Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons. Throwing some ice,
mixing some vodka.
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Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots Jeep Ram.
Speaker 1: It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 3: Hello and welcome.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited because Danny's here tonight. He's got a
lot of thoughts.
Speaker 3: I know it. I saw his notes and I just
started laughing. I could. And I don't mean that in
a bad way, like that's.
Speaker 2: So mean, but I I just go, oh, my god,
like some of them are smeared, like put my soup
on my Oh you're souping it.
Speaker 3: Melted the ink there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I got I got it, I got rings.
Speaker 2: So I got you. Okay, Well I.
Speaker 1: Looked at my wife. Oh I gotta write better notes.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the Yankees are on a little bit of
a roll here. I mean, after ten to one lost
over the weekend to the Blue.
Speaker 4: Thirteen to seven loss, and then they were down six
to one last night.
Speaker 2: But here comes Aaron comes Judge on jazz time when
we needed it.
Speaker 4: So that's the thing about like think about the Yanks
with Aaron Judge is that he's the first Yankee that
could actually like it's always been a hack sports talk
talk topic about the melt Rushmore of whatever, Yes, right sure,
and the Yankees Mount Rushmore has always been Babe Ruth,
Lou Garrig, Joe Demaggio and Mickey Mantle.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 4: And as good as the nineties Yankees were winning four
championships and as good as Derek Jeter was, nobody could
even come close to etching their face on that monument.
Speaker 1: That's how great those guys were.
Speaker 4: Aaron Judge by actually knocked Joe Demaggio off that Mantle.
Except one thing, He's never won a championshop, but happen, right,
it could, Yeah.
Speaker 3: It could.
Speaker 4: Like thing it's about. It's like Heater and Judge are
both great now. Judge has always been a better baseball
player than Jeter. Jeter was a shortstop. Judges and outfielder, judges,
different judges.
Speaker 1: A home runner.
Speaker 3: Wasn't that great he was?
Speaker 1: It took him five years to get to the majors.
Speaker 4: Jeter came up when he was like twenty years old,
judging the Cup till he was twenty five. But when
he came up, he became like, like, I don't.
Speaker 2: Have a click clicked.
Speaker 4: Yeah he is, he was he and o'tanier the faces
of baseball, like he is one of the greatest players
of all time, and Jeter's at all time great, but
he's not one of the greatest of all time, right,
And Judge could do that. But if he has no
rings in Yankee in Yankee Land, Yankee Lor Yankee Lor.
Speaker 1: That's that's a that's a you know, and that's not
his fault.
Speaker 3: It's a big deal.
Speaker 4: But in the postseason, Jeter always came through, where as
Judge until last night, he's had a great postseason. But
Judge hasn't been known for coming through in the first
season in the moment, like he hasn't been Reggie Jackson.
Speaker 3: He hasn't been there.
Speaker 2: Got a I got a whole year full on the
boat at my father's memorial over the weekend from my
mom's brother in law. So it would be my my
aunt's husband. And his name is Frank. Frank usually walks
around in sleeveless shirts. They're regular shirts, they're sleeveless. But
Frank shouldn't be now like I don't. I'm just saying
Frank does not. He's not the guy like Frank, he's
gonna and I don't mean anything like this, buy this.
But if my son Jordan walked around with a sleeveless shirt,
I would go, ok, he's got gun I kind of
get it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Frank doesn't have Frank.
Speaker 2: Frank has funds, fun bags.
Speaker 1: Like it's like he's got guods. He's funds, he's got he's.
Speaker 2: Got lunch lady arms flapping, and he's got wings. He's
got bat wings. He's got some fucking bat wings man.
And but I think he was wearing a But every
time I see Frank, I say, if you were gonna bet,
just on a random day, Frank's in a sleepless shirt.
Speaker 3: I don't even know where he shops.
Speaker 2: They're not tank top standing their T shirts without the sleep.
Speaker 3: He didn't cut them off.
Speaker 2: They came this way.
Speaker 4: You get because we know we used to know a
guy who a white kid dj Uh used to like
like Moonlight as a rapper. And you have all these
tattoos on his arms, but they were skinny as heck.
Speaker 1: And I asked, Tommy, why does this dude like wear
sleeveless shirts.
Speaker 4: He's got no muscle, twing brow look at him.
Speaker 2: I don't remember this guy?
Speaker 1: Oh you know who he was. Okay, I'll tell you after.
Speaker 2: Yeah, please, Yeah, I don't need that. I don't need
more phone calls.
Speaker 1: You know, really, you've gotten a lot of folks got
phone calls.
Speaker 3: That's good, Billy, that's wonderful.
Speaker 4: We're that tie that like somebody said, nobody listened to
our show and then you made fun of that person.
They're My phone lit up like a Christmas tree, like,
oh so nobody's missing the uh douche.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I used to say a lot of things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you should because it's all true.
Speaker 2: Uh, A couple of things. Dan, you're a supplement guy,
I am. You are recommend them. You you promote them.
Speaker 3: They give you energy.
Speaker 4: I got to do's now setting me videos about supplements?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Who is our friend Shortsha?
Speaker 3: I got to get back to.
Speaker 2: I feel bad because Shortia start got my number and
he's been texting every once in a while, and I
have been so like my head.
Speaker 1: Other places stuff going on.
Speaker 2: No, it's okay, it's not an excuse. Plate No, it's
not an excuse. I I hate to do that, but
I feel like I haven't given Soorsia the right amount
of attention. He's got a great car, and he wanted
to get back into racing and he's doing a whole.
Speaker 4: Course on it. Yeah, getting back into it and stuff.
Speaker 2: So I hooked told him to get and we were
at the same cars and coffee. I actually went there
because I thought he was going to be there. Kevin
was not the guy who owns the shop. It's on
our friend Kevin, but Kevin van Volkenberg. He was down
at the Glen that weekend. So I'd love to to
hook up with Sorsha and I'd love to, you know,
find a way. Maybe Sosia and I can go head
to head on the track.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he'd love that. Yeah, Sources is a good dude.
But like he's he actually has a huge follow I
got YouTube.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure he does, and we didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't know this. I go, bro, you have fifteen
thousand followers. Yeah you never brought this up. Oh yeah,
it's just you know, it was you know, past life.
I go, that's fifteen thousand people you could.
Speaker 4: Like reach, like right now right where he's like he
gives different advice about different subjects.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting, Uh, that is really interesting.
Speaker 1: One of those is supplements.
Speaker 2: Yes, so my brother uh. Over the weekend might have
got we might have got a little bagged up. Like
I went to bed at one thirty and I already
talked about this, say, I apologize to those people who've
listened to previous episodes. But at one thirty in the morning,
he came in after I went to bed and cracked
a beer open in my ear, so that that meant,
what dandy?
Speaker 3: That the drag?
Speaker 2: That's right, buddy, the siren has sounded the fire alarm. Yeah,
that's it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, your grandfather was a Firefighter's right, A different kind
of firefighter, like a real firefighter.
Speaker 2: Not hey, we had We're real. So I went out
and continue to drink till like three in the morning,
Andatrick I was hurting. Oh yeah, oh yeah. I was
hurting pretty badly the next day and my brother said,
you gotta have a mini musical. I go what he goes, yeah,
mena musical. You get some good fiber stuff going, And
I know, what what what do you?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 2: Do you Okay? So I tried the men of Musical Danny.
My stomach felt like it locked up the rest of
the weekend, and every once in a while, these noxious
gases would escape my body, and they were like bad
and I was trying to blame it on other people,
and my niece goes, I go, I think it was Jackson,
and she's like, no, the smell is coming from over there.
I think it was you. Oh my god, damn. Like
I couldn't escape it. It was so bad, but nothing
was happening. So I came home home and I bought
Meta mucle And it was another day or two and
then I started fucking shitting ropes. I mean, you could
use this stuff as cable to climb, you.
Speaker 1: Know what, you know what to climb, climb.
Speaker 3: Don't use that.
Speaker 1: You don't use Meta mucle.
Speaker 4: Use the top Care, the white and green bottle. That's
the healthiest pre bought Meta mucle type of stuff. Meta
mucle actually is loaded with stuff that you shouldn't take.
But if you scan it with the Yuca app. I
found the Topcare green and white bottle, just like perfect fiber.
And if that doesn't work, flea.
Speaker 2: Seed, well I'm it's working bro that and I always
put uh, I put coconut oil in my coffee, so
that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's a metabolic boost.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The uh so, I just want to tell you
because your your dad died, and I think that you
probably had moments where you wanted to reach out to
your dad. And I've had.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, last night when air Judge hit that home run,
here you go.
Speaker 3: Right, but what would you have called?
Speaker 1: But you see that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, and he did.
Speaker 1: Yeah they got to win tomorrow this one yet.
Speaker 2: But the I've had a few of those moments as
we've gotten closer, and I found this harder. We were
doing this because my dad wanted a big party. When
things said, it kind of settled out. And then where
we grew up, a lot of people couldn't get there,
the co workers of his and stuff, so get to me.
So they this was perfect and it turned out like perfect.
My brother and I were secretly questioning whether three hours
on the boat was going to be, like what are
we going to do for three It was perfect. It
really worked out.
Speaker 1: Let me, let me, let me run the boat, let
me drive the boat. Okay, So I didn't have the
captain now look at me, Hey, hey, look at me,
look at me. I'm the captain now.
Speaker 2: So I did not drink a lot on the boat
on purpose, or drink a lot for me on the boat,
and we're leaving the boat, and I've got uh, I
think it's just me and Jamison. I might have had
some I had to have some kids, Jamison, your son, Jamison,
my son, okay, because it could have been the album.
It could have been. And then I had a couple
of kids in the back. And then as we're behind
my mother and I go oh oh, and a woman
ran a stop sign and drove into my mom's car,
like hit her in the front fender. And so I
pull over to look, now, my mother's car. If you
looked at this, you couldn't tell that she got hit
because she's ding the ship out of this car so
many times. Danny, I go, because somebody goes, what happened?
I popped two dents out?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, there's some people out there who have digged
their car so often that they're waiting to get into
an accident so they can get the car fixed.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I have actually run into two of those people in
my life. Come on, oh yeah, oh yeah. We talked
about it on the on the break Room show. We
talked about it. Tommy goes, brow, you are the unluckiest
son of a.
Speaker 4: Bitch because I just tapped the car in front of me,
and the guy was outside just looking for a free
paint job.
Speaker 3: So my mother's thing happened.
Speaker 1: A month later, somebody else did it to him.
Speaker 3: My mother.
Speaker 2: My mother is all upset, and so I pull over
and she gets out and she doesn't know what to
do and she gets her stuff all fun out and uh,
there's paint scuffs on the young girl's car. That's a
young woman's car, but nothing really I can't tell with
my mom's because it's so beat to shit. And she's like, well,
someone take a picture of her license.
Speaker 3: I don't know what I should do.
Speaker 2: I go, I go, what what are you gonna do? Don't,
don't do, don't do anything. Then Jamison pops out because
he's with me and it's now been like a good
ten minutes. He's getting frustrated sitting in the car. Pops
out and he goes, hey, my March, what do you doing.
You don't even stop like blaming her in a joking way.
Speaker 3: Oh. She snapped on him.
Speaker 2: Like, do not this.
Speaker 3: It's not a funny time to joke.
Speaker 4: He was like, the cops are no okay, because no cops,
first thing can tell you.
Speaker 1: Even though New York's a no fault. State.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you can't really, there was not.
Speaker 2: I mean, what are you gonna do this one? You
could wipe the paint off. Yes, it was that woman's fault.
I was a witness. I saw it. I could see
it coming right, and then it was just a tap.
My mother's car is all dinged up. She's got to buy.
She should buy anyone. She's had a Honda, loves it.
It has run unbelievably well for a million years.
Speaker 1: Right, Hondas and Toyotas are the man.
Speaker 2: She's got a nice leather interior in this thing. The
exterior looks like you just it's the car they skip
if they're gonna rob because you go there can't be
there's nothing. You gotta see this thing like you fenders
and this just.
Speaker 4: Like we worked at high falls. It actually found more
stuff in my truck to take it out of it.
Speaker 1: Someone used it as a toilet seat and moved on.
Speaker 2: But in the meanwhile, my brother goes up. Boy, his
buddy was leaving the boat and flashed his lights on
a one way bridge to let the other car come.
The other car happened to be the state trooper. They
turned around as he went over and they pulled them
over and they said, sir, were you drinking? He decided
to be honest. He said, yep, I've had two beers
in the gen Tonic. I was on a boat for
three hours. They give him a field sobriety test. They
claim he failed. He wouldn't blow, So now, d WI.
Speaker 1: I thought a few refuse.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, but then you get your license back in
six months though, right, but you refuse potentially, like if
you refuse to blow, it's not a matter.
Speaker 1: They yank your license, but then you get it back
in six months.
Speaker 3: I don't know how.
Speaker 4: I don't exactly because I told college, if you know
you're hammered, just refuse and take the license.
Speaker 1: It gets stripped and then you'll get it back.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know if the laws have even become more
strict since then. Probably, you know, that was a good
one for twenty years.
Speaker 1: Yeah to New York. Who else is making the law?
Speaker 2: I don't want to get hit by drunk driver. Neither
do you neither. No, don't want hit by drunk driver.
Speaker 4: So there's a difference between drunk and having a good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand. I don't think this guy was drunk.
I don't know what happened, but my brother had to
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to say we were worried about the Patriots a little bit.
I think Vrabel was a coach that you know what
I mean. It's like, can you get the guys on?
Then can you put the brand of the team together
quickly quickly as a head coach? What are we? What
are we? Are we tenacious? Are we? Hard hitters? Are
we you know, offensively, offense, finesse, whatever it is? What
is our brand? And I heat I feel like he
did that with New England.
Speaker 5: And here's the thing, and I you know last week
I couldn't do the show last week. I text you guys,
I said last Wednesday, new England by three. Now I
said in overtime, but I told you New England by three.
And the reason why is because it comes down to
in my opinion, it comes down to Rabel versus McDermott.
Rabel is a player's coach. You don't need to be
motivated in the NFL. Once you're there, you don't need
a coach or do a raw ross speech to get
you motivated. You should already be motivated, but Rabel will
get you there. He had his guys prepared. And the
one thing that you could see who Rabel was as
a player, the defense. Rallied to the football, watched some
of the film. They flew to the football. You know,
I always say that a defensive players commitment to his
unit is measured between the distance between him and the
ball at the whistle, and all the guys were all
over them. It's a tiny little thing. But the pursuit
angles they took they just had. They were more and
the first half was off of the first quarter was
probably the worst football on both sides I've seen in
a long time, long time. But you know, New England
did a great job on defense. I know Dilson gets
separation with the wide receivers, but a lot of these
thicker fans aren't giving the Patriots credit. They were prepared.
They they did a good job of taking away the
best player. They were disciplined in their pass rush. They
were disciplined with spying Josh Allen. It showed you that
if Josh goes down, they're screwed. This is a this
is a problem. Yeah, they're there toasting big voided towards
the end of the game. He was injured. There's no
question he was injured. And it even showed in his
attack running the football. It was it was a ginger
we run. It wasn't the Josh Allen that we are
all accustomed to. So I think New England was prepared.
I think even on the offensive side of the ball,
they said we're going to keep seven guys in the block.
We think our three guys will beat your defensive backfield,
and they did. Albeit was one guy and Diggs again
give him that motivation factor. He was back in town.
Whoever he has an ax to grind against, he did it.
He was prepared and he played hard. He played harder
than a lot of the Bills on the defense did.
So it's it was. It was an unfortunate but Danny,
we've been talking about this since week one. Have you
sweep things under the road when you're four and out
and then what happens when you're exposed. Now it's a problem.
Speaker 4: Now it's problem, but at least now we could talk
about it. See nobody wanted to talk about it when
they were foreign out. Well, you know, they are four
and oh, well, what do you want, Well they are
four and oh not.
Speaker 1: Now we can talk about it.
Speaker 4: Now we can't because now Atlanta's said two weeks to
get ready for the bills that this is their super
Bowl on Monday night. By the way, the Chick fil
A will be open at Mercedes Benz Stadium. It will well, yeah,
because it's a Monday night game.
Speaker 3: Oh it's a Monday night see, like, yes, that's the
weirdest thing.
Speaker 1: They put a Chick fil A in a stadium that
can't work on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Samson played in Mercedes my son played in Mercedes Benz
Stadium on a Saturday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we got to eat Chick fil A.
Speaker 2: Well, you can sit down in like and watch They
have windows like the I think the cafeteria's below field level,
so you can kind of sit at tables and look
up the window.
Speaker 4: And the prices and the food prices are actually like
Augusta prices. In other words, they're normal price people prices.
Speaker 1: It's cheap.
Speaker 4: It's not like seventeen dollars of beer in Atlanta, like
they have everything like apparently, you know, nineteen eighties prices,
which is nice.
Speaker 1: But the point is, though, is that they're.
Speaker 4: Super Bowls coming up. Every time the Bills play, it's
somebody else's super Bowl. And the funny thing is we
haven't gotten to one yet.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, what's your biggest concern, Peter with the
To me, it's the defense, and.
Speaker 5: It's been in the defense for a while.
Speaker 2: I mean it almost feels like you got to get
rid of guys like Milano. He's hurt too much.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, the injuries are setting in the cornerback.
You know who knows when we're going to get Oh
the rookie, his name's escaping me the draft, the first
run Max Harriston, thank you. We don't know we're going
to get him back. And you know how many weeks
is going to take him. He's just already.
Speaker 1: That defense is so freaking complicated.
Speaker 4: That's why McDermot has to keep bringing guys back Bayal
and Spregnor.
Speaker 2: Are we better off with McDermott running the defense or
do we like the way things are?
Speaker 1: I don't like the way things are.
Speaker 4: But there's some people who think that Leslie Fraser did
a better job running the defense.
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure about that.
Speaker 5: I think thirteen seconds wasn't him I think that.
Speaker 1: Was McDermott those a'rban. Oh, that was definitely.
Speaker 5: I think that's why he's gone because Leslie didn't like that.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, well that was part of it.
Speaker 4: But then, like the what the nail in Leslie's coffin
was the Bengals loss in the playoffs. The defensive backs
were playing seven eight yards off the line of scrimmage
against t Higgins and Edge.
Speaker 1: And Jamark Chase and so Joe Burgers just won slants.
I'll catch up with you. Yeah, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.
Speaker 5: I think another thing, Bill. We could talk about the
defense all day. But the one thing that the Patriots
did they played a lot of man coverage because they
don't think that the receivers can get separation. And I
will say there were a couple of times where they did,
but Josh pulled the ball down a little too early.
He may have seen something that he liked from a
run perspective. But they disguised the spy pretty well. So
if you have discipline defensive ends that take away the perimeter,
and then you have a linebacker who's fighting Allen that's
an athlete Chasen down, that's a big problem for Buffalo
big problem and the Patriots have. The matchup was really good.
The Patriots match up very well against the Bills, and
it showed could that game have gone either way. Yeah,
there were a couple of times where Goodness gracious that
one fumble that Josh had no I know that one
attacker for loss where they did the mesh point where
he the defensive end for the New England adultrics landing
down the line of scrimmage. You're supposed to hand it
off at that point. So I don't know if it
was predetermined by him. I don't care what happens. I'm
taking it. But if he would have handed that ball off,
it's a touchdown. The other place clear as that touchdown.
So I in the fumble the Knox, they don't run
that play a lot that fleet flicker or they don't run.
So I don't know if they were trying to get
a little too gimmicky, but if they did make a
clean hand off the Knox, that's a big gainer.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, that's what mcdermam was alluding to.
Speaker 4: At first, I was kind of like, come on, Shaw,
it's your team, but he did say I thought we
got a little too cute at times, and I think
he might.
Speaker 1: He was probably right. They were, they were. I mean,
they didn't utilize those two three tight end sets like
they've done in the past. And it's like, here's the thing.
New England they said has the best secondary in the NFL.
They're gonna see this year.
Speaker 4: Okay, So then why are you throwing your B and
C level receivers out there when you got two stud
tight ends or one stun tight end and two other
guys that can like you can go to.
Speaker 1: I mean, Dawstin is in the stud tight end, but
he could be used. He could catch the ball occasionally.
Speaker 5: That's why. And you could see it on TV and
I was texting you, like, they can't cover Kincaid in
the second now once he gets to the second level, they.
Speaker 1: Could not cover him twenty and twenty three yard catches
I think he had.
Speaker 2: Which is not rare for a tight end, right, I mean,
they're not usually twenty and twenty three years.
Speaker 1: You're not getting those big games.
Speaker 2: No, it's usually.
Speaker 5: That's why I wonder that. But I wonder if this
moniker everybody eats is now a touchment, if the is
if he's beating his if he's getting his position right,
keep going, he can catches, keep going to him. Stop this,
everybody each stuff because it's not gonna it's not gonna work. Peter,
do you remember something on the defense Pete going at
it until they stop you.
Speaker 4: Peter, you remember Mark Burnell and Chad Pennington, even Peyton
Manning toward the end of his career when his arm
was shot. What did opposing defenses do to these guys
when their arms were shot. Okay, we're gonna stack the box.
We're gonna make you beat us with your arm, right.
And unfortunately, the Bills have a quarterback who could literally
throw the ball from rich Stadium to the new Hi
Mark Stadium being built across the street if he wanted to.
But yet, but yet, no, we can't do that because
we don't have a receiver who could go out and
get the ball.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna have to play so they could play.
Speaker 4: That stack the box def Stack the box defense against
the Bills because their quarterback has the arm, but they
don't have the receiver to go out and get it,
and Kiak Coleman can't go out and get the ball.
Speaker 1: Josh Palmer had a penalty that wiped out a drive.
Speaker 4: Last week, Kurtis samuel I had a touchdown, but so
what he's been useless since he's been in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: And you're right, this everybody eats stuff is for the birds.
Speaker 4: And by the way, James Cook's been playing well this year,
the backup running backs haven't done anything either.
Speaker 1: Ty Jackson isn't catching the ball in the backfield.
Speaker 4: So it's like it's Dalton Kikaid or it's Josh Allen,
or it's it's James Cooks.
Speaker 1: And that's not enough.
Speaker 4: You need a stud receiver to go out there. You know,
you have to stretch the field, just catch the ball,
just get separation, and they're not doing that. And to
be honest with you, the defense played relatively well considered.
He was the offense that really shot themselves to the
feet in this game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I defense only gave up twenty three points.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, two for four, Like do we only got
in the red zone four times. They scored two touchdowns
and four red zone appearances. Now the other two are
field goals and that's all the difference you needed. But
that one Allen interception that like you know, they're driving
down the field, they could have scored all of a sudden,
here comes doing them back down the field.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a ten to fourteen point swing.
Speaker 5: There, Peter, do we think drag he made some FROs
that yeah, he might not again, I mean, my goodness,
give him all the credit in the world.
Speaker 1: Well he looked like seventeen.
Speaker 2: Yeah he did. And as Collins said, oh yeah, yeah.
But is this a wake up call you think that
they're going to hear or is this room for concern?
Speaker 5: I think I think every loss is a wake up call,
especially the margin of I don't know, I don't know
what you call it, but there's not much room for
air here in the AFC. Now, welcome Jacksonville to the conversation.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: Not.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, all these teams.
Speaker 5: Are trying to get better in the off season, and
they introduced them different things.
Speaker 2: It's hard.
Speaker 5: Look, I know it's a ninety nine yard interception return,
but you know what they played the game they won
the d Kansas City signature win for that sure was.
Speaker 2: The signature winning by the way. Uh the quarterback what's
his name for Jacksonville? What's your large Lawrence? Trevor Lawrence,
like did not let mistakes ruin the game for him.
He could have hung his head.
Speaker 4: I mean he looked like twenty twenty two Josh Allen,
where I make my mistakes, but.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bail myself out.
Speaker 3: Keep coming back. And he man, he did, he didn't.
He looked like, wow, exception, that's what we thought we
would say.
Speaker 2: This guy, Yes, ten.
Speaker 5: Yard line that interception he threw down by the ten
yard line. Oh soldier, you don't see him. No, And
he said it was a throw that was he had
the he had a window of the size of the
shoe box to fit it in. Yeah, that wasn't the
normal Josh Allen that we all know in the past
couple of years. That was the twenty twenty twenty twenty
to twenty two Josh Allen. He was he was pressing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little scary as they head down to Mercedes
Benz Stadium for a Monday night game with Chick fil
A open.
Speaker 1: Yes, uh, well, how do you feel those cows are
going to be motivated?
Speaker 2: How do you feel about this?
Speaker 5: I think you know, first, if I'm the defensive coordinator,
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You have to confuse some coverages, pre snap looks, do
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have talent now, they have a great running back. Yes,
John Robinson, defensive ends are good. They're gonna see some
very good defensive lineman with Atlanta. It's not gonna be
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Speaker 3: Your your prediction last week of Philadelphia? I on that,
how about look a little bleak?
Speaker 2: You did say it? You said it, and I was like,
oh boy. And then people are going, is there more
pressure on the Bills now because they're the only four
to ozero team left at this point. And then Dan.
Speaker 6: Though Sean Payton played an awesome game against the team
because what he did was he went for two and
knew that if I'm kicking a field goal, We're gonna
go up four and we're gonna take away that rugby style.
We're going to force them to throw the ball, actually
have an offense in have to score a touchdown rather
than this bullshit, you know, rugby stuff and get it,
get a a field goals. That was awesome. They played
great and again Saquon Barkley six carries all game.
Speaker 2: Yeah he's not hurt.
Speaker 4: What what is going on?
Speaker 1: Did you hear? What did you hear about this?
Speaker 3: Shoot this?
Speaker 4: Apparently Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley, former Giant and A. J. Brown,
had a two hour, not a one hour, not a
forty five minute, but two hour meeting with the three
of them to iron things out.
Speaker 2: Well, it sounds yeah, it sounds like it's the leaders
of the team sitting down with the problem child, would
it not. Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, but is Antoni is A J. Brown the problem?
Or is the problem the quarterback?
Speaker 2: I think the problem is maybe the head take a
little bit of bull.
Speaker 6: It's the problems quarterback which is making now a J.
Brown the problem because he's bitching and moaning that he's
not not getting the ball, number one receiver. I'll tell
him he'll be the next guy to ask out. He's
gonna want, he's gonna you watched I'll take him a
demand trade.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh god, will.
Speaker 1: Skiells have no room?
Speaker 2: They can't. They can't do Anything's hospital Danny never say
never business, you know you can. You can manipulate things,
put things on there.
Speaker 4: People who said that, like locally, who say the salary
cap is a myth, I'm like, okay, go sign everybody then, Yeah,
who doesnt want to play with josh all Gold do it?
Speaker 1: Well, it's a myth.
Speaker 2: I think it's a guideline. I don't know that it's
just stringent, you know what I mean? It is, But
it's like having that big balloon down.
Speaker 1: It's like that big balloon payment the mortage coming down
the road.
Speaker 2: We're still paying for Bania how many years later? And
that's your beloved Mets, my friend.
Speaker 4: I I just had to use that as By the way,
do you realize the Yankees match Jets and Giants and
Knicks spend over a billion dollars a year on players
and haven't won anything since twenty eleven?
Speaker 2: Wow? Did not know that? Did not know?
Speaker 6: In MetLife Stadium, obviously, we know that the Giants and
the Jets share that stadium, and since it's been open
since twenty ten, sixteen years, there has been one playoff
game NFL playoff game there.
Speaker 1: That's super ridiculous that it's the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: Yeah, crazy, unreal.
Speaker 3: So the Eagles are going into New York Thursday night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Monday night.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so how do you think? I mean, it's
the Giants. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 6: And they've had they've had our number for several years now.
There's always a motivation factor of Saquon Barkley that he'll
put up his biggest game now. He rushed for six
six carries last game. Watch him explode Thursday night. Our
run defense isn't great. However, I think the Giants. I
think they're getting seven and a half. I like them
to hang. I think they can hang. I would I
would take that seven and a half. I think it'll
be closer than some expect. I think Dart comes back.
Had rough game. Giants were just rough all round on Sunday.
But I think they will. I think they'll be all
right Thursday. Not tall task to win, but I think
they can make it a game.
Speaker 5: And be there.
Speaker 1: I think it's a close one. Do you Yeah, think
the Eagles will win, but I think the Giants are
going to cover with a seven and a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, NFC East rivalry, this is
a big This is big.
Speaker 1: It's a big deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Low scoring too. Whenever it's a low scoring total, you
always side with the team getting, you know, points, especially
over a field goal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, touchdown the under overs forty and a half.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not a lot, No, it's not so.
Speaker 6: But the forty and a half, that's there's a lot
of value to the seven and a half.
Speaker 2: Then talk to me about the Broncos Jets in London.
The nine thirty Sunday morning.
Speaker 6: That'll be a bit. I mean, I gotta be another
Brono low scoring game and Jets plus what do they
get Danny seven and a half?
Speaker 2: Seven?
Speaker 1: No, it's a straight seven straight touchdown right now.
Speaker 6: I take I take that. I take the Jets. Yes,
they're winless, but I mean they're they're kind of right there. Yeah,
I don't think you know, and I don't think the
Broncos are a seven point favorite on a neutral.
Speaker 2: Site when you're looking at some other games for Week seven.
One that I don't know why, and I'm not even
sure if this is one you would circle to pick.
But the Panther surprised me last week. They came back
against Miami. And what even surprised me more is that
McDaniel still has a job the head coach of the
Miami Dolphins. I don't know if he'll keep a job.
I think it's a hard thing to let go of
a head coach because I think a head coach is
sort of the brand of the team, and a lot
of times when you look at the guys who become
interim head coaches, they don't last. They even if they
get the head coaching job, they don't last.
Speaker 1: And that's it.
Speaker 4: I mean the theory behind that is twofold one, like,
if he fires McDaniel, he's got to fire the general
manager who hired him, Chris Career, who's been there through
three head coaches, which is a lot. And second, this
is the same guy who offered to pay McDaniel's predecessor
about what one hundred thousand dollars a game that he
lost and so they could tank to get to a
tongue of ilo and he wouldn't do it. Yeah, anyway,
so it's like, well, the guy's got. If he sucks,
then we'll get a high draft pick. If he's good,
we make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I win either way. Why pay this guy to sit out?
So that's the theory.
Speaker 4: But if he loses the locker room and juice you
could attest to this, then you gotta get he's got.
Speaker 2: Like the same guy at the bodium anymore, he would
like if.
Speaker 6: You're gonna because no way he coaches there next year,
might not just get it done now. And with bringing
in an interim coach as most times you see last
just the Raiders last year, they fired right right Antonio
came in and they rally around the interim coach and
you ran off a couple wins, but nothing's permanent.
Speaker 2: And then he's gone, you know, And then he's gone,
and now it's it's Carol.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because yeah, they hired him on a motion Antonio
Piers a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: Remember they almost.
Speaker 4: Beat the Chiefs, I mean, you know, or they beat
the Chiefs. No, I'm sorry, they beat the Chiefs on Christmas.
Everybody's like, this is the guy, this is the guy, right,
and then last year that becomes the thing. But it's
the Panthers and the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: I think Cowboys offense looks amazing. I think Dak Prescott
at least right now is in the m VP conversation.
Speaker 3: Uh the Panthers suck. So what should we do here?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 6: Panthers? What is it? Two and a half?
Speaker 1: Three?
Speaker 2: Three?
Speaker 6: I take the Panthers at home.
Speaker 1: Cows can't play defense. Okay, straight on the Jets don't
count straight up or spread.
Speaker 6: I take the spread.
Speaker 3: Always take the point with.
Speaker 1: The underdog, You take the if you believe in the underdog,
take the points.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, all right, that's interesting because that's a way
closer than I thought it would be.
Speaker 6: The spread, which which then the public proceeds at and says,
oh my god, Ells is only minus three? Hammer it
and no, that's there's a reason why it's only three.
They will uh, they will keep that close.
Speaker 2: There's another game at one o'clock. Brown Steelers looks interesting
to me.
Speaker 3: Yes, this this is do I mean, why are you laughing?
Speaker 1: You explained it.
Speaker 6: Well, Dylan Gabriel. It'll be his first true road start,
and the Browns have a brutal travel schedule. They were
in Detroit, then they flew over to London, and most
teams they have the option. The NFL asked them if
they want to buy right after their international trip. The
Browns aren't doing it for some reason. And they're playing now,
not even at home. They're going to Pittsburgh. So I
think that's just I think there's a bad spot for them,
and I think they get I could think the I
think they get blown out. I like the Pittsburgh what
five and a half. I like them to cover that
all day.
Speaker 2: Danny.
Speaker 1: They traded Joe Flacco within the division. That's how little.
Speaker 3: Everywhile.
Speaker 4: Of course, we gotta work like the midday talk shows
have the work. Shador Sanders into the conversations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they.
Speaker 6: Haven't even they haven't even did they announce that today?
Speaker 2: I oh, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't know number two yet.
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's the number two. I mean
they've got they've gotten rid of everybody else.
Speaker 1: I don't know who's left on the roster. Is DeShawn
Watson able to play? They gonna activate him?
Speaker 2: They do, no, no, no, he's getting a massage, funny
getting a rub down.
Speaker 6: Steelers off a bye because remember they were overseas and
they took the buy, so I think they absolutely collaborate.
I like them hard big time on.
Speaker 2: Uh who else is jumping off the page? A because
there is some other interesting ones. I mean I liked
that that forty nine Ers Bucks game could be interesting.
Speaker 6: That was my next one. San France plus three, Yeah
take that. Mat Jones is actually playing really well and
that was an unbelievable game. He got the ship beat
out of him Thursday night.
Speaker 2: I won.
Speaker 4: I was texting Juicter of that game, like, literally, where
is this kid gonna do his post game press conference
from the ice bath? I mean they were carrying him.
I didn't think he was going to go back out there.
But the backup quarterbacks not warming up, he goes back.
Speaker 1: He was a tough kid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I go.
Speaker 4: They should just give him the Comeback Player of the
Year award for this game alone. I mean, there's bits
of bad football this year, and there's also some great games,
and this was a great game.
Speaker 1: It really was.
Speaker 6: It was, and he he had nobody he had. He
was missing his top two wide receivers. They're starting quarterback
and I had the Rams in a survivor pool.
Speaker 3: I thought that was a lot of people.
Speaker 6: Oh, so I was freaking out, and all I wanted
to do I wanted them to kick the field goal,
because if you saw the condition to Jones, there was
no way he was going to keep going. So there
was still six minutes left, they go three and out,
you get the ball back, you could still win that game.
But they call the time out, went for that fourth
and one and did that stupid fucking QB sneak or
whatever with Kylern Williams, and the game was over.
Speaker 1: That was it.
Speaker 6: That is so un that I was not expecting that
from mcday. I thought he would cook up something a
little better than that, especially fourth and one with the
game on the line. But it shouldn't even come down
to that because they fumbled at the one with a
minute and that's right, which was fine because they still
had three timeouts so they were going to get the
ball back. But oh man, that was just that was brutal.
That was tough.
Speaker 4: The Niners were in a situation that the Bills were
in against the Texans a year ago, where they got
the ball like inside the five with only so much
time left and they had to try to run three
plays and like punt the ball away.
Speaker 1: But it was It was a nutty finish. But the
Niners like they won.
Speaker 6: We like this.
Speaker 3: Uh what do you think of the Lions Chiefs game?
That's a Sunday night game? Interesting?
Speaker 6: This is Yeah, this is the juice lock of the week. Okay,
I think I'm like four and one on these Yeah,
Casey minus two and a half.
Speaker 5: Wow, this could be a coma game really by.
Speaker 6: Dad, I mean a bet with a comma in it,
like to the tune of one thousand dollars. Yeah, this
is I love the I love the Chiefs here. This
is a I mean, I hate the must win or whatever,
but I mean this is a big desperation spot for
the Chiefs, and I trust Mahomes all day in this dude,
he was awesome. He was great other than pick six
on Monday night. He is back. He's dialed in the
way he's running the ball, rushing it. He's got three
rushing touchdowns and he leads the lead. He leads the
team and rushing. He is just on a different level.
He knows they got to win. He wants to win,
and I think they do.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 6: I think he picks apart that Lions defense.
Speaker 2: That's I like that.
Speaker 4: So if you bet ten dollars on all of Juice's games,
you will win four hundred and seventy dollars.
Speaker 1: You're a big Rolling Stones fan.
Speaker 2: I love the Rolling Stones.
Speaker 1: You're a big car fan, A car like racing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I like imports and I like So there's
this racing movie that's come out or it's coming out right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the songs from the movie is by Chris Stapleton.
Speaker 4: He's got a Stones ish type of song called I'm
as Bad as I Used to Be?
Speaker 1: Yes, have you heard this song yet?
Speaker 3: I think I did.
Speaker 4: Owes very Rolling Stones like, Like, that's the most Stone
song I.
Speaker 1: Have never heard by a band that isn't by.
Speaker 2: The Rolling Stone so this is it. This is from
the movie that's already out.
Speaker 1: Yes one, yeah, yeah, F one, F one okay.
Speaker 2: Which which, by the way, I think they tried to
make a couple of years ago and they wound up
doing an indie movie about IndyCar because F one wouldn't loud.
Speaker 1: This is the song range tell me does the sell
the roll?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: Right there? Oh my god, Yeah, I did hear this.
It's until I hear that guitar, I go, it's not
the Stones that's smooth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like he didn't do those kind of solos.
Speaker 3: No, there was edgy more grit. I always said the
Stones were gritty blue.
Speaker 5: They are.
Speaker 3: Like this has got that five like if you hear
Mick all of a sudden gout.
Speaker 2: As wow, oh my god. Yeah, I've heard this a
number of times. It's this here, wet'll take We'll let
this one take us out Tennessee plays. I went to
see if I could see the F one movie because
I meant to go to the theater and see and
then I didn't get around to it. Yeah, I know, away.
Speaker 5: A boom arale you used to be.
Speaker 2: As I'm trying to tell everybody, I'm a mellower me.
Speaker 4: Now, Chris Dapleton and my wife both played Elvis's piano
at R s A or Art c A Studios in
Nashville Town. We didn't get because they they wisely asked
everybody on the bus over anybody here to play piano.
My wife raises her hand, guy goes, okay. We get
into there, and we get into the studio and they
give us the tour of all the Elvis' stuff and
the famous people who have recorded in there. And they
said that Chris Stapleton jokes that he got his career
start there because he visited there as a kid in
decided he want to be a rock star country music singer.
Speaker 1: Well, they go, okay, who is our piano player? You okay,
you want to go over and play Elvis piano? Oh
my goodness, she gets to play Elvis piano because everyone
was like.
Speaker 4: Kind of jealous that they got to, you know, And
she got up there, she had chills like she was
playing she played a Beethoven like for release or something,
and she gets up and she's got like chills.
Speaker 1: And this one lady, it's one of redneck lady. Next
for this did you rat that.
Speaker 2: She did not yeah.
Speaker 1: Chris Stapleton also played it that it's Alvis piano.
Speaker 2: Chris Stapleton.
Speaker 4: If you ever go to Nashville, man, you gotta you
gotta do the hop on, hop off, hop off to her.
Speaker 1: It's fun.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: You get to go a lot of different places in
Nashville has so much culture.
Speaker 2: I would do, uh, I would do a little party
in Nashville. Maybe take the podcast we should go, we
should do it, do a podcast podcast down the road.
I could definitely get behind that. All right, Well, ye
let me get back to that song because that it's
reminded me of other things as well in my life.
There were other things. Oh, I was going to tell
you as you're saying, uh, I'm as bad as they
used to be. So I was late to one of
my classes yesterday because I was trying to get something
to print here in the studio, and then I forget
we're in construction season.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You got to add five to ten to any community.
Speaker 2: And it's not that bad, but it's so I walk
in fifteen minutes late, and then afterwards these young girls
cannot they there's some tension I'm noticing in groups and
things and a couple of them have turned to me
and go, oh my god, you remind me of my dad.
Speaker 3: I've got that twice, now twice.
Speaker 2: So then there's this other girl goes, where's that guy?
Speaker 3: I wasn't in the class. Where's that guy? What's his name?
Now I'm hearing the second.
Speaker 1: Hand you like the Chevy Chase and community.
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 2: I totally am. They're like, where's that guy, Bob or something?
And somebody goes, oh, I mean the funny guy, because
I just one chick thinks I'm hilarious, but I don't
even know how. I don't talk really, I don't say
anything funny. I don't think. And then she goes they go.
Somebody goes, no, it's Bill.
Speaker 3: Oh, well the old guy.
Speaker 2: Where they go, A fucking old guyd Well, let me
just say something, folks, I'm as bad as I used
to be. Mother fu. That's right.
Speaker 1: Did Toby Keith used to have a song?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes he did.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 2: I'm not as good as I once was, but once
I can be as good as something like that. I'm
not as good as I used to be, but for
once I can be as good as I once Yeah. Yes,
uh for Dan Marilla who brought it tonight. His Yankees
are hopefully going to bring it as well. For Juice
feels with great picks again. Yes, yeah, dollars. I shouldn't
say that because we don't know it's in the future,
but he's been doing very well. For our friend Peter,
who looked very studious tonight wise owl in.
Speaker 3: His chair, he was bringing it tonight as well.
Speaker 4: We got a couple of weeks ago he goes, Hey,
I'm not gonna be texting during the games anymore.
Speaker 1: Sunday it's the sabbath let lasted one week.
Speaker 3: Peter had some great insight to the Buffalo Bills. I'm
Bill Moran, and I am as bad as I used
to be.