Speaker 1: If you are looking to make some money betting Monday
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Speaker 2: This is the best betting show ever.
Speaker 1: I am, of course, Brian Power once again sitting in
for Lawrence President, and I am joined but my good
friend and yours Joe Rnary, Just Joe and I here
on a Monday to the delights of Joe.
Speaker 2: Let us start to the week for you. This must
be mister Venieri.
Speaker 3: This is I mean, I I've been thinking about this
all weekend, Like, wow, how lucky am I to get
up on a Monday and get the news that pres
is not available, which is exciting on its own merits,
But then the idea that but don't worry, Brian Power
is here to fill in. This just keeps getting better
and better as we end the year here.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, I don't know if you have
the graphic teed up.
Speaker 1: I guess as you probably have it somewhere any but
it is a out of the fryer into the frying
pan kind of situation. Me dumpster, there we go, all right,
Miami and Pittsburgh, guys, it's great to be here, by
the way, smash that like but I'm happy to be here.
Oh about Joe, he's busting on all the old Yes.
Speaker 4: That's great, awful comments, those comments coming, By the way,
I have read your comments over the last several days,
Joe and I I think the people have really been
enjoying it.
Speaker 1: Joe, and let's give him something else to enjoy here
as we talk Dolphins and Steelers. A very interesting Monday
night matchup. Uh even the match teams you look, you know,
from a point differential perspective, from a yards per play,
a differential perspective, he seems are pretty even. So I'm
not surprised at all. The Steelers just laying a field
goal here at home should probably I think, you know,
by the time most people are watching this Monday afternoon,
a lot of people are probably aware of this. But
let's just in case they aren't, let's make it clear. Uh,
to a stinks when it's cold, and it's gonna be
cold tonight in Pittsburgh. And then Mike Tomlin is phenomenal
on Monday night football. So Joe, the trends would favor
a play on the Steelers here. What do you favor,
my good friend.
Speaker 3: Let's see if let's see we can't shed some light
on what we think. Let's start with the from a
point perspective here, where are the points coming from? Exactly
in this game are they? Because I'm having even from
a prop betting perspective, I'm having a hard time figuring
out because I certainly favor the under in this game.
I just don't know. Are we going to accumulate a
lot of yards in this game and a lot of
field goals or is this game just going to be
played between the thirty yard lines and that's it? Because
I mean, even anytime touchdowns, you would think, you know,
Chan says he's going, but he could be one hit
away from not going anymore. In that game. There are
a lot of plus money prices for any time touchdowns
in this game. But again, if I'm thinking this is
an under, how many touchdowns are we getting? BP? Do
you think in this spot?
Speaker 1: So you brought up something that I was thinking of
as well, that I think this game we're going to
see is gonna be spent between the thirties and there's
gonna be a lot of what they call empty yards.
I think there's gonna be a lot of drives that
take time off the clock and result in nothing. Both
of these offenses should, and I do stress the word should,
have success running the football. You mentioned eighth chan is
good to go. Well, the Steelers defense, I mean they
used to be you know, for decades there was their
calling hard on defense, stopping the run.
Speaker 2: Not this group.
Speaker 1: They're twenty eighth in the league in EPA per rush
all out? Are the Steelers? Now the Dolphins are twenty
eighth in the league in just yards per rush all
out kind of a more traditional statistic there. So I
think both of these team offenses are going to move
the ball running, but not necessarily. I don't like you
alluded to a moment ago there, Joe, I don't know
how many points that results in. I just think there's
a lot of drives that take to time off the
clock and don't result in anything. And if you're an
underbetter that's what you want. That's the script, right, Drives
that just don't you know, drives to take time off
the clock and result in no points.
Speaker 3: Well, the other problem you have is that you know,
Miami hasn't cracked the two hundred net yards passing since
October thirtieth, So you know that's the other problem is
that Okay, I mean this isn't and I know they've
been a grind him out kind of team here on
the ground, which is great, but again, where are the
points coming from? I do think the guy that's going
to have a ton of success in this game, in
the passing a game, I think the Steelers are where
I would focus and Kenneth Gainwell because he is one
of the better, more productive backs catching the ball out
of the backfield, the screen game, the short up off passes.
He's been fantastic for Pittsburgh. Miami's defense also ranks thirtieth
against opposing running backs when it comes to receiving, so
they don't cover him very well. And the other thing
you got to be careful of is that Miami is
a top ten blitzing team in the NFL. Did you
just see what Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers did against
the Baltimore blitz He nailed him for one hundred and
twenty one yards in the air on three d passes
that all of a sudden they opened up the playbook here.
So it feels like advantage Pittsburgh and that's where I
would look at. But I think Gainwell's receiving prop is
probably one of the better bets on the board here tonight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know your point about the Dolphins passing game.
I want to go back to that and how they
haven't gone back two hundred. Well, let's go back to
the very start of the show, the trend I shared
about Tua in the cold. Now, I know a lot
of people are going to bring up, well, it was
forty one degrees last week. Because the arbitrary cutoff number
that everyone uses for Tua is forty degrees or colder.
He's zero to five all time in games where the
kickoff temperatures forty degrees are lower. He did win last
week and it was forty one degrees. It's going to
be twenty something degrees tonight in Pittsburgh. So it's not
it is going to be a col We don't need
to use arbitrary cutoffs. This is going to be a
cold game. And I bring that up, Joe, because I
don't think two is going to break out of the
passing yard sat here in this I mean history says
he's going to struggle. So what I would want to
do if I was looking at a player proper, he
remember last week or last Thursday, it was on the show.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, they gave out a.
Speaker 1: Rushing attempts prop with Bucky Irving, which cashed by a half.
Oh cool, I said under sixteen and a half. Here
he finished sixteen. I would go over eight. I would
go over eight. Champ as long as he's healthy. I
think they're going to feed him tonight. I would go
over on his rushing contemt. I think we're going to
see a lot of him. This is a guy who
had a lot of touches before being pulled in that
Jets game due to injury. So look, the Dolphins aren't
winning without a big game from him. So I would
look over on his rushing attempts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the under in some way, shape or form,
And I would go to the prop betting market in
this situation here, because I do think there's a handful
of guys. And listen, we saw metcalf be the recipient
of those stretching the field shots with Aaron Rodgers, and
he was spot on. And you know, I could you
make the argument that, listen, if what he did to
Baltimore's defense last week is pretty darn impressive, is Miami's
defense on bar with Baltimore currently. I don't know. They
just sort of shut out against Joe Burrow yesterday, which
is also pretty impressive. The Ravens did. So the bottom
line is both these teams need this. I don't think TJ.
Watt is as big a loss as maybe some do.
Although the hook disappeared right during the week here, once
that new and that's all right, give me a half
a point, I'm good to go. But against this Miami
team who's not throwing the ball anyway, I don't know
that not having DJ Watt is all that. I don't
think it's gonna differ the game plan from what Miami
was gonna do anyway, which is try and run the
damn ball the whole time of possession and go that route.
So TJ Watta though a big loss in this spot
against this team, I don't know it's as big as
everyone thinks it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know there's Priace some people out there watching screaming,
what about the side, What about the side? Not to
be a cop not to have a cop out here,
But this game is gonna cut the side tonight comes
down to an interception from Rogers or Tua, maybe a
big teams play that's.
Speaker 2: What's gonna decerm this game.
Speaker 1: It's why ultimately I didn't give anything to my clients
over at wager talk on this game.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: I think it's a very even matchup.
Speaker 1: Hard to do, but if I did play anything, I
would play eight Chan over his rush attempts.
Speaker 3: I don't mind the h and in fact I do.
I have a four percent top play here in this game.
It's it's the best edge that I think I could
find in this game that I liked a lot. It
hasn't changed, so yeah, that would I have a best
bet in this game over at wager talk dot com.
But you know, it's tough. You're right, it's tough to
figure out because it feels like it could be one
play one way or the other decides it with these
two teams. But the under I think is if you're
looking for anything, under is probably the way i'd look.
Speaker 1: I would concur with that. All right, What did we
learn over the weekend? Joe, I learned a lot. I
always learn a lot watching football. No, I didn't learn that.
Speaker 3: No, are you sure? Okay?
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, well, it's nice to see
that you've removed the akron from the voice bubbles that again,
I would like most people want other than you.
Speaker 2: Everyone knows I went to ohiou, but that's okay.
Speaker 1: But no, I did not suck over the weekend, Joe
three and two Saturday two and one, Yes, three overall,
I wish it could have been six and two. NC
State was very frustrating on Saturday nights. We were talking
about about life. But here's what we learned, Joe. I
often am not afraid to buy low by any sport,
by a team it's seemingly its lowest point. And something
I learned is guys teams off a shutout loss, you
want to consider them.
Speaker 2: In the NFL.
Speaker 1: We have now had five teams coming off shutout losses
this season in the NFL. All of them have come
back and covered the spread the following week, and it
was Washington who did it yesterday against the Giants. I
talked about that actually on the show either Thursday or Friday,
that I liked Washington in that game. It was the
first time the Giants were favorite all season, and I
don't like playing bad teams as a favorite. So interestingly enough, Joe,
mark dis down in your notebooks circle, there are two
teams that got shut out yesterday. They would be the
Bengals who you mentioned. And then boy, you talk about
buy and low. Can I convince you to put your
harder money in the Las Vegas Raiders next week because
they were shut out as well yesterday, and they may
be the team that stops the trend. They are getting
a healthy number at Houston tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Hold on, let me think. Let me think about that.
For no, absolutely, not under any way, shape or form,
am I backing anything to do with the Raiders because
they got shut out. I'll tell you my theory on
the Raiders. You're ready. Pete Carroll is no fool, all right,
even though he keeps track of the obviously, just spreads
into totals and plays it off like he does it.
You know what else, Pete Carroll has been around this
game a long time. You know what else? He knows
that number one draft pick is his. Who the number
one draft pick is his next year? And you can
reshape an organization with the number one draft pick with
as many quarterback needy teams, including his own, in fact
next year. So don't let Pete fool you like, oh shucks,
I can't believe we didn't score any put. It wouldn't
shock me at all if Pete is just being like, yeah,
we're not winning, we're not winning anything. We're getting that
number one draft pick and we're good to go, and
we'll talk about next year down down the road. Because
they are awful on a whole different level.
Speaker 1: I would say, if he would like to not win
the rest of the year, I would recommend starting Kendy
Pickett seventy what seventy five seventy nine total yards in
the game Eagles. They didn't gain eighty yards guys yesterday.
It's very bad if you're new to this. So so
that's a couple of things I learned. What else did
we learn over the weekend in the NFL? Well, Kansas City.
We learned Kansas City's not going to the playoffs. I
should mention that was my one loser yesterday. I love
man that I taught. I really loved the Chiefs going yesterday.
I'll be honest with you, and it was wrong. They
it just wasn't their year. It's just it's one of
those years that it just wasn't good. Stuff's not going
to go their way.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're acting as if they been bad every
like they haven't sucked since twenty and sixteen, so like
it's quite a run here in professional sports. So and
you know, they've got some issues on that team. I
think a year off is not the worst thing in
the world to try to reset that organization and figure
some things out there. But you know they do have
what's his what's his name there in the backup quarterback?
What's his name?
Speaker 2: Ohner Minshew?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, he got Gardner's fun. At least he'll
be entertaining. But no, that team has got some That
team has got some issues. And the question I have
though from this past weekend is that for as many
people who were jumping up and down and telling me
the fact that the Green Bay Packers traded for Micah
Parsons meant that they were now the favorite to win
the Super Bowl. So now that he's torn is and
blew his knee out, does that mean they're no longer
the not even making the playoffs here? I mean, it
was he that important to this team because that defense
couldn't stop a nose, believe even when he was on
the field yesterday in Denver. So how much did Micah
Parsons really mean to this Green Bay Packers team because
Christian Watson getting knocked out of that game I thought
was a bigger issue than not having Micaeh Parsons. If
you don't have Christian Watson, I think I think green
Bay screwed down the road. It would be great to
have Micah, but not having him isn't the end of
the world. I think for green Bay. I think Christian
Watson much more impactful than he is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I think you know, you talk
about green Bay's future, Joe, we were stay off here,
It's probably going to come down to them and Detroit
for that last playoff spot in the NFC if I
were handicapping a playoff race, and your point about Watson
is well taken. Look, you know, there's a lot of
discussion that goes out about Jordan He's he's got a
bad receiver group to throw to. I think a lot
of the problems with Green Bay's offense stems from the
fact that more often than not, he's not getting a
lot of guys. A lot of guys aren't getting open
for Jordan Love. So if yeah, Christian Watson, obviously wide
receiver is gone. I mean that makes the wide receiver
room even worse, So it is something to monitor. I
know Chicago, you know, Art's not here today obviously, but
Chicago took early money for that Saturday game against Green Bay.
Green Bays down to a one and a half point
road favorite, still favored.
Speaker 3: The pack are.
Speaker 1: Against the Bears in a rematch from just two weeks
ago that the Packers one in Lambeau.
Speaker 3: Oh, I got another thing I learned. Okay, well, actually
I kind of knew it, but we'll let it go
out there anyway. Don't bet against Josh Allen in December.
That's all I'm gonna say. You want to see the
difference on why experience matters this time of year. Yeah,
Buffalo down twenty one points to the New England Patriots,
who have been a great story. And I'm not taking
anything away, but it's a young, inexperienced team that has
not been there. They have not done that. There was
never a look of panic in Josh Allen or anybody
on Buffalo's sideline during that first half. And you know
who the number one second half team is against the
number this year, the East single most profitable team to
back in the second half of games, the Buffalo Bills.
You know, who's great early the New England Patriots, who
I think have only trailed in one game so far
this year at the break scripted portion of the game.
Brig back New England when it matters, when it's crunch
time in the second half. Yeah, that's why you back
Josh Allen in a Buffalo Bills, which is why they're
never really out of it, because they're built to win
games in December and January. And the reigning MVP is
the MVP for a reason. And you saw that on
full display yesterday.
Speaker 2: Nobody circles the wagons quite like the Buffalo Bill. I
guess you could say, right, you know, that's a game.
Speaker 1: I'll say, if you're the Patriots, you have to put
that game away. Though you're up three touchdowns at Hall,
we get your main division rival, you out gain him
by two point three yards per play. What here's the problem.
They just didn't have the ball. The Bills just played
keep away in the second half.
Speaker 3: You take away. I've been two seventy yard you know,
ridiculous runs. What did you do? I mean, seriously, what
did you do there in that game? You didn't do nothing?
So you know you can't always count on Trayvon Henderson
getting around the outside and going eighty yards and sixty
five yards and you know you got to but you
gotta learn to win those games. You just don't fall
out of bed. And I mean, people forget, this isn't
the Patriots teams of years ago, Dave got. It's still
a learning curve here and an experience factor. I think
they're on track. I mean, I think you got your quarterback.
I think you got your coach. I think everything is
on track. But my goodness, can we stop with the
MVP talk and all this other crap, Like, just go
out and win that game and then we can talk
about your championship and your MVP. But you didn't. You
didn't because you've never had to win that game yet.
But maybe you will next time.
Speaker 1: Well, and it's interesting New England just had a ten
game Winstrey step there an underdog again next week at Baltimore.
I think the more experience, yes, and that's a game
that the Ravens obviously have to have. It was obviously
a limited college slate on Saturday, just the first Bowl game,
which was a complete blowout with Washington running boys out
of the right out.
Speaker 3: All that ever, Bet the over in an Army Navy game.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I was gonna say. Yes, that was
my last point. Just don't don't do it.
Speaker 1: It looked good for a while, right, both teams march
down the field, no pun intended to score, and you know,
Army got some cheap oos, some.
Speaker 2: Field goals right before half. Still didn't matter.
Speaker 1: Still didn't matter, And I would I would always take
the points too, Like I said I did on the
Power five video over the weekend. I said, look, guys,
game with a total is low, you got to take
our me the points, don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they're very good to a revenge spot on
a low total. Obvious, Yes, very very good. Although the
the turnovers were just absolutely brutal in that game. But
a good game came down to last couple of plays,
which is the way those games usually should come down.
And I'll throw one other one. Don't bet against Michigan
anytime soon in college basketball, because they appear to be
going though. They didn't cover against Maryland, but they almost.
Speaker 1: Almost Honest with you, Joe, it sort of seemed like
the players wanted to cover.
Speaker 2: They I mean, they were running, they were not driveled.
Speaker 1: They were not using the shot clock at the end
of the game, man that I was laughing. I was like,
oh my god, if anyone.
Speaker 3: He's purposely trying to go scorch start, it looks like
and don't look now, but we finally might have a
rivalry in the NBA again worth tuning in for because us.
What the San Antonio Spurs did to the Oklahoma City
Thunder on Saturday was absolutely beautiful. And the fact that
OKC has got the nerve to bitch and moan about
the officiating after the game cracks me up, because no
team lives at the free throw line more than OKAC
and SGA and his leg kicks and every and fat
like please, So I'm glad by the way they play.
In eight days on the twenty third in San Antonio again,
so finally not everyone is kumbai ya and everyone's friendly
and likes one another. Maybe we can get a little
bad blood again in the NBA there BP and make
it worth watching.
Speaker 1: And nobody likes bad blood more than you, you know,
and no one likes kumbai Yai less than you, I believe, correct,
that is correct. I've read the comics for the last
couple of days. I think everyone who watches understands that
as well partlay of the day. You no, it's gonna
be a two leg of the day. It's two show today,
so well, you know what the if I'm wrong, easier
to win a two leg parlay than a three leg parlay,
So uh, no.
Speaker 2: Excuses for the two of us.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start her off. I'm gonna go with the
Clipper since the parlay I think I can do this.
I'm just gonna go with the Clippers money line in
the NBA, I'm interested to hear your take the NBA
rundown on this game. Look, the Clippers, You've said it
on the show when I've been here.
Speaker 2: They're bad.
Speaker 1: But I think this is an ideal spot to back
the Clips tonight against Memphis. I know it is the
clips first game back home after a road trip. Traditionally
you look to fade. I don't want to lay the
points with the Clippers, but I do think they will
win tonight at home over the Griz.
Speaker 3: Well, how much is what? What is that money line?
What is that? What is that sixty? How much?
Speaker 2: We can't remind us one sixty?
Speaker 3: Just talking about sure, because mine's going to be nearly
five to one, So mine's gonna be about a five
hundred and one.
Speaker 2: No, I'm only kidding. I would lay the points here.
Speaker 3: BP. You follow some insignificant college basketball conferences.
Speaker 1: Right, I will be talking about them momentarily as a
matter of fact.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, then no doubt on your list must be
how many wins does Gardner Web have this year?
Speaker 2: Do you know Gardner Web is very bad?
Speaker 3: Correct?
Speaker 1: They are if you're on Kenpalm dot com or if
you would like to go there, we'll watch them this video.
You'll have to scroll to the very bottom of the
page to find the running bullbox and Gardner Web and they.
Speaker 3: Are at home. Not that that matters. Taking on Wafford tonight,
who was down thirty five points at home in the
first half to Elon last game and got their ass
handed to them, I would I think the number is
what ten, ten and a half somewhere along those lines.
So I would lay the points with Wafford here tonight
against Gardener Way I think they might have. I think
they might have a little bug up there, you know
what here look to take out some frustration because Wafford
doesn't lose to the Elons of the world at home
like they did, so, Yes, I think that might be
a good look for our two team par license. You
went cheesy in the minus one sixty.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't do that very often. I'm not
allowed to do it. It's a light card for the record, Joe.
Speaker 3: I think you know, Okay, I was just waiting for
a big dog or something, but nothing. Nope. I was
thought maybe you'd go, I don't know, South Dakota State
on the money line at home against Wyom, But no, okay,
we go it's taking that.
Speaker 1: What's Niagara on the money line? Well, tonight we'll talk
about that just a little bit. Bad beats, bad bets.
Let's go to this segment here, what don'd give me
a bad beat?
Speaker 3: Joe?
Speaker 2: What do you think was what was a what? What
do you think was the bad beat of the weekend?
Speaker 3: Oh? Well, I think anybody who expected bad teams to
do good things this weekend were let down. Anybody that
thought the Browns were going to be some sort of
you know, we're gonna give up a fight because Shador
has figured some note. Nope, nope, that was not a
good situation at all. There Also, I believe outside of
a handful of those games that had that where we
didn't get a ton of points, right, I think the
Bears and Browns that game still landed under, although barely.
I think Baltimore and Cincinnati was under because Cincinnati just
didn't contribute anything in that. But we also saw a
ton of overs in spots yesterday that we thought maybe
might be a little bit closer. And yeah, no, a
lot less defense, a lot more offense in some of
these games. We're starting to know it's another over last night.
I believe over is very profitable this past week here BP,
this past weekend in the NFL, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were a lot of favorites teams at their
high water mark. I mean you look at the board, Houston, Jacksonville, Chicago.
It was the most points that Stroud, the point Williamson
had ever laid and they all covered the spread.
Speaker 3: Look at that.
Speaker 1: You know, here's a bad beat for anyone who had Tennessee. Now,
first of I don't personally know anyone who had Tennessee
against San Francisco, but kick that late field goal to
cover every number. Uh So that was I guess that's
you get what you asked for. If you're betting Tennessee,
you sort of probably deserve.
Speaker 3: To have that hat. That was so bad and there
was no reason to kick the field no reason to
kick that field goal at all. None. That was absolutely
terrible there. And by the way, shout out to Grandpa there,
Philip Rivers, who I mean, let's face it, if you
thought Seattle was going to just steamroll Indie because Philip
Rivers getting and it was back to my point, originally,
they're not rolling forty four year old Philip Rivers off
the couch under center unless they think he can give
them a chance to win. And he did just that BP,
which is the only thing they asked him to do,
was give put them in, don't lose the game, give
him a chance to win the game. And he did
just that and unfortunately six field goals for Seattle was
what ended up winning him that game. That's just crazy.
Speaker 1: It's also crazy how much better Seattle is on the road. Yeah,
they're at home obviously, you know under the afore mentioned
Pete Carroll, who we talked about earlier. That was certainly
the opposite, was the case. Yeah, shout out to Philip Rivers,
he's my age. I will and it was a bad bet.
If you took the ass end of the line, Yes
you will, Joe Seattle. That was just a bad bet.
You shouldn't do that.
Speaker 3: And there were a lot of people running to the
money line during that first half too, that were that
were jacking up money line bets in game there while
because it was clear early on that Seattle's not running
away with any thing in this game anytime soon. So
shout out to lou Ana Rumo once again one of
the better defensive coordinators in the game. Sooner or later
he'll get a head coaching job.
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I don't think the Bengal should have
let go of him. That was kind of dumb. But uh,
you know what, one last point then we're gonna get
to the business segments of the program. I believe what
an indictment it is on quarterback development at the college
level that the Colts felt more comfortable calling forty five
year old Philip Rivers off the couch. Correct, it's not
supposed to be that way, like and and you watch
college football lot, Joe and I've been. I was talking
with some friends over the weekend. I don't think it's
getting any better, Like, I mean, you look at them.
I don't know that's not my job. But I'm going
to tell you Fernando Mendoza and Diego Pavia are not
coming into this league and dominating.
Speaker 3: No, they're not. Neither neither guy the teams for more
than twelve It's like, that's the problem is that we
have nobody cultivating the quarterback position in college anymore because
they're going from coach to coach to coach to coach.
And how are you supposed to how are you supposed
to learn anything from anybody in the NFL ranks anymore
from a college from a quarterback perspective and expect to
get a close to finished product. So you basically have
to finish all the coaching in the NFL, which means
you better get drafted by the right guy. And there's
only so many Andy Reid's, you know what I mean,
or mcveigh's of the world who are gonna and those
guys ain't drafting quarterbacks. That's the other problem that you have.
So I'm with you, man, it's good luck. Having the
first draft pick is great. How long before those quarterbacks
become actually useful?
Speaker 1: Well, And the interesting thing is you talk about you
need to go to a right situation. Look at guys
like Daryl and Mayfield who are now service of Letterbelt
NFL corrucks. They flamed out in their first stop and
they wound up, you know, those teams, the Jets, the
Browns wound up developing a quarterback developing for another team.
You know, it takes the other thing too. You got
to be patient with some of these guys. You know, Joe,
I was talking to another couple buddies over the weekend
as well, that they're into like high school football stuff here.
Hig school football pretty.
Speaker 3: Big on U. I've heard you say, okay, well all
right on here, both high school and college.
Speaker 1: You look at these offenses, how they're being run, Joe,
it's a lot that was not Its not being high
school though, it wasn't. You look at these offenses, Joe,
how they're being run at the high school and college level.
A lot of it is just let's out athlete the
defense right, Let's throw these wide receiver screens. We can
get eight to ten yards on it. In the pros,
that doesn't work. I think it goes beyond just the
individual quarterbacks we're seeing at those levels. I think it's
these just sort of simplified offenses that we're seeing at
the lower levels that are just leading, that are just
leading to do these guys get in the NFL. You
got to make four reads in two seconds and it's
hard to do.
Speaker 2: It's hard to do.
Speaker 3: No, it's uh, you got you know how many more
times have we see like the NBA is different, Like
in college basketball, we have maybe one of the most
talented crop of freshmen I have seen in a very
long time. We've got maybe four or five legit number
one picks that could go out this year and be
impactful in the NBA. Right, you just saw a Cooper Flang.
He started to get Because the NBA is the stars league.
The NFL is a coaching league. If you don't get
with the right coach, you're screwing. You're screwed. So eventually,
what happens the Sam Donald reclamations, the Daniel Jones is
all of a sudden, Lobert IPPs to get with the
right coach, Baker Mayfield get with the right coach, and boom,
look at that, great things can happen. So the problem
is the coaching at the NFL level is that there's
only a handful of guys as well that are even
smart off and capble enough to actually cultivate a quarterback.
And you know, good luck there, cam Ward in Tennessee.
I hope they hire the right guy for you, Goes,
otherwise you'll be out of the league in three years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another thing.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of great coaches coming through the
pipeline either. All right, let's talk about let's handle some business.
Let's throw a pres and his Natalie attired Las Vegas outfitter,
whatever that is, President being back on Tuesday. I'm told
I am here with you, Joe, much to your delight,
both Tuesday and Wednesday. I believe Art to Caesar will
be joining us both Tuesday and Wednesday, if I am
not mistaken. But some business guys, I'll just talk about
it right now. Monday is likely going to be a
pass for me, but I am going to be very
busy and diligent working on the college bulls.
Speaker 2: Do not forget.
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Speaker 1: All right, that's where we are, and I'll be on
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Speaker 2: In addition to this show that I do.
Speaker 3: I doopular, I am, Yes, I am.
Speaker 2: People love to work with me, Joe, and I know
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Speaker 3: Sex yes exactly, Yes.
Speaker 2: All right, shall we do the rundown?
Speaker 1: You mentioned college basketball teams that not a lot of
people care about yes.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, well we've.
Speaker 1: Got uh yeah, we got quite a handful of college
basketball games that I'm going to make you care about.
Not a lot of people could talk about all these teams, Joe,
but I can starting now, all right.
Speaker 2: Uh Niagara, they're at VCU. Niagara is terrible.
Speaker 1: They're oh and seven straight up and against the spread
their last seven games facing a VCU team, Joe, that
should be mad as hell following a loss here at
home to Do Mexico last week. Personally, I thought the
Rams would play a lot better in that spot. They
closed as a ten point favorite. They took a lot
of money, so the obvious reaction, guys is to come
back and want to lay it with.
Speaker 2: The angry favorite.
Speaker 1: Problem is, the line for this Niagara VCU game is
now sitting at thirty two. It's a lot of points.
Full disclosure, Niagara stinks. We're talking about one of the
ten worst teams in the country. However, they've lost by
more than thirty two only one time this entire season,
and that was to Duke, So I can't lay it
in this situation. Wyoming San Diego State is the other
game on the main board. Wyoming is a team that
was kind to me and my clients. Last week, I
took them team total over. They cashed easily. They put
over one hundred points on the board in that game,
but that was in Laramie, where they're a lot better.
This is a neutral site game against San Diego State.
I know the Cowboys have taken money, but I would
be a little more trepidacious with them playing away from home.
East Texas AAN. Let's go to the extra board. East
Texas A and M. Southeast Louisiana. Southeast Louisiana's off loss.
I think they bounced back, probably at home, even though
the dog has taken money there. Joe mentioned Wafford Gardner Web.
Wafford has owned Gardner Web when these teams have played
over the last decade, perfect seven and zero straight up
North Alabama. Money's come on them against Alabama A and M.
I agree North Alabama's off a couple upsets wins. I
think they handle their business here. Houston Christian is an
attractive underdog against McNeice. McNeice has obviously been head and
shoulders the class of the Southland, laying points on the road.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 1: Look, the market likes McNeese here, but I think for me,
I could only consider the underdrug and then probably my
favorite play, I'll save it for last Joe. Probably if
I did get to the window on anything tonight in
college hoops, it would be Incarnate Word plus the point.
Speaker 2: TCU.
Speaker 1: Incarnate Word beat McNeese and they've lost two after two
in a row after that, TCU. Don't be fooled by
that last score against North Texas. They were losing a halftime,
so I like Incarnate Word plus the points there.
Speaker 3: Really, it looks like they're taking a little bit of
money there as well BP, but it's a pretty good
Jamie Dixon team for a while. Took him a little
while to figure it out. But TCU, I might surprise
a few people here. But that is a big number,
that is for sure.
Speaker 1: See TCU's best result this year arguably is a loss.
Speaker 2: They came close to me with Michigan.
Speaker 3: That's what we talked about earlier.
Speaker 1: So you know, again, I think it's a potential flat
spot or on final exams they lay that big number.
Speaker 2: Incredit word. It's gonna be really fired up after back
to back losses.
Speaker 3: Yes they are all right, let's go to the NBA
here tonight. VP because We have some interesting games lined up,
and it starts, of course, first and foremost, with Boston
taking on Detroit. Detroit is what many people believe is
the best team in the Eastern Conference, which is saying
a lot here. Both teams arrested, both teams are healthy,
Boston coming off an abysmal performance last time out. It's
virtually a Pickham prize. But if call me crazy, I
still think Detroit is the right side here. I'd also
look at maybe the under because if Boston's not hitting
twenty in a game, likely not going to hit the
over in that one. Your dog of the night, I'm
calling it right now. Give me the Utah Jazz getting
points against Dallas. Who is Dallas to be laying points
against anybody? By the way, Utah Laurie Marken in at home,
much more viable here than any place else. Although they
just kicked the crap out of Memphis too, but that's
not that hard to do. How about the Land of
the Heat laying six at home against the Raptors. Both
these teams are on four game losing streaks. The Heat
very profitable to back at home. The Raptors, well, you know,
they still got some injuries. No RJ. Barrett available to
them here. It feels like the heat will likely run
away with this game. How about the Rockets heading to
Denver to take on the Nuggets. You know, the Nuggets
haven't played a home game in two weeks. Two weeks,
they haven't played a home game, and the last time
they were there they sucked. They won a home game
and for ever, I don't know what's going on with Denver.
Injuries have been a concern, but I like the Rockets
to be able to pull out the upset in Denver.
And I mentioned those Grizzlies for a reason. Although kind
of screwed up here now that BP actually picked the
Clippers on the money line, now I'm a little hesitant
to go in that direction. But listen, the Grizzlies have
no zach Edie and they welcome back John Morant. Is
it really a surprise they got their ass handed to
them by the Utah Jazz. No trade Jahn Morant and
avoid back into Grizzlies until they can get zach Edie
back Clippers.
Speaker 1: Is the only way I would look in that one. There, BP,
oh little agreement on the show here. Joe only took
us a few minutes there.
Speaker 2: That's nice.
Speaker 3: Don't make me regret this. Please, don't make a lot
of regret, I will say, and I already regret this. Good.
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Speaker 1: Let me take a hair it is that's very well clothed.
That's like, yeah, by the way, people like seem to
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it is real hair. I kind of like that. It
looks it looks sweet. You know what else has real hair?
Look at that Mary has Merril's got some hair too.
Speaker 1: I know he's from the Virginia area, but he looks
a lot like George Washington in that.
Speaker 3: It does look like where's the cherry tree? God, damn it,
damn yes?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 3: Wow, that was impressive.
Speaker 1: All right, Well do we head to the mail bag, Joe, Because,
like you, I perused the comments here on YouTube for
the best betting show ever, and I've I've been enjoying
them quite frankly during my time hosting the program, or
at least sitting in the host chair. You know, these
last several days and again, guys, I will be here
tomorrow and Wednesday, along with Joe and Art for that matter.
One of my favorite comments Joe as I went to
the meg was I was Joe, Well, of course it
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Speaker 2: I saw nine people agreed with that comment, by the way.
Speaker 3: That is excellent. Yes, I did enjoy the fact that
when I believe it was one person put in there,
he said, I sat down, and the minute that I
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Speaker 1: Somebody Joe Campbell says he would definitely drink beers with you.
Speaker 3: Joe.
Speaker 2: I bet he's.
Speaker 1: Got all the good stories. And I loved the witty
jabs he poked BP with.
Speaker 3: I love it, I love you, Yes, Yes, Also, they
loved your Valor track suit by the way, on last
week's show, they loved that it was it was nice.
Speaker 2: I wish I could say it was an actual Valor
track suit.
Speaker 1: It was just a Philadelphia Phillies zip up from rally out.
Speaker 3: And now for not Bill Keo. He had the over
under of me trolling you at two minutes into the show.
How in the hell did you set that line in
two minutes? And the fact that you thought we'd go
two minutes without me ripping BP is uh. Well, I
guess they give you a lot of credit, or maybe
they thought I would get soft here in my old age.
I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would have bet the under on two minutes. I
would have bet all of my Bundy I know better.
And somebody I can't see if this camera if this
is Thursday or final show. But they did note you
rolled your eyes at the sixteen second mark, so an
eye roll came before the troll. There you go, So
you were in a peak midweek form. That's gonna do
it for the show today. Unless if I've missed something, Joe,
I hope I've done okay.
Speaker 3: I think standard. Yes, you've been outstanding. Really, I mean
this is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's yeah, something positive. Okay, I'll take, Yeah,
I'll take Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, there we go.
Speaker 1: There is no tequila left in that bottle. I can
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Speaker 3: Ye, playoffs?
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