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<v Speaker 1>Legends have a way of surviving longer than the people

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<v Speaker 1>who tell them, and tonight the listener shares a terrifying

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<v Speaker 1>moment when an old curse or something even darker seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to reveal itself beneath the full desert moon. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Edwin and here is taw wishes true scary story.

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<v Speaker 2>Growing up, we were exposed to a lot of religion.

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<v Speaker 2>And we I mean me and my brother and my family.

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<v Speaker 2>We were raised Catholic through my grandma. She immigrated from

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<v Speaker 2>Mexico from dra Ango, and there's a lot of speculation

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of gossip in our family that we have.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you can call like a little generational curse.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's nothing that I've really paid much attention to.

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<v Speaker 2>Even when I was little, we believed in go ghosts.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and my brother would watch ghost hunters and ghost

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<v Speaker 2>adventures literally every week. Whenever any chance that we could,

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<v Speaker 2>we would get on YouTube and watch ghost videos. So

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we kind of manifested a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff up for us. So we had a very

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<v Speaker 2>strong interest in the paranormal growing up, and we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really experience too much. But I noticed a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>this started after my grandma died in two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 2>After she passed, it was pretty hard for my family

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<v Speaker 2>for my grandpa, He and my grandma moved from Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>and the majority of the stories that happened are at

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<v Speaker 2>my grandpa's property. They lived with a family who owned

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<v Speaker 2>a church in a little area on the outskirts of

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<v Speaker 2>Las Cruces. So imagine desolate desert, tumbleweeds, not even a highway,

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<v Speaker 2>just come fleet, barren desert, and this desert was a

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<v Speaker 2>small family church that they offered up a room for

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<v Speaker 2>my grandpa and for his family to live in. They

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<v Speaker 2>traded work for a piece of land that my grandpa

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<v Speaker 2>can build his house eventually on, and he did build it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a beautiful two story house that he built

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<v Speaker 2>with my grandma's help, with his son's help and my

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<v Speaker 2>auntie's help, who were of age at the time. So anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>fast forward into the present. After my grandma had unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>passed away in the house, that's when we realized a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of spiritual energy was still heavily connected. My grandpa

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<v Speaker 2>went into a very very dark, deep depression and it

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<v Speaker 2>was really hard to get him out of it. So

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<v Speaker 2>we would my brother and I would constantly go visit

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<v Speaker 2>him in the summers, on our fall breaks, on our

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<v Speaker 2>spring breaks, anytime that we had a break. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we were always there. There was a lot of division

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<v Speaker 2>in the family because he did remarry maybe three years

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<v Speaker 2>after my grandma had passed. I felt like after that

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<v Speaker 2>that's when the uptick in spiritual I don't know, manifestations

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<v Speaker 2>started happening. There was an instance where I was staying

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<v Speaker 2>over one summer at my grandpa's house and he was

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<v Speaker 2>gone for the day. He was out in town, and

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<v Speaker 2>so was his wife. So I was the only one

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<v Speaker 2>in a humongous two story house. In his main living room,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's huge, it takes up the majority of the house.

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<v Speaker 2>I could hear what sounded like my grandpa arguing with

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<v Speaker 2>somebody in Spanish. I could hear it through the walls

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<v Speaker 2>where his bedroom was. His bedroom was connected to the

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<v Speaker 2>living room. I walked up to the door of his

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<v Speaker 2>bedroom and I put my ear against it to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure I heard what I had thought. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>was hearing was a loud argument in Spanish. When I

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<v Speaker 2>went up to the door, I didn't hear anything behind it,

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<v Speaker 2>so I jiggled the handle. I knocked just to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure my grandpa wasn't in there, And when I opened

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<v Speaker 2>the door, it was completely empty. I looked inside his closet,

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<v Speaker 2>there was nobody in there. I also looked inside his

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<v Speaker 2>bathroom because it's connected to the main kitchen. They kind

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<v Speaker 2>of share like a Romeo and Juliet style doors where

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<v Speaker 2>someone can enter through the kitchen and exit out through

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom. And all those doors were closed. So I

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<v Speaker 2>go about my business. I shut the door, leave the room,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm in the kitchen. So like I said, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, the you can have easy access to my

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<v Speaker 2>grandpa's room from the kitchen or from the hallway. So

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<v Speaker 2>while I was in the kitchen making myself something to eat,

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<v Speaker 2>I heard furniture moving upstairs. Now this wouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 2>an issue if there was some people moving the furniture.

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<v Speaker 2>The furniture that was being moved around was heavy cherrywood

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<v Speaker 2>furniture from like the fifties, like really thick industrial stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It would take like a five man army to move

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<v Speaker 2>around this bedroom set. It was heavy. So as I'm

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<v Speaker 2>making my food, I'm listening to the shelves moving around,

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<v Speaker 2>to the bedframe moving around like you can hear something

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<v Speaker 2>dragging pieces of furniture above me, and above me was

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<v Speaker 2>actually my mom's old room. Whenever my grandpa constructed the house,

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<v Speaker 2>he set bedrooms aside for my auntie, for my uncle,

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<v Speaker 2>and for my mom. So above the kitchen was my

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<v Speaker 2>mom's bedroom. After my mom had moved out, my grandpa

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<v Speaker 2>took over that room himself, and he's still sleeping in

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<v Speaker 2>that room. Mind you, he has this whole bedroom like

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<v Speaker 2>seven bedroom house to himself, and he only chooses to

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<v Speaker 2>sleep in my mom's room. He doesn't want to sleep

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<v Speaker 2>in the master bedroom anymore or any of the auxiliary

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<v Speaker 2>bedrooms that he has. He'd rather sleep in my mom's bedroom.

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<v Speaker 2>So he is a little bit older and he does

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<v Speaker 2>have caretakers that take care of him well. One of

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<v Speaker 2>his caretakers was fixing the bed and as she was

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<v Speaker 2>adding the fitted sheet to the mattress, she put her

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<v Speaker 2>fingers underneath the mattress to kind of spread it the

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<v Speaker 2>fitted sheet underneath it, and she felt a bag as

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<v Speaker 2>she stuck her hand underneath the mattress a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>She took out a ziploc bag that was filled with

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<v Speaker 2>human teeth. And this isn't the first time anybody has

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<v Speaker 2>found something like that in my grandpa's home. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of common with human hair, with human teeth is associated

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<v Speaker 2>a lot with gorandaria or bruchheria. Sometimes it's not all

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<v Speaker 2>good luck and happy charm. Sometimes it's very awful things

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<v Speaker 2>that happen because of that. After his caretaker found that

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<v Speaker 2>bag of teeth, she showed it to my grandpa right away.

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<v Speaker 2>My grandpa has been one to like dismiss supernatural things

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<v Speaker 2>unless it happens to him, so her finding a bag

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<v Speaker 2>of teeth underneath his mattress didn't face him at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And this man is a veteran of the Vietnam War,

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<v Speaker 2>so seeing that, I kind of figured it wouldn't face

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<v Speaker 2>him as much. It's usually the unexplainable that really gets

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<v Speaker 2>his gears going. During the summer of twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel is when a lot of my faith was tested,

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<v Speaker 2>my family's faith was tested, and in general it really

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<v Speaker 2>put us in a rock and a hard place. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>in that summer, I lost my stepdad. He had a

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<v Speaker 2>heart attack in his sleep, and that really shook the

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<v Speaker 2>family to its core. It was very strange and unusual.

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<v Speaker 2>While he was he did have a lot of health

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<v Speaker 2>issues prior to his last and final heart attack. He

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<v Speaker 2>was hospitalized for about two months, and he and my

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<v Speaker 2>mom made the choice to move back to Las Crusis

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<v Speaker 2>because it was cheaper. Honestly, it was a very hard summer.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a death that really took us by surprise,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was heartbreaking because the night prior, my grandpa

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<v Speaker 2>told me that he just heard my mom and my

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<v Speaker 2>stepdad laughing and laughing like they were just little children,

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<v Speaker 2>just giggling and laughing at anything, till two in the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>and that morning my mom said that he just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>wake up. We had lost him. Unbeknownst to my brother

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<v Speaker 2>and I, our biological father was actually not doing well

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<v Speaker 2>for himself either. That year, we also lost my biological

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<v Speaker 2>dad in December. It was during the funeral of my

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<v Speaker 2>biological father that I feel like it was I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how to put into words. It was a revelation

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<v Speaker 2>to me of how close death is for all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not on the doorstep like everybody's thinking about, or

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<v Speaker 2>it's not somebody that can walk over the grave. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like a whisper, something that you'll hear in the wind,

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<v Speaker 2>but you'll only hear the clarity once it's close to

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<v Speaker 2>your ear. Behind my grandpa's house, there's a hill. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how significant this hill is to the

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<v Speaker 2>community or to the little town that my grandpa lives in,

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<v Speaker 2>but growing up, my mom would always tell me that

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<v Speaker 2>it was like a party hill. A lot of teenagers

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<v Speaker 2>would go and drink and smoke up there, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was easy to access. It wasn't a hill that was

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<v Speaker 2>too crazy with too many trails. It was just a

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<v Speaker 2>small hill and when you get on the top, but

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<v Speaker 2>it you could probably see maybe fifty to sixty miles

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<v Speaker 2>into nothing but farming community and dairies and the highway.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all you can see from the top. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know the history of the hill too much. My grandpa

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<v Speaker 2>did tell me at one point that the hill was

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<v Speaker 2>so ancient and it had so much spiritual meaning towards

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<v Speaker 2>the Apaches or the indigenous folk that did live in

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<v Speaker 2>that area before the Concises colonized. And he had said

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<v Speaker 2>that there was a band of renegade Indians who would

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<v Speaker 2>use that mountain to do their rituals and to do

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<v Speaker 2>their dances, and they cursed the land and whoever lives

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<v Speaker 2>on it something like that, just old ghost stories basically,

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<v Speaker 2>And eventually the hill got built into a small community

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<v Speaker 2>guard garden that the little village of Mesquito del the

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<v Speaker 2>little area that my grandpa lives in. They all got

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<v Speaker 2>together and just made the cutest little garden, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just out of recyclables, tires, palettes, built right into the hillside.

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<v Speaker 2>So this night, my husband and I decided to take

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<v Speaker 2>a walk to this little community garden, and as we're walking,

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<v Speaker 2>the full moon is illuminating the desert landscape. When you

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<v Speaker 2>have the full moon and the desert, nothing is invisible.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the sun is out again. Things aren't visible

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<v Speaker 2>too much into detail, but just enough where you can

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<v Speaker 2>tell where something, you can make out the shape of something.

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<v Speaker 2>So as my husband and I are walking to this

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<v Speaker 2>community garden, and the closer that we get to it,

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<v Speaker 2>are realize that it's getting darker. The light of the

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<v Speaker 2>moon is it's casting a shadow rather than light. And

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<v Speaker 2>as we're getting closer to the community garden, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>what I can only describe as spider webs or in

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<v Speaker 2>my eyes. And no matter how much how hard I

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<v Speaker 2>rubbed or how much I scratched out my eyes, it

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<v Speaker 2>felt like I couldn't get the spider webs out, And

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<v Speaker 2>as we were getting closer, my husband was reaching at

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<v Speaker 2>his face and he said, oh, I think I ran

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<v Speaker 2>into a spider web or something. There's something in my eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't see all that well. Now. While he's experiencing this,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm dead silent because I'm struggling on my own. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard to walk in the desert with only the

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<v Speaker 2>moon as your guide. Me also being severely blind, it's

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<v Speaker 2>very difficult for me to watch where I'm walking, managing

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<v Speaker 2>my eyesight and trying to listen to him. So in

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<v Speaker 2>doing so, I lost my footing a little bit in

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<v Speaker 2>the loose sand, and I had bumped into a porta

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<v Speaker 2>potty that they have sat in front of the community garden.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I realized I had bumped into it, I

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<v Speaker 2>look at my husband and I tell him, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>it's getting really hard for me to see. And he's

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<v Speaker 2>like me too, Do you think we should just go back?

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<v Speaker 2>And I told him no, we're already here. We may

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<v Speaker 2>as well just continue on and the picnic tables aren't

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<v Speaker 2>too far from us, so we can continue just a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more. And we should have turned back when

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<v Speaker 2>I said that. As we were walking closer to the

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<v Speaker 2>picnic tables, it felt like we were walking through a

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<v Speaker 2>haze or a fog. Everything started feeling so heavy. I

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<v Speaker 2>to mention anything to my husband because we were already

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<v Speaker 2>so close to the picnic tables. As we're getting closer,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm noticing in my peripheral vision, I'm seeing shapes manifest

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<v Speaker 2>themselves into people, like puddles of ink were just in

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<v Speaker 2>contrasting the desert nighttime sky versus the moon, and the

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<v Speaker 2>only thing I could see were just odd figures just

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<v Speaker 2>existing and then not existing at all, if that makes

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<v Speaker 2>any sense. Like they would manifest and then they would

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<v Speaker 2>just disappear, and it felt like they were and hiding

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<v Speaker 2>behind the foliage of the desert. So there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of heavy trees and a lot of thick thorn bushes

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<v Speaker 2>that are basically encapsulating this community garden. While I'm noticing

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<v Speaker 2>these shapes taken place, my husband says out loud, I

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<v Speaker 2>see people at the picnic table. I turn around and

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<v Speaker 2>him like, yeah, I see them too. I see a

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<v Speaker 2>few people sitting around, so my husband asks me to

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<v Speaker 2>call out to them to see if we can join them,

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<v Speaker 2>or if we can join their area. My family and

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<v Speaker 2>I are pretty local to this area, so it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>out there? Is it okay if we join you? It's

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<v Speaker 2>my grandpa. As I'm calling out to the darkness, I

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<v Speaker 2>you know, can we visit with you? Is it okay

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<v Speaker 2>if we join your area? And there wasn't a reply.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the picnic table, you can see humanoid figures

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<v Speaker 2>staring back at my husband and I like they're understanding,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're not responding to my question or responding back

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<v Speaker 2>if I can sit with them. At this moment, I

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<v Speaker 2>realized that my husband and I are screaming at nothing

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<v Speaker 2>because nothing is replying back to us. As I turned

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<v Speaker 2>my body away from the picnic tables to look at

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<v Speaker 2>the highway, I notice that it's very dark, like somebody

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<v Speaker 2>had snuffed out the moon. And mind you, the moon

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<v Speaker 2>was very full this night, and it was illuminating everything

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<v Speaker 2>I could see. But when I turned around, it felt

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<v Speaker 2>like somebody had cloaked us in a thick, dark veil.

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<v Speaker 2>It was hard to breathe still. I could feel all

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<v Speaker 2>the hairs on my arms just stand on end. And

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<v Speaker 2>I heard next to the picnic tables that sounded like

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<v Speaker 2>a stick or something was being crunched underneath a foot.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I turn around, I see a white face

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<v Speaker 2>that's contrasting between the hillside, the picnic table, and the

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<v Speaker 2>community garden. Everything was pitch black except this face. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the face wasn't looking straight at me at the turn.

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<v Speaker 2>It was turned to itsile, as if it was watching

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<v Speaker 2>something in the desert. And after I saw the face,

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<v Speaker 2>my husband was standing next to me, and I grabbed

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<v Speaker 2>his arm in a panic, and I just made a sound.

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<v Speaker 2>I just gasped. As I gasped, what felt like something

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<v Speaker 2>out of a movie. This face was looking out into

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<v Speaker 2>the desert, and it felt like it had phased out

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<v Speaker 2>of reality, if that makes any sense. It was looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the desert, and I could have sworn I heard

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<v Speaker 2>like a thick snap of the neck where it shuddered itself. Can't,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even explain it not restraining the movement of

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<v Speaker 2>snapping its neck towards us to get like if a

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<v Speaker 2>predator was in the woods and its prey had snapped

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<v Speaker 2>a twig next to it, how it snapped its head

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<v Speaker 2>towards the sound. That's what it did. It snapped its

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<v Speaker 2>head towards the sound that my husband and I had made.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear this all the time from ghost shows and

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<v Speaker 2>paranormal movies, that people's blood runs cold, and I had

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<v Speaker 2>never experienced that until this night. I felt like my

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<v Speaker 2>blood had turned into ice, and it was so hard

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<v Speaker 2>for me to breathe. I felt like the world stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything stopped. There was no noise, there was no light,

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<v Speaker 2>there was no heartbeat in my chest. I stood there

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<v Speaker 2>frozen looking at this face, and it was staring back

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<v Speaker 2>at me. Now, it wasn't a face that looked like

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<v Speaker 2>a human face. It had pitched black eyes that seemed

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<v Speaker 2>not to have an ending. They were hollow. It was

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<v Speaker 2>hollow black eyes, and it didn't smile. It didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a grin. But you can tell where the mouth was

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<v Speaker 2>because it looked like a mask with a simple like

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<v Speaker 2>covering of the mouth. I'm not sure how to explain it.

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<v Speaker 2>The best I can say is like the roar shark

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<v Speaker 2>mask from that Superhero movie. I forgot what it's called,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was pretty much like that. The black masses

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<v Speaker 2>on its face were moving around, taking different shapes, not

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<v Speaker 2>different eye shapes, but different sized hollowness of the eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>And at that moment, I grabbed my husband's arms and

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at him and I said, we need to go.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't ask me why, He didn't ask me what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>He also turned himself around and was on my heels

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<v Speaker 2>running basically back to my grandpa's house. And I made

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<v Speaker 2>it a point not to share what I had seen

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<v Speaker 2>because I know he was experiencing something. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>he was also very silent. Now, my husband is a

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<v Speaker 2>dibber dribber. He loves to talk except whenever something important's happening,

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<v Speaker 2>and this was one of those times, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>dead silent. He followed me all the way to my

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<v Speaker 2>grandpa's house, and I was full horse running. I am

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<v Speaker 2>not a runner, except for this time. I ran like

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<v Speaker 2>my life depended on it, because I felt like it did.

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<v Speaker 2>As we make our way back to my grandpa's house,

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<v Speaker 2>we come in through the kitchen. Un this is pretty important.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's random, but it is important detail. We

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<v Speaker 2>come in through the kitchen and we turn into the

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<v Speaker 2>hallway which leads into some extra bedrooms and my grandpa's

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<v Speaker 2>master bedroom. As we go in and try to settle in,

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<v Speaker 2>me aside and he looks at me, and my husband

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<v Speaker 2>asks me, I know you saw something. What did you see?

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<v Speaker 2>And I told him about how it felt like I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't see as we were walking through the community garden,

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<v Speaker 2>how it felt like there was a thick fog that

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<v Speaker 2>we were walking into that was preventing me from breathing.

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<v Speaker 2>And he confirmed that he felt like that too, like

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<v Speaker 2>he was walking through a fog of humidity. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just hard for him to breathe as well. I told

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<v Speaker 2>him about the face I saw, and he told me

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<v Speaker 2>to stop what I was talking about because he saw

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<v Speaker 2>it too. I was having my experience. He was witnessing

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<v Speaker 2>the exact same thing I was witnessing. After he told

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<v Speaker 2>me to stop telling him the story, not is because

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<v Speaker 2>he was scared, but because he wanted to finish off

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<v Speaker 2>what he had seen, and he told me the exact

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<v Speaker 2>same things that I was watching. He saw it all

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<v Speaker 2>unfold at his very feet as well. So we're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make an idea of what we thought it was,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least if it could be explained by science,

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<v Speaker 2>and it couldn't. It's something that really marked us and

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't done with us. So while my husband and

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<v Speaker 2>I are trying to get into bed, the bathroom light

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<v Speaker 2>in the master bathroom turns on. Now, this wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>too crazy if the light switches we're connected normally. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's a set of light switches that you can control

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom on in the bedroom that we're staying in,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's also a set on the outside of the

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<v Speaker 2>bathroom towards the kitchen. Now it's important to know this

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<v Speaker 2>because the outside bathroom lights they control one part of

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom. It's connected to a vanity. Whereas the lights

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<v Speaker 2>that can be controlled in the bedroom, those are the

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<v Speaker 2>overhead lights and both lights both switches. They don't control

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<v Speaker 2>both lights, if that makes any sense. So while we're

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<v Speaker 2>getting ready for bed, the bathroom lights turn on. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought originally it was my brother that had come into

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom and forgot to turn them off. But we

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<v Speaker 2>waited about an hour and a half and we realized

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<v Speaker 2>that the bathroom lights weren't turning off, so I opened

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom to check nobody's there, and that's when I

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<v Speaker 2>figured out that it wasn't the vanity lights that were

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<v Speaker 2>on as if somebody was coming from the outside in.

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<v Speaker 2>It was from our bedroom, like the lights were turned

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<v Speaker 2>on in there, but which was impossible. My husband was

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<v Speaker 2>already asleep and I was watching TV in bed, so

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<v Speaker 2>I turned off the lights. Tried not to make a

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<v Speaker 2>big deal out of it, but then we heard a

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<v Speaker 2>cat meowing in the hallway. My grandpa doesn't own a cat.

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<v Speaker 2>It was loud enough to wake up my husband and

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<v Speaker 2>he asked me, did you hear that? I asked him,

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<v Speaker 2>was it a meow? He's like, yeah, I thought I

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<v Speaker 2>just heard a freaking cat, and I told him, you did.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in the hallway. So we waited a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>longer to see if we could hear nowing again, and

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<v Speaker 2>we did hear meowing, except it was coming from the

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<v Speaker 2>bathroom that was right next to our bedroom. That had

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<v Speaker 2>gone to check to see if somebody had left the

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<v Speaker 2>lights on outside of the bathroom, and nobody did, and

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<v Speaker 2>I made sure I closed that door while I was

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<v Speaker 2>coming back into the bedroom. So I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>the cat got inside that bathroom, but it felt like

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<v Speaker 2>it was trying to come into our bedroom, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It was scratching out the door, and I pointed my

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<v Speaker 2>flashlight on my phone towards the bottom of the doorframe,

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<v Speaker 2>and you could see a little paw trying to come in.

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<v Speaker 2>So while I've tried to scare this cat, I asked

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<v Speaker 2>my husband run around to the opposite side where the

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<v Speaker 2>kitchen is. I'm gonna scare the cat from inside the bedroom.

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<v Speaker 2>You open up the door so that way it can

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<v Speaker 2>run out. So I go to the bathroom door trying

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<v Speaker 2>to scare this cat. And when he opened up the

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<v Speaker 2>door to let it run outside the opposite way, there

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<v Speaker 2>was no cat at all, and there's no way for

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<v Speaker 2>it to escape other than through the kitchen door or

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<v Speaker 2>the bedroom door. As for that night, my husband and

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<v Speaker 2>I we called it. We said good night. Whatever is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna happen is gonna happen while we were asleep. So

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<v Speaker 2>we went to bed. The next morning, we felt drained,

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<v Speaker 2>as if something came through the night and just sucked

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<v Speaker 2>out all the moisture, all the energy, all of sense

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<v Speaker 2>of life out of my husband's eye, even to the

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<v Speaker 2>point where we joined my grandpa for breakfast in the

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<v Speaker 2>kitchen and he looked at us both and said, what

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<v Speaker 2>did you guys do last night? Because you look tired?

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<v Speaker 2>And my husband and I looked at each other reluctantly

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out, like you know, nonverbal communication, if

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<v Speaker 2>we should tell my grandpa what we saw the night prior.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like it was pretty important to tell him.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's very in tune with a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual things. He understands more than I feel like other

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<v Speaker 2>people do about the paranormal, about the supernatural. So we

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<v Speaker 2>told him about our experience in the desert that night,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said that he had a dream. And too

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<v Speaker 2>many indigenous and Mexican cultures, dreams are very important to us.

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<v Speaker 2>We believe that's how we get communication through the supernatural,

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<v Speaker 2>how we can use our dreams to discern what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>in our life. In his dream, he said that he

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<v Speaker 2>was outside of his house in his backyard, and in

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<v Speaker 2>his backyard is there's another hiking trail, if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>that goes up that hill. While he was standing in

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<v Speaker 2>the backyard, he has one street light that illuminates the

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<v Speaker 2>entire back, so it's completely orange. He said that the dream,

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<v Speaker 2>he could see himself very small, standing in front of

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<v Speaker 2>the hill. I'm coming up from behind. The hill was

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<v Speaker 2>something out of a horror movie. He said that it

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<v Speaker 2>was a giant winged being that stretched its arms out

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<v Speaker 2>and like a shadow. Whatever body part that this being

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<v Speaker 2>touched was covered in darkness. As it continued to stretch

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<v Speaker 2>out its limbs all over the desert. It covered everything

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<v Speaker 2>in like a dark veil, and included was my grandpa's house,

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<v Speaker 2>the hill, and the rest of the desert. And in

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<v Speaker 2>his dream, he said that this dark figure was gently

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<v Speaker 2>chuckling to itself like it had won again, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>where the dream ended. He gave us a blessing basically afterwards,

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<v Speaker 2>and he noticed that we weren't the same, if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>we were very quiet the rest of the day. Usually

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<v Speaker 2>my husband and I were always joking. We're always laughing,

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<v Speaker 2>we're always talking. We were just tired. We felt like

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<v Speaker 2>we were dead to the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Tae Wish, thank you so much for sharing your experiences

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<v Speaker 1>with the rest of us here at the True Scary

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<v Speaker 1>Story community, and for everyone else here listening. Tau Wish

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually spoke. We have a lot more to

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<v Speaker 1>the story here from ta Wish, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>publish these in an upcoming episode here at the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's interesting how in the very beginning, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about a curse, a potential curse, something that

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<v Speaker 1>might have been happening here to the topic we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>to a couple of times actually around here, where I ask,

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<v Speaker 1>can fear be passed down from generation generation? And in

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<v Speaker 1>that same way, can certain senses, like a certain sensitivity

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<v Speaker 1>to the spiritual world also be passed down? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>hear a lot of this, we mentioned it actually two

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<v Speaker 1>episodes ago or three episodes ago. How when we hear

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of women actually that, oh, my grandma used

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<v Speaker 1>to practice this or my mom used to do to

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<v Speaker 1>sense this. Now I can and now feel like my

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<v Speaker 1>daughter can as well. Like these kinds of things they happen,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes us wonder can these things be passed down

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<v Speaker 1>in that same way? Can something that's not as positive

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<v Speaker 1>be also passed down? I also wanted to bring up

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<v Speaker 1>this point during the recording here actually for this section, specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>when tah Wish was explaining the darkness, how it felt unnatural,

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<v Speaker 1>almost like it was a veil over the landscape, covering

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<v Speaker 1>the whole area. Now, all these things that we hear,

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you're watching a paranormal show, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>a ghost hunting show, and they say the air just

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<v Speaker 1>feels thick, or like you can't breathe, or you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there's sudden tightness in the chest, or like when

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<v Speaker 1>there's finally relief when something's gone and you can breathe again,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel a little bit different. Is there something to that?

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<v Speaker 1>Also when you're you know, in the cool desert breeze,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then suddenly you feel this like oppressive

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<v Speaker 1>like tightness, like this something's just not right. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you explain that? Along with that the thing in their eyes?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it a coincidence that both of them felt that

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<v Speaker 1>same thing as some of you may know. My family's

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<v Speaker 1>from the desert in Sonora in Mexico, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stories actually from those regions. Things that

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<v Speaker 1>you feel out in the in the night, sudden fireballs,

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<v Speaker 1>stones being thrown, like I covered in an episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Horror Story. There's also sightings of little creatures that are

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<v Speaker 1>out there, but never quite like this one, like the

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<v Speaker 1>one we got to hear today with a pale phase

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<v Speaker 1>that turned around. I don't know about you, but I

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<v Speaker 1>felt chills when I heard that. Actually, when I heard

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<v Speaker 1>it live, I know it's wish. Can can you know

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<v Speaker 1>confirm this? Because when she was explaining this, I was

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<v Speaker 1>like WHOA Like I was. It's eerie to think that

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<v Speaker 1>you make a sound, this thing turns and looks toward you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, obviously I would have done the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing here just kind of run away. I'm not sticking

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<v Speaker 1>around for that, but it's bizarre, like what could have been.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of things out there that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about the desert, about areas where there's not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people, maybe just small communities. What was it?

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna leave you with this. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>visited a place where the atmosphere, like the environment just

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<v Speaker 1>changes from one second to the next, that it just

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<v Speaker 1>every instinct tells you to get out of there, to

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<v Speaker 1>just leave before you even saw anything unusual. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>know if that has ever happened to you. This episode

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<v Speaker 1>of True Scary Story was edited and sound designed by

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<v Speaker 1>me Edwin Coward Rubiez, with additional production by the Scary

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<v Speaker 1>FM team. If you have one. To submit your story,

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<v Speaker 1>head on over to true scarystory dot com. Always listening

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<v Speaker 1>in for upcoming stories. I'm always like on the lookout

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<v Speaker 1>for more. If you have any stories in Spanish, please

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<v Speaker 1>reach out to me. You can email me, you can

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<v Speaker 1>also DM me. I have my contact information in the

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<v Speaker 1>description of every single episode, so please get in touch.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's all I got. Thank you very much for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep it scary everyone, See you soon.
