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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of February seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 2>we're continuing with a Man on the Inside. This was

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<v Speaker 2>season one, episode four, so the halfway point, the curious

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<v Speaker 2>incident of the dog in the painting class.

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<v Speaker 1>In which there was in fact a painting class, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was in fact a dog, though I stuffed.

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<v Speaker 2>A little stuffed dog, and Charles is making friends in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that is probably not helpful to his mission.

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<v Speaker 1>Still it was charming. It was very charming. What it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have is a lot of parenting because no Emily.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we liked we liked having Emily.

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<v Speaker 1>A little just completely apropos of nothing interlude of parenting

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of this show. That's about something else, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But you got bad kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, usually they at least talk on the phone. Did

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<v Speaker 2>they even talk to the phone?

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<v Speaker 1>Talked on the phone? I think she was not involved whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know his friend's son is moving to Singapore?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not going to have time to come by and

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<v Speaker 1>he could say, yeah, my daughter has been getting in

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<v Speaker 1>touch with me every day, but today, Nope, she's not

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<v Speaker 1>calling children. Such a disappointment.

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<v Speaker 2>I miss here.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a lot to do last week. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>she just wanted to stay home. Maybe her boys were

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<v Speaker 1>having some sort of crisis and we'll hear about it

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<v Speaker 1>next week. But this was just about the case and

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<v Speaker 1>being a spy in his level of spycraft, which is

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he was getting a lot of information but

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<v Speaker 1>also getting attached to people, which apparently you can't do,

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<v Speaker 1>which I feel like this detective is not taking good

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<v Speaker 1>care of her. Operative just go in and spy on

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<v Speaker 1>people don't make friends with them, and if you do,

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<v Speaker 1>do it in such a way that you can then

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<v Speaker 1>betray them. Yeah, and expect that there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>no problem with that whatsoever, no fallout from that. There

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<v Speaker 1>are probably some seniors that you would be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do that with, but not this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, it did seem that by the end of

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<v Speaker 2>this episode, DEDI had kind of decided she didn't need

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<v Speaker 2>to be suspecting, you know, that whatever she thought was

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<v Speaker 2>fishy about Charles she kind of got over.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is we think the significance of the putting

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<v Speaker 1>his file back in the file cabinet, that was what

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, it seems.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have another interpretation?

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<v Speaker 1>As the Siren goes by, Kate got away again again?

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<v Speaker 1>Havether theft down at the home? All right? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I figured that must be what it was that

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<v Speaker 1>we hear his file was out, so she had expected him,

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<v Speaker 1>suspected him, and now she's putting it back in. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily see what would have made or suspicious

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place, and if she was suspicious, what

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<v Speaker 1>would have caused her to not be suspicious?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So? Okay, well, I think at least she has less

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<v Speaker 1>lines than the guy unlost, but yeah, the filing cabinet

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<v Speaker 1>in a meaningful way.

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<v Speaker 2>Stephanie, Yeah, I guess I just thought it was sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like she was keeping an eye on him, and

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<v Speaker 2>then when she saw that he was, you know, integrating

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<v Speaker 2>pretty pretty well, then she she decided, Okay, he's he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Interpretation and probably the intended one. I can't think of

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<v Speaker 1>what else it would mean, So.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure we did. You know? The dog of the title

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<v Speaker 2>is the stuff dog that has been fairly prominent in

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<v Speaker 2>almost every So you never noticed he always has it

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<v Speaker 2>by him.

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<v Speaker 1>Terrible spy, Have we noticed this? Have we mentioned this?

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<v Speaker 2>No, whenever he was sitting by at his in his

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<v Speaker 2>like armchair, he always had it next to him.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad to know that because then the story

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<v Speaker 1>about it being his wife and reminding him of her

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<v Speaker 1>as legitimate and not just to cover at the last minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy cow, what is going on in my neighborhood? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you hear all these sirens going by?

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<v Speaker 2>More sirens?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Two out of four of my family members are

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<v Speaker 1>not home, so that makes me nervous. Whenever I hear

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<v Speaker 1>a siren, something is going on. Nobody's set their terrible

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<v Speaker 1>father on fire or something, right, built a senior citizen

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<v Speaker 1>out of jewels. So I wonder if this, uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>lady who was the volunteer and had met his wife,

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<v Speaker 1>if she's gonna be trouble. H.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was that actress? By the way, good question, because

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<v Speaker 2>I felt familiar, she looked familiar, and I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's look on IMDb.

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<v Speaker 2>Jama Jama Williamson. I have no see, Yes, that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>her name. Oh, she was on The Good Place. She

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<v Speaker 2>was on eight episodes of The Good Place.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, who did she play?

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<v Speaker 2>Val? Oh? She was on eleven episodes of Parks and

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<v Speaker 2>rec as Wendy Haverford.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh was she Tom's? Oh? Yeah, she was Tom's. Tom

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<v Speaker 1>married him to be able to stay in medical school, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she dated Ron for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So that's how we know her from those to Mike, sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason has passed since last right, swin that show?

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<v Speaker 2>Since we watched either of those things. But we knew

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<v Speaker 2>she looked familiar.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, there we go, And like trouble watching any show

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<v Speaker 1>by a showrunner you've seen before is just like always a.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't that right in the show?

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<v Speaker 1>They were on this show? Who were they? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember these people at the end when he took off

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<v Speaker 1>all his spy stuff and left it in his room. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't there a thief at this place that goes into

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<v Speaker 1>people's room.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, hopefully he locked his door.

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<v Speaker 1>I need not to maybe hide it. Perhaps there's a

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<v Speaker 1>safe somewhere under the bed. I don't know. It just

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like very put it here, is all my spy

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<v Speaker 1>stuff right now on the table where I can find

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<v Speaker 1>it again.

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<v Speaker 2>You're quite right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, again, maybe there's like a spy class at a junior.

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<v Speaker 2>Should have done that first, but Mark Evan Jackson was

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<v Speaker 2>not going to have time for all that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's had insufficient training. And also the psychological

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<v Speaker 1>impact of this sort of thing should have been figured

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<v Speaker 1>in and worked on. And you know, maybe there's a

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<v Speaker 1>special secret therapist he could see while he was doing

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. Yes, yeah, but it was it was fun

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<v Speaker 1>seeing him making especially like the guy he's making friends with.

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<v Speaker 1>That was fun. Yes, And a lot of Shakespeare and painting.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm surprised they don't have any podcast classes there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the kind of place every one of those

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<v Speaker 1>old people would have a podcast and they'd be competing

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<v Speaker 1>with US for traffic. So I'm very glad, right, but hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a senior with the podcast, like, may I can

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<v Speaker 1>teach it? Are they hiring? Hey, I'm the wrong. We

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<v Speaker 1>could be a tele class, you know. I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to be there, right, Yeah, just do it on zoom.

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<v Speaker 1>I have often thought of writing a I started a

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<v Speaker 1>pitch email that's been sitting in my email thing for

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<v Speaker 1>years and years, to like write something for the ARP

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<v Speaker 1>magazine on how to start a podcast. Yeah, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that hard. It doesn't cost to have to cost anything, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You can just sit down talking to your phone, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I never did that, one of the many, many,

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<v Speaker 1>many things I talked about my substack lately. No, we

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<v Speaker 1>have not, and you know why, Well, life is full of.

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<v Speaker 2>Once you retire and move into the retirement living community,

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<v Speaker 2>then you'll have title for all these.

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<v Speaker 1>Things that place Molly cow me taking all the classes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get up on that stage shoo yep, yep, yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a lot of I guess. The parenting for

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<v Speaker 1>this week was with Charles's friend and the friend's son,

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<v Speaker 1>both in terms of you know, I remember when he

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<v Speaker 1>was a little good and how he's a grown up

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<v Speaker 1>man with a bright job and no time for me,

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I can, I can. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>I can relate to that entirely because my kids are

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<v Speaker 1>still here and they still need me in various ways.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do miss the surveillance opportunities I had when

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<v Speaker 1>they were in school and I could ask people what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on, and I don't know that anymore. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember when they had para professionals and I could flag

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<v Speaker 1>them and talk to them quietly in a corner. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also was amused in the having their meeting, the

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<v Speaker 1>residence meeting, and Charles gets kind of swept into being

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<v Speaker 1>vice president. Yes, virtue of being new and not knowing

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<v Speaker 1>how to you know, hide and make no eye content. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've all fallen down that trap once in a while

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<v Speaker 1>in our time as parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just be in the restroom when that time

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was subject to flattery there. That was yeah, dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>He just reeled him right in. Everybody else is like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what does that? What's that on this corner? Is this

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<v Speaker 1>and get it right. Oh man, you gotta watch out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because nobody wants. That also the difficulty of kids who

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<v Speaker 1>move far away from aging parents because his friend's son

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<v Speaker 1>is going to not be around now, which is of

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<v Speaker 1>course why places like this exist. Yeah, but still it

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<v Speaker 1>is nice to get visits and stuff. So it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sad. A lot of it was kind of sad,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of abandoned or alone, you know. And to some

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<v Speaker 1>degree they're not alone because they have each other, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're a it's an artificial peer group. Yeah, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like being in your family and so you're

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<v Speaker 1>not alone or your longtime friends or your neighborhood. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people you happen to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>same facility with. And and then for Charles to have

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<v Speaker 1>to take a step back and like, well you can't

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<v Speaker 1>actually be friends with them. You tend to be friends

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<v Speaker 1>with them, but then you're going to take away their

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<v Speaker 1>fun things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're booky.

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<v Speaker 1>That is just really sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was the sad part for me of it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Oh wait, I yeah, I'm making friends. I

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<v Speaker 2>care about these people and I can't do that to

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<v Speaker 2>hurt them. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing I like about it the least is that

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to point towards an episode where he gets

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<v Speaker 1>the things he's done, and I want to watch that.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to watch that, Mike, Sure, I do not

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<v Speaker 1>want to watch that. So that could all happen off stage, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, we only have four more to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think there's eight total, and that was okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this was number four that.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes me wonder how this continues as it's already

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<v Speaker 1>again with a different community, or does he stay with

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I want a completely different cast

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<v Speaker 1>every season. No, But at the same point, how much crime.

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<v Speaker 2>Can there be?

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<v Speaker 1>Just come retirement community high jinks? Right, that would be nice,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be fine. I could lose the mystery trappings,

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<v Speaker 1>but then it really sort of does lose its I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that you could do that. Yeah, So well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see what happens. For now, we'll just continue with

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<v Speaker 2>episode five. It is called presence and Clear Danger, so

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<v Speaker 2>fewer words.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes and a little bit more mangling of the original

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<v Speaker 1>than they be yes. So there's it's starting to get hard. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we set up this thing. We got to keep doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, we have to keep doing it well, not just.

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<v Speaker 1>Be clear in presence date.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, who am I to.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell these highly professional television exactly gurus how it's done.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty good with the title though. Man, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>could call me yes, I'd be very reasonable.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll talk about that next Wednesday, and we'll see

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