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Speaker 2: Oh gez, folks, it's showtime.
Speaker 3: People say good money to see this movie.
Speaker 4: When they go out to a theater.
Speaker 3: They want closed sodas, hot popcorn in. No monsters in
Speaker 3: the Projection Booth.
Speaker 5: Everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring.
Speaker 4: Put it off.
Speaker 6: Five stars all the way, except for the last couple
Speaker 6: of years. The best film study podcast of all time
Speaker 6: in my opinion. Unfortunately, politics and strangely distorted British accents
Speaker 6: have crept in all too often lately, some new personalities
Speaker 6: with the habit of laughing a lot. No matter, it's
Speaker 6: still an excellent show. Go back and listen to the
Speaker 6: back catalog pre twenty sixteen for straightforward movie talk about
Speaker 6: story acting, shot selection, etc. Too much political commentary now,
Speaker 6: but I always look forward to the new shows anyway. Update.
Speaker 6: Because I have a long history with this show, I
Speaker 6: have found their old catalog on spreaker and use that
Speaker 6: glitchy app to re listen to their pre twenty sixteen shows,
Speaker 6: which are all pure gold. Nowadays not so much. I
Speaker 6: miss the Mic and Rob days that got me through
Speaker 6: many days and miles of work travel in the early teens.
Speaker 6: Annoying amateur babbling nerds. If you have no life and
Speaker 6: like listening to long winded, redundant, poorly spoken, profane, vulgar, unfunny,
Speaker 6: nerd humor, unoriginal, regurgitated misinformation, irrelevant personal stories and off topic, stupid,
Speaker 6: ridiculous connections told in bloated more is more geek fashion,
Speaker 6: then go ahead and tune into these idiots. But if
Speaker 6: you are your self a fan of such movies and
Speaker 6: want to know more about their making, certainly do not
Speaker 6: ever make the mistake of listening to this junk. It
Speaker 6: will taint the properties you once loved.
Speaker 7: Horrible effate commentaries. I came across this podcast and decided
Speaker 7: to try it out because they featured an interesting selection
Speaker 7: of movies they were reviewing. It's a bit interesting that
Speaker 7: their commentaries and reviews can be triple the length of
Speaker 7: the movies themselves. I found many of the commentaries to
Speaker 7: be obnoxious. From a feat self appointed elites. Specifically, I
Speaker 7: listened to the reviews and commentary on The Thing and
Speaker 7: The Running Man. Ascribing the box office failure of the
Speaker 7: Thing to Reagan era politics as they did was just ridiculous.
Speaker 7: Reagan took office in January and nineteen eighty one. The
Speaker 7: Thing was released in late nineteen eighty two. The Thing
Speaker 7: was indeed underappreciated then and frankly still is, but the
Speaker 7: commentary was idiotic. In a similar vein, I was annoyed
Speaker 7: by the brit reviewing The run Man. The ultimate irony
Speaker 7: in their twenty seventeen commentary was that the very bit
Speaker 7: the commenters were talking about the selective editing by corporate media,
Speaker 7: manipulation of the general public, etc. Is exactly what's been
Speaker 7: happening in the last five or so years, but by
Speaker 7: the people they presumably support. I was hoping to hear
Speaker 7: bits about the craft of the films and got a
Speaker 7: little of that on The Thing, But The Running Man,
Speaker 7: which is sadly proving to be as prophetic as Demolition Man,
Speaker 7: was filled with political diatribes and snide remarks. Some might
Speaker 7: say to give it more of a chance, but I've
Speaker 7: wasted too many hours on this podcast as it is.
Speaker 1: Hey, folks, welcome to Ego Fest fifteen, the time where
Speaker 1: I pull back the curtain and what is happening at
Speaker 1: the Projection Booth. I take listener questions. I talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about myself, talk a little bit about what's
Speaker 1: going on with the podcast. Might talk some other people
Speaker 1: up as well, you never know. It's kind of a
Speaker 1: free form train of thought type of exercise where I
Speaker 1: don't write too many things down other than a few
Speaker 1: topics that I want to be sure to cover.
Speaker 8: And then of.
Speaker 1: Course all the questions that people have for me. As
Speaker 1: you heard, the Projection Booth is universally loved. Nobody has
Speaker 1: a bad word to say about the show. Let's keep
Speaker 1: it that way, shall we. Actually, a lot of the trolls,
Speaker 1: the right wing trolls that were coming out and critiquing
Speaker 1: me for actually introducing political things into movies I talked
Speaker 1: about politics or making things quote unquote political, they have
Speaker 1: kind of gone away, which is not bad. And my
Speaker 1: stalker who loved to sign me up for different right
Speaker 1: wing websites and newsletters and those things haven't heard from
Speaker 1: that mofo in a long time either. That's fantastic. Again,
Speaker 1: let's keep it that way. Of course, after I recorded that,
Speaker 1: that's when I had a recent interaction with someone. You've
Speaker 1: probably read some of the reviews that I've gotten where
Speaker 1: people just complain about how political we get on the
Speaker 1: projection booth or I get specifically.
Speaker 9: Politics again where they don't belong. Would be a fantastic
Speaker 9: podcast if the host and guests could go two minutes
Speaker 9: without sticking their idiotic political points of view in movie
Speaker 9: reviews that have nothing to do with politics. So exhausting.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I can't keep my mouth shut when I see
Speaker 1: the world just kind of turning to shit, So my
Speaker 1: bad when it comes to that. Also, sorry that I
Speaker 1: called out Charlie Kirk for being a piece of excrement
Speaker 1: right after he died. I mean, Charlie Kirk died for
Speaker 1: what he believed in, which was very lax gun control,
Speaker 1: and apparently because he wasn't right wing enough, which is
Speaker 1: fucking crazy. Based on that managed to attract some unwanted
Speaker 1: attention from, of all people, filmmaker in Garronigo Gosien, Sorry
Speaker 1: for my pronunciation. I don't know if he runs a
Speaker 1: site or a thing on Facebook, but has posted a
Speaker 1: couple videos with my likeness on there and with people
Speaker 1: like Charlie Kirk or Trump basically punching me in the
Speaker 1: face until my head explodes kind of disturbing and yeah,
Speaker 1: just not something I'm a big fan of. So I've
Speaker 1: tried to get those videos taken down off of Facebook.
Speaker 1: I've also tried to get his account reported and possibly
Speaker 1: closed down, both the AI slap account that he runs
Speaker 1: that's that their name, not My Name AI slap account,
Speaker 1: and then also his own personal account. But apparently now
Speaker 1: that Facebook is just completely embracing AI and doesn't seem
Speaker 1: to give a shit about any sort of community standards.
Speaker 1: Now he's still going, that site's still going, everything's still going,
Speaker 1: So fuck me, right. But that's the kind of weird
Speaker 1: shit that I'm putting up with, and I'm sure a
Speaker 1: lot of you other folks are putting up with too.
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine some of the things that especially
Speaker 1: some of the female co hosts that we've had on
Speaker 1: the show, some of the trance people that we've had
Speaker 1: on the show, the stuff that they go through, it's
Speaker 1: much more intense and horrible, I'm sure than what I'm
Speaker 1: going through. So I just felt though that I wanted
Speaker 1: to bring that forward, just because what the fuck man?
Speaker 1: He just posts these weird frickin videos of like Barack
Speaker 1: Obama's head explodes and Joe Biden's head comes out, but
Speaker 1: Joe Biden's head is also on Barack Obama's chest eating
Speaker 1: guy scream. I don't know what's going on with this dude,
Speaker 1: so yeah, suffice it to say I probably will not
Speaker 1: be reviewing or talking about any of his films anytime soon.
Speaker 1: Actually has a film out there, Dangerous People from twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: and apparently acts in other people's films as well, So yeah, great.
Speaker 10: I was into it until the oh so convenient yet
Speaker 10: misguided and just stereotypically dumb Disney bashing Deadpool Wolverine bashing. Well,
Speaker 10: I'm thinking they're rather happy. Same with the Romulus people.
Speaker 10: This elitist and unable to just have fun attitude just
Speaker 10: made me drop off and unsubscribe. Gave it a try.
Speaker 10: I'm off to have a good time watching movies and
Speaker 10: not spread misery.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and kick things off with a voicemail
Speaker 1: that I got from Captain Billy. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: just play that back and and answer some questions after
Speaker 1: I come back.
Speaker 5: Hey, Mike, Whites hate Projection Booth. Captain Billy here calling
Speaker 5: from the center of the universe, Parma, Ohio. You're asking
Speaker 5: for questions or your ego theft I can only think
Speaker 5: of one, Mike, Why are you so awesome?
Speaker 11: Why is the.
Speaker 5: Projection Booth the greatest podcast in the universe? Is there
Speaker 5: a room in the bed for your wife at night
Speaker 5: with you and your awesome talent? Seriously, didn't you used
Speaker 5: to say at the end of the show, ticking over
Speaker 5: the world one listener at a time, and then now
Speaker 5: it's just taking over the world? Did I hallucinate that
Speaker 5: it's a great show?
Speaker 12: Guys?
Speaker 5: Keep it up.
Speaker 13: Thanks.
Speaker 1: First off, that is four questions. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: answer them in order. Why am I so awesome? Oh boy,
Speaker 1: that's really tough. Gosh, there's so many reasons why I'm
Speaker 1: so awesome? Let me count the ways. Actually, I don't
Speaker 1: think that I'm awesome at all. I think that have
Speaker 1: the ability to bring together some awesome folks and have
Speaker 1: some great discussions around movies. But frankly, I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm very awesome. Why is the Projection Booth the greatest
Speaker 1: podcast in the universe? Again, probably not the greatest podcast
Speaker 1: in the universe, though I have to say it's probably
Speaker 1: better than some film podcasts. One thing is that when
Speaker 1: we were sitting up the show, we said, let's not
Speaker 1: have a whole lot of chit chat. Let's dive into
Speaker 1: the movie discussion pretty quickly. Let's try to keep it
Speaker 1: as professional as possible. That might not be true, it
Speaker 1: might not be as professional as possible, but I do try.
Speaker 1: So there is that Is there room in the bed
Speaker 1: with your wife at night for you and your awesome talent?
Speaker 1: Probably not. Yeah, Luckily we've got a California king, so
Speaker 1: I guess the talent kind of sits between us. It
Speaker 1: seems to have enough room, So that's good. And as
Speaker 1: far as taking over the world one listener at a time,
Speaker 1: maybe I said one listener at a time at some point.
Speaker 1: But it was tough to find a way to end
Speaker 1: the show and didn't want to have some sort of,
Speaker 1: you know, take it easy kind of ending. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to steal somebody else's ending sentence. I do like
Speaker 1: keep the dirty side down in the shiny side up,
Speaker 1: but that's just mostly for my truck of friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't remember when I switched to the projection booth
Speaker 1: taking over the World. But that's how it's been in
Speaker 1: the outline for the longest time, and every once in
Speaker 1: a while I might change it up a little bit,
Speaker 1: but for the most part, Yeah, we've just been working
Speaker 1: on taking over the world. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: you hallucinated that then might be the case, but I'm
Speaker 1: sure that there is evidence out there to contradict me,
Speaker 1: and no, for sure. The first I don't know, one
Speaker 1: hundred two hundred episodes, I probably had no idea how
Speaker 1: to end the show once I found out that I
Speaker 1: wanted to take over the world and take over all
Speaker 1: those other podcasts and make mine the greatest in the universe.
Speaker 1: If not World, World, Solar System, Galaxy, universe, I'm fine
Speaker 1: taking over all of them. Let's go ahead and stick
Speaker 1: with some questions more. Let's go ahead and hear from
Speaker 1: Dallas Novelle, who is a longtime listener and we communicate
Speaker 1: via Instagram. It's always good hearing from Dallas, and very
Speaker 1: nice of him to send along this question list as well,
Speaker 1: so we've got a little bit of stuff from him.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and play that.
Speaker 2: Can you talk a little bit about the feedback that
Speaker 2: you received from filmmakers, authors, or even other podcasters who
Speaker 2: were allowed to guest host or even were featured on
Speaker 2: your show in response to what kind of audience they
Speaker 2: got after being on your show.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if I've ever really gotten
Speaker 1: that feedback. I will occasionally hear from somebody who said, oh,
Speaker 1: I heard this person on your show and I picked
Speaker 1: up their book, But that's a about it. It would
Speaker 1: always be nice if I did hear either from the
Speaker 1: filmmaker's authors, et cetera, or from the folks that might
Speaker 1: have checked out a movie. Every once in a while,
Speaker 1: I will get a I watched this movie because of
Speaker 1: his on your show, and I liked it a lot.
Speaker 1: I don't tend to get a I listened to your
Speaker 1: show and I watched this movie and I hated it.
Speaker 1: What movie did you guys watch? Though, every once in
Speaker 1: a while I make get that if we dislike a
Speaker 1: movie and people will come back with that, I've gotten
Speaker 1: a lot of all the things. Civil War Alex Garland
Speaker 1: Civil War seemed to cause the most consternation with people
Speaker 1: that we didn't like that movie. Actually have a review
Speaker 1: of the show from somebody who didn't like our review
Speaker 1: of it. So let's go ahead.
Speaker 14: And play that Triggered by Alex Garland. I typically enjoy
Speaker 14: the film analysis and depth of knowledge, but the hosts
Speaker 14: sounded completely triggered in the episode about Alex Garland's They
Speaker 14: were ranting about all the decisions he made for no
Speaker 14: reason and how enraging they found the movie for an
Speaker 14: entire hour plus fine for a two sentence letterboxed review,
Speaker 14: but I would expect a more thoughtful and thorough analysis
Speaker 14: of a film during such an extended dialogue. For me,
Speaker 14: it highlighted the occasional unfortunate tendency for their discussions to
Speaker 14: start sounding like an amateurish echo chamber.
Speaker 10: Dear Mike, big fan of the podcast and first time
Speaker 10: writing in, absolutely love the mix of in depth discussion
Speaker 10: and interviews. To me, it has always felt like the
Speaker 10: most well rounded film podcast available. This is also the
Speaker 10: first time I have felt compelled to write into any
Speaker 10: podcast I listened to with criticism. I listened to the
Speaker 10: Civil War episode and was struck by two things. One,
Speaker 10: A significant portion of your criticism of the movie is
Speaker 10: that the movie is different to the trailer, and that
Speaker 10: all three of you you expected a different film based
Speaker 10: on the trailer. The film speaks for itself. The trailer
Speaker 10: is there to sell the film to a wide audience.
Speaker 10: Whilst trailers, interviews and press releases may ultimately affect the
Speaker 10: expectations you bring into the film, it is surely down
Speaker 10: to you to let go of the baggage and assess
Speaker 10: the film on its own terms. Two, there was a
Speaker 10: great focus on disappointment that the film has nothing to say,
Speaker 10: Yet your discussion focused on elements the film clearly did
Speaker 10: not care to dwell on, such as how the Civil
Speaker 10: War started, what the politics of the different factions were,
Speaker 10: and how it relates to twenty twenty four as if
Speaker 10: it needs to. In your one hour discussion, you almost
Speaker 10: never explore what the film is clearly focusing on journalism
Speaker 10: and the gray morality involved in this objectivity. This point
Speaker 10: being missed is striking, with the perfect example being your
Speaker 10: discussion of the ending, where the consensus seemed to be
Speaker 10: that you didn't care that kissed and Dunst's character was
Speaker 10: killed when sacrificing herself. No one brought up what happened
Speaker 10: afterwards in that Kylie Spainey did not check on Dunst
Speaker 10: and instead carried on to make sure she gets the
Speaker 10: perfect photo, and Wagner Mura did not check on his partner,
Speaker 10: instead rushing to get an interview. When begged to not
Speaker 10: let the soldiers kill the president, Mura coldly acknowledges the
Speaker 10: plead as a quote, and is then captured in the
Speaker 10: photo standing alongside the soldiers who are committing a war crime.
Speaker 10: Whether or not you are invested emotionally dunced is a
Speaker 10: fair critique, though lacking without further elaboration. But to only
Speaker 10: view the ending in terms of her being killed rather
Speaker 10: than how the other journalists act signals that an understanding
Speaker 10: of the fundamental elements that encompass the film were either
Speaker 10: not picked up or were certainly not conveyed in the discussion.
Speaker 10: It is perfectly fine to miss the point of a film,
Speaker 10: though perhaps a shame for all three hosts guests to
Speaker 10: have done so so. But I just could not get
Speaker 10: over how all three of you were so hung up
Speaker 10: on the film being different to the trailer. It was
Speaker 10: mentioned for a split second that Alex Garland did not
Speaker 10: edit the trailer, which is then rebutted by stating it
Speaker 10: was Alex Garland who edited the film. It should really
Speaker 10: not be revelatory to hear that the film is the
Speaker 10: piece of art speaking for itself, not a trailer made
Speaker 10: to get a mass audience to buy tickets to view it.
Speaker 10: Not that you didn't have other criticisms that I'm sure
Speaker 10: would limit your appreciation of the film regardless, and a
Speaker 10: couple I found compelling, but it seemed fairly clear a
Speaker 10: large amount of the episode was spent both expressing disdain
Speaker 10: that the film had not been what you expected and
Speaker 10: not engaging with what the film was actually focusing on. Obviously,
Speaker 10: run the show as you please, and who am I
Speaker 10: to be listened to? But I was genuinely taken aback
Speaker 10: from listening to that episode and felt the need to
Speaker 10: write something. If this is even read, I hope it
Speaker 10: gives you something to think about. Laugh at best wishes Paul.
Speaker 1: So yeah, very interesting. I actually just got some feedback
Speaker 1: the other day, so speaking of Instagram from a friend
Speaker 1: on insert well, I guess he's a friend. It's very
Speaker 1: condescending when he was talking about our opinion of our
Speaker 1: Civil War episode and basically saying that we completely missed
Speaker 1: the point of everything and that we were too stupid
Speaker 1: to understand what was going on with that. Also, how
Speaker 1: much he disliked Father Malone and Christassue, which is not
Speaker 1: really a way to enjoy yourself to me, because obviously
Speaker 1: I podcast with those guys quite a bit. We do
Speaker 1: the Sopranos podcast with Chris, which has yet to come out.
Speaker 1: Hopefully one of these days that show called what No
Speaker 1: Fucking zd Will actually come out. And then with Father Malone,
Speaker 1: we do well, We've done quite a few things, but
Speaker 1: we've been doing midnight viewing over the last few years,
Speaker 1: and we are just about to wrap up all of
Speaker 1: the details from the Dark Side seasons and move on
Speaker 1: over to the Hammerhouse of Horror season that is out there,
Speaker 1: and then I'm sure we will find another horror anthology
Speaker 1: show to go through. So yeah, I've been podcasting with
Speaker 1: him for years and years and he is just about
Speaker 1: to be on yet another episode. Also with Chris, I
Speaker 1: do the well We've done Colombo, Colechak, Bernie Miller also
Speaker 1: do the Ranking on Bondo podcast with him, did Rings
Speaker 1: of Power, which hopefully we will do the second season
Speaker 1: of that pretty soon. Chris is a pretty good friend
Speaker 1: of mine, and so the way to my heart is
Speaker 1: not to critique him and talk about just what a
Speaker 1: shit co host he is, so, But as far as
Speaker 1: any feedback from filmmakers, yeah, nobody said, oh yeah, well
Speaker 1: I had a lot more people buy my movie afterwards,
Speaker 1: or got a lot more feedback from people after I
Speaker 1: was featured on the show. So yeah, the US thing
Speaker 1: about doing this, I mean, thank you Dallas, especially for
Speaker 1: giving me feedback. Every once in a while, Dallas will
Speaker 1: write to me and talk about different episodes he's listened to.
Speaker 1: I've got another friend, Chip who will do the same.
Speaker 1: That's great because podcasting, as we talked about in the
Speaker 1: age of audio episode podcasting is pretty lonely business. Me
Speaker 1: sitting here alone in front of a microphone talking to
Speaker 1: a hopefully not imaginary audience, but also just not getting
Speaker 1: any freaking feedback at all. Just putting out episodes week
Speaker 1: after week after week. You don't tend to get a
Speaker 1: lot of feedback on stuff, so you just basically hope
Speaker 1: that people are listening, look for download numbers, and assume
Speaker 1: that people have heard things. But yeah, it's kind of
Speaker 1: a strange biz to be in. There's not a great
Speaker 1: feedback loop. Let's say, can.
Speaker 2: You talk a little bit about your favorite decade of
Speaker 2: filmmaking and more specifically, what is it in that era
Speaker 2: that we're missing in our style of filmmaking today.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's any secret that my favorite decade
Speaker 1: of filmmaking is the nineteen seventies. A lot of it
Speaker 1: is because I grew up during most of that. I
Speaker 1: mean I was born in seventy two, so I missed
Speaker 1: out on quite a few things. I really wasn't too
Speaker 1: aware of the world by nineteen eighty when the decade
Speaker 1: was over, but I was exposed to a lot of
Speaker 1: things during that decade. Also just going back and catching
Speaker 1: up with the films back then. It was such an
Speaker 1: interesting era.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: We've talked about that confluence of things like Vietnam and
Speaker 1: Watergate and the spiritual vacuum that was going on in
Speaker 1: the US at the time, talking about you know, occultism.
Speaker 1: I mean, we had the Manson murderers, we had the
Speaker 1: beginnings of the oil crisis. We had a lot of
Speaker 1: interesting things going on at that time in the world. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I've talked about what was going on in nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: eight around the world with the student protests and so
Speaker 1: many different countries, and I really feel that that fed
Speaker 1: into the films of the decade. I just felt like
Speaker 1: it was a very cynical age. But yet at the
Speaker 1: same time you had things like Jaws and Star Wars
Speaker 1: and that kind of era of blockbuster Blockbuster Summer's beginning,
Speaker 1: and you also had the studio is still taking a
Speaker 1: lot of chances on things. And also the independent movement
Speaker 1: was still going on. You still had the drive in movement,
Speaker 1: You had a lot of regional filmmakers that were doing things.
Speaker 1: I know that we still have independent films happening today,
Speaker 1: but some of them are just not my cup of tea.
Speaker 1: Every once in a while, I'll get people sending me
Speaker 1: things and it's usually horror, and I'm like, it's not
Speaker 1: really my bag, baby. But I won't say that twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five is divorced from the ideals of the nineteen seventies. Obviously,
Speaker 1: we are in a big crisis time right now. I'm
Speaker 1: kind of looking forward to the rest of the twenty
Speaker 1: twenties and into the twenty thirties to see how what's
Speaker 1: going on that way is being reflected. That's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons I came down on Civil War so hard
Speaker 1: is that it just didn't feel like it actually took
Speaker 1: a stand I believe that in a movie, okay, what
Speaker 1: we should call it, The Hunt, that was basically taken
Speaker 1: out of theaters because people were too afraid of political
Speaker 1: violence and of his conservatives hunting liberals. I really feel
Speaker 1: that that was probably a much more edgy film. I
Speaker 1: have seen that, and I do remember enjoying it. I
Speaker 1: love people hunting people movies. I love that we have
Speaker 1: a new version of The Runningman coming out pretty soon.
Speaker 1: I want to see The Long Walk, which is coming
Speaker 1: out as I'm recording this first part of the episode.
Speaker 1: I love that cynical stuff, so I want to see
Speaker 1: more of that and less of the flash and sizzle
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Not to say I dislike just mindless entertainment,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I really felt that the seventies were a
Speaker 1: great time to see a lot of different filmmakers kind
Speaker 1: of learning their craft, some classic filmmakers still struggling to
Speaker 1: make their films and getting a lot of interesting things
Speaker 1: out of it. I imagine that if you look, if
Speaker 1: I were to do a chart of what era of
Speaker 1: movies we've talked about the most, I can see the
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies probably being the biggest spike, maybe eighty six
Speaker 1: because We've talked a lot about movies from nineteen eighty six,
Speaker 1: but yeah, the seventies definitely is my favorite era of films.
Speaker 2: Who are some of your favorite filmmakers working today and
Speaker 2: what do you think sets them apart from some of
Speaker 2: their contemporaries.
Speaker 1: So I have thought about this for well over twenty
Speaker 1: four hours since I got your question, Dallas. I have
Speaker 1: to say, there's nobody who I'm really rushing out to
Speaker 1: see their films. You would think I would be like
Speaker 1: a pig and slop with the new Aeronofski film coming out.
Speaker 1: Some people are super stoked for a new pt Anderson
Speaker 1: film coming out. Yeah, there's nobody who I'm really just
Speaker 1: following their career and excited when they have new things release,
Speaker 1: or read their interviews or any of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: I can't even think of documentary filmmakers or anyone from
Speaker 1: any country who I'm just like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got to see this film right now. The only
Speaker 1: thing that I'm excited about when it comes to new
Speaker 1: movies is when a new Rajna Kanth film comes out.
Speaker 1: If folks are unfamiliar, Rosna Kanth is the South Indian
Speaker 1: superstar who every one of his films is preceded by
Speaker 1: a little video where it calls him out as a superstar.
Speaker 1: We recently went to see Cooley, and I think it
Speaker 1: was last year or the year before we saw Jailer.
Speaker 1: I hear there's some sort of sequel to Jailor that
Speaker 1: might be coming out. I'm excited for that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's about it. And this last time I went to
Speaker 1: see a Raja Khan film, the audience was just super
Speaker 1: into it and everybody was screaming and clapping, especially when
Speaker 1: Raja Khan's video came up and some sort of anniversary.
Speaker 1: I think he's been working in films for fifty years now,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's pretty amazing. But yeah, as far as filmmakers, yeah,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the two films that I saw by the
Speaker 1: guy who did Barbarian and Weapons. But it's not like again, I'm,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I gotta see this guy's movies. I'm
Speaker 1: not a big like ariastor fan. There's nobody who's just
Speaker 1: really doing it for me every single time one of
Speaker 1: their movies comes out. I'm just kind of cautiously optimistic
Speaker 1: with certain filmmakers. But I'm still seeing a lot by
Speaker 1: the Old mass which is weird to say. As far
Speaker 1: as your Scorsese's, your Smielberg's, I mean, poor Briandon Palmer
Speaker 1: hasn't made a film in a while, nor has anything
Speaker 1: that he's made, oh for quite a while been anything
Speaker 1: I'm rushing out to see. Yeah, I'm sorry, I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm copping out on this one.
Speaker 2: Barney Miller felt like a perfect podcast to me. Can
Speaker 2: you talk about some of the feelings that emerge when
Speaker 2: you complete a project like that and have to step
Speaker 2: away from it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very odd when you come to the end
Speaker 1: of a podcast. We did that when we did Dreams
Speaker 1: for Sale, came to the end of the Twilight Zone
Speaker 1: eighty five run. Obviously, when we did Colchack, we both
Speaker 1: talked about the older Colchak as well as the reboot
Speaker 1: that was happening, And I mean, we'll go back to
Speaker 1: Police Squad. We've got an episode about the new Naked
Speaker 1: Gun that will be coming out for that. But there
Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of feelings around the end of Barney Miller.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that people enjoyed it. I'm especially glad that
Speaker 1: you enjoyed it. I had a lot of fun with
Speaker 1: that one. It was great getting to know Auto Bruno,
Speaker 1: speaking with Max Gale. Finally towards the end there was
Speaker 1: freaking fantastic. I hope people enjoyed the final episode for
Speaker 1: that one. I especially really hope that people enjoyed that
Speaker 1: I wrote out the letters goodbye in white rocks for
Speaker 1: when Chris took off in the helicopter and he could
Speaker 1: look down and see that. Actually doing a mash podcast
Speaker 1: would be fantastic, but there are other people that have
Speaker 1: done mash podcasts much better than I probably could. I'll
Speaker 1: probably get a little sad at the end of the
Speaker 1: Columbo podcast because it's so much fun to talk about,
Speaker 1: but with that one you get tempered by the ABC
Speaker 1: years and just how bad some of those episodes are.
Speaker 1: So it's going from a great fun thing to a
Speaker 1: slog probably in about six months here though. In between
Speaker 1: talking about season seven and season eight, we will be
Speaker 1: looking at a lot of things that came out between
Speaker 1: them from Levinson and Link, as well as from Peter Falk,
Speaker 1: so we've got a little bit of material in there.
Speaker 1: Probably won't cover vibes, I don't think. I think we'll
Speaker 1: be kind of choosy when it comes to what projects
Speaker 1: we'll talk about, but there is a Romanian film with
Speaker 1: a Colubo type character. There's also a Japanese series. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: out of the four films, I've only been able to
Speaker 1: find two, and only one of those with subtitles. So
Speaker 1: I'm hoping to dig up those over the next few months,
Speaker 1: and if other things come about, we will definitely cover
Speaker 1: those as well. It's actually a lot easier than I
Speaker 1: thought it would be to put a podcast to bed.
Speaker 2: I'm really enjoying finishing Berney Miller as well as keeping
Speaker 2: up with ranking on Bond and the Chevy Chase podcast.
Speaker 2: Can you talk about any other podcast ideas you're currently juggling.
Speaker 2: Any chance of a Dabney Coleman podcast in our future.
Speaker 1: I would really like to get back to the Rings
Speaker 1: of Power podcasts that we did. Had a great interview
Speaker 1: with the composer about his work on Rings of Power.
Speaker 1: I was very happy to talk with him, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the first season kind of. I would just
Speaker 1: like to get back and watch the second season and
Speaker 1: talk about that with Chris and I think the third
Speaker 1: season is coming up pretty soon, so there's that he
Speaker 1: and I. Chris and I have also been talking quite
Speaker 1: a bit about doing a Night Court podcast, which is
Speaker 1: another one that has that reboot that just took place.
Speaker 1: I think that might have gotten canceled now, but I'm
Speaker 1: not sure, but there are still people from that that
Speaker 1: are around, and it would be great if to have
Speaker 1: a conversation with like a Richard Mall or a John
Speaker 1: Larricat so many great character actors, it feels like barniey
Speaker 1: Miller and Night Court really go together well. It feels
Speaker 1: like some of the crazies that they were taking out
Speaker 1: of the twelfth Precinct could have easily been taken right
Speaker 1: into Judge Anderson's courtroom. As far as other things, Sam
Speaker 1: Degan and I were talking about doing a podcast dedicated
Speaker 1: to the works of Fastbender, but I think we are
Speaker 1: just way too busy, both of us together to engage
Speaker 1: in that. I've been thinking it'd be nice after we're
Speaker 1: done with Rank and on Bond to maybe go through
Speaker 1: all of the Elvis movies, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: Richard or Chris are into that idea. Feels like I've
Speaker 1: got a little bit of a running list of things
Speaker 1: that I'd like to cover. But also one of the
Speaker 1: things I've been wanting to do Chris Stash You had
Speaker 1: a show called The One Season Show where he would
Speaker 1: talk about TV shows that lasted for one season. There
Speaker 1: are quite a few shows that I've written down that
Speaker 1: I would love to talk about, things like The Chronicle.
Speaker 1: There's one called dead Last with Tyler la Bean that
Speaker 1: I would love to discuss. I think I've got a
Speaker 1: list of, gosh, maybe five or six different shows, and
Speaker 1: I kind of would like to just hijack his concept
Speaker 1: and even steal the theme music and everything and just
Speaker 1: go with that. Maybe have Mark Begley and I talk
Speaker 1: about some things. And again, that's a lot of commitment
Speaker 1: to time to do a full series watch even if
Speaker 1: it is just one season. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: I would do episode by episode or if I would
Speaker 1: just do one episode that talks about the entire season
Speaker 1: of that particular show. Gosh, remember that one with was
Speaker 1: Colin Hanks and Bradley Whitford. I think it was called
Speaker 1: The Good Guys. That was a lot of fun. I'd
Speaker 1: like to talk about that. I mean, hell, we could
Speaker 1: get Richard Adam on and we could talk about a
Speaker 1: few of his shows that have only lasted one season. Miracles,
Speaker 1: what was the one where the guy I died in Campell? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I remember being good And then what was that one?
Speaker 1: My friend Mike, his brother worked on it. Human Target.
Speaker 1: That would have been an interesting one. I think pretty
Speaker 1: sure that was just one season. Would have liked to
Speaker 1: have seen where that went, and I think part of
Speaker 1: the fun would be to talk about where these shows
Speaker 1: could have been. Actually, no, I just looked it up
Speaker 1: and it was two seasons, so have been able to
Speaker 1: cover that one. But that was a lot of fun
Speaker 1: as well. So there are a lot of great one season,
Speaker 1: two season shows out there, but to hold true to
Speaker 1: the premise, it would be just the one season show.
Speaker 1: As far as the Coleman cast, I would still like
Speaker 1: to do that. It's unfortunate that mister Coleman passed away recently,
Speaker 1: well recently for me as an old person, it feels
Speaker 1: like Tom moves in a little bit of a different way.
Speaker 1: It was probably I don't know, a year ago or something,
Speaker 1: but it just feels like it just happened. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it would be interesting to go through his hire filmography.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that one will ever happen, but
Speaker 1: that would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: With the understanding you don't really have a lot of
Speaker 2: free time to listen to podcasts, or you wouldn't make yours.
Speaker 2: What are your top favorite podcasts that aren't on the
Speaker 2: weirding Way Family right now? And it can be even
Speaker 2: people that you just enjoy guesting on.
Speaker 1: I still on my phone the podcasts that I still
Speaker 1: listen to regularly, So actually, I'll look up right now
Speaker 1: what I've got. So I still listen to one out
Speaker 1: of Michigan Radio called That's What They Say, which is
Speaker 1: about five minutes long, and it looks at different terms
Speaker 1: of phrase or idioms that we have. That's a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. I also listen to the pod News Daily Report,
Speaker 1: which James Kridlin hosts. I still listen to We Hate
Speaker 1: Movies fairly religiously. And speaking of religiously, I still listen
Speaker 1: to Got Awful Movies. I don't know if I'll ever
Speaker 1: be invited back on God Awful Movies again. I had
Speaker 1: a fairly god awful experience with those guys. I feel
Speaker 1: like I was not nearly as funny as I should
Speaker 1: have been while I was on their show talking about
Speaker 1: the Diniesh de Suza film. So that was kind of sad.
Speaker 1: And then I had two of the guys whom We
Speaker 1: Hate Movies on early on in the podcast days, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think they had a good time either, which
Speaker 1: is a real shame because I love their show. I
Speaker 1: love God Awful movies. The other show that I listened
Speaker 1: to that isn't on weirding Way Media is Richard Hadams
Speaker 1: Paranormal Bookshelf. I highly recommend that very interesting mix of
Speaker 1: talking about paranormal books as well as Richard's life. I
Speaker 1: find that kind of mixed to be pretty interesting. Otherwise, yeah,
Speaker 1: I spend most of my mornings or afternoons either listening
Speaker 1: to books or audio commentaries as I drive to and
Speaker 1: from work, so not a lot of chance to listen
Speaker 1: to podcasts. I have quite a backlog, especially of the
Speaker 1: We Hate Movies. It's just a lot of episodes I
Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to listen to. I was thinking
Speaker 1: about listening to those when I go out west, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to be in Utah for a little bit
Speaker 1: and driving around out there, but probably we'll be listening
Speaker 1: to Blood on the Moon, the James Elroy book, because
Speaker 1: we are going to be talking about cop pretty soon.
Speaker 1: Like I said, a lot of time, I just spend
Speaker 1: listening to books or audio commentaries related to things that
Speaker 1: we'll be discussing this year.
Speaker 2: You've definitely done a deep dive on some nostalgia artists
Speaker 2: from the eighties. We've seen Willopie Goldberg, Robin Williams, and
Speaker 2: to a greater extent, Chevy Chase. Obviously a lot of
Speaker 2: these visits were going to be a mixed bag. Can
Speaker 2: you talk a little bit about the motivation behind taking
Speaker 2: the good and the bad, going and visiting these and
Speaker 2: what was your motivation behind programming.
Speaker 1: These Chevy Chase thing that came out of a discussion
Speaker 1: I was on an episode of Wake Up Heavy with
Speaker 1: Mark Begley his show. We were talking about foul Play.
Speaker 1: I believe it was the first Chevy Chase feature film
Speaker 1: that wasn't the Groove Tube. He, Chris and I were
Speaker 1: on there, and I think Chris, who loves to turn
Speaker 1: projects in two different podcast series, was like, well, we
Speaker 1: should do this for all of Chevy Chase's movies, and
Speaker 1: he came up with the schedule, the list of films,
Speaker 1: some of the bonus episodes that we've done. So that's
Speaker 1: how that one came about, and God helped me these
Speaker 1: movies are so bad, but I had not seen a
Speaker 1: lot of them, so this was finally an excuse to
Speaker 1: see certain things like Christmas Vacation. I know I had
Speaker 1: seen Fletch and Fletch Lives once before, but I had
Speaker 1: never done the deep dive on that and listened to
Speaker 1: the books of the well listen to the first Fletch book.
Speaker 1: I actually also watch Fletch one and listen to the
Speaker 1: book that that was based on, and then reading some
Speaker 1: of these screenplays. Because I don't just half ass the stuff,
Speaker 1: as everybody who's listening to this probably knows, I try
Speaker 1: my best to do the deep dive. Find the scripts,
Speaker 1: find the audio commentary, find articles. I've been reading Chevy
Speaker 1: Chase's quote unquote autobiography, which is obviously written by somebody else.
Speaker 15: Boring. Listening to this podcast is like sitting in traffic
Speaker 15: with three dorks aka wine Cast trifecta over which gas
Speaker 15: station has the best coffee, Tedious, directionless, and somehow still
Speaker 15: boring and annoying. Listening to three nerds that still probably
Speaker 15: live at home with their mother go on and on
Speaker 15: about Chevy Chase movies. This podcast needs to be canceled
Speaker 15: like Chevy Chase's talk show back in.
Speaker 16: The day, Chasing Chevy is much tighter as a title,
Speaker 16: but Chevy Chases probably yields more search results. Gotta get
Speaker 16: them clicks. As someone who has sat through most of
Speaker 16: Chevy's filmography, they earn most of their stars simply watching
Speaker 16: the movies. Chevy was only in a handful or so
Speaker 16: of good films most of the time, neither he nor
Speaker 16: the material are really up to snuff. The hosts recognize that, however,
Speaker 16: they tend to repeat their points quite a bit that
Speaker 16: time would be better spent providing more background info on
Speaker 16: the production of the film. They get better at this
Speaker 16: towards the end of Chevy's filmography, like reading the shooting script.
Speaker 16: In fact, there's a whole podcast about Fletch Fletch Cast
Speaker 16: with Laker Jim, yet it was only mentioned in passing
Speaker 16: in one episode. Do some more research, fellas HDTGM provides
Speaker 16: some background info and encourages listeners to really engage with
Speaker 16: their show and the movies they watch. I understand Chevy
Speaker 16: and his body of work are kind of a shallow pool.
Speaker 16: For example, Chevy had a biography come out that was
Speaker 16: very short even compared other Hollywood Bios. Chevy's best work,
Speaker 16: which was written to suit him, was in Community. If
Speaker 16: you need a guest to discuss memoirs of an Invisible Man,
Speaker 16: I have the Blu Ray. It's not the best film,
Speaker 16: but Chevy actually tries. Overall, it's a good podcast with
Speaker 16: room for improvement.
Speaker 1: As far as the Robin Williams stuff, I think a
Speaker 1: lot of that was just the reaction to his death,
Speaker 1: which obviously had taken place that was a while ago,
Speaker 1: and just so many people talking about how great all
Speaker 1: of the movies were that he was in. So I
Speaker 1: decided to pick some of the what I considered to
Speaker 1: be some of the worst titles of his So again
Speaker 1: did my due diligence, looked into these movies as much
Speaker 1: as I could, tried to find the ones with the
Speaker 1: lowest Rotten Tomatoes and IMDb scores, even though one of
Speaker 1: my favorite films, Popeye, was in that category, so I
Speaker 1: skipped over that one since we had done an episode
Speaker 1: on Popeye before. And then I went ahead and talked
Speaker 1: about I think five films with Chris and found that
Speaker 1: some of these movies that were supposed to be very,
Speaker 1: very bad weren't nearly as bad. And some of them
Speaker 1: were horrible. I'm still just in awe of how bad
Speaker 1: some of those movies were. The film Man of the
Speaker 1: Year was wow. I still think about just how terrible
Speaker 1: that one was. As for Whoopi Goldberg, I'd had that
Speaker 1: idea in my mind for years that I wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about at least three of those four films for
Speaker 1: the longest time, and was just glad to do that.
Speaker 1: I was really happy to dive into those movies and
Speaker 1: just had a really good time talking about those. It
Speaker 1: was also a good excuse to listen to some of
Speaker 1: those Burglar books. It also was a chance to talk
Speaker 1: with some of the people behind some of those films.
Speaker 1: So talking with Tom Holland again not the kid from
Speaker 1: Spider Man, but the director, great hearing his stories, and
Speaker 1: then some of the interesting casting choices that were going on,
Speaker 1: and just I think three out of four of those
Speaker 1: were all supposed to be vehicles for other people. And
Speaker 1: then the way that Whoopi Goldberg and her comedy kind
Speaker 1: of rewrote those and the people that rewrote those things
Speaker 1: and how she fit or didn't fit into those was
Speaker 1: pretty interesting as well. That's the motivation behind all of those.
Speaker 2: He once made a comment about how you lost interest
Speaker 2: in modern music after the loss of Kurt Kobain. I
Speaker 2: think I fully understand that comment, but some of your
Speaker 2: younger audience might not totally get the impact he had.
Speaker 2: Is that a true statement for you? Still? Do you
Speaker 2: listen to new artists? Can you talk a little bit
Speaker 2: about the loss of him and what it meant to you?
Speaker 1: Is that statement still true? Yes, it is still very true.
Speaker 1: There are very few artists that I will actively listen to.
Speaker 1: I did put together a very extensive playlist that I
Speaker 1: brought with me out to Benton Harbor when I hung
Speaker 1: out with some friends. I guess I was two years ago,
Speaker 1: and it was all nineties music. Ironically, no Nirvana whatsoever,
Speaker 1: but it was all nineties music that I enjoyed a
Speaker 1: lot of one hitt wonders, things like Flag Polesia by
Speaker 1: Harvey Danger. I think it was probably one hundred songs,
Speaker 1: maybe more, and that also didn't get into some of
Speaker 1: the hard rock like Prong or Helmet. I think I
Speaker 1: might have had one Helmet song on there. Also didn't
Speaker 1: really get into too much rap, so it was more
Speaker 1: like power pop kind of things, or even some sappy
Speaker 1: stuff like Lisa loeb or Natalie and Bruglia. There are
Speaker 1: definitely songs from the nineties that I enjoyed, and so
Speaker 1: even though I did pretty much quit buying music after
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, this is how old I am. I
Speaker 1: still have a whole big rack of CDs. If I
Speaker 1: went through there, I would say most of them, with
Speaker 1: the exception, there are few artists that I still follow,
Speaker 1: and it's probably pretty not surprising when it comes to Yes,
Speaker 1: I started listening to They Might Be Giants in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty five or eighty six, whenever their first album came out,
Speaker 1: and I started listening to Weird Yankovic back in I
Speaker 1: figured this out recently because I saw him in concert
Speaker 1: and I was trying to impress upon people just how
Speaker 1: long he had been in my life. I think it
Speaker 1: was eighty three when his self titled album came out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So there are artists like that. When they have new albums,
Speaker 1: I will pick them up. But otherwise, with the exception
Speaker 1: of like James Goulchalko's Superstar, maybe just a handful of
Speaker 1: folks that'll pick up their things. Otherwise I'm just listening
Speaker 1: to a lot of older stuff or kind of filling gaps.
Speaker 1: There was a place that I worked at a few
Speaker 1: years ago go called vml Y and R where they
Speaker 1: had a Spotify playlist that everyone was invited to contribute to,
Speaker 1: kind of a way to share music. And there were
Speaker 1: a lot of older songs on there that I enjoyed,
Speaker 1: especially a lot of songs that became rap songs that
Speaker 1: I had never heard the original of, or even became
Speaker 1: maybe like a daft punk song. Yeah, there's quite a
Speaker 1: few songs like that where I'm like, oh, okay, this
Speaker 1: became this other thing. So I always enjoy hearing where
Speaker 1: the origination song was, Like the song that eminem that
Speaker 1: Hi my name is song, Like to hear where that
Speaker 1: riff came from. I find that fascinating. I always enjoy
Speaker 1: knowing where the samples come from. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I enjoy Paul's boutique so
Speaker 1: much is just hearing all of those samples and hearing
Speaker 1: sound being put together to make news. I guess when
Speaker 1: it comes to new music, the other thing that I
Speaker 1: enjoy is mash up albums and mash up songs, just
Speaker 1: to hear how things are recombined. But yeah, for the
Speaker 1: most part. I really did kind of drop out of
Speaker 1: music after Cobaine killed himself because I was just so
Speaker 1: into Nirvana. They were my favorite band. I was buying
Speaker 1: as many bootlegs or singles or rare things that I
Speaker 1: could find by them. I mean, I remember when Incesticide
Speaker 1: came out, I was super excited because I finally had
Speaker 1: some clean versions of some of these songs that I
Speaker 1: could only find on bootleg cassette tapes. So hearing some
Speaker 1: of that stuff pristine was really nice. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: just so into that band. I think I saw them
Speaker 1: twice in concert. I missed the Blind Pig Show, which
Speaker 1: a lot of people talk about around here in ann Arbor,
Speaker 1: but I did manage to see them at Scene Use Hall,
Speaker 1: and then once they got big, they played at the
Speaker 1: Michigan State Fairgrounds. I don't remember who opened for them then,
Speaker 1: but I just remember that being really as as Sullivan
Speaker 1: would say, a really big show that really took the
Speaker 1: wind right out of my sales. As far as the
Speaker 1: loss of him, yeah that was rough. I just really
Speaker 1: enjoyed his stance on things. I loved that kind of
Speaker 1: fuck you to mainstream music, that whole idea of using
Speaker 1: your fame to help prop up bands that have gotten
Speaker 1: you to where you are or that you feel other
Speaker 1: people should be listening to. So I never really would
Speaker 1: have listened to Flipper or The Vasilenes or some of
Speaker 1: those other bands had he not been wearing T shirts
Speaker 1: for them or talking about them in interviews. Kind of
Speaker 1: reminds me a little bit of mister Tarantino, where he
Speaker 1: would be talking up films back in the early nineties
Speaker 1: that quote unquote motivated him. Of course he never talked
Speaker 1: about City on Fire, but who we talk about? All
Speaker 1: these other films turned me onto a lot of filmmakers
Speaker 1: that I was unfamiliar with. Turn me on to Monty Hellman,
Speaker 1: so thank you for that, and same way with Cobaine
Speaker 1: turned me onto a lot of things that I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have listened to otherwise.
Speaker 2: What are some of your favorite and least favorite interviews
Speaker 2: you've done this year? And they don't necessarily have to
Speaker 2: be for shows you've already produced.
Speaker 1: As for favorite interviews, that is a tough one. Of course,
Speaker 1: every interview should be considered a favorite interview. But I
Speaker 1: have to say that being able to talk with folks
Speaker 1: like Gosh, Carrie Woods and Rob freed around their work.
Speaker 1: Also finally being able to talk with James A. Watson
Speaker 1: Junior for the Airplane two episode or gosh al Jean
Speaker 1: and Mike Reese, I mean, after seeing their names show
Speaker 1: up on so many Simpsons episodes, it was so great
Speaker 1: talking with them. I really got a kick out of
Speaker 1: talking with Sean Whalen. Most people would well not most people,
Speaker 1: because I'm old. People of my generation might remember him
Speaker 1: as the burger guy from the Got Milk commercial. Lately,
Speaker 1: I think Dominic Burgess was really fun to talk to
Speaker 1: when we spoke with him about his work on Feud
Speaker 1: and playing Victor Buono. That whole Victor Buono month was
Speaker 1: just a ton of fun being able to explore his
Speaker 1: career a little bit more and find out as much
Speaker 1: as we could about somebody who I really hold an
Speaker 1: esteem as far as his acting prowess, but whose personal
Speaker 1: life and kind of his biography is a little bit
Speaker 1: tough to find out. So really hoping that his nephew,
Speaker 1: who runs a whole YouTube channel. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he has put out a book or will be putting
Speaker 1: out a book, but I would love to read that
Speaker 1: all kinds of family history about Victor Buono. Other people
Speaker 1: that I enjoyed talking with, Jeff Cope, David Franzoni, Paul mccutten.
Speaker 1: It's been a really great year. I mean, I always
Speaker 1: appreciate everybody that I speak to you because I just
Speaker 1: appreciate that they actually take the time and talk with me.
Speaker 1: I mean, I recently had a chat with Stephanie Powers
Speaker 1: that was amazing. I wish that I could have seen her,
Speaker 1: but she was kind of hidden from camera view. I
Speaker 1: just got to see her eyes, and as Max says,
Speaker 1: she's gugious. So it was great being able to connect
Speaker 1: with her and talk with her about some of her work,
Speaker 1: and hopefully people enjoy the episode that she's on.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see how this goes. I'd like to play
Speaker 2: a little word association game with you and give you
Speaker 2: a chance to shout out to some of your Weirding
Speaker 2: Way family. Can you tell me the first thoughts that
Speaker 2: come into your head in as many and few words
Speaker 2: as you want. When I mentioned some of your regular
Speaker 2: co hosts, Chris Stasue.
Speaker 1: What is there to say about Chris Stashue that I
Speaker 1: haven't already said. I believe I've talked about him I'm
Speaker 1: feeling like a little brother. Care about the guy a lot.
Speaker 1: He's been going through some rough times. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've been listening to some of the later latest
Speaker 1: episodes of The Culture Cast. Chris is actually doing it
Speaker 1: as a solo show right now, though there are some
Speaker 1: recent episodes where he's had co hosts on there. I
Speaker 1: was on a episode recently about some Albert Brooks films.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that has come out or when
Speaker 1: it will be out. I'm really excited to always work
Speaker 1: with Chris. I feel that we have a good working relationship,
Speaker 1: and I am really excited. We have been working on
Speaker 1: a show for gosh over yeah, maybe a year and
Speaker 1: a half, maybe going on two years, all about the Sopranos.
Speaker 1: We are going through episode by episode. That is one
Speaker 1: where he is more the expert and I am the novice.
Speaker 1: I am the patawan on that one, and he's showing
Speaker 1: me the way. I've been having a great time watching that.
Speaker 1: I've actually asked him if we can record every two
Speaker 1: weeks instead of every month, just because I'm kind of
Speaker 1: forgetting who some of these characters are. Because it's such
Speaker 1: a rich tapestry of characters and such a strong storyline.
Speaker 1: I know how the show ends, so I won't be disappointed.
Speaker 1: I suppose when it comes to that end episode, it
Speaker 1: won't be another lost for me where I feel like
Speaker 1: it's shit the bed in the last episode. I hope
Speaker 1: I'm gonna not stop believing in that. Father Malone, Love
Speaker 1: Father Malone.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Oh man. He works so hard and puts me to
Speaker 1: shame when it comes to putting out so many episodes.
Speaker 1: I think he does one a week, if not two
Speaker 1: every week. I mean, it's wild. He is working on
Speaker 1: this taxi podcast. He is the he's the host of
Speaker 1: Midnight Viewing where he talks with Chris and I about
Speaker 1: once a month and we will record a couple episodes,
Speaker 1: and then he also puts out his own stuff. So
Speaker 1: it's wild to say just how much he's been putting
Speaker 1: out and how much Carrie puts into the podcast as well.
Speaker 1: So that's been great. Heather Drain, Heather Dream. I haven't
Speaker 1: talked with Heather and way too long. We text occasionally,
Speaker 1: just she is so nice and just so much fun
Speaker 1: to talk with and I just love how I can't
Speaker 1: say obsessive because that sounds like a bad word, but
Speaker 1: just so in depth when it comes to her research,
Speaker 1: and I just love how much she loves music and
Speaker 1: art and just I subscribe to her newsletter through her Patreon,
Speaker 1: and I would highly recommend that everybody do the same.
Speaker 1: She is just such a wonderful person and I wish
Speaker 1: she wasn't in Arkansas. I almost said Arizona. I wish
Speaker 1: he wasn't in Arkansas, because man, I would love to
Speaker 1: just hang out with her every week. Mark Bigley Mark
Speaker 1: went through some shit last year as well. I believe
Speaker 1: it was last year. It's over the last few months
Speaker 1: where he fell off a fucking ladder. Luckily, he's doing okay,
Speaker 1: seems to be recovering very well. Marcus always so much
Speaker 1: fun to talk with. He is so dry when it
Speaker 1: comes to his humor, and he comes out with things
Speaker 1: that I would not expect to hear coming out of
Speaker 1: his mouth, and I just always appreciate him for that,
Speaker 1: always enjoy talking about whatever with him. I think we
Speaker 1: almost broke him with that Robin Williams series when he
Speaker 1: came on and was talking about was Patch Adams. Maybe
Speaker 1: he wasn't very happy with that, but no, we get
Speaker 1: along great and it's been wonderful doing this whole Chevy
Speaker 1: Chase series with him. Not sure if we'll do anything
Speaker 1: with that afterwards, if we'll switch gears and maybe do
Speaker 1: that Deadney Coleman cast. I have a feeling we won't.
Speaker 1: We've been joking around about Dan Ackroyd, but I can't
Speaker 1: put myself through that. So definitely check out Wake Up
Speaker 1: Heavy and Cambridge and with Sean on the Weirdingly Media
Speaker 1: dot com network.
Speaker 2: Rob Saint Mary, Rob's over.
Speaker 4: Where's he Cat?
Speaker 1: New Mexico?
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to hang out with him
Speaker 1: very much at all over the last year. I think
Speaker 1: we did dinner before he went out there, and then
Speaker 1: maybe once when he came back for just a quick trip.
Speaker 1: I always enjoyed talking with Rob. He's just a trip.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that he has another big project that he's
Speaker 1: working on. I know he's been doing a lot of
Speaker 1: screenplays and I think he's been writing novels. Always curious
Speaker 1: to find out what he's working on, because again, very
Speaker 1: passionate about things.
Speaker 2: And Colin Gallagher.
Speaker 1: I love Colin Gallagher. Yeah, I'm sorry, it's just a
Speaker 1: big old love fest for me. He is such a
Speaker 1: nice person. Didn't get to see him at Newarkon last year.
Speaker 1: Won't be seeing him if he goes to newark On
Speaker 1: this year because I frankly just can't afford to fly
Speaker 1: out to Palm Springs every year. I'd much rather if
Speaker 1: it was over in Philadelphia. Just feels like a much
Speaker 1: more noir location. Also honors David Goodis our patron saint,
Speaker 1: but yeah, didn't get to see him last year. Hope
Speaker 1: to make a trip out to New York City again
Speaker 1: one of these days and hang out with them, because
Speaker 1: it's just always such a nice time and he's just
Speaker 1: the sweetest guy, and again just that laser focus when
Speaker 1: it comes to his research and really putting us all
Speaker 1: into stuff. Ah, some of the stuff that he's done
Speaker 1: around David Goodis has just been tremendous and highly recommend
Speaker 1: that you check out some of the books that he's
Speaker 1: done recently, and also check out his music Modern Silent Cinema,
Speaker 1: really good stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people fully realize the
Speaker 2: kind of work that you put into every show. The
Speaker 2: managing interviews, managing guests, managing co host recordings, editings, buying
Speaker 2: media researching shows what motivates you to continue doing what
Speaker 2: you do at the level you do it, Where does
Speaker 2: your professionalism come from.
Speaker 1: That's a really good question, because I'm not sure what
Speaker 1: motivates me when it comes to this. Every once in
Speaker 1: a while, I think, why the hell am I doing this?
Speaker 1: Why am I putting so much effort into doing something.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's not for the money, it's not for the laurels,
Speaker 1: not resting on any laurels around here. I guess it's
Speaker 1: just because I have fun doing it. I have a
Speaker 1: lot of fun putting together these shows, doing that research,
Speaker 1: reaching out to people, trying to put together the best
Speaker 1: kind of show that I can. Maybe out of spite,
Speaker 1: but I don't think so. I think I just enjoy
Speaker 1: having that finished product. When I did Cashews to Cinema,
Speaker 1: the magazine or zine, I had those to hold in
Speaker 1: my hand. I don't have that material product to hold
Speaker 1: in my hand anymore. I just have these zeros and
Speaker 1: ones that are kind of floating around out there. And
Speaker 1: it's not like I get a lot of feedback for
Speaker 1: putting these things out there. I just do it. And
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is making those connections
Speaker 1: and talking with people that I want to talk with
Speaker 1: and that I just have a lot of fun with
Speaker 1: the whole idea of having this rotating group of co hosts.
Speaker 1: It's always like putting together kind of a cocktail party
Speaker 1: and seeing what happens, seeing what that chemistry is going
Speaker 1: to be like pulling people from different walks of life,
Speaker 1: from different backgrounds, and the only thing that really unites
Speaker 1: us is a love of film. But it's so much
Speaker 1: fun when we have those great conversations. And I especially
Speaker 1: love when I talk with people that put a new
Speaker 1: spin on things, show me things that I haven't been
Speaker 1: thinking about. That is a blast for me. As far
Speaker 1: as professionalism, I don't know. I guess I still throw
Speaker 1: my mind back to the original classes that I took
Speaker 1: when I was in high school around journalism and working
Speaker 1: on the school paper and just wanting to do the
Speaker 1: best that I possibly could. Also, just when I was
Speaker 1: in college and even in high school, writing papers and
Speaker 1: really putting my all into that, trying to dig deep,
Speaker 1: trying to say more than is just on the surface.
Speaker 1: I used to have a real hard time when I
Speaker 1: was in high school and even into college when I
Speaker 1: would present arguments, but I wouldn't necessarily tie them all together.
Speaker 1: I would present something and I would basically say like,
Speaker 1: well here's A and here's B. But I would never
Speaker 1: say A plus B equals C. And that was what
Speaker 1: was missing from my writing. So I really tried to
Speaker 1: do that after I graduated and when I started to
Speaker 1: write things for myself, and now when it comes to
Speaker 1: the podcast, I really want to make those connections a
Speaker 1: lot more clear. If I can really put out those ideas,
Speaker 1: sometimes they may not work. Sometimes I just will float
Speaker 1: ideas out there. Every once in a while, I'll catch
Speaker 1: myself just saying something kind of I don't know, crazy,
Speaker 1: or things that I don't think necessarily makes sense, but
Speaker 1: just to get a reaction from my co host, just
Speaker 1: to see what floats what doesn't. But as far as professionalism,
Speaker 1: if you're talking about the show, I mean, I'm always
Speaker 1: trying to improve, always trying to make things sound better,
Speaker 1: trying to eliminate all those ums and uhs, and really
Speaker 1: try to give you a good conversation, good solid conversation,
Speaker 1: and especially not one where people are talking over each
Speaker 1: other and just being a bunch of yahoos like that.
Speaker 1: Nobody needs that. Let's make it sound very civil. Let's
Speaker 1: try to have a very nice educational conversation where we
Speaker 1: can bring up our points and just have a good
Speaker 1: time doing it, and hopefully people will be entertained by
Speaker 1: it as well as maybe learn a thing or two.
Speaker 1: Sound like Bill Cosby when I say that, and not
Speaker 1: the creepy Bill Cosby, but I'm talking about like the
Speaker 1: Cosby Show original Bill Cosby.
Speaker 17: This is Bill Cosby coming at you with music and fun,
Speaker 17: and if you're not careful, you may learn something before
Speaker 17: it's done.
Speaker 2: I guess my last question is my quiet. If you
Speaker 2: weren't doing podcasting, what would you be doing.
Speaker 1: I do have a day job, so I would be
Speaker 1: doing the day job, and I would probably be doing
Speaker 1: more writing. I would probably use some of the time
Speaker 1: that I used for podcasting to do more writing. I
Speaker 1: don't know who I would be writing for, but I
Speaker 1: would definitely be writing for myself. And then maybe I
Speaker 1: would try to get further into the field of audio commentaries,
Speaker 1: because those are a lot of fun when I've done those.
Speaker 1: I'm counting hopefully that in seven years I will be
Speaker 1: able to retire, hang out with my wife Moore, she
Speaker 1: retired earlier this year, maybe actually have some fun, go
Speaker 1: on some vacations, those kind of things, but also work
Speaker 1: on the podcast a lot more than I already do,
Speaker 1: because I always feel that I could make it better,
Speaker 1: that I could be looking forward even more, and who knows,
Speaker 1: just even being the number of episodes that I do,
Speaker 1: I don't know. But yeah, I've got the day job
Speaker 1: that keeps me very busy. I'm in the car by
Speaker 1: seven o'clock every morning, out of the car by six
Speaker 1: pm every night, and working at a desk from eight
Speaker 1: to five ish every single day. So yeah, it's that
Speaker 1: keeps me very very busy. What instrument did you play
Speaker 1: in band and band? I played the clarinet when I
Speaker 1: was younger. When I was about five years old, I
Speaker 1: think my mom started taking me four piano lessons and
Speaker 1: we had an upright piano in our house. So I
Speaker 1: played piano, probably not as long as I think I
Speaker 1: did five six years something like that, I don't remember
Speaker 1: how long, and then in I think it was sixth
Speaker 1: grade going into seventh Definitely, by the time I was
Speaker 1: in seventh grade, I was in band at school and
Speaker 1: had a great time. The clarinet is a lot of
Speaker 1: fun a lot of boring parts though for the clarinet,
Speaker 1: when it came to some of the songs that we
Speaker 1: would do, so I'd always enjoy listening to the trumpets
Speaker 1: and kind of double their parts on the clarinet, which
Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't have been doing, but you get bored
Speaker 1: a little. So I did have a lot of fun
Speaker 1: in well. I had a lot of fun in the
Speaker 1: first year of high school being in marching band and
Speaker 1: some phonic band, marching during the fall, some phonic during
Speaker 1: the winter after football season was over. And had a great,
Speaker 1: great teacher when I was a freshman. Unfortunately, my school
Speaker 1: district was very reliant on a god. This is going
Speaker 1: to make me sound like I live in Pittsburgh or something,
Speaker 1: but we're very reliant on a steel mill and the
Speaker 1: steel mill. Sometimes there would be a millage that would pass,
Speaker 1: sometimes there wouldn't, and when it kind of depended on
Speaker 1: how well the steel mill was doing. And when the
Speaker 1: millage didn't pass, that means that we didn't have very
Speaker 1: much money for school, so they would cut things out
Speaker 1: like band. So they cut that teacher who I liked
Speaker 1: so much, put in somebody who came over from the
Speaker 1: junior high and he pretty much just wanted to do
Speaker 1: the same songs every single week at our football games.
Speaker 1: Very rudimentary songs for Symphonic Band suffered through him for
Speaker 1: a year. They got another band teacher and I just
Speaker 1: could not stand to her whatsoever. Again, we were doing
Speaker 1: more of a glidestep than our traditional high step that
Speaker 1: we would do that was very much based on what
Speaker 1: U of M would do. And actually, I take it back,
Speaker 1: you know what I so I quit band. Where maybe
Speaker 1: I got kicked out of band, I think it was
Speaker 1: more of a quit, especially when I found out that
Speaker 1: that band instructor from when I was a junior blackballed
Speaker 1: me from the Honor Society. So I wasn't able to
Speaker 1: get into that. Me and another kid who cheat hit
Speaker 1: on tests. So I guess just being a bad citizen
Speaker 1: was enough to get me out, and I guess his
Speaker 1: citizenship probably wasn't that great for him either, But so yeah,
Speaker 1: two of the kind of people in the top twenty
Speaker 1: or so of students weren't an Honor Society because we
Speaker 1: were bad kids. Just to clarify, the other kid cheated,
Speaker 1: I just was an asshole. So I wasn't in band
Speaker 1: when I was a senior, and I did do I
Speaker 1: think one semester of band when I was in college,
Speaker 1: but I don't remember us doing any performing at all,
Speaker 1: and we're just kind of a smaller group. Had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with the marching band. That would have been
Speaker 1: kind of a dream to get into that, though, again
Speaker 1: a lot of work. Back when I was in a
Speaker 1: lot better shape. I could hold up that knee and
Speaker 1: hold that clarinet at the same time and just stand
Speaker 1: there for forever, it felt like, without having to put
Speaker 1: down that foot and switch it up to the other
Speaker 1: knee and go from there. Yeah, very disciplined in marching band.
Speaker 2: I know you've said that you don't read fast, which
Speaker 2: makes me feel great about myself because I'm a very
Speaker 2: slow reader. But how do you manage to interview so
Speaker 2: many authors and be so fully prepared, because it's clear
Speaker 2: you've read their books.
Speaker 1: Every night before I go to bed, I try to
Speaker 1: read a few pages and try to get really the
Speaker 1: gist of everything that's going on. But I will try
Speaker 1: to read books as much as I possibly can before
Speaker 1: I speak with an author. If there's an audio book,
Speaker 1: that makes things a lot easier. Also, if they send
Speaker 1: me like a PDF file, that makes things a lot easier.
Speaker 1: So I'm not holding a book in my hands, I'm
Speaker 1: just holding a iPad or whatever makes it a little
Speaker 1: simpler when it comes to reading. But yeah, I just
Speaker 1: also try to make sure that I'm starting reading things
Speaker 1: at the right time and giving myself a few weeks
Speaker 1: to read things, just to make sure that I'm not rushing.
Speaker 1: At the very end, as I am recording this, I'm
Speaker 1: about to jump on a call with Barbara Creed, author
Speaker 1: of The Monsters Feminine. I read Monsters Feminine, but I
Speaker 1: didn't read all of her books, so hopefully she didn't
Speaker 1: suddenly change horses mid stream and say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I guess I was wrong. Maybe there is an objection,
Speaker 1: maybe things are a little bit different. But I really
Speaker 1: just wanted to talk to her about her and about
Speaker 1: her work, and about objection, and about some of the
Speaker 1: movies that we have coming up for October. I'm excited
Speaker 1: to hear what she has to say about those. But yeah,
Speaker 1: mostly it is trying to start reading at the right
Speaker 1: time and then trying to be as disciplined as I
Speaker 1: can to make sure that I read at least a
Speaker 1: few pages every night before I go to bed, or
Speaker 1: before I switch over and start playing Plants Versus Zombies
Speaker 1: two or something.
Speaker 18: Hello everyone, this is Marvin McDowell. I just want to
Speaker 18: say that this is a request to listeners of the
Speaker 18: Projection Booth podcast to become patrons of the show via
Speaker 18: Patreon dot com p A T e n dot com
Speaker 18: slash Projection Booth. That's pretty simple.
Speaker 4: I think you can do that.
Speaker 18: It's a great show and Mike he provides hours of
Speaker 18: great entertainment. So now it's time to give back my
Speaker 18: little drovies. Settle down and take a listen and have
Speaker 18: a sip of the old Molocco and then you'll be
Speaker 18: ready for a little of the.
Speaker 19: Old in out, in out real horror show.
Speaker 15: Bye bye.
Speaker 2: I apologize that this one's already been asked, but every
Speaker 2: time you hear the spot with Malcolm McDowell, I'm blown away.
Speaker 2: And how did you make that happen? Like, did you
Speaker 2: write the script? Did you just ask him? Did you
Speaker 2: pay him? Do you have blackmail material on him? How
Speaker 2: did that all come together?
Speaker 1: That was a cameo. I don't remember how much I
Speaker 1: paid for him to do the cameo. Kind of the
Speaker 1: same thing with Ed Begley Junior. I don't know. You
Speaker 1: probably since you are a Patreon you probably saw the
Speaker 1: Ed Begley Junior spot ed. Begley Junior refused at first
Speaker 1: to do it because he thought he was talking about Patron,
Speaker 1: uh the liquor, but no, actually he was talking about
Speaker 1: Patreon the service. Same thing with Malcolm McDowell also a
Speaker 1: cameo with him. I well, actually with both of them,
Speaker 1: I just kind of gave them the idea of where
Speaker 1: we wanted to go. And with McDowell towards the end
Speaker 1: of the little script, because it's a very small amount
Speaker 1: of words you can put into one of those notes
Speaker 1: through cameo, I think I basically made a little tiny
Speaker 1: reference to clockwork Orange. I might have used the word drew,
Speaker 1: or I might have said something in there like right
Speaker 1: right or something like that, and he picked up on
Speaker 1: that and made it into a whole thing. And yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: just super happy that he did that for me, And yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's a great ad. And you know, guys
Speaker 1: freaking professional, so I was very happy with the way
Speaker 1: that it turned out. So no, didn't actually have very
Speaker 1: much personal contact with him and whatsoever. I just basically
Speaker 1: asked him to record a spot for me, and that's
Speaker 1: what he did. So no dirty pictures of him or anything.
Speaker 2: Like that. So, Mike, if you could make a movie,
Speaker 2: what kind of movie would you make? And I guess
Speaker 2: the follow up is, do you have any screenplays that
Speaker 2: you've written that are sitting around collecting dust?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: I have had a few ideas for a couple of
Speaker 1: movies flowing around in my head for a while. I
Speaker 1: wrote one out as a short story, and the other
Speaker 1: one is just still kind of in my head. I
Speaker 1: don't want to talk too much about those because I
Speaker 1: would still like to write those one of these days.
Speaker 1: But one of them is more of a historical epic
Speaker 1: about Copernicus, and the other one is more of a
Speaker 1: kind of fits into that like paper Moon, Oh Brother, Whereat,
Speaker 1: they'll throw back to the thirties depression era kind of things,
Speaker 1: maybe based a little bit on our gang Slash the
Speaker 1: Little Rascals. Those are just ideas that I've had. And
Speaker 1: then I mean, if I was given carte blanche and
Speaker 1: able to make any type of movie I would want to,
Speaker 1: I mean, it would probably be it would probably be
Speaker 1: fairly out there.
Speaker 2: I would hope.
Speaker 1: I can't even say some of the films that I
Speaker 1: would like to emulate, just because they are done so well,
Speaker 1: and I don't have the faith in myself as an
Speaker 1: artist to say that I would do nearly as well.
Speaker 1: You know, there's only one American astronaut. There's only one
Speaker 1: Greasy Strangler. You know, there's these movies that you hold
Speaker 1: in high esteem and you wish that your stuff could
Speaker 1: be as good as them. But really not much of
Speaker 1: a filmmaker, even when I was younger. Made a few
Speaker 1: movies in college, but they're pretty silly. I think the
Speaker 1: thing that I still like is doing who do you
Speaker 1: think You're fooling? And that was just because I have
Speaker 1: so much fun when it comes to editing and the
Speaker 1: juxtaposition of images, and really that's what I like so
Speaker 1: much when it comes to certain films, especially experimental films,
Speaker 1: is really good editing.
Speaker 2: So it's really clear that you and Elliott Gould have
Speaker 2: a very good rapport and he interviews with you very well.
Speaker 2: What's holding up the ELI eight Gould book? Do we
Speaker 2: need to send Malcolm mcdoll over to twist his arm?
Speaker 1: I think the thing that's holding me up the most
Speaker 1: is just time and spending so much time working on
Speaker 1: the podcast, doing the day job. I have done a
Speaker 1: lot of research on it. I still have all my
Speaker 1: notes from going over to the University of Michigan and
Speaker 1: looking at the California Split papers, the well, it's the
Speaker 1: Altman collection, So California Split, Mash and the Long Goodbye
Speaker 1: still have all the materials that I put together. I
Speaker 1: still will ask people if they've been in things with
Speaker 1: Gold what that experience was like. Still kind of tracking
Speaker 1: down some folks when it comes to that. I would
Speaker 1: love to just take a week or two and fly
Speaker 1: out to Los Angeles and hang out with Elliott and
Speaker 1: just ask him a ton of questions, get as much
Speaker 1: out of him as I possibly could. Though, if you've
Speaker 1: listened to some of those interviews, you know that he
Speaker 1: is kind of obtuse when it comes to some of
Speaker 1: his answers. So I still feel like he's kind of
Speaker 1: fucking with me when it comes to some of the
Speaker 1: discussions that we've had. I am hoping to have another
Speaker 1: interview with him again in twenty twenty six. Really want
Speaker 1: to do an episode on the film Matilda, kind of
Speaker 1: more of the darker days of his nineteen seventies career.
Speaker 1: But I really that's the thing is that the nineteen
Speaker 1: seventies and him were such an interesting period of time
Speaker 1: for me just to see this actor who wasn't a
Speaker 1: traditional leading man type and the way that he broke
Speaker 1: in the way that he was so popular, and just
Speaker 1: all the different types of movies he made throughout the
Speaker 1: entire decade. I would love to have done that with
Speaker 1: Donald Sutherland as well, but yeah, his person was a
Speaker 1: real piece of work. Had no idea why I would
Speaker 1: have wanted to talk to him about Elliott Gould or
Speaker 1: some of these movies, having no idea that her client
Speaker 1: was in multiple movies with Elliott.
Speaker 13: Gould, not just mash.
Speaker 1: So take that as you will.
Speaker 2: So it's clear you've definitely gone past your ten thousand
Speaker 2: hours and analyzing films and scripts and stories. And I'm
Speaker 2: always impressed the way you and Chris and even Father
Speaker 2: Malone can just off the cuff come up with a
Speaker 2: suggestion that would make a bad film so much better.
Speaker 2: Do you ever have filmmakers come to you and ask
Speaker 2: you for advice or help analyzing their scripts films in progress?
Speaker 1: And never had anybody come to me and ask me
Speaker 1: to take a look at well, actually I take that back.
Speaker 1: I had one friend who asked me to look at
Speaker 1: a script years and years ago. I believe it was
Speaker 1: about a horror host and the script was great. I
Speaker 1: think I gave some feedback. I'm pretty terrible when it
Speaker 1: comes to feedback because I remember there was the executive
Speaker 1: editor of a magazine. Before he started the magazine, he
Speaker 1: came to me and said, you know, you've been doing
Speaker 1: Cashier's to cinemat for all these years. What advice would
Speaker 1: you give to a person who wanted to start a magazine?
Speaker 1: And my advice was don't. It's a thankless job. It's expensive,
Speaker 1: it's pretty harrowing, there's not a lot of upside to it,
Speaker 1: a lot of long nights, a lot of worry about things,
Speaker 1: the distribution of things. And then of course he turned
Speaker 1: around and did a magazine and it's actually still going today,
Speaker 1: so fuck me right. So I feel like he probably
Speaker 1: thinks I'm the biggest dumbass in the world, which I
Speaker 1: will not deny. As far as looking at films and progress,
Speaker 1: I have given notes on mostly documentaries things that friends
Speaker 1: have made, But a lot of times no, I would say,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things where I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I would love to give you some feedback
Speaker 1: about this or take a look at it. No, No,
Speaker 1: people don't ask me for advice, so I think my
Speaker 1: track record of giving bad advice must precede me.
Speaker 2: Okay, last question, it's kind of an important one. Did
Speaker 2: Joshthan Kaplan actually ever send you that truck turner blu ray?
Speaker 1: Yes, you're making a reference to when Jonathan Kaplan passed
Speaker 1: away recently, and I said that I never spoke with him, well,
Speaker 1: never had an interview with him. I exchanged some emails
Speaker 1: with him, really wanted him to be on the show,
Speaker 1: really wanted to talk with him around over the edge.
Speaker 1: I would have loved to have talked to him about
Speaker 1: truck turner. And he did say, you know, give me
Speaker 1: your address, I'll send you a blu ray of truck turner.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. He must have just had a
Speaker 1: big old stash or something, because it was just kind
Speaker 1: of an odd thing to volunteer. So I gave him
Speaker 1: my address, and sure enough, he sent me a blu
Speaker 1: ray of truck turner. I don't even know if he
Speaker 1: signed it, but yeah, it was a nice gesture, and
Speaker 1: I really wish that he would have been able to
Speaker 1: take the time to talk with me about stuff, but
Speaker 1: you know, it was his choice and that's the way
Speaker 1: that things go. So I know some people don't like
Speaker 1: to revisit the past, which is very bad for me
Speaker 1: and what I like to do.
Speaker 13: Solid podcast with great deep dive reporting, although definitely not
Speaker 13: for beginners. Deducting one staff for completely missing the historical
Speaker 13: background behind nineteen eighty four and going straight for trite
Speaker 13: modern political comparison instead.
Speaker 1: Ben Buckingham asks, when do we get a projection booth calendar?
Speaker 1: As far as a projection booth calendar, I tried that once,
Speaker 1: but me and a fireman's outfit with no shirt on,
Speaker 1: just the suspenders. That was too much. It melted the
Speaker 1: lens of the camera. It was just too hot. So
Speaker 1: probably no projection booth calendar coming out anytime soon, if
Speaker 1: I suppose now, because I don't make anything. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not like I draw, It's not like I have
Speaker 1: any sort of visual skills whatsoever. I would just be
Speaker 1: lifting images from other movies or things, or maybe four
Speaker 1: months off. It could be some of the logos that
Speaker 1: we've had over the years, But probably no projection booth
Speaker 1: calendar anytime soon. Instead, Yah, I recommend the Jeopardy Page
Speaker 1: a day calendar, which is what I have on my
Speaker 1: desk at work, gets me entertained and makes me feel
Speaker 1: superior to everyone.
Speaker 9: Robert Mains asks what is left for you to do
Speaker 9: to get the two thousand and one episode out the door?
Speaker 1: So with the two thousand and one episode, I have
Speaker 1: been working with an editor over in Poland for the
Speaker 1: last let's see it is coming up on October. I've
Speaker 1: been working with him for well, We've been working together
Speaker 1: on different things for a few years. He posted originally
Speaker 1: on Reddit and was asking about editing people's podcast episodes,
Speaker 1: and I said, well, if you want that, and I've
Speaker 1: done this before with other people where they will say, oh,
Speaker 1: I want to learn more about editing, I will edit
Speaker 1: your episode for free. And I go, okay, I'm not
Speaker 1: counting on you to actually do this or anything, but
Speaker 1: here's a folder with all of these files go nuts,
Speaker 1: and I just will share out like a dropbox folder
Speaker 1: and say, here you go, here's my deadline. Good luck.
Speaker 1: And I would say, if I've done it ten times,
Speaker 1: nine people have failed. One person has actually come through
Speaker 1: and edited stuff for me. He actually has edited a
Speaker 1: few episodes. It's been a long time since he's done
Speaker 1: one of those for me. I can't even remember the
Speaker 1: last time, but either he reached out to me or
Speaker 1: I reached out to him and I said, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I have got so much material and this is not
Speaker 1: generated fully by me. This I would say, maybe I've
Speaker 1: done a tenth of this work and the other ninety
Speaker 1: percent is all coming from Mondo Justin. And I said,
Speaker 1: I've got so much material around this two thousand and
Speaker 1: one episode, I would love for you to edit that
Speaker 1: for me, and we agreed to a price, and ever
Speaker 1: since then, he's been doing gosh, I don't even know
Speaker 1: how many hours of editing every single month, and then
Speaker 1: throwing files into my dropbox for me, penging me saying okay,
Speaker 1: I've done this much, I need this much money. So
Speaker 1: every month I've been paying him regularly, so I think
Speaker 1: I've gotten until the end of the year before he
Speaker 1: thinks he'll be done with that stuff, and then it's
Speaker 1: up to me to piece all of these things together.
Speaker 1: I mean, the interview with Gary Lockwood that Mondo Justin did,
Speaker 1: that was a two parter and I think the final
Speaker 1: total was five hours. Though that's not all two thousand
Speaker 1: and one stuff. There's maybe I don't know. I'm going
Speaker 1: to guess an hour of two thousand and one. Gary
Speaker 1: Lockwood was very loquacious when it came to that interview,
Speaker 1: and I did listen to it all I've listened to
Speaker 1: I think all of these interviews, threw them onto my
Speaker 1: phone and listened to them in the car on the
Speaker 1: way back and forth to work. And it was just
Speaker 1: way too much that way for me to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: at one hour, fifteen minutes, there's a good bit here,
Speaker 1: at two hours thirty minutes, there's a good but here.
Speaker 1: So I have been working with this editor to say, okay,
Speaker 1: whenever there's a discussion of two thousand and one, pull
Speaker 1: that out, label it as what it is in reference to,
Speaker 1: and then I will start to pull all those things together.
Speaker 1: I mean, this episode, when it finally comes out, is
Speaker 1: going to be a monster. It's kind of like the
Speaker 1: Psycho Pike episode, which is also going to be pretty monstrous.
Speaker 1: No one's asking for a Psycho Pike episode, but I'm
Speaker 1: doing it anyway. Kind of the same thing with the
Speaker 1: two thousand and one episode. I mean, who needs to
Speaker 1: hear more about two thousand and one? But hopefully it'll
Speaker 1: be entertaining for folks, And again, possibly educational.
Speaker 12: I love this film, but it's ruined when a bunch
Speaker 12: of useless, worthless leftists are whining about how easy it
Speaker 12: is to get guns in America. I used to like
Speaker 12: all the research that went into PB episodes. Clearly you
Speaker 12: are part of the problem. Brace yourself. It's going to
Speaker 12: a whole lot worse for you leftists.
Speaker 1: And now it is time for everyone's favorite part of
Speaker 1: every ego fest, which is where I just go through
Speaker 1: and read the names of people who are currently giving
Speaker 1: to the Patreon. I always appreciate that, so I always
Speaker 1: want to give folks a shout out. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't do the whole thanks to my Patreon supporters. I
Speaker 1: should probably do thanks to the new people every single
Speaker 1: time I do an episode, but I am terrible at
Speaker 1: remembering to do that. So instead, I'm going to sit
Speaker 1: here and I'm going to read one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: eight names of people. So get ready, in the words
Speaker 1: of Richard HadAM, here we go. First up, Kyler Faye,
Speaker 1: Jordan Nash, Andrew Hendrickson, James Brummel. It's either Quixote or
Speaker 1: Keyshotte Dallas Novell, Bryan Tessitore, John Adam Andre Edou, Radio
Speaker 1: eight Ball, Jessica Shires, Peter Rogers, pat Radkey, r E Jasso,
Speaker 1: Charles Evans Junior. Also a great interview that I had
Speaker 1: this year.
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Speaker 1: Lovejoy, Bjorn Honnor, Jim Lakowski, Victor Laval, Stewart, Rankin Winter, Tyson,
Speaker 1: Ellis Kish, Vincenzo Natali, John Jenks, Journey Eman, Estee Podcast,
Speaker 1: Stephen Byrne, James Grant, Daniel Davis, Alan Goldhammer, Mondo Guano,
Speaker 1: Dylan Harrington, Kevin Matthews, Yoshi Logano, Butterball eight, Vaughn Howard A. Rodman,
Speaker 1: Charlie Bonomo, Bobby Power, David Hines, David Springfield, Chris Martz,
Speaker 1: Drew A. Yavor, Jonathan Melville, Paul Ryan, Tino Wicklan, Thiago Barbosa,
Speaker 1: De Miranda, Jim Stevens, Dylan Davis, Collen Gallagher, Nico Schmidt,
Speaker 1: isal Azam Quersci, Drew Bateman, Gabe Weissert, Nathan Linker, Jason Jeffers,
Speaker 1: Gabe Kaplan, Ludo Round, Richard Wellens, Noel Thingball, Douglas Stewart,
Speaker 1: Sam Degan, Sean Midas, David McCallum, Geez Andrew, Ian Brownell,
Speaker 1: Jim Haniel Barbosa, Chris Martin, Michael Harris, Gabrielle Wheeler, George Smith,
Speaker 1: Regurgitated Guts, Neil Daniel, Gary Jaffey, Joshua Baugash, could be Boat,
Speaker 1: gay Gie Lb, Michael Marks, Tickles, the Lish, Ramsey, Ebed,
Speaker 1: Bill Ackerman, Eric Luther, David Hart, k l Young, Unkie
Speaker 1: d Seven Rufus, Heather Draine, Justin Whiteman, j A. Daniel Cunningham,
Speaker 1: Casey Campbell, Craig Russell, Aggie Nope, Alex Manzanowitz, b R. Bickford,
Speaker 1: Michael Jico, Joe Rucard, Henry Cooper, Glenn Brynn, Skiz, Sizzick, Boots, Century, Sir,
Speaker 1: Alvin Akarma, Michael O'Connor, Shane Hamilton, Eric Highgraf, Andreas Muller,
Speaker 1: Mark Mcleegat, Morris, Darren Williams, aod O Mahoney, Kai Clear,
Speaker 1: Brian Daniel Dahl, William Boodle, Ale Sair Montgomery, Jason Kaufman,
Speaker 1: David Bertrand, Hugh Bouchard, Paul Sibson, Shandon Baht, Susan White, Lutz, Backer,
Speaker 1: Monica Sheets, the ex Cast, Patrick Lohmeyer, Martin Johansson or
Speaker 1: Johansson Wake Up Heavy, and Gray Cat. Thank you to
Speaker 1: all of you for giving your hard earned money to
Speaker 1: the projection booth every month. I cannot thank you enough
Speaker 1: for participating and just really helping make the show go. Obviously,
Speaker 1: things are not getting cheaper these days, so I totally
Speaker 1: understand that it's tough to make ends meet for everybody.
Speaker 14: One of the oldest movie podcasts and still one of
Speaker 14: the best. Really appreciate the variety of subjects they cover.
Speaker 14: Has exposed me to films that I sometimes didn't know existed.
Speaker 14: Always germane and erudite guests. The recent discussion on the
Speaker 14: state of podcasting and the new documentary age of audio
Speaker 14: covering it was fascinating to listen to. I'm a big
Speaker 14: supporter of Mike White's side projects as well, over seven
Speaker 14: hundred and fifty episodes in a remarkable achievement.
Speaker 1: One thing that should help is that I dislike the
Speaker 1: stat that we're getting from our podcast company. So I
Speaker 1: ended up firing the person that provided the stats. Then
Speaker 1: I'm going to hire a new person that only gives
Speaker 1: me good statistics. I figure, if it's good enough for
Speaker 1: the federal government, it's good enough for me, so might
Speaker 1: as well work in that way of just getting good numbers.
Speaker 1: Maybe that'll bump the advertising. Speaking of advertising, I did
Speaker 1: want to shout out Scarecrow Video dot Com for becoming
Speaker 1: a sponsor of the Projection booth. That has been very helpful.
Speaker 1: Hopefully folks don't mind those intros at the beginning, in
Speaker 1: the middle, and then at the end of our shows
Speaker 1: as we tout scarecrows rent by mail service. It's almost
Speaker 1: like another service that used to exist that didn't cost
Speaker 1: nearly as much as it does now and that only
Speaker 1: deals in streaming. Ah Man, I love physical media and
Speaker 1: I'm glad that Scarecrow is still supporting it, and I'm
Speaker 1: so glad that so many companies are supporting it. I
Speaker 1: just wish it was a little easier to know what
Speaker 1: stuff is coming out when I still am using Diabolic
Speaker 1: DVD for that as well as DVD Beaver. I hope
Speaker 1: everybody within the sound of my voice is familiar with
Speaker 1: both of those sites. And then as far as what
Speaker 1: is streaming, where I've been using one called just Watch,
Speaker 1: which is just frustrating sometimes to see how little things
Speaker 1: that you actually want to see are streaming any place,
Speaker 1: or especially streaming without having to pay for stuff you know,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, if you want to see this movie, pay
Speaker 1: us another five dollars you're already paying for Amazon Netflix.
Speaker 1: I found out last night that HBO Max is starting
Speaker 1: to come down on password sharing, so there goes my
Speaker 1: access to that. But at least there's things still like
Speaker 1: Canopy and Overdrive and some of these other systems that
Speaker 1: will help when you have library cards. So if you
Speaker 1: don't have a library card and then you're in the US,
Speaker 1: highly recommend getting one of those, as long as Brad
Speaker 1: Pitt and Morgan Freeman don't come along and look at
Speaker 1: your view history, because that could be embarrassing.
Speaker 18: Just because if the fucker's got a library card doesn't
Speaker 18: make him Yoda.
Speaker 1: Speaking of, if people want to see what I'm watching,
Speaker 1: feel free to follow me over on Letterbox. I try
Speaker 1: to post everything that I'm watching over there. Though sometimes
Speaker 1: people think that the movies I'm watching are always for
Speaker 1: a show. They're not always necessarily for a show. Sometimes
Speaker 1: most of the time they are, But there's some stuff
Speaker 1: that I watch which will definitely never be part of
Speaker 1: a show. I'm thinking of the movie I watched last
Speaker 1: night called Primitive War. Holy Shit.
Speaker 4: That was.
Speaker 19: Another good podcast Ruined by politics, taking shots at Trumpers
Speaker 19: and red hats for no reason except it's the thing
Speaker 19: to do. Mike can't seem to help himself. Lord knows.
Speaker 19: No one will comment on the current administration. Don't know
Speaker 19: why it's so tough for film podcasts to not get political.
Speaker 20: I got the blue, but I don't bad. All I
Speaker 20: have to do is get to give, and then I
Speaker 20: feel just bad. I'm gonna die, but.
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Speaker 22: When I feel that long, you do you think outside
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Speaker 22: you're the best the rig I got, just got it
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