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Speaker 1: What is up Fellasicico's I am Dan for Valley, coming

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at you with another NBA trade deadline primer. We're on

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to the Philadelphia seventy six Ers, and we have a

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curve ball, no grant, no more. We're going to the

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bran taporek Well. He is a senior multi platform editor

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at Bleacher Report. He also covers the Sixers at every

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Place under the Sun at this point. But isn't it

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on SI and Liberty Ballers? You also write some stuff

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for Forbes? What else have I missed? There's got to

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be something else that you do it.

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Speaker 2: That's that's most of it. Yeah, we're doing some Lakers stuff.

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It's silver screening role. But not much going on the

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Lakers side, especially now that Jonathan Kaminga is maybe back

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in the Warriors rotation.

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Speaker 1: Him and the Warriors. He's destined to retire a Warrior.

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Speaker 2: It does feel that way.

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Speaker 1: I do respect you focusing on a small market team

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like the Lakers. I really think you branching out into

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that is great.

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Speaker 2: Just the mom and top team. Yeah, they used to be.

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Speaker 1: No Man, that Baxter Holmes article, I.

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Speaker 2: Haven't read it yet. I need to.

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Speaker 1: You need to, Yeah, you need it.

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Speaker 2: I saw the uproar about it today, but I have

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not actually done dived in.

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Speaker 1: So uh the sixers though, Let's begin with their trade

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deadline vitals, which I did not I have prepared to

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go up on the screen, but didn't upload it, so

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I'm just going to read it. Are they're about seven

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million dollars over the tax They can trade up to

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three first correct, twenty twenty eight from the Clippers, and

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then their own in twenty thirty and twenty thirty two?

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Did I miss one?

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Speaker 2: Trying to think I think they can trade, yes, because

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they're twenty six is headed to ok s right, top

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four protected, okay, and then top eight protected to Brooklyn

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in twenty twenty eight. So then.

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Speaker 1: And then it just becomes a second rounder after that, right, yeah,

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So they can trade those first those three first twenty

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eight from the Clippers and then twenty thirty and twenty

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thirty two. They have swap rights with the Clippers in

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twenty twenty nine, so that they wanted to offer a

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spicy swap, and then notable trade exceptions your favorite eight

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million dollars from that kJ Martin dump last year expires

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February sixth, so the trade deadline is February fifth, not

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a problem. Then they also have three point nine million

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from the Caleb Martin trade that Quentin Grimes. They have

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that left over that expires February fourth, So good for

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the that that was a heck of a Deal's.

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Speaker 2: Not the worst trade the Mavericks made last year.

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Speaker 1: Somehow, I'd like to start here. Seven million dollars over

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the tax. Are they going to duck it, mister Taporek.

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Speaker 2: I mean probably, The question is how, because is unless

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they're trading one of their big three VJ edgecumb is

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their fourth highest paid player at eleven point one million.

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say they

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have no interest in trading him. Quentin Grimes is at

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eight point seven, but he has veto rights on any

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trade involving him because he signed his qualifying offer. Kelleyube

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Junior is at eight point four and he's about to

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be a nonrestricted free agent no vito rights, so they

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could just outright salary type dump him. After that, it's

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Andre Drummond at five million, Jared McCain at four point two,

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Eric Gordon at two point three, so you know, they

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could like Drummond and Gordon combined is seven point three million.

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But we just got the report today and not a

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surprise for anyone who's been following his team all year,

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that they want to convert both Dominic Barlow and Jabarie Walker,

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both of whom are on two way deals. They want

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to can them to standard contracts at some point during

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the regular season. So even if they dump Drummond and Gordon,

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that gets them about three hundred thousand below the tax line.

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Once you convert either Barlow or Walker, unless it's at

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the very end of the season, that's pushing you over.

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So they've got to do something bigger than that, whether

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it's dumping Ubre as well trying to convince Grimes to

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buy into a trade and not veto it like that's

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that's my big question is, like I think they do

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try to do it, but I'm not quite sure what

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it looks like.

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Speaker 1: What is if let's say the mandate is they have

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to duck the tax, which I would almost guess that

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is the is the mandate, What is the most preferred

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way for you? Because you've already outlined that Drummond plus

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Gordon is not going to work. If we're assuming they're

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going to convert Barlow and Walker. Is it just dumping

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Kelly or Bridgejunior. Is it looking like will someone take

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on Jared McCain and then you move Drummond as well?

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What is like the what's the preferred course for you?

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Speaker 2: Definitely would not want to move McCain. He's been really

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bad this year, to be clear. But you're just selling

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low on him. You're selling at his absolute floor of

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his value. I mean we saw last year early in

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the year before he tore the meniscus, like, there is

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a player with fairly high upside in there. I think

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it's fair to wonder, you know, whether he fits in

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Philadelphia long term, Like there are questions about whether a

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Maxie McCain backcourt could hold up defensively, in particular because

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both guys that think are listed around six two sixty three.

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The addition of VJ. Edgecombe, Like, it's very clear now

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that Tyress, Maxim and Edgecomb are going to be the

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starting backcourt moving forward. So Jared McCain, if he stays

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in Philly long term, you're you know, you're topping out

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at like a high end reserve, which you know, I

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could understand if he wanted something great somewhere else, but

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like he's basically their only potential blue ish chip prospect

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that they can offer, So I you know, using selling

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him at the absolute lowest of his value to get

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out of the salary of the luxury tax would just

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be such a gross misuse of resources. But you know,

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this is the team that dumped kJ Martin last year

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and used two second round picks to do it, so

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I can't rule anything out. I think like a combination

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of dumping Drummond and then a Quinton Grimes for Tarry

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Easton deal would probably be the best case scenario, and

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I think that could get you far ish enough. I mean,

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maybe you have to get rid of Eric Gordon as

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well to get enough breathing room under the tax to

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then convert Barlow and Walker, but I think that would

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be interesting and like potentially help the team as well

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on the court. You can sell that as a potential.

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You know, we are very guard heavy. We like what

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Barlow and Walker have brought, but like Tari Easton in

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theory has higher upside than either of those guys, you know,

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restricted free agents this summer, so we'll see how that

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plays out. But we get a couple months look at him,

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we get his bird rights. You know, we aren't sure

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that we're going to be able to resign Quinton Grimes

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because he's an unrestricted free agent this summer. You know,

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Houston might want another guard, especially with Van Vleet out.

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Like I think it could actually make sense trading like

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a glut that Philly has in the back court and

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a glut that Houston has in the front court and

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basically swap those.

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Speaker 1: The thing about Houston, though, is I've kind of wondered

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if they are going to be a team that looks

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to get out of the tax as well, because they're

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even closer to ducking it than the Sixers. And then

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as you mentioned the cell with Quentin Grimes, I guess

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that would be tight. They're probably not gonna have the

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non taxpayer mL available, so you're going there kind of

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knowing that you either need to leave or you're not

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getting more than the non taxpayer mid level.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, based on what he's done this year,

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you know, I guess like Washington is gonna is projected

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to have a fair bit of space this offseason.

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Speaker 1: I believe they were a team I had thought of.

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I know they have Trey now and Trey Johnson is there,

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but his Grimes is sort of like a hybrid two three,

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and they have I would say they have wings to

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spare if they like Will Riley and if they think

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Cam Whitmore comes back and you have bilac U Labali.

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I wonder is there something like a Quinton Grimes for

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Justin Champagne type deal for the Sixers. That's someone who's

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super cost controlled. I think you'd probably have to include

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seconds or something because he's so cheap, and Rhymes is

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about Grimes probably that he is the better player, so

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maybe Washington won't care. That gets you out of the

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tax I think, while being able to convert Walker and Barlow,

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and then you just have this wing who's super cheap

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next season as well. I think he's making under three

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million bucks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm here for I like Champagne, that'd be great.

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Speaker 1: I love both the champagnees. Yes, Julian Champagne is out

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of control.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean yeah, But I'm ready to start

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both a Thunder and a Spurs podcast now. I'm by the.

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Speaker 1: Way, I think there's already a podcast called The Thunder

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Buddies podcast. I meant to message you when I.

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Speaker 2: Said, that's so rude. They stole an idea.

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Speaker 1: That or it's been around so long and we happen

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to stumbre on. On the Grimes front, what do you

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think they're ultimately gonna do with him? I know he

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has veto rights, which makes anything more difficult. But do

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you see a scenario which he's back with the team

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next season?

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Speaker 2: Certainly possible. I mean, they have his bird rights, you know.

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I think he changed the agents most importantly, So I

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think had he kept his old agent that was off

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asking for thirty million dollars a year this past offseason,

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probably not. I would hope that his new representation has

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a better grasp on his market value.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I think I was thinking about this today, like he

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might still try to go for like twenty to twenty

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five million, But I think every team is now going

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to point to Nikil Alexander Walker and say, like, look,

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if that guy's making the non tax MLI, are you

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going to perform Nikil Alexander Walker?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: I think that's probably his realistic range. So you know,

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that opens assuming he's willing to take the non tax

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EMILI that opens even more potential options for him otherwise,

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I mean Wizards, maybe Jazz, maybe Nets, maybe Bowls, maybe Lakers.

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I also don't know that he's going to get more

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than fifteen million dollars a year now. I think it's

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fair to wonder if the Sixers want to pay him

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that much money now that they have edge, Like they've

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got their three guys on Max Deal's Edgecombe on his

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rookie deal for three more years, have McCain as well.

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Like at a certain point, if you bring back Quentin Grimes,

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is Jared McCain gonna be able to get back on

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track next year like this year. I'm writing off entirely

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at this point, but I think it is in their

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best interest at some point to get him back on track,

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if only to rehab his value so he becomes a

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positive trade asset in the future that or.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to bring back Grimes, you have Edgecomb

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and you have Maxie need to be in the mode

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of we're just gonna move McCain for what we could

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get from it, because I don't I'd find it hard

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to believe that if you're running back like this same

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sort of backcourt carousel next season, I don't know what

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the pathway to him improving his value is because it's

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just like hitting more of his open jump shots.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sure, yeah, yeah, exactly, Like I think McCain would

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fill the role that Grimes is as kind of the

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off the bench gunner but can be in these three

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guard lineups. Obviously, Grimes is a much better defender than McCain,

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but McCain in theory, is a better shooter than Grimes

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or was a more consistent shooter than Grimes is. So yeah,

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I would say it's probably like, if I had to

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put a percentage on it, I think there is a

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higher chance he is not on the Sixers next year

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than he is on the Sixers. But I also don't

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Speaker 1: If if we think that his market is just going

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to be the non tax mm league. Doesn't it make

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it easy for them to trade him in the sense of, Okay,

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he loses his bird rights, but if you're going to

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a team that's not you're going to a team that's

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projected to be in the second apron or something, it

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just makes it easier for him to say, yeah, okay,

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I'll go here then, So that might benefit the Sixers

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a little bit. They are looking to get out of

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the tax, and maybe there's a team that's willing to

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give them draft equity or super I mean, you mentioned

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that he's doing to be a great scenario. Maybe there's

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a third team they could work in. Where are they

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going to get off Clin Capella or is it Clincapela?

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but that I guess opens up options. But Grime is

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is not someone you want to use as sort of

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your tax dumping magnet.

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Speaker 2: Right yeah, you oh my god, if you're doing it,

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if they're using assets to get off of him, that

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would just be like you might as well just commit

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your resignation letter. But you know, if you're this is

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this speaks to like the overall element that the Sixers

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faced the deadline, Like if you trade Grimes. Let's say

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you trade them and get like a very heavily protected

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first round pick, I think is probably the absolute best

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you can do. Or maybe you get a couple of

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second round picks for him, or you get another like

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Tar East and great. But you know, let's say you

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don't get anything of like tremendous value. You're hurting this team,

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especially if it's not a player in return, Like if

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you're getting a future left asset, great, but you're making

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this team worse. And I think you can objectively look

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at it, like Joel Embiid has been playing better as

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of late. Tyres Maxley was just named his first All

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Star starter. Edgecumb has been better than expected as a Ricky. Like,

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there are a lot of positives in Philadelphia right now.

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The East is wide open. With that said, I still

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think no one is really looking at this team like, oh,

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they're an actual threat to win the title this year, so.

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Speaker 1: They might be a threat to win the East, but.

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Speaker 2: I maybe, I mean yeah, like if nothing else, I

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think they're a threat to win one round of the

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playoffs and get knocked out in the second round as always,

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but maybe they go on a conference final run and

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maybe that's enough. But you know, so, like do you

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look at that and say, you know the Daryl Morrey

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theory of like, do we have five percent championship odds?

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are sellers. I don't. I haven't looked at what the

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sixers' odds are. I would be surprised if they are

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plus two thousand or better right now to win the title.

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Definitely not. No, they're plus six thousand, so I haven't close, right, So, like,

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do you become sellers in the hopes of maximizing the

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maxi edgecombe future? If so, like, how do you explain

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that to the players, And how do you explain that

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to the fans who went through this miserable season last year?

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And like the vibes are better this year because they

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haven't had to deal with as many injuries because some

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of these players are bouncing back. And yeah, it's a

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real tough choice I think for the front office, Like

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do you do you take the objective approach of like

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this team is not a championship contender or like a

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inner circle Championship contender is currently constructed. But it is

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a fun story, and like, what you know this? I

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think this is kind of the dilemma that a lot

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of teams face, like what's our ultimate goal? Like we

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say our ultimate goal is winning a championship, but like,

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do we care more about putting butts in seats?

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm sure a bunch of teams do, or

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at least the people running them. I'm sure a bunch

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of teams do.

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Speaker 2: Right, So, I mean, I think that speaks to like,

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that's probably why we haven't heard very much about the

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Sixers leading up to the deadline. I mean, you know,

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they're historically not very quiet. They tend to leak a

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lot to the media, and we've heard nothing about them

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this year.

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Speaker 1: You wrote about it. It is strange. Yeah, I mean,

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and I honestly the other thing, too, is you kind

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of alluded to this. I'm not saying they should go

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this route, but with Joelle Embiid starting to play better,

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Paul George has been a fine compliment this season. Couldn't

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there be some semblance of urgency to say, hey, it's

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not even just oh if we just move grimes to

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get out of the tax, maybe we get a pickback

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or whatever. But if we do something that in any

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way compromises this team, you don't get to just count

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on well, like we'll just run it, Like we'll figure

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it out next year, right, Like that's when we'll go

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all in, because you can't guarantee. I would say Embiid

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is sort of the poster player for this. You just

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can't even guarantee that Embide is gonna have the stretch

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that he's having right now. Again, like every game, every

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performance from Embiid is almost so precious just because of

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the state of his knee.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like Paul George is not getting any younger. You

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signed Paul George to that contract thinking those first two

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years were your window and that you would live with

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the consequences in the final two years of his deal.

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So yeah, I mean, I think there is It's like

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there are competing pressures working against them and they have

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to kind of choose one direction or the other. But

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there's not an obvious like this team should definitely be

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a buyer. I think one thing is clear. They should

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not be like aggressive buyers, Like I would not trade

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that twenty twenty eight Clippers.

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Speaker 1: Pick and not even for like Trey Murphy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, so that's the other thing.

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Speaker 1: It's like not even for kul Anthony Towns.

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Speaker 2: The Sixers salary structure is such that because they have

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three guys on Max Deal's edgecumb is their fourth highest

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paid player at eleven point one million, and then it's Grimes,

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Glubray Drummond. Like they how do you get to the

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money for Trey Murphy, Like he's been such a popular

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you know, everyone under the sun loves Trey Murphy, like

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every team, it's not just the Sixers, but like, you know,

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he comes up all the time. It's like, wow, if

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they could just get Trey Murphy, It's like, well, Trey

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Murphy's making what twenty twenty five I think, yeah, twenty

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five million dollars. Like you can't. You cannot get to

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that amount of money unless it's a four for one

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or unless one of mb'd Paul George's tyree smacks that

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you're going out. And like, obviously, if you can get

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Trey Murphy and trade Paul George, great, but how are

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you convincing either the Pelicans or another team to take

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on Paul George. Well, and you're getting Trey Murphy back.

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Speaker 1: So this does leave me to my question, which is

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I'm just asking questions here six or as foks Oh boy,

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would they consider moving Embiid or Paul George, because if

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you're gonna sell and what you're effectively not sell, but

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if you're gonna look to duck the tax, at that point,

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it's okay. You can't pretend this is about what we're

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just trying to maximize our flexibility and chances for next

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year because of what you just said about the Paul

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George contract, because of what we just alluded to with

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Joel Embiid, do they if you're so, if you're gonna sell,

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then just freaking sell. And so it's have Paul George

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and or Jewell Embiid done enough to where they could

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be moved without attaching something to them. And like, let's

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use the case of the Pelicans as an example. Could

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you do something where it's let's even say Trey Murphy's

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not involved, but if you if you're willing to put

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picks in to get him, have you progressed to the

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point where all right, well, if you're willing to also

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take back to Jontay Murray's deal because of him coming

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off that Achilles injury and that's just cheaper to work

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around moving forward. Is that an option that they could

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then explore. I don't It seems far fetched, But if

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their mandate is to duck the tax, I'm kind of

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just wondering if you can get off And I emotionally

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that component with Joe Embiid would be gutting even for me.

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And I don't like root or cover the Sixers exclusively

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and that so that would be darring. But like Paul

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George specifically, I just sort of wonder if your duckum

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attack have says he reached the point where, even if

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it's a small ass like, would I use Jarret McCain

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to get off of Paul George contract and duck the tax? Yeah?

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Like that's probably something I would do as a Sixers

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if I'm not looking at this season as something I'm

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trying to actually make the most.

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Speaker 2: Of, right, Yeah, I mean I think I would be

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surprised if they could get off either contract without attaching assets,

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especially if they're getting a player.

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Speaker 1: What if they call the Bulls or the Kings? Oh god,

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And is the same person answering the phone regardless of

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what they call, Because those teams seem to share the

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same brain wavelength.

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Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I mean then you run into the issue

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of roster spots, because like if you're trading Paul George,

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you know, the Bulls have a million expiring contracts, but

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you either have to loop in a third team or

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you know, you can't bring back all four guys and

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then also have roster spots to convert Barlow and Walker.

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And also, I mean, if.

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Speaker 1: You're taking back, couldn't the Bulls do it? Can they

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not do it with two? Is it Vooch? Plus what's

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the other big.

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Speaker 3: Expiring Zach Collinsum they can take their I assume they

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are way under the first apron so I'm sure they

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can take back more money than the sendout.

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Speaker 2: But right, yeah, I think that's still it might be close, actually,

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but I would be surprised if that alone. Good clear

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it's about the thirty nine point five and it's in

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the neighborhood. It could probably, I'm sure it could be

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a three for one in that case.

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Speaker 1: Three for one. And then if you find Gordon's on

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the minimum, so you find a team to so then

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it's you're really it's a three for two if.

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Speaker 2: In this trade right, yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't

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know why the Bulls want Paul George, but.

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Speaker 1: Sure it's the Bulls. I don't know, I'm sure. I

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also don't think they could do it. I think maybe

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if they were doing more of in a we're attaching

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picks to Paul George to try and get like just

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the Pelicans as an example. I haven't thought about this

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at Also, Pelicans fans, please don't get mad. But it's like, oh,

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Paul George, four, Paul George, all the picks, Jared McCain

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and you're getting back Trey Murphy and the jet like that.

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I think they could probably do something like that at

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this point. But it's also, again I'm naming the Pelicans.

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I don't think they're a team that would consider it.

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So it's it feels like at this point, which is

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wild to say, who do you think it would be

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easier to move Paul George with a shorter contract or

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Joel Embiid with the higher upside as a player.

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Speaker 2: It's a fair question. I've had the same question about Embiid,

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and I'm sure i'll write about it between now and

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the deadline of like now that he is rounding back

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into form, is this a cell high opportunity And I

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don't know if it is, Like I don't know if

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teams would be convinced that, like, oh yeah, this is

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a guy worth gambling on because he hasn't even started

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his contract extension, which is three years and projected to

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be one hundred and eighty eight million dollars. So you know,

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he's still got three years left at thirty five plus

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percent of the cap. Just given how cautious teams have

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been with say second Apron stuff, you know, I'm guessing

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both guys are still under I did wonder with the

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Jimmy Butler injury, who says no to Paul George for Jimmy.

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Speaker 1: Because Jimmy Paul George for Jimmy. Oh and so from

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the Sixers perspective, that's just we get out from the

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contract a year earlier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, and Beid loves Jimmy Butler. They

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played together for have a season, like he would go

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to war for that dude. So if Jimmy is back

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next year, you know you are punting on this year obviously,

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but yeah, you're you get out one year earlier and

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you get you know, Embiad's.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy coming back before twenty twenty seven would be the question.

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Speaker 2: It's a fair question, Yeah, I would imagine so like

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acl to me is slightly less serious than Achilles, and

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he's got you know, give or take nine months, So

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I would think he's back, if not at the start

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of the year, fairly early on. But ages concern obviously.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if it's the Warriors who would say no anyway,

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just because they have their books online right now to

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00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,839
where that could change over the offes. But like Steph,

473
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,640
Jimmy and Draymond, assuming he picks up his player, rog

474
00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:09,039
all come off the books after next year.

475
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Jimmy like fits the ethos of that

476
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,480
team more than they expected him to. Not to say

477
00:25:17,519 --> 00:25:22,720
that Paul George wouldn't, but you know, I think from

478
00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:26,039
the Warriors side, yeah, like that's that is the counter

479
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,519
argument to it is that you are cutting into the

480
00:25:28,559 --> 00:25:32,319
twenty twenty seventh space that you are cherishing, but you're

481
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,599
turning a player who was a fifty four million dollars

482
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,200
dead cap hit for the rest of the season into

483
00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:41,000
Paul George, who you did pursue in assigning trade before

484
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:41,799
the Sixers.

485
00:25:41,519 --> 00:25:46,039
Speaker 1: Got him, right, So I not that. Wow, that'd be fascinating.

486
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't think either side does it ultimately,

487
00:25:51,599 --> 00:25:54,440
But that was a challenge trade that came to mind

488
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,400
in the wake of his injury. But overall, I mean,

489
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,400
I think it's a very fair question of like, should

490
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,240
they know if they can find a team that is

491
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:06,960
willing to take on Embiid, Like kat is one that

492
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,920
I would not do it for because it's only one

493
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,000
year less on his deal.

494
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,599
Speaker 1: Well what if it's what if it's what if he's

495
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,400
going to decline that player option? There could be another

496
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,240
team that's gonna pay him sixty plus mints.

497
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,599
Speaker 2: All right, by all means, So yeah, go ahead, Katy.

498
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: Would you take back a longer Like what if Toronto

499
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,359
comes calling and I think that Yaka Purtle deal expires

500
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,920
in twenty one, sixteen or something like that, hundred years

501
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,680
from now, right, right? But like, is that something you

502
00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:37,000
consider of just working He's still when he's healthy, he's

503
00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:40,079
not Embiid. He's a useful player, but that contract just

504
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,039
goes on forever.

505
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,599
Speaker 2: It's awful. Yeah, And it would be like because I

506
00:26:45,599 --> 00:26:46,759
mean they see.

507
00:26:46,759 --> 00:26:49,319
Speaker 1: Quickly next season, it's insane.

508
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, they don't need quickly, and that's

509
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,480
the other guy that they're dangling, So it would be

510
00:26:55,559 --> 00:26:57,400
like Barrett and Purtle.

511
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: I don't even think that gets you there is because

512
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,119
Toronto's is gonna want to duck attacks itself. So you

513
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,200
need another team.

514
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Baji going somewhere else.

515
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I think that's a no brainer there.

516
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,279
What you do as a basis though, like you're taking

517
00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:13,559
back Purdl and barg just to get off the MB contract.

518
00:27:13,559 --> 00:27:19,519
That feels underwhelming. Barret's a very useful player, especially for

519
00:27:19,559 --> 00:27:20,559
a wing star team.

520
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, Amas, but I'd be lying if I said I

521
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:25,559
wouldn't consider it.

522
00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: Wow.

523
00:27:27,799 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 2: I mean you know, like I am so happy that

524
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,039
Joel Embiid is playing as well as he is right now.

525
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,119
We've just seen this story how many times before, Like.

526
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: I just feel like the vibes of doing it, like

527
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,279
for that reason to where these aren't players you would

528
00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:48,920
be chasing independently where it's Peardle and Barrett, the vibes

529
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,119
for like karmically speaking, you can't. You can't do that.

530
00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, And also, like you know, I there's there's not

531
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,519
urgency in the sense of like let's say they could

532
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,920
dump em be to the Bulls for Vooch and Collins

533
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,200
and whoever, like just clear his money from the books.

534
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,759
After this year, you still got Paul George and Tyrese

535
00:28:09,839 --> 00:28:13,119
Maxi on max contracts. So like, unless you are able

536
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,960
to clear off both Embiid and Paul George, you're still

537
00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:22,200
not going to have significant cap space this offseason, especially

538
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,240
if you're gonna have to re sign Grimes or Ubra.

539
00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:27,960
And it's not like this free agent class is teaming

540
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,039
with superstars anyway, so I think.

541
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,519
Speaker 1: And it's not like free agency matters anymore at the brain.

542
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you have cap space, you sign Paul

543
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,720
George two hundred million dollars contracts and you hate it.

544
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,039
So you know, I think you it almost behooves them

545
00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:48,920
to just see see what happens this year. And then

546
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,279
you know, twenty twenty six, twenty seven, you are one

547
00:28:51,359 --> 00:28:53,960
year closer to the expiration of both of those contracts.

548
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,240
Twenty seven to twenty eight. Paul George is not an

549
00:28:56,319 --> 00:29:00,640
expiring deal. Like I don't know that those contracts ever

550
00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:05,680
have significant value or significant positive value, but you know,

551
00:29:05,839 --> 00:29:09,160
two years from now, who knows, like a fifty six

552
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,440
point six million dollar expiring contract, especially with the cap

553
00:29:12,519 --> 00:29:14,880
going up as quickly as it is, Like, maybe we

554
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,920
will start to see some more underwater contracts the teams

555
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,720
are looking to get off of long term and like

556
00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:26,079
at that point, you know, a peral contract is you

557
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:29,160
don't have sixteen years left on it. You're only down

558
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,079
to fourteen at that point, so it might be slightly

559
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,200
more tolerable from that perspective as well.

560
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: Suffice it to say, it sounds like we'd both be

561
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,160
shocked if either Paul George or Joel Embiid was traded.

562
00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it'd be interesting like that. That could

563
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,400
certainly explain the radio silence from the sixer side, although.

564
00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:53,039
Speaker 1: You can't, I'm sorry, you can't just dumping in bead

565
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,799
something was gonna I don't, like aliens are gonna abduct

566
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,400
or something.

567
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,119
Speaker 2: I can't well, I mean, yeah, it speaks to like

568
00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:04,160
I think George and Embiid are separate in this conversation,

569
00:30:04,319 --> 00:30:07,559
Like if you dump George, I think it would be

570
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,440
more understandable. But MB, especially with him playing as well

571
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,480
as he has lately, and like the two man action

572
00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:17,359
with him in Maxie and the attention that he draws

573
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,440
from defenders really does help the rest of the team,

574
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:22,839
like if you're trading that guy, if you if you

575
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,599
do this Toronto deal MB for RJ Barrett and Pertle,

576
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,319
Perle with his back injury is just like hasn't played

577
00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:31,640
it all this year. That is unquestionably making this team worse.

578
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,559
And I think that is you know, I don't think

579
00:30:35,599 --> 00:30:38,720
you necessarily have to camera about the fan perspective, like

580
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:42,160
if you you know, when they inevitably do the luxuries

581
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,880
tacks dump and fans get really mad, I don't think

582
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,400
they're gonna care all that much. But like, I think

583
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,160
you do have to worry about it from the player's side,

584
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,359
like how do you sell this to Tyrese, Maxie and

585
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,960
VJ Edgecum In particular, by making that trade, you are

586
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,920
telling them you do not believe in them. You do

587
00:30:58,039 --> 00:31:01,640
not believe in this team as constructed. And I think

588
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,359
that's a tough message to send to your you know

589
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,519
who you hope to be your two star players moving forward.

590
00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: So let's get into actual needs, targets for realistic targets

591
00:31:14,319 --> 00:31:16,839
for them. I have is their biggest need for me

592
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:20,240
was just more wings, Yes, more actual wing depth. And

593
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:23,480
as justin Edwards Truther, I will note that that hurts

594
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,960
me to say, yes, what do you think comes after that?

595
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,519
Because I feel like that's the odd that's the low

596
00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:30,680
hanging fruit one. Is there anything else that brings to

597
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,200
mind for you?

598
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, depending on what they do with Grimes,

599
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,400
another guard, especially with McGain struggling like he has this year,

600
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,720
I don't know if he will be reliable at any

601
00:31:40,759 --> 00:31:43,799
point this season. You know, there are only other options?

602
00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:47,920
Are thirty? Is Kyle Lowry? Forty? Now is the officially

603
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,440
passed forty But no March twenty fifth, We're still still

604
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,279
on the right side of forty book Kyle Lowry and

605
00:31:54,319 --> 00:31:59,920
I But yes, another guard I think, especially if they

606
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,440
Grimes would be a big one. And then I mean,

607
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,359
depending on if Drummond is part of the salary dump.

608
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,319
You know, Adam Bono would be their only other true center.

609
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,920
You know, they've they've done some small ball stuff, but

610
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,279
if they dump Drummond, they think a fairly inexpensive center

611
00:32:18,359 --> 00:32:19,599
would make sense for them as well.

612
00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:23,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were that. Yeah, that's a good point. So

613
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,160
do any names spring to mind for you? I know

614
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,319
I've shared my I still have my top three big

615
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:31,960
board for them. It changed after a bit Initially I

616
00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:35,160
put aggressive targets because they have that Clippers pick. Then

617
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,920
it was just like, it's not they're gonna duct. I

618
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,000
think they're gonna duct tax. But maybe they'll do it,

619
00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:41,200
you know, in two stages where they shave a little

620
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,519
bit money off now and then the rest on draft

621
00:32:43,599 --> 00:32:46,480
night or something. But I have all my top three

622
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,960
targets for them were all making I think they're all

623
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,039
under like three million bucks under.

624
00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: Sounds right for sure. Yeah. And I think the only

625
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,839
like concrete rumor that we've gotten so far, and I

626
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,279
think this was from Jake Fisher, was that the Sixers

627
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:06,319
and Grizzlies held some preliminary talks. Not in reference to

628
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,680
John Morant, but he's I think he said, like around

629
00:33:08,839 --> 00:33:10,799
the fringes or around the edges of the roster.

630
00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: Jack Landale, Baby's that was my name.

631
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I immediately as soon as that came out, went

632
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,519
to their salary sheet and started like no, no, no,

633
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:24,519
you know, Contavious Callwellpelp too expensive, Santi Aldama two perspective,

634
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:28,799
Brandon Clark even him, probably too expensive. A twelve point

635
00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:32,880
five million. Yeah, I mean it's either hammer joint contrad

636
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,160
but I think Jack Landale would be my guess as well.

637
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:42,480
I mean, I don't think you can get Jay Huff

638
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,559
from the Pacers because they.

639
00:33:44,599 --> 00:33:46,799
Speaker 1: He's got my big board for them there. I go

640
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,039
back and forth because I think it's become pretty clear

641
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:52,400
that Jay Huff, despite what people said, coming in as

642
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,240
not the long term option at center. They are sure,

643
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,599
but unless you can guarantee they're going to get one

644
00:33:57,599 --> 00:34:00,400
in the draft or over the offseason something how, they

645
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,000
don't have like other good options to say. So, you

646
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:06,839
can't just give up on Jay Huff because the Sixers

647
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,320
throw X amount of sections at you.

648
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: I don't think, right, Yeah exactly. I mean you need

649
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,000
a center.

650
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: I've seen some Siakham for a few minutes and I'm intrigued.

651
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:18,519
So maybe that's maybe they just latch onto that and decide, yeah,

652
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:19,800
let's roll forward with that.

653
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:24,159
Speaker 2: Maybe there's a Drummond for Jay Huff swap in their future.

654
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:27,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would I mean I would like that for

655
00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:27,639
the Sixers.

656
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, Trim's with two point seven million.

657
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: It's all about all about tame and money.

658
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: You know, I really care about Josh Harris's back account.

659
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:44,679
I want him to really fund the Washington Commander's retirement fund.

660
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hear the more names.

661
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 2: If you got him, I don't know if he's obtainable

662
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,679
or what it would cost to obtain him, but Zeek

663
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,440
Bay in New Orleans.

664
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish he shot it a little bit better, but.

665
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just been a nice, quiet bounce back year

666
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,159
for him. Only six point one this year, six point

667
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:07,599
four million next year, so having him under contract on

668
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,239
a fairly affordable price for the next two years. I

669
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,800
you know, again, like, I don't know how you get

670
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,000
to that salary point unless it's ideally if you're trading

671
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,199
for him, you were not trading a wing out, so

672
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:26,679
you know you're not doing like Sadik Bay for Kelly Ubre.

673
00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:30,280
Could you do Sadik Bay for Quentin Grimes? Would Quentin

674
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,639
Grimes sign off on that knowing that like de Jante

675
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,440
Murray is there, Jordan Poole is there, but they don't

676
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,960
seem to really believe in him.

677
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: Are you sure because they gave up an expiring contract, one.

678
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,519
Speaker 2: Pretty valuable one as it turned out.

679
00:35:47,559 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: Uh.

680
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, They've got Jeremiah Fears as well, so a lot

681
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,000
of that backcourt could be crowded. But I think that

682
00:35:55,039 --> 00:35:57,480
would be if you could do a Grimes for Sadiq Bay,

683
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,760
I'd be pretty into that as well.

684
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: What about so what about Kean ellis a little smaller,

685
00:36:04,519 --> 00:36:06,199
pretty super cheap fits everywhere.

686
00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 2: Yep.

687
00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:09,679
Speaker 1: The one of the well I mentioned, I mentioned Justin

688
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,840
Champagne already, so I need to mention him again. The

689
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,119
other one I thought of, he's been pre injured this

690
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,480
year and there have to be other teams almost assuredly involved.

691
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:22,039
But I really like the idea of Karent Shannon Jr.

692
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,199
And so if you were able to get like, would

693
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,159
you consider giving up McCain if it meant getting him.

694
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:30,760
If they decide they're out on Rob Dillingham and McCain

695
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,199
gives them a better Oh, he's better than Calmly, he's

696
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,360
better than bones if we're looking for another ball handler

697
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,440
in our playoff.

698
00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:42,559
Speaker 2: Rotation Jessey, How okay? So Shannon's under contract for three

699
00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:44,239
more years as well. I mean that would be My

700
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,840
concern is, like, especially when you've got three guys on

701
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,400
Max steels, you just need guys on cheap long term

702
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,840
contracts is as much as humanly possible. So I wouldn't

703
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,519
want to dump McCain for someone on expiring for sure.

704
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:07,400
But Shannon, he and Shannon have the same length. Yeah,

705
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:10,119
I don't know. I still have hope for McCain. Like

706
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,559
I don't know, Shannon hasn't necessarily shown the same upside

707
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:19,480
as McCain did last year. I know McCain has really

708
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:23,239
struggled this year, but like I just am still clinging desperately.

709
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: To Shannon has not been that good either. I had

710
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,119
him ticketed for just a mega breakown. I know he's

711
00:37:28,119 --> 00:37:31,360
dealing with the ankle stuff on off, but I expect

712
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,519
a lot more from him.

713
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like McCain's overcome you know, yeah, the meniscus last

714
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,800
year and then towards the UCL and his thumb right

715
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,760
before training camp this year. So I like there's a

716
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,920
chance that he comes back next year and is you know,

717
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:46,719
right back to what he was as a rookie, and

718
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,119
like he just needed a year to reset basically. So

719
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,199
I would be less into that one. I think I'm

720
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,599
really not trying to sell low on Jerem McCain if

721
00:37:56,639 --> 00:37:57,400
I can avoid.

722
00:37:57,159 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: It, fair I don't. I mean you probably, I don't

723
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,280
know if they would even ask her if you're willing

724
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,480
to give up some second round of compensation. Maybe it's

725
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,599
something different, But as just a wing in Philly. Terren

726
00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:09,760
Shannon would be interesting.

727
00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:12,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about I'm.

728
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: Just gonna keep naming Grizzlies Vince Williams Junior, little smaller

729
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,920
but defends up a lot.

730
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,159
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yeah, I mean I didn't. I assumed if

731
00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:25,039
they are, you know, moving off of John in particular,

732
00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:28,039
that like a lot of those cheap young guys like

733
00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:31,679
Gigi Jackson was another one that could be of interest.

734
00:38:31,679 --> 00:38:34,079
Scottie Pippen Jr. Would be of interest, but like all

735
00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:35,840
these guys are on, I.

736
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: Didn't what is going on with Scottie Pippen Junior and

737
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,519
Tigers just haven't played this season? Him and tyger Rome.

738
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:43,119
I need to know.

739
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's one of those like injuries of

740
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:53,480
the timeline keeps getting pushed back and back and back. Yeah,

741
00:38:53,519 --> 00:38:55,400
they're saving them for after the Josh trade.

742
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: That or they're like I there was that. I think

743
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,639
it was Zach Lowe said that, and if it was

744
00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:05,960
fascinating that did the Grizzlies always intend to like be

745
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:09,480
a lottery team this year because they renegotiate and extend

746
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:12,679
Jared Jackson Junior and then he immediately has surgery and

747
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,559
like we haven't heard anything on Ty Jerome or Scottie

748
00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:18,199
Pippen junior. We know, like Zach Edy, they knew like

749
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,880
he was dealing with a bunch of health stuff as

750
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,679
well coming into the year, and so I kind of

751
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,280
just they traded Desmond Bane. Of course, I kind of

752
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,840
like put a pin in that. I was like, yeah,

753
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,360
you know, they tried to spin it as they were

754
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,920
just reorienting, not like going through some type of gap year.

755
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,719
But now I'm kind of wondering if the writing.

756
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,039
Speaker 2: Was just always on the wall, I could see it.

757
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 1: This is tough. I mean, like there are a ton

758
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,039
of players that you can name that would make sense

759
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:44,440
for the Sixers, but they need to be like what

760
00:39:44,559 --> 00:39:47,000
about Shima kay Luke has had a pretty good season

761
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,079
in Utah, and if Bryce sends the boss popping, maybe

762
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:52,400
they're open to getting rid of him. And you could

763
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,119
like Utah has the flexibility to I don't know if

764
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:58,440
Kelly Ubra plus whatever for because I don't know why

765
00:39:58,519 --> 00:40:01,039
Utah wants Kelly Ubray, especially if they're not trying to win,

766
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:03,760
so maybe there's a third team involved, but they have

767
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,800
the flexibility I'm saying to get the Sixers out of

768
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,920
the tax while sending back Shaima kaya Luke.

769
00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, I mean I think that would be

770
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,320
a priority for sure. But this is this is where

771
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,559
you run into the same problem. It's like you have

772
00:40:18,639 --> 00:40:22,679
to almost go shopping like at the absolute max in

773
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,199
the ten to fifteen million dollar range, Like you can't.

774
00:40:26,639 --> 00:40:28,039
Speaker 1: I wasn't even thinking that high.

775
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean probably not because they're probably looking

776
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,280
at trim salary no matter who they're guse.

777
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: Even if it was so if you were, I guess

778
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,559
what you could do. So if you trade Kelly lubridg

779
00:40:40,599 --> 00:40:43,239
Junior and Andre Drummonds, what does that get you to

780
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,480
like thirteen million?

781
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirteen point four.

782
00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: You could take a player back making like six million.

783
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,920
If if that player happens to be a wing who

784
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,800
were you're still kind of wing light, But I guess

785
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,679
at least they you're not wing I mean, Sadik Bay

786
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,599
kind of works for that. Six point one is right

787
00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:03,800
in that range. Yeah, you're Can I interest you in

788
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:04,760
a Zaia Williams?

789
00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:10,679
Speaker 2: Oh no, thank you?

790
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: Now this would also require separate team. But if Cleveland

791
00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:16,079
was really looking to cut costs, Dean Wade would be fascinating.

792
00:41:16,199 --> 00:41:19,679
Speaker 2: That would be Yeah, I'd be more open to that.

793
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: And like they're just saying, hey, I mean, but they

794
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,000
kind of play different positions, but they really believe in

795
00:41:25,039 --> 00:41:26,119
Jalen Tyson that much.

796
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:26,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

797
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, okay, here's an interesting thing. They mentioned the Grizzlies.

798
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:34,960
Would you put the clippers pick on the table if

799
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,519
it got you out of the tax and no and

800
00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:41,039
you got back Jalen wells, oh.

801
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought you were going in a different direction there.

802
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: I would you say, John Moran, I'm not.

803
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: No, no, no. I thought some sort of like Paul George

804
00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:51,320
Jaron Jackson Jr.

805
00:41:52,199 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: Like I didn't really thought about that, but.

806
00:41:56,599 --> 00:42:01,079
Speaker 2: Mhm, I would be very reluctant to that clippers pick,

807
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,639
especially until we get word on like what the findings

808
00:42:06,639 --> 00:42:10,960
on the aspiration scandal. I I mean, I don't think,

809
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,960
especially given the state of the world currently, I think

810
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,679
nothing will happen, and you know, a billionaire will go unpunished,

811
00:42:19,679 --> 00:42:24,199
as this tradition these days. But on the off chance

812
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,880
that Adam Silver does come down fairly hard on the clippers,

813
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,239
like that only increases the perceived value of that pick.

814
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,519
You also just don't know, like the clippers are such

815
00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:39,519
a blank slate after twenty twenty seven, you know, there's

816
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,760
there's certainly like upside there because they will have so

817
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,840
much money to spend and maybe like maybe they get

818
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,559
Giannis and Jokichen, you know, or off to the races,

819
00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:52,639
but maybe they strike out on everyone and are building

820
00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:56,239
around you know, Kawhi and James Harden in their late

821
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,800
thirties at that point, and like there's that pick is

822
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:05,679
unprotected like that, it needs to be a pretty big

823
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,760
upgrade to move off of that pick.

824
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: So would you be willing to give up one of

825
00:43:11,639 --> 00:43:14,679
the sixers of his own distant first? Then for something similar?

826
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,760
What if it's like Kelly Ubre and Andre Drummond for

827
00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:21,199
you get to pick, Maybe you don't get to pick,

828
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,559
but you're getting back Jalen Wells plus one of Cam

829
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:28,480
Spencer or Vince Williams.

830
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: I don't think I would do that.

831
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: I would do that in a heartbeat. I mean, I'm

832
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,519
Cam Spencer pilled, but I don't even guaranteed. I just

833
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:41,400
think Jalen Wells, I guess if you don't trust him

834
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,199
to defend bigger wings, that's fine, but Jalen Wells is

835
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,760
cheap for what another two years?

836
00:43:47,079 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I mean I do like Cam Spencer too,

837
00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:58,079
I think I guess my concern is just like I

838
00:43:58,079 --> 00:44:00,800
don't know how much better that makes this Sixers team.

839
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,679
I don't think that that type of move like transforms

840
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:06,719
them into a contender all of a sudden. So, like,

841
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:12,480
what's what's the upside to giving away, especially if it's

842
00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:15,960
a distant first like that's one of your main tradeable chips,

843
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,440
you know, I think you need to the Sixers need

844
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,719
to like balance thinking of the now, but also thinking

845
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,519
of the post Embeid and post Paul George, Like what's

846
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:31,679
the future in twenty twenty eight, twenty twenty nine, when

847
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,000
Maxi and Edge come coming off of their respective contracts,

848
00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:38,079
and like ideally we are resigning them both and will

849
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:41,119
continue to build around them into the twenty thirties. Like

850
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,760
at that point you're gonna want assets because like you know,

851
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,800
there there is a pocket of time where you might

852
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,480
be able to get a third star next to those two,

853
00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:54,440
once George is off the books and then beads on

854
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,000
an expiring deal. So I think I'm unless it is

855
00:44:58,039 --> 00:45:01,440
for like a massive upgrade, I would not be inclined

856
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,880
to trade any first round picks this year just to

857
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,440
preserve that flexibility moving forward?

858
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,599
Speaker 1: What is there a player then that you would be

859
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,119
willing And we already mentioned that Trey Murphy is just

860
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,159
that wouldn't even count because of his salary structure. Is

861
00:45:17,199 --> 00:45:20,039
there a player that then fits all the boxes the

862
00:45:20,039 --> 00:45:23,119
Sixers would need to check that you So you're assuming

863
00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:25,199
they're probably trying to get out of tacks, but they're

864
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:27,559
also trying to upgrade the roster. Is there a player

865
00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:29,920
that you would be willing to give up pick or

866
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:30,360
picks for?

867
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,519
Speaker 2: I mean, Michael Porter Junior is in the rumor mill.

868
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,119
Speaker 1: But again, how are you getting to that salary you're

869
00:45:38,159 --> 00:45:39,639
thinking Paul in that scenario?

870
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:45,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is one fewer year on his deal.

871
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,159
Speaker 1: In Michael give up the Clippers or a first round

872
00:45:48,159 --> 00:45:49,760
pick for that? I don't think I would.

873
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't.

874
00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:53,519
Speaker 1: I wouldn't like it this year.

875
00:45:53,559 --> 00:45:56,199
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean you're paying in part, you're paying

876
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,000
to get off of Paul George.

877
00:45:58,639 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: Okay, fair, But.

878
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't know that that makes them Again,

879
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,000
like I don't know, Paul George is Swapping Paul George

880
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,800
for Michael Porter does not make them a contender anymore

881
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,280
so than they are right now, maybe a little bit

882
00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:17,880
like Michael Porter is, you know, a higher volume scorer,

883
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,800
at least in Brooklyn this year. But we also seen

884
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,199
Michael Porter in you know, in the number three role.

885
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,440
It's like what he was playing for his entire career

886
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:30,840
prior to now, and still very good, but like you know,

887
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,559
you're expecting somewhere in the seventeen to eighteen point range,

888
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:36,280
not twenty six. You know, he is a really good

889
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,320
three point shooter. So was Paul George before he came

890
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,480
to Philadelphia. But then he came to Philadelphia and.

891
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,639
Speaker 1: It's almost just like, well, I mean he's been Michael

892
00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:50,280
Porter Junior's been sneaky durable for like three or four

893
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,280
years now, and Paul George has not. So there's that

894
00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:54,599
upgrade consider But.

895
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:59,039
Speaker 2: He's much younger, like you could feasibly talk to. I mean,

896
00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:02,000
he's not like on the same developmental curve obviously as

897
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:05,079
Maximy an edgecumb but like he's closer. He's kind of

898
00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:07,920
more of a like bridge between eras than Paul George.

899
00:47:09,199 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that'd be interesting. I don't think if

900
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,559
I'm the Sixers, I'm not giving up a pick for that, though,

901
00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:14,880
I don't think I get like I'm not better enough

902
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,559
after that? Right, do you have any other names or

903
00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:22,159
anything else you wanted to point out about the Sixers

904
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:23,559
entering the trade deadline.

905
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: The only other thing I'd flag is, so they're gonna

906
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,559
convert Walker in Barlow at some point, but there's a

907
00:47:33,639 --> 00:47:36,840
limit to how many games they can play both of

908
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,280
those guys. Although you know Barlow has been starting for them,

909
00:47:39,679 --> 00:47:41,400
Jabari Walker has been coming off the bench for them

910
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,400
every game, but it's like playing every game. Keith Smith

911
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,480
of spot Track point this out earlier today. I've been

912
00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:49,280
right about a couple times since, like mid December. They

913
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,400
are down to two games left where they can have

914
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:58,440
Walker and Barlow active until they fill their fifteenth roster spot.

915
00:47:58,599 --> 00:48:01,840
They can do so by converting one of them, but

916
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,960
I would imagine they are hoping not to do that

917
00:48:04,039 --> 00:48:07,000
until after the trade deadline to just maintain their optionality,

918
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:08,760
like in case they do need to do a two

919
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,480
for one or three for two whatever, So they can

920
00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:14,840
also do that by signing a ten day. So all

921
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,679
that is a very long winded way of saying, I'm

922
00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:21,920
guessing they sign a ten day on Saturday, would be

923
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,400
my guest, because if they do it, then that covers

924
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,119
six games, so that gets them right into the trade deadline.

925
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:31,280
Jabari Walker only has eight games left on the two

926
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,000
way deal as well. He's played forty two. You can

927
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,119
only play fifty before they have to decide whether to

928
00:48:35,159 --> 00:48:38,719
convert you or let you go. So I'm guessing he

929
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,320
gets one game off between now and the trade deadline

930
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,639
and then they convert him either the day like you

931
00:48:45,639 --> 00:48:48,440
know trade deadlines at what three or four pm, and

932
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,679
then they convert him. They do have a game against

933
00:48:50,679 --> 00:48:52,519
the Lakers that night, so I think it's going to

934
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:56,599
happen fairly quickly. But yeah, that's that is the sneaky

935
00:48:56,639 --> 00:48:59,320
thing I am keeping track of. And you know, it

936
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,760
brings me back to the first question you ask me of, like,

937
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,719
why haven't they done this yet? What they've been You've

938
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,079
been able to sign a ten day contract since January fifth.

939
00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:13,400
You knew this clock was sticking down, ticking down, ticking down.

940
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,360
We're now at two games left, it's January twenty. First,

941
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,920
why haven't they sent a ten day contract? It makes

942
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me think it's all about the luxury tax, baby, because

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it's one hundred and thirty thousand dollars give or take

944
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for every ten day contract you hand out, So that

945
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puts them we're now going to be seven point one

946
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billion dollars over. That's just another one hundred and thirty

947
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thousand dollars they need to account for. So they really

948
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took this thing to the deadline.

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Speaker 1: Which almost makes you think that they are trying to

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do it in one shot, because if you were willing

951
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to do it in two stages, you don't have to

952
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concern yourself as much with the one hundred and thirty

953
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thousand dollars that you're tacking on for the ten day contract. So,

954
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and I guess when you look at their salary structures,

955
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unless you're taking back a cheaper player who has multiple

956
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,559
years left on this deal, which I guess is the goal.

957
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But it's not like you can move Kelly Ubridge junior

958
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on draft night if you so. Like they're running into

959
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that problem because of the expirings. But yeah, that's that's

960
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gonna be fascinating to watch. They're a team that's I

961
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don't expect them to do anything nuclear. I'm sort of

962
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just sitting here waiting. Okay, the right of passage is

963
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the annual sixer salary.

964
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Speaker 2: Don't because that's right.

965
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Speaker 1: When they're coming. That's just what's what I want to know.

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Speaker 2: Historically at about two thirty pm on February fifth would

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be my guess. They like to sneak it in while

968
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no one's paying attention. Like every all the other trade

969
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fireworks going off, and then it's like, oh, Sixers traded

970
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Kelly Aubridgejunior and gave up two second round picks. It's like,

971
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what when did they get back a banner? It's ahead

972
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and then they duck the luxuries ax for the fifth

973
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trade year. Congratulations, mister Taporak.

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Speaker 1: Are you able to tell our audience where they can

975
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find you in all the great work that you do?

976
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Speaker 2: Yes, you can find me on Blue Sky at B

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T O P O R E K all Sixer stuff.

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Now at on S side you can find me fan

979
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sited Forbes Sports silver Screen role. I think that is

980
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it as of now. Oh and then b R occasionally

981
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where both you and I work and I'm gonna strong

982
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arm you into more big NBA projects here this year.

983
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Speaker 1: Are you going to be on the I do live

984
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grades for Bleacher Report on deadline Day? Are you going

985
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to be Are we working in tandem this year on

986
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that or they decided that I'm so good and flawless

987
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that I'm not going to need an editor to go

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through it this year.

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Speaker 2: Because that is correct.

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Speaker 3: You are.

991
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Speaker 2: You're on your own best friends. I am our NFL

992
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editor is going on paternity leave starting next week, so

993
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I will be an NFL editor for the next three

994
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months up until the NFL Draft, so I'll be front

995
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and center for the A. J. Brown trade when it happens.

996
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Speaker 1: I'm definitely giving the Sixers an A plus when they trade.

997
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The Clippers picked a duck attacks.

998
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm signing back on just to scrub

999
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that grade trains it to a triple F.

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Speaker 1: Until next time, and as always, please remember to rate,

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review or subscribe, and shout out to the one, the Only,

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mister Frank Pila Keina