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Quick reminder, we've got unc Tarhel basketball tomorrow, 10 00:00:36,039 --> 00:00:40,200 so my show will be cut short on the radio. 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,039 I am still playing with the idea of maybe sending 12 00:00:43,039 --> 00:00:46,240 out a podcast just on the podcast side of things 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,600 tomorrow as well. But we'll see how it goes. We'll 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,640 see how I feel, because I was battling some crud 15 00:00:54,119 --> 00:00:59,799 over the last forty eight hours or so. Yeah, so, oh, 16 00:01:00,159 --> 00:01:04,319 let's can we talk about green cards? Have you heard 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:10,079 this story of this Palestinian activist that got picked up 18 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,439 by immigration? I too, actually saw somebody get picked up 19 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:14,200 by immigration. 20 00:01:14,359 --> 00:01:16,719 Speaker 2: Happened right outside. 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:21,799 Speaker 1: Of my house, right outside my house. Yeah, there was 22 00:01:21,799 --> 00:01:29,040 apparently some sort of an operation and they were staking 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,079 somebody out and the car was going right down our 24 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,439 side street and they got surrounded. He tried to flee. 25 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:42,480 This was on Saturday, he tried to flee, or Sunday, Saturday, Yes, Saturday, 26 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,879 he tried to flee. He jumped the sidewalk, tried to 27 00:01:45,879 --> 00:01:50,599 cut through somebody's yard, and one of the agents then 28 00:01:50,799 --> 00:01:56,040 rammed him right there next to the house. And yeah, 29 00:01:56,159 --> 00:01:58,840 that's crazy, and he took off running. He ran through 30 00:01:58,879 --> 00:02:02,640 some neighbor yard, freaked out their little kids that were 31 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,519 in the basement playing, and then they took them away 32 00:02:07,439 --> 00:02:12,080 and they left the car. So yeah, they didn't even 33 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,479 search it. They didn't even search the car. But yeah, 34 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,759 kind of surreal to see all of that unfold. But 35 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,479 it's and Christy and I talked about it, like we 36 00:02:22,759 --> 00:02:30,400 saw one moment in a series of events, right that 37 00:02:30,479 --> 00:02:34,240 we have no insight on. We have no idea who 38 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,439 the person was, right, we have no idea how they 39 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:42,759 got onto the radar of the law enforcement. So whatever happened, 40 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,360 like they obviously devoted a lot of manpower, had like 41 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,879 six different vehicles staked out all over the neighborhood and stuff. 42 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:57,120 So and yeah, so it's like it was just it 43 00:02:57,159 --> 00:03:00,439 was surreal to see it happen. But again, like we 44 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:06,840 saw the one final moment in that historical record, we 45 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,400 don't know what all. I have no idea who the 46 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,759 guy was, no idea what he was wanted for or whatever. 47 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,680 But the fact that they didn't search the car, I 48 00:03:14,759 --> 00:03:17,560 kind of feel like it probably was a deportation. 49 00:03:17,159 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: Type of situation. 50 00:03:18,719 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: But again, don't know what he did to get on 51 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,039 their radar where they would devote those kinds of resources. 52 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,280 Now I do have a pretty good idea with this guy, 53 00:03:26,439 --> 00:03:33,879 Mahmoud Khalil. Yeah, he is a lawful permanent resident alien, okay, 54 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:40,759 and he got picked up and now is apparently being 55 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:47,199 held in Louisiana by immigration. He's a green card holder, 56 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,680 That's what that means. A lawful permanent resident alien green 57 00:03:51,719 --> 00:03:56,800 card holder who was reportedly born in Syria but claims 58 00:03:57,199 --> 00:04:01,960 Palestinian ancestry. He has been a prominent figure in the 59 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:08,599 pro Hamas agitation at Columbia University as late as as 60 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,319 recently as last week, when he reportedly posed as a 61 00:04:12,439 --> 00:04:16,279 mediator between the university and the protesters. 62 00:04:16,759 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: These are the. 63 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: Ones that occupied the building at Barnard College, all right, 64 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:26,399 I mentioned this last week and nine people got arrested. 65 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,600 He was not one of them, but the problems at 66 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:36,439 Columbia University, he has been front and center. He has 67 00:04:36,519 --> 00:04:42,959 been a sort of de facto spokesperson for this group 68 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:51,160 called see You Apartheid divest or Columbia University Apartheid divest 69 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:59,800 SEEUAD or quad. And when you read what this organization celebrates, 70 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,959 when you see what they cheer for, they're communists. 71 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: And I don't. 72 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm not just saying that to you know, throw the 73 00:05:07,399 --> 00:05:09,360 word around like ooh, comus this and that, but no, 74 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,759 like literally they're communists. Like here's one of their statements. 75 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,519 Vladimir Lenin said that the working class has no weapon 76 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,800 but organization meeting that only through ideological consolidation and organized 77 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,639 action can the conception of collective power. 78 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: Yes, Colombia has. 79 00:05:27,959 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: A oh oh sorry, can the masses overcome imperialism? Sorry 80 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,079 I skip the line there. Our movement has much to 81 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:40,560 learn from his conception of collective power. Yes, Colombia has 82 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,240 a multi billion dollar endowment. They have proven they are 83 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,639 willing to unleash the state on us in the most 84 00:05:45,759 --> 00:05:50,040 grotesque ways, but their use of police signifies their weakness, 85 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,480 namely that they are unable to squash our movement through 86 00:05:54,920 --> 00:06:03,639 peaceful means. Then, and they quote Mao Zedong, who reminds us, quote, 87 00:06:03,759 --> 00:06:07,560 however active the leading group may be, its activity will 88 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,040 amount to fruitless effort by a handful of people unless 89 00:06:11,079 --> 00:06:14,800 combined with the activity of the masses. On the other hand, 90 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,920 if the masses alone are active without a strong leading 91 00:06:17,959 --> 00:06:22,120 group to organize their activity properly, such activity cannot be 92 00:06:22,199 --> 00:06:25,519 sustained for long, or carried forward in the right direction, 93 00:06:26,079 --> 00:06:27,879 or raised to a high level end. 94 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: Quote right, So. 95 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:35,319 Speaker 1: They're literally quoting Lenin and Mao. That's who this organization is. 96 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:43,199 They are also self identified as Westerners fighting for the 97 00:06:43,319 --> 00:06:52,879 total eradication of Western civilization, which kind of seems problematic. Right, So, 98 00:06:53,199 --> 00:06:58,160 why would you let this person into our country? Why 99 00:06:58,199 --> 00:07:01,199 would you let somebody with these kinds of views into 100 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,800 our country? David Harsani, who is a senior writer at 101 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:11,319 The Washington Examiner, He says, this is the reason for 102 00:07:11,399 --> 00:07:17,279 green cards. Green cards exist specifically so we can vet 103 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:22,279 people right to determine if they are worthy of citizenship. 104 00:07:22,879 --> 00:07:26,120 Do we want you in our country? And if you 105 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,800 come into our country and you say that you want 106 00:07:28,839 --> 00:07:33,199 to eradicate our country, I'm going to suggest that that's 107 00:07:33,319 --> 00:07:38,600 probably not a great candidate for citizenship. You probably shouldn't 108 00:07:38,639 --> 00:07:42,160 be allowed to stay if all you're doing is fomenting 109 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:47,600 communist demonstrations and Islamic jihad, because that's what he's been doing. 110 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,839 Speaker 2: That's what this guy has been doing, Mackmood Khalil. 111 00:07:52,199 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: And the way that the Left is framing his arrest 112 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,199 is that and processing for deportation is that, Oh, he 113 00:08:00,279 --> 00:08:03,360 was simply speaking out and he's being thrown in jail, 114 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,519 or he's being deported for free speech. No, he's being 115 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,600 deported because he is here with a green card. He 116 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,160 was here on a student visa that has now apparently 117 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,600 turned into a green card, I guess. And because he's 118 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:22,240 done with school, he graduated. So why are you still 119 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:28,920 leading this organization or acting as its spokesperson going around 120 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:34,879 threatening Jews on Columbia's campus and calling for the Zionists 121 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,639 to be you know, murdered in stuff like you are 122 00:08:38,879 --> 00:08:43,960 fomenting discord. You are like if you are a Green 123 00:08:44,039 --> 00:08:48,720 card holder, I don't think you get the same protest rights. 124 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,000 I don't I think you're visiting. I think you're a 125 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,440 visitor to the country. And if you are doing things 126 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,519 to destabilize the society. I think that country has the 127 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,559 right to throw you out. That does not seem that 128 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,559 does not seem to be I don't know a stretch. 129 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,600 I understand, like, there are people making these arguments that 130 00:09:09,279 --> 00:09:14,440 you like. For example, what's his name, Greenberg? 131 00:09:14,519 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: I think is his name? 132 00:09:16,279 --> 00:09:19,639 Speaker 1: He writes a simple justice. Yeah, I think it's anyway, 133 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,200 He's like one of the least pleasant aspects of being 134 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,639 principled is that you have to defend people whose ideology 135 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,200 you find repugnant or idiotic. But that is the test 136 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,679 of principle, he says. This guy Khalil has been convicted 137 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,240 of no crime for his actions. It may be that 138 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,080 he has engaged in criminal conduct. If so, then he 139 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,840 should be arrested and prosecuted for what he did, and 140 00:09:43,879 --> 00:09:47,360 if it can be proven, convicted. That's how it works here, 141 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,840 or at least how it's supposed to work here. He 142 00:09:51,159 --> 00:09:53,639 was not here on a student visa, but was a 143 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:58,120 legal permanent resident. He's married to an American citizen. Not 144 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,240 only does he enjoy the same for Amendment rights as 145 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,480 an American citizen, but he enjoys the right to do 146 00:10:04,759 --> 00:10:09,080 process as well. And so he is being deprived of 147 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,960 this according. 148 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,279 Speaker 2: To the left and the media. 149 00:10:14,399 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: But I repeat myself, he is being deprived of due 150 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:24,240 process because he has been leading the tantifada at Columbia University. 151 00:10:26,279 --> 00:10:29,039 I feel like though, that there's a pretty specific thing 152 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:34,799 in the law that if you are promoting foreign terrorist 153 00:10:34,879 --> 00:10:38,759 organizations like you get to they can deport you. That's 154 00:10:38,799 --> 00:10:41,759 pretty yeah, that's in the law. And HAMAS is a 155 00:10:41,799 --> 00:10:46,679 foreign terrorist organization designated as such. It seems pretty I 156 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:47,960 don't know due processing. 157 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 3: You know. 158 00:10:48,639 --> 00:10:51,159 Speaker 1: Stories are powerful. 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Hello, Keith, Welcome 178 00:11:54,039 --> 00:11:54,480 to the show. 179 00:11:55,519 --> 00:11:56,639 Speaker 3: Hey Keen, how's it going by? 180 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:56,879 Speaker 1: Hey? 181 00:11:56,879 --> 00:11:57,639 Speaker 2: All right? What's up? 182 00:11:59,159 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 3: I just wanted to talk about these the blue haired 183 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,039 alphabet Army destroy elon musk cars and car dealerships. Yeah, 184 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:11,440 I don't think they understand property ownership. Clearly. If someone 185 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:16,679 destroys must property, he has someone called the insurance company 186 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,639 and then he's covered at the worst for him, it's 187 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:24,720 just an inconvenience. Another issue is most cargalerships are independently 188 00:12:24,759 --> 00:12:27,360 owned some poor guy that's out there trying to do 189 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,120 business and make it make away in the world being 190 00:12:30,159 --> 00:12:33,519 a you know, independent car dealer. It wakes up one 191 00:12:33,519 --> 00:12:36,639 morning and half of his stock is destroyed, and you 192 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,080 know that has nothing to do with Elon Musk. 193 00:12:39,639 --> 00:12:42,639 Speaker 1: Right, well, but I mean you're attempting to apply some 194 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,120 level of rationality to the behavior. And you know, we 195 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,879 saw during the summer of fiery but mostly peaceful protesting. 196 00:12:52,879 --> 00:12:58,080 They don't care about private property and the destruction of it, right. 197 00:12:58,679 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: Right, I understand that. 198 00:12:59,799 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's true. He doesn't. 199 00:13:02,159 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and that's I mean, think of the 200 00:13:04,279 --> 00:13:08,639 guy that owns the local dealership, a franchise owner, and 201 00:13:08,879 --> 00:13:10,879 you know, well, I guess that's his fault because he, 202 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,279 you know, thought Elon Musk's products were so good, you know, 203 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,279 five years ago and whenever it was when he bought 204 00:13:17,279 --> 00:13:20,039 the franchise, and now you know, fast forward five years 205 00:13:20,039 --> 00:13:24,039 and now what he gets his his business attacked because 206 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,799 these these leftists don't like Elon all of a sudden. 207 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 3: What it's ridiculous. 208 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:33,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's terrorism. I mean that's what it is. 209 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,879 It's the same thing that the Eco Health Alliance people did. 210 00:13:35,919 --> 00:13:38,960 It's the same stuff that the uh the BLM people did. 211 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,039 It's this is this is part of their playbook. It 212 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,480 always it always has been. Leftists always rely on violence 213 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:51,679 like this. So Keith, I appreciate the call. Start, thank you. Yeah, 214 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,159 it's it's the These are the foot soldiers, right. They 215 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,600 want people to be afraid to cross them because they 216 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,159 cannot convince you based on their arguments. 217 00:14:04,519 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: Right. 218 00:14:04,759 --> 00:14:07,759 Speaker 1: This is why you know they become I say all 219 00:14:07,799 --> 00:14:11,080 the time unchallenged ideas are easy to hold. They have 220 00:14:11,159 --> 00:14:15,759 become intellectually flabby. They cannot defend their ideas. And so 221 00:14:15,879 --> 00:14:19,240 when they cannot persuade you to do the thing that 222 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:24,000 they want you to do, they will attempt to what 223 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,639 censor you, They will attempt to shame you, embarrass you, 224 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:33,279 make your life difficult, and then threaten you with violence. 225 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,639 Like that's this is the playbook. So we've seen enough 226 00:14:38,679 --> 00:14:42,200 examples of it. That's what they've been doing at Columbia University. 227 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,039 And when Donald Trump came in, he was like, this 228 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,399 is stopping. And by the way, when you are here 229 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,039 on a green card or you're here on a student visa, 230 00:14:52,759 --> 00:14:58,960 you don't get to foment the overthrow of our government. 231 00:14:59,039 --> 00:15:03,480 You don't get to endorse terrorist activities. You don't get 232 00:15:03,519 --> 00:15:08,600 to endorse or support a terrorist organization. And that's what 233 00:15:08,759 --> 00:15:14,399 this guy up in New York has done. That's what 234 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:22,720 he did. Khalil Makamud Camille Khalil, rather, he supported Hamas, 235 00:15:23,639 --> 00:15:28,879 a foreign terrorist organization designated as such by the government, also. 236 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: Has Bala, so it's very clear. 237 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: He's also acted as a spokesperson for this organization, Columbia 238 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:45,720 University Apartheid and Divest CUAD. So you've made the case 239 00:15:45,799 --> 00:15:47,600 against yourself very clear. 240 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: So this is the associated press. 241 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,679 Speaker 1: Khalil and other student leaders of Columbia University Apartheid Divest 242 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,720 have rejected claims of anti Semitism, saying they are part 243 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:04,440 of a broader anti war movement that also includes Jewish 244 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,679 students and groups, but the Protest Coalition at times this 245 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,159 is the ap By the way, the Protest Coalition has 246 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,759 also voiced support for leaders of Hamas and Hezbollah, another 247 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,200 Islamist organization designated by the US as a terrorist group. 248 00:16:21,039 --> 00:16:26,440 The US Education Department on Monday warned sixty colleges, including 249 00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:30,039 Harvard and Cornell, that they could lose federal money if 250 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:35,240 they failed to uphold civil rights laws against anti semitism 251 00:16:35,639 --> 00:16:41,799 and ensure uninterrupted access to campus facilities and education opportunities. 252 00:16:42,039 --> 00:16:46,679 The Trump administration is already pulling four hundred million dollars 253 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:51,480 from Columbia. A group of Columbia faculty members expressed concern 254 00:16:51,879 --> 00:16:56,120 that Khalil's detention was intended to suppress free speech by 255 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:01,440 students and staff who are not US citizens. No, it's 256 00:17:01,679 --> 00:17:04,680 you don't get to come into the country as a 257 00:17:04,799 --> 00:17:12,359 guest and then advocate for terrorist organizations. It's literally in 258 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:19,799 the law terrorist activities inadmissible. You're not allowed to be 259 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:24,880 here if you are endorsing or espousing terrorist activity, or 260 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:29,799 persuading others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity, or support 261 00:17:29,839 --> 00:17:34,000 a terrorist organization. Any alien who is described in that 262 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:40,480 paragraph is deportable because we don't want you in our country. 263 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,480 If you're going to be supporting terrorist organizations, we don't 264 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,359 want you. It's very simple, all right. If you're listening 265 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:47,920 to this show, you know I try to keep up 266 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,720 with all sorts of current events, and I know you 267 00:17:49,759 --> 00:17:52,240 do too, And you've probably heard me say get your 268 00:17:52,279 --> 00:17:54,000 news from multiple sources. 269 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: Why. 270 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,839 Speaker 1: Well, because it's how you detect media bias, which is 271 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,000 why I've been so impressed with ground News. 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Subscribe through that 284 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,160 link and you'll get fifteen percent off any subscription. I 285 00:18:39,279 --> 00:18:42,640 use the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. 286 00:18:42,839 --> 00:18:45,599 Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it 287 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,759 also supports ground News as they make the media landscape 288 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:55,759 more transparent. Mach Mood Khalil a graduate of Columbia University, 289 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:03,880 where he also acted as the spokesperson for CUAD Columbia 290 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:10,240 University Apartheid divest. These are the ones that ran all 291 00:19:10,319 --> 00:19:14,200 of the protests at Columbia University, Barnard College. All of 292 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:22,720 it right, and they are social media messaging is pretty awful, 293 00:19:23,279 --> 00:19:30,359 pretty awful and supportive of terrorism, talking about if we 294 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,359 want to achieve liberation in America, we must be prepared 295 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:39,160 to make the same sacrifices. What sacrifices is he talking 296 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,759 about or is cuad talking about? Well, they were talking about. 297 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,599 At least two hundred of our comrades in Bangladesh have 298 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,319 been martyred in the past two weeks. 299 00:19:52,039 --> 00:19:53,279 Speaker 2: And they do use the. 300 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: Word comrade all the time because they are communists. That's 301 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:03,000 why they keep using the word comrade. So they're calling 302 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:06,640 for bloodshed for the martyrdom of Americans and such in 303 00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:12,039 order to overthrow the Western civilization. This is what they 304 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:19,079 explicitly say. We are Westerners fighting for the total eradication 305 00:20:19,279 --> 00:20:25,279 of Western civilization. Okay, so they are here to destabilize. 306 00:20:25,319 --> 00:20:29,039 He is here to destabilize, that is the point. But 307 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,519 he should be allowed to say it. He has freedom 308 00:20:31,559 --> 00:20:34,000 of speech, does he? 309 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 2: But does he? 310 00:20:37,519 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: What's the point of running a green card system or 311 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:48,480 a student visa system? Right? If you can, if anybody 312 00:20:48,519 --> 00:20:51,119 can get it, and anybody can, then once they arrive here, 313 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,559 can engage in whatever they want to engage in. Because 314 00:20:53,599 --> 00:21:00,880 he is engaging in illegal behavior, deportable behavior. Now there's 315 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,440 one rite up Ilia Sohman who says a standard response 316 00:21:08,599 --> 00:21:12,559 about whether this should be unconstitutional from a policy perspective 317 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,039 is that even if non citizens have a right to 318 00:21:16,079 --> 00:21:19,799 free speech. They don't have a constitutional right to stay 319 00:21:19,799 --> 00:21:23,640 in the United States. Thus deporting them for their speech 320 00:21:23,759 --> 00:21:28,079 doesn't violate the Constitution. But in virtually every other context, 321 00:21:28,079 --> 00:21:31,720 it is clear that depriving people of a right as 322 00:21:31,799 --> 00:21:35,640 punishment for their speech violates the First Amendment, even if 323 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,680 the right they lose does not itself have constitutional status. 324 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 2: In other words, it's sort. 325 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: Of like daisy chaining if you will, like, Okay, so 326 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,279 we're not going to say that, you can't say that. 327 00:21:47,319 --> 00:21:49,720 We're just going to deport you if you do say that. 328 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,559 And see, so it's we created this little half step 329 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,440 that we can get to, and then that's not a 330 00:21:57,599 --> 00:22:02,039 violation of your constitutional rights do you have as a foreigner? 331 00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:09,440 Do you have all constitutional rights as American citizens? So 332 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:17,359 it remains unclear whether Khalil engaged in either criminal activities 333 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,640 or activities that violated eleven eighty two A three. That's 334 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,119 the section of this law. And I actually have actually 335 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,039 I have it here. I will tell you what it is. 336 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:36,839 Terrorist activities. Any alien who endorses or espouses terrorist activity, 337 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,359 or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or 338 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:48,480 support a terrorist organization, and he does he has that 339 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:51,279 he's done all of that, and so that's deportable. 340 00:22:53,319 --> 00:22:54,839 Speaker 2: But I guess the. 341 00:22:54,839 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: Left really wants this guy to be their poster child 342 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,160 for free. I guess like this is the guy you're 343 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,279 going to rally around. 344 00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:04,039 Speaker 2: They already are. 345 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:13,519 Speaker 1: They're rallying around him as a House Judiciary Democrats. Yeah, 346 00:23:13,599 --> 00:23:16,519 they said, just to recap. This is what they said 347 00:23:16,559 --> 00:23:19,720 on Twitter. These are this are sorry the Senate Judiciary 348 00:23:20,279 --> 00:23:24,359 Democrat members of the Senate Judiciary Committee. So think Adam 349 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:33,559 Schiff four brains, just to recap macmood Khalil exercises his 350 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:37,039 First Amendment rights. But Donald Trump and Marco Rubio didn't 351 00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:40,200 degree with what he said. That's not a matter of 352 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,599 agreeing with what he said. It's a matter of fomenting 353 00:23:43,759 --> 00:23:51,799 violence and supporting designated terrorist organizations. That's what they have done. 354 00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:57,119 And if you can't see that the United States has 355 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,839 an interest in preventing people from other countries coming into 356 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,880 America and trying to overthrow and destabilize the society here, 357 00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:11,000 then what is the point of having any rules whatsoever? 358 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:17,119 There should be none, right, no rules for anybody coming in, 359 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,680 no screening, why bother Just let everybody come. 360 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: Just open a. 361 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: Oh well, I guess they actually did promote that kind 362 00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:25,960 of a policy. 363 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:26,599 Speaker 2: That is true. 364 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: Mark Goldfetter on Twitter responded. He is the director of 365 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,079 the National Jewish Advocacy Center. He says the Immigration and 366 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,880 Nationality Act contains a number of activities for which a 367 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:45,000 person can be deemed ineligible based on security and related grounds. 368 00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:48,799 There are nine grounds related to terrorism. Most of the 369 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,359 nine are not controversial at all, people engaging in terrorism, etc. 370 00:24:54,079 --> 00:24:58,519 The one that has the left all indignant is ground 371 00:24:58,599 --> 00:25:04,279 number seven. Any alien who endorses or espouses terrorist activity, 372 00:25:04,519 --> 00:25:07,920 or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity, or 373 00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:13,240 supports a terrorist organization. You say, Democrats, you are concerned 374 00:25:13,519 --> 00:25:15,960 that this ground would violate the First Amendment rights of 375 00:25:16,039 --> 00:25:20,720 somebody like Mackmood Khalil. Let's examine that first. 376 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,839 Speaker 2: Let us be clear. You're not arguing that he has 377 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,720 not endorsed or supported terror. 378 00:25:26,039 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: I say this because if only you expressed any concern 379 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,039 about the people he has been terrifying over a year, right, 380 00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:35,640 maybe I would have some sympathy for your crocodile tears now, 381 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,400 But you didn't, so I don't. 382 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,519 Speaker 2: So the question becomes. 383 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: Are his first American First Amendment rights the exact same 384 00:25:43,839 --> 00:25:48,079 as an American citizen's First Amendment rights. The answer may 385 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,880 surprise you, not exactly. 386 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,559 Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter. At least. 387 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: Some First Amendment protections do apply differently to aliens than 388 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,240 they do to citizens, and there's law about it. Citizens 389 00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:06,079 United for example, quote, the government routinely places special restrictions 390 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,000 on the speech rights of students, prisoners, members of the 391 00:26:10,079 --> 00:26:15,039 armed forces, foreigners, and its own employees. When such restrictions 392 00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:19,720 are justified by a legitimate governmental interest, they do not 393 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:25,400 necessarily raise constitutional problems. And so what would be a 394 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:31,960 legitimate governmental interest here? National security? 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Tomorrow tar Heel Basketball 427 00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:27,640 will pre empt this show at one point thirty, so 428 00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:32,400 we will do half the show tomorrow, a mere ninety minutes, 429 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,200 and then the. 430 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 2: Tar Heels will take over the airwaves here. 431 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,759 Speaker 1: And then Brett Winterble will do an hour and a 432 00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:40,480 half on the back end of his show, so the 433 00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:43,200 first three hours or so of his program will be 434 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,000 preempted also, and then if the tar Hills win, same 435 00:28:46,039 --> 00:28:49,279 thing on Thursday. If they lose, then we're back on 436 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:55,079 full shows on Thursday. So Andrew McCarthy over at National 437 00:28:55,119 --> 00:28:59,359 Review did a write up on this Machmoud Khalil story. 438 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:05,039 This has now become the cause to celeb The Left 439 00:29:05,119 --> 00:29:10,799 needs a martyr here and this hamas hole a mouthpiece, 440 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,680 is going to be their guy. I don't know why 441 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,039 they insist on picking the worst people to be their spokespeople, 442 00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:24,640 but it's what they do. Makmood Khalil a lawful permanent 443 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:31,759 resident alien right. Reportedly born in Syria but claims Palestinian ancestry, 444 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,640 Khalil has been a prominent figure in the pro Hamas 445 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:41,319 agitation at Columbia. The familiar array of Islamist organizations and 446 00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:45,559 their media and Democratic Party allies is rallying to Khalil's defense. 447 00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:52,440 The agitator's apologists contend that his arrest and the government's 448 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,720 plan to deport him are illegal. A lawyer for Khalil 449 00:29:57,079 --> 00:30:00,480 has filed a suit in Manhattan Federal Court the Southern 450 00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,759 District of New York because, of course, to try to 451 00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:09,200 block deportation and compel his release. Koalill's allies are concerned 452 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,160 about reports that although he was arrested in Manhattan, where 453 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,000 he was living, the Trump Homeland Security Department had already 454 00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:20,160 whisked him to a holding facility in Louisiana, perhaps hoping 455 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,480 to deport him before the courts can intervene, or at 456 00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:26,519 least to try to litigate any lawsuits in a district 457 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,279 that the Trump administration hopes will be a little bit 458 00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:32,519 more friendlier to the administration than the Southern District of 459 00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:39,799 New York. Now today, the judge Jesse Furman ordered the 460 00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:44,079 Trump administration not to remove Khalil from the United States, 461 00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:48,319 at least until the Court can weigh in. This was 462 00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:52,079 done to preserve jurisdiction over Khalil in the Southern District 463 00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:55,640 of New York, even if the administration moves him elsewhere. 464 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:02,240 So then McCarthy looks at the argum mens he notes 465 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,640 Provision twelve twenty seven. In general, it says this, In general, 466 00:31:09,079 --> 00:31:13,200 an alien whose presence or activities in the United States 467 00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:16,799 the Secretary of State has reasonable ground to believe would 468 00:31:16,839 --> 00:31:21,079 have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United 469 00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:26,079 States is deportable. Okay, So if the Secretary of State 470 00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:31,480 has reasonable grounds to believe that there are serious, potential 471 00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:37,720 serious adverse foreign policy consequences for a person's presence in America, 472 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,240 then the Secretary of State can have them deported. And 473 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:44,519 this is why you're probably hearing Marco Rubio's name thrown 474 00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:49,200 around in this story, because that's the route that apparently 475 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,640 they're looking to take. 476 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 2: That's one route. 477 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the executive branch 478 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,960 has broad discretion when it comes to national security judge 479 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,000 about which aliens may be admitted and which should be 480 00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:09,559 expelled from the United States. Nevertheless, because this section says 481 00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:13,200 secretary of State has to have reasonable grounds to believe 482 00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:19,079 their presence would cause serious consequences, the lawyers for this guy, Khalil, 483 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,200 are going to argue that the court has authority to 484 00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:26,440 review whether a Secretary Rubio's judgment is or is not 485 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:32,079 quote unquote reasonable. So that's one section twelve twenty seven, 486 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,559 or there's the other section eleven eighty two, which I 487 00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:41,759 already read from, which seems like that's a more solid argument. 488 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: To be made. So we shall see, we shall see. 489 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,519 Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you 490 00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:52,559 so much for listening. 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