Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: I cannot wait. I cannot wait for September tenth. Cannot wait.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is gonna be mussy TV. And
Speaker 2: I swear to god, you don't even have to be
Speaker 2: into politics, you really don't. You do not have to
Speaker 2: be in the politics to want to see this. This
Speaker 2: is going to be incredible. This is going to be
Speaker 2: a phenomenal debate. Unbelievable. I'm gonna I have some comments
Speaker 2: on this coming up. I am like a caddickt Christmas.
Speaker 2: I have no idea and if I look both candidates,
Speaker 2: by the way, I'm Gary Tagway. If it didn't Y
Speaker 2: Nicole mentioned that, thank you very much. I appreciate that
Speaker 2: Dan is off this week. This is Nightside here until
Speaker 2: twelve midnight. I'll run down the show for you in
Speaker 2: just a minute here. But when the announcement came down
Speaker 2: that September tenth is gonna be the debate, it's going
Speaker 2: to be in Philadelphia. You can listen to it here
Speaker 2: in WBZ Boston's news radio. You can also catch it
Speaker 2: on the iHeart mobile app, which you should have you
Speaker 2: on your phone. I mean, if you don't. I don't
Speaker 2: really understand why not. But the iHeart mobile ops tremendous.
Speaker 2: I just can't wait to see these two go at
Speaker 2: it a Vice President Harrison former President Donald Trump, and
Speaker 2: I know they It's so funny to me. It's so
Speaker 2: comical that Trump's party, or at Trump's people, they want
Speaker 2: the rules, right, I mean, they want the rules they
Speaker 2: want Okay, this is this is the deal. Trump announced
Speaker 2: on truth Social that he has accepted the September tenth
Speaker 2: debate on ABC under the same conditions of the June
Speaker 2: CNN debate. So here are the rules. Microphone will only
Speaker 2: be turned on when it is there turned to speak.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I thought this is probably Trump's people
Speaker 2: talking to try to protect him from himself, because if
Speaker 2: he leaves the microphone on, he's gonna blow it. He's
Speaker 2: just he won't be able to control himself. Also, no
Speaker 2: studio audience, which I think sucks. You have to have
Speaker 2: a studio audience for a debate. Come on, you gotta.
Speaker 2: I think they should do it like the price is right,
Speaker 2: and I think they should have an announcer. Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: come on down, Kamala Harris, come on down. You have
Speaker 2: to have a studio audience. You have to have some juice.
Speaker 2: Maybe he could have some celebrities, you know in the audience,
Speaker 2: various people. Jennifer Lopez. Hey, Jennifer Lopez is here today.
Speaker 2: She's in the audience. Uh, what else here?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: The candidates are not allowed to talk to their staff
Speaker 2: during breaks, that's fine, or bring any with them, that's fine.
Speaker 2: They can only have a pen and a pad and
Speaker 2: a bottle of water. Is that just one bottle of water?
Speaker 2: Is that just one o? You only allowed one bottle
Speaker 2: of robber water? H The consumer of entertainment wants the
Speaker 2: mics turned on. If you want to see a bleep show,
Speaker 2: if you want to see just a twenty five car
Speaker 2: pile up on a stage, you want the mics on.
Speaker 2: You do you want these two to go at it?
Speaker 2: If you want to be reasonable, if you want to
Speaker 2: be a person of education, if you want to be
Speaker 2: a little high brow, you want the microphones off. I
Speaker 2: love it. You know in the past when Harris Well,
Speaker 2: she did it in the past vice president vice presidential debates, right,
Speaker 2: which is a sir, mister vice president, I'm speaking, mister
Speaker 2: vice president. I'm speaking. Here's the thing with Harris and
Speaker 2: she was okay with CNN and Dana Bass, she was okay.
Speaker 2: The problem is Harris sometimes isn't forceful enough when she
Speaker 2: says something. I mean, I said this last night. Rob
Speaker 2: Brooks is with us back. Rob, good to see you
Speaker 2: again on the other side of the window. I'm sure
Speaker 2: you are listening on your night off. If you were,
Speaker 2: you have a problem. But Donald Trump will say garbage
Speaker 2: tastes great with peanut butter when the sky is pink,
Speaker 2: and people will go absolutely because he says it with
Speaker 2: such enthusiasm and such conviction. I do believe that Vice
Speaker 2: President Harris is trying to be correct, but sometimes she
Speaker 2: waffles in what she's saying. She stumbles a little bit,
Speaker 2: she thinks about it. Let's face it, when it comes
Speaker 2: to the presidential election, why worry about being right? Why
Speaker 2: worry about being accurate? It doesn't matter because the guy
Speaker 2: that's never been accurate got elected and he continues to
Speaker 2: be in the race, and he still may win. So
Speaker 2: when you look at the score sheets and it won't
Speaker 2: even bother anymore. You know, the fact checks when Trump speaks,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a mile long. Nobody cares if you're
Speaker 2: gonna vote for Trump. You're going to vote for Trump,
Speaker 2: whether he has thirty misfacts if you will, or lives
Speaker 2: or whatever you want to call it, on a list nobody.
Speaker 2: It's not going to change anybody's mind, Like all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, somebody's not going to look at them and say, oh,
Speaker 2: you got that wrong. I'm gonna vote for him. It's
Speaker 2: not gonna happen. And when they've done a fact check
Speaker 2: with Vice President Harris and I will admit that I
Speaker 2: haven't looked at every one of them. But this is
Speaker 2: a couple of things, you know, like you know, there's
Speaker 2: a gray area. I think there was a fact check
Speaker 2: after the C and N interview, and there was a
Speaker 2: couple of things that maybe she wasn't exact on, but
Speaker 2: she was in the neighborhood, not like not like Trump.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just he just doesn't care. And you
Speaker 2: know something, why should Donald Trump care? The facts don't
Speaker 2: matter and he still could be president again, so he's
Speaker 2: gonna keep doing what he's doing. If the microphones stay on,
Speaker 2: I think she will destroy Trump. And that's what he's
Speaker 2: worried about. If the microphones stay on, she destroys Trump.
Speaker 2: You know why, because that's when she's at her best.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you right now. And this is what I
Speaker 2: thought the problem with Secretary of State Clinton was. And
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton is a brilliant woman. We all know that,
Speaker 2: and there was there was just a misconnection. She didn't
Speaker 2: connect with women in some areas. I think Kamala Harris
Speaker 2: connects with women. I think Kamala Harris connects with her
Speaker 2: bas big time. I think she's increased the base quite frankly,
Speaker 2: with the brats and the young Democrats and people who
Speaker 2: are now going to vote that weren't even thinking about
Speaker 2: voting for the two old geezers before. And I think
Speaker 2: that's going to be the difference. I mean, if you said,
Speaker 2: right now, Tangue, what's going to happen, I'll say, I
Speaker 2: think Harris is gonna win. And I think it's going
Speaker 2: to be because of the young people who turn out.
Speaker 2: That's what I think is gonna I think it's gonna
Speaker 2: be close as hell. Do I know she's gonna be
Speaker 2: a good president. I have no idea. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, Trump had the job, he's more qualified
Speaker 2: than her, right if he had the job, already, nobody
Speaker 2: trusts him. I mean, he's out of his mind. I
Speaker 2: don't know if she can do it. She was picked
Speaker 2: as a vice president, you know, with Joe Biden, probably
Speaker 2: because they wanted to appeal to certain sections that Joe
Speaker 2: Biden wouldn't appeal to. And now she's going to be president.
Speaker 2: I don't think this was anybody's plan, but that's what
Speaker 2: happens a lot. I mean, look, Harry Truman, we talked
Speaker 2: about it last night. Vice presidents or people who became
Speaker 2: great presidents and surprise people, and Harris could be one
Speaker 2: of them because this is what she does well, and
Speaker 2: this is why she was I think successful as a
Speaker 2: prosecutor is if she gets pissed off, she will go
Speaker 2: for the jugular with him. We've seen it before when
Speaker 2: she tries to be smart and intelligent and keep the
Speaker 2: gloves on I shouldn't say intelligent. When she keeps the
Speaker 2: gloves on. When she tries to play nice and is
Speaker 2: very cautious with her words, that's when she gets in trouble.
Speaker 2: When she gets passionate about something, that's when she's awesome.
Speaker 2: So my advice to Kamala Harris would be, don't think,
Speaker 2: just go after him. Don't think, just do. I think
Speaker 2: it is going to be fantastic television. It is going
Speaker 2: to be fantastic television. And I hope there's more than one.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they could squeeze them all in.
Speaker 2: I mean, Kenny, what we got, what the hell are Yeah?
Speaker 2: Maybe you could do another one in thirty days. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be glued to the TV man. I mean, this
Speaker 2: is gonna be to meet from me watching Kamala Harris
Speaker 2: and Donald Trump go out and the presidential election will
Speaker 2: be like watching. It's gonna be Sunday at one or
Speaker 2: Monday night football or the NBA Finals. I cannot wait
Speaker 2: for this. I think it's gonna be awesome. And if
Speaker 2: they leave the mics on, she will shred him, shred him,
Speaker 2: That's what I think. That's why he wants the mics off.
Speaker 2: So if you want the show, keep the mics on.
Speaker 2: If you want an intellectual conversation, boring, keep them off.
Speaker 2: All right, Coming up here on wc's Night, said Gary
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Speaker 2: And I love to give attention to actors who deserve it,
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Speaker 2: And Bauer is right there, and my friend the freak
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Speaker 2: at ten o'clock. He's got a lot to say about
Speaker 2: both sides of the aisle with this. Coming up next,
Speaker 2: Samantha Gross is going to join us from the Boss Globe.
Speaker 2: Why the hell should we did something happen today? Politically
Speaker 2: in mass was there an elect did something happen? She's
Speaker 2: going to tell us next on wbz's Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Gary tagway for tonight. There was something going on politically today.
Speaker 2: Samantha Gross is going to join us here from the
Speaker 2: Boston Globe.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And the primaries in which well, as one would expect
Speaker 2: that the Democrats many people running out of post. Nonetheless,
Speaker 2: Samantha got the assignment from the Globe. Samantha fill us in,
Speaker 2: how was it today? How was it? Was this the
Speaker 2: easiest gig ever?
Speaker 4: It definitely was quieter than than other elections I've covered.
Speaker 4: But yeah, there there was a primary election you know
Speaker 4: today across the state in Massachusetts, believe it or not,
Speaker 4: and there were some interesting races to follow. But it definitely,
Speaker 4: you know, was a quieter, quiet cycle for primaries than
Speaker 4: in the past.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that and we'll get it to this how
Speaker 2: I want your opinion, or at least shed some light
Speaker 2: on those other races that are imported. But obviously Elizabeth Warren,
Speaker 2: I mean that she's the big name, she's running an
Speaker 2: opposed and there are three Republicans competing today and the
Speaker 2: results and yet I'm not even sure I was just
Speaker 2: checking they're not.
Speaker 4: Some precincts are reporting, but it's a really low percentage,
Speaker 4: so it's really hard to say, but yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: there are three Republicans that were running, you know, to
Speaker 4: hopefully compete against Senator Elizabeth Warren in November. Bob antonellis
Speaker 4: who's an engineer, Ian Kayan has a Quincy City Council president,
Speaker 4: and John Deeton is an attorney.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, now Deeton, this was interesting. I read in your
Speaker 2: column or your article that Deeton moved from Rhode Island
Speaker 2: to Massachusetts to run for office. I mean that's what
Speaker 2: I assume he did, and he was considered the front runner,
Speaker 2: and I think that's unique. I mean, he's a carpentbagger
Speaker 2: kind of right.
Speaker 4: It's interesting. Yeah, he doesn't have a long history in Massachusetts,
Speaker 4: but he does have the best funded campaign. He loaned
Speaker 4: himself a million dollars, so you know, money goes far.
Speaker 4: You can put out a lot more advertisements, you know,
Speaker 4: send bigger mailers and have a bigger presence. So it'll
Speaker 4: be interesting to see, you know, how much money plays
Speaker 4: a role in that campaign.
Speaker 2: Did they have a shot at putting a dent in Warren?
Speaker 2: I mean putting a dent? She said, damn popular, and
Speaker 2: she's a force.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's difficult. She's She's really popular in
Speaker 4: Massachusetts and the state, you know, writ large is just
Speaker 4: very deep blue, and so you know it'll be interesting.
Speaker 4: I think that it's raised, you know, some awareness about
Speaker 4: kind of cryptocurrency, which has been a really big talking
Speaker 4: point for a lot of the folks in this race,
Speaker 4: specifically Ian Kane and John Deaton. But you know, we'll
Speaker 4: see because what.
Speaker 2: With crypto, Because what's the deal with crypto? Because I
Speaker 2: know friends of mine that have had it. I stay
Speaker 2: away from it. I mean, I do well to handle
Speaker 2: dollar and sense what's the issue there? What are they
Speaker 2: what are they looking to push it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, Elizabeth Warren has been one of
Speaker 4: the biggest kind of vocal you know, uh just critical
Speaker 4: critic uh critics of blockchain and cryptocurrency. That's been a
Speaker 4: long day. And you know Ian Kane he co founded
Speaker 4: a blockchain technology company. You know, John Deaton has has
Speaker 4: put money towards crypto, and so I think it's kind
Speaker 4: of just been you know, a piece of Warren's reputation
Speaker 4: that they've been able to kind of latch onto because
Speaker 4: it is really popular and you know, there's a lot
Speaker 4: of money in those communities to to boost those campaigns.
Speaker 4: Do you have, Crypto, I personally do not afgre why
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: You know why? You know why Smith, Because we don't
Speaker 2: have enough money. That's why. I mean people that I have.
Speaker 2: I have a friend of mine that is loaded. I
Speaker 2: mean now I'm talking loaded, Yes, Crypto. You know why,
Speaker 2: because if it goes south, he's still okay. You know,
Speaker 2: That's the way I look at it. I mean, if
Speaker 2: you get involved in that stuff, you better have enough
Speaker 2: in the in the war chest, you know when I
Speaker 2: head south to be able to handle it. I was
Speaker 2: also reading reading today that the Governor's Council is what
Speaker 2: fourteen people running for the chindig and what did they do?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, the Governor's Council is one of the buzzier races.
Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of folks running for a
Speaker 4: couple of seats on the Governor's Council. They do kind
Speaker 4: of you know, it's obscure, but they do important things.
Speaker 4: You know, they confirm judges. They you know, they review
Speaker 4: pardon recommendations from the governor. You know, things that have
Speaker 4: a lot of sway in the state. But yeah, a
Speaker 4: lot of people don't know what they do. A lot
Speaker 4: of people don't even know who their governor's counselor is.
Speaker 4: But yes, it's become a buzzy racist cycle for sure.
Speaker 2: Well you got some juice with it, I mean because
Speaker 2: when I read it when they said that the pardons,
Speaker 2: and I think you can probably elaborate on this more
Speaker 2: than me. They're a number of different pardons, correct, I
Speaker 2: mean we're not necessarily talking about somebody that's good pardons
Speaker 2: for being wrongly corrected, for a capital motor or something
Speaker 2: like that, convicted, I should say. But you know, if
Speaker 2: you have the ability to pardon someone at a number
Speaker 2: of levels, that's a very powerful position.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're also in politically charged you know, these
Speaker 4: this is these are recommended, you know, by the governor
Speaker 4: and so you know, depending on the administration, it can
Speaker 4: look really different, and so they operate pretty you know,
Speaker 4: in relative obscurities, I think the way how we framed
Speaker 4: it in our story. But they do have a lot
Speaker 4: of power, yeah, when it comes to pardons, and yeah,
Speaker 4: judicial nominees who obviously you know, play a really important
Speaker 4: role in our communities across Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, especially when you talk about the judicial nominees,
Speaker 2: because I've known a lot of lawyers and attorneys, and
Speaker 2: they love the judge. Ship man, you're on the back nine,
Speaker 2: get them out a bench and they can just cruise.
Speaker 2: You know. I had a friend of mine. It was
Speaker 2: actually a judge. I don't know if I should be
Speaker 2: surn or not. He was brilliant, a brilliant man. And
Speaker 2: I said to him, how how do you do it? Sometimes?
Speaker 2: How do you like listen to all of this all
Speaker 2: day long? Said? Sometimes I balance my check book while
Speaker 2: I'm listening. Sometimes I lift my feet off the floor
Speaker 2: so I don't fall asleep. And I said, wow, man,
Speaker 2: that's crazy. But the guy was brilliant, so I mean
Speaker 2: he could. He could. He was certainly well prepared. They're like,
Speaker 2: balance his check book and listen to a court case.
Speaker 2: Anything else interesting today, any other nugget or something you
Speaker 2: could share with us?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like I said, there's not a lot
Speaker 4: of competitive races for the state House. You know, I'm
Speaker 4: Beacon Hill in the legislature, but there are a few
Speaker 4: incumbent facing challengers, and that doesn't happen super often.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I'm actually sitting right now in the parking lot of
Speaker 4: Marjorie Decker, who's a Cambridge Democrat running for state Rep.
Speaker 4: I'm at her her party and her her campaign has
Speaker 4: been really interesting because she's a long time in combent.
Speaker 4: She's been in you know, the legislature for decades, and
Speaker 4: she is facing a challenger for the first time in
Speaker 4: in several years from a really young graduate student. I'm
Speaker 4: his union organizer, Evan McKay, and they've focused their campaign
Speaker 4: really around, you know, legislative efficiency and let the lack
Speaker 4: of transparency and Beacon Hell, which has become you know,
Speaker 4: has gotten a lot of attention, you know, in this
Speaker 4: past legislative session. So that's one that I'm watching personally
Speaker 4: because I've been covering that race. But there are a
Speaker 4: bunch of state reps, or a bunch there's in the
Speaker 4: team state reps and senators that are that are being challenged,
Speaker 4: and I'll be watching those races just because you know,
Speaker 4: there's one hundred and sixty a reps and forty senators
Speaker 4: and very few of them get challenged, so that's kind
Speaker 4: of a dynamic.
Speaker 2: I'm keeping a close eye on Samantha Gross's whether us
Speaker 2: at the Boston Globe. She's covering the primaries today. The
Speaker 2: thing I find fascinating about Massachusetts is that while it
Speaker 2: is a blue state, we've had Republican governors. You know,
Speaker 2: we're Mitt Romney, who was a really nice guy and
Speaker 2: him compared to Trump, the dude a liberal, you know,
Speaker 2: Paul Salucci. Uh, you know, we've had William Weld. I
Speaker 2: think it was a Republican at the time before. Why
Speaker 2: is that? Do you have any idea why that happens?
Speaker 4: I mean, that kind of brand of moderate conservatism was
Speaker 4: really you know, that was like a marquee for Massachusetts
Speaker 4: for a long time. Obviously, the party has changed a
Speaker 4: lot under you know, it's various leadership. I know you
Speaker 4: guys have probably covered this of you know, some of
Speaker 4: the tumults within the Massachusetts GOP, and so they don't
Speaker 4: have that big tent reputation anymore. I think they're trying
Speaker 4: to rebuild that. But yeah, they you know, have alienated
Speaker 4: a lot of those moderate conservatives after calling I think
Speaker 4: they called you know, Charlie Baker rhino at the time
Speaker 4: when he when he didn't vote for Trump anyway, So
Speaker 4: I think like the brand has deteriorated a little bit.
Speaker 4: But yeah, we do have a history of having conservative
Speaker 4: governors or I guess you know, moderate.
Speaker 2: Governors, conservative governors that are reasonable, you know, I mean
Speaker 2: just reasonable. I mean, look, what reason's gone out the window?
Speaker 2: I mean we all know that it's it's it's Banana's,
Speaker 2: but Charlie Baker's another one. Just you know, a reasonable
Speaker 2: situation or somebody you could have a conversation with, somebody
Speaker 2: that you may disagree with, but you're not gonna call
Speaker 2: each other names, and you can have a conversation with
Speaker 2: But you're right, I mean, that's that's not the same.
Speaker 2: Even Scott Brown. I remember when Scott Brown won, you
Speaker 2: know that pulled off that upset and Scott was a
Speaker 2: moderate as well, and he had a pickup truck and
Speaker 2: people like that. So, hey, do you have any my
Speaker 2: opening comment I talked about the the debate coming up
Speaker 2: on the tenth, and I assume you're a It sounds
Speaker 2: to me like you're a political junkie. That's why you're
Speaker 2: doing what you're doing. I cannot wait for Harris Trump
Speaker 2: ding ding, sound the bell, let's go take the gloves off.
Speaker 2: What do you think about this?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm definitely interested to see. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 4: a first so I think you know, all eyes will
Speaker 4: be on the two of them. Both campaigns have been
Speaker 4: really active. You know, in recent weeks, Vice President has
Speaker 4: is launching her Reproductive Freedom bus tour that's going, you know,
Speaker 4: around the country right now. I know that it kicked off,
Speaker 4: I think today in Palm Beach, near near Donald Trump's home.
Speaker 4: And you know, meanwhile, you know, Trump lawyers are are
Speaker 4: in court trying to help proceedings in his criminal case.
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's just it'll I don't know, it'll be
Speaker 4: really interesting. I'm really curious to hear what they have
Speaker 4: to stand one of the big issues. And yeah, it's
Speaker 4: you know, there's been so much change in that race
Speaker 4: lately that yeah, it'll be interesting to see it kind
Speaker 4: of form on stage on the tent.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I mean on CNN tonight they were
Speaker 2: talking about different stratu geez and one of the strategies was,
Speaker 2: you know, and we've heard this, the prosecutor against the convict,
Speaker 2: you know, but the strategy was she needs to act
Speaker 2: like a prosecutor, like she's going after him, the criminal.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my god, what is this. This
Speaker 2: is the presidency of the United States. We've lost our minds.
Speaker 2: We've lost our freaking minds. Thank you very much Samantha
Speaker 2: for joining us. Great job, Thanks for filling us into
Speaker 2: what was going on today with the primary Samantha Gross
Speaker 2: of the Boston Globe, Best of luck, talk to you
Speaker 2: again soon. Thanks for having me, all right, Samantha, good job.
Speaker 2: So there you have it. There you have it, folks.
Speaker 2: Shaughnessy's coming up in eight forty five. Boston College, Boston College,
Speaker 2: go get them. Billy O'Brien, the BC egos pulling up
Speaker 2: a huge upset over SSU Florida State University. Does this
Speaker 2: mean college football is going to be back at the
Speaker 2: heights because we're not a college town. We all know that.
Speaker 2: But there have been periods in BC's history, whether it
Speaker 2: be Doug Flutie or Matt Ryan, where we wanted to
Speaker 2: follow BC and flute was the big thing because he
Speaker 2: was a local guy from Natick.
Speaker 3: You know, we know that.
Speaker 2: And Billy O'Brien's a local guy, went to Brown North
Speaker 2: andover love that guy. Good for him. That's all coming
Speaker 2: up at eight forty five, and coming up next, I
Speaker 2: have some thoughts on why we should all be wearing
Speaker 2: long pants on WBC's Nightside.
Speaker 1: You're on the Night Side with Dan Ray on wb Z,
Speaker 1: Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Dan Shaughnessy joins us, coming up in about ten minutes
Speaker 2: talking about BC let's hear it for the Eagles man
Speaker 2: the Heights and they went on the road. They won
Speaker 2: on the road against Florida State. The Eagles are back. Baby,
Speaker 2: Dad's gonna talk about that. Coming up at eight five.
Speaker 2: I'm as I get older, I have become such an alarmist.
Speaker 2: And I think that's just the way it is. When
Speaker 2: you're eighteen, you're nineteen, you're invincible, you're twenty. Nothing's gonna
Speaker 2: hurt me. Not a little mosquito. Oh no, not a
Speaker 2: little insect. That's not gonna bother me. If they try
Speaker 2: to take some blood out of me, I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: smack it. But with this West now virus situation, it
Speaker 2: scares the hell out of me, It really does. It
Speaker 2: scares the hell out of me. WYV risk levels in
Speaker 2: the following area of communities raised too high. Sagas in
Speaker 2: Essex County, Arlington, Belmont, Malden, Medford, Melrose, Middlesex, Middlesex County,
Speaker 2: I should say Chelsea, Revere, Revere, Winthrop in Suffolk County.
Speaker 2: I get a first hand frost nothing like a good
Speaker 2: frost unless you leave the plants out, and you still
Speaker 2: get stuff in the garden. While the temperatures may be
Speaker 2: a bit cooler, September is still within the peak time
Speaker 2: for West NOOW virus activity in Massachusetts, said Public Health
Speaker 2: Commissioner Robbie Goldstein, who was an MD and a PhD.
Speaker 2: So this is serious stuff. It really is. And my
Speaker 2: family looks at me a little weird because I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm wearing shorts now, but I'm in a studio and
Speaker 2: I walked ten feet in my car. But even if
Speaker 2: it was hot out, I'd taken the dogs for a walk.
Speaker 2: I do the long sleeves, I do the pants, I
Speaker 2: do the socks. Even the other night, I said, let's
Speaker 2: stay in. Let's not go, let's not sit on the
Speaker 2: back porch. Let's just stay in and take it easy here,
Speaker 2: because as we have seen, this has resulted in some
Speaker 2: tragedy strat excuse me, tragedy as I attempted to be dramatic,
Speaker 2: and tragic deaths. I mean, we know that I feel terrible.
Speaker 2: I mean, how bad is that You're going about your
Speaker 2: business and you get a mosquito bite. You don't think
Speaker 2: anything's wrong. I mean, that's just terrible. It's haunting, feel
Speaker 2: awful for that family. Terrible, terrible, terrible. One man in
Speaker 2: his fifties exposed in Suffolk County, the other man in
Speaker 2: his eighties exposed in southern Middlesex County, and we know
Speaker 2: there was a fatality in New Hampshire. So folks, put
Speaker 2: on the long sleeves at night, use the bug spray,
Speaker 2: get out the deet, get on the socks, put on
Speaker 2: the long pants. Even if it's a little warm. We
Speaker 2: still have some warm days ahead. You know me, If
Speaker 2: you need to do the shorts of the T shirt,
Speaker 2: you can maybe do it in the morning when there's
Speaker 2: a light breeze, but still put on the repellence. I
Speaker 2: know I sound like your father here, but do it. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: do it. All right, Rob, We're gonna break a little
Speaker 2: older because I got Dan Shaughnessy coming in and we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about the re energized BC Eagles at
Speaker 2: the Heights with a former Patriot coach that is making
Speaker 2: it happen. It's all coming up on WBC's Nightside. Gary
Speaker 2: Tangway for Denray.
Speaker 1: Now back to Danray Live from the Window World Light
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Speaker 2: BC's back, baby, It's awesome. It's all. Look, this is
Speaker 2: not a college football town. We all know it. Dan
Speaker 2: Shaughnessy joining me, my friend here from the Boston Globe.
Speaker 2: The Boston College Eagles pulled off a mammoth upset. I mean, Danny,
Speaker 2: they were like sixteen and a half point underdogs. They
Speaker 2: come out on the road at Florida State University and
Speaker 2: they take him to the woodshed. How about that? That
Speaker 2: was something. It was fun. I mean, when BC's good,
Speaker 2: it's fun, right.
Speaker 3: That was really impressive.
Speaker 5: I tuned in and I'm not a big college football
Speaker 5: dog like most people who live here. I know, the
Speaker 5: reach of the program that you're anchoring here is is
Speaker 5: very vast and goes to many places that are college
Speaker 5: football towns and areas, and we just don't happen.
Speaker 3: To be one pro town.
Speaker 5: But that was for BC, I mean, about as good
Speaker 5: as it's gotten the last forty years. I mean, it
Speaker 5: was really an impressive, impressive win. As you say, you know,
Speaker 5: on the road, sixteen and a half point dogs win
Speaker 5: by fifteen, and you know, now you look ahead. I
Speaker 5: mean they've they've got Michigan State coming in here in
Speaker 5: two or three weeks, and that's the week before Michigan
Speaker 5: State plays Ohio States, so maybe they'll catch them nap.
Speaker 5: And I everybody just got a lot more serious about BC.
Speaker 5: I think seeing them on their schedule now it's something
Speaker 5: for the ACC to have a team that's that's kind
Speaker 5: of a sleeper in the overall picture of it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, like you say, it was a good moment
Speaker 3: and good for them, Well we're.
Speaker 2: Going to need it because the Patriots are just you know,
Speaker 2: it's not good. I mean, it's just not good. Which
Speaker 2: I'll get to that in a minute. Which as far
Speaker 2: as I'm concerned, that's fine. We've had an amazing run.
Speaker 2: We'll let Kansas City and the other other teams have
Speaker 2: their fun right now, because it was a tremendous run
Speaker 2: for us, as you know. But I also like the
Speaker 2: way they win the game because there was a running
Speaker 2: game involved. It wasn't just simply Madden Football.
Speaker 5: Right, They were doing a lot between the tackles's kind
Speaker 5: of going straight at them. And really in Florida State,
Speaker 5: and again I don't follow this like a lot of
Speaker 5: your audience, I suppose, but the Florida State, man, what's
Speaker 5: the story they lose to Georgia Tech. They're still ranked
Speaker 5: tenth in the country. There's only one team, and they're
Speaker 5: at home, and the quarterback just looked really bad. I
Speaker 5: just couldn't believe it was missing open guys and not
Speaker 5: just taking anything away from what BC did. And you know,
Speaker 5: Bill O'Brien, I mean, good on them, but I just
Speaker 5: was surprised at the ineptitude that team last year. You know,
Speaker 5: there was a lot of noise about them at the
Speaker 5: end with their defeated record and why aren't they in
Speaker 5: the mix here and this and that and and it's
Speaker 5: turned out I don't know a little bit of fraudulents
Speaker 5: going on there. But as you say, Gary, you know
Speaker 5: we're not a college town.
Speaker 3: And I can tell you I remember distinctly.
Speaker 5: It's funny you bring up about the Patriots being bad,
Speaker 5: and so maybe BC and fill that gap a little
Speaker 5: bit because because a long time ago two thousand and seven,
Speaker 5: BC was ranked second in the country in football for
Speaker 5: two weeks and that was the Matt Ryan era, right,
Speaker 5: and they really had it going. And I think O'Brien
Speaker 5: was still the coach then, and this was like in October.
Speaker 5: It wasn't early, it was in the middle, Virginia Tech
Speaker 5: beat them to get them off the number two perch.
Speaker 5: But so in our town they're number two in the country.
Speaker 5: And I'm telling you, no one was aware of this.
Speaker 5: And here's why Red Sox won the World Series. In
Speaker 5: October of two thousand and seven, the Patriots were going
Speaker 5: eighteen and oh on their revenge tour. Kevin Garnett had
Speaker 5: just come on to the Celtics in the Watford Deal
Speaker 5: and they were beginning a championship run for the two
Speaker 5: thousand and seven to eight Celtics, And you had the
Speaker 5: number two football team in America and no one was
Speaker 5: aware of it, and it just sort of.
Speaker 3: Came and went. So that's our town.
Speaker 5: And I don't you know, radio shows like the one
Speaker 5: you're doing and the all sports talk shows in our
Speaker 5: town they don't the college guest, whether it's basketball, football,
Speaker 5: they just don't get the audience or they don't get
Speaker 5: any kind of conversation going the way it would anywhere else.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the connection is there has to be
Speaker 2: a local tie. Now we can go back to cowboy
Speaker 2: Jack mcnell, who coached at the University of Maine, and
Speaker 2: it was just a sweet guy with the cowboy boots
Speaker 2: and played the guitar and loved his country music. And
Speaker 2: Doug Flutie of course, right Fluty Media was a native kid,
Speaker 2: a local kid, you know. When you look at that
Speaker 2: team you talked about, were coached Tom O'Brien, and I
Speaker 2: remember talking to him, nice man, but he was also
Speaker 2: a little frustrated. He didn't really understand the ways of
Speaker 2: the world here. That BC is almost it's like a
Speaker 2: and I don't want to be insulting, but it's it's
Speaker 2: like a gem. It's like every once in a while,
Speaker 2: if you have the right personalities attached to the program,
Speaker 2: people will get behind it. For a while, when Al
Speaker 2: Skinner was coaching with the basketball team, Jimmy O'Brien with
Speaker 2: the basketball team, Jerry Yorke again local guy with the
Speaker 2: hockey team, and that team you mentioned with Tom O'Brien,
Speaker 2: you know the quarterback. He's great. Ryan's a great kid.
Speaker 2: He was from New York. O'Brien was a military guy,
Speaker 2: came out of Virginia. There was no connection, you know,
Speaker 2: And that's why I wanted to talk about this tonight
Speaker 2: because of Billy O'Brien. Now, you and I both covered
Speaker 2: him when he was with the Patriots. This guy went
Speaker 2: to Brown. He's got a North Andover. He had the
Speaker 2: he had the impossible job of working with Brady after
Speaker 2: Josh left. We all know when Billy got in a
Speaker 2: fight with Tom on the sidelines. I'm rooting for Billy O'Brien.
Speaker 2: I'm just rooting for the guy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: No, that makes a lot of sense, and he's you know,
Speaker 3: this could be a perfect fit.
Speaker 5: I mean you always wonder if the guys has found
Speaker 5: a home and given his age, as you point out,
Speaker 5: his local roots, and he's done a lot in the NFL.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know when the Houston Texans had it going,
Speaker 5: you know he was. He was all there for that,
Speaker 5: and then the offensive coordinator for the Patriots and the
Speaker 5: last Penn.
Speaker 2: State he turned Penn State around. I mean, Danny, I
Speaker 2: mean Penn State was coming out of it. I remember
Speaker 2: when he took the Penn State gig. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you remember this, but Belichick I was talking to
Speaker 2: somebody I can't hell him and a Benzoe or something,
Speaker 2: you know, who knows, but like Belichick told him, you
Speaker 2: take that Penn State job because it was after the
Speaker 2: whole you know, uh, pedophilia scandal, I mean just terrible,
Speaker 2: and people didn't want the job, you know, and paternal
Speaker 2: I think it passed away. I mean it was just
Speaker 2: the thing was in the dumps and people told him
Speaker 2: to take it and he did and it was actually
Speaker 2: the right move for him.
Speaker 3: Yep, you know it was.
Speaker 5: I mean, they had they had way more success quickly
Speaker 5: than anybody thought they would or could given what he
Speaker 5: walked into. And that's absolutely true. And you know, another
Speaker 5: another great part of his resume. And that's why I
Speaker 5: wonder if you know, there's only one game in, but
Speaker 5: this this would have been a good day to renegotiate
Speaker 5: because I mean, he looks like a guy that you
Speaker 5: want to keep and and build around because it's been
Speaker 5: it's been tough sledding over there for quite some time,
Speaker 5: as you know, and uh, and this would be a
Speaker 5: you know, this could be a game changer for the
Speaker 5: for the school's football program, which is just you know,
Speaker 5: it's just been a while and and you know, going
Speaker 5: back to it was not him, but last year there
Speaker 5: was that everybody kind of laughed.
Speaker 3: At the Wasabi Bowl and that was sort of a tell.
Speaker 5: It was at Fenway Park in December on a Wednesday
Speaker 5: morning and was raining and it was a horrible day
Speaker 5: and there was no one in the lower bowl of
Speaker 5: Fenway of the stands, and and they they they took
Speaker 5: it to SMU, which was you know, they had been
Speaker 5: a ranked team and and came here and just lost
Speaker 5: their way. BC took it to him. So it was
Speaker 5: something to work with, uh with with the changeover of coaches.
Speaker 5: And now he's come in and he's like, hey, why
Speaker 5: can't we be good at football?
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 2: Well, I think he's the key. I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I think look, we all remember flute Mania and I'll
Speaker 2: ask you to remind on that and just a little bit.
Speaker 2: But he again a local guy. Coach Tom Brady, coach
Speaker 2: of the Patriots, did a very good job with Houston,
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, turnpen State around. But he's one of us,
Speaker 2: and I think that that's why it's going to work.
Speaker 2: And you're right, this is probably he's a little bit older. Now,
Speaker 2: why would he want to go anywhere else? And if
Speaker 2: BC is smart, you keep him here for like five years.
Speaker 2: Just do it. Because Dan, I don't know about you,
Speaker 2: but I can't keep up with college football the conferences.
Speaker 2: I died a big twenty four and you know the
Speaker 2: Pac eighteen and that's gone now and everything is all
Speaker 2: over the road. So you know, it's it's very hard
Speaker 2: unless you're Alabama or Georgia, it's very hard to be relevant.
Speaker 2: And you know, this is the guy that could, This
Speaker 2: is the guy that could make them relevant.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's you know, it's such a tall order in
Speaker 5: this region. But he can make he can make them.
Speaker 5: I just don't know when you're a college coach in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four, how you hold onto your talent, you know,
Speaker 5: with the nil money and guys you know, with barcodes
Speaker 5: in the back of their helmets, and you know.
Speaker 3: Everybody's available to transfer.
Speaker 5: If they don't like the way things are, they're in
Speaker 5: the portal and they're gone. And I don't know how
Speaker 5: fans you know, and even in thee die in the
Speaker 5: wool college regions. How do you stay behind this when well,
Speaker 5: hell and basketball, you got a whole new team coming
Speaker 5: in every year, four or five new starters every year
Speaker 5: because of what went down in football. It's just everything's
Speaker 5: for sale and I have a hard time getting behind it.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's great for the betters, it's great TV programming.
Speaker 5: It's great for fantasy And you know, America was got
Speaker 5: a wake up call last weekend when college football getting going.
Speaker 5: Here we go and everybody's into it.
Speaker 3: I have a hard time getting into it.
Speaker 5: And to me, I don't know why anyone would want
Speaker 5: to coach it because just of holding on to your
Speaker 5: people and the recruiting and the travel and just keeping
Speaker 5: people on board. I mean, it's as you say, the
Speaker 5: landscape of college football is just impossible to track anymore.
Speaker 3: UCLA is flying like around the world this year.
Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy to.
Speaker 3: Do their schedule. It's crazy, and it's just like, it's
Speaker 3: what is that?
Speaker 5: And I might mention Miami of Florida their tight end.
Speaker 5: He caught a touchdown pass over the weekend.
Speaker 3: It's his ninth year.
Speaker 5: At college football, played Blueto, seven years of college down
Speaker 5: the dream and he finally caught a touchdown.
Speaker 2: It's no, it's crazy. Basketball I think has really been
Speaker 2: hurt because the Yukon teams with Danny Hurley, they were
Speaker 2: fun to watch, but I mean, come on, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, they're nothing compared to what we've seen in
Speaker 2: the past with great college championship teams and it's because
Speaker 2: of the player movement.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't. You don't have a kid, You get
Speaker 3: a kid for a year, he goes somewhere else for years.
Speaker 2: Well that's the coaches, you know, now, you know, that's
Speaker 2: maybe where Billy O'Brien can It's kind of like the
Speaker 2: Big with the way the Big East used to be
Speaker 2: for basketball, where it was all about the coaches. You know,
Speaker 2: maybe if you stick with your coach and you go
Speaker 2: play for a coach, whether it's Kirby down in Georgia,
Speaker 2: you know, or over to Alabama, or maybe somebody wants
Speaker 2: to play for O'Brien here. You know, maybe that's the
Speaker 2: way it goes. I don't know. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 5: It's it's like Charlie Baker's running the NC Double A
Speaker 5: and he's not gonna lose a lot of sleepover because
Speaker 5: it is unfixable. But it's changes every week every.
Speaker 3: It's just I can't keep up with it. But this
Speaker 3: was a good start. CBC do what they did, and
Speaker 3: everybody around.
Speaker 5: Here is a little bit more into it as they
Speaker 5: go into their second third week.
Speaker 2: Danny, it's always great to talk to you, my friend,
Speaker 2: have a good night. Thanks for coming on anytime, all right,
Speaker 2: Buddy Dance Chaughnessy columnists of the Boston Globe. One of
Speaker 2: the great ones who has seen it all. He has
Speaker 2: seen it all. I great Dan Shaughnessy's story. Two thousand
Speaker 2: and four Red Sox they sweep the Saint Louis Cardinals.
Speaker 2: I'm outside the team hotel. Players are getting on the
Speaker 2: bus and Danny goes for a run. Danny comes back
Speaker 2: from a jog, and we all know Dan was like,
Speaker 2: you know, the curse of the Bambino, I mean, just
Speaker 2: the keeper of the gate. But Danna Stowe has been
Speaker 2: like the keeper of Boston sports. He really has been,
Speaker 2: and he has not lost his fastball by any stretch
Speaker 2: of the imagination. He's still a phenomenal read. And I
Speaker 2: mean there he just says, now it's not the same anymore.
Speaker 2: They won, it's just not as much fun. And in
Speaker 2: a way he was right, you know, I mean, the
Speaker 2: curse was over, the charm was gone. They were winners.
Speaker 2: And seven they went on and they won again, swept
Speaker 2: the Rockies, and they just weren't the lovable losers anymore.
Speaker 2: And it look for guys like me and Dad, you know,
Speaker 2: we've had our day. We're all older. The game used
Speaker 2: to be enough. He's right, the game used to be enough.
Speaker 2: But for kids now, they need two screens. They need
Speaker 2: to watch about it. They need to watch the fantasy
Speaker 2: and the gambling though thing worries the hell out of me.
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you, the fact that gambling
Speaker 2: is legal and there's a lot of kids in college
Speaker 2: and I've talked to some parents where, you know, kids
Speaker 2: start betting on games, and that worries me. That's it's
Speaker 2: very easy. It's very easy to bet on football games
Speaker 2: if you're a college kid, or even if you're out
Speaker 2: of high school and you're over eighteen and you're working
Speaker 2: and a hundred bucks a year, a hundred bucks there,
Speaker 2: and then you win. And just remember, man, the house
Speaker 2: always wins. The house always wins. One of my favorite actors,
Speaker 2: Chris Bauer, you know who he is, joins us next
Speaker 2: here on wbz's Night Side.