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Speaker 1: I've been a part of sharing the story of NBC's

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The Voice since twenty sixteen, but they've been scattered across

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all the digital platforms. Now all of those conversations are

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in one location. Arro dot net a r Oe dot

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net look for that voice. Trinity. Congratulations on this present

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day journey, because you are in such an amazing place

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and man, I just cannot wait to watch you grow

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beyond where you were not even five six months ago.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, It's been very exciting for me.

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Speaker 1: What is it like for your creativity, because that's one

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thing that a lot of people don't put focus on

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that it took that creativity to get you to this stage. Now,

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how do you nurture that?

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Speaker 2: I really just try to compete with my previous self

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from the past round each time. I just try to

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reimagine how can I actually push myself and make certain

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songs my own even more than before.

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Speaker 1: When you make a song your own, though, because if

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there are many times my dad would turn around in

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the car and look at me saying, stop, let the

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original singer sing it, how do you deal with people

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that are do you even get that look?

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Speaker 2: I don't really get that too much. I really try

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to make changes, but be tasteful about it. I don't

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like to change certain things too much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to ask you one thing about your question,

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and Bill can chime in on this as well. There's

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something about your voice that is absolutely magnetizing because the

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way that you're delivering the air from your lungs with

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your vocal cords, that is exactly what producers are looking

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for when it comes to commercial copy and or just speakingly,

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if you were to read a book on tape or whatever,

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You've got something with your voice that is just amazing

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your speaking voice.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So then where did that come from? Has somebody

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sat down with you and said, okay, here's what I

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need you to do, Trinity, When you deliver a thought,

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you need to give me some pitch, volume and tone.

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Where did that come from? Because that is a god

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given talent that you've got.

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Speaker 2: Oh I mean, I really didn't think about it too much.

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I'm just talking, and.

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Speaker 1: Yet radio people will spend years trying to develop that

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kind of talk.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, I probably got it from listening to the

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radio growing up.

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Speaker 1: Where does your connection with music begin?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 1: Because I mean, for so many people it's like it

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could be listening to a song. It could be your

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grandmother in the kitchen or just being outside in the

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forest like freaky me.

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Speaker 2: Well, I got it from my family. My family's pretty musical,

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and I would just grow up listening to my aunt

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sing I would listen to all the greats and they

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would play like a lot of the classic people like

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the Whitney, Houstons and Prints and just so many great singers.

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I would grow up listening to Beyonceday, And I feel like,

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when you're able to listen to the greats do what

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they do, you pick up on that and it just

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becomes a part of you. When you what it's time

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for you to be creative in your own way?

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Speaker 1: How do you answer that call? Because I mean, look,

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I mean as a radio person of forty six years,

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I mean I get that call at two three o'clock

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in the morning, Get up, go to the studio, do

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your thing, because when you wake up, it ain't gonna

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be there.

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Speaker 2: How do I instit the call in a way of life.

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Speaker 1: And create trinity in cre Yeah? Because I mean, I

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mean I may listen. I mean Lil Wayne will tell

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you his best time to be inside that studio is

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two o'clock in the morning. Well, what about Trinity.

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Speaker 2: Oh, for me, if I have to get an idea,

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I'll just I mean, I'm so glad we have our

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phones now because I can just do the voice. Yeah,

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it's so much better this way, and I just take

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some voice memos, I come back to it at a

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time where I can really do something about it, and

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it's just been a lifesaver.

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Speaker 1: I laugh at that only because in my early years

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of locating music in my own soul, you went to

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kmart because that was the cheapest reel to real tape

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you could get, or you could get a thing called

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a cassette tape recorder. Oh my god. So, I mean,

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I'm so jealous of today's generation of just whip out

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the phone. Let's let us lay this down right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty convenient. Wow.

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Speaker 1: So that one of the things that I find so

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inspiring about you, Trinity, is the fact that you are

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committed to collaborations, and that has always been my game.

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But I've written so much on iHeartRadio about the team

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of one, and I hope and pray that you do

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not become the team of one, and that you surround

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yourself with people that will take your gift and it

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will and you'll share it with the rest of the world,

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because being a team of one is something that it

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can be kind of lonely at times, but you seem

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to be the one that's gonna go, ah, I'm moving

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through and these guys are coming with me.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, When I look at all of our most successful

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artists from the past, it was never just them. It

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was never a team of one. You need people with you, you

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have to collaborate, but it has to be you know,

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of course the selection people who are on the same

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level as you, and it has to be people who

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have the same vision as you. So I really pray

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that I come across my tribe with people who are

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gonna do things the way I want to do them,

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you know, or be able to show me a new

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way of how to really be successful at you know,

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having a great career and putting out great music and

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you know, carrying myself a certain kind of way that'll

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get me far. Don't know, I definitely don't want to

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do a team of one.

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Speaker 1: Don't you love those moments? So when you learn something

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new and it's like your imagination doesn't want to let

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it go because it's like you want to perfect it.

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But in martial arts they say you have to do

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it ten thousand times in order to master it. So

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what about as a vocal artist with music, how many

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times do you have to practice it before you know it?

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And you basically you're you're not going through the motions,

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but you're living it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm I'm like a tyrant to myself. Not okay,

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that might be like a bit strong, But when we

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were gearing up for battles and knockouts, especially knockouts, I'll

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say me and a few of the contestants would just

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go and do like a boot camp situation like every

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night and just run our songs and critique each other.

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And that was really important to me because I feel

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like you can be talented, but without the hard work

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of actually exercising those abilities that you have, it doesn't

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really matter. You know.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about those knockout rounds, and the reason why

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is because I swear to you this was the first

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season and I've been a part of NBC's The Voice

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for decades, all the way back, and the thing is

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is that those knockout rounds have been exciting, but I

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don't know what it is about this year, Trinity that

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I literally will remove myself from the sofa and sit

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right in front of the TV. I think it's because

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I want to get so close to what you are

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guys are doing vocally as well as you know, visually,

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because I mean, it's like you guys are doing something

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different this season that I've never seen before on NBC's

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Speaker 2: Really, So what would you say that you think is

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different from other seasons.

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Speaker 1: I think that it's about, you know, showcasing the individuality,

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but at the same time, it's also showcasing a common

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thread of creativity in the way of saying, let me

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share with you how I do it, now, what is

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your interpretation so that we can work together. I mean,

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I see smiles between everybody who's singing. I see it,

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even even with the judges. There's such a realm of

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something that is happening this season during the knockouts, and

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when you go back and watch it, I swear to God,

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you're gonna feel it.

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Speaker 2: I definitely have to go back and look at what

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you're saying, because I haven't noticed it. I've just been

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so present in the moment when I'm up there and

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it's just usually so much fun and you don't even

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notice how much fun you're having and you look back

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on it and everybody's like beaming.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad that you said fun, because so many

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people still call it a competition and I don't get

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that vibe at all. I get that it's it's it's

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even bigger and better than band Camp. This is an

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opportunity for the future of music to have a place

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to grow.

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Speaker 2: I think so too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's talk about your hometown, Locke City, USA.

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I giggled like a child when I saw that because

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I love locks. Why am I not living in your hometown?

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Because that's what I love in life, Locks.

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Speaker 2: In Stanford.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called Locke City, USA. And it just blows

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me away when I find out little stuff like that,

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because it makes me want to come there. Now.

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Speaker 2: You know what's funny, I didn't even know that myself

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been here for Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, I love Stanford.

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been here don't necessarily understand why I love it so much.

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place where it's kind of like city suburban. Yeah, And

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people always like, oh, so where would you want to

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live like after everything? And I'm like, I don't think

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you guys have been to Stanford. I would study here forever.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. Only because creative people

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are attached to the atmosphere around them. Is it because

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of the song of the bird. Is there something that's

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happening in Stanford that is universal that is getting you

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by the creative control and saying, hey, listen to this,

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grow this were you there? In other words, the energy

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of the city is using you as a tool to

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embrace the rest of us.

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Speaker 2: Funny enough, Stanford is not a very like artsy musical

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kind of scene. Like there's not much of that here.

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Like I really have to go to the city or

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go further up Connecticut to get that whole musical feel.

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It's really not the place that does that. But I

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think there's some grounding about it for me because I

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guess it gives me a break from that scene.

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Speaker 1: No, I totally get that because you know, being here

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in Charlotte of two point one million, what happens is

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is that you know, if I were to go in

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uptown Charlotte, it would drive me insane. But being out

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here where I am in the city with this forest

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and stuff like that, No, I totally get it. And

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I think maybe that's the reason why I'm in love

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with it with your town because it is you know.

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I mean, you're thirty miles from New York City. That's

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a place where you can go and just be yourself

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and it's so convenient. People think it's like so

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far away, and I'm like, guys, I'm like an hour

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car ride. It's not that serious. But you know, it

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just gives me the right balance that I need to

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turn it on and turn it off.

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Speaker 1: So do you take the train into town? Because build

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us your producer there, he takes the train in all

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the time. So what is it like for you to

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Speaker 2: As a woman, I don't necessarily feel the safest on

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the train, especially because if I'm doing music, I have

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to travel later in the evening, so I will drive.

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But you know, it's clol was enough to do either.

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Speaker 1: Or please do not move. There's more with Trinity coming

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up next. Hey, thanks for coming back to the conversation.

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Let's check in with Trinity from NBC's the Voice. What

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are your disciplines when you're inside that studio? Marvin Gaye

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was known for grabbing a broom and sweeping the floor.

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Bon Jovi was all about setting up the studio for

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other bands. Is there something that you do as a

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ritual that really does bring up that relationship between you

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Speaker 2: You know a lot of people have these things that

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they do, and I've heard about them growing up, but

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I don't think that I have one yet, And if

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I do, I don't necessarily realize it. I kind of

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just go in. I lock in, and it's music until

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it's time to go.

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Speaker 1: How are you protecting that voice? Because my god, when

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I get in there, everybody says, oh, I want to

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hear you do a radio commercial, and it's like, oh,

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this is going to cost me money if I blow

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out a vocal cord. What are you doing to check

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that voice?

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Speaker 2: I just try to drink tea. I eat a lot

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of soup. Right now. I think the weather kind of

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has me with a little cold, but you know, we're

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getting through it. So I just try not to I

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don't smoke or anything. I just try to like stay

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away from things I could hurt my voice.

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Speaker 1: Do you make your own soup? Because I'm here in

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Carolina where can get cold as well. In fact, this

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weekend it's going to be cold up there where you are,

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so there for me? Are you making soup?

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Speaker 2: I do make soup quite more than the average person, honestly,

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Speaker 1: What did your favorite go to? Because I am on

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this real big kick right now to reinvent hot and

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sour soup that usually find at an Asian restaurant because

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I believe it should be the main course and not

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the beginning course.

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Speaker 2: Well, I also I love Asian food. It's my favorite.

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or actually I just started making egg drop soup. It's

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Speaker 1: Nice. Nice. Now, when you're making the chicken soup, do

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you go overboard on the pepper because you know it's

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going into your sinuses and you got to clear that

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monkey out. I do.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of like a pepper.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and people will come up and say,

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why you got so much pepper in it? For me?

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I'm so sorry that you're having your participating in your buddy,

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it's for me.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: So at the age of twenty five. I know where

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I was at twenty five, And the thing is, is

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that to me, that was the jumping point. In other words,

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it's like, get on with it, let's make it move.

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What is it like for you in your stage of

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life where you're on this gigantic NBC's the Voice, and

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it's like, you're at that that one point where it's like,

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what do I do for my next path? Are you?

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Are you writing it out? Are you what are you

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doing to plan for it? After NBC's the voice?

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Speaker 2: WHOA that is a great question. I mean personally, I'm

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very excited to work with new people so that I

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could map that out, because I can be very honest

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and saying that I don't know everything, and I think

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that's the first step in success is knowing that there

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are other people who know more than you that could

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help you. And I'm very open to whoever that may be,

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you know, in the future. So like, while I know

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the artistic side, I don't know about like managing or

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what it takes to handle all of those business aspects

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and putting myself in other rooms. So I'm really excited

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to see who I'll be working with in the future

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that will make that come to life and care about

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it as much as I care about my artistry.

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Speaker 1: That's so interesting that you bring that up because in

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my research of this conversation, one of the things that

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I put on my paper in big letters, it says

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she makes herself available. So in doing research, that's exactly

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what I picked up on you, is that you make

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yourself available. And I believe is the secret sauce to

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making music. And I mean, you're wearing it people can

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see on the outside.

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Speaker 2: Wow. I mean it's so funny, like when you're you,

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you don't notice how people are seeing you. But if

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that's what I'm giving off, I absolutely love that. And

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I am available, which is usually why things tend to

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work out in a very positive way for me. So

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I want to keep being this way.

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Speaker 1: When critics call you an indie artist, I mean I

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came up in the nineteen nineties on the air, there

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were a lot of indie artists trying to do things.

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I mean, the Vans Warped Tour, everything was all about

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being an indie artist. What is that in twenty twenty five?

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Growing forward?

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Speaker 2: So I feel like with this access that we have

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to the internet now we don't necessarily have to fit

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one box because we've discovered so many audiences for so

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many different things. So it allows me to be whatever

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kind of niche that I want and know that there

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will be support behind it.

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Speaker 1: That is so true because I mean, look at Shaboozi.

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I mean, come on now, ten fifteen years ago, Shaboozi

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would not be on a top forty radio station. It

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would be country, and even then people would be going,

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what we don't have that kind of base beating country music?

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But yet what is Shaboozie doing right now but breaking

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down the doors? And so now here comes Trinity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, funny you said Shaboozi because it brings

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me to Beyonce, who has currently just been breaking down

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doors and like basically showing people I can sing whatever

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genre that I want to sing and you're gonna love

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it every time or hate it. But I don't think

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they hate comes from a technical place. But you know,

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I really appreciate those kinds of people who really just

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carve their own path, regardless of whatever the feedback is

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going to be, and just do an amazing job at it.

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Wow speak, I can't wait to do that myself.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Beyonce. Way way way back, there was there

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were these three girls that came to Gastoni and North Carolina,

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which is just up the highway, and they were gonna

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do an outdoor performance as total nobody's and with them

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they brought all of these fashions. They gave away the

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clothes to the locals while performing a song. Beyonce did that.

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That was her mother's designs when it came to clothing.

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She was so into the community at that time. That's

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why I mean, I was like, I got a player.

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I got a player. She loves the community. I gotta

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play Beyonce. What do you what do you see in

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something like that when these invisible stories of the artists

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that have made it, well.

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Speaker 2: She's She's honestly one of my I would say she's

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definitely a blueprint for anybody who wants to be great

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at this. And one thing I noticed about her early

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career is that she also made herself very available and

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she worked so hard. And a lot of people don't

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understand that because they just think, oh, Beyonce, she's perfect.

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She has everything handed to her, and you know, just

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because she didn't start off like struggling or anything, but

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I think there's something to be said about somebody who

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has come from a great background and a great family

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and still decided to have that drive. And she would

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do a bunch of shows like I know Destiny Child

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has performed at like Mall's before, and like they just

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they would just take any opportunity to perform and to speak.

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And her work ethic is just so inspiring to me,

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and it just lets me know, like even like as

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another black female artist, and lets me know that if

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you actually work hard at it, like even though certain

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doors may be close to you, you are able to

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bust those doors down if you just stick with it

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and you actually believe in what you're doing. And that

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has been true in so many scenarios on my own journey.

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So I really do have a lot of respect for

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artists like Beyonce, because I mean there's a lot of

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things that I probably wouldn't be able to do if

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she hadn't. Right, No, it's right, put that work in.

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Speaker 1: Well, what do you think you're doing that is going

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to inspire somebody that's going to be on season number

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forty one on NBC's The Voice.

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Speaker 2: I think that me just staying true to myself and

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advocating for how I want to appear on stage, how

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I want to sound, and really being grounded in my

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own artistry and my own identity is going to well.

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I've already been told like back home, like oh, you're

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so inspiring to me, and like my little cousin loves

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up to you. And it's a really cool thing to

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hear back because I'm just moving through this thinking that

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I'm fighting for myself, and whole time I have to

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look at it on a broader scale and realize that

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I'm fighting for other little girls that want to do

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what I'm doing. Someday. It just makes me feel good

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to know that, you know, like staking true to myself

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is always going to be rewarding.

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Speaker 1: That is very inspiring because you're absolutely right about that.

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Because someone who's listening to this conversation right now could

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be locked up in their bedroom right now or a

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business office. They've got the skills to be a singer

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or a songwriter, and the thing is is they don't

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have someone like you to say just do it, just

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do it. And you're the one that's stepping forward saying

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just do it, just do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, like, just do it. And I

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always feel that way, especially when I meet other people

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that I think are super talented and doing the same

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thing as me. It excites me and I feel like,

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you know, there's room for all of us to shine,

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and it doesn't take anything away from me to see

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other people do well as well. So I hope that

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I can inspire somebody, or that I am inspiring somebody

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right now when they hear this.

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Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about U, Trinity?

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Because I want them to understand your entire journey. That's

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the martial artist coming out of me, because we're all

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about what what is today had to happen a different

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time that creates this moment. So I want people to

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really dive into your story.

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Speaker 2: I think, uh, I don't really have much posted anywhere

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about like my actual story itself. I think, you know,

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we use social media casually and I'm starting to get

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more into opening my personality up to people, and I

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think through these interviews is actually a place where you

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can find more about me, and it's making me more

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comfortable to actually share myself.

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Speaker 1: But you know, a little bit of mystique is perfect

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because led Zeppelin, they always say, is the greatest mysterious

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band of all time. And look at the group kiss

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with their makeup. Oh would they have been popular without

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that makeup? I'm not thinking so.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Trindy, you got to come back to this show

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anytime in the future because I love being with those

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that are appear on the show, because you've got the

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guts to grow forward and that just inspires me.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, And it's been great like talking to you,

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and honestly, you've had pretty like unique questions that really

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excited me and like, okay, great, like I can dive

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into something else. So just thank you for opening the

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floor and give me the chance to speak on you know,

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my journey and it's just been great talking to you.

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So thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Would you be brilliant today?

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Speaker 2: Okay you as well. Happy holidays.

