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<v Speaker 1>Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>The movie we're reviewing this week is Good Fortune, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think the question that most people were asking themselves

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<v Speaker 2>after this movie. If you had everything in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>everything you wanted, but you knew it was the right

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<v Speaker 2>thing to do, to give it up and go back

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<v Speaker 2>to a life where you knew it was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be hard, would you be strong enough to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to do it? There's a lot of questions I had

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<v Speaker 2>throughout this film. That was the question I was left with,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know how I would answer it. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're going to get into that today on

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<v Speaker 2>answering that question and a few others, a few other

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<v Speaker 2>ethical questions, a few other questions about the commentary that

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<v Speaker 2>this movie made, that this film made about socioeconomical roles

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<v Speaker 2>in our society and the way capitalism has worked. And

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<v Speaker 2>what do they call it the economy right now?

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<v Speaker 1>What do they call it?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a certain name. Starts the gig economy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, the gig economy. Yeah sure.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of stuff about the gig economy in this

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So. While on the surface this film seems pretty straightforward

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<v Speaker 2>as a comedy, there's a lot of underthlying themes here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you just took the words right out of my mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, not too often you walk

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<v Speaker 1>out of a comedy movie saying, you know, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of interesting philosophical questions that I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>run past you, of course the next hour. And yet

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<v Speaker 1>here we are talking about it that way, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're exactly right with it. You know what's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>is you even gave me a heads up, and I

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<v Speaker 1>braced myself for it, and I wasn't necessarily expecting it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't laugh a whole lot. And it's not to

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<v Speaker 1>say it wasn't entertaining or I didn't enjoy it, but

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<v Speaker 1>there were moments that I laughed out loud, and just

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<v Speaker 1>like with a lot of movies in the Midwest, I

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<v Speaker 1>was laughing at times when people were relatively quiet. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>Ye'll be sitting there holding my sides a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>laughing at some of the things that happened. But definitely

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<v Speaker 1>not a bust your gut laughing kind of movie, but

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<v Speaker 1>definitely something that I think anybody between the ages of

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<v Speaker 1>alive and dead can probably too.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now at least at some point in yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>If not right now, then definitely at one point or another,

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<v Speaker 1>and as somebody who absolutely utilized the gig economy in

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<v Speaker 1>the way a lot of those companies tell you to

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<v Speaker 1>do so. I was a radio producer, while managing a property,

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<v Speaker 1>while driving for Uber, lifting door Dash, and while having

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<v Speaker 1>five other sources of income to kind of get this

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<v Speaker 1>career off the ground. I can relate. And what's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>is and that this was the thought that I had

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<v Speaker 1>walking out of it. I have a memory like a

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<v Speaker 1>steel trap that life was three years ago, and it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like it was another person's life for me. Really

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<v Speaker 1>watching what I saw, I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot that. I almost I felt this way every

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<v Speaker 1>single day while living my life because I'm in such

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<v Speaker 1>a better mental state now. And it's uh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>probably the third or fourth movie balky. I was joking

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<v Speaker 1>about it with our coworker Laura. I said, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why. I know it was Carly and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>why do we keep going to these movies? I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched these movies to escape. This is the third

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<v Speaker 1>or fourth time in the last five six movies, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, man, I'm gonna be using this for content

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<v Speaker 1>and outside the box tomorrow. And sure enough, I started

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<v Speaker 1>my show off today talking about Good Fortune and the

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<v Speaker 1>messages of that movie, which is very ironic.

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<v Speaker 2>I I think that I got I got the phone call.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, let's we'll be right back, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing with this film that I noticed, and

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<v Speaker 2>you talked about not laughing a lot out loud, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a few times you did. I felt like it was

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<v Speaker 2>weird with the type of actor and comedian that is

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<v Speaker 2>he's in sorry is and his voice. Yeah, there were

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<v Speaker 2>times where I think that you weren't meant to laugh,

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<v Speaker 2>but it almost came off comical because he's got like

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<v Speaker 2>this kid kid's voice, and he's super bubbly and peppy

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<v Speaker 2>and and that, and that was a little off putting

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<v Speaker 2>to me in this you know, where he's like, well, well,

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<v Speaker 2>now what am I gonna do? Yeah, I'm living in

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<v Speaker 2>my car. You know. It's like it's hilarious, but it's not,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Yeah, So that was a little weird for

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<v Speaker 2>me to get used to in this film. And we'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about these ethical questions in a little bit. When

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<v Speaker 2>I was on your show the other day, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things I wanted to ask you about is Keanu

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<v Speaker 2>Reeves a good actor. What did you think of his

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<v Speaker 2>performance in this film where yes it was a comedy,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes he had comedic moments, but I just felt it's

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<v Speaker 2>so robotic with him. I mean, he is like a

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<v Speaker 2>Westworld robot when it comes to acting, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if that's by design. I don't know if he

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<v Speaker 2>has a limited range, and yet he keeps getting gigs, Ben, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>keeps getting significant gigs.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I went into this looking for that because

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<v Speaker 1>I have been not a hater of Keanu Reeves, because honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I like just about every single movie he's in, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not even a bold statement, Like most movies

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<v Speaker 1>Keanu Reeves does. Like No, that was a pretty good movie,

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<v Speaker 1>and so like whether or not that has to do

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<v Speaker 1>with him or not, I don't know. I went into

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<v Speaker 1>this movie and first of all, I don't this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a spoiler, but the hardest I laughed. He eventually becomes

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<v Speaker 1>a cook era a dishwasher at a restaurant. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>there's a scene where he's saying nothing and he's smoking

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<v Speaker 1>a cigarette and staring into the void.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I had to do a double take him, like

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<v Speaker 2>is he smoking a cigarette? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And the look on his face. If you've ever worked

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<v Speaker 1>at a restaurant before, you have seen that person smoking

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<v Speaker 1>a cigarette outside at the restaurant. I've seen it a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand times. Anyone has seen it. It is the hardest

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<v Speaker 1>I laughed in the whole movie. And you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>worked on that face and that mannerism and that approach.

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<v Speaker 1>So that one scene, I'm like, okay, good acting. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>outside of that one moment was this.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you talking about the no Bueno scene?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, yes, And he's sitting there smoking and he's

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<v Speaker 1>just like staring off into this distance. He's not even

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<v Speaker 1>saying anything, but it's just the stare of someone that

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<v Speaker 1>just washed dishes for five hours. As someone that was

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<v Speaker 1>a dishwasher, I can tell you I know that's stare.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that cigarette after the dinner rush that you smoke.

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<v Speaker 1>I know everything about that, and I'm watching it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>watching that. That was the best acting he did in

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<v Speaker 1>the whole movie. I will say, I do think the

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<v Speaker 1>robotic delivery he struck me. And tell me if you

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<v Speaker 1>think this is crazy, he struck me. The character that

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was trying to convey is an angel

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<v Speaker 1>that has been around for so long that him engaging

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<v Speaker 1>in English and talking to humans and like interacting in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five America, it almost felt like a very

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<v Speaker 1>naive like like the best way I can describe is

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<v Speaker 1>this sounded like he was acting in a play while

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else was acting in a movie. Yes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the best way that I can describe either. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, what I walked out it was I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to think of it because there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>a have you ever seen the TV show Community?

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<v Speaker 2>I have seen episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, there's an episode where Ahbed takes a class and

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<v Speaker 1>the entire class is dedicated to determining whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>Nicholas k is a good actor. And he essentially runs

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<v Speaker 1>the gamut of all these different actors. And he describes

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Depp as the bad kind of good, meaning he's

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<v Speaker 1>a great actor, but like a he seems obnoxious in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to handle. Keanu Reeves is the good kind

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<v Speaker 1>of bad. I think he's very likable. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>very charismatic. I don't know that he's a good actor,

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<v Speaker 1>but his personality in every movie he's in, I'm just like, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm down to ride. Let's see where this goes.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I even I was thinking back to John

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<v Speaker 2>Wick when we were watching the John Wick movies in Ballerina.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he has this like halting way of stilted

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<v Speaker 2>almost stilted, yeah, way of talking in that too, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>which I don't know if it like. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a little distracting in this film. I guess mostly

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<v Speaker 2>because I thought he'd be he'd be a human, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, which is funny because he's not human. He's

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<v Speaker 2>not an angel.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you question Christopher watkins ability as an actor?

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<v Speaker 2>It? I don't. I don't know if this is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>sound like this may sound hypocritical, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>his is more natural.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I just it is him. It feels like it's him,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's not acting like I think it's Christopher walking

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<v Speaker 1>playing a scene in a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>He speaks the same way in almost every movie. I

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<v Speaker 2>like his performances too, That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I brought it up.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're less distracting than Keanu Reeves. Really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I don't. I don't know. It's an interesting comparison,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. I just feel I don't know. I just

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's more human with walking, you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>it was so robotic with Keanu Reeves. It is And

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<v Speaker 2>I say it like it sounds hypocritical because they do

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<v Speaker 2>very similar sticks, you know, and and it is what

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<v Speaker 2>it is, Okay, So so go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say. I will say another comparison I

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<v Speaker 1>was making in my head. Who caught us off guard

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<v Speaker 1>was Liam Neeson in Uh Naked Gun the remake. He

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<v Speaker 1>is not a traditionally comical actor, just like Keanu Reeves,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and he felt much more natural in the

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<v Speaker 1>position that he was in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes he did. But I do think that he was

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<v Speaker 2>chosen for that role. And I'm sure he picked the

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<v Speaker 2>role in part because he is supposed to play it

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<v Speaker 2>off as a serious actor, as a straight guy in

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<v Speaker 2>a in a in a comedy, whereas I don't get

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get that feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not at all. That was not the point of

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<v Speaker 1>his role in this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I do like the relationship between Rogan and I'm sorry here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're characters, the Rogan, I mean like sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>at the end, you get all three of these characters

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<v Speaker 2>sort of together briefly. Yeah, But the majority of the movie,

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<v Speaker 2>it always seems like it's two of these guys dominating

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<v Speaker 2>every scene where it's in and Rogan, where it's Reeves

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sorry, where it's Reeves and Rogan, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And it was different in each one, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>cool to see, you know, them play off each other,

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<v Speaker 2>especially Reeves, who's not a comedic guy, and the other

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<v Speaker 2>two guys, I mean, one's a comedic actor and the

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<v Speaker 2>other one is a comedian, stand up comedian, So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they they know the value of timing, they know the

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<v Speaker 2>he knows how to do that, but we haven't really

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<v Speaker 2>seen it on the screen, the big screen throughout his career.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the highlight of the acting for me. We

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was very cool. I thought the choices

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<v Speaker 2>that he made were not all that unpredictable. But I

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<v Speaker 2>certain things that you know, active viewing would have showed

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<v Speaker 2>you like, oh yeah, this this, this really drives it

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<v Speaker 2>home here and and encouraging. I. I you know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>never really been a huge I thought this season sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never watched like Master of None or any of

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty Minutes or less was very funny. Jesse Eisenberg and

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<v Speaker 1>and to be perfectly frank, essentially the same message that

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<v Speaker 1>even the criminals in that movie are trying to prove

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<v Speaker 1>themselves to their parents that they can make it economically

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<v Speaker 1>in this society. And that movie's a decade old and

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<v Speaker 1>very similar ideas. For sure.

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<v Speaker 2>What what was the app that he was using? Task something?

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<v Speaker 1>was like there there's a there's a real like task

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<v Speaker 2>So that was a fake app, but that it's based

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, because I've up work is when I've actually been

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<v Speaker 1>on Upward. I've heard of Upward. Yes, there's a number

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<v Speaker 2>So essentially, just to set this plot up for for everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>and sorry, is this struggling guy. I believe he has

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<v Speaker 2>a college degree, master's degree, Yeah, but he can't do

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<v Speaker 2>these odd jobs. He can't seem to get a job anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And Rogan is the flip side of that, where he's

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<v Speaker 2>like this venture capitalist, brilliant type guy. And then Keanu

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<v Speaker 2>revealing too much to say that these guys live different?

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<v Speaker 2>So so Keanu Reeves essentially his character makes these guys

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<v Speaker 2>do a freaky Friday. Yeah, and and then and this

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<v Speaker 2>what I was asking myself because I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>say what the end result was. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>say how they get there. But Ben, if you all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden were transformed into a light where you

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<v Speaker 2>to get it, and you have all but it was,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was at the expense of somebody else who

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<v Speaker 2>was deserving. How difficult would it be for you and

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<v Speaker 2>no one's ever gonna know. Oh yeah, how difficult would

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<v Speaker 2>it be for you to switch back so to your

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<v Speaker 1>Two things about this. First of all, the Freaky Friday format.

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<v Speaker 1>What I loved about this aspect of it was in

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<v Speaker 1>any other version of the Freaky Friday thing, there is

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<v Speaker 1>inevitably the point where both parties involved realized they had

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<v Speaker 1>they had it good back in their original body. This

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<v Speaker 1>one doesn't really give you that feeling at any point

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<v Speaker 1>in a Hollywood kind of way. You kind of feel it,

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<v Speaker 1>but not not in a if that were you in

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<v Speaker 1>real life, you would not be in that mindset, which

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<v Speaker 1>it brings an interesting dynamic. And I oftentimes say it's

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult to be creative in in movies and even

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<v Speaker 1>in video games to a certain extent, because so much

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<v Speaker 1>like improvising on of on a formula that's already out there,

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<v Speaker 1>which is how I thought that was a really nice

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<v Speaker 1>twist on this that makes you think about it. And secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll be real with you, I do not. There

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<v Speaker 1>is an element of this that neither one of us

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<v Speaker 1>in Pennsylvania. It's a prestigious college, a big time Asian

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<v Speaker 1>population there as well. My best friend, one of my

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<v Speaker 1>You're Asian, You're gonna do this, You're gonna become a doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>And he couldn't wake up before eleven o'clock in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>he would miss class all the time, and he ended

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<v Speaker 1>up not going that route in the long run. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's a certain component of that. I myself graduated from

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<v Speaker 1>that school into the Great Recession, and like ap and

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<v Speaker 1>honors classes, all these extracurriculars, you expect these big, grandiose things,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm there bartending with a degree from this institution

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<v Speaker 1>for a while and I'm watching it. I'm sitting there,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you're asking someone who can literally put himself

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<v Speaker 1>in that position. It's like, Hey, if you could have

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<v Speaker 1>pressed the skip button and not dealt with all that,

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<v Speaker 1>not had the awkward Christmas dinners not had all those moments.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I'm a strong enough person to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's my whole thing too.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'll be honest with you, like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that I could do it, except for the family aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of it, Like the idea that I would lose my

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<v Speaker 1>whole life along with that makes it a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a harder conversation. But from the actual nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>And bolts, because nobody knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, he introduced himself to all these people that he

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<v Speaker 1>knew as his own parents or his best friends or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it was, that would be the hard part for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But the actual nuts and bolts of it, the life,

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<v Speaker 1>my life never got that bad what he was dealing with.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you that I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing. It's tough to you know. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you and I have never been sleeping in our car

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<v Speaker 2>right and living not only paycheck to paycheck, but like.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you brushing your teeth that morning?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. I think it's interesting that the choices that Rogan's

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<v Speaker 2>character made when he was on the flip side of this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know where uh, poor you know, and and he

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<v Speaker 2>his next you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, that's an important message, right, and.

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<v Speaker 2>That that's the thing. And then and then think about, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well what happens when a guy who is normally living

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<v Speaker 2>high in the hog and and work to get there? Right? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he he knew what it took to get there,

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<v Speaker 2>and he got there. And look at the decisions he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't surprise me. I mean, I guess maybe it did

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<v Speaker 2>surprise me. There was a lot of the same decisions

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of other people make, oh sure, and

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<v Speaker 2>that that are not very scrupulous.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, And I thought it was a really nice touch.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point they had him go back like he

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<v Speaker 1>has like some high falut and finance job that none

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<v Speaker 1>of us could even really describe it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's sort of like he's sort of like an independent

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<v Speaker 2>contractor for businesses.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say he's a venture capitalist. There's

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<v Speaker 2>probably so there's that, there's an element of that, and

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<v Speaker 2>and he's just he's brilliant when it comes to understanding

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<v Speaker 2>what's gonna be big and he gets in on the

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<v Speaker 2>ground floor, and he makes other businesses better. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>really really smart guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think. I'm sorry, obviously, I don't know if he

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<v Speaker 1>wrote it. I'm gonna have to look that up once

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<v Speaker 1>I stopped making this point here, But but she did.

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<v Speaker 2>And now I think about this. Rogan did saunas, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that how he came up? Yeah, he was a

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<v Speaker 2>big Sauna bro. Yes, And and then that sort of

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<v Speaker 2>parlayed into like he was in the cinemon bun business

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, and and.

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<v Speaker 1>These other Yeah, a bunch of ride share as things.

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<v Speaker 2>Like businesses that want he, Oh, this guy's really smart,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get him to consult for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But I thought it was a nice touch though,

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<v Speaker 1>that he eventually, like once he's in the poor version

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<v Speaker 1>into the company, and they they literally want nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>because while he did work for it, he had connections,

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<v Speaker 1>he had financial stability before he had the job. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just it really hit on so many levels

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<v Speaker 1>for anybody currently involved in the job market right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I oftentimes that this is one of those movies

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<v Speaker 1>that I came out of there and I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those kind of movies because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>a very real problem that like a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>are facing put into this comedy that is making you

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<v Speaker 1>laugh about it. But I guarantee you there were a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people sitting there like, no, I get that.

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<v Speaker 2>What what is this film making a commentary or a

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<v Speaker 2>statement on the gig economy itself? Oh? Absolutely absolutely, and

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<v Speaker 2>saying that it's bad, like this is wrong, We're heading

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<v Speaker 2>in the wrong directions as a nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I couldn't agree with that more. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>tell you right now, in the four years that I

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<v Speaker 1>did it, in the three years that I've been out here,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like forty percent of the of the audience

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<v Speaker 1>that interacts with my show are driving for Uber and

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<v Speaker 1>Lily while they're listening to it, and they'll call in

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<v Speaker 1>for this. That does happened anymore. I used to get

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<v Speaker 2>So it's getting worse.

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<v Speaker 1>It's getting worse as time goes on, as it's monopolizing more.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guarantee you anybody watching those are like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say there's a cartoonish kind of revelation in

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll say this too, like I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>say I expected what happens at the end of this film,

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<v Speaker 2>but I will say it didn't shock me. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>surprised me. Yeah, didn't shock me. Maybe it didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>surprise me. I don't know. I guess I was not

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<v Speaker 2>surprised at the end. There's a lot of there's a

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<v Speaker 2>me that was satisfied, and maybe that's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>I wish we could talk about the ending, because there

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching happened, But then the more I thought

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<v Speaker 1>about the more, I'm like, oh, from a real life perspective,

422
00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:07.519
<v Speaker 1>they can't have this, and like, i'll tell you what

423
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<v Speaker 1>it is off the air. But seeing the ending, I

424
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<v Speaker 1>was disappointed about something and I was like oh, and

425
00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:15.319
<v Speaker 1>then I'm like, oh, well, actually, if I were watching

426
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<v Speaker 1>this movie and living this life, i'd be pissed if

427
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<v Speaker 1>that's how they ended it. So I understand that's not

428
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<v Speaker 1>why they ended it that way, so I can appreciate

429
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<v Speaker 1>that very much. To me, this movie, the best way

430
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<v Speaker 1>I can describe it is if you're familiar with the

431
00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:34.519
<v Speaker 1>term Pollyannish, it kind of I am not. Pollyanna is

432
00:20:34.519 --> 00:20:37.279
<v Speaker 1>who it's based on, and it's like a very naive

433
00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:40.279
<v Speaker 1>take on something. It's used in politics quite a bit.

434
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<v Speaker 1>Well the representatives are here to represent us, and it's like, yeah, okay, man,

435
00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:46.359
<v Speaker 1>but like there's a lot of money in politics, and

436
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<v Speaker 1>that's not what happens, so we can't talk about it.

437
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<v Speaker 2>That's what Pollyanna would say, Yes, okay.

438
00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:54.359
<v Speaker 1>This movie was very Pollyannish in the sense that Aziz

439
00:20:54.480 --> 00:20:56.640
<v Speaker 1>was living in his car, but you know what, the

440
00:20:56.640 --> 00:21:00.240
<v Speaker 1>beautiful woman was into him still, and he and he

441
00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:03.319
<v Speaker 1>had this solid relationship and a lot of people in

442
00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:06.640
<v Speaker 1>that position, that's not what they're going through. Yeah, and

443
00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:09.240
<v Speaker 1>like there was a bit of like an uplifting presence that,

444
00:21:09.359 --> 00:21:11.559
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, can only come from a bunch of

445
00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:15.400
<v Speaker 1>rich people cause playing as poor people and almost pandering

446
00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:18.799
<v Speaker 1>to the audience. Like That's what stuck out to me aggressively,

447
00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:21.079
<v Speaker 1>is that if I were bitter, if I were jaded

448
00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:23.359
<v Speaker 1>right now in my life, I'd be sitting here like, oh,

449
00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:24.839
<v Speaker 1>come on, are you kidding me with this?

450
00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:26.039
<v Speaker 2>Like that?

451
00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:28.759
<v Speaker 1>To me, it's like that's was how I was looking

452
00:21:28.759 --> 00:21:31.960
<v Speaker 1>at this frame. There's very pollyannish view to being poor

453
00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:35.720
<v Speaker 1>right now, very pleasant things are working out that the

454
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<v Speaker 1>employees that kick you out when you're sleeping in the

455
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<v Speaker 1>in the booth also offer to give you a ride,

456
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<v Speaker 1>because there were so many moments.

457
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<v Speaker 2>But I'll say that maybe that that's the problem I

458
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<v Speaker 2>had with this film too, is because I mean, I

459
00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:53.519
<v Speaker 2>think a lot of people probably identified with Thensarry's character, Yeah,

460
00:21:53.559 --> 00:21:55.720
<v Speaker 2>but maybe not the type of people that are going

461
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<v Speaker 2>to the movies to see this. Oh sure, sure, I

462
00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:03.640
<v Speaker 2>did not identify with anybody I try to put myself

463
00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:07.000
<v Speaker 2>in this film. Obviously I can't identify with Rogan's character. Sure,

464
00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:09.559
<v Speaker 2>really struggle to identify with n Sorry's character for the

465
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<v Speaker 2>most part, and I'm not an angel. Yeah, and I

466
00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:16.039
<v Speaker 2>don't have this this willingness to save souls because I

467
00:22:16.079 --> 00:22:19.440
<v Speaker 2>can't save souls, so so to put you know, I

468
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<v Speaker 2>try to put myself. I think I tried to put

469
00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:24.880
<v Speaker 2>myself in in Sorry's shoes towards the end, but I

470
00:22:24.920 --> 00:22:27.279
<v Speaker 2>really couldn't place myself in this movie. Were you able

471
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<v Speaker 2>to successful?

472
00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:31.079
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely? I mean Sorry, Yeah, And I mean I even

473
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<v Speaker 1>was involved in the they do a unionization plot line.

474
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna ask you about that too. That's

475
00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:38.440
<v Speaker 2>sort of Keiky Palmer's role in this. Like obviously she's

476
00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:41.759
<v Speaker 2>like the girl in this, the female lead. Not even

477
00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:44.079
<v Speaker 2>that she's a lead, but she's the one female character

478
00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:46.839
<v Speaker 2>we have in this that's sort of in Sorry's love interest.

479
00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:51.880
<v Speaker 2>And her big thing is trying to unionize employees at

480
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<v Speaker 2>what seems like a home depot.

481
00:22:53.839 --> 00:22:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Lows type of Yeah. Yeah, it's not a real place.

482
00:22:56.920 --> 00:22:58.960
<v Speaker 1>It's not either of the hardware or something. I can't

483
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<v Speaker 1>remember that, and it's a it's a major chain that

484
00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:03.920
<v Speaker 1>screws people around. What's interesting is I was involved in

485
00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:06.200
<v Speaker 1>that kind of process. I did the whole thing. But

486
00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:09.119
<v Speaker 1>the entire staff was on board with it. It was

487
00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:11.880
<v Speaker 1>management trying to shut it down. This was an entirely

488
00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:14.559
<v Speaker 1>different conversation. And what's cool is, I don't know if

489
00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:20.240
<v Speaker 1>you noticed it. Every single plot line was some version

490
00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:23.960
<v Speaker 1>of your attitude towards work. Even Keanu reeves that you

491
00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:26.640
<v Speaker 1>said it's difficult to relate to as an angel. His

492
00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:32.480
<v Speaker 1>whole storyline was, I feel like I'm undervalued in my position. More. Yeah,

493
00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:34.799
<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing, which is another common.

494
00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Work, Okay, And that's not that's there's no compensation obviously,

495
00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:42.680
<v Speaker 2>it's just a a willingness to work. It is a

496
00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:48.799
<v Speaker 2>wanting a useful purpose. Sure, and he felt like his purpose,

497
00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:52.720
<v Speaker 2>while useful, did not suit his capabilities.

498
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and it was coming to Grips with maybe you

499
00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:58.240
<v Speaker 1>are doing what you're suited for. Like, there's also that

500
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<v Speaker 1>element of it. So like there was the Keky Palmer

501
00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:03.720
<v Speaker 1>and the and the unionization and coming to Grips with

502
00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:06.279
<v Speaker 1>it's not a glamorous life, but this is the little

503
00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:08.880
<v Speaker 1>niche that you're trying to carve out for yourself. That's

504
00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:11.880
<v Speaker 1>something that people can relate to. Even Seth Rogan's character

505
00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:15.480
<v Speaker 1>of trying to find purpose, like, once you've made that

506
00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:17.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of money, he's all drugs and party, which is

507
00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:19.160
<v Speaker 1>fun from the outside.

508
00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:23.359
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I'll say this too, I think it's obviously

509
00:24:24.039 --> 00:24:28.279
<v Speaker 2>very easy to play that character as an unlikable one. Yeah.

510
00:24:28.359 --> 00:24:31.599
<v Speaker 2>I thought he's very likable even when he was rich, yes,

511
00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:34.680
<v Speaker 2>or when he is rich or was whatever you want

512
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<v Speaker 2>to say, which is.

513
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<v Speaker 1>Part of the polyan in my opinion.

514
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<v Speaker 2>Well, but okay, I just feel like the way he

515
00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:45.599
<v Speaker 2>talked to him, sorry, and the way it was shot

516
00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:48.640
<v Speaker 2>with only him in scenes. Yeah, he didn't come off

517
00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:49.720
<v Speaker 2>as like this prick.

518
00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:51.240
<v Speaker 1>It humanized him for sure.

519
00:24:51.319 --> 00:24:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, And he came off as like one

520
00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:58.759
<v Speaker 2>of these guys that like he didn't see I don't

521
00:24:58.759 --> 00:25:03.559
<v Speaker 2>think he sees people, anybody as beneath him.

522
00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:04.319
<v Speaker 1>I know.

523
00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:07.279
<v Speaker 2>I think he treated everybody the same. He put them

524
00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:09.440
<v Speaker 2>all in the same place, even though he's a goodly

525
00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:12.240
<v Speaker 2>rich has all this stuff and sorry, shows up at

526
00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:14.200
<v Speaker 2>his house with like a duct tape bumper on his

527
00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:15.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, car or whatever.

528
00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Very opposite of the vibe of parasite. If you saw

529
00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Parasite back and that was they hire the assistance, and

530
00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:24.799
<v Speaker 1>there's a very clear delineation of you are the servants

531
00:25:24.799 --> 00:25:26.799
<v Speaker 1>and we are the wealthy people. Which this took a

532
00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:27.920
<v Speaker 1>very different route there.

533
00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:31.079
<v Speaker 2>There was the season finale, season three finale, if Darryl

534
00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:34.839
<v Speaker 2>Dixon was on this past Sunday, and there's a scene

535
00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:39.960
<v Speaker 2>where this you know, very rich community in Spain, the

536
00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:44.200
<v Speaker 2>wealthy there, they they hire workers and you know, to

537
00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:46.319
<v Speaker 2>like serve them or whatever. They have this big banquet

538
00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:48.720
<v Speaker 2>and they have servers bringing them wine and food or whatever,

539
00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.039
<v Speaker 2>and they make all the servers wear masks so they

540
00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:55.680
<v Speaker 2>don't have to look the workers in the eyes, you know.

541
00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:58.640
<v Speaker 2>And that was the opposite of Rogan. You know, I

542
00:25:58.839 --> 00:26:02.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't, I don't. I don't feel like he talked

543
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:05.920
<v Speaker 2>down to any Honestly, the only time he became unlikable

544
00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:08.640
<v Speaker 2>was when he became ornery, and that's when he was

545
00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:11.920
<v Speaker 2>in a similar situation in Sorry's character. And I don't

546
00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:14.039
<v Speaker 2>even think Danny he was all that unlikable. He was

547
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:17.160
<v Speaker 2>actually the most relatable, most relatable then exactly, Yeah, when

548
00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:20.119
<v Speaker 2>he was when he was going through that. Yeah, And

549
00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:22.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean to be frank, And that's kind of the

550
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:25.720
<v Speaker 2>point of parasite as well. You should be seth rogen

551
00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:28.680
<v Speaker 2>in that lifestyle, you know what, I mean we talk,

552
00:26:28.759 --> 00:26:30.880
<v Speaker 2>and I say this as a media member. I've worked,

553
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:33.319
<v Speaker 2>I've painted for a living, I've bartended, and I've said

554
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:36.240
<v Speaker 2>on my show a dozen times over I could focus

555
00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:38.799
<v Speaker 2>on show crafting for fourteen hours, I will not be

556
00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:41.640
<v Speaker 2>half as tired as a six hour shift bartending from

557
00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:42.279
<v Speaker 2>four to ten.

558
00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:44.920
<v Speaker 1>We oftimes like, oh, I gotta work, I gotta go

559
00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:46.839
<v Speaker 1>to this meeting. I gotta go to that meeting. When

560
00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:49.200
<v Speaker 1>his ease, I'm sorry, becomes wealthy and he's like, oh,

561
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I got a big day planned, and they go to

562
00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:54.279
<v Speaker 1>some Japanese restaurant and they talk business for thirteen seconds

563
00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:57.039
<v Speaker 1>and then talk about life. Yes, it's a meeting. Yes,

564
00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:00.720
<v Speaker 1>there's large dollar amounts involved, Like realistically in the grand

565
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:05.559
<v Speaker 1>scheme of work, really not that particularly difficult exactly.

566
00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean, if if you could give me

567
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:09.720
<v Speaker 2>where I have to just say yes or no on

568
00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:13.920
<v Speaker 2>something for one question. Yeah, and then I have a

569
00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:16.119
<v Speaker 2>two hour sushi lunch. Right, that's not.

570
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Work, No, No, it isn't. There's big dollar sums and

571
00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:21.559
<v Speaker 1>I I was involved in in in sales projects that

572
00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>were multimillion dollar sales projects, high level stuff that has

573
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:28.279
<v Speaker 1>like big outcomes when you make a decision, but not

574
00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:31.640
<v Speaker 1>hard work, like by any stretch of the imagination. And

575
00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:34.440
<v Speaker 1>they touch on that there were so many elements of this.

576
00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:38.960
<v Speaker 1>The whole thing was was a commentary on work, finding

577
00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:41.759
<v Speaker 1>value in yourself? How much does your job really even

578
00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:44.599
<v Speaker 1>define you? And so many other of those different factors

579
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:46.440
<v Speaker 1>that I'll be real.

580
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:48.920
<v Speaker 2>How much how much does your employer see you? That's

581
00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:51.720
<v Speaker 2>another one you know too, like what is you know?

582
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:55.119
<v Speaker 2>And then and then battling with this this your self

583
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:58.039
<v Speaker 2>perception of yourself when you know how you're being treated

584
00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:01.839
<v Speaker 2>by everybody else yourself your own self worth, yeah, which

585
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:06.079
<v Speaker 2>was key. And then Sorry's evolution, his character evolution of

586
00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:10.559
<v Speaker 2>like how do I find value in in this life?

587
00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:13.000
<v Speaker 2>How do I find self purpose in this life? How

588
00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:16.680
<v Speaker 2>do I find joy in this life? That's really really

589
00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:20.279
<v Speaker 2>hard and it's really really difficult to find those things. Oh,

590
00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:23.359
<v Speaker 2>for sure, he needed to. He had to. I had

591
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:24.079
<v Speaker 2>to find a way.

592
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:26.559
<v Speaker 1>I would have loved to add a scene to that

593
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.000
<v Speaker 1>movie from my own life because I like, you know,

594
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:32.119
<v Speaker 1>he's waiting in line, which I never had to do

595
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:32.960
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff.

596
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was part of this task. App or Yeah,

597
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:37.440
<v Speaker 2>like someone had to wait people to pay him to

598
00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:41.480
<v Speaker 2>stand in line for them to pick up something.

599
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:44.599
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, And there were times like I am very

600
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>you've seen me. I'm not super phone centric. And there's

601
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:49.480
<v Speaker 1>a there's a real life story in my life where

602
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I was standing waiting for the food to be made

603
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:52.839
<v Speaker 1>that I was going to drive to someone. I was

604
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.000
<v Speaker 1>doing like a door dash thing and I stare at people,

605
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>but I don't stare at them. I stare through them,

606
00:28:57.880 --> 00:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>like I zone out and I'm thinking, but like my

607
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>eyes are directly locked.

608
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:02.519
<v Speaker 2>It looks like you're staring at Yeah.

609
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And I got called out by a dude like

610
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>eating scrambled eggs, big scruff guy with honestly with your

611
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of beard, and he looks at me really grizzly,

612
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>is like, can I help you with something? And I

613
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:16.319
<v Speaker 1>was like, I was surrounded by four other door dashers

614
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:18.599
<v Speaker 1>and looking at their phone, and I went, I guess

615
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:20.359
<v Speaker 1>not that I pulled my phone out and just started

616
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:23.079
<v Speaker 1>scrolling nothing because I did vating the scroll and like

617
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:25.200
<v Speaker 1>this felt like that kind of like there was a

618
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:27.799
<v Speaker 1>montage of him having those kind of moments. I'm like, oh,

619
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I have my own this moment, and I like it's

620
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:34.519
<v Speaker 1>just it. It nailed me, like, I think I liked

621
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>this movie. It had. I looked the reviews up before this,

622
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:39.759
<v Speaker 1>and people seemed to really yeah, digging it. But I

623
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:42.960
<v Speaker 1>think I liked this movie more than the mean, more

624
00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:43.799
<v Speaker 1>than the average.

625
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I think it's I think the character at least since Yeah,

626
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:50.079
<v Speaker 2>it was not because I never door dashed. Yeah, I've

627
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:53.680
<v Speaker 2>never been in a position where I was living paycheck

628
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:57.319
<v Speaker 2>to paycheck ever, you know, even even sure you know,

629
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<v Speaker 2>in my early twenties or whatever, when I probably should

630
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<v Speaker 2>have which probably should have been maybe I just didn't

631
00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:04.160
<v Speaker 2>have enough fun. That was the other thing with Keanu

632
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Reeves looking at his first paycheck when you start that

633
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<v Speaker 2>was that was very funny.

634
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<v Speaker 1>There were a couple of lines that got me hard

635
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:12.599
<v Speaker 1>in that movie that got me hard.

636
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:19.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Robots, that's it turns ben common hit me hard

637
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:23.920
<v Speaker 2>that movie. No, I think that like every time he

638
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:27.680
<v Speaker 2>delivered the line of of like and spend money on

639
00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:30.759
<v Speaker 2>things that are fun, like I mean this is like

640
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:33.200
<v Speaker 2>right out of like nineteen eighty four, like some sort

641
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<v Speaker 2>of like weird robot that is living among us, or

642
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:38.799
<v Speaker 2>just because he said it like three different times. Yeah,

643
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:43.000
<v Speaker 2>chicken nuggies, Yeah, and chicken nuggies the when he's eating

644
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:45.799
<v Speaker 2>for the first time and he doesn't know how to, like.

645
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:48.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this movie's actually growing on me while we're talking

646
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:48.960
<v Speaker 1>about it.

647
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:53.359
<v Speaker 2>That's that that that Rogan you know. And that's the

648
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:56.319
<v Speaker 2>other thing too, is like, you know Rogan's you used

649
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<v Speaker 2>to his characters used to eating it like that, that

650
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:01.839
<v Speaker 2>fancy restaurant that yeah ended in Sorry's character and then

651
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:07.359
<v Speaker 2>he just goes and and uh and to this burger

652
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:11.759
<v Speaker 2>place fer fries and or burger chicken, nuggies and milkshake,

653
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:15.160
<v Speaker 2>and he was totally at home doing that right. And

654
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:17.519
<v Speaker 2>then the way that they all related towards the end

655
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:19.319
<v Speaker 2>of the movie, I think within the last fifteen minutes

656
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:23.839
<v Speaker 2>about the two things that they love most on Earth,

657
00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:26.799
<v Speaker 2>and they all agree that's they're all three of theirs

658
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:29.279
<v Speaker 2>their favorite two things. Like that was that was pretty

659
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:33.200
<v Speaker 2>good too, So yeah, I mean there's it was fine.

660
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:36.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just unless we can get into the ratings,

661
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:38.960
<v Speaker 2>unless you have something else to say, Oh no, I'm

662
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.400
<v Speaker 2>pretty cashed out on everything I wanted to bring up.

663
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very simple movie, very very you know, you.

664
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<v Speaker 2>Know, and I think that the whole thing that we

665
00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:50.839
<v Speaker 2>have to explain to people. I don't remember what podcasts

666
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:54.119
<v Speaker 2>we were doing, which episode we're doing. But we brought

667
00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:58.240
<v Speaker 2>up this Good Fortune movie and you said you got

668
00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:00.480
<v Speaker 2>to see the trailer for this, and I watch it

669
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:02.400
<v Speaker 2>and I agreed with you, and I said this that

670
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:07.839
<v Speaker 2>if there's one reason we're doing we're watching this movie

671
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:10.319
<v Speaker 2>is because of Keanu Reeves acting like we have to

672
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:13.599
<v Speaker 2>see we can't just limit ourselves to a two minute trailer.

673
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:15.839
<v Speaker 2>We have to see the full one hundred minutes of

674
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:19.519
<v Speaker 2>Keanu Reeves pulling this off. So this is not a

675
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:23.359
<v Speaker 2>film I probably would have normally seen. You know, I agree,

676
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:26.759
<v Speaker 2>But the trailer and your recommendation of why we should

677
00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:30.000
<v Speaker 2>watch this movie was enough. I'm glad I saw it once.

678
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:32.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how rewatchable this is. I don't think

679
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:34.920
<v Speaker 2>it's grown on me as much as it's grown on you.

680
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:38.880
<v Speaker 2>But again, it's that comes to me. Relatable characters for

681
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:41.079
<v Speaker 2>me in this movie just were not non existent. And

682
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:43.319
<v Speaker 2>maybe that's a good thing for my for my life.

683
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's a bad thing for how I interact with

684
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:46.160
<v Speaker 2>people in society.

685
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Sure, and to be to be perfectly frank, though I

686
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.079
<v Speaker 1>also at times was pulling my phone out and scrolling

687
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Oh really, I'm like, okay, yeah, because

688
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>there were there were times I thought there were some

689
00:32:56.279 --> 00:33:00.039
<v Speaker 1>cookie cutter yes, I founding. I found parts of the

690
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:04.319
<v Speaker 1>movie to be boring, but then other parts very engaging. Again,

691
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.599
<v Speaker 1>it's just it kind of wasn't very even. But again

692
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>for a first effort. Yeah, I did like the.

693
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.599
<v Speaker 2>Not knowing how these three actors would all be tied

694
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:17.240
<v Speaker 2>together in this movie. I mean I knew that they

695
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:18.559
<v Speaker 2>would be, and I didn't know how, and it was

696
00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:19.559
<v Speaker 2>kind of cool to see that.

697
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't either. I went in super blind into

698
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>this and as I normally do, but like normally I

699
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:28.640
<v Speaker 1>at least have some concept of the plot, like other

700
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.640
<v Speaker 1>than weapons. I don't know that I've gone in more

701
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:35.559
<v Speaker 1>like completely ambiguously than I did this movie, you know,

702
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>so pleasantly surprised. But I said, you're doing ratings first

703
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:42.279
<v Speaker 1>because five and a half, okay, I was gonna go six.

704
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I felt like you were going to be

705
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:47.759
<v Speaker 2>higher than me on this. It's fine. This to me

706
00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:54.039
<v Speaker 2>felt like, and maybe I'm being cynical, it felt like

707
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:56.599
<v Speaker 2>a movie where and Sorry could get back out there

708
00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:02.039
<v Speaker 2>with two well known actors and Ye become a more

709
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:05.920
<v Speaker 2>likable guy play a likable character and people start being like, Hey,

710
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:07.839
<v Speaker 2>this guy's pretty fuck I remember this guy from Parks

711
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:09.639
<v Speaker 2>and whatever happened to him. I'm glad he's back. I'm

712
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 2>glad he's doing all this stuff now, you know. And

713
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:13.800
<v Speaker 2>I know he's done stuff since Parks and rec or whatever,

714
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:17.119
<v Speaker 2>but it hasn't been on this level of stage. And listen,

715
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:19.280
<v Speaker 2>they always say on Saturday Night Live. Not that I've

716
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:21.199
<v Speaker 2>ever worked there, it'd be cool to work there, they

717
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:24.280
<v Speaker 2>always say on Saturday Night Live. If you are in

718
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:26.800
<v Speaker 2>the cast and you're also a writer, you need to

719
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:29.599
<v Speaker 2>write stuff for yourself or you'll never get out there.

720
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:31.400
<v Speaker 2>And what it in. Sorry, I don't know if he

721
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:34.599
<v Speaker 2>got writing credit on this, oh right, yeah, but I

722
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:37.320
<v Speaker 2>do know he directed it. I do know he was

723
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:40.440
<v Speaker 2>the protagonist of this story, more so than Rogan, more

724
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:43.360
<v Speaker 2>so than Keanu Reeves. So if you are if you

725
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:45.920
<v Speaker 2>do want to get back in the public eye and

726
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:49.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, and become likable again, this is a great

727
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:51.920
<v Speaker 2>way to do it. And he ends up directing and

728
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:54.039
<v Speaker 2>starring it. He wrote it, and he wrote it, So

729
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:56.440
<v Speaker 2>there you go, So write stuff for yourself and to

730
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:58.239
<v Speaker 2>me after I saw it him like this kind of

731
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:02.039
<v Speaker 2>feels like it's self serving for his career. But should

732
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:03.079
<v Speaker 2>we all be self serving?

733
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh of course, Yeah, that's ridiculous.

734
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:07.679
<v Speaker 2>If you're not going to promote yourself, no one else

735
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:08.119
<v Speaker 2>is gonna do.

736
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:10.760
<v Speaker 1>It for you one thousand percent. And I will also

737
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:14.079
<v Speaker 1>say so, I came out of that movie thinking to myself,

738
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, AZ's I'm sorry, plays the same character in

739
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:20.719
<v Speaker 1>every like. It's not acting, it's just he can deliver lines. Well,

740
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:23.159
<v Speaker 1>you know who else i'd say that about Seth Rogan.

741
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:26.199
<v Speaker 1>You know who else i'd say that about. It was

742
00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:28.840
<v Speaker 1>a movie of three people that I think don't necessarily

743
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:31.039
<v Speaker 1>act like. You even made a comment. I don't know

744
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:32.599
<v Speaker 1>if it was on your show or my show, but

745
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:36.079
<v Speaker 1>you said Seth Rogan basically plays a richer version of himself. Totally.

746
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I'd argue he plays himself in every single movie. I

747
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:40.079
<v Speaker 1>think they even make a joke about that. And this

748
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:42.599
<v Speaker 1>is the end. It's just the same. They have the

749
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:45.199
<v Speaker 1>Seth Rogan laugh in there, They do all that kind

750
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:48.920
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. Keanu reeves, whether he's fighting bots in the

751
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:52.079
<v Speaker 1>matrix or you know, freaking what is a point break

752
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:54.199
<v Speaker 1>or any of the bank it's the same. It's the

753
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:57.920
<v Speaker 1>same character and Disease is uh, yeah, I'm telling you

754
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:00.119
<v Speaker 1>watch thirty minutes or less. You'll be like, oh, so

755
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:03.039
<v Speaker 1>he's just doing thirty minutes. He did this movie like

756
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:05.360
<v Speaker 1>to be frank, I think it was well written. But

757
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:08.559
<v Speaker 1>I also think he went on Reddit and went to

758
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:11.679
<v Speaker 1>a couple of them. Now now I wrote it from there.

759
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:14.599
<v Speaker 2>Imagine this because I know a lot of people thought

760
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.360
<v Speaker 2>it was an interesting casting choice when Jack Black got

761
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:20.840
<v Speaker 2>cast in King Kong. Remember that. Oh sure, imagine a

762
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:23.199
<v Speaker 2>he's in, sorry, playing Jack Black's character in that movie.

763
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:26.920
<v Speaker 2>It'd be really weird. And it's because I don't think

764
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:28.800
<v Speaker 2>he has the range. Jack Black probably has the range

765
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.000
<v Speaker 2>to do something like that. But and sorry, like I

766
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:34.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know, man, it's just he kind of type cast

767
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:38.239
<v Speaker 2>himself and that's probably what he wanted to do. Yeah,

768
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:41.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, and and maybe we'll see another This is

769
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:44.719
<v Speaker 2>probably not the last we've seen then. Sorry, writing starring

770
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:46.079
<v Speaker 2>and directing in his own vehicle.

771
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:49.920
<v Speaker 1>But I also will say, and I don't know Disease, right,

772
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I've never met him. But I also like, I think

773
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.679
<v Speaker 1>there's some people that are in Hollywood or in music,

774
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>or in any of these major high profile positions that

775
00:36:57.559 --> 00:36:59.079
<v Speaker 1>are there because they realize it's a way to make

776
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>unlimited money. Like I don't think Kevin Hart does what

777
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:04.840
<v Speaker 1>he does to reinvent comedy. He's like, oh, I have

778
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:05.800
<v Speaker 1>nine figures.

779
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Might no, But I mean, I don't think you need

780
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:11.440
<v Speaker 2>to be in the business to be a game changer.

781
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:13.400
<v Speaker 2>I think you can just be in the business because

782
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:15.840
<v Speaker 2>you enjoy doing it. But people are paying you on

783
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:17.400
<v Speaker 2>godly amounts of money to do it.

784
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:20.239
<v Speaker 1>That's just it. Though I don't think Ausease is an artist.

785
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I think Jack Black is an artist. I think he

786
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:24.159
<v Speaker 1>actually tries to whether or not you.

787
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:27.599
<v Speaker 3>Like it or not is a different Yes, that is

788
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:31.800
<v Speaker 3>another Madonna for I'd even say Jim carry Jim Carris

789
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:34.199
<v Speaker 3>an actor in Hollywood for a little But I'm not

790
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:35.519
<v Speaker 3>saying you can't make money and do it.

791
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:37.599
<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying he's like, no, I'm doing this the

792
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:39.239
<v Speaker 1>way I want to do it, and it's going to

793
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:42.679
<v Speaker 1>be unique to me. And however that be. Jack Black

794
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:44.400
<v Speaker 1>can go in those rules, Jim Carrey can go in

795
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>those Adam Sandler can go and.

796
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:49.559
<v Speaker 2>One too, and like, but I would make the argument

797
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:53.679
<v Speaker 2>that who's the guy he's in Phantom Thread. There will

798
00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:58.599
<v Speaker 2>be blood Lincoln. Why can I not think of this guy, big, huge, Hollywood.

799
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>What's his name? Hired? Yeah, it's like three names.

800
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:06.679
<v Speaker 2>Daniel, Daniel Davids, Daniel da Lewis right. Yeah, that dude

801
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:11.840
<v Speaker 2>will will do things where he he will only do

802
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:15.480
<v Speaker 2>things if he feels creatively fulfilled, yes, and and he

803
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:19.159
<v Speaker 2>will not he won't do other things if he doesn't.

804
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:22.800
<v Speaker 2>I think if he doesn't feel like he's doing something

805
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:26.039
<v Speaker 2>noteworthy or meaningful, then he's not going to do it.

806
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:29.159
<v Speaker 2>There's other people and I would fall into this category.

807
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh hey, do you want me to work on this

808
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:35.360
<v Speaker 2>movie for six months? Where comedy and like, I've done

809
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:37.159
<v Speaker 2>this type of movie before. But you're gonna pay me

810
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:40.639
<v Speaker 2>three million bucks or whatever? Yeah, I'm gonna do it.

811
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't feel like you. I don't feel

812
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.119
<v Speaker 2>like you have to have a need to reinvent the game,

813
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:50.920
<v Speaker 2>to to be in the industry, to be looked upon favorably.

814
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it hurts. You know, there's you know,

815
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:56.960
<v Speaker 2>if people call me a sellout, if I was doing that, yeah,

816
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:59.199
<v Speaker 2>I probably did sell out. The South Park guys. I

817
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:02.800
<v Speaker 2>think I told you about this, Trey Parker, Matt Stone,

818
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:05.679
<v Speaker 2>this is years ago, probably two decades ago, and somebody

819
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:08.320
<v Speaker 2>asked them if they had sold out, you know, and

820
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:10.280
<v Speaker 2>I can't. I don't know if it was with a bigger,

821
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:12.880
<v Speaker 2>longer on cut movie or Basketball or or Gasmo or

822
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:15.840
<v Speaker 2>whatever it was. But Trey Parker basically said, look, the

823
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:19.519
<v Speaker 2>plan all along was to sell out, like this is

824
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:21.480
<v Speaker 2>what we've been trying to do, and now we finally

825
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:23.639
<v Speaker 2>have the opportunity. And you know what, they're worth one

826
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:26.559
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand billion million dollars now, you know.

827
00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:29.199
<v Speaker 1>So exactly, And there's a sweet sput I just I.

828
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Don't And by the way, they can still do stuff

829
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:35.440
<v Speaker 2>that I think they enjoy that makes them feel creatively

830
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:37.760
<v Speaker 2>fulfilled too. To give them their own self purpose, to

831
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:40.599
<v Speaker 2>give them their you know, their their own usefulness in society.

832
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:43.039
<v Speaker 1>There's a very famous story. A lot of people will

833
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:45.039
<v Speaker 1>tell you he was a dick behind the scenes as well.

834
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:48.199
<v Speaker 1>But in the fourth Diehard movie, Live Free or Die

835
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:50.639
<v Speaker 1>Hard with Justin Long and all that, yeah, Bruce Willis

836
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<v Speaker 1>was behind the scenes and he would tell people, I

837
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<v Speaker 1>view myself as the keeper of the lore of John mclady.

838
00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:58.519
<v Speaker 1>He said, the directors change, the writers change, the rest

839
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:01.239
<v Speaker 1>of the cast changes. I'm always here doing this, and

840
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<v Speaker 1>when something would happen out of character, he'd be like, no,

841
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<v Speaker 1>this isn't what he would do when we're going to

842
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<v Speaker 1>do this. I get that in the fifth one, which

843
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<v Speaker 1>everyone would agree is by far the worst one.

844
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<v Speaker 2>Who is in that one Y Courtney when he goes

845
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<v Speaker 2>his son and daughter yeah, and he goes.

846
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, trash ass movie. He will go out and say, yeah,

847
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:21.199
<v Speaker 1>that was a paycheck movie. And you can tell in

848
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:22.599
<v Speaker 1>the way it kind of carries, and this is what

849
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:25.119
<v Speaker 1>he did. Another one right, No, and that's what the

850
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:28.159
<v Speaker 1>big blockbuster action movie that you wouldn't assume his art,

851
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:30.800
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't assume you know, it's creative. But he took

852
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:33.280
<v Speaker 1>it seriously. And that's all I ever asked for in movies.

853
00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:35.280
<v Speaker 1>And again I do not know his ease, but he

854
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:38.159
<v Speaker 1>seems like somebody clinging, like trying to get in there,

855
00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:39.920
<v Speaker 1>and he'll just I'll just throw crap at the wall,

856
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, you know.

857
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:44.280
<v Speaker 2>You could make the case he's trying to get back yeah,

858
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:46.880
<v Speaker 2>and then once he gets back in there, it's whatever

859
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:48.760
<v Speaker 2>he can make his uncut gems.

860
00:40:48.760 --> 00:40:51.960
<v Speaker 1>But something like that, it genuinely felt like an episode

861
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:54.400
<v Speaker 1>of outside the box and all I ever do is

862
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:57.679
<v Speaker 1>scour the internet for people's lived experiences. And it seems

863
00:40:57.679 --> 00:40:59.400
<v Speaker 1>like he did that and was like, I'm gonna just

864
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:02.039
<v Speaker 1>write a script. Are around that and like that? To me,

865
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:04.320
<v Speaker 1>it's nice. It felt like he was speaking to a

866
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:06.840
<v Speaker 1>real thing people were feeling. But like, is he an artist?

867
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.079
<v Speaker 1>Is it is that? Is this going to set the stage?

868
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:11.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't expect to see him win an oscar anytime now,

869
00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:13.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like that's kind of how I look at it.

870
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's the voice thing. I need to keep coming

871
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:19.360
<v Speaker 2>back to it. But that prevents him from doing a

872
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:22.719
<v Speaker 2>lot of things. Yeah, it's the popular culture and in

873
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:26.119
<v Speaker 2>the film and television industry, which is fine. I mean

874
00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:28.280
<v Speaker 2>we all get and and you know what, it makes

875
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:31.719
<v Speaker 2>him great as Tom and Parks.

876
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:33.119
<v Speaker 1>And oh yeah he was on points.

877
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:35.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, he was awesome that. Yeah.

878
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:38.320
<v Speaker 1>So, which that's a lot of sitcoms, like who from

879
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:41.159
<v Speaker 1>friends other than Jennifer Aniston really went on to do anything.

880
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Nobody because they were Chandler was Chandler. Phoebe feb Well.

881
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Matthew Perry did go on to make some some movies.

882
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:49.079
<v Speaker 1>They all did some stuff, but none of them were successful.

883
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Courtney Cox was in the screen movies, you know, Yeah,

884
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>well that was successful. It was fine.

885
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:54.960
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I mean you could make the case

886
00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:58.079
<v Speaker 2>of what did Jennifer Anderson do as as an actor

887
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:01.119
<v Speaker 2>after Friends? I mean, I I don't really put her

888
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 2>at a level above any of these, I guess I

889
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:06.079
<v Speaker 2>mean the breakup with Vince Vaughn.

890
00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Horrible Bosses.

891
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Horrible Bosses. What was the other one she did with Saedeikas. Yeah,

892
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:12.039
<v Speaker 2>they to Harvey.

893
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Where the Millers. Yeah, I mean it's just like that.

894
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:16.760
<v Speaker 2>That's whole nine yards, that's scream, that's You're not Rob

895
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:20.599
<v Speaker 2>and Michelle's high school regunion. That's all the same crap. Yeah,

896
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:24.320
<v Speaker 2>you're not wrong, it's ed. Remember matt leb with the Orangutan?

897
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and David swim anything. He was the husband

898
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:28.679
<v Speaker 1>in Six Days, Six.

899
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:30.639
<v Speaker 2>Day, Seven Nights. He was in that. He did the

900
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:33.320
<v Speaker 2>goose Bumps, uh, which was good ship.

901
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:35.800
<v Speaker 1>That was so good. I didn't see the second season.

902
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:36.880
<v Speaker 1>This was so good. He was.

903
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.920
<v Speaker 2>He was really good in I can't remember what season.

904
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:42.960
<v Speaker 2>It was a Kirby Enthusiasm where he and Larry David

905
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:44.000
<v Speaker 2>were the producers.

906
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

907
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:48.599
<v Speaker 2>But as far as films go. I feel like he

908
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:51.159
<v Speaker 2>was in some like he had these supporting role type

909
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:54.800
<v Speaker 2>things where and like, you know, serious roles. You know,

910
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:55.960
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't comedic.

911
00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:58.599
<v Speaker 1>And he was the star in an AMC show that

912
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:01.440
<v Speaker 1>only lasted one season. It was actually pretty legit, and

913
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:03.760
<v Speaker 1>it was it was what's the one with the dude

914
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:06.400
<v Speaker 1>where he's he works in the kitchen? That's like really, oh,

915
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the Bear? It was the Bear before it was the Bear.

916
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:10.519
<v Speaker 1>It was called like the Beast, and it was about

917
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:13.159
<v Speaker 1>two brothers to try and open a open a restaurant

918
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:15.559
<v Speaker 1>together and they essentially use mob money to kind of

919
00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:16.079
<v Speaker 1>get a role.

920
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:18.679
<v Speaker 2>Did he play both? Was it like a twin brothers?

921
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:21.599
<v Speaker 1>Not that I don't remember who the supplemental rule was.

922
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll have to look that up. I peaked my interest

923
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:25.239
<v Speaker 1>and it never got a second season, so no one

924
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:27.199
<v Speaker 1>else cared. But I enjoyed the show.

925
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you're right. I mean for film, I can't really.

926
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:32.159
<v Speaker 1>But I say all that to say so saying a

927
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:35.039
<v Speaker 1>member of a sitcom really doesn't have a big future

928
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:37.760
<v Speaker 1>movies ahead, it is actually the norm rather than it is,

929
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:40.079
<v Speaker 1>because I'd argue Parks and rec while very funny and

930
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:42.320
<v Speaker 1>very popular, It's not what Friends or Seinfel was.

931
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Chris Pratt turned into a pretty successful movie career. Yeah,

932
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Parks and rec Yeah, it can be done. It can't

933
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:51.639
<v Speaker 2>be Julia Louise Dreyfus, Julia Dreyfus that you could make

934
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:55.480
<v Speaker 2>the cases much more popular now after doing VP.

935
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Now she's got this Marvel deal going, which it's only

936
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:01.199
<v Speaker 1>going to blow her up. So I mean, yeah, it

937
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:02.960
<v Speaker 1>can happen. It's not going to happen for his ease,

938
00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 1>but it can happen out there. I think we're all

939
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:06.880
<v Speaker 1>done here.

940
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah we are.

941
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, next week, I'll be real with you. I'm down

942
00:44:11.960 --> 00:44:16.519
<v Speaker 1>to still do this. What's it called Badega, But I'm

943
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:19.119
<v Speaker 1>down to do that. I will say so. The ticket

944
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:21.440
<v Speaker 1>taker at the at the theater has gotten to know

945
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:23.800
<v Speaker 1>me and we have conversations every time I go in

946
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:26.000
<v Speaker 1>now and I was like, you know this, this horror

947
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:28.159
<v Speaker 1>season is kind of sucked, and she's like, I agree,

948
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:29.920
<v Speaker 1>And this is the first movie that we have seen

949
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:31.639
<v Speaker 1>that she has not seen it. She's like, i've heard

950
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:33.559
<v Speaker 1>mixed reviews on this. I can't tell you if it's

951
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:36.119
<v Speaker 1>good or not. And I was like yeah. She was like,

952
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:38.519
<v Speaker 1>I saw black Phone too, and then and this other one,

953
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:40.639
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I honestly, god, I hated black

954
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:43.519
<v Speaker 1>Phone one. America loved that. She's like me too. She's

955
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:45.599
<v Speaker 1>like this second one had some Freddy Krueger in it.

956
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:47.199
<v Speaker 1>She's like, it was about your dreams and it was

957
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:49.559
<v Speaker 1>all this. I'm like, oh. I was like, well, you

958
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:50.519
<v Speaker 1>can talk me into that.

959
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:52.639
<v Speaker 2>So here's the thing. If you want to do that,

960
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:55.440
<v Speaker 2>we can't. But when we kind of decided that you

961
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:57.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to do it, I went to Wikipedia because

962
00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:00.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't want to suck it, and I

963
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:02.519
<v Speaker 2>know what happens, all right, hold on, hold on, but

964
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:04.760
<v Speaker 2>I read it and she's not wrong with what she's

965
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:08.840
<v Speaker 2>telling you. Yeah, but I'm like, god, really, this is

966
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:12.320
<v Speaker 2>the movie that was my reaction, Okay, And I don't know.

967
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:14.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll tell you what. If you're listening to this,

968
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:15.239
<v Speaker 1>we're not committing right now.

969
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:17.880
<v Speaker 2>We're not committing. We're going to figure this out off air,

970
00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:19.440
<v Speaker 2>and you'll get a surprise next week.

971
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:21.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it'll be one of those two so you can

972
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:23.880
<v Speaker 1>limit it down. Then we'll see where we end up

973
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:25.760
<v Speaker 1>going with this. But you know, it is going to

974
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:28.280
<v Speaker 1>be Halloween week, and I feel like we're messing up here,

975
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:32.440
<v Speaker 1>but we do what we want. That's Eric Balkman aka Balkey.

976
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:35.079
<v Speaker 1>Catch him on w s c O Ben Govno's Outside

977
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<v Speaker 1>the Box w HBIS. Thanks for listening, guys, this is

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<v Speaker 1>off topic. We'll be back next week
