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<v Speaker 1>What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein Chronicles. Any talk of Glayne Maxwell getting a pardon

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<v Speaker 1>is absolute nonsense. If anybody ever deserved to be in prison,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Glayne Maxwell. And I can't even believe that we

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<v Speaker 1>have to have this conversation. Have we forgotten what Glainne

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<v Speaker 1>Maxwell was found guilty of. Now, I shouldn't be shocked

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a lot of people who have just shown

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<v Speaker 1>up to the party talking a bunch of nonsense. But

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<v Speaker 1>the truth is, anybody that followed the trial, anybody that

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<v Speaker 1>followed the lead up, and certainly anybody who has listened

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<v Speaker 1>to the survivors knows that Glayne Maxwell is as much

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<v Speaker 1>of a monster as Jeffrey Epstein ever was, at least

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to proclivities. This woman was willing to

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<v Speaker 1>use her womanhood to lure little girls into the belly

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<v Speaker 1>of the beast. So anybody talking about Gallayne Maxwell getting

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<v Speaker 1>a pardon should do everybody a favor and shut all

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<v Speaker 1>the way up. Today we have an article from the

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<v Speaker 1>Metro and the headline Andy Burnham needs to tell Trump

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<v Speaker 1>not to pardon my groomer, Glayne Maxwell. This article was

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<v Speaker 1>authored by Luke Alsford. Lara Bloom McGhee, who says she

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<v Speaker 1>was groomed by Maxwell, aged twenty, has urged the new

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister to make it clear Epstein's former girlfriend should

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<v Speaker 1>stay behind bars. And what does it say about the

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<v Speaker 1>President of the United States that anybody would have to

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<v Speaker 1>convince him of that? That should just be a foregone conclusion. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>We're not giving this psychopaths any kind of pardon. What

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<v Speaker 1>are you crazy? But here we are talking about nonsense,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about giving her a pardon. Now, look, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that that's going to happen for sure. One of

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<v Speaker 1>my biggest problems is that we're having the conversation at all.

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<v Speaker 1>He's exhausted every avenue when it comes to an appeal,

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<v Speaker 1>but all of a sudden she's going to get a pardon.

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<v Speaker 1>Every court in the land says that she should stay

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<v Speaker 1>in prison. But somehow she deserves clemency from the White House.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody make that make sense. Lawyer Spencer Covin, who has

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<v Speaker 1>represented nine Epstein victims, said Burnham has a voice over

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<v Speaker 1>a feared pardon of Maxwell, who is a British citizen.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is not ruled out granting clemency to the former

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<v Speaker 1>socialite who is sentenced to twenty years in prison on

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<v Speaker 1>child sex trafficking charges in twenty twenty two. Remember all

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<v Speaker 1>that talk from all these people that call this a

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<v Speaker 1>hoax now about kids being trafficked, and wayfair about Isaac Cappy,

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<v Speaker 1>about Frazzle Drip, about all this other nonsense that was

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<v Speaker 1>completely and utterly made up. But when they're confronted by

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<v Speaker 1>real evil, by a real monster who's being protected by

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<v Speaker 1>their team, all of a sudden, it's nuanced. All of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, it's a hoax. Yeah, sorry, nobody buys it.

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<v Speaker 1>Many survivors are outraged that Trump's new US Attorney General,

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Blanche, who was responsible for moving Maxwell to a

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<v Speaker 1>minimum security prison shortly after meeting her last year. No

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<v Speaker 1>basis for it, no reason for it, just did it,

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<v Speaker 1>And nobody's up in arms. Nobody's demanding that Todd Blanche

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<v Speaker 1>be brought in for questioning. Oh, that's right, because even

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<v Speaker 1>if he's brought in the clown show that makes up

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<v Speaker 1>the Congress in the Senate, they're just going to give

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<v Speaker 1>him a pass anyway. Got to make sure their god

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<v Speaker 1>emperors hooked up right. One of those who reiled against

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<v Speaker 1>Blanche's confirmation last week was McGee, who was just twenty

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<v Speaker 1>when she met Maxwell at New York Fashion Week in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand. So what will happen now is people will

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<v Speaker 1>say what she was twenty, how could she get abused?

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<v Speaker 1>As if grown ass adults can't be abused, McGee told

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<v Speaker 1>Metro pardon for Maxwell would not only be a travesty

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<v Speaker 1>of justice, but a devastating message to survivors everywhere. We

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<v Speaker 1>cannot allow this. We will not allow this. Look I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>it's unacceptable and it should not be allowed. And anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who backs the idea, I consider them an enabler and

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that should be looked into. As well. As well

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<v Speaker 1>as being British, Maxwell's victims were also groomed and abused

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<v Speaker 1>at our residence in London, according to the US Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice. Asked what our message would be to the

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<v Speaker 1>UK's new Prime Minister, McGee said, Prime Minister Burnham, stand

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<v Speaker 1>with us. Use your influence to ensure that the UK

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<v Speaker 1>is a beacon of justice, not a sanctuary for those

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<v Speaker 1>who exploit and abuse. Make it clear to President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and the world that pardoning Glaine Maxwell would be a

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<v Speaker 1>grave injustice, that Britain will not tolerate. What they should

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<v Speaker 1>do is open a case against Maxwell and try her

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<v Speaker 1>over there as well. Pretty simple right that way, If

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<v Speaker 1>she gets pardoned, she can't go back to the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>She'll go to prison. And frankly, if New York was

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<v Speaker 1>worth their weight in salt, they'd already have a dual

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<v Speaker 1>sovereignty case opened on Glenn Maxwell. But the unfortunate truth

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<v Speaker 1>is the vast majority of people who say they care don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Burnham has agreed to meet Epstein victims, but is not

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<v Speaker 1>considering holding a public inquiry into the pedophile's UK activities.

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<v Speaker 1>Downing Street confirm this month. Couvin, who represented Epstein victims

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<v Speaker 1>since two thousand and six, called on the PM to

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<v Speaker 1>support an independent statutory inquiry into Epstein and say publicly

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<v Speaker 1>if credible evidence exists that anyone participated in the financiers' crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>The attorney added that the survivors are extremely concerned by

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<v Speaker 1>tak Maxwell could be pardoned after her lawyers said she

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<v Speaker 1>would only cooperate with the investigations into Epstein's crimes if

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<v Speaker 1>granted clemency. She has nothing left to give. How many

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<v Speaker 1>times will I have to say it? She's burned as

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<v Speaker 1>a witness. Can you imagine Mark Agnafilo or Tenny Garrigos

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<v Speaker 1>getting their hands on Maxwell on the stand, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of lawyer she'd be dealing with. What if

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<v Speaker 1>she named somebody like I don't know, Leon Black. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Leon Black would show up to court with

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers that are looking to eat Maxwell up. Queen perjury herself.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, man, stop bullshitting around. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people that have no idea what they're talking about, who

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<v Speaker 1>really love to hear themselves talk. Coovin told Metro victims

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<v Speaker 1>should never be placed in the position of wondering whether

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<v Speaker 1>the person convicted of helping facilitate their abuse might be

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<v Speaker 1>freed because she has information that powerful people want. That

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<v Speaker 1>would send a terrible message to trafficking survivors everywhere us.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether Burnham could persuade Trump not to pardon Maxwell, the

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer said, Britain absolutely has a voice. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they'd be able to convince Trump of anything. We all

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<v Speaker 1>know that Donald Trump's going to do whatever he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to do. He doesn't give a damn what allies think,

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<v Speaker 1>what you think, what I think? Hell, what is base thinks?

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<v Speaker 1>The man's gonna do whatever he wants to do, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like he's running for office ever. Again, he added,

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<v Speaker 1>I would encourage Prime Minister Burnham and his government to

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<v Speaker 1>communicate directly to President Trump that clemency from Maxwell would

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<v Speaker 1>have consequences far beyond American politics. Like that sounds great,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know what kind of leverage they have.

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<v Speaker 1>What could the UK use his leverage against Trump. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think there's much, Couvin continued. The Prime Minister could

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<v Speaker 1>say publicly and privately that Britain believes Maxwell should serve

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<v Speaker 1>the sentence imposed upon her, Well, that would be cool,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be nice. I don't think they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>The lawyer said that there are still questions British institutions

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<v Speaker 1>have to answer about how Epstein was able to operate

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<v Speaker 1>for so long in plain sight, while surrounded by some

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<v Speaker 1>of the most powerful people in the world. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>really a question that has to be asked no matter

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<v Speaker 1>where Epstein was, whether it's the UK, whether it's France,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's Eastern Europe, whether it's America. Wherever this man was,

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<v Speaker 1>a trail of tears followed, and it's not even up

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<v Speaker 1>for debate like you can debate the trafficking portion of it,

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<v Speaker 1>like how vast that was, how many people were involved,

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<v Speaker 1>because as I've always told you, it wasn't like this

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<v Speaker 1>gigantic club where girls were being trafficked all over the

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<v Speaker 1>world to a whole bunch of different people. It was

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<v Speaker 1>select company, and only very few people that were close

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<v Speaker 1>to Epstein or that Epstein was trying to bring into

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<v Speaker 1>the fold were provided with that quote unquote benefit. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what Jeffrey Epstein was up to. It wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>Heidi Flice cat house where he's selling girls on backpage

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<v Speaker 1>and haveing them go walk the blade. That was never

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<v Speaker 1>what he was doing. And there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>that still don't understand exactly what was going down. The

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<v Speaker 1>Senate unanimously passed a resolution last month declaring its opposition

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<v Speaker 1>to any presidential pardon for Maxwell, who was repeatedly denied

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<v Speaker 1>all wrongdoing. Yeah. Well, every single court in the land,

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<v Speaker 1>including the Court of Public Opinion, has told Glenn Maxwell,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want to hear from her anymore. Shut up,

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<v Speaker 1>do your sentence, and then disappear because nobody wants to

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<v Speaker 1>hear your yapper. Senator Jackie Rosen a Democrat of Nevada

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<v Speaker 1>said at the time, it's frankly horrifying that Trump would

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<v Speaker 1>entertain the idea of clemency for even a second for

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<v Speaker 1>a convicted sex trafficker. Look. I'm not a big fan

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<v Speaker 1>of Jackie Rosen. I live in Nevada, not exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>I would call a great representative, but she's not wrong here.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the thought of giving Glane Maxwell a pardon is despicable,

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<v Speaker 1>never mind going through with it. A government spokesperson said,

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<v Speaker 1>our thoughts are firmly with the victims of Jeffrey Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>who have suffered devastating trauma, and it is right that

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<v Speaker 1>Glane Maxwell has been handed out a twenty year prison

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<v Speaker 1>sentence for her role. The Prime Minister is committed to

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<v Speaker 1>meeting with victims. We're looking at all options to support them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's great, but how about we put a little

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<v Speaker 1>walk behind the talk, because that's what we need, right

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<v Speaker 1>We need people that are going to stand down business

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<v Speaker 1>and people that aren't scared to dig into the deep

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<v Speaker 1>corners and go into the shadows because that's where the

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<v Speaker 1>story is. Is the British government going to be that

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<v Speaker 1>group of people? I have my doubts, but like usual,

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<v Speaker 1>will be here every step of the way, following along,

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<v Speaker 1>and when there's some new information to share, we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>it added to the catalog. Until then, that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it for this one. All the information that goes

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