Speaker 1: And we are back and we are we're getting into
the boats. We're sailing off to uh Middle.
Speaker 2: Earth, Dylan, we are.
Speaker 1: Where were you when you heard this.
Speaker 3: News the new movie announcement? Yes, jeez again, you're asking
me things that happened earlier this week, and it's really
hard to remember.
Speaker 1: I was. I was at work.
Speaker 3: It probably dropped during the day, so I was probably working.
I was probably working.
Speaker 2: Uh what was it?
Speaker 3: The officer at home can't remember. I was working. Probably
saw it in the discord and I said, what the
fuck is going on here? And then I closed discord,
called back to work.
Speaker 2: Something like that.
Speaker 1: I was going to the gym with Travis and s
plub showed the discord and it was like ten thirty
at night in travel.
Speaker 2: Oh so it wasn't during the day. Okay, it was not.
Speaker 1: Peter Jackson and Stephen Colbert did this little video thing
and it was released at night.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was the video. I didn't watch that video.
What happened?
Speaker 1: So Peter Jackson just starts He's talking and talking and
it sounds like, okay, like hunt for Gallum stuff, and
then they start going like, oh, you know, we're doing
something else too. It's like, I'm gonna get this call
going on here, I'm paraphrasing, And then Stephen Colbert joins
into the call and he's talking about how he is
writing a script for this sequel film, and both of
them are basically just highlighting how it seems like Hunt
for Gallum obviously is pulling from the chapter from Fellowship,
and that this new Shadows of the Past movie is
pulling a chapter off out of the books as well.
Just that was something that Stephen Colbert was highlighting was
Fellowship with the Ring was a great movie, but there
was stuff that was not covered. There were chapters that
were skipped over in the movie. So these two films
serve as a platform that tackle those missing chapters, but
are going to prop up and port the original trilogy
of films. It's not going to replace it or change
or anything like that. And so you're you're getting a
lot of og people coming back in here. I mean,
you're getting in Shadows of the Past, you're dealing with Sam,
Mary and Pippen and the wake of Proto's death. But
that confused me because not he went to the un
dying lands. But I don't know how this shit works.
But they're basically going to the boat over. Yeah, how
tragic that would be, God damn, but yeah, they they're
kind of reminiscing about times and going and following in
their their footsteps of where their journey had gotten off.
And so I don't even remember her name. Uh what
is her name here? Eleanor, Sam's daughter, so uh, okay,
here's a synopsis PERMC. Fourteen years after the passing of Phrotos, Sam, Mary,
and Pippen set out to retrace the first steps of
their adventure. Meanwhile, Sam's daughter Eleanor has discovered a long
braid secret and it's determined to uncover why the War
the Ring was very nearly lost. Before it even began,
ME and Travis spent like thirty minutes just wondering what
the fuck that means, because like, what'd you come up with?
I fuck all, Like, it's just it's I was hoping.
Speaker 3: This thirty minute deliberation between two of my colos here
would come up with some a good explanation.
Speaker 1: I mean, the War of the Ring. I was thinking, Okay,
this must be when the elves and al Ron and
the humans like a seal door and then marched on
Mount Doom. Because this is when Sarahon was at like
peak power and he had his ring propped on his
hand and he was going to town. But that wasn't it. Obviously,
the War of the Ring is the main focus of
the original trilogy, so when you're just trying to think
why it was the war was nearly lost before even began.
Is this gonna be tied into Hunt for Gollum where
she learns oh, Gollum told the Orcs where the Ring
was with Shire Bagoons. You know, like it's just it's
it's hard, but I'm curious, what's your interpretation of this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't know what the heck's going on
this definitely like I don't know if this is like
this can't be from what you're saying earlier, then like, oh,
let's fill in the gaps from Fellowship, Like this is
not that right because obviously Sam like didn't have a
daughter then started Fellowship of the Ring. So maybe there's
like parts of that, or maybe there's like a flashback
or something to some of these these times fill in some.
Speaker 2: Of those gaps.
Speaker 3: But this just seems like some new some new fiction,
and I don't know, it's it's you know, I have
to imagine part of that, Like, I guess, are all
those Hobbits coming back?
Speaker 1: Do?
Speaker 2: We got Billy Billy Bob there?
Speaker 3: And uh Sam? Why I can't remember the actors' names
all the top of.
Speaker 1: My dome here Sean Aston. Yeah, Travis was convinced that
because they got Froto coming back and they're gonna d
h him in Hunt for Gollum, that you're gonna see
that wait coming back.
Speaker 3: For Hunt for I don't think I remembered that fact, okay,
but so, but he didn't want to come back for
this Hobbit story.
Speaker 1: One.
Speaker 3: I feel like if he did, if he was open
to it, I feel like, wouldn't they change the story?
I guess it wouldn't really make sense because why would
Froto like come back to just power around after he
makes that decision to return of the King.
Speaker 2: I don't know. This whole thing seems kind of strange.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: The weird part about this too is like this news
dropped and then like a day later or something I
saw in the discord that Conan O'Brien's writing like a
Dark Night movie or something.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, that's fake, that's that's Okay, Travis, Travis
dropped a hard false in the discord.
Speaker 2: Let's just put that out. I don't I don't read
these things within enough of detail. Okay.
Speaker 3: So I was about to say, what is up with
this rise of like these talk show hosts coming in to.
Speaker 2: Uh write these major IP scripts? So Travis, you got
no more troll posts? Okay?
Speaker 3: And the discord those are banned. Uh you ban Travis
for me as the lead moderator on our discord.
Speaker 1: No, he said it was it was false.
Speaker 2: He he didn't post that.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, Well man, whoever put that in the Uh,
you don't have to Bama. I'm just kidding, Okay, that
that that's good because I was I was gonna say,
what's going on here? Like do these guys are they
like not in the writer's guild so you can like
pay them less as like something like that.
Speaker 2: Like something weird workaround.
Speaker 3: But I mean, I don't know, is is Colbert a
good He's obviously a comedy writer because he presumably writes
a lot of the jokes for his shows and whatnot.
Speaker 2: But like, I don't know, is this I had? This
is so weird to me.
Speaker 3: This is such a strange choice of combination of people,
So I don't know. Maybe it is gonna be more
of a silly comedic thing or whatever, But I don't know.
This this seems like a even worse cash grab attempt
than like Hunt of Gollum, which seems like, you know,
they're at least getting so many people back, and it's
close enough for the story, and it's using a lot
of the beloved characters. But I don't know how like
a movie about just the three Hobbits screwing around is
gonna do, especially if you don't get those actors back,
which I assume they'd only do this if they could
get those actors back.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think you're getting the actress back. But Stephen Colbert
and I was not aware of this before, but I
was reaffirmed this by Travis and online too, a lot
of people were talking about how he is a absolute
whiz when it comes to other rings. This guy is
probably like one of the biggest people on the planet
that knows the lower inside and out, read the books
countless times, and just like lives and breathes the world
of Middle Earth. So he is definitely the guy to
go to for this information. Which reinforces my confidence that, Okay,
maybe there is going to be something here. But I
was doing a little bit of a little fact check,
and it looks like Photo Bagans does eventually die in
the Undying Lands. So he sailed there to heal and
whatnot from his his physical wounds. But the en dying
Lands do not grant immortality to mortals. They only allow
mortals to live out the remaining days in peace rather
than dying of pain and in the Middle Earth world,
so he does die. So that's the point where, Yeah,
the three Hobbits kind of start to gather and reminisce,
so at least in that sense, it's not just pulled
out of out of thin air. He like, Photo dying
is part of the story.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Just specifically this part about them retracing their steps is like.
Speaker 2: Why, why, why? Why is that what we're doing here?
Speaker 3: Back to the cornfields and run away from the farm. Yeah,
I don't know, And like, who's the villain of this,
Like they obviously aren't going tracing them around. Yeah, I
guess we could do some bomb like that. To me
when I heard that you say that they want to
fill in some of the gaps from fellowship, not necessarily
with this, but between this and n for gomm I
gotta think, oh, Bombadoll makes sense because that was a
big thing of the books that didn't make it into
the movie at all. But geez, I don't know. I
this is less intriguing for me than than for Gollum,
for sure, And that's dicey. That's definitely just so cash
gravy that it's hard for me to be extremely hyped
about it.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 3: I'll probably be there still, but uh, I don't know.
I feel like this is one of the one of
the weaker plot lines they.
Speaker 2: Could have picked.
Speaker 3: Now, I apparently am much lower Lord of the Ring
is lower level than the writer.
Speaker 2: Of this movie.
Speaker 3: But does that translate into an intriguing script or a
place that I really want to see more characters in development?
Speaker 2: I I don't think that has a correlation. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair, And I don't think you're the only
one out there feeling that way either. I know I
expected one of my friends to na kind of reciprocate
that and feel a little bit not super hot and
heavy on this. When I shared the news, he was
actually like, oh, let's fucking go, I'm writing. I was like, really,
Return of the King sequel? Really okay? And that's another
thing too that me and Travis highlighted was this Hunt
for Gallum is what two years out, which means that
we're looking at this movie being in four years away.
It's still got some longevity to it. So why announce
it now at like midnight? This is something that could
have been dropped another point in time. But it was
like Tolkien Day or something Travis was saying. So I
don't know, it's a little peculiar just to yeah, is
that his birthday or is it just an arbitrary day
that we've made. Let's see Tolkien Day. What is Tolkien Day?
Tolkien Reading Day celebrate annually in March twenty fifth from
both the works of J. R. Tolkien. So there you go.
That's they announced a new movie on days day days.
Speaker 2: You know, we don't need all these days.
Speaker 1: There is there certainly is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, what we do know is that we
do need GV Day.
Speaker 3: That's the important one. What happens in AUGUSTA.
Speaker 1: Yes, that we're narrowing down a weekend, but.
Speaker 2: It's not always the same day for us. That's the
thing where Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's true. GV Reading Day, that'll be the next thing
that we introduced. Its like Tokien Reading Day.
Speaker 2: Think we'll ever do that? Book club?
Speaker 3: We've done a little bit of comic book stuff, but
do you think we'll ever I guess you guys have
reviewed some books, some Star Wars books.
Speaker 1: Right, we've read some Star Wars books. I think when
we're like in our seventy eighties, we'll just exclusively become
a book club. We'll just talk about books at that point.
Speaker 2: Right, that makes sense?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Cool. I'm trying to think what else is there in
relation to this Lord of the Rings here? Oh?
Speaker 2: I guess yeah.
Speaker 1: Colbert is co writing the script with his son Peter McGee,
So that's pretty cool. And franchise franchise veteran Philippa Boyans
shout out to Filippa Bullyans. Yep. Yeah, I don't think
we're gonna be seeing any more animated things. I still
haven't seen war the or hear them. I don't know
if I'm gonna get Should I get around to it?
Should I bump that up the DOCA?
Speaker 2: Definitely?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's not high priority because it's like
not relevant, and no one talk better cares about it,
but it was good. And to me, that's like a
million times more interesting time and place instead of characters
than either of these new movies that we have coming out.
So even if you know that, even though even though
it's already out and you know the quality isn't like exceptional,
it still is like far more intriguing to me than
like Hunter Gollum or does this does about having an
name or it does have a name, Shadows of the past.
It was far more interesting lower wise, I would say,
than either of these two things that they're pushing out here.
Speaker 1: See my, my, that's fair. I'll keep that in mind. Then.
My prediction for Lord of the Rings four was the
return of Saramon, but that was before I saw the
extended additions and saw that he just fucking eats shit
right in that movie, so he ain't coming back at all.
But uh yeah, I don't know if I have anything
else to add on this to you. Hm hm, no,
we can move along, we can move along, okay. Well,