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the boats. We're sailing off to uh Middle.

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Speaker 1: Where were you when you heard this.

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Speaker 3: News the new movie announcement? Yes, jeez again, you're asking

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me things that happened earlier this week, and it's really

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hard to remember.

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Speaker 1: I was. I was at work.

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Speaker 3: The officer at home can't remember. I was working. Probably

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saw it in the discord and I said, what the

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fuck is going on here? And then I closed discord,

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called back to work.

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Speaker 2: Something like that.

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Speaker 1: I was going to the gym with Travis and s

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plub showed the discord and it was like ten thirty

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at night in travel.

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Speaker 1: Peter Jackson and Stephen Colbert did this little video thing

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and it was released at night.

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Speaker 1: So Peter Jackson just starts He's talking and talking and

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it sounds like, okay, like hunt for Gallum stuff, and

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then they start going like, oh, you know, we're doing

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something else too. It's like, I'm gonna get this call

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going on here, I'm paraphrasing, And then Stephen Colbert joins

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into the call and he's talking about how he is

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writing a script for this sequel film, and both of

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them are basically just highlighting how it seems like Hunt

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and that this new Shadows of the Past movie is

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pulling a chapter off out of the books as well.

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was stuff that was not covered. There were chapters that

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are going to prop up and port the original trilogy

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of films. It's not going to replace it or change

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or anything like that. And so you're you're getting a

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lot of og people coming back in here. I mean,

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you're getting in Shadows of the Past, you're dealing with Sam,

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Mary and Pippen and the wake of Proto's death. But

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that confused me because not he went to the un

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dying lands. But I don't know how this shit works.

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tragic that would be, God damn, but yeah, they they're

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kind of reminiscing about times and going and following in

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their their footsteps of where their journey had gotten off.

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is her name here? Eleanor, Sam's daughter, so uh, okay,

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here's a synopsis PERMC. Fourteen years after the passing of Phrotos, Sam, Mary,

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and Pippen set out to retrace the first steps of

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their adventure. Meanwhile, Sam's daughter Eleanor has discovered a long

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braid secret and it's determined to uncover why the War

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the Ring was very nearly lost. Before it even began,

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ME and Travis spent like thirty minutes just wondering what

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the fuck that means, because like, what'd you come up with?

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I fuck all, Like, it's just it's I was hoping.

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Speaker 3: This thirty minute deliberation between two of my colos here

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Speaker 1: I mean, the War of the Ring. I was thinking, Okay,

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this must be when the elves and al Ron and

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the humans like a seal door and then marched on

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Mount Doom. Because this is when Sarahon was at like

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peak power and he had his ring propped on his

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hand and he was going to town. But that wasn't it. Obviously,

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the War of the Ring is the main focus of

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the original trilogy, so when you're just trying to think

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was with Shire Bagoons. You know, like it's just it's

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it's hard, but I'm curious, what's your interpretation of this?

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Speaker 1: Do?

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Speaker 3: And uh Sam? Why I can't remember the actors' names

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Speaker 3: For Hunt for I don't think I remembered that fact, okay,

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Dark Night movie or something.

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Speaker 1: It's like, no, that's fake, that's that's Okay, Travis, Travis

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dropped a hard false in the discord.

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Speaker 2: Let's just put that out. I don't I don't read

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this rise of like these talk show hosts coming in to.

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no more troll posts? Okay?

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Speaker 1: No, he said it was it was false.

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Speaker 2: He he didn't post that.

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what's going on here? Like do these guys are they

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like not in the writer's guild so you can like

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good He's obviously a comedy writer because he presumably writes

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a movie about just the three Hobbits screwing around is

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that knows the lower inside and out, read the books

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countless times, and just like lives and breathes the world

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of Middle Earth. So he is definitely the guy to

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maybe there is going to be something here. But I

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and it looks like Photo Bagans does eventually die in

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the Undying Lands. So he sailed there to heal and

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I.

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the movie at all. But geez, I don't know. I

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for sure, And that's dicey. That's definitely just so cash

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's Lord of the Rings.

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Speaker 2: Could have picked.

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Speaker 3: Now, I apparently am much lower Lord of the Ring

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Speaker 2: I I don't think that has a correlation. Unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair, And I don't think you're the only

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one out there feeling that way either. I know I

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that and feel a little bit not super hot and

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actually like, oh, let's fucking go, I'm writing. I was like, really,

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Return of the King sequel? Really okay? And that's another

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that we've made. Let's see Tolkien Day. What is Tolkien Day?

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Tolkien Reading Day celebrate annually in March twenty fifth from

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both the works of J. R. Tolkien. So there you go.

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Speaker 2: You know, we don't need all these days.

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Speaker 1: There is there certainly is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, what we do know is that we

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Speaker 3: That's the important one. What happens in AUGUSTA.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that we're narrowing down a weekend, but.

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Speaker 2: Think we'll ever do that? Book club?

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we're like in our seventy eighties, we'll just exclusively become

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a book club. We'll just talk about books at that point.

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Speaker 2: Right, that makes sense?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Cool. I'm trying to think what else is there in

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relation to this Lord of the Rings here? Oh?

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Speaker 2: I guess yeah.

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Speaker 1: Colbert is co writing the script with his son Peter McGee,

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So that's pretty cool. And franchise franchise veteran Philippa Boyans

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shout out to Filippa Bullyans. Yep. Yeah, I don't think

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we're gonna be seeing any more animated things. I still

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haven't seen war the or hear them. I don't know

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if I'm gonna get Should I get around to it?

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Should I bump that up the DOCA?

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Speaker 2: Definitely?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's not high priority because it's like

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not relevant, and no one talk better cares about it,

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but it was good. And to me, that's like a

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million times more interesting time and place instead of characters

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than either of these new movies that we have coming out.

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So even if you know that, even though even though

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it's already out and you know the quality isn't like exceptional,

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it still is like far more intriguing to me than

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like Hunter Gollum or does this does about having an

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name or it does have a name, Shadows of the past.

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It was far more interesting lower wise, I would say,

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than either of these two things that they're pushing out here.

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Speaker 1: See my, my, that's fair. I'll keep that in mind. Then.

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My prediction for Lord of the Rings four was the

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return of Saramon, but that was before I saw the

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extended additions and saw that he just fucking eats shit

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right in that movie, so he ain't coming back at all.

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But uh yeah, I don't know if I have anything

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else to add on this to you. Hm hm, no,

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we can move along, we can move along, okay. Well,