got there, they

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<v Speaker 1>realized that there had been a mistake. Danny wasn't present.

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<v Speaker 1>He was, in fact, marked absent. So the hope that

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<v Speaker 1>they had gotten had unfortunately been ripped away, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were back to wondering and worrying about where Danny was. They,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, continued to try and hold out hope that

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<v Speaker 1>Danny would come home. But sadly, on November 4th of 1998,

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<v Speaker 1>A police officer from the Willard Police Department came to

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<v Speaker 1>but he was no longer alive. Drew remembers the moment

421
00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:30.579
<v Speaker 1>he was told his brother was no longer alive. He

422
00:25:30.619 --> 00:25:33.460
<v Speaker 1>was only 12 years old at the time, and this

423
00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:37.779
<v Speaker 1>news just completely changed his life forever. The details of

424
00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:41.970
<v Speaker 1>Danny's death were alarming. Danny was found in a cornfield

425
00:25:42.089 --> 00:25:45.269
<v Speaker 1>by a farmer who was tending to his crops. His

426
00:25:45.369 --> 00:25:49.150
<v Speaker 1>lifeless body was found wearing only his blue jeans. He

427
00:25:49.210 --> 00:25:53.390
<v Speaker 1>had no shirt on. According to the autopsy report, Danny

428
00:25:53.430 --> 00:25:58.660
<v Speaker 1>died from asphyxiation. He had post-mortem abrasions, which indicated his

429
00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:02.480
<v Speaker 1>body had been moved from one location to another. There

430
00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:06.380
<v Speaker 1>were also patterns across his chest resembling a tire tread.

431
00:26:07.109 --> 00:26:11.230
<v Speaker 1>suggesting an ATV may have ran him over, and he

432
00:26:11.329 --> 00:26:14.819
<v Speaker 1>also had ligature marks around his neck, but there was

433
00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:18.500
<v Speaker 1>no ligature found at the scene. Danny's shirt was missing.

434
00:26:19.059 --> 00:26:21.900
<v Speaker 1>The next day, investigators were called back to the scene

435
00:26:21.980 --> 00:26:25.349
<v Speaker 1>because something else had been found. There was torn up

436
00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:28.869
<v Speaker 1>money found at the scene near his body, $ 6 to

437
00:26:28.910 --> 00:26:32.210
<v Speaker 1>be exact, along with a wallet that did in fact

438
00:26:32.269 --> 00:26:35.940
<v Speaker 1>belong to Danny. and a gray Michigan shirt that he

439
00:26:35.980 --> 00:26:39.480
<v Speaker 1>was last seen wearing. Now, this could mean one of

440
00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:43.529
<v Speaker 1>two things. Either during the initial search of the area,

441
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:47.509
<v Speaker 1>they overlooked these items, or they were dumped after the fact,

442
00:26:47.589 --> 00:26:50.630
<v Speaker 1>and I do think that this is very important. They

443
00:26:50.670 --> 00:26:54.269
<v Speaker 1>weren't found that far away from where Danny's body was found,

444
00:26:54.349 --> 00:26:57.529
<v Speaker 1>but it could very well mean that the people that

445
00:26:57.569 --> 00:27:01.190
<v Speaker 1>went to the scene and discovered Danny's body didn't thoroughly

446
00:27:01.309 --> 00:27:04.549
<v Speaker 1>search the area surrounding and they possibly could have missed

447
00:27:04.589 --> 00:27:08.269
<v Speaker 1>these items. But it also is entirely possible that the

448
00:27:08.410 --> 00:27:12.309
<v Speaker 1>items were dumped after the body had already been recovered.

449
00:27:12.509 --> 00:27:14.609
<v Speaker 1>And like I said, I do think this is a

450
00:27:14.690 --> 00:27:19.880
<v Speaker 1>very important little bit of information. So Despite all of this,

451
00:27:20.339 --> 00:27:25.140
<v Speaker 1>Danny's death was listed as unknown. The lacerations to his

452
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:28.559
<v Speaker 1>neck were not consistent with hanging, so this ruled out

453
00:27:28.660 --> 00:27:32.349
<v Speaker 1>that Danny did anything to try and harm himself. Whoever

454
00:27:32.470 --> 00:27:35.250
<v Speaker 1>did do this to Danny took the ligature with them

455
00:27:35.430 --> 00:27:37.089
<v Speaker 1>because it was never found.

456
00:27:37.230 --> 00:27:38.509
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't found at the scene.

457
00:27:39.329 --> 00:27:43.799
<v Speaker 1>From a toxicology standpoint, reports showed no alcohol or lithium

458
00:27:43.859 --> 00:27:47.599
<v Speaker 1>was found in Danny's system. There was trace amounts of LSD,

459
00:27:48.349 --> 00:27:52.430
<v Speaker 1>and an anti-seizure medicine present in his system. Now, this

460
00:27:52.589 --> 00:27:57.009
<v Speaker 1>anti-seizure medicine was not a medicine that Danny was prescribed.

461
00:27:57.730 --> 00:28:00.329
<v Speaker 1>Danny's death was believed to have taken place on the

462
00:28:00.470 --> 00:28:04.509
<v Speaker 1>evening of October 24th or the early morning hours of

463
00:28:04.609 --> 00:28:08.910
<v Speaker 1>October 25th. Now, I will say, if you listen to

464
00:28:08.990 --> 00:28:12.779
<v Speaker 1>the Culpable podcast or go to the Facebook page that

465
00:28:12.819 --> 00:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Danny's family has set up for him, they go into detail.

466
00:28:16.950 --> 00:28:20.720
<v Speaker 1>about who exactly Danny was with that evening. Different friends

467
00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:23.400
<v Speaker 1>of his who were brought in for questioning and such,

468
00:28:23.460 --> 00:28:26.940
<v Speaker 1>and there was a lot of back and forth interviews

469
00:28:26.980 --> 00:28:31.299
<v Speaker 1>with them. They play the interviews on the podcast, and

470
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:35.180
<v Speaker 1>it all really is very, very interesting. Now, there is

471
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:38.180
<v Speaker 1>a redacted individual that is brought up in the police

472
00:28:38.220 --> 00:28:42.859
<v Speaker 1>interviews that allegedly had given Danny some LSD, but Danny

473
00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>never paid him. And this person had allegedly made comments

474
00:28:47.019 --> 00:28:49.750
<v Speaker 1>about how Danny needed to pay him or he would

475
00:28:49.809 --> 00:28:53.750
<v Speaker 1>have to, quote, beat his ass. Now, that is alleged.

476
00:28:54.029 --> 00:28:59.910
<v Speaker 1>And the comments, again, allegedly were made after Danny's disappearance. Now,

477
00:29:00.049 --> 00:29:02.210
<v Speaker 1>I think if you're looking at it in the way

478
00:29:02.259 --> 00:29:05.700
<v Speaker 1>that I'm looking at it, the ripped up money was interesting.

479
00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>If you think about its correlation to this statement. It

480
00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:13.460
<v Speaker 1>seemed to kind of suggest that maybe there was something

481
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:17.319
<v Speaker 1>involving money and debt over drugs that led to Danny

482
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:21.170
<v Speaker 1>losing his life. And maybe Danny only had $ 6 on

483
00:29:21.230 --> 00:29:24.009
<v Speaker 1>him and he offered to pay said.

484
00:29:24.069 --> 00:29:26.650
<v Speaker 2>Drug dealer allegedly $ 6.

485
00:29:26.009 --> 00:29:30.130
<v Speaker 1>And then the money was ripped up as kind of

486
00:29:30.410 --> 00:29:33.839
<v Speaker 1>a way to say, I don't want your $ 6. And

487
00:29:33.910 --> 00:29:39.609
<v Speaker 1>the money was actually torn up. So obviously somebody tore

488
00:29:39.650 --> 00:29:41.660
<v Speaker 1>the money up. up and it doesn't make any sense

489
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:43.579
<v Speaker 1>to me that Danny would have torn the money up.

490
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>So we obviously, in my opinion, are working with someone

491
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:51.940
<v Speaker 1>on the outside. Now, the loss of Danny weighed heavily

492
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>on the Violets and eventually Daniel and Jane separated and divorced.

493
00:29:57.539 --> 00:30:00.900
<v Speaker 1>Despite all of this evidence that pointed towards foul play,

494
00:30:01.099 --> 00:30:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Danny's manner of death has never been changed from unknown.

495
00:30:05.900 --> 00:30:09.589
<v Speaker 1>Drew said that the family has received very little information

496
00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:14.529
<v Speaker 1>since 1998 about Danny's case, and quickly it became cold

497
00:30:14.670 --> 00:30:17.650
<v Speaker 1>with no leads or persons of interest, and there was

498
00:30:17.789 --> 00:30:20.569
<v Speaker 1>nobody that was coming forward with any information.

499
00:30:21.470 --> 00:30:22.970
<v Speaker 2>In December of 2014, a press conference was held.

500
00:30:26.869 --> 00:30:31.009
<v Speaker 1>At the Huron County Sheriff's Office, it had been 16

501
00:30:31.009 --> 00:30:35.210
<v Speaker 1>years since Danny's mysterious death. And Jane and Daniel were

502
00:30:35.369 --> 00:30:39.670
<v Speaker 1>asking anyone for information to please come forward and help

503
00:30:39.710 --> 00:30:42.339
<v Speaker 1>them in their search for what exactly happened to Danny.

504
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:45.779
<v Speaker 1>This wasn't your typical type of press conference where law

505
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>enforcement was coming forward saying that they had information or

506
00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:52.619
<v Speaker 1>a break in the case. It was basically Danny's family

507
00:30:52.700 --> 00:30:57.269
<v Speaker 1>coming forward and asking for help. In 2020, Drew started

508
00:30:57.369 --> 00:31:00.849
<v Speaker 1>to work and talk with a woman named Danielle, who

509
00:31:00.869 --> 00:31:04.430
<v Speaker 1>had been looking into Danny's case as she was married

510
00:31:04.509 --> 00:31:07.130
<v Speaker 1>to a man who went to school with and knew Danny.

511
00:31:07.769 --> 00:31:11.230
<v Speaker 1>Danielle is actually the one who wrote into the Culpable

512
00:31:11.289 --> 00:31:14.740
<v Speaker 1>podcast and pitched Danny's case to them, and the rest

513
00:31:14.819 --> 00:31:18.220
<v Speaker 1>is history. She has been a driving force in keeping

514
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:21.500
<v Speaker 1>Danny's case in the forefront. She knew that there was

515
00:31:21.619 --> 00:31:24.549
<v Speaker 1>a lot of rumor and a lot of speculation surrounding

516
00:31:24.710 --> 00:31:27.589
<v Speaker 1>Danny's case, and she very much wanted to put all

517
00:31:27.609 --> 00:31:30.849
<v Speaker 1>of the rumors and everything else to rest and find

518
00:31:30.910 --> 00:31:34.109
<v Speaker 1>out once and for all what actually happened to Danny.

519
00:31:34.710 --> 00:31:37.549
<v Speaker 1>There were so many rumors that Danny had passed away

520
00:31:37.589 --> 00:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>from a drug overdose, and that simply wasn't the case.

521
00:31:42.269 --> 00:31:45.569
<v Speaker 1>There's also been a lot of talk about Danny's lifestyle

522
00:31:45.690 --> 00:31:48.789
<v Speaker 1>and things he was involved in that ultimately led to

523
00:31:48.849 --> 00:31:49.349
<v Speaker 1>his death.

524
00:31:49.809 --> 00:31:52.589
<v Speaker 2>But truly, at least for me, there.

525
00:31:52.450 --> 00:31:55.990
<v Speaker 1>Was nothing that Danny was doing any different than any

526
00:31:56.059 --> 00:31:59.859
<v Speaker 1>other high school student in the late 90s. And none

527
00:31:59.900 --> 00:32:03.660
<v Speaker 1>of his other classmates and friends ended up mysteriously dead

528
00:32:03.740 --> 00:32:08.079
<v Speaker 1>in a cornfield. So let's stop putting the blame on

529
00:32:08.259 --> 00:32:12.710
<v Speaker 1>the victim. And let's actually blame the person or persons

530
00:32:13.190 --> 00:32:17.759
<v Speaker 1>who are responsible here. Because Danny was in high school.

531
00:32:17.940 --> 00:32:21.700
<v Speaker 1>He was a normal teenage boy. The people that surrounded

532
00:32:21.740 --> 00:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>him were involved in the same type of things he

533
00:32:24.299 --> 00:32:25.140
<v Speaker 1>was involved in.

534
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:28.400
<v Speaker 2>And Danny is the one who ended up losing his life.

535
00:32:29.180 --> 00:32:33.910
<v Speaker 1>Danielle's involvement, along with the Culpable podcast, has also led

536
00:32:33.970 --> 00:32:37.450
<v Speaker 1>to the involvement of a program at Tiffin University called

537
00:32:37.490 --> 00:32:41.759
<v Speaker 1>the Cold Case Fellowship. Now, this gives students an inside

538
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:45.029
<v Speaker 1>look and a chance to be involved in cold case investigation.

539
00:32:45.049 --> 00:32:47.769
<v Speaker 1>I really wish that something like this would have been

540
00:32:47.890 --> 00:32:49.990
<v Speaker 1>offered when I was in college because I would have

541
00:32:50.029 --> 00:32:53.630
<v Speaker 1>been all over it. I think these programs are amazing

542
00:32:53.769 --> 00:32:57.150
<v Speaker 1>and are truly helping the future of cold cases across

543
00:32:57.190 --> 00:33:00.799
<v Speaker 1>the country. And this is discussed in detail on the

544
00:33:00.859 --> 00:33:04.299
<v Speaker 1>Culpable podcast. They do a lot of really great work

545
00:33:04.740 --> 00:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>with Tiffin University, and they worked really hard on Danny's case.

546
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:11.119
<v Speaker 1>And I do think that they really helped propel a

547
00:33:11.180 --> 00:33:14.759
<v Speaker 1>lot of this forward in Danny's case. But as always,

548
00:33:14.940 --> 00:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>with any cold case that you're dealing with, it is

549
00:33:17.500 --> 00:33:18.940
<v Speaker 1>a work in progress, and.

550
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:19.819
<v Speaker 2>It is constantly.

551
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:24.809
<v Speaker 1>challenging and making people jump through hoops to make any

552
00:33:24.869 --> 00:33:28.089
<v Speaker 1>type of change or make any type of progress. So

553
00:33:28.750 --> 00:33:31.430
<v Speaker 1>we are getting in now to, in my opinion, the

554
00:33:31.470 --> 00:33:34.950
<v Speaker 1>most frustrating part of this case, and this is ongoing,

555
00:33:35.190 --> 00:33:39.190
<v Speaker 1>active as we speak. So with everything that was recovered

556
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:43.599
<v Speaker 1>in Danny's case, they obviously have quite a few items

557
00:33:43.700 --> 00:33:48.829
<v Speaker 1>that are potential for DNA testing. We have Danny's shirt

558
00:33:49.069 --> 00:33:50.710
<v Speaker 1>that was not on his body.

559
00:33:50.900 --> 00:33:53.779
<v Speaker 2>We have his wallet. We have the torn up money.

560
00:33:54.220 --> 00:33:57.200
<v Speaker 1>There are definitely things that were recovered from the scene

561
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.900
<v Speaker 1>that had to have been handled by somebody other than Danny.

562
00:34:01.309 --> 00:34:04.410
<v Speaker 1>Danny didn't rip up his own $ 6 and throw it

563
00:34:04.430 --> 00:34:07.619
<v Speaker 1>in a cornfield. That doesn't make any sense. So we're

564
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.860
<v Speaker 1>going to get into the whole saga of the DNA

565
00:34:11.010 --> 00:34:14.329
<v Speaker 1>and the DNA testing now, because I truly do believe

566
00:34:14.369 --> 00:34:18.269
<v Speaker 1>that this is probably where the answers lie. But for

567
00:34:18.329 --> 00:34:23.309
<v Speaker 1>some reason, even though DNA testing has been completed, the

568
00:34:23.510 --> 00:34:28.929
<v Speaker 1>family nor nobody besides the Willard Police Department have any

569
00:34:29.050 --> 00:34:32.789
<v Speaker 1>idea what the results of this testing were. So at

570
00:34:32.849 --> 00:34:37.530
<v Speaker 1>the end of 2024, Danny's family, along with Danielle, started

571
00:34:37.610 --> 00:34:42.460
<v Speaker 1>inquiring about the physical evidence that had been preserved. Like

572
00:34:42.539 --> 00:34:45.679
<v Speaker 1>I said, the money, his clothing, all of that kind

573
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:48.480
<v Speaker 1>of stuff that was left behind. And of course, it

574
00:34:48.539 --> 00:34:52.380
<v Speaker 1>had been tested back in 1998 when DNA testing was

575
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:55.610
<v Speaker 1>not what it is today. So they inquired about getting

576
00:34:55.730 --> 00:35:02.360
<v Speaker 1>it retested, obviously using 2024 technology versus 1998 technology. They

577
00:35:02.460 --> 00:35:05.559
<v Speaker 1>ended up reaching out to Sorenson Forensics, which is a

578
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:10.809
<v Speaker 1>private DNA analysis laboratory. And they did end up finding

579
00:35:10.889 --> 00:35:13.369
<v Speaker 1>out that they could, in fact, retest these items. And

580
00:35:13.409 --> 00:35:16.849
<v Speaker 1>they got a quote for about $ 6, 000, which.

581
00:35:16.809 --> 00:35:18.110
<v Speaker 2>Was very doable.

582
00:35:18.469 --> 00:35:21.949
<v Speaker 1>And Danielle took to the Justice for Danny Facebook page,

583
00:35:22.030 --> 00:35:25.389
<v Speaker 1>which they had set up. And with the help of

584
00:35:25.469 --> 00:35:28.050
<v Speaker 1>the people on that page, they were able to raise

585
00:35:28.139 --> 00:35:32.190
<v Speaker 1>the money. They then would contact the Huron County Sheriff's Office,

586
00:35:32.309 --> 00:35:36.730
<v Speaker 1>and they attached their estimate from the Sorenson Lab. Then

587
00:35:36.769 --> 00:35:39.349
<v Speaker 1>they were informed that there was other steps that needed

588
00:35:39.369 --> 00:35:43.030
<v Speaker 1>to be taken before they could send off this evidence

589
00:35:43.070 --> 00:35:46.469
<v Speaker 1>for DNA testing. They said that the family had to

590
00:35:46.510 --> 00:35:50.880
<v Speaker 1>have legal counsel to represent them, and so they got

591
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:55.289
<v Speaker 1>legal counsel to represent them. And the legal counsel reached

592
00:35:55.550 --> 00:35:57.670
<v Speaker 1>out to all of the people that he needed to

593
00:35:57.710 --> 00:36:00.050
<v Speaker 1>reach out to to ask what the next steps were

594
00:36:00.150 --> 00:36:04.309
<v Speaker 1>in order to get this DNA testing done. And they

595
00:36:04.449 --> 00:36:08.610
<v Speaker 1>were basically ghosted. They went weeks with no reply. They

596
00:36:08.710 --> 00:36:12.050
<v Speaker 1>ended up setting up a meeting on February 21st of 2005.

597
00:36:12.050 --> 00:36:18.139
<v Speaker 1>And that meeting didn't actually happen, which has to be

598
00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:21.380
<v Speaker 1>so frustrating because they are willing to do anything they

599
00:36:21.460 --> 00:36:24.840
<v Speaker 1>can to to get this DNA tested. They've raised the money.

600
00:36:24.949 --> 00:36:28.469
<v Speaker 1>They've obtained counsel. They are doing everything that they have

601
00:36:28.489 --> 00:36:31.969
<v Speaker 1>been told to do, but there is no cooperation from

602
00:36:31.989 --> 00:36:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the Huron County Sheriff's Department, which is so frustrating. So

603
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:39.780
<v Speaker 1>they continued to work and try and get them to

604
00:36:39.860 --> 00:36:43.099
<v Speaker 1>finally test this DNA. They jumped through hoops. They did

605
00:36:43.179 --> 00:36:48.320
<v Speaker 1>everything they were told to. They were contacting many different people,

606
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:50.380
<v Speaker 1>hoping that somebody was going to be able to guide

607
00:36:50.420 --> 00:36:54.989
<v Speaker 1>them and help them get this DNA tested. So I

608
00:36:55.050 --> 00:36:58.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know exactly the set of circumstances that led to it,

609
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:03.900
<v Speaker 1>but the DNA was tested. According to a Facebook post

610
00:37:04.340 --> 00:37:08.579
<v Speaker 1>on Justice for Danny Violet, the testing was approved on

611
00:37:08.619 --> 00:37:12.380
<v Speaker 1>the condition that the Huron County Sheriff's Office would facilitate

612
00:37:12.420 --> 00:37:16.420
<v Speaker 1>the testing and transfer of the evidence since the agency

613
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:20.429
<v Speaker 1>maintains custody of it. Because of that arrangement, Danny's family

614
00:37:20.489 --> 00:37:24.309
<v Speaker 1>could not communicate directly with the independent laboratory or receive

615
00:37:24.329 --> 00:37:26.909
<v Speaker 1>the testing results. I am reading this directly from the

616
00:37:26.969 --> 00:37:30.349
<v Speaker 1>Justice for Danny Violet Facebook page. Now, if you remember,

617
00:37:30.650 --> 00:37:33.929
<v Speaker 1>they are the ones that raised the money for this

618
00:37:33.969 --> 00:37:37.469
<v Speaker 1>DNA testing. And it goes on to say, since we

619
00:37:37.530 --> 00:37:39.880
<v Speaker 1>are the party that paid for the testing, however, we

620
00:37:40.530 --> 00:37:44.099
<v Speaker 1>are notified that we'd be receiving a partial refund because

621
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:48.590
<v Speaker 1>not all of the requested testing could be completed. Based

622
00:37:48.659 --> 00:37:51.550
<v Speaker 1>on the information communicated to us, it appears that not

623
00:37:51.690 --> 00:37:54.809
<v Speaker 1>all of the requested evidence was available to the laboratory.

624
00:37:55.269 --> 00:37:58.969
<v Speaker 1>So why wasn't all the evidence tested? Is the evidence lost?

625
00:37:59.190 --> 00:38:02.829
<v Speaker 1>Is the evidence missing? Why wouldn't you test it? The

626
00:38:02.889 --> 00:38:06.760
<v Speaker 1>money is there. Danny's family and supporters did all of

627
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:10.380
<v Speaker 1>the work to raise this money. And then it's just

628
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>like a slap in the face saying that we didn't

629
00:38:14.389 --> 00:38:17.269
<v Speaker 1>end up testing all of the evidence with no explanation

630
00:38:17.329 --> 00:38:20.670
<v Speaker 1>given as to why. And I am sorry, but this

631
00:38:20.789 --> 00:38:25.150
<v Speaker 1>is just super unacceptable. I do not buy it. I

632
00:38:25.289 --> 00:38:28.309
<v Speaker 1>don't deal with stuff like this well. I'm going to

633
00:38:28.369 --> 00:38:31.230
<v Speaker 1>call it out. I think it is shady. And I

634
00:38:31.369 --> 00:38:34.449
<v Speaker 1>don't understand how you can look at a case that

635
00:38:34.530 --> 00:38:38.710
<v Speaker 1>is 28 years old and think that this is acceptable

636
00:38:38.829 --> 00:38:44.210
<v Speaker 1>and okay behavior to treat Danny's family like this. They

637
00:38:44.469 --> 00:38:46.809
<v Speaker 1>are looking for answers. They want to know what happened

638
00:38:46.849 --> 00:38:49.989
<v Speaker 1>to their son, and they deserve to know what happened

639
00:38:50.130 --> 00:38:54.320
<v Speaker 1>to their son. So what was DNA tested? I don't

640
00:38:54.340 --> 00:38:56.840
<v Speaker 1>really know, but I do know that there were some

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00:38:56.940 --> 00:39:00.639
<v Speaker 1>items that were DNA tested. However, the results are not

642
00:39:00.699 --> 00:39:05.039
<v Speaker 1>available publicly, and they're not even available to Danny's family.

643
00:39:05.570 --> 00:39:09.719
<v Speaker 1>And I never truly will understand this. I understand protecting

644
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:13.420
<v Speaker 1>the integrity of an investigation and trying to keep things

645
00:39:13.579 --> 00:39:16.699
<v Speaker 1>close to the vest. I understand that. I understand that

646
00:39:16.739 --> 00:39:20.469
<v Speaker 1>there are rules and regulations and things in place for

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00:39:20.550 --> 00:39:24.329
<v Speaker 1>a reason. But I will never understand, it will never

648
00:39:24.409 --> 00:39:27.789
<v Speaker 1>make sense to me how something like this is allowed

649
00:39:27.829 --> 00:39:33.760
<v Speaker 1>to happen. And the family is kept 0% informed on anything.

650
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.559
<v Speaker 1>And they're out here fighting for their lives, trying to

651
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:41.530
<v Speaker 1>figure out what happened to Danny. His death still is unknown.

652
00:39:41.550 --> 00:39:45.210
<v Speaker 1>And It's never been ruled a homicide. And that is,

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00:39:45.329 --> 00:39:49.469
<v Speaker 1>I think, the most astonishing thing of it all. Because

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00:39:49.590 --> 00:39:52.050
<v Speaker 1>I think it is really, really clear to see that

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00:39:52.090 --> 00:39:54.829
<v Speaker 1>there was foul play involved in Danny's death.

656
00:39:55.510 --> 00:39:58.679
<v Speaker 2>And Danny was a tough guy. He was a wrestler.

657
00:39:59.340 --> 00:40:03.460
<v Speaker 1>It would have taken a lot to subdue Danny, so

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<v Speaker 1>to say. So I do think there is a huge

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00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:10.219
<v Speaker 1>possibility that there is more than one person involved in this.

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<v Speaker 1>And I very much think that there are more people

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00:40:14.610 --> 00:40:17.869
<v Speaker 1>out there that know what happened to Danny. And people

662
00:40:17.929 --> 00:40:22.090
<v Speaker 1>talking about it and spreading awareness about it is making

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00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:27.139
<v Speaker 1>these people a little uncomfortable. And I think that that

664
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:29.639
<v Speaker 1>is exactly what needs to happen. I think more people

665
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:32.139
<v Speaker 1>need to talk about it. And we need to get

666
00:40:32.219 --> 00:40:36.110
<v Speaker 1>Danny's story out there. And people need to be upset about.

667
00:40:35.909 --> 00:40:37.030
<v Speaker 2>This because there is.

668
00:40:38.409 --> 00:40:41.429
<v Speaker 1>a boy who was 17 years old who had his

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00:40:41.530 --> 00:40:47.349
<v Speaker 1>life stolen in 1998. And his family desperately wants to

670
00:40:47.389 --> 00:40:50.010
<v Speaker 1>know what happened to him. And he now has so

671
00:40:50.050 --> 00:40:54.789
<v Speaker 1>many supporters who are behind the family and who have

672
00:40:54.849 --> 00:40:58.010
<v Speaker 1>listened to the Culpable podcast and have heard the complete

673
00:40:58.090 --> 00:41:02.360
<v Speaker 1>entire story and know that things aren't adding up. I

674
00:41:02.420 --> 00:41:07.329
<v Speaker 1>listened to the whole Culpable podcast series on Danny in

675
00:41:07.369 --> 00:41:07.889
<v Speaker 1>a weekend.

676
00:41:08.050 --> 00:41:09.250
<v Speaker 2>I listened to it last weekend.

677
00:41:09.909 --> 00:41:12.550
<v Speaker 1>And when I was listening to the last episode, that

678
00:41:12.590 --> 00:41:16.159
<v Speaker 1>is where they were talking about the DNA testing and

679
00:41:16.260 --> 00:41:17.340
<v Speaker 1>all of the roadblocks that.

680
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:17.820
<v Speaker 2>They had hit.

681
00:41:18.059 --> 00:41:23.500
<v Speaker 1>And then it went into another interview with Jane, Danny's mom.

682
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:26.659
<v Speaker 1>And she just talked about who Danny was as a

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00:41:26.710 --> 00:41:31.019
<v Speaker 1>person and how she loved him so much. She goes

684
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:33.039
<v Speaker 1>on to say that she believes that he would have

685
00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:36.449
<v Speaker 1>found somebody special who would have helped him to straighten

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00:41:36.469 --> 00:41:39.090
<v Speaker 1>out his life and that he would be a great dad.

687
00:41:39.250 --> 00:41:42.929
<v Speaker 1>He always told Jane that he wanted to be a dad.

688
00:41:43.329 --> 00:41:46.050
<v Speaker 1>She said they still love him and they have always

689
00:41:46.130 --> 00:41:48.420
<v Speaker 1>loved him. And then she went on to say that

690
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:51.860
<v Speaker 1>he's her little boy and he's always going to be

691
00:41:51.940 --> 00:41:54.630
<v Speaker 1>her little boy. And when she said that, I just

692
00:41:54.690 --> 00:41:58.110
<v Speaker 1>completely and utterly lost it. I was laying in my

693
00:41:58.150 --> 00:42:02.360
<v Speaker 1>bed sobbing about that interview and just the way that

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00:42:02.389 --> 00:42:06.039
<v Speaker 1>she said it and the way that she spoke of

695
00:42:06.099 --> 00:42:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Danny and how devastating this is for them and their family.

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00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:13.739
<v Speaker 1>28 years later, they do not have answers as to

697
00:42:14.019 --> 00:42:18.269
<v Speaker 1>what happened to Danny. And it just absolutely breaks my heart.

698
00:42:18.369 --> 00:42:20.780
<v Speaker 1>It breaks my heart right now just talking about it.

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00:42:21.389 --> 00:42:24.099
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know why this case strikes me so

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00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:27.159
<v Speaker 1>different than all of the other ones I covered.

701
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:29.320
<v Speaker 2>They're all sad. They're all tragic.

702
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:33.050
<v Speaker 1>But there's something about this one that it just makes

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00:42:33.139 --> 00:42:36.969
<v Speaker 1>me so incredibly sad. And I think a big part

704
00:42:37.010 --> 00:42:41.489
<v Speaker 1>of it is because it's still an unknown cause of death.

705
00:42:41.889 --> 00:42:44.369
<v Speaker 1>And I think that needs to change. And I do

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00:42:44.449 --> 00:42:47.909
<v Speaker 1>think that all of the supporters, all of Danny's supporters,

707
00:42:48.050 --> 00:42:50.070
<v Speaker 1>all of his family, all of his friends, all of

708
00:42:50.110 --> 00:42:53.219
<v Speaker 1>the people that truly cared about him and care about him.

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00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:57.760
<v Speaker 1>are going to keep pushing until there are answers. And

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00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:00.170
<v Speaker 1>I do hope that one day I can bring you

711
00:43:00.289 --> 00:43:02.429
<v Speaker 1>that there has been a break in the Danny Violet

712
00:43:02.510 --> 00:43:07.230
<v Speaker 1>case and we have movement and things are finally progressing

713
00:43:07.389 --> 00:43:10.860
<v Speaker 1>the way they should be. So there is someone out

714
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:14.400
<v Speaker 1>there that knows something about Danny's case and now is

715
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the time to speak up and share what you know.

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00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:21.940
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, his case is still unsolved, but there

717
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:24.500
<v Speaker 1>is always hope that somebody is going to get tired

718
00:43:24.539 --> 00:43:27.570
<v Speaker 1>of holding on to secrets and come forward with information.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone with information on Danny's case can reach out to

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00:43:31.469 --> 00:43:38.719
<v Speaker 1>the Huron County Sheriff's Office at 419-668-6912. I thank you

721
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:41.389
<v Speaker 1>guys so much for tuning in to Dani's story. It

722
00:43:42.070 --> 00:43:46.579
<v Speaker 1>was one that, honestly, when I first started researching it,

723
00:43:46.690 --> 00:43:50.269
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize how deep it really went. And The

724
00:43:50.309 --> 00:43:54.329
<v Speaker 1>Culpable Podcast did such a great job telling Dani's story

725
00:43:54.349 --> 00:43:57.860
<v Speaker 1>and going deep on things. I am going to link

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00:43:57.889 --> 00:43:59.920
<v Speaker 1>it below so you guys can go listen to it.

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00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:03.340
<v Speaker 1>It is a really easy listen. Like I said, I

728
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:08.000
<v Speaker 1>listened to it in two days. It's eight episodes. And

729
00:44:08.380 --> 00:44:11.750
<v Speaker 1>they really do go into detail and they have interviews

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00:44:11.769 --> 00:44:15.780
<v Speaker 1>with Danny's family. And it is just super, super well done.

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<v Speaker 1>So I appreciate you guys listening to Danny's story. Please

732
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:23.400
<v Speaker 1>check over on my social media, my Instagram and Facebook

733
00:44:23.420 --> 00:44:28.860
<v Speaker 1>pages for photos associated with this episode. And I hope

734
00:44:28.900 --> 00:44:30.760
<v Speaker 1>that one day I can bring you the news that

735
00:44:30.780 --> 00:44:33.809
<v Speaker 1>there is a break in Danny Violet's case and that

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00:44:33.849 --> 00:44:38.190
<v Speaker 1>his family is getting the answers that they so desperately

737
00:44:38.309 --> 00:44:40.969
<v Speaker 1>need and really deserve at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you guys, and I hope you have a

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00:44:44.980 --> 00:44:48.659
<v Speaker 1>great weekend. And please, please, please stay safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye.
