Speaker 1: You don't want to be an American idiot loving the
Speaker 1: Canadian wildfire smoke. It's nice to drive through Cincinnati and
Speaker 1: smell something other than pot. Gary Jeff Finn for Sloani.
Speaker 1: This Monday morning, June the second, and right out of
Speaker 1: the shoe, we've got a hopeful for Cincinnati mayor on
Speaker 1: a day where the folks downtown will raise the Pride flag.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll get into that, but our
Speaker 1: first guest today is a guy I had the chance
Speaker 1: to meet last summer, and now he's running for mayor
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. Won in the primary, came in second, a
Speaker 1: long shot second to have tab pure vol in the
Speaker 1: primary that was held in November. You, as a citizen
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, will decide whether this guy will be the
Speaker 1: next mayor of Cincinnati. I like him. He's a friend
Speaker 1: of mine. Well, he can be a friend to mine.
Speaker 1: He's a friendly guy to me. Corey Bowman, how you
Speaker 1: doing man?
Speaker 2: Hello to my friend Gary Jeff.
Speaker 3: How you doing there?
Speaker 1: You are on the road to Columbus, which sounds like
Speaker 1: a bing Crosby Bob Hope movie. That reference was for
Speaker 1: the dead people who are listening. Gary Jeff, what's your
Speaker 1: key demographic people in coffins. So anyway, on the road
Speaker 1: doing a little Man. You've had a busy schedule. You
Speaker 1: told me Corey that when we were just talking about
Speaker 1: you being on the show eventually, because you've been so
Speaker 1: busy with everything you've got going on in your life.
Speaker 1: Not only is Corey a pastor, not only is he
Speaker 1: a business owner, has the coffee shop on the West End.
Speaker 1: Not only is he running for mayor, but his wife
Speaker 1: is ready to have a baby. How is that.
Speaker 3: Going going awesome? We're about two weeks away from our
Speaker 3: due date of our fourth child. We're very excited.
Speaker 1: I think I asked you on the phone, Corey, when
Speaker 1: we talked the last time we were talking about your
Speaker 1: wife expecting, I said, man, are you nuts? How could
Speaker 1: you have that much on your plate at the same time?
Speaker 1: This is crazy. I mean I'm good enough just to
Speaker 1: be able to do this bartend and try and keep
Speaker 1: my wife happy. That's three. But that's as much as
Speaker 1: I got time for. Where do you find time for
Speaker 1: all of this in the campaigning and the money raising
Speaker 1: and everything else.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it is definitely something that you have
Speaker 3: to navigate through. And we've never had a political race
Speaker 3: in our life before, and this is all new territory
Speaker 3: for us. But thankfully there's some really great people that
Speaker 3: have come along side us and help, whether it be
Speaker 3: with advice or volunteer opportunities. And yeah, I think I've
Speaker 3: told you a lot time I talk with you that
Speaker 3: I wake up in the morning, you know about every
Speaker 3: morning just saying Corey, you made a crazy decision here,
Speaker 3: and then by the end of the day I feel
Speaker 3: so encouraged because of the conversations that we have with
Speaker 3: people that are very hopeful for what we're doing.
Speaker 1: What do you what do you think the trick is
Speaker 1: for somebody who's not a Democrat to get elected into
Speaker 1: citywide office in Cincinnati? Is it just getting people out
Speaker 1: to vote? Because the voter turnout is so incredibly horribly
Speaker 1: low in Cincinnati in most places, unless it's a national election,
Speaker 1: a federal election, how do you get people to turn out?
Speaker 1: The Democrats always seem to.
Speaker 3: Well, you have to give them reason to turn out,
Speaker 3: you know. And that's going to be what we're working on.
Speaker 3: What we have then, what we're working on and what
Speaker 3: we will be the next five months is just showing
Speaker 3: people what our policies are what we stand for practical polities.
Speaker 3: You know, there's certain just general stances that we can have,
Speaker 3: but we're working on key practical things that we would
Speaker 3: implement from day one, and these are things that we're
Speaker 3: going to be communicating all throughout the next five months,
Speaker 3: getting people excited about what's happening. And then obviously you
Speaker 3: just got to give people hope. You know what's going
Speaker 3: on in our city right now. You've got to be
Speaker 3: able to give people a choice. At the end of
Speaker 3: the day. You know, this election is going to turn
Speaker 3: out however it's going to turn out, but we're going
Speaker 3: to fight to be able to show people that you
Speaker 3: can have a choice, so you can have debate and
Speaker 3: you can have differences of opinion.
Speaker 1: Last night, downtown twelfth and Central area shots rang out
Speaker 1: and people were outside dining trying to enjoy a Sunday evening.
Speaker 1: They were told by the police a shelter in place.
Speaker 1: And I mean, this is going on more and more
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Gary Jeff, Gary Jeff, that can't be. They've been reporting
Speaker 3: that crime is low.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, But how much is going unreported? Corey,
Speaker 1: And how much is going unpublicized by perhaps in sometimes
Speaker 1: a complacent media that just looks the other way. This is,
Speaker 1: this is increasingly a problem not only in Cincinnati, but
Speaker 1: in other large cities. How do you tackle that as.
Speaker 3: Mayor Well, you know, this is an issue to where
Speaker 3: if you actually look people that are living downtown. We
Speaker 3: have a business in the West End, we have a
Speaker 3: church in the West End. We go out and talk
Speaker 3: with community and we actually talk with a lot of
Speaker 3: CPD basis just what's going on. You know, you can
Speaker 3: look at the statistics all you want of what they're
Speaker 3: trying to put out, but I'll tell you everybody that
Speaker 3: is anywhere close to downtown in the city knows that
Speaker 3: nothing could be farther from the truth that there are gunshops,
Speaker 3: that there's crime that's being unreported. And then also we
Speaker 3: need to talk about the structure of how things are
Speaker 3: set up with the call center and with you know,
Speaker 3: how things are dispatched properly, because the reality of it
Speaker 3: is that we have a call center right now that
Speaker 3: is operated by the city and at their own discretion
Speaker 3: when calls come in, they have the choice to send
Speaker 3: out either a three to one one officer, an ARC officer,
Speaker 3: or a CPD officer, And if you look at all
Speaker 3: the unrest in the division that's happening in our city
Speaker 3: right now, it's because CPD and these local law enforcement
Speaker 3: officers that are doing nothing but wanting to protect and
Speaker 3: serve their community, they're being seen as the worst case
Speaker 3: scenario and it's creating this divide with the community. We
Speaker 3: need cops to be able to go in these businesses,
Speaker 3: to be able to go into the community, and to
Speaker 3: be able to have a relationship with those that they serve.
Speaker 1: What is the strengthened status of Cincinnati Police? How are
Speaker 1: we still under what we should have as far as
Speaker 1: actual Cincinnati police officers.
Speaker 3: Cory, I think the biggest issue that I'm hearing isn't
Speaker 3: necessarily the understaff, it's how it's being approached with these
Speaker 3: officers on what they actually are set out to accomplish.
Speaker 3: A lot of policies that are in place are tying
Speaker 3: their hands, you know, when it comes to non pursuit laws,
Speaker 3: when it comes to prosecutors that are releasing criminals right
Speaker 3: after their book. These are things to where it decreases
Speaker 3: the morale of the cops. And when you talk to
Speaker 3: these police officers It's not about understaff, it's not about
Speaker 3: any of that. It's about the job that they're doing
Speaker 3: on a daily basis. Is it worth anything? And then
Speaker 3: can there be policies in place that can actually allow
Speaker 3: them to do their jobs more properly and more effectively
Speaker 3: because they care about these crime rates. I think the
Speaker 3: police officers get a bad rap sometimes whenever you report
Speaker 3: some of the crime, but they want to do everything
Speaker 3: within their power to be able to help and serve
Speaker 3: the community. We just have to set that culture with
Speaker 3: the policies at the top.
Speaker 1: More and more and more, not just in Cincinnati, but
Speaker 1: all over the country. It's becoming exceedingly expensive to pay
Speaker 1: for a place to live. You hear the term affordable housing,
Speaker 1: and how would a Corey Bowman try and attack the
Speaker 1: housing that is just you know, out of reach for
Speaker 1: people who are working jobs, working two jobs. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're going to spend everything you got on rent, You
Speaker 1: got nothing to eat once you get home. What do
Speaker 1: you think is a logical reasonable answer to solving what
Speaker 1: is becoming a real crisis.
Speaker 3: Well, I think there's several things you've got to look at.
Speaker 3: Number one is that we do have affordable housing in
Speaker 3: the city in the west and where on then where
Speaker 3: I believe eighty seven percent government subsidized housing. This is
Speaker 3: the problem though, is that there's a major disparity between
Speaker 3: those that are getting helped out in a bad situation
Speaker 3: and those that are at the top of the income level.
Speaker 3: We have to create opportunities for people to have market
Speaker 3: rate housing or even eighty percent AMI. There's certain programs
Speaker 3: that we need to be more aggressive with when it
Speaker 3: comes to creating that pathway out. For many people in
Speaker 3: these low income areas, their only pathway out is to
Speaker 3: move out. But that shouldn't be the case. In a
Speaker 3: lot of these areas, you have at the very lowest
Speaker 3: of levels of affordable housing and then you'll have like
Speaker 3: an eight hundred thousand dollars talent home that's right across
Speaker 3: the street. We have to be able to have an
Speaker 3: in between to where we show these young individuals that
Speaker 3: as they grow up, they graduate, they get married, they
Speaker 3: have kids, that there can be a pathway for them
Speaker 3: to keep on moving up instead of just being stuck
Speaker 3: where they are, and that has to come from the city.
Speaker 3: When it comes to the policies of the housing. We
Speaker 3: actually need to put more power in the hands of
Speaker 3: the community. What we saw in Hyde Park is an
Speaker 3: example of a council and a mayor that really didn't
Speaker 3: pay attention to the voices of the community. We all
Speaker 3: need to be for development. I don't need to be
Speaker 3: able to encourage these local developers to be able to
Speaker 3: revitalize these amazing properties they're in our city. But when
Speaker 3: it comes down to it, a lot of times the
Speaker 3: council and the mayor have their ultimate vision and that
Speaker 3: comes at the expense of the opinions of the community.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the situation at Hyde Park is a
Speaker 1: perfect example cory of you know, just progress over people's
Speaker 1: desires for you know, maintaining a certain culture and a
Speaker 1: certain charm that an area has. And that was absolutely
Speaker 1: a railroading in my opinion. All right, finally Cincinnati listed.
Speaker 1: Now they've taken the page down today. I just heard
Speaker 1: on the news. DHS has of areas that were listed
Speaker 1: as sanctuary cities and may have their federal funding threatened
Speaker 1: because of their policy regarding ice and illegal immigrants that
Speaker 1: are residing and in many cases, committing crimes in those areas,
Speaker 1: and there's no cooperation between local law enforcement and the
Speaker 1: local administration and the federal officials who are trying to
Speaker 1: find and detain these people who were in our country illegally.
Speaker 1: It may be a prickly subject for you. I don't
Speaker 1: know as a pastor, But tell me what a Cory
Speaker 1: Bowman administration would you work to rescind that what we
Speaker 1: were told at the time was a symbolic sanctuary city
Speaker 1: status of Cincinnati in order to be more in line
Speaker 1: with the federal government's immigration policy and the president's immigration policy.
Speaker 3: Well, I think number one, whenever you see the resolution
Speaker 3: and you see that there's a declaration that we're a
Speaker 3: sanctuary city, there was no actually action that backed up
Speaker 3: that claim other than just a sh And that's what
Speaker 3: ends up happening with a lot of these individuals, are
Speaker 3: a lot of our policies that it's all just to
Speaker 3: have this front At the end of the day, they
Speaker 3: didn't necessarily say that they were going to prevent ice
Speaker 3: from coming in the city. So are we a sanctuary
Speaker 3: city or not? It creates a lot of confusion. Second,
Speaker 3: you said that we're you know that as a pastor,
Speaker 3: how do I feel about this? If I'm having a
Speaker 3: Sunday morning service and I have dedicated members in my
Speaker 3: service that I'm in charge of. That that is my
Speaker 3: flock that I'm there to steward and to counsel and
Speaker 3: to help and preach the word of God to. And
Speaker 3: then somebody comes in off the street with a gun
Speaker 3: and starts shooting up the place. What do I do?
Speaker 3: Do I put that person's rights ahead of my congregation?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. We have to protect the people and the
Speaker 3: citizens of our city first and foremost. A sanctuary city
Speaker 3: is not a sanctuary for innocent families. A sanctuary city
Speaker 3: is a sanctuary for crime and criminals and cartels and corruption.
Speaker 1: Very good. And uh again, if you uh, if you
Speaker 1: want to accept federal funding, then you're kind of beholden
Speaker 1: to what the federal government and their aims are when
Speaker 1: it comes to a situation like immigration and you know,
Speaker 1: fulfilling the law of the land.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, what I would what I would say is
Speaker 3: that what what we learn most about city government is
Speaker 3: that number one, you have to focus on the issues
Speaker 3: that affect the city. We can't copy and paste national
Speaker 3: politics when it comes to our roads, when it comes
Speaker 3: to crime and infrastructure, when it comes to all these
Speaker 3: important things. But it is valuable to have a proper
Speaker 3: relationship with the county, with the state, and with the
Speaker 3: federal and that would be something that we would focus
Speaker 3: on in our mayorship is to be able to have
Speaker 3: the best relationship we could with the federal government, to
Speaker 3: be able to have the help when we need to,
Speaker 3: and to be able to work together to benefit the
Speaker 3: city and the best that we can.
Speaker 1: And finally, Corey Bowman, this is not a running premiere question,
Speaker 1: just a personal question. You are the half brother of
Speaker 1: Vice President JD. Vance and I know your opinion is biased,
Speaker 1: but how do you think your brother's doing so far?
Speaker 3: You know, I'm extremely proud of him. I mean, when
Speaker 3: you read the book that he wrote and we watched
Speaker 3: the movie, you see the background where he came from.
Speaker 3: You know, we share a father, and he came from
Speaker 3: a lot of hard situations. And to be able to
Speaker 3: see somebody no matter what your background is, no matter
Speaker 3: what you're racist, to be able to come from poverty
Speaker 3: and to be able to take yourself up in such
Speaker 3: a short about of time, to be at that level
Speaker 3: of the Vice President of the United States, I couldn't
Speaker 3: be happier and more proud of my older brother as
Speaker 3: a role model. Of mind as a friend of mine
Speaker 3: and to be able to see what lies ahead for
Speaker 3: his future as well.
Speaker 1: Well. I know one thing or another happens. I know
Speaker 1: this just from talking to you in the brief exposure
Speaker 1: I've had with Corey Bowman, is that your future is
Speaker 1: going to be bright, whether you wind up being elected
Speaker 1: mayor of Cincinnati or not. You've got a fourth child
Speaker 1: on the way, You've got a what's becoming from what
Speaker 1: I hear, a pretty successful, big where's your business over
Speaker 1: in the West End. What's it called.
Speaker 3: It's King Darm's Coffee Shop. So I'm the co owner
Speaker 3: of that. One of my good friends from Tampa Cohnes
Speaker 3: and with me, and we've been a I basically sold
Speaker 3: them on Cincinnati. I told him that I believe that
Speaker 3: Cincinnati is the greatest city on earth, and I believe
Speaker 3: that we don't necessarily need to go into the highest
Speaker 3: traffic areas. We need to go in the areas where
Speaker 3: we can make an impact. And that's exactly what we're
Speaker 3: seeing with our coffee shop. We've seen even transformation in
Speaker 3: the last two years from being on the block that
Speaker 3: we're in, and we're going to continue seeing that. So
Speaker 3: it's King's Arm's Coffee Shop and it's right in the
Speaker 3: west end of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: And what's the name of your church.
Speaker 3: It's the River Church, Cincinnati. We're about two blocks away
Speaker 3: from the TQL Soccer Stadium. And we all work to
Speaker 3: all these entities that we're part of works together to
Speaker 3: be able to have outreaches and impact in the community.
Speaker 3: We're actually planning something at the end of each month
Speaker 3: in the summer to be able to help young individuals
Speaker 3: and to be able to provide groceries and other things
Speaker 3: to bless the community.
Speaker 1: Well, have a safe rest of your trip, brother, and
Speaker 1: we will talk to you inever you get time, which
Speaker 1: sounds like almost never.
Speaker 3: No. Thank you so much, Gary Jeff for having me.
Speaker 3: I'll tell everybody if you want to get involved, go
Speaker 3: to Coreybowman dot com at Corybowman dot com Corey without
Speaker 3: an and you can see all the things that we
Speaker 3: stand for in ways that you can get involved there.
Speaker 3: We're planning some major things in June for volunteer opportunities.
Speaker 1: God bless you. Thank you Corey. Coming up next Teddy
Speaker 1: Pierce after news his book De Throne Davos as in
Speaker 1: the Place in the Switzerland, where the World Economic Forum
Speaker 1: and the Globalist tole meet every year to plot against
Speaker 1: us UH and how do we do that? How do
Speaker 1: we dethrone Davos? And what is a shadow cabinet that
Speaker 1: the Democrats are proposing to oppose Donald Trump? All ahead
Speaker 1: on the Scott's Loan Show. Gary Jeffan for Sloaning on
Speaker 1: seven undter wlw Yes, everybody wants to rule the world.
Speaker 1: The world wants to rule us too. Garry Jeffan for
Speaker 1: Scott's Loan seven undter wlw Our next guest is a writer, speaker, author,
Speaker 1: and a commentator who is hell bent on defending America
Speaker 1: against globalist interests. He's written a book called d Throne
Speaker 1: Davos Save America and he is here with us on
Speaker 1: the phone now, Teddy Pierce, good morning, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: How are you hi?
Speaker 2: Am doing great? Thank you for.
Speaker 4: Having me all right?
Speaker 1: Well, so, d Throne Davos, Yes, for the for the
Speaker 1: average person, Davos is this place in Switzerland where the
Speaker 1: muckety MUCKs gather once a year to try and figure
Speaker 1: out how they're going to completely dominate the rest of
Speaker 1: the world. Is that a fair kind of layman's assessment?
Speaker 5: Well, for the average laymen, we need to understand that
Speaker 5: that's exactly what they're doing, although the muckety MUCKs would
Speaker 5: hardly categorize it that way themselves. There of the w
Speaker 5: you see for your safety.
Speaker 1: Well, they know better than us, and that therefore they
Speaker 1: should rule over us like subjects.
Speaker 5: You're you know, we we can look around the world
Speaker 5: and look at these crazy ideas like transhumanism, the idea
Speaker 5: of the fifteen minute city, and of course the joke
Speaker 5: of living in the pod and eating the bugs. But
Speaker 5: you know these, all of these jokes and these things
Speaker 5: that we talk about come from the World Economic Forum
Speaker 5: and their own words. You know, they meet in Davos
Speaker 5: every January and they put out this highly produced promotional
Speaker 5: video that said, we will eat far less meat. It'll
Speaker 5: be an occasional treat and we will we will have
Speaker 5: a lot less autonomy and travel and sovereignty. There will
Speaker 5: be a carbon tax, and of course we will own
Speaker 5: nothing and be happy. And you've got to think it
Speaker 5: takes the audacity of the devil himself to think that
Speaker 5: you should be the sovereign over humanity and make those
Speaker 5: rules for them.
Speaker 1: Oh, there's a proposed legislation in Minnesota. I saw this
Speaker 1: last week where someone there is proposing in their state
Speaker 1: government that they limit how many miles people travel every year.
Speaker 1: In other words, And that's the thing I don't like
Speaker 1: about autonomous vehicles. And you know, things like oh cheez,
Speaker 1: the North Star or whatever it's called that tracks your
Speaker 1: vehicle everywhere. So well, it's for your protection, you know,
Speaker 1: so if you're in an accident or something, they can
Speaker 1: find you. Well, if you're not in an accident, they
Speaker 1: can find you with all the GPS and everything else
Speaker 1: that we have embedded in our vehicles. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: like it. I don't think it's anybody's business how far
Speaker 1: I'm traveling in my car, nor should it be. And
Speaker 1: I don't want them to know where I am any
Speaker 1: given minute of the day. But that's all part of
Speaker 1: this kind of takeover of the sovereignty of our lives.
Speaker 1: And I wish you would speak just for a moment
Speaker 1: about the cashless society and digitizing everything so it can
Speaker 1: be tracked every purchase, every sale. It sounds remarkably to
Speaker 1: me like the mark of the beasts in the Book
Speaker 1: of Revelation, doesn't it.
Speaker 5: It certainly does. And you know, just very quickly. You know,
Speaker 5: the autumn of the car that will drive you anywhere
Speaker 5: you want to go is really great until it locks
Speaker 5: the doors and hauls you over to the police station
Speaker 5: because you wrote a mean tweet, which.
Speaker 1: Or just stop so they can come and get you.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and the cashlest society is exactly that, one of
Speaker 5: these big things and the reason that so much power
Speaker 5: and money and influence have gone into technology because our
Speaker 5: own and sleep many many was the knowledgy is just
Speaker 5: easier we go along with. And of course the end
Speaker 5: of that is the cash society or the central digital currency.
Speaker 5: It's all electronic. There's no printed money, there's no form
Speaker 5: of barter outside of going through mechanisms. Defintely your point
Speaker 5: that they can track and keep total track of, you know,
Speaker 5: if we if we get to that point, there's that
Speaker 5: that is the ultimate goal is you know, and again
Speaker 5: it goes back certainly, these people, uh you know, that
Speaker 5: can go down a lot of rabbit holes.
Speaker 1: Teddy, Teddy, I will tell you we're having a lot
Speaker 1: of trouble. We're having a lot of trouble with your signal.
Speaker 1: It keeps breaking up. I don't know if there's sorry
Speaker 1: anything that we can do to remedy. I tell you what,
Speaker 1: I'm going to take a quick break. I'm going to
Speaker 1: try and reconnect with you, okay, because what you're saying
Speaker 1: is so important. I wanted to come through you know
Speaker 1: what I mean is so absolutely If you would just
Speaker 1: indulge me for a moment, We're going to try and
Speaker 1: reconnect with you more with Teddy Pierce de Throne Davos,
Speaker 1: and wanted to get into the shadow government that Democrats
Speaker 1: like Elisa Sluckin are proposing to counter what the Trump
Speaker 1: administration in the executive branch has been doing in the
Speaker 1: few short months they've been in office. Now trying to
Speaker 1: talk to Teddy Pierce, author of Dethrone Davos, Save America. Teddy,
Speaker 1: are you there?
Speaker 6: Can you hear me now?
Speaker 4: I can.
Speaker 1: This is a Verizon commercial from the nineties. This is great,
Speaker 1: all right, fantastic. Yeah, you're coming in loud and clear.
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you real quickly about these
Speaker 1: protests that we continue to see springing up that are
Speaker 1: antithical to the American way of life, whether it be
Speaker 1: the pro Hamas Free Palestine protest, whether it be Antifa,
Speaker 1: whether it be bom the things that we've seen rise
Speaker 1: up in the last couple of years that are sowing
Speaker 1: chaos and division in our country and in our cities especially.
Speaker 1: Is this a product of the Globalist Are they in
Speaker 1: part funding this to divide and separate us and cause
Speaker 1: this chaos to help bring America down?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 5: You know, one of the things about the global movement
Speaker 5: is they've got to destabilize the West, get us on
Speaker 5: our knees and our hands outstretched for their solutions, you know.
Speaker 5: But they have to do that and destabilize us without
Speaker 5: a complete total societal collapse because then obviously that gives
Speaker 5: too many contingencies and options other than their solutions. So
Speaker 5: we're seeing this delicate balance throughout, you know, throughout the
Speaker 5: West more broadly, but certainly with BLM. People claim to
Speaker 5: be trained Marxists who are running this, and so the
Speaker 5: communism aspect and seeing that slowly creep into almost everything
Speaker 5: that we see around us is certainly part of the plan.
Speaker 5: But it's a part of destabilization again. That's just they're
Speaker 5: willing to use any and every tactic at their disposal
Speaker 5: to make sure that their glorious revolution comes to it.
Speaker 1: In well, they use violence in vandalism and then try
Speaker 1: and claim it's a constitutional right protected by the First Amendment,
Speaker 1: the freedom of speech, freedom of expression. A violence in
Speaker 1: vandalism is not freedom of speech, it's not freedom of expression.
Speaker 1: It's violences and vandalism, and it's it's a criminal act
Speaker 1: and it should be treated as such. But they're trying
Speaker 1: to hide behind the Constitution in a way that seems
Speaker 1: almost unfathomable to me. Moving on the shadow cabinet, I mean,
Speaker 1: we saw what happened under four yard years of a
Speaker 1: shadow presidency, of a shadow administration, a shadow government with
Speaker 1: Joe Biden. It's being more and more revealed. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't have to agree with me, Teddy. I think
Speaker 1: that no matter what you think of Donald Trump and
Speaker 1: his policies, you absolutely know who's in charge of our
Speaker 1: federal government right now. We had absolutely no idea who
Speaker 1: was in charge the four years of Joe Biden, did we.
Speaker 2: Well, they spot on there.
Speaker 5: You certainly know who's in charge now. But under the
Speaker 5: autopen presidency. This is something I talk about in the book,
Speaker 5: is this is where we're where the globalists are trying
Speaker 5: to take us into these heavy, top down, centralized bureaucratic governments,
Speaker 5: and you could just plug and play any politician you
Speaker 5: want to.
Speaker 2: And really, the.
Speaker 5: Quote unquote leader is meant to be a placeholder to
Speaker 5: sell you the globalist agenda and to bring his people
Speaker 5: along with the program and the plan. And I think
Speaker 5: they got the perfect candidate and Joe Biden. And if
Speaker 5: they could have gotten any better candidate, it would have
Speaker 5: been Kamala Harris. So I'm glad that they were foiled there.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, after the failures of the Biden administration
Speaker 1: and her being a part of it, and the fact
Speaker 1: that this woman, Gosh, I don't mean to be mean,
Speaker 1: but you want to talk about an unlikable person an
Speaker 1: unlikable personality and total falseness that just shown through where
Speaker 1: like a five year old could tell this lady's not
Speaker 1: not real. There's nothing about her that is substantive or
Speaker 1: you know, anything that resembles competent. And so they really
Speaker 1: really did they back themselves in the corner by not
Speaker 1: finding a replacement for Biden sooner.
Speaker 5: There were so many things about that they had it's
Speaker 5: almost unimaginable that they were just going to roll the
Speaker 5: dice again and just do the basement strategy again. For
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Well, his aids were talking about rolling them out in
Speaker 1: a wheelchair and pretending it was FDR.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think that they they believed, and this
Speaker 5: is stateside local Democrat politics, believed that they could that
Speaker 5: they could just get away with it, that they were
Speaker 5: going to have enough media coverage, enough of a fog
Speaker 5: of lies inside the DC beltwave that they were going
Speaker 5: to be able to do that and then come up
Speaker 5: with a strategy after you know, the second term Biden's
Speaker 5: re election, then they were going to come up with
Speaker 5: strategy and the clock ran out on them.
Speaker 1: Now what's his shadow? What's his shadow cabinet? That Alice
Speaker 1: Slotkin was proposing the Center for Michigan shadow.
Speaker 5: You know, it is amazing, uh that Well, the epitaph
Speaker 5: on the on the tombstone of conservatism is gonna it's
Speaker 5: gonna say, imagine if the shoe were on the other foot,
Speaker 5: always saying imagine if the if the Republican did what
Speaker 5: the Democrats did.
Speaker 2: But it again.
Speaker 5: Just shows you an immense amount of audacity on their
Speaker 5: part to say we control the narrative and we're the
Speaker 5: good guys, and anybody who opposes us or the bad guys,
Speaker 5: and so this is not this is actually freedom of
Speaker 5: liberty and democracy to even have a news article, much
Speaker 5: less in reality if these people think that they are
Speaker 5: the stalwarts defending the government by openly opposing the government.
Speaker 5: So it's just amazing. But again, this is this hubris
Speaker 5: that goes back to these people feel so protected by
Speaker 5: a narrative driver and as long as they show up
Speaker 5: and play cabal, they think that they're going to get
Speaker 5: that coverage and that power that comes with siding with
Speaker 5: globalism and pretending that that's just the inevitable march of
Speaker 5: the future.
Speaker 1: Another aspect of the globalism that you're right about in
Speaker 1: Dethrone Davos, isn't it also depopulation. Bill Gates famously talked
Speaker 1: about this. He thought that the world really only needed
Speaker 1: about five hundred five hundred billion people, maybe five hundred
Speaker 1: million people, and that would be a goal to reach,
Speaker 1: so depopulation, and you've seen America is having less babies
Speaker 1: than ever before. And all of this is part of
Speaker 1: the agenda, right.
Speaker 7: It is.
Speaker 5: And you know, earlier I was saying you can go
Speaker 5: down many rabbit holes. But really this comes back to
Speaker 5: the concept of the banality of evil. This idea that
Speaker 5: when evil manifests itself, certainly in this managerial governmental way,
Speaker 5: it's just people following orders, right, And it's if you
Speaker 5: look at if you look at us as humanity through
Speaker 5: the lens of being barcodes, and they're the people who
Speaker 5: should manage the store, then all of a sudden, a
Speaker 5: lot of their ideas and transhumanism and getting in the
Speaker 5: pod and eating the bugs makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 5: And so that's the depopulation part of that is is
Speaker 5: just a sheer part of management on their part. What
Speaker 5: sounds good, what looks right, and then what different ways
Speaker 5: can we manipulate the population into reducing them their own
Speaker 5: population through this idea of social normality. If we can
Speaker 5: create this sense that it's just socially normal to have
Speaker 5: a decreasing population, then all of a sudden, there's no
Speaker 5: there's no more conspiracy, right.
Speaker 6: There's nothing to point to, there's no smoking gun.
Speaker 5: It's just the way that it is.
Speaker 2: Well, if which is a whole plant all along, if.
Speaker 1: There's only five hundred million people left on the planet,
Speaker 1: there were a lot easier to control too.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, all right, David.
Speaker 1: Scarlett, thank you, So, I mean, David Scarlett Teddy Pierce,
Speaker 1: take you for your time. I'm all discombobulated. Now you've
Speaker 1: got me thinking about these globalist oligarchs, as Bernice Sanders
Speaker 1: would say, controlling everything, and it's it's been on my
Speaker 1: mind for quite a while. But you can read all
Speaker 1: about it in Dethrone Davos, Save America. Is it possible?
Speaker 1: Does a book end on a hopeful note?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 5: Yes, you know, my My main thrust is that we
Speaker 5: need to wake up. We need to clearly identify the
Speaker 5: enemy who's trying to stay masked on purpose and stay
Speaker 5: as a as a hidden group of people that are
Speaker 5: But I have a lot of hope in so many
Speaker 5: of the sovereignty movements that you see popping up, America
Speaker 5: First Movement being pre eminent among those. But if we
Speaker 5: are able to understand that we're living through a scio
Speaker 5: and that we can pull back from this narrative that
Speaker 5: so many people are waking up to, and we can
Speaker 5: come around and reclaim what it is that our country
Speaker 5: was founded on. It's a shared humanity. If we can
Speaker 5: reclaim our shared humanity from these technocratic overlords, we have
Speaker 5: a great hope of maintaining our sovereignty. And our freedom
Speaker 5: for generations to come.
Speaker 1: All right, fantastic, Thank you so much for your time
Speaker 1: this morning. Our next guest is David Scarlett. I kind
Speaker 1: of jumped ahead of myself there. Dude was dead. This
Speaker 1: is what he says. He was dead and God told
Speaker 1: him that his report card was empty. He had work
Speaker 1: to do back on Earth and sent him back. He
Speaker 1: is a marine, a former marine. He's been a very
Speaker 1: successful businessman and today he runs an organization called for
Speaker 1: His Glory. There's a capital on the h He is
Speaker 1: a pastor. And we'll be talking to David Scarlet about
Speaker 1: many things, but his story just fast. The first time
Speaker 1: I heard him tell the story fascinated me. Be careful
Speaker 1: what you eat. He had a coney and it apparently
Speaker 1: had bachelism in it and sent him to the hospital
Speaker 1: and he was dead and then he wasn't dead. And
Speaker 1: he'll be next after news. Gary jeff In forsloone on
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 8: Do you want to be an American?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Gary jeff In for slone, Monday, June second, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five. How you be I'd be fine. Well, thank
Speaker 1: you for asking. As I mentioned before the news break,
Speaker 1: Our next guest is these days a pastor in his history,
Speaker 1: a marine, a very successful businessman, and these days chairman
Speaker 1: and founder of His Glory Ministry, is a Christian outreach
Speaker 1: and creator of the film Battle at the Border, and
Speaker 1: the author of All for His Glory, The near death
Speaker 1: Experience of a modern day job. The one and only
Speaker 1: David Scarlett. It's been a while since we last spoke, David,
Speaker 1: but it's good to talk to you again. How are you.
Speaker 8: Wonderful?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 8: Thank you for having me again.
Speaker 1: You bet, just for people, for people's edification if they
Speaker 1: never heard the story. Give me the brief, you know,
Speaker 1: readers digest condensed version of your story that went from
Speaker 1: a from a cooney to a coma, to death and
Speaker 1: then back to life. What happened?
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, So, as you said, I was a marine,
Speaker 8: and I rose the rank of the corporate world as
Speaker 8: in structor of three forty one company had all the fame,
Speaker 8: fortune and big head money, and it was empty. And
Speaker 8: then on seven seven traven, I ate some chili that
Speaker 8: had botchels and toxin in it. Long story short. By
Speaker 8: Friday the thirteenth, I was done. A breathing machine died
Speaker 8: three times, saw heaven Lord came sent me back after
Speaker 8: seeing my report card was not complete, and he wanted
Speaker 8: me to start a ministry called by his name, His Glory,
Speaker 8: And today we reached twenty five million people in every
Speaker 8: country of the world.
Speaker 1: That's fantastic. What a story, What a story. What was
Speaker 1: it like being with the Lord in heaven.
Speaker 8: I've always wondered, absolutely perfection, just unbelievable, unconditional love. Just
Speaker 8: to shalom, the piece that you can only get from there.
Speaker 8: Everything was your sentence, senses are heightened, everything looks better,
Speaker 8: sees better, like TVs, that technology we've never seen here
Speaker 8: on Earth, music that's never played on Earth's absolutely beautiful
Speaker 8: and just just that overwhelming a piece of just unconditional love.
Speaker 8: It was truly perfection.
Speaker 1: So it's not just it's not floating on a cloud
Speaker 1: or something. It's it's just total sensory overload, is what
Speaker 1: you're saying.
Speaker 8: Total sensory overload. And what have it or God has
Speaker 8: in store for us when we get to heaven is
Speaker 8: beyond anybody can imagine. It's not going to be those
Speaker 8: days where you just lay in a cloud and just
Speaker 8: pass your day away. We're outside of time and space,
Speaker 8: you know, when I died. I think I was clinically
Speaker 8: dead three times for about three to four minutes, but
Speaker 8: it seemed like I was outside of time, just the
Speaker 8: ones that I saw my pictures and probably was like
Speaker 8: forty to forty five minutes to slideshow. The Lord showed
Speaker 8: me of heaven, so we will not be bored in heaven.
Speaker 8: It will be beyond our wildest imagination and follow our heart.
Speaker 8: Lord will follow us with our heart.
Speaker 1: Well that's fantastic. I really can't wait now. I mean
Speaker 1: so recently, it's just been a little over a week ago.
Speaker 1: There was a there was a Christian rally basically, this
Speaker 1: Christian rally was in Seattle, uh And and what was
Speaker 1: the Christian rally there? Rallying for and about? Let's set
Speaker 1: the stage there.
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, it was about love. It was a counter protest,
Speaker 8: if you will, showing love instead of violence. And that
Speaker 8: it was so bad. I don't know how much the
Speaker 8: media it's picked up, but they were taking urine balloons
Speaker 8: and throwing into at Christians just to start start a riot.
Speaker 8: And this is something they want to do in every
Speaker 8: city in the nation. We saw a terrorist attack this
Speaker 8: weekend in Colorado. Yeah, that's what the that's what they
Speaker 8: have planned. They want to have a Summer of love
Speaker 8: two point zero going into the summer.
Speaker 1: Who are there? Who are they?
Speaker 8: David, Well, we're gonna have to follow the money. My
Speaker 8: guess is strong guess with a lot of evidence behind it.
Speaker 8: At the George Sorow's pack that want to break up
Speaker 8: and create the vision in our country that Washington DC
Speaker 8: assassination is tied to all this too, that go went
Speaker 8: back to Chicago. So with fole the money, we're going
Speaker 8: to see that he's the big deep State is funding
Speaker 8: this to cause division two point zero to try to
Speaker 8: stop President Trump and everything he's doing.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I hate to interrupt a serious conversation about
Speaker 1: something that's really important, But are you hanging out with cows?
Speaker 4: I literally am.
Speaker 8: I'm on the ranch and I got on nine cows
Speaker 8: that have come up defeeding time.
Speaker 1: They are very vocal. It's something that I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the cow in the room. I can't ignore, David.
Speaker 8: So it's dinner time.
Speaker 1: The mayor of Seattle, in the wake of this, blamed
Speaker 1: the Christians for the violence that was directed at them, right,
Speaker 1: that's correct.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they want to steer that blame. See Christians are
Speaker 8: always the center of their attack because if the Christians fall,
Speaker 8: they know the rest of the rest of the United
Speaker 8: States book fall too, because we're they only want the
Speaker 8: remnant Christians that are willing to stand up for our
Speaker 8: Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. You know, we saw that
Speaker 8: in January sixth. We did two films on January sixth
Speaker 8: with Nick Sercy, common theme with Christians and former military patriots.
Speaker 8: That's who they wanted to break down.
Speaker 1: Well, that's who they many times went over in the
Speaker 1: arrests after January sixth. I mean there were Christian grandmothers
Speaker 1: and former sheriffs and former service members who happened to
Speaker 1: be in the crowd that day that the Department of
Speaker 1: Justice under Joe Biden targeted to be rounded up and
Speaker 1: eventually put into prison and gulags in Washington, d c.
Speaker 1: Simply for being supporters of Donald Trump. And they committed
Speaker 1: no violent acts, but yet they were tracked down like
Speaker 1: they were public enemy number one in many cases.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, we show that in our two movies Capital Punishment
Speaker 8: and The War on Truth. Moore is going to come
Speaker 8: out January sixth is going to boomerang back the true
Speaker 8: instigators of January sixth, Justice will be coming. I expect
Speaker 8: we'll see something big this summer. And that's another reason
Speaker 8: why they want to do divisions and riots two point oh,
Speaker 8: to keep our eye away from what the truth is
Speaker 8: about to be exposed.
Speaker 1: All right, So you have confidence, full confidence that Pam
Speaker 1: Bondy and Cash Mattel and the rest of the Trump
Speaker 1: administration are going to get to the root of all
Speaker 1: of this and point these people out and call them
Speaker 1: on the carpet and bring justice finally for American patrons.
Speaker 8: Well, Pam, Pam BONDI I'm not sure. I don't have
Speaker 8: a personal relationship with Pam. I don't know her, But
Speaker 8: with Cash Betel, I do. And I know Cash is
Speaker 8: he's not going for revenge, He's going for justice, and
Speaker 8: they'll let the chips follow the a And I have
Speaker 8: no doubt Cash is going to hold him accountable and
Speaker 8: we're going to see some big, big things coming in
Speaker 8: the next days to week.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the terror attack in Boulder, Colorado last night.
Speaker 1: I was on the air last night immediately in the
Speaker 1: aftermath of this and had Sane Rosenbaum on about these
Speaker 1: kind of attacks, these anti Semitic attacks. But this guy
Speaker 1: was an illegal immigrant. He was given a visa guest
Speaker 1: visa in twenty two. I guess that expired in twenty three,
Speaker 1: he was still in the country. He was an Egyptian national.
Speaker 1: He yelled free Palestine as he threw a molotov cocktail
Speaker 1: into a group of people who were protesting to Jewish
Speaker 1: people who were protesting to get the hostages released of Gaza.
Speaker 1: And now he is in facing federal and local charges
Speaker 1: there in Denver, and it looks looks like they've got
Speaker 1: him dead to rights. But how many of these people
Speaker 1: are still left in our country after the open border policy.
Speaker 8: Well, unfortunately that is is a far worse. We have
Speaker 8: in the top forty cities, we have cells, Heasles cells
Speaker 8: and Homas cells that are just waiting for a communication
Speaker 8: by the Ayatola to be activated. What their goal is
Speaker 8: a like a nine to eleven type event, and ten
Speaker 8: or more cities at the same time. So this is
Speaker 8: not We pray for intervention if somebody sees something to
Speaker 8: say something, but they are not stopping. Like I said,
Speaker 8: this is going to be the Summer Love two point
Speaker 8: zero without the love, just pure hate. And we see
Speaker 8: this money it's coming in from the Middle East. So again,
Speaker 8: follow the money. We're going to find out how this
Speaker 8: is all connected. We have to shut off the money.
Speaker 1: Did it make you a little bit hesitant when Donald
Speaker 1: Trump was on his business trip to the Middle East
Speaker 1: and meeting with the Katari and some of these other
Speaker 1: people in Saudi Arabia and the like, We're uh, much
Speaker 1: of this is being funded from they give you and
Speaker 1: it's kind of troubling.
Speaker 3: Yeh does give you a bit of pause.
Speaker 8: Because President Trump he's a businessman and he thinks you
Speaker 8: can solve these things with you know, the art of
Speaker 8: the deal, a business deal. Well, that might work with
Speaker 8: Saudi Arabia because they're not as extreme as to Iotola
Speaker 8: of Iran. But when he had told of Iran, he
Speaker 8: is so fundamentally they believe that if they had used
Speaker 8: a nuclear weapon against big Satan, the United States, a
Speaker 8: little Satan Israel, that they're twelfth Milehadi will come back.
Speaker 8: So it's not if they'll use a nuclear weapon when
Speaker 8: they get it, they will, and that's a danger and
Speaker 8: no peace deal is going to get that. And the
Speaker 8: cron is called a hudnah. It's a false piece until
Speaker 8: they can restore up their weapons to overcome their enemy.
Speaker 8: So it's a real threat.
Speaker 1: Well, David Scarlett, I appreciate your time, and it was
Speaker 1: good to hear from your cows.
Speaker 8: They'll send their best.
Speaker 1: Well I think I can smell it. Listen, listen, have
Speaker 1: a fantastic day, and remind everybody again about your fantastic book.
Speaker 2: For His Glory, All for His Glory.
Speaker 8: You can get that at ww His Glory dot. How
Speaker 8: he took the least likely person on the face of
Speaker 8: the earth and started a ministry called by his name,
Speaker 8: and everybody listened. Today you have a call I'll purpose
Speaker 8: from the big thing guy upstairs to be activated for
Speaker 8: such a time as this.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, hopefully one day I'll see you in heaven.
Speaker 2: Yes amen, all right, brother, thank you.
Speaker 1: So much, Pastor David Scarlett. So coming up next, we
Speaker 1: were talking about this cashlest society last half hour with
Speaker 1: Teddy Pierce, the de Throne, Davo Sky and how I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I want to report card how many places do
Speaker 1: not accept cash anymore. It's a growing number of places,
Speaker 1: and it really bothers me and I prefer not to
Speaker 1: patronize those places.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: Red's game Bengals game college football so if you've got
Speaker 1: what was it a taste of Belgium, I don't think
Speaker 1: takes money anymore? And it says writ on the note,
Speaker 1: it says this every bill that you've got. What's the
Speaker 1: small prince say? This note is legal tender for all
Speaker 1: debts public and private, but apparently not at those places.
Speaker 1: So give me some reports of places that do not
Speaker 1: accept cash. Five three, seven the big one we will
Speaker 1: discuss in a moment after the break on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: It's been a pet peeve and I worry of mine
Speaker 1: for quite a while, the cashless society and people not
Speaker 1: accepting what says plainly legal tender. This note is legal
Speaker 1: tender for all debts public and private. US A right there?
Speaker 1: Why won't you accept it? Alan and Cole Rain who
Speaker 1: didn't wish to stay on the line, I guess said
Speaker 1: Whitewater Express car wash. It's one of those plays. My
Speaker 1: friend Pat Donolan writes new Rift Distillery no cash, So
Speaker 1: Bob and Westchester as a report too, Bob, what place
Speaker 1: doesn't accept money anymore?
Speaker 9: There's a high end cookie store on Red Bank Road
Speaker 9: that does not take cash.
Speaker 2: It's called cookie Plug.
Speaker 1: Cookie plug sounds dirty.
Speaker 4: It does sound dirty.
Speaker 9: But I went in there one day and ordered up
Speaker 9: fifty dollars with the cookies to take back to the
Speaker 9: office for people at work. Yeah, and I had a
Speaker 9: handful of cash, and the girl that works he said, oh,
Speaker 9: I'm sorry, Oh, we don't take cash.
Speaker 2: So I said, well, you can stick your cookies up
Speaker 2: your ask.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, okay, now that Bob made it dirty. I'm
Speaker 1: sure there are legitimate reasons why businesses cannot or do
Speaker 1: not accept cash. I would just like to know what
Speaker 1: they are. If you get a person, i'd say usually
Speaker 1: under thirty, like as a bartender. I've noticed this. The
Speaker 1: younger the person, the less likely they are to carry
Speaker 1: money around. I don't know if it's a safety thing
Speaker 1: or just a convenience thing. Oh it's easy, I'll just
Speaker 1: put it on my card. I have my debit card,
Speaker 1: I got my PayPal, I've got my phone. I what
Speaker 1: troubles me is it's not an option at places, and
Speaker 1: it should always be an option in America that they
Speaker 1: accept a legitimate form of payment. Hello Danny, Yeah, this
Speaker 1: has been a while back.
Speaker 10: I got into a station in Coraine to Coraine and Gabareith. Yeah,
Speaker 10: gas station and build up my tank or what it
Speaker 10: went in. And there's a big sign up on sort
Speaker 10: up by the ceiling. No fifty dollars bills. Well, open
Speaker 10: my wallet, and that's what I had.
Speaker 1: You know what, if it's a denomination, I more understand
Speaker 1: that than just not accepting the green stuff at all.
Speaker 4: I mean, if it's right, but that's a legal tender.
Speaker 10: It was a big argument, you know.
Speaker 4: I told him.
Speaker 10: He said he was going to call the cops. I said,
Speaker 10: go ahead, I'm standing here trying.
Speaker 2: To pay you with legal tender.
Speaker 4: And he finally took it, but throwing behind me.
Speaker 1: It probably was a situation where maybe maybe he didn't
Speaker 1: have the change for a fifty I don't know, there
Speaker 1: have been.
Speaker 10: Times that's a distinct possibility. That's a very busy guess
Speaker 10: station he had to change. I wasn't right it and
Speaker 10: he pulled it right out.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, yeah, that's that's different than not accepting cash
Speaker 1: at all. Greg and Wilmington, what you got?
Speaker 9: Yes, King's Island doesn't accept cash.
Speaker 2: You can't buy coke there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see. I think that's ridiculous. We're the home
Speaker 1: of the Reds, but I think it's ridiculous that Major
Speaker 1: League baseball stadiums don't accept cash anywhere for anything. Same
Speaker 1: way with the Bengals, same thing with a lot of
Speaker 1: professional sports franchises not accepting money legal tender, as I said.
Speaker 1: And the thing that here's the thing that troubles me
Speaker 1: Greg and we were talking about this with Teddy Pierce
Speaker 1: and the globalist agenda, is if every purchase, every sale,
Speaker 1: every purchase that you make or I make, has to
Speaker 1: be digital, has to be there has to be a
Speaker 1: record to it. It means that it can be tracked,
Speaker 1: and frankly, it is nobody else's business, not the banks,
Speaker 1: not the governments. For sure, what I buy or sell,
Speaker 1: as long as it's a legal product, it's nobody's business
Speaker 1: how much money I spend or don't spend on something.
Speaker 1: And if everything is on your card, then there is
Speaker 1: a record of it. I'm not trying to evade or
Speaker 1: avoid taxes. I'm not trying to do anything illegal. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to pay for things. And it's my business.
Speaker 1: It's no one else's business, not the banks, not the government,
Speaker 1: not the credit card companies. My business. And the closer
Speaker 1: we come to a cashless society, the closer we all
Speaker 1: come to being controlled and tracked by whatever entity is
Speaker 1: actually controlling that digital account. Does that kind of make
Speaker 1: it clearer? Why? As I mentioned, we know now that
Speaker 1: the forty five year old Egyptian national who was in
Speaker 1: this country illegally committed a firebombing of Jewish protesters in Boulder,
Speaker 1: Colorado yesterday, screaming Free Palestine before lighting people on fire.
Speaker 1: How much crime by illegals in this country goes unreported?
Speaker 1: John Lott from the Crime Research Prevention Research Center is
Speaker 1: our guest next, and we'll talk about what maybe your
Speaker 1: local officials aren't reporting and what federal officials haven't been
Speaker 1: reporting up to this point before a new regime took hold.
Speaker 1: At the FBI, Gary Jeff for Sloane on seven hundred WLW,
Speaker 1: the forty five year old Egyptian national arrested last night
Speaker 1: in Boulder, Colorado and taken to the hospital because he
Speaker 1: actually burned himself while he was busy burning protesters who
Speaker 1: had gathered together at a mall. As you just heard
Speaker 1: on the news. It may have heard this over the
Speaker 1: last twenty four hours or so since the story broke again,
Speaker 1: was in this country illegally, and of the anti Semitic
Speaker 1: attacks that have occurred in America on US soil. They're
Speaker 1: up eight hundred and ninety three percent over the last
Speaker 1: ten years. Many of them have been committed by people
Speaker 1: who are in this country illegally, by people who are
Speaker 1: not American citizens. And there's plenty of American citizens that
Speaker 1: are knuckleheads. Believe me, I know. We certainly didn't need
Speaker 1: to recruit millions more as we did for four years
Speaker 1: under the Biden administration. How many criminal attacks by illegal
Speaker 1: immigrants really go on in this country. We're led to
Speaker 1: believe that it's a very very small percentage of immigrants
Speaker 1: or migrants or whatever, the illegals that commit crime. How
Speaker 1: about somebody who actually does the number crunching, who knows
Speaker 1: the facts, who has the data, although sometimes the data
Speaker 1: can be very evasive, as we will discuss. He is
Speaker 1: the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center. His name
Speaker 1: is John Lott, and he is our guest right now.
Speaker 1: John Lott, it's great to welcome you back to the show.
Speaker 1: Gary Jeffen for Scott Sloan and the floor is yours,
Speaker 1: my friend. How are you good?
Speaker 4: Doing great? Thanks for having me on again. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Oh always love to have you on because you've got
Speaker 1: good information, and there's very little of that that's being
Speaker 1: disseminated in the mainstream legacy media. Because we're told over
Speaker 1: and over again by all the usual subspects and the
Speaker 1: alphabet networks and the like that illegal immigrants really commit
Speaker 1: very very small amounts of crime in this country. And
Speaker 1: the question is, when so much goes under reported, how
Speaker 1: do they know that?
Speaker 4: Right? Right?
Speaker 7: Right, Well, there's real problems with the data as it's
Speaker 7: recorded by the federal government. But you know, the bottom
Speaker 7: line is that a lot of people when they talk
Speaker 7: about migrant crime, what they're doing is they're mixing together
Speaker 7: two very different groups of people. They're putting together legal
Speaker 7: migrants who actually do commit crime at relatively will rates
Speaker 7: compared to the rest of the US population, and illegals
Speaker 7: who commit crime at very high rates compared to the
Speaker 7: rest of the population. You know, there's even data put
Speaker 7: out last year by the Biden administration.
Speaker 4: They wre a couple months before the election.
Speaker 7: They noted that there was about seven point four millions
Speaker 7: so called non detained individuals illegals that had come into
Speaker 7: their end of the country, almost all who had voluntarily
Speaker 7: turned themselves.
Speaker 4: In at the border.
Speaker 7: Who had been released into the country, and the Biden
Speaker 7: administration acknowledged.
Speaker 4: That about six hundred and sixty.
Speaker 7: Two thousand of them, or nine percent, had criminal records. Now,
Speaker 7: there's good reason to believe that the government missed a
Speaker 7: lot of the criminal records. I mean, for one, many
Speaker 7: home countries would not cooperate in providing on whether they
Speaker 7: had it. But even more importantly, it only really has
Speaker 7: data on people who voluntarily turned themselves in at the
Speaker 7: b and those are probably the ones you should be
Speaker 7: least concerned about, even though a large number of those
Speaker 7: nine percent is a big number there for having criminal
Speaker 7: records that we know. So we know that during the
Speaker 7: Biden administration, there's about there was over two million still
Speaker 7: called guideways individuals that we saw coming across the border
Speaker 7: but we didn't catch, and then there's millions more that
Speaker 7: we never even saw coming across the border. We had
Speaker 7: over seventy five percent of the border agents who normally
Speaker 7: would be guarding the border have been pulled off of
Speaker 7: that job and had instead been used to process the
Speaker 7: illegals that were coming through.
Speaker 4: And then on top of.
Speaker 7: That, the passive monitoring equipment that we had along the border,
Speaker 7: the Biden administration acknowledged a couple months before the election
Speaker 7: last year that thirty percent of it was broken and
Speaker 7: that they had never fixed it. So you had large
Speaker 7: portions of the order where you had people who wanted
Speaker 7: not to be seen coming across, and those are probably
Speaker 7: very likely to be criminals. That we have no idea
Speaker 7: how many more millions we're coming into the country. That
Speaker 7: nine for many reasons, is an underestimate of the problem.
Speaker 1: But well, here, John, do you does does nine percent
Speaker 1: of the natural born American population commit crime?
Speaker 4: No, it's it's less than that.
Speaker 7: I mean, it depends on what group that you have,
Speaker 7: but it's going to be about two thirds of that.
Speaker 1: So to even say that only nine percent of immigrants,
Speaker 1: and they're just as you said, confusing the issue between
Speaker 1: legal immigrants.
Speaker 4: And these these are illegal immigrants.
Speaker 1: Okay, but but again, a lot of the crime that
Speaker 1: is committed by illegal immigrants goes unreported because the crime
Speaker 1: is perpetrated against other illegal immigrants, and they're afraid to
Speaker 1: report this crime because they don't want to be subject
Speaker 1: of an ice rate or subject to deportion.
Speaker 7: Correct, right, Well, I mean people tend, criminals tend to
Speaker 7: commit crimes against individuals who are similar to them in
Speaker 7: socio economic status and everything else. They tend to live
Speaker 7: in groups. Illegals tend to live in relatively concentrated areas.
Speaker 4: And so you have, you know, just.
Speaker 7: Like Hispanics generally commit crime against other, Hispanics or blacks
Speaker 7: commit crimes against other.
Speaker 1: We heard, we hear, we hear the term, we hear
Speaker 1: the term black on black violence so often. And it's right,
Speaker 1: it's true because.
Speaker 7: Murders of blacks or by other blacks, for example, and
Speaker 7: you have similar percentages for Hispanics and what have you.
Speaker 7: But so, but there are many reasons to think that
Speaker 7: we don't have even saying that that there's not good
Speaker 7: data on the crime that they commit. In the United States,
Speaker 7: I'll give you one example. If you look at the
Speaker 7: KNXT background check system. These are the background check systems
Speaker 7: that you have to go through to purchase a gun.
Speaker 7: Only American citizens and those who are legal residents who
Speaker 7: are legal immigrants in the United States are legally allowed
Speaker 7: to go and buy guns. And yet it's very easy
Speaker 7: to find many news stories where the where you had
Speaker 7: illegals in one case recently in Ohio, and illegal had
Speaker 7: bought something like one hundred and forty guns and had
Speaker 7: never come up in the next background check system. Is
Speaker 7: being prohibited person because he was in the country illegally.
Speaker 7: You know, the Biden administration, when they release people into
Speaker 7: the country, they're supposed to take their DNA and they
Speaker 7: didn't do that at all really in the vast majority
Speaker 7: of cases. And in many cases the Biden administration, you know,
Speaker 7: they could put down anything for a name or whatever,
Speaker 7: and the buy An administration would just accept that that
Speaker 7: was their real name, no way of identifying them in
Speaker 7: any way, and it makes it very difficult for ice
Speaker 7: to go and apprehend these individuals in the United States
Speaker 7: and to make sure that they're having the right person.
Speaker 7: It really slows down the process a lot. But look,
Speaker 7: there's many other pieces of data that we have on this. Unfortunately,
Speaker 7: police or states have not been collecting data on prisoners
Speaker 7: shares that are illegals. Arizona has some data on this.
Speaker 7: Maricopa County District Attorney, for example, found that something like
Speaker 7: about twenty four percent of the violent felons who were
Speaker 7: convicted in the county that's for Phoenix were illegals. That's
Speaker 7: well more than twice their share of the state population.
Speaker 7: There was data done for the County Prosecutors Association in
Speaker 7: Arizona on the state prison population, and illegals were about
Speaker 7: one hundred and forty two percent more likely to be
Speaker 7: overrepresented in the state prison population than their share of
Speaker 7: the population there. Legal immigrants were relatively had a relatively
Speaker 7: low share, But you can look at things like they
Speaker 7: were forty percent more likely eagles, forty percent more likely
Speaker 7: to be members of gangs. They were much more likely
Speaker 7: to be convicted of murders, of rapes, of sexual assaults,
Speaker 7: of drug trafficking, or some other types of crimes like
Speaker 7: human trafficking.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, here's the thing, isn't it a psychological
Speaker 1: kind of a dumb moment when you think about human nature?
Speaker 1: When the first thing you do entering this country is
Speaker 1: to illegally avoid detection or to break the law. By
Speaker 1: entering illegally, you're already a criminal. So if you're flouting
Speaker 1: the law with your first foot stepping inside the country,
Speaker 1: aren't you more prone to break other laws once you're here?
Speaker 1: I mean, it just kind of makes sense.
Speaker 7: To me, right Well, I mean, I think there's something
Speaker 7: to that, and particularly for those who are trying to
Speaker 7: sneak into the country. Yeah, you know, they have a
Speaker 7: reason for trying to avoid being caught by the border patrol.
Speaker 7: They're the ones who look during the Buid administration, if
Speaker 7: you came across the border and you turn yourself into
Speaker 7: the border patrol, they give you a credit card which
Speaker 7: already had like twenty five hundred dollars on it. They
Speaker 7: provide you with food and housing, they'd fly you around
Speaker 7: to whatever part of the country you wanted to go to.
Speaker 7: They'd give you work permits, and a social security number.
Speaker 7: The Buide administration apparently gave.
Speaker 4: Something like four and a half.
Speaker 7: Million individuals so security numbers, which great problems for things
Speaker 7: like vote fraud and other issues that are there.
Speaker 4: So there are.
Speaker 7: All sorts of benefits for turning yourself in and not
Speaker 7: trying to avoid being caught, you know. And yet even
Speaker 7: with those you're talking about like nine percent, and for
Speaker 7: the reasons we mentioned, even that number is a big underestimate.
Speaker 7: Whereas the ones who avoided it, you know, it's probably
Speaker 7: a very high rate of those who had criminal backgrounds.
Speaker 7: I mean, you found during those so called non detained individuals,
Speaker 7: about fifteen thousand of them over fifteen thousand had been
Speaker 7: either convicted of murder most of them had been convicted
Speaker 7: of murder in their home countries or at least charged
Speaker 7: with murder but had fled the country before they could
Speaker 7: be caught and punished. So you know, he had a
Speaker 7: serious crime that was occurring for even the ones that
Speaker 7: we know about.
Speaker 4: And one also has to know that a.
Speaker 7: Lot of these countries, like in South America and Latin America,
Speaker 7: you know, Central America, the murder rates in those countries
Speaker 7: has just been astronomical. I mean, you have countries where
Speaker 7: the official murder rates in Venezuela has been like sixty
Speaker 7: per hundred thousand. Others estimate that it's over one hundred
Speaker 7: per hundred thousand. You have parts of Mexico where the
Speaker 7: murder rates in some states are over one hundred per
Speaker 7: one hundred thousand.
Speaker 4: You have.
Speaker 7: El Salvadora, up until the last six or seven years,
Speaker 7: has had one of the highest murder rates in the world,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 4: So what happens is is that.
Speaker 7: The rate that people are arrested and prosecuted and get
Speaker 7: a criminal record in many these countries is incredibly small.
Speaker 4: So you know, even when the.
Speaker 7: Country and of course countries like Venezuela wouldn't cooperate or
Speaker 7: Cuba wouldn't cooperate with the government in terms of trying
Speaker 7: to check the criminal records for these people. Plus you're
Speaker 7: relying on the Bien administration to have accurately recorded these things.
Speaker 7: And there's reasons to believe that even for the countries
Speaker 7: that would cooperate, they just didn't even check to see
Speaker 7: whether many of those so called non detained individuals had
Speaker 7: criminal records.
Speaker 4: We all in their home countries.
Speaker 1: We all want to believe in a second chance, and
Speaker 1: we want to believe in rehabilitations. John Lott. But at
Speaker 1: the Crime Prevention Research Center, what are the numbers on
Speaker 1: recidivism of violent crime? It's the same people over and
Speaker 1: over again, basically, isn't it. I mean, these illegals who
Speaker 1: are committing crime are you know, they have rap sheets
Speaker 1: bigger than then their bodies, and they just keep committing
Speaker 1: the crimes over and over again. So the recidivism rate's
Speaker 1: pretty high too, isn't it.
Speaker 7: If you look at violent crime, the five year recidivism
Speaker 7: rate's going to be about seventy percent or so. Yeah,
Speaker 7: you know, one of the things you have to realize
Speaker 7: is that a lot of people who commit crimes are
Speaker 7: never caught. You look at the arrest rate in cities
Speaker 7: over a million, for example, for violent crimes in twenty
Speaker 7: twenty two, it was only twenty percent, Only one in
Speaker 7: five violent crimes in the cities over a million, They're
Speaker 7: nine of those cities resulted in arrest, let alone conviction.
Speaker 7: So and you look at some types of crimes like rape,
Speaker 7: it's even much lower. You look at people who are
Speaker 7: involved in gang activity, their rest rates tend to be
Speaker 7: even lower than it is for the average. It's more
Speaker 7: difficult to catch and convict gang members, and it is
Speaker 7: others that commit violent crime.
Speaker 1: This is very eye opening, John. I'm sorry we got
Speaker 1: to go a time is limited. You are with the
Speaker 1: Crime Prevention Research Center, and you always have such great
Speaker 1: information because that's all you do. You compile the actual
Speaker 1: stats and shine a light on things that are hidden
Speaker 1: from most of us most of the time by legacy
Speaker 1: media and by the official government. But I'm glad you're
Speaker 1: there doing the work you're doing. And the next time
Speaker 1: anybody hears that illegal immigrants in this country commit less
Speaker 1: crime than American citizens, think twice.
Speaker 7: Not so fast, right, people can find more and the
Speaker 7: sources for the data on our website at crime research
Speaker 7: dot org.
Speaker 4: Crimeresearch dot org.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you so much, John, appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: Coming up next, Todd Sheets, and then Dave Hatter will
Speaker 1: close things out. Gary Jeff In for Sloane today on
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: Do you want to be an American?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 1: Howdy, Hey, hell let's go Gary Jeff Walker and for
Speaker 1: Scott Sloan on this Monday morning. Another hour left before
Speaker 1: you to our next guest, Todd Sheets, standing by to
Speaker 1: talk about the big beautiful bill which is going to
Speaker 1: the Senate this week. If you live in the Newport
Speaker 1: area or you go down Carruthers Road, have you noticed
Speaker 1: the traffic jam that is now almost constantly in front
Speaker 1: of the shopping center where the Aldies is and Spectrum
Speaker 1: is and anyway the Burlington places. There's this coffee shop
Speaker 1: that opened up a couple of weeks ago, and there's
Speaker 1: always this insane line waiting to get into the drive through.
Speaker 1: It blocks off portions of Carrothers Road coming up from
Speaker 1: from like the Fort Thomas area into Newport and around
Speaker 1: the corner there on twenty seven And I just want
Speaker 1: to know what's in that coffee that would make people
Speaker 1: go nuts to wait in line in a traffic jam
Speaker 1: for twenty minutes for a cup of friggin coffee. What's
Speaker 1: so special? Are they giving it away? I know they're not.
Speaker 1: It's specialty brew seven brew, I believe it's called. It's
Speaker 1: becoming a real issue if you want to go anywhere
Speaker 1: else and do anything else besides get coffee. Can somebody
Speaker 1: tell me the secret of why sometimes I rolled past
Speaker 1: it and roll my window down and yell at the
Speaker 1: people in line, it's just coffee, for crying out loud.
Speaker 1: I don't get it anyway. That was just an aside.
Speaker 1: Now the real meat of the matter, to talk about
Speaker 1: the big beautiful bill, what it means to you and me,
Speaker 1: what it may mean if it doesn't get passed by
Speaker 1: July fourth. The GOP is firmly and the Trump administration
Speaker 1: firmly saying yeah, we got to get this passed by
Speaker 1: this summer, because you know, if they don't, they'll never
Speaker 1: have another opportunity to keep your taxes low, to tackle
Speaker 1: things like no tax on tips, no tax, extra tax
Speaker 1: on Social Security or overtime. And to talk about that,
Speaker 1: a man who's the author of two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: What happened? And our guest right now, Todd shoots is
Speaker 1: Todd Sheets. How are you, sir, Todd Sheets.
Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Jerry, I'm doing great. Thanks for having
Speaker 2: me today, fantastic.
Speaker 1: Rand Paul has come out Senator from my stay Kentucky
Speaker 1: and says three other Senators are not going to vote
Speaker 1: for this current big, beautiful bill, which could effectively kill
Speaker 1: it in the Senator. If that remains the case after
Speaker 1: negotiation and and and do you think that they can
Speaker 1: make moderations and make enough cuts to make these fiscal
Speaker 1: hawks happy and get the thing over the finish line
Speaker 1: by July fourth? What's your level of confidence, Todd?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that that's this is going to end
Speaker 11: up getting done. I think there's still enough, you know,
Speaker 11: political support within for the Trump administration and for Trump
Speaker 11: in general within the Republican Party. He's in a much
Speaker 11: different place than he was, excuse me, under.
Speaker 2: His first term.
Speaker 11: So I do expect that when push comes to shove,
Speaker 11: you know, it may not all be pretty along the way,
Speaker 11: but that they will get this past.
Speaker 1: Well the CBO, and you know, their numbers have been
Speaker 1: questioned before, and they haven't always been right before, but
Speaker 1: looking at the bill in its current form that came
Speaker 1: out of the House and got passed by one vote,
Speaker 1: raises the debt by another three point nine trillion dollars.
Speaker 1: That's why my Congressman Thomas Massey would not vote for it,
Speaker 1: and others had issues in the in the Conservative fiscal
Speaker 1: Caucus have issues with this. Is that at a time
Speaker 1: when we have this concentration on cutting cost, cutting waste
Speaker 1: fraud and abuse in Washington with Doge and the work
Speaker 1: that's you know, supposedly done or been done so far anyway,
Speaker 1: with Doge, in cutting this almost thirty seven trillion dollar
Speaker 1: debt that our country is you know, carrying around that
Speaker 1: got our credit rating lowered by Moody's just a month ago.
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't the idea? And I know President Trump
Speaker 1: ran on making the tax cuts permanent, but he also
Speaker 1: ran on leaner and meaner government and cutting waste, fraud
Speaker 1: and abuse, and there's still way too much of it
Speaker 1: in our federal government and in this bill, isn't there.
Speaker 2: Yes, I do agree with that.
Speaker 11: I think that I think this is will end up
Speaker 11: getting passed as we talked about, but I think they
Speaker 11: should have made a stronger effort to get the spending
Speaker 11: side of the equation moving back down to where it's
Speaker 11: got to get to in order for us to become
Speaker 11: a fiscally healthy country again. And you know, there's some
Speaker 11: proposals out there about our discussion about the idea of
Speaker 11: moving to a pre COVID baseline, which I think would
Speaker 11: have been a good idea, you know, that would basically
Speaker 11: spending right now is roughly at twenty three and a
Speaker 11: half percent of GDP before COVID, for the first three
Speaker 11: years of Trump one point zero, and the last four
Speaker 11: years of Obama it averaged about twenty point five percent.
Speaker 2: So if we could just.
Speaker 11: Go back to that idea, you know, with just rolling
Speaker 11: things back a little bit, that would cut the deficit
Speaker 11: in half. And it's still would take a lot of
Speaker 11: work to get it, you know, back to where it
Speaker 11: needs to be, where we're balanced, but I think that'd
Speaker 11: be a good initial step. And then the other key
Speaker 11: is kicking off the growth in GDP, which can help,
Speaker 11: you know, bring the budget deficits back into alignment also
Speaker 11: because then you start collecting enough more revenue that if
Speaker 11: you're then being disciplined about the expense side of the equation.
Speaker 11: It can all come together over time. But I am
Speaker 11: disappointed that there hasn't been a more concerted effort in
Speaker 11: the House to get the spending under control and to
Speaker 11: send a message to the country that this isn't just
Speaker 11: an other round of government and Congress and spending as usual.
Speaker 11: And I think that's what these senators are looking for,
Speaker 11: and hopefully they'll be able to make some progress in
Speaker 11: that direction.
Speaker 1: There have been predictions recently that our GDP is actually
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty healthy the second half of the year.
Speaker 1: I heard an estimate of more than three percent growth.
Speaker 1: Where was all this talk of recession? What was that
Speaker 1: all about? It was it just political rock throwing and
Speaker 1: people trying to make it happen basically because they opposed
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and this particular GOP leadership. I mean, we're
Speaker 1: not anywhere nearer recession. I mean, the only thing that
Speaker 1: I keep hearing from the financial gurus they said that
Speaker 1: weather forecasters were invented to make financial forecasters look better.
Speaker 1: But the bond market is what I keep hearing is
Speaker 1: really what to watch? Your thoughts on that?
Speaker 11: Yeah, Well, I mean I think where all of that
Speaker 11: came from. It mostly became something that you started to
Speaker 11: hear a lot about when the Liberation Day tariffs were announced,
Speaker 11: and then the stock market went down, and so to me,
Speaker 11: that was first and foremost a reaction.
Speaker 2: To what happened in the stock market.
Speaker 11: And then when the stock market came back up after
Speaker 11: they reached the preliminary agreement with China, which might be
Speaker 11: you know, on you know, a little bit more skittish
Speaker 11: right now than everybody thought for a while. But in
Speaker 11: any event, once that was reached, they got to deal
Speaker 11: with the UK, it started to seemed like there was
Speaker 11: some momentum that this was not going to be as
Speaker 11: difficult an adjustment period as it looked like it could
Speaker 11: be for a while. That's when all of the recession
Speaker 11: taught got started.
Speaker 2: And that's what I think.
Speaker 11: It's primarily a function of I would go back to exactly.
Speaker 2: The point that you just made, and I've said this.
Speaker 11: You know, I write these pieces for Substacks, the newsletter
Speaker 11: I have there, which by the way, is free, but
Speaker 11: it's nobody is very good at forecasting key economic turning points.
Speaker 11: And the point I've made is, you know, the Federal
Speaker 11: Reserve always talks about we're sitting around we have these forecasts.
Speaker 4: It could be recession, or it could be inflationary.
Speaker 11: They're no better than anybody else, and so I just
Speaker 11: don't put a lot of stock in those kinds of things.
Speaker 11: And as you said, there are reasons to be optimistic
Speaker 11: moving forward here.
Speaker 2: I think time will tell.
Speaker 11: There don't appear to be any signs that we are
Speaker 11: headed into a deep recession or even a recession right now.
Speaker 11: And I think a lot of the screaming and yelling
Speaker 11: that we heard was just taking the stock market drop
Speaker 11: and using it as ammunition to attack the administration for
Speaker 11: tariff policies that people either didn't like because they're kind
Speaker 11: of in the old guard Republican school that doesn't like
Speaker 11: those things, or they're just anti Trump and anti Trump administration.
Speaker 1: Well, there's a big difference between fair trade and free trade,
Speaker 1: right Todd. I mean people say, oh, I'm a free
Speaker 1: trade guy, but I mean America has been The President
Speaker 1: has been correct when he's pointed out that America has
Speaker 1: been getting ripped off for years on these tariffs with
Speaker 1: Europe and China and everywhere else.
Speaker 11: Right, I couldn't agree with you more. And I've written
Speaker 11: this in several pieces. It's like and this is honestly true.
Speaker 11: I mean, you hear somebody will say I'm this and
Speaker 11: sometimes they're not. But look, I am completely a free
Speaker 11: trade person. But if you take these people from the
Speaker 11: conservative side who say are anti this tariff agenda, and
Speaker 11: they say it's because of free trade, well ask them,
Speaker 11: how can you POSSI believe consider China's approach to trade
Speaker 11: with US to be a free trade arrangement. I mean
Speaker 11: it's absurd. Or to look at what's happened with autos
Speaker 11: in Europe for example, where they're tariffs on US cars
Speaker 11: going into Europe are four times as high as the
Speaker 11: US tariffs on European cars coming in this direction. That's
Speaker 11: not free trade. That's the status quo. So if you're
Speaker 11: saying I'm anti this agenda because you know and you
Speaker 11: want to give, then what your real reason. What you're
Speaker 11: saying is you're you're anti changing the status quo.
Speaker 7: You're not.
Speaker 11: It's that you're standing up for free trade. You're standing
Speaker 11: up for the status quo. And the status quo is
Speaker 11: unbalanced and it's unfair and it needs to be leveled out.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I have a two perspectives on this. One is I
Speaker 2: think we should be using.
Speaker 11: Our trade policies to try and isolate the hostile regimes
Speaker 11: out there, of which China is the most dangerous. And
Speaker 11: so I think we're doing the right thing and escalating
Speaker 11: tariffs against China because I think we should be decoupling
Speaker 11: and isolating them in the same way we isolated the
Speaker 11: Soviet Union that led to the victory in the Cold War.
Speaker 11: Then with respect to our allies, what we should be
Speaker 11: doing is using the tariff negotiations to try and create
Speaker 11: a free and balance trading environment, which is, bring them
Speaker 11: down to zero would be the ideal thing to do.
Speaker 11: But if they won't, then we impose ones on them
Speaker 11: that are comparable to what you know their various policies
Speaker 11: are doing to us. But yes, I agree completely with
Speaker 11: what you're saying about three.
Speaker 2: Fair trade.
Speaker 11: I mean free trade means there's little to no barriers
Speaker 11: coming from either side, so that whoever is has what
Speaker 11: you know the economists call a comparative advantage and can
Speaker 11: do something more efficiently. They're the ones that are the producers,
Speaker 11: and then both sides benefit from that kind of trade.
Speaker 1: Well, it's like I always say, I see the coexist
Speaker 1: bumper stickers on people's cars and going. It's kind of
Speaker 1: hard to coexist with people that want to kill you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: I know the same thing.
Speaker 7: That's a great analogy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you wrote the book two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: What really happened? What really happened in two thousand and eight, Todd.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, we still don't understand that.
Speaker 11: What really happened was we had a housing bubble that
Speaker 11: led to a financial crisis. Without the bubble, there would
Speaker 11: not have been a financial crisis. What created the housing bubble?
Speaker 11: The housing bubble was created by two things. First, starting
Speaker 11: in nineteen ninety eight, which is the year when housing
Speaker 11: prices lifted up and started accelerating much more quickly than
Speaker 11: they had historically. Fanny May and Freddie Mack the two
Speaker 11: government sponsored enterprises that by that time controlled not quite
Speaker 11: fifty percent of the housing finance in the country. But
Speaker 11: in the mid forties they engaged in a massive expansion
Speaker 11: of their mission to push money out into the system,
Speaker 11: and that triggered the first phase of the bubble. And then,
Speaker 11: in the early two thousand, with housing prices escalating well
Speaker 11: above the long term historic averages, the Federal Reserve made
Speaker 11: a disastrous mistake of lowering short term interest rates as
Speaker 11: a reaction to the blow up of the tech stock
Speaker 11: dot com bubble. They were afraid that that was going
Speaker 11: to hurt the economy. They pushed interest rates down, and
Speaker 11: what they didn't realize they were doing was they were
Speaker 11: creating an incredible incentive for people to buy homes with
Speaker 11: short term, variable rate mortgages, and that funded or fed
Speaker 11: the second wave of the bubble, which I call the
Speaker 11: acceleration phase in the book, that ran through about two thousands,
Speaker 11: when the Fed finally started normalizing interest rates and all
Speaker 11: of a sudden, the rates of housing appreciation started dropping.
Speaker 11: And then the next year we entered into the collapse
Speaker 11: that led to the financial crisis. So, in a nutshell,
Speaker 11: that's what caused it all.
Speaker 1: But it was all initiated by the government at the
Speaker 1: start because there was this bush on the banks for
Speaker 1: them to offer home loans to people who obviously weren't
Speaker 1: prepared to pay for those homes.
Speaker 11: Right yes, primarily through Fannie May and Freddie Mack, and
Speaker 11: so it kind of came from both. So these were
Speaker 11: these these two huge government sponsored enterprises. They're private companies,
Speaker 11: but they had various privileges that allowed them to borrow
Speaker 11: more cheaply than everybody else, and they decided they wanted
Speaker 11: to start growing much more quickly.
Speaker 2: They doubled their growth rate, and Congress.
Speaker 11: And their overseers in Washington agreed, extending all the way
Speaker 11: up to the Clinton administration and then the book Bush administration.
Speaker 2: They all thought that this.
Speaker 11: Was going to be a great way to get more
Speaker 11: people to own a home, and that homes always go
Speaker 11: up in value, so this will help lift people up
Speaker 11: from low income or lower levels of assets up to
Speaker 11: a better place. And it all ended up disastrously and
Speaker 11: hurt the people the most. The people that were hurt
Speaker 11: the most were the people who it all was supposed
Speaker 11: to help.
Speaker 1: Amazing how that works. What do you think about? What
Speaker 1: what do you think about what President Trump wants to
Speaker 1: do right now with Fannie may and Freddie may Well.
Speaker 11: He wants to privatize them, which is to get the
Speaker 11: government right now, they're in a conservativeship because they failed
Speaker 11: as a result of the collapse of the housing bubble,
Speaker 11: and so the government kind of stepped it in to
Speaker 11: take over them. He wants to push them out and
Speaker 11: privatize them, which.
Speaker 2: I think is a good idea.
Speaker 11: I would like to see them go even further and
Speaker 11: either completely dismantle and liquidate them, or break them up
Speaker 11: into much smaller pieces and take away all of the
Speaker 11: government privileges that gave them the opportunity to create the
Speaker 11: problems they did the last time.
Speaker 4: Todd.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to go that far. Todd Sheets,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. I appreciate your
Speaker 1: time today.
Speaker 4: Pleasure to be with you. Gary.
Speaker 1: You've been hearing about the latest data breach of your
Speaker 1: passwords Google, Apple at all. Dave had her to talk
Speaker 1: about that and more after the news next on seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW all right round in the turn, It's a
Speaker 1: twelve noon and Willie Gary Jeff Walker and for Scott's loan.
Speaker 1: It's been all over the news the data breach of
Speaker 1: Apple and Google and all the other people that are
Speaker 1: entrusted with having your passwords and your user names and
Speaker 1: the like. It's time to I just changed my password today.
Speaker 1: And I think that our next guest would say, good boy,
Speaker 1: Gary Jeff, Good morning, Dave Hatter, how are you doing.
Speaker 6: I'm doing good, Gary Jeff. And just while I was
Speaker 6: waiting for you on the phone, I got the old
Speaker 6: tech telling me that my Apple Pay has been changed
Speaker 6: and I've been charged twelve hundred and thirty dollars and
Speaker 6: I better call him right now to take care. So
Speaker 6: I'm as soon as I hang up with you, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna call and get them all my personal information to
Speaker 6: make sure so my Apple Pay is squared away, which
Speaker 6: I don't even have, by the way, I'm good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get those notes, I get those emails from
Speaker 1: and text sometimes from PayPal and any number of other
Speaker 1: pay online sources that I don't have accounts with either.
Speaker 1: So yeah, just keeping up with you know what I
Speaker 1: really wanted to talk to you about this morning, outside
Speaker 1: of the data breach, and we can get to that.
Speaker 1: We kind of talked about this a little bit on
Speaker 1: this Saturday Morning show. But well, let's go and tackle
Speaker 1: that now and then I'll get to my pet topic
Speaker 1: in a moment. First off, tell me about the data bridge.
Speaker 1: Was one hundred and eighty four million records of passwords?
Speaker 4: Or am I?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: What happened? That's right?
Speaker 6: Well, so here's what all the speculation is from the
Speaker 6: reporting I've seen so far. You know, because the data
Speaker 6: that was in that breach included people's accounts from a
Speaker 6: variety of different services. It wasn't just Google or Microsoft
Speaker 6: or Apple or Amazon. It was, you know, accounts from
Speaker 6: pretty much across the spectrum. One hundred and eighty four
Speaker 6: million records. As you mentioned, it was found basically by
Speaker 6: a researcher. Thankfully, Gary Jeff. There are people out there
Speaker 6: who are constantly researching, trying to find these kind of things,
Speaker 6: trying to find vulnerabilities and software so that we can
Speaker 6: all be better protected and safer. This guy stumbled into
Speaker 6: what was essentially a database full of these one hundred
Speaker 6: and eighty four billion records on a website. He reached
Speaker 6: out to this website kind of take it down. So
Speaker 6: at this point I haven't seen any reporting that indicates.
Speaker 3: How long it was out there. I don't think they know.
Speaker 6: But it appears that the data in this data breach
Speaker 6: was probably collected using some kind of infos dealers splash,
Speaker 6: keystroke Blogger, which would be software you would uh surreptitiously
Speaker 6: download to your device, you know, whether it's at text
Speaker 6: like the one I just mentioned, or an email message,
Speaker 6: some sort of fishing You click a link, it downloads
Speaker 6: this software that runs silently in the background and captures
Speaker 6: all of your key strips. So when you go to
Speaker 6: log into your bank or your insurance company, or Facebook
Speaker 6: or whatever, they're capturing that information and it's getting sent
Speaker 6: off to some command and control, some server somewhere for
Speaker 6: some of the various purpose. And again the speculation at
Speaker 6: this point is because you have accounts from a wide
Speaker 6: spectrum of different Hello, yeah, I'm still here, Gary, Joe,
Speaker 6: you got me? Yeah about that, And so that's that's
Speaker 6: the theory about how this happened. Uh, it's bad because
Speaker 6: it is accounts from a bunch of different platforms. It
Speaker 6: looks like in many cases there are plain text passwords.
Speaker 6: Plain text is fancy nerds speak for it's human readable.
Speaker 6: You know, normally, if you're using like a password manager,
Speaker 6: the password itself is hashed and or encrypted. In this
Speaker 6: case with a key store clogger, it's capturing stuff as
Speaker 6: you're typing it in real time before there would be
Speaker 6: any sort of encryption added tode it. No, it's really
Speaker 6: bad because you know, if someone can break in and
Speaker 6: steal your password vault out of a password manager, assuming
Speaker 6: it's appropriately encrypted, they still have to break all that encryption.
Speaker 8: So it's bad.
Speaker 6: But that's a lot of extra work. It's a lot
Speaker 6: more difficult versus here's a file of one hundred and
Speaker 6: eighty four million records, and it's got plain text passwords
Speaker 6: that anyone can just start using. So you know, if
Speaker 6: all of this bears out, and a lot of times
Speaker 6: when this news breaks over time, you'll see the story
Speaker 6: will change pretty practically. But if this bears out, it's
Speaker 6: pretty bad. And I would recommend everyone do what you
Speaker 6: just did, which is change your passwords. Make sure you
Speaker 6: have a strong, unique password for each account. Consider a
Speaker 6: password manager like one Password. That's what I use personally,
Speaker 6: that's what we use it in trust. And this is
Speaker 6: the best evidence ever for why you have to turn
Speaker 6: on multi factor authentication.
Speaker 1: Good just going to get to that at least two
Speaker 1: factor multi factor authentication of everything. All right, let me
Speaker 1: let me get to my let's get to the entree
Speaker 1: what I wanted to talk about. So I report over
Speaker 1: the weekend someone predicting that in just five short years
Speaker 1: of white collar jobs are going to be gone obsolete
Speaker 1: because of artificial intelligence. This is moving quickly. It's it's
Speaker 1: kind of scary for a lot of people. Some people
Speaker 1: in the cyber world will say, well, it's going to
Speaker 1: create all kinds of new opportunities for people in jobs.
Speaker 1: It's not going to eliminate the human workforce. And other
Speaker 1: people are saying, wow, if you don't have another plan,
Speaker 1: you could be the up the creek, you know which
Speaker 1: creek without what paddle and MIT is saying why the
Speaker 1: humanoid workforce is running late? We are running way behind
Speaker 1: as humans when it comes to AI replacing a lot
Speaker 1: of jobs. This has been talked about for a long time,
Speaker 1: and now the day is here, is it not?
Speaker 6: You know, Gary, Jeff, I'm not so sure. I think
Speaker 6: a lot of what you see is snake oil salesman
Speaker 6: trying to convince you to invest money and to buy
Speaker 6: these things because supposedly you're going to have these main
Speaker 6: these giant productivity boosts. And I'm not saying the day
Speaker 6: is never coming. I don't think we're here yet. In fact,
Speaker 6: you know, there have been some high profile cases where
Speaker 6: companies have gotten rid of people and then decided they
Speaker 6: had to bring him back because the AI couldn't do
Speaker 6: what it was purported to do. And as a guy
Speaker 6: who spent twenty five plus years in this business as
Speaker 6: a software engineer and seeing hype cycle after hip cycle
Speaker 6: after hype cycle around software. You know, AI still has
Speaker 6: a lot of problems that hallucinate to just make stuff up.
Speaker 6: Can you trust your business to a process that ten
Speaker 6: plus percent of the time or more? Will this literally
Speaker 6: make something up? Well, I'm saying no, especially if it's
Speaker 6: anything like patient care. And then that MIT article you mentioned,
Speaker 6: I encourage everyone to go out and see this, because
Speaker 6: again I I'm not saying this will never happen. I
Speaker 6: don't think it's as close as some of the hucksters
Speaker 6: out there have are predicting. It is a good idea, though,
Speaker 6: to learn how to use generative AI tools because they
Speaker 6: can give you a lot of productivity boost if you
Speaker 6: understand what they're good at and what they're not good at.
Speaker 6: But that MIT article about humanoids, you know, they're they're
Speaker 6: basically pointing out, well, why don't we already have robots
Speaker 6: that can just do all this stuff? Because you know,
Speaker 6: the part of the concern around all of this has
Speaker 6: been not only white collar jobs for the way, but
Speaker 6: eventually blue collar jobs for the way, because you know,
Speaker 6: a robot's going to come fix your h back or
Speaker 6: your car engine or whatever. And the point they make
Speaker 6: in this mit article Ken variance I think is that
Speaker 6: to build robots that can do these sort of things,
Speaker 6: and many people have probably seen like the Atlas videos
Speaker 6: and the Tesla Optimist robot videos. You know, these things
Speaker 6: are all still While they've come a long way and
Speaker 6: can do some amazing things, you can't just send them
Speaker 6: out and let them do things. And one of the
Speaker 6: people they talk about in this article is like, you know,
Speaker 6: she talks to the robot and says, water this plant,
Speaker 6: so it waters the plant, and then she says water
Speaker 6: her friend. Well, the thing doesn't understand that people don't
Speaker 6: need to be watered. You know, they don't have common sense.
Speaker 4: Per se.
Speaker 6: And to build a robot that can be sort of
Speaker 6: generally purposed to any tank, it takes a lot of batteries,
Speaker 6: it takes a lot of motors. It's not that easy
Speaker 6: to do. And that's why, you know, you haven't suddenly
Speaker 6: seen a world full of robots.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 6: A lot of very smart people like Elon Musk are predicting,
Speaker 6: you know, in the next four to five years you're
Speaker 6: going to have humanoid robots doing all this stuff. You know,
Speaker 6: he's a lot smarter than me, He's a lot closer
Speaker 6: to it than me, But I'll believe it when I
Speaker 6: see it.
Speaker 1: Well, of all the things of the Jetsons that we
Speaker 1: all thought we might have by now, I really still
Speaker 1: want a flying car. Although I can't imagine the traffic
Speaker 1: reports and the number of casualties if we had flying cars,
Speaker 1: because it's bad enough. It's bad enough on the roads
Speaker 1: as it is. Can you imagine all those things.
Speaker 6: In the air only if it makes that sound that
Speaker 6: Jetson's flying.
Speaker 7: I need one that makes that sounds, you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a great sound, you know, in the b
Speaker 6: it pops out of your briefcase and you fly off.
Speaker 6: But that would be pretty awesome. But yeah, I won't
Speaker 6: be riding in any autonomous, fully autonomous anything's in the
Speaker 6: near future.
Speaker 8: I know.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 6: Tessa claims to have a lot of breakthroughs there with
Speaker 6: their fully self driving vehicles. I've seen videos of it,
Speaker 6: I've seen people talk about it. I just as a
Speaker 6: guy who spent a lot of time riding software and
Speaker 6: creating a lot of bugs that none of which were intentional,
Speaker 6: I just don't trust it yet.
Speaker 1: Jess Well, you mentioned AI having problems with hallucinating, and
Speaker 1: I've been in radio for forty five five years now,
Speaker 1: and I've worked with a bunch of very successful people
Speaker 1: who I swear we're hallucinating most of the time. So
Speaker 1: I'm more concerned about this job than a lot of
Speaker 1: other jobs. LG TV will soon be leveraging an AI
Speaker 1: model built for showing ads that more closely align with
Speaker 1: viewers' personal beliefs and emotions. So the TV itself is
Speaker 1: gauging your emotion to show you the ads they think
Speaker 1: you should see. How does that work?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: To me, this is right out of nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 6: George Orwell has got to be rolling over in his grave.
Speaker 6: So I think the first thing this points out is ay,
Speaker 6: all of these companies, including any smart anything fill in
Speaker 6: the blank, refrigerator, TV, whatever, they care about your data. Right,
Speaker 6: That's why they exist. It's not to say their flimsy,
Speaker 6: crappy product, it's they want your data so they can
Speaker 6: do these kinds of things. And then the second piece
Speaker 6: this should tell you is, well, how could your TV
Speaker 6: know what sort of emotional reaction you're having unless it
Speaker 6: is watching you?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 6: So again, Garrett, Jeff, you and I over the years
Speaker 6: have discussed how much ID to load the Internet of things,
Speaker 6: which is really just a privacy and security dumpster fire.
Speaker 6: And to me, this is like a five alarm dumpster
Speaker 6: fire of why this stuff is garbage? You know, now,
Speaker 6: they don't just want to know what you watched, how
Speaker 6: long you watched it, what you clicked on. They literally
Speaker 6: want to watch you watching the TV and determine if
Speaker 6: you're having some sort of emotional reaction to whatever's on
Speaker 6: TV and then change up what they're sending even terms
Speaker 6: of ad content. I mean, on one hand, I think, well,
Speaker 6: that's really brilliant, and I ask why they would want
Speaker 6: to do that. On the other hand, this is like
Speaker 6: the most dystopian orwellian thing you could possibly imagine. And
Speaker 6: I think and less and until consumers finally say enough
Speaker 6: is enough of this? You know, indicative that you know
Speaker 6: your coffee maker will be deciding what is your reaction
Speaker 6: to the cause, and you know, sending you some sort
Speaker 6: of ridiculous ad or perhaps reporting you to the bund
Speaker 6: police because you know you have wrong, wrong think as
Speaker 6: a result of your coffee that day or whatever. Well,
Speaker 6: you know, I can tell you.
Speaker 1: If in this situation, if you say something on the radio,
Speaker 1: you approach a subject, we offer you to voluntarily call in.
Speaker 1: But this would be like I've got something watching you
Speaker 1: while you listen to me, and then I respond accordingly
Speaker 1: to what you are thinking or whatever. This is crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't want what I'm watching watching me, Dave and me,
Speaker 1: and these things aren't Some of these devices aren't giving
Speaker 1: you the option to opt out, are they?
Speaker 6: Well, that's that's where I This is again why I
Speaker 6: despise this stuff.
Speaker 8: Besides the fact those.
Speaker 6: People don't know how to configure it securely, despite the
Speaker 6: fact that most people don't understand in their relatively short order,
Speaker 6: the companies that make this stuff will stop supplying software
Speaker 6: updates for it to keep secure. So within a couple
Speaker 6: of years typically these becomes a significant hole in your network.
Speaker 6: It's exactly what you describe, right. You have all these
Speaker 6: dark patterns. You have these you know, almost insurmountable, completely
Speaker 6: unintelligible uh terms of service and privacy policies that are
Speaker 6: full of all kinds of legal mumbo jumbo to quote
Speaker 6: Scott Adams, that confuse opoly. You know, they opt you
Speaker 6: into this stuff. You have to opt out. You have
Speaker 6: to figure out how to opt out. It's usually buried
Speaker 6: deep down inside thirty five menu options, where each one
Speaker 6: along the way is telling you, well, no, don't turn
Speaker 6: this off because then this bad thing will happen, right,
Speaker 6: dark patterns, that's what it's called in the business because
Speaker 6: they want that data. And you know, at least in
Speaker 6: nineteen eighty four the telescreen was mandated by the government.
Speaker 6: Here people are voluntarily bringing this stuff into their house
Speaker 6: and allowing it to spy on them in their most
Speaker 6: sensitive moments. You may have seen, you know, Apple, just
Speaker 6: the we settle for ninety five million because despite years
Speaker 6: of denials, you know, that went to court and Siri
Speaker 6: has been listening to you. Well, it has to listen
Speaker 6: to you, Garrett, Jeff. How can it respond if it's
Speaker 6: not listening to you? But you know, then the issue
Speaker 6: becomes what do they do with that? Who has access
Speaker 6: to it? Does it activate only when it should activate?
Speaker 6: And to me, the idea that I'm going to have
Speaker 6: a TV watching me to determine how I'm reacting to
Speaker 6: stuff that I can tell you I'll listen every TV away.
Speaker 6: I won't have TVs anymore. If I can't get a
Speaker 6: TV it does not have this four WELLI and crap
Speaker 6: built into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean and that's not as you say, tinfoil
Speaker 1: hat thinking, that's just right, thinking, Dave, along with all
Speaker 1: along with all these other zombie devices. And we don't
Speaker 1: really have time to get into the zombie device, but
Speaker 1: we kind of did, yes, the other the other so
Speaker 1: called smart devices that you have laying around your house,
Speaker 1: because they're the cutting a sharper image kind of thing
Speaker 1: that you've just got to have the latesting. But just
Speaker 1: real quickly in a minute, what's a zombie device?
Speaker 6: Well, they're what they're using the term zombie There is
Speaker 6: essentially older Internet of Things devices that no longer get
Speaker 6: updates from the manufacturer, so they become a security liability
Speaker 6: because bad guys are constantly researching these things, they find
Speaker 6: a vulnerability, they use a search engine like show dam
Speaker 6: specifically designed to find these things online, and then okay,
Speaker 6: I'm going to go out and look for this particular
Speaker 6: webcamera that has this particular flaw. Oh I found it,
Speaker 6: and Gary Jeff's out. Now I'll try to exploit it
Speaker 6: for you know, whatever I can get out of that.
Speaker 6: And in most cases why these are so risky is
Speaker 6: because if I can get into your webcamera or your
Speaker 6: coffee maker, your dryer, whatever it is. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 6: potential portal to the other devices on your network, your computer,
Speaker 6: your work environment.
Speaker 1: So when they say, Dave, I got to stop right here.
Speaker 1: But you're not just having sex with this person, You're
Speaker 1: having sex with every person that person ever had sex with.
Speaker 1: And I think that's a good place to stop. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much, Thank you so much. Willie up next,
Speaker 1: Gary Jeffen for Sloane. Thanks for tuning in. Seven hundred
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