Speaker 1: Ben.
Speaker 2: The movie we're reviewing this week is Good Fortune, and
Speaker 2: I think the question that most people were asking themselves
Speaker 2: after this movie. If you had everything in the world,
Speaker 2: everything you wanted, but you knew it was the right
Speaker 2: thing to do, to give it up and go back
Speaker 2: to a life where you knew it was going to
Speaker 2: be hard, would you be strong enough to be able
Speaker 2: to do it? There's a lot of questions I had
Speaker 2: throughout this film. That was the question I was left with,
Speaker 2: and I don't know how I would answer it. And
Speaker 2: I think we're going to get into that today on
Speaker 2: answering that question and a few others, a few other
Speaker 2: ethical questions, a few other questions about the commentary that
Speaker 2: this movie made, that this film made about socioeconomical roles
Speaker 2: in our society and the way capitalism has worked. And
Speaker 2: what do they call it the economy right now?
Speaker 1: What do they call it?
Speaker 2: It's a certain name. Starts the gig economy.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the gig economy. Yeah sure.
Speaker 2: A lot of stuff about the gig economy in this
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Oh sure.
Speaker 2: So. While on the surface this film seems pretty straightforward
Speaker 2: as a comedy, there's a lot of underthlying themes here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just took the words right out of my mouth.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, not too often you walk
Speaker 1: out of a comedy movie saying, you know, I have
Speaker 1: a bunch of interesting philosophical questions that I'm going to
Speaker 1: run past you, of course the next hour. And yet
Speaker 1: here we are talking about it that way, and I
Speaker 1: think you're exactly right with it. You know what's interesting
Speaker 1: is you even gave me a heads up, and I
Speaker 1: braced myself for it, and I wasn't necessarily expecting it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't laugh a whole lot. And it's not to
Speaker 1: say it wasn't entertaining or I didn't enjoy it, but
Speaker 1: there were moments that I laughed out loud, and just
Speaker 1: like with a lot of movies in the Midwest, I
Speaker 1: was laughing at times when people were relatively quiet. Oh
Speaker 1: Ye'll be sitting there holding my sides a little bit
Speaker 1: laughing at some of the things that happened. But definitely
Speaker 1: not a bust your gut laughing kind of movie, but
Speaker 1: definitely something that I think anybody between the ages of
Speaker 1: alive and dead can probably too.
Speaker 2: Right now at least at some point in yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: If not right now, then definitely at one point or another,
Speaker 1: and as somebody who absolutely utilized the gig economy in
Speaker 1: the way a lot of those companies tell you to
Speaker 1: do so. I was a radio producer, while managing a property,
Speaker 1: while driving for Uber, lifting door Dash, and while having
Speaker 1: five other sources of income to kind of get this
Speaker 1: career off the ground. I can relate. And what's interesting
Speaker 1: is and that this was the thought that I had
Speaker 1: walking out of it. I have a memory like a
Speaker 1: steel trap that life was three years ago, and it
Speaker 1: feels like it was another person's life for me. Really
Speaker 1: watching what I saw, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I forgot that. I almost I felt this way every
Speaker 1: single day while living my life because I'm in such
Speaker 1: a better mental state now. And it's uh, this is
Speaker 1: probably the third or fourth movie balky. I was joking
Speaker 1: about it with our coworker Laura. I said, I don't
Speaker 1: know why. I know it was Carly and I said,
Speaker 1: why do we keep going to these movies? I said,
Speaker 1: I watched these movies to escape. This is the third
Speaker 1: or fourth time in the last five six movies, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm gonna be using this for content
Speaker 1: and outside the box tomorrow. And sure enough, I started
Speaker 1: my show off today talking about Good Fortune and the
Speaker 1: messages of that movie, which is very ironic.
Speaker 2: I I think that I got I got the phone call.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's we'll be right back, guys.
Speaker 2: The other thing with this film that I noticed, and
Speaker 2: you talked about not laughing a lot out loud, Yeah,
Speaker 2: a few times you did. I felt like it was
Speaker 2: weird with the type of actor and comedian that is
Speaker 2: he's in sorry is and his voice. Yeah, there were
Speaker 2: times where I think that you weren't meant to laugh,
Speaker 2: but it almost came off comical because he's got like
Speaker 2: this kid kid's voice, and he's super bubbly and peppy
Speaker 2: and and that, and that was a little off putting
Speaker 2: to me in this you know, where he's like, well, well,
Speaker 2: now what am I gonna do? Yeah, I'm living in
Speaker 2: my car. You know. It's like it's hilarious, but it's not,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, So that was a little weird for
Speaker 2: me to get used to in this film. And we'll
Speaker 2: talk about these ethical questions in a little bit. When
Speaker 2: I was on your show the other day, one of
Speaker 2: the things I wanted to ask you about is Keanu
Speaker 2: Reeves a good actor. What did you think of his
Speaker 2: performance in this film where yes it was a comedy,
Speaker 2: Yes he had comedic moments, but I just felt it's
Speaker 2: so robotic with him. I mean, he is like a
Speaker 2: Westworld robot when it comes to acting, and I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's by design. I don't know if he
Speaker 2: has a limited range, and yet he keeps getting gigs, Ben, Yeah,
Speaker 2: keeps getting significant gigs.
Speaker 1: You know. I went into this looking for that because
Speaker 1: I have been not a hater of Keanu Reeves, because honestly,
Speaker 1: I like just about every single movie he's in, Like,
Speaker 1: and that's not even a bold statement, Like most movies
Speaker 1: Keanu Reeves does. Like No, that was a pretty good movie,
Speaker 1: and so like whether or not that has to do
Speaker 1: with him or not, I don't know. I went into
Speaker 1: this movie and first of all, I don't this isn't
Speaker 1: a spoiler, but the hardest I laughed. He eventually becomes
Speaker 1: a cook era a dishwasher at a restaurant. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: there's a scene where he's saying nothing and he's smoking
Speaker 1: a cigarette and staring into the void.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I had to do a double take him, like
Speaker 2: is he smoking a cigarette? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And the look on his face. If you've ever worked
Speaker 1: at a restaurant before, you have seen that person smoking
Speaker 1: a cigarette outside at the restaurant. I've seen it a
Speaker 1: thousand times. Anyone has seen it. It is the hardest
Speaker 1: I laughed in the whole movie. And you know, he
Speaker 1: worked on that face and that mannerism and that approach.
Speaker 1: So that one scene, I'm like, okay, good acting. Everything
Speaker 1: outside of that one moment was this.
Speaker 2: Why are you talking about the no Bueno scene?
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, yes, And he's sitting there smoking and he's
Speaker 1: just like staring off into this distance. He's not even
Speaker 1: saying anything, but it's just the stare of someone that
Speaker 1: just washed dishes for five hours. As someone that was
Speaker 1: a dishwasher, I can tell you I know that's stare.
Speaker 1: I know that cigarette after the dinner rush that you smoke.
Speaker 1: I know everything about that, and I'm watching it. I'm
Speaker 1: watching that. That was the best acting he did in
Speaker 1: the whole movie. I will say, I do think the
Speaker 1: robotic delivery he struck me. And tell me if you
Speaker 1: think this is crazy, he struck me. The character that
Speaker 1: I think he was trying to convey is an angel
Speaker 1: that has been around for so long that him engaging
Speaker 1: in English and talking to humans and like interacting in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five America, it almost felt like a very
Speaker 1: naive like like the best way I can describe is
Speaker 1: this sounded like he was acting in a play while
Speaker 1: everybody else was acting in a movie. Yes, and I
Speaker 1: think that's the best way that I can describe either. Yes.
Speaker 1: But to me, what I walked out it was I
Speaker 1: was trying to think of it because there's a there's
Speaker 1: a have you ever seen the TV show Community?
Speaker 2: I have seen episodes.
Speaker 1: Yes, there's an episode where Ahbed takes a class and
Speaker 1: the entire class is dedicated to determining whether or not
Speaker 1: Nicholas k is a good actor. And he essentially runs
Speaker 1: the gamut of all these different actors. And he describes
Speaker 1: Johnny Depp as the bad kind of good, meaning he's
Speaker 1: a great actor, but like a he seems obnoxious in
Speaker 1: a lot to handle. Keanu Reeves is the good kind
Speaker 1: of bad. I think he's very likable. I think he's
Speaker 1: very charismatic. I don't know that he's a good actor,
Speaker 1: but his personality in every movie he's in, I'm just like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm down to ride. Let's see where this goes.
Speaker 2: I mean, I even I was thinking back to John
Speaker 2: Wick when we were watching the John Wick movies in Ballerina.
Speaker 2: I mean he has this like halting way of stilted
Speaker 2: almost stilted, yeah, way of talking in that too, yes,
Speaker 2: which I don't know if it like. I mean, it
Speaker 2: was a little distracting in this film. I guess mostly
Speaker 2: because I thought he'd be he'd be a human, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, which is funny because he's not human. He's
Speaker 2: not an angel.
Speaker 1: Do you question Christopher watkins ability as an actor?
Speaker 2: It? I don't. I don't know if this is gonna
Speaker 2: sound like this may sound hypocritical, but I feel like
Speaker 2: his is more natural.
Speaker 1: Okay, I just it is him. It feels like it's him,
Speaker 1: but he's not acting like I think it's Christopher walking
Speaker 1: playing a scene in a movie.
Speaker 2: He speaks the same way in almost every movie. I
Speaker 2: like his performances too, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's why I brought it up.
Speaker 2: I think they're less distracting than Keanu Reeves. Really, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just I don't. I don't know. It's an interesting comparison,
Speaker 2: for sure. I just feel I don't know. I just
Speaker 2: it's it's more human with walking, you know, it's it's
Speaker 2: it was so robotic with Keanu Reeves. It is And
Speaker 2: I say it like it sounds hypocritical because they do
Speaker 2: very similar sticks, you know, and and it is what
Speaker 2: it is, Okay, So so go ahead.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. I will say another comparison I
Speaker 1: was making in my head. Who caught us off guard
Speaker 1: was Liam Neeson in Uh Naked Gun the remake. He
Speaker 1: is not a traditionally comical actor, just like Keanu Reeves,
Speaker 1: I think, and he felt much more natural in the
Speaker 1: position that he was in.
Speaker 2: Yes he did. But I do think that he was
Speaker 2: chosen for that role. And I'm sure he picked the
Speaker 2: role in part because he is supposed to play it
Speaker 2: off as a serious actor, as a straight guy in
Speaker 2: a in a in a comedy, whereas I don't get
Speaker 2: I don't get that feeling.
Speaker 1: No, not at all. That was not the point of
Speaker 1: his role in this movie.
Speaker 2: I do like the relationship between Rogan and I'm sorry here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're characters, the Rogan, I mean like sort of like
Speaker 2: at the end, you get all three of these characters
Speaker 2: sort of together briefly. Yeah, But the majority of the movie,
Speaker 2: it always seems like it's two of these guys dominating
Speaker 2: every scene where it's in and Rogan, where it's Reeves
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry, where it's Reeves and Rogan, you know,
Speaker 2: And it was different in each one, and it was
Speaker 2: cool to see, you know, them play off each other,
Speaker 2: especially Reeves, who's not a comedic guy, and the other
Speaker 2: two guys, I mean, one's a comedic actor and the
Speaker 2: other one is a comedian, stand up comedian, So you know,
Speaker 2: they they know the value of timing, they know the
Speaker 2: value of how to deliver a joke properly, how to
Speaker 2: set up a joke where I don't think Reeves maybe
Speaker 2: he knows how to do that, but we haven't really
Speaker 2: seen it on the screen, the big screen throughout his career.
Speaker 2: That was the highlight of the acting for me. We
Speaker 2: talked about this briefly and sorry's direct directorial debut, which
Speaker 2: I didn't realize this was it. I thought it was good.
Speaker 2: I thought it was very cool. I thought the choices
Speaker 2: that he made were not all that unpredictable. But I
Speaker 2: think he told the story the way that the story
Speaker 2: needed to be told. I think he scentuated it with
Speaker 2: certain things that you know, active viewing would have showed
Speaker 2: you like, oh yeah, this this, this really drives it
Speaker 2: home here and and encouraging. I. I you know, I've
Speaker 2: never really been a huge I thought this season sorry,
Speaker 2: was pretty funny on Parks and racktell Yes, outside of that,
Speaker 2: I've never watched like Master of None or any of
Speaker 2: his stand ups or whatever.
Speaker 1: Thirty Minutes or less was very funny. Jesse Eisenberg and
Speaker 1: Danny McBride and Nick Swartz and they put a bomb
Speaker 1: on Jesse Eisenberger delivery guy. Yeah, yes, that was actually
Speaker 1: and to be perfectly frank, essentially the same message that
Speaker 1: he's worked as a delivery driver and you know, life
Speaker 1: isn't working out the way he needs it to. And
Speaker 1: even the criminals in that movie are trying to prove
Speaker 1: themselves to their parents that they can make it economically
Speaker 1: in this society. And that movie's a decade old and
Speaker 1: very similar ideas. For sure.
Speaker 2: What what was the app that he was using? Task something?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like it was like text or it
Speaker 1: was like there there's a there's a real like task
Speaker 1: rab Bit is the real life.
Speaker 2: So that was a fake app, but that it's based
Speaker 2: off of a real one.
Speaker 1: Yes, because I've up work is when I've actually been
Speaker 1: on Upward. I've heard of Upward. Yes, there's a number
Speaker 1: of those out there.
Speaker 2: So essentially, just to set this plot up for for everybody,
Speaker 2: and sorry, is this struggling guy. I believe he has
Speaker 2: a college degree, master's degree, Yeah, but he can't do
Speaker 2: anything with it, and and so he has to take
Speaker 2: these odd jobs. He can't seem to get a job anywhere.
Speaker 2: And Rogan is the flip side of that, where he's
Speaker 2: like this venture capitalist, brilliant type guy. And then Keanu
Speaker 2: Reeves is this angel that I don't know, is it
Speaker 2: revealing too much to say that these guys live different?
Speaker 2: So so Keanu Reeves essentially his character makes these guys
Speaker 2: do a freaky Friday. Yeah, and and then and this
Speaker 2: is what gets to be you know the question we
Speaker 2: have at the end of the movie. And this is
Speaker 2: what I was asking myself because I'm not going to
Speaker 2: say what the end result was. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: say how they get there. But Ben, if you all
Speaker 2: of a sudden were transformed into a light where you
Speaker 2: knew you didn't deserve it, you knew you didn't work
Speaker 2: to get it, and you have all but it was,
Speaker 2: and it was at the expense of somebody else who
Speaker 2: was deserving. How difficult would it be for you and
Speaker 2: no one's ever gonna know. Oh yeah, how difficult would
Speaker 2: it be for you to switch back so to your
Speaker 2: to your old life.
Speaker 1: Two things about this. First of all, the Freaky Friday format.
Speaker 1: What I loved about this aspect of it was in
Speaker 1: any other version of the Freaky Friday thing, there is
Speaker 1: inevitably the point where both parties involved realized they had
Speaker 1: they had it good back in their original body. This
Speaker 1: one doesn't really give you that feeling at any point
Speaker 1: in a Hollywood kind of way. You kind of feel it,
Speaker 1: but not not in a if that were you in
Speaker 1: real life, you would not be in that mindset, which
Speaker 1: it brings an interesting dynamic. And I oftentimes say it's
Speaker 1: very difficult to be creative in in movies and even
Speaker 1: in video games to a certain extent, because so much
Speaker 1: stuff has been done that it seems like it's more
Speaker 1: like improvising on of on a formula that's already out there,
Speaker 1: which is how I thought that was a really nice
Speaker 1: twist on this that makes you think about it. And secondly,
Speaker 1: and I'll be real with you, I do not. There
Speaker 1: is an element of this that neither one of us
Speaker 1: are going to be able to relate to. My best
Speaker 1: friend I went to a it wasn't Ivy League, but
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. It's a prestigious college, a big time Asian
Speaker 1: population there as well. My best friend, one of my
Speaker 1: best friends, I was the best man in his wedding,
Speaker 1: had that kind of stigma of like, you're at this school,
Speaker 1: You're Asian, You're gonna do this, You're gonna become a doctor.
Speaker 1: And he couldn't wake up before eleven o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 1: he would miss class all the time, and he ended
Speaker 1: up not going that route in the long run. And
Speaker 1: there's a certain component of that. I myself graduated from
Speaker 1: that school into the Great Recession, and like ap and
Speaker 1: honors classes, all these extracurriculars, you expect these big, grandiose things,
Speaker 1: and I'm there bartending with a degree from this institution
Speaker 1: for a while and I'm watching it. I'm sitting there,
Speaker 1: and so you're asking someone who can literally put himself
Speaker 1: in that position. It's like, Hey, if you could have
Speaker 1: pressed the skip button and not dealt with all that,
Speaker 1: not had the awkward Christmas dinners not had all those moments.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm a strong enough person to
Speaker 1: avoid all of that.
Speaker 2: That's that's my whole thing too.
Speaker 1: Like I'll be honest with you, like, I don't know
Speaker 1: that I could do it, except for the family aspect
Speaker 1: of it, Like the idea that I would lose my
Speaker 1: whole life along with that makes it a little bit
Speaker 1: of a harder conversation. But from the actual nuts.
Speaker 2: And bolts, because nobody knew.
Speaker 1: Yes, he introduced himself to all these people that he
Speaker 1: knew as his own parents or his best friends or
Speaker 1: whatever it was, that would be the hard part for me.
Speaker 1: But the actual nuts and bolts of it, the life,
Speaker 1: my life never got that bad what he was dealing with.
Speaker 1: I can tell you that I don't know that I
Speaker 1: would have the strength to do.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. It's tough to you know. You know,
Speaker 2: you and I have never been sleeping in our car
Speaker 2: right and living not only paycheck to paycheck, but like.
Speaker 1: Where are you brushing your teeth that morning?
Speaker 2: Exactly. I think it's interesting that the choices that Rogan's
Speaker 2: character made when he was on the flip side of this,
Speaker 2: you know where uh, poor you know, and and he
Speaker 2: was living day to day and he didn't know where
Speaker 2: his next you.
Speaker 1: Know, that's an important message, right, and.
Speaker 2: That that's the thing. And then and then think about, Okay,
Speaker 2: well what happens when a guy who is normally living
Speaker 2: high in the hog and and work to get there? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean he he knew what it took to get there,
Speaker 2: and he got there. And look at the decisions he
Speaker 2: made how he was trying to get by with money
Speaker 2: didn't surprise me. I mean, I guess maybe it did
Speaker 2: surprise me. There was a lot of the same decisions
Speaker 2: that a lot of other people make, oh sure, and
Speaker 2: that that are not very scrupulous.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I thought it was a really nice touch.
Speaker 1: At one point they had him go back like he
Speaker 1: has like some high falut and finance job that none
Speaker 1: of us could even really describe it.
Speaker 2: He's sort of like he's sort of like an independent
Speaker 2: contractor for businesses.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say he's a venture capitalist. There's
Speaker 2: probably so there's that, there's an element of that, and
Speaker 2: and he's just he's brilliant when it comes to understanding
Speaker 2: what's gonna be big and he gets in on the
Speaker 2: ground floor, and he makes other businesses better. He's a
Speaker 2: really really smart guy.
Speaker 1: I think. I'm sorry, obviously, I don't know if he
Speaker 1: wrote it. I'm gonna have to look that up once
Speaker 1: I stopped making this point here, But but she did.
Speaker 2: And now I think about this. Rogan did saunas, right,
Speaker 2: Isn't that how he came up? Yeah, he was a
Speaker 2: big Sauna bro. Yes, And and then that sort of
Speaker 2: parlayed into like he was in the cinemon bun business
Speaker 2: and you know, and and.
Speaker 1: These other Yeah, a bunch of ride share as things.
Speaker 2: Like businesses that want he, Oh, this guy's really smart,
Speaker 2: let's get him to consult for us.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But I thought it was a nice touch though,
Speaker 1: that he eventually, like once he's in the poor version
Speaker 1: of himself, he goes to that business and uses that
Speaker 1: knowledge to try and emphasize his value and get back
Speaker 1: into the company, and they they literally want nothing to
Speaker 1: do with him. And I think that's a nice touch
Speaker 1: because while he did work for it, he had connections,
Speaker 1: he had financial stability before he had the job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's just it really hit on so many levels
Speaker 1: for anybody currently involved in the job market right now,
Speaker 1: Like I oftentimes that this is one of those movies
Speaker 1: that I came out of there and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: am I happy? I'm content where I am like it
Speaker 1: was one of those kind of movies because I don't
Speaker 1: want to deal with that right now, right And it's
Speaker 1: a very real problem that like a lot of people
Speaker 1: are facing put into this comedy that is making you
Speaker 1: laugh about it. But I guarantee you there were a
Speaker 1: lot of people sitting there like, no, I get that.
Speaker 2: What what is this film making a commentary or a
Speaker 2: statement on the gig economy itself? Oh? Absolutely absolutely, and
Speaker 2: saying that it's bad, like this is wrong, We're heading
Speaker 2: in the wrong directions as a nation.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I couldn't agree with that more. I mean,
Speaker 1: I as somebody who did Uber and Lyft, I can
Speaker 1: tell you right now, in the four years that I
Speaker 1: did it, in the three years that I've been out here,
Speaker 1: I feel like forty percent of the of the audience
Speaker 1: that interacts with my show are driving for Uber and
Speaker 1: Lily while they're listening to it, and they'll call in
Speaker 1: and tell me I used to get this surge pay
Speaker 1: for this. That does happened anymore. I used to get
Speaker 1: this anytime a state talks.
Speaker 2: So it's getting worse.
Speaker 1: It's getting worse as time goes on, as it's monopolizing more.
Speaker 1: And I guarantee you anybody watching those are like, oh no,
Speaker 1: I totally understand what they're talking about there. And there
Speaker 1: is a bit I don't want to get into the ending.
Speaker 1: Let's just say there's a cartoonish kind of revelation in
Speaker 1: one of those companies that never happened.
Speaker 2: And I'll say this too, like I don't want to
Speaker 2: say I expected what happens at the end of this film,
Speaker 2: but I will say it didn't shock me. Maybe it
Speaker 2: surprised me. Yeah, didn't shock me. Maybe it didn't even
Speaker 2: surprise me. I don't know. I guess I was not
Speaker 2: surprised at the end. There's a lot of there's a
Speaker 2: part of me that wasn't satisfied. There's a part of
Speaker 2: me that was satisfied, and maybe that's kind of a
Speaker 2: reflection of myself, yeah, or just the state of the
Speaker 2: United States right now. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wish we could talk about the ending, because there
Speaker 1: was one part where I was mad at first when
Speaker 1: I was watching happened, But then the more I thought
Speaker 1: about the more, I'm like, oh, from a real life perspective,
Speaker 1: they can't have this, and like, i'll tell you what
Speaker 1: it is off the air. But seeing the ending, I
Speaker 1: was disappointed about something and I was like oh, and
Speaker 1: then I'm like, oh, well, actually, if I were watching
Speaker 1: this movie and living this life, i'd be pissed if
Speaker 1: that's how they ended it. So I understand that's not
Speaker 1: why they ended it that way, so I can appreciate
Speaker 1: that very much. To me, this movie, the best way
Speaker 1: I can describe it is if you're familiar with the
Speaker 1: term Pollyannish, it kind of I am not. Pollyanna is
Speaker 1: who it's based on, and it's like a very naive
Speaker 1: take on something. It's used in politics quite a bit.
Speaker 1: Well the representatives are here to represent us, and it's like, yeah, okay, man,
Speaker 1: but like there's a lot of money in politics, and
Speaker 1: that's not what happens, so we can't talk about it.
Speaker 2: That's what Pollyanna would say, Yes, okay.
Speaker 1: This movie was very Pollyannish in the sense that Aziz
Speaker 1: was living in his car, but you know what, the
Speaker 1: beautiful woman was into him still, and he and he
Speaker 1: had this solid relationship and a lot of people in
Speaker 1: that position, that's not what they're going through. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: like there was a bit of like an uplifting presence that,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, can only come from a bunch of
Speaker 1: rich people cause playing as poor people and almost pandering
Speaker 1: to the audience. Like That's what stuck out to me aggressively,
Speaker 1: is that if I were bitter, if I were jaded
Speaker 1: right now in my life, I'd be sitting here like, oh,
Speaker 1: come on, are you kidding me with this?
Speaker 2: Like that?
Speaker 1: To me, it's like that's was how I was looking
Speaker 1: at this frame. There's very pollyannish view to being poor
Speaker 1: right now, very pleasant things are working out that the
Speaker 1: employees that kick you out when you're sleeping in the
Speaker 1: in the booth also offer to give you a ride,
Speaker 1: because there were so many moments.
Speaker 2: But I'll say that maybe that that's the problem I
Speaker 2: had with this film too, is because I mean, I
Speaker 2: think a lot of people probably identified with Thensarry's character, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but maybe not the type of people that are going
Speaker 2: to the movies to see this. Oh sure, sure, I
Speaker 2: did not identify with anybody I try to put myself
Speaker 2: in this film. Obviously I can't identify with Rogan's character. Sure,
Speaker 2: really struggle to identify with n Sorry's character for the
Speaker 2: most part, and I'm not an angel. Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: don't have this this willingness to save souls because I
Speaker 2: can't save souls, so so to put you know, I
Speaker 2: try to put myself. I think I tried to put
Speaker 2: myself in in Sorry's shoes towards the end, but I
Speaker 2: really couldn't place myself in this movie. Were you able
Speaker 2: to successful?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? I mean Sorry, Yeah, And I mean I even
Speaker 1: was involved in the they do a unionization plot line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna ask you about that too. That's
Speaker 2: sort of Keiky Palmer's role in this. Like obviously she's
Speaker 2: like the girl in this, the female lead. Not even
Speaker 2: that she's a lead, but she's the one female character
Speaker 2: we have in this that's sort of in Sorry's love interest.
Speaker 2: And her big thing is trying to unionize employees at
Speaker 2: what seems like a home depot.
Speaker 1: Lows type of Yeah. Yeah, it's not a real place.
Speaker 1: It's not either of the hardware or something. I can't
Speaker 1: remember that, and it's a it's a major chain that
Speaker 1: screws people around. What's interesting is I was involved in
Speaker 1: that kind of process. I did the whole thing. But
Speaker 1: the entire staff was on board with it. It was
Speaker 1: management trying to shut it down. This was an entirely
Speaker 1: different conversation. And what's cool is, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you noticed it. Every single plot line was some version
Speaker 1: of your attitude towards work. Even Keanu reeves that you
Speaker 1: said it's difficult to relate to as an angel. His
Speaker 1: whole storyline was, I feel like I'm undervalued in my position. More. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what I'm doing, which is another common.
Speaker 2: Work, Okay, And that's not that's there's no compensation obviously,
Speaker 2: it's just a a willingness to work. It is a
Speaker 2: wanting a useful purpose. Sure, and he felt like his purpose,
Speaker 2: while useful, did not suit his capabilities.
Speaker 1: Yes, and it was coming to Grips with maybe you
Speaker 1: are doing what you're suited for. Like, there's also that
Speaker 1: element of it. So like there was the Keky Palmer
Speaker 1: and the and the unionization and coming to Grips with
Speaker 1: it's not a glamorous life, but this is the little
Speaker 1: niche that you're trying to carve out for yourself. That's
Speaker 1: something that people can relate to. Even Seth Rogan's character
Speaker 1: of trying to find purpose, like, once you've made that
Speaker 1: kind of money, he's all drugs and party, which is
Speaker 1: fun from the outside.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I'll say this too, I think it's obviously
Speaker 2: very easy to play that character as an unlikable one. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought he's very likable even when he was rich, yes,
Speaker 2: or when he is rich or was whatever you want
Speaker 2: to say, which is.
Speaker 1: Part of the polyan in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Well, but okay, I just feel like the way he
Speaker 2: talked to him, sorry, and the way it was shot
Speaker 2: with only him in scenes. Yeah, he didn't come off
Speaker 2: as like this prick.
Speaker 1: It humanized him for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And he came off as like one
Speaker 2: of these guys that like he didn't see I don't
Speaker 2: think he sees people, anybody as beneath him.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I think he treated everybody the same. He put them
Speaker 2: all in the same place, even though he's a goodly
Speaker 2: rich has all this stuff and sorry, shows up at
Speaker 2: his house with like a duct tape bumper on his
Speaker 2: you know, car or whatever.
Speaker 1: Very opposite of the vibe of parasite. If you saw
Speaker 1: Parasite back and that was they hire the assistance, and
Speaker 1: there's a very clear delineation of you are the servants
Speaker 1: and we are the wealthy people. Which this took a
Speaker 1: very different route there.
Speaker 2: There was the season finale, season three finale, if Darryl
Speaker 2: Dixon was on this past Sunday, and there's a scene
Speaker 2: where this you know, very rich community in Spain, the
Speaker 2: wealthy there, they they hire workers and you know, to
Speaker 2: like serve them or whatever. They have this big banquet
Speaker 2: and they have servers bringing them wine and food or whatever,
Speaker 2: and they make all the servers wear masks so they
Speaker 2: don't have to look the workers in the eyes, you know.
Speaker 2: And that was the opposite of Rogan. You know, I
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I don't feel like he talked
Speaker 2: down to any Honestly, the only time he became unlikable
Speaker 2: was when he became ornery, and that's when he was
Speaker 2: in a similar situation in Sorry's character. And I don't
Speaker 2: even think Danny he was all that unlikable. He was
Speaker 2: actually the most relatable, most relatable then exactly, Yeah, when
Speaker 2: he was when he was going through that. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: I mean to be frank, And that's kind of the
Speaker 2: point of parasite as well. You should be seth rogen
Speaker 2: in that lifestyle, you know what, I mean we talk,
Speaker 2: and I say this as a media member. I've worked,
Speaker 2: I've painted for a living, I've bartended, and I've said
Speaker 2: on my show a dozen times over I could focus
Speaker 2: on show crafting for fourteen hours, I will not be
Speaker 2: half as tired as a six hour shift bartending from
Speaker 2: four to ten.
Speaker 1: We oftimes like, oh, I gotta work, I gotta go
Speaker 1: to this meeting. I gotta go to that meeting. When
Speaker 1: his ease, I'm sorry, becomes wealthy and he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I got a big day planned, and they go to
Speaker 1: some Japanese restaurant and they talk business for thirteen seconds
Speaker 1: and then talk about life. Yes, it's a meeting. Yes,
Speaker 1: there's large dollar amounts involved, Like realistically in the grand
Speaker 1: scheme of work, really not that particularly difficult exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, if if you could give me
Speaker 2: where I have to just say yes or no on
Speaker 2: something for one question. Yeah, and then I have a
Speaker 2: two hour sushi lunch. Right, that's not.
Speaker 1: Work, No, No, it isn't. There's big dollar sums and
Speaker 1: I I was involved in in in sales projects that
Speaker 1: were multimillion dollar sales projects, high level stuff that has
Speaker 1: like big outcomes when you make a decision, but not
Speaker 1: hard work, like by any stretch of the imagination. And
Speaker 1: they touch on that there were so many elements of this.
Speaker 1: The whole thing was was a commentary on work, finding
Speaker 1: value in yourself? How much does your job really even
Speaker 1: define you? And so many other of those different factors
Speaker 1: that I'll be real.
Speaker 2: How much how much does your employer see you? That's
Speaker 2: another one you know too, like what is you know?
Speaker 2: And then and then battling with this this your self
Speaker 2: perception of yourself when you know how you're being treated
Speaker 2: by everybody else yourself your own self worth, yeah, which
Speaker 2: was key. And then Sorry's evolution, his character evolution of
Speaker 2: like how do I find value in in this life?
Speaker 2: How do I find self purpose in this life? How
Speaker 2: do I find joy in this life? That's really really
Speaker 2: hard and it's really really difficult to find those things. Oh,
Speaker 2: for sure, he needed to. He had to. I had
Speaker 2: to find a way.
Speaker 1: I would have loved to add a scene to that
Speaker 1: movie from my own life because I like, you know,
Speaker 1: he's waiting in line, which I never had to do
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was part of this task. App or Yeah,
Speaker 2: like someone had to wait people to pay him to
Speaker 2: stand in line for them to pick up something.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, And there were times like I am very
Speaker 1: you've seen me. I'm not super phone centric. And there's
Speaker 1: a there's a real life story in my life where
Speaker 1: I was standing waiting for the food to be made
Speaker 1: that I was going to drive to someone. I was
Speaker 1: doing like a door dash thing and I stare at people,
Speaker 1: but I don't stare at them. I stare through them,
Speaker 1: like I zone out and I'm thinking, but like my
Speaker 1: eyes are directly locked.
Speaker 2: It looks like you're staring at Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I got called out by a dude like
Speaker 1: eating scrambled eggs, big scruff guy with honestly with your
Speaker 1: kind of beard, and he looks at me really grizzly,
Speaker 1: is like, can I help you with something? And I
Speaker 1: was like, I was surrounded by four other door dashers
Speaker 1: and looking at their phone, and I went, I guess
Speaker 1: not that I pulled my phone out and just started
Speaker 1: scrolling nothing because I did vating the scroll and like
Speaker 1: this felt like that kind of like there was a
Speaker 1: montage of him having those kind of moments. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have my own this moment, and I like it's
Speaker 1: just it. It nailed me, like, I think I liked
Speaker 1: this movie. It had. I looked the reviews up before this,
Speaker 1: and people seemed to really yeah, digging it. But I
Speaker 1: think I liked this movie more than the mean, more
Speaker 1: than the average.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think the character at least since Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was not because I never door dashed. Yeah, I've
Speaker 2: never been in a position where I was living paycheck
Speaker 2: to paycheck ever, you know, even even sure you know,
Speaker 2: in my early twenties or whatever, when I probably should
Speaker 2: have which probably should have been maybe I just didn't
Speaker 2: have enough fun. That was the other thing with Keanu
Speaker 2: Reeves looking at his first paycheck when you start that
Speaker 2: was that was very funny.
Speaker 1: There were a couple of lines that got me hard
Speaker 1: in that movie that got me hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Robots, that's it turns ben common hit me hard
Speaker 2: that movie. No, I think that like every time he
Speaker 2: delivered the line of of like and spend money on
Speaker 2: things that are fun, like I mean this is like
Speaker 2: right out of like nineteen eighty four, like some sort
Speaker 2: of like weird robot that is living among us, or
Speaker 2: just because he said it like three different times. Yeah,
Speaker 2: chicken nuggies, Yeah, and chicken nuggies the when he's eating
Speaker 2: for the first time and he doesn't know how to, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this movie's actually growing on me while we're talking
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: That's that that that Rogan you know. And that's the
Speaker 2: other thing too, is like, you know Rogan's you used
Speaker 2: to his characters used to eating it like that, that
Speaker 2: fancy restaurant that yeah ended in Sorry's character and then
Speaker 2: he just goes and and uh and to this burger
Speaker 2: place fer fries and or burger chicken, nuggies and milkshake,
Speaker 2: and he was totally at home doing that right. And
Speaker 2: then the way that they all related towards the end
Speaker 2: of the movie, I think within the last fifteen minutes
Speaker 2: about the two things that they love most on Earth,
Speaker 2: and they all agree that's they're all three of theirs
Speaker 2: their favorite two things. Like that was that was pretty
Speaker 2: good too, So yeah, I mean there's it was fine.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just unless we can get into the ratings,
Speaker 2: unless you have something else to say, Oh no, I'm
Speaker 2: pretty cashed out on everything I wanted to bring up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very simple movie, very very you know, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and I think that the whole thing that we
Speaker 2: have to explain to people. I don't remember what podcasts
Speaker 2: we were doing, which episode we're doing. But we brought
Speaker 2: up this Good Fortune movie and you said you got
Speaker 2: to see the trailer for this, and I watch it
Speaker 2: and I agreed with you, and I said this that
Speaker 2: if there's one reason we're doing we're watching this movie
Speaker 2: is because of Keanu Reeves acting like we have to
Speaker 2: see we can't just limit ourselves to a two minute trailer.
Speaker 2: We have to see the full one hundred minutes of
Speaker 2: Keanu Reeves pulling this off. So this is not a
Speaker 2: film I probably would have normally seen. You know, I agree,
Speaker 2: But the trailer and your recommendation of why we should
Speaker 2: watch this movie was enough. I'm glad I saw it once.
Speaker 2: I don't know how rewatchable this is. I don't think
Speaker 2: it's grown on me as much as it's grown on you.
Speaker 2: But again, it's that comes to me. Relatable characters for
Speaker 2: me in this movie just were not non existent. And
Speaker 2: maybe that's a good thing for my for my life.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a bad thing for how I interact with
Speaker 2: people in society.
Speaker 1: Sure, and to be to be perfectly frank, though I
Speaker 1: also at times was pulling my phone out and scrolling
Speaker 1: a little bit. Oh really, I'm like, okay, yeah, because
Speaker 1: there were there were times I thought there were some
Speaker 1: cookie cutter yes, I founding. I found parts of the
Speaker 1: movie to be boring, but then other parts very engaging. Again,
Speaker 1: it's just it kind of wasn't very even. But again
Speaker 1: for a first effort. Yeah, I did like the.
Speaker 2: Not knowing how these three actors would all be tied
Speaker 2: together in this movie. I mean I knew that they
Speaker 2: would be, and I didn't know how, and it was
Speaker 2: kind of cool to see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't either. I went in super blind into
Speaker 1: this and as I normally do, but like normally I
Speaker 1: at least have some concept of the plot, like other
Speaker 1: than weapons. I don't know that I've gone in more
Speaker 1: like completely ambiguously than I did this movie, you know,
Speaker 1: so pleasantly surprised. But I said, you're doing ratings first
Speaker 1: because five and a half, okay, I was gonna go six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I felt like you were going to be
Speaker 2: higher than me on this. It's fine. This to me
Speaker 2: felt like, and maybe I'm being cynical, it felt like
Speaker 2: a movie where and Sorry could get back out there
Speaker 2: with two well known actors and Ye become a more
Speaker 2: likable guy play a likable character and people start being like, Hey,
Speaker 2: this guy's pretty fuck I remember this guy from Parks
Speaker 2: and whatever happened to him. I'm glad he's back. I'm
Speaker 2: glad he's doing all this stuff now, you know. And
Speaker 2: I know he's done stuff since Parks and rec or whatever,
Speaker 2: but it hasn't been on this level of stage. And listen,
Speaker 2: they always say on Saturday Night Live. Not that I've
Speaker 2: ever worked there, it'd be cool to work there, they
Speaker 2: always say on Saturday Night Live. If you are in
Speaker 2: the cast and you're also a writer, you need to
Speaker 2: write stuff for yourself or you'll never get out there.
Speaker 2: And what it in. Sorry, I don't know if he
Speaker 2: got writing credit on this, oh right, yeah, but I
Speaker 2: do know he directed it. I do know he was
Speaker 2: the protagonist of this story, more so than Rogan, more
Speaker 2: so than Keanu Reeves. So if you are if you
Speaker 2: do want to get back in the public eye and
Speaker 2: you know, and become likable again, this is a great
Speaker 2: way to do it. And he ends up directing and
Speaker 2: starring it. He wrote it, and he wrote it, So
Speaker 2: there you go, So write stuff for yourself and to
Speaker 2: me after I saw it him like this kind of
Speaker 2: feels like it's self serving for his career. But should
Speaker 2: we all be self serving?
Speaker 1: Oh of course, Yeah, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: If you're not going to promote yourself, no one else
Speaker 2: is gonna do.
Speaker 1: It for you one thousand percent. And I will also
Speaker 1: say so, I came out of that movie thinking to myself,
Speaker 1: you know, AZ's I'm sorry, plays the same character in
Speaker 1: every like. It's not acting, it's just he can deliver lines. Well,
Speaker 1: you know who else i'd say that about Seth Rogan.
Speaker 1: You know who else i'd say that about. It was
Speaker 1: a movie of three people that I think don't necessarily
Speaker 1: act like. You even made a comment. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was on your show or my show, but
Speaker 1: you said Seth Rogan basically plays a richer version of himself. Totally.
Speaker 1: I'd argue he plays himself in every single movie. I
Speaker 1: think they even make a joke about that. And this
Speaker 1: is the end. It's just the same. They have the
Speaker 1: Seth Rogan laugh in there, They do all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. Keanu reeves, whether he's fighting bots in the
Speaker 1: matrix or you know, freaking what is a point break
Speaker 1: or any of the bank it's the same. It's the
Speaker 1: same character and Disease is uh, yeah, I'm telling you
Speaker 1: watch thirty minutes or less. You'll be like, oh, so
Speaker 1: he's just doing thirty minutes. He did this movie like
Speaker 1: to be frank, I think it was well written. But
Speaker 1: I also think he went on Reddit and went to
Speaker 1: a couple of them. Now now I wrote it from there.
Speaker 2: Imagine this because I know a lot of people thought
Speaker 2: it was an interesting casting choice when Jack Black got
Speaker 2: cast in King Kong. Remember that. Oh sure, imagine a
Speaker 2: he's in, sorry, playing Jack Black's character in that movie.
Speaker 2: It'd be really weird. And it's because I don't think
Speaker 2: he has the range. Jack Black probably has the range
Speaker 2: to do something like that. But and sorry, like I
Speaker 2: don't know, man, it's just he kind of type cast
Speaker 2: himself and that's probably what he wanted to do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, and and maybe we'll see another This is
Speaker 2: probably not the last we've seen then. Sorry, writing starring
Speaker 2: and directing in his own vehicle.
Speaker 1: But I also will say, and I don't know Disease, right,
Speaker 1: I've never met him. But I also like, I think
Speaker 1: there's some people that are in Hollywood or in music,
Speaker 1: or in any of these major high profile positions that
Speaker 1: are there because they realize it's a way to make
Speaker 1: unlimited money. Like I don't think Kevin Hart does what
Speaker 1: he does to reinvent comedy. He's like, oh, I have
Speaker 1: nine figures.
Speaker 2: Might no, But I mean, I don't think you need
Speaker 2: to be in the business to be a game changer.
Speaker 2: I think you can just be in the business because
Speaker 2: you enjoy doing it. But people are paying you on
Speaker 2: godly amounts of money to do it.
Speaker 1: That's just it. Though I don't think Ausease is an artist.
Speaker 1: I think Jack Black is an artist. I think he
Speaker 1: actually tries to whether or not you.
Speaker 3: Like it or not is a different Yes, that is
Speaker 3: another Madonna for I'd even say Jim carry Jim Carris
Speaker 3: an actor in Hollywood for a little But I'm not
Speaker 3: saying you can't make money and do it.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying he's like, no, I'm doing this the
Speaker 1: way I want to do it, and it's going to
Speaker 1: be unique to me. And however that be. Jack Black
Speaker 1: can go in those rules, Jim Carrey can go in
Speaker 1: those Adam Sandler can go and.
Speaker 2: One too, and like, but I would make the argument
Speaker 2: that who's the guy he's in Phantom Thread. There will
Speaker 2: be blood Lincoln. Why can I not think of this guy, big, huge, Hollywood.
Speaker 1: What's his name? Hired? Yeah, it's like three names.
Speaker 2: Daniel, Daniel Davids, Daniel da Lewis right. Yeah, that dude
Speaker 2: will will do things where he he will only do
Speaker 2: things if he feels creatively fulfilled, yes, and and he
Speaker 2: will not he won't do other things if he doesn't.
Speaker 2: I think if he doesn't feel like he's doing something
Speaker 2: noteworthy or meaningful, then he's not going to do it.
Speaker 2: There's other people and I would fall into this category.
Speaker 2: Oh hey, do you want me to work on this
Speaker 2: movie for six months? Where comedy and like, I've done
Speaker 2: this type of movie before. But you're gonna pay me
Speaker 2: three million bucks or whatever? Yeah, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't feel like you. I don't feel
Speaker 2: like you have to have a need to reinvent the game,
Speaker 2: to to be in the industry, to be looked upon favorably.
Speaker 2: I don't think it hurts. You know, there's you know,
Speaker 2: if people call me a sellout, if I was doing that, yeah,
Speaker 2: I probably did sell out. The South Park guys. I
Speaker 2: think I told you about this, Trey Parker, Matt Stone,
Speaker 2: this is years ago, probably two decades ago, and somebody
Speaker 2: asked them if they had sold out, you know, and
Speaker 2: I can't. I don't know if it was with a bigger,
Speaker 2: longer on cut movie or Basketball or or Gasmo or
Speaker 2: whatever it was. But Trey Parker basically said, look, the
Speaker 2: plan all along was to sell out, like this is
Speaker 2: what we've been trying to do, and now we finally
Speaker 2: have the opportunity. And you know what, they're worth one
Speaker 2: hundred thousand billion million dollars now, you know.
Speaker 1: So exactly, And there's a sweet sput I just I.
Speaker 2: Don't And by the way, they can still do stuff
Speaker 2: that I think they enjoy that makes them feel creatively
Speaker 2: fulfilled too. To give them their own self purpose, to
Speaker 2: give them their you know, their their own usefulness in society.
Speaker 1: There's a very famous story. A lot of people will
Speaker 1: tell you he was a dick behind the scenes as well.
Speaker 1: But in the fourth Diehard movie, Live Free or Die
Speaker 1: Hard with Justin Long and all that, yeah, Bruce Willis
Speaker 1: was behind the scenes and he would tell people, I
Speaker 1: view myself as the keeper of the lore of John mclady.
Speaker 1: He said, the directors change, the writers change, the rest
Speaker 1: of the cast changes. I'm always here doing this, and
Speaker 1: when something would happen out of character, he'd be like, no,
Speaker 1: this isn't what he would do when we're going to
Speaker 1: do this. I get that in the fifth one, which
Speaker 1: everyone would agree is by far the worst one.
Speaker 2: Who is in that one Y Courtney when he goes
Speaker 2: his son and daughter yeah, and he goes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, trash ass movie. He will go out and say, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a paycheck movie. And you can tell in
Speaker 1: the way it kind of carries, and this is what
Speaker 1: he did. Another one right, No, and that's what the
Speaker 1: big blockbuster action movie that you wouldn't assume his art,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't assume you know, it's creative. But he took
Speaker 1: it seriously. And that's all I ever asked for in movies.
Speaker 1: And again I do not know his ease, but he
Speaker 1: seems like somebody clinging, like trying to get in there,
Speaker 1: and he'll just I'll just throw crap at the wall,
Speaker 1: Like I said, you know.
Speaker 2: You could make the case he's trying to get back yeah,
Speaker 2: and then once he gets back in there, it's whatever
Speaker 2: he can make his uncut gems.
Speaker 1: But something like that, it genuinely felt like an episode
Speaker 1: of outside the box and all I ever do is
Speaker 1: scour the internet for people's lived experiences. And it seems
Speaker 1: like he did that and was like, I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: write a script. Are around that and like that? To me,
Speaker 1: it's nice. It felt like he was speaking to a
Speaker 1: real thing people were feeling. But like, is he an artist?
Speaker 1: Is it is that? Is this going to set the stage?
Speaker 1: I don't expect to see him win an oscar anytime now,
Speaker 1: you know, Like that's kind of how I look at it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the voice thing. I need to keep coming
Speaker 2: back to it. But that prevents him from doing a
Speaker 2: lot of things. Yeah, it's the popular culture and in
Speaker 2: the film and television industry, which is fine. I mean
Speaker 2: we all get and and you know what, it makes
Speaker 2: him great as Tom and Parks.
Speaker 1: And oh yeah he was on points.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he was awesome that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, which that's a lot of sitcoms, like who from
Speaker 1: friends other than Jennifer Aniston really went on to do anything.
Speaker 1: Nobody because they were Chandler was Chandler. Phoebe feb Well.
Speaker 2: Matthew Perry did go on to make some some movies.
Speaker 1: They all did some stuff, but none of them were successful.
Speaker 1: Courtney Cox was in the screen movies, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that was successful. It was fine.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I mean you could make the case
Speaker 2: of what did Jennifer Anderson do as as an actor
Speaker 2: after Friends? I mean, I I don't really put her
Speaker 2: at a level above any of these, I guess I
Speaker 2: mean the breakup with Vince Vaughn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Horrible Bosses.
Speaker 2: Horrible Bosses. What was the other one she did with Saedeikas. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they to Harvey.
Speaker 1: Where the Millers. Yeah, I mean it's just like that.
Speaker 2: That's whole nine yards, that's scream, that's You're not Rob
Speaker 2: and Michelle's high school regunion. That's all the same crap. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're not wrong, it's ed. Remember matt leb with the Orangutan?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and David swim anything. He was the husband
Speaker 1: in Six Days, Six.
Speaker 2: Day, Seven Nights. He was in that. He did the
Speaker 2: goose Bumps, uh, which was good ship.
Speaker 1: That was so good. I didn't see the second season.
Speaker 1: This was so good. He was.
Speaker 2: He was really good in I can't remember what season.
Speaker 2: It was a Kirby Enthusiasm where he and Larry David
Speaker 2: were the producers.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But as far as films go. I feel like he
Speaker 2: was in some like he had these supporting role type
Speaker 2: things where and like, you know, serious roles. You know,
Speaker 2: it wasn't comedic.
Speaker 1: And he was the star in an AMC show that
Speaker 1: only lasted one season. It was actually pretty legit, and
Speaker 1: it was it was what's the one with the dude
Speaker 1: where he's he works in the kitchen? That's like really, oh,
Speaker 1: the Bear? It was the Bear before it was the Bear.
Speaker 1: It was called like the Beast, and it was about
Speaker 1: two brothers to try and open a open a restaurant
Speaker 1: together and they essentially use mob money to kind of
Speaker 1: get a role.
Speaker 2: Did he play both? Was it like a twin brothers?
Speaker 1: Not that I don't remember who the supplemental rule was.
Speaker 1: I'll have to look that up. I peaked my interest
Speaker 1: and it never got a second season, so no one
Speaker 1: else cared. But I enjoyed the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're right. I mean for film, I can't really.
Speaker 1: But I say all that to say so saying a
Speaker 1: member of a sitcom really doesn't have a big future
Speaker 1: movies ahead, it is actually the norm rather than it is,
Speaker 1: because I'd argue Parks and rec while very funny and
Speaker 1: very popular, It's not what Friends or Seinfel was.
Speaker 2: Chris Pratt turned into a pretty successful movie career. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Parks and rec Yeah, it can be done. It can't
Speaker 2: be Julia Louise Dreyfus, Julia Dreyfus that you could make
Speaker 2: the cases much more popular now after doing VP.
Speaker 1: Now she's got this Marvel deal going, which it's only
Speaker 1: going to blow her up. So I mean, yeah, it
Speaker 1: can happen. It's not going to happen for his ease,
Speaker 1: but it can happen out there. I think we're all
Speaker 1: done here.
Speaker 2: Yeah we are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, next week, I'll be real with you. I'm down
Speaker 1: to still do this. What's it called Badega, But I'm
Speaker 1: down to do that. I will say so. The ticket
Speaker 1: taker at the at the theater has gotten to know
Speaker 1: me and we have conversations every time I go in
Speaker 1: now and I was like, you know this, this horror
Speaker 1: season is kind of sucked, and she's like, I agree,
Speaker 1: And this is the first movie that we have seen
Speaker 1: that she has not seen it. She's like, i've heard
Speaker 1: mixed reviews on this. I can't tell you if it's
Speaker 1: good or not. And I was like yeah. She was like,
Speaker 1: I saw black Phone too, and then and this other one,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I honestly, god, I hated black
Speaker 1: Phone one. America loved that. She's like me too. She's
Speaker 1: like this second one had some Freddy Krueger in it.
Speaker 1: She's like, it was about your dreams and it was
Speaker 1: all this. I'm like, oh. I was like, well, you
Speaker 1: can talk me into that.
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. If you want to do that,
Speaker 2: we can't. But when we kind of decided that you
Speaker 2: didn't want to do it, I went to Wikipedia because
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want to suck it, and I
Speaker 2: know what happens, all right, hold on, hold on, but
Speaker 2: I read it and she's not wrong with what she's
Speaker 2: telling you. Yeah, but I'm like, god, really, this is
Speaker 2: the movie that was my reaction, Okay, And I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what. If you're listening to this,
Speaker 1: we're not committing right now.
Speaker 2: We're not committing. We're going to figure this out off air,
Speaker 2: and you'll get a surprise next week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be one of those two so you can
Speaker 1: limit it down. Then we'll see where we end up
Speaker 1: going with this. But you know, it is going to
Speaker 1: be Halloween week, and I feel like we're messing up here,
Speaker 1: but we do what we want. That's Eric Balkman aka Balkey.
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Speaker 1: off topic. We'll be back next week