Speaker 1: So you've made it through three hours of the regular
show on terrestrial radio, and you wanted a little bit more.
Speaker 2: So that's why you found the gun Talk After Show podcast,
where we saved all the best things.
Speaker 3: That we can't say on regular radio.
Speaker 1: Now here's Tom, Michelle and Jim for the gun Talk
after Show.
Speaker 4: Okay, we are starting the after show here because we
got Jim and Michelle and we're.
Speaker 5: Having our own no party, guys. That's right, the after
Show squared.
Speaker 4: Good lord, if only people could hear what goes on
before we start hitting the record button.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how much of anything?
Speaker 4: Yeah, not much of anything, my gosh, and we'll never tell.
So there's that part right, oh hey before we forget.
Speaker 5: And you mentioned it in the National Show, all right,
p Lindsay Graham.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly right, you know. And look, I'm on X
and people are but he did this, he did that.
I get it. He's a politician. We're not going to
like everything he did. And you may say, I really
don't like that guy. Okay, cool, But he was thirty
three years in the Air Force after Beauty and Reserves
and I think Air National Guard as well. He served
his country as a US senator, he when his parents died,
he was in college and he single handedly raised his
thirteen year old sister, younger sister. And the other thing
is it just occurred to me because there's this famous
speech of him he gave during the Brett Kavanaugh hearing,
and he stopped the assault on Brett Kavanaugh and got
Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court. And without Brett Kavanaugh,
we would not have had the two Supreme Court decisions.
We just had the Second Amendment and we wouldn't have
the AR fifteen case going to the Supreme Court. So
whatever else you think about Lindsey Graham, and there are
a lot of thoughts about it, he did some good
things for us on the Second.
Speaker 1: Amendment side, and he did what he was supposed to
do work across the parties.
Speaker 3: I mean, we might not like it, but that's that's
the way it goes.
Speaker 4: And he wasn't solid on the Second Mement either. I
mean he he you know, supported some gun control stuff.
So it's like, Okay, he wasn't perfect like a lot
of them art but well.
Speaker 2: Wait a second, if I can't have everything, I won't
take anything time.
Speaker 4: Well, also, it's a it's a really good chance to
bash somebody who just died.
Speaker 5: So yeah, the honorable things.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, real classy people. Good lord, you know, give
it twenty four to forty eight hours, would you Nope? Nope, nope, nope,
not going to do that.
Speaker 5: Sure there were memes within five minutes.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely, It's just all over the place. That's fine,
you know, okay, he he has passed on. I don't
know what's going to happen in South Carolina and the
Senate race, and that'll be you know out there affective
deals right now people talk about it. But yes, a
rest and feasts and you.
Speaker 5: Know, thinking about throwing your hat and ring Gresham.
Speaker 3: Is you got to move again though?
Speaker 5: South Carolina?
Speaker 3: How many commute? How long they have to be there
before you can?
Speaker 4: Not only can I not run office, I can't even
walk for office. Yeah right now.
Speaker 1: Oh I can't even roll over.
Speaker 4: When I go out. This back a couple of days ago.
It's like, and I was going to go shoot in
our local steel challenge yesterday. I was ready to go,
and you know, of course I was going to smoke
every No, actually I wasn't.
Speaker 5: It's okay, yeah, they always they always need target holders.
Speaker 3: But they're still.
Speaker 4: I could hide behind them, right. Just hope people are good.
Speaker 3: Shots, right, don't worry about anything deflecting.
Speaker 4: It's fine, it'll be fine. Have you ever Okay, I
know you have because you shot a bunch. When you're
shooting steel, we're out of the range, we're you know,
doing stuff for video. We're painting the targets and all
that made the mistake of putting the can of paint
right on the ground, right next to the steel target.
Speaker 3: I don't know where this is going, because.
Speaker 4: I can't be the only one who did that. And
you shoot a steel target in the shrap goes down
and hits the paint can and it just starts spraying
and going all over the place because you have now punctured,
just pressurized paint can.
Speaker 3: Well, instead of auto reset, you have auto repaint. Oh
I like that.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: Save myself a walk down there.
Speaker 4: It is certainly a really forceful demonstration of what happens
when a bullet hits steel.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, folks in Saginaw, Michigan in the mid eighties, so
I had a rash of colored snow nobody could figure out.
Speaker 5: But that's that's where I was from.
Speaker 2: Let's go buy a case of spray paint, set it
up on tree stumps and see if we can hit
it from hundred yards.
Speaker 4: Okay, it was beautiful. It was beautiful. Oh man, that's
just beautiful.
Speaker 5: Stupid and irresponsible, but it was beautiful at the time.
Speaker 4: Well, depending on where you are, it's not gonna hurt anything.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: We do have some cool video of Ryan one time
shooting a can of shaving oheah, oh yeah, which is
really fun. But the problem is he didn't check the
wind first and he got covered with shaving cream.
Speaker 5: Good out.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's a great outtake.
Speaker 1: I love it. It wasn't a close enough you already
had five o'clock shadow going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah really, But you know, if you just want a
fun target, assuming you're at a range where you can
do this outdoor range, right, a can of shaving cream,
you get back oh wait, he figure twenty thirty feet
at least, and whack it. It just makes a great cloud.
It's tons of fun. Just go to the dollar store obviously,
pick up your trash, and you know the next rain
will wash away all the soapy pomy stuff. Anyway, I
like fun targets. I like react to targets. Now, don't
take it too far. I'm sure you've all seen the
videos of people shooting Tanner right that they put inside
a refrigerator or something.
Speaker 5: There's sixty pounds of Tanner writing inside this Volkswagen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and now the parts fly right back at you
past the camera. I mean, take your head off, yep, geez. Anyway,
So don't.
Speaker 5: Do that for great TV though, Tom.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we remember him when he got that great video and.
Speaker 5: A lot of employee turnover.
Speaker 4: But oh, have you guys seen it? I think it
just came out today, the video of the latest Turan
in the Yellowstone tourist.
Speaker 5: Tourists, Moron no Turan.
Speaker 4: The guy that got caught by the buffalo.
Speaker 1: You saw that, Michelle, Yeah, sixty two year old, you know,
like eight nine feet up in the area.
Speaker 4: Got I mean, he threw this guy way up in
the end.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But supposedly he and his grandson were walking down the road.
Stop looked at him. They were They weren't on top
of him.
Speaker 4: No, they weren't.
Speaker 3: They were you know, he was.
Speaker 1: Rolling around the bison, was rolling around in a sand pit.
And I didn't like him, I guess because they continued walking.
Speaker 3: He charged me and this.
Speaker 4: And he ran all around this tree getting away from
the bison chased him, finally caught him and flipped him
way up in the air. And I guess he's pretty
severely injured.
Speaker 5: Think, my gosh, surprised you alive?
Speaker 4: No kidding, you know. And let me just tell you,
if you're going to carry a gun for a bison,
you better have a big gun for phys or something
big animals, like two thousand pounds.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm I'm not quite sure you'd be doing that
in the National Park.
Speaker 4: It is actually illegal to carry you international.
Speaker 1: Well, but I mean, could you imagine the scattering people
and everything, like to be fully aware of what's going
on and where you're standing and where everybody else is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're really it's probably better off to try to
travel with somebody who's just a little slower than you are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tom, will you carry the marshmallow fluff for me?
Then you can't run.
Speaker 4: Today, I would be the slower person, exactly right. That's right.
It's better today than it was yesterday, but it's still
not great. So there you go.
Speaker 2: Wood County, Ohio is adjacent to our county here, and
they have a massa I don't know it's a number
one in the US, but it is a huge bison
farming industry. I mean it's it's a meat meat industry, okay,
and it's wonderful. It's good meat and pizza and sick.
You never heard of it, Oh you never wanted, you
know what? Steak again.
Speaker 3: It's really good, tasty, not fatty.
Speaker 4: Our favorite restaurant here is an Italian restaurant called Regazza
to Buffalo, and they specialized in bison meat in Italian dishes.
Let me tell you, bison lasagna is fat.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, gotta run both Jimmy and are like, oh
look at me, I'm not making it and.
Speaker 5: Goes on commercial break. I'm running downstairs.
Speaker 3: For whatever reason, they got on napkins and a fork.
What is going on? Come from?
Speaker 5: That's our cue.
Speaker 4: You've got to cut the ature short today. We've got
to go cook some bison.
Speaker 1: So in the parks with that kind of thing, they
don't go after the animals like they would in other places. Right,
what do you mean, like to hunt down the bison
and eliminate them.
Speaker 4: They I don't think so. Yeah, I mean, well I
don't think so. It's not like it's not like the
bison is stalking people. It's just it's just being a bison,
is it.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't think I think it's wrong.
Speaker 4: I think it's just.
Speaker 3: In a bad mood, you know, just crabby hot.
Speaker 4: I said, I'm hot. They all this fur on me.
It's Summer's terrible.
Speaker 3: They are massive, they are incredible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you get one, you know, and you
can't hunt them, you can go shoot one and then
you got meet for five years, right, gotta be like
three freezers worth when you get one of those things.
Speaker 3: Slightly bigger than your freight train.
Speaker 4: Yes, because I know how big a moose is, and
this is probably four times bigger in terms of how
much meat you get.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: But like you say, but good, there you go. We had,
actually we had moose tacos last night. Yeah, that was good.
Speaker 3: What did you do with the handlers?
Speaker 4: The handlers are beneath the deck. It's been almost a
year now. I'm thinking that maybe most of the gunk
is off of I got to boil out the skull
plate so I can put it on a board or
something quick.
Speaker 3: Figure out what we're gonna do with it.
Speaker 5: Keeps the bear out from under the deck, does it.
Speaker 4: Well, actually I wondered about that. When we got the
picture of the bear right underneath the deck, I thought, well,
was he backer trying to get the But the only
reason I say this is because we have a friend
we hunt with and he got his first elk and
he has elk rack behind his shed drying, and came
home and the rack was gone and there was a
big pile of bear crap right there. Bear had taken it.
We have this image of the bear out in the
woods playing with this there. Oh look at me, I'm
an elk.
Speaker 5: He didn't take the poop Taxi duramsteady, so all I
got left? Can you do anything with this?
Speaker 3: This is just a deposit?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I need a break.
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Speaker 4: Oh do we mention that Michelle's fired.
Speaker 3: I'm going on them, by y'all.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying that we had a couple of callers
that did not make air here.
Speaker 5: Lift standards.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, we may have low standards, but they
were able to step underneath its Okay, oh gosh, yeah.
Not everybody gets the air just saying okay.
Speaker 5: Wow, the three of us do because nobody's the boss
worth we're the ones setting the reference point. That's kind
of scary.
Speaker 4: They got Collars said, I want to be the decider
if they're going to decide what you need. He says,
I want to be on the deciding committee, right.
Speaker 3: And you don't want me to decide for you communists?
Speaker 4: I did like that, Are you a communist?
Speaker 5: I'm going to use that.
Speaker 4: That is good when somebody says, well, why do you
need it, such as such, are you a communist?
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 4: That's what comedists say. You don't need that, comrade, okay,
pretty not up to the government to tell me what
I need. Thank you very much, man, have it. So
I got a new pistol in and unfortunately not been
able to shoot it because I was going to take
it to the Steel Challenge yesterday. It is the Cult
Custom Limited. It's their custom shop nineteen eleven. Commander stupid.
Speaker 1: I mean we could if you want to ship it
out to Ohio, we could probably take it out and
let you know how it goes.
Speaker 4: Well, if you guys hold on, I can to step
outside it and just fire a few shots up in
the air with it being.
Speaker 3: Called that's a great thing to do.
Speaker 4: Everybody would just think it's high. He's just shooting that bear.
Speaker 3: It's okay, right, or is it an milk?
Speaker 4: It's a bear wearing elk.
Speaker 3: It's a belk.
Speaker 4: He looks like a little guy who is like boo
boo bear out there. But I still don't want to
run into him.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: We did kind of figure out like it's just he's
just was going from trash can to trash skin, knocking
them all over. We're out there picking up the trash.
Next morning, boy.
Speaker 3: You put an electric fence around your deck.
Speaker 4: I actually thought about I have a full automatic BB gun.
I'm just thinking I could have twenty five rapid fire
shots that rear end by getting moving.
Speaker 3: I might make you mad.
Speaker 4: Well, there's that too, could go either way.
Speaker 3: Hard to say.
Speaker 4: That's when you roll up the window of your car
and drive off right drive by bear shooting.
Speaker 2: I actually was going to have new theme music today,
time for you, but I just couldn't pull it together
in time. Let's tell I'm going to audition this is crude,
but I'm going to audition this. Tell me you think
that's right. If you throw out your back, you could
become a national radio talk show host on the topic
of guns and firearms.
Speaker 5: Here's Tom Gresham.
Speaker 4: You clearly have way too much time on your hand.
Don't you have.
Speaker 3: Something to be doing over there?
Speaker 5: You can't pay it for this.
Speaker 4: And now we're gonna have to pay some kind of
stupid royalty.
Speaker 2: For me music so much of it In court I
could say, yeah, but I was cheap shotting and for
hurting his back, and the judge would understand that's right.
Speaker 4: It's a parody account. And besides, didn't you out over
the broadcast? Right?
Speaker 5: Right, right, right?
Speaker 4: So I'll just played it for the two people who
listened to the after show.
Speaker 5: It's for both our fans.
Speaker 4: That's right, exactly right. So let's see on the subject
of bad backs. Actually is one of the instructors at
a gun site was telling me he's gone to lighter
weight guns as he got older because he bore a
gun for thirty years as a police officer, and thinking,
you know, there are a lot of really nice lightweight
guns out now. You think of the shield and m
p shield, the Ruger Max nine, all of those are
very light polymer guns.
Speaker 1: Well, you get the RXm and you can customize that
a lot to what you want.
Speaker 2: You again, Yeah, that's funny. Ten years ago you would
this new three sixty five.
Speaker 5: Is crazy still the number one gun.
Speaker 3: So ten years is that crazy?
Speaker 5: It has been that lit don close?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was before it was far before COVID happened,
So yeah, it's probably been. It's probably been eight ten years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and what a terrific platform reset the category really.
Speaker 2: Yes, well it kind of got jump started I think
by the LCP and then two different things I realized.
But the LCP can say, wow, you can make something
that still shoots smaller. So then three sixty five was
a game changer as far as I'm concering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's one and a half of a double
stack yep, yeah, yeah, we're yeah, ten.
Speaker 4: Twelve or even fifteen rounds. Yeah, So just it's a
different deal and it is a great carry gun. And
then you got what the Springfield hellthat and then it
was like everybody had one right and they're all you
know what, they're all better than they were. They all
all of them had pretty decent triggers. I mean, none
of them are really nice nineteen eleven triggers, but they're
all pretty decent these days.
Speaker 5: But overall quality, you can't.
Speaker 2: You can't put out a lousy gun now because of
the competition.
Speaker 5: I mean, you can get one hundred and fifty dollars
pistol that's decent. You really can't.
Speaker 2: You can't have a well it's low cost, So we'll
just throw out some junk guns, right you could forty
years ago.
Speaker 4: Well, and people didn't have a way to share the information. Well,
now you get hammered online if you put out a
piece of junk people know about it.
Speaker 5: Now you get hammered on line that people who never
touched the product or so.
Speaker 4: There's that too. Yes, you know, I would never I'd
never buy one of those. Have you ever seen one?
Well no, but I wouldn't buy one.
Speaker 3: Okay, are you a shooter?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Eight guns? Okay?
Speaker 2: Okay, So technically, yeah, you're right, you never would buy
one of those.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was, he was correct all the way or
anything else?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, you know. People say, well, you know,
nobody needs a corvette. Well, actually you're probably right about that. Fortunately,
that's really not a criteria at all. Just can I
afford it? Okay, or at least can I afford it
along with the bank until the bank gets tired of
me not making the payments?
Speaker 5: Nice, Yeah, there's that, But you can.
Speaker 4: Get what three four months before the repossessed something like that.
Speaker 5: Sure, and if you move it around, at least.
Speaker 2: In my experience, that's what The way we do it
here is.
Speaker 3: At my buddy's house. It's at the hangars.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: It's funny. I am not really a car guy, and
something like a Corvette I think they're cool. I love
to look at him. No interest in owning anything like that.
But you talk to me about like a forty or
fifty year old Toyota FJ forty you know land.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4: Oh, land Rovers, things like that.
Speaker 5: Why do you need that grass?
Speaker 4: Well, fortunately I don't. And the fact that I don't
turn wrenches tells me that I don't need one of
those either, because you've got to be able to work
on something like that.
Speaker 5: So we can rule out gunsmithing.
Speaker 4: Yes, we have ruled that one out a long long
time ago. I'm a box aparts kind of gunsmith, that's
for sure.
Speaker 3: You're left over with the box aparts.
Speaker 4: I take I take it to Michelle's husband.
Speaker 2: Can you put this back to the other That's what
I did when I upgraded my UH optic on.
Speaker 5: I jogged apart and I forgot to put the extractor back.
Speaker 2: And I told chat, I said, you know, sometimes it shoots,
sometimes extracts, sometimes it doesn't. He's like, I probably extract
more consistently if you put the extractor back.
Speaker 4: An extractor, I don't know, just saying, get a dude,
but I could take a screwdriver and stuff it in
there and pop that shell right out.
Speaker 5: It's convenient. Oh my, it's on the line. Hang out
a second. I gotta get out of this jeweler screw drive.
Speaker 4: I am sure Michelle that gunsmith could just tell all
sorts of stories about what comes in.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, and it used to be a lot of
them started. I watched this guy on YouTube. It's like,
just bring me, just bring me the box or the
ziplug baggy or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: You have everything contained in.
Speaker 4: Try to round up all the parts.
Speaker 5: Please lift up your couch because there's going to be
a spring under it.
Speaker 1: Right well, or you know, people try to not tell
the rest of the story.
Speaker 3: Or the whole story to a buddy, and this is
how I got it back.
Speaker 5: Here's the level I'm willing to admit to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and I wonder do they ever come
back in such a form that you just say, yeah,
I'm sorry, this cannot be fixed. We're gonna have to
trash it.
Speaker 3: You're missing too many parts or can't.
Speaker 4: Found, or maybe you run into a drimbal tool gunsmith.
Oh mean you can ruin a gun on a hurry
with a drimble tool. Yep, but at least it's quickly efficient.
Speaker 5: Now, when I dropped that gun off, I swore it
had a beaver tail.
Speaker 4: We're short, met little bit, it doesn't matter, so okay.
So I'm kind of collecting a bunch of nine millimeter
carry guns. I got the Dan Weston Guardian, which is
their lightweight commander, and then I just got the Dan
Weston DWX, really nice pistol, kind of a goofy combination gun.
Speaker 5: And then this Colt.
Speaker 4: So you know, I've got all the plastic guns. I'm
kind of going through some of the metal guns right now,
alloy and steel, just trying different ones, having a bunch
of fun around here.
Speaker 3: Cool sounds like a terrible job.
Speaker 2: Let us let us know how the back heels throughout
the week. I'm worried about that.
Speaker 4: Oh it'll be fine, it's yea. I've had it before.
The worst that hit me was actually on a mountain
in Alaska on a sheep hunter. I was actually directing
a TV show. I wouldn't hunter and bit over to
pick up a pair of socks and just bang. I
was literally on my back for forty eight hours, and
then when it was time to leave, had to pack
everything up in the backpack and put it on my
back and climb out of the mountain. I just went around.
All right, everybody gives me all your pain meds that
you have.
Speaker 3: I'm taking them, all right, Or I'll tell you what.
You carry this bag and I'll meet you down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody had a bag to carry. That was the
whole thing.
Speaker 3: Oh oh man, Yeah.
Speaker 4: You just living off of vitamin and eye. Give me
some ivy program.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some heat nice.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm heading for right now.
Speaker 7: Yeah heat nice. Alternate there you go. We'll care for it,
will you. I will take care of that because I
got guns to choose. Man, sir, Well, you guys have
a wonderful week and mention Michelle, you're fired.
Speaker 3: Hi everybody.
Speaker 5: Yeah, now he's going to run for president. Padge, have
a great.
Speaker 3: Week, by too.
Speaker 1: We'll catch you next time for the gun talk after show,
said