Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
Speaker 2: a newer entertainment property, and for this week of February seventeenth,
Speaker 2: we're continuing with a Man on the Inside. This was
Speaker 2: season one, episode four, so the halfway point, the curious
Speaker 2: incident of the dog in the painting class.
Speaker 1: In which there was in fact a painting class, and
Speaker 1: there was in fact a dog, though I stuffed.
Speaker 2: A little stuffed dog, and Charles is making friends in
Speaker 2: a way that is probably not helpful to his mission.
Speaker 1: Still it was charming. It was very charming. What it
Speaker 1: didn't have is a lot of parenting because no Emily.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we liked we liked having Emily.
Speaker 1: A little just completely apropos of nothing interlude of parenting
Speaker 1: in the middle of this show. That's about something else, right,
Speaker 1: But you got bad kids.
Speaker 2: Know, usually they at least talk on the phone. Did
Speaker 2: they even talk to the phone?
Speaker 1: Talked on the phone? I think she was not involved whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you.
Speaker 1: Know his friend's son is moving to Singapore?
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 1: It's not going to have time to come by and
Speaker 1: he could say, yeah, my daughter has been getting in
Speaker 1: touch with me every day, but today, Nope, she's not
Speaker 1: calling children. Such a disappointment.
Speaker 2: I miss here.
Speaker 1: I had a lot to do last week. So maybe
Speaker 1: she just wanted to stay home. Maybe her boys were
Speaker 1: having some sort of crisis and we'll hear about it
Speaker 1: next week. But this was just about the case and
Speaker 1: being a spy in his level of spycraft, which is
Speaker 1: I mean, he was getting a lot of information but
Speaker 1: also getting attached to people, which apparently you can't do,
Speaker 1: which I feel like this detective is not taking good
Speaker 1: care of her. Operative just go in and spy on
Speaker 1: people don't make friends with them, and if you do,
Speaker 1: do it in such a way that you can then
Speaker 1: betray them. Yeah, and expect that there's going to be
Speaker 1: no problem with that whatsoever, no fallout from that. There
Speaker 1: are probably some seniors that you would be able to
Speaker 1: do that with, but not this guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it did seem that by the end of
Speaker 2: this episode, DEDI had kind of decided she didn't need
Speaker 2: to be suspecting, you know, that whatever she thought was
Speaker 2: fishy about Charles she kind of got over.
Speaker 1: So that is we think the significance of the putting
Speaker 1: his file back in the file cabinet, that was what
Speaker 1: I thought, it seems.
Speaker 2: Did you have another interpretation?
Speaker 1: As the Siren goes by, Kate got away again again?
Speaker 1: Havether theft down at the home? All right? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I figured that must be what it was that
Speaker 1: we hear his file was out, so she had expected him,
Speaker 1: suspected him, and now she's putting it back in. But
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily see what would have made or suspicious
Speaker 1: in the first place, and if she was suspicious, what
Speaker 1: would have caused her to not be suspicious?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: So? Okay, well, I think at least she has less
Speaker 1: lines than the guy unlost, but yeah, the filing cabinet
Speaker 1: in a meaningful way.
Speaker 2: Stephanie, Yeah, I guess I just thought it was sort
Speaker 2: of like she was keeping an eye on him, and
Speaker 2: then when she saw that he was, you know, integrating
Speaker 2: pretty pretty well, then she she decided, Okay, he's he's.
Speaker 1: Interpretation and probably the intended one. I can't think of
Speaker 1: what else it would mean, So.
Speaker 2: Sure we did. You know? The dog of the title
Speaker 2: is the stuff dog that has been fairly prominent in
Speaker 2: almost every So you never noticed he always has it
Speaker 2: by him.
Speaker 1: Terrible spy, Have we noticed this? Have we mentioned this?
Speaker 2: No, whenever he was sitting by at his in his
Speaker 2: like armchair, he always had it next to him.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad to know that because then the story
Speaker 1: about it being his wife and reminding him of her
Speaker 1: as legitimate and not just to cover at the last minute.
Speaker 1: Holy cow, what is going on in my neighborhood? Do
Speaker 1: you hear all these sirens going by?
Speaker 2: More sirens?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Two out of four of my family members are
Speaker 1: not home, so that makes me nervous. Whenever I hear
Speaker 1: a siren, something is going on. Nobody's set their terrible
Speaker 1: father on fire or something, right, built a senior citizen
Speaker 1: out of jewels. So I wonder if this, uh, this
Speaker 1: lady who was the volunteer and had met his wife,
Speaker 1: if she's gonna be trouble. H.
Speaker 2: Who was that actress? By the way, good question, because
Speaker 2: I felt familiar, she looked familiar, and I didn't.
Speaker 1: Let's look on IMDb.
Speaker 2: Jama Jama Williamson. I have no see, Yes, that's that's
Speaker 2: her name. Oh, she was on The Good Place. She
Speaker 2: was on eight episodes of The Good Place.
Speaker 1: Okay, who did she play?
Speaker 2: Val? Oh? She was on eleven episodes of Parks and
Speaker 2: rec as Wendy Haverford.
Speaker 1: Oh was she Tom's? Oh? Yeah, she was Tom's. Tom
Speaker 1: married him to be able to stay in medical school, right,
Speaker 1: and then she dated Ron for a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's how we know her from those to Mike, sure.
Speaker 1: Jason has passed since last right, swin that show?
Speaker 2: Since we watched either of those things. But we knew
Speaker 2: she looked familiar.
Speaker 1: Yes, there we go, And like trouble watching any show
Speaker 1: by a showrunner you've seen before is just like always a.
Speaker 2: Wasn't that right in the show?
Speaker 1: They were on this show? Who were they? I don't
Speaker 1: remember these people at the end when he took off
Speaker 1: all his spy stuff and left it in his room. Yes,
Speaker 1: isn't there a thief at this place that goes into
Speaker 1: people's room.
Speaker 2: Yes, hopefully he locked his door.
Speaker 1: I need not to maybe hide it. Perhaps there's a
Speaker 1: safe somewhere under the bed. I don't know. It just
Speaker 1: seemed like very put it here, is all my spy
Speaker 1: stuff right now on the table where I can find
Speaker 1: it again.
Speaker 2: You're quite right.
Speaker 1: Yes, again, maybe there's like a spy class at a junior.
Speaker 2: Should have done that first, but Mark Evan Jackson was
Speaker 2: not going to have time for all that.
Speaker 1: I think he's had insufficient training. And also the psychological
Speaker 1: impact of this sort of thing should have been figured
Speaker 1: in and worked on. And you know, maybe there's a
Speaker 1: special secret therapist he could see while he was doing
Speaker 1: this stuff. Yes, yeah, but it was it was fun
Speaker 1: seeing him making especially like the guy he's making friends with.
Speaker 1: That was fun. Yes, And a lot of Shakespeare and painting.
Speaker 1: And I'm surprised they don't have any podcast classes there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like the kind of place every one of those
Speaker 1: old people would have a podcast and they'd be competing
Speaker 1: with US for traffic. So I'm very glad, right, but hey,
Speaker 1: I'm a senior with the podcast, like, may I can
Speaker 1: teach it? Are they hiring? Hey, I'm the wrong. We
Speaker 1: could be a tele class, you know. I don't need
Speaker 1: to be there, right, Yeah, just do it on zoom.
Speaker 1: I have often thought of writing a I started a
Speaker 1: pitch email that's been sitting in my email thing for
Speaker 1: years and years, to like write something for the ARP
Speaker 1: magazine on how to start a podcast. Yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: that hard. It doesn't cost to have to cost anything, right,
Speaker 1: You can just sit down talking to your phone, you know.
Speaker 1: But I never did that, one of the many, many,
Speaker 1: many things I talked about my substack lately. No, we
Speaker 1: have not, and you know why, Well, life is full of.
Speaker 2: Once you retire and move into the retirement living community,
Speaker 2: then you'll have title for all these.
Speaker 1: Things that place Molly cow me taking all the classes.
Speaker 1: I'll get up on that stage shoo yep, yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of I guess. The parenting for
Speaker 1: this week was with Charles's friend and the friend's son,
Speaker 1: both in terms of you know, I remember when he
Speaker 1: was a little good and how he's a grown up
Speaker 1: man with a bright job and no time for me,
Speaker 1: And yeah, I can, I can. I don't know that
Speaker 1: I can relate to that entirely because my kids are
Speaker 1: still here and they still need me in various ways.
Speaker 1: But I do miss the surveillance opportunities I had when
Speaker 1: they were in school and I could ask people what
Speaker 1: was going on, and I don't know that anymore. I
Speaker 1: remember when they had para professionals and I could flag
Speaker 1: them and talk to them quietly in a corner. And
Speaker 1: I also was amused in the having their meeting, the
Speaker 1: residence meeting, and Charles gets kind of swept into being
Speaker 1: vice president. Yes, virtue of being new and not knowing
Speaker 1: how to you know, hide and make no eye content. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've all fallen down that trap once in a while
Speaker 1: in our time as parents.
Speaker 2: Yeah he was.
Speaker 1: He was just be in the restroom when that time
Speaker 1: is coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was subject to flattery there. That was yeah, dangerous.
Speaker 1: He just reeled him right in. Everybody else is like, oh,
Speaker 1: what does that? What's that on this corner? Is this
Speaker 1: on the floor? Let me just go down and crawl
Speaker 1: and get it right. Oh man, you gotta watch out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because nobody wants. That also the difficulty of kids who
Speaker 1: move far away from aging parents because his friend's son
Speaker 1: is going to not be around now, which is of
Speaker 1: course why places like this exist. Yeah, but still it
Speaker 1: is nice to get visits and stuff. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of sad. A lot of it was kind of sad,
Speaker 1: kind of abandoned or alone, you know. And to some
Speaker 1: degree they're not alone because they have each other, but
Speaker 1: they're a it's an artificial peer group. Yeah, so you know,
Speaker 1: it's not like being in your family and so you're
Speaker 1: not alone or your longtime friends or your neighborhood. It's
Speaker 1: a bunch of people you happen to be in the
Speaker 1: same facility with. And and then for Charles to have
Speaker 1: to take a step back and like, well you can't
Speaker 1: actually be friends with them. You tend to be friends
Speaker 1: with them, but then you're going to take away their
Speaker 1: fun things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're booky.
Speaker 1: That is just really sad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the sad part for me of it.
Speaker 2: You know. Oh wait, I yeah, I'm making friends. I
Speaker 2: care about these people and I can't do that to
Speaker 2: hurt them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The thing I like about it the least is that
Speaker 1: it seems to point towards an episode where he gets
Speaker 1: caught out and everybody's mad at him and hurt by
Speaker 1: the things he's done, and I want to watch that.
Speaker 1: I want to watch that, Mike, Sure, I do not
Speaker 1: want to watch that. So that could all happen off stage, okay,
Speaker 1: and then everybody could be okay, right, I don't want
Speaker 1: to watch that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we only have four more to go.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's eight total, and that was okay,
Speaker 2: this was number four that.
Speaker 1: It makes me wonder how this continues as it's already
Speaker 1: been renewed. Does he just take two seasons to solve
Speaker 1: this one case or does he have to do this
Speaker 1: again with a different community, or does he stay with
Speaker 1: this community and just just work for Dede solving any
Speaker 1: little mysteries that come up. How do how do we
Speaker 1: move forward with this?
Speaker 2: Good question?
Speaker 1: I don't know that I want a completely different cast
Speaker 1: every season. No, But at the same point, how much crime.
Speaker 2: Can there be?
Speaker 1: Just come retirement community high jinks? Right, that would be nice,
Speaker 1: that would be fine. I could lose the mystery trappings,
Speaker 1: but then it really sort of does lose its I
Speaker 1: don't know that you could do that. Yeah, So well,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. For now, we'll just continue with
Speaker 2: episode five. It is called presence and Clear Danger, so
Speaker 2: fewer words.
Speaker 1: Yes and a little bit more mangling of the original
Speaker 1: than they be yes. So there's it's starting to get hard. Yes,
Speaker 1: we set up this thing. We got to keep doing it.
Speaker 2: Now, we have to keep doing it well, not just.
Speaker 1: Be clear in presence date.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, who am I to.
Speaker 1: Tell these highly professional television exactly gurus how it's done.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty good with the title though. Man, you guys
Speaker 1: could call me yes, I'd be very reasonable.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll talk about that next Wednesday, and we'll see
Speaker 2: you back here tomorrow for our weekly Roundabout roundup.
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