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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to what promises to be a

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very fun, very stimulating conversation because we are going to

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determine who the IMDb MVP is. I'm Jeff Johnson from

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a Film by podcast and joining the debate I've got

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I'met and Michael from the Famous and Gravy podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello, gentlemen, Hello, Hello, good to be here.

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Speaker 1: And squaring off against the Famous and Gravy podcast these

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Surely you can't be serious podcast?

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Speaker 3: Jason and d Hello, gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: Hey Jeff, how are you doing? Buddy doing great? What's

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going on?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 4: We're ready for this time to rumble.

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Speaker 5: I didn't realize it was so confrontations. I thought this

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was a Friday Brother.

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Speaker 6: Would you guys be coolf with pause and saying the

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national anthem so as you get the tears out ahead

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of time.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I think we should pause and talk about how

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did this episode come to be?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so this kind of was birthed from our show,

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Famous and Gravy. The description we've been using lately is

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life Lessons from Dead Celebrities. So on every episode, we

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choose somebody who died recently and we go through a

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series of categories and answer the question would you want

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that life? The idea is it's sort of an alt

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biography in some ways. And we did an episode a

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few months back on Bill Paxton. And when I was

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doing the research on Bill Paxton, I was going through

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his IMDb and I mean, I.

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Speaker 2: Was just like, man, movie after movie after movie.

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Speaker 6: I was like, you know, if you were on a

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desert island and you could choose one person whose IMDb

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catalog you could have the entirety of. And I made

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a case that it should be Bill Paxton, and I

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kind of wanted somebody to challenge that, and then I

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guess a little while later, we connected with the guys

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from Shirley Can't Be Serious Jason and b and I

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think something and in that conversation sparked there and You're like,

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maybe we should do an episode on this.

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Speaker 2: What's your memory of it? Jason?

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Speaker 4: That's about right.

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Speaker 7: We hooked up and we started talking about that a

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little bit, and we thought that was a great idea,

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and so here we are today.

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Speaker 1: We got an idea of what the Famous and Gravy

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podcast is all about. Now, but what's the Shirley you

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Can't Be Serious podcast all about?

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Speaker 4: We typically take two albums or movies from the eighties

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or nineties and compare those. We typically pick monolithic albums

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and movies, but sometimes we pick some stinkers and we say,

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what the heck happened? And then part of what we

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did last year was best year of the eighties, And

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that's kind of the marriage of Mike's idea and what

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we'd done in the past was taking something like this,

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taking actors and their catalog of work, and say who's

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the best?

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Speaker 1: As for myself over on a film by podcast, we

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like to discuss some of Hollywood's best directors, but specifically

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their underrated hits and what we love about them. In

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the meantime, we've had some fun with some limited series

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that both Jason Andy have been involved in in the past,

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so we got a nice little pedigree of film and

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entertainment podcasting going on here, guys, shall we begin.

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Speaker 7: Let's do this, man, Let's do it all right.

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Speaker 1: So let's go to our first category, box office and

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quantity of roles.

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Speaker 3: Jason, let's start with you. Who are you representing?

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Speaker 4: Samuel L.

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Speaker 7: Jackson, the big MF for himself and you.

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Speaker 2: Will know my name is the law. When I lay

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my vengeance upon.

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Speaker 7: The I feel kind of bad starting off with box office,

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so I'm gonna go ahead do IMDb credits first. So

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he's had one hundred and eighty IMDb credits. That's solid, right,

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that's good as far as box office numbers go.

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Speaker 4: Samuel L.

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Speaker 7: Jackson is number one for his catalog at the box office,

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and I show it somewhere around twenty eight billion dollars.

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I hate to spike the football and everybody coming out

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of the gate, but top that suckers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'll tell you for the listeners and for

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the listeners of a film by podcast, I thought, when

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I add like one little nugget, one little factoid about

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these performers, So Jason, you may be interested to know

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that Samuel Jackson happens to collect action figures, specifically only

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of figures of characters that he's played.

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Speaker 3: So I'm sure he has.

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Speaker 1: Plenty of Shaft and Frozene and Mace Windu figures, maybe

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a couple Jewels.

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Speaker 3: Winfield's in there.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm at let's talk about who you're representing

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with this first category.

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Speaker 3: Who are we talking about?

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Speaker 5: I'm representing Fred Willard. Fred Willard. The reason I'm doing

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that is. We did an episode on Fred Willard. It

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was our episode fifty nine entitled Best in Show. So

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is during that episode that I realized how prolific he

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is and how many movies he has parts in.

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Speaker 2: Regardless of the size of the part.

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Speaker 8: I can lick any rare end problem you can bring me.

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In fact, I do a lot of celebrities too. Just

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last week I reamed out Roger Moore. He was totally satisfied.

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Matter of fact, he's coming back next weekend for a

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complete rear end job.

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Speaker 5: We did a lot of research and a lot of

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work on him, and I was wowed by the breadth

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of his appearances and his IMDb.

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Speaker 2: So that's why I'm backing him.

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Speaker 1: I got to say, when I first heard this lineup,

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I heard the name Fred Willard. Excuse me, but Fred Willard.

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Then I saw his IMDb and was kind of wowed.

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You know, this guy knows what he's doing. I'm going

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to talk to us. What do we know about his

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box office and quantity of roles.

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Speaker 5: I'm tob entries is at three hundred and seventeen. That's

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versus what did you say for Samuel one eight?

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Speaker 1: I said was substantial? So Fred Willard, we've shared.

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Speaker 5: That by one hundred and thirty seven leaps and bounds. Yes,

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the actual amount of roles is over seven hundred. Many

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of those credits are for a series in which he

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appeared multiple times, and I challenge anyone to beat that.

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to go uncontested. I'll tell you

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one thing I love about Fred Willard. I'm from Ohio.

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Fred Willard grew up just north to me in a

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little city called Shaker Heights. Turns out he was doing

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that at the same time another famous actor was doing it,

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talking about Paul Newman.

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Speaker 3: So that's some pride for that neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that is huge.

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Speaker 4: Fred Willard and Paul Newman could have been on the

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same Little league team.

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Speaker 6: There's another little bit of Fred Willard trivia that I

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think really relates to your show.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm talking about? Dan Jason No

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hit me.

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Speaker 6: Originally cast as the role of striker in Airplane WHOA

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and the role he was the one who would have

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said the words surely you can't be serious. Yeah, he

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was that close and he ended up not getting that.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Wow, how about that. That's great?

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Speaker 2: And then his wife said, actually, it would have been it.

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Speaker 5: Wouldn't have been as funny, which I thought it was the.

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Speaker 2: Perfect way to deal with regress. That's love and support. Beautiful.

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Speaker 5: So you haven't hit me on box office? Do I

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even play anymore?

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Speaker 2: It is?

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Speaker 5: It just over after Jason to so I I think

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I'm at about a tenth of years a two point

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three billion in worldwide box office.

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Speaker 2: It's not bad, No, it's not bad. It's just outside

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the top thousand.

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Speaker 5: That is GDP of several countries.

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Speaker 1: He's best in Sam Jackson in roles, but he's coming

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up short on the box office.

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Speaker 3: D Welcome to the game, sir, hellolo, who are you representing?

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Speaker 4: All right? My IMDb MVP is the infamous, the amazing,

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the unparalleled, Gary Oldman, Benny, bring me everyone? What do

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you mean?

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Speaker 7: Every one?

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Speaker 4: Pausing for applause, Thank you guys.

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Speaker 9: All right.

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Speaker 4: His box office at this point is eleven billion dollars,

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which puts him in the top thirty for all of

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the actors in Hollywood. IMDb has his roles at one

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hundred and six. We talked a little bit before the

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show that that can include shorts and video games and

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music videos and such, but obviously most of these are

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major roles, mostly in movies and then some TV series.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Deean. A fun fact for those listening

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about Gary Oldman. Gary Oldman is actually a very accomplished

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musician and has often stated he would rather be a

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musician than an actor. Fun fact about him. While on

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the set of the Harry Potter films, he taught Daniel

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Radcliffe how to play bass guitar.

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Speaker 4: It's fantastic, that's cool. In my biography research on him,

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I saw that he actually gave music to pursue acting

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when he saw Malcolm McDowell's performance in The Raging Moon.

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How about that?

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Speaker 1: We got one more competing for the IMDb MVP, Michael,

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who is your choice?

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Speaker 2: Call me lazy?

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Speaker 6: I went ahead, and since this whole ideal was aspired

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from Bill Paxton, I'm arguing for Bill Paxton.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna plant my flag in the ground there.

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Speaker 6: I had expected his box office to be a little

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better than it is.

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Speaker 2: It's not bad.

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Speaker 6: It's a very respectable four billion, eight hundred million, which

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puts him somewhere around one hundred and thirty six in

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the global ranking. I had expected it to be better

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because of his association with James Cameron films, which you

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know have consistently performed extremely Well.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Man, game over, Man, game over?

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Speaker 6: What are we going to do? I guess I want

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to make the case here while we're on this category

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that money.

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Speaker 2: Is not everything. It's also about you do with those roles.

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Speaker 6: And I think that there is a per movie calculation

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worth doing here. Because Bill Paxson was in He's credited

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with about ninety nine different parts, most of those are TV.

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office movie and then divide it by the number of movies,

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and I think there might be a case there that

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the per movie gross is strong.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not sure i'm making that.

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Speaker 4: I would really feel sorry for Fred Willard if that

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Speaker 6: Each of your movies is worth about three dollars, so

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that's all you got. Yeah, So that's my case, Bill Paxon,

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I'm here to represent him.

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Speaker 1: This is a fantastic lineup of actors that we're discussing today.

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I can't wait to see how this is going to

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shake out. So let's get into another category that might

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shed a little more light on how accomplished these actors

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are talking about our second category, genre diversity. You know,

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when an actor looks at a script and he looks

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at his options, I mean he's got action, sci fi, thrillers,

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horror films, romance, westerns, dramas, comedies, sports, themed movies, action.

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Speaker 3: Adventures, mysteries.

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Speaker 1: There's so many genres and subgenres to choose from. So

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let's talk about this genre diversity of these four guys,

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starting with Samuel L. Jackson, Jason.

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Speaker 7: All right, Samuel L. Jackson's diversity I think is excellent.

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So you want action movies, We've got Diehard three. We've

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got Patriot Games. We've got The Long Kiss good Night.

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We've got the Kingsman movies. You want westerns, We've got

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Django and Chain. We've got The Hateful Eight. You want romance,

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Speaker 4: Sci Fi?

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Speaker 7: We've got Sphear Jumper, all the Star Wars prequels, The

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Speaker 4: We've got fourteen and oh eight.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if you could count Deep Blue Sea

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thrillers We've got, of course, Jackie Brown, pulp fiction, See

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of Love. You know, crime movies, you got dru Romance,

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Good Fellas, Juice, Shaft comedies, I mean Coming to America,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you've got to do the right thing.

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Speaker 7: One of the best movies of nineteen eighty nine, which

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I spiked the football on on our previous episode, Menace

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to Society, Time to Kill the John Grisham thriller so good.

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You want family movies, You've got The Incredibles, which I

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said was the best movie since the year two thousand.

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Speaker 4: I love that movie. Adventure. We have snakes on a plane.

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We've got Jurassic Park.

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all the Marvel movies, the MCU, You've got the Kong

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you know, the Monster Universe there with the King Kong movies,

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Captain America, Iron Man, Avengers, Spider Man, and then of

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course you've got the Unbreakable movies. He's got it all covered,

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except maybe the musical or maybe a mystery.

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Speaker 4: He's covered it all.

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Speaker 7: Guys. I don't know how gonna how you guys going

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to do, but there you go.

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Speaker 6: But quality is factoring into some of this, right, These

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are like not unnecessarily good movies.

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Speaker 7: Well, we're talking genre diversity.

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Speaker 3: We're not gonna hold up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this category included.

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Speaker 4: Both quality and diversity, not just diversities. So talk about

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the quality, my friend, where are we at with us?

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Speaker 7: You want quality? Yeah, Jurassic Park, how's that? How about

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pulled fiction? How about Coming to Them? How about The

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Incredibles do the right Thing out of Sight? Those are

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all great movies.

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Speaker 4: I noticed that you didn't say the Clone Wars or

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Snakes on a Plane when we got into quality. I

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wonder that happened.

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Speaker 6: I just want to talk about what an MVP is exactly,

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somebody who performs consistently at a level of high excellence.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm let's talk Fred Willard here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna ask you to think about genre in

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a different way here. So let's let's just talk about Brett.

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sixties up and through year of death, which is twenty two.

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So if we're going to really count that, that's going

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to be seven different decades. I'm not that concerned about

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genre as you talk about it. Between horror, family action,

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that's futile.

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Speaker 2: I am on a desert island.

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Speaker 5: The last thing I want to do is be reminded

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of horror, action adventure people in peril. I just want

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to smile, laugh, giggle, and have a little hope. Your

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diversities and genres you can keep them. I'm just not

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interested in playing that contest. We do win comedy outright,

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and what we have is subgenres within comedy, family friendly.

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We have Pixar with Wally. We have rock and roll,

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which might be music. Jason said, hey, lacked a musical,

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we have one in spinal Tap. Then we can take

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another musical and waiting for Gufman. We can take action

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adventure in Austin, Powers to the Spy Who Shagged Me?

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Traditional comedy. In American wedding, you can get action adventure, mystery,

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Harold and Kumar go to White Castle. We have media

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and journalism in the Anchorman.

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Speaker 2: The journalism genre, the journalism genre.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so we really really dominate the subcategories. We're only

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concerned with the lighthearted and comedy, but we got it

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all underneath there.

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Speaker 3: I'm at your debate.

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Speaker 1: There was built upon extremely thin ice, but you, sir,

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are very light on your feet.

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Speaker 3: So my compliments to you.

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Speaker 7: He didn't even mention maybe the sweetest movie of the

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nineteen eighties Roxanne rox Anne.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, it is there. He played the mayor in Roxanne.

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Speaker 8: I would like to say that I would rather be

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with the people of this town then with the finest

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people in the world.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I thought Jason was going to drop a different nineteen

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eighties film on us, but I will reserve that title

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because I want to see where Ahmed takes it. So,

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d let's discuss the quality and genre diversity of Gary Oben.

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Speaker 4: So this category, we're talking about the quality of the movies,

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and that's a difficult thing. I mean, everything is subjective,

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but they do at least give us some ammunition. When

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we look at IMDb, and if you look at IMDb,

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Dary Oldman has forty five movies that rank seven point

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zero or higher. Those that rank lower than five, he

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only has eight. And I can't think that he's responsible

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for that on any of those eight movies out of

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his one hundred and six. Now, if you want to

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talk about his diversity, I think that he unquestionably wins

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this category. He's got family movies, he's got fantasy movies,

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he's got horror, he's got music, he's got thrillers. He's

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got fifteen talk show movies. He's got two musicals which

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beat Samuel Jackson. And he's even got a game show movie.

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Let's talk action adventure. You've got Dark Knight Trilogy. Let's

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talk fantasy. You've got the Harry Potter movies. Let's talk animation.

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He has got Kung Fu Panda, he has got quests

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for Camelot. He's even got in video games Call of Duty.

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He has had thirty eight comedy movies. I could not

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find where he was in any of them with Fred

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Willard don't.

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Speaker 2: I can't think of it.

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Speaker 4: He's got thirty eight comedy movies. And that is just

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naming a few of the multiple categories he's in. I

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didn't even bring up history, which he's been OSCAR nominated for.

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Speaker 1: And one I will say, you know anyone that can

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play Sid Vicious, Dracula, Winston Churchill and a low life pimp, you.

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Speaker 7: Have to see more?

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Speaker 2: You got?

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Speaker 7: You got everything here from a Jo Danano.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that that person exists.

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Speaker 1: So Michael, let's talk about Bill Paxton and his genre

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diversity and the quality of roles he's had.

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Speaker 6: Before I begin I think it's important to call out

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what we're actually doing.

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Speaker 2: We are sitting on a desert island.

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Speaker 6: I'm picturing something from like a far side cartoon where

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there's a little bit of sand, a palm tree, and

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a DVD player with a screen, and that's about it, right,

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And so what we want here is to kill time,

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and to me that speaks to rewatchability.

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Speaker 2: It also means that.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to be fatigued by seeing the same

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face over and over, even though obviously whatever catalog you

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choose here, we're going to be seeing this person again

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and again.

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Speaker 2: But there's a question.

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Speaker 6: About one whether or not they are dominating the screen,

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and whether or not you just get tired of seeing

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their face over and over. And there's a question about

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how many times can I just watch this movie just

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sometimes on in the background, Sometimes I'm locked in on it.

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Sometimes I'm just listening to the soundtrack. If that is

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the thought experiment we're having, I think Bill Paxton is

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a slam dunk. If Jason won the first category with

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the box office smash, Bill Paxton has it all. And

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not only does he have it all, he has excellence

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with it all. So if you want action and adventure,

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you've got Predator to Twister, Commando, Navy Seals. If you

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want science fiction, I mean Terminator and Aliens. If we're

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going after horror, there are a ton of cult classics.

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Near Dark, there's a Tales from the Crypt episode. If

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you're looking for a thriller, you have a simple plan.

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If you want romance, and let's not forget again, we're

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on a desert island staring at the ocean, you have Titanic.

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What more could you want than an island? If you're

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watching Titanic, If you want westerns, you've got Tombstone. If

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you want drama, you've got Apollo thirteen, Next of Ken.

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And if you're after comedy, weird science stripes and club

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dread sports, we have Million Dollar arm And for family friendly,

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there is Mighty Joe Young and maybe Big Love is

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family friendly. It's not family friendly, but it's at least

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family oriented. I could watch all of these movies over

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and over again. And sometimes Bill Paxton is front and

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center and he's munching up the screen and totally chewing

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it up. Other Times he's kind of hanging in the

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background and he's giving other people the stage and elevating

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the experience. If you are on a desert island killing time,

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waiting for the rescue, then what you really want is

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to escape.

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Speaker 2: You want to be taken somewhere else.

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Speaker 6: All of these movies transport you back in time, into

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outer space, way into outer space.

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Speaker 2: Anywhere you want to go, you get to go with

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Bill Paxton.

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Speaker 3: You know, you gave me a different way to look

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at this category.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well, maybe I don't want to watch Bill Paxton,

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but I do want to see a great Arnold film,

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and maybe I want to watch Command, or maybe I

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just want to hear, you know, just some background music

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and a you know, I want to put Twister on

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because it's got a great soundtrack. So I'm looking at

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this category a little bit differently now, And uh, that's

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because of your argument for Bill Paxton.

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Speaker 3: So thank you for that. You're welcome, gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on to a category that I absolutely always

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have a lot of fun with. This category is called

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wild card. This is your opportunity to talk anything you

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want about your MVP candidate's background, filmography, whatever it could be.

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Anything goes here. Jason shaum Hout's done with mister Samuel L.

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Jackson for my wild card.

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Speaker 7: I'm just going to pull out a few things that

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I think add a little bit to the name Samuel L.

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Speaker 4: Jackson. Okay, now we know that he is one.

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Speaker 7: Of the actors who is known for weaving the tapestry

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of obscenities throughout his movies.

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Speaker 2: Right with these monif snakes on this monif why it

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looked like a couple of dorks.

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Speaker 4: Ha your clothes, mother, How does it work? You know

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how to shoot a gun? Look, all brothers don't know

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how to shoot guns.

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Speaker 2: You're racist, mother. It didn't work, but I.

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Speaker 7: Was still alive, mondal But actually, come to find out,

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he is only sworn on screen three hundred and one times,

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which sounds like a lot, except that's only six point

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nine times for every thousand words. It surprised me to

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find out that both Jonahill and Leonardo DiCaprio rank much

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higher on the swear words than that. But he is

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the guy who made the big MF or bomb cool

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to say, right, and in fact, it is an anchor

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word for when he was a young man, he used

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swearing as a stop to his stutter. So when he

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was a young boy, he had a hard stutter. He

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actually had an aunt who lived in the house with him,

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who was a school teacher and actually in charge of

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the performing arts at her school, and so from a

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young age he would be pulled into these plays. You know,

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he's three, four or five years old, but that's okay,

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we need a little kid for our play. We had

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a bad stutter, and the way he combatd that was

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learned to swear, So I thought that was pretty interesting.

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The other thing I wanted to bring up that I

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had no idea about. He was a stand in for

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Bill Cosby on The Cosby Show. So he stood there

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in these colorful sweaters as like, you know the guy

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who you know you see Bill Cosby's back, but you

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know Bill Cosby is having a coke in the other room.

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Speaker 4: So that was Samuel L. Jackson.

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Speaker 7: But the main thing I wanted to bring up, though,

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is the franchises that this guy is associated with. Okay,

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I just don't know how any actor I've ever heard

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of could be involved in so many successful franchises. He

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is involved in the Star Wars Universe, the MCU, the Incredibles,

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the Triple X franchise, the Monster Verse. Shaft is now

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a franchise. He's involved in the Jurassic Park franchise, the

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Kingsman franchise. Unbreakable is now a franchise, the Redo of

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RoboCop and die Hard.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 7: He's also the coolest guy in the Star Wars universe

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because he's the only dude who has a purple lightsaber.

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And on a personal level, this dude was an usher

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at Martin Luther King's funeral. The dude is the coolest

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guy in Hollywood. I'm spiking the football. The cool factor

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is off the chart.

474
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Speaker 1: A wild card that promotes the use of profanity to

475
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:51,759
cure speech impediments. Mother, I'm at let's discuss Fred Willard's

476
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:52,519
wild card.

477
00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:55,599
Speaker 5: All right, I'm gonna start with my favorite and the

478
00:24:55,599 --> 00:24:59,920
big one. He was and is the only human act

479
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,240
to have appeared in a Pixar movie when he appeared

480
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,920
in Wally in two thousand and seven.

481
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,559
Speaker 2: Whooh, that's right. In his obituary.

482
00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 5: You know, on our show we deconstruct the first line

483
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,759
of an obituary and rank it. They use the word

484
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,079
scene stealer in the first line of his obituary. So

485
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,519
in these three hundred and seventeen credits, that we have

486
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,680
this very large stacks of DVDs on our desert island.

487
00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:26,440
We know that we can wait for the Fred Willard

488
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:31,519
moment in each movie and see the scene being stolen away.

489
00:25:31,839 --> 00:25:35,680
So there's a bit of a hunt and anticipation in

490
00:25:35,759 --> 00:25:38,799
each of these movies in the watching experience, and that

491
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,519
in alone, I think is entertainment on top of entertainment. Secondly,

492
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,680
the style of acting that Fred Willard really really made

493
00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:52,400
famous was this improvisational comedy that Christopher Guest is best

494
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,880
known for in Fred Willard being his top lieutenant in it.

495
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,680
So we saw that in Spinal Tap waiting for Guffman,

496
00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:02,559
Best in Show Mighty Wind Mascots that was actually a

497
00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:06,680
little known that tactic was used in Anchorman, and Fred Willard,

498
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,359
playing the station manager in Anchorman was kind of a

499
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,039
coach on set to everyone on how to just kind

500
00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:15,279
of go with the flow and improfit your comedic lines.

501
00:26:16,039 --> 00:26:19,599
And lastly, I think, compared to the other three candidates here,

502
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,720
Fred Willard has an extensive catalog of TV appearances. So

503
00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:27,359
not only do we get these movies, but if we

504
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,920
are sitting on our desert island, we will get not

505
00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:34,000
only the entirety of Everybody Loves Raymond, but also Modern Family,

506
00:26:34,599 --> 00:26:37,480
Bold and the Beautiful Huge Wildcard. He actually won a

507
00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:40,599
Daytime Emmy for it. You'll also get I Think You

508
00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:43,240
Should Leave. You'll get Drunk History. You'll get Saturday Night Live,

509
00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:47,559
which he hosted in nineteen seventy nine. You'll get Family Guy,

510
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,440
You'll get Roseanne, you'll get the Simpsons, You'll get The

511
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,000
Love Boat, Fame, Golden Girls. There's pretty much not a

512
00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:58,480
sitcom you can name around the eighties or nineties that

513
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,559
he did not have an appearance in.

514
00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 7: He just laid down the Ace, the Love Boat series, Yes.

515
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:05,599
Speaker 2: And Thinking of the Ace.

516
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,319
Speaker 5: The Ace Trucking Company was Fred Willard's improv troop, which

517
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,680
made over fifty appearances on The Tie show Not Right

518
00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:12,519
It impressively.

519
00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:15,759
Speaker 1: De always holds his cards close to his chest. Do

520
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,960
are you ready to play a wild card on behalf

521
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:19,640
of Gary Olben?

522
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 4: Yes, Moderator, I believe this is where I pull ahead

523
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,160
of the pack and leave everyone else behind. I could

524
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,799
not have asked for a better setup than Mike gave

525
00:27:31,079 --> 00:27:35,519
in our last category. You didn't want a leading man

526
00:27:35,839 --> 00:27:39,599
as your actor because you'd get tired of seeing that

527
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,400
same guy over and over. Again. Tom Hanks has a

528
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,240
lot of great movies. He is a great actor. But

529
00:27:45,319 --> 00:27:47,880
if you've got the rest of your life with only

530
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,759
watching Tom Hanks movies, you're going to get tired of him. Right,

531
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,359
So I want you to think about something for just

532
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,359
a second. Think about Fred Willard's voice. You got it.

533
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 8: Let's start right out, Hey what happened? As you know

534
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,400
back in nineteen sooner I start on a series called

535
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:06,799
Hey what happened?

536
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:12,279
Speaker 4: Okay? Think about Samuel Jackson's voice. It probably is a profanity.

537
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: Right well, I'm a mushroom cloud land mother.

538
00:28:16,079 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 7: Every time my fingers touched brain, I'm super flatty and tea.

539
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 4: Even Bill Paxton, whether he's an IRP brother or whether

540
00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:25,680
he's chet, think about his voice.

541
00:28:25,599 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 9: Coconut, Pete Pia, the secret ingredient coconut.

542
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:37,039
Speaker 4: Now, think about Gary Oldman's voice. Because he knew deep done.

543
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,599
Speaker 2: It was your law.

544
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,279
Speaker 4: Can you even tell me what country he's from?

545
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,079
Speaker 2: A man could not live with himself and it would

546
00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:49,559
be such bit politics.

547
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 4: Can you tell me where he was born?

548
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,359
Speaker 2: I was a Christian.

549
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:59,519
Speaker 4: Camp my father founded for poor, unfortunate cast off little

550
00:28:59,559 --> 00:29:02,319
boys and girls who would do it any thing for

551
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,640
a candy Bar. No, you can't, because his voice is

552
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,880
different in everything he's in. He is a leading man

553
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,640
in several of these movies, but it doesn't matter because

554
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,200
he's a different human being in every single one of

555
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,720
these movies. His range is incomparable to anyone else. He

556
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:25,000
is an outlier with his ability not to act, but

557
00:29:25,119 --> 00:29:30,559
to seemingly medium channel other human beings and become them.

558
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,920
There's a meme out there that says, if suddenly you

559
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,319
were walking along and somebody yelled cut, and all of

560
00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:41,240
a sudden you realize that you were actually Gary Oldman

561
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,000
being played in a movie, you wouldn't be surprised. Okay,

562
00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:49,720
let me throw this out at you. Okay. He goes

563
00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:54,960
from playing a New York gangster to a Shakespearean comic knave,

564
00:29:55,359 --> 00:30:00,920
to Lee Harvey Oswald, to a Transylvanian count, to a dreadlocked,

565
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,480
ubonic speaking pimp, to an American drug addled cop to

566
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,440
a nineteenth century German composer, and that is only nineteen

567
00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:16,119
ninety to nineteen ninety four, all of them fantastic movies.

568
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,720
He's played an ape, he's played a peacock. There is

569
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,839
nothing that this man can't do. And so even though

570
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,039
he might be a leading man sometimes and he might

571
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:29,599
be a very simple bit part guy some of the

572
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,200
time as well, he is always going to give you

573
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,759
something fresh. There is nothing that is repetitive about him

574
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,240
or his movies.

575
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,519
Speaker 1: Michael, that's gonna be a tough fact to follow. Are

576
00:30:43,559 --> 00:30:46,200
you ready to play the Bill Paxton wild card?

577
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 6: I do think that there are some very compelling reasons

578
00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:53,559
to elevate Bill Paxson. First, I think a little trivia here,

579
00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:56,799
just because this communicates how fun he is.

580
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: And I actually have Jason to thank for this little factoid.

581
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 6: Bill Paxton is the only actor of all time who

582
00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:08,640
was killed by both a terminator, an alien and a predator.

583
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:11,480
That tells you something about what he's up against. That

584
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:14,440
he's willing to go to the far reaches of space

585
00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:18,559
and the most dangerous machines of all time, not to

586
00:31:18,599 --> 00:31:19,519
mention whatever.

587
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:22,799
Speaker 2: The other third thing is lust the thread.

588
00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:26,279
Speaker 1: There Okay, the hottest day on record in Los Angeles.

589
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:30,519
Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you, thank you. Something else that should

590
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,519
be brought up about Bill Paxton. This has very little

591
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:38,599
to do with his movies, but it's important. He saw JFK.

592
00:31:39,119 --> 00:31:42,599
Not the movie, but the Man. On November twenty second,

593
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,839
nineteen sixty three, as the motorcade was passing through Fort Worth.

594
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,480
There is a picture of a young Bill Paxton up

595
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,079
on his father's shoulders, looking at the President, hours.

596
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,839
Speaker 2: Before he was assassinated in Dallas.

597
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,079
Speaker 6: Anybody who intersects with history in that kind of way

598
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,039
is walking around with the gift, is walking around with

599
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,119
something special that he carries with him everywhere he goes,

600
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,119
including onto movie sets. And that brings me to the

601
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,960
last point. I want to make a wild card brought

602
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:14,920
up the obituary a moment ago. There was a word

603
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,000
used in Bill Paxton's obituary that I want to draw

604
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,559
attention to, and that word was affable. You talk about

605
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:25,279
Fred Willard on a desert island being somebody who brings

606
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,599
joy and humored, that's great. I think affability is a

607
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,319
more important quality. Affability relates to who you're hanging out

608
00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:35,759
with and how much you want to hang out with him. Yes,

609
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,440
I am impressed by Gary Oldman. He brings an intensity

610
00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:41,880
to who he is and there is not a role

611
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,720
he plays where he doesn't disappear into him. But I'm

612
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,640
not on this desert island to celebrate one man. I'm

613
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,680
on this desert island to celebrate a rich catalog, and

614
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:55,720
sometimes that means that it's not just one person, but

615
00:32:56,079 --> 00:32:58,720
the entire cast and the entire experience of a movie.

616
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,440
I need somebody who's here to bring every movie to

617
00:33:03,559 --> 00:33:06,960
a place of transportation and vicarious experience.

618
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:08,799
Speaker 2: So that's my wild College Mike.

619
00:33:08,839 --> 00:33:12,119
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, if there's one word that defines

620
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,519
you in the wild card round, I would say passionate.

621
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,400
That was a very well given speech there, guys. We've

622
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,519
already name dropped several incredible titles that these actors are

623
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:24,200
a part of.

624
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,759
Speaker 3: But this next.

625
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: Category, here's where you need to come out swinging guns

626
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,319
of blazon because we're going to do top five. Jason,

627
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:38,039
I want to hear your top five performances for Samuel L.

628
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 4: Jackson.

629
00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:40,799
Speaker 7: I don't know if these are top five performances. I'm

630
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:43,960
going to say these are his top five movies.

631
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:46,079
Speaker 4: Go in toe to toe with you, guys.

632
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,599
Speaker 7: So my first draft pick is going to be D's

633
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,440
all time favorite movie from the nineties.

634
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 4: That's pulp fiction. You know what they call a quarter

635
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:54,839
poundal with cheese in France?

636
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:59,039
Speaker 2: No, right, yeah, with cheese. You know why they call

637
00:33:59,079 --> 00:33:59,279
it that?

638
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,599
Speaker 4: Because of the metric system. Check out the Big Brain

639
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,319
on bread.

640
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,039
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with maybe the greatest family movie of

641
00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:13,760
the nineties, Jurassic Park. Kids absolutely love this movie.

642
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 4: I loved it, everybody loved it. It's fantastic movie.

643
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 7: Then I'm gonna pull out Avengers Endgame. You get anybody

644
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,239
below the age of twenty, it's maybe the greatest movie

645
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,360
they've ever seen. Then for me in the family genre again,

646
00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:32,280
the Incredibles. I think it's the best movie since the

647
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,760
year two thousand. It's absolutely fantastic. And then lastly I'll

648
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,519
throw out Do the Right Thing by Spike Lee, a

649
00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:43,639
great movie from nineteen eighty nine, showing his diversity. It's

650
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:49,440
not all just laser beams and dinosaurs. He actually has enjoyable,

651
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,800
you know, socially conscious movies as well. So that is

652
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,000
my Samuel L. Jackson top five.

653
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 3: Excellent, top five.

654
00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:01,039
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, I've been looking for this category

655
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,599
just so I could talk to ameit. You have, okay, omit,

656
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,639
let's hear your choices for Fred Willard's top five.

657
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 5: Number one best in show from the year two thousand.

658
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,639
Fred Willard played one of the hosts of the Dog

659
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:20,800
Show and absolutely stole the movie. The cast of that movie. Overall,

660
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:24,840
it is incredibly rewatchable. Writing exactly on those coattails. But

661
00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:29,760
sixteen years prior, spinal Tap still watched regularly. I believe

662
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,360
there is a sequel in the making. Yeah, correct, right now,

663
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,719
So here we are, god what, forty years after the

664
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,880
movie and still feels contemporary.

665
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 2: Number three I referenced earlier.

666
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,199
Speaker 5: I will go with Wally given his significance in the

667
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,360
role and with Pixar. That was also a movie that

668
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:49,000
grossed five hundred and thirty million worldwide, So if we're

669
00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:51,599
looking at Fred Willard's two point three billion or you've

670
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:56,639
almost got twenty percent of it right there. Number four,

671
00:35:57,079 --> 00:35:58,760
I will go Harold and Kumar go.

672
00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: To White Castle.

673
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 5: And that is is a personal choice because that was

674
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,880
one of the first movies with a cool Indian protagonist.

675
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,039
Speaker 2: So a big eyepie for my people.

676
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 5: And number five I just don't think we can discount

677
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,400
because it's arguably the biggest comedy of this millennium would

678
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,119
be Anchorman, all right.

679
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 4: I would throw in waiting for Gufman on my list.

680
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,559
I don't know who I'd not. Waiting for Gufman is

681
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:24,880
my favorite of all of Fred Willard's movies.

682
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would not disagree with you had I. I

683
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,639
was going for variety in my top five picks, and

684
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,199
since I sled with best and Show, that's the only

685
00:36:33,199 --> 00:36:34,920
reason why I didn't bring in Waiting for Gutman. But

686
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,519
I could have easily substituted it completely agreed.

687
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 4: Brilliant in all respects.

688
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 7: I mean, you don't realize this, but you're sitting in

689
00:36:41,559 --> 00:36:46,559
a podcast room with two of the biggest fans of

690
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:49,840
a Fred Willard movie that there may not be anybody

691
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,760
else in the entire country as big as fans as

692
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:52,280
there are.

693
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,039
Speaker 2: Can I guess it?

694
00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 4: Sure?

695
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,159
Speaker 5: Moving violations? Yes, yes, I gotta say I was.

696
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,199
Speaker 1: I was conflicted here because I wanted so desperate to

697
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,239
hear moving violations on your list. But with the choices

698
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,480
that you made, where do you put moving violations among

699
00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:09,079
those films?

700
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:11,679
Speaker 8: So as for me, everyone calls me, Doc, stop by

701
00:37:11,679 --> 00:37:12,599
the clinic anytime.

702
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 4: Excuse me.

703
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,599
Speaker 8: You have a clinic, not just a clinic. The clinic.

704
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,880
We do the finest diagnostic check ups in town.

705
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 4: Doc Williams at your service.

706
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 3: D This couldn't be easy for you. For Gary Oldman,

707
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:26,719
what are your top five choices.

708
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 4: It's the understatement of the year to say that it

709
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:31,719
was not easy to bring this down to only five.

710
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,079
He's won an Academy Award. I didn't see that movie,

711
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:37,320
so I didn't pick it. He's won a Golden Globe,

712
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,760
but I didn't see that movie either, so I didn't

713
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,559
pick that one. He's won three British Academy Film Awards,

714
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,159
and he's been nominated for two other Oscars, and he's

715
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,920
been nominated for an Emmy. But I didn't pick that

716
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,480
one because it was just a couple of episodes of Friends.

717
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,199
I picked the movies that I like. It's my personal

718
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,360
top five. It probably will be different than anybody else's

719
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,199
top five, but I'm gonna go Number five Leon the Professional,

720
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:10,679
Number four Oppenheimer where he plays the President Truman. Number

721
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,199
three True Romance, because it is the role I went.

722
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:19,960
This is the same guy. I'm ste a mystery to you?

723
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:22,920
Did I actual if you want some dinner and you're

724
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,239
going to everyone started trying down in cinemaself this moment.

725
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 7: He's caming on like you and got a carovin the

726
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,079
Wold and who knows.

727
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 4: Number two Immortal Beloved. Because I'm a huge classical music fan.

728
00:38:33,159 --> 00:38:35,519
I think it's one of the most underrated movies of

729
00:38:35,559 --> 00:38:40,079
the nineties. Great mystery, great music, and obviously great performance.

730
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,599
Number one pick for the Gary Oldman movie. It was

731
00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:46,039
my number one pick for all of the movies of

732
00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:49,440
the twentieth century, and that's Dark Knight, No Dracula. It's

733
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,400
it's fantastic. But I mean, dude, there's a million movies

734
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,559
that he could that I could pick.

735
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,039
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, a lot of Dracula talk on this podcast.

736
00:38:57,119 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 3: I didn't expect that.

737
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: Michael, let's talk about Bill Paxton's top five.

738
00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 2: All right, let me win this thing.

739
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 6: So I think the thing that has to really be

740
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,639
elevated again here and that has to be called out

741
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,719
is the word rewatchability that's come up a few times.

742
00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:17,519
We are absolutely talking about some of my favorite performances

743
00:39:17,519 --> 00:39:20,960
with Gary Oldman and definitely some of the most funny

744
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,960
movies in the Fred Willard catalog and everything that came

745
00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:24,719
up with Samuel L.

746
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,599
Speaker 2: Jackson is I think.

747
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 6: Competes with rewatchability, but not quite this list. So number

748
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,960
five I struggled here, but I wanted to get a

749
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,719
little sentimental. I'm gonna put Titanic I'm ready to get sentimental.

750
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,639
I'm ready to get weepy. And look, man, you put

751
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:43,159
that movie on and the and the right moment, and

752
00:39:43,199 --> 00:39:45,199
I can get caught up in it. I've always had

753
00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:47,840
a thing for Kate Winslett. I think the set design

754
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,159
is extraordinary. I feel like I'm back in the early

755
00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:54,440
twentieth century. And I guess, on the subject of rewatchability,

756
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,480
one thing about Bill Paxton movies is you often know

757
00:39:57,639 --> 00:40:00,679
the outcome. We know the ship's gonna sink, yet we

758
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,920
watch it anyway, and in fact, we rewatch it anyway.

759
00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:06,000
And that, I think, to me is what this Desert

760
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,599
Island thought experiment is all about.

761
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,639
Speaker 4: Mike, you and Jason really need to hang out?

762
00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: We do, Yeah, what are we doing here?

763
00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:13,039
Speaker 7: I love Titanic, man, I think is.

764
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: The best movie of the ninety He is a great movie.

765
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I'm a sucker for a certain kind of romance.

766
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,199
Speaker 2: All right, Number four, I'm going to go Apollo thirteen.

767
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,199
Speaker 6: I think that the Apollo thirteen captures the wonder of space.

768
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 2: It's got a high drama.

769
00:40:28,159 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 6: I think that there's a celebration of a moment in history,

770
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,920
and I think, to just imagine yourself traveling literally around

771
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,360
the dark side of the moon is the kind of

772
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,280
thing that you can connect with if you're on a

773
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,840
desert island, because you too feel alienated, you too feel

774
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,440
like you're at the ends of the world. Number three,

775
00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:49,599
I need something that is both fun but also high stakes.

776
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:51,639
Speaker 2: I'm going Terminator the original.

777
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,159
Speaker 6: I think that the way it puts me back in

778
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,639
nineteen eighty four, like those special effects, while sometimes feeling dated,

779
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,880
actually have and electricity to them, and I think that's

780
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,039
arguably Arnold's greatest role.

781
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: Number two.

782
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,079
Speaker 6: I want to go back to the Old West with Tombstone,

783
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,320
mostly because of the Val Kilmer doc holiday performance, but

784
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,480
I want to be taken back to the Old West

785
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,199
and a great shootout. And Number one for me is

786
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,639
pretty obvious maybe but Aliens. I can watch Aliens over

787
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,840
and over and over again. I think the set design

788
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,920
of all these movies, and I keep coming back to

789
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,199
this idea, take me somewhere else. I'm on a desert island.

790
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,360
I don't want to be. I want to be anywhere else.

791
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:34,320
The range of environments and settings that we get to

792
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,159
go to with these five bill packs and movies are

793
00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:38,880
what I need on this Desert Island.

794
00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:42,079
Speaker 1: I got to say, if physical media did not exist

795
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:47,199
and cable providers provided the all aliens, all the time channel,

796
00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:48,599
I would subscribe.

797
00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:52,079
Speaker 4: That's all I need, It's all I need, absolutely filled

798
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:52,880
with Cameron love.

799
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:53,639
Speaker 3: Right, I love?

800
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 4: I love James Cameron y.

801
00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: Speaking of love, let's talk about I don't.

802
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 3: Call if it was Jim Caviezel or Willem Defoe who

803
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,119
once said.

804
00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 4: Who has neverous sinned?

805
00:42:03,039 --> 00:42:09,519
Speaker 1: Who whoever that is, come up here and tell these

806
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,800
if we're casting stones for sins, we're all gonna be

807
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:12,400
hurt real quick.

808
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: But these guys have sinned before.

809
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,199
Speaker 1: So let's move to our next category, another hold over,

810
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:23,480
another favorite one, cinematic sins. So, for those of you

811
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:26,719
that are unaware what the cinematic sins category is all about,

812
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,280
this is the opportunity for three others to gnash their

813
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:34,320
teeth and call out the cinematic sins of the fourth

814
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:39,400
pick for MVP. So Jason prepared to get stoned because

815
00:42:40,039 --> 00:42:43,559
I'm going to talk to these guys about Samuel L.

816
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:49,599
Jackson's cinematic sins. I'm at cast the first stone, Sir Alan.

817
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,599
Speaker 5: It's got to be snakes on a plane. I don't

818
00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:51,199
don't have to look.

819
00:42:51,159 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: Up shooting from the hip. Yes, I saw the trailer.

820
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,519
Speaker 5: I didn't need to see the movie, right.

821
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:02,519
Speaker 2: I think America felt the same.

822
00:43:02,639 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 7: Yes, I have no defense on that one. I can't

823
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:07,519
say anything. I cannot defend that one.

824
00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: Cannot defend that one. D take your best shot.

825
00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 4: I make a concerted effort not to watch bad movies,

826
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:18,599
and so this was the hardest category for me. Like I,

827
00:43:18,599 --> 00:43:20,280
if I've seen a movie that you guys in, I

828
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,239
probably liked it. But I did see the Clone Wars.

829
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,039
Speaker 7: Yeah, are you fantom menacing.

830
00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 4: Me right now? The phantomism? Those are three of those

831
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:35,360
movies are menacing. I also haven't seen the Marvels, and

832
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,480
I never planned to, but it would be number three

833
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:38,000
on my list.

834
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 7: I'm getting like a quadruper shot.

835
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,159
Speaker 3: I have seen it.

836
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 4: I won't call it that one. My pick is Clone

837
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,440
Wars because I've seen it and I will never watch

838
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:45,880
it again.

839
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,079
Speaker 7: Remember, Oben one, if the prophecy is true, your apprentice

840
00:43:50,159 --> 00:43:51,719
is the only one who can bring the force back

841
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:52,360
into balance.

842
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:53,559
Speaker 3: How about it, Michael?

843
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 2: The problem with Samuel L.

844
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,519
Speaker 6: Jackson on a desert island is decision fatigue. Yes, there

845
00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:02,559
are some in here we can pluck out true romance

846
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:03,760
or pulp fiction.

847
00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: But my god, do you have to sort through an unbelievable.

848
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 6: Amount of craft before you get to anything good. So

849
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,079
maybe that is my dick. I'll go Farce of the Penguins.

850
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,599
I never saw it. I assume they're making fun of

851
00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:19,639
March of the Penguins, and Samuel L. Jackson was the narrator,

852
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,000
so that is the stone I shall casp.

853
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:27,599
Speaker 1: Sir Jason, any last comment about defending Samuel Jackson's cinematic sins.

854
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:30,039
Speaker 7: I can't really defend myself on any of those, but

855
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:33,559
I will say that this summer we're going to take

856
00:44:33,559 --> 00:44:36,119
a deep dive on our What the Heck Happens series,

857
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,760
where we're going to break down and discuss the Phantom

858
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,960
Menace versus Star Trek the motion picture, and ask the question,

859
00:44:43,519 --> 00:44:44,440
what the heck happened?

860
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 4: Otherwise I have no defense.

861
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,679
Speaker 1: All right, well, Jason rests, it's amets turn. Let's talk

862
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,679
Fred Willard's cinematic sins.

863
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 4: One of the nice things that I figured out from

864
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,239
doing this episode is that on the IMDb app can

865
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,400
actually sort all of the movies of a particular performer

866
00:45:05,079 --> 00:45:09,280
by IMDb ranking, And here's what I figured out about

867
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,440
Fred Willard. When someone says do you want to be

868
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,239
in a movie? He does not say no, Yeah, that

869
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:15,599
was him.

870
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 2: He was a yes guy.

871
00:45:16,639 --> 00:45:23,599
Speaker 4: So on his IMDb credits list, he has a movie

872
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,239
that ranks less than a two point zero. But I'm

873
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,320
not picking that movie because just a couple above that

874
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,239
one is the movie Christmas Vacation to Cousin Eddie's Island.

875
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,519
Not only is it a horrible movie, but it's an

876
00:45:38,519 --> 00:45:42,199
affront to the whole series. And so for that reason,

877
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,039
it has to be Fred Willard's biggest cinematic sin.

878
00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:49,199
Speaker 1: I meant anything to say, I mean, I'm glad Eddie

879
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:54,840
got an island to be well in that case, Michael,

880
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,880
what is your choice for Fred Willard's cinematic sin.

881
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 6: I'm running into the same damn problem. The fact that

882
00:46:03,639 --> 00:46:06,880
he basically said yes is nice. You need the job,

883
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,199
you got to take the work, but have some I

884
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,000
don't know, sense of taste and some dignity. Sometimes it's

885
00:46:12,039 --> 00:46:15,320
really okay to say that's not for me. I'll go

886
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,039
ahead and choose Reanimated, which is a TV movie from

887
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:20,880
two thousand and six that got a star of two

888
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:21,320
point eight.

889
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: I've never heard of it before.

890
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 6: I've hut it up, but it's representative of the overall

891
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:27,639
decision process for Fred Willard.

892
00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:30,519
Speaker 1: I'm afraid ouch, I'm at silent. I guess we move

893
00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:32,920
on to Jason to continue the pylon here.

894
00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 7: I'm just going to jump on Michael's cattails here and

895
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,840
just say yes, he's got a great voice and so

896
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,199
working as a voice actor, you get drug in some

897
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,119
bad projects.

898
00:46:42,159 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 4: But for me, I mean, I don't even have to

899
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,400
watch this movie, The Pooch and the Popper.

900
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:49,199
Speaker 7: I feel as a father, that's one that I would

901
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,079
have been in the movie theater with my kids, going

902
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:53,719
what is this crappy movie that I'm watching?

903
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: So mark me down The Pooch and the Popper? Okay,

904
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:02,079
can you say in defense of The Pooch and the Popper?

905
00:47:02,639 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: I mean, great title. I'm a little intrigued. Actually, yeah,

906
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:07,960
it could be good.

907
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't have plans tomorrow night until now.

908
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: Now, d I'm curious, and we won't hold this against Fred.

909
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,800
The title that you were going to suggest, was it named.

910
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's called Schoolgirls spelled with a Y.

911
00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: Where would you put a y oy?

912
00:47:25,199 --> 00:47:30,119
Speaker 4: One eight one point eight? When I did the sorting

913
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:35,239
by rank. It was impressive. How many movies in the

914
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,320
two point something categoric. I don't know how many bad

915
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,360
movies you can make, but this is his amount is impressive.

916
00:47:41,679 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 5: That speaks to accessibility alignment with the proletariat. I feel

917
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:48,760
like there's.

918
00:47:48,559 --> 00:47:53,519
Speaker 4: A Tom Arnold and if Fred Willard was still alive,

919
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:55,599
got together and made a movie, it might rank in

920
00:47:55,639 --> 00:47:56,960
the negatives somehow.

921
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: Well, Michael, let's uh, there's still more sin to discuss.

922
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,239
D and his choice, Gary Oldman are on the stand,

923
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,280
so let's talk Gary Oldman's cinematic sins.

924
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 3: Michael.

925
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 6: I'm going to take a slightly different angle on this

926
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:13,679
because Gary Oldman is excellent in everything he's on. So

927
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,679
I am not about to criticize the man's decisions in

928
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,719
terms of role. What I am going to criticize here

929
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,679
is his decision in terms of impact. And here I

930
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,599
am going to attack the film JFK. Somehow this keeps

931
00:48:27,639 --> 00:48:28,159
coming up.

932
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:28,679
Speaker 2: Now.

933
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 6: I am entertained by JFK. I've watched it several times.

934
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,000
I think it is a well crafted movie. I think

935
00:48:35,039 --> 00:48:38,519
it is extremely well cast. I also think it has

936
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:42,440
forever altered our opinion of what happened on that fateful day.

937
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,960
I do not claim to know. I am interested in

938
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,679
the conspiracy theories. I am also interested in the mainstream message.

939
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,599
But I also believe that a large chunk of not

940
00:48:52,679 --> 00:48:57,039
just America, but the world now believes a certain story

941
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:02,199
because Gary Oldman was so good in that movie in

942
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a way that is a cinematic sen that it is

943
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presented as truth and as the final say. I have

944
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some reservations around that, and I'm gonna call that a

945
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sen I go with that.

946
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Speaker 1: You know, in the future, people are gonna look at

947
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,559
me and say, you hosted a podcast that said negative

948
00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:22,000
things about JFK, and I will be forced to say,

949
00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:28,159
I'm just a Patsyne. Oh wow.

950
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Speaker 6: All I mean to say is that there is such

951
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:33,639
a thing as too convincing.

952
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Speaker 2: Of a role. I'll leave it at that.

953
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,519
Speaker 3: Jason, Let's talk Sin and Gary Oldman.

954
00:49:38,639 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 7: Okay, So I'm gonna throw out the stupid IMDb rankings.

955
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,119
I could care less about what other people think. I

956
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:47,679
just know what I think, right. I am an expert

957
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on my own opinion. And when I went to the

958
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movie theater in nineteen ninety eight, when I watched The

959
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,559
Fifth Element, I thought This movie might be the worst

960
00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:03,119
piece of crap I've ever seen on screen. It is

961
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unbearable to me between Bruce Willows was uncool, and you

962
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had Gary Oldman dressed up like dead or alive from

963
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,960
you know, you spin me right around like a record.

964
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,320
I can't take this movie. I can't do it. I

965
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know other people like it. I think it's a giant

966
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pile of heaping crape.

967
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 4: Who you are, you worried, should be prayed.

968
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 3: So a lot of the federal governman scattered your people.

969
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,199
Speaker 4: To Queen, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Your

970
00:50:32,199 --> 00:50:36,199
time for revenge is out hand, and.

971
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Speaker 1: I guess as moderator, I shouldn't say anything, So I'll

972
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:41,719
go to Amet and ask him. I'm at your thoughts

973
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,480
on Gary Oldman's cinematic sins.

974
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm leaving myself a little vulnerable here because I'm

975
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,360
gonna point out one of Matthew McConaughey's bigger cinematic sins.

976
00:50:50,519 --> 00:50:52,960
And should you want to throw that back at me,

977
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you could also point out that Matthew McConaughey started in

978
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The Wedding Planner, which also featured Fred Willard. However, Fred

979
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,519
Willer did not accept to play a role in the

980
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movie Tiptoes from two thousand and two. Gary Olman did

981
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enough to be one of the leading characters. And what

982
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,360
is Tiptoes about, you ask, Let's just take a little look.

983
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:21,159
Let's google Tiptoes. The film's plot revolves an average size man,

984
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,079
Matthew McConaughey, who struggles with revealing to his pregnant fiance,

985
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,519
Kate Beckhamsale that his entire family are little people as

986
00:51:29,559 --> 00:51:32,360
he worries that their unborn child may be born with

987
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:33,119
dwarf ism.

988
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 2: Wow.

989
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 7: Interesting, Gary Oldman's in that.

990
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,119
Speaker 2: Gary Oldman is in there. He signed off.

991
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Speaker 5: He is one of the top three actors on it.

992
00:51:40,599 --> 00:51:42,079
In fact, he plays Rolf.

993
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 4: He plays a dwarf.

994
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 2: No, he plays Rolf.

995
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,159
Speaker 7: Okay, Peter Dinklice is in it.

996
00:51:48,119 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 5: Though, and I'm assuming he plays one of Matthew McConaughey's

997
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family members.

998
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 4: Just to be clear, he does play a dwarf.

999
00:51:53,960 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 5: WHOA Yes, Wow Oldman does. Yes, there's one small problem.

1000
00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 7: I'm wrong, I'm your brother.

1001
00:52:07,519 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: Were twins are your pants?

1002
00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 4: Wow? In my research today, I came across this movie

1003
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,039
and I was just like, Yeah, this one looks like

1004
00:52:17,079 --> 00:52:19,800
it has so much promise and yet but I mean

1005
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it's it's I don't think it's I mean they've got

1006
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multiple little people actors in it.

1007
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 2: Yes, then why do they need Oldman?

1008
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 3: Right exactly?

1009
00:52:27,639 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 7: Well, I think, yeah, that's making more grandiose.

1010
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1011
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,519
Speaker 1: So to clarify, we're not talking about Tim Conway's stores.

1012
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 3: We're talking about Gary Oldman's roof.

1013
00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:41,599
Speaker 5: So Gary munder played confusion there.

1014
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,199
Speaker 3: Uh, what do you have to say to defend Gary

1015
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:46,159
Oldman's cinematic sins?

1016
00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 4: Okay, So I have to take something back because earlier

1017
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,880
I said that the wild card category would be the

1018
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,239
category that I pulled a head not to be left behind.

1019
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,960
But apparently it's this category. I'm gonna just take them

1020
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:01,639
in reverse. Okay, tiptoes if that's a cinematic sin. Also

1021
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:06,360
committing that sin, as he mentioned, is Matthew McConaughey. Also

1022
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:13,519
Kate Beckhamsale, Peter Dinklice, Patricia Arquette, David Allen Greer. Everything

1023
00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:16,159
I read about it said it had so much promise

1024
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,360
for the first half, and in the last half it

1025
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,519
became a TV Movie of the Week kind of thing.

1026
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:23,719
I actually want to see this movie, despite the fact

1027
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,159
that it does have a dismal four point two rating

1028
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:30,679
on the other two movies. Fifth Element one of the

1029
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,000
best regarded sci fi movies of the nineties. I will

1030
00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:38,480
accept that as a sin if you will. And then

1031
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:43,480
JFK eight point oh, eight point oh. Are we playing

1032
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:48,920
the IMDb MVP or what if you go to IMDb?

1033
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:52,800
It's just telling you guys that you're all crazy.

1034
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 2: I'll save my rebus.

1035
00:53:57,079 --> 00:54:00,519
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, Michael, you're going to have to say here

1036
00:54:00,599 --> 00:54:04,280
because we're about to discuss the cinematic sins of Bill Paxson,

1037
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and we're going to begin with Jason.

1038
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 7: I love Bill Paxson. I can't deny it. I'm a

1039
00:54:08,519 --> 00:54:10,599
big Cameron guy. In fact, I listened to a two

1040
00:54:10,639 --> 00:54:12,880
hour interview with him today on the way over, and

1041
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,599
I presently like him even more than I did two

1042
00:54:15,679 --> 00:54:20,039
hours prior to that great actor, fun guy down to earth.

1043
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:22,639
But I know that I watched a movie in college

1044
00:54:23,039 --> 00:54:27,719
in nineteen ninety three called Monolith, and it's like X

1045
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:33,960
Files cops chasing Aliens, and I was very hopeful because obviously,

1046
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,880
if there's a guy who knows about aliens, it's Bill Paxson.

1047
00:54:37,519 --> 00:54:38,800
But this was a piece of crap.

1048
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 2: Who the hell are you that information is classified?

1049
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,119
Speaker 7: On this epicide? Where are you taking that girl?

1050
00:54:45,679 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 9: It's also classified? Can't you play any other tune? Let

1051
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:55,880
me lay some reality on you, Detective Tucker. If you

1052
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,679
obstruct me, you are obstructing the United States government.

1053
00:55:00,519 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 3: Ahmet. Your thoughts on Bill Paxton's cinematic sins.

1054
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I feel a little bad about this one

1055
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,400
because I think it was one of his last films

1056
00:55:08,519 --> 00:55:14,000
and was released posthumously. The Circle, which is an adaptation

1057
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:18,480
of Dave Egger's book of the same name. Horrible adaptation

1058
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,719
of that so particularly bothered me because I liked the

1059
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:27,480
book so much, and to see Bill Paxson play May's

1060
00:55:27,559 --> 00:55:31,480
father made a leading character in it in just this

1061
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,559
horribly conceived adaptation.

1062
00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 4: Was a punch in the gun.

1063
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 3: This was the one with Tom Hanks.

1064
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 5: Tom Hanks is notorious for accepting terrible roles in movie

1065
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,639
adaptations of Dave Eggers books.

1066
00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no rebuttal d your conversation about Bill

1067
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,199
Paxton's cinematic sins.

1068
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,119
Speaker 4: Well, I don't like watching bad movies. I avoid it

1069
00:55:55,199 --> 00:55:59,039
at all costs, but I also have five kids, and

1070
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:04,199
so sometimes it's unavoidable. And among the movies that I've

1071
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,480
had to watch because I have children are the Spy

1072
00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:13,119
Kids movies and he was in not one, but two

1073
00:56:13,639 --> 00:56:16,079
Spy Kids movies that'd be Spy Kids two and Spy

1074
00:56:16,199 --> 00:56:22,519
Kids three as Dinky Winks. I don't know how you

1075
00:56:22,679 --> 00:56:25,639
get offered the part of Dinky Winks and say yes

1076
00:56:26,159 --> 00:56:29,159
unless Robert Roriguez has agreed to put you in his

1077
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:34,280
next vampire or grindhouse movie. I don't. I just don't

1078
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:34,559
get it.

1079
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 6: Well, hy there, little nis versus lady, I'm Vicky Winks,

1080
00:56:38,679 --> 00:56:40,000
owner of this fine establishment.

1081
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,039
Speaker 2: Are you ready to ride the ride and shrield to

1082
00:56:42,119 --> 00:56:43,199
the thrill, spills and chills?

1083
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:43,519
Speaker 5: Yes?

1084
00:56:43,639 --> 00:56:45,559
Speaker 2: I am rap this.

1085
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 4: There, you go, take your pick. They're basically the same.

1086
00:56:49,159 --> 00:56:50,559
Speaker 3: I have nothing to say to Dicky Weeks.

1087
00:56:50,599 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: So what do you have to say as far as

1088
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,039
defending Bill Paxton's cinematic sins.

1089
00:56:56,199 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 2: Well, now that.

1090
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 6: We've gone through all of us, who among us has

1091
00:56:59,559 --> 00:57:03,360
not said here? I think what I would have to say.

1092
00:57:04,039 --> 00:57:07,119
IMBB can have their own stars, their own rakings. This

1093
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,159
is not a conversation about what the critics say. This

1094
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,199
is a conversation about what we want and what's best

1095
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,119
for us as we wade out the long hours and

1096
00:57:16,239 --> 00:57:17,639
days on this desert island.

1097
00:57:18,039 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 2: So that's thought one. Thought two.

1098
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:22,599
Speaker 6: I think I already said who among us is not sent?

1099
00:57:22,719 --> 00:57:25,679
And thought three, and this is probably the most important look.

1100
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,440
You're not going to have great movies if you don't

1101
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:31,519
take big risks. I think that's what we want from

1102
00:57:31,559 --> 00:57:33,760
our actors. I think we want them to say, you

1103
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:34,880
know what, I am going.

1104
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 9: To go for it.

1105
00:57:35,639 --> 00:57:37,719
Speaker 2: Hold my beer while I make this movie.

1106
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 6: And yes, sometimes that's going to result in the occasional

1107
00:57:41,599 --> 00:57:44,400
Spy Kids too, And maybe you ask somebody to do

1108
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,079
it again and Spy Kids three comes around, or maybe

1109
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:50,000
you say, you know what monolist sounds about. Right, I've

1110
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:54,719
had a good streak with these science fiction horror thriller movies.

1111
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,239
Speaker 2: What could go wrong?

1112
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,639
Speaker 6: And unfortunately everything goes wrong. But when you go for

1113
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,639
it the way Bill Paxton went for it, you also

1114
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:07,880
get The Terminator and Aliens and Twister and on Tombstone

1115
00:58:08,159 --> 00:58:10,840
and Big Love and you name it. So I'll take

1116
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,480
the good with the bad here, and I think on balance,

1117
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,480
these were calculated risks that pay off. No one is

1118
00:58:17,519 --> 00:58:21,760
a saint here, but the sum total of virtue far

1119
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:22,719
outweighs the sin.

1120
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 3: Well, I am nearing my final judgment.

1121
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: But before I offer that, should we offer you guys

1122
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:33,719
a short summation, just to say one last thing about

1123
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,840
your candidate for IMDb MVP.

1124
00:58:37,519 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll start. You want me to start?

1125
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,719
Speaker 7: Twenty eight billion dollars and eleven successful franchises. That is

1126
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,760
a catalog to take to a desert island. That right there,

1127
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:48,119
I'm it.

1128
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:54,159
Speaker 5: Three hundred and seventeen credits, both movie and television. You

1129
00:58:54,239 --> 00:58:56,800
don't know when that rescue boat is coming, so you

1130
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,079
better have a lot to watch.

1131
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,159
Speaker 4: D I feel like my competitors are just drawing at

1132
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,199
Straw's right now. I'm just going to give you a

1133
00:59:08,239 --> 00:59:10,199
few facts that I didn't have another place to put

1134
00:59:10,199 --> 00:59:15,719
it in. Fact number one, before he became a working actor,

1135
00:59:16,119 --> 00:59:19,639
he sold shoes and he beheaded pigs in a slaughterhouse.

1136
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,800
Fact number two. When he became an established actor, he

1137
00:59:25,039 --> 00:59:27,079
was the first one they offered the part of Edward

1138
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:29,559
Scissorhands too, and he turned it down.

1139
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 5: Because he might have had a pig with those sisserhands.

1140
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 4: And then fact number three, and I know you guys

1141
00:59:37,039 --> 00:59:39,119
have been waiting the whole show. I sent you a

1142
00:59:39,199 --> 00:59:43,760
picture earlier today Zuma Thurman nineteen ninety one. He was

1143
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:48,000
married to her from nineteen ninety to nineteen ninety two.

1144
00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:51,920
What the only And it just threw to throw it

1145
00:59:52,039 --> 00:59:55,400
back to the different types of movie. I mentioned all

1146
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,119
of the you know, kids movies that you could watch

1147
00:59:58,159 --> 01:00:02,000
with Gary Oldman. He had one in seventeen movie it's

1148
01:00:02,119 --> 01:00:06,119
called Wow Henry in June, and I remember that Uma

1149
01:00:06,239 --> 01:00:08,280
was in that one with him. I think that's where

1150
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,599
they hooked up. If you will okay that picture. If

1151
01:00:11,679 --> 01:00:14,599
that picture doesn't give me some kind of extra credit

1152
01:00:14,639 --> 01:00:17,119
that I don't really need, I don't know what does

1153
01:00:17,239 --> 01:00:18,000
I do like Uma?

1154
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? All right, Michael, Yeah, I don't know how to

1155
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,960
respond to that. I don't know how it has anything

1156
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:28,119
to do with what we were talking about. But my thoughts,

1157
01:00:28,519 --> 01:00:31,159
I think it's pretty simple. Who I want to hang

1158
01:00:31,239 --> 01:00:31,480
out with.

1159
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 6: As I'm waiting for that ship to arrive, I'm asking

1160
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,840
myself what do I want from a movie? And what

1161
01:00:38,039 --> 01:00:40,159
I want from a movie is to get lost in it.

1162
01:00:40,559 --> 01:00:42,719
I want to be taken somewhere else. I want to

1163
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:47,519
consider fantastic stories with epic stakes. I want to consider

1164
01:00:47,559 --> 01:00:51,119
the impossible, and I want the impossible to be made believable.

1165
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,559
Nobody was in the range of movies that accomplished that

1166
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:01,519
central goal across genres and across budgets. I think how

1167
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:03,599
much money it made and what the critics had to

1168
01:01:03,679 --> 01:01:07,159
say has nothing to do. This is about our relationship

1169
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,519
to film, and on that score, I cannot think of

1170
01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:13,559
a better candidate than the late great Bill Paxton.

1171
01:01:14,599 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: Very well, listeners, we have been discussing the box office roles,

1172
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:29,199
genre diversity, and films both bad and cinematically sinful of

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Bill Paxton, Gary Oldman, Samuel L.

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Speaker 3: Jackson, and Fred Willard.

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Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, this was not an easy decision,

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and it was a very tight race. I commend all

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four of you. But should I find myself a castaway

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with a treasure trove of one actor's films, I'm going

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to have to say the name is Gary Oldman. I'm

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looking at my score, I'm hearing these passionate please and ultimately,

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d I think you did a great job convincing me

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that Gary Oldman was the choice, because well, I won't

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tell you who I had tipped before this even started.

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Speaker 3: Gary Oldman was not who I expected I would come

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to in the end. So well, done, sir.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: It's a worthy foe. I see this argument.

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Speaker 1: Well, gentlemen, I can't thank you enough for allowing me

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the opportunity to moderate this amazing episode. Absolutely love both

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your shows. I'm at Michael. Can you tell us a

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little bit about what's coming up this season? On Famous

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and Gravy?

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Speaker 5: We select who we're going to talk about not too

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far in advance, and we bring a lot of real

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time to the table. There are some things I don't

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know if you want to preview them, Michael, Well, I don't.

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Speaker 6: Know without having prepared a quiz for the opening quiz.

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Speaker 2: How about this?

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Speaker 6: How about I call you early next week and you

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can take the opening quiz for the next Famous and

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Gravy episode.

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Speaker 3: I'll be happy, I'd be honored.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it all right?

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Speaker 6: All right, we like to not review until we get

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to the episode. Although now that we're putting the artwork out,

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it's not really working. But anyway, we'd like to try

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and keep it a mystery.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, our devoted listeners like to not know until the

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day of release.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Jason Dee, what can we expect this season on

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the Shirley You can't be serious?

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Speaker 7: Podcast man, we are covering a whole slew of awesome

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stuff from nineteen eighty four nineteen eighty nine. We're doing

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a little bit from nineteen seventy nine, so we're comparing

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The Car's Heartbeat City versus Brian adams Reckless album from

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nineteen eighty four. We're gonna do Pink Floyd's The Wall

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versus Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon head to

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head comparison there. We're even doing like great sequels from

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nineteen eighty nine. We're doing Lethal Weapon two versus Indiana

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Jones three.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be a lot of.

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Speaker 3: Fun, gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: I'm absolutely excited about the upcoming seasons that we're getting

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to both these podcasts, and I can't wait to hear

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what you guys have for us.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be great.

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Speaker 4: Jeff, what do you got coming up?

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Speaker 3: Well, i'll tell you.

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Speaker 1: Aside from doing we typically do, which is talk about

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directors in their underrated hits, I mentioned those limited series

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that we've had a lot of fun with in the past.

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We have a couple that are poised to start here

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very soon. We will be bringing back a film at

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forty five series for one more year where we'll celebrate

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the forty fifth anniversary of some of nineteen seventy nine's

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iconic films. We will also be doing our new limited

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series nineteen ninety six. So we had a blast talking

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about movies from nineteen eighty six. We kind of dumped

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back ten years and did nineteen seventy six last season,

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and this season we're jumping forward. We're gonna finish this trilogy,

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if you will. We're gonna be talking about films of

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nineteen ninety six, and we've got a lot of great,

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great people lined up.

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Speaker 4: So we're gonna have some fun, awesome, very cool.

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Speaker 2: Jeff, thanks for moderating this, and d congratulations.

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Speaker 3: You guys did a great job. I had a blast,

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so thanks, thank for having me.

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Speaker 1: The question is did we get it right? Is Gary

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Oldman the IMDb MVP? Or did you have another choice

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in mind? Did you have someone in mind that maybe

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we didn't even discuss. Please let us know.

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Speaker 4: Reach out.

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Speaker 1: You can find the social media channels and websites for

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Famous and Gravy, the Sureley you Can't Be Serious podcast,

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and a fum By podcast in the show notes. We

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would love to hear from you and find out what

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your thoughts were,