Speaker 1: This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 1: as weekends anymore. The fight's too big, there's too much
Speaker 1: to do. Sleep when we're dead. Hey, let's go to
Speaker 1: the vip line. Eli Bremmer kind enough to join us.
Speaker 1: He was elected the new GOP chair over the weekend.
Speaker 1: We'll get into the mechanics with Eli, but especially this
Speaker 1: special session of the State Central Committee. I think the
Speaker 1: vote was eighty eight percent Eli, ten percent to keep
Speaker 1: Dave Walls. But pardon me, Dave Walls. That is no
Speaker 1: reflection on you, my friend. Obviously, I was thinking of
Speaker 1: Dave Williams, and we'll talk a bit about him, and
Speaker 1: there is absolutely nothing in common between Dave Williams and
Speaker 1: Tim Walls. But I, for one, am so heartened to
Speaker 1: see the GOP writing its own ship here. And I
Speaker 1: understand we have so many good people who are kind
Speaker 1: enough to listen to this show who would disagree with
Speaker 1: me and that, and I don't mean to disrespect them,
Speaker 1: but I owe them the ultimate respect of honesty. And
Speaker 1: I think that you know, this is a cause greater
Speaker 1: than any of us individually. And the Colorado GOP under
Speaker 1: Dave's leadership, was helping the left and was leading us
Speaker 1: deeper and deeper into oblivion. And to see, you know,
Speaker 1: those on the Central Committee, many not all of course,
Speaker 1: come together and write the ship and fight to do
Speaker 1: that and fight through the courts to do it, gives
Speaker 1: me great hope for the future. But welcome to the show,
Speaker 1: and please walk us through what happened this weekend.
Speaker 2: Well, thanks Dan. This was an overwhelming show of support
Speaker 2: and unity and a desire by the Republican Central Committee
Speaker 2: to get back to the fundamentals of where we are
Speaker 2: as Republicans and helping our candidates win in November.
Speaker 3: That was what this was about.
Speaker 2: The Colorado GOP had gone completely off the rails that
Speaker 2: have been led there by its officers who were using
Speaker 2: it as their own personal financial flush fund. They were
Speaker 2: using it for their own political purposes. And then what's
Speaker 2: really sad is I spent yesterday on the phone with
Speaker 2: our candidates. I talked to Jeff Hurd. He said that
Speaker 2: was the first time they called run a Republican Party officer,
Speaker 2: I talked to him.
Speaker 3: I talked to Gabe Evan me same thing.
Speaker 4: Nope, and I talked to So.
Speaker 2: I taught the same thing from Gabe Evans. Then I
Speaker 2: called State Senator Paul Lundee. We are in so much trouble.
Speaker 2: If Paul Lundin, he's leading our effort to win seats
Speaker 2: in the State Senate. If we lose one seat in
Speaker 2: the State Senate, then we will be a micro minority
Speaker 2: in the State Senate like we are in the House,
Speaker 2: and the Democrats will be able to send legislation to
Speaker 2: the ballot, things like overturning pavor and issues that we,
Speaker 2: as conservatives would have would find appalling. We need to
Speaker 2: hold on to the State Senate. Paul Lundin told me
Speaker 2: last night when we talked, that was the first time
Speaker 2: anyone from party leadership, any of the party officers, had
Speaker 2: reached out and offered their and all three of them
Speaker 2: dan told me the same thing. I said, what's your
Speaker 2: number one need? They said, Eli, please keep us from
Speaker 2: having to look over our shoulders to see when we're
Speaker 2: going to get attacked by the state Party. Oh my lord,
Speaker 2: that's the situation.
Speaker 3: We've been in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is unimaginable, right, I mean, that is just
Speaker 1: unimaginable to me. And you step back and you look
Speaker 1: at how surreal what the GOP has just been through
Speaker 1: in Colorado is, and I'm just so glad again that
Speaker 1: the party righted its own ship. Now that brings us
Speaker 1: a light to the contention. As I understand it, published
Speaker 1: reports that Dave Williams is contesting this, and hopefully we
Speaker 1: can get Dave on the show to talk about it.
Speaker 1: We've had him on often in the past. I've enjoyed
Speaker 1: the conversations, whether we agreed or disagreed. But he's contesting
Speaker 1: this right and saying that this was not a legitimate
Speaker 1: meeting and that you're not the duly elected chair. How
Speaker 1: do you respond to that, Well, he.
Speaker 2: Said he's going to contest it. I don't think he
Speaker 2: has any legs to contest it. We held a meeting
Speaker 2: of the State Central Committee. He was thrown out of office.
Speaker 2: The meeting was properly called. He went to court, tried
Speaker 2: to he actually lied to the judge and this is
Speaker 2: all public record now and said that the State Central
Speaker 2: Committee had ruled that this. You know that there was
Speaker 2: no way to over to throw him out. Basically, the
Speaker 2: judge found out that he had been lied to overturned
Speaker 2: a restraining order that was improperly put in the first place,
Speaker 2: said you have a right to hold your meeting. We
Speaker 2: held our meeting and the vote was very decisive, you know,
Speaker 2: over ninety percent vote to remove. Davis is saying he's
Speaker 2: going to use try to use parliamentary tricks and stuff
Speaker 2: like that to try to hold onto power. But again,
Speaker 2: this is the problem. In the first place, he should
Speaker 2: have not been focused on this. He should have been
Speaker 2: focused on supporting Jeff Hurd and Gave Evans and Paul
Speaker 2: Lundin and Rosliglesi. If he'd been doing that, no one
Speaker 2: would have tried to remove him.
Speaker 1: Well, and critically hasn't the Republican Party. Now let's do
Speaker 1: a chair.
Speaker 5: Now I'm talking about nationally, the RNC, Well, they were.
Speaker 2: In process with that the NRCC. I actually just got
Speaker 2: off the phone with them. That was the first time
Speaker 2: the National Republican Congressional Committee, the official campaign armed for
Speaker 2: Congress of the RNC, had had a meeting with the
Speaker 2: Colorado Republican Party leadership. We already started talking about how
Speaker 2: we're going to coordinate together now to get Jeff Heard
Speaker 2: and Gabe Evans elected. They've already put out a public
Speaker 2: statement saying they acknowledge the legitimacy of the election, and
Speaker 2: we didn't waste one day. We're already working with them.
Speaker 2: I talked about where we can open up new field offices,
Speaker 2: So that's what we're doing right now. I'm sure the
Speaker 2: deposed leadership they're going to fight because this is they've
Speaker 2: been collecting big paychecks and sort of taking the donor
Speaker 2: money for themselves. But my team is already up and running.
Speaker 2: We're going to open up a new field office this
Speaker 2: afternoons here in Colorado Springs to conduct the work of
Speaker 2: the state party until we have taken final control of
Speaker 2: all of the assets from the deposed leadership.
Speaker 1: And Eli Bremmer, our guest, the new Colorado GOP chair.
Speaker 1: You've heard current leadership is contesting Eli's election over the weekend.
Speaker 1: But Eli, how does things work mechanically right now? For example,
Speaker 1: that the state GOP has office is right and who
Speaker 1: has keys to those who gets to go there?
Speaker 2: Well, we are in the process of dealing with all
Speaker 2: of the recovery of the assets from the former leadership.
Speaker 2: Those belong to the Colorado Republican Central Committee. They are
Speaker 2: not the personal assets of the former officers. So the
Speaker 2: Colorado Republican Central Committee met, they removed them from leadership.
Speaker 2: That being said, it's sort of like when you have
Speaker 2: a squatter. They can occupy your house without your authority
Speaker 2: for a little while, and it takes a little bit
Speaker 2: to go through the right and legal process to get
Speaker 2: them out. So we'll be going through that process and
Speaker 2: evicting what are now squatters from the Colorado Republican Party.
Speaker 1: Wow, and will this and I hate to get into
Speaker 1: the weeds on this, it's just fascinating, Tim will it
Speaker 1: Will it actually be an eviction process, a criminal process,
Speaker 1: a civil process. How do you go about if if
Speaker 1: the current chair and current well if Dave Williams and
Speaker 1: his team, which claimed they remain duly elected, if they
Speaker 1: literally refuse to leave, how do you force them.
Speaker 5: Out of there?
Speaker 2: Well, then we'll have this. We'll have the support of
Speaker 2: the courts because they've been removed rightfully by the by
Speaker 2: the Central Committee. There are other legal things that are
Speaker 2: that are happening in the background. The vice chair, the
Speaker 2: former vice chair, Hope Shuffleman, who had caused all sorts
Speaker 2: of problems, including promoting campaign material solds of Adam Frish,
Speaker 2: who's running against Jeff Hurd. Okay, she was putting Adam
Speaker 2: Frish ads on her on her social media channel as
Speaker 2: the vice chair of the party and saying he was
Speaker 2: better than our Republican candidate.
Speaker 3: You know, I as I understand it.
Speaker 2: I've heard she is now under investigation for criminal accent
Speaker 2: in her home county for filing false police reports to
Speaker 2: try to cover up some of the corruption that has
Speaker 2: been done inside the party. So these things will take
Speaker 2: a little bit of time. There's some strong indications that
Speaker 2: are the financial mismanagement at the party could be criminal
Speaker 2: in nature.
Speaker 3: I don't know yet. There are people that have brought.
Speaker 2: Up that the statements that the former chair has made
Speaker 2: publicly contravene federal election law. So we don't know because
Speaker 2: there's no transparency. If his statements were in fact accurate
Speaker 2: and he did break the law, we don't know.
Speaker 3: But this will be a bit of a process. But
Speaker 3: in the meantime, I have pledge to.
Speaker 2: Jeff Hurd and gave Evans personally that they will have
Speaker 2: the support of the party. They no longer need to
Speaker 2: look over their shoulder and see if they're going to
Speaker 2: get attacked. I'm making the same commitment to Paul Lundy
Speaker 2: and Rosaglise. The Colorado Republican Party as of today is
Speaker 2: back in business and we exist for one and only
Speaker 2: one reason, to get all of our candidates elected.
Speaker 1: Eli, appreciate you joining, and as I told Dave Williams before, Hey,
Speaker 1: it's an open door here, so anytime you want to
Speaker 1: pop on anything you want to talk about, please, you're
Speaker 1: welcome here and I very much look forward to the future.
Speaker 3: All right, Thanks Darren, appreciate your having me on.
Speaker 1: Thank you take care of that is Eli Bremer, Hey,
Speaker 1: want to get your reaction to these developments over the
Speaker 1: weekend with the Colorado GOP. My own sense of it
Speaker 1: just from the outside having read all the media reports
Speaker 1: followed the court battles, etc.
Speaker 5: Is that I think this is slam dunk.
Speaker 1: I think Eli is the duly elected chair and you
Speaker 1: have your new executives and it's full speed ahead for
Speaker 1: the Colorado GOP. And if Dave and others decide to
Speaker 1: fight that, you know that's their right and then they
Speaker 1: will eventually lose. But in the meantime, hopefully you would
Speaker 1: hope that they would agree at this point to step
Speaker 1: aside and put the larger cause ahead of those individual interests.
Speaker 1: But we will find out together. And as always, and Ryan,
Speaker 1: I know you're trying to reach Dave Kelly is we
Speaker 1: hope Dave will join us on the show. Always welcome here,
Speaker 1: whether we agree or disagree, and we've disagreed a lot lately.
Speaker 1: It's always good to have the conversation. You're on the
Speaker 1: Dankapla Show.
Speaker 6: And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 7: President Biden always said that he wants you to be
Speaker 7: the last person in that room, particularly for big decisions,
Speaker 7: just as he was for President Obama. He just made
Speaker 7: a really big decision Afghanistan. Yes, were you the last
Speaker 7: person in the room?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 7: And you feel comfortable?
Speaker 8: I do.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: Think about it three years ago today, one of the
Speaker 1: worst moments in American history, where thirteen of our best
Speaker 1: and bravest were needlessly senselessly slaughtered because of Joe Biden's
Speaker 1: weakness and his incompetence. And you just heard Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: She bought into it, she supported it, And this is
Speaker 1: where we find ourselves and it's so important obviously, I
Speaker 1: mean there's so much the Trump campaign has that they
Speaker 1: can legitimately hit Harris with between now an election day.
Speaker 1: There's never been a campaign where one side had more
Speaker 1: to use on the other and its actual video the
Speaker 1: words coming out of the opponent's mouth and being so
Speaker 1: obviously ludicrous and extreme, and we've been playing a lot
Speaker 1: of that on the show. You probably hear it in
Speaker 1: your sleep right now, but there are so many Americans
Speaker 1: in the swing states who have not heard it yet,
Speaker 1: and I think you're going to see it really start
Speaker 1: to sink in. I'm not saying that will be reflected
Speaker 1: by the polls necessarily, because I think many of the
Speaker 1: polls are just another tool that much of the media
Speaker 1: has to lie to the public with, and obviously much
Speaker 1: of the media at this point is willing to lie
Speaker 1: and protect and do whatever they have to do to
Speaker 1: try to defeat Trump and to elect Harris. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that Harris would have been their first pick. I
Speaker 1: think she would have been close to their last pick.
Speaker 1: But the media's obsession is defeating Trump because they hate them,
Speaker 1: and so they will lie to you in lots of
Speaker 1: different ways, including the poles all of them. There are
Speaker 1: some noble exceptions, and there are some who often mislead
Speaker 1: you but then occasionally speak the truth. And when they do,
Speaker 1: we want to call out that as well. Here is
Speaker 1: Jake Tapper doing that over the weekend with Senator Corey Booker.
Speaker 7: America has read it for a new chapter.
Speaker 5: Amer has read it for it better story, a new chapter.
Speaker 5: I mean, she's the incumbent vice president.
Speaker 2: Democrats have controlled the White House for twelve of the
Speaker 2: last sixteen years. How can Democrats talk about a new
Speaker 2: chapter turning the page?
Speaker 5: You guys are the ones writing the book.
Speaker 9: Well, you know that that's not true, Jake, because you
Speaker 9: know politics like I do. Right now, we see the
Speaker 9: maga Republicans in Congress killing all kind of pragmatic policies
Speaker 9: that we need to get done.
Speaker 1: No, Tapper maator's point. Booker did not have any kind
Speaker 1: of decent response. And this is where I come back
Speaker 1: to being very confident that in the end, the people
Speaker 1: who decide this election, and it's not America, right, it's
Speaker 1: the six swing states, And it's a relatively small number
Speaker 1: of folks on committeds within the six swing states that in.
Speaker 5: The end, by election day, they're going to know all of.
Speaker 1: These truths, and they already know that that Harris has
Speaker 1: been in power. Now, in fairness, they're assuming that Harris
Speaker 1: had no impact, but they're also going to know she
Speaker 1: had no impact because she just isn't that capable. She
Speaker 1: just isn't that accomplished. And so by election day, I
Speaker 1: think this is one thing you can go to bed
Speaker 1: at night and you can sleep very peacefully just knowing
Speaker 1: that by election day, the people who are going to
Speaker 1: decide this election, at least in the numbers that will
Speaker 1: decide it, are going to know all these things that
Speaker 1: you want them to know.
Speaker 5: And then do they do what you and I want
Speaker 5: them to do.
Speaker 1: We can't control that, but I fully expect they will,
Speaker 1: and I think at this point the Democrats expect that
Speaker 1: they will height five five for zero five eight two
Speaker 1: five to five the number. Hey, what do you make
Speaker 1: of President Trump now talking about, you know, applying that
Speaker 1: the September ten debate on ABC may not go forward
Speaker 1: because Kamala Harris's camp trying to change the rules and
Speaker 1: ABC so obviously biased against him, and there can be
Speaker 1: no question about that, right, So do you think Trump
Speaker 1: should go forward with this debate if any of the
Speaker 1: agreed upon rules are changed. Now, one thing that I'm
Speaker 1: a little baffled by is exactly what rule changes is
Speaker 1: the Harris camp after of course you've already probably heard
Speaker 1: the one is that they want the mics to be
Speaker 1: opened up. Remember Biden had insisted the mics be muted
Speaker 1: when it's not your turn to speak. But now the
Speaker 1: Harris camp wants them opened up because obviously they think
Speaker 1: it will make Trump look bad, that he won't be
Speaker 1: able to control himself. Trump camp says, we want the
Speaker 1: rules as agreed upon. Now, I've seen other unconfirmed reports. Now, Ryan,
Speaker 1: the Fountain, source of all knowledge, at least in this studio,
Speaker 1: may have more detail. I've seen other reports that know
Speaker 1: the Harris camp wants wants she and Trump to be
Speaker 1: sitting down at a table able to use notes. Have
Speaker 1: those reports been confirmed or is that speculation?
Speaker 10: Multiple sources that are outlets I would trust that are
Speaker 10: not right leaning, all saying that there are three adjustments
Speaker 10: that the Harris campaign would like to make, and that
Speaker 10: would be to your point. So they're seated and the
Speaker 10: one foot differential in height is not highlighted during the debate,
Speaker 10: so they're not standing at podiums.
Speaker 6: That's one two that she has access to.
Speaker 10: I don't know what kind of notes or what the
Speaker 10: level of detail that would be, but that would be
Speaker 10: part B. And then the most controversial one to this
Speaker 10: point is they want to undo the mike muting because
Speaker 10: while that was beneficial they thought to Joe Biden, although
Speaker 10: it wasn't, they.
Speaker 5: Want Kamala to have her.
Speaker 10: I'm speaking moment with Donald Trump, so they want those micros.
Speaker 5: Right well, listen to me.
Speaker 1: If there's any one of these in underline if that
Speaker 1: Trump should turn down the debate over and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he should, I'm still working it through in my head.
Speaker 1: It's this seated with notes garbage. Wait a second, this
Speaker 1: is American tradition. You stand up for debates, You stand
Speaker 1: up to your opponent, You stand across from your opponent,
Speaker 1: and you.
Speaker 5: Look her in the eye, you look him in the eye.
Speaker 1: And if truly and I underline the f because I
Speaker 1: haven't seen formal confirmation on this, but but if they
Speaker 1: want those kind of changes, then I think you have
Speaker 1: to give some serious thought to just draw on the
Speaker 1: line and say no, you agreed to the terms and
Speaker 1: we are not making those changes. That's ridiculous. If somebody
Speaker 1: isn't able to stand there, stand on their own two feet.
Speaker 1: This is a symbolic thing as well as a physical thing.
Speaker 1: If somebody isn't able to stand on their own two
Speaker 1: feet without notes and look you in the eye and
Speaker 1: debate you, they should not be president of the United States.
Speaker 1: That should be an automatic disqualifier.
Speaker 5: Can I add something to me that's far more important
Speaker 5: than whether MIC's are muted?
Speaker 1: And I understand President Trump just came out and said
Speaker 1: turn the MIC's on.
Speaker 5: They should be on the whole time.
Speaker 10: He did say that, but he needs to hammer this
Speaker 10: point home, Dan and bring it right back and say,
Speaker 10: is Kamala Harris going to demand with Vladimir Putin or
Speaker 10: Jiji paying that they be seated for their meals?
Speaker 5: Now That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: That's the one that I would consider drawing the line
Speaker 1: on the other one, I would say the same thing
Speaker 1: to President Trump. Any candidate who can't deal with an
Speaker 1: open mic for ninety minutes shouldn't be president. And I
Speaker 1: think President Trump can and has in the past, dealt
Speaker 1: with an open mic well for ninety minutes, and so yeah, no,
Speaker 1: but but should he And I'd love to hear from
Speaker 1: people on this. We won't have time to really get
Speaker 1: to the depths of it right now. We're going to
Speaker 1: have a guest out of the break, Dick Wadams is
Speaker 1: going to join us to talk about the change in
Speaker 1: GOP leadership. But after that, I want to get into
Speaker 1: this with you. Let's say, if the reports are true
Speaker 1: and Harris wants to be seated with notes at that point,
Speaker 1: should Trump walk away from the debate if she won't
Speaker 1: agree to the original rules, which is like every other
Speaker 1: important debate in America for first graders. If first graders
Speaker 1: are doing a little debate for class president, they're standing up.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they have notes or not, but
Speaker 1: the person running for president should not have notes. So
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Speaker 11: Today, our Pajunior is to spend in his campaign endorsing Trump.
Speaker 11: Kennedy telling reporters that Trump had asked him to quote
Speaker 11: enlist him in his administration. Now, the latest swing state
Speaker 11: polls show Kennedy with five or six percent of the vote,
Speaker 11: And so when you think about it overall, you may say, well,
Speaker 11: that's not a big deal. Actually, if that is the
Speaker 11: case in swing states, it is huge. It is everything.
Speaker 11: It is more than the margin between Harris and Trump
Speaker 11: in some of those same states.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's Aaron Burnett on CNN. I think they
Speaker 1: have a lot to worry about on the left. We'll
Speaker 1: get to more of that in a bit. Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: really happy to welcome Dick Wadhams back to the show.
Speaker 1: We had Eli Bremer on at the top. He is
Speaker 1: the new GOP party chair in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 1: I know there are plenty of folks who disagree with that,
Speaker 1: starting with Dave William, party chair, who we invited on
Speaker 1: and he declined today. And to Dave contending he remains
Speaker 1: party chair. But a huge step over the weekend. And
Speaker 1: those who gathered and to those from the Central Committee
Speaker 1: who gathered an elected elive Bremmer, they had to go
Speaker 1: to court, they had to go to court and win
Speaker 1: the right to go have this meeting. They've proven they're
Speaker 1: willing to go to court to pursue this, and so
Speaker 1: I expect that they will continue to prevail there. Let's
Speaker 1: go to the VIP line, Richard. Welcome back to the
Speaker 1: dan Kaplas show.
Speaker 12: Hi Dan, nice to be with you.
Speaker 5: Well, thank you, And I.
Speaker 1: Know you're happy about what happened over the weekend because
Speaker 1: you've been speaking very openly about it and leading toward
Speaker 1: this day for a long time. So Dick, please give
Speaker 1: us your current reflections, but also take us inside what happened.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 12: I wasn't there, Dan, but I think it's pretty clear
Speaker 12: that the Colorado Republican State Central Committee just had its
Speaker 12: fill of Dave William's antics and abuse of power. And
Speaker 12: when you get more than eighty five percent of the
Speaker 12: vote in a vote like that, I mean I think
Speaker 12: it was a clear repudiation of Stave Williams. And there
Speaker 12: was also an endorsement of Eli Brammer. Hengl likes a
Speaker 12: good man. He will do a good job in this truncated.
Speaker 3: Time.
Speaker 12: He will be a stay chair before the carroad before
Speaker 12: the election in November. But it's imperative that Williams be
Speaker 12: removed now. Remember no law, no by law, no ethic,
Speaker 12: no election law minds Dave Williams. He's proven that he
Speaker 12: thinks he can do whatever he wants whenever it wants,
Speaker 12: and so I fully expect him to refuse to leave
Speaker 12: the office and it will probably take action by the
Speaker 12: Republican National Committee for that sort of itself.
Speaker 1: Out and what that looked like, Dick, Is there a
Speaker 1: process for the RNC now to address this. I know
Speaker 1: I saw some media reports over the weekend that there's
Speaker 1: been an immediate statement from at least some branch of
Speaker 1: the National Republicans.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it was very interesting and also very important that
Speaker 12: the National Republican Congressional Committee, which is the campaign entity
Speaker 12: that focuses on races for the US House of Representatives,
Speaker 12: immediately recognize Eli Rimmers the new chairman in Colorado. They
Speaker 12: have a vested interests in having a strong state chair
Speaker 12: and strong state party because there are two seats that
Speaker 12: they desperately want to win. They want to retain the
Speaker 12: third district in Western Colorado with Jeff Hurd, and they
Speaker 12: want to win and then see a Democratic incumbent in
Speaker 12: the eighth district with they gave Evans over a congress
Speaker 12: woman at Caraveo, and so they really need to have
Speaker 12: a state party they can work with, and they came
Speaker 12: out right after the vote on Saturday night. I got
Speaker 12: to tell you, Dan, I think the RNC will have to.
Speaker 3: Settle this issue.
Speaker 12: There is a precedent for it. A year ago in Michigan,
Speaker 12: a Dave Williams white character got elected up there in Michigan,
Speaker 12: and the Michigan Republican Party took a vote and the
Speaker 12: same thing. They kicked her out of office, and they
Speaker 12: elected a former congressman as the new state chairman in Michigan,
Speaker 12: and she refused to leave the person who got kicked out,
Speaker 12: and so the Republican National Committee had to settle the issue,
Speaker 12: and they did. They ruled in favor of the former
Speaker 12: congressman to be the state chairman. So based on that,
Speaker 12: I think the same scenario could be happening here in
Speaker 12: Colorado now that a new chairman has been elected.
Speaker 1: And Dick Wawie, have you give us your take, if
Speaker 1: you would, on CD three and eight, how you think
Speaker 1: those races are going to go as well as the
Speaker 1: current state of the presidential.
Speaker 12: I think that.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 12: Jeff Hurd is doing great, running a great campaign in
Speaker 12: the third district. Adam Frish, the guy who almost knocked
Speaker 12: off the Lauren Bobert, a year ago he or two
Speaker 12: years ago. He's got a lot of money. But the
Speaker 12: third district really is a Republican district. Jeff Herd matches
Speaker 12: the district really well. Grand Junction Native. He's a lawyer
Speaker 12: and his clients have been the natural resource and water
Speaker 12: clients on the Western Swope. And I got to tell you,
Speaker 12: I think that Jeff has been a great job as
Speaker 12: a candidate and his campaign in the eighth district, Gave
Speaker 12: Evans is just.
Speaker 8: An outstanding candidate.
Speaker 12: Former Army helicopter pilot in Afghanistan, police officer, Gave is
Speaker 12: a really articulate young state representative. He had already he
Speaker 12: did great things. And it's important to note that the
Speaker 12: wonderful Dave Williams actually opposed both of these candidates in
Speaker 12: their primaries when he took sides primaries. And I will
Speaker 12: tell you, if Ron Hanks had defeated Jeff Hurd in
Speaker 12: the third district, that district would be off the table.
Speaker 12: We wouldn't even be talking about it because Ron Hanks
Speaker 12: was embarrassing and he would not even be in the game.
Speaker 12: Same thing in the in the in the eighth district,
Speaker 12: doctor Janika Joshi would not be and we're close to
Speaker 12: being able to win in the eighth district. So despite
Speaker 12: Dave Williams, we have two great candidates, both of whom
Speaker 12: can win those tough seats.
Speaker 5: Dick Adams our guests, turning to the presidential what's.
Speaker 1: The state of that race in Colorado, let's say the
Speaker 1: swing states.
Speaker 12: Okay, well, it's pretty clear Democrats are on a high
Speaker 12: right now. I mean, early Poland shows that Kamala Harris
Speaker 12: came out of the national Convention with a kind of
Speaker 12: a thought of the momentum behind her.
Speaker 3: But Dan, it's going to be a close selection.
Speaker 12: It's going to be fought in those seven swing states.
Speaker 12: The polling will be close, and it's anybody's game right now.
Speaker 12: September tenth debate, which I think is going to happen,
Speaker 12: although Trump seems to be saying he might not show
Speaker 12: up now or might not want to do it.
Speaker 3: I don't know what he'll do.
Speaker 12: But September tenth debate, and then I think there should
Speaker 12: be more debates after that. The American people need to
Speaker 12: get a good look at these two candidates and see
Speaker 12: what they're all about.
Speaker 1: Now it tack in terms of the debate, I think
Speaker 1: what's going on right now with President MP implying that
Speaker 1: he may not show up if the Harris camp changes
Speaker 1: the rules. First, I think one of the things Trump
Speaker 1: has done brilliantly in the past is just keep people
Speaker 1: talking about Trump. There's been so much focus on Harris,
Speaker 1: you know, change the channel, shift that the focus. But
Speaker 1: let's say the Harris camp. I don't know if these
Speaker 1: reports are true, but let's say the Harris camp is
Speaker 1: insisting on changing the rules so that the candidates sit
Speaker 1: down and have notes. At that point, if it's your
Speaker 1: candidate opposing Harris, do you go along with that?
Speaker 12: Yeah, Dan, I guess I don't think it makes any difference.
Speaker 12: They're going to quibble over the details.
Speaker 3: But they sit.
Speaker 2: Down notes, no notes my spot, Mike Old, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just I just don't think.
Speaker 12: It makes much difference. And and yes, and I think
Speaker 12: this is all about Trump trying to get some attention.
Speaker 12: And listen, she's doing the same thing. These These are
Speaker 12: two candidates who are both trying to make the other
Speaker 12: look bad in.
Speaker 5: Terms of debates.
Speaker 3: They just both need to.
Speaker 2: Show up and debate. That's how I do it.
Speaker 12: I just I just find these I find these debates
Speaker 12: over debates just kind of frustrating. I found them so
Speaker 12: when I was running campaigns. Yeah, and I find it
Speaker 12: so now watching this presidential race.
Speaker 1: And to me, this really is important because you know,
Speaker 1: if and I don't know if these reports are true,
Speaker 1: but if the Harris camp is unwilling to just stand
Speaker 1: there next to Trump, I'd be very hesitant to agree
Speaker 1: to that change of rules because I think that physical
Speaker 1: presence matter matters. I think it matters in leading a nation.
Speaker 1: I think it matters in standing up to enemies. I
Speaker 1: think it matters on the world stage. And if she's
Speaker 1: not able to stand up on her own two feet
Speaker 1: and without notes, look them in the eye and debate them,
Speaker 1: I think the American people need to know that.
Speaker 5: Oh that's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 12: I just they understand. I mean, I can't remember. I
Speaker 12: can't remember a president where the candidates were sitting down.
Speaker 12: Maybe there must have been some I don't know.
Speaker 1: About a VP debate a long time ago, like Paul
Speaker 1: Ryan and somebody. But Richard, grateful for the time today.
Speaker 1: Hope we can get together off.
Speaker 5: And this is going to be an amazing two months.
Speaker 5: It is, my friend. Well, you take care, we'll talk soon.
Speaker 5: I think that is Dick Watdams kind enough to join us.
Speaker 1: Hey, want to come back. I can get your take
Speaker 1: on that. The debate over debates. If the Hairs camp
Speaker 1: is truly trying to change the rules so that she
Speaker 1: gets to sit down and have notes, would you advise
Speaker 1: President Trump to walk away from the debate over that.
Speaker 1: You're on the Dan Kaplas.
Speaker 6: Show and now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 5: You also want to change the rules? You know, the
Speaker 5: deal is we keep the same rules.
Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden they want to make a
Speaker 2: change of the rules because she.
Speaker 5: Can't answer questions.
Speaker 2: Why doesn't she do a couple of question answer?
Speaker 5: Why does she do something like I'm doing right now?
Speaker 5: She can't talk. We can't have another dummy as the president.
Speaker 5: We cannot have a dummy.
Speaker 2: And the people from Vietnam agree.
Speaker 5: With that because.
Speaker 1: We can't have another dummy as the president. So what
Speaker 1: do you think about that? From President Trump today? Eight
Speaker 1: five five forour zero five eight two five five the number.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the Infuego phone lines as we talk about, Hey,
Speaker 1: should Trump back out of the debate if the Harris
Speaker 1: camp changes the rules? Everybody's agreed on the CNN rules
Speaker 1: for the September ten debate on ABC. And according to
Speaker 1: the Trump camp, and I'm quoting here, enough with the games.
Speaker 1: We accepted the ABC debate under the exact same terms
Speaker 1: as the CNN debate. The Harris camp, after having already
Speaker 1: agreed to the CNN rules, asked for a seated debate
Speaker 1: with notes and opening statements. We said, no changes to
Speaker 1: the agreed upon rules. Jason Miller, Senior advisor for Trump.
Speaker 1: And then it goes on from there. Let's go to
Speaker 1: the phone lines. Let's start with Rick in Boone. You're
Speaker 1: on the Dan Kapli Show.
Speaker 4: Welcome Towdy. Hey, Rick, I say equivaling, just get on
Speaker 4: with the debate, so you would agree she if she
Speaker 4: if she goes equivalent, she looks more like what there
Speaker 4: was that Moss get close to negotiating the deal.
Speaker 1: And then good, Rick, appreciate the call. Thank you always
Speaker 1: great to hear from Boom. Let's go to a beautiful Boulder, Colorado.
Speaker 1: Can I imagine Thursday night up there, It's going to
Speaker 1: be so exciting Opening night, Shane. Welcome to the Dan
Speaker 1: Kapla Show.
Speaker 3: Hey, Darren, thanks earlier show. Thank you just just kind
Speaker 3: of quick comment about the same notes. It just try
Speaker 3: to put some dirt my shorts on what is notes?
Speaker 3: I mean, is it digital or is it a piece
Speaker 3: of paper with a pencil?
Speaker 5: A great question.
Speaker 3: If it's digital, she's gonna have a bunch of people
Speaker 3: backstage free there answer.
Speaker 5: Let's assume it's paper. Would you would you agree to
Speaker 5: that change of terms.
Speaker 3: I don't see any problems with paper and a pencil,
Speaker 3: but I really doubt that's what they're talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it to me, Shane, it's an enormous it's
Speaker 1: an enormous concession if you allow her to sit down
Speaker 1: and if you allow her to have notes. Somebody wants
Speaker 1: to be president of the United States, you've got to
Speaker 1: be able to stand up, stand up without notes and
Speaker 1: make your case.
Speaker 5: And Dick Wadham's at a good point in the last segment.
Speaker 1: Can you think of a single presidential debate where they
Speaker 1: have not been standing and where they have been allowed notes?
Speaker 5: I can't think of one.
Speaker 3: No, it does kind of suck the wind out of
Speaker 3: the debate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, thanks man, appreciate the call very much. Now listen,
Speaker 1: I get I can think of some of those town
Speaker 1: hall formats and the guy or Gal can sit on
Speaker 1: the stool while the other one's talking, unless they want
Speaker 1: to follow him around. And I saw a clip of
Speaker 1: Kennedy Nixon. I thought they just had that one iconic debate,
Speaker 1: but I saw another clip where they were seated in chairs.
Speaker 1: But to me, no, you've got to agree to those
Speaker 1: original terms. Now, should Trump walk away? Should Trump walk
Speaker 1: away from the debate? If Harris insists on that change,
Speaker 1: it should never even come to that. ABC should say
Speaker 1: no to Harris. ABC should say we have an agreement
Speaker 1: on terms. No, Kamala Harris. Obviously, ABC extraordinarily biased in
Speaker 1: Harris's favor, and Peblo, you're on the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 4: Welcome Dan.
Speaker 13: So what would the impact be if Harris that down
Speaker 13: during the debate and Donald Trump stood.
Speaker 1: Up, Well, she wouldn't have anywhere to sit. I mean,
Speaker 1: if she sat on the floor, the race is over, right.
Speaker 13: Well, I was just thinking standing up presents a much
Speaker 13: more professional position. And so if she's sitting and he's standing,
Speaker 13: who who gets the upper hand?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 5: But isn't that the point?
Speaker 13: Oh?
Speaker 1: I see guy, you're saying, Okay, let's say they agree
Speaker 1: to the change, and then Harris is sitting there at
Speaker 1: the designated chair and table, and Trump just stands anyway.
Speaker 5: See, I like the way you think. Man, that's good
Speaker 5: creative thinking right there. Well, that's good creative thinking.
Speaker 13: But that might think, I think it tells more about
Speaker 13: the professionalism and of the one who's standing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, great call, guy, You.
Speaker 13: Create, You create a better impression when somebody approaches you
Speaker 13: if you stand their hands.
Speaker 5: Amen to that great point. Guy, What do you think
Speaker 5: of that? Ryan?
Speaker 1: Let's say that ABC, which at this point I think
Speaker 1: is deeply in Kamala Harris's pocket. Let's say that ABC says, Okay,
Speaker 1: anything you want, Kamala, and they provide these chairs and tables.
Speaker 1: Should Trump stand anyway?
Speaker 6: That'd be a very Trump thing to do, or.
Speaker 1: Interesting from God. And listen if if the Trump camp
Speaker 1: is right, and that's a change that Harris is after,
Speaker 1: here's why right, Because the presence presence matters. You know
Speaker 1: this from your everyday life. Presence matters to leadership. Presence
Speaker 1: matters in foreign affairs. Presence matters, and the presence on
Speaker 1: that stage of Donald Trump and Kamala Harris side by
Speaker 1: side where everybody can compare for themselves. You know they
Speaker 1: could university of my eyeballs. The greatest study ever done,
Speaker 1: and they can see that difference. And it's not always
Speaker 1: just based on stature, not always just based on stature.
Speaker 1: There's much more that goes along with it, but statute
Speaker 1: part of it. Dean and Arvada, welcome to the show.
Speaker 8: Hey, Dan, I totally agree with you your point. They
Speaker 8: manage just ever a teleprompter because they're already going to
Speaker 8: feed her the answers to the questions. You know as
Speaker 8: well just say, okay, you get your teleprompter, because this
Speaker 8: is like taking cheap notes through a map. I mean,
Speaker 8: this is ridiculous, isn't that?
Speaker 4: Is that what your Dean?
Speaker 3: Would you have Trump?
Speaker 1: Would you have Trump walk away over this rule cheap?
Speaker 1: You've got about ten seconds you would.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, You've got to put it. Yeah, you've got to
Speaker 8: put a line down and say, look, we're already on
Speaker 8: off a big bias uh ab totally rump and I've got.
Speaker 5: To hit this heartbreak. Thank you Dean for that called.
Speaker 1: Deane says no Trump should walk away if Harris insists
Speaker 1: on a chair and a table and other rule changes,
Speaker 1: what do you think can then? So much more to
Speaker 1: cover here on the Dan Kapitala show