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<v Speaker 1>Now one of your pudding. I got a string going

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<v Speaker 1>on here, something just cause my dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Something killed your dog, my dog.

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<v Speaker 1>We're flying through the or over the tree. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm really confused.

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<v Speaker 1>All I saw was my dog coming over the fence

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<v Speaker 1>and he was dead. And once you hit the ground like,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see any cars. All I saw was my

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<v Speaker 1>dog coming over the fence. Happen? What are you putting?

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<v Speaker 1>We got some wonder or something prowling around out here?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>Or was it was?

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<v Speaker 1>Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Quice you better New York. Hello, get somebody out here.

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<v Speaker 1>What quent on out there? I thought of a bit

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<v Speaker 1>just about picking what nine? I don't know? Easy out there? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm right heady.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hey, greetings, his friend Alaska. Thanks for joining me

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<v Speaker 2>today in a lot of work, getting caught up in

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<v Speaker 2>the background with a lot of things, reconnecting with people.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to start off by saying it's really important

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<v Speaker 2>I've shared before, but love your people, whether it be

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<v Speaker 2>a wife of almost twenty years, or your kids that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't see that often. Your people. You could pick

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<v Speaker 2>your friends, you can't pick your family. But love your people. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>that's key because tomorrow and promised. This world is just crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>even outside of the crazy wilderness of Alaska and what

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<v Speaker 2>goes on around here. So what I wanted to share

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<v Speaker 2>with you today comes from Brian and Casey. Now, Brian

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<v Speaker 2>and Casey, they decided they were going to team up.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian has a pilot's license, Casey was gifted through his

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<v Speaker 2>dad a piper cup, and so they being buddies and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>they figured, hey, let's going together, get the plane back

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<v Speaker 2>up to running, basically partaking a partnership, flying out doing trapping,

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<v Speaker 2>and get the fur bearers and make some money. You

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<v Speaker 2>see what they could do about her. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>roughly twenty years ago. So we're going back to six

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<v Speaker 2>seven wintertime about this time of year because fur bearing

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<v Speaker 2>animals you get him in the wintertime because that's when

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<v Speaker 2>they're coachs, thickest and most lush. So Brian and Casey

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<v Speaker 2>they're going out into the Chugach Range.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't want the exact place because it varies. They'll

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<v Speaker 2>land in a spot they'll put us set out, they'll

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<v Speaker 2>line up a few different sets for pind Martin, Wolverine,

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<v Speaker 2>what have you. So they're bouncing around and doing their

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<v Speaker 2>thing well. As Brian was in the back seat and

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<v Speaker 2>Casey was flying this one particular trip, Casey was just

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<v Speaker 2>basically he didn't have as many flight hours as Brian,

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<v Speaker 2>so Casey was taking his time and kind of filling

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<v Speaker 2>out the plane and doing just little maneuvers. Nothing made.

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<v Speaker 2>And on one of his hard turns he was making

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<v Speaker 2>with enough altitude, of course, he was making this turn

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<v Speaker 2>to the right, and it just so happens that Brian

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<v Speaker 2>looks down and it's an open kind of area. There's

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<v Speaker 2>some open marsh areas in between the spruce trees and

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<v Speaker 2>the birch and the aspen, and as he's circling around

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<v Speaker 2>in this valley, Brian when he looks down, he notices

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<v Speaker 2>a tree he thought was a tree that looked out

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<v Speaker 2>of place. The coloring was different, and it just stood out.

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<v Speaker 2>It was damn near right in the middle of this meadow,

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<v Speaker 2>this open area, which initially from the air it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>look like a very large area, but once they came

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<v Speaker 2>down from altitude, it was obviously a lot wider open place.

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<v Speaker 2>So Brian gets Casey's attention, Hey, look there, Look at there.

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<v Speaker 2>Casey was just focusing on his maneuver and wasn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>paying attention to Brian because obviously his gauges and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't crashing, so he wasn't really paying attention to Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian gets his attention, and Casey sees what he sees,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they decide, hey, you know what we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do. Well, was it back around? We'll do the

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<v Speaker 2>figure eight turn, come back in low, and let's land.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian was initially with it, right, I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well land, We'll see what the heck is that because

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't moving. It was just out of place. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a brownish, reddish, rusty kind of color looking, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, must be a tree stump of some kind,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's so out of place. So they circle back around,

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<v Speaker 2>and as they're coming down and they're getting lined up

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<v Speaker 2>to land into the wind, they notice because they still

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<v Speaker 2>have some altitude at this point, a few hundred feet,

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<v Speaker 2>and this thing holds takes off from directly in front

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<v Speaker 2>of them, off to the right, hits the tree. Lin Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was fast. It startled Casey and so

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<v Speaker 2>he powers back up because he was just getting ready

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<v Speaker 2>to slip and slow down his air speed to get

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<v Speaker 2>ready for landing.

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<v Speaker 3>So powers back up. They circle around.

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<v Speaker 2>When they get back up to an altitude and circle back,

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<v Speaker 2>Brian's looking, He's got binoculars out, He's trying to really

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<v Speaker 2>look in case He's kind of shaken.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, what the hell was that? It ran so fast?

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<v Speaker 2>Couldn't really figure it out because it was gone, disappeared

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<v Speaker 2>in the trees. They didn't know what the hell to do,

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<v Speaker 2>so they just decided, you know what, screw this or

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<v Speaker 2>just carry on. They continue on to the next spot,

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<v Speaker 2>multiple miles away. When they get to the spot where

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<v Speaker 2>they had some sets, they land and they taxi to

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<v Speaker 2>where they want to take off from. They get out,

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<v Speaker 2>put on their snow shoes, and they just trek in

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<v Speaker 2>with a small caliber rifle. They get over to where

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<v Speaker 2>the sets start, each and every one, which they're decently

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<v Speaker 2>spread apart, but they were all in a line across

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<v Speaker 2>this tree line running along one side of this valley.

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<v Speaker 2>Each and every one of the sets looked like it

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<v Speaker 2>was either tripped or if there had been something in

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<v Speaker 2>it there's only a little bit of fur left in

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<v Speaker 2>the trap, or the trap was just missing, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, what the hell. It's taken them a while,

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<v Speaker 2>because again they're in snowshoes. It's deep snow. It's twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. We're still getting really decent snowfalls. We still do,

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<v Speaker 2>unless they're playing with heart, but anyway, regardless, So as

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<v Speaker 2>they're walking the tree line, Casey has a survival rifle,

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<v Speaker 2>which is like a four to ten twenty two combo

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<v Speaker 2>single shot of each Brian happens to have a twelve

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<v Speaker 2>gage marine style breakopen single shot. Brian always brings slugs

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<v Speaker 2>in bird shot and that type of thing, right, so

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<v Speaker 2>he has a different kind of variety of slugs what

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<v Speaker 2>have you in his pouch. And they're walking along and

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<v Speaker 2>since they landed, it's been about forty five minutes, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Because they're stopping, they're looking at each and every individual

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<v Speaker 2>whether the trap was sprung and nothing was there, or

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<v Speaker 2>is just outright missing. They're trying to piece together what

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<v Speaker 2>the hell's going on? Does someone else fly in? Is

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<v Speaker 2>someone stealing our traps? They're brainstorming back and forth. They

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<v Speaker 2>get almost to the end of this particular line as

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<v Speaker 2>they're getting close to the end of it. They had

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<v Speaker 2>a set for a wolverine, right, and they go over

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<v Speaker 2>and they could see some fur from the trap and whatnot, so, oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we have something, right. So Casey, being in the lead

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<v Speaker 2>by just a couple of paces, chomps over there in

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<v Speaker 2>the snow shoes. When he gets over there, he immediately

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<v Speaker 2>stops and he's reaching out with the barrel of this

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<v Speaker 2>survival rifle poking at it. All it turned out to

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<v Speaker 2>be was this tuft of hair, but it was sticking

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<v Speaker 2>out of the snow. From the distance they were initially at,

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<v Speaker 2>it gave the illusion that there was something trapped there,

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<v Speaker 2>and so when Brian comes up beside him, he's what

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<v Speaker 2>the hell, and so he goes over and he figured

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<v Speaker 2>it was deadlking off of a pine tree or or

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<v Speaker 2>a spruce chair or whatever, because he can get black

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<v Speaker 2>and look like an old man's beard or whatever. So

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<v Speaker 2>he goes over here. It takes a look and it's

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<v Speaker 2>this weird hair and it has a weird smell to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like for the amount of hair, it wasn't a whole lot,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was enough, and the smell on the hair

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<v Speaker 2>was punging. And so as they're discussing, what the hell

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have skunks up here, and it smells like

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<v Speaker 2>like a body odor urine kind of smell in the distance,

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<v Speaker 2>same direction. They'd been walking towards the end of that

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<v Speaker 2>far into that valley, the planes like behind them. They

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<v Speaker 2>got multiple hundreds of yards to get back to where

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<v Speaker 2>the plane is set up for takeoff. Right his way

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<v Speaker 2>back there, it's sitting there, they hear this scream right

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<v Speaker 2>and from what Casey said, the scream shook everything inside him,

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<v Speaker 2>not just physically but metaphorically, like his whole well being

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<v Speaker 2>was shattered. He said that one scream just took all

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<v Speaker 2>the fight out of him. He immediately he dropped a

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<v Speaker 2>rifle out of his hand. He was down on his knees, shaking,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like trying to fight for words to say

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell is at Brian was like already sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there taking the bird shot out of that brake barrel,

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<v Speaker 2>single shot, twelve gage, and he's putting the slug in

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<v Speaker 2>and he's not looking at Casey. He's looking in the

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<v Speaker 2>direction right where the scream came from, because their guestimation

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<v Speaker 2>it was within a few hundred yards straight down the

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<v Speaker 2>tree line where it curves towards the back end of

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<v Speaker 2>this valley where they're checking their sets. Brian is sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there and he's talking to Casey. But Casey at this

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<v Speaker 2>time is not checked out, but he's just what the fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell is at He's having his own conversation

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<v Speaker 2>within himself and not hearing Brian, and Brian's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to him about, Hey, that was weird, and Brian's

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<v Speaker 2>asking him questions about what the hell could that be?

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<v Speaker 2>And this and that, and Casey's trying to pull himself

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<v Speaker 2>together because, like I said, Casey, it hit him hard,

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<v Speaker 2>really hard, to the core of his being. He was shook,

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<v Speaker 2>which I get, Hey, man, I'm not knocking the guy whatsoever. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard that scream. I felt that feeling. It's jarring

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<v Speaker 2>to the system. To say the least. He could really

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<v Speaker 2>take it out of you. So again, it just everyone

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<v Speaker 2>reacts differently in those circumstances. And even Casey was like,

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<v Speaker 2>when I asked him, how did it feel? And after

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<v Speaker 2>he initially told me that it took the fight right

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<v Speaker 2>out of him and it was like he was grasping

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<v Speaker 2>for understanding. He said that the feeling he got was

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<v Speaker 2>the one of being watched and despised. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>asked Brian, what'd you feel when you're standing there, and

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't communicating back, but you're talking, what were you feeling?

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<v Speaker 2>Because that's really important. I think everyone should know what

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<v Speaker 2>these people were feeling in those moments. In their words,

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<v Speaker 2>Brian felt the same way. He said he felt like

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<v Speaker 2>he was hated, like he was just despised beyond anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>So Casey pulls himself together enough to stand back up

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<v Speaker 2>on his feet. He grabs that survival rifle. They're like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get back towards the plane. They got a couple

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<v Speaker 2>hours before it's going to get dark, but again playing

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<v Speaker 2>his hundred yards the other direction, and they want to

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<v Speaker 2>clear some ground right because it's further to get to

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<v Speaker 2>the plane than it is from where that noise was.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're going right along the tree line. They're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to follow their tracks back. Since Casey was really having

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<v Speaker 2>a really hard go of it emotionally speaking, it just

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<v Speaker 2>hit him in his core like that. Brian said, you

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<v Speaker 2>get going, I'm going to be behind you. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to keep track. You just don't focus and zone me out.

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<v Speaker 2>If I yell and scream something. We pay attention and

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<v Speaker 2>answer me back or whatever. Don't get too far ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're doing that. Casey's going along Brian. They get

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<v Speaker 2>and so they got about one hundred and fifty yards

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<v Speaker 2>and then turned back, and as soon as he was

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<v Speaker 2>facing the opposite direction, that scream happened again. But it

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<v Speaker 2>was so much closer. He said, it felt like whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it was right off his shoulder. Freaked him out. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>he damner jumped out of his snowshoes. He stumbled, fell over,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's pointing the rifle back at the tree line

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<v Speaker 2>and again single shot twelve games. But he had something right,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's pointing back at the tree line, and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>he's so freaked out. He's trying to focus, but all

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<v Speaker 2>the trees and everything, it was very hard for him

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<v Speaker 2>Brian said. He worked his way up onto his knees

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<v Speaker 2>and then got up on he had lost one of

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<v Speaker 2>something had broke on one of them, or whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 2>already heard that too, and Casey wasn't all that far

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<v Speaker 2>still he was scanning the area too. So Casey backtracks

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<v Speaker 2>over to where Brian is there at the tree line

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<v Speaker 2>from where this second scream came from, and get his

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<v Speaker 2>foot into the snowshoe, because otherwise he can be sinking

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<v Speaker 2>down to almost his hip. You don't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>doing that, not in that situation. So from what Brian said,

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<v Speaker 2>as he's trying to focus on getting a snowshoe on,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, there's a period of time where he wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>Brian is sitting there. He's trying to stay.

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<v Speaker 2>Focused on these trees because the scream just came from

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<v Speaker 2>there and Casey had backtracked right, And again they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>fake time. So as Casey got closer, he finally got

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<v Speaker 2>Brian's attention because obviously he's freaking out. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>his attention says, hey, keep an eye, go and fix

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<v Speaker 2>your snowshoe with Let's get going. So Brian sets down

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<v Speaker 2>the shotgun and he's trying to fix this binding and

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<v Speaker 2>whatnot for a snowshoe. He said, when he knelt down

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<v Speaker 2>and he was just about getting it reclasped with whatever

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<v Speaker 2>guy right out of there. He said. As he was

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<v Speaker 2>working on that, he kept glancing up because out of

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<v Speaker 2>and he starts yelling out. He grabs up that single

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<v Speaker 2>shot shotgun and he points to that direction. He's yelling

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<v Speaker 2>at Casey hate over here in Casey's I see it,

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<v Speaker 2>I see it. I don't want to shoot. Brian understands.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian didn't want to shoot. He had twelve gage, far

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<v Speaker 2>better than the twenty two and the four to ten

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<v Speaker 2>combo that the Casey had. They're both just sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>saying what should we do? What should we do? So

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<v Speaker 2>what they end up doing because they still have a

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<v Speaker 2>few hundred yards to get back to the plane. Way down,

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<v Speaker 2>they see it, but it's not like they're just a

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<v Speaker 2>couple trots away from it. In Casey's let's just go together,

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<v Speaker 2>shoulder or shoulder, and just take our time and work

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<v Speaker 2>our way back. Their tracks walking down the tree line

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<v Speaker 2>were real close to the trees, but now they don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be so close to the trees, so they're

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<v Speaker 2>breaking trail again, and it's taking time. Obviously time is

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<v Speaker 2>of the essence. They don't want to be there any

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<v Speaker 2>longer than they have to be. So Brian is just

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<v Speaker 2>chatting with Casey. They're trying to have a normal everyday

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<v Speaker 2>conversation about the traps and the next place they stop,

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<v Speaker 2>and this and that. They're trying to take their mind

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<v Speaker 2>off of how panic they felt. He said, they made

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<v Speaker 2>it about another one hundred yards and they could hear

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<v Speaker 2>movement in the trees this whole time after he had

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<v Speaker 2>stopped to bend down to fix his binding and everything

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<v Speaker 2>on the shoe, and it still wasn't perfect, but he

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<v Speaker 2>was able to make do. And he wasn't trying to

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<v Speaker 2>stop and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be right back after these messages. So as they

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<v Speaker 2>just shouldered and shoulder and working their way backwards, which

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<v Speaker 2>time consuming deep Snow, it's not a simple thing. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not a simple process, he said. They got about another

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred yards and this guttural grunt, he said he

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<v Speaker 2>felt it through their whole bodies, and that stopped him

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<v Speaker 2>in their tracks. And they both just instinctively raised their

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<v Speaker 2>guns and they both fired at the same time. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't even a it was like an autopilot thing, like

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<v Speaker 2>an auto response. Wrong or indifferent is irrelevant. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>they felt in the moment, and that's what they did.

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<v Speaker 2>So they both fire off shots. The little survival rifle

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<v Speaker 2>fires a bit differently than the single shot twelve gage, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but they fire what they have b Bam, there's thrashing

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<v Speaker 2>and crashing, moving away. But when they're heard that behind

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<v Speaker 2>them towards the plane off in the tree line, they

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<v Speaker 2>heard something else crashing and brashing and moving, circling back around,

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<v Speaker 2>paralleling them coming back from the direction of the plane

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<v Speaker 2>inside the trees, coming back up this way in the

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<v Speaker 2>direction of the other noise was coming from right the

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<v Speaker 2>direction it was moving. Immediately, they're already shaking, fumbling, try

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<v Speaker 2>to reload their firearms and everything like that. So they

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<v Speaker 2>both squat down and they're both watching and they're listening

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<v Speaker 2>from what they said, because they both they're both next

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<v Speaker 2>to each other, Okay, but their perspectives are totally different

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<v Speaker 2>because Casey's a little more freaked out than Brian, and

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<v Speaker 2>Brian's trying to keep level headed. And I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 2>to cast dispersions on Casey. This is his words. He

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<v Speaker 2>was more freaked out. He wasn't as a tune to

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<v Speaker 2>every fine night, every little noise. He was just hearing

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<v Speaker 2>everything in general, because he was like, could hear his

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<v Speaker 2>heart beating his ears Right from what Brian was saying,

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<v Speaker 2>you could feel there's something very heavy moving from that

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<v Speaker 2>movement that was behind them towards a plane, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was moving towards the crashing away from them.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, they stayed there quiet for a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden it was like just loud, and

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as it was almost even with them in

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<v Speaker 2>just a little bit past them, going away from the

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<v Speaker 2>direction of the plane, everything goes dead quiet. No sooner,

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<v Speaker 2>it's dead quiet. Let's get moving. As soon as they say,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get moving, and they turned their attention to start

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<v Speaker 2>moving again, another scream happened the same direction that the

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<v Speaker 2>sound stopped from the second one they heard that was

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<v Speaker 2>initially behind them. So this scream happens, and this scream

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<v Speaker 2>was super high pitched. He said. It wasn't the guttural.

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<v Speaker 2>It was piercing. It was real sharp, and it made

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<v Speaker 2>them both just want to cover their ears. It was

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<v Speaker 2>hard to do holding the gun, and they basically turned

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<v Speaker 2>their heads and put in one hand over their ears.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said it carried on and on. It had

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<v Speaker 2>to have been over twenty seconds. He said, it was

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<v Speaker 2>the craziest, loudest, most piercing sound, but it was a scream,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was almost like a whistle at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>That came to an abrupt end, and their ears are

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<v Speaker 2>ringing from that far worse, he said, than what they

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<v Speaker 2>were from the gunshots and in the cold and crisp

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<v Speaker 2>aar when you shoot a gun, trust me being if

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<v Speaker 2>you ain't got air protection, and it's snappy, it's real crisp.

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<v Speaker 2>So they start moving again because whatever the hell is

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<v Speaker 2>going on there, they want nothing to do with it.

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<v Speaker 2>They can get the hell out of there. They start going,

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<v Speaker 2>they're reloading everything. But what they agreed to as they

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<v Speaker 2>were walking is Brian told Casey, hey, let's not focus

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<v Speaker 2>on that. We got some distance between the tree line.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's make tracks and then look, let's not constantly try

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<v Speaker 2>to keep our attention there, and let's focus more on

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<v Speaker 2>getting away from here. Right, Hey, great, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>They get into that, They get this little rhythm going

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<v Speaker 2>and they roughly about at this point less than one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred yards from the plane. They've come away from the

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<v Speaker 2>tree line more heading out to where the plane is parked.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian is telling Casey, I'll do the pre flight. You

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<v Speaker 2>just get in the backseat or whatever. I'll jump in

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<v Speaker 2>the front, I'll fire up, I'll do pre flight and

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<v Speaker 2>all that, and we'll get out of here. You just

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<v Speaker 2>keep an eye out. So they got to little game

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<v Speaker 2>plan on what they're going to do when they get

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<v Speaker 2>to the plane. Now, he said, they were just at

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<v Speaker 2>the point to where they're going to follow their tracks, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because their tracks came a curve to the tree line.

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<v Speaker 2>They reached a point where they're going to follow the

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<v Speaker 2>curve tracks back out to where the plane is parked.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian said, when they got to that point, all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, there's this noise. And he said he still

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<v Speaker 2>can't places he's never heard it before or since, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was like a bellowing, wallowing, like pig grunt squeal.

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<v Speaker 2>It was this weird noise, right, and it was all

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<v Speaker 2>in of its own sound. He was trying to pull

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<v Speaker 2>from here and there to explain what it sounded like,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was just its own unique sound.

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<v Speaker 3>Very short, very crisp, got their attention.

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<v Speaker 2>They turn around and at the tree line, which at

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<v Speaker 2>this point is about sixty yards from them roughly, they're

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<v Speaker 2>looking and in between these spruce trees, there's some alders

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff, and there's a couple of smaller aspen and

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<v Speaker 2>some poppers and whatnot. This thing is this walking and

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<v Speaker 2>it's looking right at them, but it's behind the trees

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<v Speaker 2>and as it's walking, it's looking right over at them,

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<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't care what's in front of it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like it knows there's nothing in front of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but the way it's walking, they can't tell because they're

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<v Speaker 2>focused on it looking at them, and it's moving. They

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<v Speaker 2>both lift their guns. Casey he's more jumpy at this

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<v Speaker 2>point than Brian is, because he stated himself he just

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<v Speaker 2>could not handle what he was seeing.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't making any sense. They said.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really hard to make out any real facial

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<v Speaker 2>features from that point because it was in the tree line.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a bit silhouetted. It was just dark features, right,

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<v Speaker 2>real dark features. But Casey said he wanted that thing

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<v Speaker 2>away from him, and he shot again with this little

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<v Speaker 2>survival rifle of twenty two four to ten, shot both

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<v Speaker 2>barrels and went and reloaded, and Brian john hey, WHOA,

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<v Speaker 2>this thing didn't flinch from those shots. It just kept

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<v Speaker 2>moving and it actually started getting a little faster and

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<v Speaker 2>a little faster, and it's moved down the tree line,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's going away, and Brian's like, come on, we

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<v Speaker 2>gotta go. We gotta get moving towards the plane. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>get moving towards the plane. At this point, Brian has

415
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<v Speaker 2>out about two or three more shells he's holding on

416
00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:13.799
<v Speaker 2>to so he could fire, break it open, pop one in,

417
00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:16.720
<v Speaker 2>shut it, fire again. He's ready to reload as fast

418
00:21:16.759 --> 00:21:20.759
<v Speaker 2>as he could. He's backing up his snowshoe. Finally has

419
00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:23.279
<v Speaker 2>it and it falls off completely. And he wasn't messing

420
00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:25.319
<v Speaker 2>with it right. He was this peg leg and just

421
00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:28.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of like a whole punch just punching through every

422
00:21:28.039 --> 00:21:31.240
<v Speaker 2>couple steps, punched through, but he was keeping everything together

423
00:21:31.279 --> 00:21:34.920
<v Speaker 2>in his own mind. This movement from the one that

424
00:21:34.960 --> 00:21:37.680
<v Speaker 2>they looked at in case he had, for whatever reason,

425
00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:40.920
<v Speaker 2>shot at it. Obviously didn't hit it. It was unfazed

426
00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:46.839
<v Speaker 2>by that particular portion of what happened. Brian could no

427
00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:49.200
<v Speaker 2>longer see it because when he said, when it was

428
00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:52.960
<v Speaker 2>moving and looking at them, it had the feeling, the

429
00:21:53.079 --> 00:21:55.240
<v Speaker 2>energy felt like it didn't give a flying rats ass

430
00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:58.480
<v Speaker 2>if they saw it or not. Its whole thing was

431
00:21:58.519 --> 00:22:01.759
<v Speaker 2>like a dominance, like an air again, like you're nothing

432
00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:05.960
<v Speaker 2>feel So he's doing his best to backtrack. At this point,

433
00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:09.240
<v Speaker 2>Casey had gotten into the Piper Cub and saw that

434
00:22:09.799 --> 00:22:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Brian had totally lost his one snowshoe, so he starts

435
00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:16.279
<v Speaker 2>doing pre flight and he's yelling at Brian, I'm doing

436
00:22:16.279 --> 00:22:18.680
<v Speaker 2>pre flat, I'm doing pre flight this night. He's going

437
00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:20.240
<v Speaker 2>through what he has to go through because if the

438
00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:22.880
<v Speaker 2>plane's been sitting there about an hour, it's cooled off,

439
00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:27.279
<v Speaker 2>it's not totally cold. So Casey's trying to do pre

440
00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:31.000
<v Speaker 2>flight and Brian's backing up still. Brian said he was

441
00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:34.880
<v Speaker 2>only about not even twenty yards mere feet from the plane,

442
00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:38.160
<v Speaker 2>and he gets this overwhelming feeling of being sick and

443
00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:41.000
<v Speaker 2>he has to stop and he starts puking, and he says,

444
00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:45.160
<v Speaker 2>initially he thought it was because of the shock, the

445
00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:47.240
<v Speaker 2>reality of what was happening. He had just caught up to

446
00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:50.480
<v Speaker 2>him and he started puking, and he's down on one knee,

447
00:22:50.519 --> 00:22:53.200
<v Speaker 2>and he's got the rifle, the single shot twelve gage

448
00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:55.319
<v Speaker 2>and using it as a brace to brace himself up

449
00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:58.880
<v Speaker 2>as he's vomiting. And then he stops and he was

450
00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:00.960
<v Speaker 2>trying to catch his breath and he's spitting and whatnot,

451
00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:03.000
<v Speaker 2>getting the naicteness out of his mouth. And he looks

452
00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:06.240
<v Speaker 2>back and the one that was moving, there's still no

453
00:23:06.279 --> 00:23:09.920
<v Speaker 2>sign of that one, but the back a little further

454
00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:13.480
<v Speaker 2>away from them up that tree line. He saw this

455
00:23:13.519 --> 00:23:17.559
<v Speaker 2>thing standing there, and he said, the one standing like

456
00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:20.480
<v Speaker 2>three times a distance from the one that was closer

457
00:23:20.519 --> 00:23:24.279
<v Speaker 2>to them had to be twice the size of the

458
00:23:24.279 --> 00:23:26.359
<v Speaker 2>one three times closer. It was like it was a

459
00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:29.279
<v Speaker 2>market difference. He said, it was so much larger than

460
00:23:29.319 --> 00:23:33.240
<v Speaker 2>the one they just saw that Casey had shot at

461
00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:35.240
<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason, and he said he was in shock.

462
00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:39.519
<v Speaker 2>But he said he noticed it was his body was oh,

463
00:23:39.759 --> 00:23:43.319
<v Speaker 2>making this weird noise. And he said that noise which

464
00:23:43.319 --> 00:23:46.079
<v Speaker 2>he could barely hear it, he was feeling it, and

465
00:23:46.119 --> 00:23:49.079
<v Speaker 2>it was making his guts contracted. That's what was making

466
00:23:49.079 --> 00:23:52.400
<v Speaker 2>a vomit. That's his perception. That's what he felt and

467
00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:54.880
<v Speaker 2>what he saw. Again, I wasn't there. I'm just going

468
00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:57.160
<v Speaker 2>by what Brian told me. And so it made him

469
00:23:57.160 --> 00:23:59.720
<v Speaker 2>start puking again. And when he starts puking this time

470
00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:02.680
<v Speaker 2>like trying not to puck all over himself, but at

471
00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:05.079
<v Speaker 2>the same time he doesn't give a shit. And also

472
00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:08.599
<v Speaker 2>he's trying to keep focus on this big one. And

473
00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:11.200
<v Speaker 2>as he starts puking for the second time, and he's

474
00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:13.680
<v Speaker 2>trying to focus on both things and all this, he

475
00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:17.240
<v Speaker 2>notices that it starts coming towards him, and he said,

476
00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:20.079
<v Speaker 2>when he says it's coming towards me, he said it was.

477
00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:24.640
<v Speaker 2>He noticed the snow flying and this thing was making tracks,

478
00:24:24.720 --> 00:24:28.480
<v Speaker 2>coming like a linebacker, just coming at him. And immediately

479
00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:31.039
<v Speaker 2>he was in the middle of heaving, and he just

480
00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:34.079
<v Speaker 2>raised a shotgun pointed in that direction. Boom, cracked the

481
00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:36.720
<v Speaker 2>barrel open, let the empty shell spit out, popped in.

482
00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:39.839
<v Speaker 2>Another one clicked it up. And at this point, after

483
00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:42.400
<v Speaker 2>the first shot, there was a bunch of snow in

484
00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:44.279
<v Speaker 2>the air, but he couldn't see through it. It was like

485
00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:46.720
<v Speaker 2>a snow screen. And then he heard crash, thrash, banks,

486
00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:50.519
<v Speaker 2>and so he sat there a second started vomiting again.

487
00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:53.799
<v Speaker 2>It was like an uncontrollable thing at that point, but

488
00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:55.839
<v Speaker 2>he was still trying to focus on where he had

489
00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:59.799
<v Speaker 2>just shot and where this thing in general was. The

490
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:02.079
<v Speaker 2>there's no screen that kicked up from this thing moving

491
00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:05.640
<v Speaker 2>towards him, settled down and it was still standing there,

492
00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:09.720
<v Speaker 2>looking really upset. The crashing and banging was the other

493
00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:12.480
<v Speaker 2>one came running along inside the tree line that he

494
00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:16.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't even notice up near it, the smaller one. The

495
00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:20.160
<v Speaker 2>crashing and banging it was hearing was he couldn't tell

496
00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:21.559
<v Speaker 2>what it was doing because it was kicking up snow

497
00:25:21.559 --> 00:25:22.119
<v Speaker 2>at the same time.

498
00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:25.480
<v Speaker 3>But it was like like not jumping from tree to tree.

499
00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:27.240
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't in the trees, but it was jumping from

500
00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:30.359
<v Speaker 2>one tree breaking a branch, jumping into another one breaking

501
00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:30.759
<v Speaker 2>a branch.

502
00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:33.400
<v Speaker 3>It was like bouncing around within the trees.

503
00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:36.359
<v Speaker 2>Is tearing shit up, basically, and then starts this high

504
00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:39.519
<v Speaker 2>pitched scream again. And then that's when the bigger one

505
00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:44.079
<v Speaker 2>turned and then goes past it into the trees. And

506
00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:46.200
<v Speaker 2>then Brian said, at that point and he turned around,

507
00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:50.799
<v Speaker 2>he felt confident enough because at this point, Casey's screaming,

508
00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:53.200
<v Speaker 2>get over here, and so he makes it to the plane.

509
00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:55.720
<v Speaker 2>He kicks the one snowshoe off, leaves it there, doesn't

510
00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:58.200
<v Speaker 2>give a shit, gets in there, hands the twelve, gags

511
00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:01.039
<v Speaker 2>to Casey's sitting in the back, jumps and fires up.

512
00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Both doors are open because you've got an upper door

513
00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:05.799
<v Speaker 2>and the lower door on the piper cover. Casey telling

514
00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:08.400
<v Speaker 2>him everything about the pre check and pre flight and

515
00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:09.279
<v Speaker 2>all that kind of stuff.

516
00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:11.480
<v Speaker 3>He's just letting the engine warm up, right.

517
00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Brian's focusing on the temperature gage and that type of

518
00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:17.400
<v Speaker 2>thing and looking out. By this point, the wind it changed,

519
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:20.000
<v Speaker 2>so they got to win at their tail. They got

520
00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:22.359
<v Speaker 2>a taxi down a ways. Once it gets up to

521
00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:24.640
<v Speaker 2>running temperature, they got a taxi down, turn into the

522
00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:27.240
<v Speaker 2>wind and then take off. And so it gets to

523
00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:31.079
<v Speaker 2>a warm enough where Brian's okay with the templates at

524
00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:34.079
<v Speaker 2>to get out of there. So he starts taxing down.

525
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:37.240
<v Speaker 2>The doors are open, okay, Casey's got the twelve gates

526
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.319
<v Speaker 2>pointing out the doors. Brian's telling them on comms, don't

527
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:43.400
<v Speaker 2>shoot the strut because the piper cup it's got the

528
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:45.400
<v Speaker 2>two struts for the wings. He just said, don't shoot

529
00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:47.559
<v Speaker 2>the strut. We don't want to be stuck here. Don't

530
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:50.079
<v Speaker 2>shoot the strut. Cases, I'm not going to shoot the strut.

531
00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:53.720
<v Speaker 2>They taxi down, and when he turns and he's powering

532
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:55.559
<v Speaker 2>up for takeoff, throw on skis and stuff.

533
00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:58.839
<v Speaker 3>Right, so it's taking momentum to get to friction and

534
00:26:58.880 --> 00:26:59.200
<v Speaker 3>all that.

535
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:01.119
<v Speaker 2>Kind of stuff. Right, he's getting up to speed, and

536
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:04.640
<v Speaker 2>just as he lifts off and he's starting to gain altitude,

537
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:07.640
<v Speaker 2>that's when Casey starts yelling over the comps again and

538
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Brian shuts the door. Casey's screaming over the comps. It's

539
00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:13.440
<v Speaker 2>out in the open. It's out in the open. Brian

540
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:16.240
<v Speaker 2>didn't carry He's in the air. We're safe, right, that's

541
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:19.000
<v Speaker 2>his only give a shit. So he gains some altitude

542
00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:21.519
<v Speaker 2>and once he gains altitude, he circles back and comes back.

543
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:25.839
<v Speaker 2>As he was doing his thing to gain altitude and

544
00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:28.480
<v Speaker 2>all that, Casey was saying somebody wasn't paying attention because

545
00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:31.279
<v Speaker 2>he was just in shock. Gets turned around and then

546
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Casey says again, did you hear what I said? And

547
00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:35.359
<v Speaker 2>he goes no, no, man, I'm freaking out. Give me

548
00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:37.920
<v Speaker 2>a second. Case He goes, no, it came to where

549
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:40.559
<v Speaker 2>we were just parked, and it has your snowshoe and

550
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:42.759
<v Speaker 2>it went back into the trees. What are you doing there?

551
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Maybe it clicks shitt from scared pilots

552
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:49.440
<v Speaker 2>or whoever else comes to that. I don't know. They

553
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:52.680
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to share the exact particular valley. They just

554
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:55.599
<v Speaker 2>said leave it at check yak range and go look

555
00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:59.039
<v Speaker 2>at the map check gack ranges. There's a lot of

556
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:00.799
<v Speaker 2>valleys in there. Hey, you want to go look and

557
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:04.079
<v Speaker 2>go look. But I want to thank Brian and Casey

558
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:07.759
<v Speaker 2>for sharing that. It actually it split their friendship for

559
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:11.079
<v Speaker 2>this twenty years ago. It split their friendship for a while.

560
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:14.759
<v Speaker 2>Brian saw the channel and watched a few of the

561
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:17.440
<v Speaker 2>videos and realized, Oh, they're talking about real stuff. It's

562
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:21.000
<v Speaker 2>not just a bunch of AI garbage or whatever. But

563
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:25.759
<v Speaker 2>he reconnected with Casey. Is this a good thing? They

564
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:28.400
<v Speaker 2>were able to come back together as buddies, not have

565
00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:33.880
<v Speaker 2>that experience be a separator, a divider between them anymore

566
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:36.079
<v Speaker 2>because it had been for a while. Because every time

567
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.160
<v Speaker 2>they see each other it was stressful because they would

568
00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:42.279
<v Speaker 2>relive what they went through. I want to thank them sincerely.

569
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:45.799
<v Speaker 2>What I wanted to share with you today happened to

570
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:51.039
<v Speaker 2>a cyclist approximately fifteen years ago. There's this bicycle group

571
00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:55.480
<v Speaker 2>that likes to pedal across the state. So they'll start

572
00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:57.359
<v Speaker 2>down in Homer. I think it is something like that,

573
00:28:57.400 --> 00:29:01.079
<v Speaker 2>and then bike all the way up pass Fairbanks on

574
00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:03.279
<v Speaker 2>the road system up here. I don't know if they

575
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:06.240
<v Speaker 2>still do it. Used to see blips about it. Used

576
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:07.960
<v Speaker 2>to see some of the riders every once in a

577
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:10.960
<v Speaker 2>while on the side of the road. A commitment to cycling,

578
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:14.079
<v Speaker 2>that's for sure. It's a long drive, let alone pedaling

579
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:18.839
<v Speaker 2>a bike. Chad he doesn't live in Alaska. He would

580
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:23.359
<v Speaker 2>only come up for this bicycle excursion. A lot of

581
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:26.119
<v Speaker 2>these guys will tow a little pole behind thing like

582
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.559
<v Speaker 2>you would for your kids, but it'd had their camping

583
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:31.200
<v Speaker 2>gear and stuff and whatnot. He had been doing it

584
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:34.079
<v Speaker 2>for a number of years before this incident. And he

585
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:37.640
<v Speaker 2>was north of Trappers Creek. He was in a group

586
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:40.400
<v Speaker 2>of three cyclists, and the other two he was with

587
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:45.160
<v Speaker 2>continued on land of the midnight sun. He decided he

588
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:47.119
<v Speaker 2>saw a little spot he was going to get off

589
00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:50.039
<v Speaker 2>the road, take a break and get some sleep. He

590
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:53.440
<v Speaker 2>had just been run ragged. So as he's ungearing and

591
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:56.519
<v Speaker 2>getting all his stuff out, he picks a spot off

592
00:29:56.519 --> 00:29:59.319
<v Speaker 2>the side of the road with a small clearing, probably

593
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.559
<v Speaker 2>similar to one. And I'm sitting in right now, and

594
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.000
<v Speaker 2>stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be

595
00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:11.839
<v Speaker 2>right back after these messages. And he had a hammock tent,

596
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:15.799
<v Speaker 2>and so as he's stringamed up the hammock tent, he

597
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:19.279
<v Speaker 2>hears movement off to the side, And as he hears

598
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:23.440
<v Speaker 2>this movement, movement kind of semicircle around him, he gets

599
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:26.599
<v Speaker 2>real paranoid, gets not so fresh feeling. I'm not so

600
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:31.839
<v Speaker 2>joyous and peaceful as he's doing that, these sense in

601
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:34.880
<v Speaker 2>this movement, hearing it. For the life of him, he's

602
00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:36.839
<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out is one of these guys come

603
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:39.559
<v Speaker 2>back just to mess with me or something along those lines.

604
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:44.000
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't, he continues. He had these small ratchet straps

605
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:46.319
<v Speaker 2>he was using for his to wrap around trees to

606
00:30:46.319 --> 00:30:49.599
<v Speaker 2>hang his little hammock tent from, and he was adjusting

607
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:52.200
<v Speaker 2>one of them, and he was looking past the tree

608
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.240
<v Speaker 2>because something caught his eye. Now, as he's at the

609
00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:57.680
<v Speaker 2>tree looking at this thing that caught his eye, he

610
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:01.319
<v Speaker 2>hears a branch snap behind him. As he turns around,

611
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:04.599
<v Speaker 2>half expecting another cyclist that he had been talking to

612
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:08.079
<v Speaker 2>on the ride to be standing there, there was no

613
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:12.039
<v Speaker 2>one there, so immediately he's on edge. He has no firearm,

614
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:14.200
<v Speaker 2>he has some bear spray, so he goes all the

615
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:17.200
<v Speaker 2>way back up to the road. He said approximately seventy

616
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:18.920
<v Speaker 2>five yards off the road, so he didn't hear as

617
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.039
<v Speaker 2>much of the road noise. So as he gets back

618
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:25.119
<v Speaker 2>over to his little container he was dragging along behind

619
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:27.720
<v Speaker 2>his bike to get his bear spray out. He turns

620
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:30.079
<v Speaker 2>around from grabbing it and a couple other little odds

621
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:33.759
<v Speaker 2>and ends, and he's walking back the same trail. As

622
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:37.359
<v Speaker 2>he comes up, he notices one half of his hammock tent,

623
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:43.880
<v Speaker 2>the ratchet strap was torn, like ripped, not just undone,

624
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.359
<v Speaker 2>it was tattered, ripped. And those things are nylon. But

625
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:49.200
<v Speaker 2>that takes a lot of brute force just to rip

626
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:52.119
<v Speaker 2>that shit off of there. You'd need a lot of

627
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>strength to do that. Go get a ratget strap and

628
00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:57.960
<v Speaker 2>just yank on nap. See where you get. So he's

629
00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:00.480
<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out what the hell and it's not

630
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:05.000
<v Speaker 2>adding up. There was movement, there's sound, and he noticed

631
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:08.759
<v Speaker 2>movement going on. He wasn't putting it all together rightfully.

632
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:10.799
<v Speaker 2>He was confused, what the hell is going on here?

633
00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:15.559
<v Speaker 2>What's really happening? And as he's zig zagging through the

634
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:18.960
<v Speaker 2>trees around trying to see if he sees any sign

635
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:20.880
<v Speaker 2>of anyone who may have been messing with this shit,

636
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe someone cut it something along those lines that he

637
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:28.160
<v Speaker 2>wasn't too sure. He makes a complete circle around this

638
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:31.920
<v Speaker 2>clearing area and as he comes back around, as he

639
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:34.400
<v Speaker 2>comes back around to where his half his hammock is

640
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.759
<v Speaker 2>hanging because the one half was torn, he gets an

641
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:41.839
<v Speaker 2>overwhelming sense of dread. Like fear he's never had before

642
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.640
<v Speaker 2>in his life. And he's trying to figure out why

643
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:47.599
<v Speaker 2>am I so scared? He's done this trip many times,

644
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:50.400
<v Speaker 2>he's camped in more remote places than off the side

645
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:52.039
<v Speaker 2>of the road, So he's trying to figure out why

646
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.839
<v Speaker 2>am I so scared. As he's deciding what he's going

647
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:58.440
<v Speaker 2>to do, there's more movement that catches his eye, and

648
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:00.799
<v Speaker 2>so he pays more attention in these looking through the

649
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:04.599
<v Speaker 2>break in the trees and watching this movement. And he said,

650
00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:06.119
<v Speaker 2>at first he thought it was a guy in a

651
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:08.880
<v Speaker 2>gilly suit, a hunter or something. Maybe he came across

652
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:10.920
<v Speaker 2>someone's hunting area and they didn't like it too much,

653
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:13.400
<v Speaker 2>so they were going to run him off. And so

654
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:16.359
<v Speaker 2>he yells out, hey, hey, over here, did you tear

655
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:19.720
<v Speaker 2>my shit half? Accusing this person of destroying his stuff?

656
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Who else was around? And so after he yells a

657
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:25.759
<v Speaker 2>couple times, there was no response. Everything just went dead quiet.

658
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:29.279
<v Speaker 2>He said he didn't even hear the bugs, which that's

659
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:31.119
<v Speaker 2>a nerving shit, trust me, he don't want to be

660
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:32.720
<v Speaker 2>out in the middle of nowhere. And it goes dead

661
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:37.160
<v Speaker 2>quiet for a multitude of reasons. Bear Harryman, whatever it's

662
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.200
<v Speaker 2>not a good environment. So as he's contemplating what he's

663
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:42.720
<v Speaker 2>going to do, he's gathering a shit back up. He's

664
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:45.839
<v Speaker 2>just going to pedal on, is what he decided, and

665
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:48.680
<v Speaker 2>so he has his bear spray on his hip. He's

666
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:51.480
<v Speaker 2>gathering up his stuff. He hadn't packed a whole lot there,

667
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.799
<v Speaker 2>and so as he's getting the last bits of it,

668
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:57.039
<v Speaker 2>he starts hiking it back out. He had a couple

669
00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:59.200
<v Speaker 2>like one more trip to grab the rest of it.

670
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:02.079
<v Speaker 2>But as he was hiking out to load his shit up,

671
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:08.199
<v Speaker 2>he gets to his little buggy. He commences to fiddle

672
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:10.840
<v Speaker 2>with things in there and readjust some things. Once he

673
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:13.280
<v Speaker 2>got out of the trees, he didn't have that overwhelming

674
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>sense of fear. However, he did have an overwhelming sense

675
00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 2>of being watched. So when he turns back around to

676
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:23.880
<v Speaker 2>go get the last of his stuff, he noticed his

677
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:26.400
<v Speaker 2>movement off in the trees, just cut behind some trees

678
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:29.800
<v Speaker 2>just out of you, but not enough to just the movement.

679
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:33.360
<v Speaker 2>He couldn't make anything out. So he's sitting there perplexed

680
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:35.280
<v Speaker 2>on what to do because it's in the same direction

681
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:36.880
<v Speaker 2>he has to go to get the rest of his stuff.

682
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:39.559
<v Speaker 2>So he gets off his bear spray he's holding it

683
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:42.760
<v Speaker 2>in his hand and he walks in. Now he's dead

684
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.199
<v Speaker 2>dog tired. He's been peddling a bike for miles and miles.

685
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:49.119
<v Speaker 2>He does not want to be doing this. So as

686
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:53.400
<v Speaker 2>he gets back in there, he notices his stuff is

687
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:56.119
<v Speaker 2>not where it was. He had his hammock tent coiled

688
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:58.880
<v Speaker 2>up in a ball with the ropes wrapped around it,

689
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:02.400
<v Speaker 2>and he couldn't he's looking around for it. He finds

690
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:04.880
<v Speaker 2>his little water jug and the little day pack thing

691
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:08.679
<v Speaker 2>that he gathered those up, and he's looking around and

692
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:11.760
<v Speaker 2>he hears something off in the distance, and he looks

693
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:15.119
<v Speaker 2>in that direction and up in a tree. And now

694
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:16.840
<v Speaker 2>this is not the first time we've heard of this,

695
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:21.840
<v Speaker 2>but up in a tree, his little bundled pack was

696
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:24.280
<v Speaker 2>up in some branches, way up. He said it was

697
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:27.119
<v Speaker 2>thirty foot plus where the single was up in the trees.

698
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:29.679
<v Speaker 2>And for the life of him, he could not figure

699
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:32.760
<v Speaker 2>out how in the hell his shit one got torn

700
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:36.519
<v Speaker 2>and then to be put up in a tree where

701
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:38.880
<v Speaker 2>who's going to get it up there? He didn't climb

702
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:42.559
<v Speaker 2>up to get it. So he immediately decides time to

703
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:44.679
<v Speaker 2>gets go. Time I'm not sticking here. This is some

704
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:48.000
<v Speaker 2>crazy shit he felt like he was in the twilight zone.

705
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Nothing was making any sense whatsoever. So as he is

706
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:56.039
<v Speaker 2>making his way out, he keeps hearing this grunt sound,

707
00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:58.840
<v Speaker 2>and he said it sounded just like a bear grunt.

708
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:01.360
<v Speaker 2>So he turns around, half expecting to have to spray

709
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:04.719
<v Speaker 2>a bear. And his mind's really racing because he's got

710
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.599
<v Speaker 2>this thing, this figure in the distance. His shit's missing

711
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:09.960
<v Speaker 2>up in a tree, and now this bear grunt, so

712
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:13.679
<v Speaker 2>it's a whole multitude of just different shit going on

713
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:16.400
<v Speaker 2>in his head. He clears the tree line and as

714
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:18.840
<v Speaker 2>soon as he clears the tree line, just to his

715
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:22.320
<v Speaker 2>right hand side, a tree gets knocked down in front

716
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:24.639
<v Speaker 2>of him at an angle. If he had kept walking

717
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:27.639
<v Speaker 2>instead of stopping, the tree may have actually hit him.

718
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:30.800
<v Speaker 3>It was a light birch crack. He heard it snap,

719
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:31.440
<v Speaker 3>he heard it break.

720
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:34.360
<v Speaker 2>It was about eight inch diameter, and he looks over

721
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:37.960
<v Speaker 2>in the direction and he sees this thing standing there,

722
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:40.559
<v Speaker 2>just looking at him, And as soon as they make

723
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.960
<v Speaker 2>eye contact, he said, it was really black in the face.

724
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:46.199
<v Speaker 2>It was silhouetted, so all he could see was a

725
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:49.159
<v Speaker 2>little gleam in the eye, kind of the light reflecting

726
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:52.199
<v Speaker 2>off the eye, not in a luminescent type thing. It

727
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:55.960
<v Speaker 2>just eyeshine, not within the sense of a flashlight shine,

728
00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:59.280
<v Speaker 2>but just life in the eyes. And he yells, hey, dude,

729
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.960
<v Speaker 2>this thing just walks in the tree line, but coming

730
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:05.920
<v Speaker 2>in his direction. Now he's only about five ten feet

731
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.639
<v Speaker 2>out of the tree line. And up here on along

732
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:10.599
<v Speaker 2>the sides of the roads, you'll have the road drop

733
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:13.719
<v Speaker 2>off into a ditch typically, and then it'll bank up

734
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:16.440
<v Speaker 2>and then the trees will start. In this particular area,

735
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:20.639
<v Speaker 2>it was flat across, so he's literally on the same

736
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:24.280
<v Speaker 2>flat ground. This thing is walking along and as soon

737
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:26.679
<v Speaker 2>as he gets parallel with him in the tree line,

738
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:30.239
<v Speaker 2>it screams at him. And he's stuck. He's holding this

739
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:32.960
<v Speaker 2>bear spray, stuck. He doesn't know what the hell to

740
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:35.119
<v Speaker 2>do because none of this is making sense to him.

741
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:37.559
<v Speaker 2>And as he turns and he's pointing the bear spray

742
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:41.800
<v Speaker 2>at this thing, it just walks backwards, looking right at him,

743
00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:46.840
<v Speaker 2>but smoothly walks backwards and then gets in a little

744
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:51.039
<v Speaker 2>ways and then steps out of you. Now he's really stuck.

745
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:53.559
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't know what to do with this. As a

746
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:55.079
<v Speaker 2>matter of fact, when he was sharing it with me,

747
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:57.880
<v Speaker 2>he was just questioning me why did they do that?

748
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Why this? And I was like, dude, hey, guests as

749
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:03.239
<v Speaker 2>good as mine. But for whatever reason, as it stepped

750
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:06.440
<v Speaker 2>out of you, he said, the scream was still ringing

751
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:08.920
<v Speaker 2>in his ears. Before he knew it. He was on

752
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:11.559
<v Speaker 2>his bike pedaling. He must have been about two three

753
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:15.840
<v Speaker 2>miles from that particular spot when he came across another

754
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:19.320
<v Speaker 2>cyclist that was packing up his camping shit because he

755
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:23.239
<v Speaker 2>heard the scream from a couple miles away. This dude,

756
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:27.440
<v Speaker 2>another bicyclist, heard that scream and gathered up his shit

757
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:30.159
<v Speaker 2>and decided he was going to pedal on too. There's

758
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:34.719
<v Speaker 2>a series of canyons and fjord like areas along some

759
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:38.000
<v Speaker 2>of these rivers just up north of here, very beautiful

760
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:41.400
<v Speaker 2>treacherous grounds though, so as he catches up to the

761
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:43.800
<v Speaker 2>other guy coming up, he stops and says, tells him

762
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:45.920
<v Speaker 2>what happened. And the guy was like, I heard that scream.

763
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:50.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm packing up, I'm leaving. The other bicyclist had a gun.

764
00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:54.159
<v Speaker 2>The bicyclist with the gun was carrying it in his hand.

765
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:57.599
<v Speaker 2>He was like, hey, just put that away. It's back there.

766
00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:00.159
<v Speaker 2>It could have attacked me. It didn't. That kind of

767
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:02.880
<v Speaker 2>thing guys, I don't give a shit if it didn't

768
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:05.880
<v Speaker 2>attack you. That sounds humongous, and I don't know what

769
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:07.760
<v Speaker 2>it is. And he tries to explain to him, I

770
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:11.360
<v Speaker 2>saw it whatever you basically describing the sasquatch to him,

771
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:14.920
<v Speaker 2>and the guy kind of chuckles and puts his gun away.

772
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:18.719
<v Speaker 2>This guy just heard the same screen enough to cause

773
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:22.280
<v Speaker 2>him to pack up to freaking leave. But he's gonna

774
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.400
<v Speaker 2>mock the guy who came from that traction and told

775
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:27.320
<v Speaker 2>him what it was. I whatever, I don't get that,

776
00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:30.960
<v Speaker 2>but he continued, He peddled on, no further instance or

777
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:34.000
<v Speaker 2>anything like that. But this poor guy was just out

778
00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:37.639
<v Speaker 2>pedaling his bike doing something he's done a million times.

779
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.239
<v Speaker 2>And there's it seems to be a running theme with that.

780
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:42.360
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of people who have been out here

781
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:45.639
<v Speaker 2>for many years, never had a single problem, not a

782
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:48.599
<v Speaker 2>single instance of anything, to all of a sudden have

783
00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:53.239
<v Speaker 2>that shit shattered in a heartbeat. It's unfortunate. There's no

784
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:57.320
<v Speaker 2>definites none. I rack my brain every day on something definitive,

785
00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:02.440
<v Speaker 2>something concrete, but it varies so much. There's nothing really tangible.

786
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:05.199
<v Speaker 2>Yet again, the excursion I'm getting ready to go on,

787
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:07.440
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna drift this to sit in a river. There

788
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:10.840
<v Speaker 2>was some recent activity there. We were paste out of

789
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:15.039
<v Speaker 2>one spot. We're gonna go back film this time. The

790
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:17.320
<v Speaker 2>first time I went, I didn't have permission to film,

791
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:20.719
<v Speaker 2>so I didn't bring anything with me other than protection.

792
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:23.800
<v Speaker 2>And then we had some bullshit happen and we got

793
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:25.880
<v Speaker 2>paste out from the spot where he was showing me

794
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:29.320
<v Speaker 2>the encounter, so I guess spot of two encounters. We

795
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:31.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't have a visual, but it was definitely making noise

796
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:35.280
<v Speaker 2>and stomping around. Squash Paint didn't like that. He really

797
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:37.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't like that. I'll be getting back to you guys soon,

798
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:41.039
<v Speaker 2>getting ready to take off into the wild until the

799
00:40:41.079 --> 00:42:27.679
<v Speaker 2>next one. I can't, I can't, I can't