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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ripped up.

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<v Speaker 2>News, need advice?

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<v Speaker 1>Who you don't have? Come run in just as fast

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<v Speaker 1>as we can.

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<v Speaker 3>Shooter's gonna help Come.

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<v Speaker 2>Dix is the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 4>No Tom Martine, Hello, Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>This is, as I say every day, the only show

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<v Speaker 4>that it's kind of anywhere in the universe.

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<v Speaker 5>We invented it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been the longest running radio show in history with well,

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<v Speaker 4>not in history, I'm sorry, the longest running radio show

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<v Speaker 4>with the same hosts currently on the air. Not in history.

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<v Speaker 4>There have been shows running longer. And by the way, welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>We love having you. We want you to call with

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<v Speaker 4>problems that tick you off and things that make you

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<v Speaker 4>tick everyday life. I'm bringing in the studio now for

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<v Speaker 4>those streaming you'll see a bunch of ugly faces.

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<v Speaker 6>There.

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<v Speaker 4>We have our co host Mark and I don't really

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<v Speaker 4>like the word code it denotes well, I want to

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<v Speaker 4>say sub co host subcome subco and then sub sub

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<v Speaker 4>and then and then sub subco would be John Fuller.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no god, I don't want to And then we

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<v Speaker 4>have our guest who elevates, who gets elevated to the top,

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<v Speaker 4>and that is Brook and she is with red rocks,

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<v Speaker 4>roof and solar.

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<v Speaker 7>So we have a full house there, you staff, everyone, Doc,

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<v Speaker 7>you skipped over Sus. You skipped over Kelly, you skipped over.

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<v Speaker 5>Sh I don't see Sus.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't see Sus in the studio, but I see

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<v Speaker 4>I see Deputy Doc, and hey Sus and hey Kelly.

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<v Speaker 5>And then we have on the board is it dragon?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I didn't hear I haven't heard Shannon's loud mouth,

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<v Speaker 4>So what do you say? We uh, we go to

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<v Speaker 4>the phones and see what's on your mind, and go

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<v Speaker 4>to the news and see what's on everybody's mind. And

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<v Speaker 4>they're there. There's a lot to talk about today, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>now people my gosh, and Mark of course says, I

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<v Speaker 4>always read too much one side not the other.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm looking all over there are there is an uproar.

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<v Speaker 4>There's an uproar over the EPA saying massive deregulations of stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>and we are going to unleash the power of America

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<v Speaker 4>and we're not going to worry about climate change. Basically,

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<v Speaker 4>if it burns, burn it, if it smells, smell it,

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<v Speaker 4>and if it emits smoke, smoke it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 4>They're saying that the regulations for too long have stifled

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<v Speaker 4>the environment. Not the environment, but stifled economic growth. Then

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<v Speaker 4>there are those on the other side decrying this, saying,

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<v Speaker 4>oh my god, oh my god, everything that President Biden

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<v Speaker 4>has done to protect our environment is being torn down.

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<v Speaker 5>We are surely on our way to destruction.

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<v Speaker 4>And I bring up this movie because David Sirota was

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<v Speaker 4>once a talk show hosts here. He didn't last long.

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<v Speaker 4>He had a liberal bend, and he was He's quite intelligent.

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<v Speaker 4>He wrote that that play that I think he was

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<v Speaker 4>nominated for an Academy Award. Don't look up about this

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<v Speaker 4>meteor heading toward Earth, And the whole idea was it

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<v Speaker 4>was all about climate change. In other words, if you

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<v Speaker 4>ignore it, it's still coming and there's nothing you can

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<v Speaker 4>do about it. I don't know if you've noticed this either,

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<v Speaker 4>but especially Al Roker on the Today Show never gives

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<v Speaker 4>a forecast ever without some dire message.

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<v Speaker 5>If it's really.

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<v Speaker 4>Extra warm global warming, if it's extra cold climate change,

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<v Speaker 4>it's if there fires climate change, if there's floods climate change,

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<v Speaker 4>Everything everything is climate change. I've said this before. You

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<v Speaker 4>can really sum up everything. If you want to blame everything,

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<v Speaker 4>you can blame everything on three things.

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<v Speaker 5>What are they? Climate change? What's the other one? Come on?

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<v Speaker 5>The R word?

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<v Speaker 2>Trump?

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<v Speaker 5>Racism and Trump. Those are the three.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you want somebody to blame for anything or

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<v Speaker 4>something to blame, it's it's first, climate, it's become. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>they're all the same. There's not one second to third

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<v Speaker 4>or fourth? All right, or excuse me, first, second, and

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<v Speaker 4>third we have Trump, climate change, and racism, so any

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<v Speaker 4>one of those can be blamed for anything. Now, on

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<v Speaker 4>a serious note, I'm getting some questions about Tom.

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<v Speaker 5>Does this mean the.

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<v Speaker 4>Shift to EV's will be lightened up or do you

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<v Speaker 5>What do you guys think about that?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, EV push, I take climate out of it. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't care about anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>They're quiet, right, They're faster.

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<v Speaker 7>Than anything else. The battery powers better, and they drive themselves.

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<v Speaker 7>So that's what I love. I love them. Now, Mark,

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<v Speaker 7>they don't all drive themselves. Well, that's true, the Tesla testless.

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<v Speaker 4>No, really, it's the only one that truly drives itself.

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<v Speaker 4>And what do you think, John, are you ready for

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<v Speaker 4>an EV No, sir, no, we just can't tell me

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<v Speaker 4>why seriously, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't work for my needs. And you know what

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<v Speaker 2>does that mean? Well, what does that mean? You don't

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<v Speaker 2>try that much? Well, we do. We actually drive across

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, they're just not appropriate for that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of an application. I mean, I you know, it just

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't work. And in the in the environment okay that

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<v Speaker 2>I keep those vehicles, they're not you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a very good environment. So it just doesn't work for us.

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<v Speaker 2>We do have a hybrid, but it's not a plug

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<v Speaker 2>in hybrid. It's it just kind of does its own thing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't like hybrids. Then you have two systems

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, when are they going to come out with

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<v Speaker 4>the big motor homes and over the road trucks electric?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean really, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean market are you seen on the motor home front?

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<v Speaker 4>Are there any EV motor homes?

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<v Speaker 7>I can't imagine what the weight would come in. That

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<v Speaker 7>would be just that'd be unbelievable. You take something like

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<v Speaker 5>You could do away with a series.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well, I mean come on, you're still gonna have

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<v Speaker 7>fifty thousand pounds plus whatever that battery is. I mean

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<v Speaker 7>you could be I mean you could be eighty ninety

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<v Speaker 7>one hundred thousand pounds. I don't even know if you

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<v Speaker 2>But they do have some electric semis out now. But

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't think the range is super high.

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<v Speaker 2>And the deal with an RV is you know you

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see that technology being embraced, but you can't.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>For everything else, you're seeing electric come along, like boat

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<v Speaker 8>You know, like say, ranges, range is the main fact.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, I mean you're not coming through doc.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah no, he yeah, that's a good thing. By the way,

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<v Speaker 4>Hold on a second. I was just kidding. Here's what

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<v Speaker 4>I see. These are the road trucks.

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<v Speaker 5>If you if you picture these big, these big.

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<v Speaker 4>Cabs, and then you have the trailer, you have the tractor,

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<v Speaker 4>you have the trailer on the tractor. I would like

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<v Speaker 4>to I envision under the hood or behind the sleeper, there.

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<v Speaker 5>Is a pod that can be exchanged.

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<v Speaker 4>In other words, they're universal battery pods that you disconnect

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<v Speaker 5>They can do that.

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<v Speaker 4>But wouldn't that be good for cars too, if there

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<v Speaker 7>If I don't know, see, those superchargers are going to

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<v Speaker 2>A battery, right, really really yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean I can get taken two hundred miles in

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<v Speaker 7>about seven minutes. I mean that's pretty impressive. No, that

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<v Speaker 7>really is impressive. That really really is impressive. And then

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<v Speaker 7>I hear there's going to be highways eventually with induction.

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<v Speaker 7>So when you're driving your charging or solar, Why why

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<v Speaker 7>doesn't Tesla have roof solar? I got it would take,

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<v Speaker 7>it would take That's a good question for Brook though,

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<v Speaker 7>But I mean, really, how long would it take to

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not talking I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>Talking about a supercharger, but if it was constantly Brook,

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<v Speaker 4>if a nice roofline was and the hoodline, let's just

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<v Speaker 4>say Bill, it had some kind of some kind of

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<v Speaker 4>photo will take covering the whole thing. If it's always outside,

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't it it would always be charging, right.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I mean I think that there's some really cool

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<v Speaker 9>is actually somebody that patented a way to put solar

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<v Speaker 10>Instead of you asphalt roads, we would use solar panel.

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<v Speaker 9>Roads and they would connect into it, and then that

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<v Speaker 9>then also different charging stations a lot more frequently. So

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<v Speaker 9>there's some really interesting ideas out there right now for

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<v Speaker 7>Right now, if you took a solar panel, a big

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<v Speaker 7>of a car, I bet it would take five days

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, yeah, but Mark, but if you once you're charged, though,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about keeping it, like you know, not necessarily

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<v Speaker 5>For sure, it has to. It would have to.

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<v Speaker 9>They're solar panels right now that you can put on

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<v Speaker 9>your car that are foldable and they like flex to

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<v Speaker 10>If you would want to.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, you know, and we're not talking about ugging things up,

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<v Speaker 4>but some you know, someday, and I predict.

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<v Speaker 5>This, and obviously it's not a big prediction.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to look around and we're not gonna believe

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<v Speaker 4>that we've had all of this free solar energy bombarding

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<v Speaker 4>the earth for thousands and thousands of years and never

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<v Speaker 5>We every single day.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know how much free energy is just falling

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<v Speaker 4>upon us from the sun? I mean, think about it,

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<v Speaker 4>if just harnessing it, you know, I mean, we have

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<v Speaker 4>more than enough sunlight for almost anything we need to do,

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<v Speaker 4>and when you throw storage into it, we really have

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<v Speaker 4>the technology now to do it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just very expensive, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>Anyway, on that note, just real quick, I looked it

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<v Speaker 7>up and basically, let's not forget. I mean, Tesla owns

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<v Speaker 7>an entire you know, solar division, So if anybody's going

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<v Speaker 7>to throw it on their car, you would assume it's

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<v Speaker 7>going to be Tesla because they own both companies, or

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<v Speaker 7>it's all the same company. But it says they don't

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<v Speaker 4>All right, So Mark, going into this break, give me

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<v Speaker 7>Well, an update on it. I mean it's great. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hey Tom

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<v Speaker 4>Martinez here three oh three seven to one three talks

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<v Speaker 4>seven one three A two five five. For those streaming,

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<v Speaker 4>the studio. There, there you go, There you go, John

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<v Speaker 4>full I'm glad you got dressed up for us today.

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<v Speaker 5>And then uh Brooks got her classic blue.

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<v Speaker 5>So let's deputy doc.

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<v Speaker 4>I won't even comments at least uh you're there and

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<v Speaker 5>No, you're not.

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<v Speaker 4>You're kind of in it, but I can I can

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<v Speaker 4>change that anyway. Three oh three seven one three eight

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<v Speaker 4>two five five. On a serious note, though, truly, if

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<v Speaker 4>I do have some texts I'm going to get to

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<v Speaker 4>personal jury John Fuller. They want to know if dash

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<v Speaker 4>cams actually can hold up for court and how can

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<v Speaker 4>people know that? You know, how do you make them

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<v Speaker 4>valid or can you actually introduce them as evidence?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? Yep. They are a you know, a four K

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<v Speaker 2>live color video that can be self authenticated by the

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<v Speaker 2>people that are in the video as to what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on and where and when it took place. And they

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<v Speaker 2>are absolutely admissible. The coolest thing about them is when

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So the bottom line is, you got you got evidence.

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<v Speaker 5>Now that evidence could be damning.

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<v Speaker 4>As well, obviously, right, I mean, you know it's not

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<v Speaker 4>always not your fault, but have people been putting other

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<v Speaker 4>kinds of cams? Somebody asked they were sideswiped one time,

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<v Speaker 4>Are there such things? I don't even know? I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 4>has like all kinds of h Yeah, it's got side

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<v Speaker 4>cams and like, if you're in an accident, Mark, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't need to buy separate cameras.

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<v Speaker 5>Your car would have everything recorded.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that right back?

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<v Speaker 7>It'll go back ten seconds from the incident, So if

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<v Speaker 7>somebody hit me, it would go back ten seconds before

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<v Speaker 7>they hit me.

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<v Speaker 2>And can you download that? Yeah? You can? Okay? Yeah, Also,

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<v Speaker 2>so would.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to though, would you have to save that

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<v Speaker 4>since it's overwritten every ten seconds?

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<v Speaker 7>No, it's overwritten every thirty days. The ones that are

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<v Speaker 7>saved an event an event is saved for thirty days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And most dash cams tom they detect a crash

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<v Speaker 2>and they they already saved that footage. They like they

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<v Speaker 2>put a protective code on it or something, and it

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<v Speaker 2>won't delete that footage when it happens. To answer your question, though,

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<v Speaker 2>there's three types of cameras that you can get in

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<v Speaker 2>a dash cam forward looking, rear looking, and inside the

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<v Speaker 2>passenger compartment looking, and not many people really want that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can tell you in a side impact crash

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, something along those lines, seeing what happened

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<v Speaker 2>to the occupants can be very valuable in explaining the

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<v Speaker 2>type of injuries they got and what really happened to

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I was driving behind someone the other day

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<v Speaker 4>and they were swerving so much I thought they were drunk.

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<v Speaker 5>Honest to god, I got afraid.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I should drop back or just

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<v Speaker 4>try to get ahead of them and around them. So

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<v Speaker 4>I decided to pull up alongside and just go in

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<v Speaker 4>front so I could get away from them because they

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<v Speaker 4>were lagging. And as I looked over, it was simply

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<v Speaker 4>some young woman texting. Yep, and she was driving like

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<v Speaker 4>a drunk person. I mean, I'm serious when I say this.

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<v Speaker 4>I have stopped doing that nonsense and all that crap,

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<v Speaker 4>But I can't believe there are people that text while

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<v Speaker 4>they're driving, and they do it no matter what they say,

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<v Speaker 4>no matter what you tell them, they do it. And

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<v Speaker 4>there's got to be there should be some kind of

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<v Speaker 4>technology available to prevent texting. It should literally, absolutely positively,

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<v Speaker 4>your phone should lock down, So when you're driving you

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<v Speaker 4>can't text. You can call maybe, but don't you agree?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean this it seems to me.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, But why not outlaw putting makeup on them? I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>why not outlaw?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, I mean, of course, seriously, why a nanny state

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<v Speaker 7>like that? I think that's ridiculous. I have stopped putting

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<v Speaker 7>makeup on in the car. I can tell by looking

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<v Speaker 7>at you, you know so.

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<v Speaker 4>But seriously, Mark, I'm talking about technology with a car.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not talking I'm talking about phones, like for example,

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<v Speaker 7>Knows if I am holding my phone knows and it'll

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<v Speaker 7>turn off auto pilot if I'm holding my phone or

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<v Speaker 7>not paying attention, So my car does it.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, it's I would like a phone. I would like

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<v Speaker 4>phones where you cannot text. You absolutely cannot text when

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<v Speaker 4>in motion. It's that simple. People get killed and and John,

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<v Speaker 4>is there a way when you when one of your

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<v Speaker 4>someone from from behind, I'm sure because she was slamming

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<v Speaker 4>on her brakes every five seconds whenever somebody ahead of

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<v Speaker 4>her slowed down because she that lag time. Is there

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<v Speaker 4>a way can you as evidence. Can you literally ask,

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<v Speaker 4>like like about texting? Can you go into a phone

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<v Speaker 4>as part of your evidentiary search?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can, and we get subpoena that you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But but here's the thing, like, really, what are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to get in those phone records? You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get the precise second that a text was sent. That

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that the person didn't spend the previous you know,

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<v Speaker 2>two minutes reading a text and then deciding what they

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<v Speaker 2>were going to say and then fumbling through typing it

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<v Speaker 2>and misspelling something.

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<v Speaker 12>Now that they're texting, Yeah, but what if you can

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<v Speaker 12>show they're texting while they're I'm just talking about in general,

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<v Speaker 12>you can show the habit of texting right up to

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<v Speaker 12>the moment of impact.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can show that. I mean it doesn't All

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm trying to say is that it doesn't make it.

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<v Speaker 7>How does that make it the fact they were texting

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<v Speaker 7>the fault of the accident? I don't understand that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the That's the difficult leap to make. No, Tom,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody disputes it. It's distracting and it's not a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody's disputing that. But how do you take the instance

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<v Speaker 2>that a text was received at four forty three, and

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<v Speaker 2>make that the cause of the accident. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that the person picked up their phone, looked

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<v Speaker 2>at it, read it. Somebody in the passenger compartment.

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<v Speaker 7>That I mean, answer is my text when I'm driving.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm kidding.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's very difficult to take that momentary comment about

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<v Speaker 4>it could have been somebody.

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<v Speaker 5>It could have been somebody in the car if there

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<v Speaker 5>was someone.

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<v Speaker 4>But I just think that, you know, I know of

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<v Speaker 4>a case very personally. Okay, Now, this woman, two little kids,

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<v Speaker 4>her husband's out jogging, he come, he never comes home.

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<v Speaker 5>He's dead.

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<v Speaker 4>He was hit by and they established that the person

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<v Speaker 4>was texting, okay, and vehicular manslaughter.

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<v Speaker 5>They were prosecuted.

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<v Speaker 2>Good.

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<v Speaker 4>But she went on a campaign on a campaign, and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what happened to that campaign about texting

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<v Speaker 4>and driving, And it's just it's so needless. And I

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<v Speaker 4>don't care what anyone says. You cannot pay attention. You cannot.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to do. I used to try to look

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<v Speaker 4>down and text a word or two. I swear I did.

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<v Speaker 4>And I can't tell you how many times I regretted

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<v Speaker 4>it because I came so close and I decided a

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<v Speaker 4>long time ago I would never text while driving.

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<v Speaker 5>Never.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, if I really have to get messages out and

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<v Speaker 4>stuff and I don't want to call, I'll pull over.

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<v Speaker 4>But when you see people you don't know if they're

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<v Speaker 4>drunk or they're texting. That's how bad it is. And

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<v Speaker 4>I want to know from people. I want them to

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<v Speaker 4>admit if they do it, and why they do it.

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<v Speaker 4>There's nothing that important, and why how about GPS data?

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<v Speaker 7>So like so John, So we understand the video and

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<v Speaker 7>we understand what we're talking about now the text. But

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<v Speaker 7>let's say someone hits you and you think they're drunk

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<v Speaker 7>and you want to bring that is part of it,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, for court. Can you actually get data from say,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, like Hondi's got blue lay Can, Chevy has

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<v Speaker 7>whatever Chevy calls it, and they know the manufacturer knows

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<v Speaker 7>everywhere that car went. My god, Tesla knows every single

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<v Speaker 7>place I've ever been. Can you get that data to

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<v Speaker 7>show hey, he was out bar hopping right before this

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<v Speaker 7>or no?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean you can. You can get all those downloads.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're not easy and you need experts and

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<v Speaker 2>it's very expensive. So it's going to take a particular

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<v Speaker 2>case to justify that expense. You wouldn't do it on

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<v Speaker 2>just the average little rear end accident or something. But

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<v Speaker 2>you can technically do that. You know, there are apps

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<v Speaker 2>out there that we've used, Like there are parental control

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<v Speaker 2>great data. We mean those great data. Yeah. Speed how

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff, And that is tremendously valuable when

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<v Speaker 2>you can put your hands on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, guys, I got to take a break.

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<v Speaker 5>I have some texts for Brook.

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<v Speaker 4>One is specifically about commercial solar systems. What is considered

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<v Speaker 4>a commercial operation. They're interested in what's called a reap

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<v Speaker 4>grand And again I want to clarify when can the

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<v Speaker 4>government help pay for commercial systems? What is the commercial system?

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<v Speaker 4>zero sixteen twenty two. Hey Tom Martine here, so uh

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<v Speaker 4>Brooke is with us From red Rocks RS, Red Rocks

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<v Speaker 4>roof and Solar. We talk a lot about these regrants

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<v Speaker 4>and getting commercial operations paid for one hundred percent, where

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<v Speaker 4>there are actually examples of people when they put the

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<v Speaker 4>they put the system in, they get paid for it,

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<v Speaker 4>so they didn't pay for that. Then they charge their

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<v Speaker 4>tenants a reasonable electric fee and they make money there

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<v Speaker 4>and they sell back to the grid and make money there.

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<v Speaker 4>And brook A White they are actually making a profit.

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<v Speaker 5>On a pro solar system, Yes they are. So my question,

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<v Speaker 5>how do you get in on this, on this graft?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, after all these I'm just kidding too,

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<v Speaker 7>after all the cuts, these are these grants still available

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<v Speaker 7>as of now.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was just kidding around. I was just kidding around.

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<v Speaker 4>It's totally legit. Tell me about the REAP grant and

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<v Speaker 4>what it does.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, so the REAP grant last application is actually this month,

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<v Speaker 9>so it's too late to get in on it now.

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<v Speaker 10>But the state of Colorado has its own grid.

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<v Speaker 4>They're doing aspiring completely. Is REAP expiring completely.

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<v Speaker 9>They're not sure if they're going to bring it back

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<v Speaker 9>or not. As Mark said, with a lot of stuff

483
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<v Speaker 9>that's going on right now, things are up in the air.

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<v Speaker 10>But this application deadline is still safe.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So when's the deadline.

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<v Speaker 9>It's March thirty first, So if I haven't been working

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<v Speaker 9>with you already, it's too late to start the process.

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<v Speaker 9>But the difference between like commercial versus non commercial or

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<v Speaker 9>any of those things, we can go through, or we

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<v Speaker 9>can talk about the micro grid grant that the state

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<v Speaker 9>of Colorado has.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, let's talk about what the GREEP grant did. Do

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<v Speaker 4>the REP grant tell me, tell me what it did

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<v Speaker 4>for people.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, So what is considered commercial is if the uh

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<v Speaker 9>there was a business in LLC something that had an

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<v Speaker 9>ei N that was on the contract for the project,

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<v Speaker 9>and that the project itself was either built on a

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<v Speaker 9>business or built on a detached structure of a home

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<v Speaker 9>or a farm. And so with those, those are the

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<v Speaker 9>qualifications in order to do it.

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<v Speaker 10>And then the REAP grant would.

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<v Speaker 4>So Brooke, Brooke, not not to interrupt, but like my

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<v Speaker 4>house here, I use for business and I have this

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<v Speaker 4>whole studio and I have an LLC and and could

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<v Speaker 4>I literally do it at a residential house that has

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<v Speaker 4>commercial activity?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you definitely could. The only issue is is that

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<v Speaker 10>you would.

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<v Speaker 9>Need a detached garage to put the panels on, because

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<v Speaker 9>they cannot go on a house.

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<v Speaker 2>I see, Yep, that's interesting, Okay, so keep going.

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<v Speaker 4>What happens then when you qualify like a farmer, an

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<v Speaker 4>egg farmer, or maybe a greenhouse, somebody who has plants

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<v Speaker 4>or they're you know, they have a commercial operation, they

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<v Speaker 4>what do they do?

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<v Speaker 5>They get it? Actually, the system paid for.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, So between the tax credits and depreciation and the

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<v Speaker 9>reimbursement from the REP grant, it's one hundred and eight

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<v Speaker 9>percent of the project. So if the project was one

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<v Speaker 9>hundred thousand, they get paid eight grant to do the project.

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<v Speaker 9>Plus they get either they're electric bill paid for or

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<v Speaker 9>they are charging their tenants, so they're making income off

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<v Speaker 9>of it. So yep, one of the way, they're either

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<v Speaker 9>saving money or they're making money, depending on their specific

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<v Speaker 9>scenario and also their tax library.

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<v Speaker 5>I wonder of that. I wonder if they'll ever bring

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<v Speaker 5>it back.

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<v Speaker 10>What do you think I would guess that.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, the repe grant's been around forever, it's been

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<v Speaker 9>around for thirty years. It's just got a lot more

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<v Speaker 9>funding that happens during the an administration. So my guess is,

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<v Speaker 9>whoever the next administrator is may put funds back into it,

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<v Speaker 9>or the Trump administration may do so. In twenty twenty six,

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<v Speaker 9>twenty twenty seven. You know, it's definitely not a dead

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<v Speaker 9>program since it's been along been around so long. I

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<v Speaker 9>just think that there's so many changes going on right

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<v Speaker 9>now that it's not the major folks.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, there was another program you mentioned now and yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>well Colorado one with Colorado.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, so the state of Colorado has a grant for

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<v Speaker 9>microgrids and it's actually a little bit cooler than the

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<v Speaker 9>repe grant and the fact that it doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 9>million dollar cap.

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<v Speaker 10>Its cap is two point five million.

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<v Speaker 9>So there's some different requirements that go into it, but essentially,

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<v Speaker 9>as long as you're showing that you're putting together a

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<v Speaker 9>micro grid in an area of need, you're eligible to

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<v Speaker 9>get funded for this project.

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<v Speaker 10>And it's really cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, explain what a micro grid would be like? Would

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<v Speaker 4>a developer do that in a subdivision or would it

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<v Speaker 4>can an individual do it?

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<v Speaker 5>What is a micro grid?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, so it's a pretty loose definition from the State

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<v Speaker 9>of Colorado. So a microgrid even was one of their

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<v Speaker 9>projects that they funded was just powering a library. So

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<v Speaker 9>the library had a solar system and had a battery

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<v Speaker 9>so that if power went down, the community could go

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<v Speaker 9>there as.

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<v Speaker 10>Like a safe haven, if you will.

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<v Speaker 9>And so it could be as small as just one

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<v Speaker 9>building to as big as powering a town.

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<v Speaker 10>You know.

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<v Speaker 9>Going up to two and a half million as a

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<v Speaker 9>match means that you could do a five million.

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<v Speaker 10>Dollar project on this.

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<v Speaker 9>That's a pretty big project, you know, but you could

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<v Speaker 9>go as small as, like I said, just powering a

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<v Speaker 9>building too.

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<v Speaker 4>And does it pay a part of it or does

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<v Speaker 4>it pay for all of it?

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<v Speaker 10>It matches what you do.

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<v Speaker 9>So if you have a project, okay, if you have

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<v Speaker 9>a project that produces four bago hours of power annually,

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<v Speaker 9>they will do one hundred percent match, which means it's

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<v Speaker 9>fifty percent of the project. If you have something less

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<v Speaker 9>than that, then they do a thirty percent match, which

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<v Speaker 9>ends being about twenty five percent of the products.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, gotcha. Okay, that makes sense. So that's available only

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<v Speaker 4>to commercial operations that have a community benefit.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, you would have to tie into a community benefit, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So schools could do that, well.

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<v Speaker 10>Anybody could. I mean schools can do that, a farm

585
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<v Speaker 10>can do that, anybody.

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<v Speaker 9>They can just say that these are the things that

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<v Speaker 9>we're able to power. Because if you build a community

588
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<v Speaker 9>and a farm and you and three other farmers have

589
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<v Speaker 9>access to this power, then you're building a community that's

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<v Speaker 9>going to have access to things if the grid goes

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<v Speaker 9>down and keep things operating at a higher level. So

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<v Speaker 9>your basis of community is a little bit laxed on

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<v Speaker 9>this project.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't want to ask this, and I don't

595
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<v Speaker 4>mean this as a joke. I mean this sincerely. A

596
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<v Speaker 4>neighborhood tavern says, Hey, a lot of people gather here

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<v Speaker 4>and i'd like to have if power goes down, this

598
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<v Speaker 4>solar backup. Would that be? Could that be considered a

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<v Speaker 4>community project? And I mean that a restaurant or tavern.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I mean I think as long as the restaurant

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<v Speaker 9>or tavern can say, you know, once a month we

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<v Speaker 9>hold you know, an educational thing, or once a month

603
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<v Speaker 9>we do something for political purposes or educational they have trivia. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>I mean you can't just say, hey, we're a bar

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<v Speaker 9>and we want to hang out and make sure that

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<v Speaker 9>we can watch the Broncos game. Right, There's got to

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<v Speaker 9>be you know, some sort of I got the benefit to.

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<v Speaker 4>It, No, I get what you're saying. Yeah, And I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not always looking for the for the for the game

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<v Speaker 4>in it. I'm just wondering, you know, how far they

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<v Speaker 4>go because I you know, let's face that a lot

612
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<v Speaker 4>of these programs are taken advantage of.

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<v Speaker 5>But Brooke, I got to take a break.

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<v Speaker 4>But real quick, do you find people knowing about these

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<v Speaker 4>benefits and using them or is this something you have

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<v Speaker 4>to educate people about.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh, I always have to educate folks on how.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you get the word out about it? I mean

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<v Speaker 4>really about like, hey, did you know you?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>There might be people out there right now that want

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<v Speaker 4>us a system but didn't know they could do it

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<v Speaker 4>this way. So I mean, what does the state do

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<v Speaker 4>to promote this kind of stuff?

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<v Speaker 9>Honestly, the state doesn't have a whole lot of ways

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<v Speaker 9>to promote these kind of items. You can just look

627
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<v Speaker 9>on Google or look on different websites, or be added

628
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<v Speaker 9>to their email list to see if there's any updates.

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<v Speaker 9>But really it's the developers or the solar installers that

630
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<v Speaker 9>are always looking for this because that's how.

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<v Speaker 10>We make our money.

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<v Speaker 13>Right.

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<v Speaker 10>If we can make it a cheaper product for you

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<v Speaker 10>to buy, it's easier for us to sell it.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Brooke.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, and so that's the Red Rocks Roof and Solar

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<v Speaker 4>redrocksrs dot Com. Okay, we're going to take your break.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to tell you first about one clear Choice

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<v Speaker 11>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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<v Speaker 4>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. We don want

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<v Speaker 4>three talks everyone three A two five five. We've been

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<v Speaker 4>talking a number of things. Let's go to the phones

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<v Speaker 4>right now and we have Robbie. Hey, Robbie, what do

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<v Speaker 4>you need to know about?

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<v Speaker 13>Hey?

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<v Speaker 14>I was calling about collecting on a judgment from a

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<v Speaker 14>former employer.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, did you get an actual judgment?

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, Yeah, we went filed a claim to the labor Department.

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<v Speaker 15>They did all their.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes stuff, and then they filed the judgment with the

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<v Speaker 14>Denver District Court in January.

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<v Speaker 5>And how much is the judgment for?

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<v Speaker 14>Twelve eight and forty eight dollars?

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<v Speaker 5>Is it in an what is what does it stem from?

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<v Speaker 13>What's that? What is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>Two questions? Mark, mark yours first? Go ahead? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Is it in the individual's name, the owner's name or

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<v Speaker 7>is it in the company name.

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<v Speaker 14>It's got both, it's got the company name and the

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<v Speaker 14>end of it the owner.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, what what does this step?

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<v Speaker 14>What's what does it stem from?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>How'd you get a judgment non payment of wages or what? Yes?

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, he closed the business and he didn't pay us

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<v Speaker 14>the for like a month's worth of payment for page.

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<v Speaker 4>Did anyone did anyone else get judgments?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there's a I know of.

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<v Speaker 14>Two other two other employees that are in the same

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<v Speaker 14>process that I'm in.

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<v Speaker 4>They have judgments and they're going after them.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, yes, we're trying. Okay, we're just sure what to do.

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<v Speaker 4>The reason I ask is because if you have a

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<v Speaker 4>sizeable judgment like you do, and especially multiple ones, you

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<v Speaker 4>guys could go in as a joinder. You could go

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<v Speaker 4>into one one collection attorney and he could do it

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<v Speaker 4>as a group. That's one, and it's better for that

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<v Speaker 4>because then they can get a bigger commission at the end,

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<v Speaker 4>collecting three sizeable judgments. That's one way to do it. However,

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<v Speaker 4>John Fuller as an attorney. I'm just talking to John here.

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<v Speaker 4>He knows a lot about the law.

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<v Speaker 5>John.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if people don't have money, I mean, now

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<v Speaker 4>you you can't. I believe this is one of the

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<v Speaker 4>kinds of judgments you can't bankrupt out of because it's wages.

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<v Speaker 5>John, do you does that ring true to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think I think it might be in that category.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, because if somebody owes you wages and taxes, and

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<v Speaker 4>there's certain other things fraud you can't bankrupt out of.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you say, yeah, I mean there are avenues

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<v Speaker 2>that this caller can go down to try to collect

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff. But I mean, you can't get blood out

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<v Speaker 2>of a turnip, and so maybe you're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>looking at trying to you know, follow security interest in

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<v Speaker 2>Garnish tax return money and stuff like that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very difficult.

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<v Speaker 4>But here's what I'd like to do, Robbie, hang on,

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna try to get one of our collections attorneys on.

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<v Speaker 4>all three seven to seven to one help. You'll think

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<v Speaker 4>you're his only customer when you choose Frank durand the

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<v Speaker 4>real estate Man dot com to list your home with

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<v Speaker 16>This is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martine, Hey.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, hey, Tom Martina here, and we are solving problems,

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<v Speaker 4>doing that, and we love trying to make your life

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<v Speaker 4>easier and informing you and talking about issues of the

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<v Speaker 5>And our everyday life.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to bring in the studio. Now we got

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<v Speaker 4>those streaming. Can see all the pretty faces in the

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<v Speaker 4>studio and Mark two. Okay, so welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Three oh three seven one three talk. Now. You see

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<v Speaker 4>the other number up there on the screen if you're watching,

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<v Speaker 4>it's three oh three Martino. That can be called twenty

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<v Speaker 4>four to seven three oh three six two seven, eight

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<v Speaker 4>four sixty six. So Robbie called and said I was

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<v Speaker 4>working somewhere and didn't get paid.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, Robbie, did this place go out of business?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, it did, Okay, so they he went out of

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<v Speaker 4>business and had owed you money at the time he

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<v Speaker 4>went out of business.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, yeh. He hadn't paid us for like the month

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<v Speaker 14>of January and then he closed.

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<v Speaker 4>And okay now, and so you in about two you

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<v Speaker 4>and two other employees.

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<v Speaker 14>Two that I know of, yes, okay, Well, and.

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<v Speaker 5>You know and you know that they have judgments as

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<v Speaker 5>well as you.

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<v Speaker 14>Right, yes they do.

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<v Speaker 4>And and so the judgments are about twelve grand each.

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<v Speaker 14>Theirs are quite a bit more. I think theirs are

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<v Speaker 14>closer to thirty thousand, So.

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<v Speaker 4>You could be looking at almost one hundred grand in judgments.

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<v Speaker 14>Right, possibly, yeah, yeah, probably somewhere about eighty between eighty

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<v Speaker 14>and one hundred.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Now what kind of business was this, Robbie.

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<v Speaker 14>It was a custom furniture design company.

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<v Speaker 5>And when did it go out of business?

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<v Speaker 14>It went out of business in February twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, now, yeah, so it is the judgment? How

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<v Speaker 4>is the judgment issued? On the line? Does it say

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<v Speaker 4>the store and so and so proprietor or how is

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<v Speaker 4>it written this judgment?

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, this is two. It has the name of the

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<v Speaker 14>company and then below that it has the name of

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<v Speaker 14>the owner.

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<v Speaker 4>But does it is it the name of the owner

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<v Speaker 4>as the owner or as an individual?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know?

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<v Speaker 14>I think an individual?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, in any case, I'm Frank Ball. Frank Ball is

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<v Speaker 4>a collection attorney extraordinary and he does a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>big corporate collections. He knows what he's doing, he's fair,

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<v Speaker 4>he's honest. He's also very aggressive and knows what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 4>We love talking to him about all things collection and

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<v Speaker 4>Frank serves as an expert. Now to be to be Frank,

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<v Speaker 4>he doesn't take a lot of to be Frank, that's

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<v Speaker 4>no pun Intendo. But he doesn't take a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>individual he doesn't take a lot of individual consumer cases.

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<v Speaker 4>But he certainly can help us get a direction. So Frank,

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<v Speaker 4>first of all, I want to I want to ask

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<v Speaker 4>Frank something, Frank that expression, even though some judgments can't

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<v Speaker 4>be bankrupted out of you can't take blood from a

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<v Speaker 4>turn up, I mean, or blood from a stone.

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<v Speaker 2>So if money.

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't there, they don't put a guy in jail. What

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<v Speaker 4>happens if money just isn't there.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, it's not there, can't collect it. It really depends

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<v Speaker 13>given her situation. If she has sounds like she has

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<v Speaker 13>a judgment against the company. Okay, in terms of the

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<v Speaker 13>judgment against the company, if they if it's Joe's custom

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<v Speaker 13>furniture design and then a year later they open up

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<v Speaker 13>Sally's Custom furniture design and it's the same or similar outfit,

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<v Speaker 13>you can sue Sally's and say you really used to

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<v Speaker 13>be Joe's and I want money from you. So you

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<v Speaker 13>have to go in and you'd have to pierce the

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<v Speaker 13>corporate veil. That's that's well, what.

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<v Speaker 4>If what if she says, his name is on the judgment.

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<v Speaker 5>Frank, She says, his name is on the judgment.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, great, minds think alike. That's what I was going

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<v Speaker 13>to talk about next. If he is really individually liable,

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<v Speaker 13>then you can go after him individually. I mean, as

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<v Speaker 13>long as he lives in the state of Colorado. You

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<v Speaker 13>can find out where he works, you can garnish his

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<v Speaker 13>pay you can and find out his information, you can

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<v Speaker 13>levy his bank you can do all sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So the only way to know if it's if it's

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<v Speaker 4>issued to both him personally and the corp. See, it

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<v Speaker 4>could just be the name of the corporation, Comma so

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<v Speaker 4>and so owner. You see what I'm saying. So I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if it isn't his name individually, you're saying

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<v Speaker 4>it is Robbie. Why do you think it is? Did

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<v Speaker 4>the judge say that?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, just the.

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<v Speaker 14>Questions that the labor Department was asking, like was he

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<v Speaker 14>financially making all the financial decisions?

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<v Speaker 10>Was he paying?

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<v Speaker 14>Like he would sign the paychecks, he would tell.

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<v Speaker 13>Us when we get a paid, let me jump in,

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<v Speaker 13>and I would have both people's names. It would have

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<v Speaker 13>Joe's custom furniture design and it would have Joe Smith. Yes,

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<v Speaker 13>we both then typically it would be both. I would

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<v Speaker 13>guess in that scenario.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, so Frank Frank, what would be what should be

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<v Speaker 7>her first stip hold? On real quick though, on just

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<v Speaker 7>a total side note, why wouldn't he have argued? Maybe

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<v Speaker 7>he never showed up to court or never participated in

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<v Speaker 7>any of this labor stuff, But why wouldn't you have

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<v Speaker 7>argued the company the corporation went out? Why am I

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<v Speaker 7>held personally liable for this? I guess I'm missing that part.

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<v Speaker 7>So if you did get the judgment and someone did file,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, a Form twenty nine and actually was going

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<v Speaker 7>after a bank account or something, he would have that

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<v Speaker 7>period of time to actually argue, wouldn't he that that's

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<v Speaker 7>the corporation? I don't personally own this.

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<v Speaker 13>I think the answer to that question it depends is

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<v Speaker 13>it depends on the basis of the money owed. If

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<v Speaker 13>it was way just sometimes they will hold both the

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<v Speaker 13>individual and the business liable. If it was something else,

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<v Speaker 13>maybe they won't. But maybe in this particular case they

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<v Speaker 13>held both responsible.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So what is her first step?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, you have to find out where his accets are,

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00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:08.960
<v Speaker 13>where he is do you know anything about him since

856
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:09.440
<v Speaker 13>you're waiting.

857
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:13.920
<v Speaker 14>I know he I know he was living here in Denver.

858
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.000
<v Speaker 14>I don't know if he still is. I heard he

859
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:20.280
<v Speaker 14>sold his house, so I don't know. I don't really

860
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:20.679
<v Speaker 14>know where.

861
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:22.719
<v Speaker 4>Well, one of the quickest way to find out is

862
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:25.480
<v Speaker 4>tell me his name. It's public record. It's you're not

863
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:27.679
<v Speaker 4>doing anything, Uh slanderous?

864
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:28.760
<v Speaker 5>What what is his name?

865
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:36.400
<v Speaker 14>His name is James Hickson. Hickson, Hickson, h I X

866
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:40.159
<v Speaker 14>s O n okay James.

867
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:41.960
<v Speaker 5>And then go ahead.

868
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:47.119
<v Speaker 14>The company it's called black Towne Design Company.

869
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:51.119
<v Speaker 13>Oh, we know who the black colt was?

870
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:51.880
<v Speaker 2>What is it?

871
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:52.559
<v Speaker 7>Black town?

872
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:55.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, black like a dog.

873
00:43:56.920 --> 00:43:58.440
<v Speaker 13>We know who that black cone is?

874
00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:00.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we do.

875
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:05.760
<v Speaker 4>Now it's Hickson. So Hickson. Now, now I want to

876
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:09.760
<v Speaker 4>ask you something. This is what was Hickson just trying

877
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:11.960
<v Speaker 4>to make it and he couldn't or do you think

878
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:14.199
<v Speaker 4>there was something more dastardly going on?

879
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:15.920
<v Speaker 1>No?

880
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:19.360
<v Speaker 14>I think he probably just things were falling apart and

881
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:23.360
<v Speaker 14>he couldn't make it. But you know he didn't. He

882
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:25.320
<v Speaker 14>didn't tell us a lot us keep coming into work,

883
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:27.159
<v Speaker 14>I think knowing he was going to be closing.

884
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:30.719
<v Speaker 2>And so, yeah.

885
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:33.239
<v Speaker 14>I know there's some other things like I'm not sure

886
00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:36.159
<v Speaker 14>he was collecting taxes. I don't know if he paid

887
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:40.199
<v Speaker 14>our taxes. I'm not really sure what was happening.

888
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:43.079
<v Speaker 5>What do you mean collecting taxes? What do you mean

889
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:44.199
<v Speaker 5>collecting taxes?

890
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.800
<v Speaker 14>He took it out of our p checks, but we

891
00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:50.400
<v Speaker 14>I don't know what if he paid it. We never

892
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:51.320
<v Speaker 14>got a W two.

893
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:56.119
<v Speaker 4>By the way, Robbie, I will tell you this. I

894
00:44:56.159 --> 00:44:58.599
<v Speaker 4>would tell you this. Mark and I handled cases like this,

895
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:02.320
<v Speaker 4>and we we were responsible for getting a guy sent

896
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:03.119
<v Speaker 4>to prison for that.

897
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:05.800
<v Speaker 5>They don't, they don't not. They do not screw around

898
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:06.079
<v Speaker 5>with that.

899
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:10.239
<v Speaker 4>When those when those funds are taken, it's called in trust.

900
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:11.639
<v Speaker 5>They're taken from.

901
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:15.320
<v Speaker 4>An employee and and their intrust and should be sent

902
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:16.840
<v Speaker 4>in their name to the I R S.

903
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:20.079
<v Speaker 5>And when they are not that I R S. Mark,

904
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:21.599
<v Speaker 5>do they come down on them or what?

905
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:25.360
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, they come down on him big time, But they're

906
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:27.079
<v Speaker 7>not going to come down on her from that.

907
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:30.639
<v Speaker 2>Here's what's curios on her hold on guys.

908
00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:36.760
<v Speaker 7>This guy filed bankruptcy in five to four of twenty one,

909
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:41.639
<v Speaker 7>and that's that that black hound. I just don't know

910
00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:45.320
<v Speaker 7>how he's going to be I just don't understand how

911
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:48.280
<v Speaker 7>he marked judgment Martin Pay, I just don't.

912
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:50.400
<v Speaker 4>First of all, First of all, they got the judgment

913
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:53.159
<v Speaker 4>in twenty four post bankruptcy.

914
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get it. So I want to.

915
00:45:56.400 --> 00:45:59.559
<v Speaker 4>Ask Frank Ball, Frank, there are certain kinds of debts

916
00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:04.719
<v Speaker 4>you can't bankrupt on. One is fraud. What about employee wages?

917
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:07.280
<v Speaker 4>Is that something you can bankrupt out of if? I

918
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.000
<v Speaker 4>don't even think he's eligible for bankruptcy. Again, maybe he is,

919
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:12.159
<v Speaker 4>but can you bankrupt out of it?

920
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:15.000
<v Speaker 13>Okay, Well, let me just talk to the first thing

921
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:19.880
<v Speaker 13>you said, fraud. I actually try a fraud case. It's

922
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:23.280
<v Speaker 13>very hard to prove fraud in a bankruptcy case because

923
00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:26.119
<v Speaker 13>you have to prove intent, and it's very hard to

924
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:29.440
<v Speaker 13>prove intent in a bankruptcy case. So and all the

925
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.559
<v Speaker 13>bankruptcy judges they just want to get rid of it,

926
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:35.280
<v Speaker 13>and so they don't necessarily want to add it to

927
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:38.920
<v Speaker 13>the burden of the people who are trying to get

928
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:42.920
<v Speaker 13>out of their depths. So that's the first thing. In

929
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:48.920
<v Speaker 13>terms of other issues that you can not Well, there's restitution,

930
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:52.239
<v Speaker 13>and there's child support, there's maintenance. All those things you

931
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:54.760
<v Speaker 13>can't discharge in a bankruptcy.

932
00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:58.880
<v Speaker 5>What about employees? But what about wages.

933
00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:06.239
<v Speaker 13>I don't know the answer to that, because you'd have

934
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:09.639
<v Speaker 13>to you'd have to do file the bankruptcy in the

935
00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:16.280
<v Speaker 13>in the business name. And given what you just said,

936
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:19.320
<v Speaker 13>I would be very surprised since they're holding an in

937
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:22.880
<v Speaker 13>trust that they can file a bankruptcy out from the

938
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:28.760
<v Speaker 13>wages themselves or the same way, in the same way

939
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:30.599
<v Speaker 13>it would be for the taxes. That'd be like saying,

940
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:33.239
<v Speaker 13>you don't have to pay your payroll taxes, We're going

941
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:35.480
<v Speaker 13>to just bankrupt them out. I don't think the government

942
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:36.679
<v Speaker 13>would allow you to do that.

943
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:38.280
<v Speaker 10>I'm unsure about them.

944
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:42.480
<v Speaker 4>No, they send they send you to prison. That is

945
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:44.840
<v Speaker 4>one thing. Do you know what they actually do. They

946
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:48.119
<v Speaker 4>actually do not ding the employees. They do not they

947
00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:51.079
<v Speaker 4>go after the employer, which is a good thing because

948
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:54.159
<v Speaker 4>but now, of course the I r S is down

949
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.039
<v Speaker 4>a few men and women. But you might want to

950
00:47:57.320 --> 00:47:59.280
<v Speaker 4>put in a complaint with the I R S as well.

951
00:47:59.920 --> 00:48:03.079
<v Speaker 4>Or you can actually search your payroll account. Did you

952
00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:06.880
<v Speaker 4>know that you you actually, Robbie can gain access to

953
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:09.920
<v Speaker 4>your work history and your withholdings online.

954
00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:12.400
<v Speaker 5>So you ought to do that and.

955
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.840
<v Speaker 4>See if there were taxes held for you.

956
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:18.360
<v Speaker 5>You never got a w two how did you file taxes.

957
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:23.599
<v Speaker 14>I had to calculate it all myself and kind of

958
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:26.280
<v Speaker 14>estimate what I think he took out, and then I

959
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:29.000
<v Speaker 14>filled out the form that the IRS as you fill

960
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:33.119
<v Speaker 14>out when you don't get a W two, Because like,

961
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:35.400
<v Speaker 14>if my check was one thousand and he paid me,

962
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:38.440
<v Speaker 14>you know, eight hundred, I knew he kept two hundred.

963
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:40.920
<v Speaker 14>So I estimated what went to state what went to

964
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:42.440
<v Speaker 14>federal based on.

965
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:46.039
<v Speaker 4>You never got a a you never got a wage statement,

966
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:47.280
<v Speaker 4>you just got a check.

967
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:51.679
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, he hand wrote us checks a lot of times.

968
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:57.079
<v Speaker 14>They bounced. We never got paced us. We didn't. We

969
00:48:57.119 --> 00:48:59.480
<v Speaker 14>didn't get W two for half a year. Yeah, it

970
00:48:59.519 --> 00:48:59.960
<v Speaker 14>was a mess.

971
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:01.880
<v Speaker 5>Frank.

972
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:05.039
<v Speaker 4>If they came to you with these sizeable judgments, is

973
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:07.280
<v Speaker 4>this something you take a look at for collection or not.

974
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:13.599
<v Speaker 13>If a dentist came to me with one hundred cases

975
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:16.519
<v Speaker 13>that were five thousand dollars each, I'd take it. But

976
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:20.360
<v Speaker 13>in terms of individual case, I don't have an ability

977
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:22.880
<v Speaker 13>to do that. But there's lots of others in town

978
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:25.480
<v Speaker 13>that would take that because of the high dollar amount.

979
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:30.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm more okay, no, I know that, Frank, Yeah, I know.

980
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:35.519
<v Speaker 7>Really why guy is so I don't think anybody's going

981
00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:38.000
<v Speaker 7>to touch it unless if you know, you know at

982
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:43.079
<v Speaker 7>least where the guy's at and possibly some assets.

983
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Right now, they're just working.

984
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:45.400
<v Speaker 7>To find a ghost.

985
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:48.480
<v Speaker 4>Just find out where he is, and then you could

986
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:52.679
<v Speaker 4>start with some interrogatories and some asset finding tools, and

987
00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:55.639
<v Speaker 4>there are tricks you can do to get him to

988
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:57.800
<v Speaker 4>get his ass in trouble if he doesn't answer him.

989
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:00.760
<v Speaker 4>So one thing at a time, Robbie, We're gonna mark

990
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:04.000
<v Speaker 4>this pending, but we can't go hunting for you, So why.

991
00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:04.519
<v Speaker 2>Don't you do this?

992
00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:06.079
<v Speaker 5>Find out where he is?

993
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:09.880
<v Speaker 4>Any way you can like beat the bushes, ask people

994
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:12.159
<v Speaker 4>who know people who know people. And let me put

995
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:12.880
<v Speaker 4>his name out again.

996
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:14.480
<v Speaker 2>What is it?

997
00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:15.760
<v Speaker 14>James Hickson?

998
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:20.280
<v Speaker 7>James anybody knows James pick goingle.

999
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:22.880
<v Speaker 2>You can find all about him in the company she's

1000
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:24.760
<v Speaker 2>talking about.

1001
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:26.039
<v Speaker 5>Okay, James Hickson.

1002
00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:29.159
<v Speaker 4>And then also if you could drop us a line

1003
00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:34.400
<v Speaker 4>help at trouble. Here's the help at troubleshooter dot com.

1004
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:37.960
<v Speaker 4>Is our email to our general help help at troubleshooter

1005
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:41.440
<v Speaker 4>dot com. And you can also, uh, you can and

1006
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:44.239
<v Speaker 4>and and so when you find out stuff, call us back.

1007
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:47.719
<v Speaker 4>I'll mark this case as pending. And then We'll help

1008
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:50.400
<v Speaker 4>you any way we can, but we can't go hunting

1009
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:52.960
<v Speaker 4>for this guy. Try to do it yourself, Frank Ball,

1010
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:55.519
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1011
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1012
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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Tom Martine here at three oh three seven one

1025
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<v Speaker 4>three talk seven one three eight two five five problems, questions, complaints, Well, okay,

1026
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:54.480
<v Speaker 4>let's move on, and we have a text about solar here.

1027
00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:58.920
<v Speaker 4>What's better? They want to know they're in the country.

1028
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:02.639
<v Speaker 4>Is it better to have a generator or battery backup?

1029
00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:06.320
<v Speaker 4>You know, is it either or or or? How do

1030
00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:10.840
<v Speaker 4>you handle those? Brooke and Brook is with is with

1031
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:12.079
<v Speaker 4>red rocks, roof and solar?

1032
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:15.440
<v Speaker 9>Go ahead, Broke, Yeah, So there's benefits to batteries and

1033
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:18.280
<v Speaker 9>generators or even doing a combination of the two. It's

1034
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:20.840
<v Speaker 9>really about what they're looking to have backup, backed up.

1035
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:23.039
<v Speaker 9>The biggest benefit.

1036
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:25.159
<v Speaker 10>Of a battery over a generator is just the tax

1037
00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:26.440
<v Speaker 10>credits that you get back.

1038
00:52:26.519 --> 00:52:28.599
<v Speaker 9>So right now, the state of Colorado does a ten

1039
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:31.559
<v Speaker 9>percent plus the federal government of thirty. So if the

1040
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:35.159
<v Speaker 9>generator the battery costs the same amount, let's say ten grand,

1041
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:38.320
<v Speaker 9>to make it easy, the battery actually only costs you

1042
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:39.760
<v Speaker 9>six instead of the full ten.

1043
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:41.039
<v Speaker 10>So that's the biggest benefit.

1044
00:52:41.159 --> 00:52:43.239
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So sure you won't get why don't they give

1045
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:44.559
<v Speaker 4>a credit on a generator.

1046
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:45.559
<v Speaker 10>They'll do a.

1047
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:47.679
<v Speaker 9>Credit on a generator if you do it as part

1048
00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:48.960
<v Speaker 9>of a solar project.

1049
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:50.679
<v Speaker 10>That's your caveat.

1050
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:53.639
<v Speaker 5>Okay, is it?

1051
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:55.840
<v Speaker 4>And so you get a normal tax credit to the

1052
00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:56.679
<v Speaker 4>total right.

1053
00:52:58.280 --> 00:52:58.519
<v Speaker 1>Yep?

1054
00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:01.400
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, So if like if you added the generator to

1055
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:04.079
<v Speaker 9>a solar project, you would still get the thirty percent.

1056
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:10.480
<v Speaker 4>Right right of the total project exactly. Okay, So if

1057
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:13.280
<v Speaker 4>you had your own place and it wasn't a matter

1058
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:15.760
<v Speaker 4>of tax credits or cost, what do you like better?

1059
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:17.480
<v Speaker 5>Generator or battery?

1060
00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:22.639
<v Speaker 9>Well, I like a battery more because you're not having

1061
00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:24.000
<v Speaker 9>to pay for your fuel source.

1062
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:27.039
<v Speaker 10>You're always gonna have to pay for your fuel source.

1063
00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:27.840
<v Speaker 10>But the generator.

1064
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:33.920
<v Speaker 4>Okay, but are either? But couldn't a generator last longer?

1065
00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:39.840
<v Speaker 9>Technically it just kind of depends on again, what you're

1066
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:43.679
<v Speaker 9>looking for and what you're backing up, because if the

1067
00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:47.719
<v Speaker 9>sun rises every day, then your battery backup can continue

1068
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:53.599
<v Speaker 9>to run and definitely so in that instance, the battery

1069
00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:55.559
<v Speaker 9>would outpower the generator depending.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, all right?

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<v Speaker 4>Three h three seven one three top three oh three

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<v Speaker 4>seven one three eight two five five. This one's for

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<v Speaker 4>John Fuller. John, how important is it to take photos

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00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:12.760
<v Speaker 4>with your uh or take pics with your phone? Your smartphone?

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00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:17.679
<v Speaker 4>If you have any questions? I mean that they did

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00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:20.519
<v Speaker 4>not do it, and they could have done it, would

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00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:22.039
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't make a big difference.

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00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:23.719
<v Speaker 5>How does it help? What do you suggest?

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00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:26.079
<v Speaker 4>I suggest they take a list of picture of the car,

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00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:28.119
<v Speaker 4>the damage and the license plates.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so Tom, the you know these are the type

1082
00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:37.639
<v Speaker 2>of questions that are that can only be answered by saying, well,

1083
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:40.280
<v Speaker 2>how honest is the person that ran into you? Are

1084
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:42.320
<v Speaker 2>they going to call their insurance company and say it

1085
00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:45.360
<v Speaker 2>was one hundred percent my fault, I screwed up. Whatever

1086
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:47.320
<v Speaker 2>is wrong with this person. I want you to pay

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00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:50.000
<v Speaker 2>for it because I did a bad thing and I'm

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00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:54.280
<v Speaker 2>completely negligent in the operation of my vehicle. If you

1089
00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:56.599
<v Speaker 2>get hit by that guy, you don't need to bother

1090
00:54:56.679 --> 00:54:59.760
<v Speaker 2>taking pictures. But if you're not that guy, or if

1091
00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:02.920
<v Speaker 2>you're not not sure that it's that guy, then the

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00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:05.760
<v Speaker 2>photographs are going to be the only thing that really

1093
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:08.920
<v Speaker 2>can substantiate what happened and where the cars were, and

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00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:11.440
<v Speaker 2>what the intersection looked like, and what the condition of

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00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:14.280
<v Speaker 2>the roadway was, and who the other driver was, because

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<v Speaker 2>all of those things have become an issue in my cases,

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00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:20.280
<v Speaker 2>even the identity of the driver. When a person says,

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00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:23.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, to their insurance company, I was not driving

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00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:25.360
<v Speaker 2>that day, and we know darn well that they were,

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00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:28.199
<v Speaker 2>it would really be lovely to say, well, you know what,

1101
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<v Speaker 2>we happen to have a photograph of the driver in boom.

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00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:34.360
<v Speaker 2>That issue is completely resolved at that moment and we

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<v Speaker 2>move on. With with bigger you know better things.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, John Fuller is our one of our guests, say

1105
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:47.760
<v Speaker 4>our co host sub co host. Of course, I'm just kidding,

1106
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:50.079
<v Speaker 4>But anyway, you can reach him when he's not here

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<v Speaker 4>at three h three five nine seven five hundred.

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<v Speaker 5>So listen, Frank to run the real estate man.

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<v Speaker 4>Want you to know that before you list your house

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00:55:56.760 --> 00:55:58.639
<v Speaker 4>or even think about listing, if you just want to

1111
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<v Speaker 4>know what your house will sell for, He'll provide that

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00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:03.440
<v Speaker 4>service free of charge, with no obligation. And Frank really

1113
00:56:03.480 --> 00:56:06.280
<v Speaker 4>means it. He's a great guy, and he takes into

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<v Speaker 4>consideration all of the market conditions, supply and demand, comparables

1115
00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:14.119
<v Speaker 4>to your house and neighborhood, interest rates, whatever you need

1116
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:17.119
<v Speaker 4>to evaluate what your house will sell, how you'll net it,

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00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:20.000
<v Speaker 4>what you'll net what you can even buy three oh

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<v Speaker 4>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. That's nine two

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<v Speaker 4>zero sixteen twenty two. Or just remember Frank Duran the

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<v Speaker 4>real estateman dot com. Go with a sure thing Denver's

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<v Speaker 4>best roofer Excel Roofing dot com.

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<v Speaker 11>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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<v Speaker 4>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

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<v Speaker 4>dot com to list your home with Max Alliance three

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<v Speaker 4>all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom

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<v Speaker 4>Martino here three O three seven one three talks seven

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<v Speaker 4>one three A two five five eight eight eight Heating

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<v Speaker 4>high efficiency if you have an older system eight eight

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<v Speaker 4>eight Heating dot Com three oh three seven seven zero

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<v Speaker 4>two seven seven six all right, So getting back to

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<v Speaker 4>a solar Brooks, somebody said that they like having both

1139
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:40.639
<v Speaker 4>batteries and a small generator.

1140
00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:41.519
<v Speaker 5>What do you think about that?

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00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:46.440
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I love a battery generator combination. I actually promote those,

1142
00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:48.400
<v Speaker 9>and yes's usually what I work with folks that are

1143
00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:57.280
<v Speaker 9>really looking for extended grid offline needs. Absolutely, Franklin is

1144
00:57:57.320 --> 00:58:00.519
<v Speaker 9>the best battery for a battery generator combination.

1145
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:02.400
<v Speaker 5>Why is that?

1146
00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:03.960
<v Speaker 10>Because they are set.

1147
00:58:03.840 --> 00:58:08.239
<v Speaker 9>Up automatically to have a battery connect directly into the generator.

1148
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:10.599
<v Speaker 10>Instead of having to go through a subpanel to connect it.

1149
00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:13.639
<v Speaker 9>Plus they also have an ability for you to go

1150
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:17.119
<v Speaker 9>into the battery itself and see which loads are using

1151
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:20.079
<v Speaker 9>how much power, and to reduce it. So it's a really,

1152
00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:22.840
<v Speaker 9>really great battery.

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00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:28.599
<v Speaker 4>Someone is considering relocating, they're selling their house.

1154
00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:30.039
<v Speaker 5>They want to know.

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00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:35.039
<v Speaker 4>Is it better to take the system with them it's

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00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:37.960
<v Speaker 4>a five year old system or just buy a new one.

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00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:40.719
<v Speaker 9>No, definitely buy a new one because the equity that

1158
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:44.519
<v Speaker 9>you can gain with the system for the sale is

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<v Speaker 9>part one why and then part two why is because

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<v Speaker 9>you still get your tax credits and benefits if you

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00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:51.920
<v Speaker 9>add sold to the second one if you just move.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, so if you buy, if you buy a new system,

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<v Speaker 4>let's say every other year, you can get a tax

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<v Speaker 4>credit every other year for it every time time you

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<v Speaker 4>buy one.

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<v Speaker 5>Or is there a limit.

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00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:05.760
<v Speaker 9>You could install one hundred solar systems in the same

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<v Speaker 9>year and get all the tax credits.

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00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:11.719
<v Speaker 10>There's no limit to it as long as it's like show.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you move one though, but when they move one,

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00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:16.679
<v Speaker 4>they don't get a tax credit. So you're right, you

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00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:19.239
<v Speaker 4>sell it with the house and then you get a

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00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:23.639
<v Speaker 4>new one and new new tax credit yep, plus you

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<v Speaker 4>have the latest equipment.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and then there's websites or certifications to go through

1176
00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:31.960
<v Speaker 9>to add the equity for the solar system to verify it.

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<v Speaker 10>So make sure that they do.

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00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:35.000
<v Speaker 9>That with their real charts to make sure that they're

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<v Speaker 9>getting the equity value for the system that they're selling.

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<v Speaker 4>John Fuller, this is an odd one somebody I even

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<v Speaker 4>hate saying because I love horses. Somebody hit a horse,

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00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:48.400
<v Speaker 4>they were injured in their car. They want to know

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<v Speaker 4>if the horse owner has responsible Does the horse owner

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00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:56.079
<v Speaker 4>have responsibility to them? Can they sue the horse owner

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<v Speaker 4>because the horse got out?

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<v Speaker 2>Or were you driving around in the horse pasture or

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<v Speaker 2>did the horse get out?

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<v Speaker 5>No, the horse got out. Apparently they said it was

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<v Speaker 5>on the road.

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<v Speaker 4>They if they came around a curve they hit the horse,

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01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:11.960
<v Speaker 4>They went into a ditch and rolled, they got hurt.

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01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:13.320
<v Speaker 5>You know, is this the.

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<v Speaker 2>Generally speaking Tom? In Colorado it's a fence out state,

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01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:21.679
<v Speaker 2>which means you're not going to be able to maintain

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01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:27.280
<v Speaker 2>a claim against the horse owner. However, if the horse owner,

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01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:31.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, was responsible for the condition that let the

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<v Speaker 2>horse out, you know, there can be some negligence there.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen successful actions, but they really require some egregious

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<v Speaker 2>conduct on the part of the owner that caused that

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<v Speaker 2>horse to be out in the in the roadway. So

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<v Speaker 2>so whereas Colorado would you know generally say no, there's

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<v Speaker 2>not a claim. If you let your horse out on

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01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:55.559
<v Speaker 2>the roadway because the grass looked nice and green and

1204
01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:58.280
<v Speaker 2>it seemed like a neat place to feed your horse

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01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:02.920
<v Speaker 2>for free, then you know, under that circumstance you probably

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01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:04.000
<v Speaker 2>could be held liable.

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<v Speaker 5>So I remember speaking of that.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, John Fuller, personal injury attorney, our

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01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:13.400
<v Speaker 4>expert and co host as well, uh three oh three

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01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:16.719
<v Speaker 4>five nine seven forty five hundred. When he's not with us,

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01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:19.639
<v Speaker 4>and and he can, he can take care of He

1212
01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:23.039
<v Speaker 4>will answer all of your initial calls that you asked

1213
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:25.119
<v Speaker 4>to talk to him before you hire him, or you

1214
01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:27.000
<v Speaker 4>never have to hire him. That's what I like about him.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's five nine seven forty five hundred. Now speaking

1216
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<v Speaker 4>of this, somebody this happened to me.

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<v Speaker 5>So my pool cover.

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<v Speaker 4>I was out in Franktown area back in the day

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<v Speaker 4>and we had a pool and a cow got into

1220
01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:45.719
<v Speaker 4>the pool cover and destroyed it and we helped the

1221
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:48.320
<v Speaker 4>cow out. But now we have a destroyed pool cover

1222
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<v Speaker 4>and I want to so I want I was pissed, right,

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01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:56.880
<v Speaker 4>and they actually told me. The owner said, well, we're

1224
01:01:56.880 --> 01:01:58.159
<v Speaker 4>really sorry about that. And he said, what do you

1225
01:01:58.239 --> 01:02:00.400
<v Speaker 4>mean you're sorry? You know you owe me a cover.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, no, you should have had a fence up.

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<v Speaker 4>And I said, what do you mean I should have

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<v Speaker 4>a fence up? I mean, you know I had like

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<v Speaker 4>a normal fence like this. This these ugly not ugly,

1230
01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:12.719
<v Speaker 4>but these white ones everybody what do they call them.

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<v Speaker 5>The the PVC. He's just slats.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>They won't keep anything out of anywhere, but they're just

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01:02:18.920 --> 01:02:21.920
<v Speaker 4>pretty right. So he says, this is the first time

1235
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<v Speaker 4>I heard this. He says, it's a fence out. Say,

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<v Speaker 4>if you want to keep a livestock out, you got

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<v Speaker 4>to fence him out. I don't have to put a

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01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:30.599
<v Speaker 4>fence up to keep him in. And that was true,

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01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:32.400
<v Speaker 4>right John, that's correct.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it really is. It's crazy, but it's true.

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01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:37.679
<v Speaker 2>So when we.

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<v Speaker 8>Had a pool, Tom, we had to put up a

1243
01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:43.400
<v Speaker 8>six foot iron fence with a gate that.

1244
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<v Speaker 7>Could be locked.

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01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:46.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you don't have to do that in a

1246
01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:48.559
<v Speaker 4>country where I was on a forty acre lot.

1247
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<v Speaker 5>They don't make you do that. I mean, but I understand.

1248
01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:54.480
<v Speaker 4>Maybe they do now, Maybe they do now.

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<v Speaker 7>But speaking of that, John, though, I thought there were

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01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:05.519
<v Speaker 7>and laws in Colorado that protected equine and equine owners

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01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:07.480
<v Speaker 7>from that. In other words, even if a horse got

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01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:10.480
<v Speaker 7>out that you couldn't go after the owner.

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01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Is that?

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01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Is that not correct? Or is that you?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, what you're talking about equine liability. And what

1256
01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:19.280
<v Speaker 4>you're talking about is when when you have equine activities, mark,

1257
01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:22.440
<v Speaker 4>you can't hold people responsible for being injured.

1258
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:24.519
<v Speaker 5>Now that doesn't mean that means.

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01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:26.199
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't when you can't mean help me out here

1260
01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:30.800
<v Speaker 2>means trail ride or anything and stuff like that. Dude, ranch, Yeah,

1261
01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:34.760
<v Speaker 2>dude ranch. And it really only covers simple neglige and

1262
01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:37.360
<v Speaker 2>so it doesn't cover gross right there is there is

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01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:38.280
<v Speaker 2>it's right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And and equine activities too, it's it's not a

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01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:47.039
<v Speaker 4>non equine activity. If your horse gets out into a

1266
01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:49.719
<v Speaker 4>picnic and kicks the hell out of somebody, that's not

1267
01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:51.440
<v Speaker 4>considered an equine activity.

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<v Speaker 5>And and you know, but.

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<v Speaker 7>Well if it was a rodeo and the horse got

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01:03:56.800 --> 01:03:59.400
<v Speaker 7>up into the stands and really hurt some people, right.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, that would be they would be a hard

1272
01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:07.760
<v Speaker 4>time collecting on anything equine activity related. That's horse shows, rodeos,

1273
01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:13.079
<v Speaker 4>that's even pony rides, dude ranches, and it includes even when.

1274
01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:14.400
<v Speaker 5>Horses are there for decoration.

1275
01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:17.239
<v Speaker 4>If you had an old Western town and a horse

1276
01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:20.679
<v Speaker 4>went on a rampage, I mean, it really is anything

1277
01:04:20.679 --> 01:04:22.800
<v Speaker 4>to do with equine. And the reason is is that

1278
01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:25.440
<v Speaker 4>at one time this state's economy, a lot of it

1279
01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:29.079
<v Speaker 4>was based on you know, the wild West and and horses,

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<v Speaker 4>and they couldn't afford to have people being sued over

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<v Speaker 4>their horse stuff, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's in the operation of a horse too.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you're using a pack horse, or you're moving

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<v Speaker 4>cattle and your car gets hurt or something, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>that's an equine activity, even though you're not participating in it.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of immunity for or there used to be.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how it is now. John would have

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<v Speaker 4>to tell you, John.

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<v Speaker 8>But there is there defined a difference between simple and

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<v Speaker 8>growth segloge or is it subjective?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not very subjective at all. You know, simple

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<v Speaker 2>negligence is just good old negligence. Newer should have known

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<v Speaker 2>made a mistake, you know, failure to act in a

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<v Speaker 2>way that a reasonably prudent person would have acted. That's

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<v Speaker 2>simple negligence. Gross negligence generally crosses over the line into

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<v Speaker 2>intentionality and reckless conduct, and conduct that's almost certain to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to result in a certain outcome. That's that's bad.

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<v Speaker 2>So in the case of you know, equine cases or stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we we would get into the knowledge of

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<v Speaker 2>the proclivity of a certain horse if you had one

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<v Speaker 2>that always, you know, think about a trail riding operation.

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<v Speaker 2>If you had a horse that every single time you

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<v Speaker 2>took the stupid horse out it was barn sour and

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<v Speaker 2>it would run fifty miles an hour back to the

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<v Speaker 2>back to the barn when they would turn around. You

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't put a brand new, you know, first time horseback

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<v Speaker 2>rider on that horse. That would that would conote a

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<v Speaker 2>degree of intentionality and stuff that that would probably give

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<v Speaker 2>rise to liability. You know, it's it's culpable knowledge. So now.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to mention that we have a lot more

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<v Speaker 4>choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot com to

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<v Speaker 4>list your home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine

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<v Speaker 4>two zero, sixteen twenty two. Hi, Tom Martino, you're a troubleshooter.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go to James on the phone. James, go ahead,

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<v Speaker 4>what's going on?

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<v Speaker 10>James?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 17>Tom?

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<v Speaker 5>What's happening man? Yes?

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<v Speaker 17>I was going to get your opinion on a company

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<v Speaker 17>called Furnished find set out with the Marketplace. I was

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<v Speaker 17>wanting to see if you had anybody call in about

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<v Speaker 17>their reviews, basically their operating.

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<v Speaker 4>Now are you talking about did they find they find

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<v Speaker 4>what furnished apartments and stuff?

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<v Speaker 5>Or what are we talking about? Furnished rentals?

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<v Speaker 17>They really play like traveling nurses and professionals.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, yes, from Nathan Why yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It's used a lot for people who travel and are

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<v Speaker 4>only staying in a place a short time, and they

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<v Speaker 4>don't move in and out of an apartment. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>called furnished Finders. Now there's more than one. Now, Furnished

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<v Speaker 4>Finder is a brand name, but there are other companies

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<v Speaker 4>that do it. So are you asking me are they reputable?

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<v Speaker 4>The answer is in general.

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<v Speaker 18>Yes, okay, oh, yes, and okay, And now.

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<v Speaker 5>As always no, no, we've never had a complaint.

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<v Speaker 4>But as always I want to tell you something about

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<v Speaker 4>this with any kind of a rental service, you must

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<v Speaker 4>be sure that they have the authority to rent and

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<v Speaker 4>they're not just inserting themselves in a transaction, and that

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<v Speaker 4>they have authority to collect money, and that that money

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<v Speaker 4>is going to the right place. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 4>very complicated, but you have to do some due diligence

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<v Speaker 4>because there are a plethora of people who are collecting

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<v Speaker 4>deposits on apartments. They don't even have the authority to rent,

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<v Speaker 4>and they just find a listing and they insert themselves

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<v Speaker 4>in it. So make sure you're dealing directly with the

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<v Speaker 4>people that you want to like let's say country club,

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<v Speaker 4>tower and gardens. They rent out furnished places. When you're

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<v Speaker 4>dealing directly with them, there's no problem now, But furnished

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<v Speaker 4>rentals that you're calling about furnished Finder, that you have

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<v Speaker 4>to make sure that you're really dealing with furnished Finder,

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<v Speaker 4>not someone who says they're with furnished Finder, and that

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<v Speaker 4>they really do have authority to rent. That's and and

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<v Speaker 4>right now it's too difficult to tell you how to

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<v Speaker 4>do due diligence, but it's easy enough to get phone

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<v Speaker 4>numbers and contact and emails and URLs and verify that

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<v Speaker 4>you're dealing with the real people. I mean, that's very

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<v Speaker 4>That's the biggest danger in using a third party for

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<v Speaker 4>rentals is that you're paying someone or you're signing something

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<v Speaker 4>with someone who has no authority.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, Mark will.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell you we've had several cases like that over the

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<v Speaker 4>years where an entire family moved into a furnished home,

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<v Speaker 4>paid ten grand with security deposit first month's rent. Remember Mark,

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<v Speaker 4>that one family and she comes to find out the

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<v Speaker 4>owners didn't even though they rented out their house. Yep, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's a sad commentary of the home.

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<v Speaker 17>Yes, I'm the owner of that, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>D yeah, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're going to be renting it out to traveling

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<v Speaker 4>nurses and all that, that is a good place to start.

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<v Speaker 4>They're good people, they're not bad, no complaints ever. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Martino. We have another two hours ago on the

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<v Speaker 4>Troubleshooter Show three O three seven one three talk seven

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<v Speaker 4>one three eight two five five Stick around for more

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<v Speaker 4>with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>We have Red Rocks, roof and Solar and John Fuller

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<v Speaker 4>Guests go with a sure thing Denver's Best Roofer, Excel Roofing,

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<v Speaker 4>Please time for an insurance check up free, no obligation.

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<v Speaker 4>Comparison call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at

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<v Speaker 4>dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh three

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<v Speaker 4>seven seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

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<v Speaker 4>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

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<v Speaker 4>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 4>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Ripped bad news? You need advice?

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<v Speaker 2>Who you don't help?

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<v Speaker 1>Come run in just as mass as we can.

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<v Speaker 3>Shooter's gonna help.

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<v Speaker 2>Come man, This is the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 16>No Tom Martinez, Welcome, Welcome, my friends to the own

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<v Speaker 16>three show of It's gott We're here to solve problems,

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<v Speaker 16>answer questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Take complaints. Our goal in life, you know it, Say

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<v Speaker 2>it with me.

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<v Speaker 7>Make your life a little bit better. Maybe you've been

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<v Speaker 7>ripped off by a contractor. Maybe you have any questions.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe you need help collecting a judgment. Maybe you need

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<v Speaker 7>help going after someone that ran into you in their car.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, luckily, John Fuller's with me today.

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<v Speaker 7>John, glad you could join us today and by the way,

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<v Speaker 7>we also have another gas Brooke White Red Rocks RS.

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<v Speaker 7>I say this about you all the time, Brooke. The

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<v Speaker 7>amount of money you can find for people building commercial

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<v Speaker 7>solar systems is remarkable. We've had callers where you have

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<v Speaker 7>literally recoupo one hundred and twenty percent of the cost

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<v Speaker 7>of the solar system. That is absolutely amazing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>you're basically talking a free system through grant money and

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<v Speaker 7>through tax credits. But any questions you have on solar,

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<v Speaker 7>any questions you have, period, we have three lines open

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<v Speaker 7>right now. I'll always tell you when a line's open.

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<v Speaker 7>We'd love to hear from you. By the way, a

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<v Speaker 7>little bit of exciting news. Trump is basically saying they

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<v Speaker 7>have a ceasefire deal not in place yet, but everybody's

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<v Speaker 7>somewhat agreeing to the structure of it right now with

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<v Speaker 7>Ukraine and Russia. That would be really cool. And some

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<v Speaker 7>of the details, in fact, a lot of them have

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<v Speaker 7>been discussed. I guess Ukraine giving up X amount of territory.

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<v Speaker 7>But think about that, Boy, wouldn't that be great. They

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<v Speaker 7>paint that war over there is like Vietnam, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 7>as soon as these troops get out, there's no hills nothing. Basically,

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<v Speaker 7>it's just a bloodbath. Hopefully all these young men on

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<v Speaker 7>both side quit dying. That would be awesome if that

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<v Speaker 7>actually goes through. But three oh three seven, one, three, eight,

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<v Speaker 7>two five five. Let's jump over to Kim real quick.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey Kim, what's going on with you? It says you

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01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:16.279
<v Speaker 7>got some kind of issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Kimberly, how are you?

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<v Speaker 10>This is a gentleman mom.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hey Kim, what's going on? How can we help you? Kim?

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<v Speaker 7>I can tell you Mark well, I mean, if he's

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<v Speaker 7>not there, why are we talking to him?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he there?

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<v Speaker 10>I'm not sure I've been. I meant to follow up

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<v Speaker 10>with him, but it's been a crazy week.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 10>Basically, he was married thirty five forty years. He and

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<v Speaker 10>his wife get divorced.

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<v Speaker 15>He's living in the barn, if you will, the apartment.

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<v Speaker 10>Barn, literally living in the house.

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<v Speaker 15>They come up with an agreement to divorce, she sells

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<v Speaker 15>the house.

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<v Speaker 10>He was supposed to get half. He never did. But

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<v Speaker 10>I think this all happened a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Happened Kim? This is uh?

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<v Speaker 18>I mean the house just sold less than a year ago.

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<v Speaker 18>But it's been in the whole divorce thing has been

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<v Speaker 18>a couple of.

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<v Speaker 7>Years now, so two years ago you get the force.

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<v Speaker 7>So the judgment or the decree said, what explain it?

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<v Speaker 18>He said that we could live in separate quarters, which

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<v Speaker 18>she would live in the house and I live in

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<v Speaker 18>the in in my shop. So we started to do that.

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<v Speaker 18>Of course that didn't work right, long story stort. She

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<v Speaker 18>ended up selling the house underneath my feet. It kept

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<v Speaker 18>getting kicked off the property by police and I just so.

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<v Speaker 2>She sold the house. You weren't there. She sold the house.

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<v Speaker 2>How much of the house?

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<v Speaker 7>Back to the decree real quick though, how much were

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<v Speaker 7>you supposed to get from the sale of the house.

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01:15:53.319 --> 01:15:56.000
<v Speaker 18>Let's get the heavange.

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01:15:56.039 --> 01:15:58.960
<v Speaker 7>Okay, So when she when she sold it, did she

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01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:00.000
<v Speaker 7>give you fifty percent?

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01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:02.600
<v Speaker 18>Absolutely not.

1492
01:16:02.920 --> 01:16:05.319
<v Speaker 7>Have you gone back to court and told the judge

1493
01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:07.720
<v Speaker 7>they won't talk to me.

1494
01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:12.159
<v Speaker 18>The judge won't talk to you, you know, they won't.

1495
01:16:12.359 --> 01:16:15.520
<v Speaker 18>They won't have to me any questions, and they keep

1496
01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:16.760
<v Speaker 18>telling me to fill out emotion.

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01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:20.399
<v Speaker 7>Well that's what you have to do, of course, John, explain,

1498
01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:23.680
<v Speaker 7>just explain in layman's terms what that means. You can't

1499
01:16:23.760 --> 01:16:25.960
<v Speaker 7>just knock on the court door and go up and

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01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.399
<v Speaker 7>talk to the judge. Under most cases, yeah.

1501
01:16:28.520 --> 01:16:31.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you guys have a case that's that's you know,

1502
01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:35.159
<v Speaker 2>at least been ongoing, and you just can't walk in

1503
01:16:35.199 --> 01:16:37.880
<v Speaker 2>and throw a new issue on the judge. There are

1504
01:16:37.920 --> 01:16:39.920
<v Speaker 2>procedures that have to be followed, and one of them

1505
01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:42.520
<v Speaker 2>is that you're gonna file emotion and put forth what

1506
01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:45.119
<v Speaker 2>you know your issue is, and then if the court

1507
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:47.159
<v Speaker 2>wants to set a hearing, then they'll drag your wife

1508
01:16:47.199 --> 01:16:50.039
<v Speaker 2>in there to attend and answer to the court, and

1509
01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:52.279
<v Speaker 2>she'll have an opportunity to put her side of the

1510
01:16:52.319 --> 01:16:55.439
<v Speaker 2>story down as well. So I'm guessing you guys did

1511
01:16:55.439 --> 01:16:56.880
<v Speaker 2>not have attorneys involved on this.

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01:16:58.119 --> 01:17:01.000
<v Speaker 18>Well, she did because I didn't have any money.

1513
01:17:02.600 --> 01:17:05.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, oh, you did everything wrong. I mean, the marital

1514
01:17:05.880 --> 01:17:08.119
<v Speaker 7>assets should have got you in an attorney. But it's

1515
01:17:08.119 --> 01:17:09.920
<v Speaker 7>too late. It's too late for that.

1516
01:17:10.880 --> 01:17:13.399
<v Speaker 2>Where is this? Where is this ex wife for yours?

1517
01:17:14.920 --> 01:17:16.680
<v Speaker 18>I don't know. I think she's in Florida.

1518
01:17:17.439 --> 01:17:19.279
<v Speaker 7>Well, that complicates the hell out of it.

1519
01:17:19.359 --> 01:17:21.000
<v Speaker 2>What state did all this go down in?

1520
01:17:21.079 --> 01:17:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Here?

1521
01:17:21.279 --> 01:17:21.920
<v Speaker 2>In Colorado?

1522
01:17:23.319 --> 01:17:26.640
<v Speaker 7>Yes, and she asconded with all the money.

1523
01:17:28.600 --> 01:17:31.239
<v Speaker 18>I don't know what she did with the money, but

1524
01:17:31.359 --> 01:17:34.399
<v Speaker 18>she's not still here. I looked into it. I looked

1525
01:17:34.479 --> 01:17:36.600
<v Speaker 18>into it. By myself a little bit. And I found

1526
01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:39.760
<v Speaker 18>out that the people that bought the home paid cash

1527
01:17:39.840 --> 01:17:40.359
<v Speaker 18>for it.

1528
01:17:41.720 --> 01:17:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Cash, But that doesn't really matter. It doesn't matter how

1529
01:17:44.319 --> 01:17:46.439
<v Speaker 2>they paid for the cash. I mean how they paid

1530
01:17:46.439 --> 01:17:48.079
<v Speaker 2>for the home. They could have taken out a loan,

1531
01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:51.680
<v Speaker 2>could have paid cash, could have brought a wheelbarrow of quarters.

1532
01:17:51.680 --> 01:17:52.359
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter.

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01:17:52.880 --> 01:17:55.039
<v Speaker 7>Does it work though? If he did file the motion

1534
01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:58.119
<v Speaker 7>John and I mean we're talking divorce court, I mean

1535
01:17:58.199 --> 01:18:01.359
<v Speaker 7>family law. But what I'm saying in general, you know,

1536
01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:04.319
<v Speaker 7>a decrease basically a judgment, and if it literally says

1537
01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:07.520
<v Speaker 7>he gets half of the house and she sold it

1538
01:18:07.560 --> 01:18:10.880
<v Speaker 7>and she takes off and he gets nothing at this point,

1539
01:18:11.159 --> 01:18:13.840
<v Speaker 7>regardless if it's a judgment for something else or this,

1540
01:18:14.520 --> 01:18:16.319
<v Speaker 7>how if she if he doesn't know where the hell

1541
01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:19.079
<v Speaker 7>she is, I mean, how does he possibly even get

1542
01:18:19.079 --> 01:18:21.199
<v Speaker 7>her to come back here? Or does he have to

1543
01:18:21.239 --> 01:18:22.760
<v Speaker 7>go find her in Florida?

1544
01:18:22.800 --> 01:18:25.279
<v Speaker 2>He might he might have to. It depends on whether

1545
01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:27.680
<v Speaker 2>and this is something I just don't know because I

1546
01:18:27.720 --> 01:18:30.560
<v Speaker 2>don't practice this kind of law, but I suspect that

1547
01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:34.960
<v Speaker 2>the court maintained some jurisdiction over the adjudication of that decree.

1548
01:18:35.399 --> 01:18:39.439
<v Speaker 2>So you know, she has violated the decree in taking

1549
01:18:39.479 --> 01:18:41.640
<v Speaker 2>all the money if it says what he says it says,

1550
01:18:42.359 --> 01:18:45.319
<v Speaker 2>and so basically you're seeking to haul her back into

1551
01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:50.119
<v Speaker 2>court to answer for her violation or contempt of that decree.

1552
01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:52.640
<v Speaker 7>I get that, But not knowing where she's at is

1553
01:18:52.960 --> 01:18:53.920
<v Speaker 7>problem number one.

1554
01:18:53.960 --> 01:18:55.880
<v Speaker 2>That is problem number one. If she still has an

1555
01:18:55.880 --> 01:18:59.199
<v Speaker 2>attorney on the case, that attorney, you know, might be

1556
01:18:59.439 --> 01:19:02.560
<v Speaker 2>able to service and compel her attendance because he is

1557
01:19:03.079 --> 01:19:05.840
<v Speaker 2>the attorney of record. Now he's withdrawn from the case,

1558
01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:08.600
<v Speaker 2>which is why a lot of attorneys withdraw at the

1559
01:19:08.680 --> 01:19:12.039
<v Speaker 2>end of a case so they can't be held to

1560
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:15.840
<v Speaker 2>him responsible forget the person back in. But I mean,

1561
01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:19.039
<v Speaker 2>there are interesting there are people that can locate people.

1562
01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, even Florida, it's still not you know, it's

1563
01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:26.079
<v Speaker 2>it's a real place. You can find people. They have

1564
01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:29.159
<v Speaker 2>bank accounts and jobs and properties and all that stuff

1565
01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:31.760
<v Speaker 2>down there as well. So go ahead, Mark, I know

1566
01:19:31.840 --> 01:19:32.319
<v Speaker 2>that Kim.

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01:19:32.520 --> 01:19:33.920
<v Speaker 10>I talked to Kim at the house a.

1568
01:19:33.840 --> 01:19:35.760
<v Speaker 7>Few tres we ever have him talked to Bonnie.

1569
01:19:35.800 --> 01:19:36.840
<v Speaker 10>That's what I was going to tell you.

1570
01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:39.880
<v Speaker 15>So Kim was on with I think Tom a few

1571
01:19:39.880 --> 01:19:43.359
<v Speaker 15>weeks ago. Kim, I think is on an Obama phone,

1572
01:19:43.399 --> 01:19:45.880
<v Speaker 15>if you will, and so by the time Bonnie came

1573
01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:49.640
<v Speaker 15>on with her advice, he had lost connection. I do

1574
01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:53.319
<v Speaker 15>have a response from Bonnie in writing about his case.

1575
01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:55.399
<v Speaker 7>If you want me to read it, well, I don't

1576
01:19:55.399 --> 01:19:57.600
<v Speaker 7>want you to read it verbatim. But let's get to

1577
01:19:57.640 --> 01:19:59.680
<v Speaker 7>the points of it. Let's take the break. We'll come

1578
01:19:59.720 --> 01:20:02.039
<v Speaker 7>back and see with the attorney had to say, You're

1579
01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:04.359
<v Speaker 7>gonna have to hang tight, Kim. We got two lines

1580
01:20:04.399 --> 01:20:07.479
<v Speaker 7>open three oh three seven one three eight two five five.

1581
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<v Speaker 7>My god, you couldn't have done anything worse. You couldn't

1582
01:20:11.479 --> 01:20:15.600
<v Speaker 7>have done anything Wronger, Yeah, I'll say it Wronger, it's horrible.

1583
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<v Speaker 4>three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 7>All right three oh three seven one three eight two

1594
01:20:54.199 --> 01:20:56.960
<v Speaker 7>five five two lines open. You can ripped off. Take

1595
01:20:56.960 --> 01:20:59.000
<v Speaker 7>an advantage of We want to hear from you. Kim

1596
01:20:59.039 --> 01:21:03.680
<v Speaker 7>called in and apparently he had a divorce. His ex

1597
01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:06.800
<v Speaker 7>wife basically scammed them out of the money when she.

1598
01:21:06.840 --> 01:21:09.279
<v Speaker 2>Sold the house she moved to Florida.

1599
01:21:09.319 --> 01:21:12.079
<v Speaker 7>He never got his half of the money and apparently

1600
01:21:12.119 --> 01:21:14.960
<v Speaker 7>according to the divorce decree he was supposed to get half.

1601
01:21:15.119 --> 01:21:17.800
<v Speaker 7>He has no idea where she lives. We got Bonnie

1602
01:21:17.800 --> 01:21:22.520
<v Speaker 7>Shields involved in Bonnie. Suzanne gave us some information and

1603
01:21:22.640 --> 01:21:24.479
<v Speaker 7>emailed go ahead and read it. Let's see with Bonnie.

1604
01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:26.319
<v Speaker 10>So, Kim, this this is Anne.

1605
01:21:26.359 --> 01:21:28.159
<v Speaker 15>You and I talked on the phone a few days ago,

1606
01:21:28.239 --> 01:21:29.600
<v Speaker 15>and I meant to get back to you. This is

1607
01:21:29.600 --> 01:21:32.359
<v Speaker 15>what Bonnie said about your call. She remembered your call.

1608
01:21:32.800 --> 01:21:35.079
<v Speaker 15>If there was an order for her to give him

1609
01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:38.720
<v Speaker 15>money and she didn't, he can file emotion for contempt.

1610
01:21:38.960 --> 01:21:41.119
<v Speaker 15>He asked to be able to find her through and

1611
01:21:41.279 --> 01:21:42.840
<v Speaker 15>in another state is tricky.

1612
01:21:43.359 --> 01:21:43.720
<v Speaker 10>I'm sorry.

1613
01:21:43.880 --> 01:21:46.279
<v Speaker 15>Able to find her though and in another state is tricky.

1614
01:21:46.520 --> 01:21:48.960
<v Speaker 15>If she is still in Colorado, it's a lot easier.

1615
01:21:49.159 --> 01:21:51.680
<v Speaker 15>He could also get a judgment for the amount and

1616
01:21:51.760 --> 01:21:54.840
<v Speaker 15>maybe lean property if she has bought any. It's not

1617
01:21:55.039 --> 01:21:58.600
<v Speaker 15>really easy questions. I think I came in late to

1618
01:21:58.680 --> 01:22:00.399
<v Speaker 15>the talk, and I really would have a lot of

1619
01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:02.760
<v Speaker 15>questions before I'd feel good about my answers.

1620
01:22:03.039 --> 01:22:05.119
<v Speaker 10>Please tell him he can call me if he wants.

1621
01:22:05.359 --> 01:22:06.279
<v Speaker 2>You should call her.

1622
01:22:06.439 --> 01:22:08.000
<v Speaker 7>She'll talk to you off air, Kim.

1623
01:22:08.079 --> 01:22:10.760
<v Speaker 2>But the one question I have is how long ago

1624
01:22:10.920 --> 01:22:11.359
<v Speaker 2>was this.

1625
01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:15.520
<v Speaker 18>That I got divorced? Yeah?

1626
01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:17.960
<v Speaker 2>When was the decree? Like literally.

1627
01:22:19.079 --> 01:22:21.720
<v Speaker 18>I sent and I sent in an emotion, but apparently

1628
01:22:21.800 --> 01:22:24.279
<v Speaker 18>I got denied because I did something wrong.

1629
01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:28.439
<v Speaker 2>When was the final When was the final divorce decree

1630
01:22:28.520 --> 01:22:29.680
<v Speaker 2>issued by the court? Yeah?

1631
01:22:29.720 --> 01:22:33.880
<v Speaker 7>How long ago? Pre COVID, during COVID, after COVID, Let's

1632
01:22:33.880 --> 01:22:34.359
<v Speaker 7>start there.

1633
01:22:35.800 --> 01:22:40.000
<v Speaker 18>It was that motion for this is motion for financial distance.

1634
01:22:40.880 --> 01:22:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

1635
01:22:41.279 --> 01:22:42.479
<v Speaker 10>Did she sell the house?

1636
01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:45.840
<v Speaker 18>That was July twenty twenty four?

1637
01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:49.199
<v Speaker 2>Okay? So, and and how long had you guys been

1638
01:22:49.199 --> 01:22:52.239
<v Speaker 2>divorced before she sold the house? Six months.

1639
01:22:53.720 --> 01:22:58.439
<v Speaker 18>At least? Yes? Well, yea almost a year.

1640
01:22:58.319 --> 01:23:03.680
<v Speaker 2>But almost a year okay, okay, so late twenty three ish.

1641
01:23:03.760 --> 01:23:07.159
<v Speaker 7>So basically you need to hire an attorney, Kim. I

1642
01:23:07.199 --> 01:23:09.119
<v Speaker 7>mean you can call up and talk to Bonnie.

1643
01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:12.520
<v Speaker 18>Tom, Tom, I don't have the money.

1644
01:23:12.720 --> 01:23:17.560
<v Speaker 7>I understand, Kim, listen, maybe after you talk to Bonnie. Maybe,

1645
01:23:17.600 --> 01:23:20.439
<v Speaker 7>And I trust me, I'm not promising you anything because

1646
01:23:20.920 --> 01:23:24.359
<v Speaker 7>you know, most family law attorneys don't operate this way.

1647
01:23:25.079 --> 01:23:27.880
<v Speaker 7>At the beginning, she might have. In other words, she

1648
01:23:27.920 --> 01:23:30.039
<v Speaker 7>would have never have let this happen if you had

1649
01:23:30.039 --> 01:23:33.880
<v Speaker 7>an attorney. Quite frankly, you let this woman basically kick.

1650
01:23:33.720 --> 01:23:34.359
<v Speaker 2>You in the face.

1651
01:23:34.640 --> 01:23:36.560
<v Speaker 7>So I'll put it like that. You let your ex

1652
01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:38.840
<v Speaker 7>wife kick you in the face. She kicked you out

1653
01:23:38.920 --> 01:23:41.560
<v Speaker 7>of your house. You slept in the barn, then she

1654
01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:44.479
<v Speaker 7>sold the house, and a year later you're calling us.

1655
01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:46.840
<v Speaker 7>And the only reason I'm yelling at you is I'm

1656
01:23:46.880 --> 01:23:49.479
<v Speaker 7>frustrated with you. How come you didn't do anything for

1657
01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:50.840
<v Speaker 7>yourself all this time?

1658
01:23:52.399 --> 01:23:54.680
<v Speaker 18>I couldn't. I had no money to get an attorney.

1659
01:23:54.800 --> 01:23:56.239
<v Speaker 18>I just had a stroke. Tom.

1660
01:23:56.600 --> 01:23:59.880
<v Speaker 7>Okay, well there's something I can appreciate at least, right.

1661
01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:01.600
<v Speaker 2>I want you to call.

1662
01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:05.000
<v Speaker 7>Up and talk to Bonnie, okay, and then follow up

1663
01:24:05.039 --> 01:24:08.880
<v Speaker 7>with us. Follow up with us. The biggest problem is

1664
01:24:08.920 --> 01:24:11.520
<v Speaker 7>gonna be number one. And Bonnie said that in the email.

1665
01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:15.359
<v Speaker 7>She said it's gonna be tough to find her. Now,

1666
01:24:15.399 --> 01:24:17.560
<v Speaker 7>if she went out with that money and bought some

1667
01:24:17.600 --> 01:24:21.319
<v Speaker 7>property somewhere, that's gonna make it a little easier. But

1668
01:24:21.560 --> 01:24:26.079
<v Speaker 7>if she's running a place somewhere, especially using her maiden

1669
01:24:26.159 --> 01:24:28.840
<v Speaker 7>name or something different, now, I mean, this could be

1670
01:24:28.840 --> 01:24:32.279
<v Speaker 7>a nightmare for you with no assets trying to find her.

1671
01:24:32.560 --> 01:24:34.600
<v Speaker 10>Or she might have spent it already it's been a

1672
01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:36.319
<v Speaker 10>year mark, or she could.

1673
01:24:36.159 --> 01:24:38.439
<v Speaker 7>Have spent it, or I mean gave it to her kids.

1674
01:24:38.479 --> 01:24:40.800
<v Speaker 7>I mean, my god, we have no idea what happened here.

1675
01:24:41.319 --> 01:24:42.600
<v Speaker 2>We just have no idea.

1676
01:24:43.079 --> 01:24:46.279
<v Speaker 7>So we're gonna give you Bonnie's number, Okay, Kelly's gonna

1677
01:24:46.279 --> 01:24:47.560
<v Speaker 7>give it to you off air hold tight.

1678
01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:49.800
<v Speaker 2>I hate getting mad. I feel bad. The guy had

1679
01:24:49.800 --> 01:24:51.319
<v Speaker 2>a stroke too, But that woman just.

1680
01:24:51.680 --> 01:24:54.960
<v Speaker 7>God, I mean, she just totally took advantage of them,

1681
01:24:55.000 --> 01:25:01.079
<v Speaker 7>get an attorney, walking into a divorce with one having

1682
01:25:01.119 --> 01:25:03.520
<v Speaker 7>an attorney and the other having nothing.

1683
01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:07.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's insanity. It's a recipe for disaster.

1684
01:25:07.520 --> 01:25:09.000
<v Speaker 10>I'm surprised that's even legal.

1685
01:25:09.600 --> 01:25:14.039
<v Speaker 2>It's legal. And and I guarantee you that he you know,

1686
01:25:14.079 --> 01:25:16.439
<v Speaker 2>when they went to their final hearing and stuff to

1687
01:25:16.560 --> 01:25:19.960
<v Speaker 2>judge and you know, inquired about whether he understood and

1688
01:25:20.039 --> 01:25:22.399
<v Speaker 2>agreed to everything, and he was like, yep, yep, yep,

1689
01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:26.560
<v Speaker 2>And you know so, I mean now he's saying no,

1690
01:25:26.760 --> 01:25:29.800
<v Speaker 2>but then no, not only that.

1691
01:25:29.640 --> 01:25:32.159
<v Speaker 7>To it there there's no doubt. There is no doubt

1692
01:25:32.640 --> 01:25:35.000
<v Speaker 7>he could have paid for the attorney with the marriage

1693
01:25:35.039 --> 01:25:36.439
<v Speaker 7>lassets such as the house.

1694
01:25:36.760 --> 01:25:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course he could have.

1695
01:25:38.399 --> 01:25:40.920
<v Speaker 7>So the fact he didn't have one. And I said it,

1696
01:25:41.039 --> 01:25:42.560
<v Speaker 7>you know, not really jokingly.

1697
01:25:42.920 --> 01:25:44.800
<v Speaker 2>I bet she was. Remember he was out in the

1698
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<v Speaker 2>barn dominium.

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<v Speaker 7>She's in the house. I bet she's like, Hey, if

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01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:50.720
<v Speaker 7>you don't get an attorney, I'll come busy on Saturday

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01:25:50.800 --> 01:25:54.039
<v Speaker 7>nights or something. Somehow she got him not to get

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01:25:54.039 --> 01:25:57.600
<v Speaker 7>an attorney. She truly took advantage of them. And it's

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01:25:57.680 --> 01:25:59.640
<v Speaker 7>in it's crap, Kurt, what's going on with you?

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<v Speaker 18>Hello?

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01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:04.199
<v Speaker 2>Aker?

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01:26:04.319 --> 01:26:04.960
<v Speaker 7>What's going on?

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01:26:06.199 --> 01:26:06.279
<v Speaker 1>So?

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01:26:07.039 --> 01:26:09.920
<v Speaker 6>I am a project manager for City of Denver and

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01:26:10.520 --> 01:26:13.600
<v Speaker 6>we are building a new recreation center in the Westwood

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01:26:14.079 --> 01:26:18.159
<v Speaker 6>Westwood area southeast southwest Denver, and we have a problem

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01:26:18.199 --> 01:26:21.680
<v Speaker 6>with Comcast and Loomen and I'm hoping you can help

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01:26:21.720 --> 01:26:25.319
<v Speaker 6>out with We had about half a dozen old power

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01:26:25.359 --> 01:26:28.119
<v Speaker 6>poles on the site that we're demoing, and Excel came

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01:26:28.199 --> 01:26:31.399
<v Speaker 6>right out and removed the poles, no problem. But there's

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01:26:31.399 --> 01:26:34.920
<v Speaker 6>one pole that has all the Internet lines from Loomen

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01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:38.600
<v Speaker 6>and Comcast, and we cannot get hold of anyone that

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01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:41.319
<v Speaker 6>will come out and remove them. That we have tried

1718
01:26:41.359 --> 01:26:45.920
<v Speaker 6>and tried, me and the general contractor, and we're trying

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01:26:45.960 --> 01:26:47.720
<v Speaker 6>to do them a favor. We don't want to just

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01:26:48.039 --> 01:26:52.279
<v Speaker 6>demo the poll and lose internet for all the neighbors

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01:26:52.279 --> 01:26:54.319
<v Speaker 6>in the area. We're trying to be good citizens.

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01:26:54.520 --> 01:26:56.039
<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of odd.

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01:26:56.079 --> 01:26:58.239
<v Speaker 7>Well, I guess it's not really odd that you have

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01:26:58.359 --> 01:27:02.640
<v Speaker 7>basically Century Lank who's now Luhmen, and then Exfinity on

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01:27:02.760 --> 01:27:07.279
<v Speaker 7>the same or Comcast on the same Susanne. I would

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01:27:07.319 --> 01:27:09.119
<v Speaker 7>like to know whose poll it is, because it's going

1727
01:27:09.199 --> 01:27:12.079
<v Speaker 7>to come down to that, I wonder. And it's definitely

1728
01:27:12.079 --> 01:27:14.600
<v Speaker 7>on an easement right along with everything else.

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01:27:15.880 --> 01:27:18.159
<v Speaker 6>It's it's it's it's actually in the city. It's a

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01:27:18.239 --> 01:27:20.720
<v Speaker 6>kind of a combination of properties that we're put together

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01:27:20.760 --> 01:27:23.279
<v Speaker 6>to get the site that it's a it's an Excel

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01:27:23.399 --> 01:27:27.720
<v Speaker 6>pole that Excel removed the high voltage lines on and

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01:27:28.680 --> 01:27:31.199
<v Speaker 6>but the remaining lines are the Internet, so they are Do.

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01:27:31.199 --> 01:27:35.199
<v Speaker 7>You think those remaining lines are actually feeding homes or

1735
01:27:35.239 --> 01:27:36.119
<v Speaker 7>businesses though.

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01:27:36.560 --> 01:27:39.319
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, definitely, they're feeding homes in the general area.

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01:27:39.399 --> 01:27:41.800
<v Speaker 7>Yes, jeez, that is a crazy one. How long you've

1738
01:27:41.840 --> 01:27:43.640
<v Speaker 7>been trying to do it. We do have an angel

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01:27:43.720 --> 01:27:45.680
<v Speaker 7>at Century Lenk right or Lumen.

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01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:47.000
<v Speaker 11>Definitely, Luman.

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01:27:47.199 --> 01:27:50.039
<v Speaker 15>I'm not sure about Comcasts, but luhman, I have a

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01:27:50.119 --> 01:27:51.359
<v Speaker 15>contact for Yeah.

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01:27:51.359 --> 01:27:54.319
<v Speaker 7>I didn't even realize funny enough to Comcast had stuff

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01:27:54.319 --> 01:27:56.279
<v Speaker 7>in the sky. Keep going, I'm sorry, man.

1745
01:27:56.640 --> 01:27:58.439
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, no, it's hard. It's hard to get hold of

1746
01:27:58.439 --> 01:28:00.439
<v Speaker 6>anybody that I've at least been on the phone for

1747
01:28:00.640 --> 01:28:04.920
<v Speaker 6>five or six hours with their customer service. And we

1748
01:28:05.039 --> 01:28:07.439
<v Speaker 6>do have one name of the field person that we

1749
01:28:07.560 --> 01:28:10.920
<v Speaker 6>got a cell phone number of and email, but they

1750
01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:14.479
<v Speaker 6>just goes to us and same thing, Looman. We had

1751
01:28:14.479 --> 01:28:16.920
<v Speaker 6>someone who seemed very responsive, sound like he was going

1752
01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:19.279
<v Speaker 6>to come out and do the work that anticipated.

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01:28:20.520 --> 01:28:23.880
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so listen, we actually have Suzanne. This would be

1754
01:28:23.920 --> 01:28:27.520
<v Speaker 7>perfect for our Comcast guy too. This is something he

1755
01:28:27.560 --> 01:28:29.880
<v Speaker 7>could truly get involved in because he's a field guy.

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01:28:29.920 --> 01:28:31.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm talking about Snow.

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01:28:32.039 --> 01:28:37.079
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so email Snow and also email Loomen our angel

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01:28:37.159 --> 01:28:39.199
<v Speaker 7>over there. But hold on a second, man, we got

1759
01:28:39.199 --> 01:28:43.319
<v Speaker 7>to at least get your contact information. The address or

1760
01:28:43.359 --> 01:28:45.760
<v Speaker 7>you know, whatever the plot or whatever it is where

1761
01:28:45.760 --> 01:28:48.279
<v Speaker 7>you're dealing with Kelly, make sure we get all the

1762
01:28:48.319 --> 01:28:52.800
<v Speaker 7>information there. Yeah, that's crazy. You sure don't want to

1763
01:28:52.880 --> 01:28:56.439
<v Speaker 7>just take it down. And all these businesses have no Internet.

1764
01:28:56.479 --> 01:28:59.359
<v Speaker 7>In fact, there could actually be some liability there if

1765
01:28:59.359 --> 01:29:00.880
<v Speaker 7>they did do that. I couldn't there. I mean I

1766
01:29:00.920 --> 01:29:04.119
<v Speaker 7>realized he works for Denver and you have governmental immunity.

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01:29:04.159 --> 01:29:06.680
<v Speaker 7>But John, just as a thought, I mean, if you

1768
01:29:06.760 --> 01:29:10.159
<v Speaker 7>were trying to demo an area and there was something

1769
01:29:10.199 --> 01:29:11.840
<v Speaker 7>like this, I mean, how long do you got to

1770
01:29:11.880 --> 01:29:14.800
<v Speaker 7>play ball? I mean it's kind of crazy, right, I

1771
01:29:14.840 --> 01:29:16.760
<v Speaker 7>mean to think of it in those terms. You might

1772
01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:19.920
<v Speaker 7>have to play ball till someone does something. Yeah, it's tricky.

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01:29:20.560 --> 01:29:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you kind of wonder you know where that line is?

1774
01:29:25.399 --> 01:29:28.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, when is enough due diligence to make somebody

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01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:29.000
<v Speaker 2>remove that?

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01:29:29.199 --> 01:29:29.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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01:29:29.399 --> 01:29:31.560
<v Speaker 7>One is enough time? Enough time?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean where where's the end of the row?

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<v Speaker 19>All right?

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<v Speaker 7>All right, three oh three seven one three eight two

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01:30:41.960 --> 01:30:47.439
<v Speaker 7>five five. You know they finally charged that runner in Virginia,

1796
01:30:47.520 --> 01:30:51.399
<v Speaker 7>the high school runner charged with assault after the baton strike.

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01:30:51.479 --> 01:30:54.159
<v Speaker 7>It was one of those relay races and they add

1798
01:30:54.199 --> 01:30:57.359
<v Speaker 7>the baton and this woman just clocks the other one

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01:30:57.399 --> 01:30:59.079
<v Speaker 7>in the head. It happened about a week ago, but

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01:30:59.239 --> 01:31:03.199
<v Speaker 7>finally they pressed charges. She's like, it's an accident. Anybody

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01:31:03.199 --> 01:31:06.439
<v Speaker 7>that watched it, there is no way that was an accident.

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01:31:06.479 --> 01:31:09.000
<v Speaker 2>She's up there saying I lost my balance. She knocked

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01:31:09.039 --> 01:31:11.840
<v Speaker 2>her on back. Oh man, the whole thing is like

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01:31:11.920 --> 01:31:15.159
<v Speaker 2>taking a bat and hitting somebody. Brady winding up for

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01:31:15.199 --> 01:31:16.479
<v Speaker 2>a throw. You know, well, you.

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01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:18.479
<v Speaker 7>Got to be so mad in the middle of a

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01:31:18.520 --> 01:31:22.840
<v Speaker 7>relay race where you actually start swinging at the other people.

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01:31:22.840 --> 01:31:25.840
<v Speaker 7>There had to be something going on besides the race,

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01:31:25.920 --> 01:31:29.399
<v Speaker 7>maybe like a boyfriend was involved or something. I mean,

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01:31:29.439 --> 01:31:33.840
<v Speaker 7>you just don't start whacking people in a race with you.

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01:31:33.880 --> 01:31:35.359
<v Speaker 7>I've never seen anything like it.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, it looks like they were from the same school.

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01:31:37.279 --> 01:31:38.399
<v Speaker 10>The jerseys were the same.

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<v Speaker 1>God.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, okay, you know what, then that even proves my point.

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01:31:42.399 --> 01:31:45.319
<v Speaker 7>More something was going on. I bet it boy was

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01:31:45.359 --> 01:31:47.720
<v Speaker 7>involved from different schools.

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<v Speaker 10>Mark, I can't relate to this. But she's she claims

1819
01:31:50.880 --> 01:31:51.920
<v Speaker 10>it was just an accident.

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01:31:51.960 --> 01:31:54.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's up against salt charges.

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01:31:54.159 --> 01:31:54.880
<v Speaker 18>Yeah she is.

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01:31:55.039 --> 01:31:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she can say that all she wants. But unfortunately

1823
01:31:58.000 --> 01:32:01.319
<v Speaker 2>it's on video and you can all see that there

1824
01:32:01.359 --> 01:32:04.199
<v Speaker 2>was nothing. Actually she didn't. She didn't lose her balance

1825
01:32:04.279 --> 01:32:08.359
<v Speaker 2>one little bit. I mean it was clearly she reared

1826
01:32:08.439 --> 01:32:10.239
<v Speaker 2>back and whacked the girl.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, God, there had to be so much more

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01:32:13.119 --> 01:32:16.520
<v Speaker 7>to it. I bet you there was some kind of

1829
01:32:16.560 --> 01:32:19.199
<v Speaker 7>a boyfriend involved, or a girlfriend or whatever it is.

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01:32:19.560 --> 01:32:22.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean she was close, like really close to her.

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01:32:22.399 --> 01:32:25.279
<v Speaker 2>They were all bunched up or something, and it just

1832
01:32:25.479 --> 01:32:28.800
<v Speaker 2>brushed her. But I mean she tried to drop her. Yeah,

1833
01:32:28.840 --> 01:32:31.439
<v Speaker 2>she's taking a swing and she did drop her. She

1834
01:32:31.479 --> 01:32:34.600
<v Speaker 2>did veered off and collapsed over there and says she

1835
01:32:34.680 --> 01:32:35.640
<v Speaker 2>had a concussion.

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<v Speaker 9>So beeing somebody that ran track in college, Oh you did.

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01:32:39.520 --> 01:32:42.199
<v Speaker 9>I've never ever seen somebody get hit with a baton.

1838
01:32:43.600 --> 01:32:45.359
<v Speaker 9>Sometimes you get spiked.

1839
01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:47.039
<v Speaker 10>Stuff like that.

1840
01:32:47.159 --> 01:32:53.359
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you hit somebody maybe like you know, like on

1841
01:32:53.439 --> 01:32:53.960
<v Speaker 2>a farm.

1842
01:32:54.039 --> 01:32:54.359
<v Speaker 1>Though.

1843
01:32:55.159 --> 01:32:56.359
<v Speaker 2>Did you grow up in Iowa?

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01:32:56.479 --> 01:32:59.840
<v Speaker 7>Well yes, yeah, I was like, this is like New

1845
01:32:59.880 --> 01:33:00.800
<v Speaker 7>York City stuff.

1846
01:33:01.039 --> 01:33:05.479
<v Speaker 15>Okay, you wouldn't understand this stuff that's normally New York racing.

1847
01:33:05.479 --> 01:33:07.399
<v Speaker 2>In Denver that happens every day.

1848
01:33:08.039 --> 01:33:09.880
<v Speaker 7>We did that all the time back in the city.

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01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:10.199
<v Speaker 18>Yeah.

1850
01:33:10.359 --> 01:33:12.680
<v Speaker 2>When I ran track and field, I remember.

1851
01:33:12.359 --> 01:33:15.560
<v Speaker 7>Getting mugged a few times coming around in Jersey.

1852
01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I remember my daughter played volleyball growing up in high

1853
01:33:19.920 --> 01:33:22.920
<v Speaker 2>school and stuff. And one of their first trips they

1854
01:33:22.920 --> 01:33:26.399
<v Speaker 2>took into a inner city Denver, Oh yeah, you know,

1855
01:33:26.760 --> 01:33:31.880
<v Speaker 2>volleyball program and and it was something they had never

1856
01:33:32.079 --> 01:33:35.319
<v Speaker 2>experienced before in their lives. I mean, these girls were

1857
01:33:35.359 --> 01:33:39.560
<v Speaker 2>calling them names, and brandisically threatening them and stuff, and

1858
01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:43.600
<v Speaker 2>it was crazy, crazy and all these little girls are like,

1859
01:33:43.720 --> 01:33:46.880
<v Speaker 2>what the hell is going on here? You know? It

1860
01:33:46.920 --> 01:33:47.359
<v Speaker 2>was bad.

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01:33:47.439 --> 01:33:48.399
<v Speaker 7>How did they end up doing?

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01:33:48.439 --> 01:33:51.359
<v Speaker 2>Did they win got smoked. They got smoked. So it worked.

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01:33:51.479 --> 01:33:53.560
<v Speaker 2>If my daughter's going to kill me for this one,

1864
01:33:53.600 --> 01:33:54.880
<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to tell it.

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01:33:54.920 --> 01:33:58.159
<v Speaker 7>So you know Adeline very well. She's done some work

1866
01:33:58.239 --> 01:34:01.359
<v Speaker 7>for you. And he's up in law school in fact,

1867
01:34:01.359 --> 01:34:03.560
<v Speaker 7>her last year right now, she'll be taking the bar

1868
01:34:03.600 --> 01:34:07.960
<v Speaker 7>this year. But when she was probably seventeen, she was

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01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:11.319
<v Speaker 7>in taekwondo. She had a third degree, right, And when

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01:34:11.319 --> 01:34:14.560
<v Speaker 7>you're sparring in Douglas County inside your own school and

1871
01:34:14.600 --> 01:34:17.279
<v Speaker 7>other schools around, she was pretty good. So I mean

1872
01:34:17.560 --> 01:34:21.439
<v Speaker 7>she decided that she wanted to start sparring, meaning.

1873
01:34:21.640 --> 01:34:23.319
<v Speaker 2>Like real competition, right.

1874
01:34:23.840 --> 01:34:26.680
<v Speaker 7>So we're like, okay, whatever, So we go out, we

1875
01:34:26.720 --> 01:34:29.439
<v Speaker 7>buy whatever equipment. Don't get me going on that part.

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01:34:30.079 --> 01:34:32.880
<v Speaker 7>So we go to the first one. We drive down.

1877
01:34:32.920 --> 01:34:36.920
<v Speaker 7>It's somewhere like in Colfax in Denver. We're in Hoodlum territory, man,

1878
01:34:36.960 --> 01:34:39.720
<v Speaker 7>and I am not kidding, and it is packed. It's

1879
01:34:39.800 --> 01:34:42.760
<v Speaker 7>like the scene in the original Karate Kid. There's like

1880
01:34:42.800 --> 01:34:46.399
<v Speaker 7>a million people there. There's like different rings going on everything.

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01:34:47.039 --> 01:34:54.279
<v Speaker 7>Her first sparring was with this person at a pueblo.

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01:34:55.039 --> 01:35:00.199
<v Speaker 7>And when I say mean name calling, just like like

1883
01:35:01.239 --> 01:35:05.000
<v Speaker 7>Addie had never witnessed coming from Franktown and Castle Rock area,

1884
01:35:05.239 --> 01:35:10.079
<v Speaker 7>had never witnessed anything like this before ever. Hell Susanna

1885
01:35:10.119 --> 01:35:11.800
<v Speaker 7>and I were terrified for her life.

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01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:16.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean this girl was mean, I mean really mean.

1887
01:35:17.359 --> 01:35:20.399
<v Speaker 2>They got in there. She beat the living she got

1888
01:35:20.520 --> 01:35:25.560
<v Speaker 2>but handed to her dog, brought her boyfriend along.

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01:35:25.840 --> 01:35:29.840
<v Speaker 7>The boyfriend was there to witness the beating, and uh,

1890
01:35:30.079 --> 01:35:34.319
<v Speaker 7>let me tell you, that was the last time she

1891
01:35:34.560 --> 01:35:36.960
<v Speaker 7>sparred outside of Douglas County.

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01:35:37.319 --> 01:35:40.840
<v Speaker 2>So I feel for your dog. Exactly the same kind

1893
01:35:40.840 --> 01:35:43.920
<v Speaker 2>of outcome. It was. It was brutal. These kids were shocked.

1894
01:35:44.359 --> 01:35:46.960
<v Speaker 2>They were like, what in the heck have we been

1895
01:35:47.239 --> 01:35:48.159
<v Speaker 2>dropped into here?

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<v Speaker 8>And that was before transgender people were allowed to do it.

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01:35:51.479 --> 01:35:54.520
<v Speaker 2>They didn't even it didn't really matter. I mean, these

1898
01:35:54.520 --> 01:35:59.880
<v Speaker 2>girls were they were bigger, they were tougher, tougher, they

1899
01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:03.239
<v Speaker 2>were aggressive, they were mean, they were calling him names.

1900
01:36:03.279 --> 01:36:05.079
<v Speaker 2>It was it was bad.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey man, I'll tell you we had Troy back in

1902
01:36:07.920 --> 01:36:10.600
<v Speaker 7>my middle school, eighth grade. I'll tell you there wasn't

1903
01:36:10.640 --> 01:36:13.920
<v Speaker 7>anybody in the world that would fight Troy. He was

1904
01:36:14.039 --> 01:36:17.920
<v Speaker 7>just the meanest SLB. It just didn't matter. You would

1905
01:36:17.920 --> 01:36:20.800
<v Speaker 7>be insane to fight Troy. Troy wanted to fight this

1906
01:36:20.840 --> 01:36:23.960
<v Speaker 7>one kid after school, and the kid tried to run away,

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<v Speaker 7>and he was so terrified he pulled a knife out

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<v Speaker 7>on Troy, and Troy ended up stabbing the kid.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's not even the one that got in trouble

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<v Speaker 2>because the other kid brought the knife.

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<v Speaker 7>But we all knew those kids where you'd be insane

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<v Speaker 7>to fight them. I mean they'll kill.

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<v Speaker 2>You, literally, they'll kill you, right, all right?

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<v Speaker 7>Hey Bernard, what is your comment on the Kurt issue

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<v Speaker 7>with the telephone polls and what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 19>Well, there's two fighting. The City of Denver could write

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<v Speaker 19>excelent letter and ask him to know.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, of course, yeah this guy, this guy wants to

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<v Speaker 7>get on with the demo and knock it out like

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<v Speaker 7>you know tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Though.

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<v Speaker 7>I get you're right though the city of Denver could

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<v Speaker 7>get involved.

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, but he's been screwing Ruthers for fun a while, right.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think so, honestly, But it doesn't matter. I

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<v Speaker 7>agree with you one hundred percent. If anybody could get

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<v Speaker 7>their attention, it's going to be I was going to

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<v Speaker 7>say the mayor, but honestly, I don't think he could

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<v Speaker 7>get anybody's attention.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 19>The other thing is that each one of those companies

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<v Speaker 19>that have a stell from the poll write them a

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<v Speaker 19>letter and say you've been trying to get you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 19>talking to your local people. They've been giving the run round,

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<v Speaker 19>and that they've got, you know, ten days in the ring.

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<v Speaker 7>Rich Hey, but why do you why are you even

1939
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<v Speaker 7>going there? Meaning have you had to deal with this before?

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<v Speaker 19>Why I'm going to construction engine there for years?

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<v Speaker 1>Got it? Well?

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<v Speaker 7>See, we know, we literally know two people we call

1943
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<v Speaker 7>them angels, one at each and one of them is

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01:37:55.239 --> 01:37:59.520
<v Speaker 7>a guy that literally does exactly this. He either builds out

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01:37:59.640 --> 01:38:03.680
<v Speaker 7>or take down for century Link or Loomis or whatever

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<v Speaker 7>they're called now. And so I have a feeling this

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<v Speaker 7>will get handled in the next couple of days just

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<v Speaker 7>through our angels. But I appreciate it under NORGL circumstances.

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<v Speaker 7>You're absolutely right. I mean, basically you got to just

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<v Speaker 7>go contact them and at some point maybe just drive

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<v Speaker 7>down to a local office.

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<v Speaker 19>Right. But if you send in the letter and nothing happened,

1953
01:38:25.319 --> 01:38:26.880
<v Speaker 19>at least you got something going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you definitely do.

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<v Speaker 7>I agree with that one hundred percent, Ben art Hey,

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<v Speaker 7>I appreciate the call man three oh three seven one

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<v Speaker 7>three eight two five five Artists, I promise you're up

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<v Speaker 7>right after this? Got two lines open, three zero three Martino,

1959
01:38:42.079 --> 01:38:48.720
<v Speaker 7>we want to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 4>Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing

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01:38:52.119 --> 01:38:52.720
<v Speaker 4>dot com.

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<v Speaker 11>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

1963
01:38:58.119 --> 01:39:01.680
<v Speaker 4>Time for an insurance check up, free obligation comparison call

1964
01:39:01.800 --> 01:39:05.119
<v Speaker 4>Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of

1965
01:39:05.119 --> 01:39:07.840
<v Speaker 4>insurance companies find out now three oh three seven to

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<v Speaker 4>seven to one.

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<v Speaker 7>Help.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

1969
01:39:11.600 --> 01:39:14.039
<v Speaker 4>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

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<v Speaker 4>home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 7>All Right, three oh three seven one three a two

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<v Speaker 7>five five two lines open. Hey, Kelly, is that that

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<v Speaker 7>same guy? Don different guy? Update that because mine says

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<v Speaker 7>don on here? But anyhow, Artists, what's going on with you? Artists?

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<v Speaker 20>Okay?

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<v Speaker 6>I need a referral to a car from Colorado to Mississippi.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, don't want to get ripped off again like my

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01:39:45.279 --> 01:39:47.560
<v Speaker 2>son did two years ago? Got it?

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<v Speaker 18>What this virtue dies?

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<v Speaker 2>So here's what I do?

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<v Speaker 19>Can you recommend the company.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's not a company, it's a person. We know

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<v Speaker 7>Rod with Jfarcars. Here's what Rod's gonna do. He's gonna

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01:39:58.159 --> 01:39:59.640
<v Speaker 7>mark it up a little so, I mean he might

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01:39:59.720 --> 01:40:02.760
<v Speaker 7>charge fifty hundred bucks whatever it is, but he's going

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01:40:02.840 --> 01:40:05.039
<v Speaker 7>to go on to a site that they use all

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<v Speaker 7>the time. JFR Cars ships cars all over the country

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<v Speaker 7>and they're part of a group of people that can

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01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:14.840
<v Speaker 7>go on and they know when a certain company they

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01:40:14.880 --> 01:40:18.239
<v Speaker 7>trust has a truck in the area, and basically they

1992
01:40:18.279 --> 01:40:21.079
<v Speaker 7>grab that truck, they get the best price and get

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<v Speaker 7>it done. And I mean it's going to be ensured.

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<v Speaker 7>Nothing's going to happen. It's going to be the best

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<v Speaker 7>way to go. But that's ah. I want you to

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<v Speaker 7>call Rid up and then he'll get it for you.

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<v Speaker 7>And he'll also find you the best price because he's

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<v Speaker 7>going to be looking at all the different pricing as well.

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<v Speaker 18>He's like a broker.

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<v Speaker 7>Then, yeah, he's like a broker, but he ships cars

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<v Speaker 7>personally all over the country.

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<v Speaker 2>He knows all the shippers.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, yeah, he deals directly with the shippers.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 7>He doesn't own his own shipping company, but he deals

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01:40:52.079 --> 01:40:54.159
<v Speaker 7>with all the good ones. So he's going to tell

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<v Speaker 7>you which one to use.

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<v Speaker 20>What's JFR cars.

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<v Speaker 7>Three h three asks for Rod three oh three five

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<v Speaker 7>two zero six eight three nine. You can also find

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<v Speaker 7>JFR on our referral list at referral list dot com.

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<v Speaker 17>I was looking for that.

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<v Speaker 18>I couldn't find the referral list.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, just referral list dot com and under search just

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<v Speaker 7>at JFR.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh okay, got that all right?

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<v Speaker 7>Artist appreciated.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't I don't trust just anybody.

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<v Speaker 7>This is you said your son got ripped off? Just

2020
01:41:26.960 --> 01:41:29.560
<v Speaker 7>out of curiosity? What happened? How do you get ripped off?

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<v Speaker 7>The car never showed up, showed up, damage, charged them more.

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01:41:33.119 --> 01:41:37.199
<v Speaker 18>She shipped his merchandise from Colorado to Mississippi end that

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01:41:37.239 --> 01:41:38.479
<v Speaker 18>we went two months late.

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01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:41.079
<v Speaker 5>Parva got there and the other part dune.

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah it was dammaged.

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, it was pure Hall.

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<v Speaker 7>So yeah, and a lot of people that was his car.

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<v Speaker 7>A lot of people don't realize too when you're shipping

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<v Speaker 7>most things, especially interstate, I mean you're looking at sixty

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01:41:54.039 --> 01:41:56.760
<v Speaker 7>to seventy cents a pound if they break some can

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01:41:56.800 --> 01:42:00.079
<v Speaker 7>you imagine that? Think about like a brand new one

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01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:04.279
<v Speaker 7>thousand dollars eighty five inch TV John and the thing

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01:42:04.359 --> 01:42:07.479
<v Speaker 7>weighs let's say thirty five pounds, and they're going to

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<v Speaker 7>give you twenty bucks for it because it's by the pound.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye. People don't get it. People just don't get it.

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<v Speaker 7>In fact, just as a side note, I don't think

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<v Speaker 7>when we move, I don't think we're moving. I don't

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<v Speaker 7>think I'm going to I'm gonna either sell all the

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<v Speaker 7>furniture or just get rid of it. I mean, I'm

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01:42:24.680 --> 01:42:27.039
<v Speaker 7>to the point now where I don't even I don't

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01:42:27.039 --> 01:42:30.800
<v Speaker 7>think it makes sense to move furniture across the country.

2042
01:42:30.840 --> 01:42:33.800
<v Speaker 7>I mean, unless you have something that's like really crazy.

2043
01:42:33.880 --> 01:42:36.840
<v Speaker 7>But I just think it would be cheaper to buy

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<v Speaker 7>new stuff or at least hassle factor a lot better.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus the stuff.

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01:42:41.239 --> 01:42:44.079
<v Speaker 7>We have now in what we you know, our country estate,

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01:42:44.119 --> 01:42:46.479
<v Speaker 7>if you will, out in the woods would look pretty

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<v Speaker 7>strange in a modern condo somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>The challenge that you have is that if you buy

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01:42:51.359 --> 01:42:53.920
<v Speaker 2>new stuff, a lot of times it takes four to

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01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:56.880
<v Speaker 2>six weeks to get it, sometimes even ten or twelve

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01:42:56.920 --> 01:42:59.560
<v Speaker 2>to get it. Yeah, and so it's really hard to

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01:42:59.680 --> 01:43:03.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of stagger, you know, leaving and getting rid of

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01:43:03.359 --> 01:43:05.359
<v Speaker 2>all the other stuff and showing up with nothing and

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01:43:05.399 --> 01:43:07.800
<v Speaker 2>then figuring out what to do for a couple of months.

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<v Speaker 7>A lot of condos, like if you have like you know,

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01:43:11.640 --> 01:43:14.720
<v Speaker 7>if you have a place in Keystone, for example, they're Breckenridge,

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01:43:14.880 --> 01:43:17.600
<v Speaker 7>a lot of those kind of ski and condos and stuff,

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01:43:18.359 --> 01:43:21.399
<v Speaker 7>they're always sold with the furniture. Yeah, And then is

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<v Speaker 7>that true in general with like I don't know, like

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01:43:25.039 --> 01:43:28.279
<v Speaker 7>something over at Landmark. I mean, if you buy something

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01:43:28.279 --> 01:43:30.359
<v Speaker 7>in Landmark, I bet a lot of times. I think

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01:43:30.479 --> 01:43:33.479
<v Speaker 7>when Tom sold his Unity sold it furnished. I think

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01:43:33.520 --> 01:43:36.119
<v Speaker 7>it's really expensive to move out of the top floor.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's if it's you know, I think it

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01:43:38.960 --> 01:43:42.359
<v Speaker 2>really comes down to whether the sellers, you know, it

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01:43:42.479 --> 01:43:45.720
<v Speaker 2>was their primary residence or not. If it's a second home,

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01:43:45.960 --> 01:43:48.199
<v Speaker 2>you're more likely that they're going to leave it because, yeah,

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01:43:48.439 --> 01:43:49.359
<v Speaker 2>what are they going to do with it?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, they have no place to put it an one.

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01:43:51.880 --> 01:43:54.600
<v Speaker 2>But for somebody that actually lives there it's their stuff,

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01:43:54.640 --> 01:43:56.520
<v Speaker 2>you're much less likely that they're going to leave it.

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<v Speaker 7>So we've got one I want to talk about coming

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01:43:59.039 --> 01:44:01.439
<v Speaker 7>up and don I'll get you in a second. We

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<v Speaker 7>can free up artists there three oh three seven one

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<v Speaker 7>three A two five five. We'd love to hear from

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01:44:06.479 --> 01:44:08.479
<v Speaker 7>you any questions you have loved to go after a

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01:44:08.560 --> 01:44:12.000
<v Speaker 7>contractor anything. We love sinking our teeth into that stuff

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01:44:12.079 --> 01:44:15.000
<v Speaker 7>or just giving advice. Three zero three seven one three

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<v Speaker 7>A two five five. One more hour coming up. But John,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm going to talk to you about something we discussed

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01:44:20.840 --> 01:44:23.319
<v Speaker 7>on air. Actually I wasn't here, but I heard you

2083
01:44:23.439 --> 01:44:26.079
<v Speaker 7>talking about it. The guy that got hit. Oh, I

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01:44:26.199 --> 01:44:28.079
<v Speaker 7>send it to you. I do remember this. I know

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01:44:28.119 --> 01:44:30.520
<v Speaker 7>why I remember it with you. I sent you over

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01:44:30.600 --> 01:44:34.239
<v Speaker 7>that caller we had that were the gate on I

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01:44:34.479 --> 01:44:37.520
<v Speaker 7>seventy opened up one of the snow gates or wind

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01:44:37.560 --> 01:44:40.199
<v Speaker 7>gates or basically closed the road down and it hit

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<v Speaker 7>their car, did about ten fifteen thousand dollars worth of damage.

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<v Speaker 7>And then what happened was they turned it into State

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01:44:47.920 --> 01:44:51.199
<v Speaker 7>of Colorado where Sea died. They got denied and do

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01:44:51.239 --> 01:44:53.680
<v Speaker 7>you remember why it got denied? With the denial letter

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01:44:53.720 --> 01:44:54.920
<v Speaker 7>said roughly do you remember?

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01:44:55.000 --> 01:44:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? What did it say? We didn't have knowledge of

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01:44:57.760 --> 01:44:59.439
<v Speaker 2>it before the incident.

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<v Speaker 7>I have an update for you after this break that's

2097
01:45:03.399 --> 01:45:07.920
<v Speaker 7>gonna blow your mind about that exact same gate. Everybody

2098
01:45:07.920 --> 01:45:10.640
<v Speaker 7>hold on perfect tease.

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<v Speaker 4>Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing

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<v Speaker 4>dot com.

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<v Speaker 11>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

2102
01:45:49.760 --> 01:45:52.920
<v Speaker 4>Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation comparison

2103
01:45:53.079 --> 01:45:56.640
<v Speaker 4>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

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01:45:56.640 --> 01:45:59.359
<v Speaker 4>of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven

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01:45:59.479 --> 01:46:02.479
<v Speaker 4>seven one help. You'll think you're his only customer when

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01:46:02.520 --> 01:46:05.000
<v Speaker 4>you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot com

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<v Speaker 4>to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh three

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<v Speaker 4>nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Ripped off, mad News? Need advice? Who you don't have?

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<v Speaker 1>Come running just as fast as we can.

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<v Speaker 3>Shooter's gonna help. Come man, This is.

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<v Speaker 16>The Troubleshooter Show Now, Tom Martinez, Welcome, Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 16>Only Show.

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<v Speaker 7>If it's kind. We're here to solve problems, answer questions,

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<v Speaker 7>take complaints, make your life just a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 7>In fact, to the tune of over three hundred million

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<v Speaker 7>in cash, merchandise exchanges, refund services directly due to this show.

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<v Speaker 7>If you've been ripped off, or maybe you want to

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<v Speaker 7>prevent being ripped off, and you have a question, we

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<v Speaker 7>want to hear from you. Three zero three seven one

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<v Speaker 7>three eight two five five. Attorney John Fuller joins me

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<v Speaker 7>to my left, my beautiful wife, Suzanne Brooke White with

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<v Speaker 7>Redrocksars dot Com, Redrocks Roof and Solar in Deputy Doc.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got Dragon and we've got Kelly on the other

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<v Speaker 2>side of the glass.

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<v Speaker 7>If anybody has any questions wants to talk to us,

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<v Speaker 7>we'd love to hear from you. Three zero three seven

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<v Speaker 7>one three eight two five five. Great time to get

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<v Speaker 7>through now, John, I want to talk to you about this.

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<v Speaker 7>I kind of teased it. It's crazy. We had a

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<v Speaker 7>caller reach out to us at help at trebleshooter dot

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<v Speaker 7>com and they sent me a video and I sent

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<v Speaker 7>the video to you. They're driving down I seventy and

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<v Speaker 7>these gates where they close the highway down generally due

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<v Speaker 7>to weather, swung open and hit their car and it's

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01:47:47.159 --> 01:47:50.279
<v Speaker 7>the video is literally a dashcm and you can see it.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like the gate was fine, yep, no problem. Next

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01:47:53.119 --> 01:47:55.239
<v Speaker 7>thing you know, it opens up and it happens to

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<v Speaker 7>hit their car. I think it was ten grand in damage, yep.

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<v Speaker 7>And they did.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything they were supposed to.

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<v Speaker 7>They called the police, they made an accident report, they

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<v Speaker 7>reached out to Sea Dot. They went through the online

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<v Speaker 7>portal to try to get reimbursed hip for the body shop,

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<v Speaker 7>and they got denied because.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't have knowledge of the dangerous condition before this accident.

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<v Speaker 7>So listen to this. After that aired on here, Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>listen to this. This other one came out and this

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01:48:28.560 --> 01:48:33.479
<v Speaker 7>happened about a week ago. That same exact gate, the

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01:48:33.600 --> 01:48:39.199
<v Speaker 7>exact same exact gate in twenty twenty three hit a

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01:48:39.239 --> 01:48:44.640
<v Speaker 7>truck and did twenty three thousand dollars worth of damage

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01:48:44.720 --> 01:48:46.520
<v Speaker 7>to the truck, the exact same one.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you telling me they had the police report lied

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01:48:49.680 --> 01:48:50.680
<v Speaker 2>about the gate.

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01:48:50.800 --> 01:48:54.239
<v Speaker 7>I'm saying Sea Dot said they didn't know about it.

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01:48:54.840 --> 01:48:57.159
<v Speaker 7>But how wouldn't they have known about it if it

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01:48:57.399 --> 01:48:59.239
<v Speaker 7>happened back in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't be serious.

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<v Speaker 7>They out in front of me when I was going

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<v Speaker 7>to pass somebody else. Harvey said, there was nowhere else

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01:49:07.399 --> 01:49:10.199
<v Speaker 7>I could go. I couldn't hit the brakes, and I

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01:49:10.319 --> 01:49:14.279
<v Speaker 7>hit it head on. Cost twenty grand of damage to

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01:49:14.439 --> 01:49:15.319
<v Speaker 7>my truck.

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<v Speaker 2>And they paid for it. And no, they didn't pay

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<v Speaker 2>for it. They invoked the same thing I said.

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<v Speaker 7>I contacted my insurance company, who contacted Sea Dot. Sea

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01:49:24.119 --> 01:49:28.079
<v Speaker 7>dot said, it's a road hazard in Colorado, and that's

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<v Speaker 7>something you're supposed to look out for.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the deal. Just let me kind of set

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<v Speaker 2>the legal, you know, framework for why this went down

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01:49:39.079 --> 01:49:42.039
<v Speaker 2>the way it went down. Okay times so you know,

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01:49:42.159 --> 01:49:45.520
<v Speaker 2>simple negligence is new or should have known. I mean,

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01:49:45.560 --> 01:49:48.319
<v Speaker 2>the gate wasn't ladged. Maybe you could foresee that the

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<v Speaker 2>thing could swing open and a windo or something on

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01:49:51.920 --> 01:49:56.199
<v Speaker 2>a windy day sometimes blows in eastern Colorado. Crazy but true,

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<v Speaker 2>and and we would just be dealing with foreseeability. But

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<v Speaker 2>when it's a government actor, for seability alone doesn't carry

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<v Speaker 2>the day because we have the governmental immunity standards which

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<v Speaker 2>we have to have, which we have to have, makes

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01:50:10.039 --> 01:50:13.439
<v Speaker 2>total sense, But the effect of the governmental Immunity statute

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<v Speaker 2>is to raise up the required level of knowledge above

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<v Speaker 2>just simple foreseeability and newer to gross No, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to have actual knowledge, which is kind of the same

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<v Speaker 2>as gross negligence, but you have to actually show knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>of the dangerous convention.

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<v Speaker 7>So, for example, if someone was working on that gate

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01:50:34.199 --> 01:50:38.880
<v Speaker 7>the day before and realize the latch was broken.

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<v Speaker 2>Good, and they were waiting a day to get the

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<v Speaker 2>new latch, and even if somebody emailed them a year

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<v Speaker 2>before and said, hey, that gate looks a little close

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<v Speaker 2>to the road, that would be enough. The challenge is,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, here's really what it comes down to. How

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<v Speaker 2>the heck do you get somebody to give you the

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<v Speaker 2>information that you need to be able to prove that

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<v Speaker 2>they had knowledge of something. Let's get out of the

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<v Speaker 2>government immunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 7>So let's say it's a I'm trying to think of

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<v Speaker 7>a good example. Let's say a slip and fall on

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<v Speaker 7>government property. No, let's a slip and fall at Walmart,

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<v Speaker 7>or a slipping fall at Sears, or a slipping fall anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So if you don't.

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01:51:17.000 --> 01:51:20.600
<v Speaker 7>Know there's a piece of ice outside wherever, let's say

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<v Speaker 7>it's society of your building, it's not in the main walkway,

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01:51:23.520 --> 01:51:27.039
<v Speaker 7>and someone slips and falls pushing a grocery cart out

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01:51:27.079 --> 01:51:31.039
<v Speaker 7>to their car the first time it happens, how would

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<v Speaker 7>Walmart have ever known it was there?

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter, because the standard for a private landowner

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<v Speaker 2>is a new or should have known standard. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>either we can say you did know about it, or

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01:51:44.359 --> 01:51:48.119
<v Speaker 2>if you didn't, you should have. You operate a big

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01:51:48.159 --> 01:51:51.279
<v Speaker 2>parking lot it gets snow, you're in charge of cleaning it.

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01:51:51.359 --> 01:51:55.920
<v Speaker 2>You hire companies. You're unnoticed that we could potentially have ice. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so new or should have known. But the government, in

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01:51:59.239 --> 01:52:02.399
<v Speaker 2>their infinite ways, put a little provision in there. The

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01:52:02.439 --> 01:52:06.399
<v Speaker 2>humility says, when we're dealing with the governmental immunity situation,

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01:52:07.439 --> 01:52:09.960
<v Speaker 2>simple new or should have known doesn't carry the day.

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<v Speaker 2>That component of the analysis is ramped up to the

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<v Speaker 2>next level, which requires actual knowledge.

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<v Speaker 7>But most of the slipping falls you hear about in

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<v Speaker 7>a parking lot, there's generally never a payout on there,

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<v Speaker 7>are there? I mean, if it just snows, like how long?

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<v Speaker 7>What's reasonable? So you know a halstorm comes through or

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<v Speaker 7>a snowstorm comes through, Well when does a retail shop?

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01:52:33.840 --> 01:52:36.880
<v Speaker 7>When are they expected to know there's ice? Get rid

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01:52:36.880 --> 01:52:39.279
<v Speaker 7>of the ice? Well, actually sign me up.

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<v Speaker 2>We do have successful cases under those circumstances, and a

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01:52:42.880 --> 01:52:45.920
<v Speaker 2>lot of times it comes down to you know, they'll

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<v Speaker 2>you've got a reason. You've got a contract that says

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<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to come plow and as salt a parking lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever you have an accumulation of two inches, yeah, can

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01:52:55.039 --> 01:52:56.720
<v Speaker 2>get we get six? And they didn't show.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, like Denver makes all retailers shovel the sidewalks within

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<v Speaker 7>X amount of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we have a standard. We may have a

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01:53:04.560 --> 01:53:08.760
<v Speaker 2>contract that sets forth a duty on some particular defendant

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01:53:08.800 --> 01:53:11.359
<v Speaker 2>to come out and plow and shovel and salt and

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01:53:11.399 --> 01:53:13.920
<v Speaker 2>sand and all that, and they don't do it, or

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01:53:14.439 --> 01:53:17.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, or you have I've had cases where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a manager that has to give the final go

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<v Speaker 2>ahead because they don't want the snowplow to show up

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01:53:22.119 --> 01:53:24.880
<v Speaker 2>in charge of money. Every time there's a flake of snow,

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01:53:24.920 --> 01:53:27.600
<v Speaker 2>they're like, well it was two inches in wherever. So

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01:53:28.119 --> 01:53:30.359
<v Speaker 2>some manager has to give the go ahead and they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>well not yet, not yet, not yet, And then they

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01:53:33.359 --> 01:53:36.079
<v Speaker 2>don't do it when clearly it goes over that threshold.

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01:53:36.560 --> 01:53:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Then they're going to be held responsible because they knew

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<v Speaker 2>or they should have known.

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<v Speaker 7>Have you ever had a case where a car accident.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 7>But let's say it's a maybe it was a stolen

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01:53:49.399 --> 01:53:53.199
<v Speaker 7>car or someone that wasn't supposed to be driving the car, yep.

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<v Speaker 7>And the insurance simply won't pay because they weren't supposed

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<v Speaker 7>to be driving the car. And there's nothing the other

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<v Speaker 7>party can do at that point right, In other words,

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<v Speaker 7>your client if they're not if they're not going to

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01:54:07.640 --> 01:54:09.560
<v Speaker 7>cover it, I mean that is a true out or

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01:54:10.239 --> 01:54:12.640
<v Speaker 7>or I also heard this and tell me if I'm right,

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01:54:12.640 --> 01:54:14.079
<v Speaker 7>then I want to see if you ever had a

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<v Speaker 7>case like this where if I'm in my own car

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<v Speaker 7>and I have insurance, I have liability insurance. Let's they

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01:54:20.279 --> 01:54:23.399
<v Speaker 7>have a lot of it. But I decide I'm going

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01:54:23.439 --> 01:54:25.319
<v Speaker 7>to like rob a bank or rob a seven to

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<v Speaker 7>eleven in my car and I'm driving away and I'm

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01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:31.399
<v Speaker 7>trying to get away quick and I run into somebody.

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01:54:31.760 --> 01:54:35.079
<v Speaker 7>Could my insurance not pay because I was in the

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<v Speaker 7>middle of a crime even though it's me driving my car.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you just threw out three different scenarios there.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me enough in turn the simplest one. If your

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<v Speaker 2>car gets stolen and you had no culpability in it

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01:54:49.479 --> 01:54:52.039
<v Speaker 2>getting stolen, like you didn't leave it outside warming up

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01:54:52.079 --> 01:54:53.880
<v Speaker 2>with the keys in it, or something that we could

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<v Speaker 2>point to you as being you know, negligent in getting stolen,

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01:54:57.279 --> 01:55:00.760
<v Speaker 2>or something that your insurance is almost certainly never gonna

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<v Speaker 2>pay for those damages. Okay. Scenario number two would be,

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<v Speaker 2>let me give you a scenario Let's say you and

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01:55:09.119 --> 01:55:14.720
<v Speaker 2>your you know girlfriend break up. Okay, but but prior

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01:55:14.800 --> 01:55:18.119
<v Speaker 2>to that, she drove your car all the time. Okay,

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01:55:18.399 --> 01:55:21.600
<v Speaker 2>so she at one point was a permissive driver. The

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01:55:21.680 --> 01:55:24.920
<v Speaker 2>law in Colorado says, if you ever were a permissive driver,

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01:55:25.039 --> 01:55:27.119
<v Speaker 2>you always are a permissive.

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<v Speaker 7>So even if you broke up, if she stole your

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01:55:29.000 --> 01:55:30.560
<v Speaker 7>car the next week to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Back at you, yes, she's still going to be a

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01:55:32.279 --> 01:55:36.279
<v Speaker 2>permissive driver. Your insurance coverage would apply and would provide

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01:55:36.359 --> 01:55:39.039
<v Speaker 2>for you know, a victim of an action, even if

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01:55:39.119 --> 01:55:41.560
<v Speaker 2>you told her don't ever touch my car again. I

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01:55:41.680 --> 01:55:45.279
<v Speaker 2>had a case where a guy showed up, i mean,

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01:55:45.560 --> 01:55:48.399
<v Speaker 2>beat the ever living you know what out of his ex,

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01:55:48.720 --> 01:55:51.399
<v Speaker 2>kidnapped her, stuffed her in the car, got in her car,

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01:55:51.479 --> 01:55:53.960
<v Speaker 2>and drove off, and we still got coverage for the

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01:55:54.000 --> 01:55:56.000
<v Speaker 2>accident that happened about two blocks away.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, now your third.

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<v Speaker 7>Scenario remissive driver, always driver, Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's crazy. Yep. In the eyes of the law,

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01:56:06.840 --> 01:56:12.359
<v Speaker 2>that's exactly it. And so your third scenario again was well.

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<v Speaker 7>If you're oh yeah, yeah, if you're if you're committed,

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01:56:15.119 --> 01:56:15.720
<v Speaker 7>you're a crime.

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<v Speaker 2>You're robbing a bank as you tend to do seven

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01:56:18.640 --> 01:56:22.119
<v Speaker 2>eleven stuff or seven elevens whatever, and you drive away

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01:56:22.159 --> 01:56:26.600
<v Speaker 2>and you run over somebody. Okay, there are in almost

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01:56:26.680 --> 01:56:30.640
<v Speaker 2>every insurance contract provisions that say we will not pay

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01:56:30.680 --> 01:56:32.880
<v Speaker 2>for damages incurred during the commission of a.

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01:56:32.800 --> 01:56:35.800
<v Speaker 7>Crime, even if it's you driving, even if it's you driving.

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01:56:35.920 --> 01:56:38.159
<v Speaker 7>Have you ever ran up against that in all your

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01:56:38.279 --> 01:56:42.039
<v Speaker 7>time where the insurance company not not your client, because

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01:56:42.039 --> 01:56:45.479
<v Speaker 7>you're usually on the other side, but you're fighting to

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01:56:45.479 --> 01:56:47.479
<v Speaker 7>get paid and they're saying, nope, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 7>cover it because of this clause.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've tried to. I haven't had one that was

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01:56:51.520 --> 01:56:56.680
<v Speaker 2>successful in in truly denying it, you know. And and

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01:56:56.680 --> 01:56:59.800
<v Speaker 2>and the guy that was driving it certainly wants there

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01:56:59.800 --> 01:57:02.920
<v Speaker 2>to be insurance coverage because that person is on the line.

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01:57:03.159 --> 01:57:06.000
<v Speaker 2>If the insurance doesn't pay, they're in a real pickle there.

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<v Speaker 2>So they've always been super cooperative with us in sating

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01:57:11.000 --> 01:57:13.720
<v Speaker 2>it was a complete accident. I was totally you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've been successful. You know that dealy has happened. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. That's the reason why d ULI accidents are covered.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, wait, because wait, I got to take this break,

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<v Speaker 7>because that's where I was going to go next, Yep,

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<v Speaker 7>if it's in, if it's during the commission of a

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01:57:29.000 --> 01:57:32.079
<v Speaker 7>crime and someone's out getting drunk, or let's even go,

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<v Speaker 7>let's even go a step further. They're cruising down I

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<v Speaker 7>twenty five shoving Jack Daniels down their throat by the bottle.

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<v Speaker 7>To me, that's a big time crime. They're in the

2327
01:57:43.880 --> 01:57:46.880
<v Speaker 7>commission of a crime right there. They're drinking and driving,

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01:57:47.239 --> 01:57:49.640
<v Speaker 7>So I assume and we'll talk about it after this.

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01:57:50.239 --> 01:57:52.800
<v Speaker 7>They wouldn't have any coverage, but they always seem to.

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01:57:52.920 --> 01:57:59.319
<v Speaker 11>Yep, go with a sure thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Denver's Rufer Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay a

2332
01:58:02.920 --> 01:58:08.840
<v Speaker 4>cent until you're content than time for an insurance check

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2334
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2336
01:58:18.640 --> 01:58:21.399
<v Speaker 4>think you're his only customer when you choose Frank durand

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01:58:21.399 --> 01:58:23.840
<v Speaker 4>the real estate Man dot com to list your home

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<v Speaker 4>with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen

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<v Speaker 4>twenty two.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, three oh three seven one three eight two

2341
01:58:31.920 --> 01:58:34.239
<v Speaker 7>five five. You've been ripped off taking advantage of just

2342
01:58:34.239 --> 01:58:35.960
<v Speaker 7>need some help. We want to hear from you. We

2343
01:58:36.039 --> 01:58:38.920
<v Speaker 7>got lines open three zero three Martino. I want to

2344
01:58:38.960 --> 01:58:40.840
<v Speaker 7>go back to John Fuller. Then I got a text

2345
01:58:40.880 --> 01:58:46.399
<v Speaker 7>for Brook with redrocksr AS dot com. John. So we

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01:58:46.399 --> 01:58:48.800
<v Speaker 7>were talking about during a commission of a crime, and

2347
01:58:48.800 --> 01:58:51.239
<v Speaker 7>we were talking about if I robbed to seven eleven

2348
01:58:51.279 --> 01:58:54.000
<v Speaker 7>in my car, that I have liability insurance and I

2349
01:58:54.079 --> 01:58:57.600
<v Speaker 7>run into somebody or run over somebody, my insurance company

2350
01:58:57.600 --> 01:59:01.119
<v Speaker 7>could deny the claim because I was I was using

2351
01:59:01.159 --> 01:59:03.880
<v Speaker 7>the car during the commission of a crime.

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01:59:04.199 --> 01:59:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Pretty much straight up yep.

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01:59:05.720 --> 01:59:10.039
<v Speaker 7>But I said, then how come people with DUIs all

2354
01:59:10.119 --> 01:59:14.159
<v Speaker 7>the time, and I mean like bad ones, how come

2355
01:59:14.199 --> 01:59:17.119
<v Speaker 7>their insurance pay So you're driving down the highway and

2356
01:59:17.199 --> 01:59:21.359
<v Speaker 7>someone sucking down Jack Daniels like pez candy or something,

2357
01:59:21.720 --> 01:59:24.399
<v Speaker 7>and then they run into another car and create a

2358
01:59:24.439 --> 01:59:27.640
<v Speaker 7>big injury or death or something like that. Why isn't

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01:59:27.640 --> 01:59:32.520
<v Speaker 7>that a crime as well? Why does insurance always pay out? Yeah,

2360
01:59:32.600 --> 01:59:34.119
<v Speaker 7>it's a it's a great question.

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01:59:34.279 --> 01:59:39.600
<v Speaker 2>But the reality is the driving is distinct from the drunkenness. Okay,

2362
01:59:39.920 --> 01:59:43.720
<v Speaker 2>so it's not the drunkenness that causes the accident, it's

2363
01:59:43.760 --> 01:59:47.000
<v Speaker 2>the negligent driving that causes the accident. Got it. So

2364
01:59:47.039 --> 01:59:50.600
<v Speaker 2>it's driving off the road, it's whatever. I mean, that's truly.

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01:59:50.640 --> 01:59:54.840
<v Speaker 2>The difference is that you can't you can't conflate the

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01:59:54.920 --> 02:00:00.720
<v Speaker 2>two acts. They're distinctly and and and legally set it acts.

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02:00:00.800 --> 02:00:04.319
<v Speaker 2>You know. The negligence that caused the accident is they

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02:00:04.319 --> 02:00:06.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't intend the accident. It was still an accident that

2369
02:00:07.079 --> 02:00:09.920
<v Speaker 2>was not you know, on purpose that they ran into it.

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02:00:09.960 --> 02:00:12.039
<v Speaker 2>That would be an intentional act that wouldn't be covered.

2371
02:00:12.319 --> 02:00:16.039
<v Speaker 2>This is an accident and they just happened to be

2372
02:00:16.319 --> 02:00:18.800
<v Speaker 2>in violation of They could have been in violation of

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02:00:18.840 --> 02:00:21.079
<v Speaker 2>a seat belt law. Let's just let's use that as

2374
02:00:21.279 --> 02:00:25.880
<v Speaker 2>texting now. Or texting, you wouldn't say that the the

2375
02:00:26.079 --> 02:00:30.520
<v Speaker 2>violation of the seat belt law should invalidate insurance coverage. Yeah, gotcha.

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02:00:30.600 --> 02:00:33.319
<v Speaker 7>So it's the same kind of concept. It's kind of

2377
02:00:33.359 --> 02:00:35.399
<v Speaker 7>funny thinking about it that way. If I was an

2378
02:00:35.439 --> 02:00:38.840
<v Speaker 7>insurance company, I would love to be able to say, Okay,

2379
02:00:38.840 --> 02:00:41.000
<v Speaker 7>if you're intoxicated, you don't have coverage.

2380
02:00:41.079 --> 02:00:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and some try to do that. Actually, be very hard.

2381
02:00:45.119 --> 02:00:47.560
<v Speaker 7>Can there be so many people that aren't covered.

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<v Speaker 8>In the scenario that Mark originally mentioned what's the difference

2383
02:00:51.279 --> 02:00:53.199
<v Speaker 8>if he robbed a bank and on the way out

2384
02:00:53.279 --> 02:00:55.119
<v Speaker 8>hit somebody. How is that different?

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<v Speaker 7>Do you want it's still not Well, the robbing the

2386
02:00:57.720 --> 02:01:01.119
<v Speaker 7>bank was intentional, it was so it was drinking.

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<v Speaker 8>But yeah, you're doc, You're right, So why I'm just

2388
02:01:05.079 --> 02:01:06.239
<v Speaker 8>cherious why it would be different.

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<v Speaker 2>It just is. I mean, it's it's one of those

2390
02:01:10.079 --> 02:01:13.840
<v Speaker 2>things where and and and listen, the commission of a crime,

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02:01:14.279 --> 02:01:21.600
<v Speaker 2>exclusion is is really more predicated on the intentionality of

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02:01:21.640 --> 02:01:24.840
<v Speaker 2>the driving. So if you're driving fast, trying to escape

2393
02:01:24.840 --> 02:01:28.640
<v Speaker 2>from the scene, it's that is an intentional act. You're

2394
02:01:28.680 --> 02:01:32.560
<v Speaker 2>you're breaking that. It's your speed and inability to control

2395
02:01:32.600 --> 02:01:34.800
<v Speaker 2>the vehicle that is the cause of the accent.

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<v Speaker 7>Or trying to run from the cops.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or running from the cops. I mean, that is

2398
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<v Speaker 2>the crime that you're doing. That's the intentional deal. The

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02:01:42.279 --> 02:01:45.119
<v Speaker 2>drunk guy is not intending to break the law. He's

2400
02:01:45.159 --> 02:01:48.920
<v Speaker 2>trying to drive good. He's just happens to be drunk.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes I think that's really where the it's the

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<v Speaker 2>intentional part.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, So if I if someone took their car and

2404
02:01:57.119 --> 02:02:01.199
<v Speaker 7>intentionally they're really pissed at their neighbor, whatever, it's a

2405
02:02:01.239 --> 02:02:04.880
<v Speaker 7>neighbor thing that just blew out of control, and they

2406
02:02:04.920 --> 02:02:07.760
<v Speaker 7>grabbed their car and run over their mailbox and run

2407
02:02:07.800 --> 02:02:11.159
<v Speaker 7>over their shed in their truck. There's probably no coverage

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<v Speaker 7>because they did it on purpose, correct, simple as that.

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely it does homeowners work the exact same way for

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<v Speaker 7>the most part.

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<v Speaker 2>I think. So. Yeah, it's hard to say I accidentally

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<v Speaker 2>ran through the guy's fence and over his tough shed.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean, who was the what was the politician

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<v Speaker 2>that I thought they were going to talk about Tiger Woods?

2415
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<v Speaker 2>Tiger of course, but the who was it that the

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02:02:38.760 --> 02:02:41.399
<v Speaker 2>neighbor went and assaulted him when he was cutting his

2417
02:02:41.399 --> 02:02:45.039
<v Speaker 2>grass or something? It was no, No, it was the guy,

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<v Speaker 2>the Texas guy.

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<v Speaker 7>No, wasn't it. No, it definitely wasn't Ross Brow No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 7>got it. Can't believe. I can't think of his name.

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<v Speaker 7>I can picture him perfectly.

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<v Speaker 10>I thought it was one of the Pauls.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was Ron Paul.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so the neighbor over ran rad All and just

2425
02:03:03.279 --> 02:03:04.680
<v Speaker 7>beat the hell out of him.

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<v Speaker 8>But that's in Kentucky, not Texas.

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<v Speaker 7>And what did he say, though I didn't know, did

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<v Speaker 7>he say it was an accident?

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<v Speaker 2>I accidentally punched him. In essence, yeah, he tried to

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<v Speaker 2>and and I mean that case was that was just dumb,

2431
02:03:19.039 --> 02:03:21.159
<v Speaker 2>you know all the way around. It wasn't really an

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02:03:21.199 --> 02:03:24.960
<v Speaker 2>insurance deal. But but it was your example about running

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<v Speaker 2>through the neighbor spence because you get so mad at

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<v Speaker 2>him for whatever.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I bet there's been husbands or wives they

2436
02:03:30.119 --> 02:03:32.479
<v Speaker 7>got really mad and they take one car and run

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02:03:32.520 --> 02:03:35.720
<v Speaker 7>into the other. Now, what happens if someone did run

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<v Speaker 7>into your own car on accident? Once again, let's take out.

2439
02:03:39.600 --> 02:03:42.079
<v Speaker 7>Let's take out. It wasn't intentional, it's an accident.

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<v Speaker 2>It's covered, so they cover it.

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<v Speaker 7>I back out and I don't realize Suzanne parked right

2442
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<v Speaker 7>behind me and I run into all the.

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<v Speaker 2>Time and it's covered.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well that's good to know.

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02:03:52.039 --> 02:03:54.079
<v Speaker 2>That's really good care for where you parked. Susan.

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<v Speaker 7>What you say out of all your clientele, and I

2447
02:03:58.079 --> 02:04:00.199
<v Speaker 7>don't mean your clientele, I'm going to take that back.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm talking the other side, the people you go after,

2449
02:04:03.880 --> 02:04:07.439
<v Speaker 7>like the people that hit us. Ironically, the ones that

2450
02:04:07.640 --> 02:04:10.840
<v Speaker 7>hit us. She was a woman and the one that

2451
02:04:10.920 --> 02:04:14.319
<v Speaker 7>rear and daddy was a woman, So just ironic. But

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<v Speaker 7>I'm asking you and you know, feel free if you

2453
02:04:18.119 --> 02:04:19.680
<v Speaker 7>don't want to go there. But then I'll know what

2454
02:04:19.760 --> 02:04:23.319
<v Speaker 7>the answer is. Do people that cause accidents tend to

2455
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<v Speaker 7>be women?

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<v Speaker 2>Nice? Nice? Try? I don't. I truly don't know. It's

2457
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<v Speaker 2>not something that I track in my firm, got it,

2458
02:04:35.640 --> 02:04:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I I would, I truly wouldn't know. I mean, I

2459
02:04:41.159 --> 02:04:43.319
<v Speaker 2>would tell you if I if I had a sense

2460
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<v Speaker 2>of it.

2461
02:04:43.680 --> 02:04:45.039
<v Speaker 7>But I lit teenagers.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say. I can't say that it's decidedly, you know,

2463
02:04:48.439 --> 02:04:51.960
<v Speaker 2>a female roster of defendants in my firm. I don't.

2464
02:04:52.039 --> 02:04:54.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that it is. I think it's probably,

2465
02:04:54.840 --> 02:04:57.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, equal to the demographic makeup in the in

2466
02:04:57.960 --> 02:05:02.520
<v Speaker 2>the community. I mean, really it makes sense. Maybe I would,

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02:05:02.600 --> 02:05:05.560
<v Speaker 2>I would have to guess that, you know, maybe younger

2468
02:05:05.640 --> 02:05:08.840
<v Speaker 2>drivers are more prevalent than than older drivers, and you

2469
02:05:08.840 --> 02:05:12.079
<v Speaker 2>know kids more than you know. You could probably look

2470
02:05:12.199 --> 02:05:15.039
<v Speaker 2>deep into it and come up with all these crazy conclusions.

2471
02:05:15.159 --> 02:05:17.319
<v Speaker 2>But but it's not something that I track, And I

2472
02:05:17.359 --> 02:05:21.079
<v Speaker 2>truly don't have the sense to say that it's a rule,

2473
02:05:21.199 --> 02:05:22.159
<v Speaker 2>that's the mark rule.

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<v Speaker 7>I know this for a fact.

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02:05:24.760 --> 02:05:29.439
<v Speaker 2>Young boys costs more to ensure than young girls. I

2476
02:05:29.479 --> 02:05:32.760
<v Speaker 2>guarantee of the insurance companies know exactly who's more likely

2477
02:05:32.800 --> 02:05:35.239
<v Speaker 2>to get in an accident, Yeah, and charge accordingly.

2478
02:05:35.359 --> 02:05:38.560
<v Speaker 7>And then how about how about someone I've heard I've

2479
02:05:38.560 --> 02:05:42.039
<v Speaker 7>heard maybe it was you. I've heard someone say that

2480
02:05:42.119 --> 02:05:44.640
<v Speaker 7>if it truly is a health issue. In other words,

2481
02:05:44.920 --> 02:05:49.680
<v Speaker 7>you legitimately have a stroke and you pass out, Thank

2482
02:05:49.760 --> 02:05:53.359
<v Speaker 7>God you live, but you cause a big accident that

2483
02:05:53.520 --> 02:05:57.279
<v Speaker 7>you can actually but be denied because well it's not intentional.

2484
02:05:57.359 --> 02:05:59.880
<v Speaker 7>You didn't intentionally have a stroke. So but it was

2485
02:06:00.079 --> 02:06:01.399
<v Speaker 7>kind of like an act of God.

2486
02:06:01.600 --> 02:06:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think that still is there to a degree.

2487
02:06:05.079 --> 02:06:07.640
<v Speaker 2>We had this thing called a sudden emergency doctrine in

2488
02:06:07.680 --> 02:06:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Colorado for a long time that that would apply in

2489
02:06:11.880 --> 02:06:14.319
<v Speaker 2>that circumstance directly towards.

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02:06:14.119 --> 02:06:16.439
<v Speaker 7>The insurance company. In other words, it wasn't out.

2491
02:06:16.439 --> 02:06:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Right they would say, we're not covering it to sudden emergency.

2492
02:06:19.119 --> 02:06:22.079
<v Speaker 2>They weren't negligent, there's no you know, there's no insurable

2493
02:06:22.079 --> 02:06:25.840
<v Speaker 2>act there, you know. But then the defense bar started

2494
02:06:25.880 --> 02:06:28.119
<v Speaker 2>pushing the envelope and they pushed it a little bit

2495
02:06:28.159 --> 02:06:30.000
<v Speaker 2>too far, and they did it for a lady that

2496
02:06:30.199 --> 02:06:31.760
<v Speaker 2>lost control over cars.

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2503
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<v Speaker 4>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

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<v Speaker 7>All right, three oh three seven one three eight two

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<v Speaker 7>five five three zero three Martino, We've been picking John

2508
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<v Speaker 7>Fuller's brain left and right today. It's been kind of crazy.

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<v Speaker 7>I love thinking about just law in general. John, you

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<v Speaker 7>did some criminal defense. By the way, we have lines

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<v Speaker 7>open three oh three seven one three eight two five five,

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<v Speaker 7>and I've got some questions for Brookie Redrocks. But you

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<v Speaker 7>did criminal law for a little bit, right, I did.

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<v Speaker 7>What side of the arena? Were you on the DA

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<v Speaker 7>side or both sides.

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<v Speaker 2>Are on the defense side? On the defense side, were

2517
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<v Speaker 2>you ever a public defender? Negative ghost rider?

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<v Speaker 7>That's got to be a hard one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know it's the same job, but the complicating

2520
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<v Speaker 2>you know what makes it difficult is they.

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<v Speaker 7>Just get you're not getting paid.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, being ombwhelmed with a million cases. You know, there's

2523
02:08:02.359 --> 02:08:04.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, if those guys are like, look, I can

2524
02:08:04.279 --> 02:08:06.439
<v Speaker 2>get a great deal, or do you want to go

2525
02:08:06.479 --> 02:08:08.439
<v Speaker 2>to trial, and they're like, I want to go to trial,

2526
02:08:08.600 --> 02:08:10.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, and so they end up trying.

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<v Speaker 7>Because they're not paying for an attorney.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, and and they figure just roll the dice.

2529
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what's the worst that can happen? I lose.

2530
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<v Speaker 2>That's the same thing as a as a plea. So

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<v Speaker 2>if those guys get i mean just the worst cases,

2532
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<v Speaker 2>some of the worst clients, and they get you know,

2533
02:08:26.479 --> 02:08:28.720
<v Speaker 2>overwhelmed with cases, I mean, it's a bad deal. I

2534
02:08:28.720 --> 02:08:30.600
<v Speaker 2>feel sorry for him. A lot of times. They are

2535
02:08:30.840 --> 02:08:34.560
<v Speaker 2>phenomenal attorneys, you know, they get they get the worst

2536
02:08:34.560 --> 02:08:37.039
<v Speaker 2>facts and they play cases. It's kind of like putting

2537
02:08:37.079 --> 02:08:40.239
<v Speaker 2>in your does though right in the d well. It's

2538
02:08:40.239 --> 02:08:41.720
<v Speaker 2>not in the DA's office at all.

2539
02:08:41.760 --> 02:08:42.640
<v Speaker 7>But I didn't know that.

2540
02:08:43.000 --> 02:08:46.159
<v Speaker 2>The DA and the PD are not connected in any way.

2541
02:08:46.279 --> 02:08:48.560
<v Speaker 2>They're but they're both paid for by the city right

2542
02:08:48.800 --> 02:08:51.960
<v Speaker 2>well by the state. Normally, you know, it's a the

2543
02:08:52.039 --> 02:08:55.600
<v Speaker 2>DA's or state agencies and the public defenders as well,

2544
02:08:55.640 --> 02:08:58.840
<v Speaker 2>but they're completely separate. There's no there's no connection.

2545
02:08:58.880 --> 02:08:59.319
<v Speaker 1>What's up.

2546
02:08:59.439 --> 02:09:03.960
<v Speaker 7>So Adeline worked in the public Defender's office over I

2547
02:09:04.000 --> 02:09:08.760
<v Speaker 7>think last summer in Wyoming, YEP. And most of them

2548
02:09:08.760 --> 02:09:12.239
<v Speaker 7>coming through that she dealt with drove her crazy because

2549
02:09:12.239 --> 02:09:16.319
<v Speaker 7>they're almost all the same. It was child neglect, child molestation,

2550
02:09:16.399 --> 02:09:19.079
<v Speaker 7>and we're talking generally by someone in the family, right,

2551
02:09:19.960 --> 02:09:21.359
<v Speaker 7>And she said she just could.

2552
02:09:21.279 --> 02:09:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Never do it.

2553
02:09:21.960 --> 02:09:24.760
<v Speaker 7>She said, it's so hard to get up there. And

2554
02:09:24.880 --> 02:09:28.439
<v Speaker 7>you know, she was there interning, so it's not like

2555
02:09:28.560 --> 02:09:32.000
<v Speaker 7>I mean, she's working under somebody's my point, and she goes,

2556
02:09:32.039 --> 02:09:33.720
<v Speaker 7>I just don't even know how they do it. I mean,

2557
02:09:33.760 --> 02:09:36.800
<v Speaker 7>it's just outright disgusting some of these people. And you

2558
02:09:36.880 --> 02:09:39.119
<v Speaker 7>got to get up there and defend them. Yeah, it's

2559
02:09:39.119 --> 02:09:40.119
<v Speaker 7>gotta be tough as hell.

2560
02:09:40.520 --> 02:09:44.079
<v Speaker 2>There are bad facts and bad people and bad cases

2561
02:09:44.119 --> 02:09:47.239
<v Speaker 2>out there every time, you know, and those people are

2562
02:09:47.359 --> 02:09:51.800
<v Speaker 2>entitled to a defense. In large god largely, the defense

2563
02:09:51.880 --> 02:09:55.279
<v Speaker 2>that they get provided doesn't require that we endorse what

2564
02:09:55.319 --> 02:09:58.000
<v Speaker 2>they did or didn't do. I mean, we're we're not.

2565
02:09:59.399 --> 02:10:02.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're we're providing a legal defense that's different

2566
02:10:02.640 --> 02:10:07.760
<v Speaker 2>than you know, than saying I'm advocating that their behavior was.

2567
02:10:08.000 --> 02:10:13.199
<v Speaker 7>If you hire a criminal defense attorney, and let's say

2568
02:10:13.199 --> 02:10:15.439
<v Speaker 7>I walk in and I come in and say, hey,

2569
02:10:15.520 --> 02:10:19.399
<v Speaker 7>I need an attorney. I got arrested for domestic violence

2570
02:10:19.479 --> 02:10:23.640
<v Speaker 7>last night. And I looked and I go, yep, and

2571
02:10:24.199 --> 02:10:26.119
<v Speaker 7>she really pissed me off, and I punched her in

2572
02:10:26.119 --> 02:10:28.079
<v Speaker 7>the face and I threw her down the stairs, and

2573
02:10:28.119 --> 02:10:31.319
<v Speaker 7>I literally come out to the attorney of what I did.

2574
02:10:32.079 --> 02:10:34.359
<v Speaker 7>They can still defend me, right, They don't have to.

2575
02:10:35.520 --> 02:10:37.199
<v Speaker 7>They don't have to tell anybody.

2576
02:10:37.520 --> 02:10:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Criminal defense is mostly about ensuring that the process that's

2577
02:10:42.319 --> 02:10:47.560
<v Speaker 2>in place was applied correctly and worked. So it's about

2578
02:10:47.680 --> 02:10:50.840
<v Speaker 2>the quality of the evidence, the quality of the probable cause,

2579
02:10:50.920 --> 02:10:54.399
<v Speaker 2>the propriety of the actions that were taken by the police,

2580
02:10:54.439 --> 02:10:58.199
<v Speaker 2>and building the case. You know, all of those factors.

2581
02:10:57.720 --> 02:11:02.520
<v Speaker 7>That if you know your client well is guilty of.

2582
02:11:02.479 --> 02:11:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Such, put him on that that doesn't really matter. That's

2583
02:11:06.000 --> 02:11:08.319
<v Speaker 2>that's not the issue unless you're going to trial and

2584
02:11:08.319 --> 02:11:10.119
<v Speaker 2>you're going to put the guy on the stand and

2585
02:11:10.119 --> 02:11:12.960
<v Speaker 2>and and ask him the question, so did you do it?

2586
02:11:13.199 --> 02:11:17.079
<v Speaker 2>He answers, No, that's suborning perjury. You couldn't. You couldn't

2587
02:11:17.159 --> 02:11:21.760
<v Speaker 2>do that, okay, But but generally speaking, nothing. But I'm

2588
02:11:21.800 --> 02:11:25.079
<v Speaker 2>just saying the general process of criminal defense is not

2589
02:11:26.720 --> 02:11:30.199
<v Speaker 2>focused on that issue. It's it's not It's.

2590
02:11:30.079 --> 02:11:32.640
<v Speaker 7>Focused on if everything was done properly.

2591
02:11:32.720 --> 02:11:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you did what you did. I'll do what I do,

2592
02:11:34.840 --> 02:11:36.720
<v Speaker 2>And what I do is focused on the case and

2593
02:11:36.760 --> 02:11:39.119
<v Speaker 2>the evidence and the rules and the law and the

2594
02:11:39.159 --> 02:11:41.800
<v Speaker 2>court and the process and all of those things that

2595
02:11:41.880 --> 02:11:43.640
<v Speaker 2>go into a competent legal defense.

2596
02:11:43.760 --> 02:11:46.399
<v Speaker 7>And ever since I've known you, you've been personal injury.

2597
02:11:46.880 --> 02:11:50.279
<v Speaker 7>So why did you move? And it's been a long time.

2598
02:11:50.319 --> 02:11:52.720
<v Speaker 7>I mean, you must have been in the criminal realm

2599
02:11:52.800 --> 02:11:56.000
<v Speaker 7>years ago. That sounds weird, the criminal realm, criminal defense realm.

2600
02:11:56.520 --> 02:11:58.479
<v Speaker 7>So what what what made you move?

2601
02:11:58.760 --> 02:12:02.560
<v Speaker 2>We know, it just got to where my practice required

2602
02:12:03.960 --> 02:12:06.000
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent of my efforts on one side or

2603
02:12:06.039 --> 02:12:10.920
<v Speaker 2>the other. And and you know, I my commitment to

2604
02:12:10.960 --> 02:12:13.920
<v Speaker 2>my clients that are my injury clients and stuff. I mean,

2605
02:12:14.279 --> 02:12:18.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm I'm on those cases for sometimes two

2606
02:12:18.039 --> 02:12:20.680
<v Speaker 2>and three years easily, and so you know, that's a

2607
02:12:20.760 --> 02:12:24.439
<v Speaker 2>much bigger commitment than three or four court appearances on

2608
02:12:24.479 --> 02:12:26.279
<v Speaker 2>a criminal case and stuff. So it just got to

2609
02:12:26.279 --> 02:12:29.039
<v Speaker 2>a point where professionally I needed to kind of pick

2610
02:12:29.119 --> 02:12:32.359
<v Speaker 2>between the two, got it, and I totally picked the

2611
02:12:32.399 --> 02:12:34.760
<v Speaker 2>people that I've got my long term commitments with and

2612
02:12:34.800 --> 02:12:35.439
<v Speaker 2>that I've you.

2613
02:12:35.359 --> 02:12:37.359
<v Speaker 7>Know, and you're always on the good side of it. Honestly,

2614
02:12:37.399 --> 02:12:40.000
<v Speaker 7>you're helping people, seriously, you're helping people get back on

2615
02:12:40.039 --> 02:12:43.039
<v Speaker 7>their feet, get back to their life, and getting their damages.

2616
02:12:43.119 --> 02:12:45.640
<v Speaker 7>Hey John, what is your question for red Rocks?

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<v Speaker 20>Hey Mark, So I have four panels on my ropes

2618
02:12:51.880 --> 02:12:57.880
<v Speaker 20>that got installed about seven years ago, and about six

2619
02:12:57.920 --> 02:12:59.720
<v Speaker 20>months ago they just stopped.

2620
02:13:01.680 --> 02:13:03.479
<v Speaker 7>All right, hold on, John, let me take this and

2621
02:13:03.479 --> 02:13:05.640
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna have Brook answer that second we come back,

2622
02:13:05.680 --> 02:13:07.239
<v Speaker 7>so we can give her a few minutes. Hold tight.

2623
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<v Speaker 7>and off the air. Help at troubleshooter dot com. John

2636
02:13:48.720 --> 02:13:51.119
<v Speaker 7>called in, Hey, John, So you've got an old solar

2637
02:13:51.159 --> 02:13:54.800
<v Speaker 7>system on your house for the panels are not working.

2638
02:13:54.880 --> 02:13:57.079
<v Speaker 7>Now that's where we left finish your question.

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<v Speaker 20>Okay, So I was just curious of from what I

2640
02:14:02.800 --> 02:14:06.720
<v Speaker 20>could tell, there's no inverter that's installed like on the

2641
02:14:06.760 --> 02:14:10.319
<v Speaker 20>wall outside my house. I'm assuming there's just an inverter

2642
02:14:10.479 --> 02:14:15.279
<v Speaker 20>underneath each channel or one for all four underneath there

2643
02:14:15.960 --> 02:14:19.039
<v Speaker 20>is there a fuse in there that could go bad

2644
02:14:19.199 --> 02:14:23.319
<v Speaker 20>or what primarily would cause these things to the not produce.

2645
02:14:23.399 --> 02:14:23.960
<v Speaker 2>How old is it?

2646
02:14:24.079 --> 02:14:25.479
<v Speaker 7>Real quick? Then brick jump in.

2647
02:14:27.199 --> 02:14:28.119
<v Speaker 20>They're around seven.

2648
02:14:29.199 --> 02:14:34.359
<v Speaker 10>Is this an off grid or an on grade system?

2649
02:14:34.880 --> 02:14:39.039
<v Speaker 20>So it's producing to a smart meter, That's all I

2650
02:14:39.039 --> 02:14:39.640
<v Speaker 20>could tell you.

2651
02:14:39.760 --> 02:14:40.039
<v Speaker 18>I guess.

2652
02:14:41.359 --> 02:14:43.319
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, So then there's got to be an inverter of

2653
02:14:43.399 --> 02:14:46.199
<v Speaker 9>some sort if it's like sending the power and you're

2654
02:14:46.239 --> 02:14:50.720
<v Speaker 9>still connected to the grid, so your inverter probably went bad,

2655
02:14:51.319 --> 02:14:54.039
<v Speaker 9>is what my guess is. If you only have four panels,

2656
02:14:54.039 --> 02:14:57.359
<v Speaker 9>then it's definitely an in Phase system because there's no

2657
02:14:57.439 --> 02:14:58.960
<v Speaker 9>other system that would support that.

2658
02:15:00.319 --> 02:15:01.199
<v Speaker 10>So you just need to.

2659
02:15:01.119 --> 02:15:04.840
<v Speaker 9>Find that en Phase box and then have somebody come

2660
02:15:04.840 --> 02:15:08.199
<v Speaker 9>out and do you a warranty claim because n Phase

2661
02:15:08.239 --> 02:15:10.840
<v Speaker 9>warranties their systems for twenty five years, so you're well

2662
02:15:10.880 --> 02:15:12.239
<v Speaker 9>within that twenty five year mark.

2663
02:15:12.520 --> 02:15:14.960
<v Speaker 2>So but they don't pay for the service part, right,

2664
02:15:15.119 --> 02:15:15.680
<v Speaker 2>just the part.

2665
02:15:16.319 --> 02:15:17.920
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, they'll pay for the parts. You have to find

2666
02:15:17.920 --> 02:15:18.680
<v Speaker 10>somebody that's going to.

2667
02:15:18.680 --> 02:15:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Come out and I mean do you guys do that?

2668
02:15:21.000 --> 02:15:21.800
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, we absolutely do.

2669
02:15:21.960 --> 02:15:23.560
<v Speaker 7>So you would go out there and if it's what

2670
02:15:23.560 --> 02:15:27.319
<v Speaker 7>you're thinking, you would get it warranted and then basically

2671
02:15:27.359 --> 02:15:29.079
<v Speaker 7>the part would be free and he'd just pay you

2672
02:15:29.159 --> 02:15:31.960
<v Speaker 7>guys labor just an idea, broke. How much is that labor?

2673
02:15:32.079 --> 02:15:32.680
<v Speaker 7>Just an idea?

2674
02:15:32.920 --> 02:15:34.520
<v Speaker 10>It's like two or three hours worth of work for

2675
02:15:34.600 --> 02:15:36.600
<v Speaker 10>it and that's it. That's it. Yeah, it's pretty quick.

2676
02:15:36.720 --> 02:15:41.560
<v Speaker 7>Oh that sounds really straightforward, John, it does. So do

2677
02:15:41.640 --> 02:15:44.960
<v Speaker 7>they give you any and you know it's that particular

2678
02:15:45.039 --> 02:15:48.079
<v Speaker 7>one with the twenty five year warranty because that's the

2679
02:15:48.159 --> 02:15:50.840
<v Speaker 7>only company that made an inverter for four panels.

2680
02:15:51.000 --> 02:15:54.079
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, so anything that's eight panels or less has got

2681
02:15:54.079 --> 02:15:56.319
<v Speaker 9>to be en phase because everything else is DC and

2682
02:15:56.359 --> 02:15:57.199
<v Speaker 9>it cannot operate.

2683
02:15:58.119 --> 02:16:01.600
<v Speaker 7>Wow, that's a real small system though, John, how much

2684
02:16:01.640 --> 02:16:04.600
<v Speaker 7>when everything was working, if you even own the house

2685
02:16:04.640 --> 02:16:07.000
<v Speaker 7>at the time, I mean, how much would that offset

2686
02:16:07.039 --> 02:16:08.680
<v Speaker 7>your energy?

2687
02:16:09.079 --> 02:16:10.479
<v Speaker 20>Oh not buy a whole bunch.

2688
02:16:10.840 --> 02:16:10.960
<v Speaker 18>Uh.

2689
02:16:11.840 --> 02:16:13.520
<v Speaker 20>I couldn't even tell you to kill a watch, but

2690
02:16:14.039 --> 02:16:19.399
<v Speaker 20>it was pretty insignificant. We got it more for the Well,

2691
02:16:19.439 --> 02:16:22.760
<v Speaker 20>we got an upgrade on our use panel and we

2692
02:16:22.840 --> 02:16:24.600
<v Speaker 20>got insulation put in our attics.

2693
02:16:24.840 --> 02:16:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I got you.

2694
02:16:25.600 --> 02:16:28.439
<v Speaker 7>You got you took advantage of like an Excel rebate

2695
02:16:28.520 --> 02:16:29.920
<v Speaker 7>or something along those terms.

2696
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<v Speaker 20>Yeah, yeah, okay, Well that's good.

2697
02:16:35.360 --> 02:16:36.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, I mean call them up.

2698
02:16:36.719 --> 02:16:39.520
<v Speaker 7>Just go to redrocksars dot com and all the people

2699
02:16:39.559 --> 02:16:41.920
<v Speaker 7>that come out and work on it and swap that

2700
02:16:42.040 --> 02:16:45.040
<v Speaker 7>out and help you. They all work directly for a brook.

2701
02:16:45.440 --> 02:16:48.040
<v Speaker 7>I mean that's it. It's pretty simple like that, John Fuller.

2702
02:16:48.200 --> 02:16:52.840
<v Speaker 7>And by the way, redrocksars dot com once again commercial systems.

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<v Speaker 7>They do all kinds of repairs, residential, commercial, you name it.

2704
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<v Speaker 7>Everybody's in house Redrocksars dot com. John Fuller, good seeing

2705
02:17:00.600 --> 02:17:03.520
<v Speaker 7>you as always, and everybody else, have a great day.

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<v Speaker 7>Tomorrow is car day right here on the Troubleshooter Show,
