WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.720 The Projection Booth podcast is sponsored by Scarecrow Video. Try 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.719 out Scarecrow's rent by mail service. Choose from over one 3 00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:09.759 hundred and fifty thousand films again Blu rays, four k's 4 00:00:09.800 --> 00:00:13.839 and DVDs delivered directly to your door. Visit scarecrow dot 5 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:14.960 com today. 6 00:00:20.239 --> 00:00:23.039 Oh gez, folks, it's showtime. 7 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:25.679 People say good money to see this movie. 8 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:27.280 When they go out to a theater. 9 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:31.280 They want closed sodas, hot popcorn in. No monsters in 10 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:32.320 the Projection Booth. 11 00:00:32.479 --> 00:00:34.320 Everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring. 12 00:00:35.359 --> 00:01:23.000 Put it off. 13 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:28.480 Five stars all the way, except for the last couple 14 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:31.959 of years. The best film study podcast of all time 15 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:37.400 in my opinion. Unfortunately, politics and strangely distorted British accents 16 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:41.959 have crept in all too often lately, some new personalities 17 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:45.680 with the habit of laughing a lot. No matter, it's 18 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:49.480 still an excellent show. Go back and listen to the 19 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:55.040 back catalog pre twenty sixteen for straightforward movie talk about 20 00:01:55.120 --> 00:02:01.200 story acting, shot selection, etc. Too much political commentary now, 21 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:05.920 but I always look forward to the new shows anyway. Update. 22 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:09.199 Because I have a long history with this show, I 23 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:13.080 have found their old catalog on spreaker and use that 24 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:18.560 glitchy app to re listen to their pre twenty sixteen shows, 25 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:23.919 which are all pure gold. Nowadays not so much. I 26 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:27.360 miss the Mic and Rob days that got me through 27 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:31.120 many days and miles of work travel in the early teens. 28 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:36.439 Annoying amateur babbling nerds. If you have no life and 29 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:42.560 like listening to long winded, redundant, poorly spoken, profane, vulgar, unfunny, 30 00:02:42.599 --> 00:02:50.400 nerd humor, unoriginal, regurgitated misinformation, irrelevant personal stories and off topic, stupid, 31 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:54.960 ridiculous connections told in bloated more is more geek fashion, 32 00:02:55.719 --> 00:02:59.400 then go ahead and tune into these idiots. But if 33 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:01.960 you are your self a fan of such movies and 34 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:05.159 want to know more about their making, certainly do not 35 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:09.280 ever make the mistake of listening to this junk. It 36 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:12.000 will taint the properties you once loved. 37 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:17.319 Horrible effate commentaries. I came across this podcast and decided 38 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:19.879 to try it out because they featured an interesting selection 39 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:22.960 of movies they were reviewing. It's a bit interesting that 40 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:25.439 their commentaries and reviews can be triple the length of 41 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:28.599 the movies themselves. I found many of the commentaries to 42 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:32.599 be obnoxious. From a feat self appointed elites. Specifically, I 43 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:35.919 listened to the reviews and commentary on The Thing and 44 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:39.680 The Running Man. Ascribing the box office failure of the 45 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:43.439 Thing to Reagan era politics as they did was just ridiculous. 46 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:47.360 Reagan took office in January and nineteen eighty one. The 47 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:50.879 Thing was released in late nineteen eighty two. The Thing 48 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:54.840 was indeed underappreciated then and frankly still is, but the 49 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:58.599 commentary was idiotic. In a similar vein, I was annoyed 50 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:02.159 by the brit reviewing The run Man. The ultimate irony 51 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:05.240 in their twenty seventeen commentary was that the very bit 52 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:08.840 the commenters were talking about the selective editing by corporate media, 53 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:12.560 manipulation of the general public, etc. Is exactly what's been 54 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:14.919 happening in the last five or so years, but by 55 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:18.120 the people they presumably support. I was hoping to hear 56 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:20.279 bits about the craft of the films and got a 57 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:22.720 little of that on The Thing, But The Running Man, 58 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:26.000 which is sadly proving to be as prophetic as Demolition Man, 59 00:04:26.399 --> 00:04:30.360 was filled with political diatribes and snide remarks. Some might 60 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:32.000 say to give it more of a chance, but I've 61 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:34.360 wasted too many hours on this podcast as it is. 62 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:39.959 Hey, folks, welcome to Ego Fest fifteen, the time where 63 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:43.240 I pull back the curtain and what is happening at 64 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:47.680 the Projection Booth. I take listener questions. I talk a 65 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:50.160 little bit about myself, talk a little bit about what's 66 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:53.319 going on with the podcast. Might talk some other people 67 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:56.480 up as well, you never know. It's kind of a 68 00:04:56.519 --> 00:05:00.839 free form train of thought type of exercise where I 69 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:03.399 don't write too many things down other than a few 70 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:06.319 topics that I want to be sure to cover. 71 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:07.480 And then of. 72 00:05:07.439 --> 00:05:11.240 Course all the questions that people have for me. As 73 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:15.439 you heard, the Projection Booth is universally loved. Nobody has 74 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:18.079 a bad word to say about the show. Let's keep 75 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:21.519 it that way, shall we. Actually, a lot of the trolls, 76 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:24.360 the right wing trolls that were coming out and critiquing 77 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:28.519 me for actually introducing political things into movies I talked 78 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:33.519 about politics or making things quote unquote political, they have 79 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:37.360 kind of gone away, which is not bad. And my 80 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:40.800 stalker who loved to sign me up for different right 81 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:44.959 wing websites and newsletters and those things haven't heard from 82 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:48.360 that mofo in a long time either. That's fantastic. Again, 83 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:53.279 let's keep it that way. Of course, after I recorded that, 84 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:58.959 that's when I had a recent interaction with someone. You've 85 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:02.759 probably read some of the reviews that I've gotten where 86 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:06.639 people just complain about how political we get on the 87 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:09.639 projection booth or I get specifically. 88 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:13.839 Politics again where they don't belong. Would be a fantastic 89 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:16.199 podcast if the host and guests could go two minutes 90 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:20.000 without sticking their idiotic political points of view in movie 91 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:24.079 reviews that have nothing to do with politics. So exhausting. 92 00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:27.319 Sorry, I can't keep my mouth shut when I see 93 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:31.399 the world just kind of turning to shit, So my 94 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:36.279 bad when it comes to that. Also, sorry that I 95 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:40.199 called out Charlie Kirk for being a piece of excrement 96 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:45.160 right after he died. I mean, Charlie Kirk died for 97 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:49.160 what he believed in, which was very lax gun control, 98 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:52.800 and apparently because he wasn't right wing enough, which is 99 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:58.800 fucking crazy. Based on that managed to attract some unwanted 100 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:07.639 attention from, of all people, filmmaker in Garronigo Gosien, Sorry 101 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:11.439 for my pronunciation. I don't know if he runs a 102 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:17.759 site or a thing on Facebook, but has posted a 103 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:24.839 couple videos with my likeness on there and with people 104 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:29.639 like Charlie Kirk or Trump basically punching me in the 105 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:36.680 face until my head explodes kind of disturbing and yeah, 106 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:41.399 just not something I'm a big fan of. So I've 107 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:44.519 tried to get those videos taken down off of Facebook. 108 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:49.839 I've also tried to get his account reported and possibly 109 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:54.079 closed down, both the AI slap account that he runs 110 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:58.720 that's that their name, not My Name AI slap account, 111 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:03.079 and then also his own personal account. But apparently now 112 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:09.120 that Facebook is just completely embracing AI and doesn't seem 113 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:12.160 to give a shit about any sort of community standards. 114 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:16.399 Now he's still going, that site's still going, everything's still going, 115 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:19.920 So fuck me, right. But that's the kind of weird 116 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:22.600 shit that I'm putting up with, and I'm sure a 117 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:24.399 lot of you other folks are putting up with too. 118 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:28.079 I can't even imagine some of the things that especially 119 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:30.240 some of the female co hosts that we've had on 120 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:32.879 the show, some of the trance people that we've had 121 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:36.240 on the show, the stuff that they go through, it's 122 00:08:36.559 --> 00:08:40.799 much more intense and horrible, I'm sure than what I'm 123 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:43.879 going through. So I just felt though that I wanted 124 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:47.639 to bring that forward, just because what the fuck man? 125 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:52.279 He just posts these weird frickin videos of like Barack 126 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:56.600 Obama's head explodes and Joe Biden's head comes out, but 127 00:08:56.720 --> 00:08:59.759 Joe Biden's head is also on Barack Obama's chest eating 128 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:03.120 guy scream. I don't know what's going on with this dude, 129 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:06.799 so yeah, suffice it to say I probably will not 130 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:11.960 be reviewing or talking about any of his films anytime soon. 131 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:15.679 Actually has a film out there, Dangerous People from twenty fifteen, 132 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:24.559 and apparently acts in other people's films as well, So yeah, great. 133 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:29.159 I was into it until the oh so convenient yet 134 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:36.279 misguided and just stereotypically dumb Disney bashing Deadpool Wolverine bashing. Well, 135 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:40.639 I'm thinking they're rather happy. Same with the Romulus people. 136 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:44.039 This elitist and unable to just have fun attitude just 137 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:47.480 made me drop off and unsubscribe. Gave it a try. 138 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:50.480 I'm off to have a good time watching movies and 139 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:51.440 not spread misery. 140 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:55.399 Let's go ahead and kick things off with a voicemail 141 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:58.720 that I got from Captain Billy. Let's go ahead and 142 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:02.480 just play that back and and answer some questions after 143 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:03.159 I come back. 144 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:07.679 Hey, Mike, Whites hate Projection Booth. Captain Billy here calling 145 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:10.960 from the center of the universe, Parma, Ohio. You're asking 146 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:14.679 for questions or your ego theft I can only think 147 00:10:14.720 --> 00:10:17.440 of one, Mike, Why are you so awesome? 148 00:10:17.960 --> 00:10:18.360 Why is the. 149 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:21.320 Projection Booth the greatest podcast in the universe? Is there 150 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:23.000 a room in the bed for your wife at night 151 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:26.279 with you and your awesome talent? Seriously, didn't you used 152 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:28.639 to say at the end of the show, ticking over 153 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:30.759 the world one listener at a time, and then now 154 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:33.639 it's just taking over the world? Did I hallucinate that 155 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:34.679 it's a great show? 156 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:35.000 Guys? 157 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:35.519 Keep it up. 158 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:36.559 Thanks. 159 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:41.840 First off, that is four questions. Let's go ahead and 160 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:46.799 answer them in order. Why am I so awesome? Oh boy, 161 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:50.360 that's really tough. Gosh, there's so many reasons why I'm 162 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:54.679 so awesome? Let me count the ways. Actually, I don't 163 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:57.320 think that I'm awesome at all. I think that have 164 00:10:57.399 --> 00:11:01.720 the ability to bring together some awesome folks and have 165 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:05.080 some great discussions around movies. But frankly, I don't think 166 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:09.000 I'm very awesome. Why is the Projection Booth the greatest 167 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:13.159 podcast in the universe? Again, probably not the greatest podcast 168 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:15.519 in the universe, though I have to say it's probably 169 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:19.480 better than some film podcasts. One thing is that when 170 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:21.759 we were sitting up the show, we said, let's not 171 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:26.600 have a whole lot of chit chat. Let's dive into 172 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:30.840 the movie discussion pretty quickly. Let's try to keep it 173 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:34.720 as professional as possible. That might not be true, it 174 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:37.679 might not be as professional as possible, but I do try. 175 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:40.279 So there is that Is there room in the bed 176 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:42.960 with your wife at night for you and your awesome talent? 177 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:48.519 Probably not. Yeah, Luckily we've got a California king, so 178 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.440 I guess the talent kind of sits between us. It 179 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:55.720 seems to have enough room, So that's good. And as 180 00:11:55.759 --> 00:11:58.080 far as taking over the world one listener at a time, 181 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:01.519 maybe I said one listener at a time at some point. 182 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:04.279 But it was tough to find a way to end 183 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:07.039 the show and didn't want to have some sort of, 184 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:10.600 you know, take it easy kind of ending. I didn't 185 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:14.720 want to steal somebody else's ending sentence. I do like 186 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:17.480 keep the dirty side down in the shiny side up, 187 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:21.320 but that's just mostly for my truck of friends. Yeah, 188 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:25.279 I don't remember when I switched to the projection booth 189 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:28.480 taking over the World. But that's how it's been in 190 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:31.039 the outline for the longest time, and every once in 191 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:32.679 a while I might change it up a little bit, 192 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:35.440 but for the most part, Yeah, we've just been working 193 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:38.039 on taking over the world. And I don't know if 194 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:42.279 you hallucinated that then might be the case, but I'm 195 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:45.080 sure that there is evidence out there to contradict me, 196 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:48.279 and no, for sure. The first I don't know, one 197 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:51.440 hundred two hundred episodes, I probably had no idea how 198 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:54.360 to end the show once I found out that I 199 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:57.240 wanted to take over the world and take over all 200 00:12:57.240 --> 00:13:01.159 those other podcasts and make mine the greatest in the universe. 201 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:06.960 If not World, World, Solar System, Galaxy, universe, I'm fine 202 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:09.879 taking over all of them. Let's go ahead and stick 203 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:13.159 with some questions more. Let's go ahead and hear from 204 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:18.039 Dallas Novelle, who is a longtime listener and we communicate 205 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:21.039 via Instagram. It's always good hearing from Dallas, and very 206 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:24.440 nice of him to send along this question list as well, 207 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:26.440 so we've got a little bit of stuff from him. 208 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:27.759 Let's go ahead and play that. 209 00:13:29.279 --> 00:13:31.600 Can you talk a little bit about the feedback that 210 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:36.159 you received from filmmakers, authors, or even other podcasters who 211 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:40.639 were allowed to guest host or even were featured on 212 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:44.360 your show in response to what kind of audience they 213 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:46.519 got after being on your show. 214 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:50.279 You know, I don't know if I've ever really gotten 215 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:55.320 that feedback. I will occasionally hear from somebody who said, oh, 216 00:13:55.360 --> 00:13:57.399 I heard this person on your show and I picked 217 00:13:57.440 --> 00:14:01.559 up their book, But that's a about it. It would 218 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:04.200 always be nice if I did hear either from the 219 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:07.840 filmmaker's authors, et cetera, or from the folks that might 220 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:10.159 have checked out a movie. Every once in a while, 221 00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:13.080 I will get a I watched this movie because of 222 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:15.240 his on your show, and I liked it a lot. 223 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:19.200 I don't tend to get a I listened to your 224 00:14:19.240 --> 00:14:21.159 show and I watched this movie and I hated it. 225 00:14:21.559 --> 00:14:24.080 What movie did you guys watch? Though, every once in 226 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:26.399 a while I make get that if we dislike a 227 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:30.600 movie and people will come back with that, I've gotten 228 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:34.879 a lot of all the things. Civil War Alex Garland 229 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:38.600 Civil War seemed to cause the most consternation with people 230 00:14:38.639 --> 00:14:43.279 that we didn't like that movie. Actually have a review 231 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:46.799 of the show from somebody who didn't like our review 232 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:48.399 of it. So let's go ahead. 233 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:53.320 And play that Triggered by Alex Garland. I typically enjoy 234 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:56.639 the film analysis and depth of knowledge, but the hosts 235 00:14:56.759 --> 00:15:01.200 sounded completely triggered in the episode about Alex Garland's They 236 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:03.919 were ranting about all the decisions he made for no 237 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:07.240 reason and how enraging they found the movie for an 238 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:11.639 entire hour plus fine for a two sentence letterboxed review, 239 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:14.919 but I would expect a more thoughtful and thorough analysis 240 00:15:14.960 --> 00:15:18.399 of a film during such an extended dialogue. For me, 241 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:22.559 it highlighted the occasional unfortunate tendency for their discussions to 242 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:25.159 start sounding like an amateurish echo chamber. 243 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:30.000 Dear Mike, big fan of the podcast and first time 244 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:34.440 writing in, absolutely love the mix of in depth discussion 245 00:15:34.519 --> 00:15:37.399 and interviews. To me, it has always felt like the 246 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:41.639 most well rounded film podcast available. This is also the 247 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:44.559 first time I have felt compelled to write into any 248 00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:48.200 podcast I listened to with criticism. I listened to the 249 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:52.799 Civil War episode and was struck by two things. One, 250 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:56.559 A significant portion of your criticism of the movie is 251 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:59.279 that the movie is different to the trailer, and that 252 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:01.679 all three of you you expected a different film based 253 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:05.440 on the trailer. The film speaks for itself. The trailer 254 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:07.519 is there to sell the film to a wide audience. 255 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:12.639 Whilst trailers, interviews and press releases may ultimately affect the 256 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:15.919 expectations you bring into the film, it is surely down 257 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:18.120 to you to let go of the baggage and assess 258 00:16:18.159 --> 00:16:21.960 the film on its own terms. Two, there was a 259 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:25.200 great focus on disappointment that the film has nothing to say, 260 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:29.080 Yet your discussion focused on elements the film clearly did 261 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:31.919 not care to dwell on, such as how the Civil 262 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:35.279 War started, what the politics of the different factions were, 263 00:16:35.559 --> 00:16:38.279 and how it relates to twenty twenty four as if 264 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:42.000 it needs to. In your one hour discussion, you almost 265 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:45.919 never explore what the film is clearly focusing on journalism 266 00:16:46.159 --> 00:16:50.799 and the gray morality involved in this objectivity. This point 267 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:54.200 being missed is striking, with the perfect example being your 268 00:16:54.200 --> 00:16:57.200 discussion of the ending, where the consensus seemed to be 269 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:00.679 that you didn't care that kissed and Dunst's character was 270 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:05.200 killed when sacrificing herself. No one brought up what happened 271 00:17:05.240 --> 00:17:08.920 afterwards in that Kylie Spainey did not check on Dunst 272 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:12.000 and instead carried on to make sure she gets the 273 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:16.000 perfect photo, and Wagner Mura did not check on his partner, 274 00:17:16.359 --> 00:17:19.680 instead rushing to get an interview. When begged to not 275 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:23.519 let the soldiers kill the president, Mura coldly acknowledges the 276 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:26.119 plead as a quote, and is then captured in the 277 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:29.440 photo standing alongside the soldiers who are committing a war crime. 278 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:32.960 Whether or not you are invested emotionally dunced is a 279 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:37.559 fair critique, though lacking without further elaboration. But to only 280 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:40.720 view the ending in terms of her being killed rather 281 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:44.759 than how the other journalists act signals that an understanding 282 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:48.319 of the fundamental elements that encompass the film were either 283 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:52.119 not picked up or were certainly not conveyed in the discussion. 284 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:55.480 It is perfectly fine to miss the point of a film, 285 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:59.480 though perhaps a shame for all three hosts guests to 286 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:02.039 have done so so. But I just could not get 287 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:04.599 over how all three of you were so hung up 288 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:07.480 on the film being different to the trailer. It was 289 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:10.680 mentioned for a split second that Alex Garland did not 290 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:13.960 edit the trailer, which is then rebutted by stating it 291 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:17.359 was Alex Garland who edited the film. It should really 292 00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:19.759 not be revelatory to hear that the film is the 293 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:23.079 piece of art speaking for itself, not a trailer made 294 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:25.480 to get a mass audience to buy tickets to view it. 295 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:28.799 Not that you didn't have other criticisms that I'm sure 296 00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:32.279 would limit your appreciation of the film regardless, and a 297 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:36.079 couple I found compelling, but it seemed fairly clear a 298 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:40.200 large amount of the episode was spent both expressing disdain 299 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:43.319 that the film had not been what you expected and 300 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:47.599 not engaging with what the film was actually focusing on. Obviously, 301 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:49.640 run the show as you please, and who am I 302 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:52.759 to be listened to? But I was genuinely taken aback 303 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:54.880 from listening to that episode and felt the need to 304 00:18:54.920 --> 00:18:58.400 write something. If this is even read, I hope it 305 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:03.039 gives you something to think about. Laugh at best wishes Paul. 306 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:07.000 So yeah, very interesting. I actually just got some feedback 307 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:10.119 the other day, so speaking of Instagram from a friend 308 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:13.160 on insert well, I guess he's a friend. It's very 309 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:17.839 condescending when he was talking about our opinion of our 310 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:23.240 Civil War episode and basically saying that we completely missed 311 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:26.160 the point of everything and that we were too stupid 312 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:29.079 to understand what was going on with that. Also, how 313 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:32.960 much he disliked Father Malone and Christassue, which is not 314 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:36.319 really a way to enjoy yourself to me, because obviously 315 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:39.079 I podcast with those guys quite a bit. We do 316 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:42.720 the Sopranos podcast with Chris, which has yet to come out. 317 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:45.720 Hopefully one of these days that show called what No 318 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:50.519 Fucking zd Will actually come out. And then with Father Malone, 319 00:19:50.599 --> 00:19:53.200 we do well, We've done quite a few things, but 320 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:56.440 we've been doing midnight viewing over the last few years, 321 00:19:56.599 --> 00:19:59.799 and we are just about to wrap up all of 322 00:19:59.880 --> 00:20:02.599 the details from the Dark Side seasons and move on 323 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:05.839 over to the Hammerhouse of Horror season that is out there, 324 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:09.400 and then I'm sure we will find another horror anthology 325 00:20:09.559 --> 00:20:12.880 show to go through. So yeah, I've been podcasting with 326 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:15.920 him for years and years and he is just about 327 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:19.920 to be on yet another episode. Also with Chris, I 328 00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:26.079 do the well We've done Colombo, Colechak, Bernie Miller also 329 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:30.039 do the Ranking on Bondo podcast with him, did Rings 330 00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:33.359 of Power, which hopefully we will do the second season 331 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:36.319 of that pretty soon. Chris is a pretty good friend 332 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:38.920 of mine, and so the way to my heart is 333 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:42.519 not to critique him and talk about just what a 334 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:45.200 shit co host he is, so, But as far as 335 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:50.480 any feedback from filmmakers, yeah, nobody said, oh yeah, well 336 00:20:50.640 --> 00:20:53.759 I had a lot more people buy my movie afterwards, 337 00:20:54.400 --> 00:20:57.359 or got a lot more feedback from people after I 338 00:20:57.400 --> 00:21:00.480 was featured on the show. So yeah, the US thing 339 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:03.240 about doing this, I mean, thank you Dallas, especially for 340 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:06.240 giving me feedback. Every once in a while, Dallas will 341 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:08.920 write to me and talk about different episodes he's listened to. 342 00:21:09.039 --> 00:21:11.920 I've got another friend, Chip who will do the same. 343 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:16.519 That's great because podcasting, as we talked about in the 344 00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:20.720 age of audio episode podcasting is pretty lonely business. Me 345 00:21:20.839 --> 00:21:24.200 sitting here alone in front of a microphone talking to 346 00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:29.000 a hopefully not imaginary audience, but also just not getting 347 00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:32.839 any freaking feedback at all. Just putting out episodes week 348 00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:35.359 after week after week. You don't tend to get a 349 00:21:35.400 --> 00:21:38.720 lot of feedback on stuff, so you just basically hope 350 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:42.640 that people are listening, look for download numbers, and assume 351 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:46.119 that people have heard things. But yeah, it's kind of 352 00:21:46.599 --> 00:21:49.480 a strange biz to be in. There's not a great 353 00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:52.920 feedback loop. Let's say, can. 354 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:55.160 You talk a little bit about your favorite decade of 355 00:21:55.200 --> 00:22:01.160 filmmaking and more specifically, what is it in that era 356 00:22:01.640 --> 00:22:04.799 that we're missing in our style of filmmaking today. 357 00:22:05.480 --> 00:22:09.200 I don't think it's any secret that my favorite decade 358 00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:12.599 of filmmaking is the nineteen seventies. A lot of it 359 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:15.519 is because I grew up during most of that. I 360 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:17.960 mean I was born in seventy two, so I missed 361 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:20.640 out on quite a few things. I really wasn't too 362 00:22:20.680 --> 00:22:24.000 aware of the world by nineteen eighty when the decade 363 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:27.119 was over, but I was exposed to a lot of 364 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:32.200 things during that decade. Also just going back and catching 365 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:35.680 up with the films back then. It was such an 366 00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:36.480 interesting era. 367 00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:36.880 You know. 368 00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:41.400 We've talked about that confluence of things like Vietnam and 369 00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:46.079 Watergate and the spiritual vacuum that was going on in 370 00:22:46.119 --> 00:22:49.880 the US at the time, talking about you know, occultism. 371 00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:54.039 I mean, we had the Manson murderers, we had the 372 00:22:54.079 --> 00:22:58.000 beginnings of the oil crisis. We had a lot of 373 00:22:58.079 --> 00:23:02.279 interesting things going on at that time in the world. Obviously, 374 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:04.680 I've talked about what was going on in nineteen sixty 375 00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:07.519 eight around the world with the student protests and so 376 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:10.759 many different countries, and I really feel that that fed 377 00:23:10.839 --> 00:23:14.759 into the films of the decade. I just felt like 378 00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:18.039 it was a very cynical age. But yet at the 379 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:21.920 same time you had things like Jaws and Star Wars 380 00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:26.759 and that kind of era of blockbuster Blockbuster Summer's beginning, 381 00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:30.640 and you also had the studio is still taking a 382 00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:33.759 lot of chances on things. And also the independent movement 383 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:36.759 was still going on. You still had the drive in movement, 384 00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:40.400 You had a lot of regional filmmakers that were doing things. 385 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:45.039 I know that we still have independent films happening today, 386 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:48.240 but some of them are just not my cup of tea. 387 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:50.359 Every once in a while, I'll get people sending me 388 00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:53.720 things and it's usually horror, and I'm like, it's not 389 00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:58.680 really my bag, baby. But I won't say that twenty 390 00:23:58.759 --> 00:24:04.519 twenty five is divorced from the ideals of the nineteen seventies. Obviously, 391 00:24:04.519 --> 00:24:08.200 we are in a big crisis time right now. I'm 392 00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:10.559 kind of looking forward to the rest of the twenty 393 00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:14.319 twenties and into the twenty thirties to see how what's 394 00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:17.960 going on that way is being reflected. That's one of 395 00:24:17.960 --> 00:24:20.480 the reasons I came down on Civil War so hard 396 00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:23.680 is that it just didn't feel like it actually took 397 00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:26.519 a stand I believe that in a movie, okay, what 398 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:29.440 we should call it, The Hunt, that was basically taken 399 00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:32.000 out of theaters because people were too afraid of political 400 00:24:32.079 --> 00:24:36.559 violence and of his conservatives hunting liberals. I really feel 401 00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:39.599