Speaker 1: Since Gilaine Maxwell got arrested, all we have heard is
how unfair poor Gelaine has been treated. There're psychologists watching
her every move, she has to wear paper clothes, even
she's been put on suicide watch, and she's in solitary confinement.
These are just a few of the complaints we have
heard from her and her legal team since she's been
in the clink. Well, all of that stuff a bunch
of bup GISTs, like we knew it was, And in reality,
of course, Gelaine Maxwell is going to get favorable treatment.
Now we find out today that Gelaine Maxwell is the
first inmate at her facility in six months to get
a face to face with her lawyer. What all those
people that have been in jail longer than her don't
deserve that face to face first. All of these people
that have been arrested waiting to talk to their legal
counsel shouldn't be given the same opportunity. Why does Gelaine
Maxwell get to be the first inmate in this facility
who gets to see her legal counsel face to face.
It's absurd, It is absolutely absurd, especially considering the barrage
of bullshit her legal team was throwing around about her
being treated unfairly. So you see now right here in
front of your face, in front of your eyes, how
it unfolds. Can plain? Can plain? Can plain? Complain? When
it's obvious the conditions are not what they say they are.
And in reality we know that eventually Gilaine Maxwell would
get some favorable treatment. And here we are, so I
would be pissed if I was a lawyer for one
of these other inmates, or if I was one of
these other inmates.
Speaker 2: I would be furious that this lady, this high society,
so called member of polite society, gets to see her
lawyer before I do.
Speaker 1: What makes her any better than any of those other
people waiting either to go to prison, to be sentenced
to prison, or those who have been sentenced, whatever it
may be. What makes her have the right to see
her attorneys face to face before them. Our article tonight
is from the Daily Mail. The author of this article
is Karen Ruiz. Headline Gilaine Maxwell becomes first federal inmate
in NYC allowed an in person visit since the pandemic started.
After the British socialite co conspirator fellow child abuser attorneys
were spotted arriving at the prison for a four hour meeting.
And it wasn't like they just came for a quick Hey,
how you doing get a four hour meeting? And your
cousin Mike gets to rod Away in the middle of
the coronavirus pandemic. That's nice, huh? That two tier justice
system sure is beautiful, isn't it. Two members of Gilane
Maxwell's legal team were spotted visiting her in prison on Friday,
making her the first federal inmate in New York City
to be granted and in person visit since the start
of the pandemic. Wow, So Gailanne Maxwell gets arrested. It's
only been in there since July, but all of a
sudden she skips to the front of the line to
get her lawyers in there to talk to her. After
we were just fed that whole line of bullshit about
how poorly she has been treated. Nobody's buying that, first
of all. Second of all, she should not be seeing
her lawyers if other people are not. Here's what I
said from the beginning, equal treatment for everybody under the law.
Maxwell fifty eight, has been held at the Metropolitan Detention
Center in Brooklyn since early July, when she was denied
bail after pleading not guilty to child sex trafficking charges. Wow,
you know what, it's not just her facility. She's the
first inmate in all of New York City, according to
this article, to be granted and in person visit. Can
you imagine all of the people that are in jail
in New York City. Think about that for a minute.
And she's the first one granted an in person sit
down with her lawyers. I don't even know what to
say about that. I mean, these lawyers are going to
have a field day that their clients were left in
the dark while Gielen Maxwell was able to get that
top notch treatment. Must be nice to have a couple
of bucks. Must be nice to have a few political
political connections that are still active. Huh. Until today, prisoners
have not been allowed to meet with their attorneys or
other visitors in person due to the coronavirus restrictions. Defense
attorney Christian Everdell Harvard Alum was seen arriving at the
prison Friday morning alongside another female member of Maxwell's legal team.
The New York Daily News reported both wore masks as
they entered the facility. Well that's nice. It's a good
thing that they wore masks. I mean, you know that
protects everybody from what's going on now that they have
their masks on. Well, it's all okay unless you're one
of the other countless numbers of prisoners in the New
York detention centers system and rotting away waiting for your
chance to speak to your lawyers to formulate your defense. Meanwhile,
you pick up the news, read the news the next day,
and this is what your family sees. That this monster
gets to speak to her representation and they don't. Sources
told the paper it was the first time an inmate
had received a legal visit since the pandemic started, and
that the visit lasted nearly four hours. I mean, wow,
this is a case that has been riddled with privilege
for the upper crust of society, for the rich, for
the powerful, and Guilaine Maxwell is still getting dealt those cards.
She's still getting called to the front of the line.
How is that even possible? Attorney Shawan Hecker, who has
filed a lawsuit seeking to grant defense attorneys access to
their clients again, slammed the visit as absurd and the unjust. Yeah,
I'll tell you what mister Shawn Hecker, I agree with
you there, sir, absolutely ridiculous, And like I said before
I started the article, I'm sure that there are some
lawyers that are insane over this. If I was a
lawyer for one of the inmates in New York that
I've been trying to see my or my client has
requested to see me and I have not been able
to do so due to the coronavirus restrictions. And I
wake up and I find out that Maxwell, of all people,
gets to go and talk to her legal representation for
four hours, Yeah, I'd be pretty pissed. Never mind, if
I was this attorney, Sean Hecker, who had a lawsuit
already filed seeking to grant the defense attorney's access to
their clients. So yeah, I'm pretty sure this guy's fired up.
We've been litigating for the Federal Defenders of New York
to obtain a safe in person visiting option for many months.
MDC detainees have been waiting up to six months for
such visits, and BOP MDC decides that the first such
visit should go to a wealthy British sociolite. Absurd and unjust,
he said on Twitter and I just like to say,
not a socialite. I'd like to say co conspirator and
you know, child abuser. But besides that, that's a quality
rant from mister Sean Hecker here, who has a lawsuit
going because he wants to be able to talk to
his clients in person. Is that too much to ask?
I mean, you would think that if you were an
inmate in one of these jails, that you'd be dying
at this point to see your legal representation. Imagine being
in here since the pandemic has started and not being
able to talk to your lawyer face to face. But
Elaine Maxwell, well, she shows up and all of a sudden,
the person who's crying that she's being treated so unjustly
automatically gets a four hour face to face. The Bureau
of Prisons refused to confirm whether Maxwell was the first
inmate to receive an in person visit, but said coronavirus
protocols remain in place. So wait a minute here, hold on, now,
you mean to tell me, according to this article anyway,
that these protocols remain in place, so none of these
other inmates are going to be able to see their representation.
After knowing that Gilain Maxwell was able to see hers.
Is that what you're telling me right now? Is that
what this article is trying to tell us? Because I
have to say wow. While in general legal visits are suspended,
case by case accommodations will be accomplished at the local level,
and confidential legal calls will be allowed in order to
ensure inmates maintain access to counsel, a spokesperson told the paper,
we are facilitating attorney client visitation as well as judicial
proceedings via video conference, primarily at our detention centers. So
it's a case by case basis. Who decides the Bureau
of Prisons? How many other waivers have they granted since
the pandemic has started. That would be a good place
for us to start. No, if they haven't granted any
other waivers, and all of a sudden, Gilain Maxwell gets
the waiver, Well, what does that tell you? What does
that say about this fine two tier justice system that
lords over us? Just more evidence about how corrupt and
ancient it is. Hecker said he learned Maxwell was the
first prisoner to be granted access to our legal team
in person from another source. It is outrageous that the
first person visit would be granted to a well healed
British socialite who the President of the United States that
he wished well. He told s CNBC that the it
only serves to confirm that our government doesn't understand that
they operate two different systems of justice, one for the
well healed and well connected and one for everyone else. Wow.
This Sean Hecker is my kind of guy. Huh out
here talking about the two tier justice system and pointing
out that Glaine Maxwell still is you know, somebody who
has connections in higher places, right. But the fact of
the matter is if she's getting these visits and nobody
else is and there's no other waivers that have been granted,
the question is why did she get a waiver and
nobody else has gotten one. It's not like nobody else
has asked. According to this lawyer, again, he has filed
a suit because he is not granted access to his clients.
And we could talk about the you know, the video conferencing,
and that's definitely a workaround, no doubt. But if Maxwell
is getting access, then all of the other inmates should
have the same access, or nobody should have access. Hecker said.
Officials have been discussing allowing inmates visits from their lawyers again,
but they are likely to be limited to a one
hour session from one lawyer. Maxwell, however, was visited by
two people for over three hours, so again, whatever Maxwell gets,
the rest of the inmates should get as well. I
don't understand how they think that something like this is
just going to be ignored. With all of the spotlight
that is on this case, you would think that people
would have all of their ducks in a row and
would be conducting themselves in a correct and proper fashion.
If you're again, there is no way that Gilaine Maxwell
should be getting visits from her lawyers while nobody else does.
It comes days after the British socialite co conspirator fellow
child Abus her general all around scumbag, was denied her
request to be transferred out of solitary confinement after lawyers
argued she was unable to properly prepare for trial under
twenty four hour surveillance. So I guess she's going to
be able to properly prepare now, right, we won't have
to hear that anymore. On the bright side, her lawyers
can go and get stuffed now with their stupid ass
ridiculous comments about how she's being treated so poorly. No,
she's not being treated poorly. In fact, she's being treated
like a high profile prisoner should be treated. And from
what we're reading here, she's getting some special privileges. Even so,
please save it. She had previously complained about conditions inside
the jail, where she is to remain until her trial
next July. Maxwell has been taken off suicide watch earlier
this month, but is being searched multiple times each day
and is under constant watch of the guards, her lawyers
said in a letter protesting about the uniquely onerous conditions
of her confinement. Her legal team claimed that she has
been kept under constant surveillance without her consent. Again, you're
in prison, Okay, jail, I should say, not prison yet,
that's next. But you're in jail. There is no more
your consent. Okay, you're part of the menagerie. Now you're
on display. If they want to watch you twenty four
hours a day, so be it. If they want to
scan you with whatever sort of machine they have that
runs the scan, Hey, guess what you're getting scanned. If
it's time to take a shower, guess what Gilaane, it's
time to take a shower, and when it's time for
you to eat your boloney sandwich for dinner, guess what
you're gonna eat it, and you're gonna like it. Maxwell
was arrested on July second on charges that she assisted
her former boyfriend, co conspirator, fellow child abuser, convicted pedophile
and late financier Jeffrey Epstein in the sexual abuse of
miners between nineteen ninety four and nineteen ninety seven and
lying under oath. She is pleaded not guilty. Look, it's
a farce that Gilain Maxwell is given any sort of
special privileges that other inmates are not receiving. I don't
know how much more clear I can be about that,
And in fact, I really would like to see where
this story ends up going. Does this open the floodgates
for other prisoners now to have one on ones with
their lawyers? It should, I know, if I was an
inmate or if I was one of these lawyers, That's
what I would be pining for. And I think they
have a good case, right if you bring this before
a judge, I think a judge would probably side with
the plaintiff here because it's a legitimate case. If it's
good for Glaine, why is it not good for Joe Bob?
And this is just another example of what this case
has held from the very beginning. We keep seeing instances
of the very most privileged amongst us getting special, special
circumstances provided for them, no matter the situation. So next
time you hear Glaine Maxwell's lawyers crying foul, the next
time you hear them complaining about her so called terrible
conditions inside of the jail, just to remember that she
got a four hour one on one with her lawyers
while the rest of those inmates were told to rot.
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