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<v Speaker 1>It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot wait. I cannot wait for September tenth. Cannot wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, this is gonna be mussy TV. And

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<v Speaker 2>I swear to god, you don't even have to be

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<v Speaker 2>into politics, you really don't. You do not have to

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<v Speaker 2>be in the politics to want to see this. This

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be incredible. This is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a phenomenal debate. Unbelievable. I'm gonna I have some comments

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<v Speaker 2>on this coming up. I am like a caddickt Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea and if I look both candidates,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, I'm Gary Tagway. If it didn't Y

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<v Speaker 2>Nicole mentioned that, thank you very much. I appreciate that

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<v Speaker 2>Dan is off this week. This is Nightside here until

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<v Speaker 2>twelve midnight. I'll run down the show for you in

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<v Speaker 2>just a minute here. But when the announcement came down

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<v Speaker 2>that September tenth is gonna be the debate, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be in Philadelphia. You can listen to it here

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<v Speaker 2>in WBZ Boston's news radio. You can also catch it

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<v Speaker 2>on the iHeart mobile app, which you should have you

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<v Speaker 2>on your phone. I mean, if you don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really understand why not. But the iHeart mobile ops tremendous.

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't wait to see these two go at

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<v Speaker 2>it a Vice President Harrison former President Donald Trump, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know they It's so funny to me. It's so

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<v Speaker 2>comical that Trump's party, or at Trump's people, they want

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<v Speaker 2>the rules, right, I mean, they want the rules they

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<v Speaker 2>want Okay, this is this is the deal. Trump announced

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<v Speaker 2>on truth Social that he has accepted the September tenth

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<v Speaker 2>debate on ABC under the same conditions of the June

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<v Speaker 2>CNN debate. So here are the rules. Microphone will only

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<v Speaker 2>be turned on when it is there turned to speak.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, I thought this is probably Trump's people

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<v Speaker 2>talking to try to protect him from himself, because if

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<v Speaker 2>he leaves the microphone on, he's gonna blow it. He's

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<v Speaker 2>just he won't be able to control himself. Also, no

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<v Speaker 2>studio audience, which I think sucks. You have to have

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<v Speaker 2>a studio audience for a debate. Come on, you gotta.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they should do it like the price is right,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think they should have an announcer. Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>come on down, Kamala Harris, come on down. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to have a studio audience. You have to have some juice.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he could have some celebrities, you know in the audience,

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<v Speaker 2>various people. Jennifer Lopez. Hey, Jennifer Lopez is here today.

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<v Speaker 2>She's in the audience. Uh, what else here?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>The candidates are not allowed to talk to their staff

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<v Speaker 2>during breaks, that's fine, or bring any with them, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>They can only have a pen and a pad and

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<v Speaker 2>a bottle of water. Is that just one bottle of water?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that just one o? You only allowed one bottle

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<v Speaker 2>of robber water? H The consumer of entertainment wants the

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<v Speaker 2>mics turned on. If you want to see a bleep show,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to see just a twenty five car

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<v Speaker 2>pile up on a stage, you want the mics on.

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<v Speaker 2>You do you want these two to go at it?

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to be reasonable, if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>be a person of education, if you want to be

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<v Speaker 2>a little high brow, you want the microphones off. I

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<v Speaker 2>love it. You know in the past when Harris Well,

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<v Speaker 2>she did it in the past vice president vice presidential debates, right,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a sir, mister vice president, I'm speaking, mister

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<v Speaker 2>vice president. I'm speaking. Here's the thing with Harris and

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<v Speaker 2>she was okay with CNN and Dana Bass, she was okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is Harris sometimes isn't forceful enough when she

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<v Speaker 2>says something. I mean, I said this last night. Rob

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<v Speaker 2>Brooks is with us back. Rob, good to see you

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<v Speaker 2>again on the other side of the window. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>you are listening on your night off. If you were,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a problem. But Donald Trump will say garbage

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<v Speaker 2>tastes great with peanut butter when the sky is pink,

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<v Speaker 2>and people will go absolutely because he says it with

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<v Speaker 2>such enthusiasm and such conviction. I do believe that Vice

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<v Speaker 2>President Harris is trying to be correct, but sometimes she

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<v Speaker 2>waffles in what she's saying. She stumbles a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>she thinks about it. Let's face it, when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to the presidential election, why worry about being right? Why

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<v Speaker 2>worry about being accurate? It doesn't matter because the guy

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<v Speaker 2>that's never been accurate got elected and he continues to

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<v Speaker 2>be in the race, and he still may win. So

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at the score sheets and it won't

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<v Speaker 2>even bother anymore. You know, the fact checks when Trump speaks,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a mile long. Nobody cares if you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna vote for Trump. You're going to vote for Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>whether he has thirty misfacts if you will, or lives

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever you want to call it, on a list nobody.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not going to change anybody's mind, Like all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, somebody's not going to look at them and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you got that wrong. I'm gonna vote for him. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna happen. And when they've done a fact check

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<v Speaker 2>with Vice President Harris and I will admit that I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't looked at every one of them. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of things, you know, like you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a gray area. I think there was a fact check

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<v Speaker 2>after the C and N interview, and there was a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of things that maybe she wasn't exact on, but

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<v Speaker 2>she was in the neighborhood, not like not like Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just he just doesn't care. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know something, why should Donald Trump care? The facts don't

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<v Speaker 2>matter and he still could be president again, so he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna keep doing what he's doing. If the microphones stay on,

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<v Speaker 2>I think she will destroy Trump. And that's what he's

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<v Speaker 2>worried about. If the microphones stay on, she destroys Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>You know why, because that's when she's at her best.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you right now. And this is what I

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<v Speaker 2>thought the problem with Secretary of State Clinton was. And

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<v Speaker 2>Hillary Clinton is a brilliant woman. We all know that,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was there was just a misconnection. She didn't

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<v Speaker 2>connect with women in some areas. I think Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 2>connects with women. I think Kamala Harris connects with her

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<v Speaker 2>bas big time. I think she's increased the base quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>with the brats and the young Democrats and people who

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<v Speaker 2>are now going to vote that weren't even thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>voting for the two old geezers before. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to be the difference. I mean, if you said,

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<v Speaker 2>right now, Tangue, what's going to happen, I'll say, I

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<v Speaker 2>think Harris is gonna win. And I think it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be because of the young people who turn out.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I think is gonna I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be close as hell. Do I know she's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a good president. I have no idea. I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, Trump had the job, he's more qualified

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<v Speaker 2>than her, right if he had the job, already, nobody

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<v Speaker 2>trusts him. I mean, he's out of his mind. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if she can do it. She was picked

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<v Speaker 2>as a vice president, you know, with Joe Biden, probably

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<v Speaker 2>because they wanted to appeal to certain sections that Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden wouldn't appeal to. And now she's going to be president.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think this was anybody's plan, but that's what

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<v Speaker 2>happens a lot. I mean, look, Harry Truman, we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it last night. Vice presidents or people who became

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<v Speaker 2>great presidents and surprise people, and Harris could be one

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<v Speaker 2>of them because this is what she does well, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is why she was I think successful as a

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<v Speaker 2>prosecutor is if she gets pissed off, she will go

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<v Speaker 2>for the jugular with him. We've seen it before when

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<v Speaker 2>she tries to be smart and intelligent and keep the

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<v Speaker 2>gloves on I shouldn't say intelligent. When she keeps the

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<v Speaker 2>gloves on. When she tries to play nice and is

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<v Speaker 2>very cautious with her words, that's when she gets in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>When she gets passionate about something, that's when she's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>So my advice to Kamala Harris would be, don't think,

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<v Speaker 2>just go after him. Don't think, just do. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it is going to be fantastic television. It is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be fantastic television. And I hope there's more than one.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they could squeeze them all in.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Kenny, what we got, what the hell are Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you could do another one in thirty days. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be glued to the TV man. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna be to meet from me watching Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 2>and Donald Trump go out and the presidential election will

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<v Speaker 2>be like watching. It's gonna be Sunday at one or

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<v Speaker 2>Monday night football or the NBA Finals. I cannot wait

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<v Speaker 2>for this. I think it's gonna be awesome. And if

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<v Speaker 2>they leave the mics on, she will shred him, shred him,

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I think. That's why he wants the mics off.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you want the show, keep the mics on.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want an intellectual conversation, boring, keep them off.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Coming up here on wc's Night, said Gary

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<v Speaker 2>Tankway from the again for Dan Ray. Chris Bauer, who

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<v Speaker 2>is one of my favorite actors. You may not know

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<v Speaker 2>the name, but you know the shows he's been in

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<v Speaker 2>Frank from the Wire, He's in The Gemstones, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>not the Jemstones. The Gemstones was last night. He's in

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<v Speaker 2>Eels as wild Bill. He's a terrific actor, has been

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<v Speaker 2>in a number I mean, he's got one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>six credits. It's phenomenal, just absolutely phenomenal. So True Blood

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<v Speaker 2>was in True Blood played the drug addicted sheriff. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to join us coming up at ten o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love to give attention to actors who deserve it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like the Michael Mallleys of the world or

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<v Speaker 2>the Donnie Wahlbergs of the world, who are phenomenal character actors.

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<v Speaker 2>And Bauer is right there, and my friend the freak

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<v Speaker 2>from the Left Coast, mister Moderate Sam Metha, joins us

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<v Speaker 2>at ten o'clock. He's got a lot to say about

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<v Speaker 2>both sides of the aisle with this. Coming up next,

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<v Speaker 2>Samantha Gross is going to join us from the Boss Globe.

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<v Speaker 2>Why the hell should we did something happen today? Politically

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary tagway for tonight. There was something going on politically today.

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<v Speaker 2>Samantha Gross is going to join us here from the

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<v Speaker 2>Boston Globe.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And the primaries in which well, as one would expect

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<v Speaker 2>that the Democrats many people running out of post. Nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 2>Samantha got the assignment from the Globe. Samantha fill us in,

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<v Speaker 2>how was it today? How was it? Was this the

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<v Speaker 2>easiest gig ever?

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<v Speaker 4>It definitely was quieter than than other elections I've covered.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, there there was a primary election you know

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<v Speaker 4>today across the state in Massachusetts, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 4>and there were some interesting races to follow. But it definitely,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, was a quieter, quiet cycle for primaries than

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<v Speaker 4>in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about that and we'll get it to this how

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<v Speaker 2>I want your opinion, or at least shed some light

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<v Speaker 2>on those other races that are imported. But obviously Elizabeth Warren,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that she's the big name, she's running an

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<v Speaker 2>opposed and there are three Republicans competing today and the

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<v Speaker 2>results and yet I'm not even sure I was just

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<v Speaker 2>checking they're not.

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<v Speaker 4>Some precincts are reporting, but it's a really low percentage,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's really hard to say, but yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>there are three Republicans that were running, you know, to

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<v Speaker 4>hopefully compete against Senator Elizabeth Warren in November. Bob antonellis

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<v Speaker 4>who's an engineer, Ian Kayan has a Quincy City Council president,

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<v Speaker 2>Now, now Deeton, this was interesting. I read in your

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<v Speaker 2>column or your article that Deeton moved from Rhode Island

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<v Speaker 4>It's interesting. Yeah, he doesn't have a long history in Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 4>but he does have the best funded campaign. He loaned

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<v Speaker 4>be interesting to see, you know, how much money plays

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<v Speaker 2>Did they have a shot at putting a dent in Warren?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean putting a dent? She said, damn popular, and

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's it's it's difficult. She's She's really popular in

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<v Speaker 4>I think that it's raised, you know, some awareness about

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<v Speaker 4>kind of cryptocurrency, which has been a really big talking

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<v Speaker 4>point for a lot of the folks in this race,

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<v Speaker 4>specifically Ian Kane and John Deaton. But you know, we'll

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<v Speaker 4>see because what.

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<v Speaker 2>With crypto, Because what's the deal with crypto? Because I

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<v Speaker 2>know friends of mine that have had it. I stay

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, you know, Elizabeth Warren has been one of

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<v Speaker 4>critic uh critics of blockchain and cryptocurrency. That's been a

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<v Speaker 4>long day. And you know Ian Kane he co founded

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<v Speaker 4>of just been you know, a piece of Warren's reputation

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<v Speaker 4>it is really popular and you know, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have, Crypto, I personally do not afgre why

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<v Speaker 2>You know why? You know why Smith, Because we don't

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<v Speaker 2>mean now I'm talking loaded, Yes, Crypto. You know why,

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<v Speaker 2>because if it goes south, he's still okay. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>That's the way I look at it. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>also reading reading today that the Governor's Council is what

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen people running for the chindig and what did they do?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Yeah, the Governor's Council is one of the buzzier races.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there's a lot of folks running for a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of seats on the Governor's Council. They do kind

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<v Speaker 4>of you know, it's obscure, but they do important things.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, they confirm judges. They you know, they review

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<v Speaker 4>pardon recommendations from the governor. You know, things that have

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people don't know what they do. A lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people don't even know who their governor's counselor is.

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<v Speaker 4>But yes, it's become a buzzy racist cycle for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you got some juice with it, I mean because

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<v Speaker 2>when I read it when they said that the pardons,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think you can probably elaborate on this more

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<v Speaker 2>than me. They're a number of different pardons, correct, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean we're not necessarily talking about somebody that's good pardons

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<v Speaker 2>for being wrongly corrected, for a capital motor or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that, convicted, I should say. But you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you have the ability to pardon someone at a number

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<v Speaker 2>of levels, that's a very powerful position.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and they're also in politically charged you know, these

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<v Speaker 4>this is these are recommended, you know, by the governor

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<v Speaker 4>and so you know, depending on the administration, it can

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<v Speaker 4>look really different, and so they operate pretty you know,

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<v Speaker 4>in relative obscurities, I think the way how we framed

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<v Speaker 4>it in our story. But they do have a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of power, yeah, when it comes to pardons, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>judicial nominees who obviously you know, play a really important

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, especially when you talk about the judicial nominees,

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<v Speaker 2>because I've known a lot of lawyers and attorneys, and

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<v Speaker 2>they love the judge. Ship man, you're on the back nine,

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<v Speaker 2>get them out a bench and they can just cruise.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I had a friend of mine. It was

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<v Speaker 2>actually a judge. I don't know if I should be

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<v Speaker 2>I said to him, how how do you do it? Sometimes?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you like listen to all of this all

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<v Speaker 2>day long? Said? Sometimes I balance my check book while

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't fall asleep. And I said, wow, man,

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<v Speaker 2>that's crazy. But the guy was brilliant, so I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he could. He could. He was certainly well prepared. They're like,

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<v Speaker 2>Anything else interesting today, any other nugget or something you

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, like I said, there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of competitive races for the state House. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>Beacon Hill in the legislature, but there are a few

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<v Speaker 4>incumbent facing challengers, and that doesn't happen super often.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm actually sitting right now in the parking lot of

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<v Speaker 4>Marjorie Decker, who's a Cambridge Democrat running for state Rep.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm at her her party and her her campaign has

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<v Speaker 4>been really interesting because she's a long time in combent.

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<v Speaker 4>She's been in you know, the legislature for decades, and

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<v Speaker 4>she is facing a challenger for the first time in

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<v Speaker 4>his union organizer, Evan McKay, and they've focused their campaign

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<v Speaker 4>really around, you know, legislative efficiency and let the lack

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<v Speaker 4>of transparency and Beacon Hell, which has become you know,

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<v Speaker 4>has gotten a lot of attention, you know, in this

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<v Speaker 4>past legislative session. So that's one that I'm watching personally

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<v Speaker 4>because I've been covering that race. But there are a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of state reps, or a bunch there's in the

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<v Speaker 4>team state reps and senators that are that are being challenged,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'll be watching those races just because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and very few of them get challenged, so that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>I'm keeping a close eye on Samantha Gross's whether us

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<v Speaker 2>at the Boston Globe. She's covering the primaries today. The

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<v Speaker 2>thing I find fascinating about Massachusetts is that while it

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<v Speaker 2>is a blue state, we've had Republican governors. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're Mitt Romney, who was a really nice guy and

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<v Speaker 2>him compared to Trump, the dude a liberal, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Salucci. Uh, you know, we've had William Weld. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was a Republican at the time before. Why

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<v Speaker 2>is that? Do you have any idea why that happens?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that kind of brand of moderate conservatism was

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<v Speaker 4>really you know, that was like a marquee for Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 4>for a long time. Obviously, the party has changed a

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<v Speaker 4>lot under you know, it's various leadership. I know you

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<v Speaker 4>guys have probably covered this of you know, some of

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<v Speaker 4>the tumults within the Massachusetts GOP, and so they don't

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<v Speaker 4>have that big tent reputation anymore. I think they're trying

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<v Speaker 4>to rebuild that. But yeah, they you know, have alienated

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of those moderate conservatives after calling I think

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<v Speaker 4>they called you know, Charlie Baker rhino at the time

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<v Speaker 4>when he when he didn't vote for Trump anyway, So

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<v Speaker 4>I think like the brand has deteriorated a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, we do have a history of having conservative

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<v Speaker 2>Governors, conservative governors that are reasonable, you know, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>just reasonable. I mean, look, what reason's gone out the window?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we all know that it's it's it's Banana's,

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<v Speaker 2>but Charlie Baker's another one. Just you know, a reasonable

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<v Speaker 2>situation or somebody you could have a conversation with, somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that you may disagree with, but you're not gonna call

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<v Speaker 2>each other names, and you can have a conversation with

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<v Speaker 2>But you're right, I mean, that's that's not the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Even Scott Brown. I remember when Scott Brown won, you

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<v Speaker 2>know that pulled off that upset and Scott was a

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<v Speaker 2>moderate as well, and he had a pickup truck and

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<v Speaker 2>people like that. So, hey, do you have any my

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<v Speaker 2>opening comment I talked about the the debate coming up

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<v Speaker 2>on the tenth, and I assume you're a It sounds

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<v Speaker 2>to me like you're a political junkie. That's why you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing what you're doing. I cannot wait for Harris Trump

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<v Speaker 2>ding ding, sound the bell, let's go take the gloves off.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think about this?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm definitely interested to see. I mean, it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>be on the two of them. Both campaigns have been

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<v Speaker 4>really active. You know, in recent weeks, Vice President has

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<v Speaker 4>is launching her Reproductive Freedom bus tour that's going, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>around the country right now. I know that it kicked off,

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<v Speaker 4>I think today in Palm Beach, near near Donald Trump's home.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, meanwhile, you know, Trump lawyers are are

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<v Speaker 4>in court trying to help proceedings in his criminal case.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, it's just it'll I don't know, it'll be

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<v Speaker 4>really interesting. I'm really curious to hear what they have

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<v Speaker 4>to stand one of the big issues. And yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 4>you know, there's been so much change in that race

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<v Speaker 4>lately that yeah, it'll be interesting to see it kind

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. I mean on CNN tonight they were

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and we've heard this, the prosecutor against the convict,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but the strategy was she needs to act

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<v Speaker 2>like a prosecutor, like she's going after him, the criminal.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, oh my god, what is this. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the presidency of the United States. We've lost our minds.

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<v Speaker 2>We've lost our freaking minds. Thank you very much Samantha

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<v Speaker 2>for joining us. Great job, Thanks for filling us into

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<v Speaker 2>what was going on today with the primary Samantha Gross

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<v Speaker 2>of the Boston Globe, Best of luck, talk to you

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<v Speaker 2>again soon. Thanks for having me, all right, Samantha, good job.

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<v Speaker 2>So there you have it. There you have it, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Shaughnessy's coming up in eight forty five. Boston College, Boston College,

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<v Speaker 2>go get them. Billy O'Brien, the BC egos pulling up

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<v Speaker 2>a huge upset over SSU Florida State University. Does this

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<v Speaker 2>mean college football is going to be back at the

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<v Speaker 2>heights because we're not a college town. We all know that.

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<v Speaker 2>But there have been periods in BC's history, whether it

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<v Speaker 2>be Doug Flutie or Matt Ryan, where we wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>follow BC and flute was the big thing because he

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we know that.

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<v Speaker 2>And Billy O'Brien's a local guy, went to Brown North

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<v Speaker 2>andover love that guy. Good for him. That's all coming

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<v Speaker 2>have some thoughts on why we should all be wearing

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<v Speaker 2>long pants on WBC's Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on the Night Side with Dan Ray on wb Z,

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<v Speaker 1>Boston's news radio.

418
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<v Speaker 2>Dan Shaughnessy joins us, coming up in about ten minutes

419
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<v Speaker 2>talking about BC let's hear it for the Eagles man

420
00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:53.599
<v Speaker 2>the Heights and they went on the road. They won

421
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<v Speaker 2>on the road against Florida State. The Eagles are back. Baby,

422
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<v Speaker 2>Dad's gonna talk about that. Coming up at eight five.

423
00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:06.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm as I get older, I have become such an alarmist.

424
00:24:06.680 --> 00:24:09.119
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's just the way it is. When

425
00:24:09.160 --> 00:24:13.440
<v Speaker 2>you're eighteen, you're nineteen, you're invincible, you're twenty. Nothing's gonna

426
00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:17.480
<v Speaker 2>hurt me. Not a little mosquito. Oh no, not a

427
00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:22.880
<v Speaker 2>little insect. That's not gonna bother me. If they try

428
00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:24.480
<v Speaker 2>to take some blood out of me, I'm just gonna

429
00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:30.880
<v Speaker 2>smack it. But with this West now virus situation, it

430
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<v Speaker 2>scares the hell out of me, It really does. It

431
00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:38.200
<v Speaker 2>scares the hell out of me. WYV risk levels in

432
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<v Speaker 2>the following area of communities raised too high. Sagas in

433
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<v Speaker 2>Essex County, Arlington, Belmont, Malden, Medford, Melrose, Middlesex, Middlesex County,

434
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<v Speaker 2>I should say Chelsea, Revere, Revere, Winthrop in Suffolk County.

435
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<v Speaker 2>I get a first hand frost nothing like a good

436
00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:06.480
<v Speaker 2>frost unless you leave the plants out, and you still

437
00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:10.200
<v Speaker 2>get stuff in the garden. While the temperatures may be

438
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<v Speaker 2>a bit cooler, September is still within the peak time

439
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<v Speaker 2>for West NOOW virus activity in Massachusetts, said Public Health

440
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<v Speaker 2>Commissioner Robbie Goldstein, who was an MD and a PhD.

441
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<v Speaker 2>So this is serious stuff. It really is. And my

442
00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:27.359
<v Speaker 2>family looks at me a little weird because I mean,

443
00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:30.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm wearing shorts now, but I'm in a studio and

444
00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:34.519
<v Speaker 2>I walked ten feet in my car. But even if

445
00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:36.400
<v Speaker 2>it was hot out, I'd taken the dogs for a walk.

446
00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:38.640
<v Speaker 2>I do the long sleeves, I do the pants, I

447
00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:41.839
<v Speaker 2>do the socks. Even the other night, I said, let's

448
00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:43.640
<v Speaker 2>stay in. Let's not go, let's not sit on the

449
00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:49.240
<v Speaker 2>back porch. Let's just stay in and take it easy here,

450
00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:53.160
<v Speaker 2>because as we have seen, this has resulted in some

451
00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:57.359
<v Speaker 2>tragedy strat excuse me, tragedy as I attempted to be dramatic,

452
00:25:58.039 --> 00:26:02.839
<v Speaker 2>and tragic deaths. I mean, we know that I feel terrible.

453
00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:06.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, how bad is that You're going about your

454
00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:08.039
<v Speaker 2>business and you get a mosquito bite. You don't think

455
00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:11.720
<v Speaker 2>anything's wrong. I mean, that's just terrible. It's haunting, feel

456
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:18.960
<v Speaker 2>awful for that family. Terrible, terrible, terrible. One man in

457
00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:21.599
<v Speaker 2>his fifties exposed in Suffolk County, the other man in

458
00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:25.359
<v Speaker 2>his eighties exposed in southern Middlesex County, and we know

459
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:28.759
<v Speaker 2>there was a fatality in New Hampshire. So folks, put

460
00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:31.680
<v Speaker 2>on the long sleeves at night, use the bug spray,

461
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:34.559
<v Speaker 2>get out the deet, get on the socks, put on

462
00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:37.359
<v Speaker 2>the long pants. Even if it's a little warm. We

463
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:42.000
<v Speaker 2>still have some warm days ahead. You know me, If

464
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<v Speaker 2>you need to do the shorts of the T shirt,

465
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<v Speaker 2>you can maybe do it in the morning when there's

466
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:49.200
<v Speaker 2>a light breeze, but still put on the repellence. I

467
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<v Speaker 2>know I sound like your father here, but do it. Absolutely,

468
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<v Speaker 2>do it. All right, Rob, We're gonna break a little

469
00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:58.519
<v Speaker 2>older because I got Dan Shaughnessy coming in and we're

470
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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about the re energized BC Eagles at

471
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:06.160
<v Speaker 2>the Heights with a former Patriot coach that is making

472
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<v Speaker 2>it happen. It's all coming up on WBC's Nightside. Gary

473
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Tangway for Denray.

474
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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Danray Live from the Window World Light

475
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<v Speaker 1>Side Studios on WBZ News video.

476
00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.279
<v Speaker 2>BC's back, baby, It's awesome. It's all. Look, this is

477
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:24.000
<v Speaker 2>not a college football town. We all know it. Dan

478
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:26.799
<v Speaker 2>Shaughnessy joining me, my friend here from the Boston Globe.

479
00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:31.119
<v Speaker 2>The Boston College Eagles pulled off a mammoth upset. I mean, Danny,

480
00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:33.559
<v Speaker 2>they were like sixteen and a half point underdogs. They

481
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<v Speaker 2>come out on the road at Florida State University and

482
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:39.880
<v Speaker 2>they take him to the woodshed. How about that? That

483
00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:42.079
<v Speaker 2>was something. It was fun. I mean, when BC's good,

484
00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:42.799
<v Speaker 2>it's fun, right.

485
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:45.359
<v Speaker 3>That was really impressive.

486
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:47.960
<v Speaker 5>I tuned in and I'm not a big college football

487
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:50.359
<v Speaker 5>dog like most people who live here. I know, the

488
00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:53.480
<v Speaker 5>reach of the program that you're anchoring here is is

489
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:55.799
<v Speaker 5>very vast and goes to many places that are college

490
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:59.640
<v Speaker 5>football towns and areas, and we just don't happen.

491
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<v Speaker 3>To be one pro town.

492
00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:03.920
<v Speaker 5>But that was for BC, I mean, about as good

493
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:05.640
<v Speaker 5>as it's gotten the last forty years. I mean, it

494
00:28:05.720 --> 00:28:09.680
<v Speaker 5>was really an impressive, impressive win. As you say, you know,

495
00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:11.759
<v Speaker 5>on the road, sixteen and a half point dogs win

496
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:14.680
<v Speaker 5>by fifteen, and you know, now you look ahead. I

497
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:17.640
<v Speaker 5>mean they've they've got Michigan State coming in here in

498
00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:20.359
<v Speaker 5>two or three weeks, and that's the week before Michigan

499
00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:22.720
<v Speaker 5>State plays Ohio States, so maybe they'll catch them nap.

500
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:25.559
<v Speaker 5>And I everybody just got a lot more serious about BC.

501
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:27.559
<v Speaker 5>I think seeing them on their schedule now it's something

502
00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:30.440
<v Speaker 5>for the ACC to have a team that's that's kind

503
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:33.400
<v Speaker 5>of a sleeper in the overall picture of it.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, like you say, it was a good moment

505
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:38.960
<v Speaker 3>and good for them, Well we're.

506
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Going to need it because the Patriots are just you know,

507
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:43.279
<v Speaker 2>it's not good. I mean, it's just not good. Which

508
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:45.200
<v Speaker 2>I'll get to that in a minute. Which as far

509
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.079
<v Speaker 2>as I'm concerned, that's fine. We've had an amazing run.

510
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:52.000
<v Speaker 2>We'll let Kansas City and the other other teams have

511
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:54.079
<v Speaker 2>their fun right now, because it was a tremendous run

512
00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:58.200
<v Speaker 2>for us, as you know. But I also like the

513
00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:00.920
<v Speaker 2>way they win the game because there was a running

514
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:04.480
<v Speaker 2>game involved. It wasn't just simply Madden Football.

515
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<v Speaker 5>Right, They were doing a lot between the tackles's kind

516
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:10.799
<v Speaker 5>of going straight at them. And really in Florida State,

517
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:13.119
<v Speaker 5>and again I don't follow this like a lot of

518
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:15.960
<v Speaker 5>your audience, I suppose, but the Florida State, man, what's

519
00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:18.359
<v Speaker 5>the story they lose to Georgia Tech. They're still ranked

520
00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:21.400
<v Speaker 5>tenth in the country. There's only one team, and they're

521
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:25.640
<v Speaker 5>at home, and the quarterback just looked really bad. I

522
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:28.279
<v Speaker 5>just couldn't believe it was missing open guys and not

523
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:31.160
<v Speaker 5>just taking anything away from what BC did. And you know,

524
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:33.400
<v Speaker 5>Bill O'Brien, I mean, good on them, but I just

525
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:37.160
<v Speaker 5>was surprised at the ineptitude that team last year. You know,

526
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:38.759
<v Speaker 5>there was a lot of noise about them at the

527
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:41.519
<v Speaker 5>end with their defeated record and why aren't they in

528
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:43.920
<v Speaker 5>the mix here and this and that and and it's

529
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.359
<v Speaker 5>turned out I don't know a little bit of fraudulents

530
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:49.599
<v Speaker 5>going on there. But as you say, Gary, you know

531
00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:51.799
<v Speaker 5>we're not a college town.

532
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:55.839
<v Speaker 3>And I can tell you I remember distinctly.

533
00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:58.720
<v Speaker 5>It's funny you bring up about the Patriots being bad,

534
00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:01.519
<v Speaker 5>and so maybe BC and fill that gap a little

535
00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:04.200
<v Speaker 5>bit because because a long time ago two thousand and seven,

536
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:07.480
<v Speaker 5>BC was ranked second in the country in football for

537
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:10.039
<v Speaker 5>two weeks and that was the Matt Ryan era, right,

538
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:13.720
<v Speaker 5>and they really had it going. And I think O'Brien

539
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:16.480
<v Speaker 5>was still the coach then, and this was like in October.

540
00:30:16.519 --> 00:30:18.759
<v Speaker 5>It wasn't early, it was in the middle, Virginia Tech

541
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.400
<v Speaker 5>beat them to get them off the number two perch.

542
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:25.039
<v Speaker 5>But so in our town they're number two in the country.

543
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:26.920
<v Speaker 5>And I'm telling you, no one was aware of this.

544
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:30.079
<v Speaker 5>And here's why Red Sox won the World Series. In

545
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:32.839
<v Speaker 5>October of two thousand and seven, the Patriots were going

546
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:36.559
<v Speaker 5>eighteen and oh on their revenge tour. Kevin Garnett had

547
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:39.279
<v Speaker 5>just come on to the Celtics in the Watford Deal

548
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:41.759
<v Speaker 5>and they were beginning a championship run for the two

549
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:44.880
<v Speaker 5>thousand and seven to eight Celtics, And you had the

550
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:47.599
<v Speaker 5>number two football team in America and no one was

551
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:49.799
<v Speaker 5>aware of it, and it just sort of.

552
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:52.200
<v Speaker 3>Came and went. So that's our town.

553
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:55.599
<v Speaker 5>And I don't you know, radio shows like the one

554
00:30:55.640 --> 00:30:58.480
<v Speaker 5>you're doing and the all sports talk shows in our

555
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:02.759
<v Speaker 5>town they don't the college guest, whether it's basketball, football,

556
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:05.799
<v Speaker 5>they just don't get the audience or they don't get

557
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:08.680
<v Speaker 5>any kind of conversation going the way it would anywhere else.

558
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think the connection is there has to be

559
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:14.319
<v Speaker 2>a local tie. Now we can go back to cowboy

560
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:17.599
<v Speaker 2>Jack mcnell, who coached at the University of Maine, and

561
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:20.519
<v Speaker 2>it was just a sweet guy with the cowboy boots

562
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:23.079
<v Speaker 2>and played the guitar and loved his country music. And

563
00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:26.759
<v Speaker 2>Doug Flutie of course, right Fluty Media was a native kid,

564
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:29.160
<v Speaker 2>a local kid, you know. When you look at that

565
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:32.400
<v Speaker 2>team you talked about, were coached Tom O'Brien, and I

566
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:36.039
<v Speaker 2>remember talking to him, nice man, but he was also

567
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:40.839
<v Speaker 2>a little frustrated. He didn't really understand the ways of

568
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:46.960
<v Speaker 2>the world here. That BC is almost it's like a

569
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:53.400
<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to be insulting, but it's it's

570
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:56.559
<v Speaker 2>like a gem. It's like every once in a while,

571
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:59.319
<v Speaker 2>if you have the right personalities attached to the program,

572
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:02.200
<v Speaker 2>people will get behind it. For a while, when Al

573
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:05.279
<v Speaker 2>Skinner was coaching with the basketball team, Jimmy O'Brien with

574
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:09.039
<v Speaker 2>the basketball team, Jerry Yorke again local guy with the

575
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:12.640
<v Speaker 2>hockey team, and that team you mentioned with Tom O'Brien,

576
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:15.359
<v Speaker 2>you know the quarterback. He's great. Ryan's a great kid.

577
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:18.160
<v Speaker 2>He was from New York. O'Brien was a military guy,

578
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:21.640
<v Speaker 2>came out of Virginia. There was no connection, you know,

579
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:24.559
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I wanted to talk about this tonight

580
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:28.759
<v Speaker 2>because of Billy O'Brien. Now, you and I both covered

581
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:31.079
<v Speaker 2>him when he was with the Patriots. This guy went

582
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:34.279
<v Speaker 2>to Brown. He's got a North Andover. He had the

583
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:39.079
<v Speaker 2>he had the impossible job of working with Brady after

584
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Josh left. We all know when Billy got in a

585
00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:44.240
<v Speaker 2>fight with Tom on the sidelines. I'm rooting for Billy O'Brien.

586
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:46.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm just rooting for the guy, you know what I mean.

587
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:49.400
<v Speaker 3>No, that makes a lot of sense, and he's you know,

588
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:51.559
<v Speaker 3>this could be a perfect fit.

589
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:53.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean you always wonder if the guys has found

590
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:56.799
<v Speaker 5>a home and given his age, as you point out,

591
00:32:56.839 --> 00:32:59.640
<v Speaker 5>his local roots, and he's done a lot in the NFL.

592
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.359
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know when the Houston Texans had it going,

593
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:04.160
<v Speaker 5>you know he was. He was all there for that,

594
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:08.119
<v Speaker 5>and then the offensive coordinator for the Patriots and the

595
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 5>last Penn.

596
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:11.440
<v Speaker 2>State he turned Penn State around. I mean, Danny, I

597
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:13.599
<v Speaker 2>mean Penn State was coming out of it. I remember

598
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:15.119
<v Speaker 2>when he took the Penn State gig. I don't know

599
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:19.079
<v Speaker 2>if you remember this, but Belichick I was talking to

600
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:21.559
<v Speaker 2>somebody I can't hell him and a Benzoe or something,

601
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:23.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, who knows, but like Belichick told him, you

602
00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:26.759
<v Speaker 2>take that Penn State job because it was after the

603
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:30.960
<v Speaker 2>whole you know, uh, pedophilia scandal, I mean just terrible,

604
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:34.920
<v Speaker 2>and people didn't want the job, you know, and paternal

605
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:36.680
<v Speaker 2>I think it passed away. I mean it was just

606
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:39.519
<v Speaker 2>the thing was in the dumps and people told him

607
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:41.039
<v Speaker 2>to take it and he did and it was actually

608
00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:41.960
<v Speaker 2>the right move for him.

609
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:44.319
<v Speaker 3>Yep, you know it was.

610
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<v Speaker 5>I mean, they had they had way more success quickly

611
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:50.920
<v Speaker 5>than anybody thought they would or could given what he

612
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:54.039
<v Speaker 5>walked into. And that's absolutely true. And you know, another

613
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:57.200
<v Speaker 5>another great part of his resume. And that's why I

614
00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:01.680
<v Speaker 5>wonder if you know, there's only one game in, but

615
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:03.799
<v Speaker 5>this this would have been a good day to renegotiate

616
00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:05.519
<v Speaker 5>because I mean, he looks like a guy that you

617
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:07.960
<v Speaker 5>want to keep and and build around because it's been

618
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:10.239
<v Speaker 5>it's been tough sledding over there for quite some time,

619
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<v Speaker 5>as you know, and uh, and this would be a

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<v Speaker 5>you know, this could be a game changer for the

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<v Speaker 5>for the school's football program, which is just you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's just been a while and and you know, going

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<v Speaker 5>back to it was not him, but last year there

624
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:25.360
<v Speaker 5>was that everybody kind of laughed.

625
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:28.280
<v Speaker 3>At the Wasabi Bowl and that was sort of a tell.

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00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:30.800
<v Speaker 5>It was at Fenway Park in December on a Wednesday

627
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:33.679
<v Speaker 5>morning and was raining and it was a horrible day

628
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<v Speaker 5>and there was no one in the lower bowl of

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<v Speaker 5>Fenway of the stands, and and they they they took

630
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<v Speaker 5>it to SMU, which was you know, they had been

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00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:45.039
<v Speaker 5>a ranked team and and came here and just lost

632
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:47.320
<v Speaker 5>their way. BC took it to him. So it was

633
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:51.000
<v Speaker 5>something to work with, uh with with the changeover of coaches.

634
00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:52.639
<v Speaker 5>And now he's come in and he's like, hey, why

635
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<v Speaker 5>can't we be good at football?

636
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<v Speaker 3>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think he's the key. I agree with you.

638
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:59.280
<v Speaker 2>I think look, we all remember flute Mania and I'll

639
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.079
<v Speaker 2>ask you to remind on that and just a little bit.

640
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:06.239
<v Speaker 2>But he again a local guy. Coach Tom Brady, coach

641
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:08.800
<v Speaker 2>of the Patriots, did a very good job with Houston,

642
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:12.920
<v Speaker 2>as you mentioned, turnpen State around. But he's one of us,

643
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:15.480
<v Speaker 2>and I think that that's why it's going to work.

644
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:19.159
<v Speaker 2>And you're right, this is probably he's a little bit older. Now,

645
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:21.400
<v Speaker 2>why would he want to go anywhere else? And if

646
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:24.440
<v Speaker 2>BC is smart, you keep him here for like five years.

647
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Just do it. Because Dan, I don't know about you,

648
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:31.039
<v Speaker 2>but I can't keep up with college football the conferences.

649
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:35.639
<v Speaker 2>I died a big twenty four and you know the

650
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:38.599
<v Speaker 2>Pac eighteen and that's gone now and everything is all

651
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:42.960
<v Speaker 2>over the road. So you know, it's it's very hard

652
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:47.960
<v Speaker 2>unless you're Alabama or Georgia, it's very hard to be relevant.

653
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:51.719
<v Speaker 2>And you know, this is the guy that could, This

654
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:53.199
<v Speaker 2>is the guy that could make them relevant.

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00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:57.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's you know, it's such a tall order in

656
00:35:58.039 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 5>this region. But he can make he can make them.

657
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:02.320
<v Speaker 5>I just don't know when you're a college coach in

658
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:05.800
<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty four, how you hold onto your talent, you know,

659
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:09.960
<v Speaker 5>with the nil money and guys you know, with barcodes

660
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:12.000
<v Speaker 5>in the back of their helmets, and you know.

661
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Everybody's available to transfer.

662
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:15.639
<v Speaker 5>If they don't like the way things are, they're in

663
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:17.920
<v Speaker 5>the portal and they're gone. And I don't know how

664
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<v Speaker 5>fans you know, and even in thee die in the

665
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:25.320
<v Speaker 5>wool college regions. How do you stay behind this when well,

666
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:27.719
<v Speaker 5>hell and basketball, you got a whole new team coming

667
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.079
<v Speaker 5>in every year, four or five new starters every year

668
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:33.400
<v Speaker 5>because of what went down in football. It's just everything's

669
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:35.639
<v Speaker 5>for sale and I have a hard time getting behind it.

670
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:38.000
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's great for the betters, it's great TV programming.

671
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:41.480
<v Speaker 5>It's great for fantasy And you know, America was got

672
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:44.000
<v Speaker 5>a wake up call last weekend when college football getting going.

673
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:45.400
<v Speaker 5>Here we go and everybody's into it.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a hard time getting into it.

675
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:50.960
<v Speaker 5>And to me, I don't know why anyone would want

676
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:53.320
<v Speaker 5>to coach it because just of holding on to your

677
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:57.320
<v Speaker 5>people and the recruiting and the travel and just keeping

678
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:00.280
<v Speaker 5>people on board. I mean, it's as you say, the

679
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:03.679
<v Speaker 5>landscape of college football is just impossible to track anymore.

680
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:06.199
<v Speaker 3>UCLA is flying like around the world this year.

681
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:07.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's crazy to.

682
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:09.800
<v Speaker 3>Do their schedule. It's crazy, and it's just like, it's

683
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:10.400
<v Speaker 3>what is that?

684
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:14.719
<v Speaker 5>And I might mention Miami of Florida their tight end.

685
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:16.719
<v Speaker 5>He caught a touchdown pass over the weekend.

686
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:18.400
<v Speaker 3>It's his ninth year.

687
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:21.480
<v Speaker 5>At college football, played Blueto, seven years of college down

688
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:23.679
<v Speaker 5>the dream and he finally caught a touchdown.

689
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:29.239
<v Speaker 2>It's no, it's crazy. Basketball I think has really been

690
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:33.400
<v Speaker 2>hurt because the Yukon teams with Danny Hurley, they were

691
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:37.079
<v Speaker 2>fun to watch, but I mean, come on, I mean,

692
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're nothing compared to what we've seen in

693
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:43.400
<v Speaker 2>the past with great college championship teams and it's because

694
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:44.239
<v Speaker 2>of the player movement.

695
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you don't. You don't have a kid, You get

696
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:48.760
<v Speaker 3>a kid for a year, he goes somewhere else for years.

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00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the coaches, you know, now, you know, that's

698
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:54.679
<v Speaker 2>maybe where Billy O'Brien can It's kind of like the

699
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Big with the way the Big East used to be

700
00:37:56.559 --> 00:37:59.320
<v Speaker 2>for basketball, where it was all about the coaches. You know,

701
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:01.920
<v Speaker 2>maybe if you stick with your coach and you go

702
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:04.719
<v Speaker 2>play for a coach, whether it's Kirby down in Georgia,

703
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:07.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, or over to Alabama, or maybe somebody wants

704
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:09.719
<v Speaker 2>to play for O'Brien here. You know, maybe that's the

705
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:12.400
<v Speaker 2>way it goes. I don't know. I'm not sure.

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00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm with you on that.

707
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:17.559
<v Speaker 5>It's it's like Charlie Baker's running the NC Double A

708
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:19.400
<v Speaker 5>and he's not gonna lose a lot of sleepover because

709
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:24.079
<v Speaker 5>it is unfixable. But it's changes every week every.

710
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:26.639
<v Speaker 3>It's just I can't keep up with it. But this

711
00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:29.039
<v Speaker 3>was a good start. CBC do what they did, and

712
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:30.079
<v Speaker 3>everybody around.

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00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:32.400
<v Speaker 5>Here is a little bit more into it as they

714
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:33.719
<v Speaker 5>go into their second third week.

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<v Speaker 2>Danny, it's always great to talk to you, my friend,

716
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:39.199
<v Speaker 2>have a good night. Thanks for coming on anytime, all right,

717
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Buddy Dance Chaughnessy columnists of the Boston Globe. One of

718
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:44.880
<v Speaker 2>the great ones who has seen it all. He has

719
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:50.760
<v Speaker 2>seen it all. I great Dan Shaughnessy's story. Two thousand

720
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:53.679
<v Speaker 2>and four Red Sox they sweep the Saint Louis Cardinals.

721
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm outside the team hotel. Players are getting on the

722
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:01.320
<v Speaker 2>bus and Danny goes for a run. Danny comes back

723
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:03.639
<v Speaker 2>from a jog, and we all know Dan was like,

724
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:08.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, the curse of the Bambino, I mean, just

725
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:11.039
<v Speaker 2>the keeper of the gate. But Danna Stowe has been

726
00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:13.599
<v Speaker 2>like the keeper of Boston sports. He really has been,

727
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:16.800
<v Speaker 2>and he has not lost his fastball by any stretch

728
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:19.519
<v Speaker 2>of the imagination. He's still a phenomenal read. And I

729
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 2>mean there he just says, now it's not the same anymore.

730
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:25.199
<v Speaker 2>They won, it's just not as much fun. And in

731
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:27.480
<v Speaker 2>a way he was right, you know, I mean, the

732
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:30.000
<v Speaker 2>curse was over, the charm was gone. They were winners.

733
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:34.079
<v Speaker 2>And seven they went on and they won again, swept

734
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:39.199
<v Speaker 2>the Rockies, and they just weren't the lovable losers anymore.

735
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:42.440
<v Speaker 2>And it look for guys like me and Dad, you know,

736
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:45.239
<v Speaker 2>we've had our day. We're all older. The game used

737
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:48.119
<v Speaker 2>to be enough. He's right, the game used to be enough.

738
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:50.760
<v Speaker 2>But for kids now, they need two screens. They need

739
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.760
<v Speaker 2>to watch about it. They need to watch the fantasy

740
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:56.559
<v Speaker 2>and the gambling though thing worries the hell out of me.

741
00:39:56.599 --> 00:39:59.079
<v Speaker 2>I gotta be honest with you, the fact that gambling

742
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:02.320
<v Speaker 2>is legal and there's a lot of kids in college

743
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:05.599
<v Speaker 2>and I've talked to some parents where, you know, kids

744
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:10.159
<v Speaker 2>start betting on games, and that worries me. That's it's

745
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:13.599
<v Speaker 2>very easy. It's very easy to bet on football games

746
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:15.880
<v Speaker 2>if you're a college kid, or even if you're out

747
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:17.880
<v Speaker 2>of high school and you're over eighteen and you're working

748
00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:20.960
<v Speaker 2>and a hundred bucks a year, a hundred bucks there,

749
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:23.039
<v Speaker 2>and then you win. And just remember, man, the house

750
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:27.719
<v Speaker 2>always wins. The house always wins. One of my favorite actors,

751
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Chris Bauer, you know who he is, joins us next

752
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:32.360
<v Speaker 2>here on wbz's Night Side.