Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here, something just cause my dog.
Speaker 2: Something killed your dog, my dog.
Speaker 1: We're flying through the or over the tree. I don't
Speaker 1: know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm really confused.
Speaker 1: All I saw was my dog coming over the fence
Speaker 1: and he was dead. And once you hit the ground like,
Speaker 1: I didn't see any cars. All I saw was my
Speaker 1: dog coming over the fence. Happen? What are you putting?
Speaker 1: We got some wonder or something prowling around out here?
Speaker 1: Did you see what it was?
Speaker 2: Or was it was?
Speaker 1: Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now
Speaker 1: and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside.
Speaker 1: Jesus Quice you better New York. Hello, get somebody out here.
Speaker 1: What quent on out there? I thought of a bit
Speaker 1: just about picking what nine? I don't know? Easy out there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm right heady.
Speaker 2: Oh hey, greetings, his friend Alaska. Thanks for joining me
Speaker 2: today in a lot of work, getting caught up in
Speaker 2: the background with a lot of things, reconnecting with people.
Speaker 2: I wanted to start off by saying it's really important
Speaker 2: I've shared before, but love your people, whether it be
Speaker 2: a wife of almost twenty years, or your kids that
Speaker 2: you don't see that often. Your people. You could pick
Speaker 2: your friends, you can't pick your family. But love your people. Man,
Speaker 2: that's key because tomorrow and promised. This world is just crazy,
Speaker 2: even outside of the crazy wilderness of Alaska and what
Speaker 2: goes on around here. So what I wanted to share
Speaker 2: with you today comes from Brian and Casey. Now, Brian
Speaker 2: and Casey, they decided they were going to team up.
Speaker 2: Brian has a pilot's license, Casey was gifted through his
Speaker 2: dad a piper cup, and so they being buddies and stuff,
Speaker 2: they figured, hey, let's going together, get the plane back
Speaker 2: up to running, basically partaking a partnership, flying out doing trapping,
Speaker 2: and get the fur bearers and make some money. You
Speaker 2: see what they could do about her. And this is
Speaker 2: roughly twenty years ago. So we're going back to six
Speaker 2: seven wintertime about this time of year because fur bearing
Speaker 2: animals you get him in the wintertime because that's when
Speaker 2: they're coachs, thickest and most lush. So Brian and Casey
Speaker 2: they're going out into the Chugach Range.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: They didn't want the exact place because it varies. They'll
Speaker 2: land in a spot they'll put us set out, they'll
Speaker 2: line up a few different sets for pind Martin, Wolverine,
Speaker 2: what have you. So they're bouncing around and doing their
Speaker 2: thing well. As Brian was in the back seat and
Speaker 2: Casey was flying this one particular trip, Casey was just
Speaker 2: basically he didn't have as many flight hours as Brian,
Speaker 2: so Casey was taking his time and kind of filling
Speaker 2: out the plane and doing just little maneuvers. Nothing made.
Speaker 2: And on one of his hard turns he was making
Speaker 2: with enough altitude, of course, he was making this turn
Speaker 2: to the right, and it just so happens that Brian
Speaker 2: looks down and it's an open kind of area. There's
Speaker 2: some open marsh areas in between the spruce trees and
Speaker 2: the birch and the aspen, and as he's circling around
Speaker 2: in this valley, Brian when he looks down, he notices
Speaker 2: a tree he thought was a tree that looked out
Speaker 2: of place. The coloring was different, and it just stood out.
Speaker 2: It was damn near right in the middle of this meadow,
Speaker 2: this open area, which initially from the air it didn't
Speaker 2: look like a very large area, but once they came
Speaker 2: down from altitude, it was obviously a lot wider open place.
Speaker 2: So Brian gets Casey's attention, Hey, look there, Look at there.
Speaker 2: Casey was just focusing on his maneuver and wasn't necessarily
Speaker 2: paying attention to Brian because obviously his gauges and everything.
Speaker 2: He wasn't crashing, so he wasn't really paying attention to Brian.
Speaker 2: Brian gets his attention, and Casey sees what he sees,
Speaker 2: and so they decide, hey, you know what we're going
Speaker 2: to do. Well, was it back around? We'll do the
Speaker 2: figure eight turn, come back in low, and let's land.
Speaker 2: Brian was initially with it, right, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: well land, We'll see what the heck is that because
Speaker 2: it wasn't moving. It was just out of place. It
Speaker 2: was a brownish, reddish, rusty kind of color looking, and
Speaker 2: they're like, must be a tree stump of some kind,
Speaker 2: but it's so out of place. So they circle back around,
Speaker 2: and as they're coming down and they're getting lined up
Speaker 2: to land into the wind, they notice because they still
Speaker 2: have some altitude at this point, a few hundred feet,
Speaker 2: and this thing holds takes off from directly in front
Speaker 2: of them, off to the right, hits the tree. Lin Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it was fast. It startled Casey and so
Speaker 2: he powers back up because he was just getting ready
Speaker 2: to slip and slow down his air speed to get
Speaker 2: ready for landing.
Speaker 3: So powers back up. They circle around.
Speaker 2: When they get back up to an altitude and circle back,
Speaker 2: Brian's looking, He's got binoculars out, He's trying to really
Speaker 2: look in case He's kind of shaken.
Speaker 3: He's like, what the hell was that? It ran so fast?
Speaker 2: Couldn't really figure it out because it was gone, disappeared
Speaker 2: in the trees. They didn't know what the hell to do,
Speaker 2: so they just decided, you know what, screw this or
Speaker 2: just carry on. They continue on to the next spot,
Speaker 2: multiple miles away. When they get to the spot where
Speaker 2: they had some sets, they land and they taxi to
Speaker 2: where they want to take off from. They get out,
Speaker 2: put on their snow shoes, and they just trek in
Speaker 2: with a small caliber rifle. They get over to where
Speaker 2: the sets start, each and every one, which they're decently
Speaker 2: spread apart, but they were all in a line across
Speaker 2: this tree line running along one side of this valley.
Speaker 2: Each and every one of the sets looked like it
Speaker 2: was either tripped or if there had been something in
Speaker 2: it there's only a little bit of fur left in
Speaker 2: the trap, or the trap was just missing, right, And
Speaker 2: they're like, what the hell. It's taken them a while,
Speaker 2: because again they're in snowshoes. It's deep snow. It's twenty
Speaker 2: years ago. We're still getting really decent snowfalls. We still do,
Speaker 2: unless they're playing with heart, but anyway, regardless, So as
Speaker 2: they're walking the tree line, Casey has a survival rifle,
Speaker 2: which is like a four to ten twenty two combo
Speaker 2: single shot of each Brian happens to have a twelve
Speaker 2: gage marine style breakopen single shot. Brian always brings slugs
Speaker 2: in bird shot and that type of thing, right, so
Speaker 2: he has a different kind of variety of slugs what
Speaker 2: have you in his pouch. And they're walking along and
Speaker 2: since they landed, it's been about forty five minutes, right,
Speaker 2: Because they're stopping, they're looking at each and every individual
Speaker 2: whether the trap was sprung and nothing was there, or
Speaker 2: is just outright missing. They're trying to piece together what
Speaker 2: the hell's going on? Does someone else fly in? Is
Speaker 2: someone stealing our traps? They're brainstorming back and forth. They
Speaker 2: get almost to the end of this particular line as
Speaker 2: they're getting close to the end of it. They had
Speaker 2: a set for a wolverine, right, and they go over
Speaker 2: and they could see some fur from the trap and whatnot, so, oh, hey,
Speaker 2: we have something, right. So Casey, being in the lead
Speaker 2: by just a couple of paces, chomps over there in
Speaker 2: the snow shoes. When he gets over there, he immediately
Speaker 2: stops and he's reaching out with the barrel of this
Speaker 2: survival rifle poking at it. All it turned out to
Speaker 2: be was this tuft of hair, but it was sticking
Speaker 2: out of the snow. From the distance they were initially at,
Speaker 2: it gave the illusion that there was something trapped there,
Speaker 2: and so when Brian comes up beside him, he's what
Speaker 2: the hell, and so he goes over and he figured
Speaker 2: it was deadlking off of a pine tree or or
Speaker 2: a spruce chair or whatever, because he can get black
Speaker 2: and look like an old man's beard or whatever. So
Speaker 2: he goes over here. It takes a look and it's
Speaker 2: this weird hair and it has a weird smell to it.
Speaker 2: Like for the amount of hair, it wasn't a whole lot,
Speaker 2: but it was enough, and the smell on the hair
Speaker 2: was punging. And so as they're discussing, what the hell
Speaker 2: we don't have skunks up here, and it smells like
Speaker 2: like a body odor urine kind of smell in the distance,
Speaker 2: same direction. They'd been walking towards the end of that
Speaker 2: far into that valley, the planes like behind them. They
Speaker 2: got multiple hundreds of yards to get back to where
Speaker 2: the plane is set up for takeoff. Right his way
Speaker 2: back there, it's sitting there, they hear this scream right
Speaker 2: and from what Casey said, the scream shook everything inside him,
Speaker 2: not just physically but metaphorically, like his whole well being
Speaker 2: was shattered. He said that one scream just took all
Speaker 2: the fight out of him. He immediately he dropped a
Speaker 2: rifle out of his hand. He was down on his knees, shaking,
Speaker 2: and he's like trying to fight for words to say
Speaker 2: what the hell is at Brian was like already sitting
Speaker 2: there taking the bird shot out of that brake barrel,
Speaker 2: single shot, twelve gage, and he's putting the slug in
Speaker 2: and he's not looking at Casey. He's looking in the
Speaker 2: direction right where the scream came from, because their guestimation
Speaker 2: it was within a few hundred yards straight down the
Speaker 2: tree line where it curves towards the back end of
Speaker 2: this valley where they're checking their sets. Brian is sitting
Speaker 2: there and he's talking to Casey. But Casey at this
Speaker 2: time is not checked out, but he's just what the fuck,
Speaker 2: what the hell is at He's having his own conversation
Speaker 2: within himself and not hearing Brian, and Brian's trying to
Speaker 2: talk to him about, Hey, that was weird, and Brian's
Speaker 2: asking him questions about what the hell could that be?
Speaker 2: And this and that, and Casey's trying to pull himself
Speaker 2: together because, like I said, Casey, it hit him hard,
Speaker 2: really hard, to the core of his being. He was shook,
Speaker 2: which I get, Hey, man, I'm not knocking the guy whatsoever. Man,
Speaker 2: I've heard that scream. I felt that feeling. It's jarring
Speaker 2: to the system. To say the least. He could really
Speaker 2: take it out of you. So again, it just everyone
Speaker 2: reacts differently in those circumstances. And even Casey was like,
Speaker 2: when I asked him, how did it feel? And after
Speaker 2: he initially told me that it took the fight right
Speaker 2: out of him and it was like he was grasping
Speaker 2: for understanding. He said that the feeling he got was
Speaker 2: the one of being watched and despised. And when I
Speaker 2: asked Brian, what'd you feel when you're standing there, and
Speaker 2: he wasn't communicating back, but you're talking, what were you feeling?
Speaker 2: Because that's really important. I think everyone should know what
Speaker 2: these people were feeling in those moments. In their words,
Speaker 2: Brian felt the same way. He said he felt like
Speaker 2: he was hated, like he was just despised beyond anything else.
Speaker 2: So Casey pulls himself together enough to stand back up
Speaker 2: on his feet. He grabs that survival rifle. They're like,
Speaker 2: let's get back towards the plane. They got a couple
Speaker 2: hours before it's going to get dark, but again playing
Speaker 2: his hundred yards the other direction, and they want to
Speaker 2: clear some ground right because it's further to get to
Speaker 2: the plane than it is from where that noise was.
Speaker 2: So they're going right along the tree line. They're trying
Speaker 2: to follow their tracks back. Since Casey was really having
Speaker 2: a really hard go of it emotionally speaking, it just
Speaker 2: hit him in his core like that. Brian said, you
Speaker 2: get going, I'm going to be behind you. I'm going
Speaker 2: to keep track. You just don't focus and zone me out.
Speaker 2: If I yell and scream something. We pay attention and
Speaker 2: answer me back or whatever. Don't get too far ahead.
Speaker 2: So they're doing that. Casey's going along Brian. They get
Speaker 2: about he said it was about one hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: yards because after the initial scream it was just dead quiet,
Speaker 2: and so they got about one hundred and fifty yards
Speaker 2: back towards the plane, and they still had a couple
Speaker 2: hundred yards ago at least the scream happened again. The
Speaker 2: scream happened, Brian said he had just looked back over
Speaker 2: his shoulders, saw no movement, took a real long look,
Speaker 2: and then turned back, and as soon as he was
Speaker 2: facing the opposite direction, that scream happened again. But it
Speaker 2: was so much closer. He said, it felt like whatever
Speaker 2: it was right off his shoulder. Freaked him out. He said,
Speaker 2: he damner jumped out of his snowshoes. He stumbled, fell over,
Speaker 2: and he's pointing the rifle back at the tree line
Speaker 2: and again single shot twelve games. But he had something right,
Speaker 2: and he's pointing back at the tree line, and he said,
Speaker 2: he's so freaked out. He's trying to focus, but all
Speaker 2: the trees and everything, it was very hard for him
Speaker 2: to pull himself together in that panic mode, that fight
Speaker 2: or flight was just so heavy for him. He felt
Speaker 2: like he should be running and not looking, but he
Speaker 2: knew it was close enough he couldn't just turn his back.
Speaker 2: Brian said. He worked his way up onto his knees
Speaker 2: and then got up on he had lost one of
Speaker 2: his snowshoes because of trying to get up. He had
Speaker 2: something had broke on one of them, or whatever it is,
Speaker 2: the right foot slipped out. By this time, Casey had
Speaker 2: already heard that too, and Casey wasn't all that far
Speaker 2: ahead of him, So Casey had turned around, stopped, and
Speaker 2: was pointing his rifle. Grant you a little underpowered, but
Speaker 2: still he was scanning the area too. So Casey backtracks
Speaker 2: over to where Brian is there at the tree line
Speaker 2: from where this second scream came from, and get his
Speaker 2: foot into the snowshoe, because otherwise he can be sinking
Speaker 2: down to almost his hip. You don't want to be
Speaker 2: doing that, not in that situation. So from what Brian said,
Speaker 2: as he's trying to focus on getting a snowshoe on,
Speaker 2: he said, there's a period of time where he wasn't
Speaker 2: feeling like himself right.
Speaker 3: Brian is sitting there. He's trying to stay.
Speaker 2: Focused on these trees because the scream just came from
Speaker 2: there and Casey had backtracked right, And again they weren't
Speaker 2: communicating very well because they were both freaked freaked out
Speaker 2: fake time. So as Casey got closer, he finally got
Speaker 2: Brian's attention because obviously he's freaking out. What do you
Speaker 2: do with that kind of thing? And so Casey gets
Speaker 2: his attention says, hey, keep an eye, go and fix
Speaker 2: your snowshoe with Let's get going. So Brian sets down
Speaker 2: the shotgun and he's trying to fix this binding and
Speaker 2: whatnot for a snowshoe. He said, when he knelt down
Speaker 2: and he was just about getting it reclasped with whatever
Speaker 2: was going on with it, it was like a busted
Speaker 2: rivet or something, and he was just trying to MC
Speaker 2: guy right out of there. He said. As he was
Speaker 2: working on that, he kept glancing up because out of
Speaker 2: his peripheral vision he started seeing something in the trees,
Speaker 2: and he starts yelling out. He grabs up that single
Speaker 2: shot shotgun and he points to that direction. He's yelling
Speaker 2: at Casey hate over here in Casey's I see it,
Speaker 2: I see it. I don't want to shoot. Brian understands.
Speaker 2: Brian didn't want to shoot. He had twelve gage, far
Speaker 2: better than the twenty two and the four to ten
Speaker 2: combo that the Casey had. They're both just sitting there
Speaker 2: saying what should we do? What should we do? So
Speaker 2: what they end up doing because they still have a
Speaker 2: few hundred yards to get back to the plane. Way down,
Speaker 2: they see it, but it's not like they're just a
Speaker 2: couple trots away from it. In Casey's let's just go together,
Speaker 2: shoulder or shoulder, and just take our time and work
Speaker 2: our way back. Their tracks walking down the tree line
Speaker 2: were real close to the trees, but now they don't
Speaker 2: want to be so close to the trees, so they're
Speaker 2: breaking trail again, and it's taking time. Obviously time is
Speaker 2: of the essence. They don't want to be there any
Speaker 2: longer than they have to be. So Brian is just
Speaker 2: chatting with Casey. They're trying to have a normal everyday
Speaker 2: conversation about the traps and the next place they stop,
Speaker 2: and this and that. They're trying to take their mind
Speaker 2: off of how panic they felt. He said, they made
Speaker 2: it about another one hundred yards and they could hear
Speaker 2: movement in the trees this whole time after he had
Speaker 2: stopped to bend down to fix his binding and everything
Speaker 2: on the shoe, and it still wasn't perfect, but he
Speaker 2: was able to make do. And he wasn't trying to
Speaker 2: stop and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see,
Speaker 2: we'll be right back after these messages. So as they
Speaker 2: just shouldered and shoulder and working their way backwards, which
Speaker 2: time consuming deep Snow, it's not a simple thing. It's
Speaker 2: not a simple process, he said. They got about another
Speaker 2: one hundred yards and this guttural grunt, he said he
Speaker 2: felt it through their whole bodies, and that stopped him
Speaker 2: in their tracks. And they both just instinctively raised their
Speaker 2: guns and they both fired at the same time. It
Speaker 2: wasn't even a it was like an autopilot thing, like
Speaker 2: an auto response. Wrong or indifferent is irrelevant. That's what
Speaker 2: they felt in the moment, and that's what they did.
Speaker 2: So they both fire off shots. The little survival rifle
Speaker 2: fires a bit differently than the single shot twelve gage, right,
Speaker 2: but they fire what they have b Bam, there's thrashing
Speaker 2: and crashing, moving away. But when they're heard that behind
Speaker 2: them towards the plane off in the tree line, they
Speaker 2: heard something else crashing and brashing and moving, circling back around,
Speaker 2: paralleling them coming back from the direction of the plane
Speaker 2: inside the trees, coming back up this way in the
Speaker 2: direction of the other noise was coming from right the
Speaker 2: direction it was moving. Immediately, they're already shaking, fumbling, try
Speaker 2: to reload their firearms and everything like that. So they
Speaker 2: both squat down and they're both watching and they're listening
Speaker 2: from what they said, because they both they're both next
Speaker 2: to each other, Okay, but their perspectives are totally different
Speaker 2: because Casey's a little more freaked out than Brian, and
Speaker 2: Brian's trying to keep level headed. And I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to cast dispersions on Casey. This is his words. He
Speaker 2: was more freaked out. He wasn't as a tune to
Speaker 2: every fine night, every little noise. He was just hearing
Speaker 2: everything in general, because he was like, could hear his
Speaker 2: heart beating his ears Right from what Brian was saying,
Speaker 2: you could feel there's something very heavy moving from that
Speaker 2: movement that was behind them towards a plane, and that
Speaker 2: was moving towards the crashing away from them.
Speaker 3: He said, they stayed there quiet for a minute.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden it was like just loud, and
Speaker 2: as soon as it was almost even with them in
Speaker 2: just a little bit past them, going away from the
Speaker 2: direction of the plane, everything goes dead quiet. No sooner,
Speaker 2: it's dead quiet. Let's get moving. As soon as they say,
Speaker 2: let's get moving, and they turned their attention to start
Speaker 2: moving again, another scream happened the same direction that the
Speaker 2: sound stopped from the second one they heard that was
Speaker 2: initially behind them. So this scream happens, and this scream
Speaker 2: was super high pitched. He said. It wasn't the guttural.
Speaker 2: It was piercing. It was real sharp, and it made
Speaker 2: them both just want to cover their ears. It was
Speaker 2: hard to do holding the gun, and they basically turned
Speaker 2: their heads and put in one hand over their ears.
Speaker 2: And he said it carried on and on. It had
Speaker 2: to have been over twenty seconds. He said, it was
Speaker 2: the craziest, loudest, most piercing sound, but it was a scream,
Speaker 2: and it was almost like a whistle at the same time.
Speaker 2: That came to an abrupt end, and their ears are
Speaker 2: ringing from that far worse, he said, than what they
Speaker 2: were from the gunshots and in the cold and crisp
Speaker 2: aar when you shoot a gun, trust me being if
Speaker 2: you ain't got air protection, and it's snappy, it's real crisp.
Speaker 2: So they start moving again because whatever the hell is
Speaker 2: going on there, they want nothing to do with it.
Speaker 2: They can get the hell out of there. They start going,
Speaker 2: they're reloading everything. But what they agreed to as they
Speaker 2: were walking is Brian told Casey, hey, let's not focus
Speaker 2: on that. We got some distance between the tree line.
Speaker 2: Let's make tracks and then look, let's not constantly try
Speaker 2: to keep our attention there, and let's focus more on
Speaker 2: getting away from here. Right, Hey, great, let's do it.
Speaker 2: They get into that, They get this little rhythm going
Speaker 2: and they roughly about at this point less than one
Speaker 2: hundred yards from the plane. They've come away from the
Speaker 2: tree line more heading out to where the plane is parked.
Speaker 2: Brian is telling Casey, I'll do the pre flight. You
Speaker 2: just get in the backseat or whatever. I'll jump in
Speaker 2: the front, I'll fire up, I'll do pre flight and
Speaker 2: all that, and we'll get out of here. You just
Speaker 2: keep an eye out. So they got to little game
Speaker 2: plan on what they're going to do when they get
Speaker 2: to the plane. Now, he said, they were just at
Speaker 2: the point to where they're going to follow their tracks, okay,
Speaker 2: because their tracks came a curve to the tree line.
Speaker 2: They reached a point where they're going to follow the
Speaker 2: curve tracks back out to where the plane is parked.
Speaker 2: Brian said, when they got to that point, all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, there's this noise. And he said he still
Speaker 2: can't places he's never heard it before or since, but
Speaker 2: it was like a bellowing, wallowing, like pig grunt squeal.
Speaker 2: It was this weird noise, right, and it was all
Speaker 2: in of its own sound. He was trying to pull
Speaker 2: from here and there to explain what it sounded like,
Speaker 2: but it was just its own unique sound.
Speaker 3: Very short, very crisp, got their attention.
Speaker 2: They turn around and at the tree line, which at
Speaker 2: this point is about sixty yards from them roughly, they're
Speaker 2: looking and in between these spruce trees, there's some alders
Speaker 2: and stuff, and there's a couple of smaller aspen and
Speaker 2: some poppers and whatnot. This thing is this walking and
Speaker 2: it's looking right at them, but it's behind the trees
Speaker 2: and as it's walking, it's looking right over at them,
Speaker 2: and it doesn't care what's in front of it. It's
Speaker 2: almost like it knows there's nothing in front of it,
Speaker 2: but the way it's walking, they can't tell because they're
Speaker 2: focused on it looking at them, and it's moving. They
Speaker 2: both lift their guns. Casey he's more jumpy at this
Speaker 2: point than Brian is, because he stated himself he just
Speaker 2: could not handle what he was seeing.
Speaker 3: It wasn't making any sense. They said.
Speaker 2: It was really hard to make out any real facial
Speaker 2: features from that point because it was in the tree line.
Speaker 2: It was a bit silhouetted. It was just dark features, right,
Speaker 2: real dark features. But Casey said he wanted that thing
Speaker 2: away from him, and he shot again with this little
Speaker 2: survival rifle of twenty two four to ten, shot both
Speaker 2: barrels and went and reloaded, and Brian john hey, WHOA,
Speaker 2: this thing didn't flinch from those shots. It just kept
Speaker 2: moving and it actually started getting a little faster and
Speaker 2: a little faster, and it's moved down the tree line,
Speaker 2: so it's going away, and Brian's like, come on, we
Speaker 2: gotta go. We gotta get moving towards the plane. Now,
Speaker 2: get moving towards the plane. At this point, Brian has
Speaker 2: out about two or three more shells he's holding on
Speaker 2: to so he could fire, break it open, pop one in,
Speaker 2: shut it, fire again. He's ready to reload as fast
Speaker 2: as he could. He's backing up his snowshoe. Finally has
Speaker 2: it and it falls off completely. And he wasn't messing
Speaker 2: with it right. He was this peg leg and just
Speaker 2: kind of like a whole punch just punching through every
Speaker 2: couple steps, punched through, but he was keeping everything together
Speaker 2: in his own mind. This movement from the one that
Speaker 2: they looked at in case he had, for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: shot at it. Obviously didn't hit it. It was unfazed
Speaker 2: by that particular portion of what happened. Brian could no
Speaker 2: longer see it because when he said, when it was
Speaker 2: moving and looking at them, it had the feeling, the
Speaker 2: energy felt like it didn't give a flying rats ass
Speaker 2: if they saw it or not. Its whole thing was
Speaker 2: like a dominance, like an air again, like you're nothing
Speaker 2: feel So he's doing his best to backtrack. At this point,
Speaker 2: Casey had gotten into the Piper Cub and saw that
Speaker 2: Brian had totally lost his one snowshoe, so he starts
Speaker 2: doing pre flight and he's yelling at Brian, I'm doing
Speaker 2: pre flat, I'm doing pre flight this night. He's going
Speaker 2: through what he has to go through because if the
Speaker 2: plane's been sitting there about an hour, it's cooled off,
Speaker 2: it's not totally cold. So Casey's trying to do pre
Speaker 2: flight and Brian's backing up still. Brian said he was
Speaker 2: only about not even twenty yards mere feet from the plane,
Speaker 2: and he gets this overwhelming feeling of being sick and
Speaker 2: he has to stop and he starts puking, and he says,
Speaker 2: initially he thought it was because of the shock, the
Speaker 2: reality of what was happening. He had just caught up to
Speaker 2: him and he started puking, and he's down on one knee,
Speaker 2: and he's got the rifle, the single shot twelve gage
Speaker 2: and using it as a brace to brace himself up
Speaker 2: as he's vomiting. And then he stops and he was
Speaker 2: trying to catch his breath and he's spitting and whatnot,
Speaker 2: getting the naicteness out of his mouth. And he looks
Speaker 2: back and the one that was moving, there's still no
Speaker 2: sign of that one, but the back a little further
Speaker 2: away from them up that tree line. He saw this
Speaker 2: thing standing there, and he said, the one standing like
Speaker 2: three times a distance from the one that was closer
Speaker 2: to them had to be twice the size of the
Speaker 2: one three times closer. It was like it was a
Speaker 2: market difference. He said, it was so much larger than
Speaker 2: the one they just saw that Casey had shot at
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, and he said he was in shock.
Speaker 2: But he said he noticed it was his body was oh,
Speaker 2: making this weird noise. And he said that noise which
Speaker 2: he could barely hear it, he was feeling it, and
Speaker 2: it was making his guts contracted. That's what was making
Speaker 2: a vomit. That's his perception. That's what he felt and
Speaker 2: what he saw. Again, I wasn't there. I'm just going
Speaker 2: by what Brian told me. And so it made him
Speaker 2: start puking again. And when he starts puking this time
Speaker 2: like trying not to puck all over himself, but at
Speaker 2: the same time he doesn't give a shit. And also
Speaker 2: he's trying to keep focus on this big one. And
Speaker 2: as he starts puking for the second time, and he's
Speaker 2: trying to focus on both things and all this, he
Speaker 2: notices that it starts coming towards him, and he said,
Speaker 2: when he says it's coming towards me, he said it was.
Speaker 2: He noticed the snow flying and this thing was making tracks,
Speaker 2: coming like a linebacker, just coming at him. And immediately
Speaker 2: he was in the middle of heaving, and he just
Speaker 2: raised a shotgun pointed in that direction. Boom, cracked the
Speaker 2: barrel open, let the empty shell spit out, popped in.
Speaker 2: Another one clicked it up. And at this point, after
Speaker 2: the first shot, there was a bunch of snow in
Speaker 2: the air, but he couldn't see through it. It was like
Speaker 2: a snow screen. And then he heard crash, thrash, banks,
Speaker 2: and so he sat there a second started vomiting again.
Speaker 2: It was like an uncontrollable thing at that point, but
Speaker 2: he was still trying to focus on where he had
Speaker 2: just shot and where this thing in general was. The
Speaker 2: there's no screen that kicked up from this thing moving
Speaker 2: towards him, settled down and it was still standing there,
Speaker 2: looking really upset. The crashing and banging was the other
Speaker 2: one came running along inside the tree line that he
Speaker 2: didn't even notice up near it, the smaller one. The
Speaker 2: crashing and banging it was hearing was he couldn't tell
Speaker 2: what it was doing because it was kicking up snow
Speaker 2: at the same time.
Speaker 3: But it was like like not jumping from tree to tree.
Speaker 2: It wasn't in the trees, but it was jumping from
Speaker 2: one tree breaking a branch, jumping into another one breaking
Speaker 2: a branch.
Speaker 3: It was like bouncing around within the trees.
Speaker 2: Is tearing shit up, basically, and then starts this high
Speaker 2: pitched scream again. And then that's when the bigger one
Speaker 2: turned and then goes past it into the trees. And
Speaker 2: then Brian said, at that point and he turned around,
Speaker 2: he felt confident enough because at this point, Casey's screaming,
Speaker 2: get over here, and so he makes it to the plane.
Speaker 2: He kicks the one snowshoe off, leaves it there, doesn't
Speaker 2: give a shit, gets in there, hands the twelve, gags
Speaker 2: to Casey's sitting in the back, jumps and fires up.
Speaker 2: Both doors are open because you've got an upper door
Speaker 2: and the lower door on the piper cover. Casey telling
Speaker 2: him everything about the pre check and pre flight and
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: He's just letting the engine warm up, right.
Speaker 2: Brian's focusing on the temperature gage and that type of
Speaker 2: thing and looking out. By this point, the wind it changed,
Speaker 2: so they got to win at their tail. They got
Speaker 2: a taxi down a ways. Once it gets up to
Speaker 2: running temperature, they got a taxi down, turn into the
Speaker 2: wind and then take off. And so it gets to
Speaker 2: a warm enough where Brian's okay with the templates at
Speaker 2: to get out of there. So he starts taxing down.
Speaker 2: The doors are open, okay, Casey's got the twelve gates
Speaker 2: pointing out the doors. Brian's telling them on comms, don't
Speaker 2: shoot the strut because the piper cup it's got the
Speaker 2: two struts for the wings. He just said, don't shoot
Speaker 2: the strut. We don't want to be stuck here. Don't
Speaker 2: shoot the strut. Cases, I'm not going to shoot the strut.
Speaker 2: They taxi down, and when he turns and he's powering
Speaker 2: up for takeoff, throw on skis and stuff.
Speaker 3: Right, so it's taking momentum to get to friction and
Speaker 3: all that.
Speaker 2: Kind of stuff. Right, he's getting up to speed, and
Speaker 2: just as he lifts off and he's starting to gain altitude,
Speaker 2: that's when Casey starts yelling over the comps again and
Speaker 2: Brian shuts the door. Casey's screaming over the comps. It's
Speaker 2: out in the open. It's out in the open. Brian
Speaker 2: didn't carry He's in the air. We're safe, right, that's
Speaker 2: his only give a shit. So he gains some altitude
Speaker 2: and once he gains altitude, he circles back and comes back.
Speaker 2: As he was doing his thing to gain altitude and
Speaker 2: all that, Casey was saying somebody wasn't paying attention because
Speaker 2: he was just in shock. Gets turned around and then
Speaker 2: Casey says again, did you hear what I said? And
Speaker 2: he goes no, no, man, I'm freaking out. Give me
Speaker 2: a second. Case He goes, no, it came to where
Speaker 2: we were just parked, and it has your snowshoe and
Speaker 2: it went back into the trees. What are you doing there?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it clicks shitt from scared pilots
Speaker 2: or whoever else comes to that. I don't know. They
Speaker 2: didn't want to share the exact particular valley. They just
Speaker 2: said leave it at check yak range and go look
Speaker 2: at the map check gack ranges. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: valleys in there. Hey, you want to go look and
Speaker 2: go look. But I want to thank Brian and Casey
Speaker 2: for sharing that. It actually it split their friendship for
Speaker 2: this twenty years ago. It split their friendship for a while.
Speaker 2: Brian saw the channel and watched a few of the
Speaker 2: videos and realized, Oh, they're talking about real stuff. It's
Speaker 2: not just a bunch of AI garbage or whatever. But
Speaker 2: he reconnected with Casey. Is this a good thing? They
Speaker 2: were able to come back together as buddies, not have
Speaker 2: that experience be a separator, a divider between them anymore
Speaker 2: because it had been for a while. Because every time
Speaker 2: they see each other it was stressful because they would
Speaker 2: relive what they went through. I want to thank them sincerely.
Speaker 2: What I wanted to share with you today happened to
Speaker 2: a cyclist approximately fifteen years ago. There's this bicycle group
Speaker 2: that likes to pedal across the state. So they'll start
Speaker 2: down in Homer. I think it is something like that,
Speaker 2: and then bike all the way up pass Fairbanks on
Speaker 2: the road system up here. I don't know if they
Speaker 2: still do it. Used to see blips about it. Used
Speaker 2: to see some of the riders every once in a
Speaker 2: while on the side of the road. A commitment to cycling,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. It's a long drive, let alone pedaling
Speaker 2: a bike. Chad he doesn't live in Alaska. He would
Speaker 2: only come up for this bicycle excursion. A lot of
Speaker 2: these guys will tow a little pole behind thing like
Speaker 2: you would for your kids, but it'd had their camping
Speaker 2: gear and stuff and whatnot. He had been doing it
Speaker 2: for a number of years before this incident. And he
Speaker 2: was north of Trappers Creek. He was in a group
Speaker 2: of three cyclists, and the other two he was with
Speaker 2: continued on land of the midnight sun. He decided he
Speaker 2: saw a little spot he was going to get off
Speaker 2: the road, take a break and get some sleep. He
Speaker 2: had just been run ragged. So as he's ungearing and
Speaker 2: getting all his stuff out, he picks a spot off
Speaker 2: the side of the road with a small clearing, probably
Speaker 2: similar to one. And I'm sitting in right now, and
Speaker 2: stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be
Speaker 2: right back after these messages. And he had a hammock tent,
Speaker 2: and so as he's stringamed up the hammock tent, he
Speaker 2: hears movement off to the side, And as he hears
Speaker 2: this movement, movement kind of semicircle around him, he gets
Speaker 2: real paranoid, gets not so fresh feeling. I'm not so
Speaker 2: joyous and peaceful as he's doing that, these sense in
Speaker 2: this movement, hearing it. For the life of him, he's
Speaker 2: trying to figure out is one of these guys come
Speaker 2: back just to mess with me or something along those lines.
Speaker 2: It wasn't, he continues. He had these small ratchet straps
Speaker 2: he was using for his to wrap around trees to
Speaker 2: hang his little hammock tent from, and he was adjusting
Speaker 2: one of them, and he was looking past the tree
Speaker 2: because something caught his eye. Now, as he's at the
Speaker 2: tree looking at this thing that caught his eye, he
Speaker 2: hears a branch snap behind him. As he turns around,
Speaker 2: half expecting another cyclist that he had been talking to
Speaker 2: on the ride to be standing there, there was no
Speaker 2: one there, so immediately he's on edge. He has no firearm,
Speaker 2: he has some bear spray, so he goes all the
Speaker 2: way back up to the road. He said approximately seventy
Speaker 2: five yards off the road, so he didn't hear as
Speaker 2: much of the road noise. So as he gets back
Speaker 2: over to his little container he was dragging along behind
Speaker 2: his bike to get his bear spray out. He turns
Speaker 2: around from grabbing it and a couple other little odds
Speaker 2: and ends, and he's walking back the same trail. As
Speaker 2: he comes up, he notices one half of his hammock tent,
Speaker 2: the ratchet strap was torn, like ripped, not just undone,
Speaker 2: it was tattered, ripped. And those things are nylon. But
Speaker 2: that takes a lot of brute force just to rip
Speaker 2: that shit off of there. You'd need a lot of
Speaker 2: strength to do that. Go get a ratget strap and
Speaker 2: just yank on nap. See where you get. So he's
Speaker 2: trying to figure out what the hell and it's not
Speaker 2: adding up. There was movement, there's sound, and he noticed
Speaker 2: movement going on. He wasn't putting it all together rightfully.
Speaker 2: He was confused, what the hell is going on here?
Speaker 2: What's really happening? And as he's zig zagging through the
Speaker 2: trees around trying to see if he sees any sign
Speaker 2: of anyone who may have been messing with this shit,
Speaker 2: maybe someone cut it something along those lines that he
Speaker 2: wasn't too sure. He makes a complete circle around this
Speaker 2: clearing area and as he comes back around, as he
Speaker 2: comes back around to where his half his hammock is
Speaker 2: hanging because the one half was torn, he gets an
Speaker 2: overwhelming sense of dread. Like fear he's never had before
Speaker 2: in his life. And he's trying to figure out why
Speaker 2: am I so scared? He's done this trip many times,
Speaker 2: he's camped in more remote places than off the side
Speaker 2: of the road, So he's trying to figure out why
Speaker 2: am I so scared. As he's deciding what he's going
Speaker 2: to do, there's more movement that catches his eye, and
Speaker 2: so he pays more attention in these looking through the
Speaker 2: break in the trees and watching this movement. And he said,
Speaker 2: at first he thought it was a guy in a
Speaker 2: gilly suit, a hunter or something. Maybe he came across
Speaker 2: someone's hunting area and they didn't like it too much,
Speaker 2: so they were going to run him off. And so
Speaker 2: he yells out, hey, hey, over here, did you tear
Speaker 2: my shit half? Accusing this person of destroying his stuff?
Speaker 2: Who else was around? And so after he yells a
Speaker 2: couple times, there was no response. Everything just went dead quiet.
Speaker 2: He said he didn't even hear the bugs, which that's
Speaker 2: a nerving shit, trust me, he don't want to be
Speaker 2: out in the middle of nowhere. And it goes dead
Speaker 2: quiet for a multitude of reasons. Bear Harryman, whatever it's
Speaker 2: not a good environment. So as he's contemplating what he's
Speaker 2: going to do, he's gathering a shit back up. He's
Speaker 2: just going to pedal on, is what he decided, and
Speaker 2: so he has his bear spray on his hip. He's
Speaker 2: gathering up his stuff. He hadn't packed a whole lot there,
Speaker 2: and so as he's getting the last bits of it,
Speaker 2: he starts hiking it back out. He had a couple
Speaker 2: like one more trip to grab the rest of it.
Speaker 2: But as he was hiking out to load his shit up,
Speaker 2: he gets to his little buggy. He commences to fiddle
Speaker 2: with things in there and readjust some things. Once he
Speaker 2: got out of the trees, he didn't have that overwhelming
Speaker 2: sense of fear. However, he did have an overwhelming sense
Speaker 2: of being watched. So when he turns back around to
Speaker 2: go get the last of his stuff, he noticed his
Speaker 2: movement off in the trees, just cut behind some trees
Speaker 2: just out of you, but not enough to just the movement.
Speaker 2: He couldn't make anything out. So he's sitting there perplexed
Speaker 2: on what to do because it's in the same direction
Speaker 2: he has to go to get the rest of his stuff.
Speaker 2: So he gets off his bear spray he's holding it
Speaker 2: in his hand and he walks in. Now he's dead
Speaker 2: dog tired. He's been peddling a bike for miles and miles.
Speaker 2: He does not want to be doing this. So as
Speaker 2: he gets back in there, he notices his stuff is
Speaker 2: not where it was. He had his hammock tent coiled
Speaker 2: up in a ball with the ropes wrapped around it,
Speaker 2: and he couldn't he's looking around for it. He finds
Speaker 2: his little water jug and the little day pack thing
Speaker 2: that he gathered those up, and he's looking around and
Speaker 2: he hears something off in the distance, and he looks
Speaker 2: in that direction and up in a tree. And now
Speaker 2: this is not the first time we've heard of this,
Speaker 2: but up in a tree, his little bundled pack was
Speaker 2: up in some branches, way up. He said it was
Speaker 2: thirty foot plus where the single was up in the trees.
Speaker 2: And for the life of him, he could not figure
Speaker 2: out how in the hell his shit one got torn
Speaker 2: and then to be put up in a tree where
Speaker 2: who's going to get it up there? He didn't climb
Speaker 2: up to get it. So he immediately decides time to
Speaker 2: gets go. Time I'm not sticking here. This is some
Speaker 2: crazy shit he felt like he was in the twilight zone.
Speaker 2: Nothing was making any sense whatsoever. So as he is
Speaker 2: making his way out, he keeps hearing this grunt sound,
Speaker 2: and he said it sounded just like a bear grunt.
Speaker 2: So he turns around, half expecting to have to spray
Speaker 2: a bear. And his mind's really racing because he's got
Speaker 2: this thing, this figure in the distance. His shit's missing
Speaker 2: up in a tree, and now this bear grunt, so
Speaker 2: it's a whole multitude of just different shit going on
Speaker 2: in his head. He clears the tree line and as
Speaker 2: soon as he clears the tree line, just to his
Speaker 2: right hand side, a tree gets knocked down in front
Speaker 2: of him at an angle. If he had kept walking
Speaker 2: instead of stopping, the tree may have actually hit him.
Speaker 3: It was a light birch crack. He heard it snap,
Speaker 3: he heard it break.
Speaker 2: It was about eight inch diameter, and he looks over
Speaker 2: in the direction and he sees this thing standing there,
Speaker 2: just looking at him, And as soon as they make
Speaker 2: eye contact, he said, it was really black in the face.
Speaker 2: It was silhouetted, so all he could see was a
Speaker 2: little gleam in the eye, kind of the light reflecting
Speaker 2: off the eye, not in a luminescent type thing. It
Speaker 2: just eyeshine, not within the sense of a flashlight shine,
Speaker 2: but just life in the eyes. And he yells, hey, dude,
Speaker 2: this thing just walks in the tree line, but coming
Speaker 2: in his direction. Now he's only about five ten feet
Speaker 2: out of the tree line. And up here on along
Speaker 2: the sides of the roads, you'll have the road drop
Speaker 2: off into a ditch typically, and then it'll bank up
Speaker 2: and then the trees will start. In this particular area,
Speaker 2: it was flat across, so he's literally on the same
Speaker 2: flat ground. This thing is walking along and as soon
Speaker 2: as he gets parallel with him in the tree line,
Speaker 2: it screams at him. And he's stuck. He's holding this
Speaker 2: bear spray, stuck. He doesn't know what the hell to
Speaker 2: do because none of this is making sense to him.
Speaker 2: And as he turns and he's pointing the bear spray
Speaker 2: at this thing, it just walks backwards, looking right at him,
Speaker 2: but smoothly walks backwards and then gets in a little
Speaker 2: ways and then steps out of you. Now he's really stuck.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know what to do with this. As a
Speaker 2: matter of fact, when he was sharing it with me,
Speaker 2: he was just questioning me why did they do that?
Speaker 2: Why this? And I was like, dude, hey, guests as
Speaker 2: good as mine. But for whatever reason, as it stepped
Speaker 2: out of you, he said, the scream was still ringing
Speaker 2: in his ears. Before he knew it. He was on
Speaker 2: his bike pedaling. He must have been about two three
Speaker 2: miles from that particular spot when he came across another
Speaker 2: cyclist that was packing up his camping shit because he
Speaker 2: heard the scream from a couple miles away. This dude,
Speaker 2: another bicyclist, heard that scream and gathered up his shit
Speaker 2: and decided he was going to pedal on too. There's
Speaker 2: a series of canyons and fjord like areas along some
Speaker 2: of these rivers just up north of here, very beautiful
Speaker 2: treacherous grounds though, so as he catches up to the
Speaker 2: other guy coming up, he stops and says, tells him
Speaker 2: what happened. And the guy was like, I heard that scream.
Speaker 2: I'm packing up, I'm leaving. The other bicyclist had a gun.
Speaker 2: The bicyclist with the gun was carrying it in his hand.
Speaker 2: He was like, hey, just put that away. It's back there.
Speaker 2: It could have attacked me. It didn't. That kind of
Speaker 2: thing guys, I don't give a shit if it didn't
Speaker 2: attack you. That sounds humongous, and I don't know what
Speaker 2: it is. And he tries to explain to him, I
Speaker 2: saw it whatever you basically describing the sasquatch to him,
Speaker 2: and the guy kind of chuckles and puts his gun away.
Speaker 2: This guy just heard the same screen enough to cause
Speaker 2: him to pack up to freaking leave. But he's gonna
Speaker 2: mock the guy who came from that traction and told
Speaker 2: him what it was. I whatever, I don't get that,
Speaker 2: but he continued, He peddled on, no further instance or
Speaker 2: anything like that. But this poor guy was just out
Speaker 2: pedaling his bike doing something he's done a million times.
Speaker 2: And there's it seems to be a running theme with that.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people who have been out here
Speaker 2: for many years, never had a single problem, not a
Speaker 2: single instance of anything, to all of a sudden have
Speaker 2: that shit shattered in a heartbeat. It's unfortunate. There's no
Speaker 2: definites none. I rack my brain every day on something definitive,
Speaker 2: something concrete, but it varies so much. There's nothing really tangible.
Speaker 2: Yet again, the excursion I'm getting ready to go on,
Speaker 2: we're gonna drift this to sit in a river. There
Speaker 2: was some recent activity there. We were paste out of
Speaker 2: one spot. We're gonna go back film this time. The
Speaker 2: first time I went, I didn't have permission to film,
Speaker 2: so I didn't bring anything with me other than protection.
Speaker 2: And then we had some bullshit happen and we got
Speaker 2: paste out from the spot where he was showing me
Speaker 2: the encounter, so I guess spot of two encounters. We
Speaker 2: didn't have a visual, but it was definitely making noise
Speaker 2: and stomping around. Squash Paint didn't like that. He really
Speaker 2: didn't like that. I'll be getting back to you guys soon,
Speaker 2: getting ready to take off into the wild until the
Speaker 2: next one. I can't, I can't, I can't