1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,560 Speaker 1: At Bantererwealth dot Com. 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:04,599 Speaker 2: You're tuned to Cougar Sports on ko v O Probo 3 00:00:04,799 --> 00:00:07,200 k U D d h D two one oh three 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,880 nine at ninety eight three ESPN The Fan. 5 00:00:11,759 --> 00:00:14,439 Speaker 1: Get to know the Cougar's opponents and rivals right now. 6 00:00:14,519 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 3: I need to know the faux segment on Cougar Sports 7 00:00:17,399 --> 00:00:21,079 with Ben Kretel. Welcome back Cougar Sports one of three, 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,519 nine nine eighty point three ESPN The Fan. I've bettoral 9 00:00:23,559 --> 00:00:26,440 broadcasting from our Vanderwelth Studios Vanderwealth dot Com. Get on 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,960 that free Q and A no obligation to invest Q 11 00:00:29,039 --> 00:00:31,440 and A with our tax smart wealth Advisors, our certify 12 00:00:31,519 --> 00:00:34,840 financial Planners. Nobody does it better than Banderwealth. I want 13 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,600 to get to know the foe. B YU, get in prep, 14 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,159 get ready for this by U u CF matchup concluding 15 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,280 their two game homestand on Tuesday evening, we got to 16 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,359 get to know the foe. How good is this UCF 17 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,079 uh this UCF basketball team coming into the Merriage Center. 18 00:00:49,119 --> 00:00:51,759 We'll see how they fare against the Bay Cougars. They 19 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,000 just found their best win of the season. They were 20 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,840 able to uh uh you know, finally play their best 21 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,159 ball versus Iowa State. 22 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Let's get to know the fox. 23 00:01:00,079 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: The second is going to be brought to you by 24 00:01:01,679 --> 00:01:05,200 Orthroposo Utah Arthroprosofvieutah dot com. If you're an offensive or 25 00:01:05,239 --> 00:01:07,760 defensive lineman along the wassatch frount of you're a parent 26 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,439 of an offensive or defensive linean break up. Those knees, 27 00:01:10,439 --> 00:01:13,120 those ankles, those risks, those elbows, these are compromise joints. 28 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: When you get into. 29 00:01:15,079 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 3: Competition, the hand to hand fighting combat, within the trench 30 00:01:18,719 --> 00:01:22,640 warfare game and the high school football ranks. 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Thanks for having me. 43 00:01:50,799 --> 00:01:53,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, always a pleasure talking ball with you. Let's get 44 00:01:53,959 --> 00:01:56,560 a little breakdown. How good is this UCF team? What's 45 00:01:56,599 --> 00:01:59,640 their identity right now? Give us a little breakdown of 46 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:00,480 the season thus far. 47 00:02:01,799 --> 00:02:03,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben, you know, the Knights have really been surprised, 48 00:02:03,599 --> 00:02:04,719 I think for a lot of people. You know, this 49 00:02:04,799 --> 00:02:07,519 is a team that returned zero points from last year's team, 50 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,199 so completely new roster, having to come together under head 51 00:02:10,199 --> 00:02:12,240 coach Johnny Dawkins, and you know, they've been a team 52 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,439 that's offensively been able to score with a lot of 53 00:02:14,439 --> 00:02:16,360 teams in the Big twelve, which I don't think folks 54 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,680 expected just based on the fact that this team came 55 00:02:18,719 --> 00:02:21,639 together kind of haphazardly towards the offseason. But you know, 56 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,520 they've been able to put up some points offensively. I 57 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,319 think defensively they had some challenges, but they've been hanging 58 00:02:26,319 --> 00:02:29,879 into most games and they're typically over the eighty points 59 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,919 of score mark per game. So this is a team 60 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,280 that can certainly, you know, filled the buckets in a hurry. 61 00:02:34,759 --> 00:02:36,400 The challenges right now. The Knights are coming in a 62 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,000 little banged up, a couple of guys injured, and it 63 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,759 may not be at full strength as they head into 64 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,520 BYU tomorrow night. But this is a team that's certainly 65 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,520 when they're right, then they can score the basketball. 66 00:02:45,879 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the culture? 67 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 3: Like you said this team was put together half hazardly, 68 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,560 Then that would make me think, oh, well. 69 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: The culture's not good. What's the culture like within this roster? 70 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, Johnny Dawkins obviously a veteran coach name a lot 71 00:02:58,879 --> 00:03:01,199 of folks in college basketball know. I mean, he's certainly 72 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,840 a guy that that preaches defense and preaches toughness and 73 00:03:03,879 --> 00:03:06,360 preaches accountability to his team. And you just look at 74 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,240 John dawkins resume and what he's accomplished in basketball, and 75 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,560 I think you can certainly his name carries that weight, 76 00:03:11,599 --> 00:03:13,319 and I think that carries some you know, some weight 77 00:03:13,319 --> 00:03:14,879 with the guys that are on his team. You know, 78 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,919 it's a team that wants to be tough defensively, Again, 79 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,520 maybe hasn't been their hallmarks throughout the season, but this 80 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:21,319 is a team that will play hard. This is a 81 00:03:21,319 --> 00:03:23,919 team that will typically make the smart decision, and it's 82 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,520 really kind of a veteran team. Then you know, they 83 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,439 went out and they invested some money and getting some 84 00:03:27,479 --> 00:03:30,120 guys that had experienced at other levels and some some 85 00:03:30,199 --> 00:03:32,159 veteran guys, and so this is a team hopefully that 86 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,400 despite the fact this is the first time they're all 87 00:03:34,439 --> 00:03:36,759 together in these scenarios, a lot of these guys have 88 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,879 played a lot of basketball, and I think that's shown 89 00:03:38,919 --> 00:03:40,680 through to the Knights throughout the season so far. 90 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: Who are the key players on this team? You mentioned 91 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,280 that they're a little bit dinged up, they have some injuries, 92 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,360 et cetera. But who is it that we got to 93 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,240 get to know if you're a b YU fan trying 94 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,000 to get a scout of you report on the Knights. 95 00:03:52,639 --> 00:03:54,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get to know the name famous folks. He 96 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,759 wears number one and he'll be he'll be the point 97 00:03:56,759 --> 00:03:58,479 guard for the Knights, and he's the guy that really 98 00:03:58,479 --> 00:04:01,000 controls the table for the team. You know, he's the 99 00:04:01,039 --> 00:04:02,840 tip of the spear, so to speak, for the Knights. 100 00:04:02,879 --> 00:04:05,759 He controls the the temple Offensively, He's a guy the 101 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,400 Knights want the ball in his hands and big moments. 102 00:04:08,719 --> 00:04:10,919 He's kind of been the closer for UCF in games 103 00:04:10,919 --> 00:04:13,919 where they've had, you know, a tight contest. He's really 104 00:04:13,919 --> 00:04:15,840 been the guy taking the last second shots. He loves 105 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,839 to drive into the into the lane, and get a 106 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,800 little bit of a you know, a Midge Ratings jump shot, 107 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,040 a little floater over over a big man as well too. 108 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,160 So you'll see Seamus Folks number one with the with 109 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,079 the ball a's on and he'll be kind of a 110 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,839 go to guy for the Knights. Unknown if he'll play yet, 111 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,600 but the starting shooting guard Riley Kogle where's number two? 112 00:04:31,639 --> 00:04:34,079 He did not play against Utah on Saturday with a 113 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,600 lower body injury, but he is on the trip, so 114 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,560 as possible he will see some match maybe Inainst b 115 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,879 Yu still listen as questionable. He is a he is 116 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,800 a bucket ben. I mean he can he can fill 117 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,639 it up. He's a streaky shooter of though. So when 118 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:46,279 he's hot, he's on and he can make shots. And 119 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,439 when he's off, he's off. But still unknown whether or 120 00:04:48,439 --> 00:04:51,000 not you'll see him on the court on on Tuesday. 121 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,040 Gains BYU and an inside number four to Michael Stillwell, 122 00:04:54,079 --> 00:04:55,759 this guy's just a beast of a player. Been an 123 00:04:55,759 --> 00:04:58,319 old school player, kind of a kind of dirty, kind 124 00:04:58,319 --> 00:05:00,120 of tenacious, kind of does all the dirty work for 125 00:05:00,399 --> 00:05:03,160 the team down there. He'll fight scraps ball for rebounds, 126 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,120 tip ins, loose balls, again, he's also nursing a bit 127 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,079 of a lower body injury as well. But he's another 128 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,120 fource down low. He can certainly get you some you know, 129 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,680 I think, well some people call garbage points because they'll 130 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,800 get some tip in, some loose balls, some rebounds. But 131 00:05:16,079 --> 00:05:18,240 you know, he's a force and probably the main force 132 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,680 for UCF on the inside. 133 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 3: This is a good basketball team forty ninth per ken 134 00:05:24,319 --> 00:05:28,439 Bom offensively, thirty fifth in offensive efficiency. They're a little 135 00:05:28,439 --> 00:05:32,439 bit poorous defensively, ranking one hundred and thirteenth. I want 136 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,439 to say in ken Bom nineteen and seven on the 137 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,720 air there right in the middle of the Big twelve. 138 00:05:38,199 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: And they've had some. 139 00:05:39,639 --> 00:05:43,399 Speaker 3: Very impressive wins, and I know some of their losses 140 00:05:43,439 --> 00:05:45,680 have most of their locks have been very close. It's 141 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,560 not like these are blowout losses. But recently in the 142 00:05:51,079 --> 00:05:54,480 there was a three game losing Forreek Houston Cincinnati, West Virginia. 143 00:05:54,519 --> 00:05:57,279 What happened in that three game losing streak over the 144 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,279 last five games. 145 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, been going to Houston and playing at 146 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,199 Houston is tough for any team, right I think the 147 00:06:03,199 --> 00:06:05,560 time UCF had played and they were fifty in one. 148 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,560 That's fifty dash one at home in conference play. So 149 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,319 it's just tough to beat Houston at home. And you see, 150 00:06:12,319 --> 00:06:13,959 if I was he couldn't win that one out, just 151 00:06:13,959 --> 00:06:16,120 didn't he prepared to get Cincinnati and lost a tough 152 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,600 one in West Virginia there. That's also the stretcher dealing 153 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,959 with some injuries. Some guys like Joe Michael Stillwell was 154 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,240 out against West Virginia and so I think it was 155 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,680 just a really tough stretch for the Knights. And again 156 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,720 system really saw some really tough teams as they as 157 00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:30,480 they went on that stretch there, but they rebounded with 158 00:06:30,519 --> 00:06:33,120 a win at at Homing, at TCU, and then a 159 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:35,480 win at at Utah. So I think that's kind of 160 00:06:35,519 --> 00:06:37,480 right the ship there. But just one of those those 161 00:06:37,519 --> 00:06:39,240 gauntlets of the Big Coal bet. As you know, we 162 00:06:39,759 --> 00:06:41,560 night in and night out, you're playing a tough team, 163 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,040 You're playing an opponent that's probably ranked in the top 164 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,800 fifteen in the Big Twelve. And I think UCF just 165 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:48,800 kind of got a tough stretch to the schedule. They're 166 00:06:48,879 --> 00:06:51,319 highlighted by that that tough road loss at Houston. 167 00:06:51,959 --> 00:06:53,079 Speaker 1: What's up with the defense. 168 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: It seems like they can score with anybody what's up 169 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,199 with the defense though. 170 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point, but I think that's the 171 00:06:58,959 --> 00:07:00,959 Achilles deal of the team is, you know, can they guard? 172 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,199 Can they defend? Can they get stopped? And they've had 173 00:07:03,199 --> 00:07:04,920 some moments where they can, but you know, I do 174 00:07:04,959 --> 00:07:07,759 think that's probably the one symptom of bringing a team together, 175 00:07:08,399 --> 00:07:11,079 is really learning the defensive principles and how to play 176 00:07:11,079 --> 00:07:13,839 together connectively. From a defensive standpoint, you know, they've been 177 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,560 kind of banged up on the low block. John Bowle 178 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,279 seven foot two true sophomore center, more of a rim protector, 179 00:07:21,279 --> 00:07:23,680 but he's had some foul troubles against to Michael Siwell 180 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,079 has been out, so they haven't really had a lot 181 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,360 of presence at of size on the inside, which, as 182 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,759 you know in the Big twelve, can certainly come back 183 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,920 to hurt you as a team. And then defensively, you know, 184 00:07:32,959 --> 00:07:34,600 I think you just keeping guards in front of them 185 00:07:34,759 --> 00:07:37,240 and running guys off the three point line has been 186 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,720 a bit of a challenge for this Night's team. But 187 00:07:38,759 --> 00:07:40,439 I do think that's probably a symptom of just a 188 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,439 team again coming together, brand new, trying to stay connected. 189 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,279 Defensively again, they've had Spurts. But you know, I would 190 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:48,000 say that's the achilles heel of this team is, you know, 191 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,399 can they get a stop when they need to get 192 00:07:49,439 --> 00:07:51,639 a stop? Can they can they guard a team, you 193 00:07:51,639 --> 00:07:53,560 know when they're when they're up one and they need 194 00:07:53,639 --> 00:07:55,000 to you know, get the ball back. I think it's 195 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,079 going to challenge, you know, for this nice team throughout 196 00:07:57,079 --> 00:07:57,480 the season. 197 00:07:58,600 --> 00:07:59,759 Speaker 1: You've been around basketball. 198 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: You've seen a lot of great teams there at UCF 199 00:08:02,399 --> 00:08:04,839 and in the Big twelve now and even. 200 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:05,839 Speaker 1: Prior to that the AAC. 201 00:08:06,399 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: Is this UCF team an NCAA tournament team that can 202 00:08:10,639 --> 00:08:12,560 number one just get into the tournament, maybe win in 203 00:08:12,639 --> 00:08:13,120 the tournament. 204 00:08:14,319 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think so. Look, I think this is 205 00:08:15,959 --> 00:08:17,839 a team. You had some of the stats earlier right there. 206 00:08:17,839 --> 00:08:21,319 They're currently citting forty six and the nets you know, 207 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,240 they're combined nine and seven and Quad one and Quad 208 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,720 two games. You know, they got wins over ranked Kansas, 209 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,920 over ranked Texas Tech. For their seven losses come to 210 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,399 teams that were ranked in the top fifteen, including Houston, Vanderbilt, 211 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,159 Arizona in Iowa State. So this is a team that 212 00:08:38,159 --> 00:08:40,639 that's played a lot of tough competition and it's hung 213 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,279 in there and played really well. Again, yeah, they don't 214 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:47,000 necessarily maybe have you know, some of those signature wins, 215 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,480 right they haven't. You know maybe Kansas and Texas Tech 216 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,200 where they kind of qualifiers that too. But then the 217 00:08:52,279 --> 00:08:53,840 Spix twelve, the gauntlet, and if you can go to 218 00:08:53,879 --> 00:08:55,639 the Big twelve right now where you s sitting from 219 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,600 accomplish perspective with an above five hundred record, that's got 220 00:08:58,639 --> 00:09:01,200 to get the attention of the committee. Point and again, 221 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,759 they still have opportunities, well a tough one here against 222 00:09:03,759 --> 00:09:06,360 BYU on the road, they have another Quad one opportunity 223 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,799 to close the season out at West Virginia, so still 224 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,440 have some time on the resume to get some some 225 00:09:10,519 --> 00:09:12,279 wins there. But I think it's the team that's been 226 00:09:12,279 --> 00:09:15,240 playing consistent basketball. And maybe I'm a bit of a 227 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,759 homer in this sense, but I think if you can 228 00:09:16,799 --> 00:09:19,159 go through this Big twelve schedule gauntlet and you can 229 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,720 come out with a winning record, I think that should 230 00:09:21,759 --> 00:09:24,039 certainly put you firmly in the competition and the conversation. 231 00:09:24,159 --> 00:09:26,519 Rather to to make the make the NCAA tournament. 232 00:09:26,759 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this squad would be with you fans 233 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,960 understand they're four to five in Quad one opportunities. They 234 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,159 got wins in a way sitting Texas A and M. 235 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,120 They got to win versus Kamsas at home, they have 236 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,120 a win at Colorado that's still a Quad one win, 237 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,080 and then at home versus Texas Tech. And they they 238 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,000 fought pretty hard on some of these others. There's been 239 00:09:47,039 --> 00:09:49,679 some close losses. You ve that wasn't a that was 240 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,000 a respectable loss, as well as Vanderbilt. 241 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, again, this is a team that fights, you know, 242 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,240 and there's really only a couple of times this season 243 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,279 where you got on you know, the game started and 244 00:09:59,279 --> 00:10:01,559 you realize, you see, didn't really have it. If they've 245 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,159 been in games you mentioned the Arizona game, I mean, 246 00:10:04,159 --> 00:10:05,799 there are a couple of shots away from not being 247 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,360 a little bit different. Texas second eighty eight eighty wins 248 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,559 for the Knights. They controlled that game from from the start. 249 00:10:10,639 --> 00:10:14,200 Same same with Kansas, and that went earlier in the season. 250 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:15,879 So it's a team that will fight and can Again, 251 00:10:15,919 --> 00:10:18,519 it has the offensive firepower to hang in there with 252 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,960 any team. Now will the defense come along? It's obviously 253 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,720 the question there. But this is a team that if 254 00:10:22,759 --> 00:10:24,200 they get hot, they can they can put some points 255 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,360 on you in a hurry, and if you're not prepared 256 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,480 to play them, I think you can you can kind 257 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,039 of fall behind and get surprised with the Knights. But again, 258 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,360 I think a lot of this goes back to then 259 00:10:32,759 --> 00:10:34,879 just you've heard just a ton you know, in this 260 00:10:34,919 --> 00:10:37,320 time of the year, it's veteran guard play right, Veteran 261 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,120 guard players typically, you know, we'll drive a team forward 262 00:10:40,159 --> 00:10:42,399 as they get late into February and March. And that's 263 00:10:42,399 --> 00:10:44,639 where I got like famous folks become super important for 264 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,000 the Knights. Just a veteran decision maker. We can hopefully 265 00:10:47,039 --> 00:10:49,720 steer this team to us some good winning plays down 266 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:50,120 the stretch. 267 00:10:50,759 --> 00:10:52,919 Speaker 1: What's the scattering report on the Koops right now? 268 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: I don't know if you've been able to talk to 269 00:10:54,279 --> 00:10:57,879 the coaches or players yet regarding their road trip out 270 00:10:57,879 --> 00:11:01,159 to Provo, But what do they say about this Cougar 271 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,480 basketball team and how they can slow down easy to 272 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,799 bonds of Rob Right, Cannar Davis and the crew. 273 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure if they have that answer right, 274 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,159 but I think if they did, they'd probably be shared 275 00:11:11,159 --> 00:11:13,000 of that elsewhere too. You know, I think you know 276 00:11:13,039 --> 00:11:14,720 what they're they're certainly going to try to do, is 277 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:15,919 you see us the team that will play us on 278 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,320 the zone, so they'll they'll mix and match man and zone. 279 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:21,080 So I assume we'll try to throw some surprising looks 280 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,159 at at the coops and you know, see if they 281 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,480 catch them off guard and some different looks throughout there 282 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,279 and really kind of keep the game closer. I think 283 00:11:27,279 --> 00:11:29,320 that they can control the rebounds, control the glass. I 284 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,759 think they they'll typically feel good about where they are now. 285 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,799 Won't be easy obviously with the side that b YU 286 00:11:33,879 --> 00:11:35,759 brings them the front line there, but I think you'll 287 00:11:35,759 --> 00:11:37,519 see the defense throw some different looks at them. They'll 288 00:11:37,519 --> 00:11:39,480 I think they'll throw some token press and some token 289 00:11:39,519 --> 00:11:42,240 trap and and certainly try to do some things to 290 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,759 to maybe show some different looks at that b YU 291 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,960 is seen on film from the nice but certainly going 292 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,039 to be a tough contest obviously, you know, going going 293 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,679 up against a tough BYU team. But you know, I 294 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,720 think certainly UCF is is poised to go in there 295 00:11:54,759 --> 00:11:56,200 and give it their all. Again, really just depends on 296 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,840 how healthy this team will be as they walk into 297 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,279 the marry At Center on Teunesday night. 298 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: Give me your overall you've out of the Big Twelve 299 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,559 Basketball conference. What stood out to you this year and 300 00:12:06,639 --> 00:12:11,960 maybe even last year about the about the conference? It's players, 301 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:13,840 the competition. 302 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: Day in and day out. 303 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's easy, but there are no gimmes 304 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,240 in the Big Twelve. Every every time you're going to 305 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,200 play against another big coil of opponent, there are no 306 00:12:22,279 --> 00:12:25,039 gimmes in this conference. Every team top to bottom can 307 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,000 give you a game, and if you're not up to 308 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,240 your best on that night, I think any team candidly 309 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,039 really can can beat any team, right. I think Arizona 310 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,840 and Houston and BYU have separated themselves a little bit 311 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,240 this year Iowa State, but even those teams have had 312 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:40,120 opportunities and have lost games down the stretch here. So 313 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,879 I think it's a team there. If you're not ready, 314 00:12:41,919 --> 00:12:44,000 if you're not prepared night in and night out, you know, 315 00:12:44,039 --> 00:12:46,200 the team across the floor from you can and certainly 316 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,720 will will be a tough task. I think what I've 317 00:12:48,759 --> 00:12:50,600 what I've seen so far is is you know, you 318 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,600 sty have has been struggled again on the interior, and 319 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:55,440 there's you know, teams like Houston, teams like Arizona, teams 320 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,279 like BYU, just just waves of guys in the front 321 00:12:58,279 --> 00:13:00,559 line that are just big, strong and posed players. And 322 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,200 I think you know, it's been a it's been a 323 00:13:02,279 --> 00:13:04,399 league that it's really tough, you know, weak in and 324 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,159 week out, and you know, night in and night out 325 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,120 to go against some of those big bodies down low. 326 00:13:08,519 --> 00:13:10,320 I think that's where you have taken their lumps and 327 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:11,840 still kind of learning a little bit about the Big 328 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,399 twelve basketball. But then, and you've seen as much as 329 00:13:14,399 --> 00:13:15,960 I have. If you don't bring your best every night 330 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,720 in the Big Twelve, whoever's on the other side of 331 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,919 the court certainly can and will surprise you. And I 332 00:13:19,919 --> 00:13:22,360 think that's what makes this league so tough and such 333 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,919 a gauntlet to go through, because you really don't get 334 00:13:24,919 --> 00:13:27,039 any knights off. You really don't get any guinea nights 335 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,679 or a night where you go, Okay, hey, this team's 336 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,200 not quite up to our our par this team's not 337 00:13:31,279 --> 00:13:33,799 quite ready. Any team, any night can steak up on you. 338 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,399 And that's what makes this Big twelve basketball schedule so exciting. 339 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: Who should win the Big Twelve Player of the Year Award? 340 00:13:39,879 --> 00:13:42,399 Do you think right now? Who Who's where's it trending? 341 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,759 Speaker 2: I guess man, you know what I you know, I 342 00:13:46,799 --> 00:13:49,559 think Bradley from from Arizona. Again, I'm just a big 343 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,240 fan of veteran guard play. I mean, he seems to 344 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,639 make the right decision down the stretch for that team 345 00:13:53,639 --> 00:13:55,480 obviously the you know, the one of the best teams 346 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,519 in the nation. I think Bradley's done a great job. 347 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,759 You know, Peterson at Kansas certainly has the potential. But 348 00:14:00,799 --> 00:14:03,039 I'm sure you all talked about, you know, his ability 349 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,080 to stay on the floor sometimes and I think you 350 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,720 can make it. In case for Agie de Band said 351 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,120 as well, I think he's obviously came in and a 352 00:14:08,159 --> 00:14:11,600 quitting himself well in the Big twelve and proven himself 353 00:14:11,639 --> 00:14:13,360 to be a force right now. You know, I think 354 00:14:13,399 --> 00:14:15,360 the injury to top And I think is certainly unfortunate. 355 00:14:15,399 --> 00:14:17,000 I think he's certainly wuld be another name that youth 356 00:14:17,039 --> 00:14:19,159 are out there. But you know about Walcar, I'll go 357 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,879 to Bradley at Arizona right now, I like it. 358 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,799 Speaker 1: Uh. There are some out there that feel like. 359 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: Darren Peterson is going to be the number one overall 360 00:14:28,279 --> 00:14:31,320 pick in the NBA draft. Others feel that ag debond 361 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,759 So will be the number one overall pick. 362 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: Is there. 363 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 3: Do you want to pine on this how you feeling 364 00:14:36,879 --> 00:14:42,120 about the players in college basketball and their eventual draft status? 365 00:14:43,559 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think certainly, you know Peterson has a 366 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:47,919 ton of talent, right, but I think you're going to 367 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,919 have to factor and everything you know about the player 368 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,279 to date right now, and you know you had it 369 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,360 in your in your leading there right the best ability 370 00:14:54,399 --> 00:14:58,320 ability is availability, and certainly with whatever's happening with itself 371 00:14:58,399 --> 00:14:59,799 right now, I think you look at talent, you look 372 00:14:59,799 --> 00:15:02,000 at the entire makeup, and you wonder, you know, if 373 00:15:02,039 --> 00:15:04,080 you're an NBA team, you will invest the lottery take 374 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,759 is he a he the kind of player that can 375 00:15:05,799 --> 00:15:07,679 turn your fortunes as a franchise. Now, it's certainly a 376 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,559 lot of big names out there, but I think the 377 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,720 bands has the entire package. I think he has upsided, 378 00:15:11,759 --> 00:15:15,080 continued to grow and and and build. You know, certainly 379 00:15:15,159 --> 00:15:17,480 he's got the NBA body right now. Right he can 380 00:15:17,519 --> 00:15:19,159 go in and probably you know, get you some minutes 381 00:15:19,159 --> 00:15:21,440 in the NBA today too. So I think you know, 382 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,519 for me, Ben, I'm big on consistency. I'm big on 383 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,039 sort of how your team, you know, functions and prepares 384 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,320 around you. And I think you factor all those things 385 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,399 in there. I think a j Debanta has has still 386 00:15:31,399 --> 00:15:33,519 has some room to grow in the ceiling. And if 387 00:15:33,559 --> 00:15:35,519 I were the NBA team said with that number one 388 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:37,840 ping pong ball, it would be hard for me to 389 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,559 to not call his name on draft Nick. 390 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,679 Speaker 3: Toking some basketball here on your Utah ESPN Radio network, 391 00:15:44,759 --> 00:15:49,360 b why you favored in this game? And ESPN Analytics 392 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,639 also giving b Yu the tip of the cap with 393 00:15:51,679 --> 00:15:55,840 their their their metrics here leading up to tip off. 394 00:15:55,919 --> 00:15:58,440 But how do you see this game playing out right now? 395 00:15:58,480 --> 00:15:59,879 Do you think it's gonna be a close one at 396 00:15:59,879 --> 00:16:01,120 the at the Varied Center. 397 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,279 Speaker 2: I like to hope so Ben, But again I think, 398 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:05,879 you know, if you're a Nights fan, this has the 399 00:16:05,919 --> 00:16:08,360 recipe for for one of those games that if they're 400 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:10,840 not involved early, if they kind of fall behind early, 401 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,679 you know, how will this game fare out? Again? They 402 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,679 came to Utah on Friday to play to play at 403 00:16:16,679 --> 00:16:19,039 the youth on Saturday, they stayed in town. Obviously they 404 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,639 played vau on on Tuesday. Then we'll come back to 405 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,960 kind of finish out their their you know, the three 406 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,679 games trets at the end of the season. They're a 407 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,559 little bit dinged up a little bit injured. They still 408 00:16:28,559 --> 00:16:30,879 have a quad two game against Bayler coming up at home, 409 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,559 and then another game against what's Virginia and the co 410 00:16:32,639 --> 00:16:35,120 Op one opportunity. So I think the first you know, 411 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:36,799 five to ten minutes bet are going to be really 412 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,960 crucial in this game. If if you see it doesn't 413 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,480 have it, If they're not in it early, I think 414 00:16:40,519 --> 00:16:42,440 it could get out of control or hurry. But if 415 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,279 they're able to, you know, make some buckets, get some 416 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,879 stops and control some tempo, I think if you can 417 00:16:46,879 --> 00:16:49,039 get past that ten minute mark and you're still within 418 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,679 shotting distance, I think you see it from give it 419 00:16:50,759 --> 00:16:53,039 a game. But CURIOUSNCY is the fight they'll have, you know, 420 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,720 after this long road trip with some guys dinged up. 421 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,000 You know, how will how old coach Johnny Dawkins, you 422 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,399 know play the play the lineup right? How unma sure 423 00:17:00,399 --> 00:17:02,840 if Riley Coogele is a variable available, will he see 424 00:17:02,879 --> 00:17:05,359 of court time? So I'll be curious to see how 425 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,920 UCF plays this out. But I think the first ten 426 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,359 minutes so of real game time should show you what 427 00:17:10,519 --> 00:17:12,400 the what this matchup will look like. And again, if 428 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,119 I think if you see a falls down in a hurry. 429 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:16,200 I think it can be a long night for Knights fans, 430 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,759 and it will be a long night on the East coast, 431 00:17:17,799 --> 00:17:21,119 by the way, Ben, eleven PM Eastern Tip here here 432 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,200 in Florida, so a lot of a lot of Knights 433 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:24,960 fans might be catching this one on the replay on 434 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:26,160 Wednesday morning. 435 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: Have you taken the trip out to Provo yet, Adam, 436 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:29,799 I have not. 437 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 2: No, It's definitely a bucket list item. Did not get 438 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,880 out there this year for football, but definitely a bucket 439 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,640 list item. You know, heard nothing of the great things 440 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,400 about about the community, about the views and the sites 441 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,640 out there, so it's certainly a bucket list item for 442 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:42,279 me and my crew. 443 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:47,519 Speaker 3: What's what's been the attendance like at the football and 444 00:17:47,599 --> 00:17:49,759 basketball game from BYU fans out there. 445 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 2: It's it's it's big, Ben, I will tell you what. 446 00:17:52,759 --> 00:17:54,359 And anytime you see it in by you've had a 447 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,440 matchup the b YU Faithful Travel Travel really well. You know, 448 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,240 we actually had a second dose of it be you 449 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,599 was in the Pop Tarts Bool which is in Orlando 450 00:18:03,319 --> 00:18:05,599 during the during the holiday season, and a ton of 451 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,039 folks from b YU made the track back down to 452 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,640 Orlando for that trip as well too, So always impressed 453 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,759 when whenever UCS has a chance to host b YU. 454 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,759 I think they'll do that again in the twenty twenty 455 00:18:15,799 --> 00:18:17,920 six football season, b Y, you will come to Orlando. 456 00:18:18,039 --> 00:18:21,160 So always always a lot of blue in the stands 457 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,960 when U c F and b YU play. They certainly 458 00:18:23,039 --> 00:18:25,000 are and have been one of those fan bases that 459 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,799 travel really really really well, but always do a great 460 00:18:27,839 --> 00:18:30,200 job of representing their school, but also being you know, 461 00:18:30,279 --> 00:18:32,559 classy fans too, right. I mean, obviously they sounded in 462 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,160 opposing arena. Sometimes ten persons flair and and things can 463 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,039 get out of control, but they think the b YU 464 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,039 fans have always been very respectful fans, good fans, know 465 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,440 their sports, know their teams, you know, want to root 466 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,160 for their teams, and they've had a lot to root 467 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,559 for Ben So it's been it's been a good stretch 468 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,079 for for the b YU sports teams. 469 00:18:49,759 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 3: How much of of a of a of an allure 470 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:59,279 is it in the recruiting process for football, basketball and 471 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,319 other sports there you see being that it's kind of 472 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:09,680 destination Orlando, good Weather, Disney, you know, the the Universal studios, 473 00:19:09,799 --> 00:19:12,880 Like how much does that play into the recruiting pitch 474 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,720 for some of these student athletes. 475 00:19:14,759 --> 00:19:18,079 Speaker 2: Do you think, yeah, it's certainly a topic that you see, 476 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,400 it brings up. They kind of got roasted on social 477 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,079 media recently. They had a graphic that went viral that 478 00:19:23,759 --> 00:19:26,200 cowded that Florida has no state tax, right, so for 479 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,240 athletes considering nil, they put that, I like put that 480 00:19:30,319 --> 00:19:32,559 out there. A bunch of other schools kind of you know, 481 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,599 made some memes off that too. It as will happen 482 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,920 in social media. I think it's definitely a selling point, 483 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,200 you know, as you're trying to get kids to think about, 484 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,599 you know, coming to Orlando. I think where you've seen 485 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,319 the most of ben is, you know, UCF maybe hasn't 486 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,359 been as consistent, especially in football, with getting those kids 487 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,920 maybe right out of high school. Right so the high school, 488 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,000 you know, the senior doesn't maybe take UCF out of 489 00:19:54,039 --> 00:19:56,440 the gate, but you give some pretty successful and that 490 00:19:56,599 --> 00:19:59,559 second second go round when kids entered the portal or 491 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,519 decide maybe their destination wasn't for them. I think that's 492 00:20:02,559 --> 00:20:04,759 where UCF has really been successful in their time. The 493 00:20:04,799 --> 00:20:06,680 big twelve is maybe not that first go round of 494 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,000 getting that athlete, but the second time when they get 495 00:20:09,039 --> 00:20:11,480 to portal, you know they have good relationships. Say hey, 496 00:20:11,519 --> 00:20:13,240 I remember the weather down there was nice. Hey I 497 00:20:13,319 --> 00:20:15,319 remember I could go do the hits. Hey I remember 498 00:20:15,319 --> 00:20:17,039 I I could go do that. And I think that's 499 00:20:17,079 --> 00:20:19,559 the part where UCF has been able to capitalize a ton. 500 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:21,880 It's maybe not as much as they'd like on that 501 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,000 first go round, but as kids entered the portal, I 502 00:20:24,039 --> 00:20:26,880 think you look at destinations, you look opportunities. I think 503 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,559 that's where Orlando and UCF try to shine through as 504 00:20:29,599 --> 00:20:32,119 a place that you can come and continue your sports career. 505 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: Adam Meeting ladies and gentlemen. 506 00:20:34,319 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 3: Adam, you're the coast and executive producer of Sons of 507 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:38,000 uc A podcast. 508 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: Best way to support you what you do, how you 509 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,559 do it for all of our listeners, Yeah. 510 00:20:42,519 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: Ben, a YouTube follow would be fantastic. Finds on YouTube 511 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,960 all of our stuff there on a video also at 512 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,480 audio podcast as well, and check out our website sends 513 00:20:49,559 --> 00:20:51,960 UCF dot com for all coverage of everything you see 514 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:52,119 it for. 515 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: Lady Adam, we appreciate you and thanks for hopping on 516 00:20:56,079 --> 00:20:57,119 for another folks segment. 517 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: We'll see in provo hopefully. 518 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: One of these days appreciate your bend. Thanks. 519 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: There you go. That's Adam Eaton. 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